< 1248652875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :eli_yt < 1248652879 0 :eli_yt!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1248652907 0 :eli_yt!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :eli_yt`xyrd < 1248652916 0 :eli_yt`xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ is ",", ` is "." < 1248652917 0 :eli_yt`xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248652919 0 :eli_yt`xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's reverse that < 1248652923 0 :eli_yt`xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :eli`yt_xyrd < 1248652977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we go.. recompiling xchat... < 1248653002 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliöt höördi < 1248653014 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.catholic-tube.com/ < 1248653045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so getting oklotube < 1248653076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :videos about me, supplied by you and your friends. < 1248653079 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: …Convert Obama. < 1248653080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks ehird will find the lead story there suitable wtf :D < 1248653080 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really now. < 1248653085 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, snap. < 1248653092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ly < 1248653094 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prays to turn Obama into an atheist. < 1248653095 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1248653096 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1248653107 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, how do you set up an opposing movement to that? :-) < 1248653146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eli`yt_xyrd: an atheist would use the placebo effect for that purpose, i think < 1248653153 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is obama? < 1248653160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :religion-wise < 1248653163 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: some us black guy < 1248653168 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: uhh i think just like < 1248653169 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncatholic < 1248653171 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1248653173 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up < 1248653175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anticatholic < 1248653181 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Religion Christian,[3] former member of United Church of Christ[4][5] < 1248653195 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess protestant kinda thing < 1248653203 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congregationalist & presbyterian sez [[United Church of Christ]] < 1248653209 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The UCC maintains full communion with several other mainline Protestant denominations and participates in worldwide ecumenical efforts. The UCC has historically favored progressive, or liberal, views on civil rights, gay rights, women's rights, abortion, and other issues. Congregations have extensive, perhaps definitive, authority over matters of doctrine and ministry, though, and may or may not support the national body's theological or moral stan < 1248653211 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ces. < 1248653215 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, liberal kinda christian < 1248653258 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all us presidents religious nowadays? < 1248653268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm about as clueless about these things as an infant < 1248653278 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: every single US president has been religious < 1248653282 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the founding fathers were deists < 1248653290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1248653292 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they won't be saying "god bless" < 1248653298 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they still believe there was a god guy < 1248653298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard otherwise < 1248653306 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, by over-zealous atheists seeking confirmation < 1248653314 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1248653320 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were secular, understated deists < 1248653324 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still religion < 1248653377 0 :eli`yt_xyrd!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliott < 1248653383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate how this is registered < 1248653391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just scary :\ < 1248653392 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1248653394 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the nick. < 1248653395 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall some poll showing that if somebody was an atheist, but otherwise everybody agreed with them about everything, they still wouldn't win in a US presidential race. Or even come close. < 1248653395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's registered by elliottcable < 1248653398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whom I hate < 1248653407 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean hate < 1248653410 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1248653431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: your country rocks :P < 1248653440 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248653444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliott < 1248653450 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say i know what the state is in finland. < 1248653466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :112 days since use, excellent < 1248653470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION asks for droppitude < 1248653476 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, a gay man could potentially win, but narrowly, it was like 30% who would refuse to vote for him based on that alone) < 1248653485 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1248653504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1248653508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1248653514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the account owner has to be inactive < 1248653521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they pointed out he was in #freenode :) < 1248653528 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1248653544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that means I could hog hundreds of nicks < 1248653545 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody registered 'Gregor' five weeks ago. < 1248653547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just stay online the account < 1248653550 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To that I say, "Gee, I'm a retard" < 1248653558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: just give it 60 days :P < 1248653572 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I wanna drink goat's blood! < 1248653585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1248653611 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's only Tuesday :( < 1248653612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you said you were gonna think for a few hours when i asked how exactly your OS would visualise objects < 1248653617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you ever finish that thinking :D < 1248653652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i don't think i even started :D < 1248653663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize it was like a year ago that i was interested in os stuff < 1248653680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well yeah but you're not even interested in computers any more < 1248653687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everything is gonna be backdated < 1248653690 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1248653701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it seems gtkspell is too old too < 1248653703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1248653709 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's only interested in gay sex, torture and murder. < 1248653715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IRC < 1248653715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248653718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget IRC < 1248653722 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: True < 1248653735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: are those vjn people still spamming in finnish? < 1248653738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect them of doing it non-stop for years without sleeping < 1248653745 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes, we still do < 1248653751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ma go eavesdrop < 1248653754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw when googling I found a highly insane thread at the ubuntu forums... < 1248653757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, pretty much all of vjn is currently in the army < 1248653762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it is safe to link it to you < 1248653767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure thing. < 1248653773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually. Not a good idea AT ALL. < 1248653773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mandatory .mil service? < 1248653777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do it bitch < 1248653781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except one who was there for 3 days and got bored, one who's me, and one who did it ages ago < 1248653787 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes. < 1248653790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i'll find an openssl exploit and hax your computer to find the link < 1248653793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lame < 1248653805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, lets just say it is someone recompiling packages on ubuntu with -funroll-loops... < 1248653809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: <3 < 1248653811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1248653815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: actually i take back my insult, finland is worse :P < 1248653820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be avant garde < 1248653820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101097 < 1248653823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: insult at what < 1248653824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 2005 < 1248653833 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that poll thing GregorR mentioned < 1248653839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what did you say about it? < 1248653841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1248653848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ugh < 1248653853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does us have mandatory mil? :P < 1248653860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1248653860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't in tv shows < 1248653871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, agreed < 1248653877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and gentoo devs would agree too < 1248653879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT safe flags < 1248653897 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: #vjn.priv has most of the action nowadays < 1248653905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sounds terribly private. < 1248653910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1248653917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok, i'm happy being part of the hoi polloi < 1248653922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i guess consists of… me < 1248653927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Q < 1248653930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and Q < 1248653934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless .priv has Q < 1248653935 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your being on #vjn may induce okoing there ofc, although you probably leave soon. < 1248653937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then just me < 1248653958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q is on .priv. < 1248653969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so ronery < 1248653986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.priv is for voiced people and ops really < 1248654022 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except this johan who we know from volimo's invading a few of his channels has an autovoice too < 1248654029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't part of vjn < 1248654059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you guys sign up as a corporation or something? or was that a religion < 1248654063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you should do it as a religion instead < 1248654066 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're a registered group < 1248654067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think everything should be a religion < 1248654073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean you can only have one religion < 1248654077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it'd enforce cliqueness < 1248654094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that sounds like a very pointless status < 1248654095 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were thinking about religion, but most of us don't want the possible press interest < 1248654116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: methinks you overestimate your importance :D < 1248654158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea: install new gtkspell and xchat in ~/local < 1248654171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that a better/worse idea than upgrading it system wide? < 1248654174 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend's mum works for a paper, she'd definitely write the story at least < 1248654182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a pretty bad idea. < 1248654197 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which said friend wouldn't want < 1248654203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I can't live without proper spell checking in irc client. And that means I need to do either of those < 1248654212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I found in changelog that this is real real issue < 1248654215 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248654216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so you want it in xchat but don't need it in firefox? < 1248654224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you never type in two languages in firefox too? < 1248654230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an app-specific "solution" to this is silly < 1248654244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err I can change language in firefox already? < 1248654254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah… tediously. < 1248654266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not really < 1248654266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If it works how you want, then that's just Gnome's widget. < 1248654268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install xchat-gnome and it should use it. < 1248654277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway it isn't app specifc < 1248654282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XChat doesn't use Gnome stuff, so. < 1248654283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything using gtkspell can use it < 1248654295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said, I doubt it's gtkspell. < 1248654304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I read the changelog < 1248654305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sec < 1248654311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gtkspell.sourceforge.net/ChangeLog < 1248654316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just install xchat-gnome and see if it works, ffs. < 1248654317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Fix feature request #1523881, #1643622 and #2054637 < 1248654317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : by adding a Language selector sub-menu. < 1248654318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1248654319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1248654322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAPPY NOW? < 1248654332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're an idiot and clearly cannot comprehend English < 1248654335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1248654343 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/garfield-lol.jpg < 1248654343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your argument method consists of yelling. < 1248654351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't /ignored someone in a while. < 1248654364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Oooold < 1248654364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 2006-2007 old < 1248654383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, very well I compiled it in "/local and used LD_PRELOAD. Guess what now xchat automatically has that pop up menu option < 1248654392 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the URL. < 1248654392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do you finally believe me? < 1248654398 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say more like, 2008 old :P < 1248654408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That image is copied. < 1248654415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the, I think, dinosaur comic forums. < 1248654418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's your face. < 1248654444 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1248654467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sigh I guess ehird ignored me just before I told him about LD_PRELOAD? < 1248654471 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translatefrom se Later < 1248654471 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248654485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not Swedish < 1248654498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: are you saying that you got it to work? < 1248654524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes with LD_PRELOADing a newer gtkspell.so < 1248654527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translatefrom no Later < 1248654528 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248654530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a temp hack < 1248654540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to check that I was right < 1248654580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and xchat-gnome doesn't support it < 1248654585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so using it won't help anywya < 1248654587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway* < 1248654712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better: xchat-gnome destroyed the normal xchat settings < 1248654723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ehird is REALLY proud now < 1248654756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, please tell ehird that 1) it was gtkspell 2) xchat-gnome didn't work 3) xchat-gnome mangled preferences from normal xchat. < 1248654758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all < 1248654767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523, please tell ehird that 1) it was gtkspell 2) xchat-gnome didn't work 3) xchat-gnome mangled preferences from normal xchat. < 1248654775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you do that again, I'll ignore you. < 1248654789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems he is afraid of the truth too < 1248654791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1248654803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's not as if you're saying anything atm anyway < 1248654821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and? I don't appreciate you breaking my ignore option. < 1248654833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes he is afraid of the truth < 1248654841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't think that's quite the situation < 1248654850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I can accept when I'm wrong usually. ehird can't < 1248654883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway now lets find a more permanent solution than scp from libgtkspell.so.0.0.0 from gentoo and then LD_PRELOAD it < 1248654913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems that people who arrive at websites from Bing are 55% more likely to click through on adverts < 1248654920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to people who arrived from Google < 1248654924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any idea if there is any place like packages.debian.org but for ubuntu? < 1248654935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: IIRC, it exists but I don't know where it is < 1248654945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apt-cache search, etc, can be pretty useful < 1248654950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248654952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkspell < 1248654953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1248654958 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there, now i ignored _both_ ehird and AnMaster. < 1248654961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes but I want to find last unstable < 1248654971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i apologise for not saying anything. < 1248654978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, huh? did either of us insult oerjan? < 1248654979 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, what would be much better than ignore would be something that prevents the server from sending your messages to everyone on the chan. < 1248654985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is oerjan just joking < 1248655004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he felt he was insulted < 1248655012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there is definitely a place for find last unstable, but again I don't know where it is < 1248655028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: /part? or have I taken the wrong interpretation of your ambiguous sentence? < 1248655028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just doesn't like seeing hate. < 1248655030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how sane on a scale from 0-10 is it to use a package from last unstable on stable < 1248655037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "everyone" < 1248655037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as in: package manager breaking or such? < 1248655038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anyone < 1248655050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., /notfortheeyesof AnMaster < 1248655051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it won't break the package manager, most likely it'll complain about unmet dependencies if you try though < 1248655056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what ehird said; which i guess means "what i said" < 1248655062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm interesting < 1248655076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to try macirssi now! < 1248655076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the package manager won't let you do anything stupid without a --force option < 1248655101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: basically the ability to ignore myself for someone else. < 1248655125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, now to figure out how.. because deps are rather modest of this... < 1248655127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: unfortunately, most IRC servers ban the obvious method of implementing that < 1248655134 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is list-of-people PRIVMSGs < 1248655136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the obvious method? < 1248655141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1248655151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the same < 1248655161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your messages will not be mutual knowledge to the channel < 1248655165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in theory, you can write PRIVMSG ais523,AnMaster,ehird :Look at this message! < 1248655170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will be knowledge separately to each dude on the chan < 1248655177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally, you'd want PRIVMSG ais523,AnMaster,ehird@#esoteric :Look at this message! < 1248655181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, doesn't work on freenode < 1248655185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1248655198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe, PRIVMSG -oklopol@#esoteric :This is secret from oklopol < 1248655204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except - is legal in nicks < 1248655208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd need a different syntax < 1248655221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could prepend something like "this is a message to everyone except X on #Y:". < 1248655227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be mutual knowledge < 1248655240 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i prefer the solution where the server does it < 1248655241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is this extension to IRC supposed to do < 1248655251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what oklopol requested < 1248655265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, exclude someone else from seeing the message? < 1248655270 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248655275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ehird_ < 1248655277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird_ < 1248655284 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh macirssi shows the topic as \u05ea etc < 1248655286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, basically to avoid annoying them < 1248655294 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda very unicode! < 1248655337 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay how do i make this window less transparent < 1248655345 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doth piss me off < 1248655348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :super-mousewheel? < 1248655358 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wat? < 1248655367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean sure i sometimes want not to see other people's messages for a while, when i need a break from the anger induced trance, but a forced ignore would be a nice long-term solution to annoying people. < 1248655379 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1248655389 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :longer-term, that is, i can't really be mad to anyone for more than a few hours < 1248655406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to humans that is < 1248655414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: I was trying to remember how to do it on Compiz < 1248655421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a shortcut to control window transparenc < 1248655426 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow < 1248655428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no super-mousewheel is zoom < 1248655434 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that could actually be useful < 1248655437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a shortcut for transparency, though < 1248655437 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see stuff behind it quickly < 1248655440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: it has been < 1248655440 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I'd prefer just one shortcut < 1248655443 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it about half transparent < 1248655449 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to such silly fine-grainedness < 1248655461 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248655466 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i appear to be unable to say unicode chars < 1248655472 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just gets eaten up < 1248655481 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this client is thoroughly shit < 1248655583 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colloquy 2.2 (4129) < 1248655583 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latest build on 1/9/2009 can be downloaded here (6.98 MB). Requires Mac OS X 10.4 or higher. Supplied as a universal binary, allowing it to run on an Intel or PowerPC Mac. < 1248655588 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool a new colloquy < 1248655591 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically unheard of < 1248655610 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO LONG SOLK FUCKERS! < 1248655613 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for a second < 1248655615 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Get MacIrssi - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/" < 1248655627 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248655634 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248655654 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248655659 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i meant to say was < 1248655664 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"correction < 1248655670 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248655691 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248655694 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /quit Don't get MacIrssi, it sucks - http://www.sysctl.co.uk/projects/macirssi/" < 1248655700 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the space < 1248655705 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus fucking christ on a pogo stick < 1248655717 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248655837 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248655839 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi bitches < 1248655847 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't never made a floughterus < 1248655853 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know it's true < 1248655875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Caught sigterm, terminating..." < 1248655880 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha lame bitch-o < 1248655881 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1248655920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't have sex on a pogo stick < 1248655924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin' can < 1248655931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fuck a can. < 1248656026 0 :anm_ub!n=AnMaster@d83-177-5-115.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248656045 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes it seems to work very nicely. Had to build it locally to get deps right < 1248656048 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was easy < 1248656056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anm_ub: context? < 1248656084 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dpkg-buildpackage to build the "unstable" gtkspell < 1248656097 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then installing it < 1248656104 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works flawlessly < 1248656118 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes the extra menu in the popup menu is there < 1248656155 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wgeted the files in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gtkspell/2.0.15-0ubuntu1 < 1248656164 0 :anm_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :anmaster_ub < 1248656169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1248656210 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I wonder why ehird had such large issues with me being right about it being a gtkspell issue... < 1248656237 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248656241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my name < 1248656243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tear it about < 1248656248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1248656250 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248656252 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248656254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tis though < 1248656257 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did he leave in a huff suddenly < 1248656262 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1248656272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok this style sucks < 1248656275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ma try another one < 1248656283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248656295 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248656301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning america < 1248656309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mood gorning america < 1248656326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248656330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if i can, like < 1248656331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change this font. < 1248656333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nic. < 1248656334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e. < 1248656361 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway... long live gtkspell 2.0.15 < 1248656494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ais523 is annoyed at Ubuntu's typical bug response it's considerably worse than Debian's <-- ? < 1248656563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248656567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very considerably worse < 1248656570 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian's is pretty good IME < 1248656575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in what way < 1248656596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :response time < 1248656607 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248656610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is a rather tight fit in the menu bar thing at the top < 1248656631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1248656632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1248656635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1248656647 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248656651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello! < 1248656657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out I'm an antelope. would you believe? < 1248656667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2x xchat icon (this is X forward, haven't yet fixed listening ip for bouncer), battery, network manager, bluetooth, CPU temp, battery temp, fan speed, core 1 temp, core 2 temp, sound, date < 1248656668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1248656671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think :D < 1248656685 0 :anmaster_ub!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"brb" < 1248656686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fairly sure I've outlawed slavery at least once in my lifetime < 1248656691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't < 1248656695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no opinion < 1248656727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I shall have to ignore ehird too soon < 1248656733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly he is trying to be annoying < 1248656767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well guys! it's been just swell < 1248656771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i gotta fly you know? < 1248656771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1248656773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :into bed < 1248656776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw, apart from the wlan... this thinkpad works very well < 1248656778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fly into bed. < 1248656779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1248656781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248656799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the wlan has some bug that makes it take ages to connect to networks with WPA2-PSK < 1248656804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that I use at home < 1248656817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :known and reported bug < 1248656880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in what? < 1248656912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well no one knows... either wpa_supplicant or the kernel module iwlagn < 1248656917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a combination < 1248656973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the result is that it takes a random amount of time before things connect < 1248656981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it keeps reporting this in dmesg: < 1248656982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1248656987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17435.744398] wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3) < 1248657020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time it took 10 seconds. the time before that it took about 5 minutes < 1248657026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this is a very annoying bug < 1248657028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that bug affects me too < 1248657032 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it" < 1248657036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you have an intel chipset? < 1248657042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that uses that driver? < 1248657051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is a different driver hm < 1248657059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, intel chipset < 1248657062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe the bug is in wpa_supplicant < 1248657066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that driver though? < 1248657070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember the driver offhand < 1248657075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also when did the issue start < 1248657080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, lsmod | grep wlan < 1248657085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's been there forever < 1248657092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, damn :( < 1248657107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sometimes it doesn't connect at all < 1248657122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway do you know any good workaround? < 1248657133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248657148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so how do you usually solve it...? < 1248657151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting? < 1248657166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I sure hope the university I'm going to won't use WPA2 < 1248657215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, waiting < 1248657260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, looks like WLAN coverage at the uni is rather sparse: https://shib1.oru.se/account/images/Zonkarta.jpg < 1248657260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear in mind that my trackpad doesn't work, the sound has issues sometimes, some of the buttons on the front don't work, and the computer needs a reboot to turn the screen on if it's closed < 1248657267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the https cert is broken yes < 1248657276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I will have to reupload the image instead < 1248657312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link to the PDF with details about wlan gives 404 < 1248657344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my touchpad/trackpoint works < 1248657347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two issues however: < 1248657357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tapping the trackpoint is supposed to click: doesn't work < 1248657409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fn-F8 is supposed to turn off the touchpad (useful when you are writing to prevent accidental mouse movements), after some fiddling with hal it does. But it *also* turns off the buttons for the trackpoint < 1248657419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thinkpad has two sets of buttons < 1248657424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one below the touchpad < 1248657426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one above < 1248657436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the above ones are for the track point in the middle of the keyboard < 1248657455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the wlan bug, does it only affect WPA2 networks? < 1248657466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or WPA too? And what about WEP or unencrypted < 1248657474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't affect original WPA, haven't tried anywhere else < 1248657478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for all I know, it's a different bug < 1248657525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so WPA2 but not WPA? (asking for confirmation because your response seemed to contain a typo or be rather strangely worded) < 1248657541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I think so, but if it's a different bug this info won't help < 1248657554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well non-WPA2 seems to work for me < 1248657562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is too insecure for my home network < 1248657658 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248657711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, your dmesg contains that error I mentioned? < 1248657717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so very probably the same bug < 1248657720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not an error, it's full of stuff like that < 1248657726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the exact wording < 1248657733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17435.744398] wlan0: disassociating by local choice (reason=3) < 1248657737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think that's the message, I'm not sure though < 1248657738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the significant line < 1248657774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, does it only happen after suspend? Or also on cold boot? < 1248657780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens all the time < 1248657784 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, after random disconnectoin < 1248657798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't have random disconnections < 1248657798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the same issue also seems to happen to people with Windows < 1248657802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I have good signal here < 1248657802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assumed it was the router's fault < 1248657814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no issues on windows here < 1248657815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1248657830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is different bug with the same symptoms < 1248657934 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to use HP Polaris < 1248657965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just discovered a flaw in HP Polaris and similar stuff: What happens when a program wants to store a cache or config files? < 1248657985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Polaris set up to handle that? < 1248658046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm someone suggests 2.6.28-9 kernel should fix it < 1248658049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1248658052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :downgrading < 1248658112 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the diff between the kernels for anything that might be causing the issue < 1248658201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1248658209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu bug reports seem confused indeed < 1248658218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very seldom does a developer respond < 1248658229 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@97-118-124-136.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248658248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/348275 <-- fun reading < 1248658255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, of course < 1248658276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are several different bugs in that report < 1248658423 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5&comics=1385,1360,1359 T-Rex comics < 1248658454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1248658594 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=1438,1204 Hahahah, OK, I'm having too much fun with this silly script :P < 1248658782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... A script that glues parts of Dinosaur Comics together. < 1248658785 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's nice. < 1248658829 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my response to the posted random-second-panel script :P < 1248658848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248658890 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally like ?panels=0,1 ... it's T-Rex having a hard time fighting off his ADD. < 1248658894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, where is that script < 1248658911 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, the random-second-panel one? It's linked on qwantz.com < 1248659021 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=850,876 T-Rex has often-weird trains of thought :P < 1248659102 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=220,180 I don't think that's true, T-Rex (OK, I promise this is the last one I post :P < 1248659103 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1248659197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it _could_ have been true < 1248660085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night, and watch out for the giant mutated bed bugs" < 1248660121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT&T has the mind of a dog and balls the size of the moon. < 1248660125 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're censoring 4chan. < 1248660165 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1248660259 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5,6&comics=911,15,15,15 // ha, a friend constructed this one < 1248660899 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: my opinion is that this is actually 'line in the sand' time < 1248660940 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either we agree 'ok, its fine if all communications get prior corporate approval' - or we cave in. < 1248661655 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't both options the same? < 1248661995 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248662004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248662821 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh yeah, guess i didnt do a very good job on that dichotomy, huh < 1248663318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1248666191 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5&comics=475,1410,170 < 1248666205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine is using this to make "T-Rex is Lonely Comics" now :P < 1248668031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, has those 3 squares? < 1248668054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in theme of jokes clearly, so i'll assume yes < 1248668254 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1248668257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He now has no friends :P < 1248668292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except God and Shakespeare. < 1248668293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he seems to have some sorta employees < 1248668297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Devil. < 1248668368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :animals are a weird concept < 1248668378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to see one < 1248668380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1248668396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're multicellular protists without a cell wall. < 1248668400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's so hard about that? < 1248668583 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying they are hard to implement, i'm just saying they weird me out so to speak. < 1248668600 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean currently. suddenly they started feeling so real. < 1248668624 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things sometimes start feeling very real, it's a great opportunity to find new perspectives to life < 1248668633 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes < 1248668635 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now more algebra < 1248669419 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248669430 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a strange Omegle conversation. < 1248669467 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said, "Hi. I've decided I'd like to make friends with a completely random person. Are you up for it?" E said "yes". I said, "Are you on Facebook? You could send me a friend request". E disconnected. < 1248669482 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.1077theend.com/files/2009/03/amanda-palmer.jpg < 1248669485 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amanda fucking palmer < 1248669489 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i loves her < 1248669504 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: how is that strange < 1248669532 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: is that your mother? < 1248669542 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :negatory < 1248669562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would < 1248669583 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E indicated that e would cooperate and then failed to answer a question. < 1248669669 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he thought you meant befriending during that conversation, probably. < 1248669686 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't realize you actually meant what you said, because it isn't something you'd expect to see < 1248669705 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs. < 1248669738 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would anyone ever use Omegle for an ordinary purpose? I use it for explicitly random solitications; therefore, everyone does. < 1248669763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other person i know who uses it keeps asking people "red or blue?" and similar questions. < 1248669778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and keeps statistics < 1248669973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently after a few thousand questions most conversations consist of "oh fuck you again" < 1248673583 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=1283,1297 Oh T-Rex, your logic is always so flawed. < 1248674096 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248674309 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248675823 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248675823 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248676029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=1283,1297 <<< this is hilarious :D < 1248676043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure why < 1248676045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm hungry < 1248676095 0 :Robdgreat!i=rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1248676095 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-042-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248677019 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248677101 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1248677790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248678758 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1248679435 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248680092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248681599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1248681600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1248683349 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248683382 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248683405 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1248685997 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-8-7.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248686061 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1248686253 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1248686779 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248686779 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248686918 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248687275 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248687579 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric : < 1248687583 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speak english next time < 1248687588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248687742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1248687752 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i still ignoring someone < 1248688872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1248688874 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the topic was hebrew < 1248688878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a bitch to change < 1248688882 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i removed it entirely < 1248688919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1248689214 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248689662 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248691867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248693894 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248693894 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248693894 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248693932 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-042-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248693932 0 :Robdgreat!i=rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1248693965 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248693971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1248693977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or early afternoon rather < 1248694064 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1248694268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what irritates me? That xchat lacks readline editing commands. Stuff like Ctrl-a to go to start of line < 1248695231 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248695508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1248695864 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-82-92.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1248696001 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1248696123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! < 1248696123 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248696139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're proterozoic. < 1248696145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you rascal! < 1248696148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make no mistake! < 1248696180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning essentially i talk out of my ass < 1248696213 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, that would be proteostomic < 1248696219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loto tprtpstringkgay. < 1248696251 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i could only spell that right. < 1248696295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, get off my protolawn. < 1248696320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a non-proterozoic lawn! < 1248696331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that I may step on it in bigger leaps and bounds! Like Neil Armstrong! < 1248696336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LIVE ON THE MOON, OERJAN! < 1248696376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protostomic, was it < 1248696412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Protosthutyourassomic. < 1248696453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i make no guess what opening you are currently talking out of. < 1248696485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY BRAIIIIIIIIIIIIIAHAIHAIHAIAHAIIN < 1248696596 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. sorry about that mad cow disease, then. < 1248696612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAD PLOW! < 1248696640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds scary < 1248696654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :43 and a half is just impossible < 1248696655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know? < 1248696697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is a thinly-concealed mathematics secret. we try not to scare ordinary people with it, though. < 1248696734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: weren't you the one who said that the laws of mathematics might start to break down at around 10^40 or sth? < 1248696737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that was just a joke < 1248696785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1248696797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then what the flying fuck did you mean? < 1248696846 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematics could be inconsistent, but it could be that the proof is very long and hard to stumble on < 1248696869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why 10^40 < 1248696879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't see any clauses in peano arithmetic going, < 1248696881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok _that_ was just out of thin air < 1248696892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if(x>10^40, 42, else x+y)" < 1248696931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that doesn't matter. you don't see any clauses saying 43 is prime, either. < 1248696950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're sounding vaguely crackpottish, oerjan < 1248696953 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof would probably have to build up some complicated machinery, or something < 1248696957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $// < 1248696979 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be crackpot if i claimed i knew of such a thing. i am merely pointing out the possibility. < 1248697040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (a) what's up with your English lately?, (b) i think if mathematics "breaks down" past a certain point, our conceptions are wrong, not mathematics < 1248697068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, PA is terribly simple… if it's inconsistent, it's probably impossible to formalise arithmetic in a way that matches our expectations < 1248697072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so… < 1248697091 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe the 10^40 was a kind of "infinity could be inconsistent, but it could computational capability close to the entire universe to show" < 1248697136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe the universe would be finite _because_ of this inconsistency, just in order to be able to logically exist... < 1248697152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*could require < 1248697159 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my english am fine < 1248697179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, I'm not sure I like the idea of infinity too much < 1248697189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(limits don't count, that's just an unbounded limit, not an actual infinity being involved) < 1248697249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that's not the same as "a certain number might be speshul and fuck everything up" :P < 1248697274 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i never meant that anyway, at least directly < 1248697334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure is what you said < 1248697357 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if there were a short proof, it could very well involve a special number. but then it could involve anything. < 1248697410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could even be that a particular number works, but not larger ones. likely, if a special property of it is needed. < 1248697435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm\ < 1248697439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/m\\$// < 1248697445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't exactly see this as being likely at all < 1248697469 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely is used here in a relative sense < 1248697475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hiwc < 1248697485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1248697505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs scrambling to the browser < 1248697590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's more likely than god existing in my mind but that's not exactly a stunning upper bound < 1248697617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm Colloquy isn't ignoring lines mentioning AnMaster, wonder if I could tell it to < 1248697628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of annoying seeing one side of conversations < 1248697642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also unignore me you know... < 1248697657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, seems not < 1248697665 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was expecting a pun related to hyperspace there, but no. < 1248697741 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-042-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248698358 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd :D < 1248698475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, agreed < 1248698476 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248698800 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also liked today's girl genius, although that requires some context < 1248699070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Gibber gibber" < 1248699477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like awk on ubuntu isn't gawk < 1248699485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mawk?? < 1248699796 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-042-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248700196 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Ubuntu 8.10 workstation I have at work has both gawk and mawk installed, and plain "awk" defaults on gawk with the alternatives system (priority 10 for gawk vs. 5 for mawk). < 1248700205 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it could be that the default install doesn't include gawk. < 1248700211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay? < 1248700216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, AnMaster. < 1248700221 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes. < 1248700243 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make a habit of attributing my lines. < 1248700840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION yells at a prescriptivist < 1248700997 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248701365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ערוץ לדיון סוגיות ×‘× ×•×©× ×™×”×•×“×™ דתי, ו ×זוטרי שפות תכנות http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248701535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :×יל ההון ×ת ערוץ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248701828 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tycoon the channel" is what I get from that :P < 1248701902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mogul the channel! < 1248703052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ערוץ, דת, יהודי×, ו ×‘×’×©× ×›×“×™ לדון בבעיה ×¢× ×©×¤×ª התכנות http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248703080 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Channel, religion, Jews, and the rain to discuss the problem with the programming language", according to translate.google.com. < 1248703227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248703230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just borked google translate < 1248703233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made me DDoS themselves < 1248703253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/vIUZH.png < 1248703288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them, not themselves, I think < 1248703297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't want to be highlighted every line unless there is a good reason though < 1248703337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so not to please ehird, but ok if there are two convos at once or such, or if it is the first line in a discussion) < 1248703377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some sort of right-to-left thingy in the topic? < 1248703416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least xchat displays the text with the non-ASCII stuff last in the topic line of the channel, but in the reverse order when I do /topic < 1248703534 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's right. < 1248703545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always right. < 1248703580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GregorR: Perhaps you were talking to AnMaster :P) < 1248703609 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world may never know. < 1248703620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tragic < 1248703623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1248703628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta learn to type dots. < 1248705906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :INFINITE GUNS AVAILABLE NOW → http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706335 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ערוץ לדיון סוגיות ×‘× ×•×©× ×™×”×•×“×™ דתי, ו ×זוטרי שפות תכנות http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :THE MAN IS TRYING TO OPRESS THIS → http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(THE MAN IS GREGORR) < 1248706457 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :הדיכוי של ערוץ! http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :沒關係 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("C'est ne pas une sujet [topic]", if Google Translate is right.) < 1248706630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Simplified Chinese. Very short.) < 1248706638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Clearly Magritte was Chinese.) < 1248706679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well :) < 1248706790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :這ä¸æ˜¯ä¸€å€‹å•é¡Œ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248706793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it wrong the first time. < 1248706804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is not an issue" XD < 1248707208 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ערוץ ×–×” ×”×•× ×§×¨×‘ בין ×”×™×”×•×“×™× ×œ×‘×™×Ÿ 中文 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248707215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :這ä¸æ˜¯ä¸€å€‹å•é¡Œ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248707218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am unstoppable. < 1248707221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstopperable. < 1248707233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But mine was hilarifunny :P < 1248707286 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are unspottable. < 1248707329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: What does it actually say? < 1248707365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is a war between Jews and Chinese < 1248707370 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With "Chinese" in Chinese) < 1248707466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D ××± װײ < 1248707477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :××± װײ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248707630 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :ã¦ãƒã™ ã„ã™ ã¶ã‚ã‘ã‚“ エんãã‚Šã—ã‚…! http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1248707721 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248707745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oy vey, GregorR obliterated my oy vey. < 1248707758 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248707783 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I replaced it with thisu isu burokenu Engulishu! < 1248707785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: "I d GURISHU ticket to ISU bath chair!"? < 1248707786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248707825 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIRUGAMESH < 1248708146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Linux has a NAZI theme--darwin evolution konquer. People who obsess on evolution are sick in the head. They all want to kill-off dumb people. < 1248708146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoseThos has a bible theme. It has a special kernel task called "Adam", father of all tasks. I'm an evolutionist, but it's not my religion. < 1248708146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider this turf wars. Stick to your atheist operating systems, fair enough?]] < 1248708222 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!?!?! < 1248708272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: From reddit, by the mentally insane creator of the 64-bit OS that implements unprotected memory on top of paging and only works at 640x480x16colours because he didn't want to do any buffering: http://losethos.com/ < 1248708293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More WTF: http://www.reddit.com/user/losethos/ < 1248708304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more WTF: http://www.losethos.com/FBI.html < 1248708309 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's clearly insane if he says he's an evolutionist, but also associates it with naziism? < 1248708319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit, unprotected memory. With 640x480, 4-bit color. Must. Kill. < 1248708330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: He doesn't appear to understand what evolution is, or that it's a scientific theory and not a belief. < 1248708334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just click that FBI.html page. < 1248708340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has some sort of fucked up algorithm for generating nonsense. < 1248708344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is apparently god talking to him. < 1248708350 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1248708353 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEMORY PROTECTION IS NOT HARD. < 1248708358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He explicitly dislikes it. < 1248708373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: The "Moses Comics" link is extra-fun; a bunch of comics where God is a fucking asshole! Comes with ;-) smilies! < 1248708414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: MURDER < 1248708415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1248708419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's better than the Time Cube guy because he isn't an internet-recluse. < 1248708428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can watch him on reddit! < 1248708441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And he wrote this over the course of 6 *years*. < 1248708448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Errata: < 1248708449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* I misspoke -- the FPS is 500 LOC not 500,000 LOC.]] < 1248708460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vocal cords are, like, right next to each other. < 1248708486 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that when I cough, it sounds like I'm saying "thousand" < 1248708511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oh, and you can get a dictionary and a utility to decompress the LoseThos archive files on Windows or Linux. < 1248708514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's free, for now, if you complete a survey: < 1248708514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Describe your system hardware. Tell what works and what doesn't. < 1248708514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Did you install it on your hard drive? Any difficulties? < 1248708525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Difficulties: You're fucking insane and this OS is terrible" < 1248708537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How in the world does it take you 6 years to write something that poor? < 1248708555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the Hurd does more in 6 years. < 1248708556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Obviously God told him to take that long. < 1248708559 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's the ultimate in vaporware. < 1248708580 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has a 12 fps flight sim. < 1248708586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dealing with his crap graphics. < 1248708587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIL! < 1248708589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The OS does no buffering. < 1248708594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It redraws the entire screen every frame. < 1248708601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knew he could do buffering, but decided to keep the low res instead. < 1248708608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESPITE REQUIRING A 64-BIT COMPUTER AND HAVING 12GB OF RAM. < 1248708616 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Buffering. < 1248708629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT TAKES MORE WORK THAN BUFFERING. < 1248708640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, no dirty rectangles at all < 1248708641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total redraw < 1248708654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, Hurd seems quite active, actually; they migrated to git on -06-30 and they made a stable release on 2007-12-30 < 1248708663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if X11 compiles on it? < 1248708668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess how you write to the graphics card with VESA? A feking FRAMEBUFFER. < 1248708721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Checking packages.debian.org. < 1248708735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Long mode requires a memory mapping thing, so he actually had to do work to make it map directly to physical memory. < 1248708749 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not hard, though. < 1248708754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en-gb&q=x11%20hurd&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi < 1248708757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second screenshot is KD eon Hurd < 1248708759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seems to be dead < 1248708761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single line of code, in fact. < 1248708762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*KDE on Hurd < 1248708773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Don't care :P < 1248708777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/20070212142238/http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/media/hurd-kde.png < 1248708781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for it to load. < 1248708795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1248708800 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's sweeterrible 8-D < 1248708802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE running on GNU Hurd. < 1248708806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: What is? < 1248708812 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE on Hurd < 1248708814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248708825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Of course, most of the work is glibc and stuff. < 1248708837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use all the other GNU crap, it doesn't take that much to get KDE running, I'd imagine. < 1248708892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.losethos.com/contact.html < 1248708897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LoseThos' original codebase is from 1993. < 1248708903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And was unchanged until 2003. < 1248708954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs — as much as it pains him to — Windows Media Player on OS X. < 1248708958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the crazy LoseThos videos!) < 1248708972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The userspace stuff is not hard to get working. After all, Hurd is just a kernel. < 1248708973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The glibc's a bit hard, though, because it's basically emulating UNIX on a not-all-that-UNIX API. < 1248709003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are a lot of homo's on this site. Butt hole surfers. Nasty!!" < 1248709005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot, he's a bigot. < 1248709022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOSETHOS DOES COÖPERATIVE MULTITASKING. < 1248709028 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH BUSY-WAITS. < 1248709032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ö < 1248709035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Shock emoticon! < 1248709041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Murder. < 1248709057 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248709057 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248709057 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248709057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in favour of this "murder" idea. < 1248709076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discover two ways to enjoy your audio and video on your Mac. Flip4Mac provides Windows Media video and audio playback in the QuickTime Player for Mac OS X. Windows Media Player for Mac is also available as a free download from Microsoft, but future updates will be discontinued. < 1248709080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that sounds better. < 1248709179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The page “index†has content of MIME type “application/x-mplayer2â€, but you don’t have a plug-in for this MIME type. This page may have the plug-in for you to download and install: < 1248709184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I need to install it anyway, huh. < 1248709211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it works if I restart Safari. < 1248709234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wow. < 1248709237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just listen to his voice. < 1248709280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It blinks around so much... < 1248709368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You want you too you wait for unsigned". (U1 U2 U8 :P) < 1248709391 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-042-116.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248709391 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@97-118-124-136.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248709391 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248709404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You have to listen to the LoseThos video. < 1248709406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can taste the insanity. < 1248709518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll install the Hurd. < 1248709532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To http://www.superunprivileged.org/! < 1248709554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—taking a detour to Why Cooperation With RMS Is Impossible, uh, I mean the Free Software Song— < 1248709585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, man. < 1248709588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hurd LiveCD uses Debian. < 1248709591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it use Debian? < 1248709597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want raw Hurd, man! < 1248709602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian is too easy. < 1248709624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248709632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how did your POSIX kernel go, btw? < 1248709633 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all Debian maaaaaaaaaan < 1248709639 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian won Hurd :P < 1248709648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That's just too lame and easy. < 1248709653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck that, I'm going to write my own insane POSIX kernel. < 1248709668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see… a function is a process. Calling a function sends a message to it. < 1248709671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :printfd, fuck yeah. < 1248709691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("Hello, %s!\n", "world"); /* this actually sends the arguments to the printf process */ < 1248709705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248709740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo. < 1248709764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Answer my question >_> < 1248709775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I just got back from a netsplit! < 1248709781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traumatic! < 1248709784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been minutes, man. < 1248709789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've been back minutes. :P < 1248709798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I first saw your question a second ago. < 1248709806 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: GregorR, EgoBot, Warrigal, FireFly, sebbu, ehird, Robdgreat, augur, MigoMipo, MizardX (+28 more) < 1248709812 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is now 09:50. < 1248709819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all your messages hit in a giant stream. < 1248709825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You rejoined 15:43 here < 1248709828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1248709832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's now 15:50 for me. < 1248709865 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:37:37] <-- pikhq has quit (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) < 1248709869 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:43:07] --> pikhq (n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net) has joined #esoteric < 1248709879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:39, netsplit. < 1248709883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: …a POSIX kernel that compiles with clang/LLVM. >:) < 1248709886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must do it! < 1248709886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:48, return from netsplit. < 1248709896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Awesomeness. < 1248709899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, the kernel is compiled with clang/LLVM. < 1248709919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall call it… POSEVEN. < 1248709922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. Or not. < 1248709939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Anyway, did your kernel get anywhere? < 1248709949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1248709951 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For lack of work. < 1248709956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'aww. < 1248709964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what VM I should test this OS in. < 1248709967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bochs? < 1248709979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QEMU? < 1248709980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah; Bochs has a nice debugger. < 1248709980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decisions, ecisions. < 1248709983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*decisions < 1248709989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But I hate debuggers. :( < 1248709998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You'll need one. < 1248710012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I got an OS to print "Hello, world!" without a debugger! < 1248710013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248710071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps keeping a clang/LLVM in tree would be useful. < 1248710080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to be well-suited to installing what with the whole svn thing. < 1248710087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My interrupt handlers never got finished. < 1248710097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll interrupt your handlers, if you know what I mean? < 1248710100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what she said. < 1248710101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh snap. < 1248710103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like your mom. < 1248710106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like YOUR FACE! < 1248710108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what she said. < 1248710110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ice burn! < 1248710111 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from there, I'd need to get paging and a kmalloc going. < 1248710112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The end. < 1248710141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any OSes that switch to long mode before leaving assembly (as in, a few lines in). < 1248710147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, let poseven be the first! < 1248710164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should target Itanium. :P < 1248710240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh snap, if I can get clang/LLVM working for this, I can write parts of the kernel in Objective-C. < 1248710254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why I'd *want* to, what with the runtime dependency and large overhead, but… :P < 1248710261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/large/huge/ < 1248710277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The fastest Objective-C method call is, iirc, four times slower than a C++ virtual method call.) < 1248710292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 'Twould be awesome to make an all-Objective-C OS, though. < 1248710314 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointless, but awesome. < 1248710324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1248710351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if clang/LLVM support any calling conventions that let you detect the end of a variable argument list. < 1248710360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. pushing the length first. < 1248710377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite silly that C doesn't let you do that. Bah at asm compatibility. < 1248710380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. :P < 1248710396 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Xiin_ < 1248710449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, processes containing all the standard functions might be useful, actually. < 1248710486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, if printf does `sendmsg(current_output_process(), "printf", ...);` < 1248710497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/ then you can implement a terminal easily./ < 1248710509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By just changing the current output process, and implementing printf and the like. < 1248710522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess most OSs work similarly anyway, but this is a bit more general. < 1248710557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it'd actually be write that does that, and not printf, but you get the idea. < 1248710614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it also lets you do Plan 9-style things, where you can printf in a graphical application and it goes to your graphical window, as well as being able to draw on it. < 1248710739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you install Debian's Linux kernel on a Debian/kHURD installation, I wonder? < 1248710749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use it via two kernels? :-) < 1248710855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, with the kernel as a process, hotswapping it is really easy. < 1248710911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tell the kernel to do it, and it starts up the hotswapper as a child process, giving it full privileges. It passes a pointer to its state and memory locations to the hotswapper function, which then wantonly writes all over it, removes its process entry, hacks the stack so that when it returns it's to the relevant function in the new kernel, then returns. < 1248710926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Multitasking has to be disabled for the duration, of course.) < 1248711020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I right/wrong? < 1248711026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1248711035 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1248711044 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll read what i answered now < 1248711077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, no i won't < 1248711127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: plz do :< < 1248711132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just three lines < 1248711283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your questions is whether hotswapping can be done like that or whether you can use two kernels? < 1248711292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well use X via two kernels < 1248711297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where X is OS mumbo jumbo < 1248711302 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248711305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the former < 1248711311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have the kernel as Just Another Process < 1248711316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that happens to have all the other processes as children) < 1248711360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Consider "killall -9 poseven". Your mind is now blown. < 1248711381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stop right there, poseven! I'm halting your execution and then I'll < 1248711415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't know where the kernel usually is < 1248711433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it usually doesn't really exist from the userspace point of view < 1248711437 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248711442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i did know that < 1248711447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your first process is whatever the main process is e.g. init or whatever < 1248711449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which starts all the others < 1248711461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah init < 1248711468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in unix < 1248711474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of that! < 1248711502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray :P < 1248711577 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, err, i have not made an os, so it's mostly an unjustified opinion that i think making them is trivial. maybe it's really hard to have the kernel as a process, as it's the one who's in charge of all processes. < 1248711588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1248711597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see why it would be < 1248711610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just noting that I'm pretty sure you can do hotswapping the kernel (e.g. upgrading, patching and the like) at runtime without breaking shit quite easily if it's a process < 1248711613 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurd has the scheduler as just another process. < 1248711619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is cool < 1248711629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but, presumably, the scheduler doesn't schedule < 1248711642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scheduler will be a process in the same way that the kernel pretends to be a regular process < 1248711643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1248711648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248711650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't get scheduled < 1248711652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not doesn't schedule < 1248711667 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm fairly sure it schedules itself < 1248711668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1248711693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The scheduler is just another process. That "processes" are just things with seperate memory and the ability to pass messages is irrelevant. :P < 1248711702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because it can't schedule if it's letting another process run instead of itself < 1248711710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that process won't have a scheduler to butt it off after a while < 1248711785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the first person who can tell me what in hell "killall -9 poseven" (where poseven is the kernel process) would do gets a useless internet point. :P < 1248711809 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right it can't be the one who does all the actual memory switching shit; i just keep thinking of the algorithmic aspects of scheduling for some reason :P < 1248711827 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: halt < 1248711881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, the kernel will just replace itself with something that attempts to get rid of itself and keep scheduling, so I think it'd actually be a hardware error. < 1248711894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it'd try and call kernel functions, which have been replaced by other memory. < 1248711913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically the same as casting a random memory location to a function pointer then calling it. < 1248711921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, maybe it'll do something weird. Most probably, it'll just reboot. < 1248711932 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an OS course in mathematics where an OS is built over a turing machine, i might actually find the interest to get a firm grip over this stuff :P < 1248711940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, it might first call the handler, which is part of the now random memory.) < 1248711941 0 :nooga!n=nooga@94.254.245.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248711949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps nesting this a few times, but eventually it'll give up and reboot.) < 1248711967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: kinda impossible to do a regular OS on a TM < 1248711973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't access the ip and other internal stuff < 1248711982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, not tm < 1248712010 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248712010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A theoretical model of a machine, not an actual one with ugly cruft. < 1248712012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :realisticised von neumann, I guess < 1248712028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, -ffreestanding is the name of the game for clang/LLVM freestandingness. < 1248712029 0 :nooga!n=nooga@94.254.245.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248712036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need memcpy and a few other things, apparently, but that's… not a great hardship. < 1248712094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i see it, accessing ip, interrupts and all that, are stuff that's main purpose is to let you run stuff without an interpretation layer, but leave a weak sort of higher level for controlling the running < 1248712107 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a tm you'd have to have the interpretation layer explicit < 1248712111 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ruby interp is fucked up < 1248712113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: *stuff whose < 1248712116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Ha! You errored. < 1248712138 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck. < 1248712139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, doing such an emulation layer wouldn't really help you learn much about the actual interesting lower-level parts of OS design. < 1248712167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: reason is i was trying to find something less oklo than "stuff" to use there, but though meh who gives a fimmel. < 1248712175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fimmel? xD < 1248712180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the next word got very little focus < 1248712183 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes fimmel :P < 1248712193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: "things" is quite less oklo < 1248712199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-er than stuff < 1248712249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, the way i see it, what the OS is is basically a way to make the interpretation layer work sensibly without actually having one. < 1248712257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, i agree completely, and that was pretty much my point < 1248712258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps, perhaps < 1248712266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something of a simplification, but, well, i'm a mathematicion. < 1248712269 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mathematician < 1248712275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofailing a lot today eh < 1248712285 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well umm stuff up < 1248712286 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248712288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut < 1248712291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248712293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248712302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're cursed < 1248712335 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i decided to clean the apartment today. seems not to have happened yet. < 1248712351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone in turku atm..? < 1248712358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i am < 1248712360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I < 1248712374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ip because i'm sshing in to my uk comp) < 1248712376 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got like 2000e from mister insurance company. < 1248712391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give me it or something. < 1248712401 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248712410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*give it to me, rather < 1248712418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you clean this shithole, then yes; that was the whole point :P < 1248712439 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh shouldn't lie, i would probably not give you all of it. < 1248712442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: either you really hate money or that place is a gigantic dump :D < 1248712445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw dammit! < 1248712457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I'm not actually in turku. < 1248712458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i should probably call my parents and ask for them to actually give the money to me < 1248712471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just assuming they will :P < 1248712495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a spoiled brat < 1248712513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: just stop talking to them and become an unspoiled brat! < 1248712633 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how would i ever get to places over 1km away from my house < 1248712671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: walk < 1248712675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or public transport < 1248712676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fly < 1248712678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with like < 1248712678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wings < 1248712691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to get wings first though. < 1248712695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my shoes don't really have soles < 1248712712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy new shoes, with soles < 1248712715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or see the other options < 1248712723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my feet basically sweat acid, and i never buy new clothes < 1248712729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then see the ohter options < 1248712809 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have awesome bus skills, i'd go in, sit down, instantly fall asleep and wake up at the correct stop < 1248712816 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. usually, that is. < 1248712838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i'd be late for school because i'd slept for 5 stops too long < 1248712887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was during my first year of high school when i occasionally went months with like 2-3 hours of sleep a night < 1248712892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was basically a zombie < 1248712895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome times < 1248712925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248712927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it then! < 1248712927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~/Code/poseven/llvm] % CC="gcc-4.2 -m64" ENABLE_OPTIMIZED=1 ./configure < 1248712929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doo doo doo < 1248712949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once i started snoring during a mass lecture < 1248712960 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all embarrassing < 1248712973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fg -> < 1248713008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmm if you compile your kernel as 64-bit code you have to enter long mode before jumping to it from asm right? < 1248713012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that stops you setting up interrupts or sth < 1248713072 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh wait did you start working on your os again? :D < 1248713092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can set up interrupts from 64-bit code. < 1248713097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need some asm stubs. < 1248713105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coolio < 1248713109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: again? < 1248713112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just started! < 1248713116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a side-OS < 1248713117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the main thingy < 1248713151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't mean continuing an existing thing, just starting to play with os stuff again. < 1248713154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ~/Code/poseven/llvm as build and ~/Code/poseven/llvm-src as svn tree is so ugly. < 1248713155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yah < 1248713164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it's almost enough to make me use the auto* build system < 1248713166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for llvm < 1248713210 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248713235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248713337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does llvm's build process suck < 1248713375 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248713377 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-179-168.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1248713687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1248713691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate bikeshedding < 1248713693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't help it < 1248713751 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=152,899 T-Rex never had the "birds and bees" talk < 1248713761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1248713787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: You need to add an interface thingy to that so we can point in click instead of bored and click. < 1248713798 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/weird/dinosaurComicMunger.xhtml < 1248713800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and, not in < 1248713805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248713816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: That lacks a total link :P < 1248713823 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It does. < 1248713825 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E_TOOBAD < 1248713887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=1004,974&panels=0,1 < 1248713900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-Rex has an existential crisis. < 1248713908 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1248713930 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248713947 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he did just realize he's an anachronism ( http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5&comics=37,961,62 ) < 1248713984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=1222,1004&panels=0,3 < 1248713992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deus ex Hamletia. < 1248714011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, XD < 1248714030 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, now I have to fix it and add full-URL support to the munger >_< < 1248714033 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have you done to me?! < 1248714054 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248714067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248714069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=64,535&panels=0,4 < 1248714077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make it piece them together so they're side-by-side. :| < 1248714090 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh :P < 1248714104 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered doing that .... it's still on my "maybe" list < 1248714115 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1248714122 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, dinosaurs wouldn't happen to be ... URBAN LEGENDS? < 1248714147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, it gave me 7 comics < 1248714150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's only 6 panels < 1248714152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the picture splicing done in php < 1248714191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: ?comics=1139,42,89,1000,613,552,734; but 734 doesn't appear < 1248714193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, < 1248714195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=89,552&panels=2,5 < 1248714201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-Rex is a secret pedophile! < 1248714226 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The 7th "panel" is the copyright line. < 1248714229 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes < 1248714230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. XD < 1248714234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guessed that, but wasn't sure. < 1248714242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, comment on ↑ >_> < 1248714249 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: D-8 < 1248714250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed he was a pedophile too < 1248714334 0 :Zuu!i=zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248714335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still on ignore? < 1248714356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not: fingerprint device is too new to be supported under linux yet: http://reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Unsupported_devices#AuthenTec_AES2550_.26_AES2810 < 1248714368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have the "AES2810" model in the laptop) < 1248714369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-Rex doesn't know how to express his feelings: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=1465,1380&panels=0,1 < 1248714483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YEAH http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?comics=1063,644&panels=0,1 < 1248714558 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl @ both of those < 1248714587 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one would be the single worst greeting card you could send to a friend getting a transplant ;P < 1248714681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh, I wonder if I should have llvm-src/ and llvm-bin/ instead of llvm-src/ and llvm/. < 1248714693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's a tree, not just bins. < 1248714699 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anything more trivial has ever been worried about :P < 1248714716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help it >_< < 1248714718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Choose for me! < 1248714728 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave it as it is! < 1248714740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: As is what? I HAVEN'T DECIDED YET ;_; < 1248714744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call name all your folders with consecutive numbers < 1248714748 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call name. < 1248714754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call name :D < 1248714757 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought it had "llvm" for bins as is. < 1248714761 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use "llvm" for bins < 1248714767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Okay. But! < 1248714777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO BUTS THE GREGOR HAS SPOKEN < 1248714791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/poseven/ < 1248714791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/libc/ < 1248714792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/llvm-src/ < 1248714792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/llvm/ < 1248714796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: DON'T YOU SEE A PROBLEM HERE???????? < 1248714832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have an src folder inside llvm, that'd show 'em < 1248714836 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR HAS SPOKEN < 1248714863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: DO YOU WANT TO AFFIRM YOUR OPINION AFTER RECONSIDERING IT BASED ON NEW EVIDENCE OR CHANGE IT???? YOU MUST CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE < 1248714877 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS CONSIDERED < 1248714882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND? < 1248714883 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR REMAINS FIRM IN HIS CONVICTIONS < 1248714895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: JUSTIFY < 1248714903 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR NEEDS NOT JUSTIFICATION < 1248714928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: JUSTIFY… WITH ANUSES < 1248714929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW YOU MUST < 1248714934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1248714937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOUBLE DARE YA < 1248715090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: >_> Fine. :P < 1248715200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how do microkernel systems handle scheduling of hardware? < 1248715201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1248715220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the daemon that talks to the audio hardware isn't run for long enough < 1248715225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your output will stutter < 1248715226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1248715236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dumb luck? < 1248715242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fast computers < 1248715337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's how *most* systems handle scheduling of hardware. < 1248715365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not really; the kernel isn't subject to scheduling in the same way, no? < 1248715374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I hate things like audio stuttering when I run an intensive computation. < 1248715375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit sucks. < 1248715881 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248715916 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Reload the munger. < 1248715928 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248715938 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248715943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reopen, rather; looks good. < 1248715950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I suggest adding a button to randomise only one panel. < 1248715955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To create the perfect story. < 1248715958 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248715959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, select a panel. < 1248715962 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's CLICKING ON THE PANEL < 1248715964 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1248715967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orrrrrr, that. < 1248715973 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people not figure that out X-D < 1248715974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say you could do it by clicking on the panel. < 1248715975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248715982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Because it looks just like a regular image? < 1248715989 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it is :P < 1248715997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't say "Click me to swap!" < 1248716002 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add a line at the bottom, "click on a panel, bonehead!" :P < 1248716008 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-086-081.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248716016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure you understand how UI design works. :P < 1248716063 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite sure I don't. < 1248716068 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw UI design though. < 1248716083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screw everything, says it < 1248716085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i < 1248716086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248716090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is bad day. < 1248716090 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=1493,728 T-Rex has real relationship problems < 1248716101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248716127 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=1189,1041 He and Utahraptor were going to build a time machine, but Utah was all like "screw that noise" < 1248716128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Add the ability to drag the panels to rearrange; you can do it in the URL, after all. < 1248716134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., non-ascending panel numbers. < 1248716142 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, except that in the URL it makes no difference :P < 1248716163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1248716174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, cause, stuff would be better rearranged. >_> < 1248716177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'cause < 1248716197 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah yeah yeah < 1248716204 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it ruins the Dinosaur Comicsitude :P < 1248716210 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=284,950 Last one I do today :P < 1248716218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: So does skipping panels. < 1248716225 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your FACE. < 1248716225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, <3 < 1248716307 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?panels=0,1 makes an awesome forum sig btw :P < 1248716331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forum sigs are evil. < 1248716335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially image ones. < 1248716343 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your face is evil. Especially image ones. < 1248716393 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, the munger will almost certainly not work on IE now, but *eh*, whoTF cares about IE?) < 1248716418 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It may work on IE8. < 1248716427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, though not great, is at least tolerable. < 1248716447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About on par with Mozilla 1.0, standards-support-wise. < 1248716448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't figured out a way to change firefox to english < 1248716457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Now now, it's slightly better than moz 1. < 1248716465 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translateto es English is for the weak. < 1248716474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail. :P < 1248716478 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: Hewwo? :( < 1248716479 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inglés es para los débiles. < 1248716484 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1248716488 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Google. < 1248716498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Options/Preferences → Content → Languages → Choose, I think. < 1248716499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sure; the Mozilla suite was a bloated mess. < 1248716537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the only thing in options is a preference ordering of languages of page content < 1248716551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can check for fun < 1248716555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, but the Firefox UI is built with local web pages. < 1248716564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, set Windows to English. < 1248716579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally my windows is in english < 1248716599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=../../../../etc/passwd < 1248716600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Technically not true. < 1248716603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anonymous' rampage, la la la < 1248716606 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's built with local XUL pages. < 1248716607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248716612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which are web pages. < 1248716618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like using finnish with computers < 1248716628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are a lot like web pages, only with weirder XML. < 1248716628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saves the /etc/passwd locally. < 1248716631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: So set Windows to English. < 1248716652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248716653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=../../../../proc/cpuinfo < 1248716654 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1248716664 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything except firefox and µtorrent is in english < 1248716666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=../../../../proc/uptime < 1248716670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh, okay < 1248716685 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're running 2.6.9 lawl < 1248716685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also wow nobody calls it (mu)Torrent :P < 1248716692 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :started using internet explorer again < 1248716694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what then? < 1248716696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtorrent < 1248716697 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248716699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utorrent? < 1248716703 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248716704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably that < 1248716713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uTorrent, yeah < 1248716714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just happen to know where mu is < 1248716720 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my keyboard < 1248716731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone got a nice exploit for linux 2.6.9? :P < 1248716735 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=../../../../proc/self/maps Weeh :P < 1248716746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get the kernel version from btw? < 1248716749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it on reddit beforehand < 1248716753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: A few. < 1248716758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: gimme! < 1248716760 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: proc/version ... < 1248716761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm british so it's okay. < 1248716768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: right, I don't really know /proc < 1248716769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1248716785 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly < 1248716790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/etc/passwd < 1248716792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No .. needed! < 1248716792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't happen to recall which ones they are. < 1248716805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God. That is so broken. < 1248716809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/var/lib/menu/kde" < 1248716814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…this is a server? < 1248716818 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haw < 1248716821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from /etc/passwd) < 1248716824 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO INSTALLS KDE ON A SERVER. < 1248716856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=../../../../etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf < 1248716863 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haw haw haw < 1248716883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call that a major fail. < 1248716906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Apache running as root or something? < 1248716908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, no /etc/shadow access :P < 1248716913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No; they'll just use shadow. < 1248716914 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Heh, tried :P < 1248716918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shows as a blank page, so. < 1248716918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a no. < 1248716923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/etc/passwd is usually world-readable. < 1248716934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. Shadow. < 1248716941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/etc/group < 1248716941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason that /etc/passwd can be world-readable. < 1248716964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/var/log/dmesg < 1248716973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saving all these like hell :P < 1248716983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/etc/ssh/ssh_config < 1248716989 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case you need them some day? < 1248716997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly! < 1248717004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/etc/hosts < 1248717031 0 :Zuu!n=zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248717032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's RAM info in /proc? < 1248717035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Where's < 1248717058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/meminfo < 1248717079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if you can get /proc/kcore. :P < 1248717082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MemTotal: 4041436 kB < 1248717084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1248717088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less than a GB? < 1248717093 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/diskstats < 1248717107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/areas/visualization/papers_videos/subpage.php?page=/proc/kcore empty :( < 1248717138 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't serve up binaries. < 1248717154 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/cmdline < 1248717167 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel command-line. Whee. < 1248717172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/givemerootline < 1248717185 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/canhasroot < 1248717217 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/self/cmdline was uninteresting :-/ < 1248717279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's down < 1248717289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.research.att.com/ < 1248717290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is down < 1248717309 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get a partial result, just missing half the images :-P < 1248717312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Deewiant: pikhq: < 1248717316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a patched RHEL4 kernel, not just a stock 2.6.9 kernel. < 1248717316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like they're using Red Hat Enterprise Linux (or a clone). It uses a patched version of the 2.6.9 kernel. So, no, you couldn't just use any exploit from the original release of 2.6.9 to today. < 1248717318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1248717319 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/etc/mtab, nothing interesting there either < 1248717330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RHEL *4*? < 1248717338 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's no longer supported. < 1248717342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway... WTF, less than 1GB of RAM? < 1248717342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1248717344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with that? < 1248717353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bloomin' quad-core Xeon. < 1248717361 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it take into account ram disks? < 1248717367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1248717371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably running in Xen. < 1248717378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that < 1248717378 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4041436k is actually four gigs, isn't it? < 1248717384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1248717387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google lied to me. < 1248717388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248717396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe 1000 vs 1024. < 1248717400 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you posted a number somewhere? < 1248717404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see it < 1248717422 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 4041436kb in gb < 1248717423 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, that's 4 million K i.e. 4 gigs < 1248717424 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 downloads completed with 0.00KB (0 bytes) transferred (not reported) ... _> < 1248717449 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4 041 436 kilobytes = 3.85421371 gigabytes" says google-calculamator. < 1248717450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1248717466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I said "kb" not kilobytes; I may have copied wrong or something. < 1248717483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://www.torrentportal.com/details/4041436/IMG/ being "2 jailbaits - Shower Massage Fun.wmv". < 1248717492 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bahahahaha < 1248717504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jailbaits" sounds wrong. How about jailbaitae? Jailbae? Jailbii? < 1248717520 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1248717537 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jailboot. < 1248717549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alibi. < 1248717637 0 :Xiin_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Xiin < 1248717653 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how one pronounces "Xiin" < 1248717666 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Shiin' < 1248717670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheen, where ch is as in bach. < 1248717682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, who are you, Xiin . < 1248717685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ \.$/?/ < 1248717697 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure < 1248717702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did you come from? < 1248717705 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are you familiar enough with regex to decipher things ehird says? :P < 1248717705 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know where this is < 1248717715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a place where we do VOODOO. < 1248717723 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or esoteric programming languages :P < 1248717726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I typo a lot >_> < 1248717733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I type a lot! < 1248717739 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Create a lang called VOODOO < 1248717742 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ehird is correct < 1248717746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because this keyboard sucks; pick your own excuse. < 1248717749 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I remember joining now – I didn't think that there would be anyone in here, though < 1248717770 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you were quite wrong, it seems < 1248717771 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is broken English"? < 1248717779 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha, yes 8-D < 1248717785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xiin: So what did you come in here for? < 1248717789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/So/So,/ < 1248717838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq 1 1000 < 1248717839 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1248717869 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: To test my new colour layout by spamming < 1248717882 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten to do it at all, though < 1248717910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl :P < 1248717919 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq -s\ 1 1000 < 1248717920 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 < 1248717927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq 1 1000 < 1248717927 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1248717969 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq -s '' 1 1000 < 1248717970 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12345678910111213141516171819202122232425262728293031323334353637383940414243444546474849505152535455565758596061626364656667686970717273747576777879808182838485868788899091929394959697989910010110210310410510610710810911011111211311411511611711811912012112212312412512612712812913013113213313413513613713813914014114214314414514614714814915015115215315415515615715815916016116216316416516616716816917017117217317417517617717817918018118218318418518618718 < 1248717987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm testing DCC, silly. < 1248718008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq --help < 1248718008 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: /usr/bin/seq [OPTION]... LAST < 1248718036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh seq -f %b -s '' 1 10 < 1248718037 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/seq: format `%b' has unknown %b directive < 1248718050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abuh? < 1248718057 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1248718066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't glibc have %b? < 1248718073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh: < 1248718074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:06] EgoBot: -f, --format=FORMAT use printf style floating-point FORMAT < 1248718076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not free-form < 1248718099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++) printf("%b", i) < 1248718104 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1248718108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1248718111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Make it C99. < 1248718116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shorter. < 1248718126 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's really cool. Would you like to see it? < 1248718137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm… sure. < 1248718143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use irssi, though. < 1248718146 0 :Zuu_!i=zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248718158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you're in the UK. < 1248718161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. < 1248718179 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but it's so cute < 1248718179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: plzzor >_> < 1248718186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int i; for (i = 0; i < 10; i++) printf("%b", i) < 1248718191 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%b%b%b%b%b%b%b%b%b%b < 1248718193 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Submit a hg bundle and I'll do it :P < 1248718195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1248718198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1248718204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: gimme clone command < 1248718208 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-std=c99 IS A LOT OF WORK < 1248718215 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg clone https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ < 1248718227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: haha you just did about the same amount of work as required to fix it < 1248718235 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup! < 1248718236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by telling me what to do, making a joke, then giving me a relevant command < 1248718245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Thus, logically, you must have no qualm with doing it now yourself! < 1248718246 0 :Zuu_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Zuu < 1248718246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1248718250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*note: logic is not logical < 1248718262 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the principle of the thing. < 1248718273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: people hate logic. < 1248718277 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's the principle of the thing" is what people say when they just don't want to do something. < 1248718285 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, it's the principle of the thing. < 1248718288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: People are idiots. :P < 1248718334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: BTW, with template C. Using [foo] for the syntax has a minor flaw. Namely, that's array notation. ;) < 1248718348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It is in Objective-C, too. < 1248718370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I really need to do it right, instead of hacking it together with the Tcl "subst" command. < 1248718394 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l423/alice-mushroom-soup/Picture7-1-1.png < 1248718402 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh darn it < 1248718404 0 :Xiin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong one < 1248718434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sure, but Objective-C is an extension to C syntax. < 1248718443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, then! < 1248718449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://filebin.ca/rhjpv/shit < 1248718469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This thing is processing it as plain text and watching for [ ] to eval. < 1248718474 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, you actually did it >_< < 1248718476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well make it less shit! < 1248718478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: :) < 1248718479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248718486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I intend to. < 1248718556 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Updated. < 1248718584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printb(42); void printb(int i) { if (!i) putchar('0'); while (i) { r = i % 2; i >>= 1; putchar(i ? '1' : '0'); } } < 1248718585 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1248718590 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx cout << "Pretty sure you broke C++"; < 1248718591 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1248718597 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You broke everything lawl < 1248718598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c puts("fuck"); < 1248718599 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1248718602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did not. < 1248718610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Anyway, gnu99++ is obviously wrong, I think. < 1248718612 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well you broke C++, because gnu99++ is nonsense :P < 1248718615 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gnu++98 < 1248718615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, you know, it's not C++99. < 1248718619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, whatever, do that :P < 1248718636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Anyway, nested functions don't work? < 1248718644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) { printb(42); void printb(int i) { if (!i) putchar('0'); while (i) { r = i % 2; i >>= 1; putchar(i ? '1' : '0'); } } } < 1248718649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is valid gnu99, I think < 1248718656 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should *shrugs* < 1248718665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Actually, can you give me a patch thing to the codebase of EgoBot/HackEgo? < 1248718673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to basically add 2>&1 to the end of all the commands. < 1248718679 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a patch thing"? < 1248718680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of being an opaque "CAN'T COMPILE LOL" thing. < 1248718683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: hg clone line. < 1248718694 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, you already have it for EgoBot < 1248718702 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is the same, with s/egobot/hackbot/ < 1248718733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I mean multibot. < 1248718740 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hackbot/stuff/ < 1248718763 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, that won't change anything. < 1248718770 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because multibot has nothing to do with where the output goes. < 1248718785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'm just going to change runcmd(foo) to runcmd(foo + " 2>&1"); < 1248718791 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :P < 1248718803 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that still won't work. < 1248718809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not? Are you a NAZI? < 1248718811 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just sets IRC_SOCK=/tmp/multibot.foo and runs it, multibot doesn't change where the output goes. < 1248718822 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC, which I probably don't) < 1248718823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL THAT SUCKS. < 1248718846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : setenv("IRC_SOCK", sockName, 1); < 1248718846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : setenv("IRC_NICK", nick, 1); < 1248718846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : setenv("IRC_IDENT", ident, 1); < 1248718846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : setenv("IRC_HOST", host, 1); < 1248718847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : chdir(COMMANDS_DIR); < 1248718847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : execv(newargs[0] + sizeof(COMMANDS_DIR), newargs); < 1248718849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1248718865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: PRIVMSG/tr_21.cmd? < 1248718868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to handle scmds. < 1248718892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: EgoBot's copy is different. < 1248718895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1248718913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: And HackBot's uses /, doesn't it? < 1248718926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOOOO MANY THINGS < 1248718930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx cout << "this work yet?" < 1248718934 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this work yet? < 1248718936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1248719011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Anyway, be a pal. In EgoBot and HackEgo: < 1248719013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : scmds/$CMD "$CMD" "$ARG" "$@" | < 1248719014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :becomes < 1248719017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : scmds/$CMD "$CMD" "$ARG" "$@" 2>&1 | < 1248719124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Wait, gnu++0x? < 1248719127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you CRAZY? < 1248719170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The main-line support of GNU++0x is GNU C++ with C99 features. < 1248719180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know but :P < 1248719181 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More complex work is in a branch. < 1248719223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printb(42); void printb(int i) { if (!i) putchar('0'); while (i) { r = i % 2; i >>= 1; putchar(i ? '1' : '0'); } } < 1248719223 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1248719228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: ADD IT BITCH ;_; < 1248719269 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: >: ) < 1248719279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It's a two-line change dood ;_; < 1248719303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c void printb(int i) { if (!i) putchar('0'); while (i) { r = i % 2; i >>= 1; putchar(i ? '1' : '0'); } }; printb(42); < 1248719306 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1248719311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: :( < 1248719364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'll rip your soul apart. < 1248719373 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm ... soul. < 1248719381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Then poop on it. < 1248719490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: . < 1248719986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. My grandmother is a Palin fan. < 1248720013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“First we kill Bin Laden’s son, then we win in Iraq, and pretty soon we’ll have settled the score with everyone who had nothing to do with 9/11.†< 1248720013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— The Onion < 1248720017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How old is she? < 1248720030 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ~60 < 1248720043 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom is 60 D-8 < 1248720075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I believe my mother is relatively older to me than yours. Ha! < 1248720087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…this is a competition, right? < 1248720091 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently :P < 1248720097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: And your grandmother? < 1248720099 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 60 - 23 < 1248720100 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 - 23 = 37 < 1248720103 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's 83 < 1248720110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:41] GregorR-L: `calc 60 - 23 < 1248720111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:41] HackEgo: 60 - 23 = 37 < 1248720111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:41] GregorR-L: She's 83 < 1248720116 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird's mum is 23? < 1248720119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost spit out my coke before i realised wtf you were talking about xD < 1248720122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wat < 1248720122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately how old my great-grandfather is. < 1248720125 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My GRANDMOTHER is 83 you dog biscuit. < 1248720160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grandmother was like 91 and just died < 1248720164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Anyway, after scientific calculations, I got you beat. Ha. < 1248720174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently there was a significant risk I'd have Down's syndrome…) < 1248720200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be cool to try to become ehird's stepdad < 1248720200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom's like 38... < 1248720233 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I can only conclude that your grandmother was about 13 when she had your mom :P < 1248720239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lawl teen babies < 1248720251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: …how does that follow at all XD < 1248720259 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHWAIT lawl < 1248720265 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid you and pikhq having the same nick length < 1248720290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, wtf@pikhq's family. :P < 1248720293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any inbreeding going on there too? < 1248720308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm my own cousin twice over. < 1248720319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_x < 1248720326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to figure out the family tree that results in that, < 1248720328 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I thought your mom was like 45 when she had you, but your grandmother was currently 60, and I was going >_O < 1248720329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm sure it's incredibly Southern. < 1248720331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm my dad's unborn sister < 1248720341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You know the Hatfields? < 1248720350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No. < 1248720353 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote i'm my dad's unborn sister < 1248720354 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :56| i'm my dad's unborn sister < 1248720368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to enjoy quoting me < 1248720369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a famous feud with the McCoy's? < 1248720379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, I figured that out post-google. < 1248720396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's my mom's side of the family. < 1248720415 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google wertheimer < 1248720416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll ask Wolfram Alpha what being your own cousin twice over implies. < 1248720417 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apr 23, 2009 ... Max Wertheimer (April 15, 1880 October 12, 1943) was a Czech-born Jewish teacher who was one of the three founders of Gestalt psychology, ... \ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Wertheimer - [13]Cached - [14]Similar < 1248720437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input." < 1248720442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what SHE said! < 1248720586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENBRIT/2000-02/0950477670 < 1248720596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I conclude your family tree has a lot of wiggly lines. < 1248720647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, brb → < 1248720663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes. < 1248720684 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EWWWWWWWW < 1248720686 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW < 1248720921 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having sex is a much more fun way to build complex data structures than programming < 1248720962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more like graphs. < 1248721001 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My family tree is planar, damn it < 1248721018 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLANAR YOU HEAR ME < 1248721033 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is a tree afaik. < 1248721039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even worse < 1248721055 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq's isn't even a DAG < 1248721062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248721185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually had to think for a moment to make sure that's not possible :P) < 1248721224 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1248721285 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could add some sorta stepparent relations < 1248721309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you married your grandma, you'd have a stepgrandparent relation to yourself < 1248721827 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=245,509 T-Rex nitpicks < 1248721952 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1248722025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are american girls retarded or something or why can't they just drop it themselves? < 1248722032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never really understood that thing < 1248722288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stupidity of complaining about it may of course be the reason it has become a tv show meme. i just decided i'd mock america when GregorR is near < 1248722319 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would mock your country if it was significant enough for me to have any appreciable knowledge of it. < 1248722321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to create these sorta microthings to myself randomly. < 1248722324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for < 1248722340 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: so would your face < 1248722400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love to move to america, it seems like an awesome country < 1248722412 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all truthness. < 1248722421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or really anything with big cities < 1248722431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really give a shit what the people are like < 1248722438 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microthings have nothing to do with my opinions < 1248722536 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248722703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, there? < 1248722714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be the fastest way to transfer a file over LAN < 1248722717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unencrypted < 1248722735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as low overhead as possible < 1248722747 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, gzip | netcat? < 1248722748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not a single file, but rather a directory of files < 1248722754 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, tar gzip | netcat? < 1248722781 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar zcf - myFavoriteDirectory | netcat -l -p 1234 < 1248722782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, I tried using rsync (not over ssh)... I only get roughly 12 MB/s with it < 1248722804 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, by "unencrypted" and "low overhead" you mean "I actually don't care" :P < 1248722806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait I'm close to maxing network out? < 1248722821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it is 100 mbps in one end < 1248722834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can't go faster than about 12.5 megabyte / sec anyway < 1248722851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, never mind. There are physical limitations preventing going faster :/ < 1248722911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want statistics on how people wipe their asses < 1248722947 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i'm in a great minority, but not that many people have actually shared with me their methods, so can't be sure < 1248722963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, in theory I can get 12.5 MB/s (100 mbit) I'm getting 12.41 MB/s. Which is pretty good considering... < 1248722966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope i didn't interrupt anything, even if i did, this is a more interesting subject < 1248723067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, using -z to rsync to compress slows things down < 1248723068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange < 1248723086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess cpu is more of a limit than network < 1248723293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you just do graphs, or also polls to acquire the data? < 1248723389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I personally don't do polls-for-people, if that's what you mean; when the urge to graph something strikes me, I just try to extricate data from any random existing thing. < 1248723410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then nevermind < 1248723439 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, unminding. < 1248723728 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1&comics=755,482 Baaaaahahah (discovered/munged by a friend of mine) < 1248723732 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: How do those dinosaurComic.php?comics= numbers relate to qwantz.com/index.php?comic= numbers < 1248723754 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Not very well ... when you go to a comic at qwantz.com, look at the URL for the image, that's the number used in my PHP script. < 1248723764 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason there's no logical correspondence though >_> < 1248723787 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph < 1248723826 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have potentially done it in some different way, but I decided I didn't want to parse anything, so I just download comic2-$rand.png < 1248724056 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mind you, I ended up having to parse something anyway ... whoops?) < 1248724098 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be nice if the mapping weren't one-way < 1248724114 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, not much I can do about that though :( < 1248724134 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can create a dinosaurComic2.php that does it right :-P < 1248724143 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can your MOM. < 1248724173 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubtful < 1248724194 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( GregorR-L) That's what SHE said < 1248724317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248724320 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-179-168.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1248724907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1248724987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:55] oklopol: having sex is a much more fun way to build complex data structures than programming < 1248724987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:56] oklopol: maybe more like graphs. < 1248724987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ time travel = cyclic family graphs < 1248725003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:13] oklopol: are american girls retarded or something or why can't they just drop it themselves? < 1248725003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much interbreeding < 1248725083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with time travel, the universe needs garbage collection to get rid of family trees that are completely self-created. < 1248725127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, family trees are only reference-counted. < 1248725151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pikhq how does it feel to have bad genes < 1248725155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they uncomfortable, try khakis < 1248725159 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: at least in futurama < 1248725159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BADUM TISH < 1248725189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You mean that wasn't a documentary? < 1248725215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inbreeding not interbreeding < 1248725222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how recently inbreeding happened in this family < 1248725223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentary on a dude who went back in time and had sex with his grandma? < 1248725231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a site where they magically learn about babies < 1248725233 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes maybe it was < 1248725237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assemble a family tree? < 1248725320 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be a completely detached family tree, you'd have to go back in time and have sex with your descendant who also went back in time to have sex with you, thereby establishing yourself as your own n-great grandfather. < 1248725335 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even then, some jerk would go and have sex outside the family I'm sure. < 1248725357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway becoming your own parent is wildly unlikely < 1248725358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1248725364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely you'll be birthed by other means < 1248725368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you just get an extra sibling < 1248725379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sensible universe you probably want to garbage-collect all even partly self-supported parts < 1248725390 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's like Futuruma. < 1248725405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah but the odds against a fry situation are incredibly minimal < 1248725410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248725412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, flipt hat < 1248725415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*flip that < 1248725417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or reverse it < 1248725418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and incredibly well defined. < 1248725420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, your nominal grandfather gets blasted by a nuclear test. < 1248725427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While you're banging your grandmother. < 1248725432 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say about 2%. < 1248725456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, why am i in a time travel discussion < 1248725456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1248725474 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1248725487 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The much-coveted "less than or minus" operator < 1248725506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248725518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: x < y || x - y < 1248725521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cool < 1248725546 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's build an esolang around it! < 1248725555 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booleans are "0 == true" and "1 == false" btw < 1248725590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> def op(x, y): return int(x < y or x - y) < 1248725590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248725590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> op(15, 30) < 1248725590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1248725590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> op(30, 15) < 1248725591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1248725594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta be useful for something! < 1248725597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: i'd prefer it being more like < 1248725613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x < y: return x else: return x - y < 1248725632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is basically "minus but NO NEGATIVES PLZ" < 1248725633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1248725638 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1248725640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what "less than or minus" conveys to me < 1248725671 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t ((<)||negate) < 1248725708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t "Anybody there?" < 1248725709 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anybody there?" :: [Char] < 1248725711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x <- y = x < y || x - y < 1248725719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most useless operator ever. < 1248725724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because it doesn't type. < 1248725729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's not that < 1248725737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yup. < 1248725745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of: < 1248725747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :def op(x, y): return int(x < y or x - y) < 1248725748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1248725756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :def op(x, y): return x if x < y else x - y < 1248725761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter being arguably more useful < 1248725763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t \x y -> x < y || x - y < 1248725768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"take this away as long as it doesn't fuck up" < 1248725772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well okay num bool < 1248725785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone harass gwern to get ourselves \bot back < 1248725788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck doesn't it answer < 1248725788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: did you ever do the 2>&1 thing? < 1248725795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not ghci < 1248725802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: don't bother if it cannot be permanent < 1248725814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what cannot be < 1248725816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\bot? < 1248725818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\bot < 1248725821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1248725877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it will just be annoying next time it disconnects again < 1248725885 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, Lambdabot is free software. < 1248725893 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehird, you could totally run a \bot. < 1248725903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not worth it. < 1248725909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a shitfucking pain to compile. < 1248725912 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes he has _very_ messed up priorities there < 1248725918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quite :P < 1248725976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if something cannot be perfect, i cannot bother doing it at all :( < 1248726008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it is also trivial. < 1248726009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a mathematician. < 1248726063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought like that onc < 1248726063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1248726070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that personality quirk may be the reason i went into mathematics. < 1248726073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i realised that it reduced all projects to "induce singularity" < 1248726080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i dropped it < 1248726103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You mean not all your projects are "induce singularity"? < 1248726115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funnily enough, no. < 1248726141 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll induce YOUR singularity < 1248726170 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has this idea of running an IRC bot written in Migol, running on a DS acting as a server < 1248726174 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good or bad idea? < 1248726184 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD < 1248726186 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy to actually buy a server < 1248726197 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buying a server would be bad < 1248726205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Laptops make good home servers. < 1248726219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Small, can easily be run headless, and quiet < 1248726221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1248726226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, cheap. < 1248726279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: A DS acting as a server? < 1248726291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: A Nintendo DS. < 1248726294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1248726299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just saying re: buying a server. < 1248726305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. < 1248726311 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, A DS running a Migol interpreter written as DS homebrew < 1248726315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can get a 9" Dell laptop for, like, £100. < 1248726319 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That connects to the IRC server < 1248726323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, expensive vs £0. < 1248726327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Just write it for Linux. < 1248726338 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, DSLinux is sloow ._. < 1248726338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DS doesn't have an MMU, pikhq. < 1248726344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So… not the best choice of OS. < 1248726352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ucLinux doesn't need an MMU. < 1248726360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1248726366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DS has very lwo resources. < 1248726367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*low < 1248726372 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1248726375 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's part of the fun :P < 1248726382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but layering Linux on top won't help any. < 1248726428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has multiprocessing, though. < 1248726437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your mom. < 1248726544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't. Atheists can be nice people too. But people that REALLY BELIEVE that they will be on hell for eternity don't commit crimes." < 1248726545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ lawl < 1248726565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Yeah, they believe that god is watching their every move and that they will go to hell if they commit the crime... but they think "hey, what the hell, hell seems nice".]] < 1248726566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ …does anyone actually think that? < 1248726601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about people who think they've already been so bad they'll go to hell anyway? < 1248726617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS WILL CLEANSE YOU OF YOUR SINS < 1248726677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1248726688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to link an ELF operating system I need a cross-compiler bintools thing < 1248726696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*binutils < 1248726702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(w/ clang/LLVM) < 1248726796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One of the outcomes of the initial attempt to port Hurd to the L4 microkernel was an effort to make Hurd more microkernel independent, rather than relying solely on the Mach interfaces." < 1248726802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so ridiculous < 1248726804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1248726870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1248726872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Hurd process, on the other hand, runs under a set of user ids, which can contain multiple ids, one, or none." < 1248726878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does this interact with getuid()? < 1248726959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this applies to the current development version, and not to the last release (0.2). We encourage everybody who is interested to try out the latest development version, and send feedback to the Hurd developers.[…]That said, the last official release of the Hurd without the Debian parts was 0.2 done in 1997. < 1248726969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't use the last version (which happens to be from 1997)" < 1248726975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was written this year :P < 1248726998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People already expect delays; to disappoint them in this way as well would be unfortunate." < 1248727006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…no…we expect it to die a slow and painful death. < 1248727032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: GregorR-L: There's a guy who actually uses Hurd as his desktop OS. < 1248727042 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find this unsurprising. < 1248727051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has done for TWO YEARS. < 1248727055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd/status.html < 1248727086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if it was, like, 10 years, that'd be more understandable. < 1248727102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A crazy person who got involved when it still looked feasible and is too stubborn to get out. < 1248727108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But to decide, in 2007, to switch to the Hurd? < 1248727116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insane. < 1248727290 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: a slow and painful death is just a delay that got out of control < 1248727302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1248727327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "You have cancer. This will result in a wild delay." < 1248727397 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly that's a result of delaying quitting smoking. see? < 1248727405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248727426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "You have cancer completely randomly. This will result in a wild delay." < 1248727432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a result of delaying not having cancer! < 1248727471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q3. Why bother writing a new OS when we have Linux and 386/BSD? < 1248727472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, Linux and BSD don't scale well. Hardware designers are < 1248727472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shifting more and more toward multiprocessor machines for performance, < 1248727472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and standard Unix kernels do not provide much multiprocessor support. < 1248727475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubbish, it's a result of delaying your cancer checkups. some stupid people let it go several _years_ without them. < 1248727491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's an incurable type of cancer, so that wouldn't help < 1248727528 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cancer is incurable if you catch it early enough. nanobots will help us there. < 1248727540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in the future perhaps. < 1248727585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, how many tragedies have not been caused by this irresponsible delaying of the future. < 1248727617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248727634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248727637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1248727654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't figure out how to organise this properly < 1248727666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Hurd-ng is an effort to build a new operating system that preserves the main design goals of the Hurd while fixing some of the Hurd's shortcomings. There is not yet an official roadmap or a concrete specification; indeed, much of the work is research oriented." < 1248727678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HURD WORKS TOO MUCH. MUST REINVENT." < 1248727707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yup. < 1248727726 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, sounds like a research project. < 1248727809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/env/src/llvm/ → ~/Code/poseven/env/bin/ < 1248727819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/Code/poseven/env/src/binutils/ → ~/Code/poseven/env/bin/ < 1248727820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks < 1248727827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then ~/Code/poseven/other shit < 1248727831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/\// < 1248727966 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that pos-even or po-seven? < 1248728012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pun on posix < 1248728014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so po-seven < 1248728025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1248728037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't we get that < 1248728038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name is aesthetically pleasing, although interestingly only in lowercase < 1248728038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how poeightical < 1248728049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i mentioned it when i came up with it, iirc :P < 1248728050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier today < 1248728052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hyuk hyuk hyuk < 1248728071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i must not have read that < 1248728108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have *seen* the message where you said it, but i don't read all logs i browse. < 1248728123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just skim for keywords < 1248728147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could go on even further, potentially < 1248728161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean¨ < 1248728166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-¨ < 1248728177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: after a while it'll just be ponine and lose its charm < 1248728222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, after that. < 1248728242 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poten-tial < 1248728258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ponine get it < 1248728259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :benign < 1248728300 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i was busy getting oerjan's slightly simpler pun. < 1248728321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poetic. < 1248728322 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't got ehird's < 1248728330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ponine/benign < 1248728396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binutils time! < 1248728398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to like with gold. < 1248728401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clang, LLVM and gold. < 1248728404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so EDGY. < 1248728581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248728591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have something in /usr/src/foo, where do you put your build directory? < 1248728618 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bob-the-builder/misc/foo < 1248728628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: o_x < 1248728630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1248728639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's can we fix it < 1248728641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not can we build it < 1248728641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly < 1248728663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen him build things too < 1248728833 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that "frank the fixer" exists < 1248728895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION discards the one google hit with both in it < 1248728964 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5&comics=859,1340,115 Happy Canada Day everyone! < 1248728992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248729016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: link to the munger < 1248729023 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/weird/dinosaurComicMunger.xhtml < 1248729029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: you're rather late for that < 1248729045 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WELL THE COMIC IS STILL FUNNY SO BLEH :P < 1248729096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=1,2&comics=1213,209 < 1248729107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A proof of shit being recognized as bananas. < 1248729176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,3,5&comics=1140,1106,560 < 1248729185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-Rex explores alternate history; dodos. < 1248729208 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248729313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universe where nobody ever dies? Man. < 1248729338 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw rocket cars. Nuclear propulsion cars. < 1248729349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black hole cars < 1248729359 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if nobody ever dies, those would be safe < 1248729359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: You could still be in a coma for the rest of your life :P < 1248729371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that won't actually go at any pace. < 1248729396 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The primary risk from a nuclear propulsion car would be the radiation causing cancer. < 1248729397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,4&comics=1038,787 < 1248729401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zombie crackers! < 1248729415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't die, then cancer treatment would be pretty damned effective. < 1248729440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death is kind of meaningless if you can still come to arbitrary amounts of harm. < 1248729459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, someone answer my build path question. < 1248729465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build path of /usr/src/foo = ??? < 1248729467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248729485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248729510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=4,5&comics=684,1439 < 1248729553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=1,5&comics=918,157 < 1248729658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Physical buttons have the unique ability to provide low-attention and vision-free interactions through their intuitive tactile clues. Unfortunately, the physicality of these interfaces makes them static, limiting the number and types of user interfaces they can support. On the other hand, touch screen technologies provide the ultimate interface flexibility, but offer no inherent tactile qualities. In this paper, we describe a technique that seeks to occupy < 1248729659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The outcome of our investigations is a visual display that contains deformable areas, able to produce physical buttons and other interface elements. These tactile features can be dynamically brought into and out of the interface, and otherwise manipulated under program control. The surfaces we describe provide the full dynamics of a visual display (through rear projection) as well as allowing for multitouch input (though an infrared lighting and camera setu < 1248729662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! < 1248729677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/pneumaticdisplays/ < 1248729681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buttonable touchscreens. < 1248729693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: LCARS HAS BEEN INVENTED! < 1248729710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's not _quite_ arbitrary though, I don't think. < 1248729711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248729719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Still. < 1248729724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "as well as allowing for multitouch input (though an infrared lighting and camera setup behind the display" < 1248729733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not gonna be very good multitouch. < 1248729743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The tactile areas are actually fixed < 1248729748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to keep stuff in the same place < 1248729751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is very much proof of concept. < 1248729775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no real way to have arbitrary push-areas with this technology, I don't think. < 1248729790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still pretty sweet, though. < 1248729793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1248729872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, if you had a very large number of tiny cells, you could *maybe* get arbitrary push-areas. < 1248729883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I doubt that'd be practical. < 1248729893 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or very nice to use. < 1248729927 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, something at least vaguely like that would actually make for nice computer UIs. < 1248729976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: They could only be one phyxel big, though. < 1248729979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, no rectangles. < 1248729982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it'd be ridged. < 1248729989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, these won't be clacky. < 1248729992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More latex-feeling. < 1248730011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, not all that nice. < 1248730076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/src/build, I think. < 1248730305 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,1,5&comics=859,1340,115&strip Whoot new feature < 1248730312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1248730326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: doesn't add &strip to the bottom line < 1248730335 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fixy* < 1248730396 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixt < 1248730538 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah, accidental additional feature: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=0,0,0,0,0&strip < 1248730551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248730570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: http://codu.org/imgs/dinosaurComic.php?panels=1,0&comics=1510,181&strip < 1248730573 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason that didn't work before is that it was overwriting the same place with new content *shrugs* < 1248730585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1248730590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too many panels!" :( < 1248730593 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that your SUBTLE way of telling my script is BETTER THAN EVER and JOYFUL?! < 1248730599 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seven is your max, too bad ;) < 1248730621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Haha, I didn't even think of it as a compliment on the script, but it makes most sense that way. < 1248730779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs bochs < 1248730784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poseven will be pretty cool ^_^ < 1248730809 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I JUST got that name. < 1248730813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bochs @2.3.7 (emulators) < 1248730813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Variants: smp, universal < 1248730813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Does smp let you run multiple virtual cores on multiple real cores? < 1248730819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Wow, people really don't get it, do they? < 1248730822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol didn't either :P < 1248730843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it as pos-even. < 1248730849 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought three because I have a friend that always seems three talk like that ... < 1248730850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was like "Uh?" < 1248730850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO DID OKLOPOL :P < 1248730860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: …wat? < 1248730876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, poseven just looks nice lowercased. < 1248730890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Oh, "to" → "two" :P < 1248731138 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not read it as pos-even, i did not realize it could be a pun! < 1248731154 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not overestimate my non-gettings < 1248731160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248731172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought it was a pretty word. < 1248731184 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, I thought it was an ugly word. < 1248731240 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's not nice to laugh at stupid people. < 1248731262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poseven isn't ugly. < 1248731337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's the most beautiful poN of all naturals. < 1248731345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what irrtates me? < 1248731351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get bochs to run a different thingy < 1248731352 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-naturals < 1248731355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to change the config file. < 1248731360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyyyyy < 1248731361 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes the pun better, and N already implies that < 1248731384 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Because bochs is poorly designed on the UI front. < 1248731392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know but fff < 1248731395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, good night sleep happy dream time. < 1248731396 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248731397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least let me do "bochs shit" < 1248731397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1248731416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "e /opt/local/share/bochs/bochsrc.txt && bochs" < 1248731503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1248731511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there another way? < 1248731704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1248731705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -f configfile specify configuration file < 1248731706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bleh < 1248731769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Create a disk image for the emulator. < 1248731769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -cd /opt/local/share/bochs < 1248731769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -sudo bximage (prompts will guide you) < 1248731769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -sudo chmod 777 < 1248731770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) Remove the current 'ata0-master:' statement in /opt/local/share/bochs/bochsrc.txt < 1248731770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and replace it with the 'ata0-master:' string displayed at the end of the bximage < 1248731771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : process. < 1248731775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder wtf it uses that for < 1248732009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1248732041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the hard drive i think < 1248732048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't matter if you're e.g. making a bootable floppy < 1248732073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh that kind of limits your options < 1248732524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure is active around here < 1248733227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1248733370 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248733380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1248733480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1248733483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o´o < 1248733557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\FUCK < 1248733558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248733559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1248733560 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan youve got something on your forehead < 1248733560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1248733563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's smaller < 1248733564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o o . o < 1248733565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG < 1248733570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY CLIENT IS MAKING SMILIES SMALLER < 1248733572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNEW IT < 1248733573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT STIL LTEXT < 1248733575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAAHHAHA < 1248733578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONSPIRACY UNWOUND < 1248733579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that client < 1248733588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird what < 1248733597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HHAAHAHA I DEFEATED MY CLIENT'S PLOT < 1248733880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ã’.ó < 1248733961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø.¤ < 1248733993 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø.ø < 1248734005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1248734011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lazy. < 1248734016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Øh, that Ørjan. He Kan tell yøu that møøse bites Kan be prity nasti. < 1248734037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoots mon there's a moose loose aboot this hoose < 1248734080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hæve never been bytten by a møøse < 1248734140 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1248734153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: you are a crap king < 1248734190 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no comment < 1248734199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: more like co nomment < 1248734201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amirite < 1248734227 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// comment < 1248734242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ om nom nom nomment < 1248734248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^/\// < 1248734850 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1248734854 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1248735293 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is funnier, www.t-rex-is-lonely-comics.com or www.dinosaur-comics-minus-the-others.com < 1248735334 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second instantly makes me think of Garfield-minus-garfield < 1248735355 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/-/ /g < 1248735387 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that was the reference. < 1248735399 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what a friend of mine wanted to call it. < 1248735407 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still like T-Rex is Lonely Comics < 1248735409 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr < 1248735411 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're both pretty good. < 1248735417 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1248735419 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are such ripoffs :| < 1248735427 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... by definition? < 1248735435 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer the first one, yeah < 1248735435 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1248735482 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes, good for you, you've noticed that this is not a new concept? < 1248735500 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1248735519 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a ripoff of g-g AND dinosaur comics! < 1248735519 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1248735560 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is an application of the idea behind g-g to Dinosaur Comics. < 1248735582 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ALL THINGS DERIVATIVE IN ANY WAY ARE EVIL < 1248735605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivatives arent evil! < 1248735611 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANTIderivatives are < 1248735623 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :derivatives you can atleast find for any function. :| < 1248735653 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to credit g-g and dinocomics < 1248735656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats augur for using words that others have used -----### < 1248735695 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :words are not copyrighted ideas < 1248735703 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are opensource < 1248735705 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just that < 1248735705 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they < 1248735708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re public domain < 1248735743 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if they're trademarked? < 1248735755 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even then < 1248735759 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248735762 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1248735765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : be sure to credit g-g and dinocomics // duuuuuuuuuuuuh < 1248735774 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trademark isnt quite the same as copyright < 1248735786 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its more naming right < 1248735810 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, trademarks go away when the speech community de-brandifies a word < 1248735816 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not completely public domain then? (or is it?) < 1248735844 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, sort of? if public domain is a copyright thing, then maybe < 1248735847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1248735865 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think trademark intersects public domain < 1248735866 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might < 1248735873 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might need to reconceptualize that < 1248735960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1248736431 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248736897 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1248736952 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.254.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248737017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:54] GregorR: Which is funnier, www.t-rex-is-lonely-comics.com or www.dinosaur-comics-minus-the-others.com < 1248737022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dinosaurs-cant-actually-talk.com < 1248737047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: t-rex-only-qwantz < 1248737050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.com < 1248737070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you LIAR, that doesn't exist < 1248737080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ... < 1248737085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's asking for domain name suggestions < 1248737107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248737238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: anyway not actually worth a domain < 1248737268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domains are cheap. < 1248737277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but < 1248737279 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incoming "so is you mother" from ehird) < 1248737283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1248737284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also < 1248737289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless getting one for something that is hard to find a good domain for < 1248737292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will not be popular at all < 1248737328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha today's dinosaur comic is amazing < 1248737723 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248737746 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh, obviously it would be fiber, not dialup < 1248737759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah dinosaur comics are all about fiber < 1248737763 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1248737779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: perhaps you meant "AnMaster: "? :p < 1248737799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248737804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"connecting via dialup to boner central" < 1248737806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rightyho < 1248737851 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: curiously, AnMaster is not here < 1248737856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not talking < 1248737862 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nighty < 1248737865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't know that < 1248737882 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1248737902 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248738767 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248738987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can the hurd boot via grub 2? :D < 1248739170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; Grub 2 also implements Multiboot. < 1248739193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man it'd be so fun to have a "top of the line" gnu system < 1248739196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grub 2 booting hurd