00:21:03 -!- adam_d has quit (Read error: 148 (No route to host)). 00:46:21 -!- oerjan has joined. 00:50:58 -!- Azstal has joined. 01:03:59 -!- coppro has joined. 01:06:33 -!- Asztal has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 01:07:06 -!- augur has joined. 01:15:53 * ehird submits login form 01:16:01 ? [OK] [Cancel] 01:16:09 (except without the ?, just wanted to show it was a dialog box) 01:16:17 or was it yes/no? 01:16:19 don't recall 01:16:37 Get On With It! 01:20:03 That's why applications used by (l)users that show dialogs should have feature that logs for each dialog box: Who got it, When, what was the title, what was the message, what were the choices, what choice user made and how long it took for user to decide. :-> 01:20:30 -!- coppro has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:22:34 Ilari: Or just not pop up empty dialog boxes :P 01:23:57 Ah, the ultimate "dilemma dialog"... Dialog box with no text and two buttons, "Yes" and "No". 01:24:07 Yes, that's what Epiphany gave me. 01:24:09 Ilari: Also, wouldn't that be better displayed by repeating the dialog box with the chosen option in the push-down state and the unchosen option greyed out? 01:24:22 Same with any checkboxes on it, etc. 01:26:35 Ilari: In fact, why not just constantly capture a video of the screen? :P 01:28:31 ehird: Would take too much space. 01:28:44 Ilari: How big is your disk? 01:30:05 ehird: This is old and crappy computer: 39 036 692KiB FS total space. 01:31:21 -!- augur has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 01:31:41 `calc 39 036 692 kilobytes in gigabytes 01:31:42 www.ngindex.com/browsegroup.php?groupid=150 - [15]Cached - [16]Similar 01:31:49 `calc 39036692 kilobytes in gigabytes 01:31:50 39 036 692 kilobytes = 37.2282906 gigabytes 01:31:56 Ilari: ouch. 01:32:06 Yeah. Ouch. 01:32:35 RAM size is quite "ouch" as well... 01:38:05 Unfortunately, buying new computer isn't just going to large deparment store and buying something... At least not if you at all care what you get... 01:44:28 Buying a ThinkPad and plugging a monitor into it is probably the easies/cheapest way to get a good prebuilt computer :P 01:44:48 Yuck. Laptops. 01:45:10 Doesn't exactly matter if you plug in a monitor and peripherals. 01:45:26 Well... Let's just say that "prebuilt" is not an absolute requirement... 01:45:34 Of course, I was just responding to that line. 01:46:08 But really, it's not exactly hard... you only need a handful of components and the choice is usually clear. 01:48:14 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 01:48:15 -!- ineiros has quit (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 01:48:15 -!- Gregor has quit (hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 01:48:21 Case, PSU, CPU, Memory, Motherboard, optical drive, HDD, Video card (if you care about video performance or motherboard has no video controller), NIC (again if not integrated), FDD (if one really wants one)... Anything else? 01:48:43 Ah, sound card (if not integrated). 01:49:24 Forget video card, NIC and FDD: get a motherboard with those integrated (Nvidia for the graphics, due to having the best Linux performance and good performance in general) and who uses floppy (although it's a $5 affair) 01:49:41 So case, PSU, CPU, memory, mobo, optical, drive, maybe floppy drive. 01:51:40 newegg is the thing to find what to buy, although not to actually buy unless you're in the US... but there isn't much actual choosing to do: optical drives are pretty much the same unless you're talking pricey. 01:51:56 Same with cases above a minimum baseline, unless you care a lot about noise levels. 01:52:14 So there's pretty much five choices to make, and they're mainly based on budget... 01:52:30 Probably best to start with motherboards, then that constrains memory/CPU... 01:52:35 Yeah. 01:52:46 Ilari: although the best thing to decide is AMD or Intel imo 01:53:00 but that basically comes down to budget 01:53:23 Some serious old-school, but I would really like PS/2 input ports and VGA output... :-) 01:53:34 Every mobo has that, except maybe VGA. 01:53:44 You could also get PS/2 adapters, unless you really hit more than six keys at once. 01:54:08 Mobo is pretty constrained, though, as there aren't all that many desktop mobos with Nvidia graphics. 01:54:17 Less than ATI, I'd say. Although I'm not sure there. 01:54:55 More "ouch" from this computer: current X graphics driver: fb. 01:55:06 Ilari: Holy shit. 01:56:40 As far as CPUs go it's pretty simple... AMD if you're on a budget, otherwise a Core 2 Duo, or a Quad if you care about performance, or a Core i7 if you *really* care about performance and have infinite money... 01:56:41 And it isn't going to be gaming setup. So I don't think graphics performance is that important. Stability is. 01:57:01 nvidia drivers for linux are the second most stable to intel, but the Intel drivers are really, really, really bad 01:57:28 probably slower than your fb there 01:58:47 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 01:58:47 -!- ineiros has joined. 01:58:47 -!- Gregor has joined. 01:58:54 Hmm, I said five choices, but PSU is pretty much "get the highest-rated ~300-350W in your budget" unless you have a beefy CPU... 02:00:08 And then CPUs and therefore motherboards aren't choices either, being primarily budget-based... and cases don't matter as long as they're not plastic crap... and memory is basically DDR2 vs DDR3, and since DDR2 is cheaper and most cpus/mobos don't support DDR3... 02:00:14 So the only choice is the drive. 02:00:30 If one can get kernel-level framebuffer, then one could configure X to use fb. That should get crappy drivers out of hotpath... :-/ 02:01:05 Ilari: The proprietary Nvidia drivers are pretty much rock-solid, being used by a huge portion of Linux users. 02:01:28 Although if I wouldn't accept any proprietary software at all, I'd get an Intel card and deal with the slowness... 02:01:53 ...but then I'd also use that funky non-free-stuff extracted kernel, as that's about as non-free 02:05:34 Heh... I just thought about video driver stability: "What could posibly go wrong with vesafb" (not many video cards support that but)... Since in normal operation it essentially is device that just exports mapping of I/O memory. :-> 02:09:05 Probably a lot. 02:09:26 But it's nice to have speed greater than a tortoise. 02:12:55 Ilari: I think you'd like that splitting window manager for the linux console I found a while back :-P 02:14:14 Not enough charcters. Fullscreen Xterm is 212 by 76 characters. 02:14:29 Ilari: You can have framebuffer consoles. 02:14:39 and this was what the "screenshots" given used, I think 02:17:55 -!- Slereah has joined. 02:28:07 -!- puzzlet has joined. 02:28:55 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 02:33:49 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:37:38 Solution for Evince PDF-in-browser with mozplugger displaying the menu: change evince to evince --preview. 02:37:57 Kittens and bunnies will fly out of your nose. Also a rainbow. 02:41:31 sounds painful 02:54:28 Two downsides of mozplugger+Evince: 02:54:37 With preview mode, at least, in Epiphany a new window flashes for a split second. 02:54:59 Also, it sucks up all your keybindings so you can't go back or close the window or anything... which *really* sucks. 03:01:00 Why oh why do crazy people want a calendar integrated to their email client? 03:01:02 Different. things! 03:01:07 *Things 03:17:31 -!- coppro has joined. 03:25:43 -!- augur has joined. 03:36:46 so 03:36:46 guys 03:36:57 have you seen the brief intro to the haskell "object" language? 03:37:22 eh? 03:37:44 in attempting to optimize the ghc, the ghc people invented this language beneath haskell 03:37:48 its a sort of minimalist haskell 03:37:53 with only like 7 core operations 03:37:57 and with multi-lambdas 03:38:36 that genuinely take multiple values as arguments (without returning a lambda to do so) and return multiple values 03:38:47 and its like impossible to read. lol 03:41:17 is this something new or just the old ghc core or g-machine thing? 03:41:24 i think its new 03:41:29 i cannot recall anything about multiple _returns_ 03:41:39 its not a multiple return in HASKELL 03:41:45 but rather in the intermediate language 03:41:59 in the stg-machine, silly 03:42:10 maybe, i dont know. 03:42:11 i browsed a paper on it once 03:42:14 i forget what they called this. 03:42:19 theres a video out recently about it tho 03:42:22 lots of <>'s 03:42:32 spineless tagless g-machine was the old version at some point 03:42:53 but it's probably been changed to unrecognizability years ago 03:43:06 oh an xml thing? 03:43:35 no. 03:43:48 <> is the equivalent of () in c-like languages 03:43:54 its sort of an argument tuple 03:43:56 but not a data structure. 03:44:01 so like a lambda of no args is 03:44:13 \<> -> ... 03:44:24 a lambda of one arg \ -> ... 03:44:25 etc. 03:44:31 and you apply it similarly 03:44:39 f = \<> -> 5; f <> 03:44:52 f = \ -> 5; f <10> 03:47:30 and because haskell is lazy 03:47:43 all haskell function arguments are effectively thunks 03:47:49 and are implemented thusly 03:48:14 uh 03:48:17 i'm pretty sure that is Core. 03:48:22 so in the intermediate language, something like haskell type Int -> Int would become (<> -> Int) -> (<> -> Int) 03:48:27 so they have ANOTHER bracketting convention 03:48:30 also, are you really educating us on haskell? come on now. 03:48:32 that <> -> x is just {x} 03:48:42 so the whole intermediate language is impossible to read 03:48:50 <({Int},{Int})> 03:49:18 ~ <(<> -> Int, <> -> Int)> 03:49:20 i guess 03:49:44 ~ just (Int, Int) ? or something. 03:49:59 or maybe its <{({Int},{Int})}> 03:50:01 i dont even know man 03:50:03 god 03:50:07 ehird: Core is much more readable than what he's proposing. Core is nearly a subset of Haskell... 03:50:08 it was confusion 03:50:17 s/proposing/discussing/ 03:50:18 He's not proposing anything. 03:50:32 and they do all sorts of weird things like having all functions really be wrappers for these 03:50:33 so like 03:51:06 f = \x -> \y -> x+y has a lifted version defined f' = \ -> x+y 03:51:13 and the normal version defined in terms of it 03:51:15 f = \x -> 03:51:33 f = \x -> \y -> f' 03:52:09 which lets them do all sorts of weird optimizations like any thing you see f 1 2 the compiler just replaces that with the simpler f' 1 2 03:52:12 or whatever 03:52:28 but 03:52:42 the language itself has only like 7 core operations. which is interesting. 03:52:56 everything else is defined in terms of those 03:52:56 Shrug. 03:53:08 http://www.vimeo.com/6688091 03:53:09 augur: This is almost certainly not GHC's underlying form. 03:53:14 ehird: it is now! 03:53:23 GHC compiles to C-- before machine code. C-- is *far* richer in semantics. 03:53:37 This lesser-semantic version almost certainly doesn't optimise better. 03:53:39 augur: in what version? 03:53:39 right, well 03:53:40 CVS? 03:53:49 this might be intermediate between GHC and C-- even 03:53:57 No, that's Core. 03:53:59 i dont know, just watch the video. 03:54:02 Which is also semantically much richer. 03:54:08 Does it work without audio? 03:54:12 eh 03:54:30 Uh, how long is this thing? 03:54:40 half an hour maybe? 03:54:41 augur: that video is a proposal 03:54:46 not something accepted 03:54:49 look at the introduction 03:55:09 im pretty sure he said its what theyre moving towards presently. 03:55:45 maybe its not fully implemented in the standard builds and such 03:55:55 probably isnt 03:55:59 but whatever 03:56:05 thats irrelevant to the point 03:56:09 which is 03:56:10 so is your mom 03:56:12 this shit is craaaazy 03:56:12 and we don't diss her 03:56:16 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP 03:56:36 check out the video tho dude 03:56:37 its cool 03:56:59 some people are borderline ADHD, so am I 03:57:09 except it's the border at the other side 03:57:27 i have trouble paying attention to music videos! 03:57:28 DHDA? 03:57:32 lol 03:57:40 gimme a text transcript and I might read it in spurts :P 04:09:08 im off to code, read, then sleep 04:09:09 see ya 04:11:46 augur's OS is single-tasking. 04:11:51 what 04:13:15 you can't code and irc simultaneously :P 04:13:38 im sick 04:13:40 and extraordinarily tired 04:13:41 so no 04:13:42 i cant 04:14:19 :P 04:27:49 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 04:39:18 -!- Azstal has quit (Connection timed out). 04:40:42 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 04:50:36 Anyone know how to make evince always use continuous mode? 05:55:36 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 06:02:05 -!- Warrigal_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:02:11 -!- deschutron has joined. 06:02:15 -!- Warrigal has joined. 06:18:28 asdf 06:20:07 Hey, r.e.s. is wiking again. 06:22:26 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BitBitJump&diff=next&oldid=15588 06:22:27 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BitBitJump&diff=next&oldid=15696 06:22:32 seems Oleg has an attitude problem. 06:24:44 -!- kar8nga has joined. 06:28:19 -!- FireFly has joined. 06:31:56 http://www.hungry.com/old-hungry/products/gwp/gwp-screenshot-30-10-1998.png ;; jesus christ 06:48:08 -!- kar8nga has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:55:40 áºžo, Unicode haÃŸ had a uÃŸeful character for capitalising ÃŸnakes since 2008: áºž, capital ÃŸ. 06:55:50 *ßsnakeß 06:55:54 *capitalißing 06:57:42 "From addressing point of view BitBitJump is in the same category as Subleq or any microprocessor assembly language. If I understand correctly, you say that the language is TC given the word size enough (and memory) for an algorithm, but not TC if the memory or the word size is finite. That would be true for any TC language with limited memory. However, to make a language TC, as I mentioned above, you do not need infinite memory inside the abstract machine 06:57:42 . The pragmatics of the language (or environment) can be changed so, that it can provide enough external memory to realize a particular algorithm." 06:57:44 Argh, the stupid burns. 07:06:04 is it just me, or are spreadsheets like an unstructured combination of a mathematical environment and a record-keeping environment, with the former being forced into columns and rows because it wouldn't work otherwise? 07:06:10 clearly we need an esoteric spreadsheet 07:06:31 all the features are specially tuned to let you use the bizarre equations, and to dissuade all record keeping 07:11:12 ehird: or using triangular cells. 07:11:27 lifthrasiir: ooh, how about circular? then you can have infinite cells 07:11:31 covering up the tiny holes 07:11:41 zooming spreadsheet interface 07:11:56 and at the end it stores both formula (=code) and data in the one sheet, just like funge 07:12:51 so if i recall correctly someone made excel implementation of funge (or orthogonal, whichever)... right? 07:15:14 in funge, you mean? 07:15:16 prolly. 07:15:19 er 07:15:22 oh i see 07:15:29 lifthrasiir: an implementation in VBA macros you mean? 07:15:46 ah yes. of course VBA is required. 07:15:57 meh, that's just a visual basic implementation then 07:16:18 spreadsheets are quite pure mathematically, but I don't know if they're a very good model for actual things... 07:16:28 which is why an esoteric one would be fun 07:17:08 in my opinion spreadsheets are just like RDBMS. there are tasks suitable for RDBMS (and thus spreadsheets) and tasks not suitable for them. 07:17:50 you mean they are like RDBMS or they are like RDBMS in their suitability? 07:17:58 the former. 07:18:20 i don't think they are like RDBMS at all: a spreadsheet is fundamentally a 2-dimensional vector of equations operating on the vector 07:18:25 obviously spreadsheet lacks general JOINability, but that doesn't make much difference 07:18:33 and depending on those elements they use 07:18:35 thus the updating 07:18:45 RDBMSs are far more static 07:18:50 they don't have that dependency-based calculation 07:19:33 that'd be alternative to JOINs... 07:19:48 hmm 07:20:34 ah i don't argue that spreadsheet can be translated to (or back from) RDBMS of course. :) 07:20:42 i just don't think they're similar :) 07:21:01 i mean as far as a 2d grid of numbers goes, sure, but that's totally not what spreadsheets are about 07:21:03 i just want to point out some similarities. 07:21:18 true 07:37:47 -!- oerjan has joined. 07:42:33 hi oerjan 07:42:44 hi ehird 07:42:57 stay away from Oleg, i fear some kind of chain reaction... 07:45:01 oerjan: howso? 07:45:05 i'm interested now :) 07:45:11 oh, attitude? 07:45:22 :) 07:45:23 i'm not passive-aggressive, I'm just a dick 07:45:58 do you know why he reverted those changes (one of them yours), btw? 07:46:02 i mean, no edit summary 07:46:10 um when was that 07:46:21 asdf 07:46:22 Hey, r.e.s. is wiking again. 07:46:22 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BitBitJump&diff=next&oldid=15588 07:46:22 http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=BitBitJump&diff=next&oldid=15696 07:46:22 seems Oleg has an attitude problem. 07:46:29 this month. 07:51:57 well it's caught up in that whole discussion 07:54:24 does it have finite size address? 07:55:49 it could be made infinite (see my first couple talk page comments) but it would be incompatible with the finite size versions 07:56:27 lifthrasiir: see current page. 07:56:30 it's not tc. 07:56:42 basically without that assembler stuff you cannot possibly make bitsize-insensitive programs 07:56:46 ooh, then it certainly cannot be TC. he seems not understand the concepts... 07:56:57 well not obviously anyway 07:57:42 -!- FireFly has quit ("Later"). 07:58:11 -!- adam_d has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:01:51 -!- adam_d has quit (Client Quit). 08:03:36 -!- ehird has quit ("gnop"). 08:21:21 -!- ehird has joined. 08:43:15 -!- ehird has quit ("gnop"). 08:45:49 -!- ehird has joined. 08:50:45 -!- ehird has quit (Client Quit). 08:51:00 -!- ehird has joined. 08:55:26 -!- fadeout has joined. 08:56:53 hi fadeout 08:56:57 haven't seen your name around here before 08:56:58 new? 08:57:08 indeed 08:57:45 presumably for the programming languages and not the magick, considering your channels 08:58:00 (the latter of which, contrary to popular opinion, we do not engage in. most of the time.) 08:58:56 well, new to ubuntu linux, not so new to irc, though its been a long time since ive been on 08:59:13 the ubuntu channel got me on here, now im bored and looking for interesting channels 08:59:31 heh, how did the ubuntu channel get you here? 09:00:02 the help 09:00:16 huh? where do they mention us? 09:00:38 oh, that channel didnt get me to esoteric 09:01:17 ah :) 09:01:22 i got to this channel via browsing the channel list (which isnt too extensive on this server) and "esoteric" caught my attn. even at this hour most channels are quit 09:01:24 quiet 09:01:33 we are fine purveyors, yada yada yada, of esoteric programming languages http://esolangs.org/ 09:01:35 well, some of the time. 09:01:43 technically this channel is about everything BUT esolangs. 09:01:54 ah, programming 09:02:02 yes :P 09:02:11 Freenode is a technology server, after all. 09:02:29 anyway, ubuntu is good. hi. 09:02:56 ya ive noticed 09:03:01 hello 09:03:19 esoteric programming, thats a new one for me 09:03:28 ever heard of Brainfuck? 09:03:29 though i know esoteric and programming 09:03:31 just not together 09:03:45 INTERCAL? Unlambda? 09:03:50 negative 09:03:53 Ook? 09:03:55 Chef? 09:03:56 Piet? 09:04:11 hehe negative 09:04:16 im a newb 09:04:17 mwahaha, a virgin. sacrifice ten goats. 09:04:49 anyway, the topic (said by a bot) is a pretty good summation of what we aim for in a language. if it's useful, it's probably bad, and if it's weird, it's good. but preferably novel. 09:05:23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck might help. 09:05:32 (being the most popular esolang) 09:05:57 wow this is ironic 09:06:10 howso 09:07:09 sigh... no scrollback due to forgetting to quit my irc client at home before going to university today 09:07:16 AnMaster: just read the logs. 09:07:30 ehird, guess what I'm doing? :P 09:07:37 ive just been in conversation with peeps the last few days about career evaluation and how i should have gotten into programming in the first place. What you just said about the summation is right up my alley 09:07:37 complaining :) 09:07:40 timing is crazy 09:07:58 alas there are no companies yet dedicated to esolangs 09:08:04 yet 09:08:11 well fizzie ostensibly got a job based on Befunge, if you stretch reality a lot 09:08:13 i spose 09:08:39 well fizzie ostensibly got a job based on Befunge, if you stretch reality a lot <-- huh? I must have missed that 09:09:08 the interviewer asked about "Befunge" being listed on his resume and was semi-interested. 09:09:11 ehird: It's just a matter of perspective. If I choose to believe the Befunge-related conversation during the job interview was what got me hired, who's going to say no. 09:09:19 ==> Befunge = fizzie job! 09:09:26 fizzie: GOD 09:09:28 God will say no. 09:09:31 fizzie, well you work at an university, so plausible! 09:09:37 AnMaster: Oh, it wasn't this job. 09:09:40 oh ok 09:09:44 AnMaster: The Befunge job was actually at Nokia. 09:10:05 aha! that explains my phone 09:10:06 I could go for a mobile with Befunge built in. 09:10:08 AnMaster: ha 09:10:18 "They have so many legacy Befunge systems there, they wanted someone who speaks the language." 09:10:30 +$,26~@k 09:10:32 heh 09:10:36 46#81,++-q 09:10:40 ehird, is that supposed to make sense? 09:10:43 any of those I mean 09:10:47 I speak Befunge! 09:11:06 ehird, well, I can read it pretty fast and I can tell those doesn't make a lot of sense 09:11:15 Yeah, I can't actually code in Befunge. 09:12:05 -!- Rugxulo has joined. 09:12:19 ^echo ehird 09:12:20 ehird ehird 09:12:34 I wonder where that animation comes from. 09:12:35 * Rugxulo learned some stuff about mmap() despite being *nix-ignorant 09:12:45 ehird, what animation? 09:12:57 Rugxulo, mmap is quite wonderful IMO 09:13:06 Uh, a Compiz thing with the OSD notifications used to fade I think. Maybe. 09:13:10 well ... I hear that not all *nixes support it 09:13:15 it's not POSIX, right? 09:13:18 Rugxulo: yes it is... 09:13:22 mmap is pretty much universal 09:13:24 also, some *nixes have buggy implementations 09:13:28 I have never seen a nix without mmap 09:13:31 ever 09:13:31 (that's what I read, anyways) 09:13:36 even crufty legacy implementations 09:13:42 Rugxulo: sounds like you're reading FUD :) 09:13:54 no, just quoting CWS (of CWSDPMI fame) 09:13:54 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 09:13:56 Rugxulo, it is optional in POSIX.1-2001 but required in POSIX.1-2008 09:14:28 anyways, DPMI 1.0 is said to be able to support it, but since that was (is) somewhat rare, nobody bothered 09:14:29 Rugxulo: a win/dos person is unlikely to be unbiased about nix stuff 09:14:35 even though DPMIONE is freeware now 09:14:38 but yeah, only DS9K type of *nix tends to lack it 09:14:59 someone ought to actually make a DS9K, it doesn't exist 09:15:04 just some aspects of some systems 09:15:06 not a total system 09:15:07 Rugxulo, what is DPMI supposed to be? 09:15:11 ehird, what about internix? 09:15:17 or whatever MS one was called 09:15:20 Interix. 09:15:24 right 09:15:27 is about as complete as cygwin. 09:15:31 hm ok 09:16:09 DPMI is the DOS-based interface for pmode / selectors / safe API for extended memory etc. (Win16, Win32, OS/2, DOSEMU, CWSDPMI, QDPMI, etc) 09:16:25 oh right that. But what has it got to do with *nix... 09:16:36 mmap() could be supported in DOS/DJGPP via DPMI 1.0 09:16:53 but that was too rare (only 386Max) "back in the day", so they never bothered 09:17:01 (DPMIONE is basically a freeware 386Max) 09:17:07 (same author) 09:17:31 I can't imagine anyone caring these days 09:17:40 besides me? :-) 09:18:06 Rugxulo, yeah 09:18:27 you should go use OS/2 too while you are at it! 09:18:57 don't tempt me ;-) 09:20:30 * Rugxulo wonders if Cfunge will require AVX soon :-P 09:21:10 Rugxulo, hm? It doesn't require any CPU specific features. It can optionally make use of SSE2, but apart from that it is up to the compiler 09:21:42 plus my desktop support up to SSE3, my laptop a bit more, but none with AVX 09:21:51 AVX isn't even out yet. 09:22:08 I know 09:22:08 ehird, right, it isn't as if I keep track of that 09:22:21 I was being facetious 09:22:22 Rugxulo: i was talking to AnMaster 09:22:23 iirc boch (sp?) implements AVX though 09:22:30 bochs. 09:22:34 right 09:23:59 Rugxulo, I even tested cfunge on PPC and SPARC (not recently though, only had access to those temporarily) 09:24:47