< 1227312000 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just < 1227312004 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can find a place to buy it from that's open. < 1227312005 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1227312010 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<500 is not very low < 1227312022 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1227312025 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's half the piano keyboard < 1227312037 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's low in the sense that it's "not high". < 1227312044 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is tuned logarithmically) < 1227312054 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody ever tunes things linearly < 1227312059 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i may agree with the incredibly low or high ones being out of the log scale < 1227312073 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 500? < 1227312074 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. < 1227312089 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall making basic programs that played linear scale near there < 1227312104 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely didn't sound like it was linear < 1227312111 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i didn't know shit about music then < 1227312125 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just gave people a comparison tone, and asked them to adjust another one to be half as high. < 1227312147 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-musicians, I would guess. < 1227312198 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe musicians who don't know shit about frequencies < 1227312199 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1227312246 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wtf, "half as high", i'm not sure that'd make any sense to me if i didn't know that meant an octave. < 1227312296 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably think it's impossible because you can get as low as you want < 1227312310 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively people were asked to divide a frequency range to "equally large" regions. < 1227312321 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be content with approximating half of one interval < 1227312324 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah oka < 1227312325 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1227312339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so very difficult to live outside the campus area; all papers are "buy this article for $19 since you don't have a subscription". < 1227312350 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should set up the proxying stuff some day. < 1227312388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1227312448 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be an ICASSP paper from 1999 whose abstract says they "investicate the often made remark that there are two regions to the Mel scale, the first region (" but then it cuts off and the full text is only available for a fee. < 1227312476 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1227312484 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's prolly the gist of it. < 1227312520 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We show that there is no evidence, based on the experimental data points, that there are two qualitatively different regions or that the lower region is linear and upper region logarithmetic." < 1227312527 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Started a browser with X forwarding.) < 1227312538 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it's a very widely distributed rumour, then. < 1227312597 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing like that fits my intuition the least bit, and i know nothing about sound; would say that's a pretty weird rumour. < 1227312614 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the points aren't exactly logarithmic either, and it's mostly just a matter of how do you want to approximate it. < 1227312668 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you get the rest of it? < 1227312744 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started a browser at one of the computers inside the campus, used their IEEEXplore submission to get the full text. < 1227312775 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some serious hacking right there < 1227312810 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically seems like they've taken the data points from the original Mel paper (from the 1940s) and noticed that since there's a whole pile of curves that fit the points, you can't really say much more than that it's not linear, it's not logarithmic, and it can be numerically approximated with various functions. < 1227312864 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a lot of discussion to be having for slide #3, since the whole presentation has something like 17 of 'em. :p < 1227312888 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm sure the presentation was like this too < 1227312901 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i'd forgotten context loooong ago < 1227312922 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it went really fast; we were running a bit late at that point, so I skipped most of the boring parts. < 1227312936 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this 'mel' scale correlate with the greenwood function btw? < 1227313000 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure; that's of course the physiological justification for it. That "position in the ear" thing is a logarithmic approximation too, right? < 1227313087 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, greenwood is log (1 + f / a) / k, just with different constants < 1227313162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens after the cochlea is probably far less understood than the "just a simple matter of physics" part. < 1227313263 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's quite a lot of speech recognition research that's been motivated by "it seems as if humans do it sort of like this, a bit, maybe"; it's a bit of a buzzword nowadays. < 1227313305 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I think half of those people just want any convenient excuse to go stick electrodes into brains. < 1227313339 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it's a convenient idea that by just mapping the raw data onto what's been measured from sensory organs you'll get something profound and/or easily analyzable < 1227313414 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1227313426 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Join the Damnation now !" < 1227313736 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. now i kinda wanna go buy some coke. but i'd have to do it. < 1227313739 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fungot < 1227313769 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*please, fungot < 1227313828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo: the drink or the drug < 1227313858 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time i'll leave it for guesswork < 1227313866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo: i assume the latter, for "do it" < 1227313881 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: assume what you wish, big boy < 1227313889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo: i see. < 1227313896 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for reference, your nick is longer than mine) < 1227313904 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1227313915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: rename yourself to ok < 1227313917 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god it smells like pee here < 1227313917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or oko < 1227313932 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dog pees everywhere, and i don't wanna sweep it up all the time < 1227313949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's another thing i'd have to do for it to happen < 1227314031 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1227314039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the 'got. < 1227314059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first of all, i need to check if you've tampered with ^bool < 1227314068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't mind my small-scale flood here. < 1227314069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314069 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1227314069 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1227314069 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1227314069 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1227314071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314071 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1227314073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314073 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1227314075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314075 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1227314082 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just at Tampere, it's very likely that I've been tampering. < 1227314084 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, looks about right. < 1227314090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i go buy some cokers? < 1227314091 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1227314091 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1227314097 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said yes! < 1227314101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is gonna go!
< 1227314105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy time \o/ < 1227314108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooohhoo < 1227314109 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All systems are go. < 1227314110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> !!! < 1227314114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: which kind of coke, i ask again < 1227314116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227314145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)))))) < 1227314147 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1227314177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to his unresponsiveness I shall assume that oklopol will return on cocaine. < 1227314179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227314182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, the dog was sleeping so sweetly, and now i'm gonna leave and she'll be waiting for me face squeezed against the wall :< < 1227314191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the coke fuel < 1227314193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might be buying that < 1227314195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s possible. < 1227314232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does take some of the fun away, i have a lot of compassion for lesser creatures < 1227314257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE DOGS, BOTS, POLITICIANS AND WOMEN < 1227314266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1227314266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1227314374 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww oklopol no marries? :( < 1227314465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have 0.4 marriage, he said. < 1227314470 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1227314495 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I is the sleep now; night. < 1227315338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1227320909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should be a sleep too, now < 1227320910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1227321190 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol can't marry < 1227321197 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because GAYS CAN'T MARRY < 1227321199 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zing! < 1227323149 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1227324526 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227324540 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227328985 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227329128 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1227333580 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1227337873 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227338155 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a wonderful proof by dewdney of the nonexistance of a TM that solves the halting problem < 1227338157 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its quite nice < 1227338158 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1227338227 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lynx plz < 1227338233 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing's proof is pretty meh. < 1227338245 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was turings proof? < 1227338357 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme check, I don't remember too good < 1227338369 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First of all, it's not about the halting problem < 1227338379 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because his original specs was not halting. < 1227338427 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had two types of symbols. Symbols of the first kind (usually numbers), that are part of the final result < 1227338444 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And symbols of the second kind, which are... not. They're markers and such. < 1227338457 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well heres dewneys Devilmachine example < 1227338482 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A circular machine writes down a finite amount of symbols of the first kind, a circle-free machine does not. < 1227338497 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The halting problem is hence how to know if the machine is circular. < 1227338502 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose that we have a mean H, that can decide whether or not a machine T will halt on some input i < 1227338517 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to feed H in H? < 1227338520 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do this by giving H a description dT of the machine T < 1227338524 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With H as input? < 1227338535 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, not H, another machine derived from it, hold on :P) < 1227338565 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if T halts on i, H goes into 1 and halts < 1227338573 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if T doesn't halt on i, H goes into 0 and halts < 1227338611 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah, I know the oracle machine < 1227338616 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now make with the proof :o < 1227338630 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now suppose we derive a second machine, DM, build from H < 1227338652 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that it has one input, a machine description, which becomes dT and i < 1227338667 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the version of H that is wrapped up inside of DM < 1227338701 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now suppose we also change 1 so that when DM transitions to 1, it unconditionally transitions back to 1, looping around on forever < 1227338713 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does DM halt on dDM or not? < 1227338715 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assume it does < 1227338740 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if DM halts on dDM, then it'll go into state one, and thus it'll loop forever < 1227338758 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I lost you at H that is wrapped up inside of DM < 1227338761 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1227338768 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you derive a machine from H < 1227338785 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1227338818 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by adding a "copier" onto its inputs, so that the copier takes dT and duplicates it, putting it as the dT and i of the inner version of H < 1227338857 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just a machine that is exactly like H, only dT and i are always identical < 1227338872 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1227338874 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1227338882 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you also add an infinite loop to state 1 < 1227338891 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what is the dT in question? < 1227338901 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What machine does it describe < 1227338909 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any machine you want < 1227338916 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: you do this by giving H a description dT of the machine T < 1227338919 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what H does < 1227338926 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given some machine description, and an input i < 1227338933 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it determines if the described machine halts on i < 1227338934 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you talking to yourself < 1227338942 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not, im QUOTINg myself < 1227338952 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1227338955 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What IRC program are you using? < 1227338963 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :limechat, why < 1227338975 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1227338978 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you understand?? < 1227338983 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause they usually have < 1227338984 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1227338987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1227338987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1227339010 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you give dDM to H < 1227339013 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as both input and output < 1227339021 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking, will DM halt on its own description? < 1227339030 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if H says yes then this is what happens in DM: < 1227339054 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DM takes dDM as input, and because it has an inner copy of H, the inner copy of H should ALSO say yes < 1227339061 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that it it goes into state 1 < 1227339080 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but DM has an infinite loop on state 1, so DM cannot halt on its own input, if H says it will < 1227339095 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's pretty much Turing's proof. < 1227339100 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe H will say no, DM wont halt on its own input < 1227339120 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thats the case H will go into 0, meaning so will DM, and 0 is a halting state for DM < 1227339123 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so DM WILL halt < 1227339140 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so either way, H is wrong, and this machine, DM is possible if H is possible < 1227339149 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus since DM is not possible, H is not possible < 1227339165 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a beautiful proof < 1227339206 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think it's the proof of Turing, apart from the letters. < 1227339210 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho it helps to hav diagrams :) < 1227339215 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be turings proof < 1227339216 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1227339233 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is, in class the professor had multicolored chalk < 1227339243 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the diagram for H was clean and white < 1227339252 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a machine D, that when given the standard description of a machine M, test if M is circular, and mark the SD with u, otherwise with S. < 1227339269 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the diagram for DM was purple and orange and green and there were all sorts of swirlies here and there representing arbitrary input and stuff < 1227339282 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it looked psychedelic and demonic and appropriate for a machine named the Devil Machine < 1227339284 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i loved it < 1227339290 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pix < 1227339297 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no pix :( < 1227339345 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1227339351 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I see where theproof is different < 1227339368 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing applied it directly to the problem of the extension of the computable numbers. < 1227339805 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1227339807 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teabagging. < 1227339823 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3it < 1227339918 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BET YOU DO, FAGGOT < 1227339930 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_Liberation_Front < 1227339937 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I must declare holy war on you < 1227340615 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i love beards mate < 1227340619 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not on the guys i fuck < 1227340634 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like disembodied beards? < 1227340644 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Le Chuck's beard in Monkey Island 2 < 1227340644 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, very much so < 1227340722 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to say, im not impressed by the 2001 beard of the year < 1227340731 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I sort of shaved my balls, except on the bottom < 1227340736 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that they have a little beard. < 1227340738 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1227340739 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahha < 1227340757 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rip the hairs out all at once < 1227340757 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I can put on a face with a marker < 1227340783 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would slap you with my penis. < 1227340799 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an interesting thing that people wish facial hair have no chance in american politics on a large scal < 1227340799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1227340800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1227340801 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1227340833 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about ABRAHAM LINCOLN < 1227340844 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT < 1227340848 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern american politics i mean. < 1227340855 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think roosevelt was the last bearded president < 1227340860 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1227340863 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEDDY was < 1227340867 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :franklin was clean shaven < 1227340877 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't he have a moustache. < 1227340881 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1227340883 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was teddy < 1227340885 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Obama has a ball beard though. < 1227340903 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no taft had a mustache < 1227340947 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was the last < 1227340948 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taft < 1227341060 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's too much presidents with the same name. < 1227341077 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres only two pairs of same-named presidents in american history :P < 1227341082 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing Hillary wasn't elected < 1227341089 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1227341089 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three < 1227341090 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's too much for me < 1227341092 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bush included < 1227341100 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's the third? < 1227341118 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bushes, the roosevelts, and the .. other guys from the beginning < 1227341120 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adamses < 1227341123 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1227341132 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1227341135 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1227341141 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John Adams and... Quincy Adams? < 1227341153 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John and John Quincy < 1227341154 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1227341156 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly know my US Presidents from the Animaniacs song. < 1227341181 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly < 1227341187 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John -> John Quincy < 1227341192 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :George -> George W < 1227341200 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvy0wRLD5s8 < 1227341203 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both father-son lineages < 1227341273 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew jackson had some crazy clothes < 1227341285 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Andrew_jackson_head.gif < 1227341287 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean what is that? < 1227341308 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a wizard < 1227341315 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1227342297 0 :ineiros!n=ineiros@kosh.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1227345803 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-156-72.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227345815 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1227345911 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup. < 1227351202 0 :habnabit!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :JUMP_ABSOLUTE < 1227351557 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-040-186.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1227351713 0 :Slereah_!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227352844 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227355618 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1227355625 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227356660 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227359003 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1227359767 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1227359833 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227361681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if psygnisfive's is turing's proof, but that's the common one, except there's usually less wrapping and descriptions. < 1227361906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://clisp.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/clisp/clisp/doc/Why-CLISP-is-under-GPL I love the "Is that what you want?" line. rms is and always has been a fear-mongering person who cannot handle people with other views on commercial software. His position on the linking is totally ridiculous ... he could probably claim that every program on my system must be licensed under the GPL with that. < 1227361925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was cynical enough to call his sudden change of heart mind control. :-p < 1227361986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand how you people can keep track of pop culture so well, i have no idea what rms means < 1227361996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :richard m stallman, creator of the gnu project and gpl. < 1227362004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Richard Stallman is hardly pop culture... < 1227362006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hobo. < 1227362008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(moron.) < 1227362016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: last two may be personal opinion < 1227362031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1227362045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i know stallman, i'm not *that* much out of the looper < 1227362051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be < 1227362053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, forget stuff < 1227362059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1227362082 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as ais523 said, as long as it's not pop pop culture, it's okay, it's just not not okay if i *don't* know. < 1227362108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1227362117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it's just/and it's < 1227362133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that kind of a mistake called? < 1227362165 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use terms that show something implicitly, and the implicit parts have inconsistency < 1227362181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!(pop pop culture) => < 1227362181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : OK < 1227362181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& ((not know) => OK) < 1227362182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1227362219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK ((not (pop pop culture)) => (not know)) < 1227362226 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1227362232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK ((not (pop pop culture)) => (not know))) < 1227362246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK (not (pop pop culture)) < 1227362256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OK (not know (not (pop pop culture)))) < 1227362257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what < 1227362258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1227362262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you said < 1227362268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no that's not right, i was just copypasting yours :P < 1227362273 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try predicate logic. < 1227362328 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forall X)(okay(pop_pop_culture(X) ^ know(X))) < 1227362399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ^ equals AND, or XOR? < 1227362409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as long as it's not pop pop culture, it's okay, and it's not not okay if i *don't* know." (forall X)(okay(pop_pop_culture(X) ^ know(X))), then emphasis on (not (not (okay(pop ... know(X))))) < 1227362420 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and. < 1227362425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and, it's predicate logic < 1227362432 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1227362437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's wrong < 1227362438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says: < 1227362444 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no wonder that looks wrong :) < 1227362445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay if (it's pop pop culture and I know it) < 1227362448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has an extra not < 1227362453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, okay < 1227362460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soo you need an extra not there < 1227362461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my predicate logic thing has a copypaste error < 1227362469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(forall X)(okay(not(pop_pop_culture(X)) ^ know(X))) < 1227362478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by pop pop culture < 1227362483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant the more popular pop culture < 1227362498 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i then quickly forgot what that meant and started getting confused < 1227362527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let us start over having learned from these past mistakes < 1227362632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as long as it's not pop pop culture, it's okay, and it's not not okay if i *don't* know." (forall X)(okay((((not pop_culture(X)) ^ (pop_pop_culture(X))) ^ (know(X))))) < 1227362670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second sentence is just gravy, and the first and in the predicate logic is linguistically a "but" < 1227362682 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1227362696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once again i have the two pop cultures the wrong way around :P < 1227362710 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i conjecture i cannot achieve consistensy in terminology < 1227362722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bear-poops
< 1227362766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah if you swap those, it should be fine < 1227364014 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-040-186.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1227364303 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1227364815 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-45.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227365071 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1227365561 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-38.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1227365895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1227365895 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1227366015 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227366427 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@084202205031.customer.alfanett.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1227367724 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227367773 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227369093 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@cpc3-stkn2-0-0-cust106.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1227370353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1227370360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1227370367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1227370372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm currently working on conditional fingerprints < 1227370379 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by that < 1227370385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fingerprints which are included in some builds not others < 1227370386 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like IFFI < 1227370389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1227370394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically: A fancy name for adding an #if around the fingerprint < 1227370399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can depend on checks in cmake < 1227370402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1227370410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we don't have ncurses skip TERM < 1227370411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1227370451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my fingerprint managing scripts are looking about as messy as ick's old main() now. < 1227370460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he < 1227370461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heh < 1227370470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including a ad-hoc "generate fingerprint list for man page"-mode < 1227370472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an* < 1227370502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably split out the common code (parse *.spec files) into a separate file < 1227370508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then source it < 1227371326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm a question that I suspect you may know the answer to: < 1227371341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on < 1227371343 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1227371346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you have a C file that is empty? < 1227371354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from possible whitespace < 1227371370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that legal? < 1227371376 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1227371376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the C standard < 1227371382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all files have to have at least one declaration in < 1227371401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok, then what if the C file isn't empty, but everything is in an #if ... #endif that evaluate to false < 1227371409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :logically it would be empty after the pre-processor then < 1227371419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that file valid or not? < 1227371419 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would < 1227371422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think not < 1227371429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write int foo; and it becomes legal < 1227371449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, gcc complains for truly empty files but not ones that are empty due to everything being iffed out < 1227371481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1227371489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an extension, but an obvious one < 1227371493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I know a better way to solve it, include the global header before, it contains some typedefs < 1227371500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that would be enough < 1227371516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1227371529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1227371534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the exact wording < 1227371541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp.lang.c are good for this sort of thing, I find < 1227371566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm, I'll take a look at the C99 spec. I guess. < 1227371818 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1227372055 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm from now on I fear that libick_ecto_b98.a won't compile without adding a few HAVE_*. At least HAVE_random, HAVE_srandom and HAVE_clock_gettime < 1227372066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1227372075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should probably try to get the script integrated with your build system < 1227372077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe we can write fallback libraries < 1227372080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may do that later < 1227372091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm? < 1227372103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if srandom isn't there < 1227372106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :provide our own version < 1227372107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1227372110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I fall back to srand() < 1227372114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, and ok < 1227372115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1227372120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for clock_gettime() I fall back to gettimeofday() < 1227372124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1227372152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I try to be POSIX.1-2001 + _POSIX_MAPPED_FILES + strdup < 1227372166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strdup and srandom/random are XSI < 1227372201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is a superset of POSIX, XSI is required for a system to be Unix however, see SUSv3) < 1227372223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and all those except srandom/random are mandatory in POSIX.1-2008 < 1227372223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1227372251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that will be at least a few years before I start depending on the 2008 edition < 1227372453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, IFFI will not need an update for the conditional fingerprint bit due to both versions 1.2 and 1.3 of the fingerprint spec format are supported atm, since 1.3 only added an optional line (%condition:...) < 1227372466 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1227372595 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@084202205031.customer.alfanett.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1227372595 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1227372973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in English, if you put a whole sentence within parentheses do you put the . before or after the ) ? < 1227372990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as (This is a whole sentence). or (This is a whole sentence.) < 1227372995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside < 1227373005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the . is inside the parens < 1227373005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1227373025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic rule is that the sentence needs to be punctuated correctly if you remove everything inside the parens < 1227373063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1227373090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm, what bash version do you have? (echo $BASH_VERSION) < 1227373137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to change the version needed for gen_fprint_list. Well I could rewrite it to avoid that construct but it would be a bit more work. < 1227373147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what version ais523? :) < 1227373160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.2.39(1)-release < 1227373165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1227373186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it needed 3.1 or later, but now it needs 3.2.10 or later (due to a known bug in earlier versions) < 1227373578 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227373995 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227374397 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1227374420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : nigga (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 44 points, fell into a pit < 1227374422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- #nethack < 1227374424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert obvious joke. < 1227374527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha xD < 1227374534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it. < 1227374546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :black people can't do anything? :P < 1227374780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that obvious :) < 1227374791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get me something to eat don't you think < 1227374808 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to be always getting things; first coke, now something to eat. < 1227374810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat a floating eye corpse < 1227374840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fantasticcontraption.com/?designId=3262169 < 1227374851 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But beware, you might feel a strange mental acuity. < 1227374898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so what kind of coke was ita gain? < 1227374900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never admitted. < 1227374931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why would i admit? < 1227374938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz this is #esoteric. < 1227374939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. < 1227374942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my logic is flawless < 1227374956 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the drug kinda, then i'm admitting i'm a criminal, if it's the boring kind, that's just a boring confession. < 1227374971 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to which, this keeps the mystery up, and mysteries are nice < 1227374977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kind < 1227374985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a criminal < 1227374986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1227374998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION PYRAT
< 1227375021 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cracked my copy of linux genuine advantage < 1227375030 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you criminal in ways that aren't accepted by the public? < 1227375035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eating dragons is fun too < 1227375037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: lol < 1227375037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: I never downloaded it, it seemed the best way to me < 1227375044 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it exists, look it up < 1227375047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1227375051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1227375054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1227375058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a program < 1227375061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone made as a joke < 1227375070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, it's a joke < 1227375071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works the same way as WGA < 1227375073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not AnMaster territory. < 1227375076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just you can uninstall it < 1227375076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1227375081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as one of the many ways to get around it < 1227375086 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also easily hacked < 1227375089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as it's open source < 1227375090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1227375100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/source/ < 1227375100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice joke indeed < 1227375129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : are you criminal in ways that aren't accepted by the public? <-- prolly < 1227375150 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :piracy is accepted by most people < 1227375152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs aren't < 1227375163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the definition of people :P < 1227375189 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay finnish people and ircers from other countries. < 1227375192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the even funnier thing about LGA is you actually have to pay them money to get it to work properly < 1227375198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else change the name of the server, I gues < 1227375201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*guess < 1227375375 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fizzie, you are right, i am a getophiliac. may i should get help... or more like find it, might be more helpful. < 1227375453 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-59-94.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1227375485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, they had to explain it was a joke in the FAQ < 1227375495 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1227375500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with giving a crack to remove it themselves, just in case someone had tried to run it and got locked out < 1227375510 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-59-94.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1227375556 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1227376027 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-114-141.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1227376034 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS COOOOOOLD < 1227376111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1227376144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a computer that sucks at power saving. < 1227376146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would warm me. < 1227376150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7f07k/its_so_cold_that_i_have_to_compile_ghc_to_heat/ ] < 1227376151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1227376153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1227376160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just put a busyloop in the background < 1227376162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes to the same thing < 1227376173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, this computer is never hote < 1227376174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1227376180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1227376186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stone cold on the outside, unless i'm using like all of the two cores < 1227376190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one doesn't seem to get hot, but warms the desk underneath it < 1227376194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case there's minimal heat coming out of the fan < 1227376198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1227376199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fan < 1227376200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holes < 1227376200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two cores? just put two busyloops in the background < 1227376202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bottom of the monitor < 1227376203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1227376210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the cpu too... < 1227376362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ perl -e 'fork; 1 while 1' < 1227376365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ i notice nothing. < 1227376371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, things are lagging a bit. < 1227376375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still freezing. < 1227376389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: write it as fork, 1 while 1, that would be a lot more fun < 1227376393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1227376400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1227376405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork bomb < 1227376408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1227376409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1227376410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the fork is inside the while loop < 1227376418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1227376423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ fork, 1 } while (1) < 1227376677 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork while fork < 1227376763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1227376765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ais523's is more subtle < 1227376812 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle forkbomb yea < 1227376856 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1227376869 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an intel tool (TAT, I think) which can really raise the temperatures < 1227376877 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as can prime95 < 1227376885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's powertop too, which can really lower them < 1227376926 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's flamethrowers, which are more effective than TAT or prime95. < 1227376928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dagobah.biz/flash/dotact2.swf < 1227376928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnnnnn < 1227376933 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1227376952 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about a coal basin < 1227377016 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks intently about a coal basin.
< 1227377074 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@cpc3-stkn2-0-0-cust106.midd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1227377103 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think this motherboard isn't as unscathed as I thought it was... :( < 1227377130 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am cold, without an eye, ill and bored < 1227377134 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmm, coal basin. < 1227377200 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1227377201 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :srop thinking about coal basin; < 1227377204 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop* < 1227377205 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Asztal < 1227377211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION srops thinking about coal basin
< 1227377216 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1227377239 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION srops his brains out.
< 1227377241 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop thinking about coal basin; < 1227377283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits intently for the rest of that sentence.
< 1227377296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :srop waiting and do soemthing! < 1227377302 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill yourself. < 1227377322 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg < 1227377330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1227377338 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i waited for an error message :C < 1227377356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather error massage < 1227377379 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typos happen, when you have only one eye active < 1227377387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the other? < 1227377475 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was deactivated and corrupted by rubbish flying with wind < 1227377484 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glass, to be precise < 1227377489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1227377493 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it heals < 1227377505 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should :> < 1227377790 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the transistor placement algo is still driving me mad < 1227377803 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too stupid to figure it out correctly < 1227377813 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i explode with anger < 1227378808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, slight change to cftoec.sh to be able to support last cfunge revision. pushed that change to same place as before < 1227378857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue if you can merge that patch out of order < 1227379166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's a pretty stupid game < 1227379173 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'M NOT TWITCHY ENOUGH FOR LEVEL 24 < 1227379176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's fun < 1227379177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: :D < 1227379191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's trivial and uninteresting < 1227379204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no its fun < 1227379207 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1227379219 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Clearly you've played precisely level 1 and went BLEH DIS SUX LAWL < 1227379233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah on further levels it gets interesting < 1227379236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the flip-level orbs < 1227379245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the water+lava+flip combinations < 1227379246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and aaaaaaa < 1227379252 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i played seven levels through < 1227379282 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Calling them "orbs" is a bit of a misnomer :P < 1227379290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's simply a boring concept, if there's seriously something interesting or hard in the puzzles somewhere, i can retry. < 1227379302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the problem with puzzles is, they are usually trivial. < 1227379308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's fun and hard to get it fast enough < 1227379311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets mor einteresting < 1227379316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you go on < 1227379338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's not much room for improvement, it's just micro-optimization < 1227379353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up until you play it properly :P < 1227379358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph. < 1227379362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'll finish it < 1227379471 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played that thing up to level 42, but then I gotzted bored. < 1227379483 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1227379523 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a "kill" button? < 1227379537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1227379540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left, right, space < 1227379542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all you get < 1227379553 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do 'down' in water. < 1227379555 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a bit retarded < 1227379560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, it's not < 1227379563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's restricted < 1227379574 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can abort in the middle of the level, yes. If that's what you mean with "kill". < 1227379578 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not very fun to wait for four minutes to die. < 1227379580 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1227379581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1227379583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can? how < 1227379583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you meant < 1227379586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the orbs < 1227379586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227379593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the "pause" key, but I forgot already which one. < 1227379598 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can select 'continue' or 'end'. < 1227379603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :escape < 1227379603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1227379612 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, enter. < 1227379619 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227379676 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzlet is a small puzzle, he should be able to clear this right up. < 1227379699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1227379797 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the cheesy 8-bit music btw. < 1227379808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1227379809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's great < 1227379869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stage 15 is ... trivial < 1227379869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1227379905 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all up to 15 were pretty much trivial. < 1227379906 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@" < 1227379918 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I mean, up to 42. < 1227379947 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ur sluw lawl < 1227379949 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is at 32
< 1227379950 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you're all talking about it, I'd probably go a few levels further, but it already forgot where I were, and I don't feel like replaying all those. < 1227379955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I restarted. < 1227379963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i actually died at level 14 < 1227379975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh :P < 1227379985 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could have some sort of passwordy thingie. Or maybe it has, who knows. < 1227379993 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could continue where I left off. < 1227380046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1227380076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: < 1227380077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click on the comments < 1227380080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a list of all the cods < 1227380082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codes < 1227380085 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1227380105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay 16 had a teensy bit of innovation < 1227380140 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 EVIL < 1227380164 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't that bad. Especially since the \-slope was just "keep -> pressed". < 1227380233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFBBQ < 1227380241 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I tried the first time and I hit a wall. < 1227380245 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried it again and it worked. < 1227380258 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay 17 was harder than the whole game put together < 1227380332 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227380379 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it wasn't. < 1227380413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 has a time of 0. < 1227380426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1227380427 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1227380429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do it??? < 1227380430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole game sofar < 1227380457 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 24 had a time of 1; that was easier. < 1227380490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 0 time is not completely instaneous, but I think it needs a "jump to the roof and bounce" type of thing, it's not fast enough to fall down. < 1227380516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, that's it. < 1227380563 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, 46 is not fun. < 1227380585 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Level 36 is difficult ... but that's just because the precise timing of the tall lava blocks is not my cup o' pigs snot. < 1227380702 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/level46.png < 1227380708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I have the patience for this one. < 1227380717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1227380834 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227380848 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1227380977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only hard things i've seen sofar have been one-pixel slots where you need to have absolute precision. < 1227380984 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very interesting type of hard. < 1227380995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baww. < 1227381033 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Did you look at that lvl46 screenshot? that seems to be exactly what this is. Although the comments part say something undecipherable. < 1227381092 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh stupefity of it. < 1227381104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can run past it, the guy doesn't have time to fall down. < 1227381133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah that looks pretty hard. < 1227381137 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a single jump plus -> key pressed to the end of the level. < 1227381164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the movement is this simplified, i definitely don't want puzzles that rely on having mastered it. < 1227381176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1227381177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1227381187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay that's the kind of puzzle i can live with < 1227381207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good puzzle is about having learned the game mechanics and being able to exploit that < 1227381294 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the only such one so far. :p < 1227381341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yeah 34 was pretty evil, i needed two attempts. < 1227381359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i accidentally hit space after climbing the wall < 1227381398 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: where are you now? < 1227381605 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be fine with 37 being the first level of the game with 150 sec less time. < 1227381718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are getting more annyoing; didn't like 51, 52 at all. < 1227381746 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227382014 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i didn't like the game in the first place < 1227382052 0 :Slereah_!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227382055 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 42 you can't see the guy when jumping up on the pillars, that's probably the hardest part of the game sofar < 1227382084 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most levels i haven't really even hard time to look at, i just press a few buttons and they're done < 1227382119 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a serious complication is having space as the jump key, i instinctively go to shift < 1227382282 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227382283 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1227382438 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1227382477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 45 can be done, right? < 1227382487 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1227382490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 58 now. < 1227382514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay third attempt did it < 1227382548 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ 46 < 1227382567 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably spend more time in the menu than in the game < 1227382570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_:D < 1227382593 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-252-1-83-45.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227383068 0 :JUMP_ABSOLUTE!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :habnabit < 1227383262 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1227383282 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: where are you now? < 1227383320 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64. I suck at this stuff; and this one is annoyingly complicated too. < 1227383512 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, level 41 was bizarrely easy. < 1227383538 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay 54 was goddamn annoying < 1227383561 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: 4X was bizarrely easy < 1227383582 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music for 42 is unnecessarily dark. < 1227384020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Offscreen jumping makes Gregor angry. < 1227384366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: now? < 1227384380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yeah i complained about that too < 1227384388 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's pretty much the hardest part of 4X < 1227384399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 66. I is slow. < 1227384511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, 67; 66 was fast. < 1227384602 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1227384606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've taken on 5 levels < 1227384609 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :62 now < 1227384827 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, ramen. < 1227384920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep messing the final jumps all the time. < 1227385152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep failing the trivial fall-and-evade-evil-lava part in 62 < 1227385355 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, okay, 63. < 1227385381 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep dying in this 69 even though it's not really difficult. < 1227385679 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've even gotten all those dots, just not in the same run. < 1227385726 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm getting tired. < 1227385852 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think stage 70 is special, since it's got 999 time. < 1227385980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would just like to say that this game has the most realistic physics engine I've ever seen. < 1227386221 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, ran out of time in the 999-"second" thing. Out of the 2744 dots, had 226 left-over. < 1227386261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got yall addicted < 1227386262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1227386564 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-129.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1227386700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEVEL 51 IS HARD < 1227386719 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, heh; this time I got 71 left-over dots of the 2744. I'm not sure I can finish this level; it's boring. < 1227386747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOTTIT < 1227386754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you check the code? < 1227386755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna try it < 1227386760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the bottom of the level select) < 1227386853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :197-168 < 1227386943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh jeez. < 1227387229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you still playin'? < 1227387244 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew, I got #70 done. < 1227387248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo! < 1227387254 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#71 is again one of those 1-second things. < 1227387303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do 45 < 1227387304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227387340 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just jump up-left so that you bounce to the blue dot faster than just falling down. < 1227387355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 24 is the holocaust < 1227387384 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for the record, 71 is pretty close to 45 except that the right side is lava so you need to first safely touch the bottom, then move right under it. < 1227387413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game hates us < 1227387423 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, 72 is another one-seconder. < 1227387470 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts on top of lave, you need to immediately move one pixel right; that column has a two-pixel space, then one pixel of lava and the blue one is above that, and roof immediately on top so you usually can't hit it. < 1227387478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: GregorR got me addicted. < 1227387492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but i linked to it first. < 1227387513 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even link it :P < 1227387532 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, no! 73 is yet another one-seconder, this time with two blue dots. These are getting boring. < 1227387536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yeah, so? it was indirect < 1227387591 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 74 is a two-seconder. < 1227387597 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With three dots. Hate. < 1227387681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 75 is a zero-seconder. Heh, heh. They should stop with these and soon. < 1227387700 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :76: 1 second. < 1227387721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the game hates you < 1227387723 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With a red dot thing.) < 1227387726 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :77: 1 second... < 1227387768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lulz < 1227387780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should put all of them together < 1227387783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :into one massive level < 1227387793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game hates *me*, fizzie has a lead of 13 levels now :< < 1227387801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did go to the shop in between tho < 1227387817 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You'll catch fast when you get to these one-seconders. Although I can't seem to get this 77 done. < 1227387832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 is evil < 1227387832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1227387842 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guy is always just rising upwards to the blue dot when it runs out of time. < 1227387912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: bounce off a wall? < 1227387927 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not helpful here. < 1227387933 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :78 is a two-seconder again. < 1227387964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF 45 WTF KILL KILL < 1227387965 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where you have to navigate a S-shaped path with quite a lot of lava around. < 1227387973 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I obviously have to jump, but it won't let me. < 1227387993 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 didn't take half as many attempts as the latter 0-seconder. For me, anyway. < 1227388003 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait :P < 1227388006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space is jump X-D < 1227388009 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION = stupid.
< 1227388015 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEE SUDDENLY THAT WAS EASY < 1227388052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decree stage 50 to be argh < 1227388091 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 wasn't that bad, although I dislike all the water-jumpery ones. < 1227388107 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :46 needs twitchy timing, doesn't it ;P < 1227388113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1227388130 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to land the first opening, then you can keep -> pressed. < 1227388137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1227388138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is hilarious < 1227388142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hold -> < 1227388142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227388169 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH PFFT < 1227388179 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why the call it a puzzle. < 1227388180 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realize you could get any distance over a pit without jumping. < 1227388203 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's got that realistic physics. < 1227388210 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure you can just run over pits. < 1227388274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 is fun < 1227388331 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :79: 1 seconds... < 1227388344 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 10 dots. :p < 1227388418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: code? < 1227388418 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 12, but the two first are eaten immediately. < 1227388430 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a 3x4 box full of dots. < 1227388437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codeeeee < 1227388442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whuzzcode < 1227388481 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 is another 2-seconder, with a green flipper. That one has the code 246-810. < 1227388532 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is very very annoying, because the flipping animation takes so long. < 1227388580 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The water levels were always my least favorite in Super Mario :P < 1227388672 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH 50 EVIL < 1227388673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my progess will stop at this 80; I've been doing these 0-2-second levels by simply iterating a gazillion times, but this one has the forced flipping animation in the beginning, and I don't have the patience to watch that. < 1227388747 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 isn't so bad, because the later water tiles don't really work like water. < 1227388763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bizzarter :P < 1227388901 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I'll let oklopol to do the ones after #80, because he's better with the whole "obsessing over things" part. This flipping animation is just too annoying. < 1227389087 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-166.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227389345 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1227389620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 < 1227389639 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 is fun, like 4 minutes of triviality, then a hard part where i always die :P < 1227389654 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, the ending is just the beginning backwards, but i have more pressure. < 1227389693 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was 68, the one with the four "towers" to climb? < 1227389724 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll check. < 1227389764 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, that one. < 1227389771 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the same thing. < 1227389781 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:15:11 < fizzie> I keep messing the final jumps all the time. < 1227389785 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was about 68. < 1227389828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The silly "zero to two" second sequence starts at 71, you'll hit it soon. < 1227389849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee this is fun < 1227389850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^__^ < 1227389854 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I took ages and ages to do 69. < 1227389863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, who wants to watch a program play nethack? < 1227389872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet to nethack.alt.org, select watch, and find ehirdtaeb/ < 1227389908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a Nethack AI was one in the list of "proposed programming projects" in our Prolog course. < 1227389919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is 30,000 lines of Perl. < 1227389925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the people working on it are good at nethack. :P < 1227390005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, stage 81 has 55 seconds. < 1227390018 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A welcome break from the monotonicity of it all. < 1227390029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm @ 69 now < 1227390094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third pipe < 1227390100 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's impossible :| < 1227390102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1227390104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not. < 1227390113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've gotten half-way through < 1227390116 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with it, because it was the hardest one. < 1227390117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean < 1227390120 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1227390122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it very very very carefully. < 1227390122 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me too < 1227390140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fourth isn't too hard, second i haven't tried but looks easy, first one can't be failed < 1227390156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i probably will fail it when i get to it after the three others, because i get all shaky < 1227390158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway < 1227390172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can jump upwards if you're standing right on the edge (it'll push the guy sidewards a bit), so the only difficult bit is getting the "entering the notch" part done without hitting lava. < 1227390217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This #82 has water that doesn't slow the dropping speed at all. Otherwise it works just like regular water. < 1227390233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGH < 1227390235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIED AT THE END OF 68 < 1227390278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: code of 82? < 1227390314 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :863-506, although it's not that far from 80. < 1227390442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :82 is easy < 1227390443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1227390481 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have to try it multiple times; the fast-dropping water was a bit tricky. < 1227390511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, 81 is cute < 1227390691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1227390709 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike time-limited ones most of all, and these all have quite a little bit of time. < 1227390717 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1227390723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't passed the third pipe, even. < 1227390753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still often fail the first jump, and there are 8 of them. < 1227390760 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did that too. < 1227390784 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think ehird's done 69 either? Go do it, it's fun. < 1227390812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is 69 < 1227390835 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one with the four pipes to climb; much like an earlier one but with lllava. < 1227390841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is quite a lot of work just to be able to tell people this game sucks without having to take crap about not having tried the fun levels. < 1227390857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but you like them < 1227390857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1227390908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like what? yeah i've liked a few levels more than the rest < 1227390917 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one level of fantasticcontraption > this whole game sofar < 1227390923 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "STAGE X" title screen and background seem to be changing from green towards red... maybe that can be used to deduce the amount of levels. < 1227390979 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to get this #85 done in the allocated time. < 1227390987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can deduce it's either 100 or 256 without any info! < 1227391335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned I don't like time limits? #87 would be pretty easy if I had time to be careful, but I don't. < 1227391414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i know how to do 69 now < 1227391421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has new technique
< 1227391552 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1227391553 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1227391567 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8| < 1227391570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy FUCK < 1227391573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :70 < 1227391575 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyy < 1227391588 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't that difficult; I think my third or fourth real attempt worked. < 1227391599 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friggin grngrgnrgr #88. All these later ones have strict time limits. < 1227392156 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least 89 didn't have a bad time limit. 90 again has. < 1227392302 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These have the sort of time limits that when climbing up a ledge, you need to bounce off immediately; if you actually stop and stand on the ledge, you run out of time. < 1227392413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should actually stop. I was already going to stop at #80. < 1227392475 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay i needed three attempts. < 1227392478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1227392488 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1227392495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the level is that long, and still you die of not having enough time < 1227392499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's annoying < 1227392519 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: #90, I just don't seem to have enough time here. < 1227392581 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's how it works. < 1227392610 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not enough, but closer. < 1227392893 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the one single time I seem to be having enough time, I mess up the last jump. < 1227393062 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I was about one pixel above the last blue block, and falling towards it, when I ran out of time. < 1227393086 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I leave levels from #90 on for oklopol to solve. :p < 1227393093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1227393094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :77 < 1227393105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was pretty easy when i did jumping with my right hand < 1227393117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems it's a biiiiit faster than leftie < 1227393124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'll otherwise lose it somewhere, code for #90 is 883-674. < 1227393165 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't get that far level by level, i will stop playing < 1227393202 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I got #90 done accidentally. < 1227393217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a better (and obvious) speed-optimilization there. < 1227393249 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#91 doesn't look any better, though. < 1227393308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :389-744. < 1227393389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely suck at anything involving water, and #91... well, see for yourselves: http://zem.fi/~fis/level91.png < 1227393442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft < 1227393445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easy. < 1227393448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1227393454 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not easy for me, anyway. < 1227393478 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I assume the fact that those "seconds" count down at a rate that's something like 2/second is universal and not just a Flash bug here? < 1227393491 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1227393495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me too at least < 1227393502 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wanted to confirm. < 1227393546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO WONDER YOU'RE SO FAR AHEAD YOU'RE CHEATING < 1227393579 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... it it actually impossible to enter the number 9 in that code-input screen? It seems to produce just a 0. < 1227393591 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't get back to #91 here. :/ < 1227393608 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1227393628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people say the same < 1227393629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1227393630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1227393708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can. < 1227393717 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just the number that doesn't work; you can still enter it with cursor keys. < 1227393769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 is just too hard. < 1227393836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, you have to jump, and then move both right and left very quickly < 1227393839 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, #91 was actually easy, just like ehird said. But #92... well, it's a maze. < 1227393847 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, the jump usually doesn't work < 1227393850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot < 1227393853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, well, it's a tight fit < 1227393854 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what you have to do. < 1227393876 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just can't get myself automated on the lower part. < 1227393951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/level92.png -- now, it might even be not that bad (haven't checked how tight that time limit is), but it looks *boring*. < 1227394185 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Join the Damnation now !" < 1227394318 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lessee < 1227394320 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is a time limit thing. I got 49/55 on my first attempt, where I didn't do any long detours. I assume you need to do things like bounce from the upper wall downwards to fall faster. < 1227394331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1227394336 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go right, first < 1227394346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1227394351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty straightforward < 1227394366 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but I still run out of time. < 1227394374 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hard to find the route, no. < 1227394398 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and right < 1227394402 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did say the only hard thing is time < 1227394419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if i ever get that far, i'll see for myself < 1227394424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues
< 1227394452 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 is impossible. < 1227394485 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there somekinda trick or am i just slow? < 1227394522 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's impossible about it? < 1227394556 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1227394564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miscalculated a distance. < 1227394569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even hard. < 1227394578 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you didn't jump from the second stair out from the lava? < 1227394841 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-156-72.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1227394983 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time in #92 only the two last dots were left uncollected. But I'm getting seriously bored with it. < 1227395128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finished stage 50 with 0 time left :P < 1227395289 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, same two dots left-over; I need some shortcuts. Will stop here. < 1227395297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :181-057. < 1227395317 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did make a couple of mistakes on the way, so I'm sure it's doable. < 1227395699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that happens a lot in 8X. < 1227395724 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also in 7X, but, well.) < 1227395800 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-192-102-5.zone6.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1227395817 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-80.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1227396003 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: How's it going? < 1227396068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ 91 < 1227396136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Well, like ehird said, that one was easy. < 1227396149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so if you're not finding it easy, YOU SUCK" < 1227396191 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I almost ran out of time because I took the upward slope so carefully, and then had a lot of trouble climbing up the other pipe, due to not having done that sort of thing a lot in the previous levels. < 1227396201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I had two seconds left when I hit that last dot. < 1227396309 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to know how to do 92 significantly faster than what I've been doing, though. < 1227396350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i just failed @ jumping to the last dot < 1227396376 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got that done on my first try, even though I was so sure I'll mess it up. < 1227396544 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it's usually first try or fifteenth time... < 1227396587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're all ADDDDDDDDDICCCCCCTEDDDDDDDDD < 1227396595 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to dream. < 1227396602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corun: I see. < 1227396626 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right between my sound machine < 1227396647 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a cloud of sound I drift in the night < 1227396656 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any place it goes is right. < 1227396666 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goes far, flies near, to the stars away from here. < 1227396683 0 :cherez!n=cherez@69.76.143.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1227397112 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: timeout, 2 left. < 1227397181 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1227397188 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got all, with 12 seconds time left. < 1227397195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Practice helped, it seems. < 1227397209 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next one looks very complicated; not sure how difficult it really is. < 1227397313 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1227397400 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it isn't very difficult up to the final part, but that one's tricky because I sucks. < 1227397435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :036-096; too sleepy to continue, so recording the password hear. < 1227397515 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final part is completely lava, and in the end there's a "room" which has two ~8-pixel rows of blue dots surrounded by a two-pixel lava border; I suck at picking up the blue dots before the red dot effect wears off. < 1227397816 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a related picture: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/05/09/teh-floor-iz-lava1/ < 1227397878 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, before you guys revealed to me that it's lava, I thought the yellow-orange squares were "electricity", since the flashing screen looked like "got zapped" to me. < 1227397887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1227398039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1227398042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i passed it too < 1227398064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah i thought of it as electric fence < 1227398079 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just tend to adapt my terminology, and ehird mentioned lava < 1227398088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1227398093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its probably an electric fence < 1227398093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1227398102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yellow-orange thing in games that kills on impact < 1227398104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :== lava, to me < 1227398127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i closered the game now, so i hope these "codes" actually work. < 1227398144 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1227398145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dances a slight dance for finally catching fizzie
< 1227398159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i'll probably not be able to play tomorrow < 1227398170 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Join the Damnation now !" < 1227398233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ja < 1227398325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sekä < 1227398347 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food making times < 1227398349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :->