< 1230682390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1230684789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UTC leap second tomorrow, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 < 1230684795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(leave that there :P) < 1230685171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy enough to fix xntpd. It's also easy to fix localtime() to handle leap seconds. In fact, some vendors have already adopted Olson's time library. < 1230685171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main obstacle is POSIX. POSIX is a ``standard'' designed by a vendor consortium several years ago to eliminate progress and protect the installed base. The behavior of the broken localtime() libraries was documented and turned into a POSIX requirement. < 1230685175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, the POSIX rules are so outrageously dumb---for example, they require that 2100 be a leap year, contradicting the Gregorian calendar---that no self-respecting engineer would obey them. < 1230685178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- djb < 1230690139 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230690176 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230690184 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230691075 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230691128 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230691975 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230691981 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230692145 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230705778 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"You only need one wheel. Bikers are just greedy." < 1230710399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1230710400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1230717774 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng19-0-0-cust700.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1230718397 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-41.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1230718602 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1230718652 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we go forward in leaps and bounds < 1230719341 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-252-201.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1230720726 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1230720962 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-3-198.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1230721035 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1230722021 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230722468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1230722771 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230723477 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-86.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1230723730 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1230725180 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng19-0-0-cust700.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1230727950 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1230728483 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1230729847 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230729860 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230731246 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230732478 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230732478 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230732490 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230733442 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-40.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1230733642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah quicklog doesn't fix the joinpart timestamps < 1230733713 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230733715 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1230733725 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230733837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna help me fix that < 1230734579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Debian GNU/Linux was the first project to be deliberately modelled on the principles of distributed software development]] what < 1230734973 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230734977 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1230734987 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230736215 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230736220 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230736352 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230736356 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230736363 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :metazilla < 1230736865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i don't think you follow the erlang programming rules :D http://www.erlang.se/doc/programming_rules.shtml#HDR11 < 1230736895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't program defensively in erlang < 1230736910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. why do you program defensively elsewhere, then? < 1230736918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rule there doesn't seem to apply specifically just to erlang. < 1230736923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't really, I try to apply checks only where needed < 1230736943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to remember cfunge having quite a bit of that, it's ages since I looked at it though. < 1230736947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes offensive programming < 1230736960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("try to make bad programs crash") < 1230736972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? It *does* check for division by zero of course, since the funge specs state that < 1230736974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. there's a non-null-terminated string library, so it puts Z right at the end of the string < 1230736984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that programs that try and use it null-terminated will always break < 1230736992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because a lot of the time, there might be a \0 at the end by chance) < 1230737005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nice, what is the name of that library? < 1230737017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I think data is much saner < 1230737023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, I think maybe a few of them do it. I read that code first in one of djb's libraries, I think. < 1230737033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230737052 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230737058 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230737061 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :metazilla < 1230737073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be nice if there was a debugger suited to offensive & non-defensive programming; instead of a step-through model it'd just dump as much info as it could in a nice format when the program crashes. < 1230737101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb ./p;start;cont;bt) partially achieves that. < 1230737147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION searches for the lib he found the 'Z' in < 1230737148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well core dumps is quite like that < 1230737173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What I'm thinking is more like - being able to view the callstack, view the local variables at each point of the callstack < 1230737174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1230737179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :post-crash < 1230737196 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230737199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway the "defensive programming" in cfunge, I guess you could call assert() that, but that is just for debugging since release builds won't have those checks < 1230737200 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230737205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they *did* help catch a few bugs < 1230737212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1230737225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: wouldn't they have even without the assert()? I mean: < 1230737232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. if it's bad input, it'll crash your program anyway < 1230737237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. why are you passing bad input to it? < 1230737250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should either come from inside your program or have been checked when it was receieved < 1230737272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so assert() catches the "it comes from directly inside my program, but I made an error in calling it, and also it will just mess things up instead of crashing the program" < 1230737272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't, the asserts are to check for bugs, like "current top of stack > size of stack", bugs *do* happen < 1230737277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems quite a small case < 1230737295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assert() end the program < 1230737311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but better end that early than hard to debug memory corruption later < 1230737312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230737316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1230737331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank gawd for out-of-band error signaling. < 1230737340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1230737398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh leap second today? < 1230737405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1230737417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 < 1230737422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, wasn't there one only last year or so? < 1230737423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ < 1230737429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 2005 i think < 1230737439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well time files when you get older ;P < 1230737457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am going to try and run as many time-related programs on this machine as possible < 1230737462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe screenshot at the right moment < 1230737465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see how many manage it XD < 1230737481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? I think ntp or such will just correct it a bit later < 1230737493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as jumping backwards a second a bit later < 1230737495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1230737497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: posix specifies that leap seconds are explicitly ignored < 1230737500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is retarded < 1230737509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently a lot of systems just ignore posix on that point because it's stupid < 1230737521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently POSIX specifies 2100 as a leap year.) < 1230737532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm, what exactly does "explicitly ignored" mean for leap seconds? < 1230737548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "the second field is never 60" < 1230737555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc a lot of systems handle that by _repeating time_ < 1230737557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1230737571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes to 23:59:59.9, then back to 23:59:59.0 < 1230737587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230737595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, time travel :) < 1230737612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that should be unix-alikes' new marketing strategy < 1230737616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1230737616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So powerful you could TRAVEL THROUGH TIME" < 1230737623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does OS X handle it? < 1230737632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to find out, aren't I? < 1230737644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably I should set my system clock forward and test, but that's cheating. < 1230737667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc I did some test in 2005, and found out that the system just went on and then ntp corrected the time backwards with one second a few minutes after < 1230737687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230737688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1230737700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray for standards-specified idiocy < 1230737716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that and dlsym() < 1230737726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, the "no functions" thing? < 1230737729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1230737750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a dlsym stupidity, that's a "funcptrs don't neccessarily go in anything but a funcptr" < 1230737755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidity < 1230737777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: posix gives functions as an example though http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/dlsym.html < 1230737785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but while it's valid posix < 1230737787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not valid c. < 1230737790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are systems where sizeof(function pointer) != sizeof(data pointer) < 1230737797 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230737799 0 :psygnisf_!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230737801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but posix doesn't support them < 1230737804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct solution is a dlsym specifically for functions. < 1230737808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230737819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at POSIX.1-2008 pdf < 1230737834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe a nice wrapper that returns a struct{int type;union{void *var;blah *func}data;} < 1230737836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1230737839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :draft that is < 1230737933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISO C standard does not require that pointers to functions can be cast back and forth to < 1230737933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointers to data. However, POSIX-conforming implementations are required to support this, as < 1230737933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted in Section 2.12.3 (on page 541). The result of converting a pointer to a function into a < 1230737933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer to another data type (except void *) is still undefined, however. < 1230737934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1230737942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1230737956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that compilers conforming to the ISO C standard are required to generate a warning if a < 1230737956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conversion from a void * pointer to a function pointer is attempted as in: < 1230737956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fptr = (int (*)(int))dlsym(handle, "my_function"); < 1230737969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest we assassinate the POSIX writers. < 1230738043 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230738043 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230738051 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230738102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm, would be messy < 1230738119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for the best! < 1230738134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what would you prefer? win32 api being standard? < 1230738151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that it would get even worse without posix < 1230738167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err grammar < 1230738168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure people wrote cross-platform programs before POSIX, didn't they? :P < 1230738187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah they did, with lots and lots of #ifdef < 1230738188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively: how about an open effort to create a standard that doesn't require violating the C standard < 1230738196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen such source < 1230738197 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230738223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and good idea, just one change needed: dlfunc() dldata() < 1230738227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :issue solved < 1230738245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Okay, then they can get rid of all the POSIX cruft. < 1230738249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fix the datetime stuff. :- < 1230738250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1230738309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I invented a weird game. < 1230738370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 1) yes POSIX is quite good in many parts, a cleanup of it would be the best way 2) what game? < 1230738382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) yeah < 1230738383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2): < 1230738388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every player guesses a number. The winner is the player who guessed the number closest to the average (mean or median or whatever, I dunno) of all the guesses. < 1230738413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your guess may be initially best, but when it's entered, it may change the average, thus becoming less accurate. < 1230738416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230738559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230738580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what if all players are equally close? < 1230738585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least two are < 1230738591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be what we call a tie, AnMaster. < 1230738595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230738597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230738600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what are the rules in the game for that < 1230738601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230738611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, none. < 1230738611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, shared win or? < 1230738620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1230738630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Just make an arbitrary rule < 1230738634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, whichever was higher < 1230738640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're both equal... I dunno. < 1230738647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do it as an elimination game < 1230738650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have several rounds, the winner of each round wins one point, then what would happen in the case of a tie? < 1230738656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each round, the player that made the furthest away guess is dropped < 1230738664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that would work too < 1230738667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are multiple with the furthest away, drop all of them < 1230738671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except I hate to play such games) < 1230738674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it's down to two... < 1230738677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea. < 1230738686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm < 1230738699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you could make many variations on this < 1230738704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1230738708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the concept has potential < 1230739183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs Chicken. < 1230739368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I use a piece of software written in Tcl every day/ < 1230739371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacPorts. < 1230739398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole thing -- right down to the portfiles -- is all tcl. It works great. (the portfiles look just like a homebrewed format; since Tcl is so freeform) < 1230740176 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@net-93-145-194-40.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1230740243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Jeffrey Mark Siskind, author of Stalin]] < 1230740263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, I authored Hitler. < 1230740288 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-57-90.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1230740435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I think I'm having problems with emacs key bindings. < 1230740443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's odd, I rarely use emacs. Why would I be having issues? < 1230740467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, C-x C-f. No, I will not remap capslock to ctrl. ;P) < 1230740760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh what is the issue with C-x C-f exactly? < 1230740778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Emacs pinkie, I believe it's called. < 1230740779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it opens find file prompt in the minibuffer for me < 1230740799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah so no issue like "it doesn't work" or "it does the wrong thing" < 1230740799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Emacs#Emacs_Pinky < 1230740802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1230740805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hurting, it's just awkward. :P < 1230740816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it seems quite natural to me < 1230740829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hands are small, though. < 1230740834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have big hands and this is a standard full size PC keyboard < 1230740854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TextMate's completion shortcut is option-escape. I never use it for that erason. < 1230740856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reason < 1230740870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can quite easily do Ctrl-Alt-Esc with one hand, iirc that was something used on pre-OS X macs < 1230740880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macbugs maybe < 1230740881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1230740885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do that but I have to contort my hands. < 1230740891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slow. < 1230740892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contort? < 1230740920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?q=define:contort < 1230740930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230740998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION designates ~/Code/crap/foo.scm as his Chicken testpad. < 1230741041 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1230741312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chicken.wiki.br/sandbox Ooooooooh yes < 1230741346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame about the lack of io tho. < 1230741779 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1230742584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm chicken, isn't it r6rs iirc? < 1230742590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it one of those that isn't < 1230742888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1230742904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a sideset of r5rs. < 1230742906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(subset & superset) < 1230742922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://call-with-current-continuation.org/ < 1230742931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1230742931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/ < 1230742933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs the www. < 1230742955 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230743735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1230743759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:01:56 so cute i'm almost crying :) < 1230745059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:12:32 i never understood these laws, at least 100% of 13-year-olds are having sex anyway < 1230745330 0 :atrapado!n=affs@cm126109.red.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1230746956 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1230747115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR KAZAKHSTAN < 1230747132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY OLD YEAR < 1230747136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1230747141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY OLD YEAR < 1230747151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ehird -----### < 1230747161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals oerjan's swatter < 1230747172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats oerjan -----### < 1230747182 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches ehird get eaten by the swatter < 1230747190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats the swatter before it manages < 1230747195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION burrrrrrrrrrrrrp < 1230747202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's distantly related to the Luggage, you see < 1230747235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches a big bump forming on ehird's stomach < 1230747242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats the bump < 1230747315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to something chewing inside ehird's stomach < 1230747325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats himself < 1230747333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T CHEW A SINGULARITY < 1230747337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there _might_ be a bit of xenomorph in it, too < 1230747379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that was a singularly bad idea < 1230747390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR BANGLADESH < 1230747391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION absorbs all light. < 1230747402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts sucking in random shit and grows bigger. < 1230747408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey am blak hol < 1230747424 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flies to the LHC to make an opposing hole < 1230747470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION absorbs the LHC while it is turned on < 1230747476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoah, freaky. < 1230747480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The black holes are trying to suck me in. < 1230747485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are no match for I. < 1230747605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ("try to make bad programs crash") < 1230747619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"try to make bad programs end life as we know it" < 1230747625 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now _that's_ offensive < 1230747636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that's what I'm doing right now as a black hole. < 1230747639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gobbles up oerjan < 1230747647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you're not a program < 1230747655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I am. < 1230747662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION retrieves his swatter from inside ehird < 1230747670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in a black hole. < 1230747675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck are you using the internet? < 1230747678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is my swatter < 1230747695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :superluminal eta waves < 1230747702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BH-no-escape-3.svg < 1230747796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:26:17 okay16:26:26 here's an actual question as opposed to a rant.16:28:21 nevermind16:28:24 here's some more ranting. < 1230748058 0 :psygnisf_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230748078 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230748193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:18:57] < fizzie> we both have this weird habit of first writing a befunge interpreter when trying to learn a new language. < 1230748195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- 2002 < 1230748256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did too, except with unlambda < 1230748376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR INDIA < 1230748392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of those strange half-hour countries < 1230748481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm happy, why? < 1230748518 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freak natural accident? < 1230748528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230748939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Your guess may be initially best, but when it's entered, it may change the average, thus becoming less accurate. < 1230748955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1230748962 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adding a guess equal to the average would tend not to change the average, at least for means < 1230748974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: getting a guess -equal- to the average is very unlikely < 1230748977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about close to the average < 1230748984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1230749001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you add a number, the average is going to get closer to that number < 1230749009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1230749014 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if it was closest, it must still be < 1230749032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably true for median too < 1230749065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact that might be taken as an axiom for a reasonable average < 1230749074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess so < 1230749132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard about the mediocrity game? < 1230749155 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1230749198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230749242 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's played in levels < 1230749286 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Happy New Year guys ;)" < 1230749302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph why no google link < 1230749309 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(proper) < 1230749477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think someone had purged the links :D < 1230749536 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there < 1230749551 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on level 0 everyone selects a number (1-10), say < 1230749561 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the middle number wins that level < 1230749611 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for level n: play m games of level n-1 mediocrity. the winner is the one with the middle number of n-1 wins < 1230749657 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The strategy for higher level games of mediocrity (3+) is extremely difficult." < 1230749664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://everything2.com/title/Mediocrity < 1230749718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230749730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mine's cooler though. < 1230749738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is meta about the actual bets < 1230750151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR UZBEKISTAN < 1230750183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR MOLVANIA < 1230750348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubbish. that's at least 3 hours yet < 1230750366 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR MALDIVES < 1230750761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY BIRTHDAY MALDIVES < 1230751422 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute < 1230751936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR AFGHANISTAN < 1230751944 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're gonna need it < 1230753623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR ARMENIA < 1230753731 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230753884 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1230754052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:36:28] < fizzie> hmm, got an idea. why not run all ietf drafts through a markov-process-like-word-mangler like the befunge psycho meta brain works. easy way to get an unlimited number of more internet-drafts. < 1230754716 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230754848 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230754851 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230754924 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-35.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1230755114 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that amuses me because of the randomly-generated paper that got accepted into a conference this year. < 1230755315 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230755327 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230755439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR IRAN < 1230755484 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really need to cheer up < 1230755629 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asztal: sokal affair again? < 1230755991 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less < 1230755992 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgen#Prominent_Results < 1230756005 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was this year though, not 2005 < 1230756040 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was on reddit recently < 1230756055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a computer generated paper < 1230756057 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230756060 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230756112 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it seems it was 2005. well typical of reddit < 1230756205 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230756205 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230756213 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230757286 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'On two occasions I have been asked,—"Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" [...] I am not able rightly to comprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.' < 1230757371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i read that quote when I was like in the womb. < 1230757376 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1230757388 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only just read it and i find it quite pithy < 1230757413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it follows on from being indistinguishable from magic. < 1230757453 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230757455 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1230757465 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230757465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :metazilla: are you the mooz_ of 2002 gone by? < 1230757468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moozilla: < 1230757488 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird have you been around here since 2002? < 1230757502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: no, but I have logs of dec 2002 from fizzie :P < 1230757507 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1230757510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I was here in 2002 tho < 1230757520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have been 7 < 1230757525 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna say, esoterica? when you were just 7? what nonsense is this < 1230757542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or 6 < 1230757549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :birthday in august, so, 6 < 1230757557 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd've been lesse < 1230757559 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16? < 1230757578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1230757587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under 16s here: ihope, deveah, ... < 1230757588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think thats it < 1230757589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230757591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie < 1230757592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1230757601 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets pretend it's 6 years ago < 1230757610 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill be 16 you be 6. < 1230757610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: that's impossible, this place was way cooler then < 1230757617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, fizzie didn't use uppercase for chrissake < 1230757619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the power of 2002 < 1230757626 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION age 16 raeps you age 6 < 1230757630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1230757632 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah nothing changed i see! < 1230757633 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230757645 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uppercase? what's uppercase? < 1230757647 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1230757648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lol < 1230757649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu r u < 1230757667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know how I typed when I was 6 (I didn't use any social communimacation machines on the interweb). < 1230757685 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt either but thats because when i was 6 we didnt have electricity < 1230757687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I typed basically all lower-case, punctuation-netspeak-clusterfuck of incoherency when I was 8. < 1230757703 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never typed that way < 1230757715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading back on what I said then, it was awful. I can't even figure out wtf I was saying. < 1230757723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needless to say, I was universally hated. :P < 1230757740 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it takes a more refined eye to detect your youth < 1230757801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was dreading my 13th birthday. Because non-retarded 13 year olds are slightly more common. :P < 1230757820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR MADAGASCAR < 1230757856 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madagascar 2 was a good movie, surprisingly < 1230757940 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm < 1230757952 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was you? < 1230757954 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird have you seen my websites backgrounds? < 1230757958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1230757980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, I just came off as annoying and idiotic. < 1230757990 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arent they lovely backgrounds, ehird? :D < 1230757996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :P < 1230757999 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230758014 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im considering using a massive 1D CA trace < 1230758020 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 110 doing some computation < 1230758050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: just make it run game of life in the background. < 1230758051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230758056 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much effort < 1230758065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: pre-render it as an anigif < 1230758077 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too annoying < 1230758119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: who cares < 1230758122 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1230758186 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230758192 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230758198 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230758241 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous CAs are weird < 1230758271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1230758315 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous CAs < 1230758322 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to ones that use discrete time/space < 1230758331 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230758335 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230758387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1230758435 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_spatial_automaton < 1230758505 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous spatial automaton might describe the universe ;) < 1230758508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatula automaton < 1230758513 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1230758516 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatual! < 1230758521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758527 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spataul! < 1230758529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758540 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatalu! < 1230758567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758579 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sputala! < 1230758582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758602 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sputaal! < 1230758604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758608 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suptaal! < 1230758612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, spatula. < 1230758621 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatula! < 1230758651 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latsaup < 1230758652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, spatula. < 1230758654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1230758657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you oerjan < 1230758658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ruined it < 1230758659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230758662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU RUINED EVERYTHING < 1230758662 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatula spatula spatual! :D < 1230758665 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually a genuine norwegian insult < 1230758672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latsaup you, then. < 1230758689 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least sounds like one < 1230758701 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spatual! :D < 1230758723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :splatau < 1230758733 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :splatau!! :DDD < 1230758744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[07:55:30] < lament> calamari: They're probably on crack, so your argument doesn't hold < 1230758750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--2002 < 1230758764 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://handson.provocateuse.com/images/photos/christian_bale_10.jpg < 1230758765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitler! < 1230758766 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :christian bale is emo < 1230759090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:47:45] < navigator> hey have any ascii anime porn links? < 1230759091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- 2002 < 1230759096 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230759544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:14:16] < navigator> to use linux as the wa^H^Hgateway, mustn't i put 1 in /proc/sus^H^Hys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and that's it? < 1230759549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are literal ^Hs in the file < 1230759550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rare gem < 1230759646 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean those aren't attempts at irony? < 1230759652 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1230759653 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://complexification.net/gallery/ < 1230759659 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :choose something for me to use as my desktop < 1230759659 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wa^H shows some promise < 1230759682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: generate a file with random noise pixels and use that < 1230759685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'swhat I did for a while < 1230759697 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1230759698 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :white noise? < 1230759704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, random noise pixels < 1230759713 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, visual white noise < 1230759719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: but multicolour. < 1230759723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :photoshop doesit :P < 1230759726 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230759732 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know if i want THAT tho < 1230759739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awfully wonderful < 1230759760 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see < 1230759767 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1230759772 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :photoshop needs to start faster < 1230759776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that binary ring thing somehow disturbs me. take that. < 1230759781 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1230759794 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(second last) < 1230759830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/take that/use that/ < 1230759843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn idioms < 1230759857 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1230759880 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what scales gaussian noise can be tiled at without looking repetetive < 1230759888 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to experiment! < 1230759910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM repetetetive < 1230759932 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1230759944 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITYM repetetetetive < 1230760196 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1230760207 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a way to script creating random noise < 1230760217 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tiling images < 1230760348 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230760357 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it becomes hard to detect tiling at 50px < 1230760365 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not impossible but its not as obvious as, say, 10px < 1230760367 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 20px < 1230761038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR ZAMBIA < 1230761075 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1230761109 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah someone who hails from the future year 2009 < 1230761125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :planning to celebrate the leap second? < 1230761135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all are. < 1230761135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. < 1230761358 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont notice the leap second < 1230761364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will force you to. < 1230761370 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1230761400 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you know whats good about 2009? < 1230761403 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star trek :D < 1230761409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, it will be a short torture < 1230761431 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean star trek becomes real in 2009? < 1230761436 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1230761443 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2009 we'll be flying around in space ships. < 1230761451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about time! < 1230762328 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1230762832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1230762835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz to be updating topicK? < 1230762861 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1230762867 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR GREAT ZIMBABWE < 1230762885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no +1:30 timezones in the wp list < 1230762912 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that will do < 1230762932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they need it too < 1230762943 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinze +1:30 doesnt exist, we wish happy new year to an empire that doesnt exist < 1230762946 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230762994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else should update next half hour as i will be going out to watch fireworks < 1230763010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in half an hour < 1230763552 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im in an exceptional mood gentlemen < 1230763554 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCEPTION < 1230763555 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AL < 1230763560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poop < 1230763641 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230763765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the :) means it's an exceptionally _good_ mood rather than the opposite < 1230763770 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fireworks -> < 1230764005 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> fireworks < 1230764035 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? +1? < 1230764108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1230764208 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is in sweden right? < 1230764244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230764245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway < 1230764257 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1230764274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who gets the happy new year at 23:00 UTC? < 1230764345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1230764347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :molvania < 1230764353 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR ALBANIA, ANDORRA, AUSTRIA, BELGIUM, BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA, CROATIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, FRANCE, GERMANY, GIBRALTAR, HUNGARY, ITALY, KOSOVO, LIECHTENSTEIN, LUXEMBOURG, MACEDONIA, MALTA, MONACO, MONTENEGRO, NETHERLANDS, NORWAY, POLAND, SAN MARINO, SERBIA, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, SPAIN, EXCEPT CANARY ISLANDS, SV < 1230764362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SV < 1230764365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: you're a few seconds early < 1230764365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SV------- < 1230764375 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is got cut off :( < 1230764383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut out the log < 1230764384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1230764386 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAPPY NEW YEAR ALBANIA, ANDORRA, AUSTRIA, BELGIUM, BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA, CROATIA, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, FRANCE, GERMANY, GIBRALTAR, HUNGARY, ITALY, KOSOVO, LIECHTENSTEIN, LUXEMBOURG, MACEDONIA, MALTA, MONACO, MONTENEGRO, NETHERLANDS, NORWAY, POLAND, SAN MARINO, SERBIA, SLOVAKIA, SLOVENIA, SPAIN, EXCEPT CANARY ISLANDS, SVALBARD AND JAN MAYEN, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TUNISIA, VATICAN CITY, ALGERIA, ANGOLA, BENIN < 1230764386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares about the logs < 1230764388 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :, BOUVET ISLAND, CAMEROON, CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC, CHAD, DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, GABON, NIGER, NIGERIA, AND REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO! < 1230764391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: BENIN- < 1230764416 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | UTC leap second today, Dec 31 @ 23:59:60 | try http://time.gov/ | HAPPY NEW YEAR OERJAN < 1230764431 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u.u < 1230764760 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1230764766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M OFFICIALLY A COUNTRY < 1230764775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO, HAPPY NEW YEAR < 1230764786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I care about the logs < 1230764789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does oklopol < 1230764791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do freenode < 1230764793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w/e mon < 1230764805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is impresent < 1230764816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oklopol is esolang programming < 1230764821 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, this channel is actually about him < 1230764897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVALBARD AND JAN MAYEN belong to norway, btw < 1230764949 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jan mayen has our only volcano < 1230765102 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was going to say something about how countries with "democratic" in their names are rarely democratic < 1230765124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no more firevurkz? < 1230765139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i checked up the republic of the congo without the democratic part and found out it's not much better < 1230765161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decided fireworks are really stupid, especially when you need to go to the toilet < 1230765194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this place was so much better in 2002 < 1230765198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS NOW 2002, OK < 1230765211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is officially 1993 < 1230765214 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has been all month < 1230765216 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :)-`: < 1230765221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 2002 is cool < 1230765224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DON'T LIKE US < 1230765226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is exempted from eternal september < 1230765229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can come. < 1230765243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: calling you in. < 1230765247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :navigator, lament, mooz_: you too. < 1230765264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric was basically just a conversation between fizzie, navigator and mooz_ < 1230765270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with lament and dbc occasionally butting in. < 1230765275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're talking about tibooks., < 1230765284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'll sneak you in the backdoor while ehird isn't looking :D < 1230765291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1230765329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a tibook. any relation to springboks? < 1230765343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Titanium Powerbook. < 1230765347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Apple computar. < 1230765363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_G4 < 1230765446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a conundrum < 1230765465 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will eternal september end when the whole world has internet access? < 1230765470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1230765471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:22:07] < navigator> i'm not sure why to kill the neighbor's dog < 1230765496 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's barking, or rather howling, half of the day < 1230765509 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least that's why _i_ want to kill the neighbor's dog < 1230765509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:26:51] -!- mode/#esoteric [+o navigator] by ChanServ < 1230765510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA. < 1230765511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE'S OP? < 1230765515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS NEW> < 1230765520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is awesome < 1230765522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1230765533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hasn't been seen for years? < 1230765533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[23:27:58] < fizzie> IN SOVIET RUSSIA baby jesus makes os X and fvwm2 cry! (ok, that's it, no more /. for me) < 1230765537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was funny in 2002 < 1230765561 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm still in 2002, as i laughed < 1230765565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lolled < 1230765617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1230765617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[00:31:37] < mooz_> hmm, esolang discussions are rather rare here < 1230765620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRECEDENT!! < 1230765629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRESIDENT!! < 1230765653 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRESCIENT!! < 1230765661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1230765668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CREAMPUFF!! < 1230765693 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh hard one < 1230765701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DREAMSTUFF!! < 1230765744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230765745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREEN < 1230765757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPLEEN < 1230765766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEAN < 1230765769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MACHINE < 1230765779 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BACHINE < 1230765782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precedent PResident Prescient Creampuff Dreamstuff Green Spleen Mean Machine Bachine < 1230765784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is some machine < 1230765792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOCHA < 1230765794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPPCDGSMMB < 1230765797 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, MOCCA < 1230765797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PPPCDGSMMBM < 1230765810 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POPPADUM < 1230765837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it is MOCHA in english < 1230765844 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230765889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAPADOPOULOS < 1230765942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:48:18] < IcemanX> Have you seen navigator? < 1230765942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:49:20] < IcemanX> Hurry up please! < 1230765944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:49:51] < IcemanX> Have you seen navigator? < 1230765946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:50:04] < IcemanX> fizzie? < 1230765948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing with this is < 1230765950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy comes in every few days < 1230765952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and asks for navigator < 1230765954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never does anything else < 1230765957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they always miss each other by a few minutes < 1230766009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no one notices that they look just the same except for glasses? < 1230766014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1230766032 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in phonology thatd be called complementary distribtion < 1230766047 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we'd use to infer that two things are really the same thing < 1230766070 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously linguists in the Marvel universe is well aware of superman and clark kents sameness < 1230766075 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another possibility is that navigator is psychic and _really_ doesn't want to see IcemanX < 1230766108 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong universe, psygnisfive < 1230766130 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DC < 1230766131 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1230766134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Day changed Wed Jan 01 2003 < 1230766278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:21:42] < lament> I am not the channel founder < 1230766278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:22:01] < lament> navigator is. < 1230766280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:22:09] * andreou == navigator < 1230766282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait wait < 1230766285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was aardappel????????????? < 1230766355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAPPY NEW YEAR + 32 minutes! < 1230766364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year - 32 minutes < 1230766370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1230766379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year - (60 - 32) minutes < 1230766384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: i'll sneak you in the backdoor while ehird isn't looking :D <-- ?? < 1230766389 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-252-201.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1230766400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're going back to 2002 < 1230766406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when this place was cooler < 1230766411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you are not expected to understand this < 1230766433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I guess I was just a random victim then < 1230766443 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i wouldn't say that < 1230766449 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not random at all, no < 1230766453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh btw that wouldn't have worked I was just standing inside the backdoor around then < 1230766457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching fireworks < 1230766463 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230766483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, happy new year < 1230766484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and I knew it was closed, too cold to have it open < 1230766488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, same < 1230766495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : happy new year - (60 - 32) minutes < 1230766496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230766500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : happy new year + (60 - 32) minutes < 1230766501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230766507 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy new year from Karlsruhe/Germany ! < 1230766508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would have worked for you < 1230766508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... < 1230766509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230766514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: happy 2008 for me. What's it like in 2009? < 1230766516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't new year yet here. < 1230766517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1230766523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the same < 1230766524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering going there in about half an hour, could do with a review < 1230766532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same? < 1230766534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't bother then. < 1230766539 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy hours away from the new year. < 1230766540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, however a very high amount of fireworks so far this year < 1230766545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highly unusual < 1230766553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awful < 1230766555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: put it this way: AnMaster didn't recommend it, so I'd imagine you'd jump at the chance < 1230766561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230766561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[05:29:40] * lament is away: my tarantula is molting!!!! < 1230766570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1230766573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- 2002 < 1230766578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1230766578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jan 2003 < 1230766579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by now < 1230766583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm would you say "counter clockwise" or "anti clockwise" < 1230766585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in English < 1230766585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reading >3000 lines of logs from fizzie < 1230766589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: both. < 1230766600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one is more common? < 1230766602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they're both correct, I hear anticlockwise more often < 1230766610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dictionary list both < 1230766613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230766616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear both the same < 1230766618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it depends < 1230766622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"turn the dial anticlockwise" < 1230766622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1230766627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a reverse clock goes counterclockwise" < 1230766640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230766644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nah, I'd say it went anticlockwise < 1230766647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore would be an anticlock < 1230766651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's because you suck < 1230766668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like ned and ner in Swedish then (both means "down") < 1230766682 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, an anticlock would make _time_ go backwards < 1230766699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:05:22] -!- lament [~lament@h24-78-145-92.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ricotee < 1230766700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:10:45] < lament> my tarantula molted! < 1230766707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230766710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ricotee -> mangled #esoteric < 1230766713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and would cease to exist if it came in physical contact with a normal clock? < 1230766713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is fucked up on this system < 1230766723 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: quite probably < 1230766726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very messed up for you to typo it that badly < 1230766731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought that was what vi always was < 1230766733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1230766733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a typo, ais523 < 1230766737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi actually displayed it as that < 1230766749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has miscalculated the number of columns in my terminal < 1230766751 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats AnMaster -----### < 1230766768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh you are not one of us enlightened emacs users? < 1230766772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pitty you < 1230766776 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think that counterclockwise is called counterclockwise because a counter clock goes that way. < 1230766792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has used both vi and emacs for months each. < 1230766795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, hah < 1230766796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer TextMate. < 1230766798 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs? vi(m)? < 1230766802 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with ehird < 1230766804 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TM > all < 1230766804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also use kate and kdevelop < 1230766812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: shut up, you're making me look bad by association. < 1230766823 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rapes ehird < 1230766827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1230766831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not shutting up. < 1230766852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that moaning is rather noisy < 1230766853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use emacs as my main programming editor, gedit for quick notes, and vi every now and then (normally over ssh or telnet) < 1230766869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi is fine, just I haven't really got to know it yet < 1230766914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs and kate for programming; kdevelop for programming too, but not as often; nano for quick config editing as root or over ssh < 1230766937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use emacs for lisp and haskell. < 1230766964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1230766990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: vi is pretty much a universal editor for UNIX-alikes, and it fits in hardly any disk space < 1230766993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which care good reasons to know it < 1230767008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I use systems which don't have enough disk space to fit emacs on them < 1230767930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE BRACE FOR UPCOMING LEAP SECOND < 1230767935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is time.gov down? < 1230767938 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to access it < 1230767951 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's not < 1230767955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just didn't work the first time for some reason