< 1253318421 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the things listed there don't necessarily happen all the time. Like, the part about the water and the "fix you with a hungry stare" don't necessarily apply if it is the result of a transformation. < 1253318428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's reassuring! < 1253318615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night -> < 1253318745 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They is a mixed of cristacean, insect, and serpent. They have claws, and yes there is tentacles in their mouth. But mostly I selected this one there is STR 20, but other things can help too, speed size attack armor class, type "Large Aberration (Aquatic)". You do not have to live only in the water. < 1253318772 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to push over an altar, actually. (I thought something we were looking for was underneath the altar) < 1253318772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00:16 Like, you mean just smash everything? < 1253318773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:00:44 Yes. < 1253318773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1253318783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some inbetween comments elided for humour) < 1253318792 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, we didn't find that, but we did found three plain silver rings. < 1253318853 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One NPC said "We need to find the sword in here to return it to the king, now, where is it hidden?" I say, "Well, obviously it is underneath the altar. We just need to move the altar." < 1253318911 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother had some good ideas too, his character is a human ninja, and he decided to go to ethereal plane to see where is the door of the castle, to see if it is in the ethereal plane. It is half-way in, I don't know why. < 1253318930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see into the material plane from the ethereal < 1253318935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not interact with it < 1253318948 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I know all the rules about the ethereal plane. < 1253318967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, castles are generally useless if ethereal ttravel exists < 1253318980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's the food on the ethereal plane? < 1253318984 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, something strange happened, the castle is half way into the ethereal plane and half way into the material plane, which is a bit weird. However, dimension dooring into the castle it is just like normal inside < 1253318986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't any, IIRC < 1253318986 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1253318987 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253318987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly empty < 1253319003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The travel better be damn quick or I'll stick to first class. < 1253319005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D&D castle-makers rarely take the physics of the world into account... < 1253319125 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, ninja can go to ethereal plane for one round, just by a special ability. < 1253319132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sof unny. < 1253319134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*so funny < 1253319454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8259154.stm < 1253319495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I know that one already < 1253319496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the BBC are trying to punish set top boxes based on Linux by encrypting the programming list for their HD content since it's illegal to encrypt the content... < 1253319500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's more complicated than the article makes it < 1253319512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if the BBC say they're doing something I'm sure they are :P < 1253319801 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253320354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:44:27 "Something else you should know is that they are also very honest people whereas you rarely won't get any lies from them because of their honesty." < 1253320354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading the article Dating People With Aspergers, I see < 1253320480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very hard for someone with Asperger's to understand that a lie might be the best course of action < 1253320532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was commenting on the awkwardness of the grammar; I just googled it to find the source and found it amusing < 1253320558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that has an incorrect double negative, I think < 1253320566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mean "rarely will" or "mostly won't" < 1253320588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although fwiw if asperger's does actually refer to one atomic, well-defined condition and my tentative diagnosis of it by a professional is correct (both of which I doubt) then I find the sentence to be bullshit < 1253320630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like saying they're more principled/ethical and would avoid lying in almost all cases would probably be more accurate < 1253320633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagosing asperger's is hard < 1253320648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've been diagnosed with it too; most of this channel probably has < 1253320678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been diagnosed with it as something officially delivered to me, just almost-certainly-probably but I'm fairly sure there'll be a medical record somewhere denoting "Aspergers". < 1253320721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me that society was looking for a way to go "there, all the nerds actually do have something wrong with them", found the work of Asperger and warped and muddied its definition sufficiently to work. < 1253320762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1253320772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of Asperger's diagnoses has gone up massively recently < 1253320782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's an increase in misdiagnoses, rather than an increase in the syndrome < 1253320793 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Asperger, too. < 1253320840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for a sufficiently wide definition of recently I agree < 1253320847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the order of decades < 1253320853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1253320902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that with some of the definitions that go around, you need Asperger's Syndrome to be any good at programming < 1253320905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't read the original work but I doubt it says anything like "anyone intelligent, focused on one subject and socially reclusive has a different brain structure" < 1253320912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: agreed < 1253320934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one thing I do find interesting is that one of the "symptoms" is being unusually annoyed by high-pitch noises < 1253320946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ridiculous < 1253320947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that would have no obvious correlation to the other commonly-stated traits, yet it's ture of me < 1253320951 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*true of me < 1253320958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything it follows from being attentive < 1253320963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having good senses < 1253320980 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If you are on, can you do something compiling a program for me? < 1253320985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, even more annoying than the professional misdiagnoses are when people self-diagnose it < 1253321005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's easy enough to get yourself professionally diagnosed with a meaningless label, you don't have to do it yourself... < 1253321006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find I'm normally pretty good at detecting people who other people would diagnose as Asperger's < 1253321021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster and zzo38, for instance, are pretty obvious candidates to have the meaningless label in question applied to them < 1253321024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you, I'm not so sure < 1253321039 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how do I write a idea to ImageMagick? I have a few suggestions for their software. < 1253321045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's probably more obvious in person < 1253321053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Don't; try telling the GraphicsMagick folk. < 1253321069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ImageMagick seems a bit dormant, development-wise. Well, GraphicsMagick appears more community-oriented, anyway. < 1253321073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a fork of ImageMagick.) < 1253321109 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it have all of the new features of ImageMagick? < 1253321158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actively developed. < 1253321170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably have different syntax or mechanisms, but it's likely. < 1253321187 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I read the FAQ, so I can see those things, but not everything. < 1253321208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the rest can be emulated with the existing features. < 1253321275 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some ideas I have is, built-in FFT (instead of requiring external), support for loading/saving audio file formats, support more options for raw formats, and support formatted text rendering with masks and bold and stuff like MSE has. < 1253321288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Built-in FFT, aka slow FFT. < 1253321314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audio file formats are probably outside of the project's scope, and I'm not sure they'd make a change that effectively requires them to rename... but it would be fun. < 1253321323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Text rendering; doesn't it have that? < 1253321402 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has text rendering, but you can't put formatting codes inside of the text. Also it doesn't support some features similar to MSE, such as symbol-font and masking where the text goes, etc. < 1253321421 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For audio file, it can just load the left channel into the red channel and right channel into the green channel. < 1253321422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In-band formatting is maybe not very good. < 1253321433 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "slow Fast Fourier Transform" is sort-of an oxymoron < 1253321437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know what you mean < 1253321444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: -text 'foo' -bold 'bar' is easier to e.g. pass user-input variables to than -text 'foo \bold{bar}'. < 1253321447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know of sox? < 1253321453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like ImageMagick but for audio files < 1253321457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sox can't do things like sin(x), can it? < 1253321460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a converter. < 1253321474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I used it to remove mains hum from my recordings < 1253321476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back ages ago < 1253321480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has lots of other transform commands like that < 1253321482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that using a mathematical expression? < 1253321484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much like ImageMagick does for images < 1253321497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't using an expression, it was using a generic filter command < 1253321499 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can do a lot of audio processing with ImageMagick already, but only with raw files. < 1253321505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1253321506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:40:42 imconvert -size 84622x1 -depth 8 r:- -channel R -fx "p{i+20*sin(i/50),j}" r:- < 1253321509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it do that? < 1253321553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, adding a sine wave to an image is equivalent to adding a constant tone to a sound < 1253321560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1253321566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does sox have such a thing? < 1253321572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm checking the man page now < 1253321594 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure sox has many things, but that isn't completely the point. Some things do work better with ImageMagick, anyways. < 1253321611 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command-line I put was for flangering effects, is one thing < 1253321641 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, some other effects are also useful on sound file, blur, normalize, brightness, contrast, saturation, etc < 1253321652 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of the effects in ImageMagick are useful to sound files. But some isn't < 1253321664 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFT is especially useful with sound-file < 1253321668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a neat abstraction. < 1253321669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1253321681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Some Haskell-user types use this as a toy representation of an image: < 1253321687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Image = Float -> Float -> Colour < 1253321698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, an image is a function taking two floats and returning an RGB colour. < 1253321708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or double instead of float. Whatever. < 1253321712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real of some kind. < 1253321713 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1253321715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, sox has a "synth" feature that lets you add tones to a sound < 1253321715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the interesting thing is, < 1253321717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is continuous < 1253321726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so each pixel has infinite subpixels; 0 and 1 has 0.5, 0.25 etc < 1253321734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so an image can have an arbitrary amount of detail < 1253321746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to turn it into an actual image file, you sample it at 0,1,2 or 0,0.5,1,1.5 < 1253321751 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a "flanger" effect that does flanging without you having to work out the maths < 1253321751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever depth you want < 1253321759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the image gets bigger in pixel size as you sample more, and more detailed < 1253321763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the question I ask you is, < 1253321772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can we apply this to audio, using the audio-as-image idea? < 1253321781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually fractal audio sounds fun < 1253321801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you'd do it to the fourier transform of the audio, rather than to the time-domain sound < 1253321806 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For audio, just make it one-dimensional instead of two-dimensional, and it can work < 1253321807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1253321819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it'd be fun composing for such a thing < 1253321825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exploring music in more detail by slowing it down < 1253321828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be exactly the same, using the inputs as duration and frequency and the output as intensity < 1253321831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sampling more) < 1253321845 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some music programs actually use a similar view for editing music < 1253321850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's simplified < 1253321864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often called "matrix view" or something like that < 1253321881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing with the function-as-images thing is that it's totally lossless editing on bitmaps < 1253321882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but generally they don't draw the overtones to simplify matters, whereas they should < 1253321885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., you can do scaling < 1253321891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never have blocked up pixels or lose any information < 1253321909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like that don't map to the real world, but you can use it as an intermediate form and I find it very interesting < 1253322274 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ImageMagick does have FFT, but it is not built-in and it requires external program < 1253322331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because the external program is better at it. < 1253322334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, maybe patents? < 1253322342 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If audio format would be supported in ImageMagick, you would use the DPI operator for sample rates < 1253322482 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFTW is now licensed by GNU GPL. < 1253322551 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1253323035 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1253323242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: patent != license < 1253323248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if they linked with FFTW, they'd have to use the GPL license < 1253323264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is impossible: they would have to get all contributors, ever, to agree to it; plus the GPL sucks < 1253323468 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I know. < 1253323574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1253323586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: consider that a good FFT is a whole projectful's work < 1253323588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's quite understandable < 1253323611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were using Linux, you could get an FFT program in one command :-P ...well, assuming your distro would include a package manager. < 1253323632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, bad FFTs are pretty easy to write < 1253323646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also bad < 1253323653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I get annoyed at people using "FFT" when they mean "Fourier transform"; the FFT is just one relatively common algorithm to do that < 1253323678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'll do it just to annoy you! < 1253323739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, Emacs' GUI menus really need a redesign... < 1253323764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could be quite useful for not-common-enough-to-remember-but-common-enough-that-searching-is-a-pain tasks and also keybinding discovery, but they're worse than useless as-is < 1253323804 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the Magic Set Editor codes for rendering text, can it be made with just C instead of C++, though? < 1253323837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you asking the magic set editor team to recode it or just whether it's possible? < 1253323844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the former, that's unlikely; if the latter, almost certainly < 1253323874 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just so I can make it in C, in a separate utility. Some of the other codes I can also use, but I want to use it in C instead of C++ < 1253323915 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some codes in Magic Set Editor I want to take from there, I can make a program licensed by GNU GPL, and make a command-line program with some similar function, but not all. Because I want to make it differently < 1253323941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a surprise. < 1253324456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiver me timbers! it's that day again! < 1253324488 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many things I just don't like about MSE, but I would like to render the card in a similar way, but with different input formats and different way of many other things, too < 1253324531 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how many of these codes worked, I look at many of them right now. < 1253325158 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I get a library to do rendering with this text and fonts (including formatting), which can be used in a C program? < 1253325320 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253325598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, Leopard has a built in hidden preference thing to make it use the Tiger resources. < 1253325604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1253325637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, you can even mix-and-match: I have a Tiger-style window with the Leopard-style window buttons. < 1253325644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, close/minimize/optimize. < 1253325665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Leopard button/etc widgets, I think. < 1253325671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the pinstripe background and windw border/shadow. < 1253325707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also a Leopard window with the Tiger window buttons, which is just ugly. < 1253325869 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253325905 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, if I want to make this render card, maybe I can just use ImageMagick to render the text. But I would need to make up a file to count the size of each characters in the font. < 1253325925 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just use ImageMagick to render everything. < 1253325947 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253326400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1253326490 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.237.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253326507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the menu this is amusingly working. < 1253326597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also right-click menus. < 1253326946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this is actually working enough to bother keeping, though. < 1253327458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll put this back. < 1253328004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometime. < 1253328311 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253328326 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed the stroker.gb game, but can you contribute 40 more levels to make 256 in total, to make it complete? < 1253328334 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked on the other IRC, too. < 1253328703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1253329286 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253329852 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please, can someone add more levels to this game? Which channel(s) is better to ask? < 1253330005 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253331154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me... < 1253331160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ubuntu.ly/images/tutorials/2009/ubuntu-hedgehog2.png < 1253331160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.arstechnica.com/assets/2009/03/ubuntu904-b1-thumb-640xauto-4004.png < 1253331168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or has Ubuntu become uglier over time? < 1253331180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :U bet u < 1253331201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One day, oerjan will say something that isn't a pun. :P < 1253331288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, srsly. < 1253331502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on an Internet accountability program for Linux. The idea is to log the websites you visit, then periodically e-mail that log so someone else. It also writes a log entry when it is shutdown. < 1253331502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—Ubuntu Christian Edition forum < 1253331548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"God tells me not to murder people or bad things will happen, so I don't." < 1253331563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The program tells me not to go to porn sites or bad things will happen, so I don't." < 1253331855 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people avoid sex for religious reasons, if eir parents aren't forcing it on em? I mean, it's absurd to say that God would be angry at all these teens having sex, and if God doesn't care, what's the point? < 1253331877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's absurd to say that, but no more than the rest of the bible. < 1253331901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the bible say it? If not, does our church say it? If so, then it is so. < 1253331926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: Bible clause has exemptions, such as things our church says are metaphorical or things we think are metaphorical or just want to ignore right now. < 1253333594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't suppose you know if it's possible to boot up the Ubuntu install CD telling it not to play the startup sound? < 1253333617 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plug in some headphones < 1253333638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that'll be quiet enough :P < 1253333649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's plan b, yes < 1253336596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, unetbootin isn't available for os x < 1253336611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can't plug headphones into a CD burner :P) < 1253338178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: about the headphones, you could use a headphone plug with nothing attached to it to make sure < 1253338186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1253338189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will that work? < 1253338193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we actually have one at home, and it does < 1253338195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it'd default < 1253338198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, on a pc, at least < 1253338201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that os < 1253338211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the headphone detection doesn't have anything to do with the OS or the headphones themselves < 1253338219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, it's done by seeing if the headphone jack closes a circuit < 1253338235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one more piece of metal inside the headphone socket than is needed for a connection < 1253338248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's purely mechanical whether sound's directed to the headphones or speakers < 1253338251 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombgirl < 1253338254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even electronic! < 1253338269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1253338291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, anyone know how to .iso → USB stick if I can't use unetbootin? < 1253338467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... /me is spoiled by preemptive multitasking < 1253338473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1253338476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when I was writing 16-bit Windows programs, it was all cooperative < 1253338485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Windows, at any rate < 1253338510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so tight infinite loops crashed the computer until I could break out with control-alt-delete < 1253338579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a Yield() system call but I never used it < 1253338590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was deprecated when windows 3.1 came out, at any rate < 1253338597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead, it was all about the message loop < 1253338602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thutu-style multitasking < 1253339283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this usb drive has a switch thing that's magnetic; the usb slot retracts if you push it one way < 1253339285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question is < 1253339289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the fuck do I get this thing out? < 1253339309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds unnecessarily complex for a USB drive < 1253339312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have no idea < 1253339341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a gimmick < 1253339348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the magneticism is keeping it in < 1253339372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't switch the opener < 1253339437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1253339595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1253339658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: even applying as much force as possible just pulling it won't come out < 1253339665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a button? < 1253339670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, just the slider, as I said < 1253339692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the slider is the same component as the usb plug? < 1253339708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-gb&q=sandisk+cruzer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 < 1253339720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the image below "shopping results"? (took out mouse to try and get to the drive) < 1253339732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing, if you slide the knob to the other end, retracts the plug thing < 1253339736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except i can't seem to < 1253339778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the issue is that it won't slide atm < 1253339787 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about doing something with it other than sliding, like pushing on it? < 1253339789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if you're meant to take it out that way < 1253339792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's at the very end < 1253339881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing itself comes out one bit but then goes back if you leave go < 1253339882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tiny bit < 1253339887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it works magnetically < 1253340026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1253340087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should open the imac and extract it :P < 1253340103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't care if it didn't have a light on the switcher that fades in and out constantly < 1253340497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's stuck in your laptop? < 1253340514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm curious as to what lead you to the impression that it's a laptop this is stuck in < 1253340517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, err, yes < 1253340520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's clearly incorrect < 1253340530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand it might have been confusing not knowing that :P < 1253340541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably it's because desktops are rather large and clunky things to stick USB sticks into < 1253340543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nothing I said implies that, but yes, correct that it is incorrect < 1253340545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed < 1253340552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it beats a noisy cd < 1253340559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not NFS? < 1253340564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what? < 1253340567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was having this discussion with AnMaster a while ago, actually) < 1253340575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the answer is, it depends on what you're trying to do < 1253340583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :install ubuntu < 1253340587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was trying to argue that USB sticks had largely replaced CDs
< 1253340591 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1253340601 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only mostly, not largely < 1253340601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: for the savvy. < 1253340609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: largely's less than mostly, IMO < 1253340621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1253340641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be fine with leaving this stick in for now, but I'd like to get it out later < 1253340674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a really silly idea, have you tried using a software eject command on it? < 1253340685 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much the same way you can eject CDs from software? < 1253340687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1253340691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I unmounted it first. < 1253340693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity < 1253340705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it only detects unmounts from Windows? < 1253340719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be ridiculous, but not entirely implausible < 1253340721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is largely largely less than mostly, or mostly larger, that's the question < 1253340753 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: power down and wait until the internal battery dies < 1253340763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :power down what, exactly? < 1253340768 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer < 1253340770 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're assuming electromagnet there < 1253340774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that achieve at all? < 1253340777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's a permanent magnet? < 1253340784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magnet is just that the switch thing < 1253340786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snaps to each side < 1253340801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual mechanism is just that the plug is mounted on the switch thing < 1253340809 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no permanent magnet of that strength would be found in consumer electronics < 1253340814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a rather obvious way to make something retractable... < 1253340828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're on crack, the thing worked before i ever put it in a computer < 1253340828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you'd be surprised < 1253340831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop the magnet thing, guyz < 1253340835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that < 1253340838 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1253340839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're often used to tune TVs, for instance < 1253340846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRT TVs, that is < 1253340855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use permanent magnets as well as electromagnetism to help steer the beam < 1253340874 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRT TVs are no longer consumer electronics :P < 1253340909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I use a black and white CRT TV from the stone age < 1253340924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I got it second-hand from a velociraptor who crafted it out of the original spare rib < 1253340936 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: both our TVs at home are CRT, although we threw the black-and-white one out ages ago < 1253340938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and plug it into my hand-crank Analytical Engine laptop < 1253340953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we couldn't find an easy way to get one with an integrated VHS recorder otherwise < 1253340963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, integrated < 1253340963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my parents don't really understand recording technologies more advanced than VHS < 1253340964 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1253340966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like schmintergrated < 1253340968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor separate ones < 1253340975 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a PVR is easier than VHS :/ < 1253340980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: VHS recording is actually a bitch imo < 1253340989 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not really on the integrated versions < 1253340989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interface sucks to set time, and the "magic codes" rarely work < 1253340993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you press the record button, it records < 1253341001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean recording on a timer? they don't normally do that < 1253341001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: unless you want to record a program on at 4am < 1253341003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you know, < 1253341012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything not on right now < 1253341015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the usual method of accomplishing that in this family seems to be staying up until 4am < 1253341020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that works < 1253341026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then hitting record and going to bed? < 1253341028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1253341031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1253341038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the VCR rewinds and ejects once the tape ends < 1253341053 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ironically, I do know how to work the timer, but rarely use it) < 1253341059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then, I haven't recorded anything for months anyway) < 1253341089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure torrents are at least an order of a magnitude easier to use than a VCR timer < 1253341098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and torrents aren't even very simple... < 1253341158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like tivo is probably easier, but also more locked-down < 1253341162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... does Visual Studio run in Wine? < 1253341169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly not < 1253341172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sort-of wondering what the free versions are like < 1253341181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used a paid version at University, it was just generically annoying < 1253341186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I switched to the command-line version instead < 1253341202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cl.exe isn't really that bad, it's hard to really mess up the interface of a command-line compiler < 1253341211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a well-polished vi keybindings type thing for visual studio < 1253341214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably makes it nicer < 1253341231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a big commercial thing, not just a 10-line open source addon that adds three commands and no combining) < 1253341250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codekana.com/ is also quite cool-looking due to its ability to parse invalid code < 1253341258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but visual studio just seems like Too Much < 1253341453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You are now leaving Wikia. Please click here to continue, or wait 10 seconds to be redirected. < 1253341457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... on an otherwise blank screen < 1253341460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, wikia < 1253341461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate wikia. < 1253341463 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1253341466 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a brilliant idea! < 1253341469 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki* < 1253341475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ...what? < 1253341483 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki* is generally bad < 1253341489 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or *wiki < 1253341493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you're not serious are you? < 1253341509 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely. Do you know the amount of time I have spent reading random articles on Wikipedia? < 1253341511 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a menace < 1253341517 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost as bad as TVTropes < 1253341528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: fuck you, i was all prepared to be all holier-than-thou :P < 1253341534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go and ruin my rage! < 1253341607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh anyone want to .iso this usb stick :| < 1253341779 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... any reason a CD must be ISO format? Why not just dd off the stick? < 1253341787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION founded a wiki on wikia.. back before they went evil
< 1253341794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: .iso → USB < 1253341807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.iso ubuntu 9.04 → usb sticky stick < 1253341814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unetbootin would be the thing < 1253341820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses qt4, but windows/linux binaries only < 1253341826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm way too lazy to compile it < 1253341942 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: format the stick, copy the disk over, then set up grub on it? < 1253341956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use grub, just syslinux < 1253341973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sure, that would work, added to todo as "last resort". < 1253341993 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not grub? < 1253342062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it won't work? i don't know this shit, i just know it's true < 1253342100 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work from a USB stick? < 1253342107 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine from a USB harddisk for me < 1253342133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffffffffffffffff < 1253342135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even knw < 1253342136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :know < 1253342155 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you appear to have sprung a leak < 1253342180 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253342594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/ ;; .........ffffffffffffffffffff < 1253342600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you dmm < 1253342648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was rather bad today < 1253342657 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yesterday) < 1253342672 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I hate him now too :( < 1253342682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's stab him < 1253342695 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he invented Piet, so all's good < 1253342701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's on the run from death already < 1253342752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2425.html < 1253342758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :death by time < 1253342798 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that rather be death _to_ time? < 1253342903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're all death by < 1253342911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: death by being time < 1253342926 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, possibly, perhaps < 1253343406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, who wants to get this usb working < 1253343407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1253343557 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you < 1253343564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your mom < 1253343754 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, pretty sure she's asleep < 1253343913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she dreams about usb ubuntu install cds < 1253343916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all night. < 1253344129 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... she never complains about nightmares < 1253344634 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253345003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1253345223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1253347199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1253347200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1253347329 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1253347400 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1253347438 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@LRouen-152-83-15-79.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253348441 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253348487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253349143 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253352768 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@83.197.99.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253355723 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-93-72.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253356107 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1253356464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what was that about ejecting usb stick about? < 1253356490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm not entirely sure; ehird seems to have mechanical problems with his < 1253356545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, he must be weak if he can't pull out an usb stick! < 1253356562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there's some sort of weird magnetic lock thing < 1253356563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1253356608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that locks onto what? the plastic of the computer? < 1253356621 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure of the details < 1253356637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that seems too silly to be true < 1253356645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :video or it didn't happen < 1253356651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253356660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1253358613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1253362321 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253369695 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253369897 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253370080 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253371218 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253371287 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253375038 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1253375424 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Arrr! IWC! < 1253375450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, agreed < 1253377885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1253378966 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253379260 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@LRouen-152-83-15-79.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253380407 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-160-121-235.range86-160.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253384771 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1253384786 0 :Elench!n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253384845 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1253384858 0 :Elench!n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253385401 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253388396 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253390227 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1253391207 0 :bsmntbombgirl!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1253391848 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253392985 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253393569 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253393770 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-20-254.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253394899 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253394967 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253395613 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253397784 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@LRouen-152-83-15-79.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253397830 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253397990 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1253400107 0 :jix!n=jix@188-193-95-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1253400495 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1253400791 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-115-205.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253401502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253402030 0 :impomatic!n=nds@client-82-26-24-88.winn.adsl.virgin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253402042 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1253402082 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253402244 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1253403608 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1253403810 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253404169 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.73.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253404361 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253404459 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric