00:11:00 alright 00:11:05 i can feel it now 00:11:13 the ballmer peak is 00:11:16 approaching 00:11:38 MUSIC! 00:22:29 flexo, Mozart? Haydn? HÃ¤ndel? 00:22:38 was 00:22:39 nein 00:22:47 flexo, ? 00:22:50 eh? 00:22:50 yep? 00:22:53 what? 00:22:56 exactly 00:22:58 was means what 00:22:58 what is "nein"? 00:23:02 nein is no 00:23:03 :) 00:23:04 ah 00:23:26 i'd have thought everyone knows at least that much german heh 00:23:29 flexo, hm, maybe Liszt? Bach? 00:23:32 nope 00:23:47 don't even know the former 00:23:53 Chopin? 00:23:56 nope 00:24:10 um Beethoven? 00:24:13 nope 00:24:14 wait 00:24:18 how did you manage to do that ä? 00:24:27 flexo, it is on my Swedish keyboard... 00:24:33 oh, swedish. okay. 00:24:41 flexo, why would it be hard anyway? 00:24:48 on an american keyboard? 00:25:10 well there is some meta key to enter char sequences I assume? 00:25:13 like number 00:25:26 U+220 or whatever 00:25:30 these days? 00:25:34 unicode. huh. yea. well. maybe. 00:25:35 flexo, isn't there? 00:25:38 i don't know? 00:25:44 ä is on my german keyboard aswell ;) 00:25:54 well ok 00:26:06 anyway Germany had lots of great composers 00:26:12 congrats on that 00:26:18 flexo, anyway, what about Grieg? 00:26:30 that's the second one i don't know 00:26:44 flexo, which was the first one you didn't know? 00:26:50 Liszt 00:26:52 Also Grieg is from Norway 00:26:59 flexo, ah Liszt was from France 00:27:02 ah well 00:27:04 you know 00:27:08 german-france thingie 00:27:17 :) 00:27:21 Chopin from Poland(sp in English?) 00:27:28 yes 00:27:46 the rest were from Germany, though HÃ¤ndel spent most of his time in UK iirc 00:27:52 oh fuck 00:27:57 flexo, what? 00:28:18 just drank out of my ashtray 00:28:23 same glasses 00:28:23 wtf 00:28:25 same color 00:28:29 you are an alcoholic 00:28:31 (cuba libre in the right one) 00:28:31 -_ 00:28:36 and a smoker 00:28:44 I do not wish to talk to you any more 00:28:55 :) 00:29:38 flexo, just one question 00:29:42 what music was it actually? 00:30:01 Debussy? I assume it isn't something horrible like Wagner 00:30:05 ... 00:30:27 flexo, what? 00:30:38 it *was* Wagner? 00:30:45 no 00:30:50 well 00:30:52 what then? 00:30:55 i kinda like that valkyrie ride though 00:31:03 flexo, personally I can't stand it 00:31:19 oh could be Vivaldi or Verdi too I assume 00:31:24 but i agree with you that wagner sucks 00:31:42 i suppose it's just the movie i associate it with i like 00:32:01 No clue what movie that is. Anyway: What music? 00:32:17 the movie - apocalypse now? 00:32:39 i'm evading your question, don't you see it 00:32:41 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has changed nick to nice. 00:32:45 -!- nice has changed nick to KingOfKarlsruhe. 00:32:52 flexo, well I'm not going to let you evade it any more 00:33:19 well 00:33:26 yes? 00:33:42 you want as honenst answer? 00:34:31 flexo, what could be that bad? 00:34:40 yes 00:34:46 it's somewhat emberassing 00:34:55 flexo, not classical at all!? 00:34:59 when i'm drunk i usually listen to some 70s or 80s disco music :) 00:35:03 oh my 00:35:05 right 00:35:06 that bad 00:35:11 no I don't want more details 00:35:14 haha 00:35:50 i still got that damn taste in my mouth 00:35:55 BÃ©la BartÃ³k? 00:35:56 or 00:35:59 worst of all 00:36:02 Schoenberg!? 00:36:10 don't know neighter 00:36:32 flexo, the latter is like wagner, but worse 00:36:48 also doesn't it just taste cigarettes? 00:36:57 I mean if you smoke them, you shouldn't notice it anyway 00:38:49 no 00:38:56 it tastes like cigarettes, but worse 00:39:12 like solluted cigarettes 00:39:15 with some ash added 00:39:21 probably rather toxic too 00:39:26 but i didn't swallow 00:39:29 i suppose i'll be fine 00:50:23 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:51:37 * oerjan decides the web solution for Trondheim's new electronic bus cards sucks hedgehogs through a garden hose 00:52:15 WHY THE HECK CAN'T THEY FIND A WAY TO JUST SEND ME AN ORDINARY BILL, SAY EVERY 3 MONTHS 00:52:30 _that_ would have been an actual improvement 01:01:00 i mean, for something to be an actual... thing it has to be non-norm 01:01:14 conclusion: heterosexuals don't really exist 01:05:10 it's a one hour 01:05:26 possibly also, an hour one 01:06:43 23:31 read that as "sleep eat haskell die" 01:06:56 oklopol, you too? 01:08:58 flexo, ah Liszt was from France 01:09:05 wait, i thought he was hungarian... 01:09:15 oerjan, oh must have typoed that 01:09:46 oerjan, you are right, but he worked a lot in Paris 01:09:49 that is why I mixed it up 01:10:44 you are still on positive karma for knowing Grieg was norwegian ;D 01:11:05 oerjan, of course I know of him, and I love the Peer Gynt suites 01:11:26 hmm 01:11:29 and some of his other music, don't remember the opus numbers/names off hand 01:11:43 metal being the contiuation of classical music i suppose i'm allowed to hear that 01:11:45 ah yes i remember a previous discussion 01:11:49 oerjan, what I *don't* like is that Sigurd Jolsefar(sp?) march he made 01:12:07 oerjan, "FrÃ¥n Hollbergs tid" is nice, again that is probably a Swedishism 01:12:14 flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture! 01:12:24 :( 01:12:29 oerjan, agreed 01:13:15 oerjan, anyway, Grieg is IMO one of the all time best, together with Vivaldi, HÃ¤ndel and Mozart 01:13:33 Haydn and Delius are both near the top too 01:13:57 * oerjan should point out he is no expert 01:13:59 Beethoven just below that 01:14:07 oerjan, oh? what do you listen to then? 01:14:27 i nearly never play music myself 01:14:39 * oerjan prefers silence 01:14:41 also I plan to do like the US does, they declare something "terrorism" or "unamerican" 01:15:36 I now declare all rock, metal, rap and country western music to be terrorism and a threat to the world. It is also Unanmasterian 01:15:56 Lets declare war on rock, metal, rap and country western! 01:16:02 oerjan, what do you think? 01:16:09 oh and it's Jorsalfar, the man that is, don't know about the piece 01:16:30 oerjan, I think it is the same, since it is about him 01:16:39 wait a minute i _do_ like rock and country 01:16:48 oh also rock, metal, rap and country western are now declared to no longer be music 01:16:55 oerjan, what? really? 01:16:56 country!? 01:17:07 oerjan, you need therapy 01:17:15 and a few raps, and maybe a couple metals even 01:17:25 flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture! 01:17:29 you said it yourself 01:17:34 that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason 01:17:36 write-once memory 01:17:49 no, but there are always a couple of exceptions to everything :D 01:17:50 oerjan, what reason then? 01:19:17 oerjan, anyway it is weird Germany produced so many famous composers 01:19:20 don't you agree? 01:19:24 sorry, the green goblin behind my ear says i may not answer that 01:19:31 oerjan, eh? 01:19:40 that just made *no* sense whatsoever 01:19:41 oerjan, what reason then? 01:19:45 ah 01:19:57 well 01:20:03 it make almost no sense still 01:20:29 that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason 01:20:37 oerjan, you need therapy 01:20:43 well right 01:20:45 ok 01:20:48 makes sense 01:20:58 oerjan, now throw away the goblin and answer the question 01:21:20 oerjan, err 01:21:22 out of order 01:21:27 wait a minute i _do_ like rock and country 01:21:32 oh also rock, metal, rap and country western are now declared to no longer be music 01:21:32 oerjan, what? really? 01:21:32 country!? 01:21:32 oerjan, you need therapy 01:21:32 and a few raps, and maybe a couple metals even 01:21:33 flexo: NO! metal should be banned! it is a method of torture! 01:21:39 you said it yourself 01:21:40 that is almost certainly true, although not for that reason 01:21:40 write-once memory 01:21:41 oerjan, what reason then? 01:21:44 oerjan, see that ^ 01:21:53 you must have a lot of lag 01:21:59 hm 1.32 01:22:04 no, i just don't type fast 01:22:22 or think fast for that matter 01:23:57 but basically don't assume i'm answering the _last_ thing you say when you keep saying several things in a row... 01:25:13 oh and maybe metal shouldn't be totally banned but there should be some obligatory sound-proofing there... :D 01:27:17 just drank out of my ashtray 01:27:20 O_O 01:28:17 yea 01:28:22 i tell you 01:28:24 doesn't taste good 01:28:32 * oerjan believes that 01:28:42 the problem is, that cuba libre has the same color was water and cigarettes 01:28:55 *as 01:30:08 flexo, possible solutions: a) Check shape of object before moving to mouth b) stop smoking c) stop drinking alcohol d) stop smoking and stop drinking alcohol e) Both a and d 01:30:17 I suggest e 01:30:22 i suggest a 01:30:35 flexo, e is healthier? 01:30:43 especially smoking is bad 01:30:44 so? 01:30:48 yea i know 01:30:55 that's why i have a nicotine patch on my arm 01:30:57 * oerjan suggests (d), just because 01:30:58 :) 01:31:11 (because i'm in the process of quitting) 01:31:15 but i'm drinking, so 01:31:17 i'm smoking too 01:31:31 flexo, what about others too? Think of people with asthma. Smokers are a pain to us 01:31:42 cause issues as soon as you are outside 01:31:47 ah, new year resolution? 01:31:57 oerjan: no, my wisdom teeth got ripped out a few days ago 01:32:07 eek 01:32:07 flexo, why? 01:32:07 bought the patches to overcome the days i was not allowed to smoke 01:32:18 then decided to quit smoking completly 01:32:21 good 01:32:25 that's why i have that patch on my arm right now 01:32:28 now actually stop 01:32:31 but today i started smoking again 01:32:34 and the patch is still there 01:32:35 flexo, throw away the ashtray 01:32:39 i suppose that's even better 01:32:59 yea well. i'm addicted. 01:33:00 flexo, it will solve both b and the actual issue 01:33:14 flexo, go somewhere where there are no cigarettes 01:33:19 actually i recall smelling the ashtray has been suggested for helping to quit 01:33:21 say for a mountain hike 01:33:23 i doubt there is such a place 01:33:31 tasting should be even better, no? 01:33:33 oerjan: drinking it doesn't so i don't buy it 01:33:39 flexo, what about north Canada? 01:33:41 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:33:45 AnMaster: way too cold i think 01:34:05 flexo, Ok... Australian outback and 500 km to the next human? 01:34:18 yea, that sounds more like it 01:34:25 flexo, maybe a bit too warm 01:34:35 probably 01:34:40 me living in germany and all 01:34:44 ah 01:34:53 flexo, in Europe you'll have a hard time 01:34:57 a little warmer than munich would be nice though 01:35:00 finding lonely places 01:35:21 a place with nice temperature and humidity where no one actually lives - yeah right :D 01:35:27 hehe 01:35:51 oerjan, may exist if it is 1) small 2) hard to reach or inconvenient in some other way 01:35:55 maybe a remote island 01:35:58 electricity and internet connectivity (say gprs coverage) would be nice too 01:36:00 say, mountains 01:36:03 oerjan, that too 01:36:09 mountains are usually cold 01:36:12 flexo, then you are out of luck 01:36:19 alright then 01:36:24 no way around smoking 01:36:28 oerjan, well but if you go near enough to the equator you offset that 01:36:33 flexo, stop it 01:36:35 just stop it 01:36:47 can't. addiction. 01:36:55 probably a genetic issue tue. 01:36:57 flexo, stop drinking then instead? 01:37:02 no?! 01:37:04 flexo, why did you start at all? 01:37:15 oh, that's a funny story 01:37:21 flexo, and get professional help 01:37:26 you know, i spent some time in a mental hospital when i was 16yo 01:37:33 ouch 01:37:34 as i was 16 i was allowed to smoke 01:37:40 but the 14 and 15yo's were not 01:37:47 so i had to go with a cigarette for fire 01:37:58 err why fire? 01:37:58 because you know, you are now allowed to have a lighter in closed mental hospital 01:38:02 could set yourself on fire 01:38:11 * AnMaster backs away from flexo 01:38:16 anyway 01:38:20 1) why would you want a lighter at all? 01:38:28 to light cigarettes? 01:38:32 in case he wanted to BURN something, silly 01:38:36 the point is those 14yo and 15yos were smokers 01:38:38 oerjan, oh 01:38:49 and they needed me to get the fire 01:38:55 that's why i started smoking 01:38:59 flexo, -_- 01:39:26 "blaze" 01:39:29 that's the actual term 01:39:34 they needed me to get the "blaze" 01:39:46 you know, as in a lit cigarette, so you can pass the blaze? 01:40:27 i've been a chainsmoker ever since 01:40:36 tried to quit a couple of times 01:40:41 never worked out 01:40:49 but i suppose that was to be expected 01:40:55 shudder 01:40:58 people with depressions often smoke 01:41:06 and actually they are not advised to stop 01:41:13 because it causes a serotonine drop 01:41:30 Yesterday's Mezzacotta was pretty good imo 01:41:30 good i never stopped smoking then 01:41:35 even better i never started 01:41:49 you mean... because they would live longer and cause more expenses for the country? 01:41:50 :P 01:41:52 Sgeo: the main one? 01:41:57 flexo, that is the real reason 01:42:00 hm? 01:42:09 Yes 01:42:12 mezzacotta now has _four_ comics on it 01:42:18 oerjan, it does? 01:42:25 AnMaster: i suppose that's a joke, because although you might have an argument there, it's someone messed up 01:42:28 well, for a certain definition of comics 01:42:32 *somewhat 01:42:48 flexo, well since it is for someone messed up it may be somewhat messed up? 01:42:55 oerjan, I don't count invalid link that 01:43:06 the medical costs of smoking-related diseases outweight the care for the few years we live shorter 01:43:10 Comments on a Postcard, Lightning Made of Owls, and Square root of minus Garfield 01:43:26 flexo, ah hm 01:43:32 + the main random one 01:43:38 those people with ps 01:43:42 with.. 01:43:44 well. 01:43:49 whats the term? 01:44:00 crazy people, right 01:44:02 Imaginary Garfield Squared = minus garfield = minus train station field = MINOTAUR TRAINING FIELD 01:44:13 oerjan, "Square root of minus Garfield"? 01:44:15 * AnMaster looks 01:44:23 Is Prevx CSI a good anti-rootkit? 01:44:38 What do I win? 01:44:38 so. crazy people who manage to end up so old that they are actually reaching the avg. life expentency (sp! :) for smokers are probably not an issue after all 01:44:44 Please tell me it's minotaurs 01:45:08 (my reasoning over there is seriously flawed and makes no sense) 01:45:20 oerjan, do you understand it? 01:45:24 oerjan, I *dont* 01:45:31 * AnMaster reads about 01:45:54 oerjan: did you ask me why my wisdom teeth were pulled out? 01:46:04 AnMaster: it's sort of various variations of Garfield 01:46:06 flexo: no 01:46:10 oh okay 01:46:17 oerjan, ah 01:46:23 eek 01:46:43 okay 01:46:58 all of the new comics are collaborative, so there is a lot of variation 01:46:59 i think the alcohol is beginning to .. a.. e.. a.. ... hm.. *ffect me. 01:47:10 affect 01:47:19 why? explain it me please. 01:47:21 i think i never got it. 01:47:26 +to 01:47:46 effect is not a verb much 01:47:58 much? 01:48:14 much = covering my ass in case i'm wrong 01:48:20 it's always affect then? 01:48:25 i thought they both have a different meaning 01:48:39 actually you might be able to effect a change 01:48:42 a similar, but different one 01:48:54 o.O 01:49:32 writing and reading english is getting harder and harder 01:49:42 i'm rather drunk now 01:49:50 to affect is to influence, more or less 01:49:56 you know, i'd so much like to go on babbeling in german instead 01:49:58 while effect would be to cause 01:50:02 ah 01:50:08 so both verbs exist actually? 01:50:35 i'm pulling this out of thin air. read a dictionary for official explanations :D 01:50:46 na 01:50:48 i'm fine with that 01:50:54 won't remember a thing tomorrow anyway 01:50:57 (doesn't mean it's wrong though, just based on my intuition) 01:51:11 that's convenient 01:51:22 i think i've passed way beyong the ballmer peak by now :/ 01:51:24 more chocolate mocha beans -> 01:51:42 so no coding tonight 01:51:46 how unfortunate 01:52:05 it seems i have picked up an addiction to them over christmas 01:52:22 oh damnit 01:52:43 i just figured that i'm way too drunk to "type" with the stylus on my smartphone thingie 01:52:51 heh 01:53:01 no drunk-sms-sending then :/ 01:53:45 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:57:08