< 1254009671 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, its something that's just plain unimaginable for those that didn't live through it... :-> < 1254009706 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, just like the Wii. < 1254009844 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: you can't say that if you didn't, did you :P < 1254009852 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i wouldn't be surprised if you did) < 1254009982 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are things in world that one knows that are just plain unimaginable... They are so far from everyday experience that all mental approximations about them fail... < 1254010035 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really think that applies to WWII, although of course there are assumptions in that statement. < 1254010058 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being in any war is scary; you don't care if 10 other countries will be obliterated too if the threat is that yours might be. < 1254010224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1254010402 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, civilization failure level events are really scary (the end of the world as we know it)... < 1254010461 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop trying to shatter my illusion that society will be just fine in the ~70 years i have left. < 1254010470 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait, ~60 years < 1254010481 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe even 70 years, being young. < 1254010499 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, Haskell lets me manipulate floating point stuff easily < 1254010503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for that < 1254010505 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1254010507 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more than any language < 1254010547 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Prelude.html#t%3ARealFloat < 1254010552 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If civilization fails in wide enough area at once, the death toll is going to be HORRIBLE. Spanish flu caused a couple in remote areas. IIRC, 90% of population died in those cases. < 1254010561 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yah, every language has that dude. < 1254010579 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: become a hermit y/n < 1254010592 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-150.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1254010609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a function equivalent to decodeFloat in Python? < 1254010637 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a task for hardcore survivalists... I'm not one of those... :-) < 1254010642 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, this is not what I was expecting < 1254010687 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like civilisation mostly. < 1254010808 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i was wrong, there is a t30 < 1254010820 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no t31+ < 1254010845 0 :sebbu3!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-64-7.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1254010872 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1254010873 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tendency seems to be that as technology processes, the safety margins in civilization shrink. And as consequence, civilization becomes more and more vulernable to unexpected external events. < 1254010879 0 :sebbu3!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1254010974 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :western civilisation seems to be happily bumbling along for quite a while now < 1254011197 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Global-level or even regional-level massive disturbances are rare. I was refering to magitude of those required for massive trouble decreasing... < 1254011234 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``yeah < 1254011235 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1254011235 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1254011240 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying that we've been lucky so far. < 1254011266 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You really think modern civilization wouldn't be in serious trouble with 1918-level pandemic? If that's not enough, what about black-deth level (and both have happened and mostly didn't take down civilization)? < 1254011278 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*black death < 1254011329 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254011355 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: Of course it'd be in trouble. < 1254011365 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just saying that we've had a continuous western society for a long time. < 1254011405 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254011606 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason those disasters are rare is because there aren't that many possible (known) causes for those. Severe pandemic, Supervolcano, Very powerful magnetic storm... < 1254011618 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...pirates... < 1254011754 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254011842 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last exceedingly powerful magnetic storm was year 1859. Auroras all the way to Hawaii. Telegraph systems getting fried by the energy coupling into wires. Wires spontaneously short-circuiting by excess voltage... < 1254011896 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a GHOST. < 1254011898 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ghost pirate. < 1254013438 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254013970 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-57-235.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1254014421 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254014950 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254016625 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254017808 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone even use Gib? < 1254017850 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 Gib = 128 MiB.) < 1254017873 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to Gb (gigabits), where 1 Gb = 119.2 MiB. < 1254018499 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1254018619 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1254018640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird_ < 1254018687 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1254018753 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1254018932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.somasuite.org/screenshot/somax11_2.png worst interface ever < 1254019242 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a calendar doing in there? < 1254019250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1254019329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1254019414 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000734.html < 1254019598 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"palinsesto" < 1254019724 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.250.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254019975 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: What the flying fuck? < 1254020010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the flying fuck: the worst cartoon character ever < 1254020013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i know right < 1254020019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something to do with music < 1254020054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle hilarious detail: there's a *whole menu* for NextSong < 1254020064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing can queue up songs so flexibly it needed a menu < 1254020118 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outstanding. < 1254020129 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, wait. < 1254020135 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That screenshot is on the site for that program?! < 1254020141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1254020149 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, this is what they think is a GOOD screenshot for the program? < 1254020188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that's the "SomaX" program though. their mere SomaPlayer is much simpler: http://www.somasuite.org/screenshot/soma_session.jpg < 1254020195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1254020211 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF?! < 1254020217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, their two architecture designs: < 1254020218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.somasuite.org/screenshot/somagrafico.png < 1254020222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.somasuite.org/screenshot/somagrafico2.png < 1254020228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you say astronomic complexity?! < 1254020255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the stick figure in the latter is more appropriate than they could possibly know < 1254020271 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their architecture design involves storming a castle. < 1254020281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a castle of complexity! < 1254020294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they forgot the dragon, also known as their UI. < 1254020306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be in front of the moat of lava, representing a moat of lava. < 1254020367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :related: < 1254020372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Seems to be perfect. * < 1254020373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/procmail/procmail-11/procmail/src/procmail.c < 1254020378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just click it and scroll, I dare you) < 1254020544 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that "Palinsesti" is the only untranslated word. < 1254020558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a horrible feeling it's not meant to be translated < 1254020566 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same 'ere. < 1254020575 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a word entirely unique to SomaX. < 1254020582 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :owowowowowow < 1254020583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they couldn't think of any other way to spice up the word "Listings" < 1254020588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they just translated it to italian. < 1254020598 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1254020606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your brand has to PENETRATE your users < 1254020611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's just a single feature. < 1254020633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the "Stop for:" < 1254020640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, just in case you want a few seconds or a few hours of silence. < 1254020657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or want to watch that YouTube video and then listen to music STRAIGHT AFTER. < 1254020712 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CANNOT TOLERATE A MILLISECOND OF SILENCE < 1254020728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ought to include an option to click the mouse button at a certain time < 1254020741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can just position your cursor over the youtube play button after setting up a silence < 1254020801 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERFECTION < 1254020832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how else will you laugh at the hilarity of that porn video immediately seguing into rick astley < 1254020913 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1254020925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS A CRUCIAL FEATURE < 1254020934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it should embed the video in the pane so you can see it happen < 1254020943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs a youtube downloader & viewer built in for this < 1254020947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait, we're inventing emacs here < 1254020952 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1254020967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :M-x play-youtube-video-then-play-audio-file < 1254020974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka C-x C-f g / s < 1254020999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the 5th most common emacs operation, after M-x find-integer-returning-functions-with-a-string-argument-and-replace-their-third-word-with-if < 1254021062 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this vague feeling you may not be entirely serious there < 1254021069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy. < 1254021103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I might be moving. what's up with that. < 1254021112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is: elephants. < 1254021116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elephants are up with that. < 1254021121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. you probably need exercise. < 1254021138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long." < 1254021179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if we are talking about moving elephants, then that might be a bit too much exercise. < 1254021253 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh if you are moving because of an elephant infestation, then why haven't i seen it in the news? < 1254021265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because norway is in a bubble < 1254021269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pøssibilities are endless < 1254021279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pøssibilities indeed. < 1254021286 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that ø was by accident but i decided to keep it) < 1254021298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask < 1254021302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, i erased then reentered it < 1254021306 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten years from now, of oerjan's son: (that ø was by accident but i decided to keep it) < 1254021320 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oerjan will name his son "ø", btw) < 1254021341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it'll be "bumble bumble at 48 i am so old i am practically collapsing with mental fog bumble bumble" < 1254021353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might not be wise, since it basically means "er" in norwegian < 1254021358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1254021363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What's your name?" "Er." < 1254021369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You don't your name?" "Yes I do!" < 1254021372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is it then?" "Er." < 1254021381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"..." "I told you! It's er!" < 1254021384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...whatever." < 1254021391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't know your < 1254021397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally the er. < 1254021432 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the chance of my having a son is somewhere below the chance of earth being hit by an asteroid. < 1254021447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/hit/destroyed/ < 1254021480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that body of literature we fed the singularity was mostly rape-based fanfiction. turns out you're the 7,302th smartest person alive. < 1254021506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not entirely sure how an AI has children, though < 1254021507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what? < 1254021514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't even know. < 1254021616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. < 1254022068 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1254022760 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 < 1254022771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old. :P < 1254022776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it's timeouting now. < 1254022804 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes Haskell had good use as a language to know for a career < 1254022835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it does, if you start your own company or work for e.g. Galois or Well-Typed < 1254022847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to sit in a cubicle following irrational demands from your incompetent boss, sure, it's useless < 1254022880 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, considering that I have no desire to be a manager... < 1254022904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo excels at non-sequiturs < 1254022928 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you want to sit in a cubicle following irrational demands from your incompetent boss" I'm not exactly going to be running a company any time soon < 1254022942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proceeding line: < 1254022943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: it does, if you start your own company or work for e.g. Galois or Well-Typed < 1254022964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter has absolutely no relation to your line, and the former - you can't exactly "manage" a startup with as many employees as are countable on your hand... < 1254022968 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You imply that Galois and Well-Typed does not have incompetant managers? < 1254022985 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't Galois die in a duel? < 1254023000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering Galois is dons + some people and use Haskell basically exclusively, and Well-Typed is a two-person Haskell consultancy firm, I'd say they're very competent < 1254023008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tinned_Tuna: yes < 1254023026 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a useless nugget of info from my equally useless head ;-) < 1254023028 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chance of me getting a job with Galois or Well-Typed = 0, then < 1254023029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'd say that Haskell is only useless for an easy but depressing career. < 1254023045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you want such a career, why bother souring your programming hobby by association? < 1254023085 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that on my resume, I can say I am proficient with $lang < 1254023096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-sequitur yet again. < 1254023101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either < 1254023120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) you want a non-soul-crushing programming career, i.e. joining a good company, which gives the possibility to use a language like Haskell, or founding a startup, < 1254023121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, < 1254023132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) you want a soul-crushing programming career in a big company in a boring language < 1254023145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if (b), then there are plenty similar jobs that don't make you sour your programming hobby by association with your job < 1254023167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any paths leading to "Haskell is totally useless for a career" are simply bad ones < 1254023196 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say Haskell is useless for some careers < 1254023206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how do I gain experience with a language used for (b) without making it part of my hobby programming? < 1254023207 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not all < 1254023224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you're talking incoherently < 1254023248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a soul-crushing bigcorp job in a boring programming language = you lose the will to program for fun < 1254023270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't wish to lose the will to program for run, either go for a decent programming job (= possibility of using Haskell or similar languages) or go for a non-programming job < 1254023276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially, (b) is the worst imaginable path < 1254023346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1254023353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1254024154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1254027869 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1254033022 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1254033502 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254033510 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254034554 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1254036082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at the topic and thinks #esoteric keeps sliding towards the other interpretation... < 1254036481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1254037080 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254037092 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think there is something wrong with the speaker in my computer < 1254037096 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I dropped the speaker by accident and now it is mixed up? < 1254037165 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254038155 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254038172 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sucks at chess and still beat the Befunge one < 1254038176 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1254038399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1254038400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1254038835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1254038849 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1254039012 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1254042254 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254042650 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bye" < 1254042667 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254043651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a chess computer in befunge? < 1254043666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or chess program I guess is a better term here < 1254044236 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! < 1254044240 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hes not here < 1254044241 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sad ::( < 1254045719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, morning < 1254045720 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: violet's lips moved silently. part of her was certain that the noise was as wrong as ii and ii making v. what shall we do now?' said < 1254045725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1254045726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1254045726 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld* europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1254045738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hah fungot < 1254045739 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: " well, you see, if all a human thinks about is gold, it told his fingers. < 1254045754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I fear that style didn't work out too well < 1254045781 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's true. < 1254045790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea why? < 1254045812 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Disoptimal parameters? Maybe I should try retraining with the varikn stuff. < 1254045865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "varikn"? < 1254045895 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing I added. < 1254045943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1254045965 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 23 < 1254045966 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23| Finally I have found some actually useful purpose for it. < 1254045967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discworld == "varikn"? < 1254045976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean the sound samples < 1254045980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1254045983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transcriptions < 1254045987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of convos < 1254045994 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean: http://varikn.forge.pascal-network.org/ < 1254046022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, variable gram size model thing < 1254046025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mentioned that too < 1254046031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what style used it? < 1254046059 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urrr, the "ct" style I think. But that's not directly comparable, since there was so little ct data. < 1254046073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1254046073 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1254046078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, talk to me < 1254046078 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: your majesty! and queen. he and a friend left on a journey 10. all functions are down... got the terra arm and the crisis arm! found a dreamstone?! then i'll repair the masamune! < 1254046101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh (yeah I have played a bit of that game since) < 1254046132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, why was it called crisis arm btw? < 1254046132 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... are you all right? of course! you were so young! you ran around saying " daddy! the children are going! < 1254046135 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The varikn model-trainer is the only one that's in the fungot repository, since I haven't managed to clean up the messy C++ code I used for the other styles. < 1254046135 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1254046161 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and our child, it's ancient history now". < 1254046175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, near immortal must have said it < 1254046213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also even though I played the game to near the end (haven't had time for the final boss yet, but finished all but one side quest)... < 1254046220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some stuff is not familiar < 1254046227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some stuff of course is but... < 1254046239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fungot messed it up a lot < 1254046239 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alone can't stop! that sword alon < 1254046242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arghj < 1254046243 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An¨¬s¶·Ÿ: we are looking to achieve a shorter life span... lavos will rule the world in a mere door that keeps us bound, hand, foot...and tongue kid? ...oh, it's you, isn't this morbid? the great adventurer toma levine rests in a grave to the north. it's a great place for a picnic! heard that magus's place... < 1254046250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1254046257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, was that second one supposed to happen < 1254046262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it buggy < 1254046263 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1254046272 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, "no, it was not supposed to happen". < 1254046278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1254046284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to debug I guess < 1254046285 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1254046307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thought that "An¨¬s¶·Ÿ:" seems like fspace corruption < 1254046337 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes; it was obviously "AnMaster:" first. < 1254046344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we are looking to achieve a shorter life span..." < 1254046345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1254046349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the usual way < 1254046382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :#esoteric: we are looking to achieve a shorter life span... | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1254046465 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the later part was from: "That Gate leads to 1999 A.D... It leads to the "Day of Lavos"... Go there only if you're looking to achieve a shorter life span... Lavos will help you leave this mortal coil." < 1254046475 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what you get from the "bucket" in end of time. < 1254046480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1254046494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mortal coil"? < 1254046514 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"life", basically. < 1254046517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like translation failure < 1254046526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's an English idiom. < 1254046529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw the snes version differs quite a bit in translation from the DS version. < 1254046536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in phrasing and such < 1254046542 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Derived from 16th Century English, "coil" refers to tumults or troubles. Used idiomatically, the phrase means 'the bustle and turmoil of this mortal life.'" < 1254046549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1254046567 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's a new translation; but the SNES version wasn't really a badly broken one either. < 1254046575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's true < 1254046602 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What a beautiful day! The Black Omen sure sparkles in the sun! What a great day for laundry!" < 1254046608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DS one seems longer too < 1254046625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that sounds like the original yeah < 1254046625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wondered a bit about it < 1254046626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mistranslation? < 1254046647 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it's so hilarious it might even be pretty close to the original. < 1254046651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get very far in the DS version due to the DS emu I used sucking badly (very very poor framerate) < 1254046662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsnes just works of course < 1254046670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, anyway, any traces of how that bug with the bot above might have happened? < 1254046675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raw log or anything < 1254046675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DS-only quests are a bit boring. < 1254046748 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is the raw log, but it's not really that helpful: https://pastee.org/gypyw < 1254046856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the babble-generator wrote somewhere it shouldn't have, but it's pretty hard to reproduce, without a log of the random numbers involved in producing that sentence. < 1254046901 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-204.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1254047001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you call the "the"-form of a noun? It's "bestämd form" in Swedish, but I need the English term for it < 1254047019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same for the "a"/"an" form < 1254047047 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The" is called the "definite article", while a/an is the "indefinite article"; I'm not sure if it's just directly those for the noun too. < 1254047070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well in Swedish definite article is based on a suffix < 1254047082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I need to discuss a Swedish mistranslation in a bug report to a game here < 1254047103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well,* < 1254047172 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1254047707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I wonder if the bug in the bot is reproducible btw < 1254047723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or if it is a cfunge bug. hm < 1254047728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fungot messed it up a lot < 1254047728 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in the middle ages, sir slush!... i grow so tired. we can talk. we no can call you " knight cyrus fell while protecting our kingdom from magus. i'd stay away! < 1254047730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1254047741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was worth a try though < 1254047792 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's a fungot bug, the text generation is pretty messy. < 1254047792 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there! there it is! but by the time we're through with you, you'll be in danger. open hatch. < 1254047826 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Don't you start threatening me. And what hatch? < 1254047826 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the real queen's safe, right! right. wrong! please return, you will some day! the black wind... < 1254047842 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like talking to a wall. < 1254047846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the text from the snes or DS version? < 1254047853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNES version, I think. < 1254047896 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be wrong, though. It was just some fan-transcript from the web; hopefully extracted from the ROM, but I guess it's possible someone did it manually. < 1254047898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be interesting to base it on input. look pick a word in the input phrase and see if found and then start the text generation on that < 1254047904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something such < 1254047920 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254047929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, . < 1254047930 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there! there it is! but by the time we're through with you, you'll be in danger. open hatch. we must now carry out his sentence. hold your horses! i want to dance! ladeedadeeda! got some spending so much of his time doing research on lavos. but you have it...determination, i mean... < 1254047953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I do? < 1254047953 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now...! < 1254047965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, stop repeating yourself... < 1254047965 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1254047986 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it would, but it'd need a reverse mapping from text to tokens, which I don't have. < 1254047997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you need to go to an asylum I think... < 1254047997 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i see. you know, i really care... a time portal? what in the...! ozzie's stumped!! < 1254048069 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "he's really a tricycle" is pretty hilarious out-of-context like that. (Though the bot overuses it a bit.) < 1254048163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what was the contex t? < 1254048165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :context* < 1254048248 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from one of the endings; the one where Marle and Lucca are watching a slideshows. It's referring to THE MAN! of course. < 1254048275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1254048295 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mangahelpers.com/t/shrimpy/releases/12409 < 1254048362 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also notable for being probably the only place where Crono says something. < 1254049392 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254052189 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1254054072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, actually looking at that raw log from fungot makes it looks like the buffer wasn't properly cleared the first time < 1254054085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when could it overwrite the buffer with odd chars < 1254054303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ^ < 1254054406 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do use some of the input IRC message buffers as temporary storage when they're no longer needed. Nothing should really write to the actual SOCK 'R' buffer, from which it extracts newline-separated IRC messages. < 1254054425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1254054441 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's just a "should". < 1254054553 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use line 0 for reading in data; then I copy full newline-terminated messages out of it into line 3, then extract the message parts to lines 4-x (prefix, command, options); the message handlers then reuse line 3 for constructing the reply message, when a reply is needed. < 1254054646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1254054722 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess in most cases I have a constant 'p' offset, or at least a constant Y coordinate, which should make accidentally writing to wrong place pretty unlikely. But there might still be bugs. < 1254054921 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well; time for some outdoorsy things. → < 1254061993 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1254062064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol! <-- i think i haven't seen him in a while < 1254062246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, iwc < 1254062275 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: There is no such thing as iwc < 1254062286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1254062453 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yey, my interpreter works :-) < 1254062539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, one should never ask kyros rhetorical questions. < 1254062566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, agreed < 1254062600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that probably goes for several other characters too < 1254064016 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254066173 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nermal.org/misc/javascript.jpg < 1254066948 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254068811 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254070668 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-163-45-187.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254070774 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: heh < 1254071208 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254072438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://nermal.org/misc/javascript.jpg <-- huh < 1254072508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1254073801 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT1XuB95qMk&fmt=18 + headphones = awesome < 1254074014 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I am leaving. You are about to explode." < 1254074177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Exploded OK" < 1254074560 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254074621 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254076125 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254077164 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254082205 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254083177 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254083402 0 :Tinned_Tuna!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1254084171 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254084345 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is AnMaster's site always down? < 1254084349 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is he hosting from home? < 1254085399 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1254085418 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes hosting from home and his mom shuts off his computer when he falls asleep X3 < 1254085446 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254086050 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Panu should host more files at the Esolang archive (e.g. Bashfunge) so they aren't lost to the ages :-P < 1254087199 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-159-109-233.range86-159.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1254087344 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1254087978 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1254087981 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1254088088 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1254088289 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1254088682 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(belated) hi < 1254088733 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's not so belated that impomatic had already left < 1254088877 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite :-) < 1254089059 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254089071 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's new, impomatic? < 1254089077 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatcha been messin' with? < 1254089105 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, not much at the moment. I've been pretty lazy. < 1254089129 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I made a new website but that doesn't count as programming. < 1254089182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iRnW_PP9RtYpGgoc5KZiwY84hjrQD9AVNJ303 < 1254089227 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1254089730 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is already updated with it, heh < 1254090777 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://retrocode.blogspot.com" < 1254090930 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1254091399 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1254093277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1254093588 0 :Rugxulo!n=user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1254093595 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool link: http://shinh.skr.jp/obf/ < 1254093598 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)) < 1254095412 0 :_s_k_y_!n=Red@cpe-70-95-187-195.hawaii.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric