< 1266192021 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also consider the fact that its entirely possible to have an INTRANSITIVE verb, lets say blump < 1266192022 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that < 1266192044 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if john is blumping, then john is kissing someone allergic to peanuts < 1266192134 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is making allergen an argument to the verb < 1266192209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban does that all the time btw < 1266192215 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blumping? < 1266192221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean < 1266192222 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blump all the time too! < 1266192224 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1266192257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well me too, but i mean most lojban verbs have all sorts of args, and you can cherrypick any subset of them to use < 1266192262 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that we're abusing that term < 1266192267 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1266192288 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also consider that like < 1266192291 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < 1266192305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's the same thing, even if you put "fo" before the argument to say "this is not the usual argument you'd see here" < 1266192307 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"john blumped mary" cannot mean "john kissed mary, who is allergic to peanuts" < 1266192341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could mean "john kissed mary, making her allergic to peanuts" < 1266192341 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well see, having an overt marker like 'fo' is different < 1266192347 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is? < 1266192348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want a language which cannot express statements that are false in logic < 1266192350 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its essentially just an argument < 1266192350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1266192362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not just a mere declaration "X is syntactically invalid", just that it is impossible to formulate. < 1266192364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is such a thing possible? < 1266192370 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that the word itself, with no option for a marker < 1266192373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not; the syntax would need to have magic knowledge of every proof. < 1266192383 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: sure it is < 1266192384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you could encode the proof into the syntactic structure, perhaps. < 1266192410 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would only work for some certain kind of falsity < 1266192413 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. mathematical falsity < 1266192415 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or contradictions < 1266192443 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and such a language would be, for instance, the language of all non-contradictions in logic < 1266192468 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really just logic. < 1266192476 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a consistent one, anyway. < 1266192490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye, but syntactically < 1266192492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in logic, I can say < 1266192495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p & ~p < 1266192499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's untrue, but I can formulate it < 1266192507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could declare "any false statement is a syntax error", but I mean rather in the sense < 1266192510 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can formulate it, if by formulate you mean "write the symbols" < 1266192511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you thought of p & ~p < 1266192517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and followed the normal process of logical expression -> language < 1266192519 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would run into a dead end < 1266192522 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but p & ~p CANNOT be formulated from the AXIOMS of your logic < 1266192529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write the symbols, yes < 1266192531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what I mean < 1266192540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of just saying < 1266192542 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but your axioms happen to be nothing more than the grammar of some higher order language < 1266192543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :false things are syntax errors < 1266192548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be < 1266192553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the algorithm for logic statement -> language < 1266192556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you feed it a false statement < 1266192561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without any special checks for that; < 1266192567 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but alise, my point is < 1266192568 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it doesn't do | ifFalse x = lolerror) < 1266192571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just runs into a dead end < 1266192573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and goes all _|_ < 1266192589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the ultimate rationalist's language < 1266192607 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a consistent logic is merely a particular sort of grammar < 1266192617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One would simply be unable to express any false thought in it; all that is said will be either true, or nonsense in the same way that "If the ;fdg" is in English. < 1266192623 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what logic is, after all, a grammar for a particular language < 1266192634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but is it practical to define such a language? < 1266192640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could humans learn it, even if communication in it would be slow? < 1266192643 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wouldnt be possible for a human to learn < 1266192644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and possibly require translation) < 1266192648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not really learn < 1266192652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but memorise the algorithm to speak in it < 1266192681 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its possible for people to consciously learn pretty much anything < 1266192685 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesnt make it language < 1266192718 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because i can speak in lisp doesnt mean that my brain is treating lisp remotely like its treating english < 1266192740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't consciously learn to fly tho < 1266192753 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true. < 1266192755 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really want to become fluent in a programming language < 1266192763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe people can be fluent in Perl; nay, I believe people /are/ fluent in Perl. < 1266192775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the entire range of Perl programs, just like most English speakers aren't poets. < 1266192777 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like they are with a natural language < 1266192779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a good subset of it. < 1266192783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Why not? Perl is close. < 1266192804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say "Hello, world" if $appliance->on; < 1266192812 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say "Hello, world" if the appliance's on. < 1266192824 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1266192825 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about perl, but python is certainly easier to speak in than natural languages, there's just a slight lack of vocabulary < 1266192841 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thats a) a subset, and b) not exactly underived FROM a natural language < 1266192852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Languages borrow from each other. < 1266192857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in python, you never have to think, you just start typing < 1266192871 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but being fluent in a programming language thats derived from a natural language isnt really all that interesting, is it < 1266192891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while ($appliance->on) { say for @todo_list } < 1266192909 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While the appliance's on, speak for each item in todo list. < 1266192916 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes it is < 1266192918 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're not really fluent in the programming language < 1266192922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means you can express your thoughts to the computer incredibly naturally < 1266192929 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its more that the computer is fluent in that (subset) of your natural language. < 1266192931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Perlists seem to be incredibly good with their idioms < 1266192949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not so sure you can claim outright that nobody is fluent in a useful, common subset of PErl. < 1266192951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Perl < 1266192957 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but the point is that those idioms are parasitic on your pre-existing competence in english < 1266192964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The differences between it and natural languages aren't that big. < 1266192966 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Of course. < 1266192973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're still /different/. < 1266192979 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1266192996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they were invented idioms of the same general lax form, I bet you could learn it to a similar degree of fluency; with tens to hundreds of times the effort, yes. < 1266192998 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if theyre different in ways that arent impossible in natural language, all you've done is become fluent in a natural language that happens to not be natural. < 1266193009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But just as you can learn English idioms, idioms of the same form are learnable too, whether they're in a programming language or not. < 1266193012 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real question is could someone be fluent in something like Forth < 1266193016 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is decidedly unnatural < 1266193029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is SOV really that unnatural < 1266193035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it OSV, dunno < 1266193037 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not that Forth is SOV < 1266193041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 3 - => 2 - 3 < 1266193042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so SOV < 1266193042 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its that forth is stack oriented < 1266193054 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOV languages are by far the most common < 1266193059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: good Forth has a small stack, though. < 1266193071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never does thing ............... verb < 1266193074 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. in principle it could be arbitrarily large < 1266193079 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in _principle_ anyway < 1266193088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write sentences that mention a thing, go on a million tangents, then continue talking about that thing in english too < 1266193093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean fluency in english is impossible < 1266193105 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. example < 1266193152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1266193214 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, its not like you dont get big constructions like that in natural language, right. SOV languages notoriously have deeply nested things like that. but what im talking about is GENUINELY stack oriented. not merely SOV with large things between the S/O and the V < 1266193217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The oranges, which were the cause of a gross incident in 1794 when Tom, who was a rat in a band primarily targeted towards the 8-12 horse-lover market, died after eating one that looked incredibly delicious, though this was in fact unwise as the turtles that pooped them out actually made sure they were poisonous, as they positively hated turtles, though, of course, Tom was completely oblivious to this fact when he digested them, were eaten. < 1266193246 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. with stack operations like swap, rotate, duplicate, etc. < 1266193257 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rot is bad Forth style < 1266193266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Lojban has things similar to swap and rot < 1266193271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1266193272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dup < 1266193272 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. i wasnt using forth itself as a good example of this. < 1266193276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can specify argument position and I'm sure you can say "again" for an argument) < 1266193286 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the point is that genuine stack orientedness seems VERY difficult for people to grasp < 1266193295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do think if Forth's vocabulary was about the world rather than a computer, it would be possible to be fluent in it. < 1266193325 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesnt seem to be the case, however. < 1266193338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannibals their species members dup eat do < 1266193350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1266193352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me rewrite that < 1266193361 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup itself actually wouldnt be enormously complicated, to be honest < 1266193367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannibals their species members dup eat are-those-that < 1266193369 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just kinda like very local reflexivity < 1266193378 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1266193378 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like < 1266193380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is hard < 1266193383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their species members dup eat < 1266193392 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannibals species their members dup eat < 1266193397 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Members of their species eat members of their species" < 1266193402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: right < 1266193412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also note that idiomatic forth actually reads in english style :) < 1266193420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, SVO < 1266193424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the typical style of coding < 1266193438 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if japanese idiomatic forth reads more SOV < 1266193449 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think anyone writes japanese idiomatic forth < 1266193454 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunate. < 1266193459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would bet it doesnt look like SOV at all. < 1266193465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think the vocab shapes it < 1266193466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lang < 1266193467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1266193476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SVO presumably has properties that make implementation, and the use of it, superior < 1266193478 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better question tho is whether or not such a limitation would be because of MEMORY or because of grammar < 1266193483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise forthers would just accept the rpn; they do for arithmetic < 1266193490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway dup would be useful in everyday speech < 1266193493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1266193498 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we sort of DO have dupe < 1266193499 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup < 1266193503 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called a reflexive < 1266193510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I read it and dup and dup, but I still didn't understand it." < 1266193520 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1266193550 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in forth, < 1266193557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i it read dup and dup and < 1266193561 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the dup's doing there tho < 1266193567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., you get i-read-it on the stack, then you get i-read-it i-read-it < 1266193569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you and it < 1266193573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-read-it-and-i-read-it < 1266193575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again < 1266193577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-read-it-and-i-read-it-and-i-read-it < 1266193578 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1266193582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I read it and read it and read it, but I still didn't understand it." < 1266193585 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266193605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you'd have four readings < 1266193607 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whatever < 1266193616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1266193627 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're duping "i-read-it-and-i-read-it" < 1266193631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1266193634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1266193635 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway < 1266193644 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1266193652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, why would dup duplicated the whole stack < 1266193656 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can SORT of do that < 1266193661 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*duplicate < 1266193662 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: its not the whole stack < 1266193665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1266193670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it concatenate its result < 1266193672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1266193672 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the top most syntactic object, which is a conjunction in this case < 1266193678 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, according to ehird. < 1266193685 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the why have a stack < 1266193687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*alise < 1266193687 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway < 1266193691 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1266193696 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: for multiple values < 1266193700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oranges sam ate < 1266193702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oranges < 1266193703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oranges sam < 1266193704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean < 1266193706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sam-ate-oranges < 1266193708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like OSV < 1266193712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's poetic. :P < 1266193718 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, I know, don't start) < 1266193720 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, we do sort of have dup < 1266193726 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that you have reflexives < 1266193730 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if dup is o => o+o instead of o => o, o; that's just not very stacky < 1266193733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: like? < 1266193736 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "john hit himself" ~ john dup hit < 1266193737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dup is o => o o < 1266193745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it i read dup and < 1266193745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1266193746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1266193747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it i < 1266193748 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1266193750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-read-it < 1266193752 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-read-it i-read-it < 1266193753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you clearly aren't following this conversation < 1266193754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i-read-it-and-i-read-it < 1266193772 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, some languages mark reflexivity on the verb < 1266193780 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is a marker essentially like < 1266193787 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :john duphit < 1266193788 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266193801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack oriented is easy to read if you actively visualize everything < 1266193819 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except reflexivity is extraordinarily flexible in what can be reflexivized < 1266193829 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean actually visualize a stack of those objects < 1266193839 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: thats exactly the point < 1266193846 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to visualize this shit to understand it < 1266193854 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is NOT the case with natural language < 1266193865 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont have to even THINK about what someone says to just understand it < 1266193869 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure i do < 1266193878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you dont, stop being obstinate < 1266193880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i often have to translate sentences to logic < 1266193885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use inference rules < 1266193887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no seriously < 1266193897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: when will you realise that *oklopol* *is* *not* *human* < 1266193898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get ove rit < 1266193900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*over it < 1266193908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't make your rules apply to him just because you say they do < 1266193912 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: :P < 1266193917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your theory works on humans, not oklopol < 1266193919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give up < 1266193930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol just likes being contrarian < 1266193930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean sure, sometimes i can read sentences without thinking, just like i can sometimes read code or math without thinking < 1266193948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just as often, i need to do some intermediate steps < 1266193951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I'm pretty sure his cognitive structure is different to most people's. < 1266193954 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little does he realize how little he actually knows about what is going on in his mind < 1266193960 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1266193975 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I've never found anyone with the same configuration, so I hereby deem it oklism. < 1266194019 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1266194046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"augur: little does he realize how little he actually knows about what is going on in his mind" <<< this is very insulting < 1266194063 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed < 1266194083 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, its just a fact. humans are barely aware of whats actually going on in their brains. < 1266194084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think augur is a bit too certain of the universal applicability of mainstream linguistics < 1266194094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: if oklopol reads a sentence, can't understand it < 1266194096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translates it to logic < 1266194098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and understands it < 1266194102 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not saying that doesnt happen < 1266194104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then his brain clearly didn't understand it until that happened < 1266194114 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens plenty for lots of people < 1266194117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's also a fact i often need to translate sentences to logic, very explicitly, to see what they mean. < 1266194134 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i actually visualize the simplification of the sentence < 1266194137 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you didnt translate the sentence you just said FROM logic into english. < 1266194148 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor the one i just said INTO logic < 1266194158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said often < 1266194159 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not always < 1266194164 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thats the point! < 1266194164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i didn't, i don't always have to do that, just like i usually don't have to think about what python line to write, or how to manipulate some algebraic expression. < 1266194177 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1266194187 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this is stupid < 1266194191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could be more like oklopol i would < 1266194193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...up to a certain point < 1266194229 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's very stupid to tell me how i think. < 1266194233 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1266194243 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very stupid to think you know how you think :P < 1266194252 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, did you get those pictures, or is that irrelevant now? < 1266194254 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :words to live by < 1266194259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's probably irrelevant for now < 1266194261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but it's not stupid of me to tell you facts about how i think. < 1266194272 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you dont KNOW the facts about how you think < 1266194274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't claim to understand it < 1266194274 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the point < 1266194283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's oklopol, he's not human anyway < 1266194283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "the facts", some facts < 1266194302 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1266194329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : augur: when will you realise that *oklopol* *is* *not* *human* < 1266194329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : just get ove rit < 1266194329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : *over it < 1266194329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can't make your rules apply to him just because you say they do < 1266194329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : alise: :P < 1266194330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : your theory works on humans, not oklopol < 1266194331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : give up < 1266194334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he didn't listen < 1266194339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"augur: oklopol, you didnt translate the sentence you just said FROM logic into english." <<< i usually picture an arrow from logic to english to see what way the objects map < 1266194342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( augur: I'm pretty sure his cognitive structure is different to most people's. Although I've never found anyone with the same configuration, so I hereby deem it oklism.) < 1266194360 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY < 1266194363 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hey i didn't remember you saying that < 1266194367 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a stupid thing to talk about. < 1266194371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I said it just before you came in. :P < 1266194376 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clearly he now has it from two _independent_ sources < 1266194376 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it is stupid, stop it < 1266194388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's _science_, bitch < 1266194405 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're right, it is. and science has shown that people dont have a fucking clue whats going on in their heads. < 1266194412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was oklistic < 1266194416 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they THINK they do < 1266194418 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, i mean that oklopol isn't human < 1266194423 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :P < 1266194434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should set up the Society for the Study and Recognition of Oklism < 1266194448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really believe much of science, i just believe in individual studies. < 1266194454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on our website under Experiments will be conversation snippets from oklopol < 1266194472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual science is how researchers interpreted the stuff, i want to make my own interpretations. < 1266194473 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i went to a linguistics talk < 1266194476 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a PLENARY talk < 1266194477 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which < 1266194480 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the examples < 1266194496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you're such a fangirl :D < 1266194510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit it's late < 1266194518 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the examples was < 1266194524 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i swear, this is quoted directly from the handout < 1266194543 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When he came, his semen short circuited the sander and electrocuted him dead" < 1266194544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: totally < 1266194558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: hahaha what < 1266194564 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1266194574 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fucking swear < 1266194591 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldve seen the stuff that was common back in the generative semantics days < 1266194613 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a transformational grammar rule called the Euphemistic Genital Deletion rule < 1266194619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1266194628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly this was from the olden days, when men were real men, women were real women, and sex was fucking dangerous < 1266194635 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which took sentences like "John's penis was too big to fit into Mary's vagina" and turned it into "John was too big for Mary" < 1266194642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Grinder's Apparel Pronoun Deletion (for the syntactic behavior öf certain sentences concerning disrobing)" < 1266194644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1266194651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1266194655 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1266194660 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had to visualize that situation to understand the sentence < 1266194664 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1266194668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess also i should stop this < 1266194672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just you < 1266194675 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, are you too big for me? < 1266194676 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::X < 1266194686 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, there were also shit tonnes of references to drugs and politics < 1266194690 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i think i'm just retarded < 1266194696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're just a nerd < 1266194696 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what about hugs < 1266194700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there any references to hugs < 1266194705 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's too into being a nerd < 1266194705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*were < 1266194708 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, no hugs < 1266194717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't think oklopol thinks a leetle bit differently from the average human being? < 1266194728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his esolangs and `quote should be rather sufficient evidence for that < 1266194735 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1266194742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...as well as his university career < 1266194751 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oklopol < 1266194753 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :48| i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. 50| < 1266194757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oklopol < 1266194758 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :48| i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. 50| < 1266194762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid HackEgo < 1266194771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://209.20.80.194/sgeo/quotes.txt < 1266194782 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: maybe hes a wee aspy, but honestly, not really. he comes off like a typical "TEEHEE IM A NERD IVE GOT OCD OMG IM ADDICTED TO CAFFEINE TEEHEE SO NERDY" nerd < 1266194788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :91| actually just ate some of the dog food because i didn't have any human food... after a while they start tasting like porridge < 1266194791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: he's right here, you know < 1266194793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're being a jerk < 1266194794 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only hes smarter when it comes to his pseudoailments < 1266194808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen oklopol describe himself as having some ailment; ever. < 1266194813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least, not a mental one. < 1266194821 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and youll never see a nerd describe his "ocd" as an ailment either < 1266194825 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats irrelevant. < 1266194838 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hes a big boy, im sure he can handle some mild criticism. < 1266194858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i think this is the point where you demolish him intellectually and he feels terribly small < 1266194862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK < 1266194863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1266194871 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, if John went to Chicago, that means we'll soon have a big supply of dope." < 1266194879 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another sentence from the good old Generative Semantics days < 1266194892 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Ate dog food? WTF? < 1266194923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it tastes like porridge i see no problem < 1266194930 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nixon, you imperialist butcher, take your lunatic Secretary of Defence and shove him up your ass" < 1266194934 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1266194970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 53| anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true should put that on my todo list < 1266194977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has subconsciously classified oklopol as the sanest person on this channel, actually. admittedly my classifications may not be reliable. < 1266194991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's so sane he wrapped around again < 1266194994 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and again, a few more times < 1266194997 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: lol. < 1266195016 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know im kinda into bdsm? as in, whipping. < 1266195026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need to know. < 1266195027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::Ds < 1266195031 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :D < 1266195039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, really, we have no requirement for that knowledge. whatsoever < 1266195041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't _know_, but i was in no way _surprised_ < 1266195049 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1266195067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think he interpreted your statement as innuendo. < 1266195071 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps i knew, subconsciously < 1266195079 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oklopol? Really? Until you made that claim, I would have said /you/ were amongst the sanest people on this channel. < 1266195087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god I'm such a genius < 1266195091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, just had a bout of egotism there < 1266195093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happens occasionally < 1266195103 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: EgoBot forgives you. < 1266195116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how genius is egobot < 1266195120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hm < 1266195133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'd term you one of the sanest. < 1266195138 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pah < 1266195139 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonsense < 1266195140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I'm not entirely sure how. < 1266195158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before oerjan thinking oklopol sane, I would have termed him the sanest. :P < 1266195224 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where am I sanity-wise < 1266195228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"augur: oklopol, are you too big for me?" <<< yeah i doubt my penis would fit in your penis < 1266195254 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: we could try < 1266195274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not nerdy < 1266195290 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think thats the most false thing ive ever heard. < 1266195296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypothesis: sanity does not travel well over irc < 1266195298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol isn't a nerd < 1266195308 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerd, geek, i use them interchangably < 1266195322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has a sex life (or has been lying to us consistently), he tends to have a negative opinion of coding < 1266195327 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, the reason i usually don't tell people i'm mad is because everyone does it < 1266195328 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not a computer geek, mathematics geek maybe < 1266195328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: insufficient data for meaningful answer < 1266195335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his esolangs always tend towards the theoretical, so < 1266195336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFK < 1266195345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wellnowwhat.net/linguistics/gs.pdf < 1266195347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember him showing any ginormous enthusiasm to CS < 1266195348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i just occasionally mention facts about my life, it's equally fun, i love sharing < 1266195350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess maths nerd < 1266195352 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case anyones interested in the Generative Semantics program < 1266195365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is the sanest here, probably, but he's also boring and orthodox and wrong. < 1266195368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i don't really think i can demolish people intellectually < 1266195372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1266195375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i said that years ago < 1266195376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1266195391 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is probably the second-sanest, and is vastly superior by way of being actually interesting and not hideously wrong about everything < 1266195398 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think insanity just carries much more funnily over IRC < 1266195424 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sanity is boring, that's what < 1266195426 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what a ridiculous hypothesis -----### < 1266195489 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculous? how? < 1266195511 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't think i have ocd, i have the ability to get interested in whatever i want, so i can simulate ocd is i find that necessary. < 1266195515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't understand that i'll have to drown you in tomato sauce. spicy. < 1266195518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: right but Gregor is a sane, normal person he's just intelligent and has weird ideas < 1266195522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just a skill i've spent thousands of hours developing. < 1266195535 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i dont think you have ocd either. i was just using that as an example of the _typical_ geek "fake ailment" < 1266195536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay that came out wrong < 1266195542 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what she said < 1266195551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is a sane, normal person and sure okay he has intelligence but his ideas are boring and he doesn't seem to be able to think of really interesting ones < 1266195559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how you'd quantify the different, it isn't sanity < 1266195560 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: how would that even work < 1266195563 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of her, hows 2tullia? < 1266195566 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, don't answer < 1266195568 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... creativity but on the oddness axis < 1266195570 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how would what even work? X < 1266195571 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1266195628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also not addicted to coffee, just caffeine, and i definitely love addictions < 1266195653 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1266195688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so really none of what you said is true of me, but probably i do sound like exactly how you described me < 1266195688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i wish my lag was a few minutes less. < 1266195697 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm definitely getting/gotten stuck on my new esolang... < 1266195711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Gregor's actually somewhat eccentric. < 1266195732 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i didnt say YOU portrayed yourself as having OCD or a coffee addiction < 1266195737 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i specifically said you DIDNT < 1266195751 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said you portray yourself with similarly geeky "quirks" < 1266195771 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg "lol i have to translate into higher order predicate logic to understand you lololol" < 1266195782 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an exageration of what you said but you get the point < 1266195799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: presumably he can function normally in society < 1266195800 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe I should just make it turing complete, release it and leave it for the rest of the world to figure out how to do IO with it... but that seems kind of boring < 1266195801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the hat thing < 1266195808 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i do like telling people how mad i am, but it's not so much that i want to separate myself from others or anything, i just love sharing personal details, especially all sorts of craziness, which i'm very enthusiastic about, in both directions < 1266195809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what is it? < 1266195811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us < 1266195843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: enthusiasm about ones presumed madnesses is a typical geek trait. which is the point. :| < 1266195852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: "Eccentric" does not mean "cannot function normally". < 1266195873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean < 1266195875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Means things like "has a fondness for hats" or "has a fondness for a soda that can't be easily found outside of Maine". < 1266195877 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: fun with making input and output harder instead of (or in addition to) making the actual computation hard < 1266195887 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes but I wouldn't consider those in any way related to real insanity < 1266195901 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which I don't mean literally not being sane, but being really crazy < 1266195901 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1266195903 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. I'm not saying he's insane in any way. < 1266195906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is crazy, Gregor isn't < 1266195910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just mildly eccentric. < 1266196092 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out just how hard I actually made it, but it looks like a 'cat' program is around O(n^2.3) in input size (that's with C-code and MPFR and GMP doing the computation, doing it by hand in some turing tarpit would probably be a lot slower) < 1266196163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'm not really especially enthusiastic in my own madness < 1266196163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact definitely more interesting in others < 1266196175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, i get your point < 1266196296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have exactly the same characteristics as a generic own-geekiness-loving geek has. and maybe i have them for the same reasons every other geek has. really i'm just correcting your details because i dislike you telling me these facts, because they are annoying. < 1266196318 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something along those lines < 1266196333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, those "details" were explicitly stated as being NOT facts about YOU < 1266196355 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, yeah, and i guess i misinterpreted them. < 1266196362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean misinterpreted the sentence < 1266196380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, obviously. < 1266196381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lag makes it sorta hard to pay attention < 1266196419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wait, the ping _says_ 19 seconds but the response was _actually_ immediate < 1266196419 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lag, or drugs < 1266196433 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not lagged to me < 1266196438 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: his computer is high. < 1266196447 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, i have to correct something, because i can't correct your impression of me. < 1266196458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1266196460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well i think you're a beautiful snowflake. < 1266196480 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think oklopol is a hot piece of manmeat < 1266196499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear i'm pretty hot when i've showered recently < 1266196500 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not significantly lagged to augur either < 1266196518 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, i demant photographic proof < 1266196520 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, she's fine, currently visiting her parents and works with some dude with MS < 1266196535 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1266196536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a weird sentence < 1266196541 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two different facts about her < 1266196547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if either is very relevant < 1266196596 0 :blagobu!~blagobu@modemcable004.220-203-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1266196608 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since she hadn't been previously mentioned, you know < 1266196609 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1266196614 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was weird about it is the tense mismatch < 1266196618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure she had < 1266196621 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its actually ungrammatically < 1266196622 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Hackiki is just a little over three months old. < 1266196623 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1266196625 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ungrammatical. < 1266196629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not recently < 1266196637 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I neglected to celebrate its 1/4th-year anniversary :P < 1266196678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you're mom is ungrammatical < 1266196684 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she often is < 1266196693 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is "you're mom is ungrammatical" < 1266196694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you'll be _so_ sorry for that when it develops sapience < 1266196696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1266196703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol just likes to rub his wimmen lyfe into our faeces < 1266196704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er faces < 1266196709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was /so/ a typo < 1266196716 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh I doubt it :P < 1266196726 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: are you /sure/ you understood Creating Friendly AI < 1266196739 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who ever said it was supposed to be friendly? < 1266196744 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1266196746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, dear < 1266196754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at least we'll have all the paperclips we could possibly want < 1266196759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, "we" will be an empty set < 1266196804 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paperclips is _so_ last cataclysm < 1266196836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"alise: oklopol just likes to rub his wimmen lyfe into our faeces" <<< i keep talking about my gf, but really i try not to, it's just i don't really have much else to say in conversations, because i have gf and i have uni stuff. < 1266196836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that's another stereotype i seriously try to fight being < 1266196836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy who always talks about his gf < 1266196837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have no life outside her < 1266196840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except here and at uni i can talk about other stuff often < 1266196846 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc9l7pygQRo < 1266196848 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great music < 1266196851 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucked up video < 1266196856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it gitten rape < 1266196857 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Life? < 1266196859 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kitten < 1266196861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess i'm not that guy here, but irl i often feel like i am < 1266196867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this "social life" of which you speak. < 1266196868 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wait you're always inside her? < 1266196879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My social life seriously consists of IM and IRC. < 1266196885 0 :blagobu!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1266196903 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do you really talk about 2tuulia much?? < 1266196906 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont notice this. < 1266196922 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? cool < 1266196926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol has a girlfriend? < 1266196959 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266196979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has he ever not had a girlfriend < 1266196988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i mention my gf all the time, probably i'm just paranoid < 1266196988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we've lived together for 1.5 years < 1266196988 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe i don't talk about her *that much*. < 1266197012 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly rarely < 1266197022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh i thought it was probably a new one < 1266197028 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, oklopol, surely you can't do the same thing for like < 1266197030 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know that. i didn't have a gf like half of high school < 1266197031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than a few hours < 1266197032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1266197035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unintentional innuendo < 1266197036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am rad < 1266197052 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just casual sex with my ex < 1266197087 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, can we have casual sex? :D < 1266197090 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never had a gf < 1266197109 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really have sex with dudes < 1266197122 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should start < 1266197140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: boo hoo < 1266197141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't really have a reason not to try it < 1266197143 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with me. < 1266197144 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that guys are ugly < 1266197148 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i don't really have sex with dudes, only in my imagination < 1266197149 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not! < 1266197151 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me is fully willing to have sex with a female who once was a dude < 1266197169 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo is a modern, 21st century man. < 1266197187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yeah but i can't have sex with myself < 1266197196 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: clones. < 1266197200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1266197207 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm fully willing to have sex with a woman who was once a man, or a man who was once a woman, or a frog who was once a prince." < 1266197207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :send in the clones < 1266197221 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that a quote? < 1266197229 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D < 1266197235 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not of somebody, I just wanted to make it clear that frog sex was not my statement :P < 1266197237 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i've gotten most of my girlfriends by essentially stalking them and constantly telling them they're pretty (well except for the three longer relationships i've had :P) < 1266197249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, there's a good tip < 1266197266 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tip: dont stalk girls < 1266197268 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1266197269 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, they were only girlfriends in your mind then :P < 1266197275 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stalk guys instead < 1266197294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lie about what people say < 1266197305 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: entirely true. < 1266197319 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Pretty much. < 1266197327 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sockpuppetting is fun! < 1266197378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have sex with femaly frogs < 1266197381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*female < 1266197383 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :本当ã«ï¼ < 1266197394 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"femaly" < 1266197397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a prince would turn into a male frog right? < 1266197397 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, female enough. < 1266197411 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably? < 1266197426 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Male and female frogs both have cloacas, so who cares :P < 1266197440 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just about to ask about their genitals < 1266197461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biology is not one of my strongest subjects < 1266197492 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonmammalian genitalia are unusual. < 1266197502 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That was a dumb statement :P < 1266197512 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dont deny it, dudes are sexful. < 1266197512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no they're not, they're the majority < 1266197533 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I was on this quiz bowl thing at school, and we were practicing. One of the questions was about some hormone. So I answered "Reproductive system" < 1266197546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I pride myself on dumb statements. < 1266197556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me is fully willing to have sex with a female who once was a dude < 1266197560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trust $name to know all about the reproductive system. The female reproductive system" < 1266197562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes i do < 1266197567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transvaginas tend to be much less sensitive than the real thing iirc < 1266197574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can settle for penor i guess that's acceptable < 1266197594 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want penor < 1266197605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? XD < 1266197609 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flops on oklopols lap < 1266197617 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This conversation is so much bizarre :P < 1266197636 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well tough for you. You have penor. < 1266197645 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say penor? < 1266197648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're not about to remove it. < 1266197649 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1266197649 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: is that one of those complicated verbs? < 1266197650 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not for long! < 1266197656 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: THAT drags you out of idle-land? :P < 1266197657 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no. its one of those simple ones. < 1266197665 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define penor < 1266197667 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Kyabjé Drubwang Pema Norbu Rinpoche (1932 - March 27, 2009) was the 11th throne holder of the Palyul Lineage of the Nyingma school of Tibetan ... \ [15]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penor \ < 1266197670 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me translate it into first order predicate logic for you < 1266197676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses < 1266197689 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like a full derivation of the first order logic form, or do you just want the truth conditions, oklopol? < 1266197689 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah, i've got a highlight on it < 1266197728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lol think i'm some sorta noob? latter < 1266197741 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Wow :P < 1266197842 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring tense and so forth, ∃x:augur(x)[ ∃y:oklopol(y)[ ∃e[flopping(e) & agent(e,x) & theme(e,y) ]]] < 1266197861 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats also ignoring the possibility of a verb decomposition < 1266197866 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a not so tense conversation < 1266197883 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also neglecting possible worlds and so forth. < 1266197904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the weird character? < 1266197914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exists? < 1266197919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1266197925 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transpenor is pretty rubbish iirc < 1266197932 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1266197946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do your liberal sensitivities outweigh your limited sexual prospects with transpeople> < 1266197947 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**? < 1266197948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1266197949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1266197950 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, true, but thats ok. transboy cunts can still be fun. especially transboy clit. < 1266197966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. that does indeed explain the concept quite well < 1266197969 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1266197971 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you okay with fucking a man with a cunt. < 1266198003 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, if I could pretend e was a girl, probably. But that would be unfair to em < 1266198017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in conclusion, your sexual prospects with a transperson are pretty much nil. < 1266198027 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double-u tee ef guys. < 1266198029 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1266198032 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double-u tee ef. < 1266198044 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean double-ewe? < 1266198055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in having two ewes? < 1266198056 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Idonno, I have no idea how to spell 'U' < 1266198066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what < 1266198071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we got bored of gay sex, we're just being more esoteric < 1266198082 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say gay sex? < 1266198084 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bored of gay sex? NONSENSE < 1266198086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I did. < 1266198127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you okay with fucking a man who has a female nick? < 1266198142 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: X-D < 1266198162 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Are you okay with fucking a man while having a female nick? < 1266198172 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: who's having the female nick? D: < 1266198182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not ok with fucking anyone who's underage < 1266198185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: "you" < 1266198192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That's not the question. < 1266198194 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok. < 1266198194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: provide me with a vagina and certainly. my anus is a tender, holy thing, emitting light, pristine in its every aspect. also, I am 14 < 1266198200 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just had to maximise the awkwardness of that sentence < 1266198202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1266198214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Emitting light? < 1266198215 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could probably have sex with a man with a female name, but nick i dunno < 1266198217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: emitting light. < 1266198218 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impressive. < 1266198218 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That was pretty maximally awkward ... < 1266198224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thank you! < 1266198234 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking that you werent using a weird dangling modifier < 1266198236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be illegal cuz she's just 14 < 1266198250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the vatican < 1266198259 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in Japan. < 1266198261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i think homosex is illegal there < 1266198262 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the age of consent in norway? < 1266198287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i'd be gentle < 1266198288 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so so gentle < 1266198305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I suspect having *sex* is illegal there. < 1266198317 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANTED TO SHOW YOU SUCH... TENDERNESS < 1266198317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the priests aren't supposed to have it, and everyone else would be having sex in public. < 1266198321 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yeah cuz catholics don't have sex < 1266198335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Catholic priests aren't supposed to. < 1266198336 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless theyre making babies. < 1266198336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: aren't there... houses < 1266198342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an age of consent anyway < 1266198348 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the vatican is a whole city, isn't it? < 1266198355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: it's a very, very small city < 1266198355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: 16 < 1266198364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.44 km^2 < 1266198365 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It's a few buildings in the middle of Rome. < 1266198367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop 826 < 1266198409 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1266198412 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to move to norden < 1266198477 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, non-priests in the Vatican don't have homes? < 1266198478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1266198497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway, sweden or denmark would be nice. < 1266198515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There are two types of Vatican citizens. < 1266198521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clergy and the Swiss Guard. < 1266198570 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Swiss Guard do not reside in the Vatican. < 1266198597 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Citta_del_Vaticano.svg < 1266198618 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bsmntborden < 1266198668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the Swiss Guard are required to be single men. < 1266198687 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to have sex in the vatican < 1266198702 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if they cease this, they cease to be Swiss Guard, and thus cease to be Vatican citizens. If they have no other citizenship, they immediately become Italian citizens) < 1266198735 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought the Swiss Guard were, in fact, Swiss. < 1266198765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes. < 1266198789 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how would they accomplish losing their Swiss citizenship while still being Swiss Guard at the Vatican? :P < 1266198790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: By being employed in that service, they become Vatican. < 1266198803 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No dual Swiss-Vatican citizenship eh < 1266198813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of my childhood dreams < 1266198815 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's the norm. < 1266198821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY GF wants to move to norway < 1266198823 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: kind of a lame dream < 1266198827 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just there as a contingency. < 1266198832 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1266198843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a Vatican citizen ceases to be a citizen, and has no other citizenship, they are now Italian. < 1266198850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. Vatican as a nationality. < 1266198856 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am a Vatican." < 1266198858 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/Akq2G.jpg < 1266198862 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to go to iceland < 1266198911 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i was out eating and there was this man talking to an imaginary woman, he'd actually ordered food for her and asked me where the female wc cuz she had to pee < 1266198938 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't know he had an imaginary gf when he asked about the wc so i wasn't sure i should tell him :P) < 1266198958 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, no, yes, yes, yes < 1266198962 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, no, yes, no, no < 1266199030 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ive started smoking shisha < 1266199040 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cappuccino shisha, btw, is AWESOME) < 1266199041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've started smoking HEROIN < 1266199050 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...up the arse. < 1266199062 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ive not gotten any interesting feelings from it. i dont see how people could get anything out of nicotine. < 1266199100 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal drugs and publically logged channels, two great tastes that taste great together! < 1266199144 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've wanted a shisha since i first visited germany < 1266199155 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hookahs, although stupid, are not illegal. And heroin isn't generally smoked (can it be smoked?), so that's clearly a lie :P < 1266199158 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, shisha, you realize, is hookah tobacco, right? < 1266199169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You do realise that mentioning drugs on IRC isn't very dangerous? < 1266199171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Tobacco is entirely legal. < 1266199174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "I'm smuggling opium" < 1266199177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not supposed to get feelings from shisha, you're supposed to enjoy all the smoke! < 1266199180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not "Hey guys, I'm on WEED" < 1266199184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Or should I say... GANJA" < 1266199187 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say anything you want in irc < 1266199188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the taste < 1266199189 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not illega < 1266199196 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admitting to doing something illegally on the internet is irrelevant. < 1266199213 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: true, and its tasty < 1266199219 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Life of Mammals: The greatest wildlife show on Earth" < 1266199220 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1266199223 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its got nicotive < 1266199226 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicotine < 1266199230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should feel it < 1266199232 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much time they dedicate to humans :P' < 1266199242 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: none. < 1266199271 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upside-domn typ hard < 1266199278 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but the shishas i did in germany (pretty much nonstop for a week, luuuuved 'em :P [total exaggeration but anyway]), at least, contained very little nicotine < 1266199290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly because you're supposed to smoke it all the time < 1266199313 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shisha is pretty amazing < 1266199314 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not once every few hours or so like the usual nicotine rolls < 1266199318 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its horrible for you tho < 1266199328 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you smoke shisha like they do in turkey, for like 8 hours on and off < 1266199334 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its equivalent to smoking about 200 cigarettes < 1266199337 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1266199344 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is horrible < 1266199361 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but if it wasn't horrible for you, no one would do it < 1266199391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it has to be at least a bit horrible to be fun < 1266199412 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i beg to differ < 1266199416 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSD is pretty unhorrible for you < 1266199447 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's cock < 1266199469 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cock especially < 1266199508 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if it has no bad effects, but it gives a high, of course it's fun again < 1266199508 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean you gotta have at least one < 1266199513 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cock is nutritious if digested < 1266199531 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION digests alise's cock < 1266199550 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1266199556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-kay < 1266199556 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i was in high school, two of my friends found a human cock in the woods, and one of them threw it on the other guy's face < 1266199556 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's not hot at all D-8 < 1266199562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you're clearly in denial < 1266199565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, new competition < 1266199569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1266199571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :create a sentence /more awkward/ than that one < 1266199571 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not high school < 1266199574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1266199576 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No digesting sexual organs! < 1266199587 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing before that, whatever it's called < 1266199598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"upper elementary school" < 1266199749 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Middle school and/or junior high < 1266199758 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least, those are the names in the US) < 1266199846 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine penis would be spongy and not all that flavorful, probably not the best food as far as human meat goes. < 1266199857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1266199875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ã‚“ã‚“ã‚“ã€äººè‚‰ã€‚ < 1266199895 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could probably give flavor to soup stock though. < 1266199896 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Human soup. < 1266199918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it was cut off while erected, with something like a string around it so the blood stays in < 1266199941 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Then it would be spongy, irony, and would probably burst when you bit into it. < 1266199946 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, we're humans, we usually /cook/ our food. < 1266199951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, true < 1266199951 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, blood-filled dick < 1266199953 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd just have the flavor of blood cooked into the spongy flesh. < 1266199958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Sounds like the start of blood sausage. < 1266199967 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+50 points pikhq < 1266199971 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone tried to convince me that erections were caused by muscles < 1266199996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no it's _mussles_, surely < 1266200003 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Muscles in your heart push the blood, creating the initial blood pressure that eventually translates into an erection. < 1266200010 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All MY erections are caused by mussels. < 1266200012 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. < 1266200012 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mussels < 1266200013 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mussels. < 1266200278 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mussles turn you on? < 1266200388 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.naturalnews.com/005962.html < 1266200588 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that being said, cock would probably taste mostly the same as the hens we usually eat, AFAIK there's not such a substantial difference between males and females of the species that they would actually /taste/ different. < 1266200679 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1266200688 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That statement made me realize something. < 1266200691 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cocks don't have cocks. < 1266200693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :) < 1266200696 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting thing, language. < 1266200726 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do hens have hens? < 1266200766 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1266200769 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: also yes. < 1266200790 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ducks have cocks though, i hear < 1266200813 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ducks, swans and other closely-related species of bird. < 1266200838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about that the next time you see Donald < 1266200872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very long cocks < 1266200896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And spiraled. < 1266200910 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yummeh < 1266200992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know it's the devil that controls the world now, and not god, the jehovas told me this, i wasn't aware < 1266201025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also was that independent research, or is that their official opinion? i mean it sounds really silly < 1266201063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should join some cool religion < 1266201078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would totally own at that < 1266201082 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should FOUND a cool religion < 1266201157 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an even yummier idea ofc < 1266201194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go. < 1266201203 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See you all on Friday... < 1266201211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya < 1266201214 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck < 1266201220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could just worship john gabriel < 1266201227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's half term. So 90% of the day will be... sitting around. Sigh. < 1266201228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1266201233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. <3 you all. < 1266201243 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always read about universal algebra < 1266201246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1266201268 0 :alise!~alise@91.104.249.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266201270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1266201272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no personal internet < 1266201273 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no libary < 1266201274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*library < 1266201298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: < 1266201309 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: You could write a thesis on the stupidity of all this. < 1266201312 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could borrow a book from an external library < 1266201320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, I couldn't < 1266201324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1266201329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a parent could and bring it to me < 1266201332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're not allowed out... < 1266201346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right, i was thinking you'd bring one with ya < 1266201352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tomorrow you know < 1266201353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1266201353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1266201356 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1266201362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yeah i guess that's a good point < 1266201372 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye again < 1266201425 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was set to inherit? < 1266201463 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1266201471 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i not the successor anymore? :( < 1266201511 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: what? < 1266201527 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought i was the channel successor < 1266201565 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266201614 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now it says freenode-staff < 1266201632 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought calamari was an op? < 1266201837 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ask some actual staff? < 1266201869 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing i can see is that andreou is founder < 1266201898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and from nickserv, that he hasn't been here for 68 weeks) < 1266201905 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1266201921 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 < 1266201928 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 < 1266201931 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 38 weeks? < 1266201963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it had been much more, he'd probably have been removed in the recent purge... < 1266201989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some time this autumn iirc) < 1266202020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, do i actually remember when the purge was, it could have been the year before < 1266202181 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1266202247 0 :augur_!~augur@96.231.221.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266202278 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a purge? < 1266202285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1266202302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of unused nicks removed < 1266202326 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, i got an explanation from a staffer < 1266202336 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all single-# channels have freenode-staff as the successor < 1266202354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1266202372 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is new. also impractical... < 1266202408 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, we really should have replaced andreou completely a long time ago < 1266202433 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i always thought calamari was an op < 1266202438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever talked to him. < 1266202450 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and fizzie are, aren't you? < 1266202455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm a bit of a long-time regular by now. < 1266202572 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like to get staff involvement we'd have to move the channel to ##esoteric < 1266202587 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably better to just maintain status-quo < 1266202595 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's really dumb. < 1266202601 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can still op people < 1266202604 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1266202613 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what is it the channel founder is for < 1266202629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly considering that this is the closest to the official Esoteric Programming group. < 1266202634 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1266202641 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could try that < 1266202657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do also run the wiki and the archive... < 1266202819 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we need to do is incorporate somewhere < 1266202840 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION installs Flashblock < 1266202852 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is esolang hosted? < 1266202947 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't played Robozzle in a while < 1266203113 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The never-shows-up graue hosts it. < 1266203146 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the important figures are no-shows :P < 1266203167 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, the esolang wiki should totally be hosted in Hackiki ;) < 1266203185 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1266204146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Reboot < 1266204400 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1266204422 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266204639 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1266205893 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1266206669 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1266206789 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w00t at Canada winning a gold! < 1266208409 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1266208698 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1266209747 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1266209766 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I invented a esolang that is possible to represent Russell's paradox: Russell={#![#]}\*; < 1266210049 0 :augur_!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1266210568 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This quit message will explode in 5 minute. Please have a good day, gentlemen. < 1266210694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get the knight tracks in today's xkcd. the rest is all very accurate and understable though. < 1266210744 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: chess < 1266210760 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d'oh < 1266210811 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*understandable < 1266210822 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although to be honest, may not be quite stable either < 1266210846 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE < 1266210847 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE < 1266210848 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE < 1266210850 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1266210854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RABBITS < 1266210864 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabbitboys are hot :( < 1266211454 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got a l'spirit descalier regarding earlier conversation < 1266211495 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l'esprit de'escalier < 1266211501 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... rabbitboys < 1266211602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about feeling sorry for female slaves named "nick" < 1266211811 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think I need a liiiiiiiiiittle bit more explanation of "rabbitboys" :P < 1266211829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Y'know catgirls? < 1266211839 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/cat/rabbit/ s/girl/boy/ < 1266211846 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1266211847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell if I know. < 1266211883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has heard of something called playboy bunnies < 1266211899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not the same thing. < 1266211921 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dagobah.biz/flash/lolicatgirls.swf ? < 1266211923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's girls dressed up in a skimpy outfit with a bunny tail and ears. For no good reason. < 1266211947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People do weird things with animal parts and humanoids. < 1266211950 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did that site get past my FlashBlock? < 1266212037 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i've also heard of something called furries < 1266212070 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sort of thought playboy bunnies was related < 1266212091 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, playboy bunnies are just an artifact of marketing. < 1266212097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And furries are a somewhat odd fandom. < 1266212107 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With associated sexual fetishes within the fandom. < 1266212112 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHWAIT < 1266212117 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are playgirl models bunnies too? < 1266212120 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain it. < 1266212125 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I can rubber-stamp as OK :P < 1266212137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I think it's just the models with the bunny outfit on. < 1266212144 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know. < 1266212146 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's my point < 1266212155 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not fur-fetishists, they're just wearing bunny-ears. < 1266212162 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fuzzy tails. < 1266212169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1266212174 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should be getting ready to go to sleep < 1266212712 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I still need your first-person explanation. < 1266212725 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise there's a nagging voice in my head. < 1266212743 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey what < 1266212792 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rabbitboys are hot :( OK, I think I need a liiiiiiiiiittle bit more explanation of "rabbitboys" :P < 1266212805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1266212814 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know furboys who have rabbit fursonas < 1266212817 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theyre all hot < 1266212838 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn are you guys still talking about sex? < 1266212840 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1266212860 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GODDAMNIT < 1266212865 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it had to be furries. < 1266212905 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266212913 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here I was, blissfully thinking it was just playgirl models in bunny suits. < 1266212915 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no. < 1266212996 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how in gods name could rabbitboy meant girl in a bunny suit? < 1266212998 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in drugs? < 1266213006 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: playGIRL models. < 1266213014 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlayBOY models are girls, playGIRL models are boys. < 1266213018 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW COULD RABBIT ___BOY___ MEAN THIS < 1266213039 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world of softcore porn is entirely foreign to augur :P < 1266213095 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate playboy < 1266213100 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really terrible porn < 1266213158 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur is at playgirl.com RIGHT NOW :P < 1266213214 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh sorry, playgirl models < 1266213218 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see im not paying attention to that < 1266213231 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly :P < 1266213382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1266214357 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1266214377 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that almost! < 1266215003 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i sure could go for some yiffing < 1266215208 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobs* < 1266217498 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1266220799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1266220800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1266221125 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1266222046 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1266223842 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266224503 0 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1266224565 0 :gm|lap!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: 2 hour UPS expired. Shutting down laptop. < 1266224680 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1266224680 0 :Gracenotes_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Gracenotes < 1266225803 0 :Wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good middle-of-the-night/morning < 1266225930 0 :Wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dawn if you're lucky < 1266226457 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aroudn half past eleven (am) here. < 1266226676 0 :Wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1266227331 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1266227479 0 :scarf!~scarf@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266227529 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~nice@p5B133C49.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266231159 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1266231410 0 :Pthing!~pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1266231413 0 :scarf!~scarf@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266232661 0 :oklogon!~oklopol@a91-153-117-208.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1266232825 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1266233024 0 :oklogon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1266233166 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266234961 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1266235855 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266235861 0 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1266237487 0 :MizardX-!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1266237648 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1266237665 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1266238035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Good middle-of-the-night/morning <-- 10:22ish < 1266238045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that point < 1266238146 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1266239340 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1266241232 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1266242403 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1266243721 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266244488 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1266244682 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266244728 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1266245359 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266245690 0 :MigoMipo!~migomipo@84-217-9-127.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266246171 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266246884 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266247682 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266247756 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1266247759 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1266247759 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1266247877 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1266248132 0 :Pthing!~pthing@cpc11-pres4-0-0-cust168.pres.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1266249032 0 :tombom_!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1266249152 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1266250367 0 :MissPiggy!~none@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1266251465 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Sgeo < 1266251530 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1266251812 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266252034 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1266254713 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266254726 0 :scarf!~scarf@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266254893 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266255035 0 :MigoMipo!~migomipo@84-217-9-127.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266255116 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266255192 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266255305 0 :MigoMipo!~MigoMipo@84-217-9-127.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266255912 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-201-54.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1266256089 0 :cheater3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1266256570 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1266256819 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-30-135.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1266257751 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo, pretty frozen-north weather again; a tree: http://zem.fi/~fis/frozen.jpg < 1266257768 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay tree < 1266259035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what scarf said + yay noise in image < 1266259057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather visible in the blurry parts < 1266259143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still a phone, not a camera. < 1266259228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah okay < 1266259232 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, sure. It's also a bit artifacty sort of noise, probably due to some "noise-removal" image processing applied. < 1266259239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1266259248 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly my camera does equally noisy images, so... But it's not a "real" camera, at that. < 1266259270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will never get completely noise free < 1266259314 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess so, but the sensors in a typical DSLR-style camera tend to be larger, which should mean significantly less noise. < 1266259331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1266259332 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1266259338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw, you could use enfuse < 1266259371 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. I did some align_image_stack+enfuse for mini-tripod-out-of-hotel-room-window-at-night shots recently. < 1266259374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did wonders for that panorama I fixed up for you if you remember < 1266259406 0 :tombom_!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1266259479 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/noise_1.jpg → http://zem.fi/~fis/noise_2.jpg < 1266259512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is that true colour? < 1266259556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and yes that helped quite a bit. double the ammount of photos would have been even better (even in the latter the noise is quite noticeable) < 1266259618 0 :Asztal!~asztal@host86-156-193-0.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1266259645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also it reduced the white headlight pattersn < 1266259648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :patterns* < 1266259650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite nice < 1266259669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some more and it would have looked rather deserted < 1266259751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, some manual whitebalance would have been a good idea though < 1266259768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even curve correction if raw format wasn't available on that hardware < 1266259789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc hugin can somewhat adjust whitebalance too < 1266259951 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1266260212 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so far off from the correct colors; street lighting around here tends to be pretty yellowish. < 1266260245 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did white-balance with the "point the camera at something white" setting, using some snow as reference-white-outside. < 1266260265 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for the delay there, there was a cat-puke-related issue to take care of. < 1266260364 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/noise_3.jpg → http://zem.fi/~fis/noise_4.jpg might be even more dramatic; that's inside the hotel room. < 1266260495 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first pair was made from 6 exposures, this second one with 9. < 1266260608 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a rather funny enfuse-generated phantom in http://zem.fi/~fis/ghost_bus.jpg < 1266260863 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Cleaning the hotel windows every now and then would have helped, too.) < 1266261585 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266262978 0 :scarf!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266263125 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1266263495 0 :tombom__!tombom@86.24.14.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266263505 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266263509 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1266264929 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1266265896 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1266266409 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1266267300 0 :gm|lap!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1266267956 0 :augur_!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1266268603 0 :scarf!~scarf@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266269890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that image looks green though < 1266269907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sorry for the delay there, there was a cat-puke-related issue to take care of. <-- ? < 1266269977 0 :oklopol!~oklopol@a91-153-117-208.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1266270010 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the "cat-puke-related" issue is actually the cat puke itself < 1266270026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice ghost bus yeah < 1266270045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, oh! that sounds plausible < 1266270062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was wondering about the cake itself. Before the issue < 1266270097 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cake and cat puke don't mix < 1266270157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, was it a two "floors" bus? < 1266270168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture doesn't make much sense < 1266270175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe another bus from another exposure? < 1266270183 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lost doesn't make much sense either < 1266270196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, .... < 1266270247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there is definitely a normal bus at the bottom. But part of it seems to have another bus located higher up on top as well? < 1266270254 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm just taking whatever you say and rewriting it into something that kind of makes sense in my own context, then responding to it as if it means something else < 1266270280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that is a tram? < 1266270339 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm talking about is slightly more abstract than a tram, I think < 1266270359 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's buses all the way down. < 1266270371 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's plenty abstract < 1266270468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, hehe < 1266271037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about abstract vehicles < 1266271104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a tram "behind" the bus from another exposure, yes. < 1266271239 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of the yellow-green ones from http://www.raitio.org/ratikat/helsinki/hkl/luettelo/kalusto.htm < 1266271646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1266271679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, abstract meta-ghost commuter vehicles < 1266271683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ^ < 1266271700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for the obvious pun < 1266271862 0 :MissPiggy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abelian grape! < 1266272008 0 :base3__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL MissPiggy < 1266272022 0 :base3__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it < 1266272025 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy: :o < 1266272047 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1266273294 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net < 1266273629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MissPiggy, wrong one ;P < 1266273677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well, I shall have to fill it in: < 1266273693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never meta-ghost commuter vehicle I didn't like < 1266274270 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1266274795 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266275310 0 :tombom__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1266275958 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1266276174 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1266276384 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1266276401 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1266276615 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds