< 1246838409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: quad 12x infiniband is 96 gigabits < 1246838414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCIe x16 is faster. < 1246838416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCIe xA(g_64,g_64) < 1246838480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that per direction or combined? < 1246838481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCIe x16 could be faster though < 1246838490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1m4s to transfer a terabyte < 1246838494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's the total speed < 1246838508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so it is half in either direction then? < 1246838514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effective theoretical throughput in different configurations < 1246838517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's per direction. < 1246838521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1246838532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the same for infiniband? < 1246838539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is infiniband < 1246838550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant for PCIe then < 1246838564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. < 1246838581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is highly relevant. if it was total combined it would be slower than infiband. < 1246838589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while if it was per direction it would be faster < 1246838613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infiniband is still slow — "For example, the NEC SX-9 provides 128 GB/s of low-latency interconnect bandwidth between each computing node, compared to the 96 Gbit/s of an InfiniBand 12X Quad Data Rate link.[original research?])" < 1246838619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 1024 gbit, beating all the others handily < 1246838639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, the crt of the TV downstairs has a slightly lower frequency, still high one though < 1246838660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246838770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how silly that the Irish archlinux mirror is faster by orders of magnitudes than the Swedish ones < 1246838784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, heanet has always been a good mirror for me < 1246838800 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Clearly we should have system buses faster than L1 cache. < 1246838807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Ccc-4.4.0-4-i686 15,6M 9,8K/s 00:16:58 [#################################################################------------------------------------------] 61% < 1246838813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. < 1246838815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gcc-4.4.0-4-i686 25,3M 1714,8K/s 00:00:15 [###########################################################################################################] 100% < 1246838845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: QUANTUM BUS < 1246838854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ awesome idea in any interpretation < 1246838881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, quantum school bus? < 1246838903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ awesome idea in any interpretation < 1246838913 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus? < 1246838915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine can serve as that. < 1246838922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, both the "many worlds" one, and the other one) < 1246838937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: because if we entangle passengers, we can fit more people on. < 1246838948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: Using qubits to deliver infinite gigabytes/sec. < 1246838989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: Don't look at it. < 1246838989 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246838996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: quantising passengers into individual quantums so quantum mechanics applies. < 1246839036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: We just put the bus in a superposition of at the starting point and at the destination, then someone looks at it from the starting point. Repeat until it ends up in the destination. < 1246839134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum bus: We check to see if the bus has spontaneously leaped to the destination. If not, we destroy the universe. < 1246839154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works given quantum immortality :) < 1246839166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay also many worlds but that's obvious < 1246839172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quantum immortality depends on MWI < 1246839213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum immortality is stupid anyway. < 1246839224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's true, we never sleep :) < 1246839303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfs rocks < 1246839325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1246839351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, got a better suggestion for what it is meant for? That is, for accessing remote files across a protected network < 1246839362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. scp? < 1246839363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like accessing music files on your file server < 1246839366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and playing < 1246839371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without copying to local < 1246839373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fail < 1246839377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THen nope. < 1246839386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nfs has all the problems of rpc, and is crufty. < 1246839391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then nfs rocks compared to the alternatives. < 1246839400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you would use cifs (samba) < 1246839410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't give a shit. Plenty of things fit said criteria and are still crap. < 1246839425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nfs is the best one though. And it works. < 1246839430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saying "oh, it's great because it exists!" is a very stupid thing to say. < 1246839432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with no major issues < 1246839438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1246839445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say "because it exists" < 1246839446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: plan 9 removes the cruft but keeps the fundamental issues. < 1246839450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevertheless, it is therefore fundamentally better. < 1246839455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, your statement is false. < 1246839460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is great, because it works and is quite simple to get working < 1246839465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which can't be said for samba < 1246839513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does linux and freebsd support it? IIRC Linux kernel config has some experimental "Plan9 resourcesharing fs" thingy or such < 1246839520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember the details < 1246839535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since the client is a freebsd machine < 1246839537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care or know, but it's just 9P, and there are Linux implementation of 9P. < 1246839543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably BSD too. < 1246839550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9P < 1246839559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A kernel client driver for Linux is part of the v9fs project < 1246839565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v9fs - u9fs: 9P implementation for Unix-like operating systems < 1246839577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a loadable Linux module. < 1246839579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ mount -t 9p 10.10.1.2 /mnt/9 < 1246839579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ mount -t 9p `namespace`/acme /mnt/9 -o trans=unix,uname=$USER < 1246839599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: v9fs does bsd too it seems < 1246839608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://swik.net/v9fs < 1246839612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creepy logo. < 1246839624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, nothing FreeBSDy there < 1246839628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Documentation can be found in the Linux kernel source under Documentation/filesystems/9p.txt with a snapshot captured here < 1246839632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so good news: it's in Linux mainline. < 1246839637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Creepy logo. <-- so true < 1246839647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, doesn't help me when I use various other OS < 1246839652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking. < 1246839678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://9p.cat-v.org/implementations < 1246839683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I use other *BSD too a lot. Only reason I avoid OpenSolaris is the license :P < 1246839696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9puffs 9p2000 Client C NetBSD BSD Userspace file system driver implemented on top of puffs. < 1246839700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this doesn't imply OpenSolaris is a subset of *BSD) < 1246839714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puffs looks netbsd-only though. < 1246839728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, never heard of puffs, but then netbsd is the bsd I use least < 1246839735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: great success — < 1246839736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man4/9pfuse.html < 1246839754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure you have FUSE, install Plan 9 from User Space. < 1246839761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't use your package manager; it shits all over the namespace.) < 1246839775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So putting it in /usr is very unwise.) < 1246839793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I would highly doubt freebsd would put anything from ports in /usr < 1246839798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/local yes, but not /usr < 1246839801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever :P < 1246839808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need /opt/plan9 for sanity, really < 1246839820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : //usr is for distro stuff (as in base system) /usr/local for stuff from ports < 1246839822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1246839823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1246839825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr is for distro stuff (as in base system) /usr/local for stuff from ports < 1246839827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1246839833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm well aware < 1246839836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: As for the file server, what OS does it run? You could run it on Plan 9, which would be fun, but I think there's servers for Linux/BSD. < 1246839859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man4/9pserve.html < 1246839860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the file server runs OpenBSD in this case. < 1246839860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaddya know. < 1246839867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I run on linux too < 1246839870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and freebsd < 1246839879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in this specific case: openbsd < 1246839885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't handle mounting an actual real filesystem though. < 1246839893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1246839900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The link I made < 1246839901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a real file system is all I care about sharing < 1246839905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1246839906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lookin < 1246839906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1246839912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that 9P is a very abstract protocol < 1246839923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no interest in sharing /proc, nice as it may be, it isn't my goal in this case < 1246839925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1246839941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of 9P shared stuff is things that simply don't exist in / < 1246839942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, == a PITA < 1246839948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nope < 1246839951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9p is very simple < 1246839958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sharing a real fs is trivial on Plan 9 < 1246839985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is my general experience with "very abstract and flexible" == hard to use in practise < 1246839993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have never used plan 9 < 1246840001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh, maybe someone managed to combine those two attributes < 1246840004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libixp 9p2000 Client Server C All Unix variants MIT Originally as part of the wmii project. < 1246840017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://repo.cat-v.org/libixp/ < 1246840020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, good examples: ALSA, OpenAL. < 1246840029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what "libixp lacks lib9p's file trees." means, but it may be a quick-and-easy way to serve 'er up < 1246840031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is "bad examples" < 1246840038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: scheme. plan 9. < 1246840049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fair enough < 1246840061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think there are more cases of getting it wrong than right. < 1246840068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Systems] should be designed not by piling feature on top of feature, but by removing the weaknesses and restrictions that make additional features appear necessary." < 1246840090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Revised Revised Revised Revised Revised Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme, s/Programming languages/Systems/. < 1246840119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and this will let me do: sudo mount /mnt/phoenix < 1246840121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: < 1246840121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 /* This is a simple 9P file server which serves a normal filesystem < 1246840123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7 * hierarchy. While some of the code is from wmii, the server is by < 1246840124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vlc /mnt/phoenix/musik/kraus/vol1/track02.flac < 1246840125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8 * Ron. < 1246840127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 * < 1246840129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so libixp is definitely what you want < 1246840131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1246840146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mounting will be: < 1246840158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sudo mount ADDRESS /mnt/phoenix < 1246840158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, must go in /etc/fstab < 1246840163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/mount/9pfuse/ < 1246840165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's a FUSE thing < 1246840167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a FUSE filesystem < 1246840173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaknnow? < 1246840178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you have to put it in an init script with fuse < 1246840182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, haven't used FUSE for ages. < 1246840202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also init script won't work since the systems aren't always up < 1246840211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I mount it after I booted the computer in question < 1246840217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alias mountphoenix? < 1246840218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have a noauto line in /etc/fstab :P < 1246840235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why wouldn't fstab work? < 1246840237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1246840240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=FAQ#Is_it_possible_to_mount_a_fuse_filesystem_from_fstab.3F < 1246840245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess you can now < 1246840255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mounting is performed by the /sbin/mount.fuse helper script. In this example the FUSE-linked binary must be called sshfs and must reside somewhere in $PATH. < 1246840263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You'll just have to figure out how to call 9pfuse(1) with it < 1246840270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(4) < 1246840292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anything that can be in /proc/mounts can in general be copied to /etc/fstab + some minor changes and made to work < 1246840293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1246840298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, do that then < 1246840323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 * Note: I added an ifdef for Linux vs. BSD for the mount call, so < 1246840323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11 * this compiles on BSD, but it won't actually run. It should, < 1246840325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12 * ideally, have the option of not mounting the FS. < 1246840327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1246840329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird example: < 1246840331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoenix:/home/anmaster /mnt/phoenix nfs rw,vers=3,rsize=65536,wsize=65536,namlen=255,soft,nointr,proto=tcp,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=192.168.0.191,mountvers=3,mountproto=tcp,addr=192.168.0.191 0 0 < 1246840332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might need to patch ixpsrv.c, then < 1246840332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns into < 1246840337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phoenix:/home/anmaster /mnt/phoenix nfs rw,nfsvers=3,soft,noauto 0 0 < 1246840347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutting out the useless defaults < 1246840355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adding noauto < 1246840360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1246840373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libixp might not be th ebest choice < 1246840375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, mount --bind in fstab? certainly possible. < 1246840375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to linuxness < 1246840387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this was phoenix mounted on linux btw < 1246840397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is mounted on several *bsd too atm < 1246840410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I actually have the speakers connected < 1246840426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there is a reason... believe me) < 1246840434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's called "cable length and placement" < 1246840435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1246840441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get some cable extenders? < 1246840460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I already had a computer near where I needed < 1246840461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why < 1246840467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works well enough < 1246840469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You brought it up. < 1246840483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't imply "I think it is bad" < 1246840491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "this may seem odd to you, but there is a good reason" < 1246840524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a bind mount under *linux looks like: /foo/real /bar/mounted/here none rw,bind 0 0 < 1246840532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1246840533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"none" is the key word there < 1246840546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, on freebsd you use "nullfs" iirc < 1246840562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this other filesystem, incidentally, IS connected via ethernet right? < 1246840581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, via null modem cable! duh < 1246840582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246840589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, not wirelessly < 1246840600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main objection to networked filesystems is over the internet; fast operations — which is basically anything apart from things involving large data, on a harddrive — suddenly take up to seconds < 1246840602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, gbit ethernet between bsd-bsd. But wireless to the linux < 1246840606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaky abstraction, just like RPC < 1246840624 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1246840625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well depends on *which* linu < 1246840627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux* < 1246840628 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246840647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OpenBitTorrent is a bittorrent tracker free for anyone to use. You don't need to register, upload or index a torrent anywhere, all you have to do is to include the OpenBitTorrent tracker URL in your torrent." < 1246840648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shiny. < 1246840691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway, does 9P fail over wlan or something? < 1246840694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or why do you wonder? < 1246840699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:36 ehird: my main objection to networked filesystems is over the internet; fast operations — which is basically anything apart from things involving large data, on a harddrive — suddenly take up to seconds < 1246840702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though over slow wireless counts too) < 1246840704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:36 ehird: leaky abstraction, just like RPC < 1246840707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246840728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, got a better abstraction that does basically the same thing? ;P < 1246840737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu < 1246840744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, for controlling music over the internet... < 1246840744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1246840746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :music player daemon < 1246840759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :networked music library/player with a one-server, many-client architecture < 1246840762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I mean, access various large files as if it was a local file system < 1246840769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right: mu < 1246840774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was giving for a specific case < 1246840788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although of course that limits you to one track since one server, one output < 1246840797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's unlikely to be a limitation for one person < 1246840802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I often compile over nfs, and one computer even use nfs for /, I'm experimenting with thin clients < 1246840810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nfs for /? < 1246840811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1246840823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is the classical way for thin clients < 1246840829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PXE booting and nfs for / < 1246840839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, never tried it? ;P < 1246840853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:37 ehird: "OpenBitTorrent is a bittorrent tracker free for anyone to use. You don't need to register, upload or index a torrent anywhere, all you have to do is to include the OpenBitTorrent tracker URL in your torrent." < 1246840855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:37 ehird: Shiny. < 1246840857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Update: for values of shiny equal to "same ip as the pirate bay" < 1246840863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i hate traditional thin clients < 1246840873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that good or bad? < 1246840891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What do you mean? < 1246840898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" ↑ Update: for values of shiny equal to "same ip as the pirate bay"" < 1246840900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not actually a thing, they just remapped the IP to the pirate bay and put up a website saying it's something new < 1246840902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes no sense < 1246840912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1246840918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GGF only bought the domain name and a copy of the TPB's database(without logs since they dont exist). As of right now the domain name hasn't been transferred. Also the TPB's infrastructure hasn't been sold at all." < 1246840919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1246840940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hnuh < 1246840945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n intentional) < 1246840977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This crap hurts the industry. Where I work I've already seen people being made redundant. The more law suits to get this junk shut down the better. The Internet wasnt created to let people steal movies and music." < 1246840978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—reddit < 1246840980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stab, stab, stab. < 1246840982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, about thin clients.. I'm beginning to see why after experimenting with them :P < 1246841169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway checking out 9P is something I will do in the future. But too much kernel rebuilding on both *bsd and linux required to do this atm, will enable the options the next time I recompile the kernels though < 1246841187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there's no rebuilding required < 1246841188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just FUSE < 1246841198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the 9P stuff in the linux kernel? < 1246841211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is a damn kernel option for it. < 1246841219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Plan 9 from Userspace. < 1246841220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advise didn't include that, though < 1246841224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my advise was cross-platform, too < 1246841228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no shit < 1246841230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've just discussed using it < 1246841233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p9fuse < 1246841247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fuse9p, *9pfuse, I dunno < 1246841247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you recommend that on all OSes? < 1246841256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is your personal experience with it? < 1246841266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: without any further evidence, yes, I would recommend it. and the same of that as google's. < 1246841273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FUSE API *is* implemented on all major OSes but Windows... < 1246841274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246841285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some minor ones; HURD, for example, has an implementation) < 1246841299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I would like to see one for PC-DOS < 1246841302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not MS-DOS) < 1246841345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impossible. < 1246841357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no it's not. loadlin! < 1246841421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that about TPB and this tracker? < 1246841430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why impossible? < 1246841434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it as a TSR < 1246841438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember those? :D < 1246841454 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FUSE API assumes a full-on process. < 1246841475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, meh... I'm sure you could adapt it in some mad way using TSRs < 1246841496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just implement a scheduler in the fuse program < 1246841500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use it to run the other programs < 1246841507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1246842243 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246842480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transhumanist anticipation of the singularity is comparable to Christian anticipation of the second coming of Jesus Christ < 1246842480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] < 1246842482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A movement which views its ultimate purpose as bringing enlightenment to the universe sets itself up in direct opposition to God’s own purpose … their ambition — like Satan’s — will one day lead to an outright physical confrontation with God Himself. It’s a battle that God will win. < 1246842486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAWL < 1246842544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where was that from? < 1246842558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly what will actually happen is that the singularity will become manifest in the form of Jesus Christ. :P < 1246842567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wonderful fundie site Rapture Ready: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/gillette/transhuman.html < 1246842590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tl;dr of the site's prerogative: "The rapture will happen in 1999. Uh. 2003. Uh. 2007. Uh. 2012." < 1246842598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1246842604 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 2012. Really. < 1246842609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Numbers made up. < 1246842617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ignorant psuedo-Mayan of them. < 1246842660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psuedo-Mayan? Why Mayan in specific? < 1246842666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google 2012 < 1246842683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Maya a rather good (but expensive) 3D editor iirc? ~ < 1246842692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Mayan calender sets 2012 as the end of the current epoch. < 1246842698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha < 1246842719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some think that this means that the Mayans predicted the end of the world on 2012. < 1246842726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ldopa.net/2006/06/04/cory-doctorow-visits-a-radio-shack/ ← This is hilarious < 1246842743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When in fact it's merely the end of the current calender epoch; it will just cycle over the day after the winter solstice. < 1246842890 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1246842907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Eliezer Yudkowsky (pronounced “Frankensteen”)]] < 1246842953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :font fail..? < 1246842959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1246842997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure yet < 1246843026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" hm < 1246843036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about it? < 1246843047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet why is … turned into a box in firefox < 1246843061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your mom is a fly. < 1246843066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works in konqueror 3.5 though < 1246843068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1246843161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're studying mathematics, right? a guy on reddit is claiming that "the length of a set is the number of elements it has" is an unusual definition < 1246843167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arguing that a set can have infinite items but finite length < 1246843169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is he on? < 1246843291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even to me, who isn't great at math, that sounds very odd < 1246843300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp, byebye all < 1246843305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? < 1246843306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURN INTO A DOOM OF THE PIG < 1246843309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1246843325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this sounds slightly less sane than "nullity" < 1246843358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Infinite items but finite length? < 1246843383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what sort of screwy axiomatic system he's using, and how much LSD was involved. < 1246848533 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1246848671 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to figure out how to write a resume < 1246849800 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: he must be talking about intervals. < 1246849826 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's simply saying length instead of measure < 1246850070 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246850857 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What JS toolkit is most used by companies? < 1246851203 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://verrahrubicon.free.fr/SPIDER%20WEB.png < 1246851211 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPIDER ON THE WEB < 1246851535 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between jQuery and dojo? < 1246851565 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dojo is for karat < 1246851607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms < 1246851770 0 :Pthingg!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246853198 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-238-252-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1246853938 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246855761 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1246856140 0 :zid!n=zid@zid-1-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246858594 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1246862190 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads about karate. < 1246862284 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads about BCM theory. < 1246862425 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCM? < 1246862558 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCM stands for Bienenstock, Cooper and Munro. < 1246862564 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very elucidating, I'm sure. < 1246862568 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCM_theory < 1246862596 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For all I know it could be Bowel and Cock Movement < 1246862677 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The strangest bodily fluid ever observed. < 1246862969 0 :oklodok!n=nnscript@h028068.gprs.dnafinland.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1246862975 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland! < 1246863005 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1246863016 0 :oklodok!n=nnscript@h028068.gprs.dnafinland.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1246863037 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i interest you all in a sevenfold glio < 1246863194 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! Finland! < 1246863215 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that may be. < 1246863324 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq are you an mit student, or was your praise that of a university theoretician < 1246863344 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or seven glia, if you don't have any Finland on you. < 1246863360 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1246863404 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to have to explain dat < 1246863431 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "sevenfold glio" have an explanation? < 1246863444 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1246863447 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's plain english < 1246863559 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863559 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863559 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863563 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokoko < 1246863563 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863564 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863564 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863566 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1246863567 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863569 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863571 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863573 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1246863575 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1246863577 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863579 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1246863671 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been singing glioing in the fog / glioing in the fogger / the fogger in the fol all week < 1246863682 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiktionary doesn't even have an entry for "glio". < 1246863716 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, it's not plain English. < 1246863723 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a prefix for all that is gluey afaik < 1246863743 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use is as a synonym for oko. < 1246863745 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1246863773 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since when is wiktionary a dictionary < 1246863777 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it decent nowadays? < 1246863998 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well aren't you being asynchronous < 1246864146 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have blow air out of my eye < 1246864152 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can blow < 1246864255 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodok! < 1246864256 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey. < 1246864277 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1246864285 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey aug < 1246864292 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup, love < 1246864295 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awg the dawg < 1246864302 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuu :( < 1246864305 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the English Wiktionary contains more Spanish words than the Spanish Wiktionary, if I'm not mistaken. Which is, you know. < 1246864395 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely don't know < 1246864398 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this website seems to be kind of backwards < 1246864410 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come from linkns? < 1246864411 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps written by someone who's used to programming in befunge or something < 1246864412 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*links < 1246864421 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost, man < 1246864424 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a list of things < 1246864430 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're in reverse order < 1246864431 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound aweful < 1246864438 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sic) < 1246864440 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just numerically < 1246864444 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in terms of content < 1246864449 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1246864453 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one replies to whats said in the second < 1246864473 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only that, but instead of #1 and #2 it says 1# and 2# < 1246864478 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1246864560 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a panic induced high the other day < 1246864569 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders come-from links. < 1246864570 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like saying random things. < 1246864577 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, me too! < 1246864588 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1246864589 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warble < 1246864601 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The random things one. < 1246864610 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, I'll give you a stupid piece of BNF. < 1246864628 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for augur to show he's in charge < 1246864638 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, because of the bnf thing < 1246864645 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the gay thing < 1246864649 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1246864652 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would that? < 1246864672 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well isn't that related to linguistics < 1246864682 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1246864686 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its related to formal grammars? < 1246864704 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i confusing the acronym < 1246864716 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1246864718 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was. < 1246864738 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, but only by virtue of being related to formal grammar < 1246864747 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ::= {"A" | "B" } ( {} | {} | epsilon}; ::= "A" | "B" ; ::= "B" | "A" < 1246864762 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, may have been entirely my fault, but you definitely *did* show you're in charge. < 1246864763 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1246864764 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i win < 1246864766 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by losing. < 1246864773 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that bitch < 1246864785 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That piece of BNF is stupid because it's a really long way of writing ::= {"A" | "B"}. < 1246864806 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, s/};/);/ < 1246864825 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1246864834 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what doe the {}s mean? < 1246864844 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like regex * < 1246864857 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well < 1246864860 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then like < 1246864873 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not a way of writing ::= ("A" | "B") < 1246864888 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ir might be of writing ::= {"A"|"B"} < 1246864923 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that not showing you're in charge < 1246864958 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, her sister betrayed her! < 1246864979 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1246864981 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| is totally a space-requiring operator. < 1246865002 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur moms a space requiring operator < 1246865023 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you, augur, are taking me a bit too literally today. < 1246865041 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wot < 1246865050 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1246865053 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you take my random, and say what < 1246865053 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im taking you too seriously < 1246865057 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not just taking you < 1246865062 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes oklodok < 1246865062 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1246865072 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1246865091 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SEE WHAT'S GOING ON < 1246865100 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyone read dostojevski's idiot < 1246865135 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out everyone in the 19th century was high 24/7. < 1246865239 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread "anyone read that dostojevski idiot", thought "a bit harsh". < 1246865279 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's either an idiot of a genius, that much i know < 1246865282 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or < 1246865290 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, why do all my typos mean something < 1246865343 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "that dostojevski idiot" does not mean dostojevski was an idiot. < 1246865368 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah you'd need to reverse it or it's another genetive < 1246865375 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what are you implying < 1246865396 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, augur: ur moms a space requiring operator <<< how did you come up with this < 1246865397 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess it should be "that idiot dostojevski" then. Anyway, that's the meaning I parsed out of it. < 1246865422 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont parse meanings you parse structures! :| < 1246865441 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this charge is charring my hair < 1246865453 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this char is charging my hair < 1246865470 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the chars themselves that charge, it's the structures < 1246865474 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they form < 1246865489 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forms a structure with oklopol < 1246865527 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, purely-intuitivited (or maybe I remembered it from somewhere) google search style of "that * idiot" (in quotes) actually did what I wanted, which was to find that+[any-word-or-two]+idiot. < 1246865559 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrah! < 1246865562 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im off to read < 1246865568 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, really? < 1246865582 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know its shocking but i do read. < 1246865591 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh read < 1246865595 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said sleep < 1246865596 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bed < 1246865605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a common mistake < 1246865610 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read and sleep look a lot alike < 1246865616 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you close your eyes, anyway. < 1246865634 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as i read the meaning behind sleep and bed, neither word in particular. < 1246865649 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1246865656 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i probably just didn't read the last word < 1246865663 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you read < 1246865721 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :books, usually. < 1246865731 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argument Realization, Chapter 4 - Three conceptualizations of events < 1246865732 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :words? < 1246865734 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are you reading that dostojevski idiot < 1246865738 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes words < 1246865754 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what does that mean? < 1246865787 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means he sometimes reads words < 1246865814 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can just go, it's probably too complicated for my fantastically less cleve brain. < 1246865821 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book is about how arguments to verbs are denoted < 1246865836 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of their position relative to the verbs, and their phrasal type < 1246865872 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes more sense than the meaning i *parsed* at first, that is, "argument realization" as in "how to start a fight". < 1246865876 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like row < 1246865881 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oklodok's fantastically cleaved brain. < 1246865894 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1246865904 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "less cleve" < 1246865906 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you take my awesome pun and turn it into that. < 1246865913 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. < 1246865916 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1246865920 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an interesting book < 1246865924 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and im off to read it now. < 1246865927 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthxbai < 1246865934 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :byes < 1246866055 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was 'augur: you said "less cleve"' referring to < 1246866074 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was replying to your huh < 1246866078 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The little girl says to her father, "What did you bring that book that I did not want to be read to out of about Down Under up for?" < 1246866088 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1246866094 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it an explanation of fizzie's < 1246866107 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal: yes. < 1246866116 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change that sentence so that each preposition precedes the thing it prepositions. < 1246866123 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bane of the english teacher who things you cant end a sentence with a preposition < 1246866141 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, your typo meant too. < 1246866156 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal, you can remove all but one of the sentence final prepositions < 1246866189 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down Under doesnt count, since its a proper noun, so we can ignore it < 1246866205 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more importantly, because we want to actually have a tricky problem, we remove the whole "about Down Under" phrase < 1246866219 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're actually left with five prepositions in a row < 1246866247 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what did you bring up that book out of which I did not want to be read to < 1246866270 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The little girl says to her father, "For what did you bring up that book about Down Under out of which I did not want to be read to?" < 1246866274 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much a match. < 1246866288 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "up" seems to be acting as an adjective. < 1246866296 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1246866299 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a resultative. < 1246866308 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typo. s/adjective/adverb/ < 1246866321 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To be read to" is rather pathological, isn't it. < 1246866322 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. even then. < 1246866328 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not a syntactic adverb < 1246866335 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an adverbial preposition, however. < 1246866348 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or probably more accurately, a preposition that is an argument to the verb. < 1246866368 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "to be read to" is not pathological at all < 1246866376 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a propositional passive. < 1246866379 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be pathological < 1246866385 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what sense < 1246866388 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get < 1246866407 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pathological in that you can't make the "to" precede its prepositionee. < 1246866434 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by "prepositionee", I mean "complement". < 1246866436 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but thats not pathological. < 1246866501 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pathological for people who want to do that. < 1246866522 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone does that < 1246866529 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some just refuse to admit it. < 1246866560 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone makes prepositions precede their prepositionees? < 1246866586 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, everyone strands their prepositions < 1246866589 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in english) < 1246866682 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i had something to drink to < 1246866694 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink to churchill! < 1246866714 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so going to drink up to it < 1246866997 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go drink on up to it, oklodok < 1246867034 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're going to be up your churchill in drinks. < 1246867045 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i can drink up to it. < 1246867047 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than being up to your drinks in churchill! < 1246867084 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed the "to" too. < 1246867095 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt notice at all. < 1246867109 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they mean a different thing < 1246867116 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1246867123 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up your churchill being in churchill's ass < 1246867130 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe! < 1246867136 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i read it < 1246867140 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bes up my oklodok? < 1246867163 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be is actually somewhat of an irregular verb. < 1246867169 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEWHAT? < 1246867180 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's occasionatively irregular, i'd say. < 1246867182 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be, i am, you are, he/she/it is, we/you/they are < 1246867199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1246867200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1246867208 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was, you were, he/she/it/was, we/you/they were < 1246867240 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah and those are only the beginning < 1246867322 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE ME UP, BEFORE YOU GO GO < 1246867351 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1246867362 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm insane < 1246867362 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the original? "Beam me up before you go-go?" < 1246867374 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1246867375 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking i've definitely heard that somewhere < 1246867377 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wake < 1246867377 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original is wake me up. < 1246867384 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you listen do disco < 1246867388 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246867389 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to < 1246867403 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one fucking finger typo, and i'd be happy < 1246867407 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nooooo < 1246867426 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, its not disco < 1246867428 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pop. < 1246867429 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthxbye < 1246867440 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i've been lied to < 1246867453 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck at going < 1246867455 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like me < 1246867460 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sad < 1246867473 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread "just lick me". < 1246867474 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1246867481 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks oklodok < 1246867492 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah stop sucking and start licking < 1246867500 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, i mustve misread it too! D: < 1246867540 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should go too, to the shoppe, to buy < 1246867552 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do have beer here, but i'm not sure i'm man enough < 1246867587 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i saw this three-year-old < 1246867596 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i tried to ask him if he knew group theory < 1246867598 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no < 1246867599 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't < 1246867614 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wasn't even that interested in hearing < 1246867640 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a lossager. < 1246867646 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wanted to pour more water in his flower soup < 1246867657 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and list spanish words to me < 1246867739 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although he just listed three < 1246867759 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he wasn't interested in hearing the italian translations < 1246867768 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is even lossagerer < 1246867778 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun generalization: instead of a subject pronoun followed by a copula, use a possessive pronoun. < 1246867841 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My not alone, and your not alone either. Our all in this together. That's why we can defeat them; their all scattered about. His in one place, her in another." < 1246867879 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid of that < 1246867911 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that was a bit too obvious. < 1246868416 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if i didn't know better, i'd think you actually wanted the man to have a nervous breakdown" "then maybe you don't know better, because i care for your father too" < 1246868425 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the man = father) < 1246868480 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i didn't know better, i'd think that made no sense. < 1246868503 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately you know butter. < 1246868515 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again the incredible genius got the beginning of the fibonacci sequence wrong, so i guess i might be right. < 1246868516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the biblical sense, I guess. < 1246868534 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love tv shows that have math/cs in them < 1246868549 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are such? < 1246868555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have a televisor. < 1246868556 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well definitely not < 1246868564 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean shows that try to have them < 1246868614 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of something called numb3rs, but no details. < 1246868635 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's on tv, it's probably done wrong. < 1246868658 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people aren't interested in anything interesting < 1246868662 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's psychology < 1246868721 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i'll download that if it's a show < 1246868725 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the title of this one: http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/MeasuringTheSpeedOfLightWithMarshmallows/ < 1246868787 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection is very slow, i'm downloading a lot of... puppies, because i finally have a stable flow of internet here. < 1246868814 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get that open at all it seems < 1246868858 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The puppies are probably eating the marshmallows, then. < 1246868911 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm overdosing on life atm < 1246868923 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably should drink the beer to calm down. < 1246868963 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm seriously contemplating running out without my clothes on < 1246868983 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, to greet the trees < 1246868985 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TREES < 1246869000 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason they have leaves < 1246869021 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should put my clothes on < 1246869063 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my university professors moved into the building < 1246869095 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not very nice because i know him well enough that i have to greet him < 1246869113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might rise some eyebrows (or maybe other things as well!) if you were to go greet him sans clothes. < 1246869114 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm afraid i'll start talking math to him < 1246869124 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be very unprofessional of me. < 1246869154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's lunch-sausage time now. < 1246869177 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a mathematica fetishist, actually < 1246869195 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i probably couldn't petrify his pendulum < 1246869263 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :written like a 1000 page book about mathematica, but didn't know what GC is < 1246869306 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway enjoy sawing your sages, i'll try that shoppe thing < 1246869386 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does QED stand for? < 1246869395 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum electro dynamics < 1246869396 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1246869400 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quod erat demonstrandum < 1246869464 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur speaks latin natively < 1246869485 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do. < 1246869550 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to find the name of the imaginary country that'd speak latin, but wasn't sure what it'd be < 1246869562 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He mostly speaks gay < 1246869562 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Holy See. < 1246869567 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't come up with a language that ends in "in" < 1246869578 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Athabaskin < 1246869595 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one where the country is a simple suffix modification < 1246869611 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not the case there < 1246869662 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin is the language spoken by Lats. < 1246869672 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latand? < 1246869690 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin is spoken by Latins in Latium. < 1246869709 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mandarin is spoken by mandarine < 1246869713 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italiïn. < 1246869799 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawaiiïn. < 1246869823 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tok Pisin. < 1246869833 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend knows tp < 1246869845 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1246869846 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaks < 1246869858 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. i guess that's too strong a word < 1246869861 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something in between < 1246869874 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Understands? < 1246869876 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Latin and Tok Pisin are the only Wikipedias ending in in. < 1246869892 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that. or occasionally obsesses over. < 1246870007 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"# The Klingon language edition of the Wikipedia is no longer hosted by Wikimedia and is now hosted by Wikia as Klingon Wiki. There is more on the history of the Klingon Wikipedia." < 1246870009 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you! < 1246870051 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Among the problems was the existence of interwiki links from the main page and other articles, which some Wikipedians felt detracted from the scholarly appearance of the project." < 1246870063 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't an article on Obama in Klingon serious? < 1246870075 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about assassinating him < 1246870093 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine such an article would refer to him as Admiral Obama < 1246870098 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Warlord Obama < 1246870135 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1246870159 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because most of Klingon is derived from Star Trek so the vocabulary is famously rather limited < 1246870164 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially for everyday things < 1246870184 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIvI' HoSghaj 'oH America yoSmey jIj'e' (United States of America). tInqu' yoSghomvam 'ej mIpqu'. < 1246870184 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaghmaH yoS ghaj. Washington 'oH monDaj'e'. motlh pa' DIvI' Hol jatlhlu'. DIS 1776 yoSmey jIj luchenmoHlu'ta'. George Washington ghaH che'wI' wa'DIch pong'e'. DaH Barack Obama ghaH che'wI' loSmaH loSDIch'e'. < 1246870211 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just heard it's good for talking about killing, and nothing else. < 1246870228 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1246870251 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why the assassin joke was so hilarious < 1246870263 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were wondering why you're dripping stomach fluids < 1246870263 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What joke < 1246870272 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1246870272 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine < 1246870276 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look closelier < 1246870280 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1246870311 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explains a lot doesn't it < 1246870510 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1246870515 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously shoppe < 1246870516 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1246871282 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%f %f", 1.0, 0.0); < 1246871285 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.000000 0.000000 < 1246871293 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%f %f", 1.0f, 0.0f); < 1246871294 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.000000 0.000000 < 1246871418 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c while(1){printf("f");} < 1246871424 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1246871431 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c while(1){printf("f\n");} < 1246871433 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1246871457 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahah < 1246871463 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest was sent in private session < 1246871468 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost crashed my mIRC < 1246871545 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to define variables with this bot? < 1246871555 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are they dynamic or whatever the word is < 1246871576 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c a = 33; printf("%c",a); < 1246871577 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1246871581 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1246871590 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a; a = 33; printf("%c",a); < 1246871592 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1246871595 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%i %i",sizeof(float),sizeof(double)); < 1246871596 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 8 < 1246871606 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is for a discussion in #gcc btw < 1246871623 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%i %i",sizeof(1.0),sizeof(1.0f)); < 1246871624 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 4 < 1246871637 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%i %i",sizeof(1.0),sizeof(1.0f+2.0f)); < 1246871638 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 4 < 1246871670 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c void a(float b) {printf("%i",sizeof(b));} void main() {a(1.0f);} < 1246871673 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]="f"}a = 33; printf("%c",a); < 1246871674 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1246871675 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1246871694 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]=70;} printf("%c",a); < 1246871695 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1246871703 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare i? < 1246871704 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int[100] a; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]=70;} printf("%c",a); < 1246871704 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1246871706 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c void a(float b) {printf("%i ",sizeof(b));} void main() {a(1.0f);} < 1246871708 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1246871714 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c void a(float b) {printf("%i ",sizeof(b));} a(1.0f); < 1246871714 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1246871724 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a[100],i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]=70;} printf("%c",a); < 1246871726 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P < 1246871734 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1246871738 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I doing < 1246871752 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a clue < 1246871767 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard this, I suck cocks < 1246871773 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1246871784 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';} a[99]='\0'; printf("%s",a); < 1246871785 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1246871792 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246871798 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';} printf("%s",a); < 1246871799 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1246871805 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';} printf("%s",&a); < 1246871806 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1246871808 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';} printf("%s",*a); < 1246871809 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 7197 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1246871818 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c *(int*)NULL = 0; < 1246871819 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 7242 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1246871820 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Declare a char instead of an int, maybe? < 1246871822 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c 1/0; < 1246871830 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';} printf("%s",*a); < 1246871831 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 7337 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1246871831 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1246871837 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';}a[99] = '\0'; printf("%s",*a); < 1246871838 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 7377 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1246871845 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';}a[99] = '\0'; printf("%s",a); < 1246871846 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1246871848 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use ints because I hate chars D: < 1246871850 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[100]; int i; for(i=0;i<100;i++){a[i]='f';}a[99] = '\0'; printf("%s",a); < 1246871851 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1246871854 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, ints will not work < 1246871861 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, ints work < 1246871874 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of 0x86,0x86,0x86 you get 0x86,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x86,0x00,0x00,0x00... < 1246871878 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in memory < 1246871884 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you print an int as a %c, it will just be the ASCII char with that value < 1246871886 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[1024]; int i; for(i=0;i<1024;i++){a[i]='f';}a[99] = '\0'; printf("%s",a); < 1246871887 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1246871890 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1246871892 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not with %s < 1246871899 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1246871900 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char a[1024]; int i; for(i=0;i<1024;i++){a[i]='f';}a[1023] = '\0'; printf("%s",a); < 1246871901 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1246871916 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int k;for(k=0;k<1000;k++){char a[1024]; int i; for(i=0;i<1024;i++){a[i]='f';}a[1023] = '\0'; printf("%s",a);} < 1246871921 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff < 1246871995 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("\nJOIN #gcc\n"); < 1246872007 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, didn't work < 1246872035 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("\\JOIN #gcc"); < 1246872036 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\JOIN #gcc < 1246872041 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noooo < 1246872056 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c gets(NULL); < 1246872061 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246872067 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("Hi!"); < 1246872068 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1246872080 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("Hello, world!"); < 1246872081 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1246872109 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("!swedish Derp derp I am swedish C"); < 1246872110 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish Derp derp I am swedish C < 1246872117 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1246872119 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish Derp derp I am swedish C < 1246872120 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derp derp I em svedeesh C < 1246872131 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they're the same bot < 1246872136 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1246872137 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246872141 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other bot as sveedeesh again? < 1246872152 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1246872153 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: wow i wudnt of guessed. the pilot, co-pilot, engineer and navigator, maybe she'll be able to take off instead of land why the hell out when i saw this footage does show promise... it looks pre-rendered. i believe the cause of this < 1246872158 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^language < 1246872162 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1246872162 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1246872169 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1246872170 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1246872175 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hello < 1246872175 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: the only reason i'd watch the documentary on this < 1246872181 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is because? < 1246872181 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: we all know this sounds a lot was riding on this on snl. andy, jorma, akiva schaffer, and it shows exactly that in france < 1246872188 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot in france what? < 1246872188 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: he's pretty amazing... and you didn't answer the question: how exactly can a ' go around < 1246872195 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("fungot, want to gay out?"); < 1246872196 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: wow that was a computer? look, now shes ok, farinelli... but i think senator clinton's management of the story of the company to fly < 1246872196 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, want to gay out? < 1246872199 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, i don't know how a ' can go around... < 1246872199 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: i'm a pussy by birth! i can't wait < 1246872202 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246872203 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1246872204 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246872215 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't the bots communicate :( < 1246872218 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIZZIE: Bug report. Fungot generates incomplete sentences. < 1246872223 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably set to ignore each other < 1246872227 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want me to bring toboge? < 1246872228 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish fungot, want to gay out? < 1246872228 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: as to how these were the people skills of a plane, knowing men, women and their children died as you always do--i've come to mine by consulting such sources as time changes to stop judging whats on the screen < 1246872228 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foongut, vunt tu gey oooot? Bork Bork Bork! < 1246872239 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foongut? lol < 1246872246 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid we have enough bots as it is < 1246872253 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("_o_"); < 1246872253 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :             | < 1246872253 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :            /\ < 1246872254 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1246872254 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1246872254 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/| < 1246872273 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1246872274 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo) < 1246872279 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fungot's current ignore-regexp. < 1246872280 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fuck you encul de tes morts de ta race de narvale putain de ta race de narvale putain de ta mere stizz would not pick up duke nukem trailer. < 1246872287 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1246872287 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1246872352 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "when to stop a sentence" thing is a bit arbitrary and pessimal. < 1246872395 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hello < 1246872395 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: the add about not wanting to go around it spose to be amazing < 1246872402 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just plain doesn't make sense < 1246872406 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, i don't understand you < 1246872406 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: i still love you nalts! your awesome!! < 1246872410 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1246872416 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, who is nalts? < 1246872416 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: it's not a large turbojet aircraft gets slow enough it requires more power but the computer wouldn't provide power, but i loved it. if you don't even like basketball stalled and crashed < 1246872422 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does HackEgo do? < 1246872433 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runs shell commands i think < 1246872438 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1246872439 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm-test \ asm-test.S \ asm-test.c \ bin \ busybox \ paste \ quotes \ share \ tmpdir.8417 < 1246872447 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1246872447 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1246872456 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do one-parameter commands with `command argument goes here < 1246872467 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or normal shell commands with `run command and arguments < 1246872470 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo !swedish bork bork bork < 1246872471 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish bork bork bork < 1246872482 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't the robots be friends :( < 1246872493 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo fungot < 1246872494 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: wow hes gay?" i believe you still you don't, etc. < 1246872494 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1246872534 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo a < 1246872535 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo a < 1246872559 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("`echo _o_"); < 1246872559 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                   | < 1246872559 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  /'\ < 1246872560 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo _o_ < 1246872560 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :       | < 1246872561 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :      /| < 1246872561 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1246872572 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'mon myndzi < 1246872575 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE HIM DANCE < 1246872594 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("`echo _o_"); < 1246872594 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                        | < 1246872594 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                        >\ < 1246872595 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo _o_ < 1246872595 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :            | < 1246872595 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :           /< < 1246872595 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1246872599 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1246872912 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flood protection < 1246872943 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How lame < 1246872955 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /o\ < 1246872956 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  | < 1246872956 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  >\ < 1246872965 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of person is /o\??? < 1246872965 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                         | < 1246872965 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                        /< < 1246872973 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is afraid < 1246872974 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One with floppy ears. < 1246872978 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting his arms on his head < 1246873004 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ _o/ _o\ \o\ \o/ \o_ /o/ /o_ /o\ < 1246873005 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   | < 1246873005 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /\  >\  >\ /|   >\ /<  /|   >\ /| < 1246873014 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|o| < 1246873014 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  | < 1246873014 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /< < 1246873031 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM LOL MAN < 1246873124 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host26-175-static.49-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1246873132 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hewwo from Italia! < 1246873155 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you... < 1246873160 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you the Italian VIPPER? < 1246873173 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246873256 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1246873261 0 :toBogE!n=toBogE@125-238-252-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1246873375 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!persist factoid load < 1246873390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1246873390 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1246873390 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All known commands: !bf !bf8 !binascii !chanlist !delregex < 1246873392 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!factoid !hello !help !irp !loadbfc !magritte !minimum < 1246873394 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!module !nil !persist !ps !raw !regex !rot13 !setprefix < 1246873396 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userlist < 1246873426 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help setprefix < 1246873426 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I have no help for setprefix! < 1246873426 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All known commands: !bf !bf8 !binascii !chanlist !delregex < 1246873428 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!factoid !hello !help !irp !loadbfc !magritte !minimum < 1246873430 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!module !nil !persist !ps !raw !regex !rot13 !setprefix < 1246873432 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userlist < 1246873442 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !c printf("`echo _o_"); < 1246873443 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                              | < 1246873443 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                             /< < 1246873451 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :205 +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>.<-.>+++++++++++++.++.---------.+++++.++++++.--------------.<++++++++.------.>------.>++.<+++.>+++.+++++++.<<--.>----.>.<.<++.+++++++.++++++++++++++++++.>>>-. [621] < 1246873470 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++[>+++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>.>.<-.>+++++++++++++.++.---------.+++++.++++++.--------------.<++++++++.------.>------.>++.<+++.>+++.+++++++.<<--.>----.>.<.<++.+++++++.++++++++++++++++++.>>>-. < 1246873470 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("`echo _o_"); < 1246873470 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("`echo _o_"); < 1246873470 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1246873471 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 /`\ < 1246873471 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1246873471 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 /| < 1246873471 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo _o_ < 1246873472 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1246873483 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1246873498 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is toBogE still old EgoBot or new EgoBot? < 1246873513 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot from a while ago < 1246873534 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely unrelated except for the name < 1246873541 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!setprefix C@ < 1246873544 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1246873544 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All known commands: !bf !bf8 !binascii !chanlist !delregex < 1246873546 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!factoid !hello !help !irp !loadbfc !magritte !minimum < 1246873548 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!module !nil !persist !ps !raw !regex !rot13 !setprefix < 1246873550 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userlist < 1246873584 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen !c printf("`echo _o_ fungot"); < 1246873584 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                              | < 1246873584 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: ht tp jeanclaudeboetsch. free. fr/ level of cod4 while on the screen!!! to cap it all, all of that plane < 1246873584 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                              >\ < 1246873587 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :288 ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>++>+++++++>++++++++<<<<-]>>+++++.>+.<-.>>.++.---------.+++++.++++++.--------------.<<++++++++.------.<--.>>++.--.+++++.+++++++.<--.<-.>>.<<.>.>>.<++++++.>++++++++.-------.++++++++.<-.<++.+++++++.++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------------------------. [501] < 1246873601 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>++>+++++++>++++++++<<<<-]>>+++++.>+.<-.>>.++.---------.+++++.++++++.--------------.<<++++++++.------.<--.>>++.--.+++++.+++++++.<--.<-.>>.<<.>.>>.<++++++.>++++++++.-------.++++++++.<-.<++.+++++++.++++++++++++++++++.-------------------------------------------------. < 1246873601 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("`echo _o_ fungot"); < 1246873602 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1246873602 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  >\ < 1246873614 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, still ignoring it. < 1246873632 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't robots love < 1246873697 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!regex repeat _o_ replace _o_ < 1246873698 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                |           | < 1246873698 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                |\         /'\ < 1246873702 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o_ < 1246873703 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  | < 1246873703 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /| < 1246873713 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delregex repeat < 1246873726 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!regex stuff stuff replace other stuff < 1246873727 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff < 1246873730 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delregex stuff < 1246873769 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?immibis < 1246873770 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis is my creator. < 1246873773 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?tobobe < 1246873774 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?toboge < 1246873779 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?me < 1246873784 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?#esoteric < 1246873784 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is a channel on irc.freenode.net. The topic is 'Esoteric programming language discussion | FORUM AND WIKI: esolangs.org | CHANNEL LOGS: http://ircbrowse.com/cdates.html?channel=esoteric | IRP in #irp | Don't spam the channel with EgoBot commands, /query EgoBot | Don't spam the channel with toBogE commands, /join #toboge | Don't spam the channel with bsmnt_bot commands, take him to your own channel. | Cong < 1246873801 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!raw join #toboge < 1246873832 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't that do anything? o.o < 1246873837 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!raw JOIN #toboge < 1246873842 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!RAW JOIN #toboge < 1246873863 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you just change the prefix? < 1246873883 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1246873889 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that why its not doing anythin < 1246873891 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1246873895 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw join #toboge < 1246873917 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@regex repeat \o/ replace _o/ < 1246873917 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                |           | < 1246873918 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :               /<           >\ < 1246873918 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot register regex < 1246873929 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@regex repeat \\o/ replace _o/ < 1246873929 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 |           | < 1246873929 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 |\         /< < 1246873932 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1246873933 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o/ < 1246873933 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  | < 1246873933 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  >\ < 1246873933 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1246873934 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/\ < 1246873941 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that looked messed up < 1246873947 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT MUTANT IS THIS < 1246873947 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@delregex repeat < 1246873977 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!persist regex load < 1246874002 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPRESSION < 1246874017 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*slaps head* < 1246874022 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@persist regex load < 1246874023 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cannot register regex < 1246874026 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPRESSION < 1246874026 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REPLACEMENT < 1246874028 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that @raw available for anyone? < 1246874032 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why that was in there < 1246874035 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1246874040 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for abuse < 1246874045 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874045 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874046 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874046 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874047 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874047 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874047 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874048 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874048 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874048 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874048 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874048 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874049 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874049 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874049 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874050 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874050 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246874051 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (@raw PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul )(~:SaSaS(:^)S):^ < 1246874053 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ps < 1246874055 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ps < 1246874055 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Process on #esoteric: ps (Thread-ID 19) < 1246874074 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol is it meant to do that? < 1246874077 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just thinking we're bound to have one loop sooner or later. < 1246874096 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it meant to quit i mean? < 1246874105 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ^c'd it. < 1246874116 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try @kill 1 next time < 1246874127 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try it over and over until you get the right timing < 1246874128 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly never < 1246874138 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on second thought, your way's better < 1246874152 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1246874160 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hehp < 1246874162 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1246874162 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All known commands: !bf !bf8 !binascii !chanlist !delregex < 1246874164 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!factoid !hello !help !irp !loadbfc !magritte !minimum < 1246874166 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!module !nil !persist !ps !raw !regex !rot13 !setprefix < 1246874168 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userlist < 1246874177 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that we've gotten the loop out of the way, I did the boring thing and added "toBogE" to fungot's ignore-list. Sowwy. < 1246874177 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: undefined variable ' nil'.) < 1246874180 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@irp Please repeat this sentence unless it has been said more than once before. < 1246874213 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that appears to make it join #irp, say the sentence and then part < 1246874222 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, not part < 1246874307 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found something called module_dollar_auction in the source... < 1246874314 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("( ? ??)"); < 1246874315 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ? ??) < 1246874318 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1246874343 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("( ゚ ヮ゚)"); < 1246874344 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ゚ ヮ゚) < 1246874348 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1246874350 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the time < 1246874357 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rape time? < 1246874361 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally! < 1246874365 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dollar extra, but who will I give it to? < 1246874365 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I'll auction it off! < 1246874365 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone who wants to play, say ME! < 1246874365 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 15 seconds to say ME! before the game starts < 1246874368 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME! < 1246874372 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh this thing < 1246874379 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now you can bid by saying your bid on a line by itself. < 1246874380 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$123 means 123 dollars. $1.23 means 123 cents. 123 means 123 cents. 1.23 means 123 cents. < 1246874380 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may say quit to withdraw from bidding. < 1246874380 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will announce the results when everyone has withdrawn. Start when I say. < 1246874382 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo! < 1246874387 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may start NOW! < 1246874393 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$0.00 < 1246874398 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$0.01 < 1246874406 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit < 1246874407 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis has withdrawn from bidding. < 1246874410 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now for the results. < 1246874413 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The highest bidder was: immibis. He bid 1 cents. He gained -99 cents < 1246874414 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis bidded -99 cents. He gained -99 cents < 1246874416 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to find out who won. The winner is... < 1246874418 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1246874419 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game finished. Module unloading. < 1246874425 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246874431 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You gained -99 cents! < 1246874437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this? < 1246874447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :auction bot? < 1246874459 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only auctions pretend dollars :( < 1246874463 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dollar extra, but who will I give it to? < 1246874463 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I'll auction it off! < 1246874463 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone who wants to play, say ME! < 1246874463 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have 15 seconds to say ME! before the game starts < 1246874466 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME! < 1246874467 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME! < 1246874468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, what esolang is it coded in? < 1246874478 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, now you can bid by saying your bid on a line by itself. < 1246874478 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$123 means 123 dollars. $1.23 means 123 cents. 123 means 123 cents. 1.23 means 123 cents. < 1246874478 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may say quit to withdraw from bidding. < 1246874478 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will announce the results when everyone has withdrawn. Start when I say. < 1246874480 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't but it interprets brainfuck < 1246874483 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore its allowed here < 1246874486 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may start NOW! < 1246874487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, okay < 1246874489 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1000000 < 1246874494 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1.00 < 1246874502 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quit < 1246874503 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis has withdrawn from bidding. < 1246874506 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now for the results. < 1246874508 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The highest bidder was: Slereah. He bid 1000000 cents. He lost $9999.0 < 1246874510 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis bidded 100 cents. He lost $1.0 < 1246874512 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah bidded 999900 cents. He lost $9999.0 < 1246874514 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to find out who won. The winner is... < 1246874514 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahah < 1246874516 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah!!!! < 1246874516 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game finished. Module unloading. < 1246874520 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your robot can't count < 1246874520 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is incredibly bugged < 1246874553 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll say < 1246874561 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when theer's only one person playing... < 1246874563 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scroll up < 1246874571 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the winner is !!!! apparently < 1246874582 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good for !!!! < 1246874583 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't remember when he wrote that < 1246874588 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :auction bot < 1246874641 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts netbeans < 1246874673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netbeans implies java < 1246874677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pukes < 1246874742 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does... < 1246874756 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it can easily load classes dynamically. < 1246874759 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-30.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246874773 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can add new commands (if i want to) and modules (also if i want to) without restarting it < 1246874784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, I made an irc bot in bash that could load and unload modules dynamically < 1246874789 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw join #bots < 1246874800 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd rather write an irc bot in bash than in java? < 1246874806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, yes! < 1246874817 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246874818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, http://envbot.kuonet.org/trac btw < 1246874853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, even fungot (written in Funge-98) can reload itself dynamically without restarting it. :p < 1246874854 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i assume that termite will behave uniformly on windows and linux port, but textmate remains exclusive for the mac < 1246874869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1246874883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it, with more or less work, in most languages < 1246874923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even do it in C. I can think of two ways to replace the "core". < 1246874927 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though admittedly it gets confused if there are too large changes in the structure. And it's so far not able to reload the "^style" listings without a restart, even though that'd be reasonably trivial. < 1246874975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) start a new process, send over the state and fds over a unix socket 2) use mprotect() and some other magic to rewrite the code in memory. < 1246875028 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each command is a class. When you need to execute a command, load it with a new class loader so it doesn't get the cached version. Simple. < 1246875049 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you can only rewrite the commands. < 1246875060 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irssi's "/upgrade" command -- to be used after you've upgraded the binary -- does that first one. (Well, I'm not sure what it uses to pass the state information to the child, but anyway.) < 1246875062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably require explicit reloading of modules for speed reasons < 1246875083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes, I remember some ircd could do it to reload the core... < 1246875096 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Maybe if you're processing hundreds of commands per second... < 1246875104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reloading modules in C you can of course just do some dlopen()/dlclose() stuff < 1246875107 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have a really slow computer. < 1246875118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess with AnMaster speed's a matter of principle. < 1246875149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, I assume even handling server messages like PING, numerics and such are reloadable modules? < 1246875160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, :) < 1246875161 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's handled in the irc library it uses. < 1246875167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc library? < 1246875168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246875184 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me three good reasons not to use one. < 1246875203 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perversity, esotericity and... fabulousity? < 1246875205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, that implementing the IRC protocol is trivial. Maybe 30-40 lines at most. < 1246875224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning a library seems a bit of a waste < 1246875411 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices that it doesn't actually reload commands each time < 1246875426 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Error ??? < 1246875427 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caught a java.lang.InstantiationException! toboge.Execer_Error < 1246875431 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1246875436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a library would end up with some API like: connect(Server, Port) -> SocketOrErrorCode disconnect(Socket) -> void getline(Socket) -> LineOrErrorCode sendline(Socket, String) -> ErrorCode < 1246875455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a parameter for ssl to connect() too < 1246875470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode doesn't support ssl though < 1246875485 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m.c=new IRCConnection(network,6667,6669,password,nick,nick,"Extensible EgoBot Clone"); < 1246875485 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : m.c.setPong(true); < 1246875490 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m.c.setDaemon(false); < 1246875490 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : m.c.setColors(false); < 1246875495 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :m.c.connect(); < 1246875495 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : m.c.addIRCEventListener(m); < 1246875512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis, ah right, you could let it handle the whole connection if you wanted < 1246875514 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trivial implementation is trivial. Certainly you can spend more lines, trying to interpret the 005 numerics sensibly and providing a more user-friendly object-oriented view of the IRC connection. < 1246875516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then it would need the nick too < 1246875532 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irssi's irc/core/*.c files hold a total of 9217 lines. < 1246875534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does OO view of IRC make sense? < 1246875548 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't make too much unsense, for one thing. < 1246875553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does that include the user interface and such? < 1246875557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1246875559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1246875560 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't very oop, it just has IRCConnections and IRCEventListeners < 1246875602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and yes interpreting 005, rate limiting sending and such could be added sure. < 1246875631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I guess you could let it handle replying to server pings < 1246875662 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it includes the "user interface" in the sense that there are implementations for all (directly IRC-related) "/foo"-style commands, which wouldn't really be part of a generic IRC library. < 1246875688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, formatting /who output nicely and such? < 1246875725 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that. But what to send to the server when a client does a "/who". < 1246875747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246875837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen at least one OO-style IRC library which took care of stuff like automagically remembering the people on channel (based on joins and quits) and so on. < 1246875871 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246875934 0 :toBogE!n=toBogE@125-238-252-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1246875949 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toboge has 3 languages you can't do much in (magritte, minimum, nil), one you can (brainfuck) and one you sometimes can (irp) :( < 1246875965 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, one more you can't (hello) < 1246875966 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello HH < 1246875967 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1246875968 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command (HH) encountered < 1246875968 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1246875976 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fail < 1246876007 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246876008 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!setprefix C@ < 1246876013 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raw join #toboge,#bots < 1246876015 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1246876016 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Told you < 1246876019 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO MANY BOTS < 1246876034 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon we'll be useless < 1246876038 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bots will replace us < 1246876058 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily be replaced by a fungot instance that has just been trained with only my own speech. < 1246876059 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and hanson explains why it works not. going via the main ' formula' twice, just because you're used to, but then when it takes too long < 1246876074 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246876113 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, could you replace fizzie? < 1246876114 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: that could encode any non-negative integer, is a relationship. yay < 1246876120 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, no really < 1246876120 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: no, they are all < 1246876129 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said no. < 1246876141 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish and hanson explains why it works not. going via the main ' formula' twice, just because you're used to, but then when it takes too long < 1246876141 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Just believe in yourself and you can do it! < 1246876141 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :und hunsun ixpleeens vhy it vurks nut. gueeng feea zee meeen ' furmoole' tveece-a, joost becoose-a yuoo're-a used tu, boot zeen vhee it tekes tuu lung < 1246876141 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how wasn't the weather? :) < 1246876156 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This just blew my mind < 1246876172 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246876428 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"OUCH!!!" < 1246876434 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246876686 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246876878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[Eliezer Yudkowsky (pronounced .Frankensteen.)]] <-- bloody americans don't know it's "frankenstine"? < 1246876945 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, oklodok!!!!! < 1246877209 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246877222 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodok! < 1246878408 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c2391BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246880317 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246881195 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246881986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1246882082 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246882085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1246882238 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.105.92.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246882269 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual LOL at "how wasn't the weather?". Gotta love fungot. < 1246882270 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: i just spent three seconds wondering why `data track' by `data track' by `data track' by `data track' wouldn't play from this cd < 1246882285 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was probably verbatim < 1246882286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246882292 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oklodok. < 1246882308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, too many "by data track" repeated there to make sense < 1246882310 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. The repetition wasn't verbatim. < 1246882311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: maybe not exactly that number of iterations < 1246882313 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1246882315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1246882380 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a wonderful thing yesterday night; let me load up my trans-computer bookmarking system: http://gmail.com/ < 1246882384 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: I love the quote "how wasn't the weather" too < 1246882415 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I'm going the other way round, I'm using my laptop as a cross-website email system < 1246882417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... vlc has an ncurses frontend... < 1246882426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally managed to set up my Yahoo! Mail account to be sane < 1246882435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ais523 why not use gmail? < 1246882450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I even really created it deliberately, it's just that both my main and secondary email have gone down < 1246882454 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's paranoid. < 1246882458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I happened to have a spare Yahoo! account lying around < 1246882472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I am; I'm only using Yahoo! as a relay atm < 1246882475 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Mplayer can use libcaca iirc < 1246882476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, why does he trust yahoo then? < 1246882482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't < 1246882485 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Theyre smaller < 1246882499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well right, but I meant as in a ncurses GUI for the playlist and so on < 1246882511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, haven't tried playing video with this frontend yet... < 1246882521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally muddled VLC with VNC then, and got confused < 1246882549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246882566 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go. http://www.smallbizcenter.info/magniwork.php?apid=A5M&apflag=1&gclid=CM7V14r9v5sCFd0B4wod6zhdEg&v=1. They claim literally to have a perpetual motion machine giving infinite free energy for $100 + $197 ~= $300. < 1246882570 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hilarious. < 1246882633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION imagines what a playlist on a VNC would do < 1246882634 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simpler link: http://magniwork.com/ < 1246882660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could use it if you were one of those schools IT people who goes around looking at what the students are doing < 1246882669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a VNC isn't really perfect for that < 1246882702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The weather wasn't sunny with occasional bursts of vacuum" < 1246882724 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-138.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246882740 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it constant vaccuum instead? < 1246882845 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. < 1246882847 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info" < 1246883128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a rather nice ncurses gui btw: http://omploader.org/vMXhrNA < 1246883131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and not vnc!) < 1246883720 0 :ehirdiphone!n=ehirdiph@91.105.92.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246883732 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, trippy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Fi1VcbpAI < 1246883860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're linking to a screenshot of a curses prorgam? < 1246883860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why were any cars driving on it by that point of time < 1246883866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes? < 1246883872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but curses is text-based! < 1246883882 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What we need is a VNC client for VLC, and to use it in the curses interface < 1246883884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely by now someone's invented a copy-and-paste-with-colour < 1246883893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not afaik < 1246883901 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMasterwhy were any cars driving on it by that point of time < 1246883906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's ttyrec I suppose, but it's not quite the same thing < 1246883908 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you serious? < 1246883933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, videos opens a X window with the ncurses frontend < 1246883941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess video interface is a separate parameter < 1246883945 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame < 1246883978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, there is probably another parameter for it < 1246883979 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :•••••€ < 1246883992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there is for alsa vs. oss for audio backedn < 1246883994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :backend* < 1246883996 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :•••••••••*****> an arow of bye < 1246883998 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1246883999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just haven't found the right one yet < 1246884000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1246884895 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1246884907 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-138.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246885034 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@host26-175-static.49-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1246885047 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1246885072 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-138.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246886140 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1246886705 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1246888062 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246888304 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1246892398 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77.100.194.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246893659 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1246894642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodok: I'm an undergrad student in Missouri. < 1246894975 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246896259 0 :Dartus_Clicus!i=4bc97330@gateway/web/freenode/x-1972920b094d190b JOIN :#esoteric < 1246896273 0 :Dartus_Clicus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Such as this one? < 1246896311 0 :Dartus_Clicus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....wow, there are a lot of people here < 1246896315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1246896320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome, anyway < 1246896322 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo. < 1246896380 0 :Dartus_Clicus!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see... I recognize Warrigal, ais, pikhq, and comex from ##nomic. ais was right, nomic and esolanging /do/ have a lot of people in common. < 1246896392 0 :Dartus_Clicus!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Darth_Cliche < 1246896405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also ehird. < 1246896494 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't notice him. ehird = tusho = zuff, right? < 1246896499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1246896525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Oerjan (who's not here right now) used to play Agora. < 1246896623 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the frappr map, pik, you live in Colorado? < 1246896630 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, epic winb < 1246896635 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*win < 1246896693 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and ihope is on here, according to the map. Another nomicer < 1246896718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to. Now live in Missouri... < 1246896735 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1246896847 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find ais anywhere on the map. I've check everywhere in both America and Britain < 1246896854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: I'm not on it < 1246896861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can deduce my current location from my email address < 1246896868 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1246896873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my old, currently-nonfunctional one, anyway < 1246896873 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1246896881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: ais523@bham.ac.uk < 1246896884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the domain name should be clear enough < 1246896887 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Birmingham < 1246896939 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, /another/ British person? Current British friends of mine: Kevan, ais523, Devenger (Scottish) < 1246896972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangers tend to be either British or Scandinavian, although there are a few Americans, and a few people of other nationalities < 1246897000 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scandinavian? < 1246897017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, one of the more surprising statistical tendencies < 1246897041 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a higher percentage of Scandinavian websurfers in one year than Americans < 1246897050 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Scandinavia is awesome < 1246897057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1246897062 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1246897068 0 :mtd!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1246897096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about the high proportion of Scandinavians, it's a lot higher than on the Internet generally < 1246897135 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of at least one Australian esolanger < 1246897138 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Morgan-Mar < 1246897150 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he invented Piet, Chef, and Ook, among other things < 1246897150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, also Malcom Ryan's australian < 1246897155 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who?? < 1246897160 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Who? < 1246897166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inventor of INTERCAL's threading and backtracking extensions < 1246897227 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend from San Seriffe who codes Brainfuck < 1246897239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone we know here, I wonder? < 1246897248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of BF programmers in the wild, though, so to speak < 1246897252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an addictive language < 1246897261 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't understand it. Ever. < 1246897286 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried taking tutorials. It doesn't help < 1246897295 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust vibration >>+++++<-----<(-)*128(+-)*10000 < 1246897303 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for ais523_vibration: 15.8 < 1246897304 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1246897312 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF joust is a bit different < 1246897312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :competitive Brainfuck < 1246897313 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot? < 1246897318 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to program, really < 1246897319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sport was invented in Agora, incidentally < 1246897325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and EgoBot's an esolang bot < 1246897334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Darth Cliche < 1246897337 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :121 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>>++.>--.+++++++++++++++++.++.------------.<<-.>-.>++++.---.------.+++++.---.>-. [462] < 1246897340 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's BF joust? < 1246897342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I think I mean is that there's no higher level to it than the BF < 1246897345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!brainfuck +++++++++++[>+++>++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>>++.>--.+++++++++++++++++.++.------------.<<-.>-.>++++.---.------.+++++.---.>-. < 1246897351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1246897362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 +++++++++++[>+++>++++++>+++++++++>+<<<<-]>>++.>--.+++++++++++++++++.++.------------.<<-.>-.>++++.---.------.+++++.---.>-. < 1246897362 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth Cliche < 1246897368 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas even in something like hello world, the BF acts on a much lower level than what you're trying for < 1246897388 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen This is a test < 1246897390 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :132 +++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>------.>-.+.>-----.>++.<<.>.>.<<--------.>>.<+.<++++.>-.+.>----------------------. [581] < 1246897398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages < 1246897405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1246897405 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1246897431 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf8 +++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>------.>-.+.>-----.>++.<<.>.>.<<--------.>>.<+.<++++.>-.+.>----------------------. < 1246897431 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test < 1246897443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>------.>-.+.>-----.>++.<<.>.>.<<--------.>>.<+.<++++.>-.+.>----------------------. < 1246897443 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test. < 1246897460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's strange, why did fungot add a full stop? < 1246897461 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fnord. sah to be victorious, to endure, to hold out, as i recall < 1246897466 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++.......... < 1246897466 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......... < 1246897467 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge_txtgen Hmm < 1246897470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it prints newline as dot < 1246897490 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98_txtgen Hmm < 1246897503 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mmH">:#,_@ < 1246897510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "mmH">,#_@ < 1246897510 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1246897514 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typo < 1246897515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops, missed the colon < 1246897517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "mmH">,:#_@ < 1246897518 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1246897525 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:#,_ < 1246897527 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>,:#_ < 1246897528 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahahaha < 1246897529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "mmH">:#,_@ < 1246897529 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1246897530 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a difference < 1246897533 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1246897538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I know, just my Befunge is a little rusty < 1246897542 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAA < 1246897548 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infloop < 1246897552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: that's an infinite loop < 1246897554 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I broke EgoBot < 1246897561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it kills infinite loops after a while < 1246897562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without output < 1246897576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... where's thutubot got to? < 1246897618 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how many people here are Ardorian? < 1246897630 0 :thutubot!n=thutubot@s1.normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1246897634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hello < 1246897634 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, ais523! < 1246897644 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+hello < 1246897645 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Darth_Cliche! < 1246897653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (This is a test.)S < 1246897653 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a test. < 1246897659 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ul? < 1246897664 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's ul? < 1246897668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload < 1246897673 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload < 1246897819 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul (:aSS):aSS < 1246897820 0 :thutubot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1246898133 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ul ()^ < 1246898152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: that's a no-op < 1246898160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a joke program in the original article < 1246898166 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh < 1246898308 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XCIX beer solum in parietis, XCIX beer solum. Take I down, obduco inter, XCVIII beer solum in parietis. < 1246898341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the sort of thing you'd do in an INTERCAL beer progrm < 1246898342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*program < 1246898352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it outputs in Roman numerals by default; if you want decimal, you have to convert by hand < 1246898377 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246898383 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just translating it to Latin < 1246898444 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm reading a guide on DECLENSION AND CASE, the most evil things in the world < 1246898576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1246898577 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE) < 1246898587 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore ^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|thutubot) < 1246898587 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1246898593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should make that thing persistent. < 1246898614 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just give up. We had a fungot-toBogE loop today. < 1246898614 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( display " fnord ( unsigned char) fnord " fnord un fnord ooff fnord. < 1246898793 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toboge? < 1246898805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously an EgoBot rival < 1246898812 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was here during the day. < 1246898815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that misses Lambdabot < 1246898828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and itself, although I assume that's dealt with elsewhere < 1246898856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ehird's replay bot, although I've forgotten what that's called < 1246898896 0 :Hiato!n=fdulu@dsl-245-10-200.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1246898898 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246898972 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was going through my old maths books (for exams/SAT's) and I found a nice little box that said "Thanks to ais523" under which my teacher wrote "Is that a formula? Show substitution". Heh, just thought I'd let you know < 1246898984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1246899083 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, oklodok!!!!! <<< hi oerjie! < 1246899091 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: oklodok! <<< hi again augie! < 1246899100 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Hi oklodok. <<< hello phone dood! < 1246899133 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodok: Darth Cliche! <<< Um... < 1246899158 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oklodok: I'm an undergrad student in Missouri. <<< okay, you just mentioned mit owns, so i checked. < 1246899190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I did? < 1246899197 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIT = Massachussetts Institute of Technology, not Missouri Institute of Technology < 1246899244 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :judicaster < 1246899247 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: Well aware. < 1246899266 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though we did try to get my school renamed to "Missouri Institute of Technology".) < 1246899319 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darth_Cliche: oklodok: Darth Cliche! <<< Um... <<< i copy paste actually messages and add stuff after the <<<, makes no sense if your client shows messages in some other way. < 1246899335 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, you were very eager to tell they use scheme < 1246899344 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless i misunderstood you. < 1246899372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was ehird... < 1246899380 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatt < 1246899393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Log reading fail. < 1246899402 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no memory fail < 1246899404 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : About the only thing we've got going for us is that our university system is pretty good – IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT. That's true, I'd love to go to mit. < 1246899407 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was you < 1246899409 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the recent thing. < 1246899413 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i asked about it < 1246899419 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought it was you who told me that < 1246899430 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i knew it already, but i thought it was you who told it then < 1246899464 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm referring to when i asked whether mit was good. < 1246899469 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't use Scheme any more, anyway. At least in the iconic 6.001 course. < 1246899498 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm thinking trying out the american unis after a few years < 1246899505 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c2391BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246899509 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them, maybe < 1246899781 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246899912 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1246899913 0 :MigoMipo_!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-30.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246899953 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MigoMipo < 1246900153 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, VirtualBox seems to have jumped from the 2.2 numbers directly to 3.0. < 1246900178 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1246900187 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in both senses < 1246900197 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which two senses? < 1246900215 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the sentence mean, and after that, what does the actual data mean < 1246900266 0 :Darth_Cliche!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1246900276 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean that they've been numbering their (recent) releases 2.2.0, 2.2.2, 2.2.4 and one would assume the next one would have been 2.3.0, but it is 3.0.0 instead. < 1246900281 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a cliche that guy < 1246900367 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, or 2.3.0 or 2.2.6, depending on whether they actually did anything special. 3 is quite a jump, and seems it's "only" because it now supports SMP for the virtual machines. < 1246900410 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some esolangs have even been known to do jumps like 1.6 -> 7.0 < 1246900435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc one ircd did something like that too. < 1246900440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot which < 1246900463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also 3D support. < 1246900466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware had their 4 -> 7 jump too. < 1246900479 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed fizzie would know what i'm referring to < 1246900481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware did it just for the sake of version expansion. XD < 1246900483 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D, schmee-dee. I don't believe it works. < 1246900501 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedHat was doing numbers like 6 or so, they had to catch up. < 1246900532 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i guess i have to admit my latter question made no sense. < 1246900542 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't realize it was about version numbers < 1246900645 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-138.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246900656 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still want an answer though < 1246900711 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want to know the meaning of the version numbers? < 1246900740 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to know what that jump signifies. < 1246900753 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the greater purpose beneath it < 1246900806 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Officially they just want to communicate the fact that adding SMP and some sort of better 3D acceleration support is such a major change that it justifies a new version number. Unofficially, I think it has to do with world domination. Most things do. < 1246900845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or getting in someone's pants. < 1246900881 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accept both. < 1246900993 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your pants. < 1246901009 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1246901020 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you sure it wasn't you who said they use scheme < 1246901027 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was ages ago < 1246901100 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess you may remember your lines better than me. < 1246901118 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't like misremembering irc conversations < 1246901242 0 :oklodok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the only things i remember without explicitly committing them to my memory < 1246902555 0 :judicaster!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :comex < 1246902923 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"underflow" < 1246904045 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246904337 0 :Zuu!i=zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1246908101 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246909984 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246910332 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Was it constant vaccuum instead? <-- vaccuum [sic] would be something like raining cows, i think. so maybe. < 1246910582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is the ehirdiphone anything like the gaffophone? < 1246910713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck wikipedia says that comics hasn't been translated to english! < 1246910736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more proof english speakers are really aliens from another planet < 1246910753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*comic < 1246910982 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-162-184-81.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246910989 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246911371 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : yep, also Malcom Ryan's australian < 1246911379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's also an ancient agoran < 1246911388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, interesting < 1246911407 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Blob") < 1246911424 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread "he's also an ancient algorithm". < 1246911557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills oerjan for telling the truth about the Anglo-Frisian languages < 1246911613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact have i have a vague recall that he may have been responsible for the special gender-neutral pronoun, as Blob didn't present as either male or female < 1246911626 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/have // < 1246911646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/recall/recollection/ < 1246911660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recall is the verb; recollection is how you noun it. < 1246911665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1246911685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :total recollection there < 1246911727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, English is screwy. < 1246911728 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: when did i tell the truth about the anglo-frisian languages? < 1246911747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1246911748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know when. < 1246911764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops channeling AnMaster  < 1246911775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ? < 1246911779 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in so doing, inevitably causes another ? < 1246911801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was hoping to get that comment in before AnMaster's < 1246911802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I was playing freeciv, did you want anything when you highlighted me? < 1246911809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I < 1246911817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm* going back playing freeciv < 1246911820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: only to have you act stereotypically < 1246911829 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: set your highlight to only higlight you if your name's at the start of the line < 1246911830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1246911834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid this sort of awkward moment < 1246911842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really ais523? Sure that is a good idea? < 1246911857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not sure, it depends on what you want highlighting to do for you < 1246911868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :varies. < 1246911870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's only comments directed at you, then start-of-line may be a good idea < 1246911875 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, _i_ am annoyed that irssi _doesn't_ highlight all instances of my nick < 1246911877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to know comments about you, then higlight everywhere < 1246911893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, I thought all IRC clients did by default? < 1246911908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be my skin < 1246911915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*theme < 1246911940 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i downloaded a simple dark on white one < 1246911981 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mostly highlights oerjan at the start < 1246912051 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilight_nick_matches = ON < 1246912056 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might do it < 1246912079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is on < 1246912092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just doesn't catch all instances < 1246912167 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`haskell putStrLn "What's an Asztal?" < 1246912167 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1246912184 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irssi's online option documentation really sucks < 1246912193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by sucks, i mean is nonexistent < 1246912251 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo doesn't have haskell afaik < 1246912256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1246912256 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm-test \ asm-test.S \ asm-test.c \ bin \ busybox \ paste \ quotes \ share \ tmpdir.28081 < 1246912262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1246912263 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote \ calc \ creatures \ define \ esolang \ etymology \ fortune \ google \ imdb \ minifind \ paste \ quote \ runfor \ strfile \ unstr \ url \ wolfram < 1246912280 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell putStrLn "What's an Asztal?" < 1246912282 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an Asztal? < 1246912284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246912286 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1246912304 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that highlighted me, but I don't know what setting does that < 1246912337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell interact.const$"What's an oerjan?" < 1246912338 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an oerjan? < 1246912352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no highlighting < 1246912399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell interact.const$"oerjan is an alien from the lesser Magellanic cloud" < 1246912401 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is an alien from the lesser Magellanic cloud < 1246912406 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that highlighted < 1246912409 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A manually set "/hilight oerjan" should probably match everywhere in line. < 1246912418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1246912511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the "-full" flag; "/hilight -full foo" highlights only where "foo" is a separate word. Though I guess in your case you won't get very many false positives from random words containing the substring "oerjan". < 1246912521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what about "oerjan" followed by space, but in the middle of the line < 1246912527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a question mark < 1246912551 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late i turned on fizzie's suggestion < 1246912603 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not using -full probably helps catching the alternate nick too, etc. < 1246912705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjanthere? < 1246912716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right, your nick isn't likely as a part of another word < 1246912741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that highlighted but with a different color < 1246912767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's just as well < 1246912806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1246913310 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246913625 0 :Zuu!i=zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1246913837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15:39 So, /another/ British person? Current British friends of mine: Kevan, ais523, Devenger (Scottish) < 1246913840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you too :) < 1246913873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:20:27 I have a friend from San Seriffe who codes Brainfuck < 1246913877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate to break this to you. < 1246913933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf . < 1246913938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. < 1246913960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:35:52 Darth_Cliche: that's a no-op < 1246913960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:36:00 and a joke program in the original article < 1246913962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a joke < 1246913972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the adder believed it was legit < 1246913976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see talk < 1246914011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:47:36 and ehird's replay bot, although I've forgotten what that's called < 1246914014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, optbot < 1246914037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:49:32 ais523: I was going through my old maths books (for exams/SAT's) and I found a nice little box that said "Thanks to ais523" under which my teacher wrote "Is that a formula? Show substitution". Heh, just thought I'd let you know < 1246914038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1246914074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:51:31 augur: oklodok! <<< hi again augie! < 1246914075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augie orgy < 1246914157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:16:11 yep, also Malcom Ryan's australian < 1246914157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:16:19 he's also an ancient agoran < 1246914158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:16:28 ooh, interesting < 1246914160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:16:47 ("Blob") < 1246914162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blob is an esolanger?! < 1246914168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we have our first non-human esolanger. < 1246914179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:20:13 in fact have i have a vague recall that he may have been responsible for the special gender-neutral pronoun, as Blob didn't present as either male or female < 1246914181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor human. < 1246914195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't agora used to use singular they before blob? < 1246914208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:22:44 * oerjan stops channeling AnMaster < 1246914208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:22:55 oerjan, ? < 1246914209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:22:59 and in so doing, inevitably causes another ? < 1246914214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: say "what?" in a while < 1246914222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, thanks, but no < 1246914230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1246914234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a momentous occasion < 1246914241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given blob joined within the first year of agora, if not even at the start... < 1246914248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik < 1246914262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*r < 1246914346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:30:51 HackEgo doesn't have haskell afaik < 1246914347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1246914349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1246914350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only egobot does < 1246914853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At a time when the public display and discourse about matters of faith have been under attack, a new poll indicates most Americans – 63 percent – believe the Bible is literally true and the Word of God." < 1246914958 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246915346 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246915709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 95% of statisticians believe most polls are flawed, and even if they aren't, the results are misrepresented. *ducks* < 1246915903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 95% of the time, they're right. < 1246916599 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃" < 1246916787 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1246916859 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1246916875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to store metadata in flac? Like composer and title? < 1246916894 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, though it depends on which container format you're using. < 1246916917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, just flac? < 1246916920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FLAC container format has a limited metadata format that amounts to a subset of Ogg comments. < 1246916927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the file is called *.flac < 1246916933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ogg container format, obviously, has Ogg comments. < 1246916945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can have metadata. < 1246916947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/mnt/phoenix/musik/vivaldi/track13.flac: FLAC audio bitstream data, 16 bit, stereo, 44.1 kHz, 9150456 samples < 1246916953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing < 1246916958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1246916968 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's FLAC in the FLAC container format. < 1246916987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, confusing... Anyway I need composer, symphony and movement. That's all < 1246916995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some command line tool to set them < 1246917006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I wish to import this from data I have prepared already < 1246917025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I plan to write a short shell script to automate the adding < 1246917050 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See metaflac. < 1246917060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not in portage? < 1246917064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ eix metaflac < 1246917064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No matches found. < 1246917075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's part of FLAC. < 1246917083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nobody uses ogg flac < 1246917085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone uses flac flac < 1246917089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses ogg metadata < 1246917094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, same allowable stuff < 1246917104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: don't name it "track13", dammit < 1246917117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was cdparanoia who did < 1246917123 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've used it when storing some intermediates from video compression jobs in an Ogg container. < 1246917124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I converted the *.cdda to flac < 1246917129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: *"cdparanoia did that" < 1246917138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes him! < 1246917151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"who did" is still a bad way to end a sentence < 1246917160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cdparanoia did that" is the only idiomatic way i can think of < 1246917164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so ehird corrects English again! < 1246917172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes I does. < 1246917189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1246917197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, s/does/do/ btw :P < 1246917201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1246917206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoosh! < 1246917218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was playing along. So whoosh is wrong :P < 1246917233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur a butt lol ^.^ < 1246917255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What language was that? < 1246917263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language of butt lol ^.^ < 1246917269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish I could use plan9 < 1246917270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... City of Ur? < 1246917276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why can't you? < 1246917276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll get a fileserver and put plan9 on it < 1246917293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: cuz i'm a filthy capitalist desktop user and i like lotses of applications. < 1246917305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could run it as a fileserver though < 1246917310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ maybe music server of some sort < 1246917326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could run mpd on linux backed by a 9p filesystem, perhaps < 1246917333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be nice < 1246917382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1246917388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, have you used metaflac? < 1246917397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No. < 1246917399 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use easytag. < 1246917424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's trivial < 1246917427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the flac website < 1246917448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the manpage. < 1246917456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: try quod libet as a tagger < 1246917480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh well... I just can't find the option to add a tag, lots of other options, like adding replay-gain, copying from other file, adding picture(‽), and various other things < 1246917491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although as a music player it lacks the fundamental feature of being an mpd client. < 1246917497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found it... < 1246917505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: use a gui editor, you'll be a lot calmer < 1246917507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to find a list of valid tags :) < 1246917509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, adding a picture = album art < 1246917511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is supported < 1246917514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ogg tags are freeform < 1246917516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to know the conventions < 1246917525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's two: TITLE, ALBUM. < 1246917533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for about 300 flac files from prepared tab separated files? < 1246917542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogg tags are freeform < 1246917544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure, if you do that with a GUI editor < 1246917545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :string→string. < 1246917552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this is standard < 1246917554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use TITLE for the title < 1246917555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, surely there is some "usual convention" < 1246917556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALBUM for the album < 1246917559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I forget all the rest < 1246917564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I'm telling you FFS < 1246917567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TITLE < 1246917568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALBUM < 1246917570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :others < 1246917581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I need composer, symphony, movement. Album? What? < 1246917590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......you don't know what an album is? < 1246917597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird,... yes < 1246917604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, doesn't make sense here < 1246917605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, google it. < 1246917620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be like: "Complete Symphonies, Volume 3" or such < 1246917626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1246917627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put that in < 1246917644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i suggest peeking at the source of http://easytag.sourceforge.net/ and seeing what it does. < 1246917650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or quod libet. < 1246917891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at another of the CDs < 1246917913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many cds are you ripping? < 1246917934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ~30 with classical music iirc < 1246917945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my own personal enjoyment < 1246917958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are all ripped and "flacced" < 1246918133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never metaflac I did like. < 1246918147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*didn't < 1246918152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You used flac --best, right? < 1246918175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc yes. This was about 1-2 weeks ago I did the actual ripping and conversion... < 1246918199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I used "did" instead of "didn't" because I didn't want to follow the norm :P < 1246918218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "did like" is invalid. < 1246918222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in context. < 1246918233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err why? < 1246918248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, not strictly invalid; incredibly unidiomatic. < 1246918253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds completely wrong. < 1246918266 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"#proglangdesign #ltu ##concurrency" < 1246918348 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1246918420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html btw < 1246918425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1246918428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1246918474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: right, just invent your own TAGS for things like MOVEMENT < 1246918527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, freedb tends to use something like: "Opus 3 - Allegro" or similar for it's title entry < 1246918537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not consistently < 1246918541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could do that, but it's evil :P < 1246918544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use FreeDB. < 1246918546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use MusicBrainz. < 1246918552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, sometimes it is in extra instead. < 1246918559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if cd-info could fetch from it... < 1246918568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use another program? < 1246918576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDB has utterly crap results and is totally unmoderated; MusicBrainz is correct to the point of extreme pedanticism. < 1246918586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it has a program that can tag FLACs, iirc. < 1246918589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, command line one that can just dump the stuff to a text file for all tracks of the cd currently inserted? < 1246918593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the way I use it < 1246918594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need that. < 1246918598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MusicBrainz analyzes the files < 1246918602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to determine what track it is < 1246918609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just set it on your directory of FLACs and it'll tag 'em all < 1246918627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Some sort of checksum? < 1246918630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ot < 1246918632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's < 1246918640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of weird proprietary thing they licensed from a huge company nowadays I think < 1246918641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how would it work for lossy compression like mp3 or ogg < 1246918644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's never wrong < 1246918647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's very magical < 1246918651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ton of heuristics < 1246918653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, open implementation? < 1246918655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never had it misidentify a file < 1246918659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: think so, yes < 1246918661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their stuff is open source. < 1246918667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :issue now: AnMaster said hi, but it was sufficiently long ago that I'll be nickpinging him out of context if I reply < 1246918668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/; go with Picard or sth < 1246918683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, since I don't like to upload a 16 MB *.flac < 1246918687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1246918689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it checksums < 1246918690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hah < 1246918692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1246918893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Classical_Music_FAQ :p < 1246919032 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: orgy? ok! < 1246919068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I tried easytags. How do you prevent it asking every time if I want to rename the file? I don't want to rename the file. < 1246919078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't find any setting for that < 1246919084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite messy to use. < 1246919181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Just use Picar < 1246919181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1246919184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: There's a "do this for every file" option in the checkbox. < 1246919187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set directory, click tag, get coffee. < 1246919191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. In the dialog. < 1246919202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no? Are you using ~arch? < 1246919207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm using stable) < 1246919210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1246919217 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am for some things, but not that. < 1246919280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or don't :P < 1246919400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to check out MusicBrainz. < 1246919405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, also easytag can't add non-standard tags it seems? < 1246919495 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Okay, so it's not all that great. Figure out MusicBrainz, and I think I'll do the same. < 1246919594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Figure out"? < 1246919600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install picard. Point at directory. Snore. < 1246919635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does it handle flac? < 1246919640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1246919642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, use another client. < 1246919655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be useful to know *before* installing < 1246919665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, typing "emerge picard" is soo hard < 1246919672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload < 1246919674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1246919674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_Tagger < 1246919679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1246919679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_Tagger#Documentation_for_Users < 1246919687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1246919690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1246919690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Picard_FAQ < 1246919692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it supports FLAC. < 1246919712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So install it, open the root directory, click it, click "tag" or whatever the UI is these days, and it'll all be filled automatically. < 1246919719 0 :darthnuri!n=nuri@cpe-66-74-43-92.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246919746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_To_Tag_Files_With_Picard < 1246919750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an explanation of how to use the weird UI < 1246919761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr — drag your directory to unmatched files. click cluster. < 1246919776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click lookup on the "cluster" heading. < 1246919780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wasn't it you who said that a GUI shouldn't need any documentation? < 1246919787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check they work okay. press "save" < 1246919788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila < 1246919791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it shouldn't < 1246919794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but picard has a bad ui :) < 1246919803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one-time operation though < 1246919809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for the majority < 1246919814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripping a cd, maybe takes 30 seconds extra < 1246919816 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1246919820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth it for the quality < 1246920012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ripping a cd takes a few minutes...? < 1246920022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does? < 1246920033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 seconds you said? heh < 1246920036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant using picard adds 30sec time to ripping < 1246920039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246920050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on if movement is in a separate field or not < 1246920059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1246920089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, since I prefer my own planned format for the metadata < 1246920102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then MusicBrainz is not for you and you have serious OCD problems. < 1246920103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where do I drag the files from btw? < 1246920110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the link. < 1246920111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running under xmonad atm < 1246920131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1246920133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I care? < 1246920142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you're going to mangle the metadata, don't bother. < 1246920145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll just be painful. < 1246920151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what would be? < 1246920161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:41 AnMaster: ehird, since I prefer my own planned format for the metadata < 1246920177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just hand-write them if you're going to do that. < 1246920178 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1246920180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can use a script to fix it? < 1246920191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as in, I already have it parsed in text files as I said above -_- < 1246920198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would seriously suggest against using MusicBrainz if you're going to change the metadata. < 1246920247 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-164-88.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246920259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm why? < 1246920286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Picard's whole appeal is "drag, click, done", and updating the metadata will be a bitch. < 1246920292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it IS updated from time to time.) < 1246920306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I could read it with metaflac and then rewrite it? < 1246920320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't likely I will run picard more than once... < 1246920321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea. Why not repeat what you said two lines ago?! < 1246920331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files will be moved afterwards soon again < 1246920335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/again/ < 1246920350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if it tries to remember where the files were next time it starts it will have issues. < 1246920355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1246920484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. after dragging the files to unmatched, I should click cluster right? < 1246920489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why doesn't anything happen < 1246920516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: highlight unmatched < 1246920518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then click cluster < 1246920522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did... < 1246920531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it just does nothing. < 1246920547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find out which step of http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_To_Tag_Files_With_Picard you deviated from and undeviate. < 1246920550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe it doesn't know the cd? if so, why not say it instead of just doing nothing < 1246920551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait for Picard to process the files (the names will turn from grey to black) and then click on the cluster button in the toolbar to cluster files into album clusters. < 1246920553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you wait? < 1246920559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you did drag your whole library right? < 1246920561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just one cd < 1246920568 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1246920582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, one cd. since it is sorted in the file system as one directory per cd < 1246920593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and they both have a common parent, I would assume..... < 1246920603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1246920625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nominate your ethos and organizational structure for the "Least Tenable To MusicBrainz" award 2009. < 1246920636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does, that is the "kraus" for the composer. Like this: /mnt/phoenix/musik/kraus/vol1 /mnt/phoenix/musik/kraus/vol2 and so on < 1246920722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, clicking "cluster" is just a nop < 1246920724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246920745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the files gray or black? < 1246920751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, black < 1246920755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did something wrong. < 1246920758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :named track01.flac and so on < 1246920764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they should be gray? < 1246920770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1246920778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why did I do something wrong? < 1246920788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the file I linked, follow it word for wrod. < 1246920789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :word. < 1246920793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I fucking did < 1246920800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No you didn't, otherwise it would have worked. < 1246920801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under 'View' enable 'File Browser'. < 1246920802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Select a directory or files and drag them to the Unmatched Files folder. < 1246920806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait for Picard to process the files (the names will turn from grey to black) and then click on the cluster button in the toolbar to cluster files into album clusters. < 1246920809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246920814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were black right from the start < 1246920815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1246920839 0 :darthnuri!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1246920849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are they supposed to be black right away? < 1246920859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a 400mhz processor? < 1246920866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 2 GHz... < 1246920870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yes. < 1246920873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1246920909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, cluster does completely nothing < 1246920991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they not move to the Clusters folder? < 1246920996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1246921002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they stay in unmatched < 1246921008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy a new computer that isn't broken. < 1246921023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, .... very funny < 1246921036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my conclusion: picard is either shit or has a very shitty UI. < 1246921040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WFM < 1246921046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1246921052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did something wrong, or your installation of it is broken, or your system is broken. < 1246921053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait For Make? < 1246921060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you've run into the AnMaster-is-using-me bug. < 1246921061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or picard is broken < 1246921075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that extremely unlikely, as it is both popular and I have used it personally. < 1246921087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is unlikely that everyone else is just hallucinating it working perfectly. < 1246921100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You prescribe too much value to your anecdotal experience. < 1246921121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uoM-PdJhtmk < 1246921126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe this screencast would help. < 1246921128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, want a screenshot after and before clicking cluster? They would be the same, pixel by pixel < 1246921212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, all examples have files which already contain *some* metadata it seems? < 1246921220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utterly irrelevant < 1246921220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in this case the files contain no metadata whatsoever < 1246921233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just click Lookup before Cluster, it seems. < 1246921237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CD Lookup, that is. < 1246921241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CD Lookup → Cluster → Lookup. < 1246921249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDocumentation#Basic_Picard_Documentation" < 1246921249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1246921252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not irrelevant < 1246921253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1246921294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, cd lookup is greyed out however. Should I have the CD inserted while doing that? Can't it figure it out from the files alone... < 1246921305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, highlight the files? < 1246921310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, done... < 1246921314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click CD Lookup? < 1246921319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean individually btw < 1246921324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, grayed out and tried it < 1246921330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sec. < 1246921336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: is Lookup grayed out? < 1246921346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no, but "cd lookup" is < 1246921355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press Lookup, then < 1246921368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, lookup says "no matches found" < 1246921371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each file < 1246921383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how useful. freedb has them btw < 1246921384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How obscure is this performance exactly < 1246921398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this conversation even about? < 1246921398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look it up manually on http://musicbrainz.org/; ur obviously doin it rong. < 1246921417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Vivaldi - The Four Seasons - City of London Sinfonia - Virgo Records - Recorded 1991 < 1246921424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: AnMaster is using every failing he has with a piece of software I recommended in an attempt to help him out to yell "fail" at me and call the software shit. < 1246921455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the fact that it doesn't seem to work seems relevant when deciding if something works or not... < 1246921504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. it managed to match some of the other files. To completely wrong CDs. Like: Das Licht der Phantasie (disc 1) - Terry Pratchett < 1246921522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, complete and utter fail if it misidentifies instead of saying "not known" < 1246921523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO < 1246921526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're certainly doing it wrong. < 1246921532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDB is the one that misidentifies and returns wrong tags all the time. < 1246921539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, never done that for me < 1246921550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because you live in opposites world. < 1246921580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246921598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, Vivaldi - The Four Seasons - City of London Sinfonia - Virgo Records - Recorded 1991 <-- I tried searching for various parts of that. But I can't figure out their search form thingy... < 1246921605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure if I searched wrong < 1246921607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very simple. < 1246921622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antonio Vivaldi for artist? < 1246921624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/search.html < 1246921625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all? < 1246921631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use free text. < 1246921643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/artist/ad79836d-9849-44df-8789-180bbc823f3c.html < 1246921645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it said "textsearch" for me in the url < 1246921645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vivaldi. < 1246921681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the album I have is not there < 1246921682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then grep "four seasons". < 1246921694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Then it's so obscure it barely exists... < 1246921697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know it is released 1991 < 1246921699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, add it. < 1246921719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do I need to create an account? If so fuck it, freedb has an entry for it. < 1246921724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll just use that instead < 1246921757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's funny; you chastise me for not reporting bugs to projects' BugZilla, which has an awful interface and requires registration with an email and you can't even pick your own password. < 1246921764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet a simple registration process to add to MusicBrainz is too much? < 1246921769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You truly are a fine hypocrite. < 1246921774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok, it manages to identify 5 tracks out of 15 on another cd btw. < 1246921781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm relatively sure you can pick your own BugZilla password < 1246921784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 incorrectly < 1246921786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: only post-registration < 1246921788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest not at all < 1246921794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, freedb has it < 1246921797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correctly < 1246921799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, that makes sense < 1246921803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically the same as using a confirm code < 1246921809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the confirm code goes in the password field < 1246921827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Right, and other OSs don't have the problems I had with Arch. < 1246921828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed. < 1246921832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet you still told me to report them. < 1246921852 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to report bugs anyway < 1246921856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, same < 1246921860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if nothing else, it gives me information on which projects respond to bugs quickly < 1246921875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, why can't they just import everything from freedb and merge it with their own index < 1246921879 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1246921880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would save a lot of troubles < 1246921886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because FreeDB's index is broken, mistagged and always wrong. < 1246921892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was created BECAUSE freedb is intolerable < 1246921908 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, formatting for tags is inconsistent yes. But apart from that it works perfectly < 1246921922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE MOST INCORRECT OPPOSITES WORLD I'VE EVER HEARD OF! < 1246921951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have used it for over 30 cds, it reported everything correctly, sometimes small typos yes, and sometimes inconsistent naming of tracks and so on < 1246921959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least it was always roughly correct. < 1246921967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to talk to you because you're patently ignoring what I say. < 1246921983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why does musicbrainz like to give a completely wrong result instead of saying "not known"? < 1246921993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT DOESN'T! FREEDB DOES! < 1246921998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it did... < 1246922001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want screenshot? < 1246922015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You generalise your stupid individual experience — that has never, ever failed to be incorrect and highly abnormal — to THE GENERAL CASE, because you're an IDIOT who doesn't understand statistics and has a penchant for breaking everything you use. Fuck off! < 1246922028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it actually works on one of the newer cds < 1246922035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none of the cds older than 1995 < 1246922042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried all new cds yet < 1246922053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most cds I have are from 1992 or older so... < 1246922071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works perfectly on my CDs from 1969 onwards. < 1246922076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is from 1985 for example < 1246922161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, care to look at this screenshot for example: http://omploader.org/vMXhucQ < 1246922188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is after using lookup < 1246922197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, you truly do lack comprehension of anything. < 1246922213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to talk in alien language now, because it'll actually improve my communication. < 1246922214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how does it not mistag here? < 1246922220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just asking that < 1246922226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gab flubb dirpmoglaaaaaaa tubadinoshçtok. < 1246922226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you claimed above it didn't < 1246922229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : IT DOESN'T! FREEDB DOES! < 1246922242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implied it never mistags < 1246922249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qüoỏnt’glubakk no idioten. < 1246922261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can you make ehird understand the issue? He seems dense today < 1246922297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fails for kraus too, giving wrong results < 1246922302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just fails at flac. not sure < 1246922306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have any non-flac to try with < 1246922308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If you're in the mood for honoring requests about arguments, please explain AnMaster what generalization means, and why "MusicBrainz isn't the one that mistags, FreeDB is" does not mean a total logical absolute, and how he's generalizing a few individual experiences (stupidly) to a whole, even though they're highly abnormal. < 1246922314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice. < 1246922346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in my experience, freedb works better than this picard at least < 1246922356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Album: [couldn't load album 5f26e407-763b-43f0-904a-0bff110ce3c7] < 1246922359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense < 1246922365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they are having some server issue atm? < 1246922367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1246922377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was a rather common cd. Enya < 1246922443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a best selling one iirc < 1246922472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, using "scan" works better it seems than "lookup" < 1246922485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is the difference, and why not tell me that that was the issue instead < 1246922496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'm not a Picard expert, I just use it and it works fine. < 1246922497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still misidentifies some, but not as many < 1246922498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just break everything. < 1246922510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do your files have any metadata in them before? < 1246922520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1246922525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually not. < 1246922530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246922532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while, but Picard hasn't changed since then. < 1246922696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, cluster directly works if there is already metadata in the files, not otherwise < 1246923039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Instead of using the above release-oriented and metadata-dependent lookup; Picard can try and tag your files 1-by-1 based on their AudioFingerprint. If you select a set of files in the left-hand pane and click "Scan", Picard will calculate an AudioFingerprint for your files and query MusicBrainz to find a Track that matches the PUID located from this fingerprint." < 1246923041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1246923052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the manual helps a bit, it is still missing one of them though < 1246923065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however. Your misdirections certainly didn't help ehird. < 1246923094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misdirections. I was trying to fucking mislead you. You really think that don't you? You think I'm some sort of fucking MusicBrainz Picard expert, willingly leading you into the caverns of failure. < 1246923107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unintentional misdirections of course < 1246923119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AN UNINTENTIONAL MISDIRECTION IS NOT! < 1246923353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the result is the same whatever you call it < 1246923370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, misdirection has to be willful. < 1246923393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, using easytag + freedb however also adds the year and genre, picard only sets title/artist/album < 1246923401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, wrong? < 1246923408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, at least for this example... < 1246923436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://musicbrainz.org:80/track/137a39a5-7afa-43ce-94ad-12995f07c6c5.html?tport=8000 < 1246923447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the track in question < 1246923464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is part of release http://musicbrainz.org/release/7b877a93-d7ce-4467-95b1-c13a194d5e4d.html < 1246923475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1246923483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, different dates for the different tracks though < 1246923491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some recorded in 1984, some in 1985 < 1246923495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then. < 1246923505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, according to the cd cover < 1246923514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and typing it in manually would have been faster... < 1246923539 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1246923714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, another thing that confused it: a re-release of a LP as a CD with some new bonus tracks. it couldn't decide which cd to pick from... < 1246923731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You live in some alternate universe where musicbrainz is simplistic and inferior to the accurate FreeDB. < 1246923733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ended up picking from a total of 4 cds. < 1246923746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it seems to be the case for the music I have... < 1246923808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org:80/album/b964c445-4bbd-485c-8b64-67dc43a32957.html?tport=8000 < 1246923809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org:80/album/a30b65a1-89c4-4820-b327-592821eda5a9.html?tport=8000 < 1246923811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, compare < 1246923813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck ^ < 1246923858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it ends up identifying some tracks from the first, and some from the latter. And they are all from that album yes. But there is only one of them afaik. < 1246923869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't cluster them. < 1246923874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you did, it would restrict to one release. < 1246923882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I couldn't because THERE WAS NO PREVIOUS METADATA IN THE FILES. < 1246923886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then cluster doesn't work < 1246923887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can cluster manually, retard. < 1246923898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not according to the docs < 1246923909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Drag, drop. And if it knows what CD it's from, it WILL cluster. < 1246923916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to look it up first. < 1246923918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right. But those two are the same cd < 1246923921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with two entries < 1246923924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is retarted < 1246923929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is equally well either of them < 1246923937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not retarded; different release variations. < 1246923959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter is Japan, as you can see. < 1246923962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? How do you mean < 1246923963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former is UK, Germany, Canada and US < 1246923969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Look at the bottom. < 1246923975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MusicBrainz separates all discs that differ. < 1246923977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. the stuff on the cd is exactly the same right? < 1246923984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1246923987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or do you mean the cover differ? < 1246923989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise the disc ID would be the same. < 1246924006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org:80/album/b964c445-4bbd-485c-8b64-67dc43a32957.html?tport=8000 lists several disc ids < 1246924006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246924014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1246924018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They differ, almost certainly. < 1246924027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how odd < 1246924055 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, one has a track "Oriel Window" too < 1246924058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine doesn't < 1246924067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go, then. < 1246924084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still it decided that one of the files belonged to none of the disks. It hated my track 02 < 1246924085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1246924093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just cluster 'em and do a lookup. < 1246924101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno how it's breaking so much for you. < 1246924105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, can't cluster before scan < 1246924109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scan is the only one that works < 1246924112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scan, cluster, then scan. < 1246924114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there is zero metadata < 1246924117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever. < 1246924158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also it still refuses to know that vivaldi cd < 1246924175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add it to the DB so that MusicBrainz has more bizarrely obscure things. < 1246924177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Kraus CDs < 1246924189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is far from obscure < 1246924198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's been a mistake. < 1246924204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I would have to learn their format. < 1246924213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and write it all in manually < 1246924220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier to just use freedb for that one. < 1246924221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a web interface and a specific wiki page for classical music. < 1246924228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, tl;dr < 1246924235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is also easy not to report bugs. do you really want to be a hypocrite of such high caliber? < 1246924247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is easy to report bugs < 1246924254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME < 1246924269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go through tedious bugzilla registration. fill in 500 fields, most of which you don't know. give detailed description. < 1246924270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1246924288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go through simple musicbrainz registration. skim over classical music guidelines. fill in just a few fields, which you know by virtue of having the cd. < 1246924290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, once you learn one bugzilla you learn them all mostly < 1246924299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is distinctly simpler. < 1246924303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most bugzillas has some "wizard" variant of reporting < 1246924323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, vs. use easytag < 1246924342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while it's UI is not very good either, it is not as confusing as that of picard < 1246924347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Then don't ever fucking get holier-than-thou at me when I have a problem, whine, and don't report it as a bug. < 1246924356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also it knows one of the four volumes of kraus music I have. < 1246924366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1246924374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have great skill at ignoring those very lines that show you to be a hypocrite. < 1246924409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a difference is that all bugzillas have basically the same interface < 1246924417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other bug trackers may not of course.. < 1246924423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, how hard is it to register? < 1246924428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, do they want my email? < 1246924430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all musicbrainz have the same interface. < 1246924439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: funny that. bugzillas require your email. < 1246924440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is only one, so not a valid argument < 1246924442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://musicbrainz.org/user/register.html < 1246924444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no email required. < 1246924444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not all, some < 1246924458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, can you tag it from inside picard? < 1246924466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you need to use messy web browser? < 1246924471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Picard is a program to tag your music library. There is a simple, clean web interface. < 1246924478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fail. < 1246924480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what? BugZilla has a crufty web interface! < 1246924493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, and you call my a hypocrite. < 1246924493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes it does. I use a command line frontend called bugz < 1246924493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1246924498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you still fail < 1246924508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a fucking command line interface to MB then, you shithead. < 1246924520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, *beep* *beep* < 1246924666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, funny thing: the times listed on the back of the cd doesn't match the actual track lengths exactly < 1246924681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7:01 says the cd cover, 7:05 says the computer < 1246924687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1246924696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. I have CDs that have two tracks' lengths mixed, and some with misspellings of the track titles. < 1246924698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Major label CDs. < 1246924708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All three from the same band; I wonder if it's a secret code. < 1246924710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is major label too < 1246924720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naxos is a major label for classical music < 1246924724 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1246924728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean major major label. < 1246924735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like? < 1246924736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in "is mainly known for releasing pop music" label. < 1246924740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1246924748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big whatever-n. < 1246924751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think I have any of that :P < 1246924758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor I.