< 1249603303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1249603371 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1249603402 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249603653 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249604111 0 :meanburrito920_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :meanburrito920 < 1249604187 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249604307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1249605123 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://corefault.de/uploads/2009-07-31_140758_webgui.jpg < 1249605129 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not put the baby in this book. < 1249605152 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you droo a moustache on it < 1249605433 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not mein! < 1249605438 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's a university's admission book < 1249605654 0 :NoiseIncreaser!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1249606161 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249606606 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to kind of remember that book. < 1249606620 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1249606765 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249607791 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1249609267 0 :meanburrito920!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1249609498 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@65.215.113.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249609641 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249609659 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249609660 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you see that now I have a formatted IRC log too, for each channels, in HTML format? < 1249609696 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please other people can save the log too while I am not < 1249609735 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1249609737 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1249609752 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: fyi it's considered incredibly bad taste to log channels without asking, in general < 1249609756 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and often gets you banned < 1249609765 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they are my own channels that I created < 1249609771 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249609776 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1249609787 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/irclog/ < 1249609800 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My projects are on IRCNET however, not Freenode < 1249609820 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd join but I can't be bothered to connect to another server for the purpose < 1249609826 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do you know TheDailyWTF? I posted some FlogScript codes there too < 1249609834 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can view the logs without going to IRCNET < 1249609843 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :viewing logs != talking < 1249609878 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you want the codes for the log module (it is a PHP module for PHIRC, and then a CRISC script also for automating set-up of logging on the channels) < 1249609919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think you could learn a less awful language, like Perl, INTER < 1249609921 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they add support for modeless channels to Freenode then I might move the channels to Freenode < 1249609925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAL, or Malbolge? < 1249609949 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why does it need to be modeless < 1249609972 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TDWTF has "Programming Praxis" challenges where you post the codes in whatever way you want it posted, including your own way, I wanted to do code-golfing so I did. < 1249610000 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few other esoteric languages used there too < 1249610005 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why does it need to be modeless < 1249610006 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I find the time, I'm doing this one in library-less INTERCAL < 1249610019 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I want it modeless, that's why. < 1249610030 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so it being modeless trumps anyone actually talking there? < 1249610035 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure you understand what irc is for < 1249610040 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one are you doing in library-less INTERCAL? < 1249610196 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also set my client to beep when anyone joins in that window, so I can be notified if someone joins. The titlebar also flashes whenever anything other than PING or ignored messages is received < 1249610267 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gonna answer me? < 1249610339 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1249610347 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helpful < 1249610442 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, I don't know. < 1249610959 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249611088 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249611147 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an example of the logging software: http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/irclog/PHIRC/20090806.html < 1249611193 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249611789 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249612972 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249614137 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249616123 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1249616549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249617244 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249618620 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249618687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf .+++++++.>+.<+++.>-..<.,,,[-].+.-.++++++++++.>.<--.>.,+[,.]++.>[-]+++++++++++++++++.<++.>-------.>[-]+[[-].+..+++++++++.,,,.]++.-.-.++++++++++. < 1249618694 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf < 1249618749 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes that there's indication in there that it's PSOX
< 1249619124 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1249619138 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249619204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1249619212 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1249619330 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yourworldoftext.com/static < 1249619938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249619977 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249620700 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249621079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1249622174 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1249622876 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-236-168-223.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1249623905 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249623985 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249624171 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just discovered PRIMARY
< 1249624173 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1249624185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, the prime material plane? < 1249624186 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1249624355 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249624359 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the X selections < 1249624378 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely that it lets you copy without the clipboard on intelligent applications < 1249624390 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can keep stuff clipboarded for later use < 1249624420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1249624997 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1249625005 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :select text without copying, then middle-click somewhere < 1249625108 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1249625139 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1249625289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm very well aware of it. < 1249625331 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "clipboard" is a higher-level abstraction offered by the GTK+ and Qt toolkits. < 1249625344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite different from the X selection buffer that X has had for ages. < 1249625521 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they use the X selections in the same way, so all is happy < 1249625715 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they don't. 100% completely different. < 1249625765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just a different buffer for things to be stored. The two are completely independent of each other. < 1249627222 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, shit sucks < 1249627475 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249627585 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"On the other hand, you have different fingers." < 1249627614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Yup. < 1249627697 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still live in colorado right? < 1249627722 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what school are you going to? < 1249627897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Missouri. < 1249627909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to live in Colorado. < 1249627914 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1249627921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, I'm going to the Missouri University of Science & Technology. < 1249627938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is to say, the only academically notable place in this entire state) < 1249627946 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can imagine < 1249627987 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-31.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1249630417 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249631999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1249632000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1249634563 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-1-34.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249637062 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1249638139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249639221 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249639393 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249639542 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-8-203.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249641526 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok < 1249641538 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1249641542 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach me finnish. < 1249641543 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now. < 1249641547 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 5 minutes < 1249641554 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole finnish? < 1249641557 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249641567 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd get an excess flood! < 1249641572 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1249641574 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :condense it < 1249641596 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, first of all the word for "to slumber" is "uinua" < 1249641614 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1249641620 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i know finnish yet? < 1249641640 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn you a Finnish. < 1249641647 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249641651 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'd say you know most of it < 1249641653 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should write that. < 1249641665 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to see a language-learning site for coders. < 1249641682 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that isnt afraid to use theory-relevant stuff, too. < 1249641701 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where like < 1249641727 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're a computational linguist, you'll learn it really quickly. < 1249641738 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if youre just a coder or a linguist, rather quickly < 1249641748 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if youre neither, you wont learn it at all because you're dumb. < 1249641755 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249641759 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1249641773 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, do one for finnish. < 1249641782 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not a linguist! < 1249641788 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you ARE a coder! < 1249641807 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhat, yes < 1249641812 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, do it. < 1249641816 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.............................. < 1249641820 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing. < 1249641821 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttt < 1249641827 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobutt. :D < 1249641837 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't, fizzie can do it < 1249641845 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :okloput < 1249641847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie do you speak finnish fluently? < 1249641853 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1249641864 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny because he lives in helsinki < 1249641875 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he? < 1249641877 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then! < 1249641879 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do it < 1249641880 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak anything very fluently, but this IRC client text input box displays "fl" and "fi" as ligatures. < 1249641894 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flnnish. < 1249641973 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flinnish. < 1249641985 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, where did that extra i come from. < 1249642007 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you should do it. seriously. < 1249642016 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it up using some formal grammar < 1249642033 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen the use of language learning sites, the only hard part is to learn the vocab, and there's no magic bullet for that; i mean there are tricks, sure, but it's still a fucking quadrillion word ride < 1249642041 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know grammar books < 1249642043 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything < 1249642053 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar can be tricky in some languages < 1249642056 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you learn the words, just read a few pages from a book and you'll know it all < 1249642057 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the language, ofcourse < 1249642058 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1249642064 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I have an affinity for writing things. < 1249642094 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted, a good grammar book written for smart readers can be condensed to a few dozen pages, for most stuff < 1249642096 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are nuances < 1249642120 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :italian is relatively similar to english, but even so there need to be a bunch of specifications of the differences < 1249642123 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd differences too < 1249642134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones that dont easily map to english < 1249642153 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure a very smart reader can guess the odd differences! < 1249642164 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe from lots of practice! < 1249642192 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of things that would be simplified, tho, with just a simple formal treatment < 1249642219 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much of commonly used italian grammar could be condensed down to like two or three pages of tree diagrams and stuff < 1249642242 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1249642266 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know "noun adj", the rest comes naturally < 1249642278 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm like totally fluent in italian) < 1249642280 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and incidentally, I still don't live in Helsinki; I live in Espoo, which (despite several attempts) has not yet transmogrified into one big city with Helsinki. I think I pointed this out once already. < 1249642304 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"head movement to T in for non-aux T's, object shift for non-3p.pl pronouns, optional WH movement with T-to-C" < 1249642308 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, then again my joke was, for some reason, completely missed by augur anyway < 1249642312 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that describes a huge portion of the differences < 1249642333 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's as if he doesn't know what a guy in turku could joke about in someone from helsinki < 1249642333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"espoo" hahaha < 1249642339 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249642358 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Espoon_Tapiola_kesällä.jpg <3 < 1249642435 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was about to say that was a goddamn sexy view, but when i saw the kids, i figured it might be a bit inappropriate < 1249642446 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1249642458 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey youre the one who had a 13 year old girlfriend when you were 19 < 1249642462 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1249642467 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was *18* < 1249642472 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1249642473 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1249642474 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249642477 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedo < 1249642493 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput, be my finnish boyfriend. ill pretend im 13 < 1249642516 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey augur < 1249642519 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1249642519 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knock knock < 1249642522 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1249642525 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go away < 1249642525 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knock knock < 1249642536 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13-yo's are physically adults, they're just stupider < 1249642544 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4chan partyvan, augur < 1249642548 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open the door! < 1249642571 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: and with smaller cocks. < 1249642610 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, umm, i guess. < 1249642635 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't you done a comparative study? < 1249642665 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know very little about people's cocks after about 12, because i haven't seen one in years < 1249642680 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput, shame. < 1249642686 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should fix this. < 1249642688 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i may have seen tons in the sauna < 1249642705 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocks are lovely things. < 1249642708 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in erection, though < 1249642714 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you went to that kind of sauna < 1249642715 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially uncut cocks, which im sure finnish cocks are. < 1249642731 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: i'm not sure i've seen another man's erection irl, ever < 1249642755 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait that's another lie, there was this one dude once who started stroking his in the sauna when i was a kid < 1249642762 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249642776 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput, if i build a sauna, will you come sit in it? :o < 1249642779 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true story, my shortest swimming trip ever < 1249642814 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1249642822 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have nothing against naked mixed gender sauna with strangers < 1249642832 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1249642837 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, probably i would < 1249642840 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust me < 1249642846 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur's sauna won't be mixed genders < 1249642848 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about hot sauna sex? < 1249642871 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: well it could be. i dont care if girls are there. as long as i dont have to fuck them what do i care < 1249642872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1249642874 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sauna is not so good for sex < 1249642882 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to the right saunas < 1249642884 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least if over 60 < 1249642888 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :celsius < 1249642901 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sauna sex is a good way to get a stroke < 1249642903 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we could turn off the heat and generate some ourselves, so < 1249642985 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i need to go to the shoppe now < 1249643002 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're doing something wrong if you generate ~80 degrees Celsius of body heat. < 1249643025 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or something very very right ;D < 1249643029 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: that, plus usually the seats are not very comfy, there are some technical difficulties < 1249643055 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they sell these special "sauna pillow" things. < 1249643065 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, augur, how do you want to get the horse in the sauna < 1249643066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have one, I've never quite understood the point of it. < 1249643069 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can get interesting positions if you're not afraid to use the rail... well, assuming traditional finnish sauna blueprints < 1249643089 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah: well we'll work on that < 1249643093 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also get interesting burns if something slips, I assume. < 1249643120 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew a girl who sat on a sauna stove (is that what "kiuas" officially is) at the age of four or something. < 1249643139 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i'd love to install kiuas in the english language < 1249643156 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they already fucked up sauna in pronunciation < 1249643161 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sauna's already in there, why not all related paraphernalia. < 1249643165 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOOONA. < 1249643170 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1249643177 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not said sooooooona in nglish < 1249643197 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how then? < 1249643198 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're using that to mean the sound in the word "saw" < 1249643202 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"saw-nuh" < 1249643206 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was < 1249643215 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said it to me, the other finn < 1249643217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, you have to read the "soooona" word like a Finn would, also. < 1249643236 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know how "ooooooooo" would be pronounced by a finn < 1249643249 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: o is always the "aw" thing < 1249643253 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1249643263 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish has the same vowels as lojban, except for y < 1249643270 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i presume "sauna" is "sah-oo-nuh"? < 1249643276 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lojban y is � in finnish < 1249643280 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sah-oo-nah < 1249643299 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is nah < 1249643302 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ah < 1249643303 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pronounced < 1249643305 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1249643311 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sau like sound < 1249643314 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah like not < 1249643320 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1249643324 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly like that < 1249643366 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you cant really blame english speakers for doing it wrong < 1249643373 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they adopt words using the spelling as a guide < 1249643377 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't, i was just making a joke. < 1249643383 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they use english pronunciation for the spelling < 1249643407 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and au in english is finnish o < 1249643425 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I didn't know is that it's a verb too, according to Wiktionary. < 1249643429 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"to sauna (third-person singular simple present saunas, present participle saunaing, simple past and past participle saunaed)" < 1249643441 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every noun can be used as a verb in english < 1249643444 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you saunaing today? < 1249643460 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great saunation so far < 1249643505 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunation? < 1249643531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon shall be the time of the Great Saunification. < 1249643561 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: as a finn, i find that a natural way to abuse your language < 1249643570 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly fizzie agrees. < 1249643584 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunification is grammatical, saunation isnt < 1249643589 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunation is just weird < 1249643648 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's from the verb saunate, which clearly has something to do with sauna < 1249643652 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's "tarnation", there should be "saunation". < 1249643662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saunate is a verb now? < 1249643665 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the saunation?! You haven't saunaed at all today?! < 1249643679 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phrase is "what in tarnation" < 1249643681 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit like the smurfs do, except, you know, boiling heat. < 1249643688 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well. < 1249643695 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's not completely a verb. < 1249643712 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tarnation is also not from "tarnate" < 1249643715 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its from "entire nation" < 1249643726 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really don't try to make my purposefully horrible word bendings grammatical < 1249643733 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1249643740 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i shouldn't < 1249643742 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theyre better when theyre grammatical but nonsensical < 1249643755 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what most finns say about my finnish bends < 1249643759 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249643786 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lolling matter < 1249643793 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL < 1249643828 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. what if you made childish porn < 1249643833 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1249643847 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random word association < 1249643863 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think /you/ should make porn < 1249643869 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've made porn < 1249643875 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gimme :o < 1249643883 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's with girls, you wouldn't like it < 1249643886 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats ok < 1249643889 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it has you in it :D < 1249643894 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1249643914 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt i have anything left, and i probably wouldn't give it to you < 1249643952 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1249643959 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249643964 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meany < 1249643980 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meany is not adjective < 1249643984 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1249643985 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a noun. < 1249643989 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1249643992 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is. < 1249643994 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1249643997 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1249644002 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will go check?? < 1249644026 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively spelled meanie < 1249644030 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/meanie < 1249644031 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what do you know it's an alternate spelling i haven't seen < 1249644055 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was, though, exactly how i planned this conversation to go < 1249644066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with you being wrong? < 1249644069 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249644078 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1249644086 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a clever ruse of mine < 1249644100 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't possibly remember what we were talking about, now < 1249644102 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1249644106 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you got to be right < 1249644110 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the best porn of all < 1249644117 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1249644121 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best porn of all is you naked < 1249644128 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249644144 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i'm not *that* much above average hotness < 1249644244 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are to me! < 1249644249 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thats all that matters *.* < 1249644262 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1249644265 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now shoppe! -> < 1249644268 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1249644911 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249645711 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-162-152-39.range86-162.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249645943 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249646297 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-1-34.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249647525 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249647908 0 :nornalbion!n=miyanoko@host86-130-235-100.range86-130.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249648346 0 :jix!n=jix@188-193-95-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249648662 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249649204 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249649419 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249651780 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249652735 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249653239 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.243.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249653414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy, a fucking stupid reddit post saying that apple should have an antitrust suit filed against them < 1249653429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules that apply to MS do not apply to apple because THEY ARE PROTECTIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE A MONOPOLY < 1249653432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiot < 1249653433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1249653443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for the last time hardware DRM isn't illegal! < 1249653450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawd < 1249653570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:03:25 select text without copying, then middle-click somewhere < 1249653572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1249653576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know about this? < 1249653633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:44:07 fizzie do you speak finnish fluently? < 1249653636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gahahahaha < 1249653677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:51:20 Oh, and incidentally, I still don't live in Helsinki; I live in Espoo, which (despite several attempts) has not yet transmogrified into one big city with Helsinki. I think I pointed this out once already. < 1249653677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they want you to think < 1249653716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:18 hey youre the one who had a 13 year old girlfriend when you were 19 < 1249653716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:22 or whatever < 1249653716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:27 when i was *18* < 1249653716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:32 whatever < 1249653717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:33 same thing < 1249653717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from this we can conclude that 1=2 < 1249653737 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can conclude from it that true is false, and therefore everything is true. < 1249653744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and false < 1249653749 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1249653755 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1249653755 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1249653755 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1249653771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:55:36 13-yo's are physically adults, they're just stupider < 1249653771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna be like this as an adult? < 1249653772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well shit. < 1249653790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:57:45 i know very little about people's cocks after about 12, because i haven't seen one in years < 1249653790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid to ask how much you know about people's cocks before 12 < 1249653793 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was talking about girls < 1249653817 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: a lot, because one of the subjects at school involved getting in the shower with guys. < 1249653827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well that doesn't count < 1249653830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just their fake penises < 1249653833 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1249653862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:01:41 Sauna sex is a good way to get a stroke < 1249653863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHAT WAS STROKE? (A: Genitals.) < 1249653867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*THEN. < 1249653868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not but. < 1249653870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then. < 1249653923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also okloput i have this awesome mental image of saunas where it's physically impossible to see anything more than, say, 5cm in front of you < 1249653926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me it's true < 1249653936 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are such saunas < 1249653952 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of steam < 1249653955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1249653965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could make sex rather hard, unless you have a really tiny penis < 1249653967 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most saunas, it's just dark < 1249653976 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err why? < 1249653981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not hard < 1249653984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just risky < 1249654000 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, probably, in a sauna < 1249654015 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the seats are a few meters from the floor < 1249654019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1249654027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1249654027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1249654028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput < 1249654031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero gravity sauna < 1249654035 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249654039 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1249654045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love ideagasms < 1249654059 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the whole savusauna thing, without a chimney. < 1249654061 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauna#Smoke_sauna < 1249654068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that, in zero gravity < 1249654068 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex in a zero-gravity sauna while having tea < 1249654074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249654077 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in those, you can see 5cm < 1249654080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sauna/smoke sauna/ < 1249654084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249654085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's lame < 1249654086 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there is no smoke in a smoke sauna < 1249654087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utterly lame < 1249654090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1249654090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1249654102 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you'd die otherwise < 1249654115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones I've been to tend to be pretty black, though, and just generally dark too. < 1249654120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex in a fatal zero-gravity smoke sauna while having tea and coffee at the same time < 1249654123 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, they are very dark < 1249654148 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that sounds pretty awesome, we should totally implement it < 1249654163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right except i'm not too sure about the whole fatal part < 1249654171 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...also l�yly would work great as a loanword < 1249654185 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would probably beat kiuas in unpronounceability < 1249654195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeooass < 1249654274 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well right the fatal part may need some honing < 1249654290 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want like a perfect final experience thing < 1249654317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking that dying of being in the same room as smoke is unpleasant < 1249654344 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well stop thinking then < 1249654348 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or soemthing < 1249654352 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something < 1249654468 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't inhale. < 1249654753 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249654783 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249655147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i think oxygen like < 1249655148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks < 1249655377 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think, I just ask the computer to think for me: < 1249655379 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oxygen going "oh no", then? brilliant! who's driving it? maybe syntax-e identity in psyntax? < 1249655399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oxygen going 'oh no'" sounds like trouble ahead. < 1249655485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249655510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RecursionRecursionRecursionRecursionButtcursion < 1249655919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://man.cat-v.org/plan_b/1/ego < 1249655970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, this "in-browser implementation of Python" chokes on class A(object): pass. < 1249657327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/PwccqNBl5qtxvki3vTc7oo9no1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1249740096&Signature=iPL8Sjiw8BVkaPnSLT5dhf3vbU8%3D ;; Well, this is simple! < 1249657388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quick! In five seconds, how do you upgrade from Vista Business 32-bit to Windows 7 Professional 64-bit?" < 1249657860 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1249657987 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249658468 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249659314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : its from "entire nation" < 1249659329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here i assumed it was a euphemism for damnation < 1249659383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be more amusing if it were a euphemism for euphemism. < 1249659456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will take your word for that. < 1249659568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : from this we can conclude that 1=2 < 1249659581 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from that we can deduce that bertrand russell is the pope. < 1249659601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he did it himself, you know.) < 1249659610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mope the pope tote < 1249659622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from that we can deduce that the Pope is not really Catholic. < 1249659645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :systematic! < 1249659663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway that's clearly a bit off < 1249659667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it three/ < 1249659670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :father son holy ghost < 1249659676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd want to be proving 1=3 < 1249659678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather infinity=3 < 1249659699 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't think the trinity entered the proof < 1249659850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: n=succ(n), more like. < 1249659850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1249659865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an infinite recursion of oral? < 1249659875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be. < 1249659887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird. < 1249660126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Quick! In five seconds, how do you upgrade from Vista Business 32-bit to Windows 7 Professional 64-bit?" <-- my first guess would be, "not in five seconds." < 1249660133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249660285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF Starbucks? < 1249660309 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did they do now? < 1249660309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've started opening unbranded "stealth cafés" in order to compete with local coffee shops. < 1249660317 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249660326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FUD < 1249660345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, it says starbucks all over, and there's tons of news about it; nobody's going to be "fooled" < 1249660345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ? < 1249660359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the other, most reports from people who have actually been there suggest it isn't really a starbucks < 1249660368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1249660369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, business-wise it is, but coffee-wise it's better < 1249660374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i admit < 1249660377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"inspired by starbucks" < 1249660382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is some weird-ass wording < 1249660391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if it still has the shit coffee, not worth going. < 1249660430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, NSFW: http://imgur.com/VJzZW.jpg < 1249660496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More naked obama + unicorn than you could shake a horn at: http://wildammo.com/2009/07/27/unusual-paintings-of-obama-naked-with-unicorns/ < 1249660537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that Dr. House on the right? < 1249660561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1249660568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Stalin on the left. < 1249660609 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where are the _usual_ paintings of obama naked with unicorns? < 1249660623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T WANT TO KNOW < 1249660664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain basically shut off with http://wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/obama-painting10.jpg < 1249660715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1249660718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the painter appears to be a right-winger < 1249660837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wing-nut? < 1249660882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obama's testicles are as of yet not painted. < 1249660887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i hope, at least.) < 1249661470 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-22.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1249662670 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Is that an infinite recursion of oral? <<< what? < 1249662681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n = suck(n) < 1249662709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix suck < 1249662811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: you there? < 1249662845 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oral, you mean like oral < 1249662856 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed that was "or all", written in a condensed form < 1249662857 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1249662871 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning some well-known function < 1249662876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1249662886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: well or all is just fold or, obviously < 1249662893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "or all" is a funny way of saying "any" < 1249662924 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, kinda like your mother is < 1249662942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mother is indeed a funny way of saying any < 1249662963 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kar8nga: party! < 1249662973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: we thus must consider the dual abbreviation of "and all" < 1249662990 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessir < 1249662993 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andal < 1249663004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R andal l Munroe < 1249663008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats okloput for ruining the joke -----###
< 1249663015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andal is also known as all, okloput :P < 1249663057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t all or < 1249663069 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry, i wasn't thinking. < 1249663086 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all or :: [[Bool]] -> Bool < 1249663100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: you're a bit slow today < 1249663107 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like "allor" < 1249663183 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell all or [[True,False],[False,True]] < 1249663184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1249663184 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1249663195 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, anyand is even nicer < 1249663213 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell any and [[True,False],[False,True]] < 1249663214 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1249663274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow the LoseThos guy is even turning on the Loper OS guy, who praised it < 1249663278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I hope your code reads better than your prose:-) < 1249663279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ripped-off my name, asshole. LoseThos. http://www.losethos.com" < 1249663288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how he ripped off his name < 1249663291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has OS in it? < 1249663294 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, LoseThos. < 1249663296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1249663306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You just sound a little stilted. Nice vocabulary, but tone-down the arrogance. < 1249663306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can read fancy words. God makes riddles when he talks to me. < 1249663307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[another god speak thing] < 1249663307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your writing sounds like a rant of a person more crazy than I am." < 1249663326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The juxtaposition of "END displacing large servants" and "Your writing sounds like a rant of a person more crazy than I am." is hilarious. < 1249663348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: some people's motivations seem just destined to remain riddles < 1249663368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just insane < 1249663370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculously insane < 1249663378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got worse though, he was less crazy beforehand, slightly < 1249663379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still love his theory that "finished programs don't need memory protection, because they don't malfunction". < 1249663396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if he keeps at this, uh < 1249663397 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem like that's what his theory is < 1249663404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think he needs serious psychiatric help < 1249663409 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: It's one of many theories he has. < 1249663419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there is no such thing as "just insane". insane just means anyone falling outside the very narrow region known as "normal", afaiac < 1249663431 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: seems like he's more saying no protection is fun for certain types of hacking < 1249663444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: really, don't try and justify the guy, it might seem ok on the surface < 1249663448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/normal/sane/ < 1249663448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you really read about it you'll go insane < 1249663449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Finished programs don't need memory protection, because they don't malfunction." < 1249663457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: colloquial language in your face < 1249663463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's true actually < 1249663467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's just that there's no finished program < 1249663469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe hello world < 1249663479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Right. < 1249663492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe junk that's been formally verified. < 1249663507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... But you really don't design your OS assuming that, now do you? < 1249663507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: errors in proof, errors in proof system < 1249663509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1249663511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errors in what you're proving < 1249663512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1249663520 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1249663575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises that for C strings, regexp ^ can be represented as [^\0]
< 1249663577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1249663579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ as \0, ofc < 1249663633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: er, you mean . ? < 1249663645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1249663646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1249663651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ can be represented as [^\0](backtrack) < 1249663651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1249663665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1249663668 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see that < 1249663670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't advance [^\0]) < 1249663678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1249663679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hm < 1249663683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no \0 at the start < 1249663690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh yes that's the point < 1249663691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ = [\0] though i guess < 1249663697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1249663700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're right < 1249663704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ does have to be special cased < 1249663708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's not enforcing not-end < 1249663711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's enforcing start < 1249663758 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a glio, put it in your pocket < 1249663765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a reverse negative lookahead, i forget the syntax < 1249663820 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(?<=[^\0]) < 1249663830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not \0, . < 1249663845 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249663849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1249663855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you're right < 1249663878 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant is always right < 1249663895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1249664127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/575607.txt?key=jkkr84jcur9wbhf8clemq ;; I think this is an optimal compilation of the regexp (save tricks like reading multiple bytes at a time etc) < 1249664138 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249664154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm that has a redundant break < 1249664162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1249664162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : break; < 1249664162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : default: < 1249664167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the break can be omitted there < 1249664213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though probably the nfa stuff beats it < 1249664285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1249664288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1249664317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a regex to C compiler? < 1249664331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm just toying with writing one for the hell of it < 1249664338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only actually regular regexs < 1249664351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (a) simplicity, (b) performance < 1249664361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Waiter, you got an exponential search in my matcher.) < 1249664375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Perl compiles regexes behind the scenes, when they're encountered < 1249664381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they have a /o option to only compile once < 1249664385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: its algorithm is terrible, though < 1249664387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html < 1249664389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponential < 1249664394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also note that the first graph is in second < 1249664395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1249664398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second is in microseconds < 1249664441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rewrites his compilation as a state machine
< 1249664448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's well-known that there are certain classes of regexen that Perl handles badly, although they tend to be not too hard to avoid < 1249664456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better algorithm seems like a good idea < 1249664468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the existing algorithm should be available as an option, for golfing < 1249664476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the paper covers this < 1249664482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just check if there's a backreference in the regexp < 1249664487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use the exponential algorithm then < 1249664500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason to make something an option that can be trivially automatic < 1249664517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1249664544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of code like 'aaaa' =~ /a?a?a?a?(?{print "Hello, world!\n"})aaaa/ < 1249664554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but clearly, it would detect the coderef there and fall back < 1249664562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that stuff can be done with an NFA, prolly < 1249664570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the actual expression is regular < 1249664581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's semantically incorrect to optimize that < 1249664588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"optimise"? < 1249664590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't print hello world 16 times, you're violating perl's spec < 1249664591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an optimisation < 1249664593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a compilation < 1249664603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it doesn't... constant fold or whatever < 1249664603 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to be exponential in expressions like that one < 1249664606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1249664614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't expect perl would actually adopt it < 1249664621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it exposes the implementation so much like in that case < 1249664633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, note that speed of compilation is often more important than speed of execution < 1249664640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the compilation is fast < 1249664641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because regexes are compiled every time they're encountered < 1249664697 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why is that aaaa thing exponential? < 1249664712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz perl is stupid < 1249664712 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err hmm ?, right < 1249664715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i would assume that applies only to regexes that contain interpolated variables or such < 1249664738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you'd think so, but Perl's really stupid at that, you have to write /o to say "I'm not using an interpolated variable" < 1249664746 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes a)(not a) is different from (not a)(yes a), so there are 2^(amount of a's) possibilities < 1249664748 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, at least; in practice they probably use the as-if rule < 1249664765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: yes, that's it < 1249664783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IIRC the code-block could even be able to tell which sort of match it was, in a more complicated regex < 1249664785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh? i thought /o was for when you _are_ using an interpolated variable but don't want the regex to change after the first use < 1249664792 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1249664801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often does that happen, though? < 1249664820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if the variable is not actually changed, that could be common < 1249664822 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC perl caches regexes that don't have interpolated variables by default < 1249664837 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they do have interpolated variables you have to use /o manually < 1249664878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/575625.txt?key=qetirlttqkzlvzaqnllg < 1249664885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the regexp as an FSM < 1249664893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string is touched by his noodly appendage < 1249664899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rewrites it with gotos
< 1249664907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(↑ This is considered a socially unacceptable thing to say.) < 1249665041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/575632.txt?key=maxdtnu8lhtptvmdwqwkfq < 1249665042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila. < 1249665045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is surely optimal. < 1249665050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, drop the case 4: line < 1249665063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, this doesn't gather the groups < 1249665064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1249665096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tests it :P
< 1249665149 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249665268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L2: < 1249665269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : movl 8(%ebp), %eax < 1249665269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : movzbl (%eax), %eax < 1249665269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : movsbl %al,%eax < 1249665269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cmpl $97, %eax < 1249665270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : je L4 < 1249665275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some pretty darn optimal code < 1249665304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it gets even better with -O3 < 1249665312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L3: < 1249665312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : movzbl (%eax), %edx < 1249665312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cmpb $97, %dl < 1249665313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : je L14 < 1249665320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's an interesting paper, it's mirroring what happened in parser development < 1249665326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you know of a good asm→C decompiler? < 1249665331 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no < 1249665331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna see what the heck it compiles my state machine to < 1249665337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1249665343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it is, it's pretty amazing < 1249665366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/575640.txt?key=fdsiy0eymjwr3etpfdhx7g < 1249665369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the full code < 1249665417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION constructs a multi-MB string to test it with
< 1249665469 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249665740 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://www.pastie.org/private/zsluf1vbdaqlnpfzeeftq < 1249665757 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decompilation of that asm, modulo any errors I made < 1249665776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahaha, it rolled up the bbb check! < 1249665778 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be optimized in one place < 1249665782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just perversely great < 1249665793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it did what it did for alignment reasons < 1249665806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares? it did it < 1249665815 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, that 'ret = 1' in l6 (movl $1, %eax) < 1249665830 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pointless if you jump to l8 immediately afterward < 1249665863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, even the plain state machine would be fast enough < 1249665866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with -O0 < 1249665869 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually missed that jump there: http://www.pastie.org/private/uqvjwjnkm1w0njxdnoqyfw < 1249665886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is odd indeed < 1249665934 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, it's doing it there to have some space between the test and the jump < 1249665948 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which might make the pipeline happier or something < 1249665987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't specify -march < 1249665988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to < 1249666030 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Your C seems to have a floating 'case 4:' < 1249666038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read the next lines kthx < 1249666052 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K < 1249666071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/575666.txt?key=orndvz7i6izopps9u6gy6q < 1249666071 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually did, I just completely ignored them thereafter < 1249666074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with march=core2 < 1249666082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just rearranges a bit and aligns < 1249666115 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1249666129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's the expected behavior of -O0 -march. < 1249666167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no, -O3 < 1249666187 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Use cfunge's compilation flags and see what happens < 1249666204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: give me them and I'll use them; I think actually thinking about them to copy them in would kill m < 1249666204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1249666206 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A good reference for when you want excessive optimization) < 1249666213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what's the simplest way to get time() except w/ msec < 1249666219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be no easy function < 1249666224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(measuring how long it takes to match 100mb str) < 1249666229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I could've sworn that GCC compiled it into a jump table. < 1249666231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1249666236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It did. < 1249666238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. < 1249666241 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1249666245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'm just blathering. < 1249666249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sort of < 1249666251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has comparisons < 1249666254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the best way to do it < 1249666393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, he doesn't appear to use them any more, just a bunch of -W < 1249666406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, whatever < 1249666415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Haha, unlikely. < 1249666430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're in the development subbranchtree or something. < 1249666440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1249666494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah. < 1249666511 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLVM might give something different if you care enough < 1249666514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I conclude that time() sux because it doesn't have a brother that does milliseconds unpainfully. < 1249666532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm kind of unmotivated to compile clang < 1249666545 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever < 1249666557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clang seems to compile pretty easily < 1249666560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the makefile worked for me < 1249666581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you have to do it in-tree with llvm < 1249666584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an svn llvm < 1249666589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1249666591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1249666598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it didn't work for me, so I don't care < 1249666822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blargl. < 1249666908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We conclude that it is certainly fine to use a 160-bit hash function like SHA1 or RIPEMD-160 with compare-by-hash. The chances of an accidental collision is about 2^-160. This is unimaginably small. You are roughly 2^90 times more likely to win a U.S. state lottery and be struck by lightning simultaneously than you are to encounter this type of error in your file system." < 1249666986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, however, from our own acooke: < 1249666988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrew cooke on April 14, 2008 5:50 PM < 1249666988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2^-160 is a bit misleading. as the first paper points out (search for "birthday") you're going to start getting collisions when you have around 2^80 blocks. that's still a lot of blocks, but *significantly* less than the 2^160 you might infer from what you wrote.) < 1249666995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Solution: Use a bigger hash.) < 1249667273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, following careful consideration < 1249667275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that my program has a bug. < 1249667351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems not. < 1249667394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pikhq: Deewiant: ais523:) It appears that my program can match a 1gb string in less than a second. < 1249667409 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not bad < 1249667412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, against which regex < 1249667421 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it can deduce a non-match due to the first char? ;-) < 1249667435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, the string is carefully constructed to match. < 1249667442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^a*(bbb)*$, hand-compiled. Admittedly, not the most complex thing, HOWEVER < 1249667451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't really any more complex operation in regular expressions < 1249667459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's no penalty for a long regex in my system < 1249667462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternation? < 1249667465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's about as fast as any < 1249667470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, not more expensive < 1249667475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have that, essentially < 1249667479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my handling of (bbb) < 1249667479 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine (a|aaaaa)(aaaaaaa*)(aaa)? < 1249667499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://pastie.org/575632.txt?key=maxdtnu8lhtptvmdwqwkfq (ignore the case 4:) line < 1249667508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you can see from how it handles (bbb), we already do such skipping. < 1249667523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just s/return 0/goto sN/ < 1249667635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, dammit, if I have this code right, a JIGGABYTE. < 1249667644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The memory usage matches up, so I don't think I'm overflowing any counters or anything. < 1249667656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I assert it, so it definitely gets to a return 1. < 1249667664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my other tests work, and it doesn't look buggy. < 1249667737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd test a bigger string but I don't have the ram. < 1249667743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey fizzie! Get that cluster up here :P < 1249667810 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249667813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: incidentally, I think b?(bbb)* is more complex than a*(bbb)* < 1249667826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in the second there, there isn't any ambiguity about how to match any given string, in the first, there is < 1249667838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Gimme a test proggy, I have about 7 GB available < 1249667862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'll cook something up. < 1249667885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I < 1249667903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'m afraid that my time counting code didn't work, so you'll just have to clockball how long it takes after printing "Go!". < 1249667903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1249667906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should only be a second or two. < 1249667931 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gettimeofday()? < 1249667949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: write me the code to measure how long it took in ms and I'll be happy to pop it in :P < 1249667984 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966499 < 1249668005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regex7gb.c:53: warning: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type < 1249668013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fuck you! :P < 1249668016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: kay < 1249668018 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well s/int64/long/ < 1249668037 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the Ubuntu forums, whaddya expect :-P < 1249668044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't comment < 1249668093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, even dividing by ten it's too big :P < 1249668108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fff < 1249668111 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's microseconds < 1249668114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a new approach < 1249668120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm talking about my string-builder < 1249668126 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1249668130 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249668136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1249668139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was complaining about another part of code < 1249668140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1249668150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : char *s = malloc(7516192768), *t = s; in particular < 1249668163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm there's not actually a way to do that is there < 1249668175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think malloc takes a long long < 1249668176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UL < 1249668180 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes a size_t < 1249668185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which will be big enough on my machine < 1249668198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I forgot -m64 < 1249668201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps forehead
< 1249668216 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly 32-bit people :-) < 1249668230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snow Leopard :-P < 1249668239 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly 32-bit people :-) < 1249668260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snow Leopard will be 64-bit. >:( < 1249668266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://pastie.org/575711.txt?key=tymvrwsyvuypohm5h5mra; I didn't add the timer cause I'm lazy < 1249668271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll only take a few secs after go < 1249668287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I'm going to bother to get an even semiaccurate measurement < 1249668339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These kinds of discussions often use Turing machines, but these days not many people are comfortable with Turing machines, so I'm going to use Scheme. [؟]" < 1249668406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9250853 microseconds < 1249668439 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It pushed some things into swap though, let's try again < 1249668463 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, more like 4.2 seconds on average < 1249668469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Irrelevant < 1249668472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of that is building the string < 1249668477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to count after "Go!" < 1249668487 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I added the timer code < 1249668494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :P < 1249668495 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And init after go. < 1249668499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's very good if you ask me. < 1249668520 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Built with -O3 -march=native on GCC 4.4.1 < 1249668521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that anyone's going to be matching 7gb strings, but... it's nice to be able to. < 1249668536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Pfft, you didn't even unroll loops! :-P < 1249668545 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What loops? :-P < 1249668554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The string-building ones, duh! < 1249668561 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1249668574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be an -O4 that enables every safe optimisation, and -O5 that enables every optimisation. < 1249668601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean -O666 < 1249668603 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some optimizations counter each other's work, I think < 1249668616 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some are of course just parameters you can tune < 1249668650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try every permutation and pick the best < 1249668658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick the best by timing it by fuzz testing it < 1249668672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if it takes input) < 1249668696 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what you actually want is -Ojustloopforever < 1249668713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do them all in parallel of course < 1249668722 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249668722 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249668722 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249668734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that. < 1249668734 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1249668734 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249668734 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1249668737 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what you actually want is -Ojustloopforeveronallavailablecores < 1249668819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: For some definition of "forever"? < 1249668869 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably around 100 optimization options < 1249668879 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have 93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000 permutations < 1249668898 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, that definition of "forever" < 1249668941 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that I guess we're not talking about the order in which they're applied < 1249668960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have it update the executable to the fastest as it goes. < 1249668961 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But rather, whether each one is applied or not < 1249668970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249668972 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It still has to try every one < 1249668987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1267650600228229401496703205376 < 1249668998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes, but you can use it as you go < 1249669011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, let's assume we have 128 cores; a Nehalem-EX system will be able to do that and we are after all in the future < 1249669020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each of these can run two threads < 1249669038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ 4951760157141521099596496896 < 1249669050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us assume that our program takes 1ms to execute < 1249669087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will only take 1.56915162 x 10^14 millenia < 1249669091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fully complet < 1249669091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1249669105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't think of a bigger unit than millenia. < 1249669131 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aeon < 1249669143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill defined < 1249669155 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249669155 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then let aeon := 1 billion years < 1249669172 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a billion here < 1249669176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^9? < 1249669179 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^9 of course < 1249669184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1249669187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 156915162000000000 years isn't bad < 1249669188 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck uses anything else apart from dead people < 1249669197 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :156911811 aeons then < 1249669206 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm dead according to your definition < 1249669214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're just non-english < 1249669221 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also use it in English < 1249669222 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not and think a billion is 10^12 you sure should be! < 1249669229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: don't < 1249669232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses it that way in english < 1249669234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even the british < 1249669238 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1249669250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, don't, it's dangerous < 1249669259 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kalpa < 1249669276 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use it in dangerous contexts < 1249669283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typically I just use milliard and people stare blankly < 1249669323 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes because that is dead people talk < 1249669338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: Jolly good old bean. < 1249669342 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are grandpa moses' economist talking about grain exports in the bronze age < 1249669348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249669354 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Canadians have it well since French uses the long scale < 1249669357 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10^12 is the superior definition < 1249669359 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: Not quite that dead < 1249669362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: it is < 1249669366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not what is used < 1249669370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 10^12 comes up less < 1249669376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas 10^9 comes up more < 1249669376 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for less = hardly ever < 1249669377 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't give a shit, naturally < 1249669377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in, you know < 1249669379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real people units < 1249669383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah billion is a bad name < 1249669390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not a billion like a million is. < 1249669391 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah who cares about real people < 1249669392 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who cares whether it comes up more < 1249669399 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zipf < 1249669404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: people who don't want to say "three thousand million" < 1249669406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"10^9 is more common than 10^12 so let's call it billion instead of milliard" < 1249669419 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use milliard, much easier < 1249669423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :milliard + scratchy communication line = million < 1249669434 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it sounds even more french than million < 1249669440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's shortened to "yard" < 1249669444 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1249669445 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yard < 1249669462 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: billion + scratchy communication line = million < 1249669472 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more so than milliard, IMO :-P < 1249669475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: if you can't pronounce things properly < 1249669497 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you need to have is a flu and they sound the same < 1249669507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Terry Pratchett says he's going to kill himself. < 1249669507 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In financial markets, yard (derived from milliard) is still often used instead of "billion" to avoid ambiguity between "million" and "billion". -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milliard < 1249669539 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the financial markets < 1249669550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off my mill yard < 1249669575 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway who gives a shit what the idiots still using a 10-base number system use for shorthands < 1249669578 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1249669585 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just use SI prefix + years < 1249669593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: what's your favourite base < 1249669607 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is fine < 1249669614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: too verbose < 1249669618 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really use numbers much < 1249669621 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 156 petayears < 1249669637 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closer to 157 < 1249669637 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there are well-known shorthands for writing base-2 < 1249669644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what < 1249669646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using base 4? < 1249669646 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex < 1249669652 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1249669652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not base 2 < 1249669654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's base 16 < 1249669659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's /also/ a shorthand for base 2 < 1249669660 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that relevant < 1249669671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: because then you like base 16, not base 2! < 1249669678 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who gives a shit < 1249669683 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers are pretty useless anyway < 1249669688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway base 3 is better < 1249669690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have a middle < 1249669715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather base 9 :P < 1249669719 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trinary has it's funny bones, yes. < 1249669826 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.105.86.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249669843 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate computers and their disconnection < 1249669846 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Nonary system of notation is used by the fictional civilization, The Culture, found in Iain M. Banks' books.[citation needed] < 1249669848 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1249669850 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fictional support < 1249669852 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonary 4eva < 1249669905 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 2672- < 1249669907 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1249669909 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy 2672-08-07, anyway < 1249670202 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-2-207.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249670459 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there was a vm os < 1249670467 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where all its resources are dedicated to running multiple vms at once < 1249670485 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :current ones sorta don't cut it because your vm is noticeably slower etc than your host < 1249670649 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why people write in pseudocode that's so much like real code
< 1249670699 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: A VM OS, you say? < 1249670703 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249670709 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd make trying OSes out so much nicer < 1249670714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like an IBM mainframe. < 1249670716 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could say "dedicate all resources to this OS" < 1249670718 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1249670721 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no partitioning < 1249670733 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you'd have to insanely optimise the hardware layers < 1249670738 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, make them almost direct drivers < 1249670741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainframe. < 1249670745 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with everything else being optional < 1249670747 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: on consumer hardware. < 1249670754 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perfectly doable, just hard < 1249670757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: Fair enough. < 1249670760 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier than writing a full OS, though :P < 1249670762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfectly doable, just hard. < 1249670772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, that would amount to a good hypervisor. < 1249670798 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1249670811 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a super-simple png loader/writer lib for c < 1249670821 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically http://pngwriter.sourceforge.net/ for c < 1249670821 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249670870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1249671187 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1249671192 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mh < 1249671628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft just patented XML document formats... < 1249671634 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1249671635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they now seem to have a patent on XHTML and ODF, among other things < 1249671644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully, there's no way that particular patent will stand < 1249671651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ODF. Their patent specifies "in a single XML file". < 1249671659 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ODF uses multiple. < 1249671665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ODF uses single, too < 1249671668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they're both valid < 1249671720 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only that part is patented, then < 1249671735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249671765 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This summary is probably not complete or fully accurate, but it is an impressive collection of distributed computations, produced within or on top of the Arpanet. Much of this work, however, was done in the early 70s; one participant recently commented, “It's hard for me to believe that this all happened seven years ago.” Since that time, we have not witnessed the anticipated blossoming of many distributed applications using the long-haul capabilities of < 1249671892 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the Arpanet. < 1249672379 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYluZRwrw9w < 1249672446 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1249672486 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perjan, no < 1249672491 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan* < 1249672502 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not a euphemism for damnation < 1249672517 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what in the entire nation" ~ "what in the world" < 1249672551 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if someone writes a rap in lojban I'll paypal them $0 < 1249672563 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much of an incentive! < 1249672572 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra incentive: you'll be fucking awesome < 1249672581 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1249672585 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has to rhyme < 1249672587 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :youll be a guy who wrote a rap in lojban < 1249672592 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equivalent < 1249672626 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like opposite < 1249672675 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur you just hate lojban because you suck < 1249672693 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, im just aware of how much of a nerd you have to be to rap in lojban. :P < 1249672695 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow < 1249672701 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lojban rap would rule. < 1249672734 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1249672742 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: nerd increases awesomeness < 1249672758 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong kind of nerdery < 1249672787 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yeah well you're a fag < 1249672792 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1249672846 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerdation < 1249672905 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of lojban, http://jbotcan.org/xamselsku/index.cgi?id=17 < 1249672990 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://jbotcan.org/xamselsku/index.cgi?id=61 < 1249672994 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this qdb is hilarious < 1249673648 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1249673733 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-155-77-85.range86-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1249673759 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249673779 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/115736/Sin-bins-for-worst-families < 1249673780 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1249673891 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1249673898 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1984 ftw < 1249674018 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats crazy, dude < 1249674985 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"orwlly?" < 1249675410 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1249675664 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehehe balls < 1249676478 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.86.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249676744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1249676749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple png reader/writer lib in c < 1249676750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point me! < 1249676757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249676758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: libpng < 1249676774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean http://pngwriter.sourceforge.net/ simple, not libpng "simple" < 1249676782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pngwriter's in c++ though < 1249676828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpng has a simple API as well as the full one, IIRC < 1249676833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although IME the full one's been more usefu < 1249676835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*useful < 1249676851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-gb&ei=FIB8SrGqOMOfjAf6laGIBw&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=libpng+simple+api&spell=1 < 1249676852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third link < 1249676853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latent content: LIBPNG: Worst API, Ever < 1249676853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1249676855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, simple as in "simple implementation, low level API" or simple as in "easy to use high level API" < 1249676866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no contradiction. < 1249676879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well not in theory indeed :P < 1249676883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already gave a relevant pointer. http://pngwriter.sourceforge.net/quickstart-en.php should remove all doubts as to which < 1249676890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practise it seems to be < 1249676924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, the functions filename→vector and vector*filename→void must be soo complex < 1249676946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vector? png is bitmapped... what are you talking about < 1249676967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you said Swedish mathematics education was piss-poor, < 1249676973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but did they actually give you any classes at all? < 1249676988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh *that* type of vector. < 1249677122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is a hot day here, excuse me for not being up to speed. 25 C at 72% humidity in the evening... Was over 30 C during the day < 1249677139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I so hate early August... < 1249677147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and late July) < 1249677150 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1249677156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the Swedes have resorted to complaining that it's over twenty degrees to justify their intelligence. < 1249677169 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249677176 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... That's hot? < 1249677179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah. Math education is poor too. Vectors were only introduced in late high school < 1249677179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, my brain hasn't yet melted from hot temperatures. < 1249677182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, for Sweden yes < 1249677185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: What?! < 1249677187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vectors, late high school? < 1249677188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's "finally, it fucking *cooled down*" temperature. < 1249677190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, and very high humidity < 1249677191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN THE US IS BETTER THAN THAT < 1249677195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, at least. < 1249677199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, see. That is what I told you < 1249677200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... No, no. < 1249677205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh. < 1249677205 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vectors are covered in college. < 1249677208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's m— < 1249677210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1249677215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a *tiny* bit in high school. < 1249677225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 90%? < 1249677227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, quite close to here < 1249677234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do USians really not know calculus before they enter university? < 1249677237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, even the good ones? < 1249677243 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Only the good ones. < 1249677245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, 72% atm says the thingy that measures it. Was close to 80% yesterday at least < 1249677253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't check in the middle of the day < 1249677268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: US public education is *staggeringly* bad. < 1249677288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for Ivy League, huh. < 1249677294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all Swedish education is like the US public education < 1249677299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably know more mathematics than the average US high school graduate. < 1249677300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ivy Ihopeyouknowcalculusleague. < 1249677312 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have vectors in high school as well < 1249677313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I attach that to league and not ivy? < 1249677315 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The US at least makes up for it by having decent to good post-secondary education. < 1249677315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE WILL NEVER KNOW < 1249677319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since private education only recently started to grow from some tiny fraction of a percent < 1249677326 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Vectors are covered in college. <<< xD < 1249677364 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput: In precalc (an optional course for HS students). < 1249677368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there wasn't a *lot* about vectors in high school in fact. < 1249677371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the basics < 1249677375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1249677388 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it matters, no one learns anything in high school anyway they can't learn in about 5 hours of lectures in uni. < 1249677406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned plenty *in* high school. < 1249677409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloput, that is probably true < 1249677412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... Not *from* high school. < 1249677419 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249677429 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: been there < 1249677436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can safely say that from middle school onwards, the school education in this country teaches you precisely and exactly zip. < 1249677438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, private education? Or a joke about other stuff? < 1249677443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...until university, at least < 1249677455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: He's talking about pornography, duh. < 1249677459 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm autodidactic. < 1249677462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: He's not, actually.) < 1249677465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that is what I meant with "other stuff" < 1249677467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1249677472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Which is an improvement on the US. You stop learning in about elementary. < 1249677481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, he's actually talking about his ability to use a pretentious word to mean "I read Wikipedia" < 1249677491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Autodidactic. I read Wikipedia. The choice is clear. < 1249677496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles autodidactic
< 1249677504 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I had the same tendency to self-teach things before Wikipedia existed. < 1249677512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"self-education" heh < 1249677513 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read a lot. < 1249677513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1249677525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with me for programming at least. And some of the math. < 1249677527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia used to be more distributed and less accurate /shrug < 1249677568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah :P I meant learning by reading, not wikipedia specifically < 1249677616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do some hivemind applications; e.g. answering questions by collating the web and IRC etc. < 1249677626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then FOOM) < 1249677637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'd better do it before someone adds another fact to Cyc!) < 1249677759 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The average USian reads about as well as a US 4th grade student. < 1249677789 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, they can't even read a novel of moderate length. < 1249677819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 80% of Americans did not read a single book last year. < 1249677843 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well books can be kinda annoying < 1249677868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you know what < 1249677869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck america < 1249677881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's gather up all the cool people in the US — should take a few hours — < 1249677882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: My thoughts exactly. < 1249677884 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey this nick is ugly < 1249677887 0 :okloput!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1249677893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shoot it into orbit < 1249677896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oxygen not required < 1249677899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So, most Americans on Freenode, friends of theirs? < 1249677900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm not orbit < 1249677903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :send it off to pluto < 1249677914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: dunno there are plenty of cool people who abstain from freenode for good reasons < 1249677931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example, freenode's founder and administration are uh, questionable) < 1249677936 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you want to kill all the cool people in usa < 1249677942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add OFTC and find a way to include the non-programmers < 1249677949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's why I said "and friends of theirs". < 1249677955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1249677957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: recursive? < 1249677959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : About 80% of Americans did not read a single book last year. <-- I suspect things are close to as bad in Sweden, That is from personal experience talking to people; I don't have actual numbers handy. < 1249677964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i'm sure that way you'll get a bunch of idiots < 1249677969 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Within reason. < 1249677970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, that's almost certainly untrue < 1249677974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah take the whole closure < 1249677978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweden is ranked among the top places to live etc < 1249677987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving like 5 hermits < 1249678000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Probably you need a function "coolPerson :: Person -> Bool" < 1249678010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: x -> Bool, aka Set x < 1249678016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's not terribly helpful < 1249678045 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Person would have to be a typeclass... < 1249678047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://www.scb.se/statistik/LE/LE0101/1976I02/LE0101_1976I02_BR_06_LE103SA0401.pdf seems to indicate it was 30% for men in 1999 < 1249678056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nornalbion: really? < 1249678057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 76% for women < 1249678059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1249678060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who *read books* < 1249678061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 1999 < 1249678062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1249678069 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't think it's a builtin in Haskell, somehow... < 1249678069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so possibly *worse* than US? < 1249678077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nornalbion: type Foo = ... < 1249678080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo = ... < 1249678088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait misread. Even worse < 1249678090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well we all know men just want sex and women are gentle and emotional < 1249678098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1249678100 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly I shouldn't talk about Haskell because I don't know much :P < 1249678118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeclasses have existing types as instances anyway < 1249678121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that wouldn't help < 1249678122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... That's more than 20% of people reading books. < 1249678137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway nornalbion where did you come from anyway < 1249678139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah yes. you said *who didn't read* < 1249678143 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sine < 1249678147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1249678150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confused me < 1249678161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nornalbion: don't recall seeing you in sine, k < 1249678164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to that pdf traditional dance is one of the most unpopular activities in Sweden < 1249678164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1249678172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional dance is pretty suck < 1249678184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adherents of it include: Stallman. < 1249678200 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I do *not* want to see fat man dancing, thank you. < 1249678201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, for women snowboard/windsurfing is even less popular (why combine those two!? makes no sense to me!) < 1249678213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls < 1249678216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rms + soulja boy < 1249678258 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Old. < 1249678271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly traditional dance :P < 1249678276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Census bureau defines literacy as "being able to read and write to any extent"... < 1249678279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional dance... wait... bad translation. Seems it is called "folk dance" says interwiki links < 1249678285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1249678289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1249678298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah it's suck < 1249678309 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-095-208-142-060.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1249678315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: also combined snowboarding/windsurfing sounds amazing. < 1249678316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including "a small handful of familiar words"... < 1249678320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes i know < 1249678323 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm Miya < 1249678328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nornalbion: o < 1249678330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1249678334 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God. So much suck. < 1249678335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly people and their silly names < 1249678337 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I tried to show you in sine, then noticed you weren't in it. Woops :\/ < 1249678349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blame dylan :P < 1249678358 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did he do to you? :O < 1249678372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno i think i asked about something trivial and he got all pissy at me < 1249678393 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay < 1249678446 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Only 13% of the US population is able to compare viewpoints in two editorials; interpret a table about blood pressure, age, and physical activities; or compare and compute the cost per ounce of common food items. < 1249678451 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D': < 1249678465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm a question ehird... not sure if you know about this, but... When a laptop is suspended the fans turn off. Could that have any bad effects if the fans were working at full speed just before suspending? < 1249678469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory I mean < 1249678475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reduced cooling or something < 1249678476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1249678487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attempts to rewrite the rest of Baby Got Back, but finds that "when a coder walks in with an itty bitty instruction set" doesn't fit
< 1249678488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm guess no need for cooling once cpu turns off < 1249678506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't, although it isn't cooling, the CPU won't get any hotter because it isn't running < 1249678507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess I could use "lang" < 1249678521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Listen to Jonathan Coulton singing it for inspiration. < 1249678523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, true. But it won't cool down as fast < 1249678530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory < 1249678535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(depending on workload) < 1249678555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to suddenly reduced workload I mean with fans still running for a few seconds < 1249678562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i don't think you understand how cooling works < 1249678575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not producing heat, so it'll just dissipate into the air < 1249678624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm an issue with Baby Got Back is that it's rather biased towards the object being large < 1249678631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas we stereotypically go the opposite way < 1249678647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true. But question is how fast it will cool down. Considering how hot the air becomes where it exits... I'm not positive but it feels like it could melt stuff standing too close, so putting the laptop in a backpack directly after... hrrm < 1249678681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeeeeeeeeeeeno. < 1249678742 0 :nornalbion!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1249678750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if CPU is around 60 C, then the air exiting would be a bit lower. Not sure how much but let me get a thermometer and put full load on both cores.. brb < 1249678761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster. It is not going to melt your backpack. < 1249678773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your CPU will also not die after suspension because that's not how cooling works. < 1249678788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: just buy a laptop pad if you're worried anyway < 1249678790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well that is true. I realised that after I asked < 1249678795 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it won't /warm up/ after shutting down, though < 1249678798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I* need more cooling atm < 1249678799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1249678809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so if it would have melted after turning it off, it would have melted beforehand < 1249678819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, don't be too sure. My old first model ibook sometimes failed to shut down the cpu when you put it to sleep < 1249678827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean using a non-netbook laptop without a cooling pad is asking for trouble < 1249678832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it crashed right after turning off fan and right before turning off cpu < 1249678842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, that was mac os 9 < 1249678846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overheating of both your components and uh, making you infertile < 1249678847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather different < 1249678858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I use it on a table anyway < 1249678864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1249678866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll still overheat < 1249678873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most companies strongly recommend you use a laptop pad < 1249678894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, didn't see anything about that in the manual from lenovo though < 1249678912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be there < 1249678914 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course they do, so that they can sell you one < 1249678920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the safety stuff, say < 1249678923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, it seems it is quite easy to replace many parts of it. With warranty left I mean. Unlike those macs I have seen ;P < 1249678925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: uhh, no < 1249678931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adoption is a simpler alternative to procuring a laptop pad < 1249678936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most laptop companies don't sell laptop pads < 1249678942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that doesn't solve it turning off because it overheated < 1249678943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even easily replace harddisk by just following three easy steps in the manual :P < 1249678954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i'm sure it does! < 1249678961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1249678961 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they have some kind of deal with a company who does, same difference < 1249678967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not IME, no. < 1249678972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's funny, because with a mbp you just screw open the case, take it out and put a new one in < 1249678987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, you only need one screw here. < 1249679007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's good; I can replace the laptop every time I sit it down easily. < 1249679012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/laptop/HD/ < 1249679014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1249679015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wanted to do that. < 1249679021 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1249679078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does macbook pros have PC-card? < 1249679086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the expresscard thing? < 1249679087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly certain plain macbooks doesn't < 1249679090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 17" one does. < 1249679099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well similar thingy. Possibly not exactly the same < 1249679100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1249679117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *do ma < 1249679124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh? < 1249679133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:04] AnMaster: ehird, does macbook pros have PC-card? < 1249679137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/^2/[2/ < 1249679138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1249679144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1249679157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone presents me with a gui irc client for os x that lets me copy lines without fucking the formatting up, I will love them forever < 1249679180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was writing "mac book pro" first and added the s afterwards, forgot to change the "does" then < 1249679193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1249679200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny, because apple's marketing refer to them as singular < 1249679203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :macbooks pro? macbooks pros? macbook pros? < 1249679221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacBook Pros, or, if you're apple, awkawrd sentences like "It makes MacBook Air incredibly light," < 1249679222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think I just demonstrated the reason :P < 1249679224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awkward < 1249679232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, they only sell one unit of every model. < 1249679236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First come, first served! < 1249679246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1249679256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are very clear. < 1249679256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : First come, only served! < 1249679260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what you meant < 1249679267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My statement is still correct. < 1249679277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok, but less useful < 1249679319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw why would only the 17" model have express card? < 1249679336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, lenovo managed to fit *two* slots in this 15.4" model < 1249679349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacked on top of each other < 1249679369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they did a study, found out almost everyone doesn't use it, find out that those who do just put in an SD card reader, replaced it with an SD card slot. Left it in the 17" model for the business/uber-pro people that really, really need it. < 1249679377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that would not work because the macbook pro is a lot thinner < 1249679390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm true < 1249679403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.95" thick, including closed display < 1249679409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, this has an sd reader too < 1249679410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1249679414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the 15" model < 1249679423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :combined SD/MemoryStick/a/few/other/ones < 1249679435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly not the single format I actually use. which is CF < 1249679474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, thing that i learned recently: < 1249679480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :movies aren't edited uncompressed or losslessly < 1249679535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed, they are usually scanned from analogue master < 1249679540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least were < 1249679540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1249679542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no they're not < 1249679567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was ages ago I read about professional movie editing < 1249679571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, things changed < 1249679579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Middle Ages thereabouts, I assume. < 1249679591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 2002? 2003? Something like that < 1249679649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the lojbanic term for MOO is "computerized imaginary universe" < 1249679653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, translates as < 1249679700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1249679704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the name for _the_ lojban moo < 1249679715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it was like: low quality scan from master, *edit and save the edits*, scan high quality, auto apply the edits (would be too slow to work at the high quality when actually editing, yeah it was a while ago), reprint to analogue film "master" which is then used to create the film reels sent to the cinemas < 1249679737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProRes_422 < 1249679740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err, name for a word? < 1249679751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ..........no? < 1249679787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what do you mean about that "moo" then < 1249679792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1249679797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you said was confusing < 1249679812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moo is the noise cows make. < 1249679815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean the word "moo" is Lojban for "computerized imaginary universe" < 1249679816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1249679819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I know that < 1249679837 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1249679841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a joke about how lojban uses short words to represent useless, abstract concepts. < 1249679852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1249679872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar enough with lojban to know that it did that < 1249679886 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1249679888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was a joke about the word "gullible" not being in the dictionary. < 1249679913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1249679923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you didn't get it, let me repeat: < 1249679929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was bullshitting. < 1249679940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I understand that now < 1249679967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does it really use short words for useless (in everyday context) concepts? < 1249679988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and I'm an elephant that can fly. < 1249680003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that means "no" < 1249680017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never know with you < 1249680017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say "no"? < 1249680067 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1249680417 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680417 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680417 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680417 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680417 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :bartol.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1249680418 0 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0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@81.49.247.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1249680483 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1249680495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the clothes < 1249680495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old style I mean < 1249680495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, with these hydraulic stilts < 1249680495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could get really long trousers < 1249680495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get into the guiness book of records < 1249680504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog: < 1249688386 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1249688386 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1249688390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb clog < 1249688428 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think quite a few people are actually working on integrating plan9 better with the functional paradigm, since the functional approach is very strong in network/signal processing/messaging type scenarios that are generally a good match for plan9 architecturally < 1249688431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, btw. Once plan9 supports modern hardware better I might actually consider switching. Oh and I guess once more software is ported to it as well.. < 1249688460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when it works just as out of box on my new thinkpad as ubuntu did. Which I realise is not a reasonable goal at all. < 1249688475 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: my opinion is that the right way to make use of plan9 is not at all to consider 'switching' - but rather to integrate whatever plan9 tools and tech is useful to you, via one of several methods < 1249688487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, I do have plan9port installed < 1249688490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that is what you mean < 1249688492 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which might range from an old box acting as a plan9 server, to using plan9port, to using a virtual machine, etc) < 1249688552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it sometimes. But really I'm way more used to (gnu) emacs than sam or acme < 1249688553 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one way to access some of the tools, if you like them - i also think having a small qemu VM running as a headless cpu server is also a very nice and resource efficient way of adding plan9 stuff to your toolset < 1249688648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, does erlang/otp run on plan9... I don't remember that being supported. And I tend to use my old headless computers as parts of a distributed erlang network. Which means I can select between solaris, freebsd and linux really < 1249688685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, otherwise I would probably run it natively already on them < 1249688685 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me do a quick scan of contrib and see if i see anything erlang-related - not sure if someone has ported stuff or not < 1249688721 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, looks like if any erlang stuff has been done, its not on sources server at least < 1249688730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be rather non-trivial I suspect. < 1249688742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly, it isn't something I would consider doing. < 1249688751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with the JIT stuff and such < 1249688782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not JIT, more like AOT. Still way over my head. < 1249688797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the basic interpreted bit, maybe. < 1249688903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, anyway. I would really want to use the network fs thingy, but I never figured out where to start with it under linux... So I ended up using nfs over the lan < 1249688931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I realize it can do much more than just files. < 1249688936 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1249688938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still didn't figure out how < 1249688950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is the kernel option thingy and that is all < 1249688960 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, honestly, the 9p stuff in linux is kind of a hassle, in my experience - i use plan9port but mostly for venti and some other stuff < 1249689015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, since I have modern hardware and I use 3D graphics quite a bit (and want reasonable frame rates) I don't expect I will run anything but linux as the "base" OS during the next few years < 1249689017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1249689048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang sorta sucks < 1249689063 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: im not expecting to change away from linux controlling most of my hardware either, but that doesnt interfere with my use of plan9 at all < 1249689108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is your opinion. IME all non-trivial programming languages has both good and bad bits. Every non-trivial language has some quirk. < 1249689130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, I can't state one opinion without AnMaster turning into plato or whatever mentioning "OH, THAT'S YOUR OPINION" < 1249689132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure I heard you mention some in haskell too ehird. < 1249689140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's an objective fact woven into the universe that erlang sucks!!! < 1249689147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ERLANG SUCKS" was encoded in the big bang < 1249689149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ...? < 1249689161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :factory < 1249689162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, right. < 1249689166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the LHC has proved that it is a universal truth that erlang sucks < 1249689166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact. < 1249689181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why do you never give up... < 1249689192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: are you trying to yank my chains there......?? < 1249689193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with being so childish) < 1249689196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point <-------------> anmaster's head < 1249689206 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The LHC didn't run yet, ehird < 1249689209 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be silly < 1249689210 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you tell such an outrageous lie < 1249689215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: doesn't matter, i used the sucking of erlang to see into the future < 1249689227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean god, someone tell me what time it id < 1249689228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to spell it out for you < 1249689228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1249689231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time i say an opinion < 1249689233 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you can see the future with it, that doesn't suck < 1249689234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you go "THAT'S YOUR OPINION" < 1249689238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you're making some epic point < 1249689239 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you resolve that paradox? < 1249689241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not every time < 1249689242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's my damn opinion, I SAID IT < 1249689243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check logs < 1249689250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: it sucks as a programming language < 1249689252 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: really, isnt it just YOUR OPINION that every time you say an opinion, he says that? < 1249689256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck you, shall i talk in objective predicates all the time? < 1249689263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY BY EVERY TIME MAYBE I JUST MEAN REALLY OFTEN < 1249689264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1249689274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :human communication being subjective and imprecise. who'da thunk it! < 1249689309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, isn't lojban supposed to "fix" that? < 1249689320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're surely trolling < 1249689323 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rate ehird's rant 9.0 out of 10 on the rantmeter < 1249689326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes :P < 1249689337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo AnMaster doesn't use "that's your opinion" too much, or in stupid ways, then again that's just my opinion < 1249689343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, only? I would place it at 9.8 at leasyt < 1249689344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :least* < 1249689348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION < 1249689352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: why thank you < 1249689354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, :D < 1249689358 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i have pretty high standards for rants, since i deliver quite a few myself when triggered < 1249689380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: good point! < 1249689397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: anyway it's 23:56 bst < 1249689399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv, ouch < 1249689410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, fun fact, gmt+1 < 1249689412 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i envy your pasty present. < 1249689419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in here it's much later < 1249689423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:56 here < 1249689437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, it's 00:57 there < 1249689443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was when you said that line, too < 1249689450 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me actually of one of my own rants: when i was in school, we had to learn to classify statements as 'fact' vs. 'opinion' - but the problem is, the definition of 'fact' was basically purely based on authority < 1249689455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for mycroftiv it seems to be much much earlier < 1249689465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: just go around the world < 1249689466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really fast < 1249689470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, damn yes, I looked at clock and then it switched half a second later < 1249689471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll never spend any time < 1249689489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FACT: Gay marriage will destroy the world. < 1249689507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so slighly slower than a concorde then? < 1249689509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FACT: Dettol protects?) < 1249689521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: concorde goes faster than sound, not time. < 1249689535 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gay marriage is meaningless < 1249689538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, faster than timezones < 1249689553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: tru dat, also interracial marriage < 1249689557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they already get the legal benefits < 1249689566 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret of eternal youth is circling the pole going against the flow of timezones, you go back in time one day per revolution < 1249689579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycroftiv: but that's what i'm saying! < 1249689581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go fast enough < 1249689587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well marriage isn't pointless, from a legal standpoint < 1249689588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and time will never pass an hour