< 1272758426 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose different bases work for different increments < 1272758459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a^(x+d)-a^x)/d = a^x < 1272758474 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly have an odd feeling that I'm about to say something and alise is going to contradict me. < 1272758482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: No you aren't. < 1272758492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<=> a^d - 1 = d < 1272758499 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if a hypothesis is falsifiable, then as the time it's gone without being falsified approaches infinity, its probability approaches 1. < 1272758570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: True if and only if someone's /trying/ to falsify it. < 1272758574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well assuming the conditional probability of falsification has a nonzero lower bound per time unit... < 1272758574 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1272758585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(conditional on it being false) < 1272758589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I said "pink elephants exist in a planet where everybody has penises of length -3.4i halfinches, and every fortnight they all explode and come back together again", < 1272758591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody challenged it, < 1272758597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we could assume it gets more probable! < 1272758619 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not falsifiable, though. < 1272758679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is; "the planet is [some space we will be able to visit in the future]; we will be able to visit it in N years" < 1272758689 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could say, "The universe contains no planets that do not have sapient life but do have blue, hairy creatures that secrete food for their young." < 1272758691 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :set N = very big < 1272758702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even once we're able to visit it < 1272758704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could falsify it < 1272758710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but let's assume it's in a really boring region of space and nobody does < 1272758713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't get more likely < 1272758718 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I could just always say that we haven't seen that planet because it's outside the observable universe. < 1272758728 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, there's no falsifying it. < 1272758728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say it isn't. < 1272758747 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pink elephants are too small to be seen with our technology. < 1272758760 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the two people on it live underground. < 1272758797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm making it falsifiable. < 1272758805 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1272758806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We will be able to visit it in N years; it is N miles away" < 1272758811 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1272758816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perfectly falsifiable: but let's say it's a really boring region of space, and nobody bothers. < 1272758824 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Countless aeons pass. Still no more likely. < 1272758826 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see that that statement was a refinement of the hypothesis. < 1272758834 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1272758846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people were /actively trying/ to disprove it, and they didn't, then it'd become more likely. < 1272758857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it'd take a bloody long infinity for it to become 1.) < 1272758981 0 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@174-16-203-114.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272758992 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=54709 < 1272759011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many like that < 1272759020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including some with a really heavy zalman metal case, you know that thing < 1272759029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :question is how much powah can you get. < 1272759119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a totally silent computer is interesting in the psychological effect -- < 1272759126 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computer would become completely ambient, it would make no disruption < 1272759367 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.silentpcreview.com/Silverstone_ST45NF_PSU < 1272759376 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's your fanless psu < 1272759491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1272759595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean your as in the one i linked? < 1272759603 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i linked it < 1272759613 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't see < 1272759643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah not a spcr review though http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=silverstone_nightjar_450&num=1 < 1272759646 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1272759647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what google gave me < 1272759651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :450w is pretty fucking good < 1272759657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could run an i7 and an okay graphics card off that. < 1272759661 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1272759666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would want megahalems for the i7 mos def < 1272759674 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably needs some airflow though < 1272759687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably one of the videocards that can be ran fanless /without/ a crazy cooler that overheats < 1272759728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: I dunno man < 1272759739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :open the back of the case entirely (with maybe some dust filter stuff) < 1272759741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1272759745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let natural airflow take care of it < 1272759750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i7 is a bit excessive < 1272759753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet i5 could take it though < 1272759826 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@150.140.227.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272759831 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how much passive airflow you'll get from the cpu sink < 1272759876 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION listens to his MacBook. < 1272759888 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, it's making sound. < 1272759921 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's drowned out by the sounds of birds and rustling leaves outside, my dad cooking, my little brother banging stuff, and other appliances. < 1272759923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is. < 1272759945 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No birds and leaves at 12:25 am; nor much cooking going on. Only child, and no appliances are on. < 1272759955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is the ooold computer I'm on. Whirrrrrrr. < 1272759961 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1272760290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: remember those crazy watercooling solutions we talked about? < 1272760294 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1272760311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting everything in one big loop, then getting a large house radiator < 1272760322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can handle like 2,600 w < 1272760325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just pluggin 'er in < 1272760380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The funny thing is, I never noticed my LCD whine until after reading this post. It has a very quiet, very high frequency line." < 1272760380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKKKK < 1272760389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can hear it now < 1272760396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my goddd < 1272760398 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh heh. < 1272760399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill me < 1272760405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to have to commit suicide. < 1272760435 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION attempts to listen to an LCD whine. < 1272760449 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put the psu in another room < 1272760466 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I hear it. < 1272760477 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my tinnitus is louder than that. < 1272760540 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate all the armchair engineering that goes into reviewing heatsinks < 1272760573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think I had tinnitus but I think everyone hears whining when things are silent. < 1272760580 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that has 8 heatpipes MUST be better than something 6 < 1272760580 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's called tinnitus. < 1272760586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: in all fairness mike chin knows what he's doing < 1272760593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you meant someone else < 1272760599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl: no because tinnitus is a condition and it's constant < 1272760609 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this heatsink doesn't have a mirror finish, it must suck < 1272760611 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1272760645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: now that's ridiculous, spcr certainly doesn't say such bullshit < 1272760654 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't talking about spcr < 1272760661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1272760670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hardware review sites almost always suck < 1272760674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i like ananadtech though < 1272760892 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I want to take a hearing test. < 1272761158 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SL-12-pr-3009.html < 1272761432 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, http://www.jab-tech.com/Scythe-KAMA-FLEX-80-mm-Silent-Case-Fan-Medium-Speed-SA0825FDB12M-pr-4111.html < 1272761842 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: the nexus fans are meant to be good. < 1272761856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yate loon is apparently the same manufacturer as the nexus fans, but less reliable quality < 1272761857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and thus cheaper) < 1272761862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're kinda oldschool i gather < 1272761864 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yate loon = nexus < 1272761869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scythe are excellent. < 1272761871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: no < 1272761875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different manufacturer, yes < 1272761878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nexus have better QC < 1272762130 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.silentpcreview.com/article114-page1.html < 1272762133 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks nice < 1272762297 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272762310 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272762394 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-34-17-217.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272762947 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.silentpcreview.com/article601-page1.html < 1272762951 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting < 1272762964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most everything on spcr is < 1272762972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picopsu is awesome < 1272762978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only usable for low power situations obviously < 1272762982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the higher watt brick you attach it to has a fan < 1272762988 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need to use the lower one < 1272762992 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use 2 < 1272763032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :240 watts, I can barely contain my excitement < 1272763040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, use 50!" Now your computer is overheating. < 1272763053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, they're $50 a pop. < 1272763071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the power brick is sold separately, Mini-box supplied two power bricks to test alongside the picoPSU, one rated for 80W, the other for either 110W or 120W (depending on which numbers you believe)." < 1272763082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter has a cooling fan ("on heavy load" -- most of the time with one of these, surely) < 1272763089 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically you get ... eighty watts! < 1272763133 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be perfect for an itty bitty system to build inside house walls or something < 1272763140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :house walls? why? < 1272763155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like a kiosk thing? meh < 1272763161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be v. nice for a media pc of some sort. < 1272763173 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be cool to have a computer you couldn't see? < 1272763177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining a big tv plugged into a teeny weeny computer running mythtv and all that kinda stuff < 1272763183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: well yes, but imagine maintaining it < 1272763186 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would you put a door in the wall < 1272763188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1272763193 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's the point < 1272763195 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't find it < 1272763199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1272763203 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wireless monitor < 1272763206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just audio < 1272763211 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like making ghost noises from the wall < 1272763218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooh, it's a pc < 1272763223 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wifi, duh < 1272763229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah wifi monitor < 1272763233 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus, have you no imagination? < 1272763243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm joking, sir < 1272763326 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a couple terabytes storage < 1272763354 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't do that with that power supply though < 1272763365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely :P < 1272763373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 2tb drives don't have too bad power requirements i think < 1272763378 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a network storage device would work better :P < 1272763674 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :DalekEmperor < 1272763683 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTERMINATE < 1272763684 0 :DalekEmperor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AUGUR < 1272763688 0 :AUGUR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1272763769 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also put the power brick far enough away not to hear it < 1272763858 0 :cheater3!~cheater@ip-80-226-12-84.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1272763913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: that is just cheating though. < 1272763920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, after /too/ far it'll run into problems < 1272763924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after not far enough you will hear it easy. < 1272763929 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence vs a little noise = a lot < 1272764073 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1272764074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: You could just use the fanless power brick. :) < 1272764270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80w < 1272764342 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requires some doing, but quite feasible. < 1272764369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you're going for no-moving-parts. < 1272764414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the point is that you can get a 0-fan pc doing much more than 80w < 1272764430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are fanless 450w supplies; use them at 100-200w and you'll only need minimal airflow < 1272764439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be very careful and use a bit less and you'll only need natural airflow < 1272764443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you'd def. want heatpipes somewhere else) < 1272764452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1272764456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the best solution is: bunch of heatpipes + fucking gigantic radiator < 1272764470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you would have to completely custom-do the heatpipes because i don't think you could mod the zalman easily to go to an external radiator. < 1272764472 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The picoPSU is something you'd want for, say, something hooked into your TV running MythTV. < 1272764481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that though you'd be able to handle a modern pc, save maybe graphics card < 1272764497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get two stonking great radiators and you'd be able to have a good processor and graphics card < 1272764505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course: this will cost thousands to do the heatpipes & also get the house radiators. < 1272764510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you will have to make it all yourself < 1272764512 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1272764520 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you did it... that would be utter perfection. < 1272764523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now where are you going to put the radiators? < 1272764549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wall of my room in the previous Hexham house that my computer stood at had a down-staircase on the other side. < 1272764558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually thinking about drilling through my wall, running watercooling cables through, < 1272764564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mounting a gigantic household radiator on the wall of the stairs. < 1272764575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way it would stay cool in my room and I'd still have some inkling of space... < 1272764583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better hope that radiator's held up securely though /wince < 1272765156 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why are you using WinCE? < 1272765170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What?! < 1272765173 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1272765487 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :DalekEmperor < 1272765538 0 :DalekEmperor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1272765708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :city < 1272766172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death on a (pogo) stick. < 1272766484 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20090930.png < 1272766835 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :DalekEmperor < 1272766845 0 :DalekEmperor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1272767546 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1272768461 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1272769284 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of a set-top box that can't handle 1080p? < 1272769397 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < 1272769398 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gunshowcomic.com/d/20100422.html < 1272769401 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are the rabbit in the igloo < 1272769405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1080p is pretty easy to do with a low-power-usage computer. < 1272769421 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am always the rabbit in the igloo < 1272769429 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Low power usage for a computer still gets you "able to decode h.264 in real time with ease". < 1272769429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that page isn't loading for me :/ < 1272769452 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: really? < 1272769461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20100422.gif < 1272769471 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Modern CPUs are both crazy fast *and* don't use that much power. < 1272769505 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My *last* CPU was able to decode 1080p h.264 in real time. And it would be a good 7 years old now. (and it was single core.) < 1272769553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now have 1080p h.264 and aac audio packed in matroshka or however you spell it < 1272769565 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Matroska. < 1272769569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes. Done that. < 1272769573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure your old pc could really handle realtime 1080p h.264... that stuff is pretty hardcore < 1272769577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need about 3ghz single-core iirc < 1272769580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or about 2ghz dual-core < 1272769586 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It used about all of my CPU. < 1272769590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it could be a good cpu from 7 years old < 1272769595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ago < 1272769625 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was top of the line 7 years ago? < 1272769643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. 7? More like 5. XD < 1272769644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1272769647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit shittingham by Shitco < 1272769665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technical term) < 1272769693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Some Athlon 64... < 1272769729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was just a *bit* before Intel trashed Pentium 4 for good, IIRC. < 1272769745 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x2? < 1272769754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not. < 1272769756 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, they shipped P4s up until 2008? < 1272769761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck Intel? < 1272769761 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dual-core came to fashion with the core 2 duo i think < 1272769772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they're just sooo good < 1272769780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I hadn't purchased an x2. < 1272769796 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an athlon 64 x2 in this machine right now < 1272769961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current system can encode h.264 (... 480p) in faster-than-realtime. < 1272769974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 480p :P < 1272769980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never bothered to check how much faster; I generally start the makefile before I go to sleep.) < 1272769984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1080p h.264 is just glorious < 1272769988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1272770004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that the real world doesn't have enough details to take full advantage. < 1272770005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1272770012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should just meticulously draw everything < 1272770017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pity my monitor is too cheap to display it. < 1272770020 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: indeed < 1272770030 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's 1440x900) < 1272770032 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of 1080p, i need a new hard drive < 1272770037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1272770045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: 2TB is all the rage. get two, RAID 0 them < 1272770046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: MOAR TERABYTES < 1272770048 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just keep backups you bum) < 1272770053 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :raid0 ftl < 1272770054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4TB of sex for about $400. < 1272770058 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, http://www.mini-box.com/PW-200M-DC-DC-power-supply?sc=8&category=13 < 1272770065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get four, RAID5 them. < 1272770066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what, you are keeping backups right? < 1272770068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so raid0 it. < 1272770077 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 200w picopsu style < 1272770089 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah with a fan component < 1272770093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :solid-state ftw! < 1272770136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the next step in solid-state computing is eInk, to get rid of that pesky whine and distracting backlight. < 1272770160 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fan... < 1272770168 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely in the power brick. < 1272770199 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1272770209 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laptops generally have fanless power bricks < 1272770228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also v. low power < 1272770228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking 40-60w here < 1272770233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the picopsu one can handle 80w 100% fanless < 1272770268 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are you talking about < 1272770296 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean < 1272770301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1272770308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should just get a bunch of flux capacitors < 1272770311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can power anything < 1272770319 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mini-box.com/picoUPS-100-12V-DC-micro-UPS-system-battery-backup-system?sc=8&category=1264 < 1272770320 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwahahaha < 1272770333 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1272770415 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm < 1272770427 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many watt-hours are in a 12v car battery? < 1272770433 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use the 400-500whatever one < 1272770439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fan at all < 1272770439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple < 1272770463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just open all the holes in the case you can, and make sure the cpu heatsink is comfortably away from it < 1272770478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use a low-power graphics card so you don't need a hefty heatsink because it has little heat output < 1272770481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :job done < 1272770552 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :picopsu is cool just because it's so small < 1272770569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make the smallest modern x86 computer you can < 1272770577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is... all mobos are pretty big < 1272770583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mini-ITX is the smallest? < 1272770623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so get a low-power cpu with a very small heatsink so that it doesn't take up much height, stick a picopsu on it, a tiny (say the 18 series of intel SSDs) drive, leave the rest to the mobo < 1272770629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :custom-make a tiny plastic case for it < 1272770635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile-ITX < 1272770669 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called a smartphone... < 1272770694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smartphones aren't regular x86 puters < 1272770712 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's x86. < 1272770719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean mobile-itx? < 1272770721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the page hasn't loaded yet < 1272770722 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid 3g < 1272770729 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why limit yourself to x86? < 1272770736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"regular" puter < 1272770739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puter puter puter < 1272770741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a silly word < 1272770743 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puter < 1272770751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mobile-ITX is 60mm by 60mm. Though it gets a little bit larger due to the needed IO breakout board. < 1272770857 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also PC/104. 96mm by 90mm, peripherals attached via sticking the board on top. < 1272771023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :djb has published a new standard-workstation list of parts & software & stuff since 2005 every one or two years... and since 2006 all of them have been minor revisions with "I haven't assembled it yet, see the 2006 instructions" < 1272771026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why bother, man, why bother < 1272771028 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't even tried it :P < 1272771063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1272771080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dammit i really wish core i7 supported ecc /sigh < 1272771165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd go AMD, but AMD processors suck. < 1272771217 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pay extra for a xeon < 1272771227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: "no" < 1272771239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to get special mobo, costs a lot more, iffiness about heatsinks, different socket etc. < 1272771259 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xeons are at a "bend over and take it" price point. < 1272771619 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s a good price point :P < 1272771627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1272771629 0 :alise!~alise@212.183.140.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272772163 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117191&cm_re=xeon-_-19-117-191-_-Product < 1272772166 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, that's not too bad < 1272773508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now add all the other ghosts, and see my other complaints < 1272774163 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghosts? < 1272774242 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to have some tea < 1272774251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, costs < 1272774253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not ghosts < 1272774256 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: dammit, I want tea < 1272774259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're such an english fucker < 1272774350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck it. I'm getting some tea too. < 1272774401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, delicously delicious Earl Grey. < 1272774557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what? < 1272774558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you guys. < 1272774593 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean there's a British person without tea? < 1272774603 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To obtain tea I would have to: < 1272774615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- go downstairs; a laborous task < 1272774618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- find tea < 1272774620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- prepare tea < 1272774624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- walk back upstairs < 1272774634 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've sworn the need for tea was so ingrained into the British genome that it was still quite noticable several generations removed from Britain. < 1272774635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only am I tired and I should really sleep as it's 4:30 am, but... < 1272774638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw. < 1272774644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: SADLY NOT. < 1272774650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know if there's any decent tea here. < 1272774659 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I still have quite a need for tea. < 1272774668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just crazy. < 1272774693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You wouldn't even believe it, there are people here who put COW'S MILK in tea! Only Douglas Adams is allowed to do that! < 1272774713 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... You mean there's people who don't do that? < 1272774719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What heathens. < 1272774731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LUNATIC! < 1272774740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dances before the moon < 1272774746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ere < 1272774748 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have lapsang suochong < 1272774862 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The traditional hanzi for that is... ? < 1272774877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wikipedes < 1272774920 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :拉普山小種 < 1272774924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"拉普山小種". Okay, that's straightforward enough. < 1272774931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikiPEDOS < 1272774937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway seriously FUCK. YOU. GUYS < 1272774954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect you to lodge me & provide tea at my convenience as payment for this travesty < 1272774964 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://anandtech.com/show/825/4 < 1272774966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Small variety from the mountain Lap", apparently. < 1272774969 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, cpu coolers from 2001 < 1272774989 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Learn Japanese and maybe I will. :P < 1272774998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1272775001 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...well, okay. < 1272775008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no reason for that except to make you squirm.) < 1272775015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I pay you [learn Japanese] after you provide me with the service? < 1272775018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though you *do* have the time. :P) < 1272775020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll sign a contract! < 1272775027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't... not right now at least. < 1272775031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm too braindead on weekdays to.) < 1272775054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I strongly suspect a major portion of that is boredom. < 1272775065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Belive you me, boredom makes your brain fucking *dead*. < 1272775080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being woken up at 7am every day. < 1272775085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helps too < 1272775091 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1272775097 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've been getting dumber < 1272775106 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: how old are you < 1272775109 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's just cruelty to anyone younger than, say, 25. < 1272775114 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 < 1272775124 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: presumably in binary < 1272775148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, 4b10. < 1272775172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, today I learned that in third grade, Eliezer Yudkowsky bit his math teacher because she didn't know what a logarithm was < 1272775183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just brilliant < 1272775190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beautiful. < 1272775199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how can you not know what a logarithm is? < 1272775206 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean *god* that's basic. < 1272775211 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10100 in binary < 1272775216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I didn't when I was that age, but that's only because the state education system was tainting my mind. < 1272775232 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my coworkers was trying to get me to explain logarithms to her the other day < 1272775233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was dumb right up until approximately the time I dropped out. < 1272775243 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she couldn't get it < 1272775254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well your mind shouldn't be going at 20 unless you were exceptionally smart before < 1272775260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i conclude you're just thinking you're getting dumber! < 1272775281 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jesus christ < 1272775284 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what i mean? < 1272775290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1272775299 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant 10011 < 1272775300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what < 1272775303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1272775305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough then < 1272775324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: To make it even more awesome, I learned this as part of the only Harry Potter fanfiction to invoke quantum physics and Bayesian probability... why Yudkowsky wrote it I've no idea: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality < 1272775334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat!") < 1272775335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Hahahah. < 1272775346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite thoroughly awesome though. < 1272775368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He *actually wrote* a HP fanfiction? < 1272775375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1272775399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 17 chapters long so far! < 1272775407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazing, in a kind of this-is-an-utterly-pointless-exercise way. < 1272775409 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1272775413 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to build another computer < 1272775416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heheh. < 1272775420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: make it solid state < 1272775428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i encourage you to read it < 1272775445 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: something like that < 1272775458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: it'd be awesome < 1272775472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use it as your main machine and keep the powerhouse in some network'd cupboard < 1272775480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then make a command "faster" which sends commands to it < 1272775487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ gcc ... huge.c < 1272775489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^C < 1272775491 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ faster gcc ... huge.c < 1272775493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zOMG SPEED < 1272775494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ < 1272775520 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the name of the thing i'm thinking of?? < 1272775531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that thing < 1272775547 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did "faster" automatically < 1272775552 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no longer developed iirc < 1272775558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ccache? < 1272775559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distcc? < 1272775563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume we're talking cc stuff < 1272775567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than auto shellout stuff < 1272775568 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single-image multiprocessing? < 1272775572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what ccache's actually called < 1272775576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 5am damn < 1272775576 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Clustering. < 1272775585 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1272775603 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :general purpose, it would migrate processes back and forth as need < 1272775625 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single-system image clustering. < 1272775656 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's many implementations of it. < 1272775717 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, MOSIX is what i was thinking of < 1272775738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOSIX is still developed, though OpenMOSIX isn't. < 1272776051 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought MOSIX wasn't even developed when it was developed. < 1272776062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mo' six plz < 1272776073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOSIX: MAN POSIX! < 1272776075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSIX for MEN! < 1272776240 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hah. < 1272776261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 99 problems but POSIX ain't one < 1272778130 0 :Alex3012!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1272778165 0 :Alex3012!~chatzilla@ool-18b989d3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272778468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I can't wait until I can be awake at this bedtime without a nagging feeling of doubt. < 1272778686 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glasses++ < 1272778708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You are now wearing two pairs of glasses?? EXTRAORDINARY! < 1272778722 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh, i still can't decide what heatsink to get < 1272778733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Terahalems < 1272778739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Megahalems, but moreso. < 1272778740 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ++ only increments by one. Go back to C-like languages 101? < 1272778746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They take up 3 average office blocks. < 1272778790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, if you're the kind of person who needs glasses, you probably put them on every day, and you certainly don't mention it every day. So this has to be some special occurrence, not regular glasses-putting-on. If you need glasses you probably already have them on. So you'd be wearing two pairs. If you didn't need glasses, it's unlikely you'd have a reason to put them on just now. < 1272778797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the most likely explanation is that you are now wearing two pairs of glasses. < 1272778855 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I'm the kind of person who can see perfectly well without glasses, but who has better depth perception with glasses < 1272778876 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it is strange to mention such a common event as putting on your glasses in here. < 1272778889 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you do do that quite a lot; I should have adjusted my estimate accordingly. < 1272778891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho hum! < 1272778894 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently [minutes ago] got a hold of these glasses < 1272778906 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't worn glasses since 2007 I think < 1272778918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, it is not a common occurance < 1272778973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you've been living with bad depth perception for that time? Knowingly? < 1272778980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is this a recently-discovered thing? < 1272778991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowingly < 1272779015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's silly. < 1272779213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, it is almost 6 am! < 1272779694 0 :alise_!~alise@212.183.140.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272779701 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1272779743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 am? Hold out for 5 am, alise! < 1272779744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1272779758 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-wut < 1272779789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1272779790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just another 23 hours. < 1272779803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even get some tea to help you. < 1272779809 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You realise that a few hours after /that/, I will have to go back to the Place? < 1272779816 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1272779820 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I can barely function with one day's sleep deprivation? < 1272779825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1272779838 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although one day looks likely now, much as I hate to admit it (as I seem to think that not admitting it will prevent it)... < 1272779849 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happened last week too; why Friday night but not Saturday I wonder? < 1272779856 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do I sleep, that is.) < 1272779863 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tea would be nice though. But what if things get boring? < 1272779864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you realise that I find it hard to be serious? < 1272779901 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I know. But your advice is telling me to do things that I want to do, against my better judgement. < 1272779912 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm trying to make you refine it into something close but slightly more reasonable and serious. < 1272779926 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you should probably not do, even though it won't change anything. < 1272779937 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ, I wish I could just replace myself with a very small, rational, program. < 1272779986 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I strongly suggest you spend the next week asleep and wake up refreshed and free on Friday night. < 1272780087 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another facet of my irrationality is that I find it very hard to disobey when the idiotic knocks on the door - like I'm some sort of young child who isn't /intentionally/ not getting out of bed - progress from "