< 1264119316 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264122145 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1264123287 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Todo this weekend: Write a JavaScript interpreter < 1264123618 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1264123662 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I've got a mouse with a wheel again :P < 1264125155 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION envy
< 1264125169 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this mouse has a wheel but it does whatever it likes when I scroll it, so I don't scroll it. < 1264125414 0 :cheater2!n=cheater@ip-80-226-230-231.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1264125881 0 :cheater3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1264126082 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1264126117 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264126341 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264126582 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hey, I've got a mouse with a wheel again :P < 1264126590 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cat ate its foot? < 1264126614 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has smoke coming out of his ears
< 1264126632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP THINKING SO HARD < 1264126702 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I aaaalmost got it, because if my cat ate her foot she would form a wheel, and cats eat mice, but I can't rectify "mouse with a" < 1264126752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your cat ate _the mouse's_ foot? < 1264126756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :** < 1264126779 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH < 1264126791 0 :augur!n=augur@c-98-218-226-149.hsd1.dc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264126802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ some prosthetics, obviously < 1264126838 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that I got < 1264126890 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1264127397 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264127994 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@71.216.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264128013 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264128206 0 :augur!n=augur@c-98-218-226-149.hsd1.dc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264128410 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264129148 0 :adam_d_!n=Adam@71.216.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264129181 0 :jpc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I will do anything (almost) for a new router." < 1264129324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1264129326 0 :jpc!n=jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264130303 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264130818 0 :MizardX-!n=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1264131488 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/ < 1264131529 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Warning: Silverlight) < 1264131568 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264131765 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264131795 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1264131877 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: neat < 1264131890 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1264131897 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found it because of TV Tropes Wiki
< 1264131935 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1264131940 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing good ever comes of tvtropes < 1264131984 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProgrammingGame < 1264132186 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1264132220 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1264132296 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION discovers the FATAL traditional RPG.
< 1264132319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be summed as follows: Imagine that /b/ made an RPG. Now imagine that that RPG could defecate. *That* is FATAL. < 1264132831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :averagesizedpeni < 1264133081 0 :averagesizedpeni!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1264133730 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1264133798 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, did you just link to a really awesome game? < 1264133828 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, that's a bit subjective, really < 1264133837 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at least I have something to do for an hour < 1264134378 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum, I'm having difficulty getting Silverlight. < 1264135207 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264135243 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1264135732 0 :adam_d_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1264136300 0 :zeotrope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264136757 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264137120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd :D < 1264138515 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i've seen that with subroutines < 1264138516 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264138580 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol yeah that has them too < 1264138605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"rhombus" < 1264138672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay and tons of other stuff < 1264138677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1264139889 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264139918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the creator of Robozzle might have been inspired by another game. I think he said it somewhere < 1264139931 0 :aesh_49!n=aeshverm@triband-mum-59.184.128.107.mtnl.net.in JOIN :#esoteric < 1264139978 0 :aesh_49!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1264140017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there was this trivial game where you put a few arrows down and light like a lamp < 1264140047 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I've seen it < 1264140058 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the one that inspired this one < 1264140115 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqBVWi_Pc0 [partial puzzle spoilers (how badly can a video spoil, if the code isn't shown?)] < 1264140260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icegibbon (7 months ago) Show Hide +1 Marked as spam Reply Awesome. A game that teaches concepts of Programming, even recursion! Finally < 1264140264 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate youtube < 1264140396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"recursion" lol < 1264140410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaat's a fucking goto < 1264140415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that's < 1264140487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it does tend to act more like recursion than a goto < 1264140509 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right it does < 1264140534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose in the middle of F1 you put a conditional F1.. there are puzzles that rely on the recursive-like behavior < 1264140548 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i like the idea of having a memory array, and putting a color pattern on it that's that only way to do conditionals < 1264140568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically the game with an infinite pattern + like a drop command < 1264140570 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for stack in http://robozzle.com/puzzles.aspx < 1264140573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shit here" < 1264140574 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1264140581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, interesting < 1264140607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to be at uni in 6 minutes, and have to take the dog out first, so slightly busy atm < 1264140610 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe tonight < 1264140622 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is going to sleep soon
< 1264140624 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a few minutes of simpsons first < 1264140924 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/forums/thread.aspx?id=1593 < 1264141664 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@71.216.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264141868 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a Javascript client: http://robozzle.com/js < 1264141952 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1264142054 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1264142135 0 :FireFly!n=firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1264143405 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1264145045 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1264146582 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1264146818 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264147199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1264147200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1264148728 0 :jpc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I will do anything (almost) for a new router." < 1264149105 0 :nooga_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264150251 0 :MigoMipo!n=migomipo@84-217-8-147.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264150782 0 :scarf!n=scarf@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264151101 0 :nooga!n=nooga@sc82.internetdsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1264152596 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264154291 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf|away < 1264154393 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264155761 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1264157501 0 :scarf|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf < 1264161024 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264162409 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264163088 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264163108 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O the Robozzle source is freely available (don't know if it's Open Source or not, though) < 1264163113 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.codeplex.com/ < 1264163175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION plays with Grooveshark, and facepalms at whoever thinks that Salva Me is an Enya song
< 1264163201 0 :MizardX!n=MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1264164662 0 :MissPiggy!n=quantum@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1264165332 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when do these start getting hard? < 1264165353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming i agree with the general difficulty ratings < 1264165381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually realized there's one after i asked, so probably i could just scroll levels until i find a hard one) < 1264165836 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides the campaign tab, there's also an easy to hard tab... < 1264165900 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices that oklopol asked that 7 min ago, so pokes him in case he didn't check IRC
< 1264166291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lol < 1264166300 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but actually these are hard enough already < 1264166313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i think this is still an "easy" level) < 1264166344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sofar the only hard ones have been ones where i've needed something i hadn't realized i can do < 1264166360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in limit your stack, i have no idea what to do yet < 1264166463 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1264166465 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hi < 1264166478 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has only done one puzzle that involved the stack, it was some learn the stack puzzle
< 1264166495 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi asiekierka < 1264166500 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the current topic < 1264166506 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i don't like go all offtop---oh wait... T_T < 1264166523 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1264166526 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you guys talking about < 1264166538 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and madame's < 1264166540 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com (if you don't have Silverlight, try http://robozzle.com/js ) < 1264166550 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although the latter doesn't have the tutorial, I think < 1264166556 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is unpretty < 1264166579 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh silverlight < 1264166612 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make a random text generator based on all these markov's and weighting to < 1264166613 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1264166616 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1264166627 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1264166629 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy to explain < 1264166647 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o, robozzle? < 1264166650 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a game like it < 1264166651 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 year ago < 1264166662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, just a guess, but Light-Bot? < 1264166667 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1264166668 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1264166678 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robozzle is much more flexible, and is mostly user-created puzzles < 1264166700 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have logic gates < 1264166704 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if yes, then i agree < 1264166707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has conditionals < 1264166720 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may work < 1264166731 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should pull off a computer in it xD < 1264166740 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an adder < 1264166799 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqBVWi_Pc0 (possibly spoils some puzzles) < 1264167033 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-8-147.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264167128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, what's that filled-circle command? ... oh, it paints a square, or something. < 1264167161 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no "or something", it paints the square < 1264167189 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1264167200 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not mentioned at http://www.robozzle.com/wiki/Commands.ashx though. < 1264167245 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was added later on, iirc < 1264167270 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add a command that allows the robot to repaint tiles (making RoboZZle Turing-complete) < 1264167270 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update: this extension is now implemented! < 1264167275 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.robozzle.com/wiki/Proposed%20RoboZZle%20Extensions.ashx < 1264167305 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1264167357 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty cool < 1264167681 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait you can do recursion in this?? < 1264167706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay limit your stack is obvious, i guess i just didn't understand the stack well enough < 1264167734 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh!! the editor for this game is so horrible it makes playing it painful < 1264167827 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, the keyboard shortcuts might help < 1264167854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are you using the Silverlight version or the JS version? < 1264167858 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :js < 1264167860 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uugh, i have to solve what? 40 puzzles? < 1264167896 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make your own puzzles, yes < 1264167907 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not funny. < 1264167916 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only solved what, 15? < 1264167927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try solving the easiest puzzles? < 1264167937 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've solved 32 puzzles today < 1264167940 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about 40? Something relevant to the Silverlight version? < 1264167952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1264167953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it's how many you need to solve to edit puzzles < 1264167957 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how i got 15 < 1264167957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems sgeo has too....... < 1264167967 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smells failure
< 1264167971 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's a JS puzzle editor < 1264167980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, hm? < 1264167990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you solved 32 puzzles today? < 1264168000 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I solved way over that < 1264168014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The board in the Silverlight thing doesn't seem to update properly < 1264168021 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Sgeo is number one on the list < 1264168025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1264168027 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try "Full scoreboard" < 1264168043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just wondering if it was my score, but i'd clicked on your link and somehow they mistook me for you < 1264168055 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i've solved exactly 32 now < 1264168083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, one of those puzzles really shouldn't count. Some idiot made a trivial puzzle with 1 slot. I think it's hidden from regular view, but it was in RSS < 1264168113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you start today? < 1264168113 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves how the top players right now are Eso.. what's the right term for us?
< 1264168120 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I started within the past 24h < 1264168153 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a bit monotonical. I guess the scoreboard's also visible only in Silverlight-land? < 1264168182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Silverlight board is crappy. http://robozzle.com/scoreboard.aspx is better < 1264168377 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: esolangers < 1264168399 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlangers < 1264168410 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how there's like 20 puzzles with one solution < 1264168513 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19 so far < 1264168563 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264168591 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzles < 1264168593 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264168597 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the grand 40 < 1264168603 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm heading < 1264168616 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23, actually, i have < 1264168657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i have to quit for the day < 1264168662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol? < 1264168665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1264168672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to spend time with humans :'( < 1264168714 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1264168751 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, refreshed < 1264168757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems i could easily catch up with you < 1264168786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, assuming you're slower than me ofc < 1264168796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24h is just an upper limit prolly < 1264168857 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :25, time for a break < 1264168863 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I admit it this game is fun < 1264169432 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Oklopol hit 40 < 1264169463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1264169477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :41 is trivial, don't solve anything so i can catch you < 1264169480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do you have? < 1264169497 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hey, we're humans! < 1264169573 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has 43
< 1264169602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying the Limit Your Stack one
< 1264169676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grrr < 1264169683 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I give up on that one for now. If only it were facing a different direction < 1264169685 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just finished 42nd < 1264169728 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and fizzie are both much faster than I am, I think < 1264169770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a couple easy ones outside the campaign tab (I just now noticed it's not just the sorting; it's different puzzles) so my 43 might not count. < 1264169783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :43 < 1264169797 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, fizzie is doing these? < 1264169801 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you mean, "count" < 1264169802 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264169810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really have to go soon :| < 1264169815 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't been staying on the campaign
< 1264169817 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just easy ones < 1264169820 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you've dong exactly 43? < 1264169822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The list was linked to just a moment ago; http://robozzle.com/scoreboard.aspx?today=1 < 1264169825 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, I'm a dong. < 1264169835 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264169837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*done < 1264169853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've done them in order, since they've all been trivial sofar < 1264169866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay DON'T DO ANYTHING NOW < 1264169873 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry about me, though; I'm feeling so bored I might even stop here. < 1264169893 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, skip to some more advanced ones? < 1264169898 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps some stack stuff? < 1264169933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44 < 1264169935 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess I could take a look. < 1264169972 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'm #1, time for pizza < 1264170043 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would be awesome to have another allnight of competing with fizzie < 1264170048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some other time < 1264170054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*allnighter < 1264170068 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe; I'll be mostly away this evening too. < 1264170088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarrr < 1264170089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya -> < 1264170092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to go solve another? < 1264170093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1264170331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah now you can solve anything you want < 1264170339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to catch you < 1264170349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it's done, and i'll never have to touch the game again < 1264170349 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw Sgeo; < 1264170434 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, does "never have to" mean that you won't? :( < 1264170503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably will, one of the best games i've seen < 1264170602 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is stuck :p
< 1264170748 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, try a different puzzle < 1264170755 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1264170895 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, stack tutorial: http://robozzle.com/forums/thread.aspx?id=1593 < 1264170903 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few good puzzles for practising the stack < 1264170983 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1264171092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi oerjan < 1264171127 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1264171238 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points oerjan to robozzle.com
< 1264171309 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the latter ones seem reasonably nontrivial. < 1264171326 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses, i was trying to pretend not to have noticed that < 1264171329 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do smart reuse < 1264171363 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, it's rather easy. Just figure out what commands you might like to repeat, and put them in F2. Different set of commands, F3 < 1264171377 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then F1 is simply calls to F2 or F3 as needed < 1264171394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming I know what puzzle you're talking about) < 1264171443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1264171444 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh haha wow I convinced myself the solution was more difficult than that somehow < 1264171471 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw 9 spaces but it starts at 0 so there's actually 10... < 1264171474 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that way does work < 1264171669 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :durrr learn to count < 1264171809 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/puzzle.aspx?id=1587 looks tricky < 1264172156 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The JS client seems to break for me < 1264172200 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/puzzle.aspx?id=318 -- in the campaign -- was nice; they start to approach some actual computation there. < 1264172262 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't sure how he would even get started on that one
< 1264172393 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1264172402 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just nest calls of f2 and f3 -- f3 for each red brick, for example -- and have the trailing end of f3 have a single up-arrow; and arrange things that the whole pile returns after a green. < 1264172604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. In the puzzle designer, in the solution part, you can press L to get a link that you can give to others < 1264172630 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without submitting the puzzle < 1264172701 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf|away < 1264172976 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264173051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 puzzles left < 1264173051 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1264173086 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to watch some SG-1
< 1264173119 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common type of puzzles i found is the 4-3 puzzle < 1264173124 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 slots, 3 colors of blocks < 1264173126 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it work < 1264173182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that that description could apply to a wide variety of completely different puzzles < 1264173237 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main rule of the 4-3 puzzles is that < 1264173247 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to go straight and assign 2 commands to 2 color types < 1264173260 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR assign 3 commands to 3 color types (rare-ish) < 1264173267 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then jump back to itself < 1264173380 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make a game for my cellphone like that < 1264173496 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now im stuck again < 1264173530 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, what puzzle < 1264173531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264173537 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn around < 1264173547 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, 38 < 1264173554 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two more and i can has editorz < 1264173587 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make "Universal Program" series < 1264173591 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is to use ONE program < 1264173596 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-172-3-224.range86-172.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264173596 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make it work on 3 different puzzles < 1264173608 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not 100% different < 1264173611 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow, yes < 1264173620 0 :cpressey!n=CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264173621 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1264173624 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i like about roboZZle < 1264173632 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that it doesn't remember half the levels i've already done < 1264173637 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1264173642 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just noticed this is a different puzzle < 1264173664 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there are some repeats. They tend to get disliked < 1264173702 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by anyone who got past 40 puzzles, that it < 1264173703 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is* < 1264173710 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the <40'ers LOVE them < 1264173725 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1264173767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, it took me a while to realize that Robozzle = Robot + Puzzle < 1264173811 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! FORTY < 1264173824 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations < 1264173828 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, edit---... < 1264173834 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is far below my expectations. < 1264173839 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264173840 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to write a competing game i guess < 1264173843 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1264173852 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought this editor will have more functions < 1264173858 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see how it is possible < 1264173875 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, I did it early, but forgot how < 1264173895 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, what's wrong with the editor? < 1264173969 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, no, not the editor < 1264173981 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just thought the game's slightly more than BF < 1264173986 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while it has about the same number of commands as BF < 1264174018 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks it would make more sense to compare it to a 2d language. After all, there is 2d memory, after a fasion
< 1264174025 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean < 1264174029 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of commands in general < 1264174031 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's count < 1264174037 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOVE STRAIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT < 1264174041 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUNCTION 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 < 1264174046 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAINT TILE RED, GREEN, BLUE < 1264174054 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and three kinds of prefixes < 1264174069 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 10 commands if we assume the FUNCTION command as being one command with a param < 1264174072 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :told ya < 1264174079 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though yeah < 1264174086 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i could make such a game for a different platform < 1264174088 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.E. the NES < 1264174224 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit bored of this < 1264174263 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a way to solve these automatically < 1264174275 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1264174282 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to submit but i'd rather like someone else see it first < 1264174283 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any way to < 1264174322 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, go to the solver thing, then press L < 1264174331 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, there is a solver somewhere < 1264174342 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool how does it work < 1264174347 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/index.aspx#design/aaaaaaaaaayibaaaaaaiiaaaaaaiiagaaayibadaaaaaaadaaaaarBlaaaaaaarBdaaaaaBaaaaaaaBaaaaaaaAaaaaaaajaWoicaa,qerMgeeHqGa < 1264174347 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/robozzlesolver/ < 1264174351 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, someone have a look < 1264174356 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tell me if it's good enough for a submit < 1264174370 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1264174375 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka the solution was already coded in!!! < 1264174383 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh !@#$% < 1264174390 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1264174416 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Small amount of instructions and program length limit make it possible to construct an automatic solver for puzzles based on backtracking" < 1264174418 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :humf < 1264174422 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very interesting < 1264174425 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/index.aspx#design/aaaaaaaaaayibaaaaaaiiaaaaaaiiagaaayibadaaaaaaadaaaaarBlaaaaaaarBdaaaaaBaaaaaaaBaaaaaaaAaaaaaaajaWoicaa,a - try this < 1264174431 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for anyone that hasn't < 1264174435 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as copying a soluton is not fun < 1264174468 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone NOT SEE that other link < 1264174477 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im http://robozzle.com/scoreboard.aspx?today=1 < 1264174479 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im the lowest < 1264174486 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264174491 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're 33rd < 1264174491 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264174498 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not really going past my 40 much < 1264174528 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/user.aspx?name=snydej - hey, this guy has some epic puzzles < 1264174576 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo < 1264174587 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka? < 1264174591 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1264174593 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1264174597 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you see my puzzle < 1264174600 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you peek the solution < 1264174604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I peeked < 1264174608 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuugh < 1264174611 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1264174614 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no problem < 1264174630 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish fizzie was on < 1264174663 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They changed the Java installer, it doesn't say anything about experiencing the power of Java any more :( < 1264174707 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that snydej guy is cool < 1264174712 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1264174773 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, remember R.O.B., that idiot nes robot < 1264174778 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he had something similar to robozzle < 1264174782 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it converted an actual "robot" < 1264174783 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was 1D < 1264174784 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nes robot?? < 1264174787 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1264174790 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that nes weirdo < 1264174795 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with huge glass eyes < 1264174890 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1264174893 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the robozzle channel emty < 1264174894 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#robozzle < 1264174996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I asked exactly that question on the forums < 1264175025 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to watch some SG-1
< 1264175036 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no you aren't < 1264175044 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264175058 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what < 1264175065 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make paper cubes of RoboZZle commands < 1264175075 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, all combinations < 1264175080 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are paper cubes < 1264175084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1264175092 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cubes that you make with gluing paper all around < 1264175106 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that'll be a total of 9*4=36 combinations needed < 1264175110 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for every possible command < 1264175364 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, langtozzle < 1264175402 0 :scarf|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf < 1264175424 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :langtozzle? < 1264175474 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to do that tree one from snydej < 1264175766 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :langton's ant in robozzle < 1264175767 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy peasy < 1264175843 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol: < 1264175844 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Right now I've seen a puzzle where F1 has 4 slots, F2 has 3 slots, and F3 has only one slot, and the author's solution has a length of 8, which means he needed F3! No wonder almost everybody solved it with a length of 7." < 1264175903 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1264175912 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1264175913 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy: it's easy to make a puzzle a program can't solve < 1264175936 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopuzzle how do you mean? < 1264175955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know what the length limit is < 1264175959 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't give enuogh instructions < 1264175965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even with like 8 i'm sure it's easy < 1264175982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i mean solvable, but not solvable by a program < 1264175985 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well see ya -> < 1264175998 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :solvable, but not solvable by a program?? < 1264176047 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory, all puzzles are brute-forcable < 1264176048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if anyone ever does the game of life in robozzle < 1264176084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is doable though < 1264176103 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or certainly would be if we had anything more than 3 block colors < 1264176106 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say 4 < 1264176491 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I did tree lol < 1264176564 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, which interface are you using < 1264176565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264176574 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up using silverlight one because it's better < 1264176594 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1264177092 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264177283 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that langtons ant thing is so cool I can't believe I didn't know about < 1264177319 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1264177321 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see my vid < 1264177333 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1264177338 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i uploaded one < 1264177340 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :showing it in action < 1264177355 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me it? < 1264177430 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1264177441 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDWmujQ3W_I < 1264177929 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, post on the forums? < 1264177965 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1264177966 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1264177977 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do stacks as i'm stuck on stack puzzles :( < 1264177992 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1264178000 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found you posting it earlier < 1264178031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MissPiggy: solvable, but not solvable by a program??" <<< yes < 1264178038 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: bruteforce < 1264178044 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming an app allows F1 to F5 < 1264178048 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all color painters < 1264178049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently, computers aren't better than humans at all things < 1264178052 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get 4 modifiers < 1264178058 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 14 commands < 1264178073 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 56 command combos per tile < 1264178077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brute force doesn't help < 1264178085 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2,5668550825308447236314129989887e+87 < 1264178091 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the amount of combinations pretty much < 1264178097 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thats not including empty tiles < 1264178105 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but let's assume the typical situation < 1264178115 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 color painter, 3 functions of a length of 20 total < 1264178131 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 commands, 4 modifiers < 1264178140 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28 combinations of a command < 1264178181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no infinite loops in Robozzle.. programs terminate after 1000 steps < 1264178193 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT makes 87732524600823436081182539776 combinations < 1264178198 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 1 second for all of them < 1264178202 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we get... nevermind < 1264178239 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 0.2 seconds but knowing we use 4 cores to do 4 combinations at once < 1264178249 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're slimmed down to 4386626230041171804059126988,8 seconds < 1264178267 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 10^10 universe ages < 1264178323 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's notreally much < 1264178332 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 141030935893813393906 years < 1264178340 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we assume we're doing a simple stack puzzle < 1264178347 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have no paint modifiers < 1264178351 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and only 2 functions for 10 commands < 1264178360 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err no paint colorers < 1264178365 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we have 5 commands and 4 modifiers < 1264178373 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10240000000000 combinations < 1264178427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that not all combinations are productive < 1264178443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left followed by right in same color, and right followed by left in same color, for instance < 1264178451 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's optimization < 1264178458 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1264178464 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help that much < 1264178596 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im waiting for godwin's law to take effect < 1264178606 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in robozzle < 1264178689 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..what? In the forums? < 1264178693 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1264178698 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a puzzle < 1264178702 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, a swastika-shaped puzzle < 1264178712 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1264178726 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can imagine that happening by accident
< 1264178745 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd imagine that it already has, and no one noticed < 1264178834 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence fits _so_ many situations... < 1264178859 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I'd imagine that it already has, and no one noticed < 1264178861 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :117| I'd imagine that it already has, and no one noticed < 1264178870 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264178907 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what console should i implement a robozzle clone on? < 1264178913 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking DS < 1264178916 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and NES < 1264178952 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one < 1264178955 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NES is retro and fun < 1264178964 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while DS is touche < 1264178997 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odyssey² < 1264179060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1264179081 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka very nice!!! < 1264179203 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should probably learn wha Langton's Ant is
< 1264179221 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 2D turing machine, two colours, four states for the four directions < 1264179247 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes the square underneath it from white to black (or vice versa), turns left if it's on a white square or right if it's on a black square, then goes forwards one square < 1264179328 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1264179330 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make a joke video < 1264179334 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"First-First-Person Tetris" < 1264179340 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically glue a webcam on my head < 1264179347 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and move it around while playing First-Person tetris < 1264179374 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are first-person tetris references cropping up so often nowadays? < 1264179399 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a simple concept < 1264179401 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implemented < 1264179428 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Set your video in a post-apocalypse world and call it "Last-Person First-First-Person Tetris". < 1264179437 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1264179446 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, nevermind, i'll do this now, in 1080p < 1264179455 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, give me a green screen and i will < 1264179560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the bug you mention showed up because someone registered ' ' as a user account. (I think they had to go around the client checks to do that.) I'll fix it. < 1264179562 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1264179572 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1264179820 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Universe age" is not a good unit of time. "Universe age as of 1950" is. < 1264179930 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But any unit of time that changes as you say it is pretty interesting. And interesting > good :) < 1264180079 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working on First-Person RoboZZle < 1264180089 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first person :S < 1264180103 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be horribly difficult to learn what strategy to use? < 1264180106 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1264180108 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a video mockup < 1264180322 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, 2 seconds done < 1264180356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264180386 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seems to have turned the channel into RoboZZle addicts
< 1264181109 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1264181111 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :techdemo joke done < 1264181418 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upload and linky? < 1264181434 0 :nooga!n=nooga@acbm57.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1264181821 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1264181996 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1264182016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you bastard, you've been playing :) < 1264182031 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Sowwwwwy. :/ < 1264182056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've just done random puzzles here and there, so it doesn't matter! < 1264182070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that have difficulty>3 are more interesting than the early ones. < 1264182085 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for some values of "interesting". < 1264182103 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, admittedly 346 is just a recursive tree-walk, but at least it's almost like programmering. < 1264182112 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the tree walk < 1264182114 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherer i stihs < 1264182114 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fun < 1264182122 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this robot language is pretty hard to program in though < 1264182231 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what site < 1264182245 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom, http://robozzle.com < 1264182257 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1264182261 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1264182347 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-87-162.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1264182358 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will up the techdemo joke soon < 1264182433 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@71.216.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264182450 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :techdemo joke == First-person RoboZZle, right? < 1264182660 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1264182666 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... oh my < 1264182804 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264182872 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the techdemo < 1264182872 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really no < 1264182873 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264182876 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns 10 times in a second < 1264182880 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for langton's ant < 1264182898 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, sgeo < 1264182902 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat ya by 10 < 1264182918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, I haven't been playing with it for an hour or two < 1264183396 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264184216 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Learning Stack 2 looks interesting < 1264184218 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But tricky < 1264184221 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf|away < 1264184271 0 :scarf|away!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :scarf < 1264184288 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it was much different from Learning Stack no-number. < 1264184292 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels like he needs another function
< 1264184333 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still can't do turn around
< 1264184346 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION solved that one, but forgot how
< 1264184398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh MissPiggy = soupdragon < 1264184404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1264184659 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use the colors in turn around? < 1264184701 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can spoil Turn around for you if you want. < 1264184705 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1264184727 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should stop asking about it < 1264184741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, I didn't have any colors there. It's only blue squares, after all, and no paints. < 1264184763 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but them being in the palette made me think it was maybe an evil trick < 1264184922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only time the conditionals aren't present is in the tutorial < 1264184958 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh that was a nasty one!! < 1264184970 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking it must be about recursion but it wasn't < 1264184978 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264185128 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, fizzie is at 72 < 1264185133 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only at 54 < 1264185136 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did the turn around one < 1264185164 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, what's your username? < 1264185178 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, FireFly I think < 1264185183 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to resort to the JS version, though < 1264185197 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant I got bored after a while < 1264185931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :js version of what? < 1264185948 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com/ < 1264185950 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of that < 1264185963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, is there a plain html version? < 1264185969 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1264185986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then, what is it about < 1264185990 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be kinda hard to do that < 1264185995 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, has to eat < 1264186002 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1264186003 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have* < 1264186005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does one need to login? < 1264186007 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1264186023 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264186029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so where is the manual < 1264186032 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to keep track of which puzzles you've solved, and eventually be able to submit your own puzzles, yes < 1264186044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what are the controls and such? < 1264186046 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, in the Silverlight version, there are tutorials < 1264186053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I don't use that < 1264186056 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqBVWi_Pc0 < 1264186060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm at most using javascript < 1264186070 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a video, you should be able to survive http://robozzle.com/js with that < 1264186092 0 :lieuwe!i=3efb65d9@gateway/web/freenode/x-uqnufnzthjbsvjuj JOIN :#esoteric < 1264186103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, meh. not worth it if they can't put up half a screen worth's of description < 1264186112 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: There's not that much of commands. < 1264186118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The wiki has the basic ones listed. < 1264186124 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wroth getting silverlight, as much as I hate to admit it < 1264186130 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what wiki? < 1264186131 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.robozzle.com/wiki/ < 1264186145 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Painting's not mentioned there, though. < 1264186167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :painting? < 1264186170 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy: And on Linux? < 1264186176 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Moonlight! < 1264186181 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've tried it under that, actually. < 1264186199 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, i'm thinking about high-level esolangs, and i decided i should try to make one, but i can't really come up with anything :-p any help? < 1264186199 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go-mono.com was down earlier so I assumed it was dead < 1264186201 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk < 1264186202 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it's back up < 1264186209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does moonlight work on freebsd on ppc? (please don't ask why I'm on that atm) < 1264186236 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux + x86(_64) only < 1264186238 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Re painting, you can change the colors of the squares on some levels. < 1264186251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but isn't mono supposed to be portable < 1264186272 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything about mono or moonlight < 1264186426 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lieuwe: There's a list of ideas on the esolang wiki, and on my site < 1264186427 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tree III was fun. < 1264186457 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Moonlight 1.0 available in [FreeBSD] ports" < 1264186463 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course 1.0 is not exactly new. < 1264186471 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the above was in March 2009. < 1264186498 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lieuwe: http://esolangs.org/wiki/List_of_ideas < 1264186737 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonlight doesn't seem to work well at all, at least for me + robozzle. < 1264186771 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is not very surprising. < 1264186888 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make an esolang that works on audio cassettes < 1264186892 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god for javascript, I guess. < 1264186892 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with analogue data < 1264187080 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264187212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star studded path I was the first one that slightly felt like programming < 1264187242 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i actually made a subroutine that means something < 1264187248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get back on the path" < 1264187252 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I find taht? < 1264187273 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has done 40 levels
< 1264187339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: They get more programmatic at the end; I haven't done these at all systematically. < 1264187364 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy: You've done 62, according to the scoreboard. < 1264187379 0 :MigoMipo!n=migomipo@84-217-8-147.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264187405 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1264187460 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: already searched the one on the wiki, i'll have a look at your site... < 1264187557 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: wait, whats the link :-p < 1264187668 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye.tc < 1264187712 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lieuwe: at the bottom of the ideas list on the esowiki < 1264187727 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/cpressey/louie.html < 1264187732 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only four ideas there though < 1264187753 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i have others in my notes < 1264187758 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: i'll have a look < 1264187772 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i am probably never going to do, and so might show up on that page at some point < 1264187806 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: mostly low-level ideas... < 1264187809 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news, in light of what scarf pointed out a few days ago, it's likely Burro is not Turing-complete < 1264187846 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lieuwe: yeah, low-level tends to be more popular in the eso world. < 1264187851 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1264187852 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: too bad... < 1264187895 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more, a genuinely new idea is easier to do low- than high- levle < 1264187896 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: çause i found a nice python lib in which you can easiely create high-level parsers 'n such < 1264187897 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*level < 1264187910 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and syntax is the least important part of an esolang < 1264187926 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: ooh, them's fightin' words :) < 1264187944 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I wouldn't expect you, of all people, to disagree < 1264187954 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your esolangs are all about substance over syntax, I rather like them as a result < 1264187990 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: well, it's true that languages like Ook! are basically ignorable < 1264187992 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1264188026 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would hesitate to say that syntax is always the least important part of a language design. < 1264188038 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: high level ftw! < 1264188055 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's important, but I think the other parts are more important < 1264188072 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for instance, burro would be slightly visually nicer if {\} was (\), even if that made it harder to parse) < 1264188103 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a different note, i'm trying to build a universal-ish esolang compiler in python and was wondering if i could get sum halp with it, especially with implementing new langs... < 1264188135 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not enitrely sure it's obvious that burro is likely sub-TC, by the way < 1264188158 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think (don't quote me on this) that I think the most important part of an esolang is astonishment. Just playing with syntax isn't very astonishing, except to inexperienced programmers maybe. Playing with semantics is where the bigger impact lies. But -- that doesn't mean that there aren't astonishing things you can do with syntax. < 1264188202 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I have a similar opinion; what makes a language esoteric is that it seems absurd < 1264188209 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being absurd to a regular programmer is slightly esoteric < 1264188217 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being absurd even to a regular esolanger is very esoteric < 1264188238 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: well, nor am I, but Burro relies on that "reduce all while loops to one big while loop" transform, but like brainfuck it needs loops to do AND and OR, so I think it falls short. < 1264188260 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absurd, yeah, also a good word. < 1264188264 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, idea, thinking about an exception-based language, that could be fun...(runs off mumbling something about try-except blocks) < 1264188266 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you nest conditionals? < 1264188276 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also useful to keep in mind that, to a non-programming, all programming languages are esoteric :) < 1264188281 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*non-programmer < 1264188283 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, instead of if (a && b), do if (a) if (b) < 1264188304 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: hm, yes maybe you can. been a while since i looked at it. < 1264188356 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dares fizzie and oklopol to do http://robozzle.com/puzzle.aspx?id=102
< 1264188387 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally, Reversible Brainfuck takes a similar path to Burro, except it uses a reversible sort of loop rather than storing state about which branch was used) < 1264188407 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ If the current cell is nonzero, jump forwards to just after the matching ]. < 1264188437 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the opposite to what [ normally does in BF, and means that there's enough info to reverse a loop) < 1264188441 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ] is unchanged) < 1264188464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not there yet. < 1264188513 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmkkIBjHlI - nnngh < 1264188520 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fake first person robozzle techdemo < 1264188660 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka, post it to the forum? < 1264188695 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not now < 1264188700 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think it's any good, btw < 1264188901 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes < 1264188995 0 :lieuwe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1264189028 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to make an esolang based on some old storage medium < 1264189036 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i use, though < 1264189064 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :punched cards < 1264189089 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1264189093 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i need a reader for these < 1264189100 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuz i want to code on actual punched cards < 1264189191 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: you could build one with a couple of lights, photocells, comparators... < 1264189203 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't solder < 1264189204 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1264189206 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, afk < 1264189206 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need to make your own oversize punch cards or paper tape < 1264189328 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: Do you think it would be possible to show that the set of Reversible Brainfuck programs forms a group (under computational equivalence -- like Burro)? because i wasn't thinking of reversibility at all when I designed Burro, and now I'm wondering if the two notions are equivalent (or how close they are if not) < 1264189356 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: they're pretty close notions, at least < 1264189372 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :program concatenation is an operation that makes most 1d reversible languages into groups < 1264189398 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it associates, and has an inverse if you have a reversible language < 1264189418 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but i can also imagine some reversible programs that aren't groups -- for example, if several programs have the same, non-unique annihilator < 1264189429 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversible languages, i mean < 1264189434 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't reversible, because then you couldn't reverse the annihilator < 1264189441 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i suppose not. < 1264189474 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's the inverse of {a\b} in burro? < 1264189493 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been too long for me to remember :) < 1264189499 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to say in the article < 1264189511 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it alone might be illegal? < 1264189512 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hard to see that there is one, without being able to retroactively determine which branch it took < 1264189522 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, it alone is illegal < 1264189536 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that means you aren't properly creating a group < 1264189561 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a(b/c)d has an inverse, but its inverse can't be used as a program in its own right < 1264189591 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your composition operator isn't defined for all pairs of set elements < 1264189598 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1264189673 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie solved 86 puzzles already?! < 1264189736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1264189829 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: Not sure. Is a(b/c)d legal by itself? I'd have to check. < 1264189859 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguely remember something about (){} needing to balance in order to be syntactically ok < 1264189873 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll look it up later when i have more time :) < 1264189878 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is < 1264189881 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1264189887 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was massively busy earlier today myself, and now I'm resting < 1264189891 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a deadline got bumped < 1264190003 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! Did Learning Stack 2! < 1264190098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that the one where you use the stack in the same way as in every other level? :P < 1264190117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move once after you return < 1264190119 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: At least the same way as in Learning Stack no-number. < 1264190135 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least 10 puzzles have used the exact same idea < 1264190146 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: To be completely honest, I did a couple of the low-difficulty ones outside the campaign list to keep my name high on the list. < 1264190168 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing a lot of low-difficulties outside the campaign list < 1264190200 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw some forum post suggesting that the campaign list was hand-picked in an effort to stop newbies from getting fed up with poorly designed and repeptitive puzzles < 1264190201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did have to do some twiddling in Second kind of memory (109); there were so few command slots available there. < 1264190221 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The campaign list has had some rather duplicatey entries too, though. < 1264190221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are levels outside campaign? < 1264190230 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Select one of the other sort orders. < 1264190254 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are different levels? < 1264190261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed they were different sort orders < 1264190270 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those list all the levels, instead of just the short-ish campaign list. < 1264190292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rank-1 person in the "most solved" scoreboard has 1274 puzzles solved, so... < 1264190297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264190298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1264190318 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, look how many pages there are in campaign, then choose one of the other orderings < 1264190416 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done 78 from the campaign list, if my grep is correct. < 1264191078 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, about the paper blocks: Would "if blue paint blue" etc. be included? < 1264191084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally pointless < 1264191306 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another speed control" was at least a bit of fun. < 1264191360 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264191640 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264192213 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone in here submit any puzzles? < 1264192280 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, anyone planning to? < 1264192289 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264192333 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do anything cooler than the ant < 1264192340 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :langtons ant < 1264192571 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... < 1264192633 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://robozzle.com < 1264192669 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr. I was once at the top of the 24h scoreboard < 1264192732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i hate you :P < 1264192740 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi zzo38 < 1264192757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm more afraid of Deewiant, i hear he's a total gamer < 1264192770 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1264192775 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl < 1264192776 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much of a puzzle gamer < 1264192781 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how someone can play 1274 maps of this game????? < 1264192805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, presumably the person solved them faster than people put out new ones < 1264192831 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does want to see esolanger levels
< 1264192858 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at least I'll have indirectly contributed something by having introduced talented people to the game. < 1264192866 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1264192973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you reach the stars was fun < 1264193002 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cryptography is outlawed, 15XoZhnZ5ct8t9nVhROExQVTvILP59DdJ5Ob8D2yEXo=. < 1264193009 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was. < 1264193031 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I find that? < 1264193042 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, http://robozzle.com/puzzles.aspx < 1264193074 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number 14, fwiw. < 1264193090 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this looks hard < 1264193154 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- "The house is small", I said. < 1264193157 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- "Never open the attic", said every child (reciting Egbert's third memorandum). < 1264193161 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- "Eat sausages", said a great emperor. < 1264193463 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If dada is outlawed, sturgeon. < 1264193613 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, ya.... < 1264193966 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do that < 1264194002 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there doesn't seem to be any pattern to it < 1264194182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need any special "pattern", just let the colors guide you. (If this is about reach the stars.) < 1264194209 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colors don't guide you : < 1264194210 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1264194328 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hm maybe I see the pattern < 1264194340 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do it column by column, maybe < 1264194348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1264194355 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1264194543 0 :jpc!n=jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264194793 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :class AbstractFacadeBuilderFactoryFactorySingletonFactoryBridge < 1264194910 0 :Nanakhiel!n=Lajla@213-84-222-243.adsl.xs4all.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1264194967 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that's even worse than ORK < 1264194979 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there should be an esolang that takes design patterns to an absurd extent < 1264194998 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You had me at 'SingletonFactory'..." < 1264195051 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a singleton factory could be useful on a heavily overloaded object < 1264195061 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you're only ever going to make one of it < 1264195206 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Since this definition is tail-recursive, a loop can be used to replace the recursion." *sigh* < 1264195385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, oklopol fizzie, igoro is in #robozzle < 1264195501 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Imma call that "lambda". < 1264195751 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those messages about house is small and so on, it is a special kind of word game, now figure it out < 1264195797 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 ;_; < 1264195806 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know how to start < 1264195859 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1264195928 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, zzo38, I thought you were just being weird. Now I'm all disappointed an' stuff. < 1264195949 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct void_ptr {void_ptr(void*p):p(p){};templateoperator T*() const {return (T*)p;};void *p;} < 1264195950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MOCK YOU, C++ TYPE SYSTEM. < 1264195953 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I am just being weird, too. But it is also a special kind of word game. < 1264196085 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In page 45 of the 2600 26:4 I can see the address for Michael E. Short, the address for the prison in Texas is half of 2600 < 1264196103 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The part before "FM", what does "FM" stand for in Texas prison addresses, anyways?) < 1264196122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, make that: < 1264196134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct void_ptr {template void_ptr(T*p):p((void*)p){};templateoperator T*() const {return (T*)p;};void *p;} < 1264196195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, did you implement support for that "befunge 98 without the stuff also in befunge 93" mode in ccbi? < 1264196243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you made a puzzle and didn't tell us? < 1264196391 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out what FM is for, it is for Farm-to-market road. < 1264196418 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1264196434 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264196555 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1264196555 0 :clog!n=nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1264196786 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, I didn't, and as I said, I won't. < 1264196795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there's enormous popular demand for it. :-P < 1264196800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My network died. < 1264196804 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it seems now, that at least one of the people writing to 2600 from prison has not actually committed a crime. This is what I thought at first, too. But now I checked. < 1264196854 0 :Fredrik1994!n=FIQ@unaffiliated/fiq JOIN :#esoteric < 1264196882 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that there are rotary payphones in Japan? < 1264196955 0 :MigoMipo!n=migomipo@84-217-8-147.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1264197080 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you didn't accidentally enter the city's Britaintown did you? < 1264197096 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kinda like Chinatown) < 1264197155 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never there, actually. The phone was in 2600. It was found in the lobby of a hotel in rural Suzuka. And the labels on the phone are still in Japanese. < 1264197187 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen pictures of other pink rotary payphones in Japan, too. < 1264197203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ... *Britaintown*? < 1264197301 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever < 1264197346 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Japan really has the number of poor British immigrants to cause ghettoisation in that form < 1264197704 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/fortune/fortune.php?browse=24914 < 1264197950 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other pictures of payphones include: Phones where the handset (and sometimes also the keypad) have been removed, making the phone unusable (found in United States). < 1264197979 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a picture of Chinese payphones found in some part of the United States with no connection to the Chinese at all. < 1264198032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think I figured out what FM is for, it is for Farm-to-market road. <-- usually it means frequency modulation though? < 1264198107 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but this is a address in Texas. Addresses in Texas certainly can't be frequency modulation, isn't it?? < 1264198147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : zzo38: you didn't accidentally enter the city's Britaintown did you? <-- that isn't exclusively UK though. At least US has them too iirc. Not sure if Sweden does (don't think so, could be wrong) < 1264198199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, why not, there is a "radiator street" in a nearby industrial part of this town < 1264198264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and near Ericson (they have a factory near here) there is "Telephony road" < 1264198291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, and isn't there "Microsoft road" near MS HQ? < 1264198315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I fail to see why you couldn't have "FM street" or such < 1264198321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well? < 1264198368 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One Microsoft Way < 1264198381 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no double meaning there. < 1264198402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, XD < 1264198421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, you put the number in front in US < 1264198422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1264198424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how very strange < 1264198432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Swedish we would say the number after < 1264198434 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1264198444 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1313 Mockingbird Lane < 1264198444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, US also use PDP-endianness for dates ;P < 1264198457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Storgatan 1 < 1264198476 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apartment number comes after: 1313 Mockingbird Lane, Suite 301. < 1264198483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means "[The, but as a suffix in Swedish] Great-streat 1" < 1264198498 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose you put the suite number in front :0 < 1264198499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very common street name for main streets around here < 1264198507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, suite numnber? < 1264198510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :number*? < 1264198516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what that is < 1264198517 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the answer to your questions < 1264198518 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apartment number < 1264198524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for apartment number < 1264198525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1264198529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it based on name < 1264198537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how that works < 1264198544 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apartment = suite, more or less < 1264198545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a detached house < 1264198566 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Korean addresses are really mind-blowing < 1264198572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well it was you who questioned me "Addresses in Texas certainly can't be frequency modulation, isn't it??" < 1264198588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, oh? In what way? < 1264198671 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're more strict in the hierarchy, it looks like: you need to include the ward in the city, and the neighbourhood in the ward < 1264198680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1264198687 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't as strange as i thought it would be < 1264198690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, not just postal code? < 1264198702 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh they want those too! < 1264198707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well? < 1264198707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1264198748 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In D&D, you have to think ahead not only more than the DM, but also more than yourself. It is necessary to figure out plans for stuff that I don't even know what it is, yet. < 1264198820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Damn, zzo38, I thought you were just being weird. Now I'm all disappointed an' stuff. <-- still disappointed? < 1264198839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when was that word game? < 1264198895 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:45:54 < 1264198910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what timezone? < 1264198927 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The timezone that the log software uses. < 1264198937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I use local logs < 1264198943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are on UTC < 1264198953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb will check in a bit < 1264199330 0 :tombom_!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1264199391 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1264199576 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1264199669 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Konversation terminated!" < 1264199709 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION works on more puzzles
< 1264199788 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding "Britaintown", I said that because I can imagine people getting more nostalgic over britain from decades ago than USA from the same time... maybe < 1264199954 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on, no one's talking about RoboZZle now? < 1264200434 0 :Fredrik1994!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FIQ < 1264200543 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Network is unreachable < 1264200977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :garlic: the base of all properly composed meals < 1264201001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, it isn't very esoteric is it? < 1264201022 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Turing-complete, apparently < 1264201023 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1264201061 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not esoteric? < 1264201109 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, RoboZZle < 1264201116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to AnMaster < 1264201121 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well you should play the tree search one < 1264201137 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me or AnMaster? < 1264201145 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is playing RRB, RRG
< 1264201169 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like programming in assembly? < 1264201174 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't think so < 1264201226 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solved it with a spare in F2! < 1264201423 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are often completely unnecessary functions. < 1264201459 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that having extra space can make it harder. If you see 4 spaces, you know the solution has to be somewhat simple. < 1264201472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you see 10 spaces, you might try more complex, less correct things < 1264201485 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though my RRB, RRG was the whole 9 slots; 8 seems to be the smallest known. < 1264201570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :started doing the bigger list in order, how are you supposed to do paint the town red, i solved it, but i can't find a way to use the paint < 1264201590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, join us! < 1264201621 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the ones in campaign mode, it's not that frequent < 1264201625 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or then i just suck < 1264201692 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Well, I've done things very much out-of-order, maybe I've just hit on the ones with extra spaces. Quite many puzzles at least seem to have multiple-length solutions submitted. < 1264201696 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should do some statistics. < 1264201728 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which order are you doing the bigger list? < 1264201774 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying not many have an *extra function* < 1264201792 0 :FIQ!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"- nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -" < 1264201802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like every third has extra space < 1264201828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Oh, right. Well, yes, maybe it's not *that* common; but it's not so ultra-rare either. < 1264201844 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Was 1634 yours, or was this some other deewiant? < 1264201882 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because -- speaking of extra functions -- it has unnecessary f3 and f4 there. :p < 1264201886 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably mine. < 1264201900 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, I'm not that smart. < 1264201925 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.robozzle.com/puzzle.aspx?id=1634 -- the 7-length solution, or at least mine, does it with just f1 and f2. < 1264201977 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it was a good level, I had to use the whole program space though < 1264201992 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did 247 in 11 and got annoyed when I saw the wallhugger in the wiki so I did that one < 1264202046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have done 247 in length 6, but I don't remember what it was like. < 1264202056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose the game saves the submitted solutions anywhere accessible? < 1264202080 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubtful. < 1264202097 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: In which order are you doing the bigger list? < 1264202115 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm jelous of fizzies high level of skill re this game < 1264202116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a nice feature < 1264202126 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie igoro2 (the creator) is in @robozzle < 1264202129 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#robozle < 1264202133 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#robozzle < 1264202164 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's supposedly a person. I don't think I do well with people. < 1264202185 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a rumor < 1264202210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, make a feature suggestion? < 1264202216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think easiest to hardest :) < 1264202236 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I imagine storing each solution would take a lot of space. < 1264202246 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1264202260 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if reddit decided to come by? < 1264202262 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the average size of a solution is probably around 10-20 bytes. < 1264202274 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's without any compression. < 1264202292 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If reddit comes by you might have to store a whole megabyte more than usual. < 1264202294 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Storing each submitted solution, maybe, but the shortest one from each registered user -- it already stores the length of that. < 1264202296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if everyone in the world started playing, you might need a few gigs. < 1264202318 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes, if it remembers all your failures that'd be expensive. < 1264202324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt anybody cares about them anyway. :-P < 1264202355 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about multiple shortest solutions for each user? < 1264202373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to post a feature suggestion to the forums
< 1264202375 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it could let you store 3 solutions per puzzle. < 1264202379 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something like that. < 1264202409 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or give some way for people to put encrypted solutions in forum sigs as text? < 1264202420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe only decryptable if you have solved the same puzzle? < 1264202471 0 :tombom__!i=tombom@86.25.49.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1264202487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC, join in the fun? < 1264202507 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1264203059 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1264203163 0 :tombom__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1264203202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking fizzie < 1264203203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1264203205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264203212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly like 2 points ahead of me < 1264203223 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I was about to say the same to you. Constantly just about to go past! < 1264203235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you have like 10 browsers open, and just press run every time you see i've solved something. < 1264203267 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got frustrated with an almost-solution to 1633 and stopped, so knock yourselves out. < 1264203338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am going to have to sleep soon, anyway, have to take an early trip to IIKEA tomorrow. < 1264203425 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1264203458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1264203469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1264203471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sleep < 1264203472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1264203492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tons of homework to do < 1264203492 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before sleeps < 1264203493 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are way too many flip-flop-likes < 1264203497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, good. < 1264203574 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will we do tomorrow, when we all drop off of the 24h list? < 1264203583 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will we just keep reloading eachother's profiles? < 1264203590 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1264203594 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do another 100, of course. < 1264203682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet another trivial stack puzzle *sigh* < 1264203716 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're thinking with stacks! < 1264203738 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do some homework :[ < 1264203760 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RoboZZle is a thief of time < 1264203812 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my perspective, seems like RoboZZle is crack < 1264203816 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sgeo: I store all solutions on the server, but I don't expose the ability to get back at them. I'll look into it!" < 1264203880 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, try it! >:D < 1264204039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you start doing the simple ones or what the fuck is going on? < 1264204061 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The simple ones. :p < 1264204100 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started doing the simple ones earlier but I managed to get stuck on some of the sub-1.5 ones for up to 15 minutes occasionally so it didn't help too much < 1264204119 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been there < 1264204174 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always forget to look beyond the random details, because i usually assume everything is relevant in a puzzle < 1264204185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's not a very professional puzzle < 1264204229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god i hate the ones with a huge, random level, and just a few slots < 1264204269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those were usually easy: just grab the pattern from the first three or so grid cells and it probably works for the whole map :-P < 1264204371 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1264204387 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I came across a puzzle like that < 1264204399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've come across six or so < 1264204416 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe for the ones that scare me, I should try seeing if that applies < 1264204431 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their difficulty ratings will be below 2 < 1264204455 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the "easy" ones that scare me < 1264204471 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as siika da FuUU < 1264204474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll skip it < 1264204482 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the siika ones were such IIRC < 1264204501 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i mostly hate them because they are pointless < 1264204510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pointless the amount of points in them is negative < 1264204532 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kahen kilon siika < 1264204532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they're annoying < 1264204537 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1264204548 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an example of an annoying meme *and* an annoying level < 1264204550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well set of levels < 1264204579 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1264204594 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People seem to like them < 1264204649 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't like or dislike anything in the js version :-P < 1264204689 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, then use Silverlight or Moonlight < 1264204694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1264204695 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moonlight didn't work as I said < 1264204725 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want to write something on the forums? http://robozzle.com/forums/ < 1264204727 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it worked partially, but e.g. logging in didn't happen. < 1264204732 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in particular. < 1264204735 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care. < 1264204751 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-139.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric