< 1230768005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1230768021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was rough < 1230768024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid time.gov missed the leap second < 1230768026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230768027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1230768030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed it < 1230768031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck my LIFE < 1230768034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it stayed on 23:59:59 for two seconds < 1230768036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'((((((((( < 1230768039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eklw;rlewjkljfksldffd < 1230768039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I was refreshing really quickly < 1230768045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that site's clearly badly written < 1230768047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has a java applet. < 1230768051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ntp.lth.se had 59 for 2 seconds < 1230768053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1230768054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's the official site. < 1230768062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but I don't have javascript on < 1230768067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java < 1230768068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript < 1230768071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern2differenciate < 1230768077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refreshed more than once a second for the relevant period, and it never said 23:59:60 < 1230768080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I know the difference < 1230768091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if I don't even turn JS on, what's the chance I run Java? < 1230768118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I had all the computery time-keeping devices all loadde < 1230768121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I bloody missed it. < 1230768176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, look there will be another leap second in a few years < 1230768183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY NEW YEAR ICELAND < 1230768186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'll miss. again. < 1230768221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, haha < 1230768245 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a leap second tonight? < 1230768250 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait a minute. < 1230768256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, there *was* < 1230768262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 4 minutes ago < 1230768267 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, that means I missed it. < 1230768274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1230768282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't anyone say: "Happy leap second" < 1230768283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230768298 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to wait until... not many years from now. < 1230768299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1230768319 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was that bad. just be glad you missed it. < 1230768328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because time.gov missed it < 1230768335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1230768510 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-198.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1230768997 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1230769010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mi < 1230769131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do < 1230769157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sol < 1230769159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fa < 1230769239 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :la < 1230769253 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ti < 1230769261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x < 1230769262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i win < 1230769268 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230769271 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I win < 1230769272 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230769356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moozilla: mooz_? < 1230769758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware of the mööse for they are böse < 1230769951 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is that your final answer? < 1230769956 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may want to consider "si" instead. < 1230769986 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mais non < 1230770019 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the superficial similarity, I think it was established that moozilla and mooz are completely separate people. < 1230770024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1230770026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyyy fizzie < 1230770030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start using lowercase again < 1230770031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1230770043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm you're one of two fizzies, one was in 2002/2003 < 1230770049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this one is in now < 1230770053 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do they look similar except for glasses? < 1230770111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, happy new year < 1230770166 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy new; although this time zone had it quite a while ago. < 1230770175 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'll go back to lowercase, though. < 1230770187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy today! < 1230770191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: DO IT < 1230770192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's all the rage < 1230770326 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230770332 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230770402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, < 1230770404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/var/log/kern.log:Jan 1 00:59:59 tux [903182.515007] Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC < 1230770406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230770411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:59:59 < 1230770416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1230770425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1230770432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did the kernel know how to do it? < 1230770437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it inserted the leap second at 00:59:59 so it was there at 00:59:60 < 1230770439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ntpd tells it < 1230770439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it contain a database or something < 1230770443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bto < 1230770446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ntp < 1230770446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1230770450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tried it locally < 1230770452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? a special system call or? < 1230770452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leap second just delays < 1230770456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah < 1230770460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, just ntp < 1230770463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1230770464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jan 1 00:00:00 dell kernel: [ 9654.690507] Clock: inserting leap second 23:59:60 UTC < 1230770465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just delays the clock < 1230770467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in kern.log < 1230770468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes but < 1230770469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something wrong about the timing there... < 1230770470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means kernel source < 1230770472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't actually hit 23:59:60 < 1230770476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it emulates the leap second < 1230770477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := broken < 1230770480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time _repeats_ < 1230770481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1230770483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, POSIX leap seconds are broken < 1230770484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually repeats the second < 1230770487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1230770489 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230770491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in the kernel log < 1230770494 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230770500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and? < 1230770502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message did not come from ntp, but from the kernel < 1230770506 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Unix time were the leap second and its twin sister? < 1230770515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, no idea < 1230770518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the kernel would never do leap seconds if ntp didn't tell it to. < 1230770525 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1230770529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they're set arbitrarily by humans < 1230770538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but what system call... < 1230770556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1230770583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a system call in there somewhere, almost certainly < 1230770583 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The twin sister is 00:00:00 on January 1, 2009. So 2009 - 1970 plus leap years, times 86400. < 1230770585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getdate(3p): < 1230770585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : %S Seconds [00,60]. The range goes to 60 (rather than stopping at 59) to allow positive leap seconds to be expressed. Since leap < 1230770586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : seconds cannot be predicted by any algorithm, leap second data must come from some external source. < 1230770588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1230770590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230770595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a posix man page < 1230770596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but it's not actually used. < 1230770601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1230770603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230770604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not posix < 1230770605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1230770640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1230770640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cr.yp.to/proto/utctai.html < 1230770686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is a 3p page < 1230770693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is text copied from posix standard < 1230770694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah its localtime() that's fucked < 1230770695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems < 1230770720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's adjtimex(2) < 1230770726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230770726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that deals with leap seconds < 1230770785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1230770789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in return value?! < 1230770798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to man page < 1230770803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that puzzled me too < 1230770813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how much yp.to costs djb < 1230770830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one of the possible options for the "mode selector" option in the struct < 1230770845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well the mode selector doesn't define such an option there < 1230770851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"time offset"? < 1230770868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea, really < 1230770870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that could be ntp doing "jump time" and it may do that for lots of other reasons < 1230770871 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"You only need one wheel. Bikers are just greedy." < 1230770875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like initial adjustment < 1230770877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1230770886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which happens most of the time at boot < 1230770902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I suppose so < 1230770921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't get leap seconds then < 1230770957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : int status; /* clock command/status */ < 1230770964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that? < 1230770973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find a description of it there < 1230771149 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230771156 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230771314 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230771322 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230771515 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Abandonando" < 1230771913 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, I'm being defeated by plastic < 1230771917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And glue) < 1230771921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coo < 1230771999 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JNGNEUGNEGNE < 1230772000 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neughara < 1230772005 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idsnrt ibepm zu b eutrjne < 1230772007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230772008 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,.�.,,,,,,,,,,,,, < 1230772009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: stop < 1230772013 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY NEW YEAR AZORES < 1230772013 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no nwayx < 1230772018 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NEYWAEREar < 1230772022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: you're drunk < 1230772023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm/deny < 1230772023 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to guvkreignv < 1230772024 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230772025 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i wam < 1230772035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's flexo? < 1230772037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: you might want to avoid irc :P < 1230772040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: person < 1230772041 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : O < 1230772044 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_IEAM NO' < 1230772044 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tt < 1230772052 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :baoyy < 1230772055 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new year < 1230772057 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evesonw < 1230772057 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230772057 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1230772059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gdf < 1230772060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afij < 1230772061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new < 1230772063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarjijoer < 1230772065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is cool
< 1230772066 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be just noehtier < 1230772069 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't have _that_ much trouble typing on irc when drunk. admittedly that's not often.
< 1230772070 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric < 1230772072 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy new years eve, flexo < 1230772073 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :langwuaflege < 1230772074 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo whar < 1230772075 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230772079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric langwuaflege. :D < 1230772081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or happy new year < 1230772086 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it probably is, at least to me < 1230772088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for me < 1230772094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not drunk, just tired
< 1230772108 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1230772111 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can tyepe < 1230772120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very well. < 1230772125 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xa well < 1230772133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i assure you you are typing badly < 1230772141 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230772144 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bu < 1230772145 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1230772152 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wote some < 1230772160 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatsd the wor < 1230772161 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1230772161 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1230772164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: write an esoalng interpreter while drunk < 1230772167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be amazing < 1230772180 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm jus t deayoing < 1230772181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will cmolipe pfercetly < 1230772185 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrong yapi.b < 1230772188 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence < 1230772190 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1230772194 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :', entitelted < 1230772200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is great < 1230772200 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be drunkt < 1230772202 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rihgt now < 1230772256 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1230772265 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you know < 1230772270 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you dont < 1230772273 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aynway < 1230772274 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im < 1230772276 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knida < 1230772278 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk < 1230772288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: "kinda" < 1230772294 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeqa :) < 1230772301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to ping AnMaster now so I can laugh at him ranting against alcohol, twice the fun < 1230772305 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta eat some paracetamol < 1230772313 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230772318 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nd i stole some..d < 1230772325 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont know the name < 1230772332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1230772332 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :christmas tree balls? < 1230772336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1230772344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night AnMaster < 1230772344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT AnMaster < 1230772354 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very shiny balls < 1230772359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why is it AnMaster you expect to rant against alcohol? < 1230772360 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glizering < 1230772362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not me, for instance/ < 1230772366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because he always does < 1230772370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever alcohol is mentioned < 1230772377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, I haven't drunk in years < 1230772385 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i only got threee < 1230772394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: only three?! ;'( < 1230772394 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other balls were too risky < 1230772425 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1230772431 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting sobar eninga < 1230772432 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aain < 1230772434 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gai < 1230772435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you are < 1230772436 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gains < 1230772438 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1230772440 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230772454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1230772455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: are yuo sure? yuo seem a bdrit drunnnnkkkkkk < 1230772458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is flexo? < 1230772459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new here? < 1230772466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :few ddays nwew < 1230772469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also I never ever drunk alcohol < 1230772472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1230772474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :told ya < 1230772483 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i invedted the brainfuck module divission aivleorighe :( < 1230772486 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :algithrihmn < 1230772491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but talking to a currently drunk person about it would be useless < 1230772492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he's famous. < 1230772494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an oldbie. < 1230772495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1230772498 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230772502 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exacgtly < 1230772502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: talking to drunk people is easy. < 1230772506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I used to, but I haven't for years < 1230772510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I realised I didn't like it < 1230772514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what he says make no sense < 1230772518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he is drunk < 1230772521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it does, he's just making typos. < 1230772521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unreadable < 1230772522 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it makes all sense < 1230772525 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1230772531 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a setence without errors < 1230772536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one :P < 1230772536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky < 1230772542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what ehird said < 1230772595 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d*b stil sinst here < 1230772605 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wjat am i doing here < 1230772623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: talking < 1230772626 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230772626 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230772629 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you people < 1230772633 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awake an andthing < 1230772640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm awake < 1230772642 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can solve my.. rjomg < 1230772644 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1230772647 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230772648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the problem < 1230772652 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toadskin < 1230772658 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know TS? < 1230772665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1230772668 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1230772668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a sub-tc thingy? < 1230772673 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TS is not CS < 1230772674 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TC < 1230772676 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but! < 1230772682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://billglover.com/software/toadskin/ hm < 1230772683 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if TC hat no ring-buffer < 1230772684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives themself a link: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Toadskin
< 1230772692 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nd the accumulator was stored on the callstack < 1230772697 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be TC? < 1230772702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1230772704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno :D < 1230772716 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figure it out plz, thanks < 1230772740 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it woudl be < 1230772751 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Toadskin page says it's TC; is it lying? < 1230772751 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just an assumption < 1230772755 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ydes < 1230772757 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lying < 1230772761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it not tc? < 1230772762 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many ways < 1230772778 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the referene tc interpreter it so buggy, it's not usable < 1230772782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, its only unlimited-size storage is a single stack < 1230772793 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[] is broken in the rereference interpreter < 1230772794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which just screams "PDA" to me < 1230772803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230772824 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if it was implemented correctly its still not TC < 1230772825 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also has a "ring buffer" for the arguments < 1230772831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the spec doesn't explain how that works < 1230772838 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's jujst a stimple 1 stackmachine < 1230772840 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IME ring buffers have been finite-sized < 1230772845 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1230772851 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you remove the stupid ringbbuffer < 1230772859 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add the accumulator to the callstack < 1230772868 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thing it *might* m < 1230772870 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be TC < 1230772875 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure thoufht < 1230772876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: can you get variables unlimitedly deep in the callstack? < 1230772878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1230772882 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope < 1230772884 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont need to < 1230772887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's any limit at all, it can't be TC without some other sort of data storage < 1230772912 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, as long as the callstack and the argstack are not limited....' < 1230772916 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230772923 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230772928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: wait, would there be two stacks then? < 1230772929 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the ampoutnt of words you can define are limited < 1230772932 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230772933 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and could you pop one whilst pushing the other? < 1230772937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, it might work < 1230772939 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230772948 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the amount of words are limied < 1230772963 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is if the amount of words are enough to prove TC < 1230772981 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my "enhanced" TS) < 1230772986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a bf interp in them. < 1230772994 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats my plan < 1230772996 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im drunk# < 1230772997 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230773001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: alternatively, turing machine < 1230773003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :minsky machine < 1230773004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota < 1230773004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230773007 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,3 TM, yea < 1230773008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the possibilities are endless < 1230773013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,3? thank ais523 for that < 1230773021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he hadn't proved it was TC that might not be enough ;-) < 1230773023 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't try to implement the 2,3 to prove TCness < 1230773027 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that was him? < 1230773031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: yeah < 1230773033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why not? < 1230773035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you need some way to set up the input tape correctly < 1230773035 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1230773037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a pain < 1230773046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but as long as you can prove its the right 2,3... < 1230773047 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous people in here < 1230773050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most programming languages don't like handling an infinite amount of input < 1230773053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: indeed < 1230773062 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230773073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "this program is TC, but it takes infinitely long to run" tends not to ring well with programmers < 1230773083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a program cannot be tc... < 1230773093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it could be an interpreter for a TC language < 1230773113 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230773114 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230773115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1230773135 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230773144 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, being my personal god < 1230773154 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my enhanced TS TC? < 1230773166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: I admit I don't understand exactly how it works < 1230773169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's likely to be, though < 1230773182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you have recursion to manipulate the function stack < 1230773186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < and > to manipulate the arg stack < 1230773188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll look weird, though < 1230773197 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. but a limited amount of words < 1230773209 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you cant go as deep in the callstack as you want < 1230773210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't normally need many if it's TC at all < 1230773214 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the problem < 1230773215 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Puzzi. S�, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi." < 1230773218 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be doable even with 1 < 1230773238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although when I've done TCness proofs before normally about 5 or 6 of what corresponds to a Toadskin function is enough < 1230773243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a fixed interp I could tinker with? < 1230773250 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230773258 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only for the "described" TS < 1230773263 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for my improved one < 1230773273 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should be easy to extend < 1230773275 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230773292 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter doesnt push acc to cs < 1230773294 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ts < 1230773296 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs < 1230773322 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://flexotec.eu/~flexo/toadskin.rbhttp://flexotec.eu/~flexo/toadskin.rb < 1230773324 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1230773330 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://flexotec.eu/~flexo/toadskin.rb < 1230773349 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one is not TC for sure < 1230773361 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a simple stackmachone < 1230773404 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1230773406 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1230773410 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got to the point < 1230773419 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoning ex-gilfrirends < 1230773446 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily i rembembered to get my phone off the cord a couple o ouard ago < 1230773488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: you said you were getting sober :P < 1230773565 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh amnit < 1230773580 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the requested .. thinge.. doesnt ajsnwer" < 1230773583 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230773583 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230773636 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should tkae some paracetammal < 1230773641 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get som slee < 1230773641 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1230773696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: ++ < 1230773740 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anforunatly < 1230773752 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant talk to ##c without being id.djd < 1230773755 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :id-ed < 1230773759 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i geusss < 1230773768 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this kinda makes a ponit for paracetmaotl < 1230773771 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+sleeep < 1230773803 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1230773803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye. < 1230773808 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ex-girlfriends :( < 1230773811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye. < 1230773813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230773833 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont wanna annoy them... butl... but! < 1230773838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYE. < 1230773856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (sl)S(e)(:^)(::::^^^^)^^S(p)S < 1230773856 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sl ...out of time! < 1230773858 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the last one? < 1230773861 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1230773866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: no. sleep. < 1230773870 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230773882 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1230773892 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (sl)S(e)(:*)(::::****)^^S(p)S < 1230773892 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep < 1230773895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out what oerjan was doing
< 1230773898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: sleep so you don't regret it tomorrow. :P < 1230773909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ah, it becomes a lot more obvious once I see the corrected program < 1230773919 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how surprising < 1230773921 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: good poinr < 1230773933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230773949 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright then < 1230773954 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goot night ;) < 1230773975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1230774152 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1230774162 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (sl)S(e)(:*)(:*)(::**)^^^S(p)S < 1230774162 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep < 1230774165 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gave root-access o my servers to some scriptkiddie < 1230774169 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230774172 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reaylly time to go now# < 1230774173 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: why? < 1230774174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flexo: don't. < 1230774176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning. < 1230774177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regret. < 1230774179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :undo. that. < 1230774192 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. known him for like... 8 years < 1230774198 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230774200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some script kiddie < 1230774204 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's okay. somewhat:) < 1230774222 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just wants to flood some servers < 1230774232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1230774238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :friends help you move. real friends help you move bodies. < 1230774238 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ones being hosted in .nl i'm okay with that < 1230774275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script kiddie friends ask you to help them flood servers < 1230774301 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst case scenario - my ex-gf can no longer convert youtbue videos to mp3 with that box < 1230774307 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i can live with that < 1230774321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you, y'know, legally liable? < 1230774329 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.nl < 1230774355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's legal to ddos in .nl? er, k. < 1230774358 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if ".nl" is not so much of a legally argument < 1230774360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tomorrow we wake up to learn someone nuked the netherlands. nothing to worry about. < 1230774372 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people hes attacking are scrkiptkiides aswell ;) < 1230774388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only winning move is to kill yourself. < 1230774409 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1230774420 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm way to drunk to think about these things < 1230774429 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is < 1230774445 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy got some other guy to got me drunk in the first place < 1230774453 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i know that before i got there < 1230774456 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230774496 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i demolished a bank before that < 1230774506 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got other stuff to worry about < 1230774522 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you know, with video surveilannce and stuff) < 1230774538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. had you mentioned the bank demolishing < 1230774539 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fun fun < 1230774546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't thikn i would have worried about the script kiddie root access. < 1230774551 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230774557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that I cannot condone any illegal behaviour < 1230774567 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea well < 1230774568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, is silence implicit consent now? < 1230774571 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's new year < 1230774575 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1230774576 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends. did the script kiddie help him with the bank demolishing? < 1230774578 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s forgiven < 1230774579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapists all around the world are excited < 1230774582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, only in B < 1230774602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you demolish a bank anyway < 1230774603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bulldozer it? < 1230774618 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, just the stuff you can access < 1230774623 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the doors, ATMs and stuff < 1230774640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new year sure does bring out the best in everyone. < 1230774646 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230774668 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :living in a hicksville < 1230774678 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving to munich tomorrow < 1230774695 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm failry certain noone will ever trace this to me :) < 1230774716 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest you make a new year's resolution not to demolish any more banks. < 1230774725 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eehehee < 1230774798 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :koaky < 1230774800 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleepp < 1230774803 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defnitnv now < 1230774805 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sleeeps* < 1230775136 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230775143 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230775181 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230775185 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230775346 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY NEW YEAR SOUTH GEORGIA < 1230775395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to be drunk without the drunkness < 1230775399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore I will pretend to be drunadjsh < 1230775400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kd < 1230775402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drn < 1230775403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :driml < 1230775405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk < 1230775450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230775600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a itn of drynkent meoer jut anpone < 1230775618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pradon < 1230775623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i k;'' think i should lslepp < 1230775630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i murederjded thre r dogs < 1230775707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tnink yno sjoukd bt jubd to amimajs < 1230775748 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imless tgir trsllt annyiobd < 1230775766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sory, i have iouhr no ufkcings iodea what you are talking abtiuuuuu < 1230775796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess typing with one finger without looking at the keyboard is sorta overdoing it < 1230775849 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will type with one finger without looking at the keyboard now. < 1230775860 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hpe sm iu cffoiungh < 1230775870 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again... < 1230775883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yfat pribrs my tdeiry < 1230775942 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :csm i[p jtdu mt npe < 1230775972 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you hear me now < 1230775977 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was consistently too far right. < 1230775993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aopky doooooooooooo < 1230775995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p eople < 1230775996 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like [disliked right-leaning political group]! < 1230775997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how mnay banks < 1230776000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhave you demofloished < 1230776003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt < 1230776005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toady < 1230776008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a]]]at onnnnnnkewsyears < 1230776015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]]]]]]]]]]]I Aowojjjjjjist u kinda lisloiding ojver thek eynabrbod < 1230776017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard < 1230776020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet russia, banks demolish YOU < 1230776020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sliding < 1230776022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im < 1230776066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impnbsetbetil < 1230776104 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once mire eoth geekunf < 1230776128 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :geekunf is such a household word < 1230776159 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230776168 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230776180 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230776188 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230776277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph 2009 is not prime. i want my money back! < 1230776320 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 7 41 < 1230776410 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009 -> 2030 -> 203 -> 210 -> 21 -> eh, that's a multiple of 7. < 1230776427 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess we'll have to wait until 2011. < 1230776507 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the primeness of 2003
< 1230776533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so < 1230776545 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not divisible by 7, or 11... I'm bored. < 1230777174 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait till 2012 < 1230777178 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMG ESCHATON < 1230777191 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230777191 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230777211 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230777217 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230777417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"You Maya KEEPA YOUR 2012" < 1230778268 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230778280 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230778529 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO CLOSE TO HEAD MOUNTED DISPLAY < 1230779411 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1230779428 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mayan writing system has got to be the best example of an esoteric writing system < 1230779430 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1230779456 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, Linear-A is pretty esoteric (by the actual meaning of the word) < 1230779460 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230779465 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230779470 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linear A isn't esoteric at all :P < 1230779524 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayan glyphs are mostly phonemic so they represent sounds < 1230779536 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have crazy rules for how you write the sounds < 1230779557 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not only that but each sound has something like an average of 15 ways it can be written, simply for diversity's sake < 1230779599 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230779607 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230779986 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quit" < 1230780946 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1230781466 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-29.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1230782421 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1230782440 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they say that C isn't turing-complete because you can do sizeof(int*)? < 1230782452 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need pointers to be turing complete do you? < 1230782470 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just use recursion and allocate as much as you need on the stack < 1230782519 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the argument is fallacious < 1230782547 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any given C program as compiled at any given moment cannot be turing complete because of that < 1230782555 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1230782558 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the same is true of any program period, since no computer has infinite memory < 1230782566 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're an idiot < 1230782569 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1230782574 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me? < 1230782582 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about C the language, not an implementation thereof < 1230782582 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im answering your question, asshole < 1230782585 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know that < 1230782588 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now shut up and listen < 1230782621 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the argumentation for saying that C as a language isn't turing complete comes from the fact that sizeof(int*) is defined at compile time for the intended machine its supposed to run on < 1230782656 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU PLASTIC < 1230782656 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C isn't necessarily compiled < 1230782659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAAAAAMN YOOOOOOU < 1230782678 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :furthermore, since sizeof(int*) can never be infinite, you never can address infinite memory < 1230782697 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the argument goes, C cannot be TC < 1230782702 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230782712 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what they say. not me. < 1230782720 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is turing complete without pointers < 1230782731 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen, im just telling you what they say :) < 1230782742 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, C minus pointers is TC. < 1230782747 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i know what they say < 1230782751 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the argument is irrelevant anyway since all programming languages are like that in some regard < 1230782755 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't they say that C isn't turing-complete < 1230782765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C with pointers is not. Just choosing not to use pointers is not sufficient, since by the definition of C everything is addressable, even if you don't use the address. < 1230782796 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :furthermore, any program imaginable can infact be run so C-as-a-whole (INCLUDING compile-time definition of sizeof(int*)) is turing complete < 1230782922 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if your machine doesnt have enough memory you do what everyone does, add more, then try again. < 1230782934 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i think i misspoke, i think sizeof(int*) is run-time defined not compile time) < 1230782956 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a machine can't be turing complete < 1230782961 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no real machine can, no. < 1230782963 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already know that < 1230782969 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know what i mean < 1230783000 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language is TC if you talk about C as a whole, not just C-as-it-is-wrought-with-some-particular-sizeof(int*) < 1230783742 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230784844 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err... How one would store the potentially unbounded amount of data in C without using pointers (assuming elements don't have to have valid addresses)? < 1230784958 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The call stack could store unbounded amount of data, but its just one LIFO stack, which is not sufficent for TC. < 1230785892 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230787484 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it is, ilari. functional programming languages do it perfectly well. < 1230787499 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted you dont use just a stack. you do all sorts of substitution stuff as well in that model < 1230787523 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats not the same as just stack machine < 1230787524 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far from it. < 1230788697 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step one of my wearable computer is done :) < 1230790161 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1230790696 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've converted a Myvu Crystal into a compact one-eye version for mounting onto glasses. < 1230791340 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1230791732 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230791735 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30230927&l=7b22a&id=1055580469 < 1230791887 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230791888 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230792592 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230792595 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230792756 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230792775 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230793488 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230793490 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230793649 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230793654 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230793659 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230794543 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230794569 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230794995 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1230794996 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1230795623 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230795649 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230795667 0 :SpaceManPlusPlus!n=spaceman@S01060015e96842d7.vs.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230795723 0 :SpaceManPlusPlus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1230796700 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230796799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1230796800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1230809201 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230809834 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230811436 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1230811457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the new year counter still going? < 1230813589 0 :DonQuijote!n=echo@235.Red-217-127-207.staticIP.rima-tde.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230813595 0 :DonQuijote!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1230813613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1230813680 0 :DonQuijote!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230813690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230814236 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230814937 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230814937 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1230814949 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230815078 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230816007 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1230816029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's STILL on South Georgia? how disappointing < 1230816042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't think there are any countries at -13 < 1230816052 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we've reached the end of our new year updater < 1230816071 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/reached/crashed/ < 1230816092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed < 1230816112 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's having a sort of Y2K bug < 1230816115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with hours rather than years < 1230816116 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY NEW YEAR EARTH < 1230816364 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-252-201.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1230819239 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1230819988 0 :flexo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. my head.. < 1230820239 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820300 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820306 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820312 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820318 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820324 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820330 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820336 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820348 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820354 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820360 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820366 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820372 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820378 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230820542 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230820566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was some _nasty_ bouncerfuckage < 1230820574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was some _nasty_ bouncerfuckage < 1230820581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you're repeating yourself < 1230820592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the logs didn't show me as saying that yet < 1230820594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're lagged < 1230820595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I tried again < 1230820596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's deliberate or more bouncer weirdness < 1230820599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, and ok < 1230820605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy mailman lists reminder day < 1230820622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the Australian reminder day /after/ the European and American ones today? < 1230820637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because australia went forward in time or sth < 1230820641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1230820734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30230927&l=7b22a&id=1055580469 < 1230820737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ lol < 1230820739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from GregorR) < 1230820747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like 2000 as seen from 1970 < 1230821039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/esoteric/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY BIRTHDAY EARTH < 1230821050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :LOGS: HTTP://TUNES.ORG/~NEF/ESOTERIC/ | WE SURVIVED THE LEAP SECOND AND ALL WE GOT WAS ... WAIT, WHERE IS MY T-SHIRT? | HAPPY BIRTHDAY EARTH < 1230821265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because the world was "born" on New Years day :P < 1230821275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1230821276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it was. < 1230821296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: there's about a 1 in 365.2422 chance... < 1230821304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: If you prefer, I could change it to "HAPPY BIRTHDAY CALENDAR". < 1230821355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what makes you think the calendar was started on january 1? < 1230821359 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No. No there is not. As the formation of a planet takes substantially longer than a day, and there's no agreement on what exact moment the planet is considered to be a planet rather than a ball of primordial ooze. < 1230821361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as new year used to be march 1 < 1230821365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't < 1230821369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1230821369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230821380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: hmm... you could take the median opinion, or something < 1230821395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think the exact moment is the moment it pulls itself into an approximate sphere under its own gravity < 1230821417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a mathematical fact whether an object is doing that or not < 1230821471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not mathematical fact, surely < 1230821477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scientific, sure < 1230821485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you have accurate enough measurements of the location of all the relevant rocks < 1230821495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and their velocities and weights < 1230821498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tru. < 1230821509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can determine via simulation if they're pulling themselves into a sphere under their own gravity or not < 1230821593 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230821601 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230821633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to build a full universe simulator. (For a quantum Infinity Machine, naturally.) < 1230821746 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230821746 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230821756 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230822091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not a multiverse simulator? < 1230822097 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need one to simulate quantum stuff < 1230822097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Just run multiple instances. < 1230822110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, isn't that only with many worlds? < 1230822126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many Worlds would be fun though. I'd tune into the world where everything was batshit insane. < 1230822484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I never thought I'd come up with an actual use for markov chains. < 1230822509 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230822511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: LZMA? < 1230822519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LZMA compresses with markov chains? < 1230822525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1230822527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :among other things < 1230822528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1230822532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't exactly use markov chains < 1230822537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not random ones, anyway < 1230822559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think recording the 'random' numbers needed to generate the actual text is shorter than recording the text itself < 1230822564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's how the trick works < 1230822570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1230822581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, that's not it < 1230822593 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc it's not that simple < 1230822689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I will wait for someone to ask me what < 1230822719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard lzma was very good < 1230822729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my tests shows it is slightly better than bzip2 < 1230822739 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than slightly better IME < 1230822740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your average tar file at least < 1230822762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, may depend on size I guess, for example gzip is better than bzip2 at really small files < 1230822772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess bzip2 has more header overhead < 1230822777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1230822781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lzma compresses really slowly but decompresses quickly < 1230822785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1230822800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, isn't it what 7zip use too? < 1230822807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230822809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1230822813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reference lzma impl is from 7zip iirc < 1230822831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230822840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing about windows archivers (not 7zip): < 1230822842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 7zip compresses very well, even for zip and such too < 1230822846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all give you like a 1000 day trial < 1230822847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1230822850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET YOU KEEP USING IT < 1230822865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advpng uses 7zip's deflate compression implementation to shrink pngs by quite a bt < 1230822866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit* < 1230822867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just make you wait $days_product_has_been_used settings before de-graying "Continue" < 1230822874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel < 1230822875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1230822875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less < 1230822881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like 5 seconds per year. < 1230822896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1230822924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I never used those windows compression programs < 1230822927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from 7zip < 1230822932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 7zip has been ported to *nix too < 1230822933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh what? < 1230822935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's because they can't compete against each other if they try to charge < 1230822941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, exactly < 1230822943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh yes windows xp has zip built in < 1230822943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's ridiculous < 1230822948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, it's awful. < 1230822953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed < 1230822977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : p7zip is the Unix port of 7-Zip, a file archiver that archives with < 1230822978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : very high compression ratios. < 1230822982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I just use tar.bz2 since it support for opening it is way more common than tar.lzma < 1230822990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they just ported the algo, not the interface < 1230822996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have it installed if I need to use it < 1230823000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And much less common than tar.gz & .zip < 1230823003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230823010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on your audience < 1230823011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's best to offer in multiple formats < 1230823018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar.gz is more common yes < 1230823018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally ones that people haven't heard of but can open anyway < 1230823022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I download code in tar.bz2, offer it in tar.gz, and offer other things in .zip < 1230823044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I see no reason to use zip < 1230823058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes because you live in a world where everyone uses linux. < 1230823064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or *bssd < 1230823067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bsd < 1230823073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I know OS X can open them < 1230823076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's not like the average Windows user can't open a .gz nowadays < 1230823080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it would help if your world was less of a fantasy < 1230823083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can winzip do it? < 1230823089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on most of the random cybercafe Windows computers I find, double-clicking a .gz works < 1230823096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regularly encounter people asking what a .rar is, and afaik only 7zip/winrar are the common archivers that can do .gz on windows < 1230823102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all sorts of random programs open them, I think winzip might be one < 1230823106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, .rar is a pain < 1230823109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed < 1230823117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is useful for certain cases < 1230823124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, IIRC winzip decompresses .tar.gz into .tar < 1230823127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can also open .tar < 1230823128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to its built-in split-archive-in-multiple-parts and verification stuff < 1230823130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to run two nested instances < 1230823136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? compression ratio is less than 7zip iirc < 1230823144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compression ratio isn't always everything < 1230823146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, IE saves .tar.gz files as .tar.tar because it confuses the file associations < 1230823163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, nice one < 1230823168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1230823170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.tgz < 1230823174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and .tbz2 < 1230823178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had great fun after downloading CLC-INTERCAL < 1230823184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? < 1230823186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the uncompressed files ended .tar < 1230823187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses compress? < 1230823192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1230823195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, huh what? < 1230823195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compressed files ended .tar < 1230823199 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the uncompressed files ended .gz < 1230823203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1230823205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason I fail to figure out < 1230823211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that the separation of tar and gzip/bzip2/etc is a problem < 1230823216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, err the reason: it's intercal < 1230823226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the compression format knows more about the structure of the directory tree, surely it could do a better job? < 1230823235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1230823256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, on the other hand separating them follows the unix philosophy < 1230823265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it was browser+decompresser borkage < 1230823270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unix philosophy isn't exactly ideal in all cases. < 1230823270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1230823275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1230823284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought CLC had done it deliberately, but it turned out he hadn't < 1230823287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I highly doubt anyone here uses a machine that actually subscribes to it < 1230823299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is that the usual result of .tar.gz? < 1230823300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with a note that he might have done it if he thought of it < 1230823300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. find(1) < 1230823302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows < 1230823305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a kitchen sink program if I ever saw one < 1230823310 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't think so, it depends a lot on what's in the registry < 1230823317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which rather depends on the order in which you installed things < 1230823319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$any_desktop_environment_ever < 1230823324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I use find a lot and yes it is too complex < 1230823340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: find is actually a generalised iteration command < 1230823344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to check man page a lot < 1230823352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of like the loop construct in MAGENTA < 1230823353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only does it dump a directory tree, it also filters based on a myriad of things, executes programs, and its command-line syntax is different from just about every other unix command < 1230823365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which IIRC can take while and if and do and for and until and unless and foreach all at the same time < 1230823367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, it even bloody has boolean operations with parenthical grouping!! < 1230823372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: so does test < 1230823379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and it's not unixy either < 1230823399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you call awk unixy? < 1230823401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about sed? < 1230823408 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about bc? < 1230823409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's different, they're metaprograms < 1230823412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're minilanguages < 1230823412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about sh? < 1230823415 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: so is find < 1230823419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is test < 1230823422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but it's an unneeded one < 1230823425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it integrates into sh < 1230823430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err find doesn't < 1230823430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet disobeys sh's general principle < 1230823431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1230823434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes it does < 1230823434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1230823439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're meant to use it in a shell script or from the command line < 1230823443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no it is a separate program, not a builtin < 1230823447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/facepalm < 1230823448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up. < 1230823452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: would you be happier if find were a shell builtin? < 1230823455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1230823502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think he would be happier if find read the parameters from stdin < 1230823503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230823513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1230823527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: would you consider ls -R | grep to be more unixy? < 1230823534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1230823545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I would consider it to be buggy for edge cases and a lot slower < 1230823547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does one thing, does it well, and slots into other programs in a pipe. < 1230823548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the problem is that it runs kind-of slowly on a large directory tree < 1230823555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just consider newlines in filenames < 1230823557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although `ls -R` is a bit suspicious. < 1230823558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it is slow < 1230823563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, of course it's freaking slow < 1230823566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ls -R0, then < 1230823573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix-philosophy-compliant software _is_ slo < 1230823573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is that posix? < 1230823573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w < 1230823576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's not always ideal < 1230823579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it's GNU < 1230823585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, then... < 1230823585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that does not change the fact that find is not UNIXy < 1230823601 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230823604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: do you think it's OK to have non-UNIXy things in UNIX, as an optimisation? < 1230823609 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'find' is not unixy?! < 1230823617 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does the same as a unixy thing would, but faster and more reliably? < 1230823618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also you could do find . -name 'foo' | xargs foo < 1230823631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Plz look up the UNIX philosophy. ais523: Yeah. I don't like how find does it, though. < 1230823644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how do you dislike find? < 1230823650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already listed that. < 1230823662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I think the UNIX philosophy is at least partially to do with not allowing philosophy to get in the way of useful productivity < 1230823663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it isn't unixy? < 1230823672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that's worse is better < 1230823674 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So is test un-unixy? < 1230823678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Yes. < 1230823684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, no < 1230823686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You can do a non-unixy program and still have it look like other unixy programs. < 1230823691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a mini language like sed < 1230823691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what about pcregrep? < 1230823691 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'd love to see your if expressions in sh scripts X_X < 1230823693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I believe he addressed _me_. < 1230823702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I am not advocating for the unix philosophy. < 1230823713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find is useful. I use it. < 1230823713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Just because someone asks you a question, does that mean that other people can't answer/ < 1230823715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not UNIX-y. < 1230823734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: when it's a totally subjective question addressed to a person on one side of an argument, the other side butting in with an answer without reasoning is pretty stupid. < 1230823744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I was hoping someone else would answer < 1230823744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I did reason < 1230823745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230823757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it is a mini language like sed < 1230823757 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Is /lib/ld.so UNIXy? < 1230823759 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-P < 1230823768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mom is UNIXy. < 1230823771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the "do it well part". < 1230823772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh snap. < 1230823777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/well part"/well" part/ < 1230823799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ls: cannot access /lib/ld.so: No such file or directory < 1230823809 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: On Linux it's ld-linux.so < 1230823813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, here it is /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 < 1230823813 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using the classic UNIX name :P < 1230823817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I think the main /practical/ implications of the UNIXy philosophy is to have a breakable pipe < 1230823828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can look at intermediate state anywhere, and tinker < 1230823829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that is yet another one < 1230823833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ls /lib < 1230823833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /lib: No such file or directory < 1230823835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* fix the grammar in that < 1230823838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at me! My system is different too! < 1230823846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Mac OS, or GoboLinux? < 1230823850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Former. < 1230823855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GoboLinux br0ked up. < 1230823862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, GoboLinux probably has a /lib, just it's full of symlinks to where everything actually is < 1230823863 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /AbsurdLibraryDirectoryName < 1230823874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:/] % ls -l .|grep etc < 1230823875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 2006-12-14 12:34 etc -> private/etc < 1230823878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THIS HERESY < 1230823885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1230823898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes OS X has those < 1230823905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1230823909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has those whats. < 1230823911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it has a /lib symlink too < 1230823914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1230823915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1230823921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has /usr/lib, but not /lib. < 1230823921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, /etc symlink at least < 1230823928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck did I just paste? < 1230823931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:31 [ehird:/] % ls -l .|grep etc < 1230823932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:31 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 2006-12-14 12:34 etc -> private/etc < 1230823935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes < 1230823936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1230823944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [ehird:/] % ls -l .|grep etc < 1230823944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 11 2006-12-14 12:34 etc -> private/etc < 1230823944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WHAT IS THIS HERESY < 1230823944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even < 1230823954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I thought you were shocked at your find < 1230823963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I was joking < 1230823964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% which python < 1230823964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python < 1230823968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ more unix sins < 1230823976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/python here < 1230823989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, echo $PATH | wc -c < 1230823993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230824008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :304 but I have a bunch of unrelated crap in it that i used ages ago < 1230824024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: also < 1230824024 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :97 on freebsd, 150 on gentoo < 1230824032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :155 here < 1230824040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes? < 1230824041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:/] % ls -l /usr/local/bin/python < 1230824041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 24 2008-12-15 16:57 /usr/local/bin/python -> /usr/local/bin/python2.6 < 1230824042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:/] % ls -l /usr/local/bin/python2.6 < 1230824044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 63 2008-12-15 16:52 /usr/local/bin/python2.6 -> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/python2.6 < 1230824048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230824056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, tell me, why is the first one not a relative symlink? < 1230824057 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :568, I win < 1230824063 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows) < 1230824066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Dunno. < 1230824066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, err going low was the goal < 1230824072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, he was being sarcastic. < 1230824076 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set my own goals :D < 1230824084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, fine :) < 1230824087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@rutian:~$ echo $PATH < 1230824087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games < 1230824097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/games should be at the start :| < 1230824098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a good way to chear < 1230824101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo $PATH < 1230824101 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheat < 1230824103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin < 1230824105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is odd < 1230824107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the single most important directory on a unix system < 1230824107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ PATH=""; echo $PATH | wc -c < 1230824109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since X11 isn't installed < 1230824112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that freebsd box < 1230824114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what that prints (where the $ is the prompt) < 1230824117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: YOU ONLY CHEAT YOURSELF < 1230824126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: command not found: wc < 1230824130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1230824134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a base 255 number < 1230824140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, although not zsh for me < 1230824141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "sh: command not found" < 1230824143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1230824156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> sum(map(ord,a)) < 1230824156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2415 < 1230824162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be right < 1230824162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230824165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the * 255 < 1230824186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :178431884530883387476741383738549825960794060434521223987627869 < 1230824189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how long my PATH is. < 1230824191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1230824201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ehird interpreted their path as a base 255 number for some reason < 1230824205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230824206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230824208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did ais523's command < 1230824209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that there are 256 possibilities for bytes < 1230824209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got this < 1230824210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: command not found: wc < 1230824213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1230824216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's obviously my path length as a base 256 number < 1230824225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it's actually 196770863739160564595263608359723940742411945884540670408947555 < 1230824231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1230824236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you'd probably better restart that shell < 1230824236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have some way to get your path back to normal < 1230824249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"source .zshrc" would do it. < 1230824250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, . /etc/profile? < 1230824252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I just closed it. < 1230824270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you could just do it in a subshell < 1230824271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: my .zshrc loads my .bash_profile < 1230824274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's where my PATH is. < 1230824277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by doing ( ) around it < 1230824284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why either < 1230824284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PATH=""; echo $PATH | wc -c) < 1230824285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1230824290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the joke was funnier this way < 1230824297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230824324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err it isn't base 256 < 1230824328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is base 128 < 1230824344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zsh: command not found: wc" < 1230824346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a sequence of bytes. < 1230824351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a byte is 0..255 < 1230824359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but notice all are below 127 < 1230824364 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, 879 characters in MSYS. :) < 1230824364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :444 < 1230824369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a base 5 number < 1230824370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suggest they are in fact signed < 1230824374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has no digits above 4. < 1230824383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in fact, all are below 126 < 1230824390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that too then < 1230824391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, balanced base 256? < 1230824396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ridiculous < 1230824401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sounds great < 1230824419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, but how would it work? < 1230824439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the same way as balanced base 3 < 1230824439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, -256..256? < 1230824445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait < 1230824446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, -128..127 < 1230824450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-128..127 yes < 1230824454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, signed char in fact < 1230824456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like any well-behaving 8-bit signed char < 1230824460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2's complement < 1230824464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230824485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, did you guys hear about the zune bug? < 1230824488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what is it for base 4.. quaternary? < 1230824493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all first generation 30gb zunes broke at exactly the same time < 1230824500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, within an hour or so of each other < 1230824509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wtf? < 1230824510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, because the firmware didn't take the possibility of a leap year into account < 1230824513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1230824513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zune-news/38143-cause-zune-30-leapyear-problem-isolated.html < 1230824515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1230824516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code that caused the problem < 1230824517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious < 1230824523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, will they unbrick them? < 1230824533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are they not bricked? < 1230824533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: just reset the clock < 1230824546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't go into that code path < 1230824551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: apparently you can get them working again by draining the battery, then turning them on some time that isn't in 2008 < 1230824562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and update the firmware? < 1230824562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which amounts to resetting the clock. < 1230824566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes < 1230824568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they haven't released a fix yet < 1230824572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they're waiting until tuesday :-P < 1230824575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: actually, that is the fix they released < 1230824580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230824585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have 4 years to fix it < 1230824590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although wait that'll be 2012 < 1230824594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll be dead by the time it matters. < 1230824597 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shi- < 1230824601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230824602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1230824602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zunes < 1230824604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :locking up < 1230824606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :destroys the universe < 1230824610 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1230824613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they power the dyson sphere we're in < 1230824615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it like explodes < 1230824617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the universe ends < 1230824618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: or maybe the universe doesn't end in 2012? < 1230824622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: SHUT UP < 1230824627 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1230824630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230824640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why on earth < 1230824642 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger < 1230824642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a loop < 1230824646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1230824646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC Discordianism says it'll end in 9661, they thought it was 1996 but they were reading it upside-down < 1230824647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: MUSHROOM MUSHROOM < 1230824648 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR GregorR < 1230824654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some simple math would be way faster < 1230824660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's embedded software. < 1230824663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what the fuck it's for. < 1230824669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it lacks integer division? < 1230824677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it ends up as more efficient than arithmetic < 1230824680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1230824684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230824705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although "year += 1"? please, everyone knows "++year" is faster < 1230824731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: year += 1 is equivalent to ++year < 1230824734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, only if the compiler really really sucked at optimising < 1230824736 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you have to do asm("inc year") if you want the real power! < 1230824738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus fucking christ < 1230824739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' < 1230824741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you all DENSE < 1230824742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in theory, both are faster than year++ without optimisation < 1230824744 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1230824744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means i'm making a goddamn JOKE < 1230824750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was playing along < 1230824752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, everyone optimises it away in practice < 1230824756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, no you weren't < 1230824757 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whacks ehird with a cluebat
< 1230824758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing along wiould be < 1230824761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:45 no, you have to do asm("inc year") if you want the real power! < 1230824761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, every even slightly optimising compiler < 1230824766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: < 1230824767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:45 ehird, only if the compiler really really sucked at optimising < 1230824768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not playing along < 1230824769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : but in theory, both are faster than year++ without optimisation <-- hm? < 1230824789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: year++ has to initialise a temporary register to hold the old value of year, in theory < 1230824796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh, right < 1230824799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice it makes no difference as any sane compiler notices it isn't used < 1230824809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: never, ever make a joke in #esoteric. < 1230824819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why not, I enjoy the resulting discussions < 1230824825 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy people have no sense of humou < 1230824827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a discussion, it's tedious crap that we all know < 1230824827 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1230824836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all know it's optimized to be the same < 1230824839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's a joke < 1230824849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone is confused, it can be taken as read that we get the bloody context < 1230824866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context can still be interesting, though < 1230824873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1230824876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just because you get it, doesn't mean that clog does. Or fungot. < 1230824876 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: man, this fucking sucks. teddy rubskin also has a presentation on wheat that i think about it. < 1230824896 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out whether that's an argument for or against
< 1230824923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fungot never gets anything though. < 1230824924 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: hey, i brought you here today. sonic heroes sucks. teddy rubskin also has a presentation on wheat that i think we're the only people who give two shits about you. do you ever think maybe it was your problem? maybe you just can't handle all the data i'm sending you. < 1230824925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor does clog. < 1230824932 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is fast. < 1230824933 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: i mean, there's a huge grasshopper in here and he's flying all around! somebody get this grasshopper out of here, or is it just me? < 1230824934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that is a lot of data. < 1230824935 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: listen. that ball thing hurts. and that suit? it never comes off. < 1230824937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1230824938 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc lovecraft pa* speeches ss wp < 1230824942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed it was PA < 1230824948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style pa < 1230824948 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: pa (around 1200 transcribed Penny Arcade comics) < 1230824968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sonic heroes sucks." and the apparent large-amounts-of-verbatim-text tipped me off < 1230824981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, profanity < 1230824982 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style discworld < 1230824983 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: discworld (a subset of Terry Pratchett's Discworld books) < 1230824986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the master of fungot < 1230824986 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: " oook?" said nanny, running along behind. he had a fnord look. < 1230824988 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai < 1230824989 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: a flicker made her turn her head. the world isn't always as people see it." vimes hesitated. " i never said he was always the first to bustle up to vimes was mr boggis of the thieves' guild this morning?" < 1230825005 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1230825005 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1230825014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hello < 1230825015 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-huuuhhh. < 1230825016 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a popular origin cannot therefore be the characteristical distinction of a popular representative. this belongs equally to all parts of legislature the most odious and imbecile misgovernment. but, if i could say one word out of my wits. i don't allow any ghosts to bite me, and i do not remember that in speaking to you with a text, and i bless god for my safe fnord i know of no set of men living. these he does not unde < 1230825026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1230825026 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc lovecraft pa speeches* ss wp < 1230825032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ic < 1230825033 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ic (INTERCAL manual) < 1230825039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one rocks < 1230825039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE NOTE FUNGOT < 1230825039 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: o hai < 1230825040 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: e017 do you expect the logical and orthogonal behaviour?) < 1230825044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE NOTE fungot < 1230825044 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the first intercal compiler apart from constant folding optimization). whitespace is ignored nearly everywhere; the only potential problems may be missing the shell `bash' which can be considered to be abstained from and therefore problems may be able to concatenate together your input is being linked to the optimizer can't guarantee at compile time in some ways than some other languages. < 1230825053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDD < 1230825058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: plz use this as the c-intercal manual < 1230825070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I could just run it through M-x dissociated-press < 1230825074 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might garble the formatting < 1230825077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is better < 1230825081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I like the manual to actually be useful < 1230825081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wtf is M-x dissociated-press < 1230825085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230825085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what fungot does < 1230825086 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there are more limited.) he also invented in 1972, but you use, you can uninstall it by using an appropriate logic operation on them; and sets it to unweave from all other threads that is, 16- or 32-bit). < 1230825089 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ff7 < 1230825089 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ff7 (Full script of the game Final Fantasy VII) < 1230825090 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I've got the name right < 1230825090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1230825094 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wuh < 1230825094 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: spying, murder... you just might be pretty exciting. i almost fell over.... < 1230825095 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hello < 1230825096 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: please help me! the power of science. < 1230825096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually ais523 dissociated-press is letter based < 1230825101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1230825102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I think it has the option < 1230825103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two were great < 1230825110 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1230825111 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7* fisher ic irc lovecraft pa speeches ss wp < 1230825117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1230825117 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1230825121 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hi < 1230825121 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's an example < 1230825128 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ohhhh kay :P < 1230825131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is? < 1230825131 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: name ' n' and skipping it... not sure i have a problem with < 1230825137 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: madness! < 1230825137 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: it hurts." minutes ago! :p) < 1230825143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1230825143 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1230825144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, really? < 1230825144 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: each player has not made before the start of the voting period. < 1230825145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WHEREAS < 1230825146 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that the parties) a successful revolt has been a player ceases to be < 1230825151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ha, Revolution < 1230825151 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the recordkeepor of a currency, and the < 1230825154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: WHICH ONE < 1230825154 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the assessor is responsible for communicating the group's vizier. < 1230825155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah that one isn't good < 1230825159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1230825159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ss? < 1230825161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1230825161 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1230825161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:52 ehird: the assessor is responsible for communicating the group's vizier. < 1230825162 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: par. good, my lord, and master < 1230825163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's golden < 1230825164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230825166 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1230825167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello fungot < 1230825167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1230825167 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: immortal gods, i am no fighter: i am < 1230825167 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1230825172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1230825173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: aaaaaa < 1230825173 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ( +k) when a player is electee to that office during that month, every player's lobbying strength of < 1230825177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of. < 1230825177 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: b) if this rule defers to all active sentences. the < 1230825180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the < 1230825181 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the speaker publicly announces that e < 1230825183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: e... < 1230825184 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 7) a list of all players < 1230825187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: MAKE UP YOUR MIND < 1230825190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's treating \n as \n < 1230825193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the word wrapping messes it up < 1230825204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1230825204 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc lovecraft pa speeches ss wp < 1230825211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1230825211 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1230825219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: CONSENSUS < 1230825221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230825225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else say hi to fungot < 1230825237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hellp < 1230825238 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the explanation of the elijah story doesn't hold up, but to index other articles sorted, perhaps, for those pictures available, perhaps this one straight from the souls of black folk. but, i think < 1230825243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello* < 1230825247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you think what < 1230825247 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you have any questions please ask them at the wikipedia:media copyright questionsmedia copyright questions page. thank you.!-- template:missing rationale2 < 1230825254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sentient templates! < 1230825256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: really? < 1230825256 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the plan is to move forward. thanks user:naadapriyanaadapriya ( user talk:naadapriyatalk) 22:24, 19 may 2005 ( utc) < 1230825264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what plan ey? < 1230825265 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and, dab, words like pop-culture should not be present because other neighbourhoods are not add the article about most existentialists being atheistic seems to be a calming grounding influence, a bit of old-fashioned stunt casting, spiner downplays the timing. < 1230825298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot doesn't really seem to strip MediaWiki markup well < 1230825298 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apparently she wasn't the first person to discover something is in some kind new to me, deserve to be listed in wikipedia. < 1230825445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230826308 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230828680 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@062016182032.customer.alfanett.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1230830708 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230831690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw < 1230831694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy mailman day < 1230831706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just got a few of them from various freebsd lists
< 1230831919 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230831920 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230831927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I beat you to it. < 1230831928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If this design sounds familiar it’s probably because it’s exactly like Lucene. " < 1230831931 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230831974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, didn't see you saying it < 1230831979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did you do that < 1230831990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit after I came in here first < 1230832056 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230832063 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230832542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm you were disconnected today? < 1230832554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bouncer thought it was in #esoteric, it wasn't. < 1230832559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1230832569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/09.01.01 < 1230832572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehird (n=ehird@eso-std.org) has left #esoteric ("Furthermore,") < 1230832572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehird (n=ehird@eso-std.org) has joined #esoteric < 1230832572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehird (n=ehird@eso-std.org) has left #esoteric ("Furthermore,") < 1230832572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehird (n=ehird@eso-std.org) has joined #esoteric < 1230832572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : that was some _nasty_ bouncerfuckage < 1230832575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1230832727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : especially as new year used to be march 1 it wasn't duh :P <-- if it had been me you would have said something about my lack of humor < 1230832745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: your lack of humour is a running joke. < 1230832762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes right, except only for you < 1230832762 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230832768 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230832772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am hilarious < 1230832789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you aren't < 1230832802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monty Python is a good example of "sometimes hilarious" < 1230832853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm very hilarious < 1230832894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, oh http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30230927&l=7b22a&id=1055580469, wtf is the thing on the side of the glasses? < 1230832927 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230832932 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230832933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe you know? You linked it < 1230832944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: those glasses are a SCREEN < 1230832949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230832952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a DISPLAY < 1230832953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDD < 1230832953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, I heard of them < 1230832958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seen them though < 1230832965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such glasses with built in displays < 1230832969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1230832974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you use it for? map? < 1230833002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like HACKING INTERFACE < 1230833005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of CYBERWEB < 1230833019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't be silly, this isn't some low budget movie < 1230833026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it < 1230833042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, but it doesn't mean Holy Wood is right < 1230833056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were it would emit light < 1230833059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are always right < 1230833060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they do < 1230833062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just invisible light < 1230833173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1230833481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be boring and write another markov chain. i think I know enough now to get it to handle punctuation correctly. < 1230833493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1230833501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to handle nested punctuation though. < 1230833503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how does lzma use it btw? < 1230833508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, how can I make sure parentheses are always balanced? < 1230833511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without just adding them to the end. < 1230833515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could recurse or something. < 1230833552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they aren't always balanced on irc normally < 1230833586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what, i always balance my parens :P < 1230833591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well aprt from :) < 1230833594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but :) is a seperate token < 1230833632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and variants like ;) and such < 1230833636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1230833652 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230833658 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230833662 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230833673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still recursion sounds like it could work as long as you somehow limit the depth < 1230833690 0 :metazilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230833691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nasty if it got stuck < 1230833691 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230833700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in deep recursion < 1230833702 0 :metazilla!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :moozilla < 1230833711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, "in the deep lands of recursion"? < 1230833721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: problem is, when you reach EOF to stop recursing, that's end of messag < 1230833722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1230833723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thriller movie < 1230833726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it won't work parenthically < 1230833741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, who are you? I am cool (a word for being awesome. Anyway, I must go now. Bye.) Actually wait, I'm not going. < 1230833744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you mean you get lots of end of sentences then? < 1230833747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that's not the best usage of parentheses < 1230833750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1230833754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you just wait until ), that rarely happens < 1230833763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it could get too long < 1230833765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a close parenthesis rarely follows another word compared to, you know, other words < 1230833773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could use a weighted markov chain like bayes does < 1230833778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex coded it I don't know how it works < 1230833782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh I like that < 1230833786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it "directs" it to a certain token) < 1230833788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reverse bayesian filter? < 1230833794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1230833796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be used to *GENERATE* spam < 1230833797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bayes is a nomic-playing bot < 1230833801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230833802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230833806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called so because it votes using a bayesian spam filter < 1230833809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, unfortunately it takes like < 1230833811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230833817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n!)^2 or something storage space < 1230833819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the directed stuff :-P < 1230833823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1230833827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not that bad < 1230833829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's biggg < 1230833879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well what is the value of n < 1230833902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. < 1230833904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few MB? GB? < 1230833907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I know is it's way bigger than the actual chain < 1230833937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1230834011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm it would be cool if you could make your mail server somehow return "no such user" to spammers *after* you received it.. < 1230834014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230834021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work I guess < 1230834028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most mail servers silently accept bad addresses :\ < 1230834030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least some < 1230834031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reject with no such user < 1230834032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1230834041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once made a plan for an elaborate spam-fighting system < 1230834046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, reject with no such user and they will think the email is invalid < 1230834048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was too lazy to writ eit < 1230834048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? details? < 1230834053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember it? < 1230834057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1230834063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know those honeypot scripts < 1230834066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230834067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that give a bunch of fake emails < 1230834067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run one < 1230834068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a link for more < 1230834073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd that, but improved by loads < 1230834079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on domain foobar.com < 1230834079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be < 1230834088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsfjeii@honeypot.foobar.com < 1230834090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1230834096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever a spambot sent mail to one of those < 1230834107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd ban them from the mail server < 1230834108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wouldn't contain honeypot hopefully < 1230834110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mark them as spam < 1230834116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that address < 1230834117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1230834123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that is how honeypots work < 1230834126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1230834126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not < 1230834136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honeypot cgi scripts generally just give fake addresses < 1230834138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to pollute their database < 1230834151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one waits for them to actually spam, and then permanently marks them as a spammer < 1230834153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh I have mine set up to give emails to a special blackhole server < 1230834157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that auto blacklists < 1230834160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the real server < 1230834162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1230834166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sec < 1230834182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I placed it in the footer on the supertux website iirc < 1230834206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that my real solution for such things is to let google figure it out for me. :P < 1230834221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://supertux.lethargik.org/ I don't see it < 1230834227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no on the wiki < 1230834253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, old supertux is so cheesy < 1230834254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1230834266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1230834267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://supertux.lethargik.org/development/information.php < 1230834269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see it yo < 1230834286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, check the source < 1230834290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that doesn't work, that license thing < 1230834291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans don't see it < 1230834302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, see the source < 1230834305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230834307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean the license notice < 1230834316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that works, the batshit insane lady who sued archive.org for copying her web pages when her page footer forbid it in english is RIGHT < 1230834319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... she's not < 1230834340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, needs moar emails < 1230834347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to give a higher chance of being spammed < 1230834362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway the emails in it are valid, there is a global project for this < 1230834379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :project honeypot < 1230834391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure project honeypot is different < 1230834392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it basically does what you suggested < 1230834406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.spampoison.com/ t his is the most common anti-spam thing i've seen < 1230834566 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230834682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1230834697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: great now you've got me playing supertux < 1230834703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, haha < 1230834711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because I don't have super mario bros to hand though :P < 1230834719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230834731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am awful at supertux < 1230834734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't beat level 5 :|||||| < 1230834745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? 0.1.3 or 0.3.1? < 1230834750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.3 < 1230834754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230834758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more balanced < 1230834761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1230834765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can beat that level :P < 1230834776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh the older version is better? < 1230834795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, we adopted an odd/even versioning scheme < 1230834799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 0.1 < 1230834806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that is why there is no 0.2 < 1230834815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but 0.1.3 is better? < 1230834831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, currently it is more balanced yes < 1230834842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.3.1 has lots of cool new features, but some are a bit buggy < 1230834855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there is not enough fuel in my body to describe my hatred of odd/even versioning systems. < 1230834858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the game isn't always well balanced when it comes to speed and jumping force and such < 1230834866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not my choice < 1230834869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230834893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "the somewhat smaller bath"? < 1230834901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1230834907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the level name < 1230834915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think so < 1230834920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some odd reason I don't see the numbers here < 1230834954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the frosted fields < 1230834979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is level 6.. < 1230834983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230834983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1230835013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is playing it now
< 1230835021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a while ago I played 0.1.x < 1230835131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, a bug < 1230835136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1230835167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1230835169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was standing on air < 1230835172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1230835181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, could be invisible secret block < 1230835185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230835187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some secret area < 1230835190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1230835192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1230835201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there *are* a few such < 1230835216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just screenshot and I can tell you if that was the case < 1230835262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1230835263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 1: http://xs435.xs.to/xs435/09014/picture1775.png < 1230835266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1230835268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work < 1230835268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1230835271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking sdl < 1230835276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no clue about that < 1230835283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1230835284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 1 < 1230835284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshots work for me here on supertux < 1230835289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bunch of block < 1230835289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1230835291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooden < 1230835292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with coins in them < 1230835296 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1230835300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third from the right box, I had destroyed < 1230835303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I could walk over it < 1230835307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I dropped down a tiny bit but stayed there < 1230835309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopped when I jump < 1230835313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Collision box thing I think < 1230835330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230835332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 1? < 1230835341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230835347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1230835353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have a block on either side < 1230835356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeo < 1230835357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1230835362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was a 1-width < 1230835363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230835373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, known 0.1.3 bug, that one is fixed in 0.3.x < 1230835377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1230835383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with support for slope added < 1230835387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slopes* < 1230835394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot more < 1230835418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a debug mode that unlocks all the levels? :D < 1230835437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a debug mode with cheat keys < 1230835444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a side effect it draws collrects < 1230835446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for everything < 1230835459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which looks pretty ugly < 1230835462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew < 1230835468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 0.3.x have a console however < 1230835490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it has a scripting language built in for cut scenes and switches in levels and such < 1230835495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is used for console too < 1230835505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called squirrel < 1230835512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lua but less known and fewer features < 1230835518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first rule of scripting languages: write your game in an existing one with eval and use that :P < 1230835520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again not my choice < 1230835536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wtf you can do small jumps if you don't hold space down < 1230835536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WH < 1230835537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh, it is using an existing scripting language < 1230835538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1230835546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? what do you mean < 1230835556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hold space down for a millisecond more you go high < 1230835558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise you just hop tiny bit < 1230835593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that makes sense, if you had a joystick it would be related to the axis < 1230835597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1230835612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, joystick is 0.3.x only? < 1230835613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230835624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway it is a feature and useful < 1230835645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to take a small jump, like cave and low ceiling < 1230835660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit your head then it will be harder to make a long jump < 1230835766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries his new play style: hold down control and jump everywhere and never hit any enemies
< 1230835773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do, only hit them without trying to < 1230835788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, less score then < 1230835789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1230835790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230835794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, get the egg < 1230835800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fireflower < 1230835810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lot easier then < 1230835813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh :D < 1230835825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the egg looks like a snowball though < 1230835854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230836087 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-54.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1230836411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also project honeypot is like that: http://www.projecthoneypot.org/httpbl_api < 1230836423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only issue is dynamic ips < 1230836515 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230836526 0 :Asztal!n=moo@chunkybacon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230836880 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Presently the display doesn't display anything, I don't have the computer :P < 1230836886 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But it will be a general-purpose computer. < 1230836896 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A GPS-powered map would be one excellent use for it. < 1230836902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yes indeed < 1230836906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about traffic info? < 1230836907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or news? < 1230836914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a computer. < 1230836921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yes but with an antenna < 1230836921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer I'm hooking it to has wifi and bluetooth < 1230836928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1230836938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, how large is the computer? < 1230836944 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://openpandora.org/ < 1230836954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh quite small < 1230836959 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the idea :) < 1230836965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yeah of course < 1230836977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whole setup should cost me ~$700 < 1230836980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, but yes gps + map would rock < 1230836987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something to calculate best route < 1230837022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walking gps < 1230837023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1230837025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, a pitty you won't be able to overlay the directions directly on the perspective < 1230837036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome, walking gps with overlayed directions < 1230837039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like arrow showing what door to actually enter < 1230837043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd never have to ask for directions! < 1230837068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed, and not just directions on a map like in a car navigator, but directions pointing to the actual features in the real view < 1230837082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be impossible though < 1230837087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knowwww < 1230837090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why impossible tho < 1230837092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its possible < 1230837094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jus tvery hard < 1230837108 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would definitely be possible, but probably not with this setup. < 1230837109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction: virtually impossible < 1230837130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you would need to identify the features of the view, like street corners, and so on < 1230837148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figure out current exact orientation of the head < 1230837157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not impossible. that's hard, but robots DO exist you know < 1230837161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230837161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with, you know, sensors. < 1230837163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that process image data. < 1230837167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1230837171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the future, yes, it'd/it'll be possible < 1230837176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not that unfeasable :) < 1230837181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infeasible < 1230837191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is infeasible for GregorR with his current setup < 1230837233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, should also have restaurant advice, oh and hat shop locations < 1230837315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230837317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an actual joke! < 1230837327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should update him with choosemyhat.com results in REAL TIME < 1230837494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nice < 1230837530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, do people often comment on your hats when they meet you < 1230837538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1230837905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I listened to some of your music pieces btw, quite good < 1230837950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1230837956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard the Kill Yourself song and that's about it XD < 1230837972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/music.php < 1230838008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I believe those 3 for a game would fit quite well into a fantasy game, say wesnoth or something like that < 1230838012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which game was it for? < 1230838049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I like his "Opus 8" < 1230838074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't listened to 9 yet, 6 or below < 1230838082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is currently listening to 7
< 1230838114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it :) < 1230838149 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reappears
< 1230838166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230838182 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People often comment on my hats, yes. < 1230838197 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comments are very varied, and different hats get different amounts of comments, often not in line with what you might think. < 1230838206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, right < 1230838208 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the red fez gets tons of comments, but the green fez gets virtually none. < 1230838219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, now that I hadn't expected < 1230838224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why none for the green? < 1230838227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is too odd? < 1230838235 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess, Idonno, I'm not psychic :) < 1230838240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230838270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At a certain point of strangeness people just stop talking at me at all ... when it gets really cold outside I wear a cape, and at that point people just don't look at me unless they know me :P < 1230838281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1230838298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, the recording of op 7 sounds a bit low quality, not sure how to define it < 1230838304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what about the game question < 1230838311 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That recording is really old, yeah, it sucks :( < 1230838316 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the game was Battle for Wesnoth < 1230838319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1230838322 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a campaign which I've since abandoned :P < 1230838336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I like wesnoth, and I like the game music for it < 1230838347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, anyway I like 7, but not that recording of it < 1230838348 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do I, I just wanted unique music for my campaign *shrugs* < 1230838382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, and your game music for it is quite good, is it recorded real life or with really high quality soundfont? < 1230838407 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soundfont < 1230838416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what one if I may ask? :) < 1230838449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I would really wish a sound font with a good piano, too few free ones available though :/ < 1230838459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I had* < 1230838460 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'twasn't a free one X-P < 1230838464 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Came with my keyboard. < 1230838465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh! < 1230838485 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recorded it on my keyboard, I didn't write it as a MIDI, I just played it. < 1230838555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, one thing about your opus 9, you seem to change style a bit in it to more bass chords (not sure if that is the right English terminology... I'm not a native speaker as you know). < 1230838571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it may be the recording, or it is a bit heavy on the bass chords < 1230838592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but overall I like it very much < 1230838625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, can we here you play "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" at some point? :D < 1230838630 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opus 9 was a tune that was stuck in my head ... I didn't write it in the same way as I write most of my pieces, as the entire tune from beginning to end had just evolved as this weird tune I whistled. < 1230838737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, well I don't have good soundfont < 1230838755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so opus 9, well maybe you should upload an ogg of it with a good soundfont? < 1230838790 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if you can provide a soundfont better than the one I already used :P < 1230838796 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1230838810 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to provide a link to the ogg D-8 < 1230838810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1230838810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you misread what I said I bet < 1230838815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yes < 1230838819 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There actually is a .ogg version already, made with freepats < 1230838866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, one things that confuse me about your music is that you suddenly change tempo and style in the middle at some point where I wouldn't have expected it < 1230838890 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes I do :P < 1230838941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I'm more used to classical music that doesn't do that. Anyway what about you playing (on a real piano preferably :) "Eine kleine Nachtmusik"? < 1230838946 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to write in a stream-of-thought style ... I rarely repeat anything more than twice, I reuse themes but only in totally different contexts, and as a result it takes me a very long time to write anything. < 1230838962 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that, but I don't have a real piano :P < 1230838975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love music that changes style and tempo unexpectedly for no reason < 1230838993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ah, what about something by Liszt then? :P < 1230839000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1230839019 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Eine kleine Nachtmusik is acceptable only on a real piano, but Liszt can be played on whatever shitty keyboard I can dredge up? :P < 1230839034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, both both are acceptable on keyboard < 1230839041 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you might be interested, http://codu.org/music/GRegor-op10-beta2.ogg < 1230839042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think making good recordings would be quite fun < 1230839048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beta :D < 1230839052 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not my final recording of that (probably), not "released" per se < 1230839110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, anyway Liszt would be extremely hard... < 1230839153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say "La Campanella" (originally for violin, but at least Liszt made a piano version, no idea if it differs much) < 1230839187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I like your op10 < 1230839198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far much less random changes in style < 1230839241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with those < 1230839248 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1230839251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :music should be surprising :D < 1230839252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is a matter of taste < 1230839264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes highly subjective < 1230839265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first section is 7/8, then 6/8, then 7/8, don't those count for anything? :P < 1230839297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, hm when did the first change happen < 1230839312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might not have reached it yet < 1230839319 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WAS SO SUBTLE YOU DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT < 1230839320 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1230839334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I'm around 2 minutes and 30 seconds into it < 1230839353 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's at around 1:15, you're well into the 6/8 section < 1230839358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230839364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I didn't notice it < 1230839378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, or it seemed natural maybe < 1230839400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, some differences I noted but they seemed to fit in there very well :) < 1230839427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, plan to become a composer? < 1230839445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1230839448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a change < 1230839450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't fit < 1230839470 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's why I'm at graduate school for CS, it fits right into my music plans :P < 1230839485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so you don't plan that then < 1230839509 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just a hobby. < 1230839534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it was the end somehow, ok then that worked < 1230839541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around 06:something < 1230839564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yes I like that op 10 :) < 1230839566 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the 6/8-to-7/8 change is just a BAM < 1230839567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much so < 1230839590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, you play the piano very well < 1230839649 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well thank you. < 1230839659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm far better at CS, it's just a less visible skill :P < 1230839676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1230839733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, just wondering, would you be able to perform something like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Liszt-La_Campanella-Greiss.ogg < 1230839775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if yes you should maybe consider playing piano instead of cs ;P < 1230839784 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The usual answer is "with enough practice" :P < 1230839794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, and that would be "a lot"? < 1230839803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is #esoteric. < 1230839808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes? < 1230839814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suggesting someone do music instead of CS is unlikely to be fruitful. < 1230839822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah good point < 1230839823 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard so far, probably not /so/ much of a lot. < 1230839832 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One sec, I'll get a recording of the most complicated thing I've played. < 1230839845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230839957 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4iaugs_6uQ (This is not me, and no, I haven't played this as /well/ as this guy, I've just played it :P ) < 1230840028 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By the way, it only gets difficult after a couple minutes) < 1230840066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing it now < 1230840076 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love nocturnes, by the way :P < 1230840091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm.... < 1230840118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" should fit you well < 1230840119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230840365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note the small "related videos" links on the right, in particular the ones where the guy is wearing an unfortunate choice of clothing colors and so it looks like he's performing nude in the small pic :P < 1230840378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1230840385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230840390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found that amusing :P < 1230840447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, hm... quite nice that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4iaugs_6uQ < 1230840775 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, it's 2009 < 1230840793 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means I have to remember to mark my files every time I edit them for a while :P < 1230840826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I just sed them to update copyright header once at the start of the year < 1230840968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, you should just put the copyright of when you wrote them. < 1230841005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I do < 1230841022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean updating to say 2007-2009 instead of 2007-2008 < 1230841048 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-31-62.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230841419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, there still? < 1230841431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of these http://www.tangento.net/FaeriesAireandDeathWaltzGIF1.gif and http://www.tangento.net/FaeriesAireandDeathWaltzGIF2.gif < 1230841448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230841454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1230841487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1230841493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: those are two seperate pieces < 1230841495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one < 1230841498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally unrelated < 1230841538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why do you think so? < 1230841544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem related shrug < 1230841552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not. < 1230841555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this because i've seen it 50 times. < 1230841563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your source is... a filename. < 1230841592 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "Cool timpani with small fan" :P < 1230841599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, heh < 1230841607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, possible, what is the name of the second one then? < 1230841621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1230841656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, in the first image there are some made up notes: half notes with flags < 1230841670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing is invalid < 1230841679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrong number of notes for a bar or sth IIRC) < 1230841690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the second one is correct for number / bar for many parts at least < 1230841697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I entered some of it into a midi program < 1230841705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it sound like? < 1230841712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, horrible :P < 1230841735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the bit below "With much passionfruit" < 1230841737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I entered < 1230841772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if you like a rosegarden file I could upload it somewhere < 1230841784 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With pesto" < 1230841793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a midi would be nice. < 1230841810 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the MIDI rendering didn't follow the all-important "through the frog" and "whip it good" instructions < 1230841818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok I could export it < 1230841820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, true < 1230841900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://omploader.org/vMTJ4Nw < 1230841926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard a full recording of that. < 1230841929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just one instrument, and two bars < 1230841933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, huh? < 1230841936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a full midi < 1230841939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd need to find it < 1230841945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes please < 1230841964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I LIKE the sound of that < 1230841972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it doesn't sound too bad < 1230841979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not my cup of tea < 1230841984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they make multi-port USB wall chargers ...? < 1230841993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, haha < 1230842014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know there was anything called "usb wall charger" < 1230842032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, idea: attach a powered hub to it? < 1230842063 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't trust that. The USB wall chargers are totally non-standards-compliant, they just dump as much power as they can manage at the USB device, so any device not intended for them can get zapped. < 1230842080 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, the powered USB hub would actually speak USB, so it would be unwilling to charge at the full rate. < 1230842122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://10e.org/file/death.mid incorrectly calls it the death waltz one, but oh well < 1230842129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually sounds nce < 1230842130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1230842134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it has actual structure and melody < 1230842274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ping < 1230842278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230842280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listening < 1230842282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still alive < 1230842315 0 :Warrigal!n=ihope@normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230842349 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1230842374 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the good old days of bsmnt_bot are over. < 1230842381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I actually prefer more mainstream classical music < 1230842386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, that was ages ago < 1230842389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It still sounds nice. < 1230842411 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a replacement. < 1230842412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your opinion :P < 1230842422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it has melody and form. < 1230842424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and structure. < 1230842424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, what did the bot do now again? < 1230842429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than a lot of stuff. < 1230842432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true, but could any human play it? < 1230842432 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a simpler one, with none of this chroot jail nonsense. < 1230842433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it evaluated python. < 1230842438 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it did EVERYTHING! < 1230842442 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It evaluated Python, yeah. < 1230842443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: you need that if you want python < 1230842452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hey, I'm totally happy to remove your home directory. < 1230842475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read only home too < 1230842478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the chroot jail < 1230842489 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather just create a new user. :-P < 1230842498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, still very risky < 1230842505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really trust us < 1230842506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I have a normish user account. < 1230842512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm ok and? < 1230842517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could already do anythign I could do with a user on normish. < 1230842522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assumign Warrigal is goign to put it up on normish. < 1230842529 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming so as well. < 1230842531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normish hm < 1230842536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1230842540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is that < 1230842544 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normish.org? < 1230842548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a nomic./ < 1230842552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal is connected via it. < 1230842563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it won't be in this channel then < 1230842567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, why not? < 1230842573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal is connected via normish. < 1230842575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try //whois. < 1230842579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1230842584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a server. < 1230842586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running Linux. < 1230842594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1230842596 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot would run on normish.org, yeah. < 1230842604 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As www-data. >:-) < 1230842613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, no that would be too evil < 1230842619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and risky < 1230842621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be happy to redirect your homepage to Last Measure. < 1230842621 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, um, /var/www is world-writable and anyone can run anything as www-data. < 1230842625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyone can write to /var/www. < 1230842633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But via a bot i'm less likely to lose my account. < 1230842634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch ok < 1230842656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on who does it via that bot, you could still see who placed the bot there < 1230842656 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: noooooooooooooooo < 1230842665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bsmntbombdood said < 1230842668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is only one true bsmnt_bot < 1230842672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bsmntbombdood must run it. < 1230842679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood, run it then < 1230842681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else is Right Bad Sacrelige. < 1230842702 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server i was running it in is no more < 1230842716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I has a server. < 1230842719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1230842722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1230842723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1230842733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1230842742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ? :3 < 1230842753 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll create a Normish proposal to give me a puppet. < 1230842755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WOULD BE MOST HONORED TO HOST EL "BS MNT BOT". < 1230842763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm tired. < 1230842764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1230842776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make it into one of those machines where the wheels with symbols spins and you get 3 in a row or whatever, but with smilies instead < 1230842777 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And create an empty file in /var/active-players so it can't be an active player, of course. < 1230842784 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: then host it < 1230842786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should get specific combos < 1230842790 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or hmm. < 1230842796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: only if you put it up. Anything else is great sacrelidgdgdgdge. < 1230842819 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: root access is required for the chroot < 1230842826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I could do that part. < 1230842834 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna appropriate normish, k? < 1230842873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Shall I give you a shell account, then? < 1230842880 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1230842999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use some sudo trick to do a safe transfer into the chroot ehird < 1230843009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got this set up for 32-bit chroot at home < 1230843014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I probably will. < 1230843053 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We want adduser with --disabled-login and --no-create-home... < 1230843070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in /etc/sudoers: anmaster ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/chroot /mnt/gentoo32 /usr/bin/sudo -u anmaster /bin/bash -c ( cd ~ ; /bin/bash ) < 1230843103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for /mnt/gentoo32/etc/sudoers it is enough to have the allow everything for root default line < 1230843125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the user just runs: linux32 sudo /usr/bin/chroot ${JAIL_DIR} /usr/bin/sudo -u "anmaster" /bin/bash -c "( cd ~ ; /bin/bash )" < 1230843158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where JAIL_DIR is set in the script I copied the line from... < 1230843164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, works great :) < 1230843188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo in jail doesn't even need to be suid, since only root runs it, it could be executable by root only < 1230843246 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our activate script, http://normish.org/root/usr/bin/nomic/rtbls/activate, is... rather convoluted, I find. < 1230843252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, *as far as I know* this is safe < 1230843257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 100% sure though < 1230843260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. < 1230843281 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$((($(ls -1 . | wc -l)+1)/2)) < 1230843286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: it was written by ais523 to prove me wrong, are you surprised? < 1230843290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on one line, too. < 1230843291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over IRC. < 1230843311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, heh < 1230843315 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that pretty much mean "the number of files in this folder, plus one, divided by two, rounded down"? < 1230843336 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can change ls -1 . to list only directories. < 1230843345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, echo */ < 1230843350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would do it < 1230843354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe < 1230843368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why ls is needed there < 1230843378 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why is not scp working? < 1230843379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, prove you wrong about what? < 1230843386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: what command are you using? < 1230843395 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...scp < 1230843400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1230843401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole thing :| < 1230843405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because i dunno) < 1230843414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1230843418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you read his mind < 1230843423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!? < 1230843425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraud! < 1230843427 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scp ~/python/bsmnt_bot.tgz bsmnt@std-eso.org: < 1230843433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: std-eso.org < 1230843434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso-std.org < 1230843436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare < 1230843440 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops :P < 1230843445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1230843524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I assume the chroot is 32-bit? then I'd better install linux32 < 1230843537 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh balls < 1230843546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok < 1230843554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux32 solves all issues everywhere < 1230843557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly. < 1230843561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like aids and cancer. just apply linux32. < 1230843562 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(echo */ | wc) instead of (ls -1 . | wc -l)? < 1230843574 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smp? < 1230843579 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many procs have you got? < 1230843595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me :3 < 1230843598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230843600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :procs=processors? < 1230843608 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230843615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a VPS, it's some weird shit, apparently it's shared between all of the servers < 1230843618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "it depends" < 1230843624 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230843643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am too poor to afford a dedi :} but this is functionally equivalent for 99% of stuff so. < 1230843658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one huge bot tarball you've got here < 1230843684 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 22mg < 1230843690 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...22mb < 1230843705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one slow upload, wonder if that's you or the server < 1230844240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2m to go < 1230844338 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1230844342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1230844355 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1230844370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: woohoo < 1230844389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: is it all ready? < 1230844395 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no lol < 1230844399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1230844412 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh ssh over laggy connection < 1230844462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python2.4, oldschool < 1230844478 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :P < 1230844486 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i need emacs or at least mg < 1230844506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: can't you use emacs locally and tramp to connect via ssh? < 1230844509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I've done that. < 1230844522 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to point out that the logs link in the topic is incorrect. only the part up to the host is case insensitive. < 1230844538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom is insensitive < 1230844625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: fine i'll install eamcs < 1230844642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually mg because I hate you <.< < 1230844642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230844671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you have your wish. < 1230844678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacsfag. < 1230844681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230844681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: No. No there is not. As the formation of a planet takes substantially longer than a day, and there's no agreement on what exact moment the planet is considered to be a planet rather than a ball of primordial ooze. < 1230844690 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$editorfag < 1230844707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd also like to point out that when the earth was created, the day/year ratio was probably different < 1230844752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/created/formed/ in case someone thinks the former has connotations < 1230844785 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sudo ~bsmnt/python_chroot/bot/start.sh < 1230844798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try this < 1230844814 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230844817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1230844818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1230844818 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1230844822 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEN JESUS CAME FROM HIS SPACESHIP AND SPAT INTO SPACE, THE SPITWAD FORMED A BALL AND EVENTUALLY BECAME EDEN < 1230844822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1230844823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help < 1230844826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1230844827 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEN EVE FUCKED IT UP EDEN BECAME EARTH < 1230844828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE END < 1230844830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot has no help < 1230844831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap < 1230844832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 2+2 < 1230844834 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually worked < 1230844835 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1230844838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: did it? < 1230844841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec 2+2 < 1230844844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec print 2+2 < 1230844846 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't expect that to happen < 1230844850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec print 2+2 < 1230844850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1230844851 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what do you see on stdout? < 1230844852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1230844864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do infiniloops still break it? < 1230844870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec while True: print 'a' < 1230844876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1230844879 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230844879 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~quit < 1230844927 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230844928 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230844939 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: redirect stdout and stderr to ~bsmnt/output plox < 1230844944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes sec < 1230844950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: how about using nohup < 1230844951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230844956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but k < 1230844978 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you deleted my fifo < 1230844990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, oops < 1230844991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i < 1230845007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: put it back? < 1230845022 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1230845029 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230845029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1230845033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bsmnt_bot < 1230845033 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1230845041 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm not getting anything < 1230845046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked for me < 1230845057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout.write('yoyo') < 1230845057 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoyo < 1230845062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout.write('i am green') < 1230845063 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am green < 1230845069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout.write(repr(self)) < 1230845069 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you tailing output too? < 1230845069 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<__main__.IRCbot instance at 0xf7cb86ec> < 1230845071 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1230845074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: no. < 1230845077 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout("foo") < 1230845077 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1230845080 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool it works < 1230845085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec a < 1230845085 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: name 'a' is not defined < 1230845089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1230845090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230845099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt_bot: GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK, YOUR BUGGINESS <3 < 1230845100 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230845102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230845109 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1230845114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1230845149 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be restarting automatically < 1230845161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :root@rutian:/home/bsmnt# nohup ~bsmnt/python_chroot/bot/start.sh >output 2>&1 & < 1230845161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjat < 1230845165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s how i started it < 1230845186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: look at start.sh < 1230845189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it restatr < 1230845199 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1230845234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been so long since i've looked at this code < 1230845243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll fix it later ;) < 1230845257 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230845260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, enjoy < 1230845273 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1230845291 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1230845292 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1230845454 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1230845486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : are you all DENSE < 1230845493 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1230845496 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU are dense. you are a black hole, remember? < 1230845511 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec while 1: sys.stdout("spam") < 1230845511 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1230845523 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i put in flood protection < 1230845581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: iirc you only did that for individual sys.stdout() calls < 1230845615 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was stupid of me < 1230845819 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : unless someone is confused, it can be taken as read that we get the bloody context < 1230845837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's still obscure to bring up unicorns < 1230845872 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-252-201.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1230845932 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there are some pretty cool python hacks in that bot < 1230846166 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, bsmnt_bot. < 1230846174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1230846177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it broke already? < 1230846218 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it had better flood control < 1230846238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes it run in a while tru
< 1230846238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1230846256 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wrap start.sh in something like while [ -f keep_running]; do start.sh; done < 1230846268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# (while true; do nohup ~bsmnt/python_chroot/bot/start.sh >output 2>&1; done) & < 1230846272 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230846273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WFM < 1230846279 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec random() < 1230846279 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: name 'random' is not defined < 1230846285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec while 1: sys.stdout('i like big butts and I cannot lie') < 1230846285 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like big butts and I cannot lie < 1230846285 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like big butts and I cannot lie < 1230846285 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1230846286 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230846288 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230846290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1230846300 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('random').random()) < 1230846300 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.663668683347 < 1230846309 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('random').randomInt()) < 1230846310 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'randomInt' < 1230846312 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec random.random() < 1230846313 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: name 'random' is not defined < 1230846316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: lern2python < 1230846317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec __import__('socket') < 1230846320 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(dir(__import__('random'))) < 1230846323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh we need an auto-print < 1230846325 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :['BPF', 'LOG4', 'NV_MAGICCONST', 'RECIP_BPF', 'Random', 'SG_MAGICCONST', 'SystemRandom', 'TWOPI', 'WichmannHill', '_BuiltinMethodType', '_MethodType', '__all__', '__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '_acos', '_cos', '_e', '_exp', '_hexlify', '_inst', '_log', '_pi', '_random', '_sin', '_sqrt', '_test', '_test_generator', '_urandom', '_warn', 'betavariate', 'ch < 1230846327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec print __import__('socket') < 1230846330 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oice', 'expovariate', 'gammavariate', 'gauss', 'getrandbits', 'getstate', 'jumpahead', 'lognormvariate', 'normalvariate', 'paretovariate', 'randint', 'random', 'randrange', 'sample', 'seed', 'setstate', 'shuffle', 'uniform', 'vonmisesvariate', 'weibullvariate'] < 1230846330 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1230846334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(repr(__import__('socket')) < 1230846334 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing < 1230846336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(repr(__import__('socket'))) < 1230846341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellllllooooooooooo < 1230846344 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('random').randint(5)) < 1230846346 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1230846352 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeError: randint() takes exactly 3 arguments (2 given) < 1230846360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, we have sockets. < 1230846361 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('random').randint(1,5)) < 1230846364 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1230846371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(repr(open('start.sh').read())) < 1230846371 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'start.sh' < 1230846388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(repr(open('bin').read())) < 1230846389 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IOError: [Errno 21] Is a directory < 1230846392 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: /bot/start.sh < 1230846393 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.randint = __import('random').randint < 1230846394 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: name '__import' is not defined < 1230846395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(repr(open('bot/start.sh').read())) < 1230846399 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.randint = __import__('random').randint < 1230846404 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'#! /bin/bash\n\nCHROOT=/home/bsmnt/python_chroot/\n\nif grep bot/files.img /etc/mtab\nthen\n echo\nelse\n mount $CHROOT/bot/files.img $CHROOT/bot/scripts -o loop,noexec,nodev,nosuid\nfi\n\nchroot $CHROOT /usr/bin/nice -n 7 /usr/bin/python2.4 /bot/ircbot.py\n' < 1230846406 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :join #bsmnt_bot_errors for full error trackbacks < 1230846408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: can it write to itself? < 1230846414 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: huh? < 1230846422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Couldn't I destroy its python file right now? < 1230846428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From ~exec. < 1230846438 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.blah = lambda: self.randint(1,5) < 1230846448 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i can't remember < 1230846453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230846457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit flaky ain't it < 1230846475 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec blah = self.blah; sys.stdout([blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah()]) < 1230846476 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230846490 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1230846499 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec map(lambda x, y: x ^ y, list('ABCDEF'), (list('CFGHJK')) < 1230846499 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing < 1230846503 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec blah = bot.blah; sys.stdout([blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah(),blah()]) < 1230846506 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230846518 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's odd < 1230846518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: try #bsmnt_bot_errors < 1230846526 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okies. < 1230846526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec bot < 1230846534 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self < 1230846540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1230846542 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self) < 1230846542 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<__main__.IRCbot instance at 0xf7c616ec> < 1230846548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.exit() < 1230846554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1230846555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1230846555 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blah) < 1230846556 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : at 0xf7c6756c> < 1230846558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.exit(0) < 1230846561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys._exit(0) < 1230846561 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '_exit' < 1230846569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230846582 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sys.exit should work < 1230846586 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout([self.blah() for n in [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10]) < 1230846586 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing < 1230846592 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout([self.blah() for n in [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10]]) < 1230846593 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230846600 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout([bot.blah() for n in [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10]]) < 1230846600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol va < 1230846601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1230846607 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230846610 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. < 1230846626 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec bot.blah() < 1230846626 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230846629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.__sys < 1230846631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230846632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: < 1230846634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bot.blah < 1230846635 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: IRCbot instance has no attribute '__sys' < 1230846635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentions self < 1230846637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it < 1230846637 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1230846650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: < 1230846650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:47 ~exec self.blah = lambda: self.randint(1,5) < 1230846653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spot the error < 1230846658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It needs "lambda self: ...") < 1230846663 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1230846663 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :self in a lambda. < 1230846671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.blah = lambda self: self.randint(1,5) < 1230846673 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that too. < 1230846677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blah()) < 1230846677 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeError: () takes exactly 1 argument (0 given) < 1230846681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1230846683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1230846688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: solution: < 1230846704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.blah = (lambda this: (lambda: this.randint(1,5)))(self) < 1230846708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blah()) < 1230846708 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 1230846711 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout([__import__('random').randint(1,5) for n in [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10]]) < 1230846711 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5, 1, 5, 3, 2, 2, 4, 2, 5, 3] < 1230846720 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it generates a random integer from 1 to 5. < 1230846732 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~raw JOIN ##nomic < 1230846740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for bsmnt. < 1230846741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self._ = (lambda this: (lambda l: l(this)))(self) < 1230846744 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec map(lambda x, y: chr(ord(x) ^ ord(y)), list('Hello'), list('jtcvb')) < 1230846752 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw('JOIN ##nomic') < 1230846756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.blahhy = self._(lambda this: this) < 1230846760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blahhy) < 1230846760 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<__main__.IRCbot instance at 0xf7c616ec> < 1230846762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blahhy()) < 1230846763 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: IRCbot instance has no __call__ method < 1230846768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1230846774 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(map(lambda x, y: chr(ord(x) ^ ord(y)), list('Hello'), list('jtcvb'))) < 1230846775 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :['"', '\x11', '\x0f', '\x1a', '\r'] < 1230846788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self._ = (lambda this: (lambda l: lambda *a, **k: l(this, *a, **k)))(self) < 1230846796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.blahhy = self._(lambda this, a: (this,a)) < 1230846799 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw('PRIVMSG ##nomic :%n' % __import__('random').randint(1,5)) < 1230846799 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ValueError: unsupported format character 'n' (0x6e) at index 18 < 1230846801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(self.blahhy(2)) < 1230846802 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<__main__.IRCbot instance at 0xf7c616ec>, 2) < 1230846806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: I made defining functions easy. < 1230846810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:53 ~exec self.blahhy = self._(lambda this, a: (this,a)) < 1230846818 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.raw('PRIVMSG ##nomic :%d' % __import__('random').randint(1,5)) < 1230846997 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout([ i for i in map(lambda x, y: chr(ord(x) ^ ord(y)), list('Hello'), list('jtcvb')) ]) < 1230846998 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :['"', '\x11', '\x0f', '\x1a', '\r'] < 1230847005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: What are you doing? < 1230847013 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for fun :) < 1230847141 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(map(lambda x, y: chr(ord(x) ^ ord(y)), ['"', '\x11', '\x0f', '\x1a', '\r'], list('jtcvb'))) < 1230847141 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :['H', 'e', 'l', 'l', 'o'] < 1230847181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: Ah, http://monolith.sourceforge.net/? < 1230847208 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just surprised that bsmnt_bot worked on the first try < 1230847214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: :) < 1230847353 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell: {decode ('#':x:xs) = x `asciiXOR` ' ' : decode xs; decode ('$':x:xs) = x `asciiXOR` '@' : decode xs; decode ('%':x:xs) = x `asciiXOR` '`' : decode xs; decode (x:xs) = x : decode xs; decode [] = []} < 1230847367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1230847367 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where asciiXOR converts characters into numbers, bitwise XORs them, and converts them back. < 1230847372 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you do that in Python? < 1230847375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nothing remotely like KingOfKarlsruhe's... < 1230847392 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but KingOfKarlsruhe's reminded me of this. < 1230847417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230847713 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('md5').md5.md5('Hello world!').hexdigest()) < 1230847714 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object has no attribute 'md5' < 1230847737 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how the md5 module works < 1230847767 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a lot of md5s there. < 1230847772 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.md5.md5/.md5/ < 1230847785 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec sys.stdout(__import__('md5').md5('Hello world!').hexdigest()) < 1230847785 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :86fb269d190d2c85f6e0468ceca42a20 < 1230847788 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh ^^ < 1230847853 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: chop chop < 1230847857 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: get to fixing bsmntbombdood < 1230847862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i can't fix you. < 1230847862 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bsmnt_bot < 1230847863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. < 1230847867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, fix it how < 1230847869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works. < 1230847891 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1230847897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how doesn't it < 1230847940 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.add_callback(".*foofoo.*", lambda *args:self.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :%s" % "fofofofofofof")) < 1230847941 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AttributeError: IRCbot instance has no attribute 'add_callback' < 1230847951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1230847955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with that < 1230848001 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1230848008 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.register_raw(".*foofoo.*", lambda *args:self.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :%s" % "fofofofofofof")) < 1230848016 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foofoo < 1230848016 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230848025 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~exec self.register_raw(".*foofoo.*", lambda *args:bot.raw("PRIVMSG #esoteric :%s" % "fofofofofofof")) < 1230848025 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230848028 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foofoo < 1230848043 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fofofofofofof < 1230848045 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NameError: global name 'self' is not defined < 1230848063 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fofofofofofof < 1230848073 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~quit < 1230848073 0 :bsmnt_bot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1230848075 0 :bsmnt_bot!n=bsmnt@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1230848077 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foofoo < 1230848084 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it doesn't work < 1230848092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: oh, no persistence? < 1230848096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :persistence is for weenies < 1230848101 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :callbacks are supposed to be persistant < 1230848106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230848133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1230848180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: why doesn't it work < 1230848382 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think you might have to do it manually < 1230848390 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with load_callbacks/save_callbacks or soemthing < 1230848415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1230848539 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's in betterbot.py < 1230848546 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see why they say it's good to comment your code < 1230848588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: why not use betterbot then < 1230848624 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the startup script has stuff that i added later < 1230848631 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making me think that betterbot is an old version < 1230848633 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure though < 1230848647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see bsmnt_bot is a well-maintained piece of software < 1230848656 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1230848659 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hells yes < 1230848699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION note to self: never let bsmntbombdood touch code
< 1230848717 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i'm one badass programmer < 1230848730 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bad ass-programmer? < 1230848756 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badger: only if you want me to be, baby < 1230848765 0 :Badger!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230848801 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boss, I think there's something wrong with that programmer you hired. < 1230848814 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't actually do anything; he just sits around and eats carrots. < 1230848831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate puns < 1230848875 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I told him to write a program for me, he just brayed at me. < 1230848983 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT TO TASTE YOUR FLUIDS < 1230849088 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1230849132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: don't give him any more carrots until his program compiles successfully. i'm sure you can take it from there. < 1230849147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230849181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wear protective clothing when you tell him about this policy < 1230849219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop making me sad oerjan < 1230849363 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: want kind of loser doesn't have libevent installed < 1230849376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: one whose server has absolutely nothing on < 1230849383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want libevent for ey < 1230849391 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now now i didn't say the program had to actually _work_ < 1230849402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not complete sadists here < 1230849438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ? < 1230849450 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1230849462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pj < 1230849467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't mean my server? < 1230849468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just guessing < 1230849475 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./a.out < 1230849488 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-bash: ./a.out: No such file or directory < 1230849511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jeez, bsmntbombdood, < 1230849514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output is in ~ehird < 1230849514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1230849521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1230849529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.out: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped < 1230849531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lern264-bit < 1230849538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it doesn't work < 1230849554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^@Welcome, Your nick: ^@<^@> ^@Thank you ^@ < 1230849555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Active users: ^@, ^@*system*: ^@ has joined < 1230849557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut is it < 1230849574 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol did you string it? < 1230849579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi < 1230849581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm harcore < 1230849582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardcore < 1230849592 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :harcen to ehird < 1230849607 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet to eso-std.org port 12345 < 1230849661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you quit < 1230849662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1230849670 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf it crashed < 1230849679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you run it < 1230849681 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1230849686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 32-bit < 1230849696 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: so is the stuff in the chroot < 1230849698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, we have linux32 < 1230849698 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that worked < 1230849699 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1230849700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1230849725 0 :dkoder!i=jello@92-236-60-228.cable.ubr13.dals.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1230849748 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet in again < 1230849764 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wtf did you do < 1230849769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Welcome, Your nick: ^[[A^[[A < 1230849776 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly did you type? < 1230849783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^[[A - up key < 1230849785 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should add some sanity checking... < 1230849793 0 :dkoder!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1230849807 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders the use of production rules in compiling
< 1230849831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: use a real nick < 1230849839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all yur messages are blank < 1230849872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIX IT < 1230849885 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> lambda -> < 1230849888 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1230849917 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no u < 1230849934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIX IT < 1230849939 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: telnet back in and use a real nick < 1230849944 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just alphanums, then hit enter < 1230849948 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you < 1230849955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: sorry < 1230849956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAD TO < 1230849958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll connect properly now < 1230849991 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did it wrong < 1230849995 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not working < 1230850003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1230850023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ? < 1230850078 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever i have to go to work < 1230850081 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll fix it later < 1230850130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1230851873 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1230852504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, iMovie as a web app. Uh-huh. Slogan: “And you thought USB was slow.” -- John Gruber < 1230853302 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1230853307 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you like guns germs and steel right? < 1230853351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :steel is fine, the others i'm not quite as fond of < 1230853357 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1230853360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah i know it's a book title)