< 1251763877 0 :int-e!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1251764250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You almost certainly have a virus and should reinstall your operating system." < 1251764250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Blaming that guy's link is a lot easier than reinstalling my OS." < 1251764250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So is jacking off in the USB port, but if there is a problem, neither of those things is going to fix it." < 1251764251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— reddit < 1251764929 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1251765409 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1251765745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251765916 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251767102 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251767351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10594014 THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD NEVER SHOUT ON THE INTERNET < 1251767961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible people avoid caps entirely, you know < 1251768122 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251768341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'LL POP A CAPITAL LETTER IN YO ASS < 1251768356 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1251768404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef struct i{struct i*n;}i;i*h;push(i*i){i->n=h;h=i;}i*pop(){i*t;t=h;h=h->n;return t;} < 1251768409 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are you referring to the story of the woman who was fired for using capital letters? < 1251768418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: see logs. < 1251768452 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1251768458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, in reply to oerjan < 1251768460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indirectly, yes. < 1251768503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: stop commenting on reddit, you make my brain's look-at-reddit-names-and-pattern-match engine run < 1251768508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's computationally intensive < 1251768512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and takes ages to quit < 1251768552 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like reddit's javascript < 1251768594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would be IE's fault. < 1251768598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: stop using IE < 1251768604 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1251768644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

< 1251768645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ THIS IS YOUR FAULT :- < 1251768645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251768649 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've mostly given up expanding loading comment subthreads with more than a handful of comments. although that is not _necessarily_ a bad thing. < 1251768667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-expanding < 1251768726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs oerjan repeatedly with the Ancient Staff of http://www.google.com/chrome
< 1251768736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM STABBING YOU < 1251768741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1251768755 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my splanch < 1251768790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR SPLANCH WILL HURT UNTIL YOU STOP EVERY PERSON WHO HAS EVER MADE ANYTHING FOR THE WEB HURTING < 1251768798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO ANYONE WHO HAS EVER READ ABOUT IE'S RENDERING MODEL < 1251768818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splanch IS AN ODD THING TO HURT < 1251768836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, it's actually an iwc reference < 1251768855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS THINKING THAT "SPLANCH" WAS A VEGETABLE IN NORWEIGAN OR SOMETHING < 1251768861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*NORWEGIAN < 1251768869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW DO YOU WANT TO STOP HURTING OR NOT < 1251768871 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. norwegian uses very little c's. < 1251768877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*YOUR SPLANCH TO STOP HURTING < 1251768891 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as h's at the end of words < 1251768930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spinach is spinat, for example < 1251768966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP TALKING YOU CANNOT TALK COHERENTLY BECAUSE I AM STABBING YOU < 1251768987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i will not be of the at in the future < 1251769001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coherentlywise < 1251769022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT I AM STABBING YOU WITH? IT IS THE ANCIENT STAFF OF http://www.google.com/chrome < 1251769052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i summon GregorR to help me, as he is against all things chrome < 1251769074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://firefox.com/ < 1251769082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOBODY IS AGAINST CUTE RED PANDAS < 1251769084 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH MY SKIN < 1251769099 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/chromates.jpg LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO ME < 1251769109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: sorry, rub some firefox/red panda all over you < 1251769114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll help < 1251769120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why did I click that having seen it before? < 1251769141 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1251769145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't click, remembering having been wise enough not to click it before < 1251769158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT CLICKING http://firefox.com/ IS NEVER A BAD IDEA! < 1251769174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMM < 1251769192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF YOU USE IE, SOME OF GREGOR'S JAVASCRIPT FUNTIMES LIKE THE CPU EMULATORS MIGHT NOT WORK!!! < 1251769197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURELY THAT WOULD CONVINCE ANYWONE < 1251769198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251769199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYONE, ALSO < 1251769206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall have to hunt down and kill ehird in a painful way for his horrible strong opinions, now < 1251769223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kindly suggest that you try alternate browsers such as Google Chrome or Firefox! < 1251769239 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Konqueror or Epiphany? < 1251769258 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or zzo's browser, Conqueror (I think) < 1251769264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: konqueror is shit < 1251769273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonkeror? < 1251769274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not really available for windows < 1251769279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :epiphany is only available for Gnome < 1251769279 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1251769283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uses WebKit anyway < 1251769297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'd still consider those alternate browsers < 1251769298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vonkeror is zzo's awful, awful modification of Conkeror, which is based on firefox but uses keyboard shortcuts < 1251769300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of buttons < 1251769305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you fail at reading. < 1251769376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my task, clearly, is to keep using awful solutions so as to help with ehird's anger therapy < 1251769379 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "such as" does not imply that the options you provided are the only options < 1251769407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes; in addition, "alternate browsers" does not necessarily mean all alternate browsers. < 1251771666 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1251771923 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-099-248.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1251771952 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251772001 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1251772681 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251773196 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251773601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Researchers developing OLEDs as cheap as newspapers?" < 1251773603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1251773605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My heart warms. < 1251774212 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251774662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oklofok. < 1251774667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you heard about JESUS? < 1251774694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean madonna's boyfriend? < 1251774708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is EVERYONE's boyfriend < 1251774711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he LOVES EVERYONE < 1251774722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm won't madonna be pissed about that < 1251774750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he's very polyamorous. < 1251774916 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i must have imagined it, wikipedia's article on madonna does not contain the word "jesus" < 1251774949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because the article for EVERY person would say Jesus! < 1251774977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1251775000 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's briefly mentioned on the talk page though < 1251775607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly realizes what the oldest files on his computer are likely to be
< 1251775678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2009/jan/03/meme/ < 1251775682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's a script for that" < 1251775752 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1251775763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ei scriptum est < 1251775795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ei app that < 1251775797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1251775798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ei app est < 1251775803 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1251775803 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1251775803 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1251775803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can manually exclude OS files < 1251775806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple should do all their ads in latin < 1251775808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd be so much more fun < 1251775819 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would the OS files likely be when the system was reformatted and set up again? < 1251775827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Maybe. < 1251775828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just try it. < 1251775833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop asking questions. :P < 1251775848 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try it tomorrow. The computer in question is currently off < 1251775903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know what "I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC." is in Latin? :P < 1251775909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better would be if I found my disc that had favorites from before "chat" Crash < 1251775937 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("chat" Crash == when I lost all information from my computer because I installed some chat server software, and my dad got paranoid and forced me to reformat) < 1251775964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not have your own computer or sth < 1251775964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac sum, et PC ? < 1251775972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's two separate lines < 1251775973 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this was from when I was much younger < 1251775974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different people < 1251775976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah < 1251775980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it happened in 2002-2003 < 1251776034 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps earlier. I do believe there was definately a crash in 2002-2003. I learned of the FRC before the Chat Crash, and I was interested in the FRC in 2003 < 1251776049 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assumes there is some special conjunction that should be used instead of "et"
< 1251776053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251776062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would "Mac sum." "Et PC." preserve the spirit of the "and" from the original, though? < 1251776073 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were no Crashes after August 2003. Knowing the oldest file would push the boundary earlier. < 1251776085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1251776089 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ary// < 1251776098 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't really have a feel for latin _style_ < 1251776104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You suck :P < 1251776154 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac sum et pc < 1251776162 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251776162 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251776162 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251776164 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be "i am a pc and a mac" surely < 1251776183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: :D < 1251776191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorbeo :( < 1251776253 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have two disconnected HDs sitting around. I wonder what's on them. < 1251776341 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.. seem to have misplaced one of them < 1251776373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sorbeo? :( < 1251776398 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found it < 1251776432 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sorbeo#Latin < 1251776455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh exploitable! < 1251776478 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1251776490 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one of these bookmarks dates to around 2003 < 1251776490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, the obvious? < 1251776546 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, when did I first enter #esoteric ? < 1251776575 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the olden days, when the world was new < 1251776629 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I have a bookmark labelled "NetHack 3.4.1" < 1251776637 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it must date from before 3.4.2 was released < 1251776664 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..31 Aug 2003 < 1251776698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Aren't you quite recent here < 1251776707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think so < 1251776711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know when < 1251776713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, like, after 2006 < 1251776721 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess sometime after 2005 < 1251776721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I was here when you first came < 1251776777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kinda wish I was a little less stupid around 2002-2003, because cool stuff seems to have happened then. < 1251776783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just my weird sense of nostalgia talking, though. < 1251776909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox release dates don't help pinpoint an earlier bound < 1251777373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe that this site is still paying for hosting/domain name/etc < 1251777376 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You need IE 4.0 or higher to play it." < 1251777380 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.1000ad.net/thegame/ < 1251777385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :� Copyright Ader Software 2000-2002 < 1251777652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.1000ad.net/ is still sort of updated, so. < 1251777658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(last updated 2007, although updates are very sparse) < 1251777672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Domains cost like $10/yr, pair with autorenew and say, using it for email... < 1251780060 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251780500 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit what is this /r/DoesAnybodyElse thing and how do they manage to spy on me < 1251780508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251780513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spy on you how < 1251780525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan:? < 1251780528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oerjan: ? < 1251780533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just came up on the default list today < 1251780548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's automatic. < 1251780550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that was a joke < 1251780553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed < 1251780555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checkin < 1251780559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*checkin', even < 1251780564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :important to be precise about these things < 1251780585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do at least 3 of the top 10 < 1251780790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/DoesAnybodyElse/comments/9g0zj/dae_sometimes_stare_into_their_own_eyes_in_the/ ;; agh I do this < 1251780797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it literally looks like a demon is coming out < 1251780806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some horrible black thing will appear next to me < 1251780902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DAE have a life that is better than prison or internment camps but you still wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy?" < 1251780903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sob sob cut cut. < 1251781025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, and yes... < 1251781046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wut? < 1251781063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a note not to stare into the mirror
< 1251781084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which were those no/yeses to < 1251781088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, try it! < 1251781089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251781124 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've only listed two... < 1251781139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but which do they correspond to, i mean i don't see you as the "woe is me" type :P < 1251781172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a very fluctuating mood < 1251781229 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i find it completely impossible to accept that suffering exists in the universe _at all_ < 1251781236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you appear to be alive and browse reddit and IRC about, uhh, random stuff < 1251781245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretty cushy life, relatively :P < 1251781259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, impossible to accept = tolerate or... believe < 1251781266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tolerate < 1251781267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because err it's pretty easy to come up with a counterexample :P < 1251781277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if we killed all the unhappy people? < 1251781279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would work < 1251781310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blows a gasket
< 1251781319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: THIS CHANNEL IS PG-13 < 1251781345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define gasket < 1251781346 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* seal consisting of a ring for packing pistons or sealing a pipe joint \ [23]wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn \ * In sailing, gaskets are lengths of rope or fabric used to hold a stowed sail in place. In modern use, the term is usually restricted to square-rigged ships, the equivalent items on yachts being < 1251781380 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define blow a gasket < 1251781381 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* To become very angry or upset \ [13]en.wiktionary.org/wiki/blow_a_gasket \ < 1251781385 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we have it, a gasket is a seal < 1251781393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :greenpeace will be very upset < 1251781396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone probably shut a VR online game Sgeo played in 2003 < 1251781399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down < 1251781408 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1251781472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that failed. Good night, all < 1251781477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wut? < 1251781497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was hoping that the person saying that The Guild S3 would be released midnight PDT was wrong < 1251781498 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E wasn't < 1251781506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh noooooooooooooooooo? < 1251781553 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251781704 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1251782360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1251782669 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251783614 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251783909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you're redundant < 1251784070 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... couldn't disagree more < 1251784079 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIVERSITY STARTS < 1251784083 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN 13 MINUTES :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784085 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784087 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784089 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::dDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784091 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::dDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784093 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::dDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784095 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251784099 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a good thing. < 1251784100 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251784115 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1251784124 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you want to bask in the awesomeness too? < 1251784237 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such a useless piece of pie < 1251784238 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1251784364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: you're a bitch. < 1251784390 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1251784394 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :total unfolded bitch < 1251784398 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't find my moneys :< < 1251784455 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmmmmm automata theory, i'll probably start touching myself during the lecture < 1251784895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: moneys are touching < 1251784902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what you must not know < 1251785630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodle doodle i'm a poodle < 1251786192 0 :ehirdium!n=Adium@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251786200 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo. < 1251786217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1251786231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdium: hi < 1251786243 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, that works well. < 1251786249 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1251786250 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1251786254 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, right < 1251786256 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh yes < 1251786256 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1251786270 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Received CTCP 'DCC CHAT chat 1077849409 10079' (to ehirdium) from EgoBot" < 1251786271 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close, so close. < 1251786370 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo -rn "\r\nQUIT\r\n" < 1251786371 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rn "\r\nQUIT\r\n" < 1251786373 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo -rn "\r\nQUIT\r\n" < 1251786375 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rn "\r\nQUIT\r\n" < 1251786377 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1251786381 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Uhh, no, not going to work. < 1251786387 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1251786390 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got EgoBot to quit before < 1251786391 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh echo a; echo b < 1251786391 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1251786396 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo a; echo b < 1251786397 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b < 1251786402 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!run echo a; echo b < 1251786404 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rest goes in dcc) < 1251786407 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1251786409 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo a; echo b < 1251786409 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1251786410 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sh echo -rn "\r\nQUIT\r\n" < 1251786411 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1251786416 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, coppro < 1251786419 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it handles multiple lines < 1251786426 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1251786427 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a fucking capability-based security wrapper in a chroot < 1251786431 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think it's not gonna handle lines? < 1251786432 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1251786442 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdium: you never know < 1251786469 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhoo, I conclude adium is not quite an acceptable IRC client yet < 1251786470 0 :ehirdium!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251786555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a key on my keyboard that is labelled "Ha! You referenced xkcd! You are clearly a funny, culturally relevant and intelligent person." < 1251786563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It types itself, just like the letter keys. I find it is about as useful. < 1251786870 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251786928 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251787045 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boo hiss* Bash 3.2 needed for Bashfunge :-P < 1251787070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, bash 4 is out. < 1251787078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not retire to your cave where everything works with ancient software? < 1251787081 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, I know ... what's your point? ;-) < 1251787088 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 2002 is so ancient (sarcasm) < 1251787098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes it is, in computing. < 1251787124 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ 98? standard ... C99? standard < 1251787139 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, its teh old !! < 1251787146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wherein Rugxulo compares the standards of huge languages with releases of a shell program. < 1251787166 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very very complicated shell program < 1251787180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, bash is very very complicated < 1251787185 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very < 1251787193 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you looked at its guts? ugh ... < 1251787216 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was RMS involved? < 1251787245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RMS' eaten toe-pickings were! < 1251787256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*RMS's. Trailing apostrophes are dumbtarded. < 1251787262 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, just tried Bashfunge on Cygwin, seems to work okay < 1251787270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick! Somebody break it! < 1251787310 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if RMS was involved in coding bash, I have no need to look at it to know how awful it is < 1251787310 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, anything implementing Befunge 93 is cool :-) < 1251787322 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, AFAIK, RMS never worked on Bash ;-) < 1251787327 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is not pretty code < 1251787343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (its (just_like (lisp), when_you (code_it_like_this))) < 1251787344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : { < 1251787346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rejoice (); < 1251787347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1251787374 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how Bash-centric Bashfunge is (e.g. would it work on other shells) < 1251787385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1251787391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe zsh, but that's quite unlikely. < 1251787400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(zsh is awesome, btw.) < 1251787426 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in ksh? < 1251787434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, almost certainly not. < 1251787483 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I thought you said "109" was the latest ... then why does Bashfunge say "Befunge08" ?? < 1251787504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because: < 1251787514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) 109 isn't released yet and nobody else supports it, and < 1251787520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) bashfunge is old. 08 is the old name of 108 and 109. < 1251787548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bashfunge is also too slow to do anything in, it takes something like half an hour to run Mycology. < 1251787558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run fungot on it, that'll be a laugh. < 1251787559 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i shall help also. we must now carry out his sentence. hold your horses! i want to dance! ladeedadeeda! got some spending so much of his time doing research on lavos. but you have it...determination, i mean... < 1251787566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can dance, fungot. < 1251787567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can dance. < 1251787574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1251787574 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1251787576 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too slow? even on Core i7? (older is obsolete, upgrade now!!!) < 1251787610 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody writing in Bash should expect a small performance decrease ;-) < 1251787614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly, a shiny new CPU with like 20% performance improvements does not alleviate the crippling slowness of bash and bashfunge. < 1251787614 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still cool, though < 1251787629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: also, if you do have a core i7, enjoy your non-ECC supporting platform. < 1251787651 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECC es fur wamps, I dun't neid et < 1251787664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flips some bits in Rugxulo's memory
< 1251787834 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-2-19.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251787930 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251788360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1251788540 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, Language-Befunge seems to hate Cygwin (or my install, at least) :-P < 1251788691 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, know of any Brainf*** interpreters in Befunge? < 1251788728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bashfuck, for one. < 1251788730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather trivial. < 1251788733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can say fuck. < 1251788751 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for unlawful carnal knowledge ... hooray for me ;-) < 1251788771 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sings, "Home grown, down home ..."
< 1251788865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at his Miscellaneous Pile of Overly-Specific Certificates, finds no Certificate of Liking Terrible Music, leaves disappointed
< 1251788920 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a Befunge98 one, wanted a 93 one :-/ < 1251788941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you said in Befunge. < 1251788948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: Befunge93 is not TC. < 1251788970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It cannot even do the 30,000 baseline cells that a lot of programs need and the original interpreter used. < 1251788979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1251788997 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one good enough for "Hello world" and similarly simple stuff should be doable < 1251789009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do it < 1251789219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, hi < 1251789269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, was this the person you lied about cfunge a few days ago? < 1251789273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge to* < 1251789286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, for some definition of "lie" equal to "things I disagree with because I wrote it". < 1251789294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, sure, evil commie lies, AnMaster. < 1251789331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, but you are actually wrong. cfunge is currently the fastest one. And several people in here use it. fizzie for example for fungot < 1251789332 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: cyrus! are you leaving! it's cyrus! run away for now! < 1251789338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that irc bot :P < 1251789342 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, one chat and ehird already hates me ;-) < 1251789343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm, wrong about what? < 1251789351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I ever deny that cfunge is the fastest interpreter? < 1251789351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, ah :) < 1251789356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I ever deny that several people in here hate it? < 1251789363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rugxulo: Did I ever say that I hate you?) < 1251789366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, s/hate/love/ < 1251789380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, s/hate/use/ < 1251789380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the line "several people in here" < 1251789386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251789392 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251789409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I never claimed any of those things false, so uhh, I don't see what the hell you're trying to say other than "stop saying cfunge is bad, meanie". < 1251789421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, anyway, about cygwin: I don't have windows handy to test with. But cygwin is your best bet for cfunge if you need to use it on windows < 1251789446 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you said (and I'm almost quoting verbatim), "Eww, you use old software, Emacs, and Windows ... can I stab you?" < 1251789463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that is not "almost verbatim" < 1251789466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yep, I was totally serious about stabbing you < 1251789469 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm sure you meant that in a loving way ;-) < 1251789477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to actually be wherever you are and stab you so that you bleed. < 1251789478 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lovey-dovey kind of stab, y'know < 1251789480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And die. That is what I think < 1251789484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, I remember that basic things like getting environment variables didn't just work as expected under windows :/ < 1251789493 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cygwin? < 1251789501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, well that is worth a try as I said < 1251789549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I highly doubt cfunge will work on cygwin. < 1251789574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, if it lacks mmap() you could rewrite the file loading part to use getc() or something. I use mmap() because it is faster (I profiled) and easier as well < 1251789636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the build system would need a prod to not error out when mmap() is missing as well, but that would be as trivial as commenting out a line or two in CMakeLists.txt < 1251789675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, but I guess cygwin *does* have mmap() right? < 1251789716 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1251789729 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, found another "Brainf*** in Befunge" < 1251789757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, why are you stuck on windows though? Hardware issues? < 1251789831 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta ... none of the *nixes I tried really worked too well (not that Windows is perfect, though) < 1251789832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he likes it < 1251789840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least that's what he said yesterday < 1251789841 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I like DOS, I tolerate Windows < 1251789847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1251789848 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I said :-) < 1251789852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1251789857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1251789859 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big difference :-P < 1251789887 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hmmm, that Brainf***-in-Befunge may need "arbitrary bignums in the stack") < 1251789900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, so you want no memory protection, a pain to use memory above 640K, ...? < 1251789926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what Brainf*** requires < 1251789932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know that Brainfuck normally uses 8-bit cells < 1251789934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an unbounded tape < 1251789951 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, DPMI -> DJGPP = works! < 1251789963 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251789964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :93: 8 bit playfield, 32 bit stack cells iirc < 1251789966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Funge-98 has provisions for bignum cells, and even then only awkwardly. < 1251789968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it the reverse? < 1251789978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 requires same size < 1251789990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes there is one bignum one at least < 1251790001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just mentioned that because you wrote it. < 1251790002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251790007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try my efunge, needs erlang installed. Should probably work under windows. But I never tried it < 1251790039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aand predictable as clockwork < 1251790041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, DPMI? < 1251790064 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251790073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, that was a question: "what is that"? < 1251790084 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is DPMI? < 1251790084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/"?/?"/ < 1251790085 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the protected-mode-in-DOS thing. < 1251790090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1251790110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it something you load with that config.sys thingy? < 1251790114 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, standard stuff, works in OS/2 2+, Win 3+, DOS w/ extender, etc. < 1251790126 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CWSDPMI ring a bell? < 1251790139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, nop < 1251790142 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quake 1 used it) < 1251790155 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or DOS/4GW, which I think is what Watcom's compilers used. < 1251790155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used mac before I changed to xp for a few years, then to linux < 1251790167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have like no contact ever with dos world ;P < 1251790194 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfenstein 3D = 16-bit Borland C < 1251790201 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doom 1 & 2 = 32-bit Watcom C < 1251790207 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quake 1 = 32-bit DJGPP C < 1251790208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251790245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, not portable between compilers even? ;P < 1251790245 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever heard of Ardi's Executor (Mac emulator)? < 1251790253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, nop < 1251790256 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DPMI isn't related to compilers, it's an API < 1251790292 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/dpmi/ < 1251790326 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://clio.rice.edu/ < 1251790372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would have been more interesting if I had any nostalgia about DOS ;P < 1251790382 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, typically most (non-DJGPP) apps were never written for DPMI "only", they expected the unofficial, undocumented 32-bit int 21h extensions < 1251790390 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(partially supported by some Watcom extenders) < 1251790403 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I know, if you never were familiar with DOS, it wouldn't matter < 1251790411 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just trust me, it works, Quake 1 sold fine ;-) < 1251790429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, ok. Tell me when you have a 64-bit extender for it ;P < 1251790440 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251790441 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOSEMU works on x86-64, that's as close as you can get < 1251790444 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for now) < 1251790451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1251790460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, I meant 64-bit DPMI < 1251790464 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runs *almost* native speed (due to no V86 mode has to emulate a very small portion) < 1251790468 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know ... < 1251790477 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't say that whole skedaddle with a real-mode operating system and protected-mode applications was exactly *elegant*, no matter how well it might've worked. < 1251790486 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DJGPP is extremely elegant < 1251790492 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251790498 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worse than using GCC on Linux < 1251790504 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very stable < 1251790507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, you mean fork() { errno = ENOTIMPLEMENTED; return; } < 1251790508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251790512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1251790516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251790524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which will break at least parts of cfunge btw) < 1251790527 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork is not implemented because most DOSes (and compatibles) don't support it < 1251790530 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.91.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251790537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, exactly < 1251790541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if my IRC client didn't crash < 1251790547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I was going to say < 1251790547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, mine doesn < 1251790550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't* < 1251790550 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EMX/RSX (whole other extender + DPMI) emulates fork, though, but DJGPP is miles better in most other ways < 1251790561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: DJGPP isn't elegant at all... < 1251790565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Thank you, I care deeply < 1251790569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about your IRC client < 1251790581 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251790588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I use two ones: xchat and ERC < 1251790598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither crash < 1251790600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm on ERC < 1251790601 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novell (DR-)DOS 7 supports multitasking, but nobody ever bothered writing anything for it < 1251790606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster! Tell me more about all your IRC clients! < 1251790610 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is also on ERC
< 1251790613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1251790618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so interested in what IRC client you use and how you use it. Tell me a story about your IRC client! < 1251790630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I'd like you to do that every time I mention my IRC client. Oh wait, you do... < 1251790636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you haven't slept tonight right? < 1251790638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go do so < 1251790681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What on earth has my absolute boredom with you continually mentioning your and how awesome it is whenever mine does something displeasing got to do with that? < 1251790689 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, I don't expect it to matter, but DJGPP does have latest ports of VIM, Emacs, GCC (though not Bash) < 1251790689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's irritating. Stop it. < 1251790699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, heh.... < 1251790711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in your dreams < 1251790715 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once upon a time, in an IRC client far, far away..." < 1251790730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and you get so very anti-social when you didn't sleep < 1251790741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I like about my IRC client: It has a feature that lets people stop talk to me without having to have it solely in dreams. < 1251790754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually, you just like coming up with excuses whenever I dislike you. < 1251790759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, my clients have /ignore too < 1251790765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember when you implied that me using Linux instead of OS X made me nicer... < 1251790768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I would say the reverse < 1251790776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and yes it did < 1251790788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the effect wore off if you are using linux now < 1251790796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but back then it did < 1251790805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ladies 'n gents, AnMaster thinks what OS I am currently using to talk on IRC is directly related to whether I'm kind or not. < 1251790811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please welcome this master of self-delusion. < 1251790822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251790849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get quite.... self-delusional... yourself when you didn't sleep < 1251790873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, *ignores ehird* < 1251790886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you just directly stated that and now you're denying it? < 1251790890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1251790941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps he's just using "I don't like what you're saying" as a catch-all disproof of everything I've said, regardless of whether he said it first or not... The mind boggles. < 1251791064 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind boggles or boggles the mind? ^_^ < 1251791080 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if you can write a Boggle clone in Befunge ... heh j/k
< 1251791113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, < 1251791113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1251791114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251791116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1251791125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard failure < 1251791130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1251791137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I tried to write was "Boggle"? < 1251791147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow my space key locked up < 1251791155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other /ignores AnMaster has executed recently: /ignore Google < 1251791277 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, so you use Linux and/or OS X? < 1251791288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD < 1251791297 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which Linux? < 1251791320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, Gentoo, Arch and currently also Ubuntu on laptop (because there I need things to just work) < 1251791325 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and BTW, have you heard of shasm/osimplay? ;-) < 1251791337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shasm/osimplay <-- no clue what that is < 1251791357 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that's a no :-) < 1251791365 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Forth-ish x86 assembler written in Bash) < 1251791365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, tell me what it is < 1251791368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251791375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, there was some bashforth I remember < 1251791407 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251791758 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, have you programmed in Forth before? < 1251791787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, no, I haven't really had time to learn it, and currently I don't expect to have it soon either, what with just having started at university < 1251791884 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17, 18? < 1251791914 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might explain the lack of DOS nostalgia ;-) < 1251791952 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION regales everyone about ye olden days of GCC 2.7.2.1
< 1251791954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, 19 < 1251791965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, and I used redhat 5.0 ;P < 1251791970 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like I'm super old either, only just turned 30 ;-) < 1251791999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1251792000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1251792000 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in Befunge, 3:9*+ < 1251792004 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1251792020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ (* 9 3) 3) < 1251792061 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some would just say 65*. < 1251792076 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :touche < 1251792080 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what would Deewiant's constant-builder say? < 1251792081 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bad < 1251792086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ factor 30 < 1251792086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30: 2 3 5 < 1251792117 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A funge-98 programmer would probably say 3a*. < 1251792124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well yes < 1251792137 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, from the viewpoint of the channel, 30 sounds quite ancient. < 1251792149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about oerjan? < 1251792151 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that, like, a bit before death? < 1251792174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't oerjan old? < 1251792174 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea about oerjan's age, I assume it is considerable. < 1251792196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is like 38. < 1251792206 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen the stars born and so on. < 1251792212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nescience is 39 iirc, or at least I asked if he was like 40 and he said something along the lines of almost < 1251792224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251792225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are you suggesting he _is_ a great old one? < 1251792233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aren't you like 30-something, I remember someoneorother saying that, though they could just be bullshitting me < 1251792249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[08:03] ehird: nescience is 39 iirc, or at least I asked if he was like 40 and he said something along the lines of almost < 1251792250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ i meant mycroftiv, not nescience < 1251792252 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I guess it depends on your rounding mode, 26 nowadays. < 1251792256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell happened to wxmaxima after updating it.... < 1251792272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're like a bit before a bit before death! < 1251792276 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never. update. anything. < 1251792294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, interface completely changed < 1251792307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An interface being redefined? < 1251792308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also of course I keep things up-to-date. It is painless usually on linux < 1251792309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*redesigned < 1251792310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unheard of. < 1251792311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike on windows < 1251792317 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite painless < 1251792338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: what he's trying to say is "You use Windows and I disapprove of this" < 1251792341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, well on gentoo it is just tedious. But often more painless than binary distros. :P < 1251792349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :facts don't really enter into it < 1251792431 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all the same hardware, so in theory any OS can do anything < 1251792433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the line editing history feature is gone... meh < 1251792436 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in theory) < 1251792469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, since gentoo compiles packages from source when you install them, ABI breakages tends to hurt less... just recompile affected packages. < 1251792472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is easy < 1251792488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of being rather complex like on many other distros < 1251792493 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, I wouldn't call it easy ... even if automatic, too many things can go wrong < 1251792504 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it works well, 100% of the credit goes to the script maintainers < 1251792518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, in my experience those things doesn't go wrong. And yes credit goes to the portage maintainers < 1251792525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ebuild maintainers < 1251792542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(portage = the package manager, ebuilds = the build scripts) < 1251792593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I think I can get used to this new interface. In fact parts of it is cool. Just I miss shell style line editing and history < 1251793280 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-nmcmvimsiymsomif JOIN :#esoteric < 1251793733 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251794302 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251794544 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251794827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[symbolics.com, the first domain name ever registered, has been bought by a "real estate and domain investment company."]] < 1251794846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Symbolics.com Was The FIRST Registered Domain Name! < 1251794846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—http://www.symbolics.com/, "Symbolics: It all started here". < 1251794850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sad, sad event. < 1251794864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't have done that, David K Schmidt. < 1251794867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was bad. < 1251794913 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251794934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a bad person. < 1251794959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your actions are bad and you should feel bad. < 1251795003 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so tell us how you really feel, don't be shy ;-) < 1251795011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusingly it isn't even the oldest domain, just the oldest .com and the oldest still-registered domain. < 1251795015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: He did a bad thing! :P < 1251795036 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(singing) "David did a bad bad thing" (ba dum da dum de dum de dum) < 1251795075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cgi.ebay.com/SYMBOLICS-DOMAIN-NAME-TEL-SEXY-HOT-MATURE-RARE-LOGO_W0QQitemZ220437152045QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335314012d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_11186wt_1167 < 1251795075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! For only $21,000,000 I can buy symbolics.tel with free shipping! It even has a picture of Bama! < 1251795078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Obama < 1251795111 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fairness, it IS sexy, hot, and mature ;-) < 1251795121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis muchly so! < 1251795157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, when the seller's name, 10qvrymuch, is pronounced quickly, it sounds like the pronunciation of "thank you very much"! WILL THE WONDERS EVER CEASE????????? < 1251795665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251796598 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251796791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: i have determined that you do not exist. < 1251797018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toli Toli Toli Toli Toli < 1251797664 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251798004 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251798110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That reminds me of a quote: https://pastee.org/gf9w2 < 1251798137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I really need to click that link to be reminded of a famous h2g2 quote? :P < 1251798226 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like the quotes have unique identifiers I could use to refer to them. < 1251798272 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Finnish translation has the vanishing bit formatted as (retranslating back to English literally) "vanishes like an irrational fart in the Sahara of logic". < 1251798334 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251799790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251800331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought: domain names are probably economically unscarce < 1251800756 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251800934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, in case anyone thought rms has ever been sane, here's what he said when Symbolics corporation told him to stop reading their code and rewriting features from it: < 1251800936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["I definitely did have fantasies of killing myself and destroying their building in the process," Stallman says. "I thought my life was over."]] < 1251801029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["I started crying right there in the equipment room," he says. "Seeing the machine there, dead, with nobody left to fix it, it all drove home how completely my community had been destroyed."]] < 1251801039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cringeworthy even to read this. < 1251801049 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251801143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251801165 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251801299 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does rms nowadays use passwords, I wonder. < 1251801385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, almost certainly. < 1251801396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe not on his laptop. < 1251801403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably on his server accounts. < 1251801447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a fool, incidentally. < 1251801631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251801761 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251801972 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251802523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm? < 1251802591 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird was quoting few bits, probably from http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch07.html I guess. < 1251802611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another copy of that, but yeah. < 1251802634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably AnMaster will now chastise you for not prefixing that with "ehird:"; he's done that before when ignoring me, at least. < 1251803234 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251803744 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251804976 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251806937 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-163-44-163.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251807813 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251809278 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251809830 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251810174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicorn flu huh? < 1251810256 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251810285 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251810386 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251810559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so why are you still pretending like you exist < 1251811239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be buskers with laptops < 1251811245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making electronic music with a laptop case open for money < 1251811254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps with overdriven electric guitars < 1251811267 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-77-180.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251811772 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: For 30 it says 65* < 1251811808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whut < 1251811825 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But what would Jesus say!? < 1251811844 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt the Bible addresses Befunge constants at all. :/ < 1251811891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's such a useless book < 1251811923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What does it say for "befunge" (base 26)? < 1251811942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, tell me what "befunge" is in base 26 < 1251811968 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only takes base 10 as input :-P < 1251811979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's so much work! < 1251812169 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :359086628? < 1251812252 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's that; 4548*+1348**+56898::**+**+*** or 4548*+1c8*+d555558*****+*** or 4"%a5N"5'@**+*** < 1251812879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer the or :P < 1251812926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, another Luddite dualist idiot peddles his unscientific doomsday view on AI in a popsci publication. What else is new. < 1251812967 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had some kind of linear encoding which knew about commutativity that last one could be a character shorter < 1251813093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to produce strong AI: Keep having babies until evolution gets bored and spits out an intelligent, self-improving computer < 1251813103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sure this will work. < 1251813144 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That presupposes two rather unlikely states < 1251813171 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firstly that evolution can get bored, and secondly that it'll do that if it does < 1251813192 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Is there a reason for 4"%a5N"5'@**+*** over 4"%a5N@"5**+*** then? < 1251813209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: If you adopt a sufficiently warped view of what genes can do it has a probability of 1, assuming you're immortal < 1251813216 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Like said, I don't have a linear encoding which knows about commutativity. < 1251813235 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes straight from binary-treeish AST to string < 1251813247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Without a sufficiently warped view, you'll just get a baby that immediately flies over to a computer and types out a strong, self-improving AI within hours. < 1251813261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fool-proof. < 1251813269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Also assuming a universe that exists forever < 1251813282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That is kind of implied by a thing being immortal. < 1251813283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess true "immortality" assumes that. < 1251813286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snap. < 1251813307 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, arguably "immortal" could also mean being able to live as long as the surrounding universe. < 1251813317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1251813366 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So it just generates a Mul (Push 5) (Push 64) and the reason it becomes 5'@ instead of '@5 is that the left branch is output first. < 1251813382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All finns: do you guys have obnoxious companies trying to "cut down" on piracy by taking all means necessary against your internet connection? < 1251813385 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying all possible branching orders may or may not be feasible, I'm not sure how fast that grows. < 1251813403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: exponentially, no? < 1251813418 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be my guess < 1251813473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, apparently this exchange has ADSL2+ or something? Well, one company at least thinks it does. < 1251813480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Others don't though. < 1251813501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the max here is 19.8 megabit, which beats the 6 mbit I'm getting < 1251813528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for companies like that; not to my knowledge; there's mainly the local CISAC member, Teosto < 1251813537 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/;/:/ < 1251813557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All finns: Any nasty industry-standard internet censorship or deep packet inspection? < 1251813673 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit of blacklist censorship done by most ISPs; intended to be vs. child porn but there's also some other stuff (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info) < 1251813703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like what we have here; "child porn" which includes that old album cover, oh and "race hate material" and the like < 1251813710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next week, "record industry hate material" < 1251813720 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1047 censored websites" "nine were unrelated to pornography, 28 had content hard to categorize as legal or illegal, 46 were (legal) child modeling sites and 879 contained only legal pornography" < 1251813741 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and "nine of the sites contained child pornography" < 1251813743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be many providers using the list < 1251813749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them are small < 1251813750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsiporno.info#Status_of_lapsiporno.info_with_Finnish_Internet_service_providers < 1251813755 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Elisa must've been a recent change < 1251813761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Nebula is the fast one fizzie uses iirc < 1251813762 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since lapsiporno.info was blocked last I checked < 1251813767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elisa was very recent. < 1251813781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, they blocked a site about it? < 1251813787 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-08-05. < 1251813787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fucked up < 1251813789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if Elisa were still blocked then that'd have Elisa + Welho which are over 50% < 1251813801 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because the site published links that were on the list. < 1251813802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any deep packet inspection, though? < 1251813807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge < 1251813810 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, how would I know ;-) < 1251813821 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Citation? < 1251813829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All finns: What's a good way to learn Finnish, and how do I learn to like saunas? < 1251813831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251813839 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried saunas? :-P < 1251813842 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be a way to start < 1251813844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :-P < 1251813858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That question might have been a little bit joking, so to speak. < 1251813888 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Citation for the reason? Well, I think that was the official reason, anyway. The site doesn't seem to answer right now. < 1251813896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Citation for the date < 1251813903 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of Elisa's unblocking < 1251813958 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Well, that was actually the date for when lapsiporno.info got a note about it. I assume the unblocking came first, don't know the exact date. < 1251813966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, right, Nebula was that one that was great apart from the speed being rather unimpressive < 1251813975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess Ask! is a nice price for 100mbit both ways < 1251813978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can spare Ask!. < 1251813981 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see the page has it < 1251814009 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "unimpressive" in the sense that it's what you get with ADSL-based technologies; I dislike the rather high price more. < 1251814068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, right, I meant the price/speed ratio. < 1251814076 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's a bit unimpressive. < 1251814088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Welho that 100mbit dumbpeople one? < 1251814113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys seem to have the perfect internet connection, just it's scattered across a bunch of subscriptions :P < 1251814113 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh, well, not all Welho users are that dumb, I mean... < 1251814126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251814133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumbpeople? < 1251814141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't support IPv6 or err custom DNS or something < 1251814144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore dumbpeople < 1251814148 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :-P < 1251814152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they, like, advertise TV services < 1251814159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And their site is ugly < 1251814160 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a cable TV company, so.. < 1251814160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs IPv6 when you can download at 110 Mbps < 1251814180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But they use the blacklist too :P < 1251814200 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unnoticeable < 1251814207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morally unacceptable < 1251814215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't notice the CCTV cameras around here either < 1251814218 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, if it were valid < 1251814224 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nebula's selling the "bond two ADSL2+ annex M lines together to get a 48/6M link" service, which is speedy enough, but it's a frigging 150 eur/month. < 1251814227 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand blocking child porn < 1251814249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in censorship, especially when it involves looking at my packets < 1251814274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet service is paying them to give you a hole in the wall with bandwidth, any crimes are your responsibility < 1251814279 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of impossible without looking at packets :-P < 1251814288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Which makes it unacceptable < 1251814299 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they have to look at your packets anyway in order to be able to route them < 1251814306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if you'd just look at the evil-bit-set packets. < 1251814308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's way too expensive for those speeds, indeed < 1251814357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elisa.com is a rather bad site, it lists all the broadband products only with a short summary < 1251814359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You poor finns < 1251814389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your bad telecom company websites < 1251814392 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to the Finnish site for more info :-P < 1251814392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you sleep at night < 1251814395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.elisa.fi/yksityisille/laajakaista/laajakaista/tekniset_tiedot/ < 1251814414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, there wasn't a link to the Finnish site. < 1251814430 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there was < 1251814438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't notice it :P < 1251814441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.elisa.com -> bottom of page "Suomeksi" < 1251814448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suomeksi < 1251814451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of course" < 1251814464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100mbit/10mbit? < 1251814467 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can't expect to find the link if you don't speak Finnish < 1251814468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be fibr-optic < 1251814470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fibre < 1251814476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that must be some hefty ADSL < 1251814484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, it's fibre-optic but they rate limited the upload < 1251814491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're—— < 1251814494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of computers in use as early < 1251814500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a limit on how many computers you can use with it? < 1251814506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251814508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1251814514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It comes with five dynamic IPs. < 1251814528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's rather pointless with IPv4 < 1251814530 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Five dynamic IPs" seems to be the de-facto "standard" around here. < 1251814537 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1251814542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen more than one dynamic IP < 1251814625 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, the "super" thing is for.. er, building-owners, to be resold to actual people-living-there; and it goes to 100M/10M only when the house in question has suitable Ethernet cabling. < 1251814647 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 24M/1M for phone-cabling-only places. < 1251814734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reminds me of MizardX's weird click-to-switch-broadband thing. < 1251814773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's 1 Gbps fibre to the basement in any case. And they're only selling it (in case of existing buildings) to buildings with at least 20 apartments in them. < 1251814867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh! < 1251814897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the Swedish internet situation is better, I seem to hear a lot of good interweb thingies from there. < 1251814905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, also Norway. They have a lot of fibre. < 1251814913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just go to South Korea < 1251814936 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welho's 110M/5M is probably the widestly-available fast-enough connection, and that's just because large parts of the capital-city area is in their cable TV network. < 1251815005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find any sort of comprehensive list for where Elisa's 100M/10M thing is available, just the "put your address here and we'll tell you" thing. < 1251815014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But even fantasy-head-moving because of just internet would be unacceptable without taking the time to fantasy-head-move to somewhere with a decent political system :p < 1251815030 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251815057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You European social democracies collect political parties like Pokemon. < 1251815061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many are there now, 152? < 1251815295 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host81-129-119-179.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251815624 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're still speaking of Finland, we only have 15 currently registered political parties. A total sum of everything in Europe would be quite a lot, I guess. < 1251815639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was joking; 152 = initial pokemon + 1. < 1251815653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Sweden have like 17 with seats? < 1251815676 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know; we have 8 of those. < 1251815694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, in the world where everything is backwards: "SSDs are best for sequential writes and HDDs are best for random writes." < 1251815750 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their Parliament is bigger; 349 seats, compared to our 200. You can fit more parties in there. < 1251815755 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure their building is also bigger. < 1251815773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. They can fit bigger people because their seats are bigger because their building is bigger. < 1251815777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Riksdagen-fran-vattnet-2004-05-09.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eduskuntatalo_(Finnish_Parliament_building).JPG < 1251815780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This helps because Swedish people are bigger. < 1251815799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I didn't know Finland was located in Ancient Greece! < 1251815809 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a little-known fact. < 1251815824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many people do not know that. < 1251815932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile: http://buttersafe.com/comics/2009-09-01-theevilplan.jpg < 1251815950 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1251815951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they're using that picture, as it's more imposing; Wikipedia does have one which shows the complete structure -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Parliament_House_of_Finland.jpg -- but in that one it's not so impressive. < 1251815968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maxisat? More like < 1251815971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marxisat? More like < 1251815975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marxis? More like < 1251815978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Marx? More like < 1251815983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karl Marx? More like < 1251815984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMMUNISTS < 1251815994 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do IPTV things, actually. < 1251816000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO COMMUNISM < 1251816015 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and sell broadband internet. :p < 1251816029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And communism. < 1251816074 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxisat < 1251816077 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for heavy data flow < 1251816083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your communism < 1251816089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECONOMIC FLOW < 1251816090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of GOODS < 1251816721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmph < 1251816949 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251817095 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251817375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I had some Haskell to code :P < 1251817523 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's plenty of Haskell in the world < 1251817570 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The phrase "I can has kell" popped into my mind. < 1251817629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That is true < 1251817638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that got to do with wanting to write something that haskell would fit nicely < 1251817655 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means there's plenty of stuff to hack on if that's what you want to do < 1251817718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's icky practical software by Other People Who Are Bad Coders. :P < 1251817748 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the "who are bad coders" comes by default since it's "other people"? < 1251817782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally < 1251817944 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That attitude does limit your options somewhat < 1251817977 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to suggest improving my fungifier but you can also code a better one from scratch, if you want; it's fairly short < 1251817993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1251817996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd just end up bruteforcing i < 1251817997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1251818002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there's an eleganty algo to do it < 1251818006 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do that too, if it ends up fast enough :-P < 1251818019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas i cannot transcend the laws of physisc < 1251818022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics < 1251818053 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can < 1251818171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: sweet, gimme my infinity machine < 1251818188 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So you want not only some Haskell, but some Haskell that implements an elegant algorithm? :-P < 1251818204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the task is boring in itself imo < 1251818227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much factoring + subtract and factor < 1251818307 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : Later < 1251818312 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feeling a bit lazy right no < 1251818324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newsflash: most tasks are boring especially when summarized in a single sentence :-P < 1251818343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a perfectly passable algo really < 1251818396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1234 → (for base 10) 2*(1+(8*7*(1+(2*5)))) < 1251818399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251818409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25*1+87*1+2* < 1251818413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly not exceedingly good < 1251818439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if 5 words, one being "+", can describe a half-passable algorithm it's probably just a boring hill-climb with slightly better and better heuristics < 1251818491 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better than what my current one gets allowing only decimals < 1251818498 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2948328*+**+* < 1251818584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1251818595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Gimme a number yours does well on and I'll give it a crack with my uber-tedious algo < 1251818600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, trivial optimisation of mine: < 1251818609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25*87*+2+2* < 1251818629 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, what's "well" :-P < 1251818670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Shortly? < 1251818672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just gimme a number :P < 1251818680 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :57849 < 1251818742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*(1+(2*5))*(1+(2*2*2*3*(1+(2*2*2*3*3)))) < 1251818744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial reduction: < 1251818754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3*(1+(2*5))*(1+(8**3*(1+(8*9)))) < 1251818758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1251818765 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :57*:*9+ with some Human Ingenuity, which no computar in the world can match. < 1251818768 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For 1234, I mean. < 1251818781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89*1+83*1+25*1+3** < 1251818790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivially simplify: < 1251818814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89*83*25*++3+3** < 1251818818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1251818822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a trailing * there < 1251818833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that failed < 1251818834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1251818881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89*1+83**1+25*1+*3* < 1251818913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is < 1251818936 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251818945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89*83**25**3*3+ < 1251818950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: what does yours give? < 1251818951 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :78+88+*::*9++ < 1251818965 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The square-root finding I did manually might even make sense. < 1251818967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: remember that this algo is four words and a symbol :P < 1251818977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying that the problem is kinda trivial < 1251818981 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That gives 51843 < 1251818993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, so I reduced wrong at some point < 1251818996 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine gives 392+13898:*+**+** using decimals < 1251818999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired; what to do is obvious < 1251819012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a trivial problem just because it can't be solved < 1251819017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So shorter than my initial one just by a char < 1251819041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda yawnsville, yah? < 1251819100 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't call it trivial, anyway. I'm sure it gets really quite interesting when the numbers are large enough that loops start to make sense. < 1251819102 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is yours doing something with prime factors? < 1251819110 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1251819123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's mine < 1251819130 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what does it do when it gets to 1753? < 1251819139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For mine, it subtracts one and refactors < 1251819142 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :approximate and add? < 1251819143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then does 1+ < 1251819154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Give me a large number < 1251819159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 8119824918791285132865191 < 1251819166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you just hate me. < 1251819170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't automated this you know. < 1251819178 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split it in half until it's small enough :-P < 1251819183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it reduces to a whole bunch of 2*2*2*2* with factor(1) < 1251819191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then 23, then 54798378614461 < 1251819196 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1251819200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1251819203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just take the easy way out, why don'tcha < 1251819210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: factor unix program < 1251819220 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Mine grabs the one with most factors that it can subtract to < 1251819223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you said 2 is a factor of 8119824918791285132865191 < 1251819228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the hopes that those are easier to reduce < 1251819233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, just not a prime factor :P < 1251819241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1251819241 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1251819249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is factor(1) broken? < 1251819252 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number is odd so 2 can't be a factor of it < 1251819254 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your factor(1) must be pretty strange then. < 1251819255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am barely awake here btw < 1251819260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe overflow < 1251819260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish there was like an ignore that ignored ehird when there's math being talked about < 1251819268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when he's tired < 1251819269 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine just says: factor: `8119824918791285132865191' is too large < 1251819270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some factor(1)s don't support bigger than machine-sized ints < 1251819276 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine says: 8119824918791285132865191: 13960227797 581639858379403 < 1251819297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1251819307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*8*6*23*54798378614461 certainly = 8119824918791285132865191 < 1251819314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1251819316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1251819320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it does < 1251819323 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8119824918791284674527232 < 1251819326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then goes and diverges on yo ass < 1251819329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you factor(1) < 1251819331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are suck ass < 1251819337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me install gnu factor or something < 1251819611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1251819612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see < 1251819616 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@82.182.180.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251819733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Close < 1251819744 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close? < 1251819757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To fully converting it < 1251819865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1+(2*2*(1+(2*2*(1+(2*2*3*3))))*(1+(2*(1+(2*5*5*5))))*(1+(2*3*3*(1+(2*2*3))*(1+(2*3*3*(1+(2*5))))))))*(1+(2*3*(1+(2*2*(1+(2*3*(1+(2*(1+(2*5))))))))*(1+(2*3*3*5*7))*(1+(2*3*(1+(2*2*(1+(2*3*3*3*3))))))*(1+(2*7*(1+(2*5))*(1+(2*2*2*3*(1+(2*3*3)))))))) < 1251819868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simplifying, < 1251819944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1+(4*(1+(4*(1+(4*9))))*(1+(2*(1+(2*5*5*5))))*(1+(2*9*(1+(4*3))*(1+(2*9*(1+(2*5))))))))*(1+(2*3*(1+(4*(1+(6*(1+(2*(1+(2*5))))))))*(1+(2*9*5*7))*(1+(6*(1+(4*(1+(6*9*3))))))*(1+(2*7*(1+(2*5))*(1+(4*6*(1+(2*9)))))))) < 1251819951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You can RPN that yourself :P < 1251819953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does yours output? < 1251819972 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :68888888888728*+145994+75838:*+**+76599458**+2379**+****+*****+************ < 1251819992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be easier to just write it in say base 9 < 1251819999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be shorter than Deewiant's too < 1251820003 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'08'@"@@@"f8+'½8';"@SZ@"*+"¿0@e"**+****+*******, the latin-1, is much nicer < 1251820013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing parens (that'll be how long it is in RPN) gives 125 for mine, 75 for yours < 1251820031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty funny how well a 4 words+symbol algo is doing against your long prog :P < 1251820049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how the trivial solution is better than either of yours < 1251820067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My long prog generalizes to a bunch of stuff < 1251820068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because it's a trivial problem < 1251820068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking internet < 1251820069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too slow < 1251820073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251820086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: which trivial solution < 1251820091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: True, still < 1251820097 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'm just angry at internet, and tired enough to project. < 1251820097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I can think of a bunch of brute-force improvements to mine < 1251820099 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it isn't that long, either < 1251820102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. subtract a variable amount < 1251820104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just 1 < 1251820106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruteforce < 1251820117 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, bruteforcing is an improvement but also fucking slow :-P < 1251820120 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: just write it in the normal canonical number notation < 1251820129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that does not execute in befunge < 1251820129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in base 9, if you don't have an A < 1251820132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not really < 1251820144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obvious when you'll run into diminishing returns < 1251820146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1251820178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't d9*d+9*d+9*... work? < 1251820191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :four chars per digit, might lose to Deewiant, too hard to calculate < 1251820202 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19*2+9*2+9*7+9*1+9*3+9*4+9*8+9*7+9*5+9*0+9*8+9*6+9*4+9*5+9*3+9*5+9*5+9*3+9*4+9*1+9*1+9*3+9*6+9*8+9*6+9*3+ < 1251820207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant's wins massively on... other numbers < 1251820208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1251820210 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That'd be 100 < 1251820218 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since this is a 25-digit number. < 1251820228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: in base 9? < 1251820230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or base 10 < 1251820232 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Base 10. < 1251820237 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 122713487508645355341136863 in base-9. < 1251820241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do base 9 < 1251820254 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In base 9 it'd be 105? < 1251820255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: we have a-f actually. < 1251820258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're just not using them < 1251820260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, as i said, i was just projecting. < 1251820266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking fucking internet < 1251820272 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to load like 3 pages < 1251820286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a-f it's a bit shorter: 88688888888f8+d6781489**+1459**+3488f4+1a8:**+****+*****+************ < 1251820292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: are you using that gprs thing < 1251820294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blob thing < 1251820297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: how long would mine be? < 1251820304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, neighbor's net. < 1251820316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: complain to your neighbour :P < 1251820320 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 2009-09-01 17:50:54 ( Deewiant) In base 9 it'd be 105? < 1251820336 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19642DA3B3043453DAA0CB in base-15, with approximately *4 for the "+f*" parts in-between. < 1251820343 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Uppercase since that's what bc outputs.) < 1251820351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i meant in 16 < 1251820358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err right base 15 < 1251820363 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 digits in base-15. < 1251820369 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :85 < 1251820395 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, ceiling the end result isn't quite enough is it < 1251820399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, 88 then < 1251820403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :87 < 1251820410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the first one doesn't need a + < 1251820416 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True that < 1251820421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1251820428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still win with 69 < 1251820454 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which you should, if you call it an algorithm) < 1251820471 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call lots of simple things algorithms < 1251820478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this is just a call to zip < 1251820513 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, umm. it was just a figure of your mom < 1251820522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1251820534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, it rhymes < 1251820591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom and ] totally rhyme < 1251821240 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84.217.14.48 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251821543 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251821706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want a key on my keyboard that is labelled "Ha! You referenced xkcd! You are clearly a funny, culturally relevant and intelligent person." < 1251821750 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more worried about my impression that xkcd sometimes seems to be referencing reddit lately... < 1251821776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if he is spending too much time there ;D < 1251821844 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh they _do_ have some kind of business partnership < 1251821872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're in business together selling shitty ties < 1251821899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm shitty ties. something for GregorR? < 1251821938 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and speaking of 8119824918791285132865191: < 1251821939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3176727665646579168954283320> \:#v_.@ < 1251821939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^+*9\-1< < 1251821954 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiple lines: no-go < 1251821957 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hallo. <-- scariest atomic element ever < 1251821992 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3176727665646579168954283320>\#+:#* #9 #\ #- #1_ < 1251822016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would be a base loop. < 1251822021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of sorts. < 1251822032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why not... base 10? < 1251822038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin' < 1251822040 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You need a $ at the end < 1251822051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'tis a reference to adium and also scary. < 1251822052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Yes. < 1251822078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did 1+ to the base-9 digits to have 0 more easily usable as a end-of-digits marker. < 1251822107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, err, you have 0 at the top of the stack. < 1251822124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the accumulator. < 1251822128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you can call it that. < 1251822147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251822150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the accumulator, it's accumulating < 1251822177 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accumulonimbus clouds today. < 1251822214 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1251822234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acacumollofdimbus on the rimbus its like a rombhus but you dont hve to worry oh no < 1251822248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rhombus < 1251822264 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rombhus is a type of house, I think. < 1251822276 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :et rombiskt hus < 1251822349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"—and he build a crooked house—" was about gay arriage in rhombusses < 1251822375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhombu bus s yststem < 1251822377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets you from A to B < 1251822380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a rhombus < 1251822417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define arriage < 1251822419 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1251822426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse and arriage < 1251822432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horseless arriages < 1251822443 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251822465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1251822472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking about gay marriage in 4-dimensional shapes < 1251822477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just me rather < 1251822484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... well, I'm not particularly surprised < 1251822486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1251822491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rhombuses aren't 4 dimensional < 1251822501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "—and he built a crooked house—" was about a tesseract < 1251822504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I said build, not built < 1251822525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO THEREFORE MAGIC HAPPENS HERE and we come back to comprehension on the rhombus bus services, gets you from A to B in a rhombus < 1251822600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you understand ais523. < 1251822631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly I could if I wanted to < 1251822634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not trying to < 1251822635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no < 1251822649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will never be salvaged from the burning ruins of a dead rhombusbus, gets you from A to B in a rhombus < 1251822821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251822854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now wonders what the heck Picard-Vessiot theory has to do with the possibility of four-dimensional houses
< 1251822867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: If I got my base-64 right, this one assumes only ASCII. The "decompression" takes up more space than the "digits" even for 8119824918791285132865191, though: < 1251822869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>:#+\#* #* #8 #8 #\ #- #* #8 #8_$ < 1251822875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: eh? < 1251822889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see where you got Picard-Vessiot theory from < 1251822895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's mentioned in wp's article on "And he built a crooked house" < 1251822910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*“—And He Built a Crooked House—” < 1251822911 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link leads to a page on galois theory which doesn't mention the term < 1251822912 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's a bit longer than the base-9 one, isn't it? < 1251822927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: eh, just read the story < 1251822928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's short < 1251822939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, by one character, if I add the missing $ there too. < 1251822970 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The repetition of 88* is inelegant, but \ is so limited. < 1251822982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1251823002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nah, i'm just suspecting technobabble here < 1251823015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall any technobabble < 1251823021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good story anyway < 1251823045 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the minimal number is whereafter parsers like that take up less space than plain +*-representations of the number < 1251823090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://web.archive.org/web/20000902022857/http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/heinlein/heinlein1.html < 1251823091 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1251823094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasn't fully loaded for me yet, but < 1251823126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, just errors out < 1251823142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries a later date
< 1251823146 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page works fine < 1251823159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pages 2 and 3 as well < 1251823178 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Reusing the obvious \ both ways make the base-64 one shorter by one char than the base-9: "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>:#+ #* #* #8 #8\ #- #* #8 #8_$ < 1251823192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Flash detection fails here < 1251823196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses w3m
< 1251823201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah! < 1251823203 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://web.archive.org/web/20080115153446/http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/heinlein/heinlein1.html < 1251823205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loads quickly, etc. < 1251823216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what lang is that? Befunge? < 1251823226 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Loads much slower than the other one :-P < 1251823233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Stop living in opposites world. < 1251823240 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus far, not at all < 1251823250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try refreshing < 1251823251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worked for me < 1251823266 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, evidently < 1251823266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: erm the other one errored out for me < 1251823280 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now both work for me < 1251823291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annoyingly, I need to resize my window small < 1251823293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm even starting to get pictures :-O < 1251823296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise the black text goes on the green background < 1251823306 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The old link doesn't have that problem < 1251823315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it also redirects my browser < 1251823336 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why we have things like NoScript. < 1251823349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why we have things like not using shitty websites < 1251823373 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not always an option < 1251823397 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Still a bit shorter: "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>:#+\#* #@' $#\ #- #@' $# _$ < 1251823399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah thanks for the resizing tip < 1251823404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yw :P < 1251823415 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, #@' $# < 1251823422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3$&*(#Y$(&#*$(& to you too < 1251823445 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The $s ate a bit of the savings '@ gave me over 88*. < 1251823482 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it take less space to use "" and k$ instead of #? < 1251823506 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it seems to be rather nice with just "" both ways, since I don't have to jump over the @ then. < 1251823585 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly this would work, haven't tested: "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>:#+ #*"@"$#\\#-"@"$# _$ < 1251823601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$# _$ < 1251823604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Druggiefunge < 1251823699 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Doesn't seem to. < 1251823717 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but neither did the previous. < 1251823735 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there could be some other error. I don't have a bignum funge, I've just been thinking aloud here. < 1251823736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the one before that. < 1251823750 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do all give the same number (90), though. :-P < 1251823782 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tested the base-9 for a smaller number, so the theory is sound. :p < 1251823799 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the : there is before the \. < 1251823799 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, base-9 works, but your base-64 doesn't. < 1251823826 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try something like "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>\#+ #*"@"$#\:#-"@"$# _$ < 1251823863 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8119824918791284998647463 < 1251823940 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the base-64 digits manually, since bc(1) only goes up to obase=16, based on the obase=2 binary output of 8119824918791285132865191, so an error might've crept in. < 1251823979 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there's one flipped bit in there. < 1251823989 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere around the middle of it. < 1251824029 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8119824918791285132865191-8119824918791284998647463 = 134217728 = 2^27, so it's that bit. < 1251824082 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm sure that with enough ingenuity it's possible to use that same "@" to provide both the '@- and the '@* numbers. Maybe I should try to permute it a bit. < 1251824201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it really be as simple as "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>\#+:#*"@"-#\\# _$ or did I mess something new up, in addition to that one digit? < 1251824245 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I obviously mean the less retarded "gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>\#+:#*"@"-#\_$ < 1251824250 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get Erlang and efunge and try it yourself, if you like < 1251824268 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at work... hey, wait, there's Erlang on this thing. < 1251824282 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That latest one seems to be an infinite loop < 1251824293 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's missing one space. < 1251824303 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gzZTSbG]B]I\wZ"0>\#+:#*"@"-# \_$ < 1251824308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably not the latest erlang v2009-08. < 1251824312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever. < 1251824326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "Erlang (BEAM) emulator version 5.6.3", whatever that means. Probably ancient. < 1251824360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is 5.7.1 and the efunge version I've got here got warnings about doing deprecated things < 1251824385 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, that is indeed 8119824918791284998647463 < 1251824410 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251824422 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now, that last one has a pretty nifty base-64-depackifier. I ♥ befunge. < 1251824440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know how you said 9-nines would be ridiculous? < 1251824452 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251824453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in what context? < 1251824469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uptime < 1251824523 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251824569 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is your base-64 just 64 characters starting at '@'? < 1251824576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AXD301 -- 99.9999999% reliability (9 nines) (31 ms. year!)" < 1251824590 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, it's not the more common base-64. < 1251824616 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But the printable characters end at 126 < 1251824648 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Fortunately your example number didn't have any other digits. :p < 1251824665 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251824683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You can trivially change that to "base-63 starting from ASCII '?'" with a s/@/?/. < 1251824684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, that's what I meant < 1251824692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an Erlang switcher system thing < 1251824692 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do base-96 if you start from ' ' < 1251824699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How on earth can they commit to 9 nines; it becomes meaningless at that point < 1251825140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then I'd lose the nifty "substract and multiply constant both ways" thing. < 1251825140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be an advantage for larger numbers, sure. < 1251825140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicurious Befunge: "I'll subtract and multiply your constant both ways, baby." < 1251825140 0 :iano!n=iosgood@076-076-146-052.pdx.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251825140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I could start from '#' since then I could do '# which is push-35 in one direction and do-nothing the other way. Still wouldn't be quite that short though. < 1251825140 0 :iano!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1251825140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, 2^64-1 is ff2+14'@*+1a'@*+128'@:***+"a7 /Q"***+***** < 1251825140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By that time it's already better to use that base-64-reader < 1251825140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1251825141 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it's also 28'@'@:*:**:***1- if you apply some extra cleverness < 1251825233 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do 0 ... 63^11-1 = 62050608388552823487 > 2^64 with 11 base-64 digits, and the extraction part -- 0>\#+:#*"@"-# \_$ -- is 17 characters, so that's an upper bound of 28 characters for any constant for a "normal" funge on a "normal" machine. < 1251825266 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, base-63, I mean, and ? instead of @ there. < 1251825287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bongggggggggggggggggggg < 1251825319 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :63^11-1 is a nice one: "?11111QQ":*:******** < 1251825433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly nicer than the base-63 representation, "}}}}}}}}}}}"0>\#+:#*"?"-# \_$ (again untested) < 1251825460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Factoring large prime numbers is, in general, hard." < 1251825460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— GNU Coreutils manual < 1251825468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, FSF! < 1251825486 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... ? < 1251825500 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think that doesn't belong in a manual? < 1251825551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of like saying "Removing a file will render you unable to access its contents" in the rm manual :P < 1251825559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I just found it funny < 1251825565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, IMO < 1251825578 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter is kind of obvious, the former is specialized knowledge < 1251825600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also continues with relevant stuff: "The Pollard Rho algorithm used by factor is particularly effective for numbers with relatively small factors. If you wish to factor large numbers which do not have small factors (for example, numbers which are the product of two large primes), other methods are far better." < 1251825601 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect people to know that factorization is computationally hard unless they're computer-sciencey < 1251825636 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they could say "(for example, if you are trying to break RSA encryption)" there. < 1251825645 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1251825789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope nobody does that :P < 1251825804 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to break RSA? < 1251825814 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try to break RSA with factor(1). < 1251825824 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a try < 1251825837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes but there is sort of a lot of stuff encrypted with RSA. < 1251825838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be bad. < 1251825856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is concievable that NSA's secret factorization algorithms have accidentally ended up in GNU Coreutils. < 1251825857 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fear success? :-P < 1251825886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: How much stuff have you got encrypted with pgp? < 1251825917 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much < 1251825925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then :P < 1251825938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1251825942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I had, I wouldn't worry < 1251825945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd just melt down all of our current security entirely < 1251825949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't very good < 1251825955 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it wouldn't succeed :-P < 1251826051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What wouldn't? < 1251826059 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breaking RSA with factor(1) < 1251826066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie added factor(1) as a joke < 1251826070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said factor(1) < 1251826083 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought he clarified what you meant < 1251826090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P < 1251826391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a cocktail of like 10 energy drinks. < 1251826398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not drink it due to valuing my life. < 1251826412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, factor(1) errors out for too large numbers iirc < 1251826433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe I misremember < 1251826453 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the coreutils one, you can compile it with GMP support for large numbers. < 1251826469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% gfactor 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 < 1251826469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[hang] < 1251826471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah indeed.. it errors out on my ubuntu system but not my gentoo desktop < 1251826475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I shouldn't have picked such a big counterexample. < 1251826566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you can make use of multiple cpus to speed up factoring right? < 1251826588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well depends on your algorithm. At least the naive one should be easy to speed up that way < 1251826631 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one factors large numbers with that one, though. But yes, I think there are good parallel algorithms for it. < 1251826657 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have no clue about is the state-of-the-art in number-factoring. < 1251826685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We can break real-world RSA in 2^97 years!" < 1251826717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, of course no one use the naive one for large numbers. At least no one sane. < 1251826866 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on some quick googling, the current records from the RSA Factoring Challenge were done on an 80-node cluster. < 1251826873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mine is 5.7.1 and the efunge version I've got here got warnings about doing deprecated things < 1251826874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1251826877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what efunge version < 1251826909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is R13B-0 right? < 1251826937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no warnings on V5.7.2 for me with trunk or athr branch. < 1251826978 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The efunge version I've got here" sounds like it might not be the newest. < 1251826991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use lp:efunge/trunk right? Not on rage.kuonet.org (see bzr info, look for "parent branch") < 1251827016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw 5.6.3 is probably too old < 1251827021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for things to work correctly < 1251827043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that at least input will cause an exception with that old version. < 1251827070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R13B or later is pretty much required, since I use some unicode stuff that was added in that version < 1251827077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for input that is < 1251827262 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it was, some old trunk I haven't updated in months < 1251827282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, just curious, what was reported as deprecated? < 1251827288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you remember that is < 1251827297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC something about "array" or some such now being a primitive < 1251827325 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something becoming standard and thus using it in a variable name is deprecated, or something like that < 1251827335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh right, remember that. Yeah your copy is outdated < 1251827343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well a type spec name in fact < 1251827344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1251827351 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I knew that it was outdated < 1251828067 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-141-90.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251828902 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251829376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw, most of your projects seems to be in haskell rather than D. Why didn't you decide to code ccbi2 in haskell too? < 1251831251 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251831540 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking for myself, it can be hard to predict performance in Haskell < 1251832245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, mhm < 1251832283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, considering how much Deewiant complained about the hash library in D recently I think his opinion is it is hard to predict performance in D too XD < 1251832295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tends to be rather easy in C though) < 1251834635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251834975 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-37-158.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251835296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251835499 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1251836857 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-124-134.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1251837260 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set f {x y: x+y} print f 1 2 #=> 3 < 1251837350 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set [: {until :] items : map items {x: x*2}} [[: 1 2 3 :] [: 4 :]] #=> [[2 4 6] [8]] < 1251837357 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool/uncool? < 1251837401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, language? < 1251837446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :editing the panel in gnome is seriously annoying < 1251837447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1251837463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the "lock to panel" thingy is messing things up < 1251837464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1251837497 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set unless {cond `begin until `end terms : if not cond terms} < 1251837512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless == a b begin do_sth end < 1251837518 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh < 1251837534 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defining functions with own pattern that parses args < 1251837674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, what language.... < 1251837680 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1251837683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1251837686 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a concept < 1251837715 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nah, it's fairly easy to predict in D. < 1251837716 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, to me it looks vaguely like a mix of perl and some functional language XD < 1251837722 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek sadol with longer IDs, lambda and this pattern thingy < 1251837725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh? "it sucks"? < 1251837731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251837741 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: If it's a feature built in to the compiler, then yeah. ;-) < 1251837754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, isn't the language itself built in? < 1251837762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a manner of speaking < 1251837764 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251837769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251837771 0 :oklofok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251837772 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes yes, you know what I meant. :-P < 1251837774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks by weird compiler bugs < 1251837774 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, i wrote 'liek' accidentally for the first time in my life < 1251837783 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251837785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wrong file in debug info < 1251837807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for CCBI2, two reasons: 1. I had 6000 lines of D code for a Befunge interp already... 2. Since we're all performance-crazy and the whole thing is rather imperative in nature, Haskell isn't that great a fit. < 1251837812 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about? :| < 1251837817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, right < 1251837824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, ccbi... < 1251837830 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1251837842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, 6800 lines only? < 1251837860 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's not a weird bug, it's quite a sensible one actually. < 1251837867 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ccbi&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 < 1251837875 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is still unfixed, even. < 1251837891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language Files Code Comment Comment % Blank Total < 1251837891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :---------------- ----- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- < 1251837891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c 95 8848 3542 28.6% 1597 13987 < 1251837892 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-113-39-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251837893 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really matter since the mangled name contains the module where it is :-P < 1251837897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, 6800 lines isn't a lot < 1251837904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It was less than 10000 last I checked. < 1251837921 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I said 6000, not 6800. < 1251837923 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bork < 1251837926 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably more like 8000 though. < 1251837930 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember. < 1251837935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, plus another 2745 LOC (4573 total) for the lib directory, which contains libghthash and genx < 1251837945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and that stringbuffer too < 1251837961 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about your bf to C ? < 1251837967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, which one of them < 1251837974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, and they are all dormant < 1251837982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the projects I mean < 1251837995 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251838010 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? i thought that was a rather interesting topic < 1251838065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, didn't know enough CS to write a better optimiser at that time. My choice of design was a bit limited. Maybe I'll write yet another one in a few years. < 1251838068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1251838080 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CS? < 1251838086 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251838087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer science < 1251838092 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251838100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I couldn't work out how to work the graphs :P < 1251838105 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the firs thing i thought about was Counter-Strike < 1251838117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, that is the last thing that would come to my mind for CS < 1251838138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) computer science 2) file extension for C# 3) hm no idea... 4) oh wait... 5) wasn < 1251838139 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's because i played half-life 1 for last 12h < 1251838142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't* it some game? < 1251838149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6) damn don't remember what that game was called < 1251838161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, I never played half life < 1251838162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251838163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cs < 1251838165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1251838172 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never played cs < 1251838177 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's boring < 1251838177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251838179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251838188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hl1 is a memmory from childhood < 1251838193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1251838201 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;] < 1251838213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, age? < 1251838221 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :current? < 1251838226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1251838228 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21, probably < 1251838237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you played half life? < 1251838243 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1251838245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, half life of what? < 1251838251 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHHHH < 1251838260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uranium? thorium? < 1251838262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something else < 1251838263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251838269 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-Life_(video_game) < 1251838269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, what? < 1251838275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : GHHHH <-- why that < 1251838303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I know it is a game, I just wonder what element the title of that game refers too < 1251838305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to* < 1251838308 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onomatopoeia < 1251838317 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that GHHHH < 1251838324 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the title < 1251838341 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it refers to some person that if half dead < 1251838344 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1251838346 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1251838355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhu < 1251838359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds boring < 1251838405 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's just fucking awesome < 1251838418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, I never liked first person shooters < 1251838425 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1251838429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? < 1251838432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dislike them too < 1251838436 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1251838437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251838442 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buut that one is cool < 1251838451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor third person shooters btw. < 1251838454 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half-Life is just a scientific term, it has no particular meaning in the context of the game < 1251838461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though first person ones are worse < 1251838471 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have expansions called "Blue Shift" and such, too. < 1251838479 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen that < 1251838496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, blue shift refers to Doppler effect? < 1251838508 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1251838510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of anything else it could refer to < 1251838522 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny: if you translate half-life to Polish it will look like: czas połowicznego rozpadu < 1251838527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so what has that got to do with half life? < 1251838535 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nothing, as I just explained. < 1251838554 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blie shift -> przesunięcie ku fioletowi < 1251838556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess uranium travelling at high speed towards you would blue shift ;P < 1251838567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, "blie"? < 1251838569 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue* < 1251838571 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1251838573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251838588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:half-life = sv:halveringstid < 1251838600 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much cooler < 1251838601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets hear the fi one Deewiant! < 1251838614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, it literally means "halving-time" < 1251838628 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puoliintumisaika < 1251838633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, nice one < 1251838644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how the hell do you pronounce it < 1251838650 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also literally "halving-time" < 1251838658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1251838664 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ˈpuɔliːn̪t̪umisˌɑikɑ] < 1251838674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, mhm < 1251838684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what is the dirt below the n and the t? < 1251838703 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure, I just copied that from Wiktionary < 1251838707 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pl:czas połowicznego rozpadu = en:half decay time < 1251838730 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-02.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1251838771 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently it means they're dental consonants < 1251838816 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted to know what ̪ /is/, it's U+032A COMBINING BRIDGE BELOW < 1251838824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems en:blue shift is sv:blåförskjutning according to Wikipedia < 1251838832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds familiar too < 1251838841 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:sinisiirtymä < 1251838862 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blåförskjutning.. I think I've heard about that once < 1251838865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well literal translation of the sv: one would end up as blue shift I think < 1251838870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, same... < 1251838883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, rödförskjutning too it seems < 1251838894 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't heard about that one, though < 1251838901 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Blåförskjutning är motsatsen till rödförskjutning" < 1251838906 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, great information < 1251838910 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you write swedish word "lax" in IPA? < 1251838916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, well the red one isn't a stub < 1251838918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would help < 1251838919 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, I'd've thought red shift is better known < 1251838920 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the article about the red one was a bit longer < 1251838923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to click the link < 1251838923 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed now < 1251838935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh? < 1251838951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why is that < 1251838952 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1251838973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant, why is that Yes < 1251838978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to quote FireFly: < 1251838981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, great information < 1251838982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's not what you asked < 1251838991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well... < 1251838994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant, oh? < 1251838994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant, why is that < 1251838994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes < 1251838999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was for the former < 1251839007 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-09-01 23:02:15 ( AnMaster) Deewiant, oh? < 1251839007 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-09-01 23:02:29 ( Deewiant) Yes < 1251839007 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-09-01 23:02:32 ( AnMaster) Deewiant, why is that < 1251839017 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from a NPOV: < 1251839018 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:02:15] Deewiant, oh? < 1251839018 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:02:32] Yes < 1251839018 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:02:32] Deewiant, why is that < 1251839028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a 2 sec difference here :P < 1251839045 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, for the "why", redshift is much more prominent in astronomy < 1251839058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah hm right < 1251839064 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I vissa fall förekommer också det motsatta fenomenet, blåförskjutning." < 1251839073 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like blue ones are less common < 1251839075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1251839078 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And therefore more unknown? < 1251839081 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, less known* < 1251839085 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from CS to red shift < 1251839095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, what a shift of topic ;P < 1251839095 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric < 1251839157 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, #esoteric, and therefore we may not talk about anything remotely related to esolangs < 1251839209 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, redshift is just what you're more likely to run into so I'd consider it more likely that one has never heard of blueshift < 1251839219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, we did talk about ccbi above < 1251839224 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, if you actually know what either is, it should be obvious what the other is. < 1251839228 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh noes! < 1251839232 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone, ban AnMaster! < 1251839236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, and Deewiant < 1251839242 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *!*@* < 1251839246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes indeed < 1251839256 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you said it again! < 1251839258 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll make sure all discussion is on-topic, at least < 1251839423 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251839476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, said what again? < 1251839494 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You talked about esolangs again, or rather, mentioned ccbi < 1251839505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, So did you now! < 1251839506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251839516 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was a semi-pun of the Holy Grail knights who say Ni < 1251839521 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With "you said it again!" < 1251839535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, that reference was too far fetched by far < 1251839541 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251839553 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1251839555 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far too far fetched < 1251839559 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far too far fetched by far < 1251839573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, ah yes that would have been even better < 1251839620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I'm pretty sure "you said it again" is not unique to the knights who use the Swedish word for first person plural :P < 1251839625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251839627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second person < 1251839631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1251839638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, I forgot my grammar :P < 1251839652 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely not first person, at least < 1251839656 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second, yeah < 1251839656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251839656 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi/ < 1251839657 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251839663 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TYPO!!!!!!!!!@@!!21212 < 1251839668 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant ni < 1251839675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1251839682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, så vad vill ni? < 1251839684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251839695 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jag va inte < 1251839706 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably want "vet" there < 1251839712 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1251839741 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish must be confusing for someone not knowing the language at all < 1251839747 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or language family < 1251839774 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so is probably all languages, depending on how far away they are from other languages one knows < 1251839793 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brother speaks swedish almost fluently < 1251839803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, do you think that smorgasbord is one of the funniest English words? < 1251839816 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English? < 1251839818 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just from reading few books and listening swedish radio < 1251839822 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one of those stupidest loan words < 1251839830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yes, they copied it and dropped the dots < 1251839831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being there for a month < 1251839831 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is it an english loan word? < 1251839836 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I didn't know < 1251839840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, they loaned it from Swedish < 1251839845 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, yeah < 1251839850 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds... really odd < 1251839852 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stupid < 1251839855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1251839856 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-159-104-147.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251839862 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess it's partly because I'm used to it < 1251839870 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the swedish one, I mean < 1251839882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251839889 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:smorgasbord = pl:szwedzki stół < 1251839890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, they loaned ombudsman too btw < 1251839899 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1251839904 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whish means literally Swedish table < 1251839905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, how should I know < 1251839907 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they do that < 1251839913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English is a parasite, feeding off other languages < 1251839914 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sandwhich table sounds all right to me < 1251839918 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Way better, at least < 1251839923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I guess because we invented the concept < 1251839933 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw. GOD I LOVE FOOD AT IKEA < 1251839941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, iirc they loaned gravad lax too... but for once put it into *one* word < 1251839948 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine ate swedish meatballs when he was in the States < 1251839950 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lax lax lax < 1251839950 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At IKEA < 1251839951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it is Swedish that writes words together instead < 1251839952 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finns have had it as long as the Swedes, I think < 1251839961 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 lax < 1251839967 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :` lax < 1251839968 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1251839975 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1251839981 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that kind of grave accent < 1251839986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, gravadlax ... doesn't that look weird? < 1251840004 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks written together < 1251840013 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:graavilohi < 1251840019 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ravioli? < 1251840020 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravioli? < 1251840021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, iirc that is how they do it. Unlike Swedish.. for once < 1251840031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ravioli is from it: right? < 1251840036 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251840038 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is pizza < 1251840042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of pasta? < 1251840044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1251840045 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm happy we didn't invent a word for it < 1251840073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, iirc norwegian translated broadcasting to "kringkastning". Not sure what the Swedish word is in fact < 1251840101 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me I'm hungry < 1251840120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, no you are Polish, not from hungry :P < 1251840123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bad pun!) < 1251840152 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungary < 1251840158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yeah < 1251840167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was what made the pun so bad < 1251840171 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from hungry" doesn't make sense < 1251840179 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you could spell out the country name :P < 1251840184 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1251840187 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :broadcasting... < 1251840194 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sända? < 1251840205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, that is en:send right? < 1251840210 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251840221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, it would be more like sänd till alla < 1251840226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sound weird < 1251840227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251840231 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :radio < 1251840231 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To transmit a message or signal via radio waves or electronic means < 1251840231 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : sända < 1251840231 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :direktsända < 1251840235 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says tyda.se < 1251840240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyda.se? < 1251840244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what that is
< 1251840245 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translation thingie < 1251840248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251840251 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyda < 1251840252 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in < 1251840255 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To.. understand? < 1251840256 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh < 1251840257 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A URL, obviously < 1251840258 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1251840260 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah < 1251840269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tyda: to interpret < 1251840279 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fi: tulkita) < 1251840280 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, yeah, better translation < 1251840290 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251840291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, direktsändning would be live broadcasting then? < 1251840295 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1251840299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or why did you mention it above < 1251840313 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, the site did < 1251840316 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1251840321 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Referring to an interpreter as "tydare" would look strange < 1251840332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, tolk? < 1251840339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1251840342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fi:tulkki) < 1251840342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be translator < 1251840357 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tolk would me more like compiler < 1251840359 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, tolk = en:interpreter < 1251840363 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1251840369 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1251840370 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:tulkki = en:interpreter in the context of computers as well < 1251840376 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure about se:tolk there < 1251840417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firehm < 1251840432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a course for this < 1251840436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check the course name < 1251840441 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot , < 1251840446 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the "hm" < 1251840450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251840458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, actually, tab inserts , and space < 1251840473 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no it does not < 1251840473 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1251840484 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it inserts : and space < 1251840494 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the settings of your client, pretty much < 1251840495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, .................... stop being silly..... depends on client of course < 1251840496 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer , to : < 1251840500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure :D < 1251840511 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want my tab to autocomplete with only nick < 1251840516 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always < 1251840519 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's how I havet it < 1251840522 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have* < 1251840531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, unless at start of line it just completes with space :P < 1251840537 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251840547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly FireFly <-- like that, was just f a few times < 1251840566 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam: spam spam spam spam spam spam spam < 1251840579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, :) < 1251840585 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sausage < 1251840588 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacon < 1251840589 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam < 1251840595 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbam < 1251840612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck oru.se.... needs to be www.oru.se < 1251840708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Datateknik C, Kompilatorer och interpretatorer, 7,5 högskolepoäng, valbar* < 1251840708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251840733 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Örebro < 1251840734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the context of computers, at least in that course name it is not "tolk" < 1251840737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yes? < 1251840754 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thinking loudly < 1251840764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, :P < 1251840784 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's relatively central, right? < 1251840789 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. in central sweden < 1251840789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, eh? < 1251840792 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horizontal-wise < 1251840804 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1251840808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, google maps? < 1251840809 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1251840810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google earth < 1251840828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, anyway a bit south of stockholm in the N/S direction < 1251840845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and near the middle in the E/W direction < 1251840849 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251840864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, need to read up on geography :P < 1251840874 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know my geography sucks :< < 1251840901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, so where is Kiruna? < 1251840909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :north or south... < 1251840911 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...north :P < 1251840914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... of the polar circle < 1251840916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251840917 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1251840930 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :North of the northern whateverthoselinesonthemaparecalled < 1251840931 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1251840940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whateverthoselinesonthemaparecalled <-- err? < 1251840952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on therma ???" < 1251840959 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot the names of the lines < 1251840960 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the map < 1251840970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251840979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well polarcirkel in Swedish < 1251840985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1251840999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, North or south of Narvik? < 1251841008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about relative Gällivari? (spelling?) < 1251841010 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narvik... I think I've heard of it < 1251841025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, yeah in norway < 1251841052 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I don't really know, as I said my geography isn't really good :P < 1251841053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, iron ore mines in Kirnua you know? Sent by train to Narvik, then taken away with ships < 1251841059 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1251841061 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1251841074 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I was in Abisko a few years ago < 1251841078 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last summer, IIRC < 1251841084 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I should know this better, I guess :P < 1251841093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :narvik is north of Kiruna < 1251841100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(time was out) < 1251841104 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"." < 1251841120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, also I was in Kiruna this summer. Never went quite as far north as Abisko < 1251841155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, btw where is Göteborg relative Stockholm? < 1251841160 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :South < 1251841163 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N/S wise, that is < 1251841164 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1251841169 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, west :P < 1251841170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"of course"? < 1251841176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251841178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that of course < 1251841193 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can take it granted that I know that Göteborg is on the western coast of Sweden :P < 1251841194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, jönköping relative göteborg? < 1251841203 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly east? < 1251841209 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1251841212 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit... south? < 1251841216 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not a lot < 1251841223 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my guess < 1251841235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, not a lot in that case, on this map I just double checked on it looked at the same level < 1251841263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly slightly north, but not sure < 1251841284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, where is Ekeby? < 1251841284 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, I though they were pretty leveled < 1251841287 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no idea < 1251841302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, trick question. There are lots of places named ekeby :P < 1251841321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google earth pops up 9. and I see two ones missing there at least < 1251843194 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ö < 1251843388 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251843448 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251843760 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251845339 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric