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00:11:00 <flexo> alright
00:11:05 <flexo> i can feel it now
00:11:13 <flexo> the ballmer peak is
00:11:16 <flexo> approaching
00:11:38 <flexo> MUSIC!
00:22:29 <AnMaster> flexo, Mozart? Haydn? Händel?
00:22:38 <flexo> was
00:22:39 <flexo> nein
00:22:47 <AnMaster> flexo, ?
00:22:50 <AnMaster> eh?
00:22:50 <flexo> yep?
00:22:53 <AnMaster> what?
00:22:56 <flexo> exactly
00:22:58 <flexo> was means what
00:22:58 <AnMaster> what is "nein"?
00:23:02 <flexo> nein is no
00:23:03 <flexo> :)
00:23:04 <AnMaster> ah
00:23:26 <flexo> i'd have thought everyone knows at least that much german heh
00:23:29 <AnMaster> flexo, hm, maybe Liszt? Bach?
00:23:32 <flexo> nope
00:23:47 <flexo> don't even know the former
00:23:53 <AnMaster> Chopin?
00:23:56 <flexo> nope
00:24:10 <AnMaster> um Beethoven?
00:24:13 <flexo> nope
00:24:14 <flexo> wait
00:24:18 <flexo> how did you manage to do that ?
00:24:27 <AnMaster> flexo, it is on my Swedish keyboard...
00:24:33 <flexo> oh, swedish. okay.
00:24:41 <AnMaster> flexo, why would it be hard anyway?
00:24:48 <flexo> on an american keyboard?
00:25:10 <AnMaster> well there is some meta key to enter char sequences I assume?
00:25:13 <AnMaster> like number
00:25:26 <AnMaster> U+220 or whatever
00:25:30 <flexo> these days?
00:25:34 <flexo> unicode. huh. yea. well. maybe.
00:25:35 <AnMaster> flexo, isn't there?
00:25:38 <flexo> i don't know?
00:25:44 <flexo> is on my german keyboard aswell ;)
00:25:54 <AnMaster> well ok
00:26:06 <AnMaster> anyway Germany had lots of great composers
00:26:12 <AnMaster> congrats on that
00:26:18 <AnMaster> flexo, anyway, what about Grieg?
00:26:30 <flexo> that's the second one i don't know
00:26:44 <AnMaster> flexo, which was the first one you didn't know?
00:26:50 <flexo> Liszt
00:26:52 <AnMaster> Also Grieg is from Norway
00:26:59 <AnMaster> flexo, ah Liszt was from France
00:27:02 <flexo> ah well
00:27:04 <flexo> you know
00:27:08 <flexo> german-france thingie
00:27:17 <flexo> :)
00:27:21 <AnMaster> Chopin from Poland(sp in English?)
00:27:28 <flexo> yes
00:27:46 <AnMaster> the rest were from Germany, though Händel spent most of his time in UK iirc
00:27:52 <flexo> oh fuck
00:27:57 <AnMaster> flexo, what?
00:28:18 <flexo> just drank out of my ashtray
00:28:23 <flexo> same glasses
00:28:23 <AnMaster> wtf
00:28:25 <flexo> same color
00:28:29 <AnMaster> you are an alcoholic
00:28:31 <flexo> (cuba libre in the right one)
00:28:31 <AnMaster> -_
00:28:36 <AnMaster> and a smoker
00:28:44 <AnMaster> I do not wish to talk to you any more
00:28:55 <flexo> :)
00:29:38 <AnMaster> flexo, just one question
00:29:42 <AnMaster> what music was it actually?
00:30:01 <AnMaster> Debussy? I assume it isn't something horrible like Wagner
00:30:05 <flexo> ...
00:30:27 <AnMaster> flexo, what?
00:30:38 <AnMaster> it *was* Wagner?
00:30:45 <flexo> no
00:30:50 <AnMaster> well
00:30:52 <AnMaster> what then?
00:30:55 <flexo> i kinda like that valkyrie ride though
00:31:03 <AnMaster> flexo, personally I can't stand it
00:31:19 <AnMaster> oh could be Vivaldi or Verdi too I assume
00:31:24 <flexo> but i agree with you that wagner sucks
00:31:42 <flexo> i suppose it's just the movie i associate it with i like
00:32:01 <AnMaster> No clue what movie that is. Anyway: What music?
00:32:17 <flexo> the movie - apocalypse now?
00:32:39 <flexo> i'm evading your question, don't you see it
00:32:41 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has changed nick to nice.
00:32:45 -!- nice has changed nick to KingOfKarlsruhe.
00:32:52 <AnMaster> flexo, well I'm not going to let you evade it any more
00:33:19 <flexo> well
00:33:26 <AnMaster> yes?
00:33:42 <flexo> you want as honenst answer?
00:34:31 <AnMaster> flexo, what could be that bad?
00:34:40 <flexo> yes
00:34:46 <flexo> it's somewhat emberassing
00:34:55 <AnMaster> flexo, not classical at all!?
00:34:59 <flexo> when i'm drunk i usually listen to some 70s or 80s disco music :)
00:35:03 <AnMaster> oh my
00:35:05 <AnMaster> right
00:35:06 <AnMaster> that bad
00:35:11 <AnMaster> no I don't want more details
00:35:14 <flexo> haha
00:35:50 <flexo> i still got that damn taste in my mouth
00:35:55 <AnMaster> Béla Bartók?
00:35:56 <AnMaster> or
00:35:59 <AnMaster> worst of all
00:36:02 <AnMaster> Schoenberg!?
00:36:10 <flexo> don't know neighter
00:36:32 <AnMaster> flexo, the latter is like wagner, but worse
00:36:48 <AnMaster> also doesn't it just taste cigarettes?
00:36:57 <AnMaster> I mean if you smoke them, you shouldn't notice it anyway
00:38:49 <flexo> no
00:38:56 <flexo> it tastes like cigarettes, but worse
00:39:12 <flexo> like solluted cigarettes
00:39:15 <flexo> with some ash added
00:39:21 <flexo> probably rather toxic too
00:39:26 <flexo> but i didn't swallow
00:39:29 <flexo> i suppose i'll be fine
00:50:23 -!- oerjan has joined.
00:51:37 * oerjan decides the web solution for Trondheim's new electronic bus cards sucks hedgehogs through a garden hose
00:52:15 <oerjan> WHY THE HECK CAN'T THEY FIND A WAY TO JUST SEND ME AN ORDINARY BILL, SAY EVERY 3 MONTHS
00:52:30 <oerjan> _that_ would have been an actual improvement
01:01:00 <oerjan> <ehird> i mean, for something to be an actual... thing it has to be non-norm
01:01:14 <oerjan> conclusion: heterosexuals don't really exist
01:05:10 <oerjan> <ehird> it's a one hour
01:05:26 <oerjan> possibly also, an hour one
01:06:43 <oerjan> <ehird> 23:31 <oklopol> read that as "sleep eat haskell die"
01:06:56 <oerjan> oklopol, you too?
01:08:58 <oerjan> <AnMaster> flexo, ah Liszt was from France
01:09:05 <oerjan> wait, i thought he was hungarian...
01:09:15 <AnMaster> oerjan, oh must have typoed that
01:09:46 <AnMaster> oerjan, you are right, but he worked a lot in Paris
01:09:49 <AnMaster> that is why I mixed it up
01:10:44 <oerjan> you are still on positive karma for knowing Grieg was norwegian ;D
01:11:05 <AnMaster> oerjan, of course I know of him, and I love the Peer Gynt suites
01:11:26 <flexo> hmm
01:11:29 <AnMaster> and some of his other music, don't remember the opus numbers/names off hand
01:11:43 <flexo> metal being the contiuation of classical music i suppose i'm allowed to hear that
01:11:45 <oerjan> ah yes i remember a previous discussion
01:11:49 <AnMaster> oerjan, what I *don't* like is that Sigurd Jolsefar(sp?) march he made
01:12:07 <AnMaster> oerjan, "Från Hollbergs tid" is nice, again that is probably a Swedishism
01:12:14 <oerjan> flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture!
01:12:24 <flexo> :(
01:12:29 <AnMaster> oerjan, agreed
01:13:15 <AnMaster> oerjan, anyway, Grieg is IMO one of the all time best, together with Vivaldi, Händel and Mozart
01:13:33 <AnMaster> Haydn and Delius are both near the top too
01:13:57 * oerjan should point out he is no expert
01:13:59 <AnMaster> Beethoven just below that
01:14:07 <AnMaster> oerjan, oh? what do you listen to then?
01:14:27 <oerjan> i nearly never play music myself
01:14:39 * oerjan prefers silence
01:14:41 <AnMaster> also I plan to do like the US does, they declare something "terrorism" or "unamerican"
01:15:36 <AnMaster> I now declare all rock, metal, rap and country western music to be terrorism and a threat to the world. It is also Unanmasterian
01:15:56 <AnMaster> Lets declare war on rock, metal, rap and country western!
01:16:02 <AnMaster> oerjan, what do you think?
01:16:09 <oerjan> oh and it's Jorsalfar, the man that is, don't know about the piece
01:16:30 <AnMaster> oerjan, I think it is the same, since it is about him
01:16:39 <oerjan> wait a minute i _do_ like rock and country
01:16:48 <AnMaster> oh also rock, metal, rap and country western are now declared to no longer be music
01:16:55 <AnMaster> oerjan, what? really?
01:16:56 <AnMaster> country!?
01:17:07 <AnMaster> oerjan, you need therapy
01:17:15 <oerjan> and a few raps, and maybe a couple metals even
01:17:25 <AnMaster> <oerjan> flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture!
01:17:29 <AnMaster> you said it yourself
01:17:34 <oerjan> that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason
01:17:36 <AnMaster> write-once memory
01:17:49 <oerjan> no, but there are always a couple of exceptions to everything :D
01:17:50 <AnMaster> oerjan, what reason then?
01:19:17 <AnMaster> oerjan, anyway it is weird Germany produced so many famous composers
01:19:20 <AnMaster> don't you agree?
01:19:24 <oerjan> sorry, the green goblin behind my ear says i may not answer that
01:19:31 <AnMaster> oerjan, eh?
01:19:40 <AnMaster> that just made *no* sense whatsoever
01:19:41 <oerjan> <AnMaster> oerjan, what reason then?
01:19:45 <AnMaster> ah
01:19:57 <AnMaster> well
01:20:03 <AnMaster> it make almost no sense still
01:20:29 <oerjan> <oerjan> that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason
01:20:37 <oerjan> <AnMaster> oerjan, you need therapy
01:20:43 <AnMaster> well right
01:20:45 <AnMaster> ok
01:20:48 <AnMaster> makes sense
01:20:58 <AnMaster> oerjan, now throw away the goblin and answer the question
01:21:20 <AnMaster> oerjan, err
01:21:22 <AnMaster> out of order
01:21:27 <AnMaster> <oerjan> wait a minute i _do_ like rock and country
01:21:32 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> oh also rock, metal, rap and country western are now declared to no longer be music
01:21:32 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> oerjan, what? really?
01:21:32 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> country!?
01:21:32 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> oerjan, you need therapy
01:21:32 <AnMaster> <oerjan> and a few raps, and maybe a couple metals even
01:21:33 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> <oerjan> flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture!
01:21:39 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> you said it yourself
01:21:40 <AnMaster> <oerjan> that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason
01:21:40 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> write-once memory
01:21:41 <AnMaster> <AnMaster> oerjan, what reason then?
01:21:44 <AnMaster> oerjan, see that ^
01:21:53 <AnMaster> you must have a lot of lag
01:21:59 <AnMaster> hm 1.32
01:22:04 <oerjan> no, i just don't type fast
01:22:22 <oerjan> or think fast for that matter
01:23:57 <oerjan> but basically don't assume i'm answering the _last_ thing you say when you keep saying several things in a row...
01:25:13 <oerjan> oh and maybe metal shouldn't be totally banned but there should be some obligatory sound-proofing there... :D
01:27:17 <oerjan> <flexo> just drank out of my ashtray
01:27:20 <oerjan> O_O
01:28:17 <flexo> yea
01:28:22 <flexo> i tell you
01:28:24 <flexo> doesn't taste good
01:28:32 * oerjan believes that
01:28:42 <flexo> the problem is, that cuba libre has the same color was water and cigarettes
01:28:55 <flexo> *as
01:30:08 <AnMaster> flexo, possible solutions: a) Check shape of object before moving to mouth b) stop smoking c) stop drinking alcohol d) stop smoking and stop drinking alcohol e) Both a and d
01:30:17 <AnMaster> I suggest e
01:30:22 <flexo> i suggest a
01:30:35 <AnMaster> flexo, e is healthier?
01:30:43 <AnMaster> especially smoking is bad
01:30:44 <flexo> so?
01:30:48 <flexo> yea i know
01:30:55 <flexo> that's why i have a nicotine patch on my arm
01:30:57 * oerjan suggests (d), just because
01:30:58 <flexo> :)
01:31:11 <flexo> (because i'm in the process of quitting)
01:31:15 <flexo> but i'm drinking, so
01:31:17 <flexo> i'm smoking too
01:31:31 <AnMaster> flexo, what about others too? Think of people with asthma. Smokers are a pain to us
01:31:42 <AnMaster> cause issues as soon as you are outside
01:31:47 <oerjan> ah, new year resolution?
01:31:57 <flexo> oerjan: no, my wisdom teeth got ripped out a few days ago
01:32:07 <oerjan> eek
01:32:07 <AnMaster> flexo, why?
01:32:07 <flexo> bought the patches to overcome the days i was not allowed to smoke
01:32:18 <flexo> then decided to quit smoking completly
01:32:21 <AnMaster> good
01:32:25 <flexo> that's why i have that patch on my arm right now
01:32:28 <AnMaster> now actually stop
01:32:31 <flexo> but today i started smoking again
01:32:34 <flexo> and the patch is still there
01:32:35 <AnMaster> flexo, throw away the ashtray
01:32:39 <flexo> i suppose that's even better
01:32:59 <flexo> yea well. i'm addicted.
01:33:00 <AnMaster> flexo, it will solve both b and the actual issue
01:33:14 <AnMaster> flexo, go somewhere where there are no cigarettes
01:33:19 <oerjan> actually i recall smelling the ashtray has been suggested for helping to quit
01:33:21 <AnMaster> say for a mountain hike
01:33:23 <flexo> i doubt there is such a place
01:33:31 <oerjan> tasting should be even better, no?
01:33:33 <flexo> oerjan: drinking it doesn't so i don't buy it
01:33:39 <AnMaster> flexo, what about north Canada?
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01:33:45 <flexo> AnMaster: way too cold i think
01:34:05 <AnMaster> flexo, Ok... Australian outback and 500 km to the next human?
01:34:18 <flexo> yea, that sounds more like it
01:34:25 <AnMaster> flexo, maybe a bit too warm
01:34:35 <flexo> probably
01:34:40 <flexo> me living in germany and all
01:34:44 <AnMaster> ah
01:34:53 <AnMaster> flexo, in Europe you'll have a hard time
01:34:57 <flexo> a little warmer than munich would be nice though
01:35:00 <AnMaster> finding lonely places
01:35:21 <oerjan> a place with nice temperature and humidity where no one actually lives - yeah right :D
01:35:27 <flexo> hehe
01:35:51 <AnMaster> oerjan, may exist if it is 1) small 2) hard to reach or inconvenient in some other way
01:35:55 <oerjan> maybe a remote island
01:35:58 <flexo> electricity and internet connectivity (say gprs coverage) would be nice too
01:36:00 <AnMaster> say, mountains
01:36:03 <AnMaster> oerjan, that too
01:36:09 <oerjan> mountains are usually cold
01:36:12 <AnMaster> flexo, then you are out of luck
01:36:19 <flexo> alright then
01:36:24 <flexo> no way around smoking
01:36:28 <AnMaster> oerjan, well but if you go near enough to the equator you offset that
01:36:33 <AnMaster> flexo, stop it
01:36:35 <AnMaster> just stop it
01:36:47 <flexo> can't. addiction.
01:36:55 <flexo> probably a genetic issue tue.
01:36:57 <AnMaster> flexo, stop drinking then instead?
01:37:02 <flexo> no?!
01:37:04 <AnMaster> flexo, why did you start at all?
01:37:15 <flexo> oh, that's a funny story
01:37:21 <AnMaster> flexo, and get professional help
01:37:26 <flexo> you know, i spent some time in a mental hospital when i was 16yo
01:37:33 <AnMaster> ouch
01:37:34 <flexo> as i was 16 i was allowed to smoke
01:37:40 <flexo> but the 14 and 15yo's were not
01:37:47 <flexo> so i had to go with a cigarette for fire
01:37:58 <AnMaster> err why fire?
01:37:58 <flexo> because you know, you are now allowed to have a lighter in closed mental hospital
01:38:02 <flexo> could set yourself on fire
01:38:11 * AnMaster backs away from flexo
01:38:16 <flexo> anyway
01:38:20 <AnMaster> 1) why would you want a lighter at all?
01:38:28 <flexo> to light cigarettes?
01:38:32 <oerjan> in case he wanted to BURN something, silly
01:38:36 <flexo> the point is those 14yo and 15yos were smokers
01:38:38 <AnMaster> oerjan, oh
01:38:49 <flexo> and they needed me to get the fire
01:38:55 <flexo> that's why i started smoking
01:38:59 <AnMaster> flexo, -_-
01:39:26 <flexo> "blaze"
01:39:29 <flexo> that's the actual term
01:39:34 <flexo> they needed me to get the "blaze"
01:39:46 <flexo> you know, as in a lit cigarette, so you can pass the blaze?
01:40:27 <flexo> i've been a chainsmoker ever since
01:40:36 <flexo> tried to quit a couple of times
01:40:41 <flexo> never worked out
01:40:49 <flexo> but i suppose that was to be expected
01:40:55 <AnMaster> shudder
01:40:58 <flexo> people with depressions often smoke
01:41:06 <flexo> and actually they are not advised to stop
01:41:13 <flexo> because it causes a serotonine drop
01:41:30 <Sgeo> Yesterday's Mezzacotta was pretty good imo
01:41:30 <oerjan> good i never stopped smoking then
01:41:35 <oerjan> even better i never started
01:41:49 <AnMaster> you mean... because they would live longer and cause more expenses for the country?
01:41:50 <AnMaster> :P
01:41:52 <oerjan> Sgeo: the main one?
01:41:57 <AnMaster> flexo, that is the real reason
01:42:00 <Sgeo> hm?
01:42:09 <Sgeo> Yes
01:42:12 <oerjan> mezzacotta now has _four_ comics on it
01:42:18 <AnMaster> oerjan, it does?
01:42:25 <flexo> AnMaster: i suppose that's a joke, because although you might have an argument there, it's someone messed up
01:42:28 <oerjan> well, for a certain definition of comics
01:42:32 <flexo> *somewhat
01:42:48 <AnMaster> flexo, well since it is for someone messed up it may be somewhat messed up?
01:42:55 <AnMaster> oerjan, I don't count invalid link that
01:43:06 <flexo> the medical costs of smoking-related diseases outweight the care for the few years we live shorter
01:43:10 <oerjan> Comments on a Postcard, Lightning Made of Owls, and Square root of minus Garfield
01:43:26 <AnMaster> flexo, ah hm
01:43:32 <oerjan> + the main random one
01:43:38 <flexo> those people with ps
01:43:42 <flexo> with..
01:43:44 <flexo> well.
01:43:49 <flexo> whats the term?
01:44:00 <flexo> crazy people, right
01:44:02 <Corun> Imaginary Garfield Squared = minus garfield = minus train station field = MINOTAUR TRAINING FIELD
01:44:13 <AnMaster> oerjan, "Square root of minus Garfield"?
01:44:15 * AnMaster looks
01:44:23 <Sgeo> Is Prevx CSI a good anti-rootkit?
01:44:38 <Corun> What do I win?
01:44:38 <flexo> so. crazy people who manage to end up so old that they are actually reaching the avg. life expentency (sp! :) for smokers are probably not an issue after all
01:44:44 <Corun> Please tell me it's minotaurs
01:45:08 <flexo> (my reasoning over there is seriously flawed and makes no sense)
01:45:20 <AnMaster> oerjan, do you understand it?
01:45:24 <AnMaster> oerjan, I *dont*
01:45:31 * AnMaster reads about
01:45:54 <flexo> oerjan: did you ask me why my wisdom teeth were pulled out?
01:46:04 <oerjan> AnMaster: it's sort of various variations of Garfield
01:46:06 <oerjan> flexo: no
01:46:10 <flexo> oh okay
01:46:17 <AnMaster> oerjan, ah
01:46:23 <oerjan> <oerjan> eek
01:46:43 <flexo> okay
01:46:58 <oerjan> all of the new comics are collaborative, so there is a lot of variation
01:46:59 <flexo> i think the alcohol is beginning to .. a.. e.. a.. ... hm.. *ffect me.
01:47:10 <oerjan> affect
01:47:19 <flexo> why? explain it me please.
01:47:21 <flexo> i think i never got it.
01:47:26 <flexo> +to
01:47:46 <oerjan> effect is not a verb much
01:47:58 <flexo> much?
01:48:14 <oerjan> much = covering my ass in case i'm wrong
01:48:20 <flexo> it's always affect then?
01:48:25 <flexo> i thought they both have a different meaning
01:48:39 <oerjan> actually you might be able to effect a change
01:48:42 <flexo> a similar, but different one
01:48:54 <flexo> o.O
01:49:32 <flexo> writing and reading english is getting harder and harder
01:49:42 <flexo> i'm rather drunk now
01:49:50 <oerjan> to affect is to influence, more or less
01:49:56 <flexo> you know, i'd so much like to go on babbeling in german instead
01:49:58 <oerjan> while effect would be to cause
01:50:02 <flexo> ah
01:50:08 <flexo> so both verbs exist actually?
01:50:35 <oerjan> i'm pulling this out of thin air. read a dictionary for official explanations :D
01:50:46 <flexo> na
01:50:48 <flexo> i'm fine with that
01:50:54 <flexo> won't remember a thing tomorrow anyway
01:50:57 <oerjan> (doesn't mean it's wrong though, just based on my intuition)
01:51:11 <oerjan> that's convenient
01:51:22 <flexo> i think i've passed way beyong the ballmer peak by now :/
01:51:24 <oerjan> more chocolate mocha beans ->
01:51:42 <flexo> so no coding tonight
01:51:46 <flexo> how unfortunate
01:52:05 <oerjan> it seems i have picked up an addiction to them over christmas
01:52:22 <flexo> oh damnit
01:52:43 <flexo> i just figured that i'm way too drunk to "type" with the stylus on my smartphone thingie
01:52:51 <oerjan> heh
01:53:01 <flexo> no drunk-sms-sending then :/
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01:57:08 <oerjan> <flexo> you know, i'd so much like to go on babbeling in german instead
01:57:37 <oerjan> Deutschbabbelung ist am strengsten verboten. Bitte kein gefingerpoken!
01:58:14 <oerjan> Aber schnell!
02:00:10 <oerjan> *sigh*
02:00:25 <oerjan> IWC still has those bandwidth problems it seems
02:06:00 -!- Corun has changed nick to OneSadCookie.
02:07:38 <oerjan> OneSadCookie: i don't think there are any minotaurs in Square root of minus Garfield yet, but you are of course free to send in a strip suggestion with one, it is a collaborative comic after all :D
02:08:01 <OneSadCookie> Mmm.
02:08:04 -!- OneSadCookie has changed nick to Corun.
02:08:33 <Corun> Mmm, minotaurs.
02:08:41 <Corun> Best served raw.
02:08:54 <Corun> They're aMAZEing.
02:09:26 <oerjan> just make it clear which one is the dinner
02:13:52 <AnMaster> oerjan, "Square root of minus Garfield" rocks
02:17:49 <Slereah> Imaginary Garfield? :o
02:19:43 <oerjan> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/
02:20:21 <oerjan> the last one is not one of the best, though
02:27:26 * Sgeo suddenly wants to take the color average of every strip he knows of
02:29:06 <oerjan> i don't know if it would work as well as with garfield though
02:29:49 <oerjan> it really brings out how unimaginative garfield's drawing is
02:30:19 * oerjan guesses that was a spoiler, of sorts
02:30:20 <Sgeo> What's with Garfield being a number?
02:30:31 <oerjan> Garfield divided by Garfield
02:30:39 <oerjan> = 1
02:31:33 <oerjan> recall this whole series was inspired by Garfield minus Garfield, another parody
02:31:51 <Sgeo> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=14 is pretty cool
02:36:24 <Sgeo> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=8 "And there was no cheating".. changing the words isn't cheating?
02:38:02 <oerjan> i think it means the choice of strips was really random
02:39:47 <Sgeo> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=5 the original for the events actually made me laugh
02:40:01 <Sgeo> That sqrt(-garfield) didn't
02:41:20 * Sgeo wtfs at http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=4
02:41:51 <oerjan> you have to have read Dinosaur Comics a bit to get the point of 5 i think
02:42:07 <AnMaster> err no?
02:42:16 <AnMaster> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=4 makes perfect sense
02:42:36 <AnMaster> and I don't read Dinosaur Comics
02:42:46 <oerjan> i said _5_
02:42:57 <AnMaster> oh right
02:43:04 <AnMaster> oerjan, also I'm waiting for the "this is some character art I have been working on"
02:43:07 <AnMaster> :P
02:43:18 <AnMaster> oh and xkcd parody
02:43:20 <oerjan> er what?
02:43:33 <AnMaster> oerjan, irregular made parodies of both
02:43:37 <AnMaster> don't you remember?
02:43:39 * oerjan doesn't get the first one
02:43:46 <AnMaster> oerjan, misc theme
02:43:52 <AnMaster> don't remember number
02:44:00 <AnMaster> anyway it was funny in irregular
02:44:06 <AnMaster> thanks to the annotation
02:45:37 <flexo> i managed to use my phone after all
02:45:48 <Sgeo> AnMaster, When I said I WTF at 4, I meant at the original Garfield
02:46:09 <flexo> got me a chick for 24.-25.
02:46:13 <flexo> alcohol FTW
02:46:38 <AnMaster> what is the message in http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=17 ?, irregular forum says there is a real message in that
02:46:58 <oerjan> yes there was
02:47:05 <oerjan> it was something boring though
02:47:10 <AnMaster> oerjan, I don't know what the original comic was
02:47:22 <AnMaster> oerjan, can't search them all
02:47:35 <AnMaster> so this is effectively a one-time-pad style crypto for me
02:47:37 <oerjan> i found it by searching for things with clown in them
02:47:56 <AnMaster> hm ok
02:49:29 <oerjan> hm right google wasn't much help, had to find a garfield site with text search
02:51:00 <oerjan> http://garfield.nfshost.com/?s=clown+shirt
02:51:23 <oerjan> (it was easier this time since i remembered the word "shirt" was in it :D)
02:52:46 <AnMaster> I wonder if they will do that theme again?
02:52:52 <AnMaster> I mean
02:52:56 <AnMaster> crypto
02:53:25 <oerjan> incidentally i _did_ manage to get the small part with "garfield" and "hmmmm" without knowing the original strip
02:53:32 <AnMaster> well
02:53:33 <AnMaster> yes
02:53:43 <oerjan> (was easy to guess the first, and then the second fell out)
02:54:01 <oerjan> i'm sure someone with more experience could have done most of it
02:54:10 * AnMaster writes a script
02:55:23 <AnMaster> in erlang
02:55:45 * oerjan used haskell, naturally ;D
02:58:40 <AnMaster> oh case
03:00:09 <AnMaster> oerjan, is this diff mod length of alphabet?
03:00:22 <AnMaster> I get readings off the scale
03:00:26 <AnMaster> ;P
03:01:00 <oerjan> you have to rotate, naturally
03:01:10 <AnMaster> damn yes
03:01:45 <AnMaster> oerjan, what is the length of the English alphabet now again?
03:01:50 <oerjan> 26
03:01:55 <AnMaster> right
03:02:07 <oerjan> recall that rot-13 is exactly half
03:02:18 <oerjan> that's why it's self-inverse
03:03:14 <lament> OOOOOOOOOOH that's why.
03:04:13 <AnMaster> 8> io:format("~s~n", [garfield_code:decrypt("Notice anything different about me, Garfield?", "WBMXUW ZWSQIBBV XFUXYZDCO SGUAI EY, APVKLTPI?")]).
03:04:13 <AnMaster> ^S^O^R^R^Z^Y ^T^W^A^S^N^O^Z^T^W^O^R^T^H^Y^O^U^Z^R^E^F^F^O^Z^R^T^Z^Z^T^O^D^E^C^O^D^E^Z
03:04:13 <AnMaster> ok
03:04:14 <AnMaster> wtf?
03:04:29 <AnMaster> oerjan, is this not ascii value at the end?
03:05:19 <AnMaster> oh
03:05:20 <AnMaster> right
03:06:07 <Sgeo> What's the ^Zs?
03:06:16 <oerjan> you need to add 64 or 96 to get it alphabetic, and the non-letters are just junk
03:06:25 <AnMaster> ah
03:06:58 <AnMaster> oerjan, oerjan interesting the escape codes almost match,...
03:07:00 <AnMaster> "IMSORRZYITWASNOZTWORTHYOUZREFFOZRTZZTODECODEZ"
03:07:02 <AnMaster> anywya
03:07:05 <AnMaster> Z == space
03:07:08 <AnMaster> I think
03:07:09 * AnMaster fixes
03:07:32 <oerjan> that's because control-codes 0-31 are printed as ^+ corresponding letter
03:08:11 <AnMaster> yes
03:08:24 <AnMaster> 17> io:format("~p~n", [garfield_code:decrypt("Notice anything different about me, Garfield?", "WBMXUW ZWSQIBBV XFUXYZDCO SGUAI EY, APVKLTPI?")]).
03:08:24 <AnMaster> "IMSORR YITWASNO TWORTHYOU REFFO RT, TODECODE?"
03:08:25 <oerjan> ^Z corresponds to when you have equal codes in the texts, which happens for the non-letters
03:08:27 <AnMaster> much better
03:08:39 <AnMaster> ouch
03:08:42 <AnMaster> that hurts
03:09:05 <oerjan> i _told_ you it was a boring text :D
03:09:27 <AnMaster> yes
03:10:51 * oerjan still doesn't get what iwc comic AnMaster connects with "this is some character art I have been working on"
03:11:06 <oerjan> and i've looked through most of the misc parodies now
03:11:34 <oerjan> nor do i recall the original comic
03:12:14 <AnMaster> oerjan, early one
03:12:28 <oerjan> ok i started a bit into it
03:12:38 * oerjan goes backwards in misc
03:13:26 <oerjan> bah IWC has trouble again
03:13:30 <AnMaster> indeed
03:13:42 <Sgeo> Is Mezzacotta down?
03:13:57 <oerjan> i don't think those are the same site
03:14:22 <Sgeo> Mezzacotta was being slow
03:14:22 <oerjan> i'm looking at Irregular Webcomic Archive
03:15:18 <AnMaster> "IM SORRY IT WAS NOT WORTH YOUR EFFORT TO DECODE THIS BUT YOU HAVE THE SATISFACTION OF KNOWING SOME THING THAT OTHERS DO NOT TAKE PRIDE IN THAT SIGNED THE GOON"
03:15:20 <AnMaster> wtf :P
03:15:34 <AnMaster> Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'iwc.irregularwebcomic.net' (4) in /home/.bacidryer/dmmaus/iwc/comic.php on line 28
03:15:34 <AnMaster> A database error occurred. This should be temporary. Please try again later. Do not notify me about this - there's nothing I can do about it.
03:15:34 <AnMaster> Can't connect to MySQL server on 'iwc.irregularwebcomic.net' (4)
03:15:35 <AnMaster> also
03:16:51 <AnMaster> oerjan, no 1463
03:16:51 <oerjan> actually database errors have sometimes happened before. it may not be the bandwidth problem of late.
03:16:53 <AnMaster> not that early
03:17:07 <AnMaster> oerjan, yet you claimed you couldn't find it?
03:17:36 <oerjan> i still cannot. 1463 you said?
03:17:41 <AnMaster> oerjan, yes
03:18:08 <AnMaster> oerjan, I just pressed show previous 5 a few times, took me one minute to find after the website issues stopped
03:18:11 <oerjan> oh.
03:18:12 <AnMaster> a few seconds ago
03:18:24 <AnMaster> oerjan, you fail at search
03:18:29 <oerjan> i didn't notice the text in the image before
03:18:43 <AnMaster> you fail at reading too
03:19:00 <oerjan> no, my writing is _perferc_ i tell you!
03:19:13 <AnMaster> hah
03:19:22 <AnMaster> oerjan, I said reading, not writing
03:19:24 <AnMaster> and it isn't
03:19:25 <AnMaster> ;P
03:19:32 <oerjan> you fail at humor again
03:19:40 <oerjan> well nearly
03:19:44 <AnMaster> oerjan, I detected your humor
03:19:48 <AnMaster> you may notice that
03:20:09 <AnMaster> also I need to sleep
03:20:17 <oerjan> actually i did use next 5 so my search was excellent
03:20:32 <oerjan> no you don't. reject your sleep addiction!
03:56:02 <AnMaster> ehird, http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Lib/antigravity.py?rev=66902&view=markup <-- :D
03:57:13 <Slereah> Heh.
03:57:46 <AnMaster> Slereah, http://imgs.xkcd.com/blag/googlecopy.jpg
04:02:05 <Slereah> Let me get my pen.
04:02:23 <AnMaster> Slereah, why?
04:02:40 <AnMaster> anyway night
04:05:21 <Slereah> bye.
04:08:58 <oerjan> :D
04:10:55 <AnMaster> wait
04:10:56 <AnMaster> what
04:11:03 <AnMaster> google changed favicon?
04:11:04 <AnMaster> again?
04:11:08 <Slereah> Yeah
04:11:10 <Slereah> To something ugly
04:11:11 <AnMaster> since when?
04:11:33 <Slereah> Iunno, yesterday I think
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07:12:52 <oklopol> AnMaster: flexo, what about others too? Think of people with asthma. Smokers are a pain to us <<< it's the other way around
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07:29:31 <oklopol> lol @ averaged garfield
07:42:50 <oklopol> http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2 <<< i love it when he turns
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08:55:41 <Mony> hi
08:56:17 <oerjan> ho
09:00:36 <Slereah> Hollo mona
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10:20:09 <AnMaster> haha, this is just awesome, check the image text at the image near http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Munroe#Other_projects
10:20:19 <AnMaster> [citation needed] :D
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12:38:00 <AnMaster> I just had an idea
12:38:09 <AnMaster> writing a program directly in llvm asm
12:38:27 <AnMaster> silly yes
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14:22:18 <AnMaster> hm
14:22:21 <AnMaster> sigh
14:22:30 <AnMaster> ehird, where is gcc-bf now when eso-std is down?
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16:16:59 <flexo> AnMaster: no, no, you got me all wrong
16:17:08 <flexo> checking the shape wouldn't have helped me
16:17:15 <flexo> as i used a glass as an ashtray
16:17:19 <flexo> (a glass filled with water)
16:17:33 <AnMaster> flexo, you said it would have helped
16:17:34 <AnMaster> back then
16:17:38 <flexo> i know
16:17:39 <flexo> i was drunk
16:17:47 <flexo> i thought you meant something like
16:17:58 <flexo> "check contents of glass for cigarettes before moving to mouth"
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16:23:25 <ehird> 06:22:18 <AnMaster> hm
16:23:26 <ehird> 06:22:21 <AnMaster> sigh
16:23:27 <ehird> 06:22:30 <AnMaster> ehird, where is gcc-bf now when eso-std is down?
16:23:30 <ehird> ais523's harddrive
16:23:32 <AnMaster> aha
16:23:36 <ehird> until I get it back up
16:23:41 <AnMaster> right
16:24:12 <AnMaster> ehird, I was working on making the fuzz test script for cfunge a bit more portable
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16:24:28 <ehird> yay
16:27:34 <AnMaster> ehird, one thing that I will need, what are the exit codes on OS X for programs that end due to 1) SIGALRM 2) SIGSEGV 3) SIGABRT
16:27:51 <ehird> the same as BSD, almost certainly.
16:28:04 <AnMaster> ehird, hm ok. will check there then.
16:28:22 <ehird> 16:11:00 <flexo> alright
16:28:22 <ehird> 16:11:05 <flexo> i can feel it now
16:28:24 <ehird> 16:11:13 <flexo> the ballmer peak is
16:28:26 <ehird> 16:11:16 <flexo> approaching
16:28:28 <ehird> 16:11:38 <flexo> MUSIC!
16:28:30 <ehird> 16:22:29 <AnMaster> flexo, Mozart? Haydn? Händel?
16:28:32 <ehird> the best part is that you were absolutely serious :D
16:28:44 <AnMaster> ehird, and you fail at unicode
16:28:50 <ehird> no
16:28:51 <ehird> the logs do.
16:28:54 <ehird> just like they fail at UTC.
16:29:14 <AnMaster> ehird, what logs? your local logs or tunes logs?
16:29:22 <ehird> tunes
16:29:24 <AnMaster> ah ok
16:29:28 <ehird> 16:28:44 <AnMaster> I do not wish to talk to you any more
16:29:39 <AnMaster> ehird, sadly I didn't manage to stop
16:29:39 <AnMaster> ;P
16:29:41 <flexo> yea that was mean
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16:40:59 <ehird> 17:36:33 <AnMaster> flexo, stop it
16:40:59 <ehird> 17:36:35 <AnMaster> just stop it
16:41:04 <ehird> I see you've never been addicted to anything, ever.
16:41:50 <Slereah> Have you?
16:42:01 <ehird> no.
16:42:49 <AnMaster> ehird, hm the *bsd exit codes for signals are the same as the linux ones
16:43:15 <AnMaster> wonder if posix spec this? I haven't been able to find out, even though I _did_ RFTM
16:44:08 <flexo> whats a "signal exit code"?
16:44:31 <flexo> you mean the exitcode returned by the default signal handler of the libc?
16:45:52 <ehird> AnMaster: do you like the composition "Leck mich im Arsch" by Mozart? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mich_im_Arsch)
16:46:46 <AnMaster> ehird, I haven't listened to it, so I can't answer that
16:47:11 <ehird> AnMaster: ok, what about "Leck mir den Arsch fein recht schön sauber"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leck_mir_den_Arsch_fein_recht_schön_sauber
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16:48:28 <AnMaster> again I haven't listened to it, and checking the wikipedia article I notice "In 1988, Wolfgang Plath, an editor of the Bärenreiter Neue Mozart-Ausgabe (NMA), presented evidence that the composer of this piece, as well as K.234/382c, was in fact Wenzel Trnka von Krzowitz (1739-1791)."
16:49:16 <AnMaster> ehird, anyway are you trying to make some sort of point?
16:49:25 <ehird> perhaps.
16:49:29 <ehird> perhaps.
16:49:32 <AnMaster> I never claimed I like everything by some composer, or dislike everything
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16:53:27 <AnMaster> Eine kleine Nachtmusik, Piano Sonata No. 11, Violin Concerto No. 1 are some examples I have listened to, and know I like
16:53:36 <ehird> WHOOOOOOOOOSH
16:54:31 <AnMaster> there are more, but considering the great number of pieces he made, I hope you realise why I haven't (yet) listened to them all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart
16:54:50 <ehird> w h o o o o o sh
16:54:55 <ehird> geeze that breeze is strong
16:54:58 <AnMaster> ehird, what do you mean?
16:57:44 <ehird> oh, nothin'
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17:06:35 <ehird> The only way a lower number could be achieved would be:
17:06:35 <ehird> [...]
17:06:37 <ehird> • for Kevin Bacon to dig up the remains of Paul Erdős, grind them up, drink them in a milkshake providing him with an Erdős-Bacon number of 0 (temporarily)
17:06:40 <ehird> -- Wikipedia, Erdos-Bacon number
17:07:19 <AnMaster> ehird, any citation for it?
17:07:27 <ehird> no :P
17:07:39 <AnMaster> add that then ;P
17:07:46 <AnMaster> assuming you dislike it
17:07:58 * ehird adds a citation to the article itself
17:08:04 <AnMaster> oh?
17:08:10 <ehird> yes. recursive citations.
17:08:14 <AnMaster> hah
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17:08:44 <AnMaster> ehird, you realise this will be like division by zero for wikipedia? Same effect basically
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17:08:57 <ehird> I see.
17:09:24 <AnMaster> ehird, you better take cover to avoid the falling debris(sp?)
17:09:46 <ehird> Debris.
17:10:35 * AnMaster imagines a movie about a post-catastrophe/post-wikipedia/post-civilisation/post-nuclear-war world
17:10:58 <ehird> Yeah. There are only about 500000000 of them.
17:11:27 <AnMaster> ehird, question is, which of those slash-separated things will people think is the single worst one?
17:11:39 <AnMaster> is post-wikipedia worse than post-nuclear-war or not?
17:11:41 <ehird> Well, 3 of them are identical.
17:11:47 <AnMaster> ehird, oh?
17:11:56 <AnMaster> which three :D
17:12:04 <ehird> Nuclear war is a catastrophe and in context presumably you meant one that ended civilisation.
17:12:58 <AnMaster> ehird, well some editors on wikipedia would probably[citation needed] argue that the end of wikipedia is same as catastrophe but not same as nuclear war
17:13:08 <AnMaster> hm
17:13:12 <ehird> no, they probably wouldn't.
17:13:22 <AnMaster> well it would be fun if they did...
17:14:07 <ehird> i've been trying to nip this joke in the bud ever since I saw it coming :|
17:14:47 <AnMaster> ehird, well that is only because you hate me! *sob* [cue: anime-sized tears]
17:15:01 <ehird> clearly
17:17:44 <AnMaster> gah
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17:18:07 <AnMaster> the "signal return status the same on linux and *bsd" seems to be thanks to bash
17:18:13 <AnMaster> " The return value of a simple command is its exit status, or 128+n if the command is terminated by signal n."
17:18:32 <AnMaster> I'm not yet sure if that is true for posix shell too
17:18:36 * AnMaster searches docs
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17:20:16 <AnMaster> "The exit status of a command that terminated because it received a signal shall be reported as greater than 128."
17:20:17 <AnMaster> hm nop
17:20:25 <AnMaster> well I need bash anyway
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17:45:40 <AnMaster> ehird, question: does OS X have /dev/urandom?
17:45:45 <ehird> yes.
17:45:57 <ehird> Is /dev/urandom not part of UNIX?
17:46:12 <AnMaster> ehird, well I wasn't sure and I couldn't find it in man page
17:46:45 * AnMaster searches standards
17:49:35 <ehird> Highly doubtful that this has anything to do with unicode since web addresses do not support unicode and the changes are to a DLL which would have been written in c or c++.
17:49:48 <ehird> ^ Sufficient idiocy is indistinguishable from intelligence to the ignorant.
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19:08:33 <ehird> What's the recommended parallel make amount?
19:08:36 <ehird> cores+1?
19:10:38 <flexo> yes
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20:18:14 <dbc> In case anyone has a boardgamegeek account, I have just produced an "Esoteric Language Programmer" microbadge.
20:18:18 <dbc> http://www.boardgamegeek.com/browse/microbadge/7285
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20:25:30 <ehird> hi dbc
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21:24:02 <dbc> Hi.
21:24:42 <oklopol> o
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21:38:20 <ehird> moozilla: ok, this _is_ ridiculous. fix your connection
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21:42:59 <oklopol> ehird: why are you assuming there's something wrong with his connection
21:43:08 <oklopol> could just be pressing the disco button repeatedly.
21:43:17 <ehird> could be.
21:55:44 <olsner> the disco button?
21:55:56 <oklopol> olsner: exactly.
21:56:23 <olsner> oklopol: your answer is wholly dissatisfactory
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21:56:43 <oklopol> olsner: well you know. /disco time
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21:58:59 <olsner> I don't think I do know
22:04:48 <ehird> olsner: disco = disconnect
22:05:34 <oklopol> ehird: good point, i guess i should've mentioned that in my explanation
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