< 1245196944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most effective debugging tool is still careful thought, coupled with < 1245196944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :judiciously placed print statements. < 1245196945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Brian W. Kernighan, in the paper Unix for Beginners (1979) < 1245196947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AnMaster, at this point, has a heart attack.) < 1245196980 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't it be cool if that wasn't /still/ true :P < 1245197006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I'm perfectly happy with it. < 1245197041 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm with GregorR < 1245197051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's your mom. < 1245197055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! Booyah1 < 1245197059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booyah1. < 1245197075 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, a your-mom-by-proxy :P < 1245197564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adewby do < 1245197700 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245197716 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-111-15.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245197771 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, protruding as they were, kept snagging on the foliage. < 1245197797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, I mean tears, dripped down his face, as he wallowed in self-pity and killed himself. < 1245197939 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1245197975 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I mean tears" X-D < 1245198026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, attached to the slave he owns, twitched. "Master, I think there's a faggot around!" Then, a hamburger enveloped the world. < 1245198087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, because when his ears slow their pace, you know it's for a reason. < 1245198148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the most reliable instrument he knows, beeped. Clearly his pacemaker was running too fast. < 1245198168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Please do conform that these are good. < 1245198181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm. < 1245198246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, confused. Why, he wondered, did I turn into my ears? < 1245198371 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haaaaahahaha < 1245198377 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1245198474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, and suddenly his pace became erratic. < 1245198478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("To delay; retard.") < 1245198521 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, still in the process of being reattached, began to tear. "Hey," his surgeon yelled, "I'm trying to reattach your ears here! Stop it!" < 1245198545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, his grammar leading nowhere. < 1245198675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, eyes and nose all sensed great danger nearby < 1245198684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone used the comma that way yet? < 1245198692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed (his pace slightly) as (his ears, in a vat of chocolate); only his less slightly paces can go faster. < 1245198700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, in a vat of chocolate; only his less slightly paces can go faster. < 1245198710 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, nose, mouth, and eyes spontaneously exploded." < 1245198725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He accidentally the verb. < 1245198727 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know what class of grammars you get when you add synthesizable attributes to regular expressions? < 1245198729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ern. < 1245198734 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He accidentally the word. < 1245198735 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, which are more selective about the direction the sound comes from than the average pair of ears, picked some conversation through a window of the building he was passing. < 1245198740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, is this dangerous? < 1245198750 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You did that at the same time as somebody used it that way via AIM at me :P < 1245198755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes, but I'm not that person. < 1245198760 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is the original and therefore boring. < 1245198760 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1245198797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, firmly attached to his head, heard a lot of people talking about his ears. < 1245198802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245198811 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumbo slowed his pace slightly as his ears, exhausted during the long flight, faltered in the wind. < 1245198830 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that with attributes you can get /some/ context sensitive behavior < 1245198833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, srae sih sa ylthgils ecap sih dewols divad. < 1245198867 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, which due to mutation were on his feet, began to hurt. < 1245198911 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me that a mutation like that would simply add more ears, not move the existing ears. < 1245198921 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumbo slowed his pace slightly as his ears, \m/ \m/ < 1245198921 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                             `\o/´ < 1245198921 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                               | < 1245198921 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                              /'¯|_) < 1245198921 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                            (_| < 1245198932 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also seems to me that ears generally don't burst forth from people's heads. < 1245198933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245198943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, overlords of all, had commanded him to. < 1245198964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, ? < 1245198983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Not even bursting forth fully grown, as per Greek mythology? < 1245198993 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1245199002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, where, except on the head, would ears be? < 1245199011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the grammar-distorting other-worldly things they are, caused a person to say "Hi, David Slowed! Your pace is as slightly as your ears." < 1245199020 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: GregorR mentioned ears being on feet. < 1245199028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geddit? < 1245199031 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, because it would have been impossible for him to slow his pace more than his ears'. < 1245199032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Slowed, his pace slightly as his ears,. < 1245199048 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap, everything from " He accidentally the verb." to " D:" hit me at once. < 1245199061 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I haven't received anything since then, which I suspect have been sent. < 1245199064 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is with my lag. < 1245199070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Aww, you're missing my hilarious one. < 1245199086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Holy *CRAP*, man. You have more lag than I. And my packets GO TO SPACE AND BACK. < 1245199101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from pikhq: 3.27 second(s) < 1245199112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't gotten a reply from GregorR yet < 1245199112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1245199118 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1245199123 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hah, nice'n. < 1245199125 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how my packets get from here to normish.org and back within a few milliseconds. < 1245199137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: Hah, nice'n. <-- which one? < 1245199158 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, about 38 milliseconds. < 1245199250 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lawl < 1245199267 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, how lagged am I ... < 1245199268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: APPRECIATE MY MOST RECENT ONE :< < 1245199300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no ping reply from GregorR < 1245199351 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Crap, man. < 1245199372 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, \ David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, \ Oh David slowed his pace, \ yes David slowed his pace, \ Oh David slowed his pace slightly as his ears! < 1245199389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:36 ehird: David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the grammar-distorting other-worldly things they are, caused a person to say "Hi, David Slowed! Your pace is as slightly as your ears." 00:37 ehird: Geddit? 00:37 ehird: David Slowed, his pace slightly as his ears,. < 1245199391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APPRECIATE GregorR >:| < 1245199396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent ages on that. < 1245199501 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protip: David looks something like this: http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1800/fc01738.png < 1245199517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. Also, <3 Freefall. < 1245199525 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But male, differently colored, a lot younger, and so on. < 1245199560 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, nobody has yet interpreted "David slowed his pace slightly as his ears," as referring to sex. < 1245199573 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from ehird: ? second(s) < 1245199574 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from AnMaster: ? second(s) < 1245199583 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1245199583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, as he is of a rather odd species, orgasmed. < 1245199586 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal is a furry < 1245199599 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245199604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We know. < 1245199606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Gracenotes < 1245199607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1245199609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR < 1245199610 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we? < 1245199616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245199618 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO GLAD TO BE BACK < 1245199621 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hopes he's less lagged this time. < 1245199635 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from ehird: ? second(s) < 1245199637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from AnMaster: ? second(s) < 1245199641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi GregorR < 1245199643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you read me < 1245199645 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that means :P < 1245199649 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :P < 1245199659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:43 ehird: 00:36 ehird: David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the grammar-distorting other-worldly things they are, caused a person to say "Hi, David Slowed! Your pace is as slightly as your ears." 00:37 ehird: Geddit? 00:37 ehird: David Slowed, his pace slightly as his ears,. < 1245199661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:43 ehird: APPRECIATE GregorR >:| < 1245199663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:43 ehird: I spent ages on that. < 1245199666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from GregorR: 356.19 second(s) < 1245199668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from GregorR: 199.91 second(s) < 1245199671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245199680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impressive < 1245199697 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That seems about right >:( < 1245199699 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's pretty good :P < 1245199704 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Wish 'slightly' was an adjective :P < 1245199706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Now read the tunes.org logs :P < 1245199710 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. < 1245199712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it so is. < 1245199722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: Hah, nice'n. <-- which one? < 1245199739 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, firmly attached to his head, heard a lot of people talking about his ears. < 1245199767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, ears, oh such wonderful ears, and he slowed his pace slightly. < 1245199795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245199823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that valid English? < 1245199829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1245199834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, parse? < 1245199841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: which are we talking about? < 1245199843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, the grammar-distorting other-worldly things they are, caused a person to say "Hi, David Slowed! Your pace is as slightly as your ears."]]? < 1245199864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The parse of the start there is [[David Slowed, his pace slightly as his ears,]] < 1245199899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, ears, oh such wonderful ears, and he slowed his pace slightly. < 1245199907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1245199915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What's unparsable about it? < 1245199942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "as his ears, ears, oh such wonderful ears, and he slowed his pace slightly" < 1245199948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... < 1245199963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I fail to see how it works. < 1245199966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply < 1245199968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You = barmy. < 1245199979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Me = Not native speaker. < 1245200020 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You = barmaid < 1245200021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, basically I don't see how the construct "foo y as x, x, oh x, and y" < 1245200023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is valid < 1245200023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I've spoken to tons of native speakers and none of them have such troubles with grammar as you do. Incidentally, hen I excused someone for being a non-native speaker, you said "I'M non-native and I understood it!" < 1245200083 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, but wait, gentle reader, because this story really began long before, on a dark, stormy night... < 1245200098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but the one "David Slowed, his pace slightly as his ears" seems to be "David Slowed" as a name. < 1245200104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes. < 1245200109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's saying that his pace was as slightly as his ears. < 1245200119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, made perfect sense < 1245200122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the other one < 1245200126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1245200129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn English, mmkay? < 1245200138 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about... < 1245200142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Learn Swedish and then we will talk < 1245200148 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, my god, why am I writing this junk, I repeat, his ears heard the dying cries of his family, seriously I shouldn't be writing novels, this is just a desperate attempt. < 1245200158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm not the one in a Swedish-speaking channel, asking what constructs mean every 5 seconds. < 1245200160 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"David slowed his pace as slightly as his ears, ears, oh such wonderful ears, and he slowed his pace slightly." < 1245200171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, :D < 1245200226 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeah, slightly is not an adjective :P < 1245200234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Sure it is. < 1245200249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not every 5 seconds. Try to exaggerate less often. It doesn't fit you. < 1245200258 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not an adjective just because you decree that it is :P < 1245200264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Funny, that; I don't give a shit. < 1245200268 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'slight' is an adjective < 1245200277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you're a poop. < 1245200286 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, "slightly" is not an adjective. < 1245200313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is "slightly"? Adverb? < 1245200317 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245200318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245200356 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245200369 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, tingling slightly due to the arrow through his head, went numb. < 1245200410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can "ears" be construed as a verb? < 1245200428 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eared.. eard... heard < 1245200434 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old ears the boat. < 1245200457 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, load as they were, went unheeded. "Ear, ear!", he tried again. < 1245200459 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking "old" cannot be used as a singular noun. < 1245200461 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*loud < 1245200467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: So "his ears" would be David earing the boat, instead of the old. < 1245200482 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The synaesthetic ears the boat. < 1245200484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, uh, what was it, oh yeah, the boat. < 1245200487 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, bottled in formaldehyde, caught his eye. "Oh," he thought, "to be alive again." < 1245200495 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: win < 1245200495 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, "synaesthetic" is both a singular noun and an adjective. < 1245200539 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, on a boat, were on a boat. < 1245200554 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: write something that puts everything said beginning with "David slowed his pace slightly as his ears," on a web site that lets people vote them up and down. < 1245200564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, jealous as they were of his nautical-themed pashmina afghan, jumped off the boat. < 1245200576 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: I actually considered that, then decided it was too stupid :P < 1245200590 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1245200614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This coming from a man that lets you vote on his hat. < 1245200645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR should give me tacit endorsement for, I think, referencing the same thing as him. < 1245200695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, :D < 1245200748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, there is still an x for one hat? < 1245200791 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Lost :( < 1245200800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ouch, what one was it? < 1245200808 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glengarry < 1245200821 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, powerless to resist the inexorable pull of the black hole, disappeared beyond the event horizon with a brilliant flash of light. < 1245200822 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just at home somewhere, probably not lost permanently. < 1245200828 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm totally going to send GregorR a top hat with a hatband of color 7a9ec0. < 1245200828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahah < 1245200840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyttle lytton + david's ears. < 1245200845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINE THEM NOW. < 1245200850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glengarry? < 1245200875 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1245200907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, comparing it seems to be http://codu.org/hats/HighlandsTravellingHat-med.jpg ? < 1245200908 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the opening like "David slowed his pace slightly as his ears," reminded me of the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest the moment I saw it. < 1245200942 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's submit the best of these to the BLFC, shall we? < 1245200949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, washed away in the sea as they were, bobbed along. He was unaware of this event. < 1245200954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: No, the lyttle one. < 1245200956 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yeah, suffice to say I didn't know the proper name at the time :P < 1245200958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adamcadre.ac/lyttle.html < 1245200963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, link on http://codu.org/pvcinstruments/ is broken < 1245201008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my most recent one :( < 1245201022 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either, I guess. < 1245201022 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Bleh, stupid pages disappearing :( < 1245201029 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on, I'm actually making this stupid site :P < 1245201033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1245201054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enters http://codu.org in klinkstatus < 1245201080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Status of my klinks. < 1245201112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, kno, kit kis kjust kkde kway kof kdoing kit < 1245201122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're spidering all of GregorR's site? < 1245201125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of dicky. < 1245201133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no, just one step recursive < 1245201171 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Google spiders my site all the time :P < 1245201174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so first one, and any external links from them < 1245201189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway klinkstatus locked up (#!" < 1245201193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait no < 1245201223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, broken internal links at least < 1245201265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for it to finish < 1245201308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, something linked to http://codu.org/masterpiecemachine/lib/midi.php < 1245201313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is "forbidden" < 1245201336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1245201338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sitemap < 1245201364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, http://codu.org/sitemap/ links to inaccessible files < 1245201370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it says < 1245201373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warning: Missing argument 2 for getTitle(), called in /var/www/sitemap/gwsitemap.php on line 110 and defined in /var/www/sitemap/gwsitemap.php on line 180" < 1245201383 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I probably need to get rid of that. < 1245201405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, why? :( < 1245201412 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's useless. < 1245201424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, not at all, useful to find secret files < 1245201455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the very least, I need a much better piece of software for it. < 1245201516 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1245201569 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I should just take bash.org's software :P < 1245201586 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245201613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, image links broken on http://codu.org/pvcinstruments/baritonetrombute.php < 1245201632 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaaaaaa? D-8 < 1245201645 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, shoot, they are :( < 1245201658 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I know why, I got rid of that album software :P < 1245201680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, oh? < 1245201688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, just add the images back < 1245201712 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing other shtuff right now :P < 1245201723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:19 GregorR: I think I should just take bash.org's software :P < 1245201729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf has bash got to do with that :P < 1245201767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, http://codu.org/projects/trac/oblisk/. Logo area links to http://oblisk.codu.org/projects/trac/oblisk/ which is 404 < 1245201837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, http://codu.org/projects/trac/directnet/ links to http://software.senko.net/projects/cyfer/ Invalid domains < 1245201841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :domain* < 1245201865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to http://swox.com/gmp/ which is 404 < 1245201889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a seriously old URL for libgmp < 1245201904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oblisk is seriously old. < 1245201909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1245201912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was directnet < 1245201914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1245201915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read < 1245201919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is directnet < 1245201922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245201950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still it takes like 3 clicks and waiting 5 minutes to get the results from a link checker app < 1245201992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1245202016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not you < 1245202173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you know stuff about ipv6? iirc you do. < 1245202207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1245202284 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1245202616 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245202646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things!!!! < 1245202652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things, robots;; action, things!!! < 1245202817 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF SQL < 1245202840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Step 1 - stop using SQL. Step 2 - stop using PHP. Step 3 - nirvana. < 1245202860 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What database language do you suggest X_X < 1245202876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: What part of this toy you're creating involves relational things? < 1245202891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Indeed, isn't an entry just (text,points)? < 1245202897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just want to store objects. Do that. < 1245202900 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keeping track of the votes such that an IP can't vote more than once. < 1245202910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That is not relational. < 1245202923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ehird, of course, suggests using CSV. He also suggests using Java. < 1245202936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Fuck off, that's a wild, bullshit assumption. < 1245202951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? That's his recommendation! < 1245202951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245203194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: link to your rendered toccata? < 1245203202 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1245203211 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OUT by my MIDI you mean? < 1245203211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onerous < 1245203217 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/music/auto/Onerously%20Uptight%20Toccata.ogg < 1245203218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1245203588 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1245203627 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1245203886 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245204213 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-111-15.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245204930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1245205027 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/davidslowed/ < 1245205131 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Takes me too long to write web sites I guess :P < 1245205176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vomits at Win32 some more. < 1245205193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their replacement for int argc, char **argv is LPCSTR lpCmdLine. < 1245205203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Which is of type const char long**. < 1245205217 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it would be good if this told you when it added one :P < 1245206428 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, screwed it up a bit ;P < 1245207073 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how when I finally get it together, nobody cares any more :P < 1245207317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would we care? < 1245207326 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1245207338 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The intarwebs made me do it! < 1245208162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, forcing GregorR to do it. < 1245208731 0 :Tidus34!n=Tidus33@c210-49-69-63.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1245209048 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, there's a whole set of these. < 1245209053 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely: < 1245209062 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arthur was about to enter the bedroom when he noticed something strange. < 1245209062 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, < 1245209062 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a simple operation: David would open the door quietly, sneak < 1245209062 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you don't know what to say, say it. If you do know what to say, don't." < 1245209062 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chris to Arthur at his computer: I suppose you're too busy to help load the car? < 1245209066 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arthur: Does this David have parents? < 1245209068 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arthur said, "You know, there's this problem I've been trying to solve for quite a while. Maybe you could help me with it." < 1245209071 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David tried to rest his elbow on the piano, but was surprised < 1245209178 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this from? < 1245209375 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matter, my friend. < 1245209536 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A way a lone a last a loved a long the David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, < 1245209548 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're from the files in http://normish.org/ihope/dodadodidi/. < 1245209845 0 :Tidus35!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245209846 0 :Tidus34!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Tidus35 < 1245210003 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1245210013 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over toasted my tunnbröd < 1245210015 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1245210106 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/davidslowed/?id=24 < 1245210182 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS AM NONSENSE < 1245210756 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the one in the topic on that side? < 1245210761 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1245210814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/davidslowed/?id=1 < 1245211851 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(11:10:32 PM) <>: This is terrible! I can't find any Ahmadinejad porn. < 1245212197 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245216745 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Floor_Feline < 1245218431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Poor rule 34. < 1245218764 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245218774 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245218798 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now present to you, "Gregor is a moron", a play in four acts. < 1245218800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : EgoBot: SPEAK TO ME < 1245218802 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : !help < 1245218806 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : codu.org seems to have disapperated >_> < 1245218808 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ............ either that, or it's my Internet connection that's down >_> < 1245220472 0 :Tidus35!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it" < 1245221539 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"YES -> thor-ainor.it <- THIS IS *DELICIOUS*!" < 1245222538 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-11.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245223566 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1245223835 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-7-61.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245224340 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245225599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1245225600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1245228470 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1245228883 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-44-21.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1245228927 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1245229219 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1245229289 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m0ney. < 1245229293 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. m0ny** < 1245229294 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1245229297 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your name sucks. < 1245229299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p0wer. < 1245229304 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1245229836 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-033-026.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245230361 0 :tetha!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245230484 0 :tetha!n=hk@pD9EE7A9C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245230680 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1245231333 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-14-154.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1245232807 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1245232858 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1245233761 0 :immibis!n=user@203-97-111-43.cable.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245233793 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if myndzi has fixed the bug yet that is triggered like this: immibisf < 1245233805 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no response? < 1245233873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if myndzi is ignoring immibis  < 1245233873 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if oerjan is ignoring immibis < 1245233907 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if myndzi is ignoring him < 1245233907 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if immibis is ignoring him < 1245233910 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1245233918 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzi immibis immibisf < 1245233919 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * mymyndziyndzmyndzimmibimyndzimmibisf < 1245233932 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzi immibisf immibis immibis immibis immibisf < 1245233933 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * immibis myndzimmibimyndzimmibimyndzimmibimyndzimmibisf < 1245233933 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks myndzi requires more than just oerjanf < 1245233934 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thmyndziyndzmyndzierjanf < 1245233937 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gjjsdjhfgjhdfg D: < 1245233943 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks myndzi requires more than just oerjanfg < 1245233943 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thmyndziyndzmyndzierjanfg < 1245233948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks myndzi requires more than just oerjanfgh < 1245233959 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flood protection < 1245233963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks myndzi requires more than just oerjanfghi < 1245233965 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzif < 1245233969 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possuble < 1245233972 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzif myndzi < 1245233972 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndziyndzif immibis < 1245233980 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzifimmibisf < 1245233992 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzifimmibisf myndzi immibis < 1245233993 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * mymyndziyndzifimmibisf immibis myndzi < 1245234008 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :d < 1245234009 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, what are you doing? < 1245234010 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[11:19] * myndzi * mymyndziyndzifimmibisf immibis myndzi < 1245234017 0 :d!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :fgh1 < 1245234046 0 :fgh1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION * myndzi * fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f fgh1f < 1245234046 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks immibis * myndzmyndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1myndziyndzmyndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f myndzigh1f < 1245234078 0 :fgh1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if it would be possible to get myndzi auto-kicked for flooding like that < 1245234080 0 :fgh1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION won't try it < 1245234083 0 :fgh1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis < 1245234418 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245234458 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245234637 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1245235732 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245235748 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1245235904 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245236507 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=emacs@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245236746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245236765 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245239124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245240441 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245241488 0 :rodrigo!n=rodrigo@193.144.79.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245242075 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1245243665 0 :rodrigo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"WeeChat 0.2.6.3" < 1245244343 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1245247825 0 :comex!i=comex@ool-457c3cbb.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245247834 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1245247847 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I had to try < 1245247860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we've scared myndzi off < 1245248154 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245250314 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-111-15.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245250461 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1245250461 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :       | < 1245250461 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :      /'\ < 1245250470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1245250473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1245250473 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1245250473 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : >\ < 1245250487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was wondering for a moment if Myndzi had just set the script not to respond to nomic players :) < 1245250525 0 :ktne!i=ktne@unaffiliated/ktne JOIN :#esoteric < 1245250540 0 :ktne!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1245250576 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that myndzi's bot assumes mIRC-style, so if your nick is shorter than six characters, and you put it at the beginning of the line, it can't fit its response in. < 1245250590 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it disregards it. < 1245251095 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1245251095 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          | < 1245251095 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :         /´\ < 1245251119 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ < 1245251119 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1245251119 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  /´\  >\  >\ /|  /<  /<  /<   |\  |\ < 1245251151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, what's with the topic? < 1245251158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that isn't ehird's work, I'd be surprised < 1245251163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not completely surprised < 1245251222 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1245251231 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already my fine work is being stolen in ehird's name. < 1245251249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was yours? < 1245251269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did you write it by hand, or by bot? < 1245251295 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started with Warrigal posting "David slowed his pace slightly as his ears,", or more accurately catting it out of some file < 1245251304 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245251308 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then he put that in the topic (including comma) < 1245251312 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I merely .... finished it. < 1245251314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245251323 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ultimate result is http://codu.org/davidslowed/ < 1245251538 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/davidslowed/?id=24 // probably my favorite < 1245252615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245254101 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But on account of its obvious arbitrariness, it is probably without any real significance." < 1245254119 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fact : people where saying Iota was totally not awesome for almost a hundred years < 1245254709 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The expression thus assumes the form FU" < 1245254710 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245255059 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1245255082 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, with combinators S, K and Z, you can do it without parentheses. < 1245255185 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By means of C, Z, and S, therefore, every formula of logic can be written without parentheses as a simple sequence of these signs and can therefore be characterized completely by a number written to the base 3." < 1245255941 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1245256264 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And here it is : http://verrahrubicon.free.fr/Combinator.pdf < 1245256269 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you see typos tell me :3 < 1245256301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what is this "mirc style" you mentioned? < 1245256372 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-179-021.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1245256375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The ultimate result is http://codu.org/davidslowed/ <-- didn't you say doing that was too silly? < 1245256405 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too silly is nothing! :P < 1245256418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, voting is broken? < 1245256423 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't be >_> < 1245256425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just jumps to the bottom of the page < 1245256429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange < 1245256443 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't. < 1245256448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, I'm using w3m btw. < 1245256456 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It opens a popup. < 1245256459 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So TOOO BAD < 1245256475 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should probably use the bash.org style, but this was quicker and easier) < 1245256531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, did you import the ones from the channel? < 1245256539 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245256590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, why does it need to open a popup at all? < 1245256609 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't want to navigate away from the site as-is, and I reaaaaaaaaally didn't want to get into XHR sh** < 1245256632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XHR? < 1245256637 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA "AJAX" < 1245256641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245256650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, ajax would be even worse :P < 1245256667 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't want to navigate away from the page every time you vote. < 1245256742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, so you prefer to open one new tab for each click? < 1245256759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that is what it does when I use firefox < 1245256780 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not "prefer", it's "have no other alternative" < 1245256806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (I should probably use the bash.org style, but this was quicker and easier) <-- you admitted there *was* an alternative above. < 1245256822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "mirc style" is probably the "messages aligned at the start of nicknames", in contrast to "aligned so that last letters of the nicknames (or first letters of the messages) align up". < 1245256834 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refer to alternatives that I am not too lazy to implement. < 1245256835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, did http://codu.org/davidslowed/?id=31 ever work? < 1245256843 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No < 1245256849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1245256874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, how are they stored on the server? PostgreSQL? SQLite? Plain text file? < 1245256884 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite < 1245256888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245256897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L odd choice for server side < 1245256910 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no SQL server running on codu. It's nice. < 1245256940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, yes, but iirc sqlite doesn't handle concurrent accesses too well? < 1245256957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you run it as a single fcgi process or similar? < 1245256974 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLite3, as far as I know, has no such problems. < 1245256987 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although SQLite2 certainly did. < 1245256997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1245257076 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it handles concurrency *that* well in sqlite3 either in the sense that there's quite a lot of locking going on, but certainly it handles it right in the sense that it won't break. < 1245257084 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah. < 1245257093 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever an insert is performed, the DB is locked. < 1245257105 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't go inserting and then not closing your DB for ten minutes. < 1245257119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that was what I meant yes < 1245257149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, um. couldn't you just insert then commit the transaction? < 1245257164 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that works too, but that involves typing "BEGIN TRANSACTION; ... COMMIT;" :P < 1245257166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it only needs to be locked while the transaction is actually being commited < 1245257218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, doesn't sqlite3 default to implicit transaction around every SQL command if there isn't an explicit one, like that you typed < 1245257220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1245257302 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /believe/ (this is beyond what I actually know for sure) that is considers your entire /connection/ to the database to be a transaction. < 1245257317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245257323 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that makes no sense, it can't roll that back :P < 1245257345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, that won't work, Since you can't do VACUUM in a transaction. yet you can do that during the connection < 1245257356 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, Idonno < 1245257370 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is it works well enough for me, and all these concerns are silly. < 1245257405 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By default, SQLite version 3 operates in autocommit mode. In autocommit mode, all changes to the database are committed as soon as all operations associated with the current database connection complete." and then it continues with how BEGIN TRANSACTION makes it go out of autocommit mode. < 1245257438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite> VACUUM; < 1245257438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite> BEGIN TRANSACTION; VACUUM; COMMIT; < 1245257438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL error: cannot VACUUM from within a transaction < 1245257475 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot VACUUM a database this DIRTY. What have you been DOING here, herding CATTLE? < 1245257497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you don't know, VACUUM is that "reclaim space from DELETEs and similar" command. < 1245257498 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCRUB; < 1245257512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like OPTIMIZE in MySQL for example < 1245257516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it OPTIMISE < 1245257582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, check the sqlite files in your firefox profile directory, they can grow pretty large, VACUUM once / month or so tends to help. Both for file size and to make firefox slightly less sluggish < 1245257609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not VACUUM them while firefox is running however < 1245257611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very important < 1245257667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the urlclassifier one it can usually save between 5 and 20 MB < 1245257857 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor@debian:~$ du -sh .mozilla/firefox/ < 1245257857 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :91M .mozilla/firefox/ < 1245257857 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor@debian:~$ for i in `find .mozilla/firefox/ -name '*.sqlite'`; do echo 'VACUUM;' | sqlite3 $i; done < 1245257857 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor@debian:~$ du -sh .mozilla/firefox/ < 1245257857 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :72M .mozilla/firefox/ < 1245257911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, why are you using stdin? < 1245257918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite $i VACUUM would work < 1245257920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245257923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite3 < 1245257925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1245257925 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't aware of that. < 1245257928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, ok :) < 1245257938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes it saved quite a bit. < 1245257993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, if you no longer use firefox 2.x then you can remove the urlclassifier2.sqlite, since firefox3 use urlclassifier3.sqlite only < 1245258013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably quite a few other files left over from older firefox versions too < 1245258043 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use iceweasel X-P < 1245258056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, isn't that just firefox rebranded by debian? < 1245258086 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes :P < 1245258093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, same basic thing then :P < 1245258128 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but /mine/ ... breaks web sites that are too specific about their user agent checks. < 1245258210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, trivial to fake user agent < 1245258249 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it's /just/ entertaining enough to find the sites that still perform user agent checks in 2009 that I don't want to. < 1245258255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your website break if you don't know the user agent you are doing something wrong < 1245258265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, example of such websites? < 1245258312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :error reason fail: < 1245258314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# update-mime-database /usr/local/share/mime/ < 1245258314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :update-mime-database: I don't have write permission on /usr/local/share/mime. < 1245258314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try rerunning me as root. < 1245258323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# whoami < 1245258323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :root < 1245258335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ls -l /usr/local/share/mime/ < 1245258335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /usr/local/share/mime/: No such file or directory < 1245258542 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been quite a while since I've found one < 1245258547 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh... I've been resisting updating my Linux kernel for too long now. but stuff always breaks. :/ < 1245258555 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotmail was one, but isn't anymore. < 1245258564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, why would things break? < 1245258568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are doing it right < 1245258570 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSA mainly < 1245258574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1245258577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1245258584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you using in-kernel drivers? < 1245258600 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sound packaging is so screwed up on my system, I don't even know < 1245258609 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an unresolvable dependency < 1245258615 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't install ffmpeg without uninstalling mplayer < 1245258620 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arghh. < 1245258622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, *blink* < 1245258635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, just upgrade mplayer to last version < 1245258643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what shitty distro Floor_Feline is using < 1245258660 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, I think I used a separate repository to get mplayer compiled in with a certain option < 1245258679 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to some other software I needed.. at the time < 1245258684 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget what it even was < 1245258691 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now there are conflicts. maybe I should just remove the repository >_> < 1245258709 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what's causing it. should look into it. < 1245258729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what distro this is, but "repository" limits it to not include gentoo at least < 1245258739 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu < 1245258746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. No idea about ubuntu < 1245258814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've sworn that Apt was better than that. < 1245258849 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's different versions of a library that happens to be in the other repository I mentioned, based on some error messages I got yesterday. But I'll have to check it out... < 1245258859 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I use Conkeror, which is a browser running on XULrunner. < 1245258867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, too, get to break user agent checks! < 1245258881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, then you haven't tried updating between two stable debian releases... < 1245258897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Actually, I did. < 1245258904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing broke the last two times I did it, at least. < 1245258913 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses ChatZilla, which is an IRC client running on XULRunner! >_> < 1245258924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, did it try to uninstall apt, aptitude, glibc, the kernel and several other system critical packages for you too? < 1245258932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1245258936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was recently < 1245258946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last time one went stable < 1245258949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hint: dist-upgrade < 1245258962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I followed debian's own upgrade guide < 1245258970 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and technically I used aptitude, not apt-get... < 1245258975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I tried both < 1245258979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both tried to do the same < 1245258988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You broke your system pretty well, then. < 1245259003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, was a clean install just 5 days before the next stable was released < 1245259008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I ditched debian since then < 1245259015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Fail? < 1245259026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes debian i < 1245259027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is* < 1245259065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I even tried asking for help on their irc channel. no one had any clue < 1245259147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Debian Fail. < 1245259151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 Gentoo. < 1245259191 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 homoerotic symbols such as the one at the left of this line. < 1245259203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err? < 1245259219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Heart, not microphallus. < 1245259222 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"<3" ... heart? Or testicles? < 1245259267 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If "microphallus" came to mind first instead of testicles, I would consult a urologist. Because there's more wrong with that than the size. < 1245259285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1245259299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, like the fact it is ascii < 1245259310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty wrong < 1245259325 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1245259590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this license http://pastebin.ca/1463601 ? It isn't BSD or GPL, and I don't really know much about other ones. < 1245259718 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's MIT < 1245259729 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's roughly equivalent to BSD> < 1245259731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1245259739 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my favorite license :) < 1245259743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BSD>? Is this homoerotic too? < 1245259753 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a typo X-P < 1245259756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1245259757 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not everything I say is homoerotic. < 1245259760 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say homoerotic symbols? < 1245259769 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Firefox draft logo? http://mozillalinks.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/shiretokofirefoxicon-i2_large.png < 1245259773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, um, yes. Use your scrollback < 1245259774 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8=I don't know what you're talking about=D < 1245259775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see who < 1245259789 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes the current version >_> < 1245259794 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : I know < 1245259800 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline: I see no appreciable difference. < 1245259800 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was rhetorical < 1245259807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, more like "Daft rendering" < 1245259808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245259814 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. that's how it is with logo redesigns < 1245259833 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. Firefox: the furry browser of choice < 1245259840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, but seriously, I don't see the difference? < 1245259861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, looks exactly the same to me < 1245259887 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly the tail is more vibrant < 1245259897 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fox's coloring is more, uh, realistic < 1245259908 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :via http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/05/final-firefox-35-update-a-new-logo/ < 1245259911 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if it looks more like a fox :P < 1245259912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, hm. Hard to compare to a 32x32 icon in my taskbar < 1245259918 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as that the firefox is neither on fire nor a fox. < 1245259919 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :larger images < 1245259933 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only problem is that it doesn't look so good at a distance < 1245259941 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it has holes in its tail < 1245259959 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I'd favor the current one; it's more simple. Leave the tail alone :) < 1245259974 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*simpler < 1245259983 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost abstract. I'd say. < 1245259992 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Panda // I'm pretty sure the logo used to actually look like a Firefox. < 1245259999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, is the "current version" the one in 3.0? < 1245260019 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1245260049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously can't tell the difference when reduced to 32x32 (size of icons in kicker) or 16x16 (size in menu bar and in task bar) < 1245260060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't usually see that logo any larger < 1245260060 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Iceweasel-icon.svg // I prefer this logo < 1245260070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when will thunderbird 3.x be released < 1245260107 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg red panda :3 :3 :3 :3 :3 < 1245260119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline, where? < 1245260122 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :red panda hugs are in short supply! < 1245260130 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get them while you can! < 1245260134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1245260138 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hug them to death! < 1245260141 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S IRONY < 1245260179 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iceweasel icon is terrifying < 1245260196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: Try GNU Iceweasel. ;) < 1245260201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Floor_Feline I prefer this logo: http://omploader.org/vMXVpYg < 1245260202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245260211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that one. Not the new one. < 1245260215 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They renamed it. < 1245260256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1245260282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Panda // I'm pretty sure the logo used to actually look like a Firefox. <-- err? there is no logo there? < 1245260294 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's a Firefox. < 1245260304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1245260306 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm pretty sure the Firefox logo used to look somewhat like an actual Firefox. < 1245260311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245260315 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But they've changed it to look like a fox. < 1245260315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, when was that? < 1245260320 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First few versions. < 1245260327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't use firefox between phoenix and firefox 1.0 < 1245260335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and phoenix definitely didn't have such a logo < 1245260351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, remember phoenix? :D < 1245260365 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vaguely :P < 1245260407 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1245260421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no one is going to comment on " GregorR, Floor_Feline I prefer this logo: http://omploader.org/vMXVpYg" ? < 1245260421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1245260471 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1245260473 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Konqueror sucks :P < 1245260481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that is the kdeclassic theme! < 1245260489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1245260499 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I saw that logo a lot back in the day. < 1245260501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is considered classic even during KDE 3 < 1245260509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still on KDE 3 < 1245260557 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still maintain that KDE3 is better than KDE4. < 1245260568 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I use KDE4 because KDE3 is clearly not going to be maintained any more. < 1245260604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jun 17 17:01:21 tux [181932.512554] SCTP: Hash tables configured (established 65536 bind 65536) <-- wtf? This is wtf on several levels. 1) Why was SCTP enabled when I did only chat on irc. 2) What sort of app would actually enable SCTP... It is a great protocol... but nothing uses it. < 1245260627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however the kernel module for it is loaded < 1245260661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, well I'm going to change to another DE/WM I think < 1245260673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably awesomewm or xmonad < 1245260681 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: iwc :D < 1245260691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, read it hours ago < 1245260692 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats AnMaster -----### < 1245260701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1245260715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i knew you were going to say that, and it's NOT THE POINT < 1245260729 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck xmonad < 1245260746 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, that's hot. < 1245260747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: in a referentially transparent way, i hope < 1245260752 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex must reaaaally like xmonad. < 1245260873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, from wikipedia "The animals most likely to drop from the sky in a rainfall are fish and frogs, with birds coming third." < 1245260874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... < 1245260881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"birds coming third"? < 1245260899 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....................? < 1245260907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_animals < 1245260908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if it's _really_ heavy rainfall, they could be knocked out? :D < 1245260957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what about "hagel"? Don't know English word. Somewhat like snow, but harder and as small balls of ice < 1245260970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few mm across < 1245260997 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hail < 1245261030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall reading about 10cm instances < 1245261052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not usually appreciated, those :D < 1245261092 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We describe large hail in sports terms :P < 1245261096 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Golf-ball sized hail" < 1245261099 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Baseball sized hail" < 1245261134 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't know if that's "we" English speakers or "we" Americans) < 1245261323 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :baseball sized hail is probable "we" Texans < 1245261327 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ly < 1245261339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1245261356 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was reading that as "basketball" < 1245261403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i vaguely recall reading about 10cm instances < 1245261414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, I have seen hail over 1 cm across < 1245261422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 10, more like 1.5 cm < 1245261509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't baseball like american cricket? I mean in terms of non-natives having no clue what the hell the game is about < 1245261531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd and complex rules and such < 1245261615 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baseball is really quite simple. < 1245261630 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas Cricket is, to my knowledge, the single most complex widely-played sport in existence. < 1245261632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to 15 cm, says wikipedia < 1245261758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But now we see that even the oddest cases have a rational explanation, involving nothing more unusual than Martians. < 1245261768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1245261856 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1245261864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, by father said he once saw 14 cm ones when he was about 17 years old. < 1245261889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was mentioned in the local paper (I have seen that old article about it) < 1245261903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since I didn't believe him I went and checked in the archive at the library) < 1245262097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: < 1245262100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David slowed his pace slightly as his ears, confused. Why, he wondered, didI turn into my ears? < 1245262101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a space plz < 1245262133 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sorry, fekked it up on paste >_> < 1245262155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: also you're missing my one where David Slowed is a name <_< < 1245262191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: also there should be an order by top/bottom, and a show all (instead of just "all random") < 1245262193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end complaints < 1245262194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245262216 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAGE TOO STUPID TO FIX < 1245262229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom is stupid < 1245262255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:55:01 "But on account of its obvious arbitrariness, it is probably without any real significance." < 1245262256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:55:19 Fact : people where saying Iota was totally not awesome for almost a hundred years < 1245262259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I can imagine that < 1245262261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iota is pretty lame < 1245262274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:11:22 Apparently, with combinators S, K and Z, you can do it without parentheses. < 1245262274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:13:05 "By means of C, Z, and S, therefore, every formula of logic can be written without parentheses as a simple sequence of these signs and can therefore be characterized completely by a number written to the base 3." < 1245262278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now combine them into one < 1245262286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'll have an unary language that isn't a gödel encoding < 1245262319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:39:02 GregorR-L, so you prefer to open one new tab for each click? < 1245262319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:39:19 because that is what it does when I use firefox < 1245262326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the worst way to browse the web i can possibly imagine < 1245262348 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've removed all context, that's not "browsing the web" :P < 1245262356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1245262357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245262358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread < 1245262360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:42:54 SQLite3, as far as I know, has no such problems. < 1245262362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1245262367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one process/thread can write to an sqlite database at once < 1245262372 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've removed the entire future of that conversation. < 1245262374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :end of, and it will always be this way < 1245262380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, exactly < 1245262386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it was an honest mistake, stfu < 1245262394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why it is best to ignore ehird while he is log reading < 1245262400 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Agreed < 1245262625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:09:30 ALSA mainly < 1245262627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use pulseaudio :p < 1245262638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you fail < 1245262651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, pulseaudio uses alsa or oss for the actual output < 1245262656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything else does < 1245262657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm well aware < 1245262670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I would suggest using jack instead < 1245262682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh, why < 1245262683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses jack < 1245262696 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much work < 1245262712 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSA with dmix = stop using all these damn things on top of ALSA. < 1245262714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, pulseaudio > jack :) < 1245262734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err, yes they do. For example, there are many apps that require jack to handle audio. For example rosegarden needs it to handle audio tracks (otherwise it can only handle midi tracks) < 1245262736 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some stuff about audio in Linux, but the system is way too complicated to try to comprehend < 1245262749 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just leave it to the OS to hopefully not fuck things up beyond fixing < 1245262756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and pulseaudio doesn't try to keep the latency down to the same level as jack iirc < 1245262759 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: People use Rosegarden for non-MIDI tracks? < 1245262778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floor_Feline: Let's put it this way: we *finally* get something that works, and then people try breaking it again. < 1245262782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, yes, and it also requires it for effects track < 1245262790 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245262791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, external synth software < 1245262796 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSA and dmix? THAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! NEED MOAR BREAKING! < 1245262797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like VST plugins < 1245262803 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people? < 1245262810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um why dmix < 1245262813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh joy, you're one of the "ALSA is bunnies and unicorns that shit kitten rainbows" people < 1245262823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get a good sound card with a proper hardware mixer < 1245262826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i'm glad there are people less deluded so that i don't have to futz with that shit < 1245262834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not commonly available. < 1245262844 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It works. < 1245262852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh? I think you could find them on newegg at least < 1245262865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: $0 vs >$0 < 1245262871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both working fine < 1245262875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gee, I wonder which I'll pick < 1245262880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh, 's hard one that. < 1245262893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that assumes the mobo has onboard sound < 1245262898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess most do nowdays < 1245262903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't buy a mobo without onboard sound afaik < 1245262917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, however there are cases where you need the >$0 one < 1245262923 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You probably can, but pay more for it :P < 1245262929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like if you are actually working professionally with sound. < 1245262940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I have seen server mobos without sound on them < 1245262945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's not strictly true, and certainly won't be in a few years. < 1245262952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which of the statements < 1245262960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:21 AnMaster: ehird, however there are cases where you need the >$0 one 18:22 AnMaster: ehird, like if you are actually working professionally with sound. < 1245262982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can work professionally with sound (but not all subfields, note) and not require a discreet soundcard. < 1245262988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a few years, i don't see soundcards being useful at all < 1245262998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can buy motherboards with Creative X-Fi sound cards onboard btw. < 1245263006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that's interesting < 1245263021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: creative x-fi drivers on linux suck btw :P < 1245263037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(none for years, then 64-bit only (!) binaries that suck, then 32-bit, now it's open sourced and still sucks) < 1245263057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1245263083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the last Creative card with good Linux was the Soundblaster Live! < 1245263093 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux support, rather. < 1245263094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the emu10k1 driver rocks though < 1245263098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yeah < 1245263101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3DNow! and SoundBlaster Live! < 1245263102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have such a card < 1245263104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey anyone have an audigy? >:) < 1245263106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3s the emu10k < 1245263111 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had plenty of hilarious experiences trying to use an audigy on freebsd < 1245263119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder when we'll see active sound card cooling < 1245263126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's inevitable < 1245263129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# lspci | grep -i live < 1245263129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07) < 1245263129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:0c.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 07) < 1245263132 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emu10k1 on bsd is black comedy in its purest form < 1245263139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andf < 1245263140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and* < 1245263143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : bsd is black comedy in its purest form < 1245263152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps CESSMASTER who the fuck are you :) < 1245263152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sound is actually better than the on board < 1245263158 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i am CESSMASTER < 1245263165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: k < 1245263167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with same mixer settings the sblive gives more bass. < 1245263203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of bass, I've forgotten what it sounds like to have a subwoofer < 1245263206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been years since I've heard one :P < 1245263210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm pretty sure it isn't just imagination, I connected the output to the line in jack and recorded both on board and sb live to verify. < 1245263214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245263233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:16:10 Oh, and technically I used aptitude, not apt-get... < 1245263236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to do that. < 1245263241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll spank you. < 1245263244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I do have one of those < 1245263251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:17:45 pikhq, I even tried asking for help on their irc channel. no one had any clue < 1245263251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:19:07 So... Debian Fail. < 1245263254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ that < 1245263263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s so not the reaction that would happen if someone had that problem with gentoo :) < 1245263268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and, I don't use it, since I have pro headphones that can actually represent the bass < 1245263284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:20:19 GregorR-L: Heart, not microphallus. < 1245263292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L's right, that's some fucked up micropenis. < 1245263310 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, that calls for a urology consult. < 1245263311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:28:49 It's roughly equivalent to BSD> < 1245263312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BSDM < 1245263336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:29:33 Slereah, um, yes. Use your scrollback < 1245263338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was making a joke. < 1245263344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he's gay, you see? < 1245263344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ... so was I < 1245263347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1245263358 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : because he's gay, you see? < 1245263358 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, ... so was I < 1245263365 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to be taken out of context for all eternity. < 1245263366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the manual documents the frequency range as 5 - 30,000 Hz btw. < 1245263373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. well, again i'm not the master of detecting jokes that (a) aren't funny (b) could easily be said by you and finally (c) that had no indicator of being jokes at all < 1245263376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird I know. < 1245263407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, no < 1245263422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mozillalinks.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/firefox-logos.png ← the current one beats the other two. redonkulous < 1245263429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: Always include relevant context < 1245263432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1245263435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent that line before < 1245263436 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No" is not an appropriate response to "Now to be taken out of context for all eternity." < 1245263437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it was: < 1245263440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : he was making a joke. < 1245263442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, ... so was I < 1245263443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : because he's gay, you see? < 1245263445 0 :tetha!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I guess the canonical answer to that is 'retune your irony detector, as it fails' :) < 1245263456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetha: that's not irony < 1245263459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, so it was just on your side < 1245263467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably ehird's side too < 1245263477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it quite a bit less funny < 1245263477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetha: and i'd love to see you detect irony with no contextual hints and no speech tones < 1245263480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no facial expressions < 1245263486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it being something that AnMaster could very well say seriously. < 1245263493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: you can't because you're not psychic. < 1245263497 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tunes.org says otherwise. < 1245263498 0 :tetha!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: my dice can approximate that < 1245263515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: give up, there is no escape < 1245263548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, sure. But you still forget lag. you need the timestamp there when copying it < 1245263558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder when i first used firefox < 1245263562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8? 0.9? < 1245263569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you never used phoenix? < 1245263575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started using ff 03-04. < 1245263591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Mozilla_Firefox_logo_history.png < 1245263598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god, the original logo is awful < 1245263604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :young people today. Have no idea what it was like back on phoenix, oh and Netscape 2! < 1245263609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Firefox_Delicacies.png ← I MISS THIS. < 1245263617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies are delicious delicacies. < 1245263633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in reflection of the growing acceptance and use of the Firefox browser in the Internet mainstream, the text was later changed. It was considered a bug and was "fixed" by Mike Connor to read "Cookies are pieces of information stored by web pages on your computer. They are used to remember login information and other data". The revision was regarded as more likely to be helpful for the less technically oriented computer users who were now using Fi < 1245263635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :refox—representing Mozilla's desire to appeal to mainstream users. < 1245263637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After this happened, the following remarks were made by Blake Ross over IRC to Mike Connor: < 1245263639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : congratulations mconnor < 1245263639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that screenshot phoenix or firefox? < 1245263641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you just destroyed a legend! < 1245263644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ff < 1245263645 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an extension to bring it back < 1245263646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245263650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which versiou < 1245263653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: don't care < 1245263653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :version* < 1245263657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anything before circa 2004 < 1245263661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1245263663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: it's unmaintained too < 1245263676 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there's a reason < 1245263678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I never used firefox between phoenix and firefox 1.0 < 1245263682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used opera then < 1245263699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and konq < 1245263713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/Phoenix0.1.PNG < 1245263716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ those buttons :) < 1245263724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ the odd toolbar organization < 1245263736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, netscape 6 or something like that had those icons too iirc? < 1245263750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1245263751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Continuing pressure from the Firebird community forced another change, and on February 9, 2004 the project was renamed Mozilla Firefox (or Firefox for short)." < 1245263755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i started using it a few months later < 1245263762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245263769 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think netscape ever looked like that < 1245263770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes firebird I remember too < 1245263779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i was just getting a date < 1245263781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it firebird -> phoenix -> firefox? < 1245263783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know i used it post-firefox only < 1245263784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1245263788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember < 1245263789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoenix → firebird → firefox < 1245263791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245263795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that change then < 1245263795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoenix is something or other, firebird is a database < 1245263807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245263808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because mozilla.org couldn't google < 1245263810 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phoenix Technologies < 1245263816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so were therefore helpless to avoid trodding on other people's shit < 1245263824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah, do you remember back before google < 1245263826 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(30-year old company or something like that) < 1245263833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember back before search engines < 1245263838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no. because I was 1 year old. < 1245263841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you used these "listings" < 1245263857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year before google i was busy being born. < 1245263861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, search engines did exist, but were pretty new < 1245263865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda, uh, takes up time < 1245263869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know? < 1245263872 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahoo directory < 1245263872 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember using AltaVista, Hotbot and Yahoo. < 1245263874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah it does. Like 9 months < 1245263875 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hotbot was the best. < 1245263880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started using it in time for the last version of Phoenix. < 1245263883 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was? I always preferred Yahoo < 1245263891 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And AltaVista sucked IMO < 1245263894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used AltaVista < 1245263901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not much < 1245263906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we had expensive dial-up < 1245263906 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hotbot was soooo much better than Yahoo :P < 1245263910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used google. I'm so lame. < 1245263919 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are so young < 1245263922 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still use Yahoo from time to time < 1245263923 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245263928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, huh? why? < 1245263929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ehhhhhh 14 isn't thaaaat young. < 1245263930 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occasionally gives me what Google can't < 1245263936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, relative. < 1245263943 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Get off my lawn < 1245263947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you only have 4-5 years on me. < 1245263968 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmao ehird is 14 < 1245263976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: actually 13. < 1245263981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? google was founded in 1996? < 1245263986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was 1997 or so < 1245263987 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw just like my little brother < 1245263988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rounding up, 14. < 1245263991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: jan 96 < 1245263995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: just like your mom. < 1245264004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right. your mom is 13. truly tragic time travel incident. < 1245264010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, really? Well it wasn't very popular until maybe 1998 or so < 1245264016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: incorporated 98 < 1245264019 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)" < 1245264021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: anyway did you just appear or something or did you have a previous nick before or sth. < 1245264024 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes and? < 1245264032 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i just appeared < 1245264038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was made public 1997, wasn't it < 1245264040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CESSMASTER: happens. < 1245264081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.microsoft.com/australia/ie8/competition/ < 1245264088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'll never find it using boring [Firefox|Safari|Lynx]. < 1245264106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr MS is offering $10k if you switch to IE8. < 1245264107 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=emacs@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245264110 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Shiretoko so it just says "that browser" < 1245264140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it says "that browser" here? < 1245264149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245264151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You use some communist browser that it doesn't know about. < 1245264153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if it checks user agent < 1245264157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit < 1245264158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, konq 3.x < 1245264177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it knows about lynx but not konq? < 1245264179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HUH* < 1245264187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't know about lynx, does it? < 1245264193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:41 ehird: But you'll never find it using boring [Firefox|Safari|Lynx]. < 1245264197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: he thinks I was serious. < 1245264198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/facepalm < 1245264204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as if it's an image or anything. < 1245264205 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't know about Opera either. < 1245264216 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I know. You did sound serious, FWIW. < 1245264225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah yes it is an image indeed < 1245264226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Bloody forners. < 1245264238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I thought you were serious ehird < 1245264281 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David \o/ slowed \o/ his \o/ pace \o/ a \o/ bit \o/ as \o/ his \o/ ears, \o/ < 1245264291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pleaseenjoy.com/project.php?cat=4&subcat=&pid=131&navpoint=0 < 1245264296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New York confirms it: a browser is a search engine. < 1245264367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245264383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does that need video or something? < 1245264390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1245264394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue *what* I'm missing. < 1245264403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1245264410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a grey area above "What is a Browser?" < 1245264412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :large < 1245264436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like there should be something there < 1245264437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245264445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing design < 1245264452 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: WTF < 1245264465 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The weirdest thing is that everyone AGREES to the wrong definition ... < 1245264483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, where!? < 1245264491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no image or video there < 1245264494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as I can see < 1245264510 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a video there. < 1245264526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245264533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, flash? something else? < 1245264545 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, just an embedded video. < 1245264578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245264615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, I never met people so stupid here in Sweden FYI < 1245264628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they probably exist < 1245264639 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You don't talk to random unexpecting people on the street. < 1245264652 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't meet people that stupid in the PL lab at Purdue either :P < 1245264656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, true. < 1245264670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know some computer illiterate people. < 1245264681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, when the people responsible for the Finnish "but think of the children!" Internet firewalling thing were asked "why is site X banned when it just has some links, but Google is not even though it also has as bad links" the response was that "well Google's a browser". < 1245264700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, *blink* < 1245264704 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Googlebot* may be, but... < 1245264733 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google is certainly a browser. It browses websites. < 1245264736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no that is a spider, not a browser < 1245264743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, spiders < 1245264746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the technical term < 1245264747 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget is a browser!!1! < 1245264755 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it browses?? browses!! < 1245264756 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, a spider is an animal with eight legs and an exoskeleton. < 1245264757 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiots. < 1245264758 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its a browser. < 1245264763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: A very crappy one. ^_^ < 1245264764 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's not a website, it's a browser." then someone asks what's the difference, and the answer to *that* is something completely unrelated. < 1245264769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, it doesn't "browse" < 1245264771 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :browses \o/ < 1245264771 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :         | < 1245264771 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :        /| < 1245264814 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear in mind that these are the same people who, if you said that IE was a browser, would go "The Internet's a browser!?" < 1245264815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who owns that bot /o/ < 1245264815 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                     | < 1245264815 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                     >\ < 1245264824 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing it's myndzi. < 1245264828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1245264832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a person < 1245264834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a bot < 1245264838 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is a person. < 1245264838 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :person < 1245264841 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a script < 1245264851 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has led to some humourous things going on in Agora < 1245264868 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION myndzi's GregorR-L's myndzi myndzi. < 1245264868 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION GregorR-L's myndzi's GregorR-L GregorR-L. < 1245264876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should fix align. To not assume mirc style. I think mirc is rather uncommon in this channel < 1245264884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, what < 1245264895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shows up right for me. < 1245264898 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(irssi) < 1245264948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not using aligning so nicks are right aligned so all text start at the same column? < 1245264956 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irssi's default style is "mirc-like" (what a term), though some people use alternative themes. < 1245264973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for this, to back up the above claim about mirc being uncommon here I'm forced to do this: < 1245264988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION counts < 1245265001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi is by far most common here I see < 1245265003 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The commonality of mirc is not really strictly speaking relevant; it's not like it's the only client which does it that way. < 1245265021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few mirc but not many < 1245265027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 to be exact < 1245265047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also SimonRC, why are you using an old irssi? And a release candidate at that < 1245265056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's possible to right-align nicks in irssi? < 1245265061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no clue < 1245265069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh another person using ERC :D < 1245265072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-upyr[emacs]- VERSION ERC Version 5.2 - an IRC client for emacs (http://emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ERC (mailing list: erc-discuss@gnu.org)) < 1245265073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245265084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upyr[emacs], nice to meet you, whoever you are < 1245265103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes it is iirc < 1245265104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sure, though you'll have to set some sort of maximum length. < 1245265129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any response from Gregor yet? < 1245265130 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is this magic possible < 1245265135 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-32.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245265143 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You should make a bot with the VERSION stats < 1245265147 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only ever seen X-chat do that. < 1245265158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, some format string thingy in /set < 1245265160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1245265166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm < 1245265171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-GregorR-L- VERSION xchat 2.8.6 Linux 2.6.26-2-686 [i686/2.40GHz] < 1245265174 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Look at some theme from http://irssi.org/themes which does it. But the $-parameter expansion has a "use this width, right-align" syntax. < 1245265175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-GregorR- VERSION xchat 2.8.6 < 1245265179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why? < 1245265185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've looked, haven't seen any. :-) < 1245265195 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does xchat report the fekking speed of my processor :P < 1245265203 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those thumbnails aren't too easy to search through anyway. < 1245265204 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, I did one myself, but I think the computer it is on is currently offline. < 1245265244 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://irssi.org/themefiles/elf.png < 1245265247 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess $* expands it? < 1245265252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, no idea < 1245265265 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. is the default parameter-expansion thingy < 1245265269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Cool, cheers < 1245265293 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, you just need something in there for the width, and I think a - sign for right-alignation. Or something. My theme didn't really quite work right so I sort of abandoned it. < 1245265299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find irssi a very poor irc client < 1245265305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you stay on freenode only < 1245265310 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what would be ENDLESSLY HILARIOUS? If Google themed their site to look like hotbot on April 1. < 1245265315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: 32-bit lawl. < 1245265324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Latency. < 1245265325 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: VMWare < 1245265331 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a strange comment. I haven't had any problems with irssi and multiple networks. < 1245265341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: ... Yes. VMware works just fine on 64-bit. < 1245265350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seriously messes up on irc servers with more prefixes than +%@ < 1245265361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like those having ~& too < 1245265361 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not in my experience. < 1245265368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well in my experience it does. < 1245265375 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: VMWare on OS X, which is garbage-o and 32-bit even on a 64-bit proc. < 1245265376 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that Foonetic has those. < 1245265383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works just fine. < 1245265389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: *Ouch*. < 1245265389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245265394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, hotbot REALLY went downhill. < 1245265398 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is looking it up on archive.org < 1245265403 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, too esoteric. I'll have to look for docs or something some day. < 1245265409 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-118-2.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245265412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vmware server on 32-bit windows can run 64-bit guests, if the cpu is 64-bit < 1245265417 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More and more features crashed as nobody maintained it, until it was finally just an obscure error message. < 1245265418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember doing that < 1245265419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very odd < 1245265434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's pretty spiffy. < 1245265450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well useless to me. since I run 64-bit Linux as the host OS < 1245265461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, VMware Server 2.0 is crappy. < 1245265462 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/trends?q=hotbot%2C+altavista < 1245265463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/useless/pointless < 1245265467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, haven't tried it < 1245265470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor am I going to < 1245265479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The management interface is AJAX. < 1245265484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, heard of it < 1245265490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server for this is Java EE. < 1245265491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is basically useless to me < 1245265508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what part runs the actual emulation? Not the java bit surely? < 1245265525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some daemon. < 1245265538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1245265542 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The management interface is truly awful. < 1245265554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has malloced 600M. < 1245265560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, the old one wasn't very good either. But not that bad < 1245265571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old console was however usable < 1245265584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a very nice interface < 1245265589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you count Firefox (only works in Firefox), it has malloced ALL THE MEMORY. < 1245265610 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without having a virtual machine) < 1245265613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not even in IE? < 1245265618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1245265629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might also work in IE. Doubt it, though. < 1245265640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1245265658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, it has a Firefox extension to support displaying the VM's screen. < 1245265660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP's printer drivers used to contain a complete copy of Apache Tomcat, just because some printer status dialog was implemented as a JSP "web page". < 1245265694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, wth < 1245265696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For comparison, VMware Server 1.0 had a GTK program. < 1245265704 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245265717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I know. I used the 1.0 one just a few weeks ago < 1245265738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what about the workstation one < 1245265739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nice, isn't it? (by nice, I mean "actually works") < 1245265751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly the same as the 1.0 one. < 1245265760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes it actually works, as long as someone patches the kernel module for it every now and then < 1245265768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far it has been possible to port it forward < 1245265781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the worst part about this AJAX Java *shit*? < 1245265792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get to wait for it to *load*. < 1245265798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONNECTED TO LOCALHOST. < 1245265825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245265830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why not switch to xen < 1245265842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming your CPU is new enough < 1245265847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some other such tool < 1245265849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kvm or whatever < 1245265851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU's not new enough. < 1245265865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is for work. < 1245265915 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i read that as "CONNECTED TO HOLOCAUST" < 1245265926 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only one letter off, after jumbling D: < 1245265967 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1245265977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loading. For a UI. On localhost. < 1245265990 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that raw X11 via modem is more usable. < 1245266114 0 :k!n=kar8nga@f-40.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245266135 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1245266136 0 :k!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :kar8nga < 1245266227 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :WHy < 1245266230 0 :WHy!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Why < 1245266249 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would this name be a source of confusion? < 1245266264 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the sky blue? < 1245266268 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the grass green? < 1245266429 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY‽ < 1245266449 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION  < 1245266462 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION don't you send Gregor some money? < 1245266475 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION , you find that to be an excellent idea! < 1245266475 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because my college claims all of it. < 1245266478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL THE MONEY. < 1245266478 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can answer why to the last two questions < 1245266481 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the color ones < 1245266482 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245266502 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION are you making excuses, when you know you want to send money to Gregor? < 1245266512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Because < 1245266523 0 :Because!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION the comma was misplaced. < 1245266539 0 :Because!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it wasn't registered < 1245266543 0 :Because!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AnMaster < 1245266553 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I got "Why" :P < 1245266556 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sky is blue because red light is scattered at a lower angle than blue light, so blue light can scatter all over the place, while red light only scatters slightly (hence warmer colors in the evening, when the angles are shallower!) < 1245266561 0 :Why!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :write < 1245266564 0 :write!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as this one < 1245266565 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grass is green because of chlorofil. < 1245266567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245266583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, :) < 1245266585 0 :write!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: That's not much of an answer. < 1245266610 0 :write!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: That's like "why is that painting all red?" "because the paint uses iron for pigmentation" < 1245266677 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Kial < 1245266691 0 :write!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-L < 1245266709 0 :Kial!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vi ne parolas Esperanton? < 1245266711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245266713 0 :Kial!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1245266726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, " augur: That's like "why is that painting all red?" "because the paint uses iron for pigmentation"" <-- perfectly valid? < 1245266743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But useless. < 1245266747 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valid, but not much of an answer. < 1245266747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not really < 1245266758 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sky is blue because it is made of air, and air is blue in color. < 1245266783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sky is blue because SHUT UP AND DRINK YOUR DAMNED TEA. < 1245266787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, very useful if you already know why iron often gives a red colour. < 1245266811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you wish to know why red was chosen for the painting. < 1245266827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh of course that is another way to interpret the question < 1245266841 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when people ask why the sky is blue, do they mean "why" in the sense of purpose or in the sense of a physical explanation? < 1245266865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, I always assume the latter. < 1245266873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the former is nonsense when it comes to the sky < 1245266883 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: BECAUSE GOD LIKES THE COLOR BLUE < 1245266885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for paint it might not be nonsense of course < 1245266888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Unless you're theistic. < 1245266892 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but that makes no sense < 1245266902 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why single out the sky? < 1245266950 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a good answer would be "because all visible physical objects have a color, and blue is as good as any" < 1245266956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, in this case, because if you see a painted house or such someone probably decided what colour to give it. Unless they picked at random or such < 1245266970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, interesting one < 1245266975 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, "because if the sky was green, you would ask why is it green" < 1245266987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is a nice touch < 1245267001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to the "so you had something to ask about" reply in other cases. < 1245267014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a very good answer < 1245267030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the physically explanation is usually what you want IME. < 1245267034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I usually do. < 1245267036 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is no physical explanation. < 1245267082 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because certain electrons have certain transitions that correspond to a wavelength we perceive as blue" is not any different from "it's blue because it's blue" < 1245267086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that iron gives a red colour in paint, yet pure iron isn't red (it is a grey metal afaik), is rather interesting. < 1245267105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron can also be black, with enough carbon in it < 1245267165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a lot of metals that have different colors in compounds. < 1245267186 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copper, for example, is blue in compounds. < 1245267193 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome is green. < 1245267196 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason for gold being yellow is absolutely insane < 1245267200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1245267201 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why I have to stay away from certain green fabrics :P < 1245267205 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum tunneling effects or something < 1245267229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Really? That's... Wow. < 1245267248 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gold reacts differently, depending on subtle relativistic effects that affect the orbitals around gold atoms. < 1245267254 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*brain explodes* < 1245267259 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was from The Oracle) < 1245267262 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relativistic effects. < 1245267286 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in atoms. < 1245267304 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note, however < 1245267307 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah, "relativistic effects" links to the page "Relativistic quantum chemistry" < 1245267310 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the only reason this explanation is relevant < 1245267313 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The very existence of that page makes my brain hurt. < 1245267316 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is because the real question is not "why is gold yellow" < 1245267326 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is "why is gold yellow, unlike the other metals?" < 1245267330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I'm well aware of the different colour in compounds thing < 1245267336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also I think I remember the reason < 1245267336 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when people ask why the sky is blue < 1245267381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (that was from The Oracle) <-- why would you trust that < 1245267390 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE IT IS THE ORACLE < 1245267392 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they really just mean why it is blue < 1245267399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, internet oracle? < 1245267405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about the same thing < 1245267408 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no need for a physical explanation, you can just tell them to go fuck themselves < 1245267408 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia < 1245267415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, not the internet oracle then? < 1245267418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains it < 1245267424 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is THE ORACLE. < 1245267433 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No further adjectives needed. < 1245267437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, this is: http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~oracle/index.cgi < 1245267438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fail < 1245267448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer bowing before Kibo. < 1245267496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gold reacts differently, depending on subtle relativistic effects that affect the orbitals around gold atoms. <-- where is the quote from < 1245267503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :url < 1245267503 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia < 1245267504 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Oracle. < 1245267509 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold#Color_of_gold < 1245267533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, yeah, looked how many pages wikipedia has? It's like saying "oh it was from the library" when someone asks "what book"? < 1245267541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"?/?"/ < 1245267545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1245267547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"\?/?"/ < 1245267547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even < 1245267564 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't have been that complicated to figure out that it was PROBABLY on the Wikipedia page "Gold" X_X < 1245267564 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeesh < 1245267604 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gold reacts differently, depending on subtle relativistic effects that affect the orbitals around gold atoms." // I know this is on Wikipedia, but I guess I'll just have to go to Special:Random a billion fucking times until I find it. < 1245267628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, oooh nice. BogoSearch < 1245267635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like bogosort, but for searching < 1245267648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have bogosearch, binary search, and so on < 1245267672 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksearch? < 1245267693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, an alias for asking ehird on irc :D < 1245267703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_algorithm < 1245267754 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1245267764 0 :Floor_Feline!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gracenotes < 1245267794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT explains why nick completion worked so well today < 1245267811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1245267822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you keep the nick "Floor_Feline". VERY nice nick. :P < 1245267822 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-P < 1245267849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L sorts after I too. So even better < 1245267868 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, "Flexplay" and other disposable DVD formats. < 1245267887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great for people willing to copy a DVD. < 1245267888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1245267900 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap for everyone else. < 1245267906 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g, r, e. They're, like, right next to each other < 1245267917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, "disposable DVD"? Err what < 1245267939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, I usually type two chars before tab completing < 1245267944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more, no less < 1245267946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it usually works < 1245267950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in large channels < 1245267953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The plastic used in them slowly reacts with oxygen to make them unplayable after 48 hours. < 1245267959 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delightful! < 1245267968 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sold at $5 a pop. < 1245267972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how silly. And the shelf life would be very short < 1245267983 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're stored sealed. < 1245267983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they would cost more than normal DVDs to manufacture I guess? < 1245267989 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched to GKennethR on Sine for this reason. < 1245267993 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I won't switch here. < 1245268001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're on sale today. < 1245268005 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YE CAN NEVER TEK MAH FREEDOM < 1245268005 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, they cost more. < 1245268011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly, no? < 1245268015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, so what is the point if they cost more < 1245268026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Competing with rentals. < 1245268027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, is this a reference to Discworld? < 1245268028 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: They sell them for less because you have to rebuy them. < 1245268031 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE NICK TO CHANGE < 1245268038 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ............wtf. < 1245268046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, "Wee free men" you know. < 1245268046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they've still got a ridiculous profit margin on the things. < 1245268109 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never actually /seen/ them, but I'd heard of them. < 1245268110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, they showed up in four different books so far. Extremely important parts in three of them < 1245268112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're dirt cheap for anyone willing to, y'know, use a DVD burner. < 1245268113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is not trivia < 1245268116 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And $5 is RIDICULOUSLY expensive for that. < 1245268122 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering that RedBox is $1/night. < 1245268124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, "seen"? You mean "read about"? < 1245268127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1245268135 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, I mean seen. < 1245268136 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen them in stores. < 1245268145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, not talking about the same thing any more? < 1245268146 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Oh, different convo :P < 1245268148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245268149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped out on those. < 1245268150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1245268170 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But no, that was a Braveheart reference. < 1245268170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, but was it such a reference or not? < 1245268174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1245268174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since, well... New DVDs are $10. RedBox rentals are $1/night. < 1245268177 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point? < 1245268184 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: $9? < 1245268198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can either spend a bit more and get a full disc, or a bit less and copy it. < 1245268201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "redbox"? < 1245268208 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 9/10ths is not "a bit" < 1245268215 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's a DVD rental machine in the US. < 1245268228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"machine"? < 1245268230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245268235 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, machine. < 1245268238 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little vending-machine type thing. < 1245268238 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, series of machines. < 1245268240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean rental store? < 1245268244 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean machine. < 1245268258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell would they be able to check who rented it and make sure they get them back from a machine < 1245268262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be easy to fool < 1245268270 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You have to use a card, and it charges you regardless. < 1245268275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245268281 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have your credit card information, and if you keep the thing for 30 days, it's yours. < 1245268290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, interesting < 1245268304 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one a block from my apt, so I use it now and then. < 1245268320 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've not used it, but I may soon as I get a DVD burner. < 1245268322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION haven't watched video or dvd for over a year by now < 1245268332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tv < 1245268346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except short youtube videos and such of course < 1245268349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I mean, VHS video < 1245268357 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I rip to .mkv and then return several hours after I checked it out :P < 1245268364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no TV either, I do have an old VHS unit < 1245268368 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(H.264 and vorbis) < 1245268370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere < 1245268375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'd do that if I had a terabyte hard drive. < 1245268376 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl @ VHS < 1245268398 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, really, I could just rip anyways; I've got free space. < 1245268401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also. < 1245268402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, And a gramophone player. (Or do you call it something else in US? I forgot.) < 1245268409 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(H.264 and AAC. :P) < 1245268415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually use the gramophone player sometimes < 1245268415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Gramophone or record. < 1245268418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a few days ago < 1245268421 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Record is more common. < 1245268424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :played some music from the 70s < 1245268427 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Record" is a stupid word :P < 1245268437 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes it is. < 1245268445 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why we use it in America. < 1245268451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gramofon in Swedish < 1245268452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods < 1245268479 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer "phonograph" < 1245268502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When words containing ph are imported from English to Swedish those "ph" turns into "f".) < 1245268515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess gramophone is originally Latin < 1245268523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neo-latin that is < 1245268536 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with the invention of the gramophone machine in the year 15 :P < 1245268569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ... the word sounds like it is based on Latin words < 1245268578 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245268590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, telephone -> telefon in Swedish < 1245268608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph in Swedish would be extremely strange. < 1245268655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You fail Latin; phone is Greek < 1245268672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I don't know either Greek or Latin, so quite possibly < 1245268724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the words imported from them are in some aspects rather similar. Hard to tell from which of those it comes < 1245268733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me at least < 1245268754 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio is Latin, phone is Greek. < 1245268813 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phonaudio < 1245268817 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audiophone < 1245268821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tele"? < 1245268842 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remote-sound < 1245268846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know < 1245268849 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek < 1245268852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245268855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1245268860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixing would be better < 1245268863 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course we all know, I just thought it would be amusing to say words like that. < 1245268877 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm answering the remote-sound, turn off the remote-sight" < 1245268893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tele-sight? teleview? < 1245268894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245268898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245268899 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeleVISION < 1245268899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TV < 1245268901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1245268909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1245268917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be funnier to use native names for it < 1245268921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or telescope, which is all greek < 1245268928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be like Leonardo da Qurim < 1245268928 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vision is Latin, FWIW. < 1245268948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because it submerges into the sea I call it going-under-the-water-safely-device" < 1245268953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quote from memory) < 1245268988 0 :Corun_!n=Corun@94-194-108-92.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245269006 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: "fjernsyn" is a norwegian word for television... < 1245269018 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although everybody says tv these days < 1245269018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes you like translating iirc < 1245269020 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fee-ern sin? < 1245269025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "kringkasting" iirc? < 1245269028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that Danish < 1245269030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for broadcasting < 1245269036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: norwegian < 1245269038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what broadcasting is in Swedish < 1245269047 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt "kring" is danish < 1245269047 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people and your multiple languages. < 1245269057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1245269062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that < 1245269066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like nynorsk to me < 1245269069 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't /taste/ danish. < 1245269080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, kring sounds like Swedish to me < 1245269081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245269084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omkring" < 1245269088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _might_ be danish too < 1245269089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(around) < 1245269100 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brödkasting < 1245269109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, kuddkrig < 1245269120 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: OMG RING < 1245269163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, Rather lame failed attempt at what might, in the right light, be considered a joke < 1245269192 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245269192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needless to say, the right light was not present here. < 1245269199 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh wikipedia has neither swedish nor danish links for "broadcasting" < 1245269284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: also, more like fyernseen < 1245269319 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguely < 1245269353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is it like it would be in Swedish? < 1245269357 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fine heres a better answer < 1245269363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, to what... < 1245269367 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are three kinds of ways things can get color < 1245269377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh THAT < 1245269382 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Help, help, English is being drowned in crazy continental languages! < 1245269382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably pretty close < 1245269393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with an ä for the first e < 1245269394 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first is by allowing only some light through then. color filters, for instance, absorb only some colors of light < 1245269399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, if so the English approx is rather weird < 1245269400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1245269406 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats not absorbed is what color the filter appears to be < 1245269413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1245269435 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second is by reflection, where something absorbs some colors of light, while reflecting the rest < 1245269450 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why surfaces have the color they do < 1245269468 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why semi-surfaces like air or steam or whatnot have the color they do < 1245269505 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third is emmission, whereby the atoms of the thing radiate light of a particular color without reflection or transparency < 1245269506 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish for "telephone" is "puhelin", which I guess is a bit like saying "talkie". ("puhe" is "talk", "speech"; but I'm not sure the "-lin" suffix in this particular case has a very definite meaning. Though literally speaking you could read it as a rather informal variation of the "to speak" verb in the first-person imperfect tense; so, "I spoke". Though that would be "puhuin" normally, "puhelin" sounds like you're sort-of chatting and not doing any serious t < 1245269506 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alking.) < 1245269548 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brbrbrbrb < 1245269550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, explain the physical properties resulting in iron giving red colour. < 1245269568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bonds < 1245269584 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245269599 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245269611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Finnish is so expressive... < 1245269613 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :details specific to irony, or in general? < 1245269624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, both < 1245269632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know the details of iron. < 1245269637 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can give you a general view of it < 1245269642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember details for "why bonds give different colour than non-bonds" < 1245269651 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohwell its not so much bonds, right < 1245269662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do remember the electrons moving up to different energy level < 1245269666 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to do with the electron shells < 1245269672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then "falling" back down and such < 1245269680 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, thats absorption-reemission < 1245269685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, yes, but "why different in bonds" is the bit I *don't* remember < 1245269687 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not really sure that that plays a role in reflection tho < 1245269698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, oh? then what does < 1245269781 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know. it might be that. but im not entirely certain < 1245269807 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bonds occur precisely because they allow the molecule to have a smaller energy than the atom parts, so it is reasonable that some individual electrons would get shifted too < 1245269827 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245269859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah yes, now I remember < 1245269996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is really interesting how some help texts in linux kernel config is so out of date < 1245270008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pocket and portable adapters (NET_POCKET) < 1245270009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cute little network (Ethernet) devices which attach to the parallel < 1245270009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :port ("pocket adapters"), commonly used with laptops. < 1245270013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- < 1245270014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245270025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops still have parallel ports? < 1245270026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commonly? < 1245270028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245270099 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh; things were so easy back at those periods of school when electrons had those well-defined places and anything. In the quantum physics course it was all Schrodinger equations, and we barely managed to actually find some solutions for hydrogen, since it has that "simple" radial equation; and even that involved Laguerre polynomials and whatnot. < 1245270199 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I mean, really, *hydrogen*. You can't get much more simple than that. < 1245270215 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free elections. < 1245270216 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245270232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free the oppressed electrons! < 1245270243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1245270274 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: how _dare_ you make such a misreadable comment < 1245270289 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1245270292 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to write electrons < 1245270294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also read it as electron first < 1245270306 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary... < 1245270309 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, im talking about the iran elections with someone at the same time < 1245270314 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the words are only one letter off < 1245270320 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY LEXICAL PRIMING < 1245270336 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free electrons in iron! < 1245270343 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1245270345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1245270523 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh damn it, I just entered an rm command with a wildcard without thinking < 1245270532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much did you lose? < 1245270542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once lost my only Unlambda->Underlambda compiler like that < 1245270544 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully I didn't delete anything I needed... in fact, I ended up deleting just what I wanted < 1245270546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still haven't recreated it < 1245270559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays I set Emacs to save its backups in a different directory from the files themselves < 1245270562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to mitigate that sort of thing < 1245270592 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I could have accidentally pressed a space and I would have ended up deleting *srt and * :/ < 1245270598 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully didn't. whew. < 1245270644 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just reflexively hit enter. anyway.. I haven't had any rm accidents that I remember... < 1245270789 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/594/ PAHAHA < 1245271118 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rm'd my home dir once. < 1245271120 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sucked. < 1245271282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: recursively? < 1245271296 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1245272060 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-150.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1245272220 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245272220 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1245272512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : YAY LEXICAL PRIMING <-- "lexical priming"? < 1245272515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1245272539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, a tip: < 1245272551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -I < 1245272557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is less intrusive than -i < 1245272569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only asks for when you have more than x files, and only ask once then < 1245272577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = 3 or 4 iirc < 1245272580 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1245272583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245272588 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use interactive mode much < 1245272602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, I don't use -i either, but -I is quite ok < 1245272607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-i is just painful < 1245272610 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, either.. < 1245272618 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not if you feed yes into it :P < 1245272637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, I also have a safeguard preventing rm -rf * ~. rm is really a bash function wrapping the real rm here. < 1245272647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which checks for any argument being ~, and a few other things < 1245272656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then does rm -I < 1245272659 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex matchin < 1245272668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, yes bash have that < 1245272670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=~ < 1245272675 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, me knows < 1245272678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ $myvar =~ ^foo ]] < 1245272681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245272685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~= maybe? < 1245272687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot < 1245272725 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: lexical priming is when the content of your thoughts activates words or phrases in preparation for their use, making it more likely that theyll accidentally be spoken in place of semantically, syntactically, or phonologically similar words < 1245272766 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, hm ok. "accidentally" doesn't happen there unless someone else suddenly change topic like you did < 1245272783 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did i change topic? < 1245272785 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt change topic. < 1245272796 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245272801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, also it wouldn't have happen if you had *said* election. Because the difference when spoken is quite a bit more noticeable < 1245272802 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no, it has nothing to do with topics. < 1245272811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : And I mean, really, *hydrogen*. You can't get much more simple than that. < 1245272811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : free elections. < 1245272815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you did < 1245272828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were talked about electrons < 1245272838 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no, anmaster, 1) it could easily have happened in speach < 1245272843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 2) i was talking about electrons too. < 1245272847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, not with that specific example < 1245272851 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, anmaster < 1245272854 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that specific example. < 1245272862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, oh. I thought you changed the topic to elections < 1245272865 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1245272867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean that you typoed? < 1245272868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1245272869 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1245272876 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you paying attention AT ALL? < 1245272880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough of these eel crumbs < 1245272884 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why i brought up lexical priming < 1245272886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, I thought you were trying to confuse us! < 1245272905 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster, you thought that because you didnt read, right after that, were i said that i meant electron not electrion < 1245272907 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1245272909 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damnig, < 1245272912 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1245272932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, I missed that line due to someone trying to talk with me in "RL" at the same time yes. A rather annoying person. < 1245272944 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then shut the fuck up with your stupid bullshit < 1245272952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what? < 1245272960 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do this all the fucking time < 1245272974 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245272977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yore speeling is giust fine < 1245272986 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont pay attention to the channel, and then you get into these fucking arguments because you dont know what the fuck people said < 1245272992 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you act like you DO know < 1245273012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, so what is it called when it is lexical priming while reading? As in, you read something different than what it says, instead of write something different than you intendent < 1245273014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intended* < 1245273019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which both oerjan and I did. < 1245273034 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats lexical priming as well. same thing. < 1245273037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245273049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was that bit we were talking about. < 1245273066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its lexical priming in both production and recognition < 1245273099 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexical priming does all sorts of crazy shit. < 1245273130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, 1) yes I sometimes read "holistically", I don't have time to do everything 2) no I don't _intentionally_ act like I read the channel. < 1245273156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example I'm also trying to configure a new kernel at the same time as chatting in 5 irc channels, one of them being this one < 1245273164 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats nice < 1245273175 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should stop presuming you know whats going on then < 1245273188 0 :tetha!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the kernel will prolly panic :) < 1245273192 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION meeps < 1245273196 0 :tombom_!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1245273263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe you should stop presuming you know whats going on then <-- see point 2 < 1245273276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tetha, probably not, I have done this many times before. < 1245273298 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see this whole conversation. < 1245273315 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-179-017.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1245273323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb GregorR-L < 1245273331 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just randomly start talking about something without having read the relevant text < 1245273338 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just found a phrase and asked about it < 1245273366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, I did read it. But not completely it seems. I missed one line. So what? Why are you so angry over such a small thing. < 1245273384 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mustve missed more than one line there buddy < 1245273406 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed about three < 1245273406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only the line " i meant to write electrons" < 1245273413 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRY THE TWO AFTER THAN HUH < 1245273429 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: but what does this have to do with elderberries? < 1245273429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read them < 1245273444 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: im not sure how i feel about elderberries. < 1245273445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't understand that joke... < 1245273457 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some swedish elderflower drink the other day < 1245273459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was ok < 1245273463 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasted like tea tho < 1245273466 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing special < 1245273486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, I can't find timestamp on nabble... < 1245273503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh javascript needed < 1245273505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you need to understand the price of tea in china < 1245273508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for timestamp? < 1245273511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1245273527 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tea in china is pretty cheap < 1245273596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't have time to try to figure out what this joke is. So I won't. < 1245273615 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tea in china isn't cheap, if it's in nice china < 1245273636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's drunk by a chinchilla? < 1245273832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You may need to mount the usbfs file system to see the files, use < 1245273832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb" <-- /proc is already a pseudo file system, why do you need to mount another peudo file system inside it. Why can't the kernel just "merge" them and show them as one... < 1245273844 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :china chinchilla ocha? < 1245274100 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245274100 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tombom < 1245274111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ocha? < 1245274121 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :japanese word for tea < 1245274135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245274137 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o- is an honorific prefix < 1245274141 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cha by itself is tea as well < 1245274227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "O, great almighty tea?" < 1245274230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1245274238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245274290 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheerfully chug your chinchilla chai < 1245274304 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chai is the same root as cha < 1245274334 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assumed so < 1245274440 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same root as "tea", actually < 1245274941 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-5-72.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1245275806 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245275806 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1245276386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone remembers SLIP? < 1245276416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, do you remember PPP at least? < 1245276430 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember both, although TBH I learned about SLIP well after PPP :P < 1245276430 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Penis Power Pounding? < 1245276452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, ah, you never used SLIP? < 1245276453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have < 1245276462 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say that. < 1245276463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for about a month or two < 1245276465 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used SLIP < 1245276473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the ISP switched to PPP < 1245276484 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only used SLIP over a NULL modem cable. < 1245276495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245276544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I found out I had PPP turned on in my kernel for some totally unknown reason < 1245276597 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think EUnet only supported SLIP when we got our first intertube, but it didn't take long for them to add PPP too. < 1245276738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's even possible that it was some sort of pre-2.0 Trumpet Winsock (for win 3.something) didn't do PPP. < 1245276767 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245276820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trumpet Winsock"? < 1245276822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that < 1245276826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on mac back then < 1245276833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wouldn't have run into it < 1245276887 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, that was an implementation of Winsock (you heard me), back when real Winsock was Winuseless. < 1245277127 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, pre-95 versions didn't do that sort of stuff. Although I seem to recall that they provided some sort of official TCP/IP dialup support too. Maybe around the time IE was ported to 3.1 windows. < 1245277181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245277218 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1245277240 0 :Corun_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1245277446 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245277985 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-108-92.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245278224 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1245279834 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Co-Run < 1245279849 0 :Co-Run!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Core-Run < 1245280180 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1245280703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245281232 0 :Core-Run!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245281247 0 :Co-Run!n=Corun@94-194-108-92.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245281270 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1245282197 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245283149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night"