< 1242173223 0 :Infinitismal!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242173241 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242175073 0 :nooga!n=marcinga@dpf193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242175087 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffuuuuuuuuu < 1242175120 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :porting mobile app written on windows to iphone -> 10022 errors < 1242175311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((:*)::*^S:):(f)~^(u)~^(c)~^(k)~^(!)~^ < 1242175311 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::*:*:*:* ...bad insn! < 1242175314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1242175365 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((:*)::*^^S:):(f)~^(u)~^(c)~^(k)~^(!)~^ < 1242175365 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1242175525 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^objC < 1242175526 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::d < 1242175754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242175754 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch bct befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242175766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even EgoBot doesn't have that < 1242175835 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^sadol !+*"1f+99*"1u+99 < 1242175854 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1242175856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo I use ! < 1242175856 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use ! < 1242175867 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1242175880 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !+*"1f+99*"1u+99 < 1242175880 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM: Invalid argument types for '*': string, integer (index: 2, row: 1, col: 3) < 1242175887 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old BDSM! < 1242175894 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it with fire < 1242175904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR accepts patches < 1242175930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1242175930 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ < 1242175953 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg bundles would be nice :P < 1242176002 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1242176052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you can also add things via the *interp commands, if it's written in a single file in a language that is already there < 1242176060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that doesn't recurse) < 1242176080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(programs can be URLs) < 1242176092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i added slashes < 1242176102 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help addinterp < 1242176102 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addinterp: !addinterp . Add a new interpreter to EgoBot. This interpreter will be run once every time you type ! , and receive the program code as input. < 1242176124 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1242176131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM2 is binary < 1242176138 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...............?! < 1242176142 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not F/OSS?!?!?!? < 1242176149 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1242176155 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but written in C++ < 1242176164 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx < 1242176173 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx cout << "I can do C++" << endl; < 1242176175 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do C++ < 1242176188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh' < 1242176213 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh... !addinterp c++ /msg geordi < 1242176257 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://regedit.gamedev.pl/BDSM/ < 1242176280 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile it and voila < 1242176317 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least unless my SADOL->x86 compiler written in ruby will be finished ;F < 1242176343 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh ... this seems to be the same version I already have ... < 1242176354 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1242176370 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !1!2 < 1242176371 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 < 1242176374 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242176378 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's the version I have. < 1242176385 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !*"1a2 < 1242176385 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM: Invalid argument types for '*': string, integer (index: 1, row: 1, col: 2) < 1242176401 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should multiply the string like perl does < 1242176429 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why that's not doing what you expect, but that is the version I have. < 1242176528 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1242176534 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1242176547 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Sadol newline-sensitive perchance? < 1242176559 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1242176567 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue < 1242176575 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaahhhhh < 1242176588 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that string multiplication was my private patch < 1242176593 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1242176629 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1242176672 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite old tbh < 1242176972 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add a command like !addfullinterp that downloads code, extracts it, configures it (if applicable), builds it, and !addinterps it < 1242177206 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol ~m2(6:r"0:s#_0:n#_1:i0@ Olympiad in Informatics < 1242177490 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1242177528 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!chiqrsx9p 9 < 1242177529 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of beer on the wall, < 1242177543 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stops at 64 :P < 1242177572 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when this is an international pub? :d < 1242177594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, i think 99 bob should be a kind of milestone for such things, like beethoven's 9th for cds < 1242177606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow, please increase the limit < 1242177637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it might be nice if the dcc chat repeated the first line < 1242177672 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4K should be enough :P < 1242177698 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show chiqrsx9p < 1242177698 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a user interpreter! < 1242177708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1242177721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: you are a bit confused < 1242177730 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think... sadol code looks quite cool, but the language is totally lame :C < 1242177740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show chiqrsx9p < 1242177740 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a user interpreter! < 1242177741 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242177744 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFBBQ < 1242177786 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I know why. < 1242177813 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show chiqrsx9p < 1242177814 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl (sending via DCC) < 1242177878 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bawww < 1242177885 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'9' was the problem :P < 1242177912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate this mac < 1242177914 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate osx < 1242177919 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate hate hate < 1242177930 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: http://www.debian.org/ :P < 1242177954 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol ~m2(6:r"0:s#_0:n#_1:i0@ The null program is a valid program that does nothing. < 1242179575 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes :( < 1242179586 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes it trivially simple to write a program :( < 1242179593 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a quine to boot! < 1242179616 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobs* < 1242179621 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to fix ShaFuck. < 1242179646 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: is there any nontrivial shafuck program? < 1242179650 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously) < 1242179670 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There almost certainly /is/ in that such a thing could exist, but it would take billions of years to find one. < 1242179719 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1242179940 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, how did you test the interpreter? < 1242179967 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I removed the sha'ing part to make sure the BF part worked, and made it output the sums to make sure the SHA'ing part works. < 1242180007 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should declare war on the warp < 1242180008 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, assuming that f(h0..h4, chunk) is a SHA-1 compression function where chunk is 512 bits long, the calculated brainfuck program is f(f(...f(0x67452301, ..., 0xC3D2E1F0, first 512 bits of chunk), next 512 bits), ...), last 512 bits, fixed 512 bits 0x8000...002000). maybe. < 1242180035 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHA-1 is a compression function now. Interesting. < 1242180037 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since SHA-1 preprocesses the chunk by appending padding and original length) < 1242180045 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that's exactly what a hash function is < 1242180069 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compression isn't useful if it's irreversable and not 1-to-1 ... < 1242180078 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not that sense < 1242180085 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, continue :P < 1242180085 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: lrn2crypto < 1242180095 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very usefull in a hash function < 1242180109 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: SHA-1 consists of preprocessing step and compression function, and compression function merges previous hash with current block of data < 1242180116 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for SHA-1 the block is 512 bits long < 1242180118 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf merkle-damgard < 1242180121 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes right. < 1242180253 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we have to search the program space exhaustively, we could use that construction as shortcut; only last two application of "f" is needed, other application remains same and precalculated < 1242180272 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin ports don't work < 1242180434 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, when can we expect the first ShaFuck hello world? < 1242180446 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: never < 1242180458 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming gregor stuck with the ascii version < 1242180466 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii version? < 1242180494 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii encoding of brainfuck, rather than the 3 bit encoding < 1242180526 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: unlikely, even MD5 is not totally broken (afaik best attack against MD5 is chosen-prefix attack, but it requires the known prefix) < 1242180528 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a standardized 3bit encoding? < 1242180554 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter? < 1242180562 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result is the same < 1242180580 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was asking out of curiosity < 1242180581 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: does that treat any non-command chars as error? < 1242180590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wwtf < 1242180593 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: the ascii one, yes < 1242180596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude transformed to girl again? < 1242180708 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creatures gender-bending: http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/genderconf.png < 1242180712 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes GregorR
< 1242180870 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: that is what makes it so hard, it is essentially impossible to find a legal program < 1242180888 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, it's surely harder than malbolge < 1242180892 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while with a 3-bit encoding you get something legal to start combining < 1242181042 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242181227 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Unary maps 0..7 to ><+-.,[]; MGIFOS maps 1..8 to ><+-.,[]; Braincopter maps 0..7 to ><+-.,[] and treats 8..10 special. < 1242181238 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :><+-.,[] mapping looks quite universal! < 1242181264 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay, mapping for two ternary digits is an another story) < 1242181281 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242181298 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is there a standardized 3bit encoding? < 1242181304 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i did some research < 1242181307 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant what was that about mapping to ternary < 1242181345 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, it's almost like "?" is completely ambiguous as to what the question's about < 1242181361 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: for example, Ook maps every command to two ternary digits (actually the "digit" is one of Ook. Ook? Ook!) < 1242181446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1242181446 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1242181470 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good brainfuck benchmark? < 1242181472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls/interps < 1242181472 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.26421: line 1: ls/interps: No such file or directory < 1242181476 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for compilers/interpreters < 1242181479 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several cases maps bf commands to similar thing; Cupid uses the digit of >, < or - and so on. < 1242181483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps < 1242181483 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l < 1242181495 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but Bub uses <>+-,.[] mapping. < 1242181511 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(swapped and ,/.) < 1242181541 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls -l interps/unlambda < 1242181542 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: interps/unlambda: Function not implemented < 1242181724 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/underload < 1242181724 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload.bin < 1242181753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload.bin < 1242181753 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.26570: line 1: interps/underload.bin: No such file or directory < 1242181761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1242181805 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload.bin - < 1242181805 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.26599: line 1: interps/underload.bin: No such file or directory < 1242181843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242181851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload/underload.bin < 1242181851 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: derl (-o|-a) [inputfile] < 1242181878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload/underload.bin - < 1242181878 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: derl (-o|-a) [inputfile] < 1242181887 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload/underload.bin -o - < 1242181887 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-: No such file or directory < 1242181949 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '(test)S' | interps/underload/underload.bin -o < 1242181949 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :testAttempt to execute unknown command 10 < 1242181966 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1242181972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn newline < 1242181982 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo -n '(test)S' | interps/underload/underload.bin -o < 1242181982 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1242182206 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is there any idea how to implement a half of bit data type? (like TURKEY BOMB) < 1242182292 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well TURKEY BOMB's BI_IT type is 0.528 bits, anyway < 1242182297 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bits long* < 1242182538 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It took you a lot of tries to get that :P < 1242182570 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242182979 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BI"Two thirds of a bit plus half a trit. " < 1242183015 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, that holds 2/3 log_2 2 + 1/2 log_2 3 bits = approx. 0.528 bits of information. < 1242183046 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i wonder that there is general principle for such types containing fractional number of bits < 1242183095 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is TURKEY BOMB implemented? < 1242183097 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or implementable? < 1242183159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A structure containing three other types, specified at compile-time, all of which must be different, one of which must be another HUMIDOR. " sounds impossible < 1242183174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ls interp/egobf < 1242183181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interp/egobf < 1242183181 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: cannot access interp/egobf: No such file or directory < 1242183186 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interp < 1242183186 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: cannot access interp: No such file or directory < 1242183189 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: never, as it is a joke language < 1242183193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/egobf < 1242183193 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTHORS < 1242183201 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww < 1242183208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to try programming in it < 1242183230 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1242183230 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1242183240 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls | xargs echo < 1242183240 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps lib slox < 1242183264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/egobf | xargs echo < 1242183265 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUTHORS COPYING ChangeLog INSTALL Makefile Makefile.am Makefile.in NEWS PORTING README aclocal.m4 config.h config.h.in config.log config.status configure configure.ac scripts src stamp-h1 < 1242183270 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/egobf/scripts | xargs echo < 1242183270 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile depcomp install-sh missing missing-real < 1242183285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the heck is the binary? < 1242183291 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 'src' 8-D < 1242183297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1242183302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/egobf/src | xargs echo < 1242183303 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile Makefile.am Makefile.in bfc.c bfc.h bfi.c bfi.h c2m c2m.c c2m.h egobfc egobfc-bfc.o egobfc-egobfi.o egobfc-optimize.o egobfc2m egobfc2m-c2m.o egobfc2m-egobfi.o egobfi-wib egobfi-wib.in egobfi.c egobfi.h egobfi16 egobfi16-bfi.o egobfi16-egobfi.o egobfi16-optimize.o egobfi32 egobfi32-bfi.o egobfi32-egobfi.o egobfi32-optimize.o egobfi64 egobfi64-bfi.o egobfi64-egobfi.o egobfi64-optimize.o egobfi8 egobfi8-bfi.o egobfi8-egobfi.o egobfi8-optimize.o < 1242183380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo '++++++++[->++++++++<]>.' | interps/egobf/src/egobfi8 < 1242183380 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1242183427 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addinterp ook perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ook.egobot.pl < 1242183431 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ook perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ook.egobot.pl < 1242183434 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter ook installed. < 1242183600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. < 1242183601 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No comma allowed after filehandle at /tmp/input.27191 line 15. < 1242183606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1242183623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ook < 1242183624 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter ook deleted. < 1242183627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ook perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ook.egobot.pl < 1242183628 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter ook installed. < 1242183631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. < 1242183631 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't exec "interp/egobf/src/egobfi8": No such file or directory at /tmp/input.27276 line 13, <> line 1. < 1242183643 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoilsport < 1242183647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242183658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ook < 1242183658 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter ook deleted. < 1242183660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ook perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/ook.egobot.pl < 1242183661 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter ook installed. < 1242183663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. < 1242183664 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1242183671 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck? < 1242183734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1242183767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook! Ook? Ook! Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook. Ook? Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. Ook? Ook! Ook. < 1242183768 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1242183822 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo Hewwo < 1242183822 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hewwo < 1242183849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook ++++++++[>+++++++Ook. Ook.<-]>. < 1242183849 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :##**11888 < 1242183854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1242183858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1242183862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ook ++++++++[>+++++++Ook. Ook. <-]>. < 1242183863 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ < 1242183883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cd interps/egobf/src ; make < 1242183884 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: Nothing to be done for `all'. < 1242186261 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242188109 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242188742 0 :oklodok!n=nnscript@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe3efa00-140.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242188768 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i cracked nim for the three number case. < 1242188775 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you read logs < 1242188856 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cracked as in found all triples that lose < 1242188966 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the "formula" describing them contains such a beautiful set of permutations there must be something very simple behind it, but it escapes me, as i'm just studying behavior, not actually trying to solve from the recursive definition of winning (which would require intelligence) < 1242189000 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles evilly
< 1242189004 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if someone, after hearing this, tells me how it works and it's so simple it fits a line < 1242189009 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will probably cry :) < 1242189022 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i will not do that yet then. < 1242189031 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242189032 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1242189064 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna solve this, this is already my third attempt, and this time i actually managed to solve enough to trivially beat ais523's enigma level, so it's at least somethin < 1242189105 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay first two attempts weren't really attempts, i was just looking for a trivial solution by enumerating the possible levels < 1242189255 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, why can't i be like a super math genius or something < 1242189351 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: on a scale from one to seven, how complex would you say the rule describing win-states is < 1242189367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1242189370 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242189373 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i thought < 1242189378 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bangs head to wall
< 1242189401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, given you know the necessary concepts. < 1242189411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am absolutely sure that you do. < 1242189430 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does, say, ehird know them? < 1242189439 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's going on? < 1242189453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be surprised if there was a regular in this channel which didn't < 1242189460 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm asking oerjan about a thing i don't want him to tell me about. < 1242189469 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usual stuff. < 1242189487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the necessary concepts? < 1242189490 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are probably several others who know the actual solution from before. < 1242189501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if we told that, it would be trivial < 1242189503 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's what i don't want to know < 1242189548 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodok: as a small consolation, i don't think i deduced the solution myself before reading it < 1242189653 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who didn't < 1242189665 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. probably the fact the permutation thingie i found arises from the solution is more mathematically significant than the actual solution is. < 1242189689 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what usually happens when trying to reverse-engineer sequences i guess. < 1242189780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nim... Nim... Oh, yeah. That was a weird game. < 1242189939 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, i'll give up for now, and retry in a few months. < 1242189976 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully no one tells me the solution so it can be my life's work. < 1242191331 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd o_O < 1242191347 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242191354 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is indeed awesome < 1242191424 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242191428 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242191725 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242192585 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242193469 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-122-163.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242193793 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242193817 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1242193828 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242193888 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242194664 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242194669 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242194692 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242194695 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :rixius < 1242194699 0 :rixius!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :darthnuri < 1242194774 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242194774 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242194896 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242195281 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242195967 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242196664 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :READ char -1 temp temp -1 char temp -1 NULL temp QUIT char WRITE -1 char char CODESTART char: 0 temp: < 1242197846 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242197880 0 :bsmntbombgirl!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242197983 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-57.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1242200301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : READ char -1 temp temp -1 char temp -1 NULL temp QUIT char WRITE -1 char char CODESTART char: 0 temp: < 1242200304 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Faaaaaaascinating. < 1242200343 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242200444 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just so purely context-free it was amazing ;P < 1242200467 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking through old code of mine < 1242200516 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cat in a subleq < 1242200886 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242200895 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242200975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, awesome. < 1242201008 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to see a MISC implementation though, MISC has a nice compact binary format. (The fundamental instruction in subleq and MISC is the same, right? Like, there's no difference on 0 or whatnot) < 1242201037 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has to not be written by me, because if it was I'd end up making a MISC ELF file format, and nobody wants that. < 1242201098 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1242201143 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this uses 12 bytes per instruction :/ < 1242201236 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1242201297 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, sorry, didn't mean "compact" :P < 1242201302 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really just meant "nice" :P < 1242201313 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually anything but compact, of course. < 1242201560 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the system call is called "unlink" < 1242201564 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1242201599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1242201600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1242201644 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That /is/ why the system call is called unlink. < 1242201653 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, if it was removed, then multiply linked files would be really wonky. < 1242201671 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's what i was explaining < 1242201689 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the only reason why anyone would say the line that's why the system call is called "unlink" < 1242201697 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to act psychic, in a silly way :P < 1242202430 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242202468 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242202472 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242203322 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242203325 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive had an idea < 1242203327 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242203369 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language in which there must be no ambiguity as to what is applied to what, thanks to types < 1242203450 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that for a large number of functions the notation would require that it be completely prefix or completely postfix < 1242203458 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY my computer left commerce city < 1242203470 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess obviously in postfix notation there never /is/ ambiguity so.. < 1242203515 0 :lereah_!n=lereah@nanpc319.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242203642 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242207511 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242211772 0 :nooga!n=marcinga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242213397 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242215466 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242215473 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242219282 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-116-197.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242220927 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-3-110.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242222185 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242222296 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one would happen to know how to do a statistical distribution that is, while random, constrained to have a fixed sum? < 1242222512 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242222853 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242222900 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242223005 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242223018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, how do you do the polynom bit < 1242223026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in esotope-bfc < 1242223035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the optimisation page seems outdated < 1242223281 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242223446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hi < 1242223451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1242223463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, did you write IWC today? < 1242223485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242223504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like DMM is unknown for puns < 1242223592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah but it was exactly in your pun style < 1242223603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the annotation < 1242223691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm sure it's not more like a reddit pun thread < 1242223709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i assume that's geeks everywhere < 1242223876 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides .sss is a good extension for slashes files
< 1242223881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/// files < 1242224519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, did you manage to implement BCT in it? < 1242224525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you still working on it < 1242224550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm currently rewriting my counter program to use the much simpler method < 1242224557 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is now simple enough to do by hand < 1242224558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242226009 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242226242 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242226260 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242226296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/counter2.sss < 1242226298 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1242226337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, EgoBot managed 89 lines < 1242226349 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some improvement from 2 :D < 1242226376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242226458 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242226458 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1242226463 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style pa < 1242226464 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: pa (around 1200 transcribed Penny Arcade comics) < 1242226467 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do stuff < 1242226468 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: oh, really? does he do american standard or freestyle? < 1242226471 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do stuff < 1242226471 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: if we're in the matrix." and over here, and here. recent releases. just pick one, and give it to me. < 1242226475 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1242226503 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242226506 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242226511 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you there? < 1242226512 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hi < 1242226513 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: fucking refs. those calls were bullshit! huh? bullshit, right? i don't think i want anymore. < 1242226521 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242226521 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa* speeches ss wp youtube < 1242226525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1242226526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style pa < 1242226527 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: pa (around 1200 transcribed Penny Arcade comics) < 1242226533 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a lie? < 1242226543 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah this time EgoBot hit the byte limit instead of time < 1242226604 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1242226604 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1242226611 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ic < 1242226611 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ic (INTERCAL manual) < 1242226615 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do stuff < 1242226616 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: for a bug is in the current directory will be casted to an imaginary label preceding it. < 1242226630 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%style c64 < 1242226633 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1242226633 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1242226637 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do stuff < 1242226638 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: this reference guide is designed to do this successfully, you could copy the contents of a photograph). < 1242226644 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDD < 1242226678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so you CAN'T copy the contents of a photograph on the C64 unless you want to do this successfully? O_O < 1242226704 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1242226705 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1242226716 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hath do not say thy stuff < 1242226717 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: slen. did her grand-sire leaue her seauen hundred pound? euan. i most unfeignedly beseech your lordship call her backe < 1242226719 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1242226719 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1242226734 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, let's have sex with little girls < 1242226734 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: fnord. all pale people are fnord no one can sing who has a cold.' < 1242226748 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Lewis Carroll say fnord? < 1242226868 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=emacs@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242226931 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1242227083 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4! < 1242227244 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242227355 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 factorial? < 1242227375 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some PROBLEM with 24? < 1242227435 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. no problems < 1242227460 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do. the day needs more hours. < 1242227702 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on my C64 kernel thing < 1242227709 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently improving putc to support a more defined "charset" < 1242227953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASCII. < 1242227973 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242227995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ff7 < 1242227996 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ff7 (Full script of the game Final Fantasy VII) < 1242228000 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242228005 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not PETSCII but ASCII < 1242228014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Winnitude. < 1242228014 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: over here. i'll see you. < 1242228016 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already parse chars $40-$7E < 1242228021 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except $60 < 1242228076 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, $40-$7E done < 1242228087 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ignore chars $20-$40 < 1242228091 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so $20-$7E actually < 1242228338 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh woah, I actually finish $00-$7F (i currently ignore $00-$1F) < 1242228341 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually finished* < 1242228387 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, DEL = Backspace... currently < 1242228440 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I ignore $00-20 (except 08 and 10) and process $20-$7F < 1242228558 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242228720 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242229423 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, something's wrong again < 1242229606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now the simpler counting program is on the wiki with some explanation. < 1242229678 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what counting program < 1242229690 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In /// < 1242229699 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints growing lines of asterisks < 1242229723 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242229730 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh, stupid C64 assembly < 1242229733 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Slashes#Simpler_counter < 1242230441 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242230576 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1242230590 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What my puts routing does now is output the first char, some spaces and the last char < 1242230702 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1242230708 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did lda, inx and stx on the same value < 1242230716 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point being lda, inx and stx < 1242230717 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1242230723 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i changed lda to ldx and it works < 1242230744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, lda, inx and stx < 1242230749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reminisces
< 1242230758 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i said < 1242230760 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the same value < 1242230767 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: feel free to help me < 1242230774 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird is (while learning 6502 asm) < 1242230821 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean to imply that i _know_ 6502 asm < 1242230838 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242230842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i did write my own disassembler to peek into memory < 1242230864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was a bit awkward as the manual lacked several pages of instructions < 1242230878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this was an Oric-1) < 1242230984 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Oric-1 and it's awkward graphic mode < 1242230999 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't have stuff to reminisce cuz he's too young to see an Oric-1 in his life
< 1242231041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked well enough for a bit of mandelbrot as i recall < 1242231087 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has 6 colors < 1242231091 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could only have 2 per a 6x1 block < 1242231096 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIK < 1242231134 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that rings a bell < 1242231172 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Watch and learn. < 1242231175 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I remember my Oric-1. < 1242231187 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought it three years before I was born, in a country I wouldn't go to for another 20 years. < 1242231195 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it's in the drawer next to me < 1242231206 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you OWN an Oric-1 < 1242231206 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned BASIC on my Oric-1. < 1242231213 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Oric-1 had BASIC? < 1242231217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it's my father's < 1242231227 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still is < 1242231231 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1242231236 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if yes, then GO AND PLUG IT THE HELL ON < 1242231247 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1242231249 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1242231251 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242231266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall it gave some horrible interference when i plugged it in < 1242231277 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242231278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may not be safe in a modern house < 1242231300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my only tv is in a closet < 1242231306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, our "2nd channel" is so strong it actually went through the C64 RF cable < 1242231316 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i could receive it (very weakly) through an RF cable < 1242231317 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUILT IN LANGUAGE Oric Extended Basic v1.0 < 1242231317 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1242231441 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls graphing trigonometric functions with it
< 1242231442 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, connect it to a TV tuner < 1242231634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi asiekierka < 1242232221 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242232440 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242232470 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :inurinternet < 1242233056 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@b-68.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1242233440 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242233900 0 :nooga!n=marcinga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242233904 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH! < 1242233914 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? :) < 1242233925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after compiling half of gnu things i've managed to install irssi on this mac fuc < 1242233973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: fail < 1242233974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use macports < 1242233977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sudo port install irssi" < 1242233979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1242233982 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, macports did that for me :D < 1242233986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242233992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made it sound more traumatic than it was then :p < 1242234025 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1242234041 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting used to this whole osx < 1242234054 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all in all it's quite pleasant < 1242234088 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242234103 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any sane irc client in mac os x, excluding console-based one? < 1242234112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: LimeChat! < 1242234118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://limechat.net/mac/ < 1242234124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ignore the stuff about RubyCocoa; the OS X version works fine.) < 1242234135 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that pleasure is comparable to having a big, warm cock in your anus < 1242234144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: erm. < 1242234158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just imagine the conversation died for 5 minutes. < 1242234159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242234169 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242234171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1242234176 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people never get this distinction: The anus is just the opening, the RECTUM is the cavity :P < 1242234178 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1242234189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Thanks. < 1242234189 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about this stuff < 1242234195 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not homosexual < 1242234223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1242234224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1242234225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1242234239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm lauxesomoh, basically I'm only homosexual if I'm going backwards in time < 1242234254 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wo, limechat looks better than colloquy < 1242234260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because it is. < 1242234269 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1242234274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colloquy's a buggy piece of crap that tries to avoid saying "channel" :p < 1242234283 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me DELETE colloquy.app from my Applications < 1242234297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and this theme is nice: http://julianstahnke.com/read/a_theme_for_limechat_colloquial/ < 1242234310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default ones seem to be either out of place or ugly < 1242234363 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1242234371 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i've got my irssi D: < 1242234386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you came out with some libraries and shit too < 1242234392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet irssi didn't take long to install at all < 1242234399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even compiled iirc, i think it's written in perl < 1242234406 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1242234427 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ports compiled perl, ncurses, glib, gettext and other stuff < 1242234434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you come out with that < 1242234435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :value-add < 1242234445 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242234473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the time spent installign irssi is not wasted if you like limechat :P < 1242234524 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242234534 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuise me, i not understand < 1242234554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:06 nooga: but now i've got my irssi D: < 1242234557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that meant like < 1242234561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i just spent all this time installing irssi < 1242234565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't like limechat < 1242234565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242234567 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242234606 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that i like irssi and i don't see a reason for installing lime < 1242234625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz lime's more maclike and better :p < 1242234646 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebh < 1242234650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebdj < 1242234729 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1242234733 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in ruby < 1242234746 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just loved it instantly :F < 1242234768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1242234772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: remember you don't need to install rubycocoa < 1242234778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one in recent osxs works < 1242234932 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1242234937 0 :nooga_!n=nooga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242234957 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nooga < 1242234963 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, i figured it out < 1242234964 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lime looks fine, it is close to my ideal < 1242234981 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242235046 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck < 1242235050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly themes are ugly < 1242235073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: use the Colloquial one :P < 1242235088 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1242235092 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses Growl < 1242235094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242235101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you have to click the alert to get rid of it, I'm not sure why < 1242235106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you can fix that in growl settings < 1242235111 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffuuuu < 1242235119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1242235127 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where was that theme? < 1242235132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://julianstahnke.com/read/a_theme_for_limechat_colloquial/ < 1242235283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1242235366 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1242235371 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's white and cool < 1242235379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: logs aren't enabled by default btw < 1242235387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to enable Transcripts in the prefs if you want them < 1242235390 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't need em < 1242235437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not in many channels you can resize the bottom window to nonexistance < 1242235444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it just shows messages from channels you're not looking at atm < 1242235477 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanx, did it at the beginning < 1242235531 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any other useful apps that you'd recommend? < 1242235626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glances at dock. I use Adium for inferior-to-IRC IM services, I edit some stuff with TextMate (and other stuff in other editors :p)... apart from that... eh... I use Seashore for basic image editing stuff? And Transmission for torrents. And I have a few VM apps. Oh. And Enigma's quite a fun game. That's pretty much all I use
< 1242235637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and I use Audacity for basic audio editing. My app selection is quite an uninteresting one. < 1242235706 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't afford textmate :D < 1242235742 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adium, transmission; got them < 1242235754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: It's $65... BBEdit, the "standard" Mac editor since the System 7 days, costs $99. < 1242235763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's quite a deal ;-). You can pirate it anyhoo. < 1242235763 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't enigma a remake of oxyd? < 1242235776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma's a remake + extension + lots of levels of oxyd and similar games < 1242235783 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arggggh < 1242235788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: what < 1242235790 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"out for delivery" < 1242235792 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, played oxyd magnum under dos < 1242235793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, Enigma < 1242235795 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and enigma under linux < 1242235807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma's #esoteric's official computer puzzle game :p < 1242235813 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool :D < 1242235818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. official unofficial. < 1242235820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how it is < 1242235859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: I THINK YOU SHOULD INSTALL ECLIPSE IS VERY GOOD JAVA ID*blown to bits* < 1242235883 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1242235930 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It may seem perverse to use a computer, that most precise and deterministic of all machines conceived by the human mind, to produce "random" numbers" < 1242235939 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNCLEAN UNCLEAN < 1242235944 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o o o < 1242235950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :State of sin. < 1242236103 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1242236113 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't crack textmate ;d < 1242236124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: search for a shady serials website and search for textmate there. < 1242236206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, a mac botnet was discovered < 1242236216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that people put trojans into "cracked" software < 1242236225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got people to install the botnet software that way < 1242236227 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1242236234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can't get trojans off serial keys. < 1242236239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, obviously < 1242236243 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not linux, i don't feel secure < 1242236246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that usually happens more with the Gnutella type networks than bittorrent < 1242236251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it's based on freebsd < 1242236254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything you should feel more secure :p < 1242236259 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeA < 1242236260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1242236291 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no such things like fishy cracks and shady warez for linux ;p < 1242236301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: sure there is < 1242236308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pirated Mathematica, you can get mathematica on Linux < 1242236317 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242236323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there aren't fishy/shady cracks/warezes on OS X; I've only seen serial keys < 1242236335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for mathematica i had to fire up a windows vm < 1242236620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, the EC just fined Intel £948m < 1242236639 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same bunch of people who keep fining Microsoft for anticompetitive practices, it seems they think Intel has been up to much the same thing < 1242236640 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what's with my home, end and del keys? < 1242236648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what about them < 1242236658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 948 million pounds ?! < 1242236674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that might almost be large enough to actually make a dent < 1242236675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1242236677 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end and home jump to end and beginning of a file < 1242236689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hell yes; Intel/AMD profits haven't been too good lately < 1242236701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel are apparently planning to appeal < 1242236701 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like s/a file/a line/ < 1242236704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revenue ▼ US$37.6 billion (2008)[1] < 1242236704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Operating income ▲ US$9.0 billion (2008) < 1242236705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Net income ▼ US$5.3 billion (2008) < 1242236711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hardly surprising < 1242236714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Cmd-left < 1242236715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmd-right < 1242236717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1242236720 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah < 1242236720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl-A, ctrl-E (from emacs) < 1242236734 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and delete does not work < 1242236740 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, a drop from $5.3 to $3.8 or so is quite a massive dent in net income < 1242236740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: which delete < 1242236743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forward or backwards < 1242236746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder Intel are so annoyed < 1242236751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1242236752 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forwards < 1242236755 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or on files < 1242236764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: £948m is pretty damn excessive... < 1242236777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, even if they are guilty < 1242236788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was for bribing manufacturers to not use AMD chips < 1242236791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they killed kittens or sth < 1242236816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : In addition to providing rebates to manufacturers that bought almost entirely Intel products, the Commission found that the chipmaker had paid them to postpone or cancel the launch of specific products based on AMD chips. < 1242236822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's more like "we'll cut this deal on our chips you want IF you avoid using amd chips in more than n% of your products" < 1242236823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1242236825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1242236836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, where n% is close to 0 < 1242236853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was that case a while back where AMD gave some manufacturer loads of free chips, and they refused to use them < 1242236854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a pretty quick decision < 1242236860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only heard about the case yesterday or the day before < 1242236863 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242236865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the case has been going for ages < 1242236870 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242236877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:47 ais523: there was that case a while back where AMD gave some manufacturer loads of free chips, and they refused to use them < 1242236880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hit the news a couple of days ago because the probable verdict leaked < 1242236881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would suggest to me that these bribes are gigantic < 1242236904 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, there are other reasons to not use a load of free chips, say if it would be too expensive to redesign your machinery to install them < 1242236909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they can handle the fine if they stop offering them :-) < 1242236915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242236933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In [Commodore] PET Microsoft Basic (3000 series only), typing the command “WAIT 6502,100” will fill the screen with the text "MICROSOFT!"[5] < 1242236937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing I love about all these fines is that they're added to the EU tax budget < 1242236938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—wp < 1242236942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which indirectly means lower taxes for us < 1242236945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1242236949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's fine every company! < 1242236957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ negative taxes < 1242236971 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> huh < 1242236974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only if they do something illegal < 1242236979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, most companies do, probably < 1242236984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's declare being a company to be illegal :| < 1242236987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and corporation tax is at about 30% or 40%, IIRC < 1242236994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(retroactively) < 1242237028 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable) < 1242237053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why people use Intel/Nvidia and AMD/ATI and rarely other combinations (even before AMD bought ATI) < 1242237086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really weird, especially since for a while Nvidia made very good AMD chipsets. < 1242237135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terrible theory: AMD seem to use more black and dark blue and red and other dark-sort-of-feeling colours in their marketing, and so does ATI. Intel is white and blue, Nvidia is light green. Perfect fits. < 1242237147 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius! < 1242237220 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242237238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TODAY IS SO YESTERDAY." — intel.com < 1242237238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1242237241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.intel.com/ < 1242237283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite a slogan < 1242237299 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read: "the future is teh win" < 1242237305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They would have paid their ad men more to come up with a slogan, but they've been fined a billion euros for breaching competitivity law." —friend, on seeing that < 1242237318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything related to current events is hilarious. < 1242237354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nvidia.com/object/GeForce_3D_Vision_Main.html ← 1. Sell 3D glasses for a load of money 2. Claim it's revolutionary 3. Profit < 1242237376 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The EU has been fining quite a few companies for antitrust. < 1242237388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*EC, and yes < 1242237401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, they *are* legitimate cases. < 1242237418 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US's stance on monopolies lately has resulted in a repeat of the early 1900s. ;) < 1242237433 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree, /someone/ needs to enforce the rules < 1242237443 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1242237447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the US sure isn't. < 1242237457 0 :WangZeDong!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-122-141.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242237460 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 10022 compilation errors i've got 9991 < 1242237464 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress! < 1242237466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["Copy Exactly" solves the problem of getting production facilities up to speed quickly by duplicating everything from the development plant to the volume-manufacturing plant.]] < 1242237467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo dawg, I herd u liek fabricators so I made a fabricator for your fabricator so you can fabricate your fabricators < 1242237472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suspect they've forgotten how to) < 1242237482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: There are people in the US who think that the current crisis is due to not enough people reading Ayn Rand. < 1242237492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the free market is causing issues, clearly what we need is MORE of a free market! < 1242237497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Ayn Rand is an idiot. < 1242237517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who agree with Ayn Rand are people who need a Darwin Award. < 1242237520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MARKET AWESOMENESS AS FREENESS INCREASES: Crap, Awful, Terrible, Unbearable, Crisis shitter, AWESOME < 1242237532 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1242237550 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hmm. Lack of regulation caused this. Obviously, we need to bring back Standard Oil." < 1242237903 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242238474 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some tool that is capable of building #include diagram ? < 1242238492 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to clearly show the whole graph, what includes what < 1242238512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certianly < 1242238513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed+graphviz < 1242238515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do't know of one < 1242238517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awk too maybe < 1242238519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *don't < 1242238530 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i am supposed to write that? < 1242238530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the correction < 1242238542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: wouldn't be hard < 1242238549 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1242238559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone remember the atari st < 1242238643 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-214-114-241.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1242239514 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-70.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1242239715 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242239737 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doxygen can, I believe < 1242239748 0 :bsmntbombgirl!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242240354 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-034-220.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242240443 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242240737 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242241225 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242241298 0 :WangZeDong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242241412 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-122-141.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242241449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1242241457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1242241519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to come up with an elegant way to merge across distance in the tree of bf instructions
< 1242241576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like < 1242241580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : p[1]=11; < 1242241580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : p[3]=0; < 1242241581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : while (p[1]) { < 1242241590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : // balanced loop here < 1242241594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1242241615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding that previous set to offset, and then convert into for < 1242241885 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotfl :D < 1242241907 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph came out little.... hairy < 1242241920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, what graph? < 1242241926 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from graphviz < 1242241929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242241948 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to adjust vertical distance between nodes? they're packed A BIT too tight < 1242242121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea (I don't use graphviz much), check man page? < 1242242128 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checked < 1242242143 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea which property does it < 1242243138 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1242244328 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1242244593 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe K? < 1242244789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it? < 1242245133 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried < 1242245135 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1242245140 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranksep helped < 1242245182 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242245293 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna see the graph? :D < 1242245335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1242245344 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1242245500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sv017.sendspace.pl/file/J2ey9Jf9/XuZGdVBByJRfdqhI/test.pdf ;D < 1242245609 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool huh? < 1242245709 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is your FACE < 1242245714 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242245715 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your face is pretty cool bro < 1242245732 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your fece is pretty cool bro < 1242245794 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want some < 1242245800 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can mail you my feces. < 1242245891 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, beer < 1242246033 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242246068 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1242246072 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :inurinternet < 1242246109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[British pub has exploited a loophole in the country's smoking ban by opening a "smoking research centre"]] < 1242246119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCIENCE WILL TRANSCEND FASCISM! < 1242246119 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1242246513 0 :tombom_!i=tombom@86.29.146.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242246740 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some sort of smoking-room at our university was labeled that. < 1242246741 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242246745 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242246934 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@rrcs-74-219-71-20.central.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242246949 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on SUPERSLO public WiFi at an airport < 1242246974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coo < 1242247107 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: my computer's here < 1242247114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: \o/ < 1242247127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my computer's here, because if it was somewhere else I couldn't IRC using it < 1242247138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: boot it up without putting it together < 1242247143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something that takes real skill < 1242247149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telepathic wires in the astral plane < 1242247152 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mostly done < 1242247156 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scared to turn it on :P < 1242247170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: do eet < 1242247180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of computer is it? < 1242247181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what os you putting on it? still undecided? :P < 1242247202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the one I assembled the parts for < 1242247206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you may as well try out the OS it has at the moment (presumably Vista?), to see if you like it < 1242247206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to replace his crusty p4 < 1242247207 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it has one on < 1242247209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1242247211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242247214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he bought it in parts' < 1242247216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/'$// < 1242247229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the choice would be a Linux distro, FreeDOS if you're insane, or Windows System Builder < 1242247263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr summary: Core i7 940 @ 2.9ghz... 12GB DDR3 RAM... ancient nvidia card... Intel X25-M 80gb ssd... 1TB storage drive < 1242247301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :final cost I think was $1,700 or so, right bsmntbombgirl? < 1242247313 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You left out the most important detail of all: what color it is. < 1242247316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps did you go and have another sex change? < 1242247328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the case is the oh-so-uncommon computer colour black < 1242247331 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242247339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black is the new beige. < 1242247412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : And beige is the new white. < 1242247413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that confuse me: people commenting on expensive computers saying "what a waste you could buy a car with that money". why would you buy a car if you use your computer much more? < 1242247416 0 :nooga!n=nooga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242247422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(beige Apple computers in 3, 2, ...) < 1242247436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Macs are alumininium these days. < 1242247442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: These are people that use their cars more. < 1242247451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242247456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Except iMacs. < 1242247462 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, about $1700 < 1242247466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no < 1242247469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the imacs are aluminium < 1242247472 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it booted! < 1242247474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Mac Mini? < 1242247476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 2007? < 1242247478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: \o/ < 1242247482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: silver-y < 1242247492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the only white product is one of the low-end macbooks < 1242247497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: how loud is it? < 1242247499 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what graphics card, out of interest? < 1242247503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. < 1242247511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: it's a really shitty passive nvidia :) < 1242247516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aluminium is the new white. < 1242247521 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold on < 1242247522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And beige is the new aluminium! < 1242247524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay not that shitty < 1242247528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242247534 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242247535 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/PowerBook_redjar.jpg < 1242247535 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tombom < 1242247536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe anyone actually liked beige < 1242247536 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am switching monitor and keyboard back and forth < 1242247547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: what did it boot in to < 1242247572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: yeeees? < 1242247587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody liked beige. Beige was merely a convenient color. < 1242247590 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh I'm sorry, you were talking about the modern PowerBook Pros, that's a Powerbook G4 < 1242247592 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's black < 1242247604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Modern powerbook pros? < 1242247605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242247610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean modern macbooks < 1242247614 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh whatever < 1242247618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Power anything went with intel < 1242247624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: what did it boot into? < 1242247631 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think I'd be able to tell that since I'm staring right at a (non-pro) MacBook X_X < 1242247649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L? Using a mac? < 1242247653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unpossible. < 1242247677 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah; early computers were beige so that they wouldn't stand out in an office. < 1242247685 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back when I got the iBook, el-cheapo iBooks were white, while all really-someone people had those titanium PowerBooks. < 1242247685 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, beige was used because beige is boring. < 1242247700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242247729 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Free :P < 1242247819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: ping < 1242247848 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1242247857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: you said it booted, what did it boot in to : < 1242247859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242247868 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bios < 1242247917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1242247943 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's one lame definition of "booted" < 1242247956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :P < 1242247959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More accurate: POSTed < 1242247960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you then get the no-OS error? < 1242247968 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242247969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert OS and press F1. < 1242247972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242247976 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb other monitor < 1242247982 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THIS DISK NO OS" < 1242248012 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booting... < 1242248015 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN HAS OS? < 1242248019 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Press F1 to continue] < 1242248033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE SHIT UP AND EXPECT THE COMPUTER TO MAGICALLY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, RETARDO! < 1242248039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Press F1 to continue] < 1242248047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[F1] < 1242248053 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keyboard not found. < 1242248056 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Press F1 to continue] < 1242248057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(—MJD) < 1242248071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F1 key not found. < 1242248075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Press F1 to continue] < 1242248094 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Critical failure computer will explode in 15 seconds omfgrunrunrun < 1242248111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The P150 laptop I have here is sort-of mid-gray, that's not such a common color: http://www.pcrtp.com/700CDT.gif (not exactly that model, but I think it's the same housing) < 1242248112 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Press F1 to continue] < 1242248147 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is that laptop from 1987? < 1242248154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 1990s. < 1242248158 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i have to decide what to install < 1242248160 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early 1990s :P < 1242248168 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.toshiba-europe.com/bv/computers/products/notebooks/tecra730cdt/index.shtm < 1242248182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1996, it says. < 1242248188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Heavy duty. < 1242248193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Raw speed. A 150 MHz Intel Pentium processor and PCI bus provide the kind of speed that would have been practically unthinkable in a notebook PC. Until today!" < 1242248194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Raw speed. A 150 MHz Intel Pentium processor and PCI bus provide the kind of speed that would have been practically unthinkable in a notebook PC. Until today! Now there's the Tecra 730CDT. " < 1242248196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1242248201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crackle, pop. < 1242248219 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Raw speed. A 150 MHz Intel Pentium processor" < 1242248221 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242248223 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1242248226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys < 1242248231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a 150MHz pentium! < 1242248232 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 12.1" TFT at 1024x768 resolution is essentially as good as in my iBook, though. < 1242248234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Raw speed! < 1242248239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even a Pentium MMX. Lawlz. < 1242248242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :slowpoke < 1242248244 0 :slowpoke!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :slowpoke_ < 1242248245 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Just not /much/ raw speed >_> < 1242248248 0 :slowpoke_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1242248249 0 :slowpoke_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1242248255 0 :slowpoke_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :150MHz pentium RAW SPEED < 1242248255 0 :slowpoke_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I late guys < 1242248264 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except that with only 2 megs of video RAM, you have to degrade to 64k colors if you want the native panel resolution.) < 1242248271 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Egolitarian < 1242248279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Is that a Pentium with the *FDIV* bug? :) < 1242248286 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think it has the bug. < 1242248289 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha X-D < 1242248291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242248307 0 :slowpoke_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1242248310 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242248313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, FDIV. < 1242248319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to at least recall Linux kernel saying something like "FDIV bug detected, working around it" in dmesg. < 1242248333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2160 million bytes hard disk" < 1242248334 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a line of m68ks that didn't have an FPU, and furthermore would crash and burn horribly if you tried to use an FPU operation, even though it's supposed to just have an unsupported instruction interrupt. < 1242248344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two thousand one hundred and sixty MILLION bytes! < 1242248345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW. < 1242248347 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They used them it Macs, and you can't install Linux on them :P < 1242248362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.toshiba-europe.com/bv/computers/navigation/left/products/page_icons/pi_tecra730cdt.gif Look at the red-faced man in the suit! < 1242248374 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They certainly are proud of their big numbers. < 1242248376 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the 2.16 billion byte hard disk and 16 MB EDO RAM (expandable up to 144 MB - yes that's one hundred and forty four MB)" < 1242248383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242248386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES THAT IS REALLY 144 IT BOGGLES THE MIND < 1242248391 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: His face is going to explode. < 1242248397 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have 48 MB in that thing. < 1242248405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lithium-ion battery Up to 3.0 hours" < 1242248411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up to THREE HOURS of CONTINUOUS USE! < 1242248437 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 6-speed CD-ROM drive; which is unable to read CD-RW discs; only CD-R discs work. < 1242248441 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I doubt I'd get three hours of use on this (if I was compiling every version of OpenOffice in the background) < 1242248450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242248479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nice, a nearly 2G hard drive. ;) < 1242248480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 2.16 billion byte hard disk, but only 144 MB of memory? < 1242248483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rather unbalanced < 1242248495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No beep - Power supply, system board problem, disconnected cpu, or disconnected speaker, " < 1242248498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— wikipedia on POST < 1242248500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've replaced the original 2.16 billion byte HD with a 2G compactflash card, though. < 1242248505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: haha < 1242248511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't blame you. < 1242248516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually purposefully signals no beep. < 1242248519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very Zen. < 1242248527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably stick 16G microdrive in there without too much issue. < 1242248529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242248529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sekrit code: < 1242248530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no_beep < 1242248533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : nop < 1242248536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ret < 1242248552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Spiffy. < 1242248566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3 long beeps - 3270 keyboard card" < 1242248570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit, your system is really broken? < 1242248572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1242248574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with it? < 1242248581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, y'see... it's 3270 keyboard carded. < 1242248603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: A system without a keyboard controller can't enter 32-bit execution. < 1242248613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow :-D < 1242248614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1242248639 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because enabling 32-bit mode involves sending a message to the keyboard controller, since that happened to have a free I/O line. < 1242248652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242248656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the chimes of death >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post error beeps < 1242248686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: how's your new system working? fried it yet? < 1242248747 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, god... < 1242248776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wat < 1242248826 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right: to enter 32-bit execution, you send a signal to the keyboard controller to *get it to stop hogging the 21st address line*. < 1242248869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242248910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And modern motherboards merely emulate that behavior, because 386 motherboards did it.\ < 1242248915 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to actually implement a full keyboard controller, you can do a system which has enough of the framework in place so that the A20 line.. < 1242248917 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1242248951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, i686-pc-* is such a screwy architecture. < 1242249143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the whole possibility of disabling the A20 line (forcing that bit 0) was there because they wanted the 286 to be backwards-compatible for some dirty DOS programs that assumed the memory to wrap-around when it went past 1 MB, since the original 8086 didn't have that many address lines. < 1242249187 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's cludge after cludge. < 1242249207 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha jesus < 1242249207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Nehalems are entirely backwards compatible to the original x86. < 1242249218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather entrenched. < 1242249223 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1242249227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: bah? < 1242249231 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised they're not backwards-compatible with the original 4004 :P < 1242249239 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just used windows for about 5 minutes < 1242249241 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was terrible < 1242249242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egolitarian: IA32 only. :-P < 1242249245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: ... why?! < 1242249245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egolitarian: The 8086 wasn't backwards-compatible. < 1242249256 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this computer doesn't have a cd burner < 1242249256 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS CALLED A JOKE < 1242249261 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE LEARN WHAT THAT MEANS < 1242249262 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: IA16, you mean. < 1242249266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: what os did you brun < 1242249269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: True enough. < 1242249279 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm downloading freebsd < 1242249281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no pikhq. < 1242249293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't run IA16 code on IA32/AMD64 machines. < 1242249296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Afaik. < 1242249302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: masochist :) < 1242249304 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can. < 1242249311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh < 1242249316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is in fact necessary. < 1242249318 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeBSD. Are you sure you want to do that? See: http://isometric.sixsided.org/strips/the_power_of_freebsd/ < 1242249321 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing wrong with windows, don't be silly. < 1242249327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom: ... < 1242249330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The processor starts in real mode, which is... IA16. < 1242249331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom: I will now shoot you. < 1242249339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom: I suggest suicide to avoid trauma. < 1242249342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh ofc < 1242249345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The processor goes into IA32 from there. < 1242249347 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242249366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bsmntbombgirl: what fizzie said. < 1242249373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've wiped out planets just installing bsd. < 1242249448 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot run 16-bit real-mode code while in 64-bit mode. < 1242249450 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can no longer run 16-bit code when the processor is in the native x64-64 "long mode", which is a pity. Well, at least the "virtual 8086" mode is gone from that, anyway. < 1242249457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1242249459 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, why do I always conflict with people. < 1242249462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't run 16 bit code < 1242249464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 64 bit mode < 1242249465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know? < 1242249476 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I never said you could. < 1242249487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that a Nehalem could still execute 16-bit code. < 1242249492 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the processor can run 16-bit code, just not while in 64-bit mode. < 1242249497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But guys < 1242249503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't run, when in 64-bit long mode, < 1242249506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16-bit code, < 1242249510 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............................................. < 1242249510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a modern IA32/AMD64. < 1242249512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know? < 1242249517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys, did you know that < 1242249522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis < 1242249524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis- < 1242249527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis- < 1242249528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-dot. < 1242249530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IA32 is a different architecture from AMD64. < 1242249533 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IA32 is a 32-bit architecture. < 1242249535 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did know that, it's why edlin was removed from x64 windows :( < 1242249536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Thus the slash. < 1242249549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can run 16-bit code on modern IA32. < 1242249552 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I use edlin, but I just feel like it should be there < 1242249555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: edlin was removed because ellipsis ellipsis ellipsis ell- < 1242249556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242249566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even run it on modern x86_64, just not in long mode. < 1242249575 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: And yet, ed is still available for equally-stupid people on Unixen :P < 1242249580 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the oldest program in windows and they just remove it like that < 1242249582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! I've used ed. < 1242249587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy. < 1242249591 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242249591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fruitful, sometimes. < 1242249595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:19 Egolitarian: Asztal: And yet, ed is still available for equally-stupid people on Unixen :P < 1242249610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although seldom used in modern times, Edlin may sometimes be used as an Edlin-script interpreter, in environments where no other editors exist. Scripts may look like Edlin command sequences and they may be run as: < 1242249611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edlin < script" < 1242249611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egolitarian: ed is about as old as ls. It's not ever going away. :p < 1242249616 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also removed DEBUG.COM from Windows 7. (I'm not sure what's the status of that in x64 windows; don't have any.) < 1242249616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If no other editors exist, how did they create script? < 1242249624 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edlin was the oldest? < 1242249626 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used edbrowse < 1242249631 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen ed used in a script in a very long time. < 1242249635 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think so. < 1242249644 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: edlin can be used on its own. < 1242249647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242249649 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.+.+.+.+.>--. [52] < 1242249654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, but it's a silly way to say it :P < 1242249655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242249657 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that was a good ending. < 1242249657 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.+.+.+.+.>--. [208] < 1242249670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242249670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242249671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242249674 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1242249676 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 +++++++++[>+++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>--.+.+.+.+.>+. [68] < 1242249677 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 +++++++++++[>+++++++++>+>><<<<-]>--.+.+.+.+.>-. [92] < 1242249677 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 ++++++++[>++++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.+.+.+.+.>++. [124] < 1242249680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can optamaze out the >><< < 1242249685 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, YOU can. < 1242249689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it runs too few iterations for it < 1242249691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1242249691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242249701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1242249716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two different, equally long solutions < 1242249724 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's what she said) < 1242249741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)))))) < 1242249774 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The amount of cells to use (and therefore >++++++++<-]>+.+.+.+.+. [1] < 1242249814 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's with -t 1. < 1242249826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found it < 1242249844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do -t 1000 < 1242249868 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It'll probably just use a single cell and do a 999-character >>...>><<...<<. < 1242249871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: so, how much did the 12GB of ram speed up the post < 1242249876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242249892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing takes up like a gajillion point four bytes of ram! < 1242249894 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-t 40 ends up in: < 1242249895 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :114 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-]>+.+.+.+.+. [1316] < 1242249902 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaaaaaaaaawl < 1242249919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1242249922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad < 1242249940 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wut < 1242249955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of immense curiosity, why doesn't that evolutionary algorithm use that for an upper-bound, rather than exactly what it'll use? < 1242249969 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd have to ask squidman. < 1242250004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks him with in the library with a monkey wrench
< 1242250010 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242250013 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 +++++++++++[>+++++++++>+>><<<<-]>--.+.+.+.+.>-. [251] < 1242250026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen 1234 < 1242250029 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 ++++++++++[>+++++>+>><<<<-]>-.+.+.+.>. [95] < 1242250029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242250029 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's easier to do crossover when the structures of the programs are so very similar. < 1242250035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't -t1 default then < 1242250059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Because it's inefficient for all but some special cases? < 1242250075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 +++++++[>+++++++<-]>.+.+.+. [1] < 1242250079 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; for sensible strings 4 seems to be rather sensible. < 1242250080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the best it come up with for 1234 < 1242250140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the -t one do really < 1242250147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"terms" it says < 1242250154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what are "terms" here < 1242250169 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit, why can't you find a live cd when you need one < 1242250169 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of cells it uses. < 1242250172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242250175 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty obvious from the outputs. < 1242250192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can't it evolve that too? < 1242250201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just another parameter after all < 1242250215 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm sure it's *possible*; it just doesn't do it. < 1242250266 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, it's probably a fixed number of terms so that it's easier to do a crossover mixture of two programs. (Though that's still just a guess; I didn't write it, after all.) < 1242250317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ java textgen -p 2 'Hello, World!' < 1242250320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: n must be positive < 1242250320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : at java.util.Random.nextInt(Random.java:250) < 1242250320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : at textgen.main(textgen.java:180) < 1242250323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1242250367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything below 10 in population results in that < 1242250399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should complain earlier. < 1242250408 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My version has for -p: < 1242250411 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : population = Integer.parseInt(cmdline[n + 1]); < 1242250411 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (terms < 2) { < 1242250411 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : System.out.println("Must have population of at least 10."); < 1242250422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" if (terms < 2)" < 1242250424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242250425 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I guess that test is botched. :p < 1242250428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242250439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the copy from EgoBot's source < 1242250457 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably the same. < 1242250472 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it needs at least 10 because (by default) it keeps the top 10 % of the programs for next generation. < 1242250497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's the "-%" parameter; and it doesn't test for -p+-% combined-sensibility at all., < 1242250507 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1242250530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen To be or not to be that is the question. < 1242250532 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :283 ++++++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>++>++++++++<<<<-]>.>>>-.<++++.<<++++++++++++++.+++.>>.>.+++.<.<--.+.>>++.<.>.<<.>.<<---.+++.>>.>.<<<+++.-------.>+++++.>.<<++++++++.>-.>.<+.------------.---.>.<<++++++++.++++.>.<--.+.>++++.++++++.-.>++++++++++++++.------------------------------------. [862] < 1242250582 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, even has loops < 1242250585 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one < 1242250591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all do < 1242250592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1242250607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 ++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>++>++++++++<<<<-]>.>>>-.<++++.<.+++.>.>.+++.<.>----.+.+++++.<.>.-----.<.<<++++++++++++++.>.>.>+++++.<<+++.<-.>>>.<.<+.>>-.<.>+.<<-.<++++.>>.<+++++++++.++++.<.>--.+.<++++.>-----.-.>++++++++++++++. [18913] < 1242250612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the best I got locally for it < 1242250620 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. You could just increment/decrement indiscriminately < 1242250625 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It always has one loop. < 1242250633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have more than one I think < 1242250637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen ababababa < 1242250640 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :55 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>+>><<<<-]>+.+.-.+.-.+.-.+.-.>--. [391] < 1242250646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242250654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen azazazazazaz < 1242250657 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :74 ++++++++++++[>>++++++++>++++++++++>+<<<<-]>>+.>++.<.>.<.>.<.>.<.>.<.>.>--. [205] < 1242250658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is always "p0 = N; p1 .. pT = N*(k1 .. kT); print things using the p1 .. pN numbers, sometime with +/- as needed." < 1242250659 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps if you recognized patterns. Keeping track of the variations and number of times to repeat might be cumbersome though < 1242250700 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, the p1 .. pT numbers. < 1242250765 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Individual.getCode method is responsible for generating it; it is physically unable to generate more than just that one loop. < 1242250785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !bf_txtgen < 1242250787 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :109 +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>-.>+++.<---.+++++++++++++++++++++.++++.----.>+.--.<------.>>-. [845] < 1242250832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 ++++++++++++++[>++>+++++++>++++++++>+++++++<<<<-]>+++++.>.++++.>>---.<++++.++++.----.<+.--.>------. [5697] < 1242250833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242250834 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it would take too long to just generally evolve an arbitrary brainfuck program to print out the desired string. < 1242250841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, probably < 1242250848 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmm < 1242250980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++<<-]>--.>.-------.<+.>+.+++++. < 1242250980 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1242250984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1242251005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, a simple folding pass over the string afterwards could remove those extra >><< < 1242251125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen 01234567890 < 1242251128 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 ++++++++++[>+>+++++>+++++><<<<-]>>--.+.>.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.<-.<. [171] < 1242251135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen 123456789 < 1242251137 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :48 ++++++++++[>+++++>+>><<<<-]>-.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.>. [242] < 1242251171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it adds a newline < 1242251197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen åäö < 1242251200 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 +++++++++++++++[>+++++++++++++>+++++++++++>+><<<<-]>.>.<.>-.<.-------------.>>-----. [166] < 1242251214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen € < 1242251217 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 +++++++++++++[>+++++++++++++++++>++++++++++>+++++++++++++>+<<<<-]>+++++.>.>+++.>---. [32] < 1242251245 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, € needs 3 bytes in UTF-8? Well, I guess the currency symbols are pretty high up there. < 1242251247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen €123456789 < 1242251250 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :134 +++++++++++++[>+++++++++++++++++>++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>+++++.>.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>---.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.+.>---. [580] < 1242251253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242251266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1242251275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gave me a 800+ char long string for that here < 1242251279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the ending newline < 1242251289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 937 gens < 1242251315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, 8000+ even < 1242251331 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bit random. Though that large a gap sounds unlikely. Maybe it got encoding-confused or something. < 1242251336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242251346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than 255 + after each other makes no snese < 1242251348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sense* < 1242251356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the java here interprets it as unicode < 1242251357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242251362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I think it did < 1242251382 0 :Egolitarian!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242251396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, http://rafb.net/p/jw47TY16.html < 1242251397 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might. € is at something past 0x2000, which is 8192 decimal. < 1242251416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242251440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242251447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when reading from a file it gives sensible results < 1242251450 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java's native character encoding is UTF-16, and I'm guessing it's using the platform default (hopefully LC_CTYPE, though I have no idea if it is locale-aware at all) to interpret the command line arguments. < 1242251455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not when passing it on command line < 1242251474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, LC_CTYPE=sv_SE.UTF-8 < 1242251493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that is a bf_txtgen bug! < 1242251500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try it with "LC_CTYPE=POSIX java ..." if you want. It might not make any difference, though. < 1242251520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäö -> 65328 long string < 1242251526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "LC_CTYPE=C", that's shorter. I think they should mean the same thing. < 1242251527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, triec LC_ALL=C < 1242251529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no difference < 1242251542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway LC_CTYPE isn't set, LANG is. < 1242251549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that means LC_CTYPE defaults to that < 1242251549 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Well, it's Java. < 1242251555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then LC_MESSAGES=C < 1242251561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8 < 1242251563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_COLLATE=C < 1242251566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_MESSAGES=C < 1242251571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest are implicit < 1242251573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes and? < 1242251576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it < 1242251608 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a generic sort of answer. < 1242251613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you mean " Okay. Well, it's Java." < 1242251614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242251615 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who knows why it works like that? It's Java." < 1242251620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1242251630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LC_CTYPE=C made no difference < 1242251633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, why is it C < 1242251638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not D for default or such < 1242251664 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does do something locale-related, because if I write "LC_CTYPE=C.ISO-8859-1" I get three .s in the output for € (so three bytes) but a bit over 64k + characters. < 1242251669 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's really wonky. < 1242251693 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that sort of locale specification even makes sense. < 1242251706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {A..Z} < 1242251706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z < 1242251710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {a..z} < 1242251710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z < 1242251716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {1..9} < 1242251716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 < 1242251727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far it's ok < 1242251729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug < 1242251730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but* < 1242251732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 java textgen -t 1 €" seems to generate reasonable output. < 1242251738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {A..z} < 1242251738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z [ ] ^ _ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z < 1242251743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {a..Z} < 1242251743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ` _ ^ ] [ Z < 1242251745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {1..c} < 1242251745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1..c} < 1242251751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these three are inconsistent < 1242251774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo {c..1} < 1242251774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{c..1} < 1242251775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1242251812 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1242251825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++[>+++++++++++++++<-]>.------------------------------.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-------------. < 1242251826 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäö < 1242251827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1242251879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo åäö < 1242251879 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäö �äö äö �ö ö � < 1242251886 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the broken. < 1242251895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo åäö < 1242251895 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :åäö �äö äö �ö ö � < 1242251902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah it isn't unicode aware < 1242251904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242251915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ooh! add that to choo < 1242251923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 parsing in bf < 1242251927 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to write it, sure. < 1242251927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds (NOT) fun < 1242251935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thanks, but no < 1242251978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can you give me one of your combined mad ones < 1242251989 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242251998 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Combined mad one"? < 1242252008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :combined ~ ' and so on < 1242252012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I mean < 1242252015 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1242252022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of combined chars in one < 1242252027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for max byte length < 1242252046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the ASCII tilde with a combining tilde both above and below: ~̰̃. < 1242252054 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a very good one handy right now. < 1242252093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242252112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais is the master of them < 1242252115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that's just five bytes; ~ is ascii, and the basic combining chars are two-byte ones. < 1242252117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>++++++++>++++++++++++++>++++++++++++>+++<<<<-]>++++++.>------.<+++++.>.>----.>+. < 1242252117 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~̰̃. < 1242252120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242252125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems wrong < 1242252127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1242252130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: protip: < 1242252135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1242252137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write the outputter naively < 1242252141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then run an optimizer on it < 1242252142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can output to bf < 1242252145 0 :nooga!n=nooga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242252146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, esotope w/ bf backend or something < 1242252150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could do serious optimization :P < 1242252164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1242252176 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fungot output looks different, yes. I get the different tildes sequentially. Don't know what's up with that. < 1242252177 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's been a horrific battle. < 1242252177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, go write such a backend < 1242252185 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Oh no! Where= < 1242252185 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but...... < 1242252189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, maybe copy-paste fail < 1242252192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: lazi < 1242252225 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: But what? The battle wasn't horrific at all? < 1242252225 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: time's up. i'm taking the treasure. we are off to save you all? how come holy isn't moving? < 1242252236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this style < 1242252237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242252237 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 darwin discworld europarl ff7* fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1242252241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1242252246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff7? < 1242252246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is it quoting verbatim? < 1242252247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1242252251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Final Fantasy 7 < 1242252257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242252259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII < 1242252261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>++++++++>++++<<<<-]>.>-.++++.<-.>>>.<+++.>++.--.<++.<<+.>.+++++++++++++++.-------.>++++++++++.<+.+++++. < 1242252261 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[.,]!fungot < 1242252266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242252275 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The single sentences are almost verbatim, I think; though "we are off to save you all?" does some sort of jump to get that ? there. < 1242252304 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: EgoBot doesn't do the "code!input" thing in !bf. < 1242252320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242252367 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>+++++++++>+++>++++>++++++<<<<-]>>.<-.++++.>-.+++++++++++....>-..<...>....<<-----------.>>>----.<..<......>>.<..<.......+++++++++++++++++++..--....>++.<<++.>>>.-----------------..<+.<++.>.-....>...<+.<--.>>--.<.<++.-------------------.>.<.....>. < 1242252367 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>><<<<-]>--.>.-------.<+.>+.+++++. < 1242252367 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1242252373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>++++>+++>++++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>>.>>-.++++.<<-.<-......>+++++++++++.....<..>>>-----------.<----.<<........>>--.<++.>>++.<++.<+.<.>. < 1242252374 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++[>++++++++<-]>.+. < 1242252374 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242252389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello, world! < 1242252392 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :126 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++++.------------.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [877] < 1242252402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++++.------------.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1242252406 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :627 +++++++++++[>++++>+++>+++++++++>++++<<<<-]>>.>-.++++.<-.+++++++++++.<-...>...>>-.<<<.>.>-----------.-----------------------------.<.>>.<-------------------.>.<..<<.+++++++++++++++++++.-------------------.>>>..<.<<......+++++++++++++++++++.>>.>...<<<.>.<--....>>>++.<<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------.>>.<.>>+.++++++++++++++++.<.<<----------------.>>.<.>.<.>...<<..>>.<..+++.>>.<.<---...+++.-.>++..<...<-..>..>..+.>--. < 1242252407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**EgoBot explodes** < 1242252416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is nicely cut off. < 1242252420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>++++>+++>+++++++++>++++<<<<-]>>.>-.++++.<-.+++++++++++.<-...>...>>-.<<<.>.>-----------.-----------------------------.<.>>.<-------------------.>.<..<<.+++++++++++++++++++.-------------------.>>>..<.<<......+++++++++++++++++++.>>.>...<<<.>.<--....>>>++.<<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------.>>.<.>>+.++++++++++++++++.<.<<----------------.>>.<.>.<.>...<<..>>.<..+++.>>.<.<---...+++.-.>++..<...<-..>..>..+.>--. < 1242252420 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++++.------------.< < 1242252420 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242252420 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, < 1242252425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242252427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sort of works! < 1242252429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. < 1242252433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graceful degradation. < 1242252433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242252437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the hello world on the wiki < 1242252456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's longer < 1242252466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the SHORTEST hello world in bf so far < 1242252484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing some shorter than the one egobot gave < 1242252695 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't fried it yet! < 1242252736 0 :fizzief!n=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242252743 0 :fizzief!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++[>+++>++++>++++>+++++++++<<<<-]>.>>>-.++++.<<<-.>>-....<-.......>>-----------.-----------------------------.<......>.<<....>..<...+++++++++++++++++++.>...<.<+++++++++++..>>..<--....>>-----------------.<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------.<..>>....>+.<<.<..>----------------.>......<<.+++..---...+++.++++++++++++++++..>.<--.>-.+.<.>>......>---..+++.-..<++.....>.+.---...+++.-...<...<.>>......<..<.<++.>---.>+. < 1242252743 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++++>+++>++++<<<<-]>++++++.>++.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.>+. < 1242252743 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1242252749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: heh < 1242252750 0 :fizzief!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1242252760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: it'll probably run too fast, get confused, and fry itself out of confusion. < 1242252773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a newline it gives: +++[>+++<-]>+. < 1242252774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem with fancy-schmancy computers < 1242252776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when using -t 1 < 1242252777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to use telnet for that, for some reason XChat splits lines far earlier than it actually needs to. < 1242252801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++. would be sorter < 1242252802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242252867 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gonna be soooooo fast < 1242252894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: that cpu cooler's gotta be making a lot of noise < 1242252915 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sitting right next to my current box so i can't tell < 1242252936 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll find out in a while how loud it is < 1242252950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: just be glad your gfx card is passive < 1242252952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gpu fans suck < 1242252960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: when in the bios did you check the cpu temp? < 1242252994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen 42 < 1242252997 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :36 ++++++++++[>+++++>+>><<<<-]>++.--.>. [176] < 1242253122 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242253393 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242253541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: your cpu is on fire fyi < 1242253577 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242253579 0 :nooga!n=nooga@dpu187.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242253591 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEER < 1242253675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A classic: linux-2.6.29.2/drivers/char/lp.c: printk(KERN_INFO "lp%d on fire\n", minor); < 1242253694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That predates linux, I'm sure < 1242253718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: values of β will give rise to dom! < 1242253735 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess so; that just happened to be the most accessible place I could get it. < 1242253741 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn < 1242253746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: did it explode :-( < 1242253750 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol no < 1242253766 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just having trouble getting boot media < 1242253781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux is so awesome that it doesn't need boot media < 1242253789 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, drivers/net/eexpress.c: printk(KERN_INFO "%s: transmit timed out, %s?\n", dev->name, (SCB_complete(status)?"lost interrupt":"board on fire")); < 1242253807 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the only two error scenarios for that chip. < 1242253818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242253838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like how the board being on fire is just INFO level < 1242253869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No worries, the board's just on fire." < 1242254095 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also drivers/macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c for the hardware monitoring on Apple G4 "windtunnel" models; there's an array fan_table with temperatures 55.0, 55.3, 56.0, ..., 60.1 degrees, and a final entry with raw number 0xfffff (corresponding to about 4096 degrees) and the comment "/* on fire */". That's about it for things being on fire, except the usblp driver has the "on fire" as one of the four possible status messages. < 1242254124 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242254210 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242254397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242254418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what about when we invent supernova based cooling < 1242254424 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what was that thing you've said i need to instal for dock? < 1242254431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cause an insy winsy little supernova and just ride the CPU on that < 1242254433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what? < 1242254437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be more specific :p < 1242254467 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1242254479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The "lp on fire" error comes from early, early UNIX systems. < 1242254481 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked what else do i need besides limechat < 1242254486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ah < 1242254487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the time, the printer could, in fact, be on fire. < 1242254488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242254493 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've said something about *** for dock < 1242254502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION greps.
< 1242254514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:25 nooga: any other useful apps that you'd recommend? < 1242254515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:27 ehird glances at dock. I use Adium for inferior-to-IRC IM services, I edit some stuff with TextMate (and other stuff in other editors :p)... apart from that... eh... I use Seashore for basic image editing stuff? And Transmission for torrents. And I have a few VM apps. Oh. And Enigma's quite a fun game. That's pretty much all I use < 1242254518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:27 ehird: Oh, and I use Audacity for basic audio editing. My app selection is quite an uninteresting one. < 1242254534 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242254549 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is broken < 1242254549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's recommended anything for a dock. < 1242254556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarr < 1242254557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from, say, OS X. :p < 1242254570 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, floppy drives are slow < 1242254575 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that you recommend something called 'glances' for dock :D < 1242254578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: what on earth are you doing < 1242254582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo:-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1242254584 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242254584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: No, really? < 1242254584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242254590 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just parse error < 1242254600 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to resolve that graph i showed < 1242254606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show us < 1242254611 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: They're from an era where a 12k modem was very freaking fast. < 1242254616 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every node stands for quite big file < 1242254729 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-122-141.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242254753 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1242254757 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sv017.sendspace.pl/file/J2ey9Jf9/eUF5lGkJ8pv81sVm/test.pdf < 1242254761 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gross < 1242254844 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there was all that C65/1541 talk earlier, here's another good thing about the floppy drive's programmability: the implemented-in-the-ROM serial protocol had the blazing speed of about 2400 bps, which in other units is 1 floppy / 10 minutes; but since it's programmable, you can write a fast-loader which can transfer floppy -> C64 at speeds of around 30 kbps. < 1242254854 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what do you say? :d < 1242254859 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242254865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, a set containing sets. Confusing < 1242254869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no that isn't same set < 1242254870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i can't read polish, where's the download button < 1242254875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: {{1,2},{3,4}} is confusing? < 1242254880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the first is a set as in the data structure. The second is a [-] set < 1242254880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: the big purple one. < 1242254885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242254887 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242254888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a set containing locations of [-] < 1242254889 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1242254889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242254891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: wow that's pretty < 1242254895 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that's the direct link < 1242254897 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1242254901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which is confusing < 1242254907 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, the C64 floppy was damned cool. < 1242254912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10022 compile errors < 1242254927 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm trying to resolve this mess and compile it for iphone :D < 1242254928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, see what I mean now? < 1242254932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242254936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242254942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to figure out better names for it
< 1242254961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using the sets module, and the instruction is called set. < 1242254963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242254967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i like want to use a scaled down version of that graph as an ornamental header on something < 1242254989 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ass ;/ < 1242254999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. Your ass. < 1242255002 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :porting this lib is impossible < 1242255060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The drive itself had an OS. :) < 1242255067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes. < 1242255077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was more powerful than the C64 as I've said. < 1242255082 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1242255106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C64 floppy drive had a 6502, the C64 had a 6510. < 1242255113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1242255117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 6510 being a 6502 with an additional I/O port. < 1242255118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the muhurts was more. < 1242255122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like the rank-style graph, you can use the spring-based graphviz layouters like "neato" or "fdp"; those tend to generate more compact stuff. (Though usually that equals to unreadable; then you'll have to add some "avoid overlap" and "route edges" options, and wa-boom, suddenly your reasonable "not very many hundreds of nodes" graph takes multiple hours to layout.) < 1242255137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Wow. < 1242255143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wat < 1242255185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a clever C64 programmer could temporarily replace the floppy drive's OS and have a sort of NUMA multiprocessing setup going. < 1242255201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1242255213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something about that that makes me smile. < 1242255223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to overclock a c64 to 5mhz < 1242255227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put a fan on it < 1242255245 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i rendered this graph again with coloring specific nodes placed in groups and printed it < 1242255245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could daisy-chain those floppy drives. < 1242255248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it the C-64 elite < 1242255249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242255251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"8 processors! Oh yeah!" < 1242255251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :-D < 1242255258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it occupies the wall in my office < 1242255258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1242255262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Overclock the floppy drive. < 1242255268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To 5mhz. < 1242255273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :list:reverse(List) makes sense. But why list:reverse(List,Tail) < 1242255277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUPERCOMPUTER CLUSTER < 1242255281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it appends the non-reversed Tail < 1242255283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I overclocked everything. *Everything*." < 1242255286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after reversing the List < 1242255288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: efficient list operation < 1242255290 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i've seen something rly cool < 1242255291 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1242255295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid name tho < 1242255299 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I printed a couple of A4-sized copies of The Fungot Graph; I don't think I remembered to try the A3 (i.e. readable) version. < 1242255299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, I ended up using it. < 1242255301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, I suspect you can't overclock the main C64 chip all that well. < 1242255305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what about the tape drive < 1242255309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ooh < 1242255315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an extension that PRESSes PLAY ON TAPE automatically < 1242255316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just couldn't figure out why 1) that name 2) anyone else would need it < 1242255317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242255318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its clock speed is a function of the display speed. < 1242255323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah < 1242255336 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The floppy drive, though... < 1242255337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems rather kind of uncommon < 1242255347 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the CPU has anything to do with the serial bus speed. ;) < 1242255387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: overclock the floppy so it needs a fan < 1242255389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Since you like graphs, http://www.cis.hut.fi/htkallas/fungotsmall.png -- you can remove the word "small" if you want the 7485x15016-pixel version. < 1242255389 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aerith just blurted that out all the way. < 1242255390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have a cluster of 8 < 1242255394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be about as loud as an old pc < 1242255400 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmfHHLfbjNQ << this is just fucking awesome !!!!!!!!11111111 < 1242255414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that thing < 1242255418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty neat < 1242255425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so's the original song) < 1242255453 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dow did you manage to make it so tidy? < 1242255456 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how* < 1242255460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oooh. You could hook two C64s to a single floppy drive. < 1242255473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Awesome. < 1242255477 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7485x15016 pixels would kill this computer < 1242255483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just a 8-core NUMA system... < 1242255485 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll look at it when i get the new one booted :D < 1242255489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: :-D < 1242255494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Beowulf cluster. < 1242255497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242255497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: how many bogomips is it? < 1242255500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: haha < 1242255504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we so have to do this < 1242255505 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1242255506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1242255513 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1242255519 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: The "fungotsmall" version is just 1497x3003. < 1242255522 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Get a webserver on this baby. < 1242255536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: shit, you could distribute a contiki instance across it < 1242255541 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some tweaking of graphviz parameters involved; don't remember them at all. < 1242255550 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High-performance Contiki. < 1242255570 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bass by scanner is orgasmic :D < 1242255597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: if you like that stuff then < 1242255599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.treewave.com/ < 1242255613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C128 has a 6502-like CPU too, and it's officially "overclockable" (if you can call it that) 1 -> 2 MHz, if you don't mind the fact that the video chip can't live at that speed. (But you can use the C128-specific video chip which can do a 80x25 text mode, if you have a suitable digital-interface monitor.) < 1242255624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use c64s, atari 2600s, compaq portable iis, epson lq500 dotmatrixs < 1242255626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make musak < 1242255643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul slocum is pretty cool < 1242255743 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And speaking of SMP, the C128 *also* has a 2 MHz Z80 processor (for CP/M mode)... though for hardwarey reasons you can't run the 8502 (6510 + the 2 MHz mode) and the Z80 simultaneously. < 1242255747 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: kewl < 1242255754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hack it so it can! < 1242255777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, not many dual-processor machines have dual processors of completely different architecture. (Though the DS with ARM9+ARM7 is not that far off, and at least those can run simultaneously.) < 1242255778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Probably each CPU has full control over the memory. < 1242255781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By paul slocum, a c64 synthy thingy: http://qotile.net/cynthcart.html < 1242255800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The Wii has two processors. < 1242255810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is a PowerPC, for running the game code. < 1242255816 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is an ARM, for running the DRM code. < 1242255823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has a second processor for DRM. < 1242255834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qotile.net/files/cynth1_2_4.prg It's very small for a synthesizer. < 1242255841 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A possibly unique feature of the C128 among CP/M systems was that some of the low-level BIOS services were executed by the 8502 chip instead of the Z80. The latter transferred control to the 8502 after having placed the pertinent parameter values in designated memory locations. The Z80 then turned itself off, being awoken by the 8502 at completion of the BIOS routine, with status value(s) available in RAM for inspection." Heh, freaky. < 1242255851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's the Gameboy Advance. < 1242255863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Z80 and an ARM7. < 1242255866 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't run simultaneously) < 1242255872 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, for GB compatibility. < 1242255881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Playstation 2. < 1242255886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, the Playstation 2. < 1242255909 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad they dropped GB compatibility from the DS; it would've had ARM9+ARM7+Z80 then. < 1242255982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PS2 featured a 32bit and 64bit MIPS. < 1242255988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In PS2 mode, both ran simultaneously. < 1242256054 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consoles tend to be rather... idiosyncratic, re hardware. < 1242256058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall it having another processor shoved in there, though. < 1242256076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: With the exception of the Xbox. < 1242256089 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Never mind; the Xbox was quite idiosyncratic. < 1242256100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of it's Wintel legacy. XD < 1242256147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The Xbox 360 uses a powerpc (seriously) < 1242256152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three cores, too. That's quite odd. < 1242256156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a high-for-a-console 3.2ghz speed. < 1242256201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, not much memory. < 1242256203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 512 < 1242256223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, We need an irc bot for esotope. To see how much it optimises :P < 1242256232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is too lazy to use it locally
< 1242256265 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The Xbox 360 uses a Cell PPU. Even weirder. ;) < 1242256294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, I bet one day GPUs will change their name. We'll have sequential processing units and concurrent processing units. < 1242256302 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sorry, the next exams are ahead; i will be away for a while. < 1242256314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1242256321 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(indeed the next one is after 7.5 hours! :S) < 1242256382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, the 8086 had 5x the mhz of the ntsc c64 < 1242256388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :several years earlier < 1242256391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more expensive ofc < 1242256690 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242256700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi coppro < 1242256705 0 :chromakode!n=chromako@unaffiliated/chromakode JOIN :#esoteric < 1242256707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: has it exploded yet? < 1242256716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi chromakode < 1242256720 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU #7 Started! < 1242256724 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey :) < 1242256724 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU #6 Started! < 1242256727 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU #5 Started! < 1242256732 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: what can you tell me about bsmntbombgirl < 1242256732 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU #4 Started! < 1242256734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: aiee, you've got hyperthreading enabled? < 1242256739 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242256741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: Er... what's going on? < 1242256747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: that thing plays hell with the cache i hear < 1242256750 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242256767 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: hehe, just trying to tell if he's full of shit in #askreddit or not :) < 1242256777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: oh, what's he saying < 1242256783 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm good IRL friends with GregorR so I thought I'd make a query < 1242256786 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1242256801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you know GregorR? I just recognized your name from reddit. < 1242256812 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1242256814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we've got an IRL friend of Gregor? Interesting. < 1242256834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: *poke* < 1242256845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come out, thy hattedness! < 1242256869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this single-core Atom 230 thing, and the interwebs refused to tell me whether it's a good idea or not to turn HyperThreading on on it; in the end decided not to, since it probably won't really be doing more than one thing at a time anyway. < 1242256899 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn < 1242256910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: For the Atom, you'll probably benefit. < 1242256916 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, since it's called "Core i7", it really should have 7 cores.) < 1242256916 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor pipelining and all that. < 1242256928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just like the Core 2 only comes in dual-core versions. < 1242256972 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least they add the "quad" in there even in the marketed names; I haven't seen i7 things referred to except by mysterious numbers. < 1242256983 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen at least 50% of Gregor's hats in real life. < 1242256989 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the badass one with the tassel. < 1242256995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: Can I have your autograph? < 1242257004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel decided that the mysterious numbers were "more meaningful". < 1242257018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: All i7s are quad-core. < 1242257030 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: We've seen www.choosemyhat.com . ;) < 1242257034 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, but there is no sense of four-ness in the name. < 1242257044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Dual-core and oct-core versions have yet to ship. < 1242257048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It has two letters, which is half of four. < 1242257055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm pretty sure they've yet to be announced < 1242257077 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have a GCC with "-mtune=atom" capabilities; I guess those are not going to be in the 4.3 series. :/ < 1242257098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an -mtune=i7, I wonder? < 1242257110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could do something w/ the puny l2 < 1242257122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: do you even know what this channel is about? about half of our visitors don't < 1242257131 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs < 1242257146 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. has anyone ever taken 5 classes a day during a semester? < 1242257147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats. < 1242257148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you belong to the other 0.5%, clearly. < 1242257153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, reverse that. < 1242257158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, rather, flip it. < 1242257169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mix it down. < 1242257171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and drop the dot. < 1242257174 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesh. too much >_< < 1242257182 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack, Gracenotes hangs out here to < 1242257184 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1242257185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I've known someone who did. < 1242257199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was on the Uberman sleep schedule for most of it, too. < 1242257208 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap < 1242257208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl did uberman! < 1242257209 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be in class for a total of 7 hours on monday. largely split up. < 1242257210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not a stalker. < 1242257214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION had a crazy roommate.
< 1242257229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will have said roommate again next semester. :)
< 1242257236 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case I've have a max of 3 hours on all other days < 1242257240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what "drop lack of tea" does in the HHGTTG game. < 1242257260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Try it! < 1242257265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure this. < 1242257266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1242257321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Your common sense tells you that you can't do that." < 1242257327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common sense? Is this the hitchhiker's guide I know? < 1242257328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1242257362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give it a break, man. Arthur Dent has to hold onto *something*. < 1242257377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop something < 1242257380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from the clothes on his back, I mean. < 1242257400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he only has clothes on his back? < 1242257411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Maybe by now. < 1242257773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: it'll be faster to disable hyperthreading in most cases < 1242257802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. The Atom was based on the Pentium *3*. < 1242257813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which had good pipelining. < 1242257832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, hyperthreading on the Atom is just pointless. < 1242257981 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why? < 1242258000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: ask pikhq; he found some shit about hyperthreading < 1242258006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically: your cache will pay, iirc < 1242258009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: Hyperthreading is a hack to get around bad pipelining. < 1242258014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: also, there's some security issues < 1242258021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it has, as a side effect, a terrible impact on your cache. < 1242258035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see for instance http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/ < 1242258037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the Pentium 4, it was beneficial. < 1242258056 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the Pentium 4 had gobs of cache and some of the worst pipelining out there) < 1242258061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242258067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the i7 only has 256K of l2 cache < 1242258068 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there's not < 1242258075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On anything else, and I mean anything else, it just creates cache misses. < 1242258075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: uh? < 1242258083 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the same issue when you have shared cache < 1242258093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: the L2 cache on the i7 isn't shared < 1242258095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the L3 is though) < 1242258095 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the i7 has a shared l3 so... < 1242258099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the other arguments sitll apply < 1242258136 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that link is just about the shared cache stuff < 1242258150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: loads of cache misses, not an appreciable performance benefit (are you really using 8 threads? does it outweigh the disadvantages?), and it's a hack to get around bad pipelining < 1242258151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1242258159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Pronounced "kwed.") < 1242258162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*". < 1242258205 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pentium 4s tended to have at least 1M of L2 cache... < 1242258211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242258230 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were some with 2M. < 1242258256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cache misses on an Atom will just be painful. < 1242258340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Holy fuck, Atom chips are overpriced. < 1242258367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err? they're for budget netbooks < 1242258389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: AMD sells dual-core Phenoms at similar price points. < 1242258405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't buy a dual core Phenom for the cost of a cheap Atom box. < 1242258406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the cheapest one is reasonable. < 1242258417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=91 < 1242258419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$249 < 1242258433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpu only takes 8 watts, amazingly < 1242258449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a triple-core Phenom almost completely specced for $200. Short a hard drive. < 1242258455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242258473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and an optical drive. :/ < 1242258488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that one has no optical drive too :P < 1242258498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: how goes your system < 1242258503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well then. < 1242258510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure enough. < 1242258511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but it isn't prebuilt < 1242258513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prebuilts always cost more < 1242258524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1242258544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme see what I could get an 80G HD for. < 1242258569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I configured a complete dual-core system for a little over $200. It wasn't good, but for most people it'd do just fine. < 1242258577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the having to build it thing < 1242258611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Athlon X2 4050e @ 2.1ghz, 2GB of RAM, 160GB harddrive. < 1242258622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware's cheap < 1242258638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously; the cpu's just $39.99 < 1242258649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$33 for an 80G drive. Whoo. < 1242258657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole thing comes to $222.41 < 1242258676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moral of the story: prebuilts cost more. < 1242258676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inc. a 52x cd burner, floppy drive, case and 380w power supply < 1242258707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i7 systems cost a lot due to the DDR3 requirement < 1242258727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, DDR3 is pricy. < 1242258737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pricy and also delicious. < 1242258761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delicious I say! < 1242258831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels sorry for ehird's stomach
< 1242258843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a silicon-based lifeform. < 1242258869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Putting the pro back in power" —OCZ marketing < 1242258873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prower. < 1242258885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels sorry for ehird, then.
< 1242258894 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your grocery shopping must be pricy as hell. < 1242258895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What's wrong with silicon :< < 1242258897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242258906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No kidding; I'm watercooled. < 1242258911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I still drink human fluids. < 1242258917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They transfer heat well. < 1242258931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Human fluids? < 1242258938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away from the Si-based vampire
< 1242258941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242258952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wait, you point that out and then just think *blood*? < 1242258977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blood is one of the more prevalent human fluids. < 1242258987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's as maybe. < 1242259003 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you could mean piss, instead. < 1242259013 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my blood is very nutritious! It has iron! < 1242259033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No. That did not even cross my mind. :-P < 1242259041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: could you extract just the iron please < 1242259044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: My caffeine stream is very nutritious! It has trace nutrients such as blood! < 1242259073 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, you know what they say about hormones in food nowadays. I'm betting that my blood is crawling with all sorts of hormones < 1242259085 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to beware