< 1234310940 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1234310976 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1234311059 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bye" < 1234311064 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"lol" < 1234311399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1234311402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1234311681 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1234311867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1234312717 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1234313589 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1234314391 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1234316423 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1234318576 0 :kerlobot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1234319038 0 :_0x44!n=_0x44@99.191.178.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1234319732 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1234321318 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1234325722 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1234328807 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to run kerlobot on Normish. < 1234328835 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1234328837 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1234328839 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1234328910 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1234328910 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1234328941 0 :Slereah2!n=fff@ANantes-259-1-136-10.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1234328941 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1234328977 0 :_0x44!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1234329188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1234329188 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1234329188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1234329314 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fails < 1234329317 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1234329799 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1234329799 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-58-199.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1234329799 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r03jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1234331776 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1234332952 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1234334567 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it implies that [ is not a bracket ||| ais523: until someone writes the matching ] ||| ais523: and that's a ridiculous interpretation <<< s/ridiculous/awesome/ < 1234334640 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I think they're more of an authority than you... <<< what did you mean by this? that they have the authority to decide [ isn't a bracket? < 1234334706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: If a normal person, upon being given the sentence "The (quick) brown fox jumps over the (lazy) dog" and an instruction to determine how many words are between parentheses, might say "two" rather than "seven", then the good interpretation is acceptable. <<< i'd assume "in parenthesis" if you'd meant the words in parens, would say 5 too < 1234334910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1234334910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1234334940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i don't know the cutoff, and because things i say matter, i'm going to resay half of that latter sentence. < 1234334941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :, might say "two" rather than "seven", then the good interpretation is acceptable. <<< i'd assume "in parenthesis" if you'd meant the words in parens, would say 5 too < 1234334962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the o's again, obviously < 1234334962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1234334962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1234335303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if someone then said "no no not between the paren groups, i mean between the actual parenthesis characters", i'd be like oh it's a trick, let's see, oh, 7, right. < 1234335369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you might not understand how to write a program in FORTAVM if you aren't a real programmer, but someone can make other graphical interfaces as well to program it if you want to. <<< and the rest of the sentence makes it clear what he means < 1234335417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to gooo < 1234335424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goo all around < 1234335425 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1234339199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1234339200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1234340908 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1234341399 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stares blankly < 1234341431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that working for you < 1234344296 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1234344674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1234344679 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1234346686 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1234346821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ais523: it implies that [ is not a bracket ||| ais523: until someone writes the matching ] ||| ais523: and that's a ridiculous interpretation <<< s/ridiculous/awesome/ <-- I can't find that in my logs, when is it from? < 1234350995 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around Wed Feb 11 00:00 2009 CET < 1234351074 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 12h 18m ago < 1234356391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: why would you interpret that correctly, when you could just as well misinterpret it to ask when my message was sent? < 1234356396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering. < 1234356530 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since he copied it, he shuld know from where. What is not apperant is when the quoted lines where sent. < 1234356555 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1234356561 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1234356562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1234356650 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-041-121.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1234356653 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I just searched for a substring of that in the logs, and found just that exact message, and the quoted lines from a while ago. < 1234357167 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1234358451 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the possibilities for intentionally misinterpreting it were there, and you senselessly wasted them! < 1234358550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1234360017 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1234360681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to Arnold Kim, in the latest Snow Leopard seed QuickTime Pro features are baked right in to regular old QuickTime, just like they should have been all along." < 1234360692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did it take Apple that long to realise that QuickTime "Pro" was a laughing stock? < 1234360693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sheesh. < 1234360830 0 :_0x44!n=_0x44@99.191.178.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1234360855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:46:31 MizardX: why would you interpret that correctly, when you could just as well misinterpret it to ask when my message was sent? < 1234360856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:46:36 just wondering. < 1234360860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is not awesome enough. duh. < 1234361321 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1234361330 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greetings... :-) < 1234361509 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's an anonymous comment on my blog with the code for a BF Joust warrior that scores 277 (of a possible 300) - http://tr.im/frhp < 1234362814 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1234364017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does GL_2(R) mean < 1234364042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be something trivial from linear algebra < 1234364046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't remember what. < 1234364081 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lie Group? < 1234364126 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1234364160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it < 1234364163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1234364180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think GL_2(R) is just an example of a lie group < 1234364249 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-101-215.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1234366723 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, interesting.. < 1234366917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be warned that the code 16, when used as the destination of a mapping, actually causes a kernel panic on keypress -— as I’ve found out the hard way. " < 1234366921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to map < 1234366922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"End" to that < 1234367102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remaps [] to () and vise versa < 1234367209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, SBCL is ridiculously fast < 1234367637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, emacs gets like 50x better when you disable the beep < 1234367938 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1234368189 0 :gzou2000!n=gregory@dsl-140-170.aei.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1234368654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#macosx: Masters of stating the really fucking useless obvious. http://pastie.org/386081.txt?key=ur8hitumxmju7heqzjkong < 1234369369 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1234369526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (expt (exp 1) (* pi (complex 0 1))) < 1234369527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#C(-0.9999999999999825d0 1.8725351415038922d-7) < 1234369534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day I will find a language that does this properly. < 1234369852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any language that knows math < 1234369871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what does J say < 1234369878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same ofc < 1234369886 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1234369901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any language that doesn't get euler's identity right is worthless. < 1234369903 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like the exact same wrong result, but should be the same operations < 1234369908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm... yeah sure < 1234369910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1234369925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why do you LIE < 1234369975 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python gives the exact same wrong result < 1234369999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ < 1234370001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the problem is while j knows its rationals, it doesn't know anything about reals, not even the nice ones. < 1234370012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i tried before saying anything < 1234370012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1234370014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j is dum < 1234370018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i was like J CAN SO DO THAT < 1234370023 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i realized < 1234370024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even haskell gets it wrong < 1234370025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why could it < 1234370035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well why couldn't it, it could just hardcode it. < 1234370062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think of haskell as a pretty low-level language, not sure why, maybe it's the bounded integers exist thing < 1234370076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whut < 1234370080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is really high level :| < 1234370090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus nobody likes/uses the bounded integeeeeeeers < 1234370140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why it feels low-level, but for some reason j feels higher-level to me, just less sophisticated. < 1234370150 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do realize this has nothing to do with reason < 1234370155 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried mathematica < 1234370164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch it gets it right :) < 1234370190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you do it right, that is, it probably does float stuff too) < 1234370196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION triez it < 1234370266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIRST ATTEMPT: < 1234370267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[10]:= (E ** (I Pi)) + 1 < 1234370268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out[10]= 1 + E ** (I \[Pi]) < 1234370279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SECOND: < 1234370280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[11]:= N[(E ** (I Pi)) + 1] < 1234370281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out[11]= 1. + 2.71828 ** (0. + 3.14159 I) < 1234370286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how lovely and USELESS < 1234370299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT A NUMBER, MATHEMATICA < 1234370301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A FUCKING NUMBER < 1234370340 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1234370352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ais523 < 1234370355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate mathematica now. < 1234370364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 FIRST ATTEMPT: < 1234370365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 In[10]:= (E ** (I Pi)) + 1 < 1234370366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 Out[10]= 1 + E ** (I \[Pi]) < 1234370367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 SECOND: < 1234370369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 In[11]:= N[(E ** (I Pi)) + 1] < 1234370371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 Out[11]= 1. + 2.71828 ** (0. + 3.14159 I) < 1234370372 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate excel < 1234370373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:38 how lovely and USELESS < 1234370383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does excel say < 1234370396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We're putting euler's identity into a bunch of calculamators to see how they handle it) < 1234370409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to get a function from the list, and it says "btw this here formula isn't finished yet, so there's a parse error, why not start over?" < 1234370414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: mathematica's all pattern matching, so it fails on anything that hasn't been coded into it < 1234370417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know < 1234370419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erases it. < 1234370423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: youve said < 1234370427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how come N[] didn't work < 1234370447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% bc < 1234370448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e^(i*pi))+1 < 1234370449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1234370537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm right < 1234370540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excel doesn't know complexes < 1234370547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excel is too UNCOMPLEX. < 1234370553 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python: < 1234370553 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> exp(1) ** (pi * 1j) < 1234370554 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-1+1.2246467991473532e-16j) < 1234370564 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-35-203.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1234370586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; SLIME 2006-04-20 < 1234370587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how i managed to forget pressing the function list button like 10 times. < 1234370588 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^1)^0j1p1 < 1234370588 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_1j1.22465e_16 < 1234370589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (defun calculate-e-to-the-power-of-i-times-pi-plus-one () < 1234370589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0) < 1234370589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALCULATE-E-TO-THE-POWER-OF-I-TIMES-PI-PLUS-ONE < 1234370591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (calculate-e-to-the-power-of-i-times-pi-plus-one) < 1234370593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1234370595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah common lisp < 1234370596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j = python < 1234370617 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1234370619 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^0j1p1 of course < 1234370624 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mentally copied what you did < 1234370639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1234370645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(expt (exp 1) (* pi (complex 0 1))) = (exp (* pi (complex 0 1))) ofc < 1234370659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah indeed < 1234370660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (exp (* pi (complex 0 1))) < 1234370661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#C(-1.0d0 1.2246063538223773d-16) < 1234370668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how come you think in common lisp < 1234370669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1234370709 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one i thought in math < 1234370739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you know trigonometry, huh, ehird < 1234370759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: stop mocking me :P < 1234370766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1234370771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was more like asking < 1234370778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you actually knew what that identity means < 1234370789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means euler had some awesome drugs. < 1234370793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because while it's trivial, it would mean you know at least some basic math < 1234370796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1234370801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect answer :P < 1234370802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : because while it's trivial, it would mean you know at least some basic math < 1234370804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha fuck you :D < 1234370846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it *is* trivial, after you know the nontrivial stuff it's built on :P < 1234370874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm why do I like common lisp < 1234370875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1234370876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1234370892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1234370897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... well it's lisp, and it's really fucking fast < 1234370903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and emacs+slime kind of reminds me of lisp machines. < 1234370918 0 :_0x44!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1234370927 0 :MigoMipo!i=c1b7fd21@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-98a07c5ab5cc837b JOIN :#esoteric < 1234370934 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi miggey. < 1234370946 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like lisp machines? < 1234370964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who doesn't < 1234370969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even other language fanatics like lisp machines < 1234370971 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so these games where you're like a hacker and you know try to hack stuff, they exist right? < 1234370978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they can implement their own language on top of lisp. < 1234370982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: see: Uplink < 1234370985 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i was thinking making rootquest. < 1234370992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaa < 1234370992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not like uplink < 1234371005 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like virtual machine, try to hack to root on it < 1234371013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc that exists < 1234371024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's called a virtual machine < 1234371036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just grab any OS you like, and try to hack it < 1234371039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1234371043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit different < 1234371048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend DOS < 1234371049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1234371059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOS would be very hard to hack from the outside < 1234371063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do realize i don't actually believe you can leave loopholes in code except on purpose < 1234371063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it has no clue how to open ports < 1234371073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: erm, DOS has 0 security < 1234371076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm a lunatic, as you should know. < 1234371081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, but also 0 network capability < 1234371085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without third-party software < 1234371097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1234371098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can put anything you like in the network cable, it'll just go la la la I can't hear you < 1234371103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're using a virtual machine < 1234371108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have physical access < 1234371110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :game over < 1234371112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for any system < 1234371149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside = via network, usually < 1234371155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1234371155 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from the outside < 1234371208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, the problem with rootquest is while it's simple to implement, it might take a while to make a virtual os in python, and i don't really have any tie < 1234371209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1234371216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just i have tons of ideas for loopholes! < 1234371222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate LOOP < 1234371225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (defun range (start end) < 1234371226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (loop for i from start below end collect i)) < 1234371231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so un lisp. < 1234371241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are cunning, although admittedly the coolest holes are stolen from actual systems < 1234371254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wut < 1234371292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's not the prettiest thingy < 1234371319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want acooke to release his malbolge geneticizer < 1234371362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.acooke.org/ that's one dense home page < 1234371390 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow cool < 1234371416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how it should be done, when you add content, just find a way to fit it on the same page < 1234371416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps. [note added later] i deleted the lisp code when updating the OS on my computer. before that i had generated a properly punctuated "Hello world", but never saved the code. so i guess this will remain the only non-trivial malbolge program.... < 1234371418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh < 1234371420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1234371441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ps you should remap [ to (, ] to ) and vise-versa, it's awesome < 1234371449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three tap smilies. lisp. < 1234371456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will remain the only non-trivial malbolge program? < 1234371477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i don't understand. < 1234371479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was written in like 2003 dood < 1234371484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :map [->( and ]->) < 1234371486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before anyone else wrote a program in malbolge < 1234371487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1234371496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know how typing [ and ] is one keypress < 1234371499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ( and ) need shift? < 1234371502 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know, well i guess i didn't, but you know i know now that you told me. < 1234371503 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1234371505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap () and [] < 1234371507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesome. < 1234371525 0 :gzou2000!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1234371526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm assuming qwerty here. you probably use FINNVAK or something < 1234371542 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ and ] need shift too. do realize our virtual mouths have a different tooth structure < 1234371555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1234371560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doesn't need shit i mean shift < 1234371568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't need shift in my palmtop < 1234371577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do {} need shift < 1234371579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. umm. < 1234371583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything needs shift :< < 1234371587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even <>? < 1234371592 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.,-'+´¨ < 1234371597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your life must sck :[ < 1234371598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those i can get without shifting < 1234371599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck :{ < 1234371601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck :( < 1234371605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to get used to this < 1234371614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i guess > = shift- (setq googolplex (expt 10 googol)) < 1234372406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hangs* < 1234372411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why won't my grades come to me < 1234372413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can j do THAT < 1234372441 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have five grades pending atm < 1234372458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^10^100 < 1234372459 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ < 1234372469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j kind of has an infinity fetish < 1234372473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: j's integers are bounded yknow < 1234372475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have bignums < 1234372479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that? < 1234372484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not :| < 1234372490 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1234372494 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i did < 1234372494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: enter 9999999999999(lots of 9s here) < 1234372495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hit enter < 1234372496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see _ < 1234372497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cry < 1234372502 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just didn't, like, understand it < 1234372510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean 10^10^100=inf already says that < 1234372514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it too traumatic :< < 1234372514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh but. < 1234372527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. < 1234372527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^10^x:100 < 1234372527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|limit error < 1234372527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 10 ^10^x:100 < 1234372544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oklotalk back on the cards again? :D < 1234372560 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i put it back on my todo list just now < 1234372565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1234372566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*haha < 1234372589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, time to prove my algebra is boolean now < 1234372596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~> < 1234372604 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(five fucking courses) < 1234372608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||) < 1234372613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1234372615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :byee < 1234372742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you like lisp? < 1234372745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp that is < 1234372758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what you mean by "like" < 1234372761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm highly impressed by it < 1234372778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was an excellent idea < 1234372781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a great language at the time < 1234372785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not today? < 1234372792 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think that nowadays, various lisp-based languages have overtaken the original < 1234372798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still a great idea, though < 1234372801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, common lisp was circa 1980s FYI < 1234372809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, pretty old < 1234372816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you think lisp derivatives > lisp? < 1234372822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all of them < 1234372824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of them are better < 1234372830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1234372846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, technically prolog is a lisp derivative < 1234372857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think prolog is better than lisp? < 1234372859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdo. < 1234372868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most functional languages were at least inspired by Lisp < 1234372873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOO HOO LEOPARD DOWNLOADED < 1234372875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ o / < 1234372883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Haskell was indirectly inspired by it, for instance, even though they aren't all that similar < 1234372892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very indirectl < 1234372893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1234372930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Miranda via ML via ISWIM < 1234372934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of them actually were based on lisp < 1234372936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in the same genre < 1234372943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in conclusion, haskell has almost nothing to do with lisp < 1234372958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, many of them would never have been come up with if their authors hadn't seen lisp < 1234372972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, even Underload was inspired by Lisp to some extent < 1234372976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole < 1234372977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval < 1234372979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1234372984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi comex < 1234373309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION burnz leopard < 1234373316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mauled by peta < 1234373340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be so amused if Apple were set on by animal rights activists who missed the fact that the version names were just codenames < 1234373357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New Leopard mac!" < 1234373359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omg fur is murder" < 1234373667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (defun calculate-epsilon (&optional (current 1.0)) < 1234373667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (if (= (+ 1.0 (/ current 2.0)) 1.0) < 1234373669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : current < 1234373671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (calculate-epsilon (/ current 2.0)))) < 1234373673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALCULATE-EPSILON < 1234373675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (calculate-epsilon) < 1234373677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.1920929e-7 < 1234373679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (format t "~f" (calculate-epsilon)) < 1234373681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.00000011920929 < 1234373683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIL < 1234373685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool stuff < 1234373718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, keep halving a number x until 1+x is indistinguishable from 1 < 1234373763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1234373768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the floating point machine epsilon < 1234373776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. "smallest number greater than zero" < 1234373786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not really < 1234373791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since comparisons are handled differently < 1234373803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's the smallest number that makes a difference to 1 < 1234373807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1234373810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smallest number that makes a difference to 10 is 10 times as large < 1234373816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1234373817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the way floating-point works < 1234373822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :floating point is weird-ass < 1234373839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd never use it for anything serious tbh < 1234374118 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1234376029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEOPARD BURNED! < 1234376034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you guys post upgrade < 1234376045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it goes more smoothly than my average upgrade < 1234376712 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-35-203.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1234377864 0 :gzou2000!n=gregory@132.203.97.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1234378286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ran in to some trouble, :[ < 1234378288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:( < 1234378292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try that again... < 1234378294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what went wrong? < 1234378481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It displayed a warning sign on my tiger drive and said I had to reformat the drive so it could boot from it before installation. < 1234378487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it was already in the right format. < 1234378495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange... < 1234378503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'll ask #macosx wtf happened. < 1234378749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, #macosx is so irritating < 1234378757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people just talk about boring life crap and ignore all questions < 1234378764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a fucking social channel < 1234378773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... my computer's busy updating dpkg, it always amuses me when that happens < 1234378821 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.1920929e-7 corresponds with 23 bit mantissa. (+ 8 bit exponent and 1 bit sign = 32 bit IEEE float) < 1234378930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<#macosx> Blah blah blah fires in australia fires in australia fires in australia fires in australia fires in australia fires in australia fires in australia what's mac os x? < 1234378935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1234379000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION consults on Olde Wise Oracle Apple.com < 1234379020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 results found for 'reformat leopard install' < 1234379050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only installation option may be Erase and Install <-- that, I think < 1234379061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When installing Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, the only available installation option may be Erase and Install. An alert may appear during installation, such as "You can not install mac os x on this volume with out changing your installation settings...". < 1234379062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES, that < 1234379077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use Disk Utility from the Leopard installation DVD to verify and repair the destination drive (choose it from the Utilities menu while started from the Leopard DVD). < 1234379078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrr < 1234379080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that < 1234379139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try it anyway < 1234379195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S GOOOOOOO < 1234379202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye guys breaking my machine --------> < 1234379424 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-107.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1234380759 0 :gzou2000!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1234380888 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1234380999 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-60-155.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1234381691 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1234381751 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1234381752 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1234388730 0 :ehirddit!i=5b694377@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-97c390fc0a1dbbab JOIN :#esoteric < 1234388737 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leopard is w o w. < 1234388750 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is _excellent_. < 1234388760 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray. < 1234388763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1234388765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked? < 1234388777 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. All upgraded. < 1234388795 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my settings and files are technically gone, but I'll fish out what I need from /Previous Systems/. < 1234388895 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is nice. Okay. Better get stuff I need set up. < 1234388946 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Time Machine, should set that up sometime. < 1234388959 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not backing up has worked fine for however many years I've been using computers. < 1234389032 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it thinks I live in Cardiff. < 1234389187 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iChat still doesn't do MSN. So, Adium download go. < 1234389233 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1234389280 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"“Adium” is an application which was downloaded from the Internet. Are you sure you want to open it?" < 1234389282 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, yes. < 1234389416 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think I'll give Mail.app another try. Maybe they made it less crap. < 1234389446 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is far worse than gmail. < 1234389447 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the middle button is at the default of open dashboard. I almost forgot how retarded that default was. < 1234389454 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: thought so. < 1234389458 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmail's a bit slow though. < 1234389463 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's Mail.app. < 1234389486 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? I never had that. < 1234389508 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :search is very slow with a couple thousand messages in your inbox < 1234389526 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. I mostly search the Agora/B mailboxes and they have like 7,000 messages each < 1234389631 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: is time machine good? < 1234389645 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried it < 1234389648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time machine's just a good interface to one of the tried-and-true backup methods, I think < 1234389662 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good interface is almost everything < 1234389662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically rsync with a less insane syntax, which is needed < 1234389668 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pretty much < 1234389674 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just scans the HD every 5 minutes or so < 1234389679 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and transfers a diff to an external HD < 1234389687 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then integrates with a bunch of apps to let you drag & drop from the past < 1234389794 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only took 30 minutes to install, BTW. < 1234389801 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem was I think I didn't have enough free space on the disk. < 1234389811 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1234389813 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I had to expand it and then it let me install. < 1234389822 0 :comex!n=comex@teklinks.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1234389827 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb comex < 1234389875 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mibbit is so ugly. < 1234389890 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is your FACE! < 1234389903 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1234390221 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So! < 1234390427 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, it seems all they did to Mail was make it look prettier. < 1234390429 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How disappointing. < 1234390477 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how you restore the iTunes library. < 1234390599 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't copy my music because there's not enough free space x_x < 1234390605 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deletes the OS and crap from old system < 1234390666 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1234390782 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr. That didn't work. < 1234390857 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That did. Good. < 1234391194 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1234391296 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get an IRC client. < 1234391533 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fishes out textmate serial from old HD < 1234391576 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only it were that simple. < 1234391656 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, it'll be in my email. < 1234391659 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gmail search, go! < 1234391682 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T'was easy, that. < 1234391858 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, textmate < 1234392135 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you're all highly interested. < 1234392429 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'ma get myself a proper IRC client. < 1234392479 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer has no IRC client, I believe. < 1234392490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: does it have telnet? < 1234392491 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has ChatZilla, which I don't use. < 1234392498 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has telnet. < 1234392554 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's give Linkinus a try, maybe it's less crashy these days. < 1234392555 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOKAY. < 1234392560 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Linkinus” is an application which was downloaded from the Internet. Are you sure you want to open it? < 1234392564 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This will get annoying quick. < 1234392572 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should disable it or something. < 1234392583 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> < 1234392584 0 :ehirddit!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1234392926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helllooooooooooo! < 1234392932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1234392944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523? Hellloooooo? Anyone? < 1234392963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1234392974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was wondering about staying silent to see ehird get increasingly more frantic < 1234392987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1234393041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Linkinus does seem to work much nicer on Leopard. < 1234393068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's IM, IRC and editing sorted out. < 1234393206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1234393924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hii < 1234393925 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: group located on or off), < 1234394424 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1234394425 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: when a player: in any way grant legal status to that office. < 1234394555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.winsupersite.com/images/reviews/winme_b3_42.gif < 1234394561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click that link and you can now cry! < 1234394568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1234394568 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora* alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc lovecraft pa speeches ss wp < 1234394569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1234394570 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1234394756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spaces are nice. Now I have to have 4 times as much stuff to die. < 1234394806 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1234394812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Corun! < 1234394899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye Corun. < 1234395048 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hai < 1234395190 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot. < 1234395191 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: http://mumble.net/campbell/ scheme/ plt/ collects/ net/ ipv4/ tcp_ecn.) < 1234395428 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1234395432 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1234395893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recently i wrote my own operating system (POPS) and reinvented the wheel invented by Bill Gates many years ago…" < 1234395954 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bill Gates invented the wheel? < 1234395963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Also, operating systems. < 1234396027 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad idea, he had it sweet with the wheel < 1234396034 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now everyone blames him for windows. < 1234396262 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's talking about crappy operating systems? < 1234396281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess gates didn't invent those either < 1234396287 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1234396406 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t klama klama klama klama klama zo si si < 1234396414 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1234396415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no parse < 1234396477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zo si si" is confusing. < 1234396490 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The final "si" erases "zo si". < 1234396518 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I think it only erases the "si" before it. < 1234396558 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the important part: in "zo si", the "si" is denatured. < 1234396562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> confusing < 1234396564 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1234396587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1234396631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i just don't know how the erasers work regarding pedantic grammar treatment < 1234396737 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After you've lexed a sentence, the first thing you do is handle zoi, and the second thing you do is handle zo.