< 1242259206 0 :chromakode!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242259247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombgirl: btw, you might wanna memtest sometime < 1242259254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since 12gb is a loooot < 1242259279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION memtests whenever he obtains a new motherboard, CPU, or RAM...
< 1242259294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would memtest, but it takes houuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurs. < 1242259303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, let it run overnight.. < 1242259319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, I probably will sometime with the new box. < 1242259331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my other computers just aren't quiet enough to leave on overnight though ;-) < 1242259336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, even this one. I have bat ears. < 1242259356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been worth the effort in the past. < 1242259357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have separate bedroom :D < 1242259379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Unfortunately, cramped architecture dictates. < 1242259382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or leave it on over-day and read a book / go outside? < 1242259391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this "book"? < 1242259393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my current motherboard has a *memory slot* that causes errors) < 1242259397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, "outside"? < 1242259400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out ... side? < 1242259402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you be out of a side? < 1242259406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes no sense. < 1242259419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, You know what a kindle is right? < 1242259432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the Amazon thing < 1242259437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh! Something to do with a fire? ...In the amazon? < 1242259443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242259454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to kindle (third-person singular simple present kindles, present participle kindling, simple past and past participle kindled) < 1242259454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(transitive) To start (a fire) or light (a torch). < 1242259455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the "ebook reader" < 1242259456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please kindle a fire in the barbecue. < 1242259459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH, wait < 1242259460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindle (plural kindles) < 1242259462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obsolete) A collective term for a group of kittens. < 1242259464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kindle of kittens. < 1242259466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! kittens! < 1242259466 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a Big Blue Room thing. ;) < 1242259468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242259468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what kittens are. < 1242259487 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor are books. < 1242259489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well what about wikipedia. You know what it is? Now imagine it printed on paper. < 1242259497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of a side, though. < 1242259502 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242259508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ...Why would I kill trees? < 1242259510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, paper being thin sheets made of dead wood < 1242259518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, good question! < 1242259519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor wood... < 1242259520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1242259527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a wood vegan. < 1242259534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't eat wood eiter < 1242259536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either* < 1242259544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too!!!! < 1242259549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242259554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what ehird's house is made of
< 1242259559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: DIGITAL! < 1242259566 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242259568 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1242259571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1242259573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My house is made of digital. < 1242259579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be concrete... < 1242259583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing that keeps you seperated from the daystar? < 1242259598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242259599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :daystar? < 1242259601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day... star? < 1242259603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day star trek? < 1242259604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1242259605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1242259609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a BAD case < 1242259629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Is there a door that you don't use very often? < 1242259648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! Inside there is the thing that blinds you. I do not go there! < 1242259649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, open it. You should see the Big Blue Room. < 1242259655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...big? How big. < 1242259665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larger than the Internet. < 1242259666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me go and look... < 1242259679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the day star is the thing that blinds you. < 1242259683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the thing that blinds you is called the "sun" or "day star". The former being a more common name. < 1242259691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I looked at it but there was no light in there so I couldn't see and when I put my hand in to find a lightswitch it was cold. < 1242259704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, it is midnight in UK now I think < 1242259705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must not be very well maintained! < 1242259705 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh, it's not day. < 1242259708 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't see the daystar, then. < 1242259728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sounds like one of those fairytails. You know, Santa, Tooth Fairy, Allah, Day star... < 1242259731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fairytales < 1242259732 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will see the nightstars. < 1242259741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it is clouded < 1242259742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightstar*s*? < 1242259745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pull the other one! < 1242259757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't blind you. < 1242259770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't light anything either... < 1242259777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's so special about this room anyway? < 1242259779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1242259781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are not very bright. < 1242259788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the original room. < 1242259804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the other rooms were made by putting walls up in it. < 1242259810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is because the day star is closer. < 1242259828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Original room? < 1242259836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on the seventh day, the daystar put up some walls. Tee hee. < 1242259843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1242259850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, humans did < 1242259864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the Big Blue Room is kinda crappy. < 1242259866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did they get the walls from? Walls come from big buildings with walls in them. < 1242259882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and how do you think those are made < 1242259883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: They made buildings. < 1242259897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Quantum fluctuations! < 1242259899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The roof leaks, the heater is broken, and the air conditioning hates you. < 1242259915 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and sometimes very large rocks fall in. < 1242259929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of architect designed that bullcrap?! < 1242259938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't designed. < 1242259947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless you believe some Christians) < 1242259953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hah, what are you gonna say? < 1242259956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A big ball of rock was flying along < 1242259960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just turned into the big blue room? < 1242259964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gets more ridiculous by the minute. < 1242259976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1242259977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the whole existence was a freak accident. < 1242259987 0 :nooga_!n=nooga@dqi163.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242259988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :existence of everything that is < 1242260037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: about these rocks falling. < 1242260039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does everybody dies? < 1242260046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1242260054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But./ < 1242260057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If rocks fall, everybody dies. < 1242260079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Most of the time the damage is localised. Only affects a small area. < 1242260094 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242260095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, a few buildings or so < 1242260098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Room is very, very large. < 1242260106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242260111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big < 1242260130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on how you measure < 1242260137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're all lunatics < 1242260140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like scientologists < 1242260145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bigblueroomologists < 1242260162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately 510 gigameters. < 1242260175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :148 gigameters of which is not water. < 1242260182 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1242260186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it has water too? < 1242260189 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242260189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Square gigameters, I mean. < 1242260190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, instead of floor? < 1242260192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahhahahahah < 1242260197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some places, yes. < 1242260212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 70% of its surface area, in fact. < 1242260217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. Not exactly. Ever seen a bathtub that was lowered to the floow level? < 1242260223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well as you can see i have a q6600 with a whole 65 nanometers, and its awesome. So my friend gets an e7400 and they totally rip him off. Instead of giving him 65 nanometers or more, they only give him 45, like WTH!! < 1242260223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to see a picture of about half of it? < 1242260223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :floor* < 1242260224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nedless to say i am pretty mad as intel is jipping my friend of his nanometers, so now his cpu will not be as good as my q6600, which is bad. Intel used to give people like a whole 130 nanometers but lately they are being very stingy and are not giving us their nanometers so our cpu's are not as good. Please help me boycott intel so they stop stealing our nanometers < 1242260229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Suure. < 1242260237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes or no? < 1242260242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nope. < 1242260243 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/The_Earth_seen_from_Apollo_17.jpg < 1242260260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh come on, obviously photoshopped; look at the smooth edges and the black background < 1242260266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that white shit. < 1242260270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the FUCK is that meant to be? < 1242260271 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clouds. < 1242260273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk‽‽‽‽‽ < 1242260273 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the reflections are all wrong. < 1242260276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Clouds"? < 1242260280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1242260280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cloud is the internet, noobcaek. < 1242260287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows that. < 1242260288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the Earth. < 1242260292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sphere. < 1242260296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth. Sounds like "Xenu". < 1242260296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In space. < 1242260301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space. < 1242260303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Space of what. < 1242260312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. This gets complex... < 1242260329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, theology always does when you poke at the obvious flaws. < 1242260332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you know space games? < 1242260334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Big Blue Room, the Earth, is a planet. < 1242260348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's sci-fi. L Ron Hubbard was a sci-fi writer too and he founded scientology < 1242260349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, think "like that, without the aliens (as far as we know)" < 1242260349 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a very, very large rock with things on it. < 1242260351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coincidence? i think not < 1242260363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was joking about the flying rock, goddamn! < 1242260365 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is in orbit around the "Sun", the daystar. < 1242260366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're all bananas! < 1242260371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't believe this crap do you? < 1242260374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where do you think they got the idea to space invaders‽ < 1242260378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a gigantic mass of burning hydrogen. < 1242260383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: star trek! < 1242260395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and where did they get the idea for star trek < 1242260400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You're a dipshit. Hydrogen is a gas. < 1242260400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The evidence suggests that this is true. < 1242260407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1242260408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How come it isn't flying everywhere? < 1242260414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravity. < 1242260415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The creators's mind? < 1242260420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Gravity makes things go down. < 1242260423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not hang about. < 1242260426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In "space" < 1242260433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you think they could make up something that stupid? < 1242260443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it makes things be attracted to other mass. < 1242260451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which tends to form a sphere. < 1242260457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Einstein said that only two things are infinite: < 1242260460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Gravity is uncomputable. < 1242260465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe and human stupidity, and that he wasn't sure about the former. < 1242260466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would have been the right answer. < 1242260469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what he means by "universe", but... < 1242260470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242260481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the universe is the same as this space! < 1242260487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bingo! < 1242260491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, don't drag Einstein into your religion. < 1242260511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He described pretty well how gravity works. < 1242260516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By bending spacetime. < 1242260521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242260522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242260523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was *fiction*. < 1242260529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'mon, "spacetime"? right out of star trek. < 1242260536 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but we've observed it. < 1242260545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kooky cultists, maybe. < 1242260572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, we believe in science! < 1242260580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sthat the name of your religion? < 1242260582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sci-Ence"? < 1242260584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experiments with the space shuttle, among other things. < 1242260585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242260602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Einstein style science. < 1242260605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of stuff. < 1242260609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft. < 1242260613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "space shuttle"? < 1242260615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good god. < 1242260622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you missed out on that? < 1242260625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor you < 1242260627 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes into orbit around the sun. < 1242260628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth. < 1242260633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Earth*, not the sun. < 1242260641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't even keep your facts straight, I see. < 1242260643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the Earth is in the orbit around the Sun < 1242260652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in fact it also orbits the sun < 1242260653 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, among other things, is how we have pictures of the Earth. < 1242260659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it orbits the orbiting Earth < 1242260663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :photoshopped. < 1242260676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... In the 60s? < 1242260682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually yes it is modified. The image was turned upside down. That was all. < 1242260684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1242260685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242260695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(didn't you know?) < 1242260718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, that specific picture was from 1972. < 1242260727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before UNIX, still. < 1242260728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242260809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not before epoch though. Though epoch was before UNIX. < 1242260822 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1242260884 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time started in 1970 :P < 1242260915 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: my music collection disagrees. < 1242260929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens to the Beatles
< 1242260973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Go to the Big Blue Room sometime during the day. < 1242260982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1242260982 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 0, the world was created with an artificial history, obviously < 1242260983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As if. < 1242260997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Observe the existence of things like "the Sun". < 1242261000 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242261002 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do the same at night. < 1242261008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Observe the plentiful stars and the moon. < 1242261018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come back and we'll talk again. ;) < 1242261029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, space shuttle mounted on launch platform: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0905/shuttlepredawn_danforth_big.jpg The Space Shuttle is the white thing with the half-hidden text "NASA" and "Atlantis" (the name of this specific shuttle, no idea why the named it that) on it. < 1242261047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nice render. POV-Ray? < 1242261056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, photo. < 1242261060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Camera. < 1242261063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, uh, no. < 1242261066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is no room. < 1242261074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is it then? < 1242261076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1242261079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be a film studio < 1242261081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But probably a render < 1242261081 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also fly to Cape Canaveral and see it for yourself. < 1242261083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all too perfect. < 1242261088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: fly? < 1242261091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You believe your adherents can FLY?! < 1242261095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHHAHA < 1242261096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHA < 1242261097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1242261097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAA < 1242261099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aircraft < 1242261099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AJHAHAHHAAHAGA < 1242261101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAA < 1242261104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aircraft. < 1242261106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pffft. < 1242261111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in powered vehicle < 1242261112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not without help. We have machines that fly. < 1242261116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We sit inside them. < 1242261137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works by using wings to produce lift. < 1242261145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a very good way of moving about in the Big Blue Room, since it's very, very large... < 1242261150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(simplified) < 1242261166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even going 200mph, it takes hours to get places. < 1242261177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and the room is so large you CAN'T see it is a room- < 1242261181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/-/./ < 1242261183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION snrk
< 1242261242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird where do you think I am? < 1242261257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1242261259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1242261271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in your house. < 1242261419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try going out the door you don't use a lot tomorrow < 1242261424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1242261453 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242261461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, because you missing something that is way better than inside. < 1242261474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it may take a while to adjust to the light level < 1242261483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is AnMaster part of a weird sect of your cult? < 1242261488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _likes_ the B.B.R.? < 1242261496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also don't your house have windows? Holes in the walls. With glass in them < 1242261506 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: There are pleasant things in the B.B.R. < 1242261508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure; they display generated sci-fi scenery. < 1242261511 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as other people. < 1242261518 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they don't generate anything. < 1242261523 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are just transparent. < 1242261526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1242261526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1242261529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuuuuuure. < 1242261547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is what you will reach when you go through that door. < 1242261555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look out the window, then go out the door. < 1242261557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242261561 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be the same thing. < 1242261582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you might have to go around the house to reach the right window of course < 1242261590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the door is in the opposite end < 1242261602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or similiar) < 1242261610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar* < 1242262159 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1242262187 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242262333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1242263193 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242263249 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :inurinternet < 1242264146 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haaa < 1242264159 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my #define maping tool is awesome < 1242264184 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :added 'perspective' and various types of nodes < 1242266329 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242266333 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242266588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266588 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266589 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266589 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266590 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266590 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266590 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266591 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266591 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266591 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266591 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266592 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266592 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266592 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266593 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266594 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242266595 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :lindbohm.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242267374 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1242267374 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1242267375 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242267800 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242268291 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242268412 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242268465 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242268572 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242268711 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242268759 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242269012 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242269041 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1242269926 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242270706 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242271891 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242272838 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@cpe-75-85-215-243.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242273860 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242273881 0 :rixius!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242273932 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242274872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242276332 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242276343 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242276460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242276514 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242276559 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242276695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242276812 0 :rixius!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1242276874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PizzaTheorem.html < 1242277394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kylegabler.com/WorldOfGooSoundtrack/ < 1242280266 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242280964 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242280967 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi there < 1242280974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242281177 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, finally finished my putc routine for chars 00-7F < 1242281200 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this means I can finally move to other things < 1242281205 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like getc < 1242281290 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242282047 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242282246 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242282249 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup fags < 1242282317 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1242282465 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally got this new computer running an os < 1242282532 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hope it's not C64-DTV running CELF < 1242282533 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242282589 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242282613 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that < 1242282637 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242282721 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1242282822 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242283413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242285952 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242286049 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242286594 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck bsd < 1242287999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1242288000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1242288309 0 :lereah_!n=lereah@nanpc319.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242288364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242288376 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242291384 0 :tombom!i=tombom@86.29.146.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242291674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242291683 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@d83-177-105-233.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242292374 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1242294737 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242294925 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242297442 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242297608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1242297779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242297789 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242298340 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-034-220.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242299072 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242299114 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242299246 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@mothball.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242301923 0 :nooga!n=nooga@doj79.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242304474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 (no response first time around, was just before the timeout) < 1242304477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242305346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242305346 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242305962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242306076 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242306078 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1242306092 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codename CELF progress: putc and puts are completely finished! woo-hoo! < 1242306099 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current task: do getc < 1242306341 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for PUTC, the only thing I am required to do is to do TAB (#09) < 1242306348 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do BEL though (#07) < 1242306966 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka sounds polish :D < 1242306983 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's CELF? < 1242307829 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242307933 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: because it IS polish < 1242307934 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh < 1242307952 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL :D < 1242307962 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i AM polish < 1242307968 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fajnie, ja tez :P < 1242307970 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nom < 1242308043 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better to go prv ;p < 1242308051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1242308775 0 :Deewiant_!n=deewiant@mothball.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242308784 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Changing server" < 1242308856 0 :Deewiant_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Deewiant < 1242309444 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242309450 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242310630 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242310655 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have a guinness, please < 1242311161 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242311282 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1242311307 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free space on my HD shrinks constantly < 1242311331 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but TimeMachine is disabled < 1242311438 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"changing server" < 1242311482 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242312008 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242312012 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242312111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242312111 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242312274 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242312274 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242313979 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ļ∑óę󮳹…ą„żźłźźĶ∑󙼀–™Ľ€• < 1242314241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ÿøù ðöñ`þ ßâý < 1242315072 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ķą†ę īó¨ < 1242315542 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=emacs@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242316255 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242316844 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-034-220.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242316887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:28 nooga: wtf < 1242316888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:28 nooga: free space on my HD shrinks constantly < 1242316889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:28 nooga: but TimeMachine is disabled < 1242316892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timemachine doesn't back up to your hd < 1242316903 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what it does? < 1242316927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: backs up to an external Time Capsule drive. < 1242316937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such drive < 1242316942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1242316945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm telling you what it dose. < 1242316946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does < 1242316956 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my free space shrinks without any reason < 1242316962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242316966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shrinks for a different reason < 1242316980 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday i've had 88GB free, now i have 86GB < 1242316991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap space, temporary files. < 1242316994 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't remember downloading/creating something 2GB big < 1242317008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OS will manage them itself < 1242317261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: don't worry, be happy < 1242317355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google is lagging... < 1242317379 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1242317809 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242317878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn right it is < 1242317956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that a joke :p < 1242317994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i just wanted to google something < 1242318017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242318019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my poor gmail, too < 1242318091 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :inurinternet < 1242318101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inurinternet: who are you? :p < 1242318130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, if that realname is correct, that's quite a good nickname pun < 1242318136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sith, obviously < 1242318138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I just looked it up < 1242318278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242318281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is fast here? < 1242318293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is < 1242318297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242318301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm or maybe not < 1242318304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be very sporadic < 1242318391 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's currently refusing to load here < 1242318404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it indefinitely loads and sometimes finishes for me < 1242318413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the norwegian version, naturally, i don't know how much that matters < 1242318470 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i did get in a couple searches < 1242318470 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :85GB < 1242318473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Test for optimiser. < 1242318475 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :164 ++++++++++++++[>++++++>++++++++>++>+++<<<<-]>.+++++++++++++++++.>+++.+.>++++.<<+.>-----.+++.>.<---.+.++++.<+++.++++.----.>-.<----.>-.>>++++.<----------------------. [329] < 1242318479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: stop sweating over it < 1242318489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OS can manage some temp ;-) < 1242318489 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something eatc my drive! < 1242318496 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eats < 1242318511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it keeps going down just rm -rf /tmp/* and reboot or something < 1242318524 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242318535 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly -----###
< 1242318575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION arrests oerjan for child abuse (unless FireFly is an adult, in which case disregard this)
< 1242318578 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1242318586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: stockholm syndrome! < 1242318597 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ehird in a lurid way -----###
< 1242318600 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242318616 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1242318643 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg in Stockholm" < 1242318660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you swedes still have google don't you < 1242318660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1242318669 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep :> < 1242318675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :robbery? i thought it was a terrorist attack... < 1242318677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! < 1242318689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need...google...juice < 1242318695 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the combo of swedish and english :\ < 1242318715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, switching to google.se doesn't help me... < 1242318721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's ze routing < 1242318726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: swedish sounds like joke english < 1242318726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1242318729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kreditbanken! < 1242318734 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1242318737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the bank-en of [kc]redit! < 1242318806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION crosses his fingers for the space observatory
< 1242318867 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242318964 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242319119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still issues with google in UK? < 1242319130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1242319136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everywhere but sweden, it seems. < 1242319137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works like a charm here! < 1242319138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cf oerjan < 1242319148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about US? < 1242319243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, UK + Norway != Everywhere :P < 1242319263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i'm pretty sure it's not two isolated cases < 1242319267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably a portion of europe < 1242319272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe elsewhere < 1242319366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242319371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sf.net changed design again!? < 1242319378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, again again? < 1242319379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just again < 1242319380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242319382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242319391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "since I last looked" < 1242319396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242319397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was, uh 3 or 4 days ago < 1242319401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up a project to see if that changedt oo
< 1242319430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have < 1242319436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242319441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the death throws of an obsolete service < 1242319453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : redesigners redesigners redesigners redesigners redesigners redesigners < 1242319567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsolete? Shitty yes, but not obsolete. Since lots of projects still use sf.net... Then "obsolete" must mean that you consider the concept of such sites outdated? < 1242319571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which again seems strange < 1242319594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sf.net itself had its time... < 1242319601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think its model is useful < 1242319608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of its services, certainly < 1242319621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of the model, there's no question its popularity for new projects is dwindling... < 1242319706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is because of the constant redesigns IMO :P < 1242319718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it happened before the design < 1242319722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least it is probably part of the reason. < 1242319728 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242319731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, before which redesign? < 1242319734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, wb < 1242319736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the first major one in ever < 1242319744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the gigantic sidebars, orange-ball logo etc < 1242319745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, and have you noticed sf.net resigned again? < 1242319748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the web 2.0y one < 1242319751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :redesigned* < 1242319754 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, I never visit it < 1242319757 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not deliberately < 1242319759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242319765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? ;-) < 1242319767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, how comes? < 1242319768 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that I'm avoiding it < 1242319774 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that I have no reason to go there < 1242319777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1242319779 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1242319790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. Only reason I had to go there today was to comment on a bug report. < 1242319816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh, sf's issue tracker system < 1242319819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost as bad as their forums < 1242319857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and? < 1242319868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just reminded me of it:) < 1242319872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* :) < 1242319888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually, the issue tracker used to be worse. < 1242319898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made it slightly less bad recently < 1242319902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's still awful < 1242319906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the forums have always been that bad < 1242319929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have forums? < 1242319940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for projects, yep < 1242319943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1242319944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some even use them < 1242319952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to a project page, find the forums < 1242319957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're truly awful < 1242319962 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how to say "don't run away" in norwegian? ;d < 1242320110 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikke løp din vei < 1242320157 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, ikke løp vekk < 1242320831 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-5-168.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242321231 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242321786 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242322060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242322482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, sun will sell you Unix-style keyboards < 1242322552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sun.com/desktop/products/peripherals/keyboard/ < 1242322637 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, the first comment here is a bit odd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibZaxgnBsaU < 1242322661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis music to his genitals indeed. < 1242322664 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just baroque, people... < 1242322683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/bubukaka5 < 1242322686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is indeed an odd one. < 1242322690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3219joejonas (1 week ago) < 1242322690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look I'm only going to say this.................. when you get sick and your in a hospital dieing REMEMBER WHAT you said and then think again!!!! < 1242322693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Just Maybe You get out OK! But As long as you wannabe Canadian self don't stop acting like a jerk. aren't go to get no respect.....Just bcuz ur from Canada don't mean anything...wow Ur Canadian < 1242322696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Wat , but there r going to be Black,White Or even Mexicans(wat ever u called them they are people like u and me) trying to save Ur life,working they butts off for you and all you can do is talk about crap. < 1242322699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just Remember. < 1242322712 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1242322724 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEDRO USADO CONDOM QUANDO ENCULO PORCINA POR FAVOR ! < 1242322742 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... wtf about the Alicia Keys comment < 1242322755 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he ends it with 'no offense' < 1242322774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242323060 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttW3gJ7Uun0 no o o < 1242323096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that song is crap < 1242323106 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1242323118 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looped on some itunes radio < 1242323130 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wholenight < 1242323131 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242323148 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242323148 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242323409 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242323457 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242324979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long till 160GB X25-M prices go down < 1242324986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A: months) < 1242325121 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242325140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it in theory safe to move a known constant output across a seek in bf? that is: other code here [>] [-]+++, which turns into "seek, set 3, output(3)" which is then sorted to "seek, output(3), set 3" < 1242325151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially I guess it isn't safe < 1242325156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how is that not safe < 1242325158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's safe < 1242325164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if the seek never hits any set cell < 1242325169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the behaviour will differ < 1242325174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you handle that in the seek part < 1242325180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1242325191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if the seek never finds a cell, it runs forever < 1242325194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I might not know if it will hit any set cell yet at compile time < 1242325195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the other instructions aren't executed < 1242325198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus don't execute < 1242325212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"seek, set 3, output(3)" which is then sorted to "seek, output(3), set 3" < 1242325216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242325217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sorting is perfectly fine < 1242325233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but my question was, is it then safe to move the output across the seek < 1242325261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242325266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242325343 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;f < 1242325349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how are you optimizing [>>] < 1242325362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(;*p;p+=2); ? < 1242325368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the best you can do, really < 1242325381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, into a seek node. How that is output depends on the backend. < 1242325394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For as long as I can recall, ATI/AMD video cards have typically had decent support in Linux" < 1242325399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux users can't agree on ANYTHING :-) < 1242325402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, currently the C backend translates it to while(*p) p+=stride; < 1242325422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but could be changed into a for loop < 1242325432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: same code < 1242325439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really haven't spent much time on making the backend itself output the best possible code yet. < 1242325453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I'm trying to figure out optimal sorting. < 1242325464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thing i have learned over the past few days: the 2D/3D hardware acceleration stack for Xorg is a bloody mess < 1242325464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shifter code is getting messy with special cases. < 1242325472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm making a loop up table with conditions < 1242325476 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does youtube work for any of you? < 1242325477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you just need to code one thing: < 1242325479 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz it doesn't work for me < 1242325480 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242325489 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242325489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "things that may or may not terminate are sort blockers" < 1242325492 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site gives a 404 < 1242325494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: google is being the laggy < 1242325501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242325501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not now < 1242325501 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242325503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yt works for me < 1242325507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um no, you can't move an out across an out for example. but you can move an add (which changes a different cell) across an out < 1242325509 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google loads for me, youtube does not load < 1242325522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok, alternative definition: < 1242325523 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242325525 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it works now < 1242325528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well < 1242325529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242325533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: my rule still works < 1242325536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just specialcase output too < 1242325544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "things that may or may not terminate are sort blockers" + side effect handling < 1242325548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catches everything < 1242325573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and I move {out. offset = 2, constant_to_add = 0}, {add, offset = 2, value = -2} across so you have: {add, offset = 2, value = -2} {out. offset = 2, constant_to_add = 2} < 1242325584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is because often you can merge those add < 1242325585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1242325589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen abcde < 1242325591 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :47 +++++++++++[>+++++++++>+>><<<<-]>--.+.+.+.+.>-. [206] < 1242325599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that. You can merge those adds < 1242325611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so there are lots of special handling cases needed. < 1242325636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can move set across add only if it has a different offset. < 1242325647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1242325649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the combiner pass will merge them if they have same) < 1242325660 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nos < 1242325661 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1242325683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either, add, set into a set, since the add is a dead store; or for set, add change to the value to set) < 1242325696 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can >><<<< be optimized to << ? < 1242325707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, combiner pass would do that < 1242325736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I'm working on making the shift-type look up table atm < 1242325848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:27 AnMaster: (the combiner pass will merge them if they have same) < 1242325854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then always do the shifting step last < 1242325857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := no special case < 1242325868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um... what? < 1242325872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1242325877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++>-<++ < 1242325886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1242325889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shifting or combining first :P < 1242325890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said < 1242325895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you decide < 1242325903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) If they have different offsets, you can shift them. < 1242325910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) If they don't, the combiner will merge them. < 1242325918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If (2) happens, you don't have to deal with it in (1) because you don't know. < 1242325920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but shifter calculates the offset when it shifts > forward. < 1242325921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So always do (1) after (2) < 1242325924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can avoid a special case. < 1242325938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there are other special cases that you can exploit. < 1242325946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242325948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that saves one < 1242325980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and I run all the optimiser passes in a loop until tree changes no more. < 1242325993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so run (1) last, ie the shifter, in the loop < 1242325995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all passes needs to be able to deal with output from later passes. < 1242326000 0 :tombom_!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1242326004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ib_opt_simple_loops, ib_opt_combine, < 1242326004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ib_opt_cleanup, ib_opt_shift, < 1242326004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ib_analyse_loops_simple, ib_analyse_loops_access, < 1242326004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ib_opt_init_mem < 1242326008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I have currently < 1242326014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for indention mess up when pasting < 1242326031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are missing passes < 1242326075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like loop->if and polynomiser. That is because the loop access analyser needs more work. < 1242326077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok, so you don't need the special case < 1242326078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1242326080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ARE different < 1242326085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise the combiner would have got them < 1242326087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and merged them away < 1242326105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, only if they were directly after each other at that stage. < 1242326115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, true < 1242326119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrug
< 1242326182 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decompiling sadol to mid-level C would be cool ;d < 1242326208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet! By RAID-0ing two X25-M 80GB disks, I can get the RAID-0 performance improvements and also save one cent. < 1242326211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(over the 160GB) < 1242326220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I'm leery of software RAID... < 1242326349 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242326429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, one cent? hahah < 1242326434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1242326441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two 80s: $629.98 < 1242326445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 160: $629.99 < 1242326452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says you can't have your eat and cake it too? < 1242326516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Today on Marketdroid Channel: < 1242326532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242326532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Super RAID-0 performance, only $-0.01!" < 1242326535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1242326554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, software RAID puts a larger load on the CPU though < 1242326556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, two drives are more likely to fail than one, but it doesn't exactly matter too much if an OS drive fails < 1242326563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: isn't it very minimal for RAID-0? < 1242326572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Not sure < 1242326576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: besides, iirc some mobos have onboard RAID nowadays < 1242326580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be crappy, but enough for RAID-0 < 1242326592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, RAID-0 isn't even redundant! < 1242326635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some? < 1242326643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought most had it for years < 1242326650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I wasn't too sure < 1242326651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1242326667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both mine and my old one have/had it. Yet both only have/had 2 ram slots. < 1242326675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you always tie shit in :-) < 1242326680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tie? < 1242326687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1242326707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact. change that question to be for the whole line < 1242326712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't make any sense to me < 1242326720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to "tie foo in" is to make a roundabout conversation path to make reference to foo when the topic isn't really related < 1242326722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each word did, just not the whole < 1242326723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, at least < 1242326729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242326730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more generic than that, but that's what it means in this context < 1242326743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1242326753 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-117-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242326794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question about sata < 1242326806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's synchronous, isn't it? < 1242326814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, only one request at a time < 1242326928 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's typedef foo bar, baz; ? < 1242326939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: invalid? < 1242326941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1242326944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef foo as both bar and ba < 1242326944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1242326946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is bar = foo < 1242326948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and baz = foo < 1242326951 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242326958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: apparently onboard raid is just software raid. < 1242326961 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in WinNT.h :D < 1242326964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chromakode: Timezones! Tiiiimezones! :P < 1242326975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wait, how can you know chromakode IRL if different timezones < 1242326978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then why "on board" < 1242326980 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS specific? < 1242326982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's blinds mown
< 1242326983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242326985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: dunno < 1242326989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i don't know < 1242326993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it has a mini processor doing it < 1242326994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1242327002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for a cheap raid card on newegg
< 1242327017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I have a BIOS menu for the RAID. But the manual says it needs Windows 2000, XP or Vista < 1242327020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: We know each other from undergrad, now he's still in undergrad and I'm in grad school. < 1242327031 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Although, I just realized that the problem wasn't timezones, but that I was on a plane :P < 1242327034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: MATHEMATICALLY SUPERIOR TO CHROMAKODE < 1242327049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were not the same grade :P < 1242327057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATHEMATICALLY! < 1242327085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if you want multiple pending requests to drive you want SCSI, SAS or Firewire iirc. < 1242327096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but don't quote me on that!) < 1242327097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, a raid 0/1/jbod controller with 61 reviews @ 5 eggs for $139.99, looks promis— FUCK IT'S SATA 1 < 1242327103 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Gregor is now in Oregon again. l'vacation. < 1242327106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and regular pci, wowz. < 1242327129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey, a raid 0/1/jbod controller with 61 reviews @ 5 eggs for $139.99, looks promis— FUCK IT'S SATA 1 <-- yes, they make RAID cards iirc. < 1242327137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1242327146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Wat? < 1242327200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Home > Computer Hardware > Hard Drives > Controllers / RAID Cards > Type[SATA ],Type[SATA / IDE ],Internal Connectors[4 x SATA II ],Internal Connectors[8 x SATA II ],Internal Connectors[16x SATA II ],Internal Connectors[12x SATA II ],Type[SATA II ],Internal Connectors[2 x SATA II ],Internal Connectors[1 x SATA II ],External Ports[8 x SATA II ],External Ports[2 x SATA II ],External Ports[4 x SATA II ],Type[SATA / SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) ],Internal Con < 1242327203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nectors[24 x SATA II ],Internal Connectors[2 x SATA II + 1 x ATA 133 ], returned 3 results. < 1242327204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "promis—" --> "Promise SuperTrak EX Series support (SCSI_STEX)" < 1242327206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like mathematica code. < 1242327206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1242327209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: *groan* < 1242327212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just awful,. < 1242327213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1242327218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I said it was! < 1242327234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know but < 1242327235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so awful < 1242327239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to kill you < 1242327241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1242327245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1242327247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kills AnMaster
< 1242327254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish it didn't come to this < 1242327255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really did < 1242327257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do < 1242327258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work < 1242327260 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEAST DRAMATIC SLAYING EVER < 1242327263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you kill < 1242327265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242327284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1242327315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't valid if you don't list how you kill :P < 1242327319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i know < 1242327340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's like < 1242327352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: a gun's silencer right? < 1242327355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a dramatic silencer < 1242327359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all kinds of kill types < 1242327361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very hi-tech < 1242327369 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including kill -9 < 1242327375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, exactly < 1242327376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do < 1242327380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ killall -9 jews < 1242327381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it goes < 1242327382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I deflected the bullet < 1242327384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it didn't work < 1242327388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* hitler does some killing < 1242327390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: who said bullet < 1242327393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a dramatic silencer < 1242327396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works on all types of kill < 1242327404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well how did you kill then < 1242327410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked you and you didn't reply < 1242327416 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a "management utility" that represented all of your processes as monsters in IIRC the Doom engine. < 1242327421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I told you I'd have wasted the $7,000 I spent on the dramatic silencer! < 1242327424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yep < 1242327426 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silencer? < 1242327431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ < 1242327432 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be > /dev/null < 1242327437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. The kill doesn't work without a reason on IRC < 1242327438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1242327442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that < 1242327448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s what it was like before dramatic silencers < 1242327451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a whole new world now < 1242327461 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A whole new wooooooooooooooooooorld *song* < 1242327467 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242327485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, good thing I got heavy armour then. Bullet proof. < 1242327507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said I shot you < 1242327516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, " http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ AnMaster: that" < 1242327521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did < 1242327521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242327524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:56 GregorR: I remember a "management utility" that represented all of your processes as monsters in IIRC the Doom engine. < 1242327530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to highlight GregorR < 1242327536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242327536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242327540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:57 ehird: AnMaster: that < 1242327540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:57 ehird: 's what it was like before dramatic silencers < 1242327542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: < 1242327546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a mis-enter < 1242327550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so the kill is invalid < 1242327554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what < 1242327608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just kill, you have to kill with something, like a weapon, or blunt trauma (possibly fist) < 1242327612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1242327618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dramatic silencer. < 1242327622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not valid. < 1242327624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep up with the new irc tech. < 1242327644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and creating your own fire poker as a magical oerjan-style weapon out of the blue is invalid too, but you insisted it worked :) < 1242327675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a silencer itself can't kill, unless you you use it as a blunt weapon, throwing it against the victim or using it to bash the victim or whatever. < 1242327693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you misunderstand < 1242327697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a silencer silences the sound of a gun < 1242327701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242327703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that < 1242327706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dramatic silencer silences the record of any kill whatsoever on IRC < 1242327707 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wapon is gay < 1242327717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cost me $7k, dammit. < 1242327717 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentlemans use word < 1242327724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wapon is gay. < 1242327725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep. < 1242327746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they recalled them. Didn't you know? Because it turned out they not only silenced the kill, they made it never happen. < 1242327748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad luck. < 1242327759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No they didn't. ← assertion technology < 1242327804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYBA SD-LP-PEX2IR PCI Express SATA II Controller Card - Retail < 1242327805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internal Connectors: 2 x SATA II < 1242327806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAID: Supported Raid 0, 1 (optional) Raid 10, 5 are supported, if drives are connected to a Port Multiplier < 1242327809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assertion failed: " No they didn't. ← assertion technology" in channel "#esoteric". < 1242327809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$18.99 < 1242327811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ yay < 1242327824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbk < 1242327824 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I am not deep. < 1242327826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl* < 1242328050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816103105 ah, this looks nice < 1242328070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at http://www.cs.unm.edu/~dlchao/flake/doom/ what is the "BFG" mentioned < 1242328074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never played doom < 1242328084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the Big Fucking Gun. < 1242328086 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weapon number 7, the most powerful in the game. < 1242328087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shoots giant gobs of plasma. < 1242328103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. That sounds like a god mode weapon? < 1242328108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that name too < 1242328117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It doesn't kill everything in one shot, iirc, but it's damn powerful. < 1242328121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242328123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it's hard to get. < 1242328128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, relatively. < 1242328130 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't. < 1242328136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242328138 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, relatively. < 1242328140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242328148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "hard to get" like "you can only get it after the boss you would have needed it against" hard? < 1242328161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Not that hard. < 1242328164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242328164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it also has limited ammo. < 1242328180 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vanilla Doom is so easy, you don't need it at all :-P < 1242328191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any shooting weapon that would have infinite ammo < 1242328195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not in real life < 1242328205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I can't think of anything infinite IRL apart from the universe. < 1242328234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um we don't know that iirc. It could be "huge but finite" iirc < 1242328249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't "know" anything. < 1242328256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm no expert on topology. < 1242328307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm using the word "know" here as in: "the evidence is inconclusive, more research needed" < 1242328327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a gross misuse of the exact meaning of "know" indeed! < 1242328338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I know: < 1242328340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1242328363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even that's with the caveat "... as long as there aren't contradictions" < 1242328363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all? < 1242328369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242328517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doom process interface... The implementation has some major of issues (like processes attacking the sysadmin; though it isn't clear if they only attack in self defence). But with some work I think it could actually work! < 1242328580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd work best on a fun server where everyone is a sysadmin. < 1242328596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutually untrusting sysadmins is a huge problem on a non-play system. < 1242328598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, believe me, co-admining a server is messy enough! < 1242328600 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242328609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with trust < 1242328619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geeks aren't the most sociable < 1242328623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people trying to solve the issue at the same time, from different parts of the world < 1242328645 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmfh. Seems that orwell.freenode.net's (the FI server) not even trying to get back online. < 1242328678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: there are some processes that must never be killed, no matter what. Examples: init. the fake processes of the kernel, possibly syslog. < 1242328690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb phone < 1242328709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you kill init? < 1242328773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" At least I've seen something like that. < 1242328805 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So have I, but only when booting < 1242328824 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the message is accurate and it triggers on the attempt, and thus init is immortal < 1242328836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that 'init' is a special process: it doesn't get signals it doesn't want to handle. Thus you cannot kill init even with a SIGKILL even by mistake." < 1242328852 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye, thought something of the kind. < 1242328853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's in arch/{a,lot,of,things}/signal.c. < 1242328864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Mommy says I'm speshul and don't need to listen to angry signals I don't wanna < 1242328874 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing init is like dividing by zero. < 1242328904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# kill -9 init < 1242328910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: floating point exception kill < 1242328916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Indeed it is. < 1242328925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242328939 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Soviet Linux, init kills you! < 1242328941 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get printk(KERN_WARNING "tried to kill init!\n"); if the OOM killer attempts accidentally to kill init. < 1242328959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Set up a division by zero handler that tries to kill init < 1242328965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we can try one impossible thing, might as well try another. < 1242328985 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll end up with something like http://halshop.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/phpw9jvl0pm.jpg < 1242329007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inside that tunnel... init lurks. < 1242329028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Process (1/0) is init. < 1242329103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill -9 1 indeed completes successfully but init duly ignores it. < 1242329118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More OOM killer code: p->rt.time_slice = HZ; set_tsk_thread_flag(p, TIF_MEMDIE); /* We give our sacrificial lamb high priority and access to all the memory it needs. That way it should be able to exit() and clear out its resources quickly... */ < 1242329129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wait. < 1242329135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the OOM killer gives its victim full access? < 1242329137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLWAT ^_^ < 1242329150 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's immediately before force_sig(SIGKILL, p); < 1242329165 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's not much you can do with your high priority there. < 1242329169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that OOM's one sadistic bitch. < 1242329715 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242329926 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242330156 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having 4 cores is fun < 1242330253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you disabled ht eh :P < 1242330264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: is that thing running smoothly? What OS? FreeBSD? < 1242330265 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242330272 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freebsd right now < 1242330273 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242330276 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm frustrated with it < 1242330282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coulda told you so < 1242330285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why? < 1242330303 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most recent version of ion in ports or packages? from 2002 < 1242330343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can't ship later than $time_tuomov_adopted_crackheaded_license_forcing_them_to_update_it_4eva < 1242330347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was post-2002 < 1242330355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now switch over to the archside >:) < 1242330481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linux has a NAZI theme--darwin evolution konquer. People who obsess on evolution are sick in the head. They all want to kill-off dumb people. " < 1242330535 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does darwin have to do with linux? < 1242330547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing whatsoever! < 1242330560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's by the weirdo who made this shitOS: http://www.losethos.com/v506.html < 1242330566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only runs in 64 bit real mode and you can only use 16 colours < 1242330569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it comes with a bible application < 1242330584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote from http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8kgvj/losethos_64bit_operating_system_v506_released_not/ < 1242330623 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a lot of ram < 1242330629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: 12GB? < 1242330632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that is a lot of ram < 1242330632 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242330636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your point? :-P < 1242330685 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i am running sort /dev/urandom for fun < 1242330699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: write a program that uses 4 threads to sort /dev/urandom < 1242330708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 8 if you're using crappythreading ;)))))) < 1242330728 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run the same thing two times in a row - wall clock time the first run was 43.01 seconds, the second run was 43.02 seconds < 1242330756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: that's just your computer becoming obsolete. < 1242330762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little known fact is that they actually do this actively < 1242330767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your computer really was faster when you first bought it < 1242330781 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :love shack nananana < 1242330783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: what's your cpu/ram/disk usages? < 1242330791 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hdd usage is 1GB/h < 1242330798 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1242330829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: er... what % of cpu (up to 800%) is used, how much ram is used, and what does df -h give < 1242330840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious as to how much waste there is :-P < 1242330848 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :top isn't reporting cpu usage like that < 1242330858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell it to < 1242330860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://rafb.net/p/XzzZgG24.html < 1242330864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sth < 1242330868 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 8 threads running, cpu usage is 100%, load average is 8 < 1242330868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: is it reporting 8 sep counts < 1242330875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: too rafb.net; didn't use < 1242330883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ah. I meant without the crazy sort :-P < 1242330883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, your loss. < 1242330888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*read < 1242330969 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each proccess it reports of percentage of the cpu it's running on < 1242330981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i meant systemwide usage < 1242330991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU usage: 7.11% user, 8.00% sys, 84.89% idle < 1242331023 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU: 0.3% user, 0.0% nice, 0.1% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.5% idle < 1242331027 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not doing anything right now obviously < 1242331052 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242331091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: what about memory? < 1242331108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(does bsd have free(1)? My system doesn't) < 1242331136 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1242331140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a memory usage report in top, though. < 1242331143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, anyway. < 1242331150 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 118M Active, 419M Inact, 490M Wired, 2356K Cache, 399M Buf, 11G Free < 1242331155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, but does it include the "The system is reserving gigantic amounts of RAM for its nefarious purposes" < 1242331163 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what active, intact or wired means < 1242331180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: so 0.1GB out of 12GB < 1242331181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242331191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(w/ 0.5GB or so reserved by the OS) < 1242331204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: how loud's it? (Since I'm getting a similar system...) < 1242331217 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stock cooler is pretty loud < 1242331228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not surprised < 1242331234 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :htop on the university shell server says: 5348/62807MB; that's also rather a small percentage out of an absurd value. < 1242331255 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but effective, mbmon says 35 degrees idle and 59 loaded < 1242331261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1242331289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get an i7 heastink/fan combination that's pretty silent and cools well for ~$45, iirc, but ofc that's only reasonable if it's bugging you < 1242331296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 35 degrees idle is niice < 1242331308 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the psu i think is making a high pitched whine < 1242331324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i skimped a bit on the psu to get it in a case deal, sry < 1242331332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently cheap psus whine like that < 1242331338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, it had good reviews < 1242331361 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to 'sensors' this Athlon-X2 I have has a motherboard temperature of 39 degrees, CPU temperature of 30 degrees; while the on-CPU thermometers say 34 degrees for core 1, 36 for core 2. Not quite sure which one to believe. < 1242331409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you measure ram temperature with anything? < 1242331424 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graphics card heatsink is really hot < 1242331440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: it's a cheap passive card... you said you didn't care about gfx cards :p < 1242331446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know it was hot, though < 1242331451 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1242331457 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getc finished, backspace improved... < 1242331460 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...(but not yet complete) < 1242331478 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ram is relatively cool to the touch < 1242331486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't mean your ram :p < 1242331495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just asking anyone if there was a program to look at ram temps < 1242331501 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my cheap-ish passive cards (7600GT/8600GT) gets really hot too. Both have rather hueg heatsinks. < 1242331511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, your ram is just a regulary ddr3 thing so it should run cool < 1242331589 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this hard drive isn't working < 1242331608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: which one < 1242331612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :media or ssd? < 1242331618 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ssd is fine < 1242331640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the media one? < 1242331649 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work < 1242331653 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't show up in the bios < 1242331661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you plug it in properly :p < 1242331683 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.../ < 1242331708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......................... < 1242331738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Logitech "gaming keyboard" (the G19) which has a 320x240 color LCD you can watch youtube stuff on; approximately half of the net-reviews say the keyboard's running some sort of a Linux-based embedded thing, but there are no details anywhere about how it actually works. It does have an external power brick, though. (But it also has an active-powered USB hub, so there.) < 1242331771 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242331776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now that was non-sequitur! < 1242331785 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's still about hardware. < 1242331792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toasters. < 1242331922 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1242332345 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242332421 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242332427 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah pretty sure hdd is dead < 1242332446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: tell newegg :P < 1242332461 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1242332507 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox starts up like *snaps fingers* that < 1242332518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i7, DDR3 and SSD will do to you. < 1242332527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAVAGE YOUR INSIDES < 1242332538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually powers the application startup by sipping your soul… < 1242332553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: start 50 firefoxes < 1242332629 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, don't even have seq < 1242332636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD userland is barren < 1242332675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoves ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/iso/2009.02/archlinux-2009.02-ftp-x86_64.iso.torrent into bsmntbombdood's CD drive
< 1242332691 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242332696 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already downloaded a debian iso < 1242332704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: debian stable? < 1242332707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy your obsolescence < 1242332722 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, testing < 1242332738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing didn't even have ext4 stable last I checked < 1242332745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tha's pretty old < 1242332834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: arch has ion3 20090110 < 1242332844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242332848 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242332885 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lord this person i'm talking to at newegg is either dumb, busy, or a really slow typer < 1242332892 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian has "20090110-1" too. < 1242332903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian's 20090110 is older than Arch's. < 1242332903 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though in non-free only. < 1242332907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By pure law of nature. < 1242332921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: the debian cd you downloaded was 64bit right < 1242332946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what version of xorg does debian have? < 1242332954 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, i'm gonna run 32 bi < 1242332959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: erm < 1242332960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 12GB? < 1242332964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lollllllllll < 1242332973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i guess you only want to use 4gb of it < 1242332974 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current debian-installer daily build has kernel 2.6.29-1-amd64, so I guess it should do ext4 just fine. < 1242332975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1242332983 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1242332986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun then < 1242333027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: seriously, what? < 1242333034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit os with 12gb of ram? < 1242333053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the ridiculust thing I ever heard. < 1242333054 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 64 bit is gay < 1242333063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalm
< 1242333098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you'll really regret it < 1242333101 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about xorg versioning; as far as I know Debian-unstable doesn't follow the most bleeding-edgeist stuff there, though. xserver-xorg-core is "1.6.1", whatever it means, and xorg itself is "7.4". < 1242333115 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please return your sarcasm detector to the manufacturer for a tune up < 1242333122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: oh. < 1242333123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242333125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. oh. < 1242333143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(set! (embarrassment-level ehird) infinity) < 1242333150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my defense, there are people that stupid in the world. < 1242333168 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, with pae it wouldn't be that outrageuous < 1242333191 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't get single huge process images, though. < 1242333235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you'd have to split up any large computation < 1242333237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :into processes < 1242333240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is ridiculous < 1242333261 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do that anyway with 4 cores < 1242333267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt: threads < 1242333318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: btw, if you're gonna wipe the ssd to install $OS, use a tool to ATA SECURE ERASE it < 1242333328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since otherwise the blocks from the old install will stay < 1242333356 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN I DD IF=/DEV/ZERO ? < 1242333360 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242333363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: no < 1242333368 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't remaped caps lock yet < 1242333368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATA SECURE ERASE is different < 1242333371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to use a boot disk < 1242333394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i think intel point to a tool to do it < 1242333396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme look it up < 1242333428 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242333433 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242333479 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...this customer service rep wished me an "eggcellent day" < 1242333480 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1242333489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242333490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-DDDDDDDD < 1242333529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: looking up that eraser thingy < 1242333532 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier than i thought to get them to replace it though < 1242333567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: btw, if you're installing linux... do the align thing, srsly < 1242333573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a few commands and installing to LVM < 1242333612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are doing a clean setup of your machine and want to restore your drive to its native state you’ll have to perform a secure erase. Intel distributed a tool with the first X25-M review kits called HDD ERASE. This tool will take any SSD and free every last page on the drive. Obviously you’ll lose all of your data but your drive will be super fast again! < 1242333615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order for HDDERASE to work you need to have your SATA controller running in Legacy IDE mode, you can select this in your BIOS. Your drive will have to be connected to one of the first four SATA ports off of the controller. < 1242333659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Step one: make DOS bootdisk. Step two: Turn on legacy IDE shit in your BIOS. Step three: http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/HDDEraseWeb.zip < 1242333681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hdparm has a "--security-erase" flag nowadays. < 1242333697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does that just overwrite many times < 1242333699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATA SECURE ERASE < 1242333701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a very specific command < 1242333704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1242333718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's under "ATA Security Feature Set", I would hope that's what it does. < 1242333725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1242333733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'd need to boot from a livecd anyway to do it. < 1242333762 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, and the hdparm flag is "EXPERIMENTAL AND NOT WELL TESTED. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK." < 1242333780 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might, for example, lose all your data. :p < 1242333787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242334226 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't look at the smartctl info, it makes me paranoidishically worrysome about the numbers I don't know how to interpret. < 1242334234 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dos bootdisk? < 1242334236 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that < 1242334308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ has hdderase included by default. < 1242334422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i like how you'll spent $1.7k on a top-o'-the-range computer and then refuse to spend 5 minutes maintaining it :D < 1242334527 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure why you'd exactly have to wipe the disk, though; unless it's some sort of religious "this disk still smells like freebsd even though I made new filesystems" thing. < 1242334540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's how SSDs work < 1242334548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they try desperately not to reuse a block < 1242334562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when they have no blocks left, have to do the 2ms or so rewriting process on a write < 1242334573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to erase it totally to get back the blocks < 1242334594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATA TRIM support in OSes can help, but isn't really anywhere yet < 1242334730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1242334898 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242335002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://pastebin.com/d5f49c085 < 1242335414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm going to do is write a "kind of DSL" to do it. Basically a function taking pairs, which can return: false | {true, TranslatorFunction} | {sort, [Field, ...], [{Field,Field}, ...]} < 1242335425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly some other variants < 1242335639 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this case is suprisingly decent for the price < 1242335660 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242335826 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i am going to install debian now < 1242335957 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242336054 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! you must resist! < 1242336661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1242336670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, eurgh debian < 1242336674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i help him :^) < 1242336755 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those debian users! < 1242336771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I even offered him Arch < 1242336778 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am one of them, most regretfully. I '$ cut' my files every day in remorse < 1242336794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I remember that Dasher screenshot you gave... that was the Ubuntu theme. < 1242336803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPREADING A BIT OF DISINFORMATION ARE WE? < 1242336843 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I use my favorite operating system, UIND < 1242336855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Anonix. < 1242336872 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu is Not Debian < 1242336872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you look at that link? < 1242336876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1242336881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, any comments? < 1242336882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems logical < 1242336902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a single trivial rule won't solve that is my point < 1242336909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: what's that OS that the crazy jap was posting about on /prog/ saying other OSes were whores and tools and this OS was a human < 1242336914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I used that before Anonix. < 1242336941 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242336947 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1242336957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242336982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At Railsconf 2009 the guys over at Phusion released Rubystein, a Wolfenstein clone written in Ruby." < 1242336986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The epitome of Ruby's speed. < 1242336992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfenstein 3D. < 1242337031 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, not the original? < 1242337046 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original was written by the same guy who did RobotWar < 1242337061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfenstein_3D < 1242337068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone ported it to Ruby, which is funny because Ruby is slow. < 1242337132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: he didn't do robotwar < 1242337135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just ported it to the apple II < 1242337147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warner died in March 2004 after a long battle with kidney disease." < 1242337162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://pastebin.com/d7f374825 < 1242337180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't read Erlang. < 1242337215 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he wrote the original, and ported it? < 1242337225 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, he did. < 1242337229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242337229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oki < 1242337230 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as the sequel. < 1242337245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242337246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242337250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warner was a major contributor to the early PLATO system in not just the area of gaming but also as an educational content developer. RobotWar and its editor program RobotWrite originated on the PLATO system in the 1970s. This < 1242337257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is quite a trivial subset: [foo] [foo, bar] are lists, {a,b} is a 2-tuple, {a,b,c} is a 3-tuple. Foo is a variable, foo is an atom. _ means "match anything" < 1242337263 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the sequel? < 1242337268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, I just can't follow the logic, AnMaster < 1242337275 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What's a | b < 1242337276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fair enough. < 1242337285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "Some other parts is not valid erlang syntax either" < 1242337286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242337292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: write it in haskell... same for lists... (a,b) is a tuple, foo is a variable, "foo" is an atom, _ means match anything >:) < 1242337297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwaha < 1242337303 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't care, but what did you mean with it :-P < 1242337310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I need to translate it to foo(Ins, _) when Ins = foo; Ins = bar < 1242337311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1242337315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ; is "or" < 1242337327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so it is regex style | < 1242337342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and it is the syntax used in erlang -type and -spec specifications < 1242337344 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short answer: it's "or". < 1242337354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1242337361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, that would be correct yes < 1242337374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to learn how to program the C-64's SID chip. < 1242337375 0 :tombom_!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1242337381 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do so. < 1242337388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where to start :-) < 1242337390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googols
< 1242337402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, just a bunch of archives. < 1242337439 0 :OoS!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242337468 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a look at http://web.archive.org/web/20070513193613/http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e9426444/ for instance. < 1242337480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, can a function have multiple entry points in haskell? LIke this set of pattern matching entry points used here. < 1242337484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes3 < 1242337486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yes. < 1242337491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's not "entry point". < 1242337507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure, names may differ. < 1242337513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Also, rather than using "foo" for an atom, you could do data MyStuff = AnAtom | AnotherAtom Int | Foo < 1242337523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the Int is like passing {anotherAtom,3} in erlang < 1242337529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(matched as (AnotherAtom x)) < 1242337544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that's more reference than tutorial < 1242337553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ett fel uppstod vid laddning av http://web.archive.org/web/20070513193613/http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e9426444/: < 1242337553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timeout på server < 1242337553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Anslutningen var till web.archive.org på port 80 < 1242337555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ^ < 1242337556 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tutorials are for wusses < 1242337574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And? < 1242337579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is web archive down? < 1242337588 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when I posted that it wasn't < 1242337594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's up. < 1242337599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah now it works again. But slow < 1242337600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's our revenge for .se having google. < 1242337605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slower than ususal < 1242337611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, damn, you stole my next comment! < 1242337631 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web archive is slow here too. I've been searching for Programming Game stuff on there. < 1242337648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OoS, it is *always* slow. Just usually not _this_ slow < 1242337783 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been going through the list of programming games at http://aiforge.net trying to archive the stuff which hasn't disappeared yet. I hate linkrot. < 1242338195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Handle it like nuclear waste! (i.e. with forks)" < 1242338395 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242338396 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tombom < 1242338650 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242339781 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242340207 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242340916 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242341020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1242341022 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1242341109 0 :kerlo!n=ihope@normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1242341111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1242341168 0 :OoS!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :impomatic < 1242341745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The same programming reference book I linked to has the SID waveforms and registers and such described. < 1242341757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right; there's lots of references < 1242341768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not tutorials < 1242341779 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tutorials are for people who can't read references. :p < 1242341784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1242342174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you know earlier today you were talking about Google being down/slow, and I was talking about Internet politics? < 1242342179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242342180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Slashdot, the two are linked < 1242342189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Netcraft confirm it? < 1242342192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems someone screwed up the routing rules at Google < 1242342197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it tried to route all its traffic via Asia < 1242342199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what was that comic with the army-of-wangs-stalking-nightmares thing? < 1242342202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :-D < 1242342239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Google confirms it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/this-is-your-pilot-speaking-now-about.html < 1242342258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242342348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of how Pakistan accidentally blackholed YouTube a while back, while just trying to block it within the country < 1242342360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Founddit. < 1242342362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, I'm not at all sure that managing the AS connections by hand is a good idea < 1242342392 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing an AS number is 16-bit, so there can only be about 65000 of the things messing up at most < 1242342425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how comforting < 1242342440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly less because some of them are private use < 1242342447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 0 is reserved < 1242342451 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION idly wonders who's AS 1
< 1242342468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, slashdot reports that the Radeon HD 4890 has been clocked to 1GHz. < 1242342474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How deliciously excessiv. < 1242342474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1242342489 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lThere are 32-bit AS numbers, IIRC. < 1242342506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/asnrequestform.html < 1242342511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a link to SPCR in the comments! How homely. < 1242342515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that form scares me on about 3 levels < 1242342522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why? < 1242342525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, four < 1242342531 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ < 1242342537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of 1 January 2009, the RIPE NCC began assigning 32-bit (or four-byte) Autonomous System Numbers (ASNs) by default. This is in accordance with a common policy agreed on in all Regional Internet Registry (RIR) communities and described in the RIPE Document, Autonomous System (AS) Number Assignment Policies and Procedures. < 1242342541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not exactly old. < 1242342546 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couple of 32-bit ones at the bottom there. < 1242342552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, if it's 32-bit nowadays they aren't in such short supply nowadays < 1242342555 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my point. < 1242342556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: name the ways! < 1242342562 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also shows who's 1. < 1242342562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the import: export: at the end < 1242342567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"please tell us your routing policy" < 1242342573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if anyone would do that < 1242342581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the things tend to change every few minutes < 1242342591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not exactly < 1242342598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know ARIN owns it, but not who they gave it to < 1242342610 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough. < 1242342611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many ASs would you have to operate to get a good portion of the internet down? < 1242342612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the fact that it's a template for an email you're supposed to send them < 1242342629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the entire internet has been brought down by misconfiguring 1 before < 1242342635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, entire? < 1242342635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd need a network map to be sure. < 1242342636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they're more robust against that sort of thing nowadays < 1242342636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it? < 1242342642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was this < 1242342650 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: This was probably '95 or earlier, I'd imagine. < 1242342651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few years ago it seems < 1242342653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but, more realistically < 1242342656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would only have blocked inter-AS routing < 1242342667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, how many would you need to bring them down without much luck < 1242342679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small ISP somewhere in Asia somehow managed to advertise a zero-length route to every IPv4 address in existence < 1242342691 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, about the worst that happens with misconfiguration is a single AS or a group of AS's are screwed up. < 1242342693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and blackholed every IP there was as a result < 1242342700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, but that's just local < 1242342708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, global < 1242342712 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :length 0 is pretty short < 1242342716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blackholed every IP ever? < 1242342717 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for anything that goes through there. < 1242342727 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: unless it was within one ISP < 1242342732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1242342733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: A large number of ASs filter out obviously false routes. < 1242342735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: everything /would/ go through there, it was the shortest route! < 1242342737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did anything happen to them? < 1242342738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: all of them nowadays < 1242342752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, they got Usenet Death Penaltied, except generalised to the whole internet < 1242342753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wouldn't necessarily be the shortest route. < 1242342754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like that sort of stuff ought to be illegal :P < 1242342763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the ASes they were connected to terminated their agreements with them < 1242342766 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still the hops it takes to get to that ISP. < 1242342767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242342767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so they went out of busineses < 1242342772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes < 1242342784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :operating an isp must suck < 1242342790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1242342798 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wasn't sure if it would spread that well, but evidently so. < 1242342811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it wouldn't have been perfect < 1242342817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine it wouldn't have affected the length-1 peering agreements < 1242342823 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not provider-peer-customer either < 1242342825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got rather brittle routing protocols. < 1242342832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything more complicated, though, would likely have ended up being blackholed < 1242342837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, length 0 = you can get to me with no hops! < 1242342838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242342840 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes < 1242342850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are they lied about a lot? < 1242342851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that would be translated by the ASes next door < 1242342856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :into "you can get to bad-ISP in one hop" < 1242342856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd guess so :p < 1242342860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it starts to diffuse slightly < 1242342873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more fun than that < 1242342879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Length 0 means "That's one of my other interfaces." < 1242342884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASes are known to make routes look more convoluted than they are < 1242342890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242342893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't go here, man." < 1242342897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to try to persuade routers to send the traffic another way < 1242342898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It'll take you aaaaaagges. Pick the other guy." < 1242342914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, essentially, the job of an AS operator is to ensure it gets used as little as possible? < 1242342917 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242342919 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242342920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242342923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to get rid of the traffic ASAP if it turns up < 1242342934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, coppro. < 1242342945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine you are on an AS that serves all of Europe < 1242342960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to send a packet to someone in Egypt on an AS that serves all of north Africa < 1242342971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you send it, it'll go south and then across Africa < 1242342977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your AS is trying to get rid of it as soon as they can < 1242342983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's the job of any AS that uses peered links. < 1242342985 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1242342997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the return packet will go north and across Europe, because that AS is trying to get rid of it as fast as /it/ can < 1242342998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An AS that purchases transit has a different job. < 1242343010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send those packets the cheapest way possible. < 1242343011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so round-trips tend to be actually round, rather than along a straight line < 1242343021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if that means sending it through your rack of modems. :p < 1242343028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1242343045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peering is all about passing as little traffic as you can, while persuading the other guy to pass as much of your traffic as you can persuade them to < 1242343066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with purchasing, you can happily pass all the traffic your customer wants as it gives you an excuse to charge them extra < 1242343110 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: another scary thing on that AS request form is the website-if-available < 1242343110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only reason our current setup works at all is that IP is one ridiculously robust protocol. < 1242343117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi, I want to start an ISP. No, I don't have a website." < 1242343119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :-D < 1242343172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the ASs in the more socialist countries are better. :-P < 1242343179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1242343257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x-ncc-regid: < 1242343266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that x- almost scares me more than the rest of the form < 1242343270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not entirely sure why < 1242343286 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242343307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, a bit of sanity: % Which address prefix will originate from the new AS number? < 1242343337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that RIPE at least are planning to tell people what sort of sanity checks to put on new ASes < 1242343355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if an ISP can only blackhole itself, it just ends up looking stupid rather than being ostracised to death < 1242343365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm sure RIPE would raise eyebrows if it was given 0.0.0.0/0 < 1242343381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the top-tier ISPs end up being able to advertise < 1242343462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what does that mean? < 1242343466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the full ip space? < 1242343468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242343478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, they don't advertise the whole thing < 1242343484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they might need to advertise any individual bit of it < 1242343490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on conditions elsewhere on the internet < 1242343512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the top-tier ISPs are top-tier precisely because people pay them to route anywhere without going via a parent ISP < 1242343529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with all of these variables, I bet you could derive a mathematical proof that the internet can't possibly work < 1242343556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I've said before, it's been proven that it's uncomputable to determine whether it works at any given instant, even with perfect information < 1242343558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which nobody has < 1242343566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242343586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's different from a proof that it can't possibly work < 1242343589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but scarier, in a way < 1242343803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, ASes have their own equivalent of example.com < 1242343816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242343818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1242343823 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the range 65536-65551 < 1242343836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what happens if you attempt to route there < 1242343841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to be an ISP to even /try/ < 1242343863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then, let's fill out that form and see < 1242343871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(↑ this is the kind of attitude I take to everything) < 1242343905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPE would ask you to take out an account with them, I expect < 1242343912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they even the right continent? < 1242343940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, RIPE do Europe < 1242343946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? we're all set. < 1242343969 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are instructions for filling out the form: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/asnsupport.html < 1242344004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter your Registry Identifier (RegID) in the "x-ncc-regid:" field. RegIDs have the following format: .. < 1242344005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not know your RegID, please contact . < 1242344006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, make one up! < 1242344011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uk.ehirdnet < 1242344035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS Number Type: 16-bit < 1242344035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why 16-bit: Our routers are not 32-bit enabled. < 1242344036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1242344042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can saturate the net with a perfect excuse! < 1242344050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you may have problem filling in the bit where you mark the two ASs who will peer with you < 1242344065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting two existing ISPs to sponsor your application is likely beyond even your ability < 1242344066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Bogons operates an open peering policy, and is keen to peer with ISPs, either publicly at a common Peering Point, or privately at a common site. We are especially keen to peer with networks offering multicast transit or to end users. < 1242344067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—bogons.net < 1242344074 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242344078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's two people, but unfortunately I think they're too ethical < 1242344081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even /own/ an AS router? < 1242344086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... no? < 1242344094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do they cost :^) < 1242344101 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you can convert linux boxes into them < 1242344109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set < 1242344109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could probably fix an old computer into one for free < 1242344129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need any sort of special telephone line or something, like you need to start a dsl isp :-P < 1242344170 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, you aren't going through with this, though, are you? < 1242344181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously wonder what RIPE's reaction would be < 1242344185 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a form of performance art < 1242344190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Agora running a court case against Hillary Clinton < 1242344193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tempted now < 1242344207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though all the effort would come down to "We have decided to decline your AS application. -RIPE" < 1242344222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242344231 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, another point < 1242344235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what IPs would you advertise? < 1242344241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you choose? < 1242344244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be ones you already have, as they belong to a different ISP < 1242344250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to rent out the IPs first < 1242344257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the people who assign IPs < 1242344257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242344268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going IPv6 only would probably make it easier to get hold of a few IPs of your own < 1242344268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: advertising more IPs = more traffic coming my way, right? < 1242344280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: traffic comes your way only if it's to an IP you advertise < 1242344284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242344287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats < 1242344287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you get in trouble if you don't actually have a route to it < 1242344290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather limited < 1242344299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also advertise IPs that belong to your customers < 1242344302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not your peers < 1242344304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, um, I'm going to be routing everything to the AS example.com < 1242344308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you don't carry traffic to other people < 1242344310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "trouble" is an understatement < 1242344318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok, I probably won't follow through with it...) < 1242344352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not following through is all the best < 1242344352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so how do you actually get traffic flow your way? < 1242344361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, most ISPs consider that a bad thing < 1242344372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're the (only|best) person who advertises an address < 1242344382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then traffic to that address is sent to you, on the assumption that you know where to route it to < 1242344389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ISPs advertise the IPs of their customers, for instance < 1242344390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, if you enable javascript on slashdot.org < 1242344393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get the endless pageless style < 1242344398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more items come as you scroll) < 1242344406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but so slowly it doesn't really feel endless < 1242344413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast enough for me < 1242344422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the problem is that they don't do it before you get to the end < 1242344423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the whole point < 1242344426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242344505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/14/0320234 "Cory Doctorow advocates impossible licensing technique in a desperate death throw attempt to give bits value" < 1242344532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creative commons + a royalty requirement? < 1242344538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has he checked that that isn't self-contradictory? < 1242344540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably isn't < 1242344552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd advise at least reading the license you're modifying first < 1242344564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cory was one of the first major CC advocates < 1242344566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assume so < 1242344574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, with cc-by-sa + royalty requirement, who gets the royalties, the original author or the person who modified it? < 1242344625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oxyron-party.untergrund.net/fanta_in_space.mp3 ← I can't believe this came out of a C-64. < 1242344630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty cool < 1242344642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_carrier is interesting < 1242344662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, Tier-1s. < 1242344679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition, a Tier 1 network does not purchase IP transit from any other network or pay settlements to any other network to reach any other portion of the Internet. Therefore, in order to be a Tier 1, a network must peer with every other Tier 1 network. A new network cannot become a Tier 1 without the implicit approval of every other Tier 1 network, since any one network's refusal to peer with it will prevent the new network from being considered a Ti < 1242344681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er 1. < 1242344683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing, of course, is that most traffic's handled by peering at the tier-2 level < 1242344683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-b-l < 1242344702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the list of tier 1 networks is rather disturbing < 1242344705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, if there are any two tier 1 networks who don't peer, it causes a rift in the internet < 1242344711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them are gigantic blob ISPs < 1242344721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like AT&T, Verio, Qwest, Sprint, Verizon... < 1242344728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other ways to do that, but tier 1 vs. tier 1 is a rather simple way < 1242344759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, Cogent settled with Sprint < 1242344765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering how that particular rift got sealed < 1242344774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems Cogent's paying Sprint money now to maintain the same relationship as before < 1242344788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard good stuff about Cogent < 1242344815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A case of industrial espionage arose in 1995 that involved both Intel and AMD. Guillermo Gaede, an Argentine formerly employed both at AMD and at Intel's Arizona plant, was arrested for attempting in 1993 to sell the i486 and Pentium designs to AMD and to certain foreign powers.[23] Gaede videotaped data from his computer screen at Intel and mailed it to AMD, which immediately alerted Intel and authorities, resulting in Gaede's arrest. Gaede was convicte < 1242344817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d and sentenced to 33 months in prison in June 1996.[24][25] < 1242344831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm just going to send this to AMD out of the blue. They'll like that!" < 1242344867 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, AMD alerted Intel? < 1242344870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242344874 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :respect++ < 1242344875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone sends you a competitor's secret stuff < 1242344881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tell them so as not to be accused of using it < 1242344888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really respect < 1242344893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just sanity < 1242344893 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, godo point < 1242344897 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*good < 1242344897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very trivial kind of ethics < 1242344897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or CYA, I suppose < 1242344903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that even slimes probably know of :P < 1242344918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Intel_Costa_12_2007_SJO_105b.jpg the little blocks look like heatsinks. < 1242344958 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel is actually a giant processor < 1242344960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No one has an office; everyone, even Otellini, sits in a cubicle."—[[Intell Corporation]] < 1242344962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Intel < 1242344964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How dreary. < 1242344977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, the entire company of Intel lives inside my computer < 1242344985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not seen their advertising? < 1242344985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happens when you turn it off? < 1242344992 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: presumably they keep working < 1242344998 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're large enough to have their own power supply < 1242345004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's brain explodes
< 1242345021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so if you left it off long enough ... < 1242345042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, presumably they sometimes get hungry and pop out for a pizza < 1242345047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're american, so they only do it while I'm asleep < 1242345056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timezone difference, you see < 1242345062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a dangerous place for someone so small < 1242345065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nanometer-scale < 1242345101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, intel kept the same logo from 1968-2005 < 1242345111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then changed it? no wonder they're in trouble < 1242345123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Intel_Logo.svg old < 1242345124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Intel-logo.svg new < 1242345125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing a logo you haven't changed for decades strikes me as the sort of thing companies only do when desperate < 1242345127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the new one tbh < 1242345148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, even if it is an improvement, it's not the sort of thing a company does when they're doing well < 1242345160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I prefer the new one too < 1242345164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think Intel were doing well in 2005. Remember, they came out with the Core 2 processors then. < 1242345168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were *wildly* successful. < 1242345184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1242345186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 2006 < 1242345187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Core was 2005 < 1242345194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Core doesn't run the Core architecture < 1242345199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Core 2 runs the Core architecture; are you confused yet? < 1242345215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and Core weren't desktop CPUs < 1242345224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were mobile cpus based on P6 < 1242345225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 was one of Intel's first really succesfull CPUs in ages < 1242345226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not NetBurst < 1242345231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, core was 2006-2008 < 1242345234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you had core and core 2 simultaneously < 1242345240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core was based on P6 and was a mobile processor < 1242345246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 was based on Core and was a desktop processor < 1242345252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except < 1242345259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Core processor appeared in the mac mini < 1242345264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not being a desktop processor < 1242345267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you confused yet? < 1242345364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but only because I wasn't trying to follow it < 1242345371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good coice < 1242345372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice < 1242345440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you want to screw around with ASes, it only takes a minimum 8 computers to make an Internet < 1242345453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the traditional Jeremy Clarkson deliberate error is correct here < 1242345459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242345464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internets connect to form an Internet! < 1242345469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it's generally believed that more than one Internet exists as it is, there's just the one big famous one < 1242345496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you make your own Internet, you can assign all the AS numbers and IPs as you like < 1242345498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"generally believed"? < 1242345508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the US Army almost certainly has one < 1242345514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an internet is just a network of computers that is international :P < 1242345514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to tell for certain < 1242345519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not quite < 1242345523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an internet is a network of network < 1242345525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*networks < 1242345530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: step one, join army, step two, see if there's any internets? < 1242345551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine the Army mostly uses the well-known public Internet < 1242345555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(step 3, get killed in staged combat so you don't reveal the horrible secret of the army's cthulhunet) < 1242345567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a private one too, for more important or secret messages < 1242345577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intellipedia is known to exist, after all < 1242345587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a US Wikipedia for spies < 1242345590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even runs MediaWiki < 1242345592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than known to exist < 1242345592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Screenshot-Intellipedia.png < 1242345595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a screenshot < 1242345597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow