< 1235002197 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1235002353 0 :chuck|busy!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :chuck < 1235002382 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235002815 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235005361 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1235007361 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1235016058 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235016589 0 :Slereah!n=fff@ANantes-259-1-11-219.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235017224 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235021384 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1235021408 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1235027780 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1235027894 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235028592 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235028607 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235029363 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235030399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1235030400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1235030436 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235031369 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@82.196.207.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235031373 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235034322 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235035312 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235035619 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1235036436 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235037214 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-91-221.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235045481 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235045950 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235046208 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWC :D < 1235048199 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235049213 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1235051957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235051967 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235052385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235052395 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235053005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1235053006 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235053142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235053144 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1235053197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523_ < 1235053201 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1235053202 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1235053216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday, I saw something pretty surprising < 1235053222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was an entirely new failure mode for the Door < 1235053235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that particular Door is a double door, which swings open < 1235053239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the halves of it was shut < 1235053252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other half was open, waving about back and forth between about 90 and 70 degrees open < 1235053252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1235053258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this door is awesome < 1235053261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235053276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it sentient? < 1235053279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1235053286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it to m < 1235053286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1235053338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is worrying, because normally with doors it's obvious < 1235053684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm wondering why the build-dependencies for VirtualBox include a K&R C compiler < 1235053700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it uses k&r c in parts? < 1235053703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prseumably legacy code < 1235053718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but back in the days of K&R C, people hadn't even thought of virtualisation < 1235053772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you exit an error in emacs? < 1235053779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it'll be auxillary code < 1235053782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not directly related < 1235053809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: emacs errors normally exit automatically < 1235053818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elisp errors < 1235053827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that trigger the debugger < 1235053835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I don't remember offhand < 1235053845 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but try C-], C-M-c, and ESC ESC ESC < 1235053851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are good at exiting all sorts of things < 1235053865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, ESC ESC ESC is a generic exit-anything code < 1235053872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it works out dwimness to figure out what you want to exit < 1235053875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESC ESC ESC: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Cannot return from the debugger in an error") < 1235053878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's easy to remember < 1235053884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for c-m-c < 1235053893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-] works < 1235053894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1235053907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it's trying to return just one layer < 1235053911 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas you need to return 2, somehow, to skip over the layer that's erroring < 1235053978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1235053981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-] does one-layer < 1235053983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just c-3 c-] < 1235054057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1235054058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prefix args < 1235054079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, doesn't c-3 just repeat 3 times < 1235054088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235054093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it applies threeness to the following command < 1235054100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most commands interpret that as a repeat, but some don't < 1235054137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, C-3 M-g M-g jumps to line 3 < 1235054149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, okay < 1235054155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did c-] c] c-] < 1235054166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: who says lisp has to have parens? http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3194/picture2xv0.png < 1235054170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(warning: may cause convulsions) < 1235054210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part is th at it's understandable < 1235054214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lispers really do read the indentation < 1235054224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cross between Lisp and Python! < 1235054229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LYTHON < 1235054302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, the only thing making emacs feel klunky now is the scrollbar behaviour < 1235054308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it CHANGES SIZE depending on where you are < 1235054319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and throws an error if you scroll past the top or bottom... < 1235054331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the scrolling is jerky < 1235054334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder how I can fix that < 1235054388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's fixed in the GTK version of Emacs, I think < 1235054395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? < 1235054398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the jerkiness of the scrolling, but the size of the thumb thing < 1235054401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dirty gtk buggers. always getting the good features. < 1235054409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll complain to emacs, and get told to get used to it < 1235054413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they just used gtk scrollbars < 1235054417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235054426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the scrolling is jerky because emacs can't render half a line at the top of the screen < 1235054432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use Carbon scrollbars on OS X, it's just that they do the handling themselves < 1235054444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyy can't they just use a native control _occasionally_ < 1235054456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the freaking scrollbar behaviour doesn't have to be 100% identical over every damn system! < 1235054472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is designed for the console, pretty clearly < 1235054486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really like being in a graphical interface < 1235054494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's getting better < 1235054498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, does gvim do smooth scrolling? < 1235054500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it did start life in the console, yes < 1235054505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not sure < 1235054509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it's not smooth scrolling < 1235054512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smooth scrolling is a scourge < 1235054513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: remember that for ages, Stallman refused to allow backspace to delete backwards in Emacs < 1235054518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's just useless eyecandy on scrolls) < 1235054521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's needed is more precise scrolling < 1235054524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235054529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X doesn't do smooth scrolling, but scrolling goes smoothly anyway < 1235054534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235054539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a scroll just moves a little, and the scrollwheel is very sensitive < 1235054549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:41:53] ehird: remember that for ages, Stallman refused to allow backspace to delete backwards in Emacs < 1235054552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really/ < 1235054553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?! < 1235054559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because it couldn't be distinguished from control-h < 1235054564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1235054569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't believe they didn't sack that guy earlier. < 1235054584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the FAQ back then had an entry for people who wanted backspace to delete backwards, rather than delete < 1235054601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entry suggested changing your login script (the equivalent of bashrc) to map delete-backwards to delete not backspace < 1235054616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to find it recently, but couldn't < 1235054617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1235054621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secret to emacs not being a sore thumb #32: (setq ring-bell-function (lambda ())) < 1235054631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs has not _once_ beeped usefully for me < 1235054643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either it's popped up a message in an emacs-window to tell me about something important, < 1235054648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it's just bothering me about stupid stuff in the minibuffer < 1235054663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, YOU SCROLLED PAST THE TOP OF THE DOCUMENT. LET ME RAPE YOUR EARS WITH MY BEEP/ < 1235054664 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh, I've set visible-bell on my emacs < 1235054664 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235054679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU SCROLLED PAST THE TOP OF THE DOCUMENT. LET ME TRIGGER YOUR EPILEPSY < 1235054690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have visible-bell everywhere I can on this system, the beep on this laptop is really annoying < 1235054704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, emacs' visible bell is pretty unobtrusive, although noticeable < 1235054707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs beeps using the os x system beep, except if you keep scrolling up it retriggers it for every single scroll < 1235054716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's an audial mudbath of hate < 1235054764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I just realised that emacs can only display full lines, you're right < 1235054765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so stupid < 1235054768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way, for historical reasons, in order to scroll to a particular location using the scrollbar in traditional Emacs scrolling, you have to scroll with the middle mouse button < 1235054783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs proposal: (setq modern t) < 1235054792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes emacs not be hopelessly 70s. < 1235054795 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's fixed in pretty much every port but the tty version to work as expected on the system, though < 1235054805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :• rgr_ didnt even know emacs had scroll bars ... < 1235054830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think he's trying to be all 1337 by saying he doesn't need scrollbars, or d'you think he's just blind? :P < 1235054879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs -nw doesn't have scrollbars < 1235054885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the common version to use over ssh or whatever < 1235054894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the psychotherapist. Please, describe your problems. Each time you are finished talking, type RET twice. emacs can't get scrollbars right Emacs? Hah! I would appreciate it if you would continue. < 1235054901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the psychotherapist hates emacs. < 1235055103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7yi1m/while_1_if_1_1_printfcosmic_ray_detectedn/c07rfy6 < 1235055105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BITS FLIPPIN' < 1235055356 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-235.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1235056058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dragonflybsd.org/release22/ < 1235056447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you try and explain to me why people use things like gnus < 1235056447 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235056452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopolko < 1235056478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, I tried to use gnus and didn't understand it either < 1235056490 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-14-215.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235056497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that emacs kind of morphs into a ui < 1235056503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't get why you would use it that way < 1235056504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1235056511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any way in which gnus is better than another mail client < 1235056527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs just makes applications suck more because it's not made with anything but editing in mind < 1235056630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1235056645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author of gnus appears to be partially responsible for modern cd ripper/media library programs < 1235056648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... with Emacs. < 1235056649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quimby.gnus.org/jukebox/jukebox.html < 1235056664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Insane? Yes." yes, how very insane :P < 1235056738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When I wrote the Emacs music interface ten years ago (started back in Octuber 1997, apparently), this all seemed a bit far-fetched. "Oooh. Music on a computer. Aaah." These days it's all trivial beyond beliefe. Just goes to show. I've continued fiddling with the Emacs music interface (bigger screen, remote control, last.fm interface, etc), and I doubt I'll ever succumbed to one of those new-fangled pointy-clicky interfaces. So there." < 1235056816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mighty Mouse Scrolling < 1235056817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By default the scrolling with the Mighty Mouse is very jerky. The following setting feel more reasonable: < 1235056817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (setq mouse-wheel-scroll-amount '(0.01)) < 1235056820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? :DD < 1235056845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god it works < 1235056847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what confuses me more is that that's written with AnMaster grammar < 1235056860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just one letter missing < 1235056861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/feel/feels/ < 1235056864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ? < 1235056869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but that's a very AnMaster grammar mistake to make < 1235056870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple typo, probably, rather than broken grammar deluxe < 1235056883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster's grammar is more or less perfect except for that sort of thing < 1235056891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which line? < 1235056893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing is rather common... < 1235056897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The following setting feel more reasonable:" < 1235056902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't write that, but it reminded me of you < 1235056906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels < 1235056908 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be that < 1235056912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoooooooooosh < 1235056913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235056937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmph, c-h f is function docs, where are var docs < 1235056948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-h a I think < 1235056956 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has functions and commands and vars, etc < 1235056974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1235056976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just commands < 1235056985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-h v? < 1235056993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1235056998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, emacs uses utf-8 by default right? < 1235057011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also the reasons I make that sort of typos are primarily 1) cold fingers 2) The S-key for some reason has higher friction on this old (cheap) keyboard < 1235057024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1235057025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, you live in freaking sweden < 1235057031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you guys have mastered not being cold?! < 1235057041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, that is why I have cold fingers... it is so cold here :/ < 1235057057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh why does scrolling in emacs move the point < 1235057058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even indoors it tend to be quite cold < 1235057060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so stupid < 1235057066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because point's always onscreen < 1235057070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feature < 1235057072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it shouldn't be ;_; < 1235057075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs is a console app, it has to put the cursor somewhere < 1235057081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to look at another part of the document then go back to editing < 1235057089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: C-x 2, then < 1235057091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know I can push the point < 1235057106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I often use the mark for that < 1235057117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the mark where I want to look at, and point where I'm editing < 1235057121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C-x C-x to swap < 1235057181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mouse-wheel-progressive-speed is a variable defined in `mwheel.el'. Its value is t < 1235057185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, THIS is the stupidity < 1235057187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disabllllllllle < 1235057193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? I like it < 1235057208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like being more precise, plus other apps don't do that. < 1235057210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, I used to use an older version of emacs without mouse-scroll capability, and implemented it myself < 1235057234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the progressive-speed thing was one big improvement of the actual emacs version over my home-brew < 1235057241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, admittedly other apps do do something similar < 1235057247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the effect is far less < 1235057249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just scroll close to where you're aiming, wait a bit for the timer to reset, and scroll accurately < 1235057251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's closer when it's off < 1235057261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or I could just scroll to where I want < 1235057368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(setq mouse-wheel-scroll-amount '(0.05)) (setq mouse-wheel-progressive-speed nil) < 1235057369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1235057386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's perfect because I compared it with a native app :P < 1235057664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, people still print things < 1235057666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot. < 1235057698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even I do sometimes, to hand coursework in < 1235057710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to make physical objects for playing games with < 1235057715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's still rather surprising though < 1235057722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm justlike, oh, wow < 1235057799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly more dramatic is that I'm gradually forgetting how to write < 1235057804 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still write for exams and to fill in forms < 1235057809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for nearly everything else I type < 1235057817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My handwriting looks similar to that of a 7 year olds. < 1235057889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp is great < 1235057904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not be as elegant as scheme but it's still lisp, and SBCL is a great compiler < 1235057918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really fast and the error messsages are awesome (I'm saying this because it just gave me a really helpful one) < 1235057925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric would probably invent uncommon lisp < 1235058027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235058206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, M-x has been replaced by C-h w quite a lot for me < 1235058933 0 :Slereah!n=fff@ANantes-259-1-21-210.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235059363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:02:22] i'd like to use emacs (amongst other things) as desktop-publishing platform to post blog entries (possibly in reST markup via metaweblog (atom) to (django-powered) blog sites...any idea how to do it? < 1235059416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he a troll? < 1235059424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just very crazy < 1235059458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on its own, those technologies are rather mundane; such a comprehensive stack reminds me of Aristotle Pagaltzis and Tim Bray except even crazier < 1235059533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap, some code I stole has been stolen :-D < 1235059536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know because of the comment. < 1235059627 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235059647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1235059650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny < 1235059658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's been stolen into a semi-popular thang) < 1235059662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1235059681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this paste: http://pastie.textmate.org/pastes/30372, note the author and the comment, < 1235059684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :---> < 1235059685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/mojombo/jekyll/blob/d0f46c2120852d826937a97d3241088d8dfce43d/lib/jekyll/core_ext.rb < 1235059731 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-126-135.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235060292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drafts up lisp machine instruction set < 1235061385 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKELIST, APPEND, APPLY, LITERAL x :) < 1235061427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hf implementing that in a cpu and doing useful ops :D < 1235061480 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would need a few more stack operators... < 1235061494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even a good basis for a lisp machine < 1235061506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1235061558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Note that write is not the opposite of "read". Unfortunately. http://bespin.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1235061563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first topic change in 70 years < 1235061574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Note that write is _not_ the opposite of "read". Unfortunately. http://bespin.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1235061586 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been a while since I last toughed lisp... < 1235061734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda should be renamed to fun < 1235061736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1. lambdas are fun < 1235061738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2. defun < 1235061745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3. lambdas are fun < 1235061772 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda is unfun :( < 1235061836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (+ (values 1 2 3)) 1 < 1235061839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This saddens me. < 1235062598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has emacs set up nicely for lisp now < 1235062607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I open a lisp file, a SLIME connection to my sbcl opens below < 1235062813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy crap < 1235062819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime highlighted my division by zero in a function < 1235062822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when c onstant folding < 1235063153 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: are you sure you don't want cXr? < 1235063172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, cons? :P < 1235063176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, jumps? < 1235063177 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235063177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1235063209 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: cXr? < 1235063231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes introduct < 1235063232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh i assumed append was noobglish for cons < 1235063236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MizardX: car, cdr, etc < 1235063239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it probably was. < 1235063260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well may not have been since there's makelist < 1235063268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't makelist+append kinda cons < 1235063298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean loosely isomorphing) < 1235063360 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been a long while since I last touched lisp, so I didn't concider all aspects < 1235063400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cons-ider, you have like a cons-allergy or something? < 1235063433 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makelist+append -> cons+car+cdr would be better < 1235063565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-USER> (introduct '(((s k) s) k)) ((((^ X (^ Y (^ Z ((X Z) (Y Z))))) (^ X (^ Y X))) (^ X (^ Y (^ Z ((X Z) (Y Z)))))) (^ X (^ Y X))) < 1235063569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humble beginnings. < 1235064434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1235064446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: MizardX: oklopol: others: i just found an old esolang of mine :D I like it http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/CRTL < 1235064463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("say hello"->x)->("Hello, "~x~"!"); < 1235064463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thingy"->"wor"; < 1235064463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mabob"->"ld"; < 1235064463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"say hello"->"thingymabob" < 1235064468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints hello world < 1235064500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that could break < 1235064503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last could rewrite the first < 1235064504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It hink < 1235064505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1235064579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(("fib"->a)->b)->b~"|"~a~b; < 1235064579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a~"|"~b->(("fib"->a)->b); < 1235064579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("fib"->"1")->"1" < 1235064587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's one fine fib you wrote there < 1235064610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: do you have an interp? < 1235064622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. I could write one < 1235064628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is it TC? I suspect yes, for the same reason as Thue < 1235064641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235064646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1235064647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1235064650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol's fib doesn't output a newline < 1235064681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily fixable < 1235064710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(("fib"->a)->(b~" < 1235064711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"))->b~"|"~a~b~" < 1235064711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"; < 1235064711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a~"|"~b->(("fib"->a)->b); < 1235064712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("fib"->"1")->"1 < 1235064712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1235064716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nicer with \n, of course :P < 1235064731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1235065768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Balanced binary: < 1235065771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = -1, 1 = 1. < 1235065969 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1235065969 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1235066085 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235066085 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1235066222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i looked at CRTL quite recently on a random esotrip. < 1235066231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235066233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didjoo like it < 1235066283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it looks very nice. i didn't give it that much thought :) < 1235066296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esotrips are more about clicking the random button than actually reading the pages. < 1235066589 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1235066725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:56:11 GregorR: sometimes i want to say two things at once to make the first one impossible to comment on < 1235066725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:56:23 but indeeed < 1235066725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:56:32 it sometimes looks wronglied. < 1235066729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is hilarious < 1235066746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: surelyurely you know it because you wrote the fibbb < 1235066762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man oklopol you used to be a noob < 1235066765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:00:39:12 has anyone done quicksort in brainfuck? < 1235066765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:03:51 :DD < 1235066765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:24:47 true, but i've been making this string parser as a wimpmode for it, stacks are as easy to use with it as in ... languages they are easy to use :D < 1235066765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:29:59 eh... bad idea you say? :D < 1235066772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:31:35 well, equally fun, stupid or not :) < 1235066776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:31:54 yes, this is prolly the last thing i do with it :) < 1235066777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:32:38 never done intercal :\ < 1235066777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06.12.06:01:32:52 maybe today < 1235066800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i know it, but i don't remember the details. < 1235066821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"true, but i've been making this string parser as a wimpmode for it, stacks are as easy to use with it as in ... languages they are easy to use :D" i cannot parse this < 1235066826 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this retard mean? < 1235066836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235066841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were making a wimpmode for brainfuck < 1235066842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages in which < 1235066844 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235066846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was < 1235066852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man you were a failure < 1235066852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know that < 1235066853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1235066872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1235066944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've made a wimpmode in my later years too < 1235066951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it was considerably more interesting < 1235066957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: That's a totally retarded idea CATS ARE FLUFFY < 1235066974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:56:58 rice: awesome puppy < 1235066974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:57:00 book < 1235066984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:57:33 (i actually wrote 'puppy' instead of 'book', although i have to admit i realized it a bit before i pressed return, but had to say it anyway) < 1235066996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that c++ project i was describing there was very much like err... pebble < 1235067008 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235067012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not pebble < 1235067014 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it pebble? < 1235067020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty senile today. < 1235067021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1235067032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pikhq's things < 1235067034 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1235067075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it was just stuff you can directly compile to brainfuck context-insensitively < 1235067094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah i was a noober < 1235067143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i did get considerably more stuff done ofc < 1235067173 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235067199 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rice: awesome puppy <<< okay awesome book, nice correction, but "rice"? < 1235067227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rice=me < 1235067230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ownz that nik < 1235067240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it made no sense in context either btw < 1235067246 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235067266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and right it's your nick, thought that was at GregorR < 1235067275 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what book? < 1235067279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1235067282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was completely out of context < 1235067315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235067321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i awesome or what < 1235067366 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often read #esoteric logs and just laugh at my own jokes < 1235067387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often read #esoteric logs and just laugh at oklopol's jokes < 1235067388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1235067392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1235067393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I secretly want to marry him < 1235067393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1235067405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, marrying me would be so awesome < 1235067416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you love yourself so much WHY DON'T YOU GO MARRY YOURSELF < 1235067417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1235067434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was so outta blue :DDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1235067611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so oklopol is gay marriage legal in finlander < 1235067671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we have that registered couple thing or something. < 1235067737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like legal benefits, but different term < 1235067745 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fizzie might know better < 1235067746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Deewiant < 1235067775 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't exactly follow this stuff, the whole marriage thing never interested me. < 1235067789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean for any kind of sexualities < 1235067802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for marrying ridiculous stuff < 1235067804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like chairs < 1235067806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome < 1235067807 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1235067843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I'm a chair < 1235067845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's marry. < 1235067944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've heard something about the president being the one who grants the right for ppl under 15 to get married < 1235067957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would pretty much be her only duty < 1235068061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wut < 1235068124 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my acronyms and interrogative pronouns exactly < 1235068166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know how you keep searching for the semantics of computation itself < 1235068171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: search for the data structure of computation itself. < 1235068175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be like 10x cooler. < 1235068190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, computation is just the operation that naturally flows from the data structure of computation. < 1235068230 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-235.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1235068300 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-146.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235068315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p632626363.txt < 1235068317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an interp < 1235068338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235068343 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that usbset < 1235068345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*subset < 1235068351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give give give omg < 1235068358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1235068364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but but i don't know where it is atm < 1235068368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINDDIT < 1235068373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1235068380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not now :< < 1235068407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tons to do, and i'm going to start doing it right after i've taken this crap i'm taking atm < 1235070796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1235071488 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1235071562 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1235072188 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235072203 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1235072342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1235072468 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything interesting new this week? :-) < 1235072472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1235072484 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@i-225.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235073001 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-235.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1235074538 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1235074764 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235075482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird|away < 1235076187 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : lambda should be renamed to fun < 1235076197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is in ML < 1235076258 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, Ocaml < 1235076268 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SML has fn < 1235076283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function < 1235076428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, that's actually the only example on that page < 1235076851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol, I'm a chair < 1235076857 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chair of oklopology < 1235079001 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235079630 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235080308 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235081089 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-231.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235081956 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1235083138 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1235083322 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235083920 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1235084124 0 :ehird|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1235084139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:43:17] it is in ML < 1235084140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ino < 1235084285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ino_(Greek_mythology) < 1235084305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that template really needs to be moved... < 1235084373 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does so. < 1235085208 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235085300 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235085303 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1235085911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're wife just doesn't get it. She's what we called normies (just a joke ha ha)" < 1235085917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only you had a brain. < 1235086187 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could wile away the hours. < 1235086234 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235086313 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1235086322 0 :BeholdMyGlory_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1235086527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://www.cjohansen.no/en/browsers/norway_tells_ie6_users_to_shape_up < 1235086529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your country < 1235086530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is amazing < 1235086531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1235086532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1235086552 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1235086563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I move to norway < 1235086605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, if you get work. < 1235086644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway is for most purposes in the common market < 1235086646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan I'll look after your swatter :-| < 1235086905 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there are restrictions on how much you can work at your age, i'm sure. < 1235086917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just work on the swatter a little. For a very modest fee < 1235086998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a _lot_ of bureaucracy to hire people here though. or so i've heard. < 1235087049 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm not sure if it's worse or better than the UK < 1235087486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:11:33 TINEBT (This is not Emacs, but TINEBT) < 1235087488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaaha i like it < 1235087515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : XINEBACEOX is not Emacs, but a copy of the expansion of X < 1235087518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xinebaceox XD < 1235087579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINGER is not genuine Emacs really < 1235087596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235087627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So SWINE is not Emacs? < 1235087631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1235087637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1235087640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1235087672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:23:17 CITRORI - CITRORI is the result of running itself < 1235087693 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1235087734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THISACRONYMSTARTSWITHT < 1235087735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235087742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disregard that < 1235087805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIARA is a recursive acronym, iirc < 1235087834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This haughty infidel says: "a cross only - never you must stray to a roaring tessellation saying 'What is this... holy! THISACRONYMSTARTSWITH!'" < 1235087841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235087843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This haughty infidel says: "a cross only - never you must stray to a roaring tessellation saying 'What is this... holy! THISACRONYMSTARTSWITHAT!'" < 1235087875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: discuss. < 1235087878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bad corners in there < 1235087880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1235087895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first R and the last A < 1235087913 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1235087921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: excuse me? < 1235087936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1235087939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually thisaconymstartswitht < 1235087981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1235087982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This haughty infidel says a cross revealed "O, never you must stray to a < 1235087982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :roaring tessellation saying 'What is this... holy ass! THISACRONYMSTARTSWITHAT!'"