< 1250467571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abitbit.com/ < 1250467933 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks a bit down < 1250467952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my < 1250468180 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loads here < 1250468187 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is quite slow < 1250468764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeps getting a 500 error < 1250468780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddited i guess < 1250468896 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a bit down" :) < 1250468981 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1250469294 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"." < 1250473282 0 :Sneezle!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"good night, have fun o/" < 1250473949 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250476104 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1250477126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, K < 1250477148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so awesome < 1250477323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S..t:".[`D;(;);{. y};S[]];S[.;`f]:9$D[]" < 1250477324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S:D:.+(`$'_ci 97+!10;10 30#,"") < 1250477324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`show$`S < 1250477325 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1250477330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a spreadsheet < 1250477357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-j, 0-29 < 1250477368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :formulas like a[0]+j[29] < 1250477376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :labels like "foo" < 1250477431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty awesome. < 1250477432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot: < 1250477441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/n8uHT.png < 1250477446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's a full gui < 1250477455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there is NO code other than those three lines < 1250477467 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1250477476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculously concise < 1250477478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1250477488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1250477514 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel confident in saying that C is why we can't have nice things. < 1250477520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one caveat: you can't get the formula after entering it; the cell updates but editing it gives the current value and clicking away from it makes it keep that value < 1250477523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's like a two line fix < 1250477531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you certainly changed after learning haskell :P < 1250477562 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... You mean there's something actually *better* than tons of boilerplate or ZOMG objects?" < 1250477569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, the entirety of K is 181 kilobytes compiled < 1250477579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3K trivial wrapper k.exe and 178K k20.dll < 1250477586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.O < 1250477587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(windows version; gui on linux is iffy) < 1250477594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but sizes are similar) < 1250477607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 60% of the impl is the gui < 1250477754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh, and kdb, the column-based db with sql support, http interface including xml/excel export and html/js interface, which powers a bunch of financial institutions? < 1250477763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :69KB < 1250477770 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of why I'm bitter about C today is that I've been working with Plof's C FFI today. < 1250477775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consisting of .kr files (basically dumped K objects, including code) < 1250477779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.dll files < 1250477784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one gif for the web interface < 1250477793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(.dll files are 8K+16K, ODBC interface) < 1250477804 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is enough to make you despise C. < 1250477806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whole of actual really fast kdb is written in k) < 1250477835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ridiculous, really < 1250477838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1250477883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disadvantage: hard to use many other languages now < 1250477886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, I think what I hate most about C is its awful, awful error handling. < 1250477903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i hate most about c is everything. < 1250477914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WURVE C < 1250477933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no comment. < 1250478004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually patched k's binary xD < 1250478026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it started a console window which on wine was wonky, so i replaced a few bytes with nop and it stopped bringing it up < 1250478036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead using the terminal i started wine from < 1250478045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who says you can't improve non-open-source < 1250478329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though i'd prefer it open source. and not circa 2005 due to them going k4/q, which abandons the functional reactive programming gui) < 1250478611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oh well < 1250478613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun < 1250478696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: if you liked that, here's a one-line sudoku solver < 1250478697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s:{*(,x)(,/{@[x;y;:;]'&21=x[&|/p[;y]=p]?!10}')/&~x} < 1250478711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, though it doesn't run on my k :( < 1250480951 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250481086 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250483038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(,!#y),(((#x)-1;1)#1+!#x),\:(#y)#0 < 1250483753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1250483786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = getArgs >>= readFile . head >>= parse -- I think that Haskell has my favorite file handling. < 1250483836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in k that's... < 1250483885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1250484017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm < 1250484068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to do args < 1250484128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to find
< 1250484259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, _i it seems < 1250484268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1250484282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1250484296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: parse(6:_i[0]) < 1250484316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_i being arguments, 6: being read file as character vector. < 1250484323 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Pretty spiffy. < 1250484365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1250484393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a vast improvement on the usual model of "Let's give you fopen and fread and friends". < 1250484408 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for loops. < 1250484412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, turns out such atomic operations are totally useless :P < 1250484433 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally. :P < 1250484469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1250484546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1250484573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: to parse and read each file, < 1250484591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse' 6::'_i < 1250484616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have to put a colon after 6: to note we mean the monadic (1-arg) version; not the (filename 6: contents) writing version < 1250484632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f' x) is applying f to each element of x < 1250484638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_i is args like normal < 1250484654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if we want to each a dyad, it's (list f' list), which does the obvious) < 1250484665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and for an n-adic function, f'[list;list;list;...]) < 1250484725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: the haskell equivalent is uhh < 1250484728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1250484756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getArgs >>= mapM readFle >>= fmap (map parse) < 1250484758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1250484773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1250484777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1250484787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the k is more readable < 1250484797 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit more verbose than the K, but still rather nice. < 1250484812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though (do args <- getArgs; contents <- mapM readFile args; parses <- fmap (map parse)) works too, but is tedious < 1250484845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. fmap (map parse) <<= mapM readFile <<= getArgs < 1250484863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readable, but has more cruft than the k version imo < 1250484911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so, uh, a 512-bit RSA key has been factored < 1250484914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=8888 < 1250484921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the TI-83+ OS signing key < 1250484921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work with the same parse as above... < 1250484930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: prolly not, whatever < 1250484942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I am scared. < 1250484943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm < 1250484945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: don't be < 1250484947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gave an IO result < 1250484950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: a high-end pc can do it in 2 months straight < 1250484957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :core 2 quad < 1250484962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not a great feat < 1250484976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, 512-bit. < 1250484979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said on UTI, this took a fair amount of CPU power -- about 73 days of computation -- but it didn't really take a lot of work from me; mostly I just watched the numbers go up, and periodically started up another Msieve run. < 1250484985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... People use 512-bit encryption? < 1250485002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in 1999? yes. < 1250485005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getArgs >>= mapM readFile >>= mapM parse < 1250485021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't beat parse' 6::'_i < 1250485022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1250485042 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unreadability is hard to beat ;) < 1250485062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll go ask a java programmer what your snippet does. < 1250485093 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let g = getArgs; (>) = (>>=); m = mapM; r = readFile in g>m r>m pare < 1250485104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's unreadable. < 1250485152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, kdb is ridiculously fast. < 1250485178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be hard to construct a query on 100,000 records that takes an actually perceptible time < 1250485232 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Query: which records, when executed as x86 code, halt within 30 seconds? < 1250485248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck formulating that as a ksql query < 1250485261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the answer is likely "all of them". < 1250485310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksql is not strictly sql, btw, although iirc it has an sql9x something in it < 1250485320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ksql itself seems to be nicer than sql. < 1250486078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5:14am; should i sleep? < 1250486207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1250486238 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base/head/lib/libc/stdlib/rb.h?revision=178995&view=markup This is stunning. Evil, but stunning. < 1250486276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: when should i sleep < 1250486299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time tomorrow. < 1250486317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: srsly though. < 1250486543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1250486614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1250487190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1250488178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1250491244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird (for log reading): There is a good reason to use disk encryption in a laptop, even if you use a bios password: it is easy to take the disk out. If disk is encrypted information will still be unreadable :P < 1250491254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1250495999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1250496000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1250497456 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-238-252-238.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1250498094 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1250499329 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1250499841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: pikhq: parse(6:_i[0]) <<< so 6:_i is a character vector, and somehow [0] extracts first line? or how does the parsing go here < 1250499854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1250499862 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6:(_i[0]) obviously < 1250500108 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250502442 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-4-22.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250505135 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250506807 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mbs_idx(x) = { n = 2^i; >> n; x | n = 1; i } < 1250506830 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*msb < 1250506928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the muture paradigm, maximizing is a beautiful way to do absolute declarativity < 1250506945 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muture? < 1250506970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muture is one of my languages, the idea that (>> expr) maximizes the value of expr is from it < 1250506973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google gives stuff about "muture women" < 1250506977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1250507001 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess there's nothing about it anywhere? :-P < 1250507016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's *my* language, so of course not < 1250507029 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's lame < 1250507054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not muture code anyway < 1250507074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's code in a language whose name i haven't even mentioned here < 1250507091 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muture i've talked about, here, a bit i use #esoteric as my official specs :P < 1250507098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the logs < 1250507106 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a bit, i use < 1250507521 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximizing stuff is difficult. < 1250507580 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying it's at all practical, i'm saying i like to express stuff that way :) < 1250507618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm way past caring whether things can be implemented. < 1250507653 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you maximize user's enjoyment? < 1250507710 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there are no side-effects < 1250507877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could add that for debugging, i mean getting a dose of heroin every time there's a bug might make testing much more fun < 1250507878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1250507884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heroin might not be the best way to go < 1250507920 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but something with a better fun/unfun ratio < 1250508595 0 :jix!n=jix@188-193-95-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1250508880 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250509792 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250510202 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-57-102.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1250511234 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250511867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello from university < 1250511869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1250511871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is using the bouncer at home through a ssh tunnel
< 1250511927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ehird when he gets here: login is seriously screwy < 1250511937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said it used WPA on the website with config stuff < 1250511939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1250511955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is open and when you try to load anything in a browser you get an *unencrypted* login page < 1250511961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which says it is using ssl < 1250511965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the text < 1250511967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't < 1250511977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the bad bit is still to come < 1250511991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after verifying that, it redirects you to a web page with a broken cert < 1250511995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this time it is ssl < 1250512005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems to vary between access points < 1250512018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always some ip starting at 72.* < 1250512021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very odd < 1250512058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :traceroute refuses to work here for some reason < 1250512073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tracepath *does* work < 1250512078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of < 1250512083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 3 jumps < 1250512085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no longer < 1250512127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems I have IP 10.8.2.234 < 1250512142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would collide with virtualbox, need to adjust that to use the third private range I guess < 1250512149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I use 192.168.0.x at home < 1250512215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I got a pass card thingy heh < 1250512221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Doors < 1250512243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't found anywhere to try it yet < 1250512265 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you start uni? < 1250512388 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1250512462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes < 1250512630 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started now, in Sweden? < 1250512651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1250512652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :began < 1250512658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possiblyt < 1250512663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the word "at" < 1250512678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh wait, you didn't try to mean that what I said really meant "founded" < 1250512679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250512689 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1250512692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misunderstood you, misunderstanding me < 1250512723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well, it hasn't started fully, however they have a math course starting two weeks before... it is repetition of high school basically < 1250512743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, a better teacher than I had at high school < 1250512744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by far < 1250512753 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So only first-years are there? < 1250512755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really useful < 1250512760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, eh? < 1250512763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1250512768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said two week course < 1250512792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well, in two weeks I start at studying to dataingengör < 1250512794 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know < 1250512803 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you said it hasn't started fully < 1250512809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1250512810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1250512814 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that you only have some kind of repetitiony math course < 1250512821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen a bit hard to read, ubuntu auto dimmed it < 1250512825 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, to me, suggests that it's some kind of extra thing for first-years < 1250512829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said "first-years", not "first year" < 1250512830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1250512866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a few others iirc, studying to become teachers, and deciding to take the course < 1250512867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1250512879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of the ~50 people were first-years at uni yes < 1250512892 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, obviously the teachers and assistants for you guys etc :-) < 1250512914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway I find the wlan login amusing, suspending for a few minutes doesn't seem to log you out always, only sometimes < 1250512915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1250512926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell can't I do a traceroute OR tracepath from here < 1250512983 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so you do officially start at the same time we do < 1250512992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm in the library < 1250513003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awkward chairs for using computers on a table in front < 1250513035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to find somewhere else if I don't want my back to start hurting more than it already started, brb, *disconnects from bouncer* < 1250513140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow.. < 1250513143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still connected < 1250513149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I suspended < 1250513155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh tunnel didn't disconnect < 1250513158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1250513603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that again < 1250513776 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1250514479 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms644936(VS.85,loband).aspx - a BOOL-returning function that can return zero, nonzero, or -1 < 1250514537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, heh? < 1250514551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much work to click with the () IN IT < 1250514553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1250514554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in it* < 1250514560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what happened there to the keyboard < 1250514653 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily i have a modern client that makes it easy to click even links with parens! < 1250514754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I could adjust regex < 1250514760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it not stop at () < 1250514781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but meh, only links with parens in I can recall atm are the msdn ones < 1250514805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine fails for (url), which is far more common < 1250514816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Wikipedia? < 1250514874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to make both work ofc, but i have no idea how to fix that in nnscript, so i guess you win < 1250514926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, they seem to be url encoded there < 1250514928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is no issue < 1250514948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, most people post them that way < 1250514949 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar_(disambiguation) < 1250514955 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look URL encoded to me < 1250515018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well, when I copy it, it ends up url encoded < 1250515022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, going home now < 1250515028 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an odd browser :-P < 1250515453 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1250516374 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1250517208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back at home < 1250517211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, firefox < 1250517248 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't make it less odd < 1250517256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still on 2.0? < 1250517312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well, on there I was, since I installed using ubuntu < 1250517319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1250517320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1250517324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever is the next last version < 1250517326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.0? < 1250517327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1250517332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ^ < 1250517337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1250517347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the 3.5 < 1250517355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, 3.0 < 1250517359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same on desktop < 1250517364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed AGES ago < 1250517369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the old one stopped being supported < 1250517402 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.0.13 here < 1250517516 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off too -> < 1250517762 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@82.182.180.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1250518476 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-134-23.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250518862 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-4-22.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250519301 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-24-75.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1250519933 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250520291 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250521145 0 :Sneezle!n=marten@dyndsl-095-033-024-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1250521715 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1250522564 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oho, the first spammer to send mail to one of my plus addresses < 1250522576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took 2 years < 1250522607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i got spam < 1250522704 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put e-mail addresses on the WWW and it will come < 1250522716 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it might take a while, like it did now < 1250523065 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just get spam on my real adresses ._. < 1250523075 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ad/add/ < 1250523153 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i don't think i have the energy for that < 1250523374 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.76.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1250523699 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1250523715 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1250524276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunes.org seems down < 1250524279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1250524280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just slow < 1250524305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:40:44 ehird (for log reading): There is a good reason to use disk encryption in a laptop, even if you use a bios password: it is easy to take the disk out. If disk is encrypted information will still be unreadable :P < 1250524306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1250524352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, I'm assume a laptop like mine where you can take the disk out in a minute or so. < 1250524371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my harddrive is terribly boring < 1250524371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than something like an unibody mac < 1250524378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1250524380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with macs. < 1250524388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just get a screwdriver, take off three < 1250524389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and open the lid < 1250524393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought unibody ones were harder < 1250524393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada, harddrive < 1250524397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1250524409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so it is a unibody in two parts? :D < 1250524414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may be thinking of the battery, which lasts 3x as long as usual batteries and can't be replaced < 1250524421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1250524424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1250524431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed everything was as bad as that < 1250524451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it can be replaced, actually. < 1250524453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just send it away < 1250524459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1250524464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know that < 1250524465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or destroy your warranty by doing it yourself) < 1250524470 0 :Sneezle!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"good night, have fun o/" < 1250524477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, I'm glad I didn't get a larger battery < 1250524482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1250524498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't have fitted in this laptop backpack. So I would have had to get the model for 17" laptops < 1250524512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop will be 12.1" < 1250524514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it is, it is maybe half a cm in the relevant direction that is free < 1250524519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll be hard pressed to find a bag it doesn't fit in < 1250524526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with a 30 cell battery :P < 1250524531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not 31 though! < 1250524551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, bag made for 15.4" widescreen. Laptop is 15.4" widescreen < 1250524553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fits yes < 1250524563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a lot of space free around that < 1250524583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the computer section I mean) < 1250524584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.1" + 9 cell is smaller than a 13.3", prolly < 1250524587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sticks out an inch < 1250524589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, of course < 1250524594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a bit less < 1250524600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the screen might be too small but it looks fine < 1250524714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's golf Hamming distance: error out if the two strings aren't the same length, then return the number of characters that they differ by. Define it as a two-argument function "ham". < 1250524717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In K: < 1250524723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham:{+/~x=y} < 1250524737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw, I now have my own card to pass Doors < 1250524746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets hope I won't have as much trouble as ais did < 1250524749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do Doors even exist. < 1250524755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to trust people more. < 1250524769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to prevent People from Entering certain Rooms < 1250524772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250524787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1250524797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do ↑↑ the golfing in erlang? < 1250524804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm interested in seeing how much it FAILS HORRIBLY < 1250524828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can understand them, expensive computers. Sure you don't want students from other parts of the university to use the computers meant for _your_ students < 1250524849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they want they could go to the ones in the library instead < 1250524862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway, read log to see how whacky the wlan login they use is < 1250524865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're not being used, it doesn't hurt anybody; and besides, dammit, if you think your students are gonna ruin everything they shouldn't be your students < 1250524887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:17:57 i guess you could add that for debugging, i mean getting a dose of heroin every time there's a bug might make testing much more fun < 1250524888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1250524902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you just start adding bugs on purpos < 1250524902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1250524908 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham xs ys | length xs == length ys = undefined | otherwise = length [ x : y | x<-xs, y<-ys, x != y] -- Like that? < 1250524923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much golf there, though. < 1250524937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Dayum bitch that's some verbosity. < 1250524939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:25:55 it is open and when you try to load anything in a browser you get an *unencrypted* login page < 1250524939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:26:01 which says it is using ssl < 1250524940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:26:05 as in the text < 1250524940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:26:07 but it doesn't < 1250524940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it is < 1250524942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :view page source < 1250524946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

error k, K < 1250528668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but < 1250528674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is infinite-rank = in itself < 1250528719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm right, J has that too < 1250528729 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's not ~ < 1250528973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: [17:08] kpierre_: k doesn't have ranks < 1250528974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:08] kpierre_: unlike other apls < 1250529143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what chan? < 1250529171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what network < 1250529200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's a jabber chat and i'd have to ask them if you could come. < 1250529206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can if you want. < 1250529230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to look up jabber chat first < 1250529235 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ham=(.)(.)(.)sum$zipWith(((.).(.))fromEnum(/=)) but doesn't error out on unequal-length lists < 1250529235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1250529246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: man hasksell is lame. < 1250529251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*haskell < 1250529266 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`man haskell` < 1250529267 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1250529270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is jabber an alternative to irc < 1250529272 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No manual entry for haskell < 1250529272 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course if we had a better Prelude that could be something like ham=sum.:zipWith'(fromEnum.:(/=)) < 1250529278 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right, that is lame! < 1250529278 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: that was pretty lame < 1250529285 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A more anal zipWith and (.:)=(.).(.)) < 1250529287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: jabber's an alternative to both msn/aim/etc and irc < 1250529296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use bitlbee so it's just an irc channel to me. < 1250529296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: right < 1250529307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1250529312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://register.jabber.org/ < 1250529318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :username, password twice, captcha, click register < 1250529321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have an account < 1250529332 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'd have to get a program too < 1250529342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, like 3 more clicks < 1250529347 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1250529352 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the point is < 1250529357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how about I ask them first so you feel an obligation if they say yes. < 1250529364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be there a few times, then stop < 1250529377 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no i won't, don't be silly < 1250529381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.jabbear.com/en/ < 1250529383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :web client :P < 1250529415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, turns out i need to leave right now < 1250529416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1250529419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1250529420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1250529614 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... < 1250529617 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd call it jabbear. < 1250529640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1250529673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. < 1250529677 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :71| If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. < 1250529913 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1250529919 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1250529924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523! < 1250529940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1250530151 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1250530357 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1250530575 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250530844 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-6-50.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1250531011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems our heroic anti-troll is PuzzleHunter84 < 1250531043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting idea, but how can it possibly work? (Even if it doesn't) --Zzo38 03:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC) < 1250531043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—Talk:Almost impossible to learn and apply esoteric programming language < 1250531067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, I don't think he's a troll, oh dear < 1250531084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: here's why I think so < 1250531089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says he made http://esolangs.org/wiki/Topline < 1250531089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I think zzo38's reaction towards that is the same as my reaction towards TURKEY BOMB < 1250531095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no no < 1250531096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the author < 1250531099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen < 1250531103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says he made http://esolangs.org/wiki/Topline < 1250531111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is close to the generic cookie-cutter esolang we all hate < 1250531112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND < 1250531125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BF derivative acronyms as Ihybrid < 1250531132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which suggests the title may be a joke, and was just picked to acronym like that < 1250531135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND < 1250531139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he says he's going to try and implement the other one < 1250531154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the author of ihybrid is a troll < 1250531154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus < 1250531156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm working on it and it will hopefully work. It is going to be incredibly complex and difficult to understand and even I wouldn't attempt to make a working interpreter. It'll hopefully be pretty close to Malbolge in the amount of confusion to be caused, but simple programs will hopefully be easier to write than in Malboge." < 1250531161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't even seem joking at all < 1250531165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ugh < 1250531166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-troll < 1250531167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1250531169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the languages are serious < 1250531171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I'm saying < 1250531172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read what I sadi < 1250531174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*said < 1250531186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I don't see why they can't be < 1250531204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then how is it a counter troll < 1250531210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and topline is relatively cookie-cutter, but not nearly as much as, say, Minimal < 1250531221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a counter troll because he's being sincere with the language < 1250531225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :topline isn't counter-trolling; I think ihybrid may be, though < 1250531229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he's trolling Minimal, I think it's a coincidence < 1250531232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1250531234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name was almost certainly picked for the acronym < 1250531258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be a complaint against BF-derivatives in general < 1250531259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and considering the rest of the evidence, it seems like he might actually be part of the crappy BF derivative/zomgz really hard language brigade < 1250531273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but I find that unlikely given: < 1250531278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm working on it and it will hopefully work. It is going to be incredibly complex and difficult to understand and even I wouldn't attempt to make a working interpreter. It'll hopefully be pretty close to Malbolge in the amount of confusion to be caused, but simple programs will hopefully be easier to write than in Malboge." < 1250531297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I can easily see "Almost impossible to learn and apply esoteric programming language" being a tongue in cheek, but sincere, name for a "zomg hard!!11" esolang < 1250531324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is it's meant to be hard to write in and harder to implement < 1250531327 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very underspecified < 1250531341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, I think given the other evidence, the underspecification isn't intentional, per se < 1250531354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it leads me to believe that he's just whimsical with names for his sincere-but-terrible languages < 1250531360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. given ihybrid's acronym < 1250531464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess our brains are the counter-trolls for thinking it was :) < 1250531466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could just ask the guy. < 1250531557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, unintentional counter-trolling is still counter-trolling < 1250531573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by that logic, Minimal is counter-trolling < 1250531596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :counter-trolling what, though? < 1250531606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible BF derivatives < 1250531653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've just given me an urge to post BF without ] onto the wiki again < 1250531666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, if you assumed the ]s went at the end of the program, would it be TC? < 1250531678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[code] with skip-next-if-true is TC < 1250531681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so prolly. < 1250531691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*skip-next-if-false < 1250531697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1250531698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no prolly not < 1250531700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mayb < 1250531701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1250531705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not obvious < 1250531714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about without [ < 1250531722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we infer where the [ is < 1250531730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's much harder to infer < 1250531731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on when we made a pertinent change to the current cell < 1250531733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:) < 1250532387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder < 1250532404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the password thingy at the uni forbid passwords ending with a digit < 1250532413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only allow between 6 and 8 letters < 1250532419 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to stop people just incrementing a number at the end whenever they have to change their password < 1250532429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, they could increment in the middle < 1250532429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1250532430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more or less an infinite number of password security misconceptions < 1250532436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just ran into one of them < 1250532445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, they also forbid at the start < 1250532451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in the middle < 1250532470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw, how is the Door nowdays? < 1250532494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: haven't gone to that department for a while, I've graduated < 1250532499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah :D < 1250532506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what department are you at then < 1250532514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm, I'm on holiday < 1250532517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1250532535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and now I have my own Door card. For the local university here < 1250532544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I won't have issues with it < 1250532675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1250532682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shouldn't learn good languages < 1250532780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn Java. < 1250532800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what has been learnt cannot be unlearnt < 1250532811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually the other way around. i think K has made me unlearn the "art" of writing useless metacode. < 1250532917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. :P < 1250532971 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metacode? < 1250532990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that isn't directly related to the actual thing being done < 1250533007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every language has it by necessity. it's just that almost every other non-K language has a whole heap more. < 1250533030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the worst offenders is imperative code; that paradigm is _all_ metacode) < 1250533051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and some imperative langs more than others < 1250533056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, absolutely < 1250533067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ADA, you need an emacs macro just to write a loop without dying of boredom < 1250533071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying that imperative code inherently has metagunk < 1250533072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what about this autumn. Will you go to university then < 1250533073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1250533081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, starting on a PhD hopefully < 1250533089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, same department? < 1250533093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1250533122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please, make it involve esolangs < 1250533136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's in computer science < 1250533141 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's likely to end up tangentially related < 1250533144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably no more than that, though < 1250533154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 and follow the time-honoured naming tradition of "Meaningless Catchy Title: Long String of Specific Jargon"? < 1250533159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ais523: < 1250533160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must! < 1250533170 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows? < 1250533176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, example of that? < 1250533179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE TOO EDGY AND UNCONVENTIONAL < 1250533192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The original, afaik, was Bananas in Space: Extending Fold and Unfold to Exponential Types < 1250533195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.1.7380 < 1250533203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1250533208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1250533208 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a more complicated title-decomposition: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=718 < 1250533220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250533259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :academia is awesome. < 1250533280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice < 1250533345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest part of doing a phd must be picking a really obscure topic. < 1250533353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to imagine you optimise for that. < 1250533380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1250533385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Thesis on the optimisation of Brainfuck? < 1250533403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: despite appearances possibly gleaned from listening to AnMaster, it's not actually all that interesting or hard < 1250533420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nearly impossible enough for a phd. < 1250533427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's obscure. < 1250533432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I know why the password is so limited now in length, it needs to be possible to enter on the photocopiers :D < 1250533434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you wanted to, you could make it hard. < 1250533444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet they can't handle more than a limited length < 1250533445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: (a) not the only criteria, and not THAT obscure < 1250533447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) not really < 1250533459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what length < 1250533485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, considering there is a photo of one in the manual page of how to use one that says 0/10 entered < 1250533488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the screen < 1250533491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1250533492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what length < 1250533492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, fine. Try to create a language that is as hard to optimise as possible. < 1250533494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is two more < 1250533497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what length < 1250533498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than the length limit < 1250533499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of 8 < 1250533502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's common. < 1250533510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it's just because of the photocopiers. < 1250533512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, see above I mentioned it there < 1250533526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is a "no number at start or end" too < 1250533532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mentioned above < 1250533541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :length 8 maximum is common < 1250533549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but insecure < 1250533559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking! < 1250533649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how many people use the MUA Eudora < 1250533651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea? < 1250533662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the past, many many many people < 1250533673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today? Eudora 8 (mozilla based), probably like 5 < 1250533676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :older versions, quite a few < 1250533677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why < 1250533691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, the uni has setup instructions for Eudora 6.2, and outlook express, but none for thunderbird < 1250533701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the "student mail" thingy < 1250533707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your university is techtarded, why are you surprised < 1250533715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is plain IMAP and works in thunderbird though < 1250533732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there are wlan setup instructions for XP, 2000 and 9x < 1250533735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but none for vista < 1250533738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your university is techtarded, why are you surprised < 1250533738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your university is techtarded, why are you surprised < 1250533738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is funny too < 1250533745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm not surprised < 1250533748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just find it funny < 1250533751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why are you mentioning it < 1250533756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I just find it funny < 1250533758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why < 1250533833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh there is a guide how to install some root cert they use, to make those invalid certs work < 1250533840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a download for that cert, over http < 1250533842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even https < 1250533851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who gives a shit. < 1250533861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not going to do that without verifying the checksum with tech support
< 1250533870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1250533873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that'll happen < 1250533880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, fingerprint then? < 1250533893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hello, what is the checksum for the root certificate? < 1250533899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is your computer turned on? < 1250533903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes, what is the checksum? < 1250533906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even funnier, it first gave 404, but when I changed the year part of it to the current year it worked < 1250533908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : OK, does "google.com" work? < 1250533911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes, what is the checksum? < 1250533916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah < 1250533920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Okay, try shutting it down and starting it up again. < 1250533927 0 :GregorR-L_!n=gregor@pal-178-055.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1250533931 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250533937 0 :GregorR-L_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-L < 1250533941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can right click cert in windows and get it < 1250533944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1250533944 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, I was just about to ghost 'im too. < 1250534039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, funny thing is, that some certs they use are valid < 1250534057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where in this context valid = firefox doesn't complain < 1250534105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my... "Microsoft Developers Network Academic Alliance" < 1250534107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is that < 1250534130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads
< 1250534205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's obviously a terrible and incomprehensible idea because it has Microsoft in the name. < 1250534214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MSDN Academic Alliance (MSDNAA) is a Microsoft program available to academic organizations, mainly colleges and universities, although there is also a high school version. The participating schools pay an annual fee for the MSDNAA service, in exchange for which, applicable departments (computer science, computer engineering, information technology, and related fields of that organization) as well as students and faculty can acquire licensed copies of Microsof < 1250534227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I found that < 1250534231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t Windows, Visual Studio and other products. The list of software each college and university gets is dependent on the agreements made by that particular organization. < 1250534243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is a terrible idea to promote microsoft this way! ;P < 1250534281 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our Windows box here is courtesy of MSDNAA. < 1250534295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs the pdf viewer several times
< 1250534302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one in gnome I mean < 1250534334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it defaults to non-continuous scrolling, so I need to change every time I open a pdf file... < 1250534505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1250534505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1250534512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? At least here Evince remembers the "continuous" setting. < 1250534515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate learning new languages. It makes me want to write programs. :P < 1250534518 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for one PDF file, anyway. < 1250534540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Your logic and facts cannot stand in the way of our irrational hatred of Gnome and its WAR ON FREEDOM AND CHOICE! < 1250534559 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be a bit document-specific indeed. Somehow. < 1250534572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, *that's* weird. < 1250534655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm that; Evince persists information per-file < 1250534661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even remembers the location you've scrolled to < 1250534674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :closing Evince, therefore, can be undone just by opening it again < 1250534679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting paradigm < 1250534694 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it seems to write per-file things to ~/.gnome2/evince/ev-metadata.xml. < 1250534720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scrolling thing makes sense < 1250534723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :document-based paradigm < 1250534730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that makes the viewing mode make sorta sense < 1250534737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could do with a global preference for a default < 1250534796 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a hunch the default is what-it-used-to-be-in-the-last-open-document, though I didn't really do extensive tests on that. < 1250534806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then. < 1250534816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That also makes sense.) < 1250534842 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think it takes them from the element. < 1250534858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have to use it at 1250530794 unix time for it to take effect? < 1250534860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1250534885 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The atime is probably for expiration. It seems to remember 15 latest documents there. < 1250534921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a joke; surely 1250530794 is like, now? < 1250534924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minus some seconds. < 1250534930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was joking that it searched for exactly that time. < 1250535410 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I just got one of my textbooks. It is apparently not for sale in the US. < 1250535419 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooh international editions! < 1250535427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1250535437 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would explain why it cost $30 instead of $200. < 1250535467 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooh unbelievable cost of textbooks! < 1250535604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, part of the university website (a part called "e-blackboard"), refuses to accept firefox, user agent made that work, but it then refuses to accept jre 1.6, it wants jre 1.4 < 1250535608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1250535632 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite stunning that they charge so dramatically more for the US. < 1250535644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: old code. < 1250535669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but that should run in 1.6 VM too < 1250535691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if they check (vm==1.4) to weed out old versions. < 1250535740 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your university is quickly achieving a high score on the suckomiter. < 1250535748 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suckometer < 1250535759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but that is just silly, since there is a link to some .com thingy at the bottom, as who made it < 1250535770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so? < 1250535783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, they will run into issues < 1250535795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most modern systems wouldn't have JRE 1.4 any more < 1250535814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think JRE 1.4 exists for my architecture. < 1250535818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also use open source, for the bit that works best < 1250535820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jasig.org/uportal < 1250535822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, same here < 1250535843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what company is behind that < 1250536073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Sinnax Cossack's Mathematical Emporium | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1250536132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sounds like the name of a shop in nethack < 1250536140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sinnax Cossack's. Say it fast. < 1250536155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't know how to pronounce it < 1250536161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "Sinnax Cossack's". < 1250536167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah hah < 1250536174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll work just about any way. < 1250536187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rhymes? < 1250536200 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃" < 1250536210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1250536257 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't get it either.
< 1250536261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1250536280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Say it fast dammit. < 1250536285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, pay attention to the following word. < 1250536317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sin(x) cos(x)? < 1250536323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You win a prize. < 1250536338 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about you win the ability to realize that "ex" and "ax" aren't pronounced the same way X_X < 1250536368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my dialect, at least, "Sinnax Cossack's" sounds quite like "sin(x) cos(x)". < 1250536394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try it in RP < 1250536407 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it in GA :P < 1250536419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, GA? Generic American? < 1250536423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Well! I *am* a faggot." < 1250536431 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "General" American < 1250536442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: "Schwer" < 1250536448 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Damned right bitch < 1250536469 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION schwers it up a notch
< 1250536961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I much prefer american English < 1250536969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if I can't understand that < 1250536978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of the time < 1250537007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1250537033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/podcasts/IrregularPodcast007.mp3 < 1250537036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that :P < 1250537053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is fine to begin with < 1250537060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but listen for a few minutes < 1250537073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just 5 minutes and 12 seconds long < 1250537075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that australian < 1250537084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1250537088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what I meant < 1250537091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo above < 1250537091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1250537148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, why do you prefer australian english, and prefer it to what < 1250537185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it sounds quaint, doesn't it? < 1250537200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not my question < 1250537201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as for "to what": American English < 1250537211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why, you didn't give a reason, it was completely without context < 1250537226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some american dialects < 1250537231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1250537237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why what < 1250537253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:22] AnMaster: then I much prefer american English < 1250537257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was nothing attached to "then" < 1250537259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's lik < 1250537259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1250537266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Then I like cake < 1250537267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1250537271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : then I much prefer green cake < 1250537275 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1250537276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why? < 1250537277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why what? < 1250537277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was connected to the above discussion < 1250537280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of dialects < 1250537287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the above discussion had no obvious thing to point out as a reason for that < 1250537289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and: why not? < 1250537299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :................ < 1250537304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you understand what the word "then" means. < 1250537322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure, I just skipped some logical steps < 1250537328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I didn't print out < 1250537338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we call printing out these logical steps "communication" < 1250537340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering dialects or a while < 1250537361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, we wouldn't have had this discussion without me doing that < 1250537369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would have been dead and quiet < 1250537372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1250537375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......... < 1250537388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just put words together and hope they make any kind of sense. < 1250537395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain's hurting just trying to comprehend anything you've said. < 1250538352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : get:{x[&x[;0]~\:y;1]} < 1250538352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : table:(("hello";"world");("goodbye";"cruel");("foobar";"baz")) < 1250538352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : get[table;"hello"] < 1250538352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,"world" < 1250538355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heee fun < 1250538368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can read x[&x[;0]~\:y;1] unaided, which I guess means there's no going back now < 1250538545 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the next "heee fun" thing will be < 1250538565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't it been Haskell -> Factor -> K now? :-P < 1250538569 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I swapping the former two < 1250538607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell I learned longer ago < 1250538614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have liked pretty much continually since < 1250538621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :factor i dabbled with just a bit < 1250538628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forth has been the most recent one < 1250538635 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going mostly by how much you've been hyping something here < 1250538639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1250538643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not hyping k < 1250538645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just awesome. < 1250538661 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had the discussion about the meaning of "to hype" before, I'm not going to reiterate :-P < 1250538668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has more appeal than the ones I've actually hyped, since I can actually make stuff with it in a few lines < 1250538671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: err, no we haven't < 1250538673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i reacll < 1250538674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*recall < 1250538698 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, we have < 1250538706 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd grep it from the logs if I weren't booted into Windows < 1250538963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that this web site will close down on December 18, 1999." < 1250538976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is that on a current website? < 1250538987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not updated, but it's there. < 1250539000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet it's been on every todo list since. < 1250539018 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/prechelt/phonecode/) < 1250539099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I suppose you know that ais523 can't use google :P < 1250539123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't even want to visit the page, just to know that it existed < 1250539143 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1250539163 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe in pressing Alt+D,Ctrl+C,Alt+Tab,Ctrl+V,Enter,Alt+Tab to ten other people typing something into google < 1250539322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referencing the fact that ais523 refuses to google things and when presented with a URL usually asks the linker to summarise it for em. < 1250539348 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he refuses to Google as well? < 1250539410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, whenever he asks a trivial question and I say "you could just google that in half the time and bother less people" he refuses. < 1250539504 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I consider getting information from people more reliable than getting it from computers < 1250539521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is despite the fact that when I answer such questions I almost always use google) < 1250539536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the human touch of the nickname next to it, isn't it. < 1250539550 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I assumed people were answering from personal knowledge < 1250539556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I usually do < 1250539567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, if I look it up on the Internet, I already know which site/page to look on < 1250539590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know half of the things you ask about, so of course I google them < 1250539611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and find an answer in a few seconds, vs the ~30 seconds it takes from you asking to me rewording and sending an answer from google. < 1250540102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the reason i hate googling and reading linked pages so much is that they take so long to open < 1250540108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have a crappy connection < 1250540127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: disable all css! < 1250540131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and images. < 1250540144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and javascript. < 1250540147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and flash. < 1250540148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to make that slow. even on dialup. < 1250540149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean of course that's not my rational reason to hate googling, since it's still pretty *fast*, it's just annoying < 1250540161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want things to be instant < 1250540168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250540170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do ↑ :P < 1250540184 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttt < 1250540187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1250540318 0 :oklokok!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1250540348 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of interest, if i disable css, how will the browser inform the server about that? < 1250540355 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1250540357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: err < 1250540360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just won't load css files < 1250540361 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could just not load it. < 1250540362 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1250540366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's some inline in the page it will just ignore them < 1250540372 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot people usually separate them :P < 1250540388 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i even know how to inline it < 1250540425 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if they were usually inlined, then obviously disabling wouldn't help < 1250540473 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1250540490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: it would slightly < 1250540493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since rendering time would be quicker < 1250540495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp for complex css < 1250540498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the box model stuff < 1250540571 0 :Sneezle!n=marten@dyndsl-095-033-024-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1250540572 0 :Sneezle!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1250540786 0 :Sneezle!n=marten@dyndsl-095-033-024-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1250540825 0 :Sneezle!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250540851 0 :Sneezle!n=marten@dyndsl-095-033-024-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1250540873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1250541118 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250541133 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250541168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250541262 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-121-185.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250541401 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250541478 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, music radio is terrible. < 1250541512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1250541516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is exactly one station I can bear listening to. The local NPR syndicate. < 1250541521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Not syndicate. < 1250541524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But local NPR station. < 1250541588 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(listening for emergency weather info) < 1250541608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you guys ever considered living in a country where they don't get emergency weather. < 1250541616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1250541688 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moving is non-trivial. < 1250541696 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when you have *that* as a criteria. < 1250541780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well. I can deal with listening to "Mozart Monday". < 1250541923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if only FM radio didn't suck, quality-wise. < 1250541943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just listen to internet radio. < 1250541981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: Internet not stable. < 1250541987 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, bandwidth cap. < 1250542017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just listen to TCP/IP/FM radio < 1250542071 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCP-over-IP-over-FM :P < 1250542080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1250542086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was my joke. < 1250542463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM-over-IP-over-TCP < 1250542504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-over-FM < 1250542524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-over-AM < 1250542883 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM-over-AM??? >_O < 1250542913 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1250542920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250542925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work! < 1250542934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. We send an audio waveform over AM, and modulate the frequency of that. < 1250542963 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's them combined, "over" would imply an asymmetric thingie < 1250542981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nonono < 1250542984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just send FM data over AM < 1250542989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll just come in slower < 1250542992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll have to buffer it < 1250542993 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess i'm only saying that because i was just about to say the exact same thing < 1250543006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1250543013 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Does not work that way. < 1250543017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FM and AM are analog. < 1250543019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ff < 1250543020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1250543024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god yall pedants < 1250543031 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FM-over-AM would give you a very low information rate < 1250543050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point! < 1250543055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, only half what you'd get otherwise in a physically ideal situation < 1250543063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just buffer it :P < 1250543069 0 :Judofyr__!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1250543074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, so you would have an *absurdly* low dynamic range. < 1250543089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just stretch it out < 1250543091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250543124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y'know, music radio is terrible. <-- not in Sweden. We have classical music on P2 < 1250543124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Congrats, you've increased the SNR, but not the dynamic range. < 1250543145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, we have classical on NPR. And that's all there was worth listening to. < 1250543155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, unless they happen to broadcast news in minority languages < 1250543157 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is *good* rock too much to ask for? (yes) < 1250543167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NO SUCH THING < 1250543168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes, since it basically is so rare :P < 1250543170 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rock sucks < 1250543173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : CLASSICAL IS THE ONLY LISTENABLE THING EVERRRRRRRR < 1250543182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ALSO oklokok I THOUGHT YOU LIKED METAL. THAT'S THE SAME AS ROCK < 1250543186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, I like some baroque music too < 1250543194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and music from the romantic period < 1250543197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: same thing < 1250543198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them < 1250543199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, it's not. It's just not shoved on the radio much. < 1250543201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah < 1250543207 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Romantic is better than both. < 1250543208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And rock and metal aren't the same thing too. < 1250543211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, NO! < 1250543215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But let's play by your rules! < 1250543222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classical=baroque=romantic. < 1250543227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all boring things with strings. < 1250543230 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes! /me shoves borodin down your throat < 1250543231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what should I listen to after Kansas's "Magnum Opus". Hmm. < 1250543238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like rock and metal are both noisy things with distorted guitars. < 1250543247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I accepted that they may differ. Months ago < 1250543248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1250543253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"may" < 1250543256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: And they're all soundy things with instruments that make notes < 1250543269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: They're all made of atoms < 1250543272 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: You win an Egobot. < 1250543273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, plasma < 1250543276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all made of quarks < 1250543281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they're all energy < 1250543282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST LIKE TIME < 1250543285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, personally I find it hard to notice the difference. But I accept an expert might notice it. < 1250543287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In conclusion, everything is the same. < 1250543290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "an expert" XD < 1250543291 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: They all ... ARE. < 1250543298 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i don't give an absolute shit about instruments, rock and metal have much less to do with each other than say metal and classical < 1250543301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: But what about things that aren't but might WILL BE. < 1250543304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are all CONCEPTS. < 1250543318 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've probably mentioned my opinions on the matter though < 1250543320 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543320 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543320 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543320 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543320 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543321 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543323 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: nonsense, metal is crude music for the hoi polloi < 1250543327 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've probably mentioned that too < 1250543327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: True. Of course, "rock" has a very, *very* loose definition. < 1250543331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in our ivory tower, classical is the only untouched beautyf < 1250543333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes? I do agree that I'm not a noob on what in Swedish would be called "konstmusik", (english translation: "art music") < 1250543334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*beauty < 1250543338 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, but all of it sucks :P < 1250543357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyone who has ever listened to either rock or metal can easily tell them apart. < 1250543359 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: ... Lies. < 1250543370 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1250543418 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shall listen to the overture from Tommy.
< 1250543424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all concepts suck < 1250543426 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see, rocks are solid structures formed from minerals, whereas metals are elements are alloys which are electrically conductive. < 1250543434 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i conveice as "rock" is the stuff where the only actual melody is in the guitar solo, and the rest is trivial chord progressions, emphasis being on singing < 1250543434 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some rocks contain metals, however! < 1250543438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, let's go for the whole thing. Whoo. < 1250543441 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, conveice.- < 1250543443 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-- < 1250543457 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: You've just defined most popular music throughout time :P < 1250543467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Well, if that's the definition you're going with, yes, it almost *entirely* sucks. < 1250543469 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only s/guitar/lute/ if you go back far enough, and s/lute/fife/ eventually. < 1250543471 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i see no crucial difference between most pop and most rock < 1250543479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from topic "Why call it K", by arthur whitney < 1250543480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[1. ken iverson < 1250543480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. if he didn't like it he could go to L]] < 1250543486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan should sue him. < 1250543494 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "popular music" I don't mean "pop" specifically, I mean "popular music" < 1250543512 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right, metal isn't like that < 1250543515 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and classical istn' < 1250543516 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*isn't < 1250543520 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are the ones i listen to < 1250543527 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some jazz, which isn't in that category either < 1250543527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: by your definition i don't listen to any rock < 1250543548 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my definition might be wider, that's the definition of the kind of rock i dislike < 1250543553 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that makes sense < 1250543564 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel so floody now < 1250543574 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1250543576 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1250543578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should stop liking all music in 4/4 < 1250543580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1250543592 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I listen EXCLUSIVELY to music with prime denominators. < 1250543599 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prime, odd denominators. < 1250543620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only like music in (1/3i)/4*sqrt(2)^(log_pi(e)) < 1250543624 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me ages to get a firm grip over 5/2^n and 7/2^n < 1250543630 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1250543634 0 :Judofyr__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1250543640 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: I said prime DENOMINATORS :P < 1250543645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250543658 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like 11, after that it's just "random amount of beats" < 1250543678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the sig i mentioned would be like :D < 1250543688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Even with 5, it's usually better characterized as "three and two" or "four and one" < 1250543702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, imaginary/ < 1250543704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess nothing < 1250543709 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: well right, i wasn't directly responding to you, but that does sound interesting... wait, actually it means nothing really < 1250543718 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much :P < 1250543744 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/3 would just mean that for some idiot reason you have to write what you ought to write as quarter notes as quarter-note triplets :P < 1250543754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1250543765 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3 3 2 2" is how that one famous song does it < 1250543803 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2..2..5.7.|2..2..0.1. < 1250543811 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mission impossible? well dunno < 1250543892 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kellamknives.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_9_16&products_id=597 WAAAAAAAAAAAANT < 1250543943 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250543960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: isn't mission impossible 3 4 3 3 < 1250543976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh duh duhh, duh duh dah duh, duh duh duhh, dah duh duh < 1250543977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just note that some of my favorite "rock" music is instrumental. < 1250543991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :math rock is fun < 1250543992 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with what melody? < 1250544021 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250544021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melody? Who needs it. < 1250544030 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no no i mean MI < 1250544038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1250544044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i misremembered it. < 1250544045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1250544062 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 3 + 4 + 3 + 3 = 13 < 1250544071 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is impossible < 1250544084 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@ti0056a380-2534.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1250544195 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1250544341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: Okay, 9 minute in and there's been about 30 seconds of lyrics. Is that rock? :P < 1250544506 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over 9 minutes is already way beyond my conception of basic rock < 1250544536 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then Pink Floyd is not rock. < 1250544568 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i associate the name with rock < 1250544577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Dark Side of the Moon", often called the greatest rock album, is not rock. < 1250544580 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i recall i didn't especially care of it < 1250544595 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really, i'm just saying my definition sucks. < 1250544604 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1250544688 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, who cares what genre it is? either you like it or you don't (well, or anything inbetween, really) < 1250544742 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suck at genres, and i agree. i just happen to know i dislike most rock and pop < 1250544770 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i do even like some pop < 1250544797 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance britney spears has many interesting melodies, about which people often disagree with me, for some reason < 1250545298 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1250545373 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays Borodin's Nocturne from String Quartet #2
< 1250545409 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you are a quartet now? < 1250545414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is still playing "Dark Side of the Moon"
< 1250545417 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i guess we'll get a recording of that one song of yours as well < 1250545430 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays AN MP3 OF Borodin's Nocturne from String Quartet #2
< 1250545611 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Egh, this 4544x1280 desktop is taking some getting used to. < 1250545652 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4544 8| < 1250545713 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a perfectly reasonable 1024x1280 (pivot) + 1920x1200 pair, but then we had this 1600x1200 monitor and my wife wants it off the table it used to be on, and I don't want to just throw it away, and ... < 1250545735 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, 1600+1920+1024? < 1250545761 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250545761 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. And 1280 high, though the 80 lowest pixels are only visible on that pivoted monitor. < 1250545763 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1250545812 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could actually fit in another 1600x1200 or 1920x1200 on this desk, I have a 1600x1200 and a 1920x1200 now < 1250545816 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I want to though < 1250545840 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit annoying that the 1600x1200 and the 1920x1200 screens (20" and 24" nominally) have different pixel pitch; .255mm for the 20" one (100dpi) and .283mm or so (90dpi?) on the 24". < 1250545871 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have overlapping windows, that is... I usually don't notice < 1250545901 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, everything looks smaller on this screen; I'm not sure this setup is doing per-screen DPI correctly, since it's that nvidia's "merged as a single framebuffer" thing. < 1250545915 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to keep "visible on all workspaces" windows, like browser+irc on the 1600x1200, and N*work on the 1920x1200 < 1250545950 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have an overridden dpi value anyway, the defaults keep getting me insanely huge fonts < 1250546003 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My standard 8pt DejaVu Sans Mono is a bit on the small side on the 20" screen, especially since it's further away. < 1250546063 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xdpyinfo reports "screen #0: 3520x1200 pixels (961x321 millimeters), 93x95 dots per inch". < 1250546117 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's just a sum of the widths, which is making the DPI value non-rectangular, since it's max(height1, height2) for the physical height. < 1250546133 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ... *exactly* the pixel size, millimeter size and dpi as my setup < 1250546139 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*non-square < 1250546183 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Non-rectangular would be more interesting, though. < 1250546198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-euclidean DPI, for the Lovecraft fans. < 1250546214 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexagon < 1250546234 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexagonal actually makes some kind of sense < 1250546273 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, it would be very cool to have hexagonal windows on a hexagonal screen < 1250546291 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1250546294 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg i want < 1250546301 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hexagonal windows! < 1250546306 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1250546307 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like one of those stupid sci-fi movies. < 1250546308 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1250546309 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1250546311 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1250546337 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: *cool sci-fi movies < 1250546354 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey seriously, where can i get one of those < 1250546366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1250546378 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1250546777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1250546863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:46] fizzie: Egh, this 4544x1280 desktop is taking some getting used to. < 1250546865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck < 1250546865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want < 1250546884 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted too, until i heard about hexagons < 1250546908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: how about polygon displays < 1250546925 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which you mean what < 1250547007 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c249DBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1250547044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: instead of hexagon pixels, arbitrary polygon pixels < 1250547214 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not that interested in hexagon pixels, actually < 1250547221 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more the hexagon gui < 1250547228 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be hot < 1250547290 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit tricky in that the 1600x1200+1920x1200 screens are on the PCI-E card, while the pivoted screen is on the on-motherboard Radeon; if I select "init PCI-E first" in bios, the on-chip graphics aren't visible at all, so I have to use the on-board graphics as the "primary" device, and therefore the linux text console ends up on the 90 degrees rotated monitor. < 1250547308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A framebuffer console could be rotated, but the text one doesn't know about things like that. < 1250547334 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiddling in a working xorg.conf made my neck hurt already. < 1250547371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can I just come over to wherever those screens are and like, use them? < 1250547377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll stay out of the way, i promise < 1250547419 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how that would work. I could take you a photo, though compared to some of the billion-monitor setups seen in the interwebs this really isn't all that fancy. < 1250547435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, instead of you being there using the screens < 1250547437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be < 1250547501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250547548 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I would, you know, notice. < 1250547605 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250547637 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, enabling the onboard display added an audio device to the system. < 1250547649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Radeon X1200 Series Audio Controller", it's used for the HDMI audio whatever. < 1250547723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could use another computer? < 1250547752 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will be interesting to see if this thing even supports twinview-for-two-monitors + xinerama-for-a-third, since twinview does some sort of fake-xinerama-info thing. < 1250547789 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why were you reading about goodstein's theorem < 1250547810 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just out of curiosity < 1250547820 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250547834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklokok: john tromp's website linked to it < 1250547979 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250548132 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250548160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1250548286 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mi co'a sipna .i co'o rodo" < 1250548307 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(EE) RADEONHD(1): RHDMCSetupFBLocation: Cannot setup MC: not idle!!!" Well, that's not good, whatever it means. < 1250548434 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1250548797 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1250548899 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And with the three-xinerama-screens variant it just goes "Screen 2 deleted because of no matching config section" and only uses two of the monitors. < 1250550001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0507/29/912sh07.jpg / this isn't a phone, it's a tv < 1250550059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/624/ < 1250550062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Github for lesbians! < 1250550892 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1250553324 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to make xkcdsuckssucks.blogspot.com :P < 1250553344 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait it already exists X-D < 1250553354 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of date though :P < 1250553425 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's owned by the same guy as xkcdsucks.blogspot.com P < 1250553426 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:P