00:01:17 "Many says “there are only weekdays, no weekends in TmaxSoft”11, but I recall that Apple also did so when it’s designing iPod. From today Tmax Window development team is given the vacation for a week… 07–08 04:xx PM?" 00:01:18 how lucky they are! 00:08:37 ehird: well, acid3 test score can vary. once firefox suffered from same problem. 00:08:52 mm 00:08:54 wonder how 00:08:57 and i wonder what web standard has to be sacrificed even in standard mode... 00:09:43 ehird: 100 won thing is just joking. they presumbly made new account just for demonstration. 00:09:56 :-P 00:10:14 lifthrasiir: btw acid 3 depends on certain handling of INVALID code 00:10:16 acid 2 too 00:10:21 so it's rubbish for measuring standards compliance 00:10:48 Except maybe HTML5 compliance. 00:10:55 (which specifies how you should parse invalid code) 00:10:56 ;) 00:11:05 Nah, that's just informative 00:11:12 HTML 5 can't regulate invalid HTML 5, that's ridiculous. 00:11:22 Just like XML can't regulate how you handle invalid XML documents even though it claims to. 00:12:06 ehird: while it also deals with invalid code, animation part of acid3 can be used for such. 00:12:43 mm 00:12:57 but anyway it is stupid to claim "good standard support" just with acid tests 00:20:46 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:46:52 -!- zid has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 00:47:17 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:54:29 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 00:58:58 First let’s view [Acid3 test page] with Internet Explorer. (Launches Internet Explorer 8) Okay, it failed with 12 [out of 100] points and… Shall we wait more? …Yes it scored 20. Then let’s view same page [with Scoutor]. (Launches Tmax Scoutor, and scores 98 out of 100) Oh… Let’s try once more. (Screen reloaded, in this time scores 99 out of 100) Ha, we made it to 99 points. (Ap 00:58:58 plause) <-- where is that quote from? 00:59:11 lifthrasiir's article http://cosmic.mearie.org/2009/07/tmax-window/ 01:02:35 -!- upyr[emacs] has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:02:45 -!- upyr[emacs] has joined. 01:02:47 -!- sgeo has joined. 01:05:25 -!- inurinternet has quit (No route to host). 01:06:52 I lost my only reason to use Windows as my primary OS 01:07:41 sgeo: You mean masochism? 01:08:23 lol 01:08:30 VirtualBox is working on 3D support :D 01:09:02 sgeo: s/is working on/has working/. 01:09:11 Note that it will never be as fast as a full Windows bootup. 01:09:25 Isn't Direct3D experimentally supported or something? 01:09:52 sgeo: the rest of the devices are still virtualized 01:11:35 ehird, interesting. 01:12:10 stinks of GPL violations. 01:12:27 yes. nothing will come of it though. 01:13:45 does 3D in virtualbox require hardware virtualization? 01:13:51 AnMaster: it's impressive that it runs big windows programs better than wine and reactos though. especially with such a timescale. 01:13:58 also, i think you just install a driver 01:14:05 hm 01:14:06 that talks to the host's driver 01:14:14 of course you have to bridge it via the vm 01:14:23 but that's a tiny overhead 01:15:02 ...faster than ReactOS? How? 01:15:13 Does ReactOS suck or something? 01:15:20 I said better. 01:15:26 It runs IE and Word with only minor glitches. 01:15:29 ReactOS cannot do that. 01:15:36 But yes, ReactOS sucks; so much time, so little results. 01:15:50 ...glitches? In a VM? 01:15:55 does reactos reuse code from wine and vice verse? 01:16:02 err... 01:16:08 sgeo: I'm talking not of VirtualBox, silly. 01:16:10 sgeo, go read logs 01:16:13 I am talking of tmax. 01:16:17 http://cosmic.mearie.org/2009/07/tmax-window/ 01:16:27 AnMaster: I think they share some code. 01:18:02 much of the user space code could probably be shared 01:21:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortinet#Controversies "It has been said by 125 people DEFTA causes too much drama and should be closed down, though sources have not confirmed this." <-- that seems completely out of context. Wiki spam I guess? 01:21:51 right, last revsion 01:22:35 guys 01:22:42 let's invest $40,000 into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAt2xD1L8dw 01:22:47 the models are of amazing quality, wow 01:23:02 omg 01:23:04 it was made in under 4 hours 01:25:10 Now, have it able to to electronics and I'll be happy 01:25:39 malcontent. 01:25:45 it can't print a pony either. 01:27:58 "Just like any other printer" except for taking hours and not minutes >.> 01:28:33 And yes, not printing ponies is a problem 01:28:35 lol 01:28:54 sgeo: Cry me a fucking river. It prints a great-looking, coloured 3D object that looks like something you'd buy in the store and you can make it shiny and nice, with barely any maintenance, in less than four hours. 01:28:59 Any complaining over that is just ridiculous 01:29:36 I know, I just like complaining 01:29:38 >.> 01:29:45 reprap will be able to print electronics in the future 01:29:47 (not usually, don't know what's with me now) 01:29:51 not as good looking models though 01:30:10 Screw form! Long Live Function, Down With Form! 01:30:21 sgeo, I agree 01:30:25 I always agreed 01:30:27 to that 01:30:48 Form is function in a lot of cases. 01:30:58 For instance, in, say, a glass. 01:31:06 "You can say good-bye to... dangerous baths" 01:31:08 yes... 01:31:09 Sure, you could easily use an ugly, reprapped, white thing. 01:31:23 Or you could buy one made out of real glass that doesn't look like play-dough. 01:31:26 Then they say you can put the object in some sealant thing 01:31:32 Anything that can be more like the latter with the qualities of the former... 01:31:36 sgeo: Watch on. 01:31:40 It's just painting it. 01:31:44 Basically. 01:32:44 ehird, it uses the powder as the support thingy for overhanging structures? 01:33:03 and? 01:33:13 ehird, it was a question if that was what happened... 01:33:18 dunno. 01:34:14 probably works by sintering then 01:34:39 all i know is i looks amazing and I want one :) 01:34:40 * AnMaster ponders local sintering using a laser 01:34:48 AnMaster: nope 01:34:51 sintering makes ceramics 01:34:59 # Selective laser sintering, a rapid prototyping technology. 01:35:00 hm 01:35:01 maybe 01:35:06 ehird, you could use the same thing for plastic powder I'm quite sure 01:35:09 Selective laser sintering is an additive manufacturing technique that uses a high power laser (for example, a carbon dioxide laser) to fuse small particles of plastic, metal, ceramic, or glass powders into a mass representing a desired 3-dimensional object. The laser selectively fuses powdered material by scanning cross-sections generated from a 3-D digital description of the part (for example from a CAD file or scan data) on the surface of a powder bed 01:35:12 . After each cross-section is scanned, the powder bed is lowered by one layer thickness, a new layer of material is applied on top, and the process is repeated until the part is completed. 01:35:15 yeah that seems it 01:35:22 doesn't require support structures it says 01:35:49 ehird, yeah, because the non-melted powder acts as a support structure already 01:35:51 I could make action figures for my hypothetical kids without buying them in stores! 01:36:03 -!- upyr[emacs] has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:36:15 sgeo: that's the furthest your thought process goes?! 01:36:21 ehird, the trick is getting it smooth and such. That isn't easy. 01:36:26 i'm thinking more on the lines of printing kids! 01:36:35 AnMaster: the object they show seems exceptionally smooth 01:36:42 ehird, yes... 01:36:54 ehird, very thin layers + good examples I guess ;) 01:36:59 The object they show looks ray-traced >.> 01:37:16 AnMaster: 400dpi it says 01:37:27 I can't think in non-metric 01:37:34 how many dots per cm is it 01:37:38 are you serious? 01:37:41 Nobody says dots per cm. 01:37:51 AnMaster: an inch is abotu this big: | | 01:37:53 *about 01:38:04 it's a very intuitive size 01:38:14 Could you make spare parts with this thing? 01:38:16 ehird, about 2.5 cm? 01:38:19 I measured on screen 01:38:30 AnMaster: 2.54cm exactly. 01:38:42 ehird, you were lucky when you guessed my font size 01:38:43 :P 01:38:58 it's probably about the width your thumb and... next-to-thumb make when you try and show someone what "a small distance" is 01:39:08 AnMaster: font size + dpi 01:39:12 ehird, thumb is wider? 01:39:18 i just went a bit over an inch for me 01:39:24 AnMaster: you have big hands 01:39:28 and i meant 01:39:29 distance 01:39:32 between thumb and ntt 01:39:37 ehird, I have mentioned both dpi and font size before iirc 01:39:42 yes, I know 01:39:47 and you also know which font 01:39:55 i just eyeballed it 01:40:01 heh 01:40:36 anyway, is it 400 layers per inch too? 01:42:15 who knows. 01:42:20 ehird, the interesting part here is the colour I think 01:42:25 for less than $40k it's a steal 01:42:51 theory: basic SLS, but before sintering drop down some ink in the powder. 01:43:01 * ZPrinter 310 Plus (monochrome, affordable, easy to use) 01:43:01 * ZPrinter 450 (full color, automated, office friendly) 01:43:02 result: ink is merged with the plastic basically 01:43:03 * Spectrum Z510 (high resolution, premium color, large size) 01:43:05 * ZPrinter 650 (best-in-class, largest models, highest resolution, best color) 01:43:07 let's get 650! 01:43:09 AnMaster: they tell you it's inkjet 01:43:09 http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html 01:43:13 sgeo: old 01:43:15 I HATE THE CLOUD! 01:43:22 ehird, yes... 01:43:25 I AM ANTI-CLOUD 01:43:32 ehird, I watched it 01:43:33 sgeo: EXPRESS YOUR OPINION WITH ALL CAPITALS PLEASE 01:43:35 AnMaster: :p 01:43:38 -!- sgeo has changed nick to SGEO. 01:43:45 ehird, I was just wondering *how* the ink works 01:43:51 meh the 650 just looks like a souped up 450, lame 01:43:55 AnMaster: yeah 01:44:07 AnMaster: http://www.zcorp.com/en/Products/3D-Printers/ZPrinter-450/spage.aspx has images of objects 01:44:07 ehird, what do they cost? 01:44:25 Seriously, why should sensitive data be given to large corportations like Google? 01:44:29 `calc 39,000 $ in sek 01:44:30 39 000 US$ = 312 292.306 Swedish kronor 01:44:32 AnMaster: roughly. 01:44:44 SGEO: don't you use gmail? 01:44:50 yes, you do, so stop talking now. 01:45:02 ehird, ... I think I will go for reprap instead ... 01:45:12 AnMaster: y'know, it IS for corporations 01:45:16 AnMaster: anyway for the capabilities that's a great price 01:45:19 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 01:45:22 Seriously, why should sensitive data be given to large corportations like Google? <-- I agree 01:45:23 and 01:45:24 reprap isn't even in the same league really 01:45:28 I haven't used gmail for ages 01:45:30 it's like pentium pro vs xeon cluster 01:45:38 I used to use it for some mailing list. gentoo-amd64 iirc 01:45:50 something which was already public anyway 01:45:52 the "cloud" can be good. it can be bad. 01:46:05 never for anything personal 01:46:05 ehird, agreed 01:46:05 it really varies. 01:46:07 having one opinion and sticking to it without considering it case by case is merely religion. 01:46:16 ehird: Pentium Pro *on FPGA* vs. Xeon cluster. 01:46:30 pikhq, heh :) 01:46:36 I'm ok with the cloud for non-sensitive stuff 01:46:36 could that be done? 01:46:43 AnMaster: why not? 01:46:43 I mean... Pentium Pro on FPGA 01:46:48 perfectly possibl 01:46:49 e 01:46:58 Assuming a sufficiently large FPGA, sure. 01:47:02 pikhq: 8086 on FPGA 3d-scanned and the region of space emulated by a computer based on fans, grills, gates and plastic balls flying around 01:47:04 I WIN 01:47:07 ehird, yeah I guess Pentium Pros are slow enough to handle 01:47:14 — talk about fan noise eh — 01:47:19 AnMaster: the speed doesn't make it a pentium pr 01:47:20 o 01:47:28 but no, an fpga will not match even pentium speeds. 01:47:36 oh well 01:47:45 ehird: It will match the bottom of Pentium's speed. 01:47:48 http://www.zcorp.com/images/173_008.jpg ← This is what people use 3D printers for: to make hi-tech dildos. 01:47:51 Dildii. Dildae. 01:47:53 They made 75 Mhz Pentiums. 01:48:03 75Mhz would be one hefty fpga 01:48:19 Yes, but you can obtain FPGAs that can do that. 01:48:27 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 01:48:36 iirc there are 100 MHz FPGAs even 01:48:58 but I think the limit is somewhere around there, unless things changed since I last looked 01:49:17 why y'all propagating the mhz myth 01:49:18 http://www.zcorp.com/images/173_008.jpg ← This is what people use 3D printers for: to make hi-tech dildos. <-- what is it *really* supposed to be? 01:49:23 AnMaster: no idea. 01:49:43 ehird: Elaborate. 01:49:53 pikhq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth 01:50:07 it's a meaningless way to measure speed 01:50:17 I know of it, yes. What the *fuck* does it have to do with anything in this circumstance? 01:50:34 Megahertz is not being used as a speed of computation, it's being used as a measure of clock cycles. 01:51:03 Specifically, whether or not an FPGA can offer a clock speed that an ASIC Pentium had. 01:51:37 ehird, you can see it isn't perfectly smooth in http://www.zcorp.com/en/imagesets/52/show.aspx 01:51:47 pretty good yes but... 01:52:45 AnMaster: that one hasn't got the paint thing on i think 01:52:59 pikhq: we were talking about speed; you mentioned clock speed 01:53:02 the two are not directly related. 01:53:07 AnMaster: but it's good enough 01:53:21 ehird, so is reprap for some things ;P 01:53:27 yeah but no 01:53:55 ehird, I hope you won't call http://www.zcorp.com/en/imagesets/58/show.aspx "smooth" 01:54:18 that is a matte and rough finish 01:54:27 it's not smooth, but it looks nice. 01:54:34 you could easily, as I said, make it smooth 01:54:41 ehird, sand paper? 01:54:54 lol if you want 01:55:05 ehird, what else 01:55:10 see the video. 01:55:18 ehird, I saw 01:55:25 ehird, which part of it did you mean 01:55:42 the bit where they coat the thing with some stuff and it looks all shiny 01:56:01 ehird, that is some color fixation thing and glossy thing 01:56:13 but it doesn't make the item less *rouge*, just glossy 01:56:21 right well use some other stuff on the thing so it looks more like thingy 01:56:24 ("ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded") 01:56:45 ehird, yeah, like sandpaper ;P 01:56:47 ("what i'd do, is just like, like, you know, like, you know what i mean like" etc) 01:57:51 ehird, what would happen if you wanted to make a sealed plastic bubble? You can't 01:58:11 nor a living, breathing pony that loves you 01:58:12 why? Because you won't get the powder out of it 01:58:25 make it, get powder out, seal it 01:58:34 I'm prettu sure reprap could do it 01:58:40 no 01:58:44 reprap cannot produce complex shapes 01:58:45 they fall apart 01:58:47 you have to solder shit together 01:58:51 ehird, err it can 01:58:55 you are wrong 01:58:58 sry 01:59:02 ehird, I seen it on their web-site 01:59:03 you have to do a lot of soldering to make stuff with reprap 01:59:08 AnMaster: yes. those are soldered 01:59:16 http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/7/1/87109256baca5c0b5728fac15ed20220.png ← [.,.] it's a smiley! 01:59:35 ehird, where does it mention that 01:59:40 and how do you solder them 01:59:52 and yes, reprap based on sintering would be nice 01:59:59 AnMaster: google it or whatever, and with a soldering iron. 02:00:00 since that technology works pretty well 02:00:04 -!- inurinternet has joined. 02:00:06 get the two pieces, put them together, solder, done. 02:00:26 ehird, it can do temp support structures 02:00:34 lol 02:00:38 but I don't think such a ball would need it. 02:00:42 AnMaster: please, stop showing your ignorance of reprap 02:00:50 it cannot do non-trivial structures 02:01:19 ehird, examples of soldered ones on their website. I know one. A flyswatter too large to *fit in the machine* 02:01:26 which isn't "complex", just "large" 02:01:43 you asked for it: 02:01:46 sec 02:01:49 yes I did 02:02:39 http://reprap.org/pub/Main/ItemsMade/shoes-small.jpg ← three parts, soldered together 02:02:41 there's more 02:02:42 basically 02:02:49 anything that hovers over something else 02:02:49 like 02:02:51 you can do 02:02:53 |_| 02:02:55 but not 02:02:57 |=| 02:03:00 where = is further apart 02:03:03 you need to solder 02:03:05 otherwise it fails 02:03:13 hm, isn't it because of size? 02:03:30 but ok 02:04:31 no 02:04:36 ehird, reprap uses FDM instead of SLS. 02:04:39 reprap cannot do non-trivial shapes, as I said 02:04:49 ehird, why? 02:04:58 AnMaster: here's what will happen: 02:04:59 and where does it say 02:05:15 not on their front marketing pag. 02:05:15 e 02:05:20 ask pikhq if you want non-ehird verification 02:05:51 ehird, he said it today? 02:05:59 I said "ask". 02:06:03 ah 02:06:07 I misread 02:06:27 "Help protect yourself against viruses and spam" <-- from an MSN TV demo thing 02:06:32 http://www.msntv.com/pc/experience/ 02:07:04 AnMaster: http://pastie.org/539475.txt?key=g6pcpbtzaxvxfx3ixb8veq 02:07:44 ehird, yes.. that is why there is the second nozzle to add support material to be able to do that. 02:07:52 /shrug 02:07:57 I only speak from reading the user made objects. 02:08:23 12. This agreement will be governed by the laws of British Columbia, Canada. 02:08:23 13. You may not use the service if you are a citizen or resident of Canada. 02:08:25 —tarsnap terms of conditions 02:08:30 ( https://beta.tarsnap.com/terms-why.html#NOCANADIANS ) 02:08:39 err 02:08:41 wut 02:08:45 AnMaster: see my link 02:08:47 sales tax issues 02:08:53 that don't exist when selling to people abroad 02:09:02 it IS in paid beta, after all 02:09:14 (tarsnap is an encrypted backup service using amazon's S3 storage service that powers amazon.com) 02:09:26 (by Colin Percival, cryptography & BSD extraordinaire) 02:09:54 ($0.30 per 1gb per month storage, same for bandwidth. good deal) 02:09:58 tarsnap? 02:10:02 SGEO: see above 02:10:16 (S3 charges $0.15 per 1gb per month storage, dunno about bandwidth) 02:10:28 (but lacks the nice backup client, cryptography code, incremental stuff, etc etc etc) 02:19:41 Buh bye. 02:21:12 ehird: You remember the crazy uber-build? 02:21:22 ... 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an inkjet printing system. Layers of a fine powder (plaster, corn starch, or resins) are selectively bonded by "printing" an adhesive from the inkjet printhead in the shape of each cross-section as determined by a CAD file. This technology is the only one that allows for the printing of full colour prototypes. It is also recognized as the fastest method." 16:43:32 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing 17:03:13 -!- FireFly has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 17:24:40 -!- FireFly has joined. 17:34:55 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 19:02:40 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:09:27 18:21:22 ... There's now six-core Opterons. 19:09:34 pikhq: there are eight-core Nehalem-EXs. 19:10:15 pikhq: "Nehalem-EX will provide tremendous scalability, from large-memory two-socket systems through eight-socket systems capable of processing 128 threads" 19:10:28 8x8 = 64 cores. 19:11:16 ehird: Shipping now? 19:11:39 With the price of the uberrig? You could pay them to ship now. They have, however, been demonstrated. http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20090526comp.htm 19:11:44 That six-core Opteron is on sale right now. 19:11:52 $700 a chip. 19:12:02 So what? Feasibility is not a goal of the uber rig. 19:12:05 (8-core coming out in $SOON) 19:13:27 -!- augur has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:13:36 We should remake the uberrig focusing on performance instead of price; it got a bit the silly with the "adding 40,000 harddrives" thing. 19:14:49 More DDR3 is required. 19:15:00 actually six-core for $600 is pretty reasonable, the alternative would be picking multiple machines with dual/quad which would cost a bit more 19:15:17 icefox: O RLY? You have clearly not seen our 8-processor system. 19:15:36 :) 19:15:42 $5,600 for CPUs. :D 19:15:56 Also, how many gigs of RAM? 256G? 19:16:00 pikhq: I'm thinkin' a 2xNehalem Xeon system with, oh, 128GB of RAM? You can get 4GB sticks of DDR3, they're just über-expensive. 19:16:06 Also, it was 128. 19:16:07 I think. 19:16:25 Can't you get 4xNehalem systems now? 19:16:31 Nah, not yet 19:16:41 Although I retract my previous criticism of hyperthreading 19:16:47 all the benchmarks show it can almost double performance 19:16:50 I haven't seen it be slower 19:17:05 pikhq: Oh, and 4xASUS Mars in Quad-SLI. What's an ASUS Mars? Two GTX 285s (the best single gaming GPU on the market) stuck together. 19:17:05 Hmm. Guess Intel decided to stick enough cache in those chips, then. 19:17:28 8 GPUs, bitch. Talk about number crunching. 19:18:05 It's even "Limited Edition". 19:18:14 pikhq: Oh, and it has 4GB of graphics memory. 19:18:24 What's that, Quadro and Tesla? You thought you could maybe beat it with RAM? 19:18:26 How cute! 19:18:35 (That's a single card) 19:18:50 16GB of graphics memory in total. That's more than the RAM I'm putting in my new rig... 19:19:25 Would you say 18x DDR3 slots is a good idea? :P 19:19:47 Bah, that's it, I'm opening a new window on the 'egg. 19:19:59 Time to drool over exorbitant amounts of money. 19:20:18 pikhq: it's questionable whether we even need to bother with hard drives :-D 19:20:39 pikhq: we could have one of those PCIe SSDs, and use a few SATA SSDs in RAID-0 to just get a driver and boot into them 19:21:17 It appears difficult to get a mobo with 4 PCIe x16 slots. 19:21:25 pikhq: Meh, we can sort that out later. 19:21:33 pikhq: 18x DDR3 sounds nice; would be nice to have more but oh well 19:21:47 If we can find 8GB sticks of DDR3 that's 144GB 19:21:52 Dunno if we can though 19:22:04 pikhq: massively more ram won't really help performance appreciably in a lot of things 19:22:13 past like 100GB it'll just be minor 19:22:51 pikhq: Do you think you can get PCIe expansion cards? 19:23:00