< 1244937705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1244937712 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how the hell do i solve these equations < 1244937742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: what equations < 1244937745 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a list of tuples of the form (a, b, D[a] ^ D[b]) < 1244937748 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need D < 1244937751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have magical mathematica so i could give it a go if you want :P < 1244937760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: erm d is of length 2 right? < 1244937767 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1244937779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: that's, uh, not possible, anyway. as you just have the values, not any key stuff < 1244937782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D[a] isn't related to a < 1244937802 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a list of tuples of the form (a, b, D[a] ^ D[b]), and D[0] < 1244937816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i'm not convinced that's possible. < 1244937820 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1244937820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: wait, are the tuples like < 1244937823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0,1,...) < 1244937826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1,2,...( < 1244937826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1244937830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it all permutations < 1244937853 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1244937853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ? < 1244937883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: which < 1244937891 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be (0, 2), (1, 2) < 1244937897 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only possible if you have the right tuples, though. If you know D[0], Knowing D[0]^D[1], D[2]^D[3], D[2]^D[4] < 1244937903 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grah, backspace-problem. < 1244937907 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: exactly < 1244937920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah and you wanna know what (a,b)s you need? < 1244937936 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i know what a,b's i need < 1244937946 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to get the data back < 1244937947 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : given A, A^D, D^B, B^E, E^C, you can solve for all A, B, C, D, E, right? < 1244937962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: well < 1244937966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A^(A^B)=B < 1244937969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B^(A^B)=A < 1244937972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can figure it out frmo that < 1244937973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1244937976 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1244938019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: if we have A, A^D, D^B then B=(D^B)^((A^D)^A) < 1244938022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty obvious < 1244938034 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit i couldn't have guessed! < 1244938037 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can consider the (a,b) tuple as an edge in a graph, then just find a path that starts from 0 and visits each other vertex. (Then you can walk that path by moving from D[a] to D[b] using D[a] and D[a]^D[b].) < 1244938039 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is thousands of items long < 1244938040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i don't get your question < 1244938043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1244938055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: only thousands is trivial though. < 1244938059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sorta. < 1244938102 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ok, in a 120 minute 1080p movie, D is 1.7 billion items long < 1244938113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: true dat. < 1244938116 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this needs to scale asymptotically well :P < 1244938120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:07 fizzie: You can consider the (a,b) tuple as an edge in a graph, then just find a path that starts from 0 and visits each other vertex. (Then you can walk that path by moving from D[a] to D[b] using D[a] and D[a]^D[b].) < 1244938123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds optimal < 1244938128 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1244938134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: it's just graph-walking < 1244938146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: ofc you want to do this at encode-time, right? < 1244938152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not expecting to do this in real-time i hope < 1244938155 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no,this is decoding < 1244938170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: then it'll be far too slow < 1244938178 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1244938184 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't of course actually need a single path that visits each vertex. You just need to have each vertex reachable from 0. < 1244938192 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking to just keep a sparse array of data-dependencies < 1244938199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: finding a shitload of short paths in 1.7 billion items? < 1244938206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll take weeks, man < 1244938282 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1244938290 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :locality of reference is high < 1244938297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you disillusion fizzie < 1244938320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: btw this codec is useless if you can't decode fast, because otherwise you need the disk space for the full version :) < 1244938407 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... if you have a bitmap of all the D[x]'s you know (initialized to contain only D[0]) you can just loop the following: for each known D[a], take all the (a,b) tuples for which D[b] is unknown and use D[a] and D[a]^D[b] to find out D[b]. Then stop when during one iteration you didn't discover any new D[b]'s. If there are any remaining unknown ones, you're out of luck. < 1244938441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That seems filesize-inflatingly. < 1244938466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really been following the context here; I was just talking about the abstract thing. < 1244938473 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was watching a lossily compressed movie. :p < 1244938475 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep a map of undecoded tuples, that you scan for dependencies, outputting as you go < 1244938589 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait it's easier than that < 1244938622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1244938650 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tuples go (1, 2), (2, 4), (4, 3), (3, 5) < 1244938658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're sure you actually have that case like "A, A^D, D^B, B^E, E^C, ..." where you have a single path, you can just directly walk through it by keeping the tuples in map where you can easily index by a. < 1244938682 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or even in an array, ordered by a, since each one will only be there once.) < 1244938705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an array won't work because you can't keep a whole movie in memory < 1244938727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eagerly wait you decoding this fast enough to watch < 1244938735 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1244938863 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't want to keep the whole movie in memory, I guess you have some sort of thing there that you don't get a (1, [last block of the movie]) tuple. < 1244938895 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1244938906 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the encoder uses a fixed-sized window < 1244939250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i know i cant download the whole internet. but u know how u can save website to youre computer...can i download facebook or even just the facebook chat < 1244939257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=717413 < 1244939303 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1244939310 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinion required < 1244939320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: ur a fag < 1244939323 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1244939325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opinion given < 1244939327 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg rally? < 1244939332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1244939335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a rally of OMGs < 1244939336 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1244939374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote: < 1244939374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Originally Posted by rdowns < 1244939376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't believe no one mentioned this. Just take a server on the plane. < 1244939378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i get one and do they let u take them on the plane? if i do will i be able to use fb and aim? im just really scared of goin on the plane and it wd be cool to talk to friends < 1244939381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDDDDDDDDD < 1244939386 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, im thinking of designing a grammar engine language < 1244939390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1244939435 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what i intend to do is have grammar rules be first class in the language < 1244939494 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1244939772 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i'm bored < 1244939903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: turn green. < 1244939957 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1459422 < 1244939962 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you can finish < 1244939974 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your completely untested compressor < 1244939975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: meh < 1244939983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it own't it won't compress enough :) < 1244940476 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow now this is weird < 1244940489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: wut < 1244940509 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started playing with elias-gamma coding results from just the sequential xoring < 1244940512 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on integers < 1244940514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah? < 1244940531 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to work well with multiple passes < 1244940556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: sweet < 1244940562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just put it in a loop where it stops if it doesn't help :P < 1244940631 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it will expand a ton, then shrink back smaller < 1244940642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1244940642 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running on range(1000) < 1244940693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i'm not exactly sure how elias gamma would ever shorten it < 1244940757 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1244940767 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after xoring, you end up with lots of small numbers < 1244940800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: but elias-gamma always is longer than the source < 1244940820 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhuh < 1244940828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_gamma_coding < 1244940830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am I wrong? < 1244940834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always prepends something to the binary < 1244940837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it will never shrink < 1244940843 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do yo mean by source? < 1244940853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: the number you're encoding < 1244940856 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only meaningful for a certain encoding of source < 1244940856 0 :Kolonai!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders how to store and combine fractions of bits. < 1244940870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: do you mean that elias-gammaing it, then gzipping, sometimes shortens it? < 1244940872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can believe that < 1244940875 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1244940884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: so htf does it shorten it < 1244940903 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you take 1, 1^2, 1^2^3, 1^2^3^4, etc < 1244940911 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly more than once < 1244940919 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then elias-gamma that < 1244940934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: bitsin(elias-gamma(x))>bitsin(x). < 1244940939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so elias-gamma can never shorten... < 1244940977 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitsin(natural number) is nonsensical < 1244940992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: bitsinbinaryrepresentationof. < 1244941012 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you encode an arbitrary natural number in binary? < 1244941031 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_code+ < 1244941033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: from [[Elias gamma coding]]: < 1244941037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To code a number: < 1244941037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write it in binary. < 1244941040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED. < 1244941072 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1244941079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: you're saying that sometimes elias-gamma shortens the input < 1244941084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no fucking sense < 1244941101 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you going to find the boundaries between the numbers? < 1244941111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not < 1244941114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but elias-gamma has overhead < 1244941116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plain and simple < 1244941119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT CAN NEVER SHORTEN < 1244941125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you dodging that? < 1244941132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are saying that elias gamma is shortening at some point < 1244941133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nonsensical < 1244941134 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorten compared to _what_ < 1244941140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't freaking know < 1244941141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said it < 1244941147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:50 bsmntbombdood: actually, it will expand a ton, then shrink back smaller < 1244941321 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1244941483 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1244941843 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1244941987 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1244942501 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: for example, the sequnce (1, 200000) is compressed into 208738 bits < 1244942522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1244942529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: odd definition of compress :) < 1244942542 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an odd definition? < 1244942558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> 200000<208738 < 1244942558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> true < 1244942559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say < 1244942568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that it's a compact representation < 1244942570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not compression :P < 1244942602 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, ok -- naively, using 18 bit ints, it takes 3600000 bits < 1244942631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,yeah < 1244942658 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, using elias gamma without any xoring, it takes 6475750 bits < 1244942667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1244942672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good representation < 1244942674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll give you that < 1244942775 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's very good with runs - each item takes 1 bit < 1244942996 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4, 12, 4, 3] * 1000 -> 4018 bits after 4 iterations < 1244943327 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1244944220 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, bzip2 ought to be really easy to paralellize < 1244944235 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the block sorting is probably the slowest part, and that's done in fixed sized blocks < 1244944304 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Can I ask what block sorting is? < 1244944338 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :burrows-wheeler transform < 1244946265 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1244946634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Reboot" < 1244946868 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1244947528 0 :calamari-!n=calamari@ip70-171-202-185.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244947531 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244950163 0 :calamari-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1244950712 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, GreaseMonkey, Gracenotes: This channel ain't big enough for the three of us. < 1244950719 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1244950721 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo. < 1244950734 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION growls. < 1244950735 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrrrrrrrrrr < 1244950952 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egorR < 1244950956 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RRRRRRRRRRRRRR < 1244952794 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244952794 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1244953002 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244956333 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1244957621 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1244959021 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1244963094 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/music/auto/Blusteringly%20Versed%20Sonata.ogg // the latest version of my algorithm is having some sweet results 8-D < 1244963782 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(02:14:53 AM) <>: My friend didn't think that second one was made by ai < 1244963788 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, it passes the musical Turing test :P < 1244964134 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is that < 1244964170 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's music made by an algo I wrote. < 1244964171 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it ai or just generative? < 1244964184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just generative, but I choose not to correct my friend :P < 1244965371 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-28.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1244965708 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :masterpiecemachine.com is registered and hasn't been updated in 9 years ... < 1244965712 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has no content. < 1244965718 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should email the owner and ask to buy it :P < 1244965792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, you mean wolfram hasn't bought it for their alpha yet? ;D < 1244965875 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1244965889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*his < 1244966186 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244966399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1244966400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1244966675 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you were using the Royal 'they' < 1244966691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that may be true < 1244966698 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1244966709 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Wolfram is a royal twit < 1244966710 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1244966737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, explainer-of-jokes < 1244966766 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO PROBLEM, CITIZEN. < 1244966769 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flies off < 1244966782 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that should be masterpieceautomaton.com. < 1244966801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be, might be < 1244966810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i'm pretty sure alpha is no CA < 1244966921 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all automaton are cellular automaton! < 1244966928 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. automata? < 1244966947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk < 1244966958 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automats. < 1244966967 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1244966987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's english... < 1244967004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it is < 1244967011 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just means something different < 1244967019 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just made it up for fun. < 1244967023 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop being ridiculous. < 1244967034 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um but it is < 1244967039 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automat < 1244967106 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, im sure it is < 1244967111 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im saying i just constructed the word on the fly < 1244967126 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it is homophonous with an existing word is coincidental and can be dismissed as irrelevant. < 1244967139 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a related note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bamn_Automat.png < 1244967143 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been past there. < 1244967221 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad to hear they've closed < 1244970999 0 :tetha!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1244971008 0 :tetha!n=hk@pD9EE7977.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244972452 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1244972671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1244972681 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1244973829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1244974015 0 :MizardX-!n=MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1244974343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1244974344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1244974346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1244974666 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-15-241.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244974916 0 :whtspc!n=chatzill@g234109.upc-g.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1244975076 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have made a sketch for an esolang based on nand logic-gates < 1244975080 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244975087 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lacks recursion for now < 1244975094 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1244975133 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at initialisation you have a infinite memory tape filled with 0's < 1244975200 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every memory cell has the adress named by a natural number < 1244975238 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main syntax of the language is this: < 1244975250 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:2#3 < 1244975278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1244975296 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, so how do you program in it? < 1244975298 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that the result of the value at adress 2 NAND the value at adress 3 will be put in adress 1 < 1244975301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1244975328 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:1#2/4:3#1/5:3#2/6:4#5 < 1244975328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, are the rules processed in order, iterating through the list? < 1244975347 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 1 is equal to 2, 6 is false (0) < 1244975354 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anmaster: yes < 1244975360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1244975398 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will be able to input with the following command ,adress < 1244975413 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it will put the binary byte starting at the adress < 1244975421 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outpt: .adress < 1244975435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, based on how bf does it? < 1244975436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1244975451 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1244975468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, hm, you can't skip input/output based on conditions can you? < 1244975470 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I need a thing for recursion that's more creative < 1244975491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you will always have to input/output a fixed number of bytes each iteration < 1244975544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, are these rules separated by a newline in the input or? < 1244975545 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It needs an if-construction < 1244975590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1244975594 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like esolangs without newlines, so probably a / will separate the actions < 1244975632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1244975660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, are you new here? I don't remember seeing you here before. < 1244975682 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like some fair feedback (tell me it's boring/been done a 1000 times before), so I can quit working on it :) < 1244975698 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't come here often < 1244975699 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made paintfuck < 1244975700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, actually I haven't heard of something like this before. < 1244975707 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 3-day hit :) < 1244975724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, thanks for that < 1244975730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rare to see a BF derivative that is actually interesting < 1244975732 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Paintfuck was < 1244975736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1244975747 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, thank you < 1244975814 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it rather boring to insert [ ] in the nand-language < 1244975835 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would probably look like 6[ < 1244975854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, that looks like some sort of IR representation for some optimising BF compiler < 1244975856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1244975856 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if memorycell 6 is false skip the parentheses < 1244975871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, you need more nand < 1244975893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about "if memory cell x nand y != memory cell z then" < 1244975897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1244975912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe fix z to 0 or such < 1244975919 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me but what's IR representation? < 1244975949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, oops, that would be "Intermediate Representation representation" < 1244975950 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more NAND to complicate, or as feature? < 1244975957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so drop one of those representation, < 1244975967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/./ < 1244975974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, not sure. < 1244975994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, is that bitwise nand btw? < 1244976005 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1244976012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how large is each "cell"? < 1244976024 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one bit < 1244976033 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true or false < 1244976038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok. So then it is same as logical nand for this purpose < 1244976167 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could one cell (for instance cell 0) be the checkup cell for iteration? < 1244976199 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the program is divided in portions with eg. char ! < 1244976242 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when program reaches ! it checks memory cell 0, if true go back to previos ! < 1244976254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1244976279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, might work. You need some way to shuffle data to/from this cell in between < 1244976289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also another question. How do you fill in initial values < 1244976309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. with nand that isn't an issue is it? < 1244976315 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A:A#A < 1244976319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 'and' it would be. < 1244976327 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the initial value is 0 < 1244976348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nand always confuse me. Probably because most languages doesn't have it. < 1244976353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C doesn't iirc for example. < 1244976356 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :memA NAND memA is the same as not memA < 1244976361 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it 1 < 1244976364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1244976367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: !(a && b) < 1244976370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := a NAND b < 1244976372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right < 1244976384 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need for a separate operator, you can trivially form it out of the ones you have < 1244976391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right. < 1244976462 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have one cell to check for returning back to previous ! < 1244976475 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can't have loops in loops < 1244976598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whtspc, can't you shuffle the value around < 1244976622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "move loop cell to cell x, move cell y to loop cell" < 1244976622 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1244976632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how you would do that with nand < 1244976638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but might be possible? < 1244976659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can swap two values with just nands < 1244976667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the nands into xors and do an xor swap < 1244976691 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be very interesting < 1244976767 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it'sjust the same as checking wether the state of a certain cell is true/false < 1244976779 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but complicated with swapping < 1244976851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1244977115 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other thing that worries me a bit is that when an adress isn't pointed to in the program, it can never be part of execution < 1244977123 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know if that < 1244977134 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is problem to make working language < 1244977952 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the name of the language would probably refer to a certain ABBA song < 1244977986 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FERnO < 1244977992 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FER#O < 1244978003 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fernando < 1244978027 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because more esolangs should refer to ABBA-songs < 1244978571 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Farewell" < 1244978939 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1244979089 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1244979395 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-123-155.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1244980506 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1244980692 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"YES -> thor-ainor.it <- THIS IS *DELICIOUS*!" < 1244980709 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1244981133 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-125-211.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244981431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1244981435 0 :ehird!n=ehird@208.78.103.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1244981449 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]" < 1244981816 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1244982002 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1244982459 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1244982836 0 :MaxDrAkyla!n=maxdraky@213.87.81.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1244982853 0 :MaxDrAkyla!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1244983975 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-10-37.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1244984474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1244984883 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244985529 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1244986668 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244989416 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244989880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Amusing random IRC paste from people with names like 'BBB' and 'Dark_Shikari'. Very authoritative. Links to specific patents please. Thanks." < 1244989885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— because authority is determined by IRC nickname. < 1244990024 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1244990993 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-9-232.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244991234 0 :jix!n=jix@77-20-205-106-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1244991249 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94.194.111.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1244991814 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1244991855 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1244992469 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1244993153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where is that quote from < 1244993163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: reddit. < 1244993182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBB and Dark_Shikari are developers of x264, which is basically the best open source lossy video encoder in existence. < 1244993193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1244993193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we figured u reddit, but _where_? < 1244993193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and possibly one of the best lossy encoders full stop) < 1244993204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haw haw haw < 1244993353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I like the annotation to IWC today < 1244993362 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1244993397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1244993412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I guess having a computer program that need exact time doesn't count? < 1244993459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolexes are for people, not computer, AnMaster. < 1244993464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1244993483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Seriously, who need to know the time to better than a few seconds anyway" < 1244993495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless your program is a strong AI, anthropomorphizing it is wrong. < 1244993503 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1244993507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they don't like that < 1244993543 0 :sanxiyn!n=tinuviel@dor22284.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1244993684 0 :Asztal!n=moo@chunkybacon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1244993944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YARGH < 1244993946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704060] ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen < 1244993946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704075] ata4.00: cmd ca/00:01:98:7d:65/00:00:00:00:00/e6 tag 0 dma 512 out < 1244993946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704078] res 40/00:00:01:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout) < 1244993959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have the paintfuck .swf lying around? Asztal? You did some stuff with it. Slereah? < 1244993959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer locked up for about half a minute during that < 1244993967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file upload expired. < 1244993970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems it re-initialised the drive after: < 1244993981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704084] ata4.00: status: { DRDY } < 1244993982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704112] ata4: soft resetting link < 1244993982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.861464] ata4.00: configured for UDMA/100 < 1244993982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.861484] ata4: EH complete < 1244994171 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-125-211.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244994225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, any clue what DRDY is? All I find on google is various error messages containing it, and some vague mention saying basically "DRDY is useless, it should not have been in the standard". But I can't find a description on what this "DRDY" _is_... < 1244994237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Context? < 1244994247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ATA error message from dmesg < 1244994254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Jun 14 15:37:41 tux [99654.704084] ata4.00: status: { DRDY } < 1244994259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: get ata standard? < 1244994269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, expensive or open? < 1244994277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: piracy < 1244994281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.t13.org/ < 1244994283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.t13.org/ < 1244994284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1244994285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technical Committee T13 is responsible for all interface standards relating to the popular AT Attachment (ATA) storage interface utilized as the disk drive interface on most personal and mobile computers today. < 1244994293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it may be open. < 1244994298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1244994304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you didn't happen to know what it was then? < 1244994308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1244994469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found another way < 1244994470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :include/linux/ata.h: ATA_DRDY = (1 << 6), /* device ready */ < 1244994471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep < 1244995525 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1244995659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:39 ehird: Anyone have the paintfuck .swf lying around? Asztal? You did some stuff with it. Slereah? < 1244995865 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-215.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1244996185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f=:*/1+i. < 1244996195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm fails < 1244996288 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://firefly.nu/diverse/bottles.html <-- I want CSS conditionals :| < 1244996318 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And HTML in content:-inserted content < 1244996318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha awesome < 1244996333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: just do things like :after:after:before < 1244996335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use CSS on 'em < 1244996344 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is that actually possible? < 1244996358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully < 1244996359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1244996367 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is pseudo-element for that < 1244996368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yours goes to -1 bob :) < 1244996376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: he knows that much... < 1244996393 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know < 1244996401 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't correct the grammar either < 1244996413 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there any way to loop only using css? < 1244996417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1244996425 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just replicate? :S < 1244996453 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first idea was to insert a new
in the :after content, e.g. recursively < 1244996460 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I realised I can't insert HTML :( < 1244996466 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1244996471 0 :MizardX!n=MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1244997444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:07 ehird: 15:39 ehird: Anyone have the paintfuck .swf lying around? Asztal? You did some stuff with it. Slereah? < 1244997444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1244997716 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's expired? < 1244997729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1244997757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how idiotic < 1244997972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haf you got it? < 1244997988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not < 1244997995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1244998043 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't there other implementations? < 1244998105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, a javascript one < 1244998118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're all shit to use < 1244998121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and slow and crap. < 1244998156 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the C/C++ ones? < 1244998162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah. < 1244998164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1244998166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might not be slow < 1244998168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but suck to use. < 1244998575 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1244998888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna try the uberman's sleep schedule soon. < 1244998911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in spite of all the "if you're under 18 or pregnant don't do this you fucking retard you need >3hrs of sleep a day" warnings people say. :) < 1244998994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should at least be safe on the pregnancy issue. < 1244999009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i don't plan to get pregnant any time soon < 1244999095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just wary about losing ~10 days to insanity < 1244999118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bsmntbombdood had a pretty fucking bad time with uberman's :P < 1244999131 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the .swf, sorry :( < 1244999138 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figure anyone who starts with uberman's at this point is already insane, so nothing to worry about. < 1244999143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: do you have the .exe? < 1244999146 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1244999153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be able to extract the .swf or sth < 1244999155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yah < 1244999159 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: possibly, likely in fact < 1244999169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to boot, lack of sunlight depresses me :) < 1244999174 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I preferred the javascript + canvas one < 1244999184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i could buy one of those sunlight emulators < 1244999219 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I do have the SWF < 1244999233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1244999241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: <3 < 1244999260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should write some stuff when i start uberman's < 1244999272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i end up pretty surrealist after a day with no night's sleep < 1244999280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine 3 days < 1244999333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really cool thing about uberman's is how it rewires your brain to enter REM immediately < 1244999346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: so uh could you upload it :D < 1244999377 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably somewhere permanent, the wiki is missing a working link... < 1244999388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuh, filebin.ca would be nice < 1244999409 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1244999469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that goes for the .exe too < 1244999476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw if i do uberman's for 70 years (= 83, a bit optimistic life expectancy but the march of technology etc) straight, i will gain an extra 14 and a half years awake :D < 1244999485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the .exe is just a compiled .swf, so it's rather useless < 1244999548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the disadvantage is: if it does physiological damage, i'll be worse off than if I tried uberman's later, due to being younger and still growing < 1244999553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh! < 1244999602 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exe is 3MB, too < 1244999604 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/hevveq/pain.swf < 1244999626 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd upload to my own website, but that looks rather unpermanent at the minute :( < 1244999643 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody put it in the files archive. < 1244999665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION seems to be somewhat likely to hit 80... < 1244999689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that my relatives tend to die in their 80s or 90s. < 1244999701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i think that's pretty much a given if we all avoid being killed. with the accelerating rate of science and the possibility of the singularity, 80 is a weak, weak estimate :) < 1244999714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Right, right. < 1244999734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also cryonics; if it works, there's people like 150 years old alive :) < 1244999738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of: We are fucking *growing organs* and *putting them in people*. < 1244999741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1244999743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in a solid state coma < 1244999744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but alive < 1244999756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: a performance artist got himself an ear grown and put it on his arm < 1244999758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i just thought < 1244999764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck do you want a grown ear on your arm < 1244999770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT IT DOESN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING < 1244999776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT JUST HEARS AND RELAYS THE HEARING ONTO NOTHING < 1244999778 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"solid state coma" < 1244999789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Yuh-huh? < 1244999798 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like that expression :P < 1244999809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 'strue :P < 1244999817 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: at this rate you could well end up getting pregnant... < 1244999827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :singularity babies < 1244999854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs standalone flash player < 1244999934 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1244999950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1244999956 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1245000098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1245000100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it loads < 1245000103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to play with it! < 1245000117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paintfuck is fun :) < 1245000169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:55:14 pgimeno: whtspc: *[[se*nwnw*se*se]*[ne*swsw*ne*ne]*] < 1245000171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i love how that bounces around. < 1245000341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh it's so nice to watch the pseudoturing automata. < 1245000370 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://codu.org/music/auto/Ridiculously%20Absent%20Toccata.mid (or .ogg) < 1245000399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's good, but the tunes as of late have been a bit too dramatic imo < 1245000419 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1245000440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wow, my midi is way better than yours < 1245000445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the .ogg sounds like shit < 1245000497 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your soundfont? < 1245000509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: OS X's/ < 1245000510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1245000515 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh < 1245000523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they acquired eMagic's Logic, I guess they put a lot of stock into it < 1245000546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I could try and record the .mids if you want. < 1245000557 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'd like to give one a listen. < 1245000579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Sure. Name a track. < 1245000582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one? < 1245000586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds great. < 1245000589 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That or Onerously, sure. < 1245000607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Render Cake-Eating on your box, I bet it sounds like crap because your midi doesn't jive with it :P < 1245000740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No chance that it sounds like crap because, oh, it sounds like crap? X-P < 1245000759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely not. < 1245000781 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-111-15.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245000925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Recordinng ridiculously absent tccata. < 1245000927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Recording < 1245000977 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1245000982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Toccata < 1245001026 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sound font oh I want good sound font :( < 1245001084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Recordedamated. < 1245001104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sanxiyn: oello 'aven't seen you before here. < 1245001108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Uploadingermating. < 1245001127 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Actually I haven't been here at all... < 1245001136 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir told me about here. < 1245001148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that would make sense :P < 1245001149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"what about a sound mind?" < 1245001167 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I'm now in the same room lifthrasiir lives :) < 1245001229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: http://filebin.ca/bmdpxh/RidiculouslyAbsentToccata.mp3 < 1245001289 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't sound like the difference is any technical innovation, just a better soundfont. < 1245001305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Of course. < 1245001310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: But it does sound an awful lot better. < 1245001314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your rendering sounds, well, MIDI :P < 1245001319 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does yours. < 1245001321 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just better MIDI. < 1245001334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. I'ma render cake-eating now, since I'm insistent that's a good song. < 1245001610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: May you know the Lord's true sound... < 1245001613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(upload upload upload) < 1245001628 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you mean "the LORD" < 1245001674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: יהוה < 1245001678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: http://filebin.ca/wojhum/OnerousCake-EatingFestivalDisallowmentBarricade.mp3 < 1245001694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on the eighth day, God created good MIDI soundfonts. < 1245001702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he saw what it resulted in; and it was good. < 1245001714 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on the ninth day, he made them expensive and only bundled them with shitty OSes :P < 1245001726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody's perfect :P < 1245001755 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1245001801 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200906/side_project_endgame.html <- so true < 1245001801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Anyway, thou shalt now see its true colours. < 1245001809 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it is vaguely musical here :P < 1245001849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm curious to how it sounds on your end; totally random notes? :P < 1245001869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not that dissimilar, but pretty hectic. < 1245001881 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Converting < 1245001960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'll start liking even the worst ones when I Uberman myself up. < 1245001964 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uploading < 1245001974 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1245001975 0 :MigoMipo_!n=MigoMipo@84-217-5-201.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245001980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you'll be tired all the time. < 1245002009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Well, yeah; it *is* a 10-day sleep deprivation program before you adjust. < 1245002020 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1245002032 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-5-201.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245002038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit can fuck you up; 13 days of no sleep will make you go insane and kill you. With Uberman's you start napping on day two or so, though, so it's more like the effect of 3 days. < 1245002272 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/ctegd/OnerousCake-EatingFestivalDisallowmentBarricade.ogg < 1245002322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Wow, that misses the main melody line. < 1245002334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a bunch of the hooks. < 1245002411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That's really awful to listen to, I keep getting the expectation of melody yet none comes. < 1245002573 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245002881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1245002888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should specify my circuit CA < 1245003217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaaha someone thinks that the uberman's schedule was made by a guy called uberman < 1245003221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hahaha < 1245003354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Beat him with ubermensch. < 1245003361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1245003362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[After sleep deprivation there is a sharp rebound of SWS, suggesting there is a "need" for this stage.]] < 1245003367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uberman's skips that stage < 1245003371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes straight from a quick stage 1 to REM < 1245003381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i've never heard anyone doing uberman's properly actually have any problems < 1245003430 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of problems. < 1245003435 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them social. < 1245003441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1245003502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: otoh polyphasic sleep doesn't inherently impair social stuff < 1245003514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep#Comparison_of_sleep_patterns < 1245003519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, biphasic there is trivial < 1245003524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just reserve some time at noon < 1245003537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not inherent, it's just that it's tricky to take a nap every few hours. ;P < 1245003549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: however... a woman with a kid and everything (the inventor of Uberman) is doing Everyman < 1245003556 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1245003563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(= uberman but 4 naps instead of 6, and one is longer) < 1245003577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme dig a link < 1245003614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.puredoxyk.com/ < 1245003625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://www.puredoxyk.com/index.php/category/polyphasic/ < 1245003661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but i could see, say, spending the day in another town would be difficult < 1245003669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1245003684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you'd have to sleep on a bench somewhere while everyone else you're with goes off and does whatever :P < 1245003691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that though... < 1245003730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the guy who thinks "Uberman" invented it says they gave up after four days because they had no idea what to do with 22 hour days < 1245003734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're barmy! < 1245003739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :days are sooooo short < 1245003748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :htf do you think that < 1245003753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're mr bored mcboredson < 1245003781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm capable of using all 24 hours in a day. < 1245003821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah. gimme some sunlight and a rested body and i'll never, ever want to stop < 1245003841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite this i accomplish very little; but that's just adhd-esqueness and perfectionism :) < 1245003862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Like one day I set my alarm clock, lied down on my bed, laid my head on my pillow, and the alarm clock sounded. I slowly got up and looked at it. Twenty minutes had passed in what felt like one second. It was the fastest I’ve ever gone to sleep in my life." < 1245003870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if this works for someone who can never sleep :) < 1245003874 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mum likes Ridiculously Absent Toccata < 1245003954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very likeable < 1245003976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently lucid dreaming is a lot easier w/ uberman's and dream recall is perfect < 1245003980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC should try it :-) < 1245003996 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uberman's is sounding more fake every minute. < 1245004026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: howso? < 1245004031 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My roommate did polyphasic sleep last semester. < 1245004035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple independent sources have tried it and gone through with it < 1245004038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it lasted a couple of weeks. < 1245004039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reported the same effects < 1245004051 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He then went back to his 2-4 hours of sleep at night. < 1245004052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the two who have done it are very avid about it < 1245004057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see why it'd be some prank < 1245004146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: also, infants sleep polyphasically < 1245004156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80% of their sleep is REM — just like napping schedules. < 1245004163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: and they sleep sporadically in ~20 minute bursts. < 1245004223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the human norm is biphasic sleep. < 1245004230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1245004234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: siesta) < 1245004257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you let it go naturally — which our culture doesn't — you start polyphasic then transition to biphasic, which is a minor change, really < 1245004262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just consolidating one to three naps < 1245004270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really, uberman's is just tweaking it a little /shrug < 1245004284 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245004346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main problem with uberman's will be giving up caffeine < 1245004384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do caffeine on everyman's and biphasic < 1245004402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unless you have just a small amount right after waking in Uberman's, yer gonna miss your nap < 1245004407 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play the first 1/2 page of Onerously Uptight Toccata! (Up to the first 8va) < 1245004427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:26 GregorR: Uberman's is sounding more fake every minute. ← wanna expand on this? < 1245004433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: cool, that track is really catchy < 1245004450 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I don't care to expand on it :P < 1245004460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why'd you say it >:| < 1245004469 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm an ass? < 1245004487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your loss :P < 1245004530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1245004538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone commented saying that dreams happen in non-REM < 1245004543 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Re: OUT) It's tough to learn because it's so distinctly non-human ... rarely do you in normal music have one hand syncopated while the other isn't, and never is one hand off by a 16th note. Also, neither hand sounds particularly musical by itself, but the emergent sound of both is musical, so it's hard to learn one hand at a time. < 1245004544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I was wondering if it was a fake too... < 1245004544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while almost all recalled dreams happen in REM... < 1245004552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why? < 1245004558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get how it sounds realistic < 1245004562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not some silver bullet < 1245004566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the downsides are obvious < 1245004573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, " i don't get how it sounds realistic" <-- huh? < 1245004575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it makes perfect sense, sicentifically < 1245004577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: unrealistic < 1245004579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245004580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple typo < 1245004583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1245004584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*scientifically < 1245004585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was confusing though < 1245004597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yeah, it is rather alien < 1245004637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food is ready :) < 1245004640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1245004641 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the fact that the first rest of any kind (just not playing very fast) hasn't come yet :P < 1245004673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so fun being a crazy child < 1245004684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you should assemble a band to play it < 1245004690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the original instruments < 1245004696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drums, steel drums and guitar < 1245004707 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1245004720 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that steel drums can actually do that :P < 1245004731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I've played steel drums and heard songs made with them < 1245004738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing unrealistic sounding there. < 1245004753 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only play two notes at once, right? < 1245004755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: The pitch-changing drums might pose more of a problem; just get a few different-sounding ones. < 1245004759 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three- and four-note chords. < 1245004765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Also, you have multiple steel drums :P < 1245004785 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know, but you have to use your hands to play them, and you only have two hands :P < 1245004789 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1245004792 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple PLAYERS < 1245004796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1245004805 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense X-P < 1245004810 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would be bitchin' sweet. < 1245004828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But finding one steel drum player in West Lafayette, Indiana would be nigh on impossible, finding two? Silly :P < 1245004850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'll find one and we can both fly off there. I will play the instrument person coördinator. :P < 1245004861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two, rather. < 1245004874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll, uh, conduct, as I play none of those instruments. < 1245004880 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also do the lyrics. < 1245004887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm sure you can hit some differently-pitched drums of one kind. < 1245004899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[the drum line :P] < 1245004901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[not steel] < 1245004907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh < 1245004907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wow, lyrics would have to be über-weird < 1245004911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what time signature is it in? < 1245004921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever time signature it's in, it's idiosyncratic even for it :) < 1245004936 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/4 < 1245004939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Although its title would fit quite well as a lyric at some points in it < 1245005017 0 :sanxiyn!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1245005064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1245005067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just figured out what "frequent flier" meant < 1245005070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :means < 1245005082 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ amazing :P < 1245005083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flyer < 1245005086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I KNOW. < 1245005091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea, it just didn't register. < 1245005103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I thought it was the, uh, bits of paper you stick up on walls outside and stuff to advertise things at first. < 1245005113 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1245005115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that made NO FUCKING SENSE in all the contexts it was used in. < 1245005694 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1245005741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it occurs to me that uberman shifts a lot of maintenance on to you < 1245005749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't be surprised if excercise requirements increased < 1245005994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foop doop < 1245006215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't it something like "if you travel more than y / month you can get slightly cheaper tickets"? < 1245006230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's someone who flies frequently. < 1245006239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :durp durp < 1245006253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah, I was confusing it with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequent_flyer_program < 1245006267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the context I have seen it in < 1245006460 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :durp durp your FACE < 1245006472 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.97 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245006484 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-14-154.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1245006500 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish Your FACE! < 1245006501 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuoor FECE! Bork Bork Bork! < 1245006525 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your FECES! Bork Bork Bork! < 1245006541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ̂_ ̂ < 1245006547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^____________________________^ < 1245006551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ... was weird ... < 1245006556 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: WTF is with that smiley? < 1245006575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Combining diacritics were involved. < 1245006643 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're FECES! Bork Bork Bork! < 1245006679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Your wrong bitch. < 1245006812 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nuh uh, it's YOUR wrong. < 1245006844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: PIG DISGUSTING < 1245007411 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1245008220 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245008764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION discovered how getline is implemented. < 1245008841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reads in a few bytes, then recurses. When it hits the end of what it's been asked to get, it mallocs enough space for the buffer, sticks its few bytes in there, then returns. < 1245008905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, a popular polyphasic forum bans people under 18 because wooo scary dangerous :-) < 1245008931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so I've now implemented bubble sort and insertion sort in Rubicon < 1245008937 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1245008947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather like to do an O(n log n) algorithm, but they're probably much harder < 1245008955 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-45.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245008966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubicon ay? < 1245008967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rube inspired? < 1245008980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, it's a computer game which is RUBE plus a few extra rules to make it a game < 1245009004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw you're probably the most level-headed person in here, if in the next 10 days i get significantly more crazy than usual tell me to stop uberman's please. < 1245009005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1245009006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1245009009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uberman's? < 1245009030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: polyphasic sleep schedule based around naps consisting of almost entirely REM sleep instead of long sleep < 1245009040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 hour nap once every 4 hours. < 1245009040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245009046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, nigh-on impossible to adjust to. < 1245009049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, ? < 1245009058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: clarify "?" :P < 1245009060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 > 4 < 1245009066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245009069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 minute nap once every 4 hours < 1245009076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol twenty hour nap :D < 1245009340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how established polyphasists go back to monophasic sleep < 1245009358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe by attempting to burn out and not using an alarm so that your naps relapse into regular sleep < 1245009399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was semiphasic for about a week < 1245009402 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleeping once per two days < 1245009417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get back to monophasic, wake up in the morning a few days in a row deliberately < 1245009428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get instantaneously rather tired, but everything's back to normal before long < 1245009453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 0.5-phasic isn't really comparable to >1-phasic :) < 1245009512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because if you try and go to monophasic from polyphasic, you'll become extremely tired after the 4 hours < 1245009523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then if you sleep, you'll go through the compact nap schedule and wake up in 20 minutes < 1245009546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i theorize you have to do that, stay awake for as long as you can, then try and extend the naps as long as possible < 1245009554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably only take 2-3 cycles to relapse < 1245009923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the polyphasic week: monday, jutfay, tuesday, mantfay, wednesday, tofay, thursday, notefay, friday, tipperfay, saturday, ratafay, sunday, lunnerfay < 1245010111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the new ones take up 10PM-6AM < 1245010149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polyphasic probably isn't compatible with school/work < 1245010176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has been done < 1245010221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heck, the woman who named it does everyman (uberman except one "core nap" which is a bit longer at night) and she has a kid < 1245010228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but admittedly, probably not the easiest thing. < 1245010244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: still, it's just a matter of finding 20 minutes every 4 hours < 1245010255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, if I couldn't find that sort of time anyway, I'd burn out < 1245011292 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-32-44.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1245012025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: what does OUT sound like on your system? I'm curious as to whether i'm hearing it wrong < 1245012242 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1245014645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1245015449 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Listen to the .ogg < 1245015966 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245016818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Which? < 1245017074 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245017635 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1245018150 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://codu.org/music/auto/Onerously%20Uptight%20Toccata.ogg < 1245018178 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-125-211.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245018202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wow, it sounds way different on my machine < 1245018207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot more hyperactive < 1245018262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: yours seems less tuneful, but more rhythmical < 1245018387 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Generalizations! I don't understand them!" < 1245018403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Fine, then an mp3 you shall have < 1245018641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: And thusly it was uploading. < 1245018695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: http://filebin.ca/mpzznt/OnerouslyUptightToccata.mp3 < 1245018732 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' filebin. < 1245018738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Wat < 1245018740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that new, I never saw filebin links until recentlY :P < 1245018747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a few months. < 1245018754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1245018756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mid-2008. < 1245018760 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1245018773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a reason that your version sounds utterly like garbage? < 1245018780 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this just the worst guitar soundfont ever or what? < 1245018797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: What? mine sounds great :P < 1245018811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Your notes are just too short < 1245018814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap man, the others sounded better than mine, but this is /awful/ < 1245018824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Well, I agree. < 1245018832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yours is a lot better in this case. < 1245018841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the guitar. < 1245018844 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac OS X guitar FAIL < 1245018899 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245018913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: BTW, I highly doubt OUT is actually 4/4. < 1245018920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rests are just enough to put it out of sync :P < 1245018952 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's very 4/4 < 1245018968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1245018984 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a lot of syncopation, but written on paper it's clear how it all comes together and it's very much 4/4 < 1245018991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I s'pose :P < 1245019002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the repeating steel drums riff < 1245019029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun, dun dun, dwun dwin dwun dwun, dwun dwun dwundwundwun. < 1245019047 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there are no rests, so I'm not sure what you mean by that :P < 1245019065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it sounds like there are :P < 1245019115 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you send all of those messages entirely after I said " Also, there are no rests, so I'm not sure what you mean by that :P", or am I getting ultralag? < 1245019139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Starting with which? < 1245019146 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dunno. < 1245019148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:36:24 It has a lot of syncopation, but written on paper it's clear how it all comes together and it's very much 4/4 < 1245019149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:36:31 I s'pose :P < 1245019150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:36:42 I love the repeating steel drums riff < 1245019152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:37:09 Dun, dun dun, dwun dwin dwun dwun, dwun dwun dwundwundwun. < 1245019154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:37:27 Also, there are no rests, so I'm not sure what you mean by that :P < 1245019156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:37:45 Well, it sounds like there are :P < 1245019158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:38:35 Did you send all of those messages entirely after I said " Also, there are no rests, so I'm not sure what you mean by that :P", or am I getting ultralag? < 1245019158 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1245019161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:38:59 GregorR: Starting with which? < 1245019163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from clog < 1245019166 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting supermegaultralag. < 1245019173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: More lag than my system. < 1245019179 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my packets GO TO ORBIT. < 1245019225 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245019349 0 :whtspc!n=chatzill@g234109.upc-g.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1245019540 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@97-118-135-161.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245020006 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1245020848 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245021048 0 :whtspc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]" < 1245021437 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1245021456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1245021461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a legit use for "f (a, b, c)" style < 1245021843 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly? < 1245021896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yep < 1245021909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: when all functions take one argument, and the convention is tuple for multiple arguments < 1245021914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's logical < 1245021961 0 :Kolonai!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Aneu < 1245022033 0 :Aneu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Haskell, at least, f(a, b, c) is perfectly valid notation for that. < 1245022067 0 :Aneu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think ordinary function notation usually allows saying f (a, b, c). < 1245022094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aneu: Of course, it can be valid. < 1245022108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if "f x" is the function call syntax, "f (a, b, c)" is a logical convention for multiple arguments. < 1245022113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other languages, however, this convention is retarded. < 1245022239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION invents a nice new language. < 1245022242 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say haskell completely lacks multiple-argument functions, but you can simulate them by either sticking stuff in a tuple or by currying < 1245022252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Haskell without some awkward syntax and with some nice stuff. < 1245022255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yah < 1245022261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if the convention was to use tuples, < 1245022268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "f x" was still how one argument calls were accepted, < 1245022272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"f (a, b, c)" makes sense < 1245022809 0 :akiross!n=akiross@host-62-10-6-86.cust-adsl.tiscali.it JOIN :#esoteric