< 1255566180 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255567930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255568654 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255569398 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255569721 0 :jix!n=jix@g224145061.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255569770 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255575573 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255576565 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255578653 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255578793 0 :jix!n=jix@g224145061.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255581971 0 :pingveno!n=quassel@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255584005 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255584166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1255584738 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255584992 0 :pingveno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255589901 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255591543 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1255591686 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255593599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1255593600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1255593935 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255593985 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255593994 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1255595701 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.134.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255595756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zoop < 1255595758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1255595759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ZOOP < 1255596699 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255597374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1255597454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255597524 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255597560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1255597592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, a Firefox error I've never seen before < 1255597612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaspeth < 1255597615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wow, this is embarassing." "Firefox is having trouble recovering your windows and tabs. This is usually caused by a recently opened web page." < 1255597636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just clicked on "restore" a second time and it worked, though < 1255597647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought it was an amusing error message to find in production software < 1255597655 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was added in 3.5. < 1255597684 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does that here every time you make it crash and/or kill it without doing the normal "save and quit" thing. < 1255597703 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit misleading message in that it never has any trouble actually restoring the tabs. < 1255597746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is it with software trying to be all cutesy? < 1255597771 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1255597782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Chrome's crashed tab, but it's only a Macintosh homage if you notice it, and the only cutesy text is "Aw, Snap!" < 1255597785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what caused that one was attempting to suspend a computer < 1255597791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255597795 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :qmail gives this sort of fatal error message: < 1255597798 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at something.something.something.net. < 1255597798 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. < 1255597798 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out." < 1255597799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reacted by apparently shutting down immediately < 1255597804 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rebooted to a blank screen < 1255597805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I get that often < 1255597816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that occasionally; apparently Yahoo uses qmail < 1255597839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It annoys me because it's hard to pattern match the error from the loquacious text < 1255597846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhhhhhh I just said loquacious I am AWESOME < 1255597898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a horrible feeling when testing a qmail installation, which involves sending a known-to-bounce message; I would have so much liked to answer "really, it's okay, my fault: that message was supposed to bounce" but, well, you can't. < 1255597919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1255597927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You make me sad. < 1255597942 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sad email server makes me sad. < 1255598003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have just emailed another address that actually works so it could be happy and gleeful. < 1255598065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eek! Phone line people are here. < 1255598069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correction: Eek! People. < 1255598128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are going to install a surveillance microphone, so that the government can monitor your subversive activities. < 1255598133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255598148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, actually they're just installing a line or something. Or checking if they can. < 1255598163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose they'll need to see the scattered phone sockets around the house, so MY FORTRESS IS SAFE. < 1255598187 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital fortress. < 1255598227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I hear other people anything, I feel a slight twitch for MY HOLY FORTRESS. I think I have issues. < 1255599226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255599226 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@147.188.254.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255599544 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@212.183.134.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255599567 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird_ < 1255599572 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh, am I really on GPRS? It's like a nightmare... < 1255599573 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, an underscore convention < 1255599990 0 :ehird__!n=ehird@212.183.134.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255599996 0 :ehird__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, 3G oncee more. < 1255599998 0 :ehird__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*more < 1255600009 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523__ < 1255600009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1255600010 0 :ehird__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1255600013 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1255600017 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1255600025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tried to remove the extra underscores with /nick ehird
< 1255600030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, I need to pay more attention... < 1255600030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255600064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, back to fingering the circuit board for this key. < 1255600111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably slightly dangerous. < 1255600131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1255600143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's enough of a voltage in a keyboard to hurt you unless you really try < 1255600151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus "slightly". :P < 1255600154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. by wiring the internals directly up to the surface of your heart < 1255600160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1255600199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circuit boards aren't very tactile. < 1255602424 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-bclbbzuhucglkpou JOIN :#esoteric < 1255602466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MobileDeveloperTV has itself a Maemo-powered Nokia N900, and sure enough, it runs the full version of Google Wave." < 1255602472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pah, 2 jiggahurts phones. < 1255602475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Wave with my mind. < 1255603274 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telepathetically. < 1255603294 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N900 dropped the USB host mode support, then. < 1255603309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :option 2 is looking like a good one, it seems < 1255603320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the elisp finally turned up, apparently it needs human interaction as well < 1255603345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the plan's to use an evolutionary computing stage, which alternates between the computer evaluating the fitness function, and the human tweaking the input to get better output... < 1255603672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ... < 1255603675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell < 1255603684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaanyway < 1255603690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, TextEdit supports .odt < 1255603692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code apparently wasn't meant to be used by anyone else < 1255603694 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, in case ais523 didn't yet notice and still cares about the Sidekick conspiracy: "Microsoft recovers 'most, if not all' Sidekick customer data" < 1255603701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the support was ridiculously partial last I saw it < 1255603705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: link? < 1255603710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Possibly. Still. < 1255603716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If you link me to a fancy-shmancy odt I can try it. < 1255603716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still care about the conspiracy theories, because they're fun to read < 1255603717 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/?category.id=Sidekick < 1255603726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to see how the conspiracy theorists deal with this one < 1255603747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/15/microsoft-recovers-most-if-not-all-sidekick-customer-customer/ < 1255603754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less horrific than some random T-Mobile forum. < 1255603768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We have determined that the outage was caused by a system failure that created data loss in the core database and the back-up." < 1255603769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it's not a very useful article, but still. < 1255603775 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, that was the "read" link of that engadget article. < 1255603777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Sherlock! < 1255603782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how that's even possible...
< 1255603789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zombies. < 1255603799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, EtherPad can import from txt/html/doc/rtf. < 1255603800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neato. < 1255603804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now hwy can't it export as rtf? < 1255603807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why < 1255603811 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a strange /.-linked story: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10374831-2.html < 1255603841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1255603846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, this is quite a good result; most customers get their data back, and Microsoft still gets sued into oblivion for massive breach of contract < 1255603848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So everyone in Finland can have free one megabit internet? < 1255603856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "free" is included anywhere. < 1255603862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then how is it a right < 1255603871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about people who are totally broke? < 1255603900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"France's Constitutional Council ruled that Internet access is a basic human right." // i didn't realise anyone had gone that progressive yet < 1255603920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[But Finland's definition of "access" to broadband is a little fuzzy. According to the Helsinki Times when it reported the 100Mb target last year, the Finnish government said that no household "would be farther than 2 kilometers from a connection capable of delivering broadband Internet with a capacity of at least 100 megabits of data a second." It did say, though, that "about 2,000 (households) in far-flung corners of the country" wouldn't be included. < 1255603920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ostensibly, Finland plans to keep that same distribution when its 1Mb broadband access is implemented.]] < 1255603920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1255603945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems kind-of weird to have Internet access as a human right, when the Internet didn't even exist 100 years ago < 1255603948 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255603957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's age got to do with it? < 1255603963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't a right then because nobody used the internet. < 1255603988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :human rights strike me as the sort of things which always were needed and always will be < 1255604026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullshit. < 1255604051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a person needs for anything beyond raw survival has changed over the years. < 1255604067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, that definition falls hopelessly short; for example, nobody needs free speech to survive. < 1255604073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still a basic human right. < 1255604081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say "to survive" < 1255604108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, it makes sense to say that Internet access is the only practical way to achieve truly free speech nowadays, for instance < 1255604114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's different from making the Internet itself a right < 1255604116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a means, not an end < 1255604132 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The in-Finnish article has more details; the local regulatory body will designate a couple of tele-operators that are required to provide the service, and those companies need to provide that one megabit at a "reasonable" price to every permanent dwelling or company office. < 1255604139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to someone who rapidly avoids the web... < 1255604154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously IRC is not much of a necessity. < 1255604192 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also funny way of specifying the speed: you will have to get (on average) at least 75 % of the megabit during any 24-hour period, and at least 50 % during any 4-hour period. < 1255604566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really, really need window GC. < 1255604648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Android does something like that < 1255604661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps processes running in the background, and signals them to save and exit when they haven't been used for a while < 1255604935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever for stateless things like iPhone apps; could be a pain for IRC clients and their ilk, but I assume it can be disabled by an app. < 1255604954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't want them destroyed permanently, just put in a dated archive in case I really need them. < 1255604963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accumulate windows and tabs like crazy when browsing the web. < 1255604970 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android apps are supposed to be able to do that themselves < 1255604975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they're supposed to persist to disk then exit < 1255605030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that got to do with anything I've said? < 1255605098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mildly related < 1255605264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh, stupid BlogNomic moving the sidebar to the left < 1255605280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks.
< 1255605282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blognomic.com/archive/queries_and_notices/ needs someone like ehird yelling at them to explain why what they're doing is all a really bad idea < 1255605301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does look significantly more cluttered. Left sidebars can be done but not by wantonly moving things around... < 1255605336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. http://daringfireball.net/ pull off a left-aligned sidebar with lots and lots of whitespace... but BlogNomic looks terrible now. < 1255605349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, does Fitts' Law allow for the fact that it's easier to hit small targets near (but not at) the edge of the screen than it is to hit targets near the middle? (Of course, it's easier still to hit targets actually at the edge) < 1255605354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't help that they're still using that overly-minimal theme. < 1255605367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably; I'm not sure < 1255605377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only familiar with the most basic results of the law < 1255605407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BlogNomic IRC Channel | Alternate Link" < 1255605413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they linking to two web clients?! < 1255605419 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first's Java-based, IIRC < 1255605426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without even noting which to use in a situation... < 1255605430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the second one gets around firewalls < 1255605445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus guaranteeing either one of the links to be useless, or to annoy people by making them click both < 1255605458 0 :jix!n=jix@g224144229.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255605537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blognomic admins have too much of a tendency to mess with the software for the sake of messing with it < 1255605547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is strange, considering how rarely they do that with the ruleset < 1255605564 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255605596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Probably because Expression Engine has so many buttons. < 1255605612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're editing the HTML directly < 1255605618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, and the CSS < 1255605623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to? < 1255605673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ais523) < 1255605680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clicking buttons < 1255605688 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the implication I got from your comment < 1255605746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just meant that it's such an overly-customisable, overly-generic (Is it a blog engine? A user accounts framework for subapplications? A... thing? It's ExpressionEngine!) piece of software that nanturally all the little preferences just beg to be clicked around. < 1255605751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*naturally < 1255605759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the templates. < 1255605894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads a D&D version flamewar
< 1255605987 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, it's so futuristic: http://vimeo.com/6496886 < 1255606021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that thing. < 1255606032 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess siggraph was quite a while ago. < 1255606034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows only, though, so meh. < 1255606041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it a few days ago. < 1255606047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The demos are almost certainly tuned to work properly. < 1255606059 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but it makes for a fancy video. < 1255606079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't play D&D — do people just fight over 3v4 or are there crazy niche sect arguments about, I don't know, 1.5 revision 2 vs 3.4 draft 5? :D < 1255606101 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the major fight is 2v3v4 < 1255606107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fights within a version are very rare < 1255606122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. most people prefer 3.5 to 3.0, the only complaint was about having to buy the books twice < 1255606133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, there are probably still fans of 1 around < 1255606140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to ask. < 1255606167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less numerous than the others, though < 1255606196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a roguelike. < 1255606225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1255606272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have insane plans to write a roguelike as an Enigma level, but that'll take months and I don't have the time right now < 1255606273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I can write a simple one in a few hundred lines; some crappy floor generation, stupid enemies and a few items, plus portals to other floors. < 1255606276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus a few stats. < 1255606299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the hardest bit will probably be the IO. < 1255606301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ncurses etc.) < 1255606338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd make it graphical, but rendering ASCII graphics in a graphical window would be so silly. Also, probably harder than ncurses, even though it gives better with my personal preferences. < 1255606391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do curses first and write a tiles version later < 1255606397 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the UI pluggable < 1255606418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I will. But still, curses is a bitch. < 1255606432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe I should incorporate http://buttersafe.com/2008/09/25/cat-fight/ into the game mechanics. < 1255606440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really mind curses < 1255606443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow. < 1255606444 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the library, that is < 1255606449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what a stupid name...) < 1255606464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Curses: fuck that shit." < 1255606482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is swatted
< 1255606498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't make me break out the butterfly net < 1255606516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In case anyone doesn't want to bother loading that whole page: http://buttersafe.com/comics/2008-09-25-CatFight.jpg) < 1255606653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, someone's busy trying to argue about whether Batman would wear armour or not < 1255606661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1255606668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, by "graphical" I still meant the actual tiles would be textual. < 1255606669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's arguing not, on the basis that it wouldn't make any difference < 1255606673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But only because I'm lazy.) < 1255606685 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: actually, that's how DNA Maze works < 1255606693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I'd use a stock font, though. < 1255606694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it writes text by blitting the individual letters to the screen < 1255606697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :saves messing around with fonts < 1255606729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I was mainly meaning for the menus, buttons and easier cursor manipulation sort of thing. < 1255606742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the ability to hover an object's identification above it if you're near enough. < 1255606760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which you can do with text, sure, but it obscures stuff. With a semi-transparent, small font, only doable in a GUI, however...) < 1255606765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to add hover-farlook to my NetHack interface < 1255606775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hover-farlook? < 1255606780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hover something to see what it is < 1255606786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than having to use ; < 1255606787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1255606789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally, in text mode too < 1255606799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mine it would be automatic; just get within, say, 5x5 of it. < 1255606801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, it might need to click just because of how text-mode mouse detection works < 1255606805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I could have it appear above everything, since, you know, you could just ;. < 1255606877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I'm wondering about is a list of ambiguous monsters < 1255606886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if there are mind flayers and dwarf kings in a room < 1255606890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would underline, say, the mind flayers < 1255606901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a key saying h mind flayer \ h dwarf king < 1255606915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, game mechanic: There is a cat, labelled so. You attack it. It turns out to be a brick cat (and thus it hurts you a little) and its label now reflects this. You can pick up the brick cat, and put it on an activator thing that you'd normally put a stone on. < 1255606928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, you can keep kicking it until you die.) < 1255606943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like a reverse cockatrice < 1255606946 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you touch it, and it turns to stone < 1255606965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it *was* stone all along, you just didn't know that. < 1255606978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose picking it up without attacking it first should give you some luck points or something. < 1255606988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Doing that to an actual cat enemy would presumably result in damage.) < 1255607021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that sort of thing already happens in NetHack < 1255607029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can try to move onto a cat to pick it up, using m and the cat's direction < 1255607040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll get "You move right into the cat", or whatever, and lose your turn < 1255607045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1255607047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the cat will get a chance to attack you < 1255607070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case it'd be that you can pick up a brick cat because, well, it's just brick. But trying to pick up an angry cat's just gonna result in scratches. < 1255607085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, picking up every cat you see in the hopes that it'll be made out of brick is unlikely to pay off... < 1255607094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of hero can't distinguish a brick from a cat? < 1255607106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://buttersafe.com/comics/2008-09-25-CatFight.jpg < 1255607112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could happen to you! < 1255607167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that AngBand has a mechanic like this, where , could indicate a door, a mushroom (item), or a mushroom (monster) < 1255607169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Angband < 1255607182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, NetHack has given me an intrinsic urge to CamelCase all roguelike-related proper nouns < 1255607220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly my final boss should have the same tile as the floor. < 1255607231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, slightly less ridiculously, the weakest, most common enemy in the game.) < 1255607236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one of those in at least one Angband variant too < 1255607257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but IMO, anything that provokes paranoid farlooking is a bad idea < 1255607270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it would have to also look like the floor if you tried to find out what it was remotely < 1255607273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'd know when you get to the end boss, anyway. < 1255607278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, it would. < 1255607285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd also have no transparent-identification-text. < 1255607296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There'd be no actual look command.) < 1255607302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's equivalent to an invisible boss, really. < 1255607315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that can't be seen with see invisible < 1255607322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1255607420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should be fun. < 1255607422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I can keep the UI code I write for later, more substantial games.) < 1255607441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tempted to go the graphical route right now for those shiny identification labels. < 1255607461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in 7 days < 1255607466 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and post it as a 7-day roguelike < 1255607473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want me to keep up a whole project for 7 days?! < 1255607474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-p < 1255607476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:-P < 1255607491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is annoying: there's a siren in the background, but I don't think it's the fire alarm < 1255607503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have stopped, anyway < 1255607504 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what /was/ that? < 1255607513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows. < 1255607530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I do wonder if it'd be worth releasing it; I doubt there are many OS X-using roguelike players. < 1255607560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not futzing about with cross-platform GUI libaries... And I can't do ncurses because, shiny labels! :< < 1255607633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Incidentally, is Rogue any good < 1255607636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/?/ < 1255607643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's rather primitive, but still a decent game < 1255607654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hack? < 1255607667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very similar to NetHack, but slightly more annoying < 1255607673 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with fewer things in, but you're unlikely to notice < 1255607681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you know a lot about NetHack < 1255607690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or get a long distance into both games < 1255607720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I have a meeting, I'm leaving for a while, probably about 2 hours < 1255607746 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a soft spot for Rogue, since it was probably among the first computer games I played. For some inexplicable reason, our I-think-it-was-a-286 had a copy installed. < 1255607791 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I remember, my first roguelike was Omega < 1255608111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255608508 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1255608875 0 :ais523!i=93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/x-tlhetqfgxebokwbw JOIN :#esoteric < 1255608960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises, while reading a comment from Jef Raskin on a website circa 2004, that he died a year later
< 1255608992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My life is filled with realisations! Also, neurons firing. < 1255609133 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255609156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ouch— then two comments later, "I wish I had taken the opportunity to apologize to Jef before he passed away. I didn't mean to offend him. It's a shame to see him go.") < 1255609561 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : actually, this is quite a good result; most customers get their data back, and Microsoft still gets sued into oblivion for massive breach of contract < 1255609576 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, don't make me actually feel sorry for microsoft here! < 1255609629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, that's impossible < 1255609636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel sorry for Microsoft's employees (collectively) < 1255609645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really for the corporate evil intelligence that's controlling them < 1255609648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I feel sorry for Microsoft! But only sometimes. < 1255609670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to read some more keyboard forum! < 1255609750 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how you'd go about creating a corporation type that _wasn't_ intrinsically psychopathic
< 1255609770 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's possible < 1255609773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, it should probably be done < 1255609791 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it requires solving the friendly AI problem first < 1255609794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalism is intrinsically psychopathic and sociopathic. < 1255609836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... is there an easy way to determine your own screen res? < 1255609837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um is there a difference between psychopathic and sociopathic? i thought the latter was just a bit more politically correct term... < 1255609846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Pretty sure there is. < 1255609877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems not. < 1255609880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sure there was a minor difference. < 1255609897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yeah. < 1255609898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In what OS? < 1255609906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes; JS exposes it. < 1255609913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: CentOS < 1255609920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNOME settings./ < 1255609921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*settings. < 1255609928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1255609933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pageresource.com/jscript/jscreen.htm < 1255609935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually the other way around < 1255609941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen.width < 1255609943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screen.height < 1255609943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :setings seem locked down < 1255609951 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sociopathy is no longer a correct term to use, and when it is used it actually refers to what is considered Antisocial Personality Disorder." < 1255609954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript:alert(screen.width+"x"+screen.height) < 1255609957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: javascript:alert(screen.width+"x"+screen.height) < 1255609972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems this is 1024x768 < 1255609973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think it was < 1255609977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldn't quite believe it < 1255609998 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, I grew up in an environment where 1024x768 was a lot < 1255610022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION receives a spam addressed to penguinmonkey@hotmail.com, penguinmouse@hotmail.com, penguinmuncher@msn.com, penguinn@live.com, penguinocanada@hotmail.com, penguinofdeath@msn.com, penguinofthegods@gmail.com, penguinoh@hotmail.com, and penguinonshromes@hotmail.com
< 1255610029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How strange. < 1255610043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Email itself is rather typical: "hey! just browsing people in my area im new here and saw your pic (youre totally cute and my type) add me on windowwslive messengor paris21tina@hotmail.com is my name on it, add me on it because i dont use email much. i have a built in cam on this new laptop i got so i can send you some photos of myself as well. ttys i hope! " < 1255610062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got another one with similarly penguin-related names from another name and a different address. < 1255610064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen spam like that before < 1255610066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam-reported-magick! < 1255610081 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Obviously you're not totally cute and her type! < 1255610083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would happen if you did add them on wlm? < 1255610098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think at least one of them is a he < 1255610102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd spam you there too? < 1255610105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Link to a password-grabbing site, I imagine < 1255610117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1255610124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "Click here to see my photos http://stealpassword.badlyforgedsite.photosmagicomg.com/totallyfrommicrosoft/youcangiveusyourmsndetails" < 1255610134 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if half the spammers in the world nowadays are doing it for fun, and don't have any idea how to profit from their spam < 1255610136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then spam other people with it. < 1255610151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the spambots which post random nonsense to wikis, without any URLs or anything like that < 1255610161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just testing whether they can be spammed easily, I think. < 1255610166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before selling the URLs. < 1255610218 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, interesting < 1255610231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses the voice saying "You now have number 78. Estimated waiting time is 50 minutes"
< 1255610258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sorry for the interruption. We have been receiving a large volume of requests from your network. To continue with your YouTube experience, please enter the verification code below." < 1255610262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit, it's a crazy 3G stick thing < 1255610269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("YouTube experience") < 1255610275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO TODAY < 1255610280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm so you are behind NAT? < 1255610286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1255610287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1255610289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1255610305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i have certainly received spam that looked like the recipients were part of an alphabetic list before... < 1255610310 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255610310 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255610316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't complain; I'm getting almost a megabit indoors in a village. < 1255610324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And only ~300ms latency. < 1255610326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on those email addresses, "her type" must equal penguins. < 1255610327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With no wires! < 1255610341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: hexham? or somewhere else? < 1255610347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird: i have certainly received spam that looked like the recipients were part of an alphabetic list before... <-- yeah that is quite common < 1255610349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I moved, yeah? < 1255610353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you get the memo? :P < 1255610359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm vaguely aware that you moved < 1255610362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how far, though < 1255610373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, less than five miles, probably? < 1255610374 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if the list is huge enough, it could certainly contain only penguins... < 1255610401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very close to Prudhoe, anyway. < 1255610409 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@kosh.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255610413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now you live somewhere I /haven't/ heard of < 1255610415 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the current part) < 1255610422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, I presume you were surprised I'd even heard of Hexham in the first place < 1255610437 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255610438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, iwc < 1255610456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Very easy way to find out: It's a small village near Prudhoe that shares all but the suffix of its name with a village right next to it. < 1255610470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like "Poopunt", "Pooplee".) < 1255610489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prudhoe? < 1255610493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely name < 1255610505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But it's almost "prude ho"! < 1255610520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lived in Prudhoe before Hexham, anyawy. < 1255610522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anyway < 1255610522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to me it looked more like "prod hoe" < 1255610528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pre-2004) < 1255610534 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1255610534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's pronounced "prud oh" < 1255610544 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@130.233.228.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255610546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Google Maps actually classes it as in Prudhoe < 1255610548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This village < 1255610549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh < 1255610573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, be happy it was a p and not a c at least < 1255610601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just checked; the village is 10 miles away from Hexham. < 1255610601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9.9, technically. < 1255610626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.3 miles away from Prudhoe. < 1255610655 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On one zoom level, there's a Ovington/Ovingham pair of labels that fill the criterion maybe. < 1255610667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that mile the one that is roughly 1.6 km? < 1255610671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ding! < 1255610672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Ovington. < 1255610676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I clearly mean nautical miles. < 1255610682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not < 1255610688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is a third option. < 1255610691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mile = 1.60 km. < 1255610695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish miles. Which are 10 km < 1255610705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How strange. < 1255610719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was more unlikely though < 1255610729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... < 1255610730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :metric miles in norway too < 1255610752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah then it isn't just Sweden that use that < 1255610754 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=prudhoe&sll=52.66972,-1.933594&sspn=25.669598,53.481445&ll=54.968654,-1.89777&spn=0.0059,0.013057&t=h&z=17 -- that's a tiny place. < 1255610755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Especially as I estimated it as <5miles. < 1255610758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah metric miles is a good name < 1255610769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather hard not to notice the difference between <50 miles and 100 miles. < 1255610786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nautical miles wasn't completely impossible though. < 1255610792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you *were* here when I moved; I wasn't more than an hour or so. < 1255610801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Well, I didn't go in a boat. < 1255610810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I think the verb had an accident there < 1255610827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1255610829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also nm is used for aviation too < 1255610832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What, Prudhoe? < 1255610837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Also, you *were* here when I moved; I wasn't [away] more than an hour or so." < 1255610841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prudhoe isn't tiny. < 1255610847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just small. < 1255610847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no not verb < 1255610849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1255610854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ovington* is tiny. < 1255610864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noun? "an away". no... < 1255610866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, what I said was valid. < 1255610870 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That link points to Ovington; at least it tries to point what google labels as that. < 1255610870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :away is an adjective. < 1255610876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, or is it? < 1255610878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know. < 1255610878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not adverb? < 1255610882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You linked to Prudhoe. < 1255610893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Ovington,+Prudhoe,+Northumberland,+UK&sll=54.968654,-1.89777&sspn=0.003597,0.007961&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Ovington,+Prudhoe,+Northumberland,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=13 < 1255610897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Ovington. < 1255610915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, not an adverb. < 1255610918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : That link points to Ovington; at least it tries to point what google labels as that. <-- no it pointed to prudho... for me < 1255610920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I get (though zoomed in a lot) when I open my link. < 1255610931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually wikipedia calls somethign else metric mile, ours is the scandinavian mile < 1255610933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, you're on crack. < 1255610935 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The page says prudhoe but the location on the map is ovington. < 1255610938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah < 1255610939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the q= string says Prudhoe, but that's just because it's what I used to find it. < 1255610974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the old norwegian and swedish mile, while different, were both 10-12 km < 1255610976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I clicked it; I know what it comes up with. :P < 1255610981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovington,_Northumberland < 1255610993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a WP article?! < 1255610994 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't certain there'd be a Wikipedia article on it < 1255611000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't even find any relevant results on Google < 1255611004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have been trying to add articles on everything larger than a hamlet in the entire world < 1255611005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, my mouse lags so < 1255611013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not surprised that someone went through it < 1255611019 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /am/ surprised that it's more than a stat dump, though < 1255611031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No population stats. < 1255611033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame. < 1255611051 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: also the metric system was introduced during the swedish-norwegian union, so not strange that we share it < 1255611053 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it spends an entire paragraph on how they hardly have a clue about its history < 1255611063 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father's birthplace is probably equally tiny, and it has a wp article too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mätäsvaara < 1255611067 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now *that's* a stub. < 1255611074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, true. We did some good over there in Norway after all ;P < 1255611096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tempted to replace it with "Mätäsvaara is a village." < 1255611140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ovington House bed and breakfast accommodation in Ovington ... < 1255611140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ovington House bed and breakfast accommodation, Ovington, Northumberland situated close to Newcastle upon Tyne and the Roman Wall offers a warm welcome to ... < 1255611147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding "Northumberland" to my query seems to haev helped. < 1255611162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi.wikipedia has some details too; there's a mine, there, that's about it. < 1255611372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3511/4012519527_dd1a95b262_b.jpg < 1255611411 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1255611493 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for PHP: 1 == TRUE == "x" == 0 == "" == NULL == FALSE < 1255611504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255612175 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612175 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612175 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612175 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612176 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612176 0 :Cerise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612177 0 :fizziew!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612177 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612180 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612180 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612180 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612180 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612181 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612182 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612182 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612183 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612184 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612184 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612184 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612185 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612185 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :zbrown!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :comex_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612186 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612187 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612187 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1255612247 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@130.233.228.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :ais523!i=93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/x-tlhetqfgxebokwbw JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :jix!n=jix@g224144229.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.134.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :fizziew!n=htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Warrigal!n=warrie@lunch.normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :mtve!n=nnmtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :comex_!i=comex@c-98-210-192-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Leonidas!n=Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-113-39-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@li14-39.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Cerise!i=jerry@unaffiliated/cerise JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Gregor!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-121-37.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-93-32.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-98-2.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :zbrown!n=suifur@unaffiliated/zbrown JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612247 0 :ineiros!n=itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You ought to reply to the elitekeyboards owner on geekhack.org; he's claiming that the zeros have zero problems whatsoever at speeds well above 115WPM and it's all the typist's fault < 1255612271 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"liitumassan kiskojakit" would be something like "rail-yaks of the chalk mass". < 1255612272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1255612272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how concisely you can express that < 1255612322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: Isaiah is a powerful draw, and the rail-yaks of the chalk mass. (Reference transcript through google-translate: "big and powerful locomotive was coming along rails".) < 1255612331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1255612350 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, there's two correct words an all. < 1255612380 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-epyyokdbpvmnxyzw JOIN :#esoteric < 1255612455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2009/10/3/151357/469 < 1255612570 0 :zbrown!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1255612717 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "Iso ja voimakas veturi oli tulossa kiskoja pitkin"? < 1255612727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes. < 1255612757 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You have solved the riddle! You get 15 points. Points can be exchanged for other, identical points. < 1255612769 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not /too/ far off the mark, then. If it hadn't lost the "ri" and the "kin" at the end it might've been a lot better. < 1255612775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about differently colored points? < 1255612804 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Cool! I'll exchange ten of my points for ten points and then combine it with the remaining five to get 15 points < 1255612816 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done! You now have 15 points. < 1255612823 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome! < 1255612831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I exchange my 0 points with MISSINGNO points. < 1255612847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stealthily paint one of Deewiant's points yellow < 1255612849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a wildcard that equals how many points you exchange it for) < 1255612854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Very handy) < 1255612862 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Done! You now have Äñ0ê:ìgLARø9hZDݟÔùyu=IwåEæwV^ûW³iùø¢... NO CARRIER < 1255612879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet! < 1255612917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I purchase a CARRIER. < 1255612941 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have an AIRCRAFT CARRIER. This means war! < 1255612980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends ehird the swatter to swat incoming aircraft -----###
< 1255612994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fly my AIRCRAFT CARRIER over to Deewiant's head and drop my Äñ0ê:ìgLARø9hZDݟÔùyu=IwåEæwV^ûW³iùø¢ on him. < 1255613020 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I throw my yellow point at the Äñ0ê:ìgLARø9hZDݟÔùyu=IwåEæwV^ûW³iùø¢ < 1255613037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swat the yellow point before it hits me. < 1255613043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are bad at aiming. < 1255613059 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1255613067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There goes my only yellow point. < 1255613072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHA < 1255613087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sneakily steal 7 of your 14 points. < 1255613097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With my AIRCRAFT CARRIER's point-steal-o-motron. < 1255613119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fly off into the distance, inexplicably slow-mo as my AIRCRAFT CARRIER just barely outruns an explosion. < 1255613121 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use my remaining 7 points to buy 7 AIRCRAFT CARRIERs. < 1255613135 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow-mo :-D < 1255613175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use my 7 points to buy three and a half BETTER AIRCRAFT CARRIERs. < 1255613211 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I grab the yellow point you swatted away and use it to buy an ULTIMATE AIRCRAFT CARRIER. < 1255613254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sell my AIRCRAFT CARRIER for a point, buy jet black paint for a point, and hastily paint my BETTER AIRCRAFT CARRIERs, thus making them ULTIMATE AIRCRAFT CARRIERs. < 1255613269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and also the half BETTER AIRCRAFT CARRIER. < 1255613274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It becomes an ULTIMATE HALF OF AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER. < 1255613278 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1255613285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fail. there was only enough black paint for a point, not a whole carrier. < 1255613294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: THAT IS NOT HOW THE ECONOMY WORKS < 1255613311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fine, I paint a point black and use my black point to buy a shit ton of jet black paint right before I started painting them < 1255613352 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This economy is kinda broken what with just painting a point making it a shit ton more valuable while the paint itself is cheap < 1255613362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn stagflation < 1255613406 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least this economy has a point. < 1255613412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fly my ULTIMATE HALF OF AN AIRCRAFT over to Deewiant and steal his complete lack of an anvil a few meters above his head. < 1255613437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1255613442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fly my ULTIMATE HALF OF AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER over to Deewiant and steal his complete lack of an anvil a few meters above his head. < 1255613450 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In response I steal the complete lack of the absence of an ULTIMATE HALF OF AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER near you < 1255613468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't have that; after all, around me is near me. < 1255613477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is an ULTIMATE HALF OF AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER around me. < 1255613488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before you can reword, I fly off into the distance. < 1255613494 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are wrong. < 1255613502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inexplicably fast-mo as I get chased by a bird with the Benny Hill music playing. < 1255613520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Howso < 1255613537 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around you is X, so you lack the absence of X around you. < 1255613554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, very true < 1255613572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A time paradox occurs and it turns out that that bird was just chasing me hovering in the air somehow. < 1255613572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION declares use of double negation a war crime
< 1255613599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I fly my AIRCRAFT CARRIER" <-- wait... what? < 1255613630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swat my lack of 2 points to death. I purchase some jet black paint with one point, paint the other point and buy a bomb with the painted point. < 1255613633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_aircraft_carrier < 1255613645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have: 3 ULTIMATE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS; a bomb < 1255613659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, I didn't even notice, heh < 1255613666 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1255613680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh. right. They aren't usually what the term "aircraft carrier" refers to though. < 1255613681 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exchange your continuous linguistic failure for 10 points < 1255613686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1255613736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... whatever the verb is for water, like "fly" for air ... an ULTIMATE AIRCRAFT CARRIER, and switch it into flight mode. It takes off into the air, and I exchange my badassery for 10 points. < 1255613762 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do the whole buy-paint-and-repaint-ad-infinitum thing and end up with a rainbow-colored point which I exchange for an INTERGALACTIC STARFIGHTER CARRIER. I head into orbit. < 1255613776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laugh IRL. < 1255613795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION flees this universe before the escalating war destroys it
< 1255613800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I purchase the All-Encompassing Space Empire with charm; good looks. < 1255613842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swat someone until they give me a point, which I use to buy some rope. < 1255613868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tie my three ULTIMATE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS together, thus making them into an INEXPLICABLY SPACE-FARING ULTIMATE THREE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS TIED TOGETHER. < 1255613888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I head into orbit around Deewiant's INTERGALACTIC STARFIGHTER CARRIER. < 1255613894 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rush into the asteroid belt and mine the rocks for 100 points, which I swiftly furbish into 10 rainbow-coloured points. < 1255613909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I throw a Furby at Deewiant. < 1255613927 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another war crime! < 1255613928 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rent a DIMENSIONAL PORTAL and, leaving my INTERGALACTIC STARFIGHTER CARRIER behind as a decoy, flee to wherever oerjan went. < 1255613973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Furby impacts with the CARRIER and bounces off harmlessly. < 1255613982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said at you, not at the CARRIER. < 1255613988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I grab a point from some random peon in the Empire and ascend to a higher plane of existence by jumping into space and suffocating; at the very moment I die, I eat the point. < 1255613995 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You suck at throwing as much as I do. < 1255614014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I navigate to Deewiant's trans-dimensional plane axis. < 1255614022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I exhume myself right next to Deewiant, and punch him. < 1255614031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1255614037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I punch Deewiant. < 1255614043 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1255614046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I punch Deewiant. < 1255614047 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1255614052 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ow. < 1255614065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sneaks back to the old universe and closes the portal behind him
< 1255614087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I climb into Deewiant's space-suit and smash the window. < 1255614109 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I climb into Deewiant's space-suit" sounds like the start of some sort of indecent slashfic. < 1255614112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As Deewiant floats out, grasping for air, I steal: 2 points; lint. < 1255614117 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: xD < 1255614122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dispel any notions of slashficcery. < 1255614136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Is that your "oh god I need oxygen" face? < 1255614153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or are you just happy to *swatted* < 1255614163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1255614186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, good job < 1255614192 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mutter "it's full of stars" and whatnot as a result of oxygen deprivation and being in outer space. < 1255614198 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION retrieves the swatter from the CARRIER
< 1255614210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what? ehird stole your swatter too? < 1255614212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I still have my own swatter you know. < 1255614214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it Deewiant who did < 1255614224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i lent it to him < 1255614224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, oerjan lent me his. < 1255614227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255614231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gather he has an infinite amount of them. < 1255614242 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is classified information < 1255614246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of infinite? < 1255614261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suspects uncountably infinite at least.
< 1255614272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swat Deewiant a few times, decide that this is getting boring, do the whole suffocation-absorbtion-into-hyperdimensional-plane spiel, except this time with Deewiant, not the point. < 1255614297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is only one true swatter. the number of decoys is, however, classified. < 1255614298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I promptly separate from Deewiant and jump back into the hyperspatial axis of the universe we were in, this time in the CARRIER, next to oerjan. < 1255614317 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regret starting the whole point thing. < 1255614321 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points out that ehird is dead in this universe
< 1255614337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a license to be a non-brain-desiring zombie. < 1255614341 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you POINT out. I see what you did there! < 1255614351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Groan. < 1255614369 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: This is why "pun not intended" is useful. < 1255614373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Deewiant still in the hyperdimensional plane? That would explain his INEXPLICABLE SILENCE. < 1255614382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad timing! < 1255614403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I exhume myself since I forgot to. Hi oerjan! < 1255614412 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i left it in after adding "pun not intended", it would be a lie < 1255614470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tap my fingers waiting for Deewiant. < 1255614478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got any points, oerjan? I need to do something. < 1255614483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1255614492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am completely pointless < 1255614504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks out of the CARRIER
< 1255614506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good! Then you won't mind... I sell oerjan as a slave, gaining 2 points. < 1255614513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late! < 1255614520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses! Foiled again! < 1255614526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away, bumping into a car, which explodes
< 1255614550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fly my CARRIER over to oerjan, pick him up, sell him as a slave for 1 and a half points. < 1255614555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He's known to be volatile now.) < 1255614579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do the whole paint spiel to get myself a rainbow point, and buy a mountain made out of LSD. < 1255614588 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone once claimed to me that oerjan means "slave" in finnish < 1255614605 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost < 1255614618 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need to remove the e and the n to get there < 1255614622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give away LSD liberally, and become president of the universe. < 1255614628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1255614633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Removing just the e will get you "slave's" < 1255614649 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255614677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jump into the hyperdimensional planevortexthing with a sample of the mountain, force-feed it to Deewiant's astral plane existence, and drop back into whence I came, where we use less bullshit-filled terms. < 1255614682 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I thought you already had an All-Encompassing Space Empire? < 1255614685 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's also the correct accusative case; "I buy a slave" -- "ostan orjan". < 1255614692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, turns out that means "some kid's lawn". < 1255614696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS SCAMMED < 1255614699 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh. Darn. < 1255614725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Deewiant runs into an elephant which is planet earth. It flips his 4th-dimensional superspace and he turns into a mushroom.] < 1255614741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[The walls, of which there aren't any, melt.] < 1255614748 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badger badger < 1255614789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[White noise fills existence. A bellowing vortex shouts: "''hhhow many things are' things? ! i would like to KNOw!". Your fffffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaccccccceeeeeeee is murdered all pinky-shaded.] < 1255614805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you have no intention of moving. :P < 1255614869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[The carcass of Jesus' face talks about Proust.] < 1255614964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Existence quietly takes itself out the back and shoots itself in the head. All things are over. Everyone loses.] < 1255615001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All points are lost. Fortunately. < 1255615006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[The sublime superliminal energy of the points absorbs itself and tries an odd contortionist position that's all the rage known as the Big Bang. Some rag-tag hooligan universe gets all started and excited and only lasts some billions of years.] < 1255615019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[oerjan's statement notwithstands, due to being said not in brackets by a man who does not exist.] < 1255615046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was true. From a point of view. < 1255615058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and that, kids, is the worst creation myth ever dreamt of. < 1255615066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it. < 1255615136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty fun though. < 1255615428 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255616264 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255617643 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1255618567 0 :jix!n=jix@82.113.106.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255618648 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255620739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distributed hashtable + ants = ants? < 1255620769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i suppose if the ants ate the hashtable... < 1255620782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. NO EATING ALLOWED < 1255620796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but - the poor ants! < 1255620825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay < 1255620826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can eeat < 1255620828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eat < 1255620857 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :splendid < 1255620863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1255620874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distributed hashtable + HYPOTHETICALLY NON-EATING ants = ants? < 1255620881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're very good at distributing < 1255620895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps rather UN-distributing < 1255621034 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I am leaving. You are about to explode." < 1255621329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HO)W DEAD ARE yo§± < 1255621547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why does anyone wants to distribute united nations? < 1255621557 0 :fizziew!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255621577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they are still missing a few parts < 1255621582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the vatican < 1255621617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE VATICAN CITY AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1255621621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the trees are birdses. < 1255621634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are? < 1255621642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating. < 1255621642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totall-fucking-y < 1255621650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascistinating, more like. like. < 1255621654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya'know. < 1255621773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MUCH FUNU TO BE HAD WHEN YOU'RE IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN THE VATICAN CIIIIIIIIIIIIITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1255621783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*FUN *FUN *FUN *FUN *FUN *FUN *FUN my v key is broken? < 1255621790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so THAT'S why I keep getting stuck at v in finger frenzy! < 1255621819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fg ggfgggggggggggggggggggggggggg9gggggge bbcccb < 1255621842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sometimes a bit heavy on the fun < 1255621856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally heavy fun extreme sports 2 < 1255621875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HARDCORING UP YOUR STREET, MEET " < 1255621919 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@82.66.176.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255622067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i maxed out a poodle and then it exploded < 1255622106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you lot invented an entire economy while I was afk? < 1255622130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1255622139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And destroyed it < 1255622143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And made it responsible for the creation of our universe < 1255622145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know... the usual < 1255622156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION exchanges one of ehird's points for 5 mackerel
< 1255622166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no can do; the points are all gone. < 1255622179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1255622183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why we can't have negative points < 1255622209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "[The sublime superliminal energy of the points absorbs itself and tries an odd contortionist position that's all the rage known as the Big Bang. Some rag-tag hooligan universe gets all started and excited and only lasts some billions of years.]" < 1255622233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically you COULD exchange them, but only if you had a way of ripping apart the 1-dimensional fabric of the universe. < 1255622261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a point is worth something like a billion trajillion mackerel. < 1255622272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when considering paint; it's worth 0.5 mackerel or so then. < 1255622295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would take a large collider or something, to crack hadrons into points < 1255622307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 points to a mackerel, it's a fundamental rule of at least two universes, one of which no longer exists and the other of which has not yet come into being < 1255622311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would completely unravel the universe, of course < 1255622324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, the reverse, ais523 < 1255622328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 point to 5 mackerel, no? < 1255622343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You can convert sexlua energy into points? < 1255622345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCIENCE NOWADAYS! < 1255622348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1255622353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sexula < 1255622353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, you're right < 1255622357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 point = 5 mackerel < 1255622369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, our points are super points. < 1255622369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we can paint them! < 1255622422 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with tomato sauce! < 1255622443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! YOU ARE ALL UNCANONICAL, DAMMIT! < 1255622506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNCANONICAL RABBITS < 1255622512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loose canons, everyone < 1255622553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loose rabikts kdsf < 1255622560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sleep-deprived, incidentally. < 1255622653 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sense-deprived < 1255622687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM ALWAYS DEPRIVED OF SCENT < 1255622698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i burst my keyboard typing that last sentence. who knew it was full of water. < 1255622714 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your keyboard was full of water? < 1255622725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, really what is up with you and keyboards? < 1255622725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Toooooooooootally. And a thousand pins. < 1255622727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are painful. < 1255622729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those fancy inflatable ones, clearly < 1255622736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am bleeding! I am made of gel, or so I hear. < 1255622760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, a water-filled keyboard isn't utterly implausible < 1255622763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jumped out the window about a millisecond ago; any tips for preparation in my new, post-self-defenestration life? < 1255622775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I feel a lot of that "pain" thing. This is fun! < 1255622811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my colleagues was rubber-ducking at me and came over to look at the channel just then < 1255622818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i suggest getting one of those self-preservation instincts < 1255622820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said we were discussing keyboards < 1255622839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are they expensive? < 1255622851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't assume they bought it... < 1255622865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I RUIN EVERYTHING :D < 1255622880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, he's embarassed anyway because I laugh at him when he sings < 1255622881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, there's a finger frenzy 2. < 1255622884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's funny < 1255622889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: only if you get it from experience < 1255622892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally I laugh at unfunny things < 1255622906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1255622925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S IMPOSSIBLE < 1255622935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was just commenting on "because it's funny" < 1255622949 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define rubber-ducking < 1255622950 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1255622962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: describing a problem to someone who doesn't understand it < 1255622972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1255622973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the hope that you'll realise what the solution is as a result < 1255622987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while, it was realised that the second person isn't actually necessary < 1255622990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called rubber-ducking because you can do it without annoying other people. < 1255622992 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they replaced it with a rubbr duck < 1255622997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rubber < 1255622998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has your colleague realised this? :P < 1255623023 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders when it'll be generally realised that the rubber duck isn't necessary either
< 1255623047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mental hospital will fill up with programmers < 1255623050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not true, it is important to have focus points :D < 1255623143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ the science of goats ! < 1255623147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ the science of goats ~ < 1255623150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the science of getting your headings wrong < 1255623623 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1255623680 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-120-109.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255623917 0 :jix!n=jix@g224149244.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1255624470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1255624529 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@p5B13702C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255624787 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255624894 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-18-18.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255625044 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-119-201.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255625293 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-96-32.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1255625598 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255625879 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255626213 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255626601 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97.118.120.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255627068 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1255627696 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-7-53.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1255628232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.digibarn.com/collections/systems/apple-lisa2xl/apple_lisa_screenshot.gif ;; what was up with the Lisa's funny "w"? < 1255628499 0 :groonrix!n=chatzill@bzq-79-177-69-216.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255628510 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot < 1255628518 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1255628542 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hi
< 1255628561 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves hello
< 1255628647 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear < 1255628713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1255628727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of patience you have there groonrix < 1255628744 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1255628759 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just started exploring IRC < 1255628765 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry if you're interrupted < 1255628777 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1255628815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well someone needs ADHD meds... < 1255628816 0 :groonrix!n=chatzill@bzq-79-177-69-216.red.bezeqint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255628822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y helo dar < 1255628856 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that it is possible to use EgoBot in order to translate text into Brainfuck printing sequence < 1255628861 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea how should I do that? < 1255628865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen < 1255628868 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 ++[>+++++>>><<<<-]>. [17] < 1255628872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen holy butt festival; festival of butts < 1255628874 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :397 +++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>-.+++++++.---.>+.>++.<<<-------.>>----.<++++++++.>-.>.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.-.<-.+.-----------.<++.<-.>----------.-------------------------------------------------.---------------------------.>>+.-.++++++++++++++.+.<.>++.<<<.>>+++.<.>+++.<<+++++.>.<----.>>>-.<+++++.>-.-.<<----------------------. [894] < 1255628882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:47] ehird: !bf_txtgen < 1255628882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:47] EgoBot: 20 ++[>+++++>>><<<<-]>. [17] < 1255628885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some efficient printing < 1255628892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically it's printing a newline < 1255628893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, err < 1255628896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++. < 1255628897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255628907 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright! Thanks a lot buddy! < 1255629091 0 :groonrix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1255629210 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255629449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i burst my keyboard typing that last sentence. who knew it was full of water. <-- wth < 1255629467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jelly! whole piles of jelly! stuck to my ceiling! < 1255629649 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1255629692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fax < 1255629873 0 :Guest76637!n=cal@69.181.46.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255630349 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1255630900 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255631013 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1255631111 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255632500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making a 4x3 font sure is hard < 1255632608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially lowercase i < 1255632613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think doing italics first would be easier... < 1255632868 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1255633926 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255633928 0 :jix!n=jix@92.224.149.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255636879 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1255637277 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4px wide? < 1255637770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255637948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, possibly, but that seems odd < 1255637970 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, but I'm used to seeing dimensions as width times height.. < 1255637973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway 4x3 isn't readable < 1255637982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor 3x4 < 1255638013 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a quite neat 3x5 font < 1255638028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many possible 4x3 patterns there are
< 1255638059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, easy enough to calculate it. First reduce it to a single line, then caclulate possible permutations. I think. < 1255638081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reduce to single line would mean "caclulate 4*3") < 1255638091 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends if it's black and white or not < 1255638103 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen a nice anti-aliased font of around that size < 1255638104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, I assumed 2 colours only < 1255638109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hm < 1255638133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, I can't imagine how you can represent something like ä in it < 1255638138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or å < 1255638148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't forget Å < 1255638149 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1255638155 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs internationalization? < 1255638179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, I guess you never write in Swedish. Ever. ;P < 1255638192 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I don't < 1255638202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... but you live in Sweden. < 1255638211 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I was joking ._. < 1255638217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, so was I < 1255638222 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1255638231 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, I think it depends on what you want to use the font for < 1255638243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, well I can't think of any use for such a small font < 1255638254 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you just need a small font for diplaying highscore in a game, you only need 0-9 < 1255638257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly because even on ~90 dpi it is not readable < 1255638267 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine Chinese in a 4x3 font... < 1255638273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, no. Just no < 1255638287 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x5 is pretty nice if you allow one-pixel empty spaces between letters. < 1255638296 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black box followed by black box followed by black box, followed by black box... < 1255638299 0 :Guest76637!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4*3 = 4095 different 'characters', minus the fact that a bunch are just translations < 1255638322 0 :Guest76637!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :iamcal < 1255638326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice arithmetics, "4*3 = 4095". < 1255638332 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1255638341 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 ^ (4*3)) - 1 < 1255638365 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why -1, though? It's not like the empty character couldn't well denote a Chinese character. < 1255638371 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, as well as any of the single-pixel ones. < 1255638390 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single pixel is a period or aposthrophe, depending on position < 1255638395 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 8 shades for each pixel, you could represent enough, though it might be _slightly_ hard to tell them apart... < 1255638396 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :empty is empty < 1255638400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamcal, what if it is in the middle? < 1255638412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplication dot I would say. < 1255638414 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en-dash < 1255638426 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good call < 1255638429 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iamcal.com/misc/fonts/ < 1255638459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamcal, at native size for my screen I would be utterly unable to read those < 1255638462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is 114 dpi iirc < 1255638471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1255638474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot exact value < 1255638496 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have reached my goal! < 1255638499 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're making a special-purpose 4x3 font, you don't have to make do with "empty is empty"; it's not like Chinese-the-language uses spaces between words. < 1255638500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iamcal, oh? < 1255638537 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel fonts are mostly a waste these days, with bigger screens < 1255638539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, isn't this basically a 2D barcode by now? < 1255638560 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That rfk86 port I wrote uses a 4x6 font, with the rightmost column and bottom row empty for most glyphs; that's very readable as long as you can distinguish unique pixels. < 1255638577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, TI-82 is extremely low DPI though < 1255638587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if my TI-83+ is anything like it < 1255638608 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how -82 is related, since I'm talking about the TI-86. < 1255638628 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got a bit more pixels (128x64, vs. 96x64 in the 83+) but I guess pretty much the same DPI. < 1255638660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the N900 3.5" 800x480 screen (266 DPI), you'd get a very unreadable 200x80-sized text mode with that 4x6 font; a single character would be a bit less than 0.4 mm times 0.6 mm. < 1255638737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh right < 1255638743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typoed < 1255638744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant 86 < 1255638761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also odd it has a larger screen < 1255638770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is supposed to be more primitive iirc? < 1255638797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is N900? < 1255638811 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Debian-phone by Nokia. < 1255638811 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smartphone? < 1255638815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255638837 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255638858 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm guessing 83+ inherited the 96x64 screen from the non-plus model, which was less capable than the 86. < 1255638947 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact primitiveness is still debatable; the 83+ has just 32K of RAM, while the 86 has 128K; it's just that on the 86 all programs have to be stored in the RAM, while the 83+ has that half-a-megabyte Flash for data storage. < 1255639136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/)/, my punctuation stack is leaky. < 1255639480 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255640841 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 148 (No route to host) < 1255641455 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.140.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255641749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:07:57 4px wide? < 1255641749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1255641753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:19:33 anyway 4x3 isn't readable < 1255641754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1255641907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:27:09 http://www.iamcal.com/misc/fonts/ < 1255641908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crisp! < 1255641927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, and now I must break my three-long chain of one-word responses < 1255641951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you need a 4x3 font for? < 1255641961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you need Befunge for? < 1255641967 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4x3 is readable? Really? < 1255641975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Blown up sufficiently and aspect-ratio-corrected, yes. < 1255641985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Designed for a non-square-pixel display.) < 1255641988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Imaginary, that is.) < 1255641990 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, it's cheating if you blow it up. < 1255641999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, rephrasing... what made you make a 4x3 font? < 1255642006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what? It was readable at the original resolution of the... um... comput-o-tron! < 1255642013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Why not? < 1255642019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like very small fonts. < 1255642026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, good answer. < 1255642161 0 :Guest76637!n=cal@c-69-181-46-213.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1255642370 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An actually readable 4x3 font (I mean, assuming no extra space between rows or anything) sounds like quite a thing indeed, but I guess I shouldn't go calling it impossible without seeing it. < 1255642384 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/font.png has the rfk86 font. < 1255642412 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's double the amount of pixels, though. < 1255642525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's readable on a low-PPI screen with non-square pixels. < 1255642533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So that 4x3 is square.) < 1255642533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it will be. < 1255642537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I've crafted the perfect letter forms. < 1255642550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make it italic; seems to be the best way to get the most readable shapes out of it. < 1255642648 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, do provide some block-of-text examples when it's done; I would think that with only three pixel rows, you'd have a problem with staying legible when the bottom pixels of row 1 are directly adjacent to the top pixels of row 2. < 1255642666 0 :iamcal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1255642668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously I'll have spacing. < 1255642679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm idiotic, but I'm not stupid. < 1255642715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a way to render a more italics-like. < 1255642718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#**# < 1255642720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*##* < 1255642724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#*** < 1255642726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I have now < 1255642742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me rephrase. < 1255642745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*##* < 1255642747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#**# < 1255642749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*### < 1255642762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# is on. < 1255642827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I'm downloading an imagery-software designed for pixel-poushing. < 1255642865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pushing < 1255642952 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1255643251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Admittedly it's not easy. < 1255643554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3x4, on the other hand, is almost criminally easy... < 1255643698 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not counting the spacing in the character cell dimensions is also cheating, you know. (Or alternatively a matter of definition. But no, cheating!) < 1255643731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, making the j be friends with the i is hard. < 1255643745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, not really.) < 1255643781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What if some of my letterforms are smaller than others? < 1255643781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that acceptable? :P < 1255643787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proportionalism! < 1255643888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh geez, "m" is gonna be hard for 3x4. < 1255643935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make sure to do it like this: http://typophile.com/node/61920 ;) < 1255644018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old; I linked it in here days ago. < 1255644034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not really 3 x-pixels, since the colour is vital. < 1255644043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's where I first saw it. < 1255644047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night ↑ < 1255644047 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still rather awesome. < 1255644056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More fun than the actual font, incidentally, is StoneCypher's posts. He needs to be put in a nice, fluffy building with people in white coats. < 1255644094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the part where he claims that one of the people who REALLY pioneered this stuff broke his hand by punching a brick wall because of miha's evil thread title. (I'm not joking) < 1255644138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, all my attempts at 3x4 "m"s look like small-caps Ts. < 1255644202 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only imagine things that look like Hs < 1255644209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1255644242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Make sure to do it like this: http://typophile.com/node/61920 ;) <-- that hurts to read. Really < 1255644249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is as bad as cleartype < 1255644253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, it doesn't. < 1255644259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to me it does < 1255644270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but your eyes are broken. < 1255644272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colour bleed. < 1255644275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Remember that lowercase letters should generally forego the top letter :-P < 1255644293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Your screen sucks; yes there is colour bleed, no it does not hurt the eye < 1255644294 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/etter /ine / < 1255644298 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1255644301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's that? Exaggeration? Gasp) < 1255644303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Erm, yes < 1255644315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (Lowercase lines should generally forego the top letter?) < 1255644325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, all colour bleed hurts badly IMO. Guess why even on my laptop I hate subpixel stuff < 1255644335 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No. /etter /, not /etter/. < 1255644342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ooops < 1255644364 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why I even bother doing these things correctly since everybody reads it wrong anyways :-P < 1255644369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oops < 1255644388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, I suspect you've just not seen any even vaguely decent subpixel rendering. Believe me, text without antialiasing really, really, *really* hurts to read. < 1255644389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Either you have the non-existent condition colourbleedipainfultis, your screens are jaw-droppingly terrible, or you're exaggerating < 1255644405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, he barfs even at OS X's. < 1255644417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes indeed. Which is why I use non-subpixel antialias < 1255644422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Wow. OS X does font rendering very, very well. < 1255644423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He uses full-hinted greyscale antialiasing, which is basically like gently hovering pencil above a paper. < 1255644432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then erasing it a few times. < 1255644435 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1255644441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gives you a result about half as wispy as the text rendering. < 1255644448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, turned off for small sizes < 1255644456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1255644463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is 8 and below iirc < 1255644468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? Antialiasing makes vector fonts READABLE at small sizes. < 1255644485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, at small sizes I tend to use bitmap fonts anyway < 1255644496 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1255644499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And never consume others' content, right. < 1255644516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hey now, bitmap Helvetica at 12px is a damn fine sharp font. < 1255644524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But properly subpixelled text is better, of course. < 1255644530 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255644544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes bitmap Helvetica is awesome indeed. < 1255644555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is good old Fixed. < 1255644557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not what I said. < 1255644561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some x11 font probably) < 1255644569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed is Courier. < 1255644575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, yeah. It's kinda hard to screw up Helvetica. < 1255644576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right yes seems right < 1255644586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and courier is awsome < 1255644600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh actually it was 6 and below AA was turned off for. < 1255644601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 8 < 1255644625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you even using such small font sizes? < 1255644630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm not < 1255644634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use 8 but nothing below < 1255644637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then... < 1255644650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then it is completely irrelevant yes < 1255644736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUDDENLY, HYPER-ADVANCED DIMENSIONAL VORTEX BEING < 1255644809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1255644830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fully hinted greyscale AA is 1) readable 2) doesn't hurt my eyes due to colour bleed < 1255644937 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for the record (and I've said it before too) I do greyscale-only antialiased fonts too, because one of my screens has that 90 degree rotation, and I haven't managed to get Xinerama to provide different subpixel orders (rgb and vertical-rgb) for different screens, and anyway it's pretty ugly for the vertical-rgb screen. < 1255645003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that THE MAGICAL OS X could do that, but it probably can't. I'm not even sure how I'd go about setting up a rotated display. < 1255645035 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably applies some sort of patch to physically rotate the subpixels back; it's that clever. < 1255645048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255645057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just plug it in, RRRRRRRRRRRRRIP, your display is all rotated. < 1255645593 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it" < 1255646771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1255646777 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.140.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255647229 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1255647263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose anyone has a Mac Classic ROM just, you know, lying around? < 1255647722 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1255647948 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255648149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would be sweet. < 1255650449 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric