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Yes! 15:39:24 and monocles! 15:39:25 yeah but where do we get the steam-powered death rays? 15:39:28 one for each eye! 15:39:38 one thing at a time, oerjan 15:39:44 first we build out analytical engine 15:40:34 I prefer to call her Lady Ada. 15:40:40 then use it to calculate the plans for a deadly corpuscular wave projector! 15:40:54 Lada Ada the Lovelace Lady. 15:40:57 s/a/y/ 15:40:59 ok fine, i'll be lady ada :| 15:41:31 what 15:41:32 Or the Countess of Lovelace if you so prefer. 15:41:35 also, afaik the analytical engine has _not_ been built. 15:41:50 oerjan : There's a program simulation 15:41:57 Lady Ada Countess Lovelace is how her name would've been said 15:42:16 i believe. british titles are weird in how they're used 15:42:32 they're preposed before the last name when reading someones full name 15:43:14 so its like Lord John Robert Duke Norwich 15:43:35 you're right, it hasn't been build oerjan 15:43:39 or so we think 15:44:13 how do we know the government hasnt constructed dozens of these calculating machines and used them to tabulate thousands of units of data about the citizenry?! 15:44:31 They have, psygnisfive 15:44:38 But they used regular calculating machines 15:44:45 It's way cheaper 15:44:54 DO NOT FRIGHTEN ME, SIR! 15:45:09 * psygnisfive hits slereah with his umbrella 15:45:25 Well old chap. 15:45:34 What would you say about a jolly old round of rogering? 15:45:34 CHEERIO MUSTACHE 15:45:51 oh splendid idea my good fellow, splendid idea! 15:46:26 god i love steam punk XD 15:46:46 I have the honour to remain, Madam, Your Majesty's most humble and obedient servant! 15:46:49 Wait, what? 15:47:34 http://community.livejournal.com/steamfashion/374499.html 15:47:46 that guy with the cyberpunk hair? i want his outfit 15:47:48 kerlo: Watt. specifically, his steam engine. 15:48:05 watt is a late comer 15:48:30 well you don't want to come too early 15:48:38 alexander had hes little steam striven ball, be it a toy, and the venicians were using steam turbines for centuries before watt 15:48:56 * oerjan sometimes doesn't believe himself 15:49:14 do you see his wonderful outfit?! 15:49:21 * Slereah pinches oerjan 15:53:03 that's what i thought i was just dreaming 15:53:06 *, 16:30:14 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 16:30:25 -!- psygnisfive has joined. 16:33:34 -!- ehird has left (?). 16:33:38 -!- ehird has joined. 16:59:22 Who wants to join my 'never check the return result of malloc()' club? 17:00:27 ehird: they aren't here, their clients crashed 17:00:45 ais523: Their IRC clients use all their fucking memory? 17:00:47 They have bigger problems. 17:01:06 Also, I assume YOUR irc client gracefully recovers from out of memory, ey? 17:01:18 (Exiting is not a recovery.) 17:01:25 (Exiting in that case = crashing.) 17:01:40 actually, it depends on the OS 17:01:52 checking malloc's return value is pointless on Linux nowadays unless you're doing very big allocs 17:02:03 because it's more likely to return a false value or kill your process than it is to return null 17:02:36 as far as I'm concerned, if there isn't enough memory to run my program, then that's the rest of the system's problem 17:03:59 some programs can recover sanely on out-of-memory 17:04:11 ais523: yes, about 3 of them. 17:04:13 by not doing whatever was using the memory 17:04:16 most of the time, it's not worth the trouble 17:04:21 ehird: Perl is one, if you compile it with special flags 17:04:32 ais523: it shouldn't, though 17:04:49 sure, you CAN go into StrippedDownMode, but if the computer has no memory left, I doubt using your program will be possible anyway. 17:04:53 or easy 17:06:22 ehird: just think about what's using the memory, and don't 17:06:30 for instance, say you're trying to open a file and it doesn't fit in memory 17:06:42 it would be graceful to just not open that file and let people continue editing the other files they have open 17:06:52 ais523: yes, that is one of the rare cases 17:06:53 or at least give them a chance to save them 17:07:03 I'm talking in general, here 17:07:09 the regular memory that your program uses for stuff 17:07:24 don't even bother wrapping it, it doesn't even buy you anything, it's such an edge case 17:40:35 hm. 17:40:55 yes, hindley-milner is a good idea. if you can pull it off. 17:41:57 lawlz. 17:42:06 grrrrrrrrrrr the next person that calls a language unreadable 17:42:08 will eat my fucking toes 17:44:04 Unreadable 17:45:34 * ehird kills Slereah 17:46:24 :D 17:46:53 * oerjan doesn't find Unreadable on the wiki 17:47:18 lawl 17:47:28 of course it would take something to beat the competition 17:48:21 whitespace-encoded Unlambda would take quite some reading 17:48:28 -!- CakeProphet has quit ("lol"). 17:48:46 aye 17:50:34 Well, whitespace is already unreadable. 17:50:47 I decree that foobar. 17:51:03 you just need good syntax colouring. 17:52:03 O_O 17:52:20 there are editors to syntax-colour Whitespace 17:52:27 but even with syntax colouring, Whitespace is hard to read 17:58:42 whitespace can surely be trivially ciphered into something more readable 18:00:30 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 18:04:49 well isn't it just a stack thingie 18:04:58 yeah 18:05:12 oklorol!? 18:05:14 with an r?! 18:05:22 and why not? 18:05:30 it doesnt feel right D: 18:05:42 the ok and the use of several os have been pretty much the only stable part of oklorol's nick 18:05:45 indeed it doesn't. 18:05:54 although I still think of them as oklopol, probably because that's the most common one 18:06:13 did you know the piraha change names every few months? 18:06:14 well i agree with psygnisfive, "rol" just doesn't work that well. 18:06:27 the fist? 18:06:28 *fish 18:06:36 no no 18:06:41 thats piranha 18:06:50 yes, but could've been a typo. 18:06:50 the pirahĂŁ are a tribe in the amazon 18:07:03 that i did *not* know. 18:07:06 i dont maek typos 18:07:24 i know you don't. it was a pretty surreal joke. 18:07:34 its true tho 18:07:42 they change names every few months 18:07:47 ... 18:07:47 i mean mine 18:07:53 i know you're not joking 18:07:56 and not necessarily like.. "I am now Bob!" 18:07:58 more like 18:08:06 "You dont feel like a Jack any more.. you're more of a Bob." 18:08:47 DO THEIR SOULS CHANGE TOO? 18:09:17 they dont have souls 18:09:51 are they trying to make up for that with all the names? 18:10:04 yes 18:10:07 ah. 18:10:11 makes sense 18:10:16 -!- oklorol has changed nick to oklosol. 18:10:40 still not right but better 18:10:46 yes 18:12:07 i should probably do something soon 18:12:16 been awake for 12 hours, done nothing yet :-) 18:15:13 im probably going to go to bed for another hour or two 18:15:28 hf 18:16:18 oklokok and oklohol. its what you use to oklofok 18:16:19 :o 18:16:31 :D 18:17:16 oklohol sounds more like an alcoholic beverage to me. 18:18:35 mm 18:18:41 i'd drink it ;O 18:18:57 i'm sure you would :) 18:19:02 Olkohol 18:19:05 get a channel 18:23:17 hmm. actually i think i'll just sleep a mo 18:23:19 well. 18:23:20 till morning 18:23:21 -> 18:28:08 oklosol is a solution. 18:28:22 Wait, no, it isn't. 18:28:36 It's a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in oklopol. 18:30:29 Semen. 18:32:56 -!- psygnisf_ has joined. 18:33:04 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:33:25 oklosol is okloscented 18:33:38 cleans your windows wonderfully! 18:33:42 -!- psygnisf_ has changed nick to psygnisfive. 18:35:35 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:35:44 -!- psygnisfive has joined. 18:52:12 bye 18:52:15 -!- Mony has quit ("Quit"). 18:52:37 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:52:42 -!- puzzlet has joined. 19:07:50 -!- puzzlet has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 19:09:54 -!- puzzlet has joined. 19:16:08 -!- Corun has joined. 19:19:42 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 19:21:57 -!- LinuS has joined. 19:43:09 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:49:38 -!- kar8nga has joined. 21:46:31 -!- LinuS has quit ("Puzzi. 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Puzzi."). 21:55:11 ehird: I'm reading through the happy-hour PAM and other useful programs thing you linked earlier 21:55:18 I especially like the block-device version of /dev/null 21:55:25 cdrewind is brilliance 21:55:33 http://www.brendangregg.com/Specials/cdrewind 21:55:36 in theory, you could use that to test mke2fs or similar programs which work best on block devices 21:55:40 and yes, I like it too 21:55:57 hmm... mightn't it cause the CD to always be the right way up when you take it out of the drive? 21:56:06 it's annoying to take out a CD and see it has an upside-down logo 21:56:09 ha 21:56:15 it's like the thing rotates inside the drive 21:56:31 my cd blunder is putting it in wrong side up 21:56:46 this imac could do with a little form over function in that area, there's no eject button... 21:56:59 i got it ejected once from the os, I don't recall how 21:57:07 /dev/notrandom is kind-of fun 21:57:18 also, I have 5 ways to eject on here 21:57:19 i like how it consists of infinite bleeps 21:57:23 to simulate catting /dev/random 21:58:03 does it delay every few seconds like random? 21:58:03 it should 21:58:04 eject button, Fn-F10, eject from command-line, eject icon on Nautilus that's utterly ripped off from Mac OS X, right-click and choose eject 21:58:17 (that's one of Mac OS X's better ideas, though, I'm glad Ubuntu shamelessly stole it) 21:58:44 i'm pretty sure every gui environment since the macintosh has stolen from it :P 21:58:46 except maybe plan 9. 21:59:05 oh, yes 21:59:12 but this was a newish idea they stole, not an old one 21:59:15 also, what about Smalltalk? 21:59:26 well, I was about to say the macintosh stole wholesale from xerox parc. 21:59:54 also, wow at ged.jar 21:59:59 and they did both the Alto and Smalltalk 22:00:03 at similra times 22:00:09 I think it's a bad idea for much the same reason as gvim, by the way 22:00:15 Much later, in the midst of the Apple v. Microsoft lawsuit in which Apple accused Microsoft of violating its copyright by appropriating the use of the "look and feel" of the Macintosh GUI, Xerox also sued Apple on the same grounds. 22:00:20 ^ brilliant 22:00:20 I like vi, but think gvim is kind-of missing the point 22:00:29 and yes, that is brilliant 22:01:18 ais523: the sam editor for plan9 is basically multi-document ed 22:01:20 it has a top command pane 22:01:23 and little file windows 22:01:42 the file windows are just for seeing what you're doing :P 22:01:51 iirc, ken thompson uses it as his main editor 22:02:05 before that? 22:02:05 ed. 22:02:53 I've edited with sed before now 22:03:02 ed is similar but more interactive-friendly 22:03:50 -!- bloreg has joined. 22:04:14 -!- Ilke has joined. 22:04:16 hi 22:04:18 anyone awake 22:04:21 hi 22:04:21 yes 22:04:46 -!- Ilke has set topic: YOU'RE AWAKE MOTHERFUCKER??? GET A REAL LANGUAGE! GET LAID! GET OFF THIS CHANNEL DIPSHIT. 22:04:49 -!- Ilke has left (?). 22:04:54 yes, I'm awake 22:04:54 just about 22:07:28 ... 22:07:35 what a sad fucker :) 22:07:43 -!- jkele has joined. 22:07:49 jkele: hi, ilke. 22:07:54 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:08:00 -!- jkele has set topic: ehird sad is your momMOTHERFUCKER!!! GET A REAL LANGUAGE! GET LAID! GET OFF THIS CHANNEL DIPSHIT. 22:08:03 -!- jkele has left (?). 22:08:04 wow 22:08:05 a troll 22:08:08 yep 22:08:10 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:08:13 hahaha, what a fucking retard 22:08:15 :D 22:08:18 also, yay for a client that stores topic history 22:08:18 I'm disappointed. 22:08:37 jkele No such nick/channel 22:08:43 Coward! 22:08:45 well, we have the whois data 22:08:48 woah, wait, "ehird sad is your mom"? 22:08:49 LOL 22:08:50 and jkele = Ilke, pretty obviously 22:08:57 given the identical whois 22:08:59 and name similarity 22:09:01 and behaviour similarity 22:09:07 Who's Ilke? 22:09:13 the previous troll. 22:09:16 who came in 3 seconds before him. 22:09:18 cheriire@cpe-76-87-77-169.socal.res.rr.com 22:09:21 and did the same thing. 22:09:32 may as well preserve the whois for the logs, in case anyone decides to google it or whatever 22:09:36 now the question - 22:09:37 Yes, but I was mostly looking for where he hangs out 22:09:44 where did he come from, why did he do that, and who is he? 22:10:02 i really can't think why you'd do that, i mean, it's just a stupid little channel that nobody really cares about 22:10:04 it's someone who at least knows a bit about what the channel's for 22:10:08 given what he put in the topic 22:10:22 His mom was raped by Brainfuck 22:10:26 -!- klslss has joined. 22:10:31 klslss: not you again 22:10:32 so tell us 22:10:34 who are you 22:10:36 where're you from 22:10:40 -!- klslss has set topic: EHIRD WILL SUCK MY BALLS AND HIS MOM's! Slereah will do the same because he's a opwhore! REST OF YOU FUCKWITS GET A REAL LANGUAGE, LEARN A REAL LANGUAGE AND STOP BEING WUSSIES FROM START TREK!. 22:10:41 and why are you targeting this tiny place. 22:10:42 -!- klslss has left (?). 22:10:47 ahahahahahahahah 22:10:57 He is on no other channel. 22:11:03 ahahahahahgahahahahahahaha 22:11:03 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:11:10 A sockpuppet just to troll our little place? 22:11:12 how old are you, log-reading troll? 22:11:15 I feel honored. 22:11:16 7? 22:11:18 can't be much more 22:11:56 Well, here's one for our log reading troll then. 22:11:57 http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Argh/1221655091974.jpg 22:12:05 Slereah: what's that a link to? 22:12:14 ais523: don't click. 22:12:16 I'm obviously not planning to click on it given content 22:12:17 ais523 : Something you'd better not click 22:12:32 oerjan: don't click on the above link 22:12:38 I know you aren't here, but IIRC you logread 22:12:47 EVERYONE: don't click on the above link. 22:12:58 Slereah: just don't paste that sort of link in 22:13:03 wait 22:13:06 I subtract the troll from EVERYONE 22:13:47 * ais523 wonders if the troll actually deduced the logs from the topic 22:13:52 by running the resulting program 22:14:32 -!- klslvoeoe has joined. 22:14:38 -!- klslvoeoe has set topic: you can subtract your mom from my dick because she's old and you're a stupid fuckface! now LEARN C or say perl! stop being esoteric asswads. 22:14:39 -!- klslvoeoe has left (?). 22:15:00 How can someone know what C and Perl is and be so absolutely fucking braindead? 22:15:08 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:15:20 i wonder why he thinks we even care. 22:15:22 do we have any live ops? 22:15:28 nah. 22:15:33 he'll give up eventually. 22:15:42 unless he's I_RULE in disguise. 22:15:54 which is...very possible 22:16:00 well, telling freenode might help stop them trolling other channels that care more 22:16:09 Maybe he comes from /prog/ :o 22:16:10 freenode don't do that kind of thing. 22:16:32 I_RULE claimed to have been "harrassed and threatened" by me over /msg in #freenode, they just told him to ignore me. 22:16:36 (Of course, the whole thing was made up.) 22:16:36 what, kill trolls? 22:16:47 for specific channels, they tell you to take it up with that channel's op 22:17:02 Who's that channel's op? 22:17:10 alive: lament, fizzie. 22:17:15 bsmnt_bot, destroy him! 22:17:15 active: fizzie. 22:17:19 ha 22:17:25 ~exec sys.stdout('pew pew pew') 22:17:26 pew pew pew 22:17:32 :D 22:17:39 ehird 22:17:41 I <3 u 22:17:48 -!- JSKSKSLVE has joined. 22:17:50 o u 22:17:51 -!- JSKSKSLVE has set topic: NO LIVE OPS!!! get with the program! C or perl!. 22:17:52 -!- JSKSKSLVE has left (?). 22:18:01 -!- Slereah has set topic: NO LIVE OPS!!! get with the program! Python!. 22:18:05 Hey, he stopped insulting our mothers. 22:18:06 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:18:28 -!- ehird has set topic: NO DEAD OPS!!! get out of the program! Brainfuck! http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 22:18:32 I'm shocked that this man would claim that C is a real language. 22:18:49 C and Perl are pretty different in philosophy... 22:18:55 with c you can be a real man. 22:18:57 and both are arguably esoteric 22:19:02 and allocate memory with your huge manly manliness. 22:19:02 -!- jkvkasas has joined. 22:19:05 although not as esoteric as most of the stuff we discuss here 22:19:05 wb 22:19:06 -!- jkvkasas has set topic: BRAINFUCK IS NOT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS OR USES! you fucking cunts, learn a real language!. 22:19:07 -!- jkvkasas has left (?). 22:19:08 how are you today 22:19:15 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:19:18 does he realise we just do this for fun? 22:19:28 "BRAINFUCK IS NOT WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS OR USES! " -- sounds like an enterprise idiot 22:19:42 * ehird waits for his delayed topic-response. 22:20:02 ehird: can you easily bring back optbot? 22:20:07 'twould seem to be the perfect response 22:20:21 -!- jvkdkdke has joined. 22:20:25 -!- jvkdkdke has set topic: enterprise idiot? OH AND YOU GUYS AREN'T AND ARE SUPPOSED TO GET A BIGGER PAYCHECK BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS? LOLOLOL, YOU SOUND LIKE A VB SCHMUCK!. 22:20:28 -!- jvkdkdke has left (?). 22:20:29 -!- optbot has joined. 22:20:29 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Rule: You must violate this rule.. 22:20:30 He can be programmed to hunt him down with his laser. 22:20:30 besides, nobody's forcing anyone to use BF 22:20:48 we're not doing this for a paycheck, you retard. 22:20:56 ehird: two log links? optbot cares about them even more than I and oklosol do 22:20:56 ais523: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Rule: You must violate this rule. 22:21:03 oh dear. 22:21:08 oh, you've only given it one line of input 22:21:10 optbot? 22:21:10 ais523: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Rule: You must violate this rule. 22:21:15 are you so insecure that you can't deal with a bunch of people - many of whom, in fact, I believe have been "laid" - messing around with computation? 22:21:16 -!- optbot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:21:19 The answer, is yes. 22:21:47 -!- optbot has joined. 22:21:47 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I doubt it's like that. 22:21:52 I think it is, optbot. 22:21:53 ehird: sounds pimpcash 22:21:58 Yes. Very pimpcash, optbot. 22:21:58 ehird: really isn't? damn :\ 22:22:01 optbot: no, is. 22:22:01 ehird: yes 22:22:03 optbot: yes 22:22:04 ehird: just as long as it doesn't involve smurfs. FOR MERCY'S SAKE, NO SMURFS 22:22:06 -!- KVDLWW has joined. 22:22:08 optbot: okay, okay, no smurfs. 22:22:09 ehird: d(4/b(4))-4/4 = 80 22:22:09 -!- KVDLWW has set topic: THEN WHAT DO YOU CARE ABOUT? USE A REAL LANGUAGE! SERIOUSLYT! AND IF YOU'RE USING BRAINFUCK AS A HOBBYIST, YOU CAN START OFF BY GETTING a different hobby like maybe going out and getting laid like NORMAL PEOPLE?!. 22:22:11 optbot: say hi to KVDLWW 22:22:11 ehird: How's that :P 22:22:12 -!- KVDLWW has left (?). 22:22:13 optobt! 22:22:15 optbot! 22:22:15 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | no. 22:22:25 I got laid yesterday :D 22:22:33 troll: how do you think we implement BF, if not in real languages/ 22:22:38 wait wait wait. 22:23:03 Dear anonymous coward troll: Why don't you go get laid like NORMAL PEOPLE, instead of trolling an IRC channel? 22:23:03 well, in reality we implement it in esolangs 22:23:03 but that's because we're us 22:23:05 After all, the two are obviously mutually incompatible. 22:23:08 Just as with esolangs, right? 22:23:32 Guys. 22:23:35 Stop caring. 22:23:39 This is fun. 22:23:40 Like, actually not caring. 22:23:46 Because he's an idiot. 22:24:39 * ais523 deplores the current decline in the quality of internet trolling 22:24:46 trolls used to actually be good back decades ago 22:24:51 quite 22:24:52 and not be recognised as trolls for weeks 22:24:54 Yeah, where are the 50 Hitlers? 22:24:59 Heck, I'd prefer the GNAA or 4chan to this moron. 22:25:10 -!- Slereah has changed nick to Epic_Fail_Guy. 22:25:11 then, when the conversation got interesting and bizzare, you got the YHBT. YHL. HAND. 22:25:13 Someone rang? 22:25:15 and that was that 22:25:21 NickServ- This nickname is registered. 22:25:23 Oh shi- 22:25:37 Epic_Fail_Guy: no, you have to start 100 clones and spam the channel with "FUCK" 22:25:39 -!- Epic_Fail_Guy has changed nick to Slereah. 22:25:43 get it right 22:25:53 ehird : I used to have a program like that 22:25:59 I think it's on Partyvan. 22:26:00 Slereah: what's the point? 22:26:06 ais523: trolling. 22:26:08 is the point. 22:26:09 :D 22:26:10 all IRC networks ban clonebots nowadays anyway 22:26:25 ais523: I've ran clonebots in #esoteric-blah for an okoplay. 22:26:33 they spammed fast and weren't banned 22:26:37 that was only 2 of them, not hundreds 22:26:41 no 22:26:43 i had another variation 22:26:45 with like 30 22:26:56 hmm... there should be a mode on channels meaning "this channel allows clonebots and spamming" 22:27:08 ha 22:27:09 hmm... maybe a +trolling/-trolling mode too 22:27:21 not entirely sure what would happen if a troll came in and it was turned off 22:27:29 It ought to be noted that despite the pseudo-mathematical styling of this formulation, it is mathematically equivalent to saying "Sometimes people make comparisons involving Nazis or Hitler," and thus means pretty much nothing. 22:27:34 -- Encyclopedia Dramatica on Godwin's Law 22:27:55 ehird: it actually means "the longer a thread gets, the more likely it is that someone will make a Godwin comparison" 22:27:55 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 22:28:01 but that comes to much the same thing 22:28:12 -!- kskskssldlld has joined. 22:28:16 -!- kskskssldlld has set topic: /quit fuckers. 22:28:18 -!- kskskssldlld has left (?). 22:28:19 there are some bizzare potential counterexamples, say the law would be false if the first message in a thread had a 50% chance of mentioning hitler 22:28:21 but none of the others did 22:28:27 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:28:42 gee troll you sure are making our lives hard 22:28:43 not 22:28:48 kskskssldlld: you're doing it wrong, if you want to quit someone else from IRC you type /quit name into your client, not into the topic 22:28:52 besides, fuckers isn't in here atm anyway 22:29:09 i like the part where he's getting more and more lazy 22:29:14 right now I long for the days of me sucking balls. 22:29:39 ehird: that sounds wrong 22:29:47 intentional 22:30:34 -!- alexholowczak has joined. 22:30:42 Weird 22:30:45 alexholowczak: hi, are you the troll? 22:30:46 No 22:30:48 no, he isn't 22:30:49 hooray. 22:30:51 I was told of a troll. 22:30:51 The spamming program is not on Partyvan. 22:30:54 he knows me from another channel 22:30:57 ah. 22:30:57 So I thought I'd poke my nose in. :-P 22:31:00 he's never seen a troll, so he came to watch 22:31:00 Maybe it was on Patriotic Nigra. 22:31:11 alexholowczak: be braced for topic profanity. 22:31:16 he'll be back in a minute... 22:31:20 (22:30:38) ehird: alexholowczak: hi, are you the troll? <- What would you have done if I said "yes"? :-P 22:31:30 Or... would you expect him to say "yes"? :-P 22:31:37 alexholowczak: commended you for having actually said something in the channel :P 22:31:40 -!- Judofyr has joined. 22:31:46 and Judofyr isn't the troll either 22:31:52 or... maybe he is! 22:31:56 wrong continent 22:31:57 * ehird dramatic music 22:32:01 ais523: proxies! 22:32:02 ehird: Yes, I know that IRC has a reputation for not having anything happen... ever. 22:32:04 either that, or being very clever with proxies 22:32:23 gah. Colloquy won't let me see what you write! 22:32:24 alexholowczak: this troll delivers messages by coming in with a dsfkjsdfkj-style nick, setting the channel, and parting again 22:32:25 :-( 22:32:34 ehird: I see. 22:32:39 see: the logs :P 22:32:39 Judofyr: why not? 22:32:52 it's just blank :P 22:32:54 probably a bug 22:33:00 or 22:33:05 it _is_ a bug 22:33:05 well, you can see what we're saying now 22:33:07 presumably 22:33:37 presumably, you say? :P 22:33:53 I can read the raw IRC-stream, though 22:34:00 Just as I join... and the troll doesn't return. 22:34:01 ah, ok 22:34:03 is it a known bug 22:34:07 alexholowczak: he'll be back 22:34:11 Ah right. 22:34:12 he was away for quite a bit last time 22:34:14 alexholowczak: trolls aren't used to people reacting intelligently, we must have confused them 22:34:19 lol 22:34:40 heh 22:34:40 quick, ais523, talk about computation 22:34:40 ais523: dunno 22:34:40 good IRC client for mac, anyone? 22:34:53 limecaht!!!!!! 22:34:55 Judofyr: ehird should know one, he used one for ages 22:34:59 http://limechat.net/mac/ 22:34:59 and probably still does 22:35:02 Somebody poke me if the troll returns... Indeed it may not be your priority... But it'd be appreciated. :-P 22:35:11 -!- VKDKAKKE has joined. 22:35:14 -!- VKDKAKKE has set topic: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA get a realLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LANGUAGE. 22:35:15 alexholowczak: he's back 22:35:15 Hey buddy 22:35:18 -!- VKDKAKKE has left (?). 22:35:18 Yeah 22:35:19 I saw. 22:35:21 lol 22:35:25 this is exciting 22:35:28 My client went grey when he appeared. 22:35:30 like... retarded fireworks! 22:35:40 -!- ais523 has set topic: Logs are here: `wget http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/08.12.29 -O - 2> /dev/null | grep 'logs >>>' | sed 's/.*logs >>> \(.*\) <<<.*/\1/'`. 22:35:45 This is intelligent spamming though. 22:35:50 He's insulting a programming language. 22:35:56 which one, though? 22:35:58 for some values of intelligent 22:36:03 This isn't YouTube commenting type spamming. 22:36:06 he insulted BF earlier, but not on any particularly insightful grounds 22:36:24 alexholowczak: it's worse because he's shown a cursory knowledge of the existence of C, Perl and brainfuck 22:36:25 he's just jealous of a channel where you can do this: 22:36:30 Hey, guy, what do you think of Lazy K? 22:36:31 ^bf ,[.,]!Look at this! 22:36:31 Look at this! 22:36:38 you can't easily do that with C 22:36:42 Yes, but by doing it by insulting a programming language is... not usual. 22:36:43 -!- casmith_789 has joined. 22:36:50 hi casmith_789 22:36:55 help, we're being invaded by troll-watchers 22:36:57 ehird: He's bot inspecting too, I believe. 22:36:58 hi 22:37:02 .c printf("hello world\n"); /* don't tempt me ais523 */ 22:37:05 casmith_789: how long until the whole of the rest of the channel turns up? 22:37:09 s/bot/troll/ 22:37:11 He attracts tourism. 22:37:12 lol 22:37:21 we should have people come in and fake trolling 22:37:23 for the publicity 22:37:23 He's a valuable asset to this communauty. 22:37:34 The rest of the channel won't be that interested. 22:38:15 ^bf >,[>,]<[.<]!Playing around with BF is fun. 22:38:15 .nuf si FB htiw dnuora gniyalP 22:38:19 I'm worried - is that programming language I see c? 22:38:25 casmith_789: that was :-P 22:38:29 ehird pasted a line of C above 22:38:30 casmith_789: It's probably esoteric... Oh. 22:38:30 brb, switching to LimeChat :-) 22:38:32 -!- Judofyr has quit. 22:38:32 but there isn't a Cbot in here 22:38:41 Good. 22:38:42 ais523: I was threatening to add that to botte. 22:38:44 C is an awful language. 22:38:51 ehird: it would be hard to get it working correctly 22:38:54 Hey, guy, why don't you take up Python? 22:38:58 It's an awesome language. 22:38:59 although writing .c #define NULL argv would be fun 22:39:01 Or Scheme! 22:39:06 ais523: not really, import standard headers, wrap in main(void) { ... } 22:39:08 Slereah: Are you xlq in disguise? :-P 22:39:08 or Smalltalk? 22:39:09 err 22:39:15 alexholowczak: no 22:39:15 int main(void) { ...; return 0; } 22:39:25 and run in sandbox 22:39:27 xlq? 22:39:28 * ais523 waits for AnMaster to wonder wtf is going on 22:39:42 Slereah: He's someone who I know... Who always goes on about how great python is. 22:39:48 -!- Judofyr has joined. 22:39:51 hi Judofyr 22:39:52 Well, it is! 22:39:53 Perl vs. Python is one of the big Holy Wars 22:39:53 hi! 22:39:59 just like emacs vs. vi 22:40:01 I don't know Perl 22:40:06 or 1tbs vs. BSD-style indentation 22:40:07 ruby :P 22:40:08 So I'll just go PYTHON ACKBAR >:| 22:40:22 Judofyr: limechat is written in ruby FWIW :P 22:40:28 well, everyone: 22:40:33 cool 22:40:41 looks like time to go home, anyway 22:40:42 -!- casmith_789 has quit (Client Quit). 22:40:44 hmm on further inspection the site says that 22:40:46 about 3 times 22:40:47 bye ais523 22:40:50 ais523, ? 22:40:50 you'll have to have fun troll-watching on your own 22:40:51 what? 22:40:55 AnMaster: someone mentioned xlq 22:40:55 AnMaster: we have a troll. 22:40:57 who wasn't me 22:41:00 also, we have a troll 22:41:02 ais523 pinged you for some reason 22:41:07 -!- JKLELVE has joined. 22:41:10 ooh he's back 22:41:10 -!- JKLELVE has set topic: befunge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ftw! and its not some stupid python vs perl flame war! it's about being rational on what languages can be used and what hobbies you people need to revaluate!. 22:41:12 -!- JKLELVE has left (?). 22:41:16 // 22:41:18 Wait. 22:41:19 Befunge ftw? 22:41:23 Isn't this guy anti-eso/ 22:41:25 ehird, huh 22:41:30 Everyone <3 Befunge, ehird 22:41:32 Hoe did he see that? 22:41:34 AnMaster: apparently I suck balls! 22:41:36 He wasn't here at the time. 22:41:37 alexholowczak: He log watches, duh. 22:41:40 Ah. 22:41:43 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/09.01.03 22:41:43 ehird, report to opers and/or chanops 22:41:43 bye, anyway 22:41:45 Sorry: New to this. :-P 22:41:46 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 22:41:47 AnMaster: there are none, stupid 22:41:49 :P 22:41:56 also, freenode oeprs don't deal with cahnnel-specific thngs 22:41:56 ehird, lament? 22:42:00 lament is never here 22:42:09 besides, he'll tire soon enough 22:42:11 Camping is probably the framework for you guys: http://github.com/why/camping/tree/master/lib%2Fcamping.rb 22:42:13 :P 22:42:15 meanwhile, he's amusingly idiotic 22:42:16 -!- jvkelfoe has joined. 22:42:19 -!- jvkelfoe has set topic: report?! LOLOLOLOL suck it up and accept the fact i'm right here! esosteric languages suck monkey balls!. 22:42:20 -!- jvkelfoe has left (?). 22:42:22 Judofyr: i love camping, it's ridiculous 22:42:30 ehird, yes he is, he made a zen comment just a few a weeks ago 22:42:33 troll: like we'd dignify you with a reporting. 22:42:36 and then went away again 22:42:41 AnMaster: whatever 22:42:42 in my local repo I've manged to get it below 3k 22:42:43 Hrm? 22:42:48 fizzie: troll 22:42:48 see above 22:42:51 he's been here for hours XD 22:42:52 Maybe I should do at +t, then. 22:42:55 aww 22:42:58 well, yes. 22:43:04 Do that, fizzie 22:43:06 anyway going afk again, studying for test 22:43:09 fizzie have op? 22:43:10 Maybe he'll talk to us for reals :D 22:43:11 -!- ehird has set topic: TAKE THIS | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 22:43:13 +t it 22:43:16 and force him to USE MESSAGES 22:43:23 -!- ehird has set topic: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 22:43:51 yes he has 22:43:58 and he can even edit access list it seems 22:43:58 fizzie: +t? :{ 22:44:02 from a quick look 22:44:07 ehird: hm... I can't see when other talks in other channels, though :/ 22:44:10 (in limechat) 22:44:11 fizzie has been an op since like 2003 22:44:13 Judofyr: yes you can 22:44:15 it goes blue 22:44:17 and comes on the console 22:44:18 (bottom pane) 22:44:30 -!- iivkee has joined. 22:44:32 00:44:20 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- The KEEPTOPIC flag has been set for channel #esoteric. 22:44:32 -!- iivkee has set topic: +t? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA no this is what you do, type /j #C. 22:44:34 -!- iivkee has left (?). 22:44:39 oh.. 22:44:40 fizzie: no 22:44:41 not keep topic 22:44:43 that's a chanserv thang 22:44:44 I have no idea what that does. 22:44:47 Judofyr: it's just like colloquy 22:44:50 -!- ehird has set topic: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 22:44:52 Freenode is so confusing! 22:44:53 fizzie: just +t 22:44:54 I see 22:45:00 /mode +t #esoteric :P 22:45:16 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o fizzie. 22:45:21 -!- fizzie has set channel mode: +t. 22:45:22 -!- viekwke has joined. 22:45:25 -!- viekwke has left (?). 22:45:28 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: -t. 22:45:28 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: -t. 22:45:32 haha! 22:45:39 -!- VKEKWEKW has joined. 22:45:43 -!- VKEKWEKW has set topic: what it does is YOU CANT CHANGE THE FUCKING TOPIC YOU FUCKING CUNTS WASTING TIME ON LANGUAGES THAT HAVE 0 VALUE {}. 22:45:46 -!- VKEKWEKW has left (?). 22:45:48 Heh, modelocked to not have +t. Freenode, how silly you are. 22:46:00 fizzie, keep topic means the topic will be restored after a netsplit or such 22:46:03 -!- Slereah has set topic: Woooo, ghost blowjob!. 22:46:05 as when it goes empty 22:46:07 anyway 22:46:14 fizzie, do you have +s in flags? 22:46:16 -!- ehird has left (?). 22:46:18 -!- ehird has joined. 22:46:24 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +t. 22:46:25 then you can change the modelock 22:46:31 Yes. 22:46:34 :) 22:46:39 fizzie, also ban him maybe? 22:46:40 -!- fizzie has set topic: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 22:46:40 fizzie: add +t to the modelock, then. 22:46:44 he uses the same ip all the time 22:46:48 Yes, that sounds like a good idea. 22:46:53 yeah. +1 on ban 22:47:03 -!- fizzie has set channel mode: +b *!n=checker@c-68-55-8-210.hsd1.md.comcast.net. 22:47:09 Let's start with something that exact. 22:47:13 sure 22:47:15 At least there's something to evade. 22:47:16 Why didn't you do that ages ago? 22:47:21 fizzie: I like our new permanent topic. 22:47:22 NO 22:47:24 DON'T BAN HIM 22:47:26 he's hilarious 22:47:29 you nazi 22:47:29 .. 22:47:31 nooooooooooooooooooooo 22:47:32 >:( 22:47:34 you suck. 22:47:37 trollwatching is fun. 22:47:40 he's used a different ident. 22:47:46 hey troll, come troll #esoteric-SANS-FASCISM 22:47:53 lol 22:48:00 ^^ 22:48:05 ehird, in that case 22:48:17 changing the topic is censorship 22:48:18 It's a fair chance he'll bother evading at least that particular ban. 22:48:22 preventing free speech 22:48:30 :P 22:49:18 AnMaster: IT IS. 22:49:24 troll please come back with a different ident 22:49:26 i miss you already. 22:49:42 you scared him away 22:49:45 bastard 22:49:54 -!- ehird_Im_here has joined. 22:50:01 hahahahahahah 22:50:04 finally +t 22:50:04 ? 22:50:05 Why hello, man who's ehird 22:50:06 LOLROFLMAO 22:50:07 sadddd 22:50:11 -!- ehird_Im_here has left (?). 22:50:16 Lame. 22:50:17 :DDD 22:50:19 -!- optbot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:50:23 won't need him for a while 22:50:25 Just ban him, he's not dedicated to entertain us. 22:50:34 NO. 22:50:39 he is my new lover. 22:50:42 :O 22:50:43 See, you got what you asked for. And it was even a different IP. 22:50:46 fizzie, hm he changed ip too 22:50:47 i know fizzie 22:50:48 ah yes 22:50:49 I love it 22:50:54 he's so dedicated<333 22:51:03 ehird, how did this start 22:51:10 it is way out of my scrollback by now 22:51:12 I got 4-5 WEP-encrypted networks ATM 22:51:17 AnMaster: he came in and asked if anyone was ther 22:51:18 I said yes 22:51:23 he changed the topic to tell us to get laid 22:51:23 and then? 22:51:24 and parted 22:51:28 wtf 22:51:29 then he started doing this, basically. 22:51:37 ehird, wonder why he started doing that 22:51:42 AnMaster: he wants us to use real languages, like C and Perl, apparently 22:51:48 -_- 22:51:50 and wants us to change our hobby to 'getting laid' 22:51:57 whereas he's content himself with 'trolling IRC channels' 22:52:04 ehird, well we do use such languages, to write interpreters in 22:52:14 ais523 already said that, 22:52:18 ok 22:53:05 I'm leaving now... The interest has passed. :-P 22:53:09 -!- alexholowczak has quit ("Leaving."). 22:53:47 I can understand the "you should use real languages" thing, but he/she seems so uncommonly... intense about it. 22:54:10 who was alexholowczak 22:54:10 ? 22:54:21 Well, he's a troll 22:54:33 er, no 22:54:36 AnMaster: from #chess 22:54:41 ais523 invited him to troll watch 22:54:44 oh 22:54:53 fizzie: he desperately cares that we are all laid 22:54:55 so kind 22:55:26 -!- kveiwekw has joined. 22:55:31 yeah i do motherfucker 22:55:33 -!- kveiwekw has left (?). 22:55:34 Well, mister troll, send me a picture and I'll see if I can give you some loving 22:55:50 hm, if I pull this lever on the office chair I'm in I do tilt backwards, so I guess that means that I'm almost lying back, thus "getting laid" 22:55:50 :D 22:55:57 lam 22:55:57 e 22:56:10 ehird, me or Slereah? 22:56:16 troll, let's have sex. then we'll -both- lose our virginity! 22:56:17 oh snap 22:56:19 AnMaster: you 22:56:25 ehird, thanks, I prefer those jokes 22:56:30 bad jokes you know 22:56:34 yes. we know. 22:56:43 ehird : Hey, we can share him. 22:56:49 Are you more of a top or a bottom? 22:56:50 no 22:56:51 he's all mine <3 22:56:54 What of you troll? 23:02:02 I would assume trolling would be more "fun" somewhere where people would take it more seriously. Trolling esoteric language enthusiasts about their tastes in programming languages is like trying to annoy a duck by pouring water on it (i.e. you need to do it a whole lot). 23:02:17 heh. 23:02:20 ha 23:02:28 He does not have the dedication or strength of a nigra. 23:02:42 i think Slereah is actually a troll 23:02:42 :d 23:02:44 :D 23:02:52 hm 23:03:09 Well, not here at least. 23:03:18 Sure, I may talk about gay sex. 23:03:26 But only for the eyes of augur. 23:03:29 fizzie, you verified that scientifically? About the duck I mean. 23:03:40 He once drowned a duck. 23:03:53 Slereah, maffia style? 23:03:54 :D 23:04:01 Cement duck 23:04:06 heh 23:04:14 duck punching! 23:04:31 Can a duck duck? 23:04:40 Judofyr: ITYM sex in the city space shuttle 23:05:01 for the hopeless outsiders: http://hackety.org/2007/08/10/myCompleteListOfSubstitutePhrasesForTheActWeNowKnowToBeMonkeypatching.html 23:05:02 Actually I spent a whole lot of time to think of a better simile, with no luck; had to go with the "like water off a duck's back" idiom. 23:05:09 ehird, huh, what is a "city space shuttle"? 23:05:19 AnMaster: I think it parses as ((sex in the city) space shuttle) 23:05:26 XD 23:05:31 ehird, that doesn't make much sense 23:05:42 more like, Attempting To Exercise Just A Fraction Of The Lawlessness And Lack Of Discipline Which We All First Learned From Why The Lucky Stiff 23:05:42 _why doesn't make much sense 23:05:53 ehird, unless "sex in the city" was a name or such. 23:05:58 which afaik it isn't? 23:06:45 hm googling seems to indicate it is a movie or something such, so ok, I guess that parsing would make sense then 23:06:57 still, I think _why is a genius! 23:07:11 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:07:15 (Curiously in Finnish it's "kuin vesi hanhen selĂ€stĂ€", lit. "like water off a geese's back"; I'm not sure why they've used a bit different waterfowl there.) 23:07:51 typography is annoying 23:07:59 * oerjan wonders if this means the same as norwegian "som vann pĂ„ gĂ„sa" (also goose) 23:08:26 oerjan: Like water off a duck's back; yes, I think it's the same thing. 23:08:34 fizzie, well that exists in Swedish too, except it uses goose instead 23:08:42 "som att hĂ€lla vatten pĂ„ en gĂ„s" 23:09:04 The Nordic countries seem all to be very goose-friendly. 23:09:12 what about English? 23:09:20 It's a duck in English. 23:09:20 doesn't something similar exists for there 23:09:37 no, we just have intensive knowledge in how to torture geese, and know that water doesn't work 23:09:59 fizzie, that depends on what it is in Denmark and on Iceland 23:10:02 oerjan, :D 23:10:16 what about Norway? :-( 23:10:25 Judofyr: already mentioned 23:10:26 Judofyr, that is what oerjan said 23:10:26 ... 23:10:37 oh 23:11:01 -!- kar8nga has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:11:07 norway is fake 23:11:10 danish: "som at slĂ„ vand pĂ„ en gĂ„s" 23:11:11 :O 23:11:21 ehird: how? 23:11:22 (says google hit) 23:11:25 it doesn't exist 23:11:33 darn you got us 23:11:35 oerjan, ok, then geese is in clear majority even if Icelandic (sp?) use something else 23:12:16 maybe geese were more common here? And ducks more common in UK? 23:12:18 or something such 23:12:24 I guess that could explain it 23:12:34 -!- kar8nga has joined. 23:12:48 we are just a giant petroleum platform in the north sea, with a giant hedge fund 23:13:20 oerjan, wait what, I visted Oslo this summer, looked at Fram and such things... 23:13:24 you mean that was fake? 23:13:30 or not located in Norway? 23:13:31 It's done with mirrors, I guess. 23:13:38 fizzie, really? 23:13:41 and magnets 23:13:53 _always_ magnets 23:13:58 that's our park area, it's inside the platform 23:14:15 fizzie, must be a lot of mirrors then, because I traveled by train from Sweden to Olso, and we seemed to travel for several hours through wilderness 23:14:25 I guess they did it when passing through one of the mirrors 23:14:26 err 23:14:29 one of the tunnels 23:14:54 Yes, then they run the train in a circle and use their anti-gravity thingamajicks to keep you from noticing. 23:15:04 you know, like just a km or 2 on the edge of Sweden, then through a long tunnel, and somehow using mirrors to make it not look like the tunnel was that long 23:15:07 It's the simplest way! 23:15:17 AnMaster: the wilderness is just CGI 23:15:18 fizzie, you still need a tiny strip of land there 23:15:34 oerjan, well it can't be before the first tunnel I think 23:15:50 so I'd say there is a tiny strip of real norway there 23:15:54 no 23:16:00 They do have a "wild goose chase" in English; I'm not sure we have an equivalent one here. 23:16:00 norway -does- -not- -exist- 23:16:11 fizzie, what does it mean? 23:16:15 oerjan, hm 23:16:19 um the train windows are actually plasma screens 23:16:34 oerjan, oh? really? They put them up during the travel then? 23:16:44 or somehow faked the view when inside Sweden? 23:16:56 they're just programmed to show a camera view while in sweden 23:17:04 oerjan, ah! 23:17:07 AnMaster: "a lengthy or useless pursuit or task whose execution requires inordinate resources and circuitous execution" is the wikipediaic definition. 23:17:19 fizzie, heh 23:18:11 And actually the interwebs tell me the Vietnamese water-duck idion is literally "like pouring water on a duck's head", instead of back. Their methods for animal torture are obviously different. 23:19:04 fizzie, link? 23:19:17 fizzie, we don't specify a part in Sweden 23:19:23 we just talk about the duck in generic 23:19:37 AnMaster: At the bottom of http://www.cjvlang.com/Birds/duck4.html 23:19:42 same for that Norwegian phrase oerjan used. 23:20:04 AnMaster: The Finnish variant mentions the back, like the English one. 23:20:15 and the danish doesn't either 23:20:21 right 23:20:29 * oerjan fails at guessing how to find the icelandic equivalent 23:20:40 oerjan, wikipedia? 23:23:55 ah, "aĂ° kasta vatni ĂĄ gĂŠs" 23:25:14 That's not in wiktionary's "Icelandic idioms / similes" lists, but those aren't very long anyway. Sounds goose-ish, anyway. 23:25:40 well i started by translating water and goose with wiktionary 23:25:47 then googled the combination 23:28:48 http://www.ms.is/Islenska/Fernuflug/Fernuflug-II/ordtok/ has it 23:29:21 s/kasta/skvetta/ 23:29:42 skvette is the norwegian verb too 23:30:50 oklosol: feeling particularly bright today? 23:30:53 I shouldn't be too surprised if they had something more common with a vaguely similar meaning; they are such purists. Well, maybe they don't mind idioms so much. 23:31:16 those are all good icelandic words 23:31:34 oerjan, Swedish has skvĂ€tta, which is close 23:31:47 (stökkva instead of skvetta was also mentioned) 23:32:49 and yes they are purists 23:34:20 they son't just use -son style names, they use -dĂłttir too 23:34:27 purists yeah... 23:36:15 moreover, they don't inherit them 23:36:21 indeed! 23:37:14 i've heard/read this weird story about an icelandic woman who moved to swedish but was allowed to keep her -dĂłttir name 23:37:25 the problem occured when she got a son... 23:37:26 moved to Swedish? 23:37:27 wtf 23:37:31 Moved to Sweden? 23:37:31 *sweden 23:37:35 right 23:37:41 but you can keep your name when you move 23:37:43 that is normal 23:37:55 I can't imagine it not being the case 23:38:00 yes. as i said the problem happened when she got a son. 23:38:14 oh right 23:38:15 I see 23:38:19 oerjan, what happened? 23:38:33 and the government insisted he had to have her surname 23:38:42 oerjan, what happened in the end? 23:39:04 i don't remember, it may be a fake anecdote for all i know 23:39:26 oerjan, it may be real, sounds like usual Swedish gov 23:39:41 incompetent if you want to put it nicely 23:40:15 the nothing is possible unless there is a rule allowing it kind, i assume 23:40:28 ha 23:40:34 oerjan, eh? 23:40:36 AnMaster: can't be more incompetent than the uk 23:40:41 s/the/then/? 23:40:54 ehird, I think around the same level probably 23:41:00 i expect that's global, at least in those countries that _have_ rule by law 23:41:07 AnMaster: almost impossible 23:41:11 do you guys have cctv everywhere? 23:41:56 ehird, no but we have the FRA law and the IPRED law, though those met a storm of protests in media so the gov is finally starting to retreat 23:42:15 ipred? 23:42:21 ah, intellectual property. 23:42:27 yeah 23:42:31 AnMaster: what about a national, required ID card scheme? 23:42:39 ehird, hm? 23:42:42 what do you mean? 23:42:49 AnMaster: a required government-assigned identification card for every citizen 23:42:56 "fascism" is an understatement 23:42:59 ehird, that you have to carry on you!? 23:43:01 AnMaster: yep 23:43:08 the gov is pushing it for 2012 23:43:10 ehird, how the heck would that work for child? 23:43:17 children* 23:43:30 AnMaster: they just tattoo it on, duh 23:43:31 AnMaster: i'm not sure it applies to minors 23:43:38 AnMaster: but, delegated to the parent 23:43:38 I assume 23:43:43 * oerjan ducks 23:44:01 ehird, well no we don't have that, not yet at least 23:44:06 with EU.. who knows 23:44:10 Maybe they could stick an implant in, that'd be the neat. 23:44:13 proposal: the id card is chip-implanted into their brains 23:44:15 fizzie: snap 23:44:23 it allows for easy termination of dissenting citizens! 23:44:38 hm 23:44:54 ehird, you know this sounds like 1984 somehow 23:44:58 those cameras too 23:45:02 Oh, definitely. 23:45:09 It _is_ an instruction manual, right? :-) 23:45:30 AnMaster: we also require ISPs to censor the internet 23:45:55 There is a crazy crank Finnish page about how the current Finnish ID card (which has a chip in it for RSA signatures or some-such, but is in no means obligatory) is a tool of the devil, the mark of the beast. 23:46:16 It's at http://www.varo666siru.net/ and has some English and Swedish content too. 23:46:25 ehird, I think the gov makes our ISPs block child porn sites, optional though, but with a loaded gun pointed at those who disagree 23:46:37 so only optional on the paper 23:46:51 AnMaster: The centralized UK provider that handles the block blocked this page recently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer [you might not want to click] 23:47:02 there was a load of hoohah about it recently 23:47:07 "When a person has this chip in them, they can be located in any part of the world and by a press of a button, be activated! This chip is microscopically small; it is of the size of the tip of an ordinary syringe needle." 23:47:11 in that it's not actually illegal 23:47:21 ehird, hm 23:47:24 what is it about then? 23:47:32 AnMaster: the album cover. 23:47:44 ehird, never heard of it, *loads page with tor* 23:47:47 [NSFW, NMS (Not Mind Safe)] 23:48:17 "The Bible says that at some point this ”biochip” will be offered to all people. It is better to die than to receive a mark that makes a human being a robot." 23:48:49 fizzie: where is this chip put? 23:49:47 fizzie, sounds like a mild version of time cube 23:49:53 "Under the skin." And the current chip in the ID card is a "prototype" for it. 23:49:59 oh damn, now I got eh... started... 23:50:17 fizzie: Ah. So it doesn't actually exist. AnMaster: Me? :P 23:50:22 EDUCATED STUPID 23:50:36 ehird: Oh, no, it already exists, it's just not yet forcibly installed in everyone. 23:50:44 "Today at least 6,000 people in Sweden have taken that mark and they are being followed all the time.Their location can be displayed on a TV screen any time." 23:50:51 (I'm not sure what Sweden has to do with this.) 23:50:53 fizzie: I mean, an under-the-skin chip exists? 23:50:59 Government-made? 23:51:15 Yes. It's a CIA project. Or something. 23:51:21 It's a bit confusing, to tell the truth. 23:51:28 Ah. So it doesn't actually exist. 23:51:29 fizzie, how is it related to 9/11? 23:51:39 and ufos? 23:52:03 under-the-skin chips probably exist, for medical uses 23:52:16 oerjan, pacemaker? 23:52:23 "Manipulated by the chip, one person became like a Nazi of former times, a superman bubbling over with zeal. When the stimulus was further slightly increased, everything was over." 23:52:33 that too 23:53:10 Anyway, this text was from a "an abridged version of a 3-hour speech of Dr. Colin Sanders, D. Sc. (Tech), USA"; and that site is collecting all kinds of stuff that says "micro-chip" in it as "evidence" that the Finnish government is planning some dastardly thing like this too. 23:53:29 i love crackpots. 23:53:45 On December 20, 2007, Scorpions played at a concert for the elite of Russia’s security forces in the Kremlin. The concert celebrated the 90th anniversary of the founding of the Cheka - predecessor of the KGB. Members of the audience included President Vladimir Putin. 23:53:51 -- about the band with the censored colour 23:53:55 if you believe literally in Revelation then you'd have to believe something like that 23:54:11 oerjan: if you literally believe in any part of the bible you have to be a crackpot by obligation... 23:54:46 oh there are probably sections that are literally true 23:54:59 maybe not a whole book though 23:55:10 (book of the bible) 23:55:12 oerjan: name one :P 23:55:21 Some parts of that page make me think it's parody, though. (My translation this time) "There are also rumours of so-called blue tooth, that would be used in the EU area [for passport/identification/etc]" which sounds too much like a joke, given... well, you know, bluetooth. 23:55:45 i bet the bears mauling the teenagers who called the guy baldie is true 23:55:48 it's too good not to be 23:55:56 fizzie: that's not much of a stretch for a crackpot 23:56:02 ehird: i didn't say i could say which are true. 23:56:54 * oerjan used that story to make a Jehovah's Witness give up on him once, ihrc 23:57:22 The basic gist seems to be that all kinds of (medical or other) implants make it possible to control (via satellites!!1) you like a robot. 23:58:17 (Gene-tweaked grain is also somehow related.) 23:58:30 i want a jehovah's witness to bother m 23:58:30 e 23:58:37 I'd come out with The Origin of the Species 23:58:43 and ask if I could help them 23:59:18 We used to get them semi-regularly (not more than something like once/year, though) in the university student village.