< 1251504005 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just one of the meanings < 1251504027 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :books just keep piling up and they never finish :< < 1251504050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the 64 meanings of chinese "(y)i" have nothing on that one < 1251504220 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251504837 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha: "scrollkeeper: Depends: rarian-compat but it is not going to be installed". "rarian-compat: Conflicts: scrollkeeper". < 1251504963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's a neat loop < 1251504972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the depends/conflicts on particular versions? < 1251504991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loops like that are often used to force two things to be updated simultaneously, by depending on the new version and conflicting on all the old ones < 1251505001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if versions aren't specified, that's really quite failful < 1251505019 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would show the versions if they were conflict/depends on version. < 1251505199 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the worst FAIL I have seen with package management. IIRC, once there was package that was broken enough to make a mess out of package database (it required repair afterwards). < 1251505260 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually the package itself didn't mess it, but the installation failed in way that made dpkg mess up the package database. < 1251505826 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251505885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: beware that IKEA tables may explode. http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1374585.ece < 1251505899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessir < 1251506017 0 :labo!n=labo@87-136-85-95.dynamic.stcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251506419 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaa. Now I'll have to live in constant fear of exploding tables. < 1251506438 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :them's the breaks < 1251506477 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least the package deps format is so expressive that wheither deps are satisfiable is NP-complete problem... :-) < 1251506679 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm could that be made PSPACE-complete by considering source-based upgrade paths... < 1251506722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you sometimes had to downgrade in order to compile something before you can upgrade) < 1251506741 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP-hard by ability to transform Sudoku to deps and in NP by checking being easy. And NP-hard + in-NP => NP-complete. < 1251506790 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "sometimes had to downgrade" being essential to make it possibly harder than NP, here < 1251506809 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can those paths blow up exponentially? < 1251506827 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was complicated enough... < 1251506910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have to go back and forth enough. < 1251506937 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not as bad as one game (Enigma): In that game "Is this level possible?" is RE-complete(!). < 1251506976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing completeness tends to do that :) < 1251506984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i assume that would be why) < 1251507032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: which level is that? < 1251507063 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Usually most of level file is Lua code (it can get callbacks that can modify the map and it even initially lays out the map). < 1251507184 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably none of the standard levels. But it isn't difficult to design a level that's only possible if some turing machine halts on empty tape... < 1251507204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: not at all < 1251507209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, levels are written in Lua < 1251507225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has actually written levels for Enigma that will be in the next version < 1251507331 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are no callbacks to Lua code, its still PSPACE-complete (use pushable blocks and switches tied to openclose message to emulate sokoban). < 1251507374 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Maybe not. < 1251507386 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PSPACE-hard definitely) < 1251507432 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the initial level layout might put superpolynomial amount of stuff to level... < 1251507515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends whether you consider the layout size to be the size parameter... < 1251507523 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without callbacks to Lua and initial layout assumed to halt, its definitely recursive. < 1251507551 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input size: Size of Lua code for level. < 1251507561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: with an item-generation switch (requires a callback), you can do a Minsky machine with gradients and actors < 1251507566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and coins going into coinslots < 1251507621 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with callbacks, Lua code can do all kinds of funky stuff... < 1251507643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251507647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a Sudoku level < 1251507678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sudoku is only NP < 1251507737 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written one "more serious" level. Was quite nasty as it essentially involved solving random 16 (easy) or 25 (normal) variable equation over GF(2). < 1251507755 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't send it anywhere. Don't know if I even have it anymore. < 1251507768 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/equation/equation group/ < 1251507774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have posted insanely impossible levels in the past < 1251507803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up my "test of dexterity" on the forums for one that needs incredibly high levels of mouse control, but is easy to work out the path through < 1251508009 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "looks totally impossible but just requires some nasty tricks": Put long horizontal or vertical stretch (tens of blocks) of "space" floor, and put stretches of abyss to its both sides. :-) < 1251508085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a level in the dev version based on that principle, but more complex < 1251508153 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't mean those few readymade levels that have short such stretches (up to something like 5 blocks), I really mean tens of blocks (or even 100+)... < 1251508239 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course no umbrellas, forcefields or similar stuff. < 1251508373 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 block stretch, the window in direction is less than 0.6 degrees... < 1251508445 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other nasty stuff seen: Negative friction. < 1251508456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the nightmare levels < 1251508463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a series of about 5, now < 1251508469 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enigma < 1251508469 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lols < 1251508473 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love oxyd to death < 1251508480 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of the user-made levels for enigma are just silly < 1251508486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed, some are good though < 1251508493 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to sift through them though < 1251508498 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i KNOW all the oxyd levels are good :) < 1251508531 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251508555 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, i was just talking about oxyd in another channel < 1251508975 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1251509868 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251510746 0 :labo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251519135 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@88-148-171-132.co.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251520346 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251520377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fumblse < 1251520379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fumbles < 1251520379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmph < 1251520383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halo! < 1251520412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:49:30 ehird: Our tables are the "Galant" IKEA ones. But you are no longer here! It is a tragedy. < 1251520413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite so < 1251520416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:55:31 wait, ehird was in finland? < 1251520416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251520509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID YOU KNOW: it is 4:35am? < 1251520611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the hardest class of possible decision problems? < 1251520701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like co-re-complete < 1251520937 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1251520952 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mörnin < 1251520953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardest known i mean < 1251520962 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an infinite chain is known < 1251521042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :What about my all insane? http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1251521053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: so I slept ais523's 8pm-4am schedule unintentionally < 1251521054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks < 1251521137 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also class "ALL". < 1251521152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but that doesn't count :P < 1251521157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess I mean a -hard class < 1251521163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, -complete < 1251521173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL-complete :P < 1251521178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: but ALL also includes impossible stuff, yah? < 1251521197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like RE-complete. < 1251521207 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It includes even indescriable stuff. < 1251521242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION descries < 1251521245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I descry a lot. < 1251521390 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE-complete and co-RE-complete are closely related. In RE-complete problems, algos hang on 'no' instances and in co-RE-complete problems, algos hang on 'yes' instances. < 1251521404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1251521415 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardest class where algo that doesn't hang (or abort) is possible is R (Recursive). < 1251521438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: right, but there's no R-complete :P < 1251521852 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: were you at some sorta helsinki-related university as well? < 1251521873 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should remember :\ < 1251521934 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then above RE and co-RE there is R^RE, above that RE^RE, co-RE^RE, then R^RE^RE, then RE^RE^RE, co-RE^RE^RE, etc... < 1251521970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-RE^n < 1251521975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1251521977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co re n < 1251521978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coren < 1251521979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korean < 1251521981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG < 1251521997 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatRE^RE? < 1251522000 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what's < 1251522022 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A^B A with B oracle? < 1251522030 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursively Enumerable with RE-oracle. < 1251522138 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, was just wondering what ^ meant, i'm rather unfamiliar with the less practical classes < 1251522601 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay manually grepped helsinki out of you < 1251522622 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should probably go do some morning shoppity < 1251522648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll grep the shit out of you!" < 1251524183 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@24.207.48.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251524446 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even CCALL in GASOIL can be implemented using only CALL. I think it will work fine without any conditional commands < 1251524460 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That doesn't mean you should necessarily remove these commands from the GASOIL specification, though) < 1251524535 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you in? < 1251524550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1251524554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're out < 1251524598 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you're out. But obviously you could answer anyways. < 1251524608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm out. < 1251524628 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCALL (SWAP;0;=;48;+;CHR;"ccall";&;CALL) < 1251524637 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0ccall (CALL) 1ccall (DROP) < 1251524639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like uhh, a thing < 1251524645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1251524665 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What looks like what thing? < 1251524738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1251524823 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What "that"? < 1251525030 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this program would work? < 1251525160 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251525264 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251525395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh at zzo... < 1251525408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did that make as little sense to you as it did to me? < 1251525431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be something about one of his five thousand new languages that we're meant to intimately follow the development of. < 1251525446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I suspected as much < 1251525635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm no. < 1251525643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just forked someone else's language, like usual < 1251525651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait no < 1251525653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just suggested a change < 1251525864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is your opinion on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_effect ? < 1251525896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts with a bullet point instead of a summary of the article with the title bolded, and the first letter is lowercase. < 1251525906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Appears to be < 1251525907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozart_effect&diff=prev&oldid=309016115 < 1251525912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mozart_effect&diff=next&oldid=309016115 < 1251525914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vandalism < 1251525920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./ < 1251525949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Anyway, it'll just be intricate music that does it. < 1251525963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reverts the vandalism < 1251525965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you think it might work? < 1251525984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it makes you smarter, I think it ... < 1251525985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analogy time. < 1251525998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yeah, I'm talking about the the short term effect mentioned < 1251525999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't overclock your brain, it just runs an intensive computation. < 1251526003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To disable the power-saving mode. < 1251526007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of thing. < 1251526012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nice analogy < 1251526032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not, because it implies that the Mozart would have a high enough cognitive overhead as to be intensive on your thought processes, thus not actually helping. < 1251526034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's close enough. < 1251526067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, eight to nine points isn't exactly earth-shattering. < 1251526072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, that analogy is probably closer to Schönberg < 1251526082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you're not really a Mozart fan, you'll just get annoyed, defeating the point. < 1251526096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well luckily I'm a Mozart fan :) < 1251526123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classical generally sucks *mauled* < 1251526129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Romantic blah blah) < 1251526154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, music taste differs a lot so meh < 1251526200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also classical differs a lot. Mozart is generally quite "easy" to listen to. Compared to some other classical composers. Such as Kraus for example. < 1251526259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i basically like two kinds of music equally, fucking weird stuff that most people wouldn't call music, and then pretty much straightforward stuff < 1251526262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really a middle ground < 1251526316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and classical would be in that middle ground I guess? < 1251526325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly, yeah < 1251526330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it at least < 1251526356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I wouldn't call classical straight-forward. Nor "fucking weird stuff" (in most cases). < 1251526411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think you would like Schoenberg, at least his middle period < 1251526420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i listened to some the last time you mentioned him < 1251526420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is "fucking weird stuff" < 1251526422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cool < 1251526427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah right < 1251526559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is http://xkcd.com/ broken for you too? < 1251526564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1251526572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it loads? < 1251526577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of just a white page? < 1251526580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251526585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah now it works too here < 1251526587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1251526598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right.. no new one today < 1251526603 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251526623 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't something about one of his five thousand new languages that we're meant to intimately follow the development of. < 1251526646 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a comment about GASOIL (it's also on the talk page) < 1251526668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251526674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1251526773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have listened to some Mozart... just in case ;) < 1251526877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defrag your memory next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW0mBYZm6Uc < 1251526883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: memory defragmentation is painful.) < 1251526891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do not use if pregnant or not pregnant) < 1251526913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm make that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW0mBYZm6Uc&fmt=18 < 1251526917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid mono youtube regular quality < 1251528121 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251528362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That weird javascript/haskell code thing is supercollider < 1251528368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/9f323/1m53s_in_haskell_code_spotted_on_bbc_video/c0ciwqw?context=1 < 1251528559 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251529500 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251529559 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has trouble finding good Befunge 93 examples ... < 1251529571 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I found some, but I am surprised there aren't more < 1251529745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably about 100 b93 programs total < 1251529755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of which 30 are even worth looking at, maybe < 1251529786 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I wrong or doesn't Brainf*** have loads more? < 1251529795 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it just seems that way < 1251529826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251529828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is much more popular. < 1251529832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: look at befunge-98. < 1251529838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bloated, but there are quite a few programs < 1251529839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR INSTANCE < 1251529841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1251529841 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot < 1251529844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— fungot the IRC bot. < 1251529845 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i must ponder this turn of events, it can have a powerful effect on time. ask the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1251529849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, < 1251529858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob_plain/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1251529859 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and you call yourself a frog, and ayla... i will not betray my friends! you are crono. why not? then you should leave quickly! are you leaving! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone ca < 1251529861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be afraid, be very afraid. < 1251529894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :then you should leave quickly! are you leaving! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone ca http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1251529926 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, haven't really looked at Befunge-98 yet, looks odd < 1251529937 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Concurrent Funge (or whatever), lol < 1251529941 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously!! :-) < 1251529974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, uhh, a little bloated < 1251529977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't use cfunge. < 1251529983 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1251529992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because :) < 1251529995 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I can't anyways, doesn't support my preferred platform) < 1251530021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shock! AnMaster makes it work on EVERYTHING that supports the intimate byclauses of the POSIX standard! < 1251530033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE DEDICATES HIS LIFE TO ITS PORTABILITY! There cannot be a single platform it does not support! < 1251530043 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my platform isn't quite 100% POSIX < 1251530044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has an aneurysm < 1251530047 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good but not great < 1251530052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: I'm being sarcastic < 1251530054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Windows? < 1251530061 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251530070 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the readme he claims Cygwin *might* work < 1251530071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a yes then < 1251530075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: It won't. < 1251530090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry, AnMaster will be happy to condescendingly mention how your platform isn't true POSIX. < 1251530091 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, I actually wanted to use DJGPP, but alas ... ;-) < 1251530101 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with every other GNU nerd ... < 1251530121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did you say windows was your *preferred* platform? < 1251530128 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God forbid anybody write anything "portable" that is actually, erm, portable! < 1251530129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't say that means you actually like it :{ < 1251530139 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually like what? cfunge or DJGPP < 1251530140 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251530144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :windows < 1251530151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: heck, I don't bother supporting the heap of windows shitapis, but I don't make a claim to portability, either < 1251530154 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like DOS :-) < 1251530189 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just feels hollow to brag about portability when all you support is "POSIX" (aka, Linux and whatever wants to be as popular as Linux) < 1251530205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it works on SunOS I think < 1251530207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1251530214 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean Solaris? < 1251530217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251530218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunos < 1251530222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the predecessor < 1251530236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1251530237 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1251530251 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should try Minix and see if that works < 1251530288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't try and read the code, by the way; he changed the initialisation of fungespace to use inline ASM with vector operations because the C loop was a few milliseconds shorter < 1251530292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and was identified as a "bottleneck") < 1251530296 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, it doesn't matter, I'm happy with the default BEF.C (B93) interpreter for now < 1251530302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that attitude is applied, uhh, pretty uniformly < 1251530305 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and BTW, what is "109" ? < 1251530314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: AnMaster's pet revision of befunge-98 that nobody needs. < 1251530327 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why not just call it "09" ? :-) < 1251530338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Chris Pressey told him to. < 1251530357 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, huh? < 1251530359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: It clears up a few edge cases everyone agrees on anyway, and turns fingerprints into URIs instead of compact 4-character names, even though that makes all code so much more uglier, and nobody has EVER needed it, and nobody else cares < 1251530366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: He asked Chris Pressey if he could use the name. < 1251530400 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, what, "Befunge09" is trademarked or something? < 1251530408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, chris pressey just made befunge-93. < 1251530415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, -09 would be 1909. < 1251530422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's befunge-{years since 1900}. < 1251530438 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems silly < 1251530445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your mom :P < 1251530447 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the *nix epoch doesn't start until 1970 < 1251530465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a reference to Y2K, ffs. < 1251530472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bunch of sites did "19"+twodigityear. < 1251530478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "'"+twodigityear. < 1251530491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we got sites saying "It's 13 January '100" < 1251530562 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, looking at his vectorization code :-) < 1251530584 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God knows why anybody prefers GNU inline syntax < 1251530602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's ranted about how much intel asm sucks so much < 1251530605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(despite being rebutted) < 1251530606 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and m4 + sh for autoconf), Befunge is *less* obfuscated ;-) < 1251530618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're lucky he isn't here right now, or there's about a 70% chance we would be in one of the channel's favourite pastimes, saying nothing while me and him argue noisily < 1251530667 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced that GCC's -ftree-vectorize even does anything (despite 4.3.x's improvements) 99% of the time < 1251530686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: His optimised build includes a gcc option that does *unsafe* "math optimisations" < 1251530687 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God help us when ymm0 (AVX) becomes available :-( < 1251530695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he once bruteforced a bunch of operations and benchmarked them < 1251530698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, he fuzz-tests it. < 1251530704 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ffast-math ?? or something else? < 1251530710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has unsafe in the name < 1251530711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1251530715 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251530729 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I mean, it's good to experiment, even if a lot of it doesn't pan out < 1251530740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is how he does *everything* < 1251530756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want a befunge-98 interpreter that works well on windows, btw, try CCBI: http://iki.fi/matti.niemenmaa/befunge/ccbi.html < 1251530762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, hmm, that doesn't link to CCBI2 < 1251530764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1251530771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a windows binary of 1 there, so should be painless. < 1251530878 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, how many people program in Concurrent Befunge?? < 1251530895 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people (me included) can't even handle normal concurrent programming :-P < 1251530937 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, multiline C macros ;-) < 1251530955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI also does TRDS, which cfunge never will < 1251530958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRDS lets you travel in time. < 1251530962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'nuff sd < 1251530963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sed < 1251530980 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed? stream editor? also considered obfuscated ;-) < 1251531032 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, ever heard of bfd? (tiny DOS Brainf*** compiler) < 1251531049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1251531050 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/compiler/optimizing &/ < 1251531055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck compilers are a dime a dozen. < 1251531065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: Except < 1251531067 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :written in NASM, tre cool ;-) < 1251531070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take a look at this: http://code.google.com/p/esotope-bfc/ < 1251531073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiles hello world to... < 1251531076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : PUTS("Hello World!"); < 1251531088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(AnMaster may now mention inbetween, which is his own utter direct copy of esotope, despite denying this) < 1251531098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and having, like, 3 more minor optimisations) < 1251531155 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"written in Python", previous link was "written in D", and AnMaster's Cfunge is "written in C99 w/ mmap etc." :-/ < 1251531163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what < 1251531176 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not as portable as I'd like < 1251531177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python is ubiquitous, CCBI has binaries, cfunge sucks < 1251531182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: Seriously? < 1251531182 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251531182 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251531185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name me ONE platform Python doesn't run on. < 1251531190 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251531194 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.5 will be deprecated eventually < 1251531198 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.1 is already out there < 1251531200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.6 < 1251531201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean < 1251531202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no < 1251531204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be maintained for years < 1251531207 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's written in 2.5 < 1251531208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because nobody uses Python 3 < 1251531213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Python 3 doesn't have 3489573498573495 libraries < 1251531215 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1251531215 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while even Scons (I think) still runs on 1.5.2 (or whatever) < 1251531215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: backwards compatible. < 1251531222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, 2to3. < 1251531228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be migrated at any time. < 1251531229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's short anyway. < 1251531278 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wonder why people bother bragging about portability when all they support is Mac OS X 10.5, Windows 2k or newer, Linux 2.6, etc. < 1251531297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, exactly, would you like to be supported < 1251531311 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I mean, it's annoying how things are deprecated that work fine < 1251531351 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just my pet peeve < 1251531365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backwards compatibility is a gigantic part of why today's computing sucks. < 1251531376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm all for dropping the crap < 1251531451 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't get it, they want to drop 2k, XP, 32-bit, etc. < 1251531460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it perfectly well. < 1251531468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit x86 has been around since 2003. < 1251531482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2k was released in 2000; XP was released in 2002. < 1251531486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both suck. < 1251531493 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only 2003 for AMD servers, Intel servers got it in 2004, home users didn't get it (Intel) until 2006 < 1251531517 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel was still selling P4s until then (ugh) < 1251531529 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows, they still might (though I doubt it) < 1251531552 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you know about the P4, I presume (e.g. not everything "new" is better) < 1251531553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they stopped doing pentium 4s in 2008 < 1251531582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, is there actually a reason you use windows? < 1251531587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, apart from masochism... < 1251531599 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMX is deprecated, FPU is deprecated, it's all annoying, everybody wants to kill everything that *they* don't use < 1251531608 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it came installed on the machine < 1251531621 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not exactly super familiar with *nix (e.g. Linux) < 1251531633 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most Linux distros aren't any good < 1251531638 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are very buggy < 1251531651 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or outdated, don't work the ways I want, etc. < 1251531656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu, man. < 1251531675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux hasn't sucked since about 2006, and it's been fine since about 2007. < 1251531681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been great since, eh, 2008 < 1251531685 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their upcoming 9.10 scares me ... too many bleeding edge things < 1251531694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251531696 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potentially will regress a lot in functionality < 1251531699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just new < 1251531702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not buggy < 1251531710 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the alphas are buggy ;-) < 1251531713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit < 1251531724 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't always fix everything before release, so ... < 1251531731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used 9.04? < 1251531736 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251531740 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :briefly < 1251531764 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't even install to a 1 GB flash drive because it's so bloated < 1251531776 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not saying I'm so super surprised, but damn, very annoying < 1251531779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1251531786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like them to recompress every image as a jpeg? < 1251531792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every system sound? < 1251531803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want them to hyper-optimise every application binary they include? < 1251531805 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm perfectly content with needing 30 GB just to rebuild everything (sarcasm) < 1251531815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because normal Ubuntu users rebuild everything. < 1251531835 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "normal" applies to #esoteric ;-) < 1251531849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate people who want everything to run on ancient, crappy stuff; who want people to spend 80% of their work satisfying 20% of people who could easily upgrade < 1251531857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's such a waste of talent < 1251531868 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, no < 1251531875 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect miracles < 1251531892 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when things could easily be fixed and certain people refuse (note I'm not talking about Ubuntu here), then that's annoying < 1251531916 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just don't care, which is more of a problem than anything technical < 1251531923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you do want them to fit the whole Ubuntu desktop inside 1GB, which would take exorbitant amounts of work and maintenance that could be spent doing much more productive things. The end benefit of this is, uhh, you get to avoid paying a few more bucks for a bigger USB drive. < 1251531939 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously I would install to HD, problem solved < 1251531957 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main issue isn't that, it's that they allow you to install to USB but it's more or less useless unless you never install anything ever < 1251531967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1251531983 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not just a "surf and e-mail" person, so I can't say that's enough for me < 1251531995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So buy a bigger USB stick < 1251532002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shock, horror, extra features take extra space < 1251532017 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extra features that I didn't ask for, that aren't needed, that should be easily removed (but probably aren't) < 1251532036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's nice, let's just tailor Ubuntu to exactly what you want < 1251532042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[07:39] Rugxulo: […] everybody wants to kill everything that *they* don't use < 1251532044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1251532050 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no (although there are a lot of Ubuntu forks, too many IMHO) < 1251532075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can safely say that no, most Ubuntu features are useful. < 1251532084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's very well polished. < 1251532136 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not perfect < 1251532145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shocking < 1251532146 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the idea that it does everything right isn't fair < 1251532158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why did you just invent that idea < 1251532166 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither Windows nor Ubuntu can cater to everybody, but sometimes they don't even try to do simple things < 1251532179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can assert things too... < 1251532220 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, dare I ask, you really expect 100% of home users (and OEMs) to only get 64-bit 4 GB RAM Ubuntu 9.10 computers from now on? I doubt it ... < 1251532223 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251532263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could tally up the number of strawman fallacies you've used so far but I'm kinda hoping to spend the rest of the day doing things < 1251532293 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it works for you, fine < 1251532644 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and BTW, there really should be a Befunge interpreter in Elisp :-) < 1251532666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1251532684 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, must've missed that it already exists < 1251532695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why < 1251532748 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? 'cause it's cool :-) < 1251532772 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is in Emacs now (ERC) < 1251532799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1251532800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1251532878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, not another one of the "let's run a kernel, a scheduler, hardware drivers, ..., and then a woefully bad OS with only one hacky UI element and no task switching" people < 1251533120 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1251533233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a windows, emacs and backwards compatibility lover < 1251533239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: could i, like, stab you? < 1251533241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1251533288 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could ... except the knife has been deprecated, use phase pistols (coming soon to a store near you) < 1251533540 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BefungeMode < 1251533556 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to comment out all the hscroll stuff, but otherwise it works great! :-) < 1251533678 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251533698 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-236-168-96.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1251534061 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, thanks for the (mostly) nice chat ;-) < 1251534085 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0:1g:"$"-!#@_,1+" "00p < 1251534086 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye!$ < 1251534092 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251534198 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251534203 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251535477 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-142.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251536643 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251537377 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: CCBI2 isn't out yet in any form, which is why the page doesn't link to it < 1251537385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but it's better :P < 1251537395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some ways, yes < 1251537404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other ways, it doesn't work at all :-P < 1251538170 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251538200 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1251538201 0 :MigoMipo_!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-142.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251538232 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MigoMipo < 1251540984 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@client-81-107-207-130.glfd.adsl.virgin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251541374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi adam_d < 1251541393 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Not that there is anything wrong with that" < 1251541418 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251541547 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1251541836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1251541836 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1251541866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def stockintro ul (Who are you, where did you come from, how many goats have you sacrificed, etc? Also, http://esolangs.org/.) < 1251541866 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1251541870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adam_d: < 1251541871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^stockintro < 1251541874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1251541877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def stockintro ul (Who are you, where did you come from, how many goats have you sacrificed, etc? Also, http://esolangs.org/.)S < 1251541877 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1251541879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adam_d: < 1251541881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^stockintro < 1251541881 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are you, where did you come from, how many goats have you sacrificed, etc? Also, http://esolangs.org/. < 1251541890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got tired of saying that all the time... < 1251543881 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251544773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nostalgia about Ubuntu 5.10. That's a new one for me... < 1251544783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'specially as I never got it working properly < 1251545143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Python is ubiquitous, CCBI has binaries, cfunge sucks <-- an opinion most people in here doesn't seem to share... < 1251545162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was half-wondering how long it'd take for you to come and defend cfunge < 1251545184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sure; if I was in a mood to debunk stupid arguments I'd mention that a lot of people like Windows too < 1251545189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I won't < 1251545207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I just got home < 1251545272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even windows ME? < 1251545284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say that? < 1251545286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why did you ask? < 1251545289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1251545318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you meant "windows (except windows ME)" there? < 1251545338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't aware that Windows referred to every single OS < 1251545347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :version of it < 1251545354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok. < 1251545355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whenever anyone says "I use Windows" in future, I will commend them on their uber multiboot system < 1251545361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ask them how they got windows 1.0 running. < 1251545430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah that would be tricky.... what with several versions of windows wanting to be on the first harddrive, and wanting to be on the primary partition marked as bootable < 1251545448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why restrict ourselves chronologically backwards? < 1251545453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask them what Windows 3000 is like. < 1251545470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about alternate universes? I don't see why we have to stay still in the fifth dimension, either. < 1251545501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, by year 3000 I doubt microsoft still exists... ;P < 1251545519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nintendo was founded in 1889 < 1251545528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly they did card games and whorehouses and stuff before games < 1251545536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but that is a difference of roughly 100 years, not 1000 years < 1251545546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough < 1251545576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a difference by an order of magnitude I think? < 1251545583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wait, they did hotels-in-which-to-have-sex, not necessarily hotels-where-you-can-get-sex. < 1251545594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is clearly an important part of Nintendo's past businesses and must be clarified. < 1251545612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "bring your own whore"? < 1251545618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1251545691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the Arc forum a bit for the lulz < 1251545714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, http://dabuttonfactory.com:8080/ is pretty cool. < 1251545724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... basically tryruby for arc :P < 1251545763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dabuttonfactory.com:8080/evsrv.arc And the code doesn't look shit, like all other Arc code out there. < 1251545776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This person is clearly some sort of mutant that can make the worst of languages work well. < 1251545878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, they traded in not being fucking weird and defensive for that power: < 1251545880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[If you have chosen another username, OK, no problem (but I can't guess). If you've not tried it, your choice, but then I'll parse your request as "Gosh palsecam is such a moron, an REPL on the browser has no future[1], performance/privacy issue, blahblahblah, but I'll be glad to steal his code for another more useful purpose that I'll not communicate about". < 1251545880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am, at least I hope, certainly wrong on my analysis, but sorry, that's how I read your message. And obviously, I don't like to be taken for a moron. And obviously, I don't like this kind of "stealing".]] < 1251545888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in response to someone kindly asking for the code) < 1251545990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Arc's REPL works differently from its eval. < 1251546111 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251546149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeez, reading this guy's comments is painful < 1251546158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that topic is depressingly close to my mood today < 1251546163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He swears an awful lot and he seems to be permanently... way too bothered about stuff < 1251546165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat < 1251546178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sword alone can't stop, you know. < 1251546183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fungot said it) < 1251546184 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out?! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's the kind! i've decided to stay with these humans! you're a traitor! you're not our king! but, we are far outnumbered! < 1251546196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251546197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251546217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1251546217 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1251546225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrono trigger < 1251546225 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1251546225 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1251546279 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you that mood is greatly connected to the fact the neigbor has been using a chainsaw for hours... < 1251546371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...on your mom! < 1251546375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : something about deadness < 1251546378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : even cruder joke < 1251546400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oerjan something swatter -----### < 1251546401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am crude like oil. < 1251546472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kind that is not allowed at beaches < 1251546484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahar! < 1251546486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1251546494 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define ahar < 1251546496 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ahar is a town and the capital of Ahar County in East Azarbaijan provience, Iran. The town is known on the market place for its Ahar rugs. \ [22]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahar \ < 1251546496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it offenheimer < 1251546502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1251546511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :798uijkmarket place for its ahar rugs < 1251546533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"umm yeah, you flew, so what" < 1251546540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's not like you're a pizza or anything" < 1251546553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frisbizza! < 1251546559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frisbutt < 1251546563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i want one of them < 1251546576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a butt that you can fris < 1251546579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very fris butt < 1251546604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oxymorons can't help it. they were born with a lack of oxygen < 1251546611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BADUM TISH! < 1251546655 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're retired < 1251546665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i never started < 1251546667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1251546713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ALL-complete :P < 1251546726 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt you can be ALL-complete, for cardinality reasons < 1251546746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's buddhists who are one with everyone < 1251546751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't have cardinals < 1251546755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh you're stupid < 1251546764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would have to find _one_ problem to which all others could be reduced - but then you could immediately use diagonalization to produce a counterexample, i think < 1251546795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a joke, you know < 1251546799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/cardinality/diagonalization/ then < 1251546971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : co-RE^n < 1251546980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that n could be an infinite ordinal, as well < 1251547005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant co-RE^n as meaning "equivalent to co-{RE^}*int for any integer" < 1251547017 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course < 1251547050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a small step to use ordinals. see brainhype/banana scheme < 1251547058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251547064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mine is more... sensical < 1251547073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it doesn't require making any new concepts < 1251547081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take the union of co-re, co-re^re, etc < 1251547119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, co-re^omega. um wait. < 1251547129 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should that be ^^ , or something < 1251547177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i've seen ^^ mixed with oracle notation) < 1251547244 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-29.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251547256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but ... < 1251547257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1251547260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematically equivalent in the result < 1251547262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the definition < 1251547268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have to define exactly what that means for ^omega < 1251547331 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but it's the obvious way if you know ordinals < 1251547378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: see, I'd expect co-re^omega to be something like "RE with an RE^omega oracle" < 1251547385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo co-re^n expresses it better < 1251547388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's never infinite n < 1251547390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just arbitrary finite < 1251547395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it isn't < 1251547399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case ^omega is better, ofc < 1251547410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co- just means switching yes and no results < 1251547422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1251547439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ignore the co- < 1251547448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the context of the above ↑ < 1251547451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: except that still ought to be re^^n < 1251547456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1251547460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using fuzzy notation < 1251547467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but is it arbitrary-finite n or infinite n? < 1251547473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there two classes, one with each < 1251547489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hm, co-RE^^omega has a self-oracle < 1251547498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and co-RE^^n would presumably just have a lesser-than-self oracle < 1251547614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right? < 1251547615 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not an oracle < 1251547622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom's an oracle < 1251547628 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is not an oracle < 1251547631 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one is an oracle < 1251547639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what she said < 1251547644 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what she said < 1251547647 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's not an oracle < 1251547649 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251547651 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to go now < 1251547653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is < 1251547657 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just came here to tell you that < 1251547660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i found a magic < 1251547661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's magical < 1251547662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1251547670 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me mores? < 1251547722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1251547724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: chores < 1251547729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic smores < 1251547732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :were the magic < 1251547733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was tragic < 1251547737 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the oracle flew < 1251547759 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you found the magic of insane poetry < 1251547826 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! -> < 1251547833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yes!!!!!!!! < 1251547897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: Anyway, it'll just be intricate music that does it. <-- i'll refuse to believe metal could do it, no matter how intricate. (see chainsaw above.) < 1251547921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you wait until oklofok left before saying that :D < 1251547929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251547936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, technically yes < 1251548118 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically i didn't leave yet < 1251548132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: be angry at oerjan for dissing metal. < 1251548137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is an oklofok thing to do < 1251548142 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see context, i've been skipping on logreading < 1251548233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my food tasting funny today < 1251548244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's counteracting your bad puns < 1251548250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1251548254 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with oerjan that metal probably doesn't make you smarter, kinda like mozart doesn't either. < 1251548255 0 :sebbu3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251548270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: there's STUDIES! < 1251548273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay one study. < 1251548274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251548296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd use all my up-to-nine extra IQ points to dislike the mozart < 1251548298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was mainly referring to the obvious fact that metal turns your brain into mush, although possibly only temporarily. < 1251548298 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :us mathematicians don't believe in studies < 1251548308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't think that's true. < 1251548318 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true for ME < 1251548329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well metaphorically, not physically. < 1251548333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there is a rather obvious solution to that < 1251548382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i _have_ occasionally been considering buying something ear plugs < 1251548392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was meaning more "stop listening to it" < 1251548395 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you don't have to *start* with norwegian black metal < 1251548397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, was that chainsaw thing i joke < 1251548399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a joke < 1251548400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1251548401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chainsaws < 1251548403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made out of metal? < 1251548404 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though you're norwegian < 1251548405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that a pun < 1251548409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it a pun joke oerjan < 1251548427 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the chainsaw was real. fortunately it's stopped. for now. < 1251548434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the pun oerjan < 1251548444 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but metal does have the same effect on me, more or less < 1251548453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but was the joke that chainsaws < 1251548455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are made out of metal < 1251548456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1251548459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1251548462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1251548467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had said yes, this would have been said: < 1251548468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will kill you oerjan. < 1251548470 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also burzum should be called white metal, since it's mostly white noise < 1251548479 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the songs i have < 1251548481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will do that anyway. it's destiny. < 1251548482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY FAVOURITE METAL IS MERZBOW < 1251548492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: not metal < 1251548514 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe in merzbow < 1251548534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: lol i wikipedia'd burzum and the guy murdered his bandmate and then burned down a bunch of churches :D < 1251548545 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the story is awesome :D < 1251548557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a nice guy! < 1251548576 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just got out of jail this year < 1251548580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i read < 1251548587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"© & ® Varg Vikernes. Do not reproduce, respect the copyrights." < 1251548599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're expecting me to follow a trivial, bad law mister < 1251548605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see a bit of hypocrisy here :P < 1251548615 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if not, he'll kill you. < 1251548621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[A Scandinavian, for instance, has no good reasons to emotionally react negatively to "nazism"]] < 1251548631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: You can only disagree with a philosophy if it has a specific aim against you < 1251548635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1251548647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He then goes on to talk about how nazis are cool or something) < 1251548657 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251548671 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that they OCCUPIED our country, or something < 1251548690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251548695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's saying that the occupiers were cool dudes < 1251548705 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also i like stealing clothes from orphans, then filming cp when they're naked" < 1251548711 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251548726 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: that an actual quote? < 1251548733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, oerjan. < 1251548735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously. < 1251548735 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251548741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec < 1251548745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: oerjan is... AnMaster < 1251548748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251548749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1251548757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omöjligt! < 1251548844 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really............... -> < 1251548889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For each devastated graveyard, one heathen grave is avenged, for each ten churches burnt to ashes, one heathen hof is avenged, for each ten priests or freemasons assassinated, one heathen is avenged" < 1251548902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might sound weird but i think this guy is kind of a dick < 1251548956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the arrest of Vikernes, the police found 150kg explosives and 3,000 rounds of ammunition in Vikernes' home.[28] According to Encyclopedia of White Power Vikernes has stated that these explosives were "intended to blow up Blitz House, the radical leftist and anarchist enclave in Oslo",[16] a plan which "was reportedly on the verge of execution"[16] and only prevented by Vikernes' arrest. < 1251548958 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Admittedly they did card games and whorehouses and stuff before games <-- i was so delighted when i found out the first part was true, but i can find nothing about whorehouses < 1251548970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's a nazi who kills people who disagree with him in any wya < 1251548971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*way < 1251548975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: read on < 1251548982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"love hotels"; not whorehouses though < 1251548994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklofok: oerjan is... AnMaster <-- why would you think so? < 1251549003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:25] oklofok: "also i like stealing clothes from orphans, then filming cp when they're naked" < 1251549003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1251549004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:25] oklofok: -> < 1251549004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:25] oerjan: oklofok: that an actual quote? < 1251549030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it sounds more like something you would say IMO < 1251549037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you would add an s < 1251549046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, where < 1251549059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "that an" <-- guess < 1251549075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1251549077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1251549079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 's I guess < 1251549080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't even make sense < 1251549089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're trying to assign "using 's or not after that" to a person < 1251549098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: linguistic patterns vary at such a low level < 1251549103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well not ' then. I get confused by that < 1251549134 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i could never be AnMaster < 1251549134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway... adding "is" there would have worked too < 1251549142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lol [[Aarseth was a practitioner of theistic Satanism and also a proponent of violence, totalitarianism and state terrorism]] < 1251549146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, don't lie < 1251549147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not even if i tried < 1251549148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess he didn't like it when it happened to him < 1251549198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Satanism comes from religious Christianity, and there it shall stay. I'm a religious person and I will fight those who misuse His name. People are not supposed to believe in themselves and be individualists. They are supposed to OBEY, to be the SLAVES of religion." < 1251549201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :these guys are hilarious < 1251549219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he liked stalin and mao :D < 1251549227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1251549229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hated marx < 1251549263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for instance, he was an ardent proponent of sodomy, rape and murder simply because they were evil acts" < 1251549267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actual quote) < 1251549394 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc vikernes' opinion is killing is a nice thing to do to another person... then again probably he just says anything that sounds gloomy and evil < 1251549404 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not very consistent with killing enemies < 1251549412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: he's totally jesus < 1251549414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"love thy enemy" < 1251549438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: so is this where you got your desire to kill someone :D < 1251549467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In October 2003, Vikernes failed to return to his low-security prison in Tønsberg, Norway after having been granted a short leave. He was found riding in a stolen Volvo car, which, according to the media, contained an unloaded AG3 automatic rifle, a handgun, numerous large knives, a gas mask, camouflage clothing, a laptop, a compass, a Global Positioning System, various maps and a fake passport (it is thought that Vikernes came to be in possession of this < 1251549468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equipment by means of a military barracks). For this thirteen months were added to his sentence, and he was then moved to a maximum-security prison in Trondheim. < 1251549479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's dumb :D < 1251549483 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have such a desire, i just put it on my todo list! < 1251549493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251549533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how this guy and the guy he killed are both guys who think killing and rape and violence and fascism are awesome < 1251549546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the killer hates communists and religion < 1251549562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the killee loves distorted communism and (distorted) religion < 1251549576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm violent in a superior way to you RAAAAARGH" < 1251549629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ascribes to the theory that bad people come in pairs, who hate each other < 1251549643 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i knew evil dudes < 1251549644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I loooooooove AnMaster! < 1251549655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does not want to be bad < 1251549656 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst is this hardcore metal guy who eats insects < 1251549670 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read "ehird does not want to go to bed" < 1251549675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i don't think that's ... worse than killing someone :P < 1251549678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's true. < 1251549693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never claimed I hated ehird... < 1251549708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wait, are you staying up hideously late now? < 1251549720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how late is hideously < 1251549723 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: worst i know, i don't know vikernes, or anyone like him < 1251549730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: ah < 1251549738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i think that's probably the safest option. < 1251549748 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but assuming not on his kill list, might be a fun guy to talk to < 1251549763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people like that generally aren't very intellectual < 1251549764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Vikernes also states that although he is a racist, he hates no-one and that "hatred is irrational"]] < 1251549772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well? < 1251549782 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming not a total retard, i imagine the insane killers are usually either very bright, or very dumb < 1251549786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i take that as a yes *evil cackle* < 1251549792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tell me! < 1251549816 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than 24 hours since you last slept, perhaps < 1251549819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i think he just starts with severely fucked up, contradictory axioms and works from there, perhaps even logically, though most likely mainly based on emotions < 1251549827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: usually, yes < 1251549839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: most common schedule has been sleeping from 1pm to about 7pm < 1251549845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thereabouts, at least < 1251549847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite variabl < 1251549848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1251549853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: today I slept from 8pm to 4am < 1251549858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waking up from that was weird < 1251549870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's night!" "but i've slept eight hours" "umm it's pitch black" "am i meant to turn the light on and get up?" < 1251549876 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right you're on one of those weird sleep thingies < 1251549880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251549883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not intentionally < 1251549889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cba to do that atm < 1251549906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right now I'm on the schedule where i don't sleep until i feel too tired to do stuff alright. < 1251549915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then sleep for however long i sleep < 1251549919 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251549935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite nice < 1251549952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though due to me starting it off with a night where i slept at 6am, then progressing to 8am, it's skewed so that I'm mainly awake at night < 1251549963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though due to waking _up_ at 4am today, that might change a bit < 1251549998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see you are on the verge of turning into me, then < 1251550004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how do you sleep < 1251550009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor poor ehird < 1251550015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1251550016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm enjoying it < 1251550022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much better than before < 1251550049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[There are also two different reviews of this book available that are allegedly written by Varg Vikernes, one on www.burzum.org and one on www.burzum.com. Whereas the review on www.burzum.com is only mildly critical and states "The book is pretty much objective"[57], the review on www.burzum.org states: [bad stuff]]] < 1251550051 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as oerjan owns me at category theory, i'd swap souls with him anytime < 1251550072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: but there is no such thing! < 1251550134 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sleep is constantly shifting forwards, always. how much varies unpredictably per day, 0-2 hours maybe except when i make an effort to stay up extra long < 1251550148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so it wraps around all the time? :D < 1251550151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251550151 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: doesn't mean "swapping souls" isn't a perfectly well-defined thing < 1251550175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that just means that your schedule is defined by how long you stay up, instead of by when you sleep < 1251550182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add that to the fact that your body is used to sleeping N hours and voila < 1251550203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: well < 1251550217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: if you connected your brain to oerjan's body, then added some personality traits of his < 1251550217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1251550226 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well-defined as time-travel, movie rules apply. < 1251550231 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1251550232 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the gist < 1251550234 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya -> < 1251550235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'd just be oklofok with an annoyingly crippled body and some weird personality traits < 1251550251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no offence to oerjan, but his body is obviously crippled due to being older than oklofok, pretty much by definition) < 1251550256 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1251550256 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550257 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550258 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö> < 1251550259 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHEE < 1251550264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARROWS < 1251550265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1251550265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3> < 1251550270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251550315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh i'll certainly admit to not being in the best shape < 1251550386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you were, tho < 1251550390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------=> < 1251550394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1251550399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i fly in that rocket :> < 1251550404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i fly around in space :> < 1251550408 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, if you manage to climb in < 1251550413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay :> < 1251550425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------=>:> < 1251550428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------=>:> < 1251550430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :------------------------=>:> < 1251550432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------------------------------=>:> < 1251550433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------------------------------=>:> < 1251550435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :------------------------------------------------=>:> < 1251550438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------------------------------------------------------=>:> < 1251550439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------------------------------------------------------=>:> < 1251550440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------------------------------------------------------=>:> < 1251550447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said _in_, not on top. i hope you have no troubles with thin air < 1251550453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251550455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you broke my chain < 1251550458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp gotta fly back up again < 1251550474 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just trying to prevent you leaving the atmosphere unprotected < 1251550489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already had < 1251550502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1251550513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec. < 1251550584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--------=>:> < 1251550587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric 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PRIVMSG #esoteric :| =>:> < 1251550682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| =>:> < 1251550684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| =>:> < 1251550688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| >=>:> < 1251550692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|>=>:> klunk < 1251550696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=>:> klunk < 1251550700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssh < 1251550704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=>:> < 1251550706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=> < 1251550708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :> < 1251550709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :> < 1251550710 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a moment i realized maybe you _are_ inside, but in that case you're not having a very good time < 1251550711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : :> < 1251550712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1251550718 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251550730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from this perspective my eyes are on the ground :> < 1251550735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, you interrupted it. < 1251550736 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251550739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have to do it all again. < 1251550743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were safely landed < 1251550748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251550749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1251550750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was in the air. < 1251550754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: >:D < 1251550758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry I won't :P < 1251550764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was good wasn't it? < 1251550767 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1251550773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I especially like how I waited a little bit after the two peaks < 1251550780 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of hyperbolic < 1251550784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251550795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I like how it somehow slowed down as it started to land < 1251550800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an anti-gravity landing platform < 1251550856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, not my platform < 1251550866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't ask you :P < 1251550969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i was about to say wrt your body, < 1251550988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't worry, I'll make sure I code you in as the first to get a mech body in the seed AI < 1251551003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to stand in line with everyone else to evaporate in the clouds though < 1251551005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will only go so far < 1251551080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"evaporate in the clouds"? i think i may not be up to date on these technical AI eschatology terms < 1251551127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "relocate your mind to multiple redundant datacenters, dump any sort of body, and spend your days zooming around the cosmos looking at nebulas like in sci-fi films" < 1251551131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251551160 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that would be boring eventually < 1251551168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I may be joking! < 1251551177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although apart from the last bit that's the best outcome imo < 1251551178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably why they started the earth simulation anyway < 1251551184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251551194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc i'd like to be in a physical body of some sort, but you can do that via virtual reality < 1251551199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, as a bonus, tweakable < 1251551208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess it'd be fine to connect to a physical body every once in a while < 1251551244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could roam the cosmos possessing primitive aliens < 1251551312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that would be very moral. < 1251551338 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moral gets boring eventually < 1251551393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I say this as someone who is currently possessing a 14 year old boy 23127 "Milky Way"/418871 "Sol System"/1 "Sol"/3 "Terra" homo sapiens sapiens body < 1251551403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally < 1251552329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! in an
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  1. < 1251552335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a bunch of
      s < 1251552337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never knew :\ < 1251552341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ ignore those lines < 1251552715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the world must not know this secret < 1251553839 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251554470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, a weblog entry with the slug /atom causes it to display an atom feed of that month < 1251554473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to the weblog software < 1251554484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little bit of fail there < 1251554504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since the weblog uses post summaries in the feed < 1251554508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus you can't read the post < 1251555070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy fuck. < 1251555084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steve Ditko, co-creator and original artist of Spider-Man. < 1251555084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dinosaurgardens.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/avenging-world.pdf < 1251555086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A comic by him. < 1251555088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is... wow. < 1251555091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objectivist to the max. < 1251555093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking... crazy. < 1251555101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even read it, it's all over the place with vitrol. < 1251555116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's uh, pretty freaky. < 1251555122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*It's, < 1251555136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They're nigh-unreadable. I mean, I guess someone relishing re-reading a two-hundred page monologue might see some fun in them but, jesus, I still haven't gotten through a single one. " < 1251555139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like ayn rand to me < 1251555185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol - "With great power comes great responsibility to be a total self-interested jerk." < 1251555789 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1251556744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1251557074 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251557092 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251557757 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251558106 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251558282 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-142.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251558623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251558930 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251559037 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251559564 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to spend more than a second on a square when i'm reading a comic < 1251559575 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess that's mostly because i hate comics though < 1251559581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251559586 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-142.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251559634 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i have to read a tex willer comic tonight < 1251560111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: tex will, er, mock this terrible joke < 1251560551 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1251560556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1251560693 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃☃" < 1251560719 0 :adam_d_!n=Adam@client-81-107-207-130.glfd.adsl.virgin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251560926 0 :adam_d__!n=Adam@client-81-107-207-130.glfd.adsl.virgin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251560944 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1251560947 0 :adam_d__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :adam_d < 1251561394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251561726 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251561952 0 :adam_d_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251562349 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251562459 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1251562787 0 :oklofog!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251562802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofog: fog you, you fokking oklofo[kg] < 1251563518 0 :oklofog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251563526 0 :oklofog!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251563801 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251563972 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-142.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251565611 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251565969 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-11-142.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251566130 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-85-199.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251566264 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-77-180.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251566314 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1251566951 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251567090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Monster.Dildo.Cocks.XXX.DVDrip.XviD-GraceNotes" —reddit < 1251567103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOT SOMETHING TO TELL US Gracenotes??? < 1251567145 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people love my nickname, they use it for all their porn warez distributin' groups, I tell them no, but they insist < 1251567300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251567843 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Monster dildo cocks" < 1251567844 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1251567858 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? < 1251567863 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are there monster dildos and cocks? < 1251567869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1251567890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are monster dildo cocks. < 1251567909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, < 1251567938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1251567939 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :78| ??? Are the cocks actually just implanted dildos? Or are there monster dildos and cocks? Or are both the dildos and cocks monster? < 1251567946 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfffft :P < 1251567978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THINGS AND HE DESIRES ANSWERS < 1251567985 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251567986 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64| I spent the last minute or so killing myself repeatedly < 1251567993 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251567994 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :75|* ehird disables javascript < 1251568004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251568005 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22|IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. < 1251568048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251568048 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :67| Reality isn't a part of physics < 1251568074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe one more! < 1251568075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251568076 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :75|* ehird disables javascript < 1251568078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251568080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251568081 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :49| is there a problem with it being carbonized :D yes: carbonized coffee bean is known more commonly as "charcoal" < 1251568183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaand one more < 1251568185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1251568186 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8| GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. < 1251568287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, looks like another ehird topic < 1251568315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Fungot topic, actually < 1251568327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the cut-off < 1251568329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I set it, yes < 1251568346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently < 1251568472 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251569097 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251569677 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what Deewiant meant when e said that reality isn't a part of physics. < 1251570061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"15-inch OLED HDTV" < 1251570064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afhkdjsfkfg <3 < 1251570364 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251572651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[on anarchism] "So you advocate transferring power from democratically elected government-run armies to private armies?" < 1251572651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swing and a miss < 1251574122 0 :oklofog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251575146 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-52-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251575225 0 :sebbu3!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-45-17.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251575526 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251575632 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what 2*3+4 in J evaluates to < 1251575676 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1251575684 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 14 < 1251575700 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-83-172.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251575704 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251576099 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251576185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: That's why we have logs, so that you can grep < 1251576349 0 :sebbu3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251577625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION enters the 5th dimension with J < 1251577923 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-4.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251577962 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251578263 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251578265 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@88-148-171-132.co.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251578832 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251583607 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what semantics would result in that being 14. < 1251583641 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1251583662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: not semantics, precedence < 1251583698 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume J inherits from APL the collect-all-operators from the right principle < 1251583710 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I missed the obvious. < 1251583726 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The obvious way that could equal 14 is 2*(3+4). < 1251583741 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-obvious way that could equal 14, which is what I saw, is 2+(3*4). < 1251583759 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a sweet obfuscation for an esolang < 1251583768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nice coincidence < 1251583791 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before evaluating any expression, reverse the order of operators in it < 1251583793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1251583878 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take the Fourier transform. < 1251584433 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How TF is something that searches lists [or arrays or n-rank thingamabobies] related to something that makes a list of numbers??? < 1251584508 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1251584536 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :context? < 1251584545 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For non-J programmers: i. is what you'd call a function. It can accept one or two arguments. If it's given one argument, it makes a list of numbers from 0 to its argument. If given two arguments, it finds where the second argument is listed in the first < 1251584557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: I didn't use J terminology) < 1251584558 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251584566 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should they be related? < 1251584582 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're both i. < 1251584601 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why put unrelated things together in the same verb (the J term for function) < 1251584616 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because not everything divides neatly into pairs < 1251584633 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i guess you could've done 4 i. 7 = 4 5 6 7 or something < 1251584643 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's at least somewhat useful < 1251584665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 + i. 7 works just as well < 1251584673 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that, so it's not needed < 1251584697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 4 + i. 3 ? < 1251584698 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not 4 + i. 3? < 1251584712 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: boo! < 1251584717 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oob < 1251584746 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, right < 1251584757 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is half asleep. Not a good way to learn J < 1251584758 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given the correction, it's far less nice < 1251584775 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than 4 i. 7 < 1251585385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely hopes that posting an AskReddit style question in /r/programming is ok < 1251585569 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i _think_ those are usually done as self posts, although only from what i've observed < 1251585594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and since i have never registered, i don't know how to do it anyhow) < 1251586640 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are forks easier to understand than hooks? < 1251586707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's rather difficult to eat with hooks, in general < 1251587457 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251589268 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251589557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION re-shapes oerjan  < 1251589762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch! < 1251589870 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexing is complicated < 1251589884 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< 2 2 $ oerjan < 1251589936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does not recognize the language < 1251589986 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J < 1251589998 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reshapes you into a 2x2 array, and puts you in a box < 1251590161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1251590346 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1251590361 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'-' when the mem is 0 is undefined in BF, right?