< 1274918588 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1274918652 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274918689 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, i just had some trouble with the prolog implementation. < 1274918714 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still fails at translating that to kanren, though. < 1274918732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1274918785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows naught of kanren < 1274919027 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody knows that :) kanren is the obscure brother of prolog, designed for scheme < 1274919116 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274919209 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1274919538 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1274919842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274920233 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :HARPOONS < 1274920450 0 :HARPOONS!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliottcable < 1274922624 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274922624 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1274922666 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1274922666 0 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274922759 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1274923538 0 :charlls!charlls@166.237.169.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274923975 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274924018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1274925233 0 :Rugxulo!~rugxulo@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274925292 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1274926299 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274926616 0 :Zuu!zuu@0x55529f1b.adsl.cybercity.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1274926616 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1274926617 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1274927072 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1274927133 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, this calculus course is silly < 1274927152 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they explain integration by substitution so horribly, mainly because they don't want to teach it properly :/ < 1274927228 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1274927325 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the question were simply \int x^7 dx, the solution would be \frac{x^8}{8}+C. What if the solution to this problem were y = < 1274927343 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y = \frac{a(3x^2-5_^8)}{8}+C < 1274927362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's horrid. < 1274927368 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the question is \int 2x(3x^2-5)^7 dx) < 1274927479 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what they expect students to do on a lot of these other questions, like \int \sqrt{2x+1} dx < 1274927623 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're so easy, too < 1274927929 0 :charlls!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1274928448 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Rugxulo < 1274929653 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274931087 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274931189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1274931230 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274931493 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1274931653 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1274932592 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274932775 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :dmesg < 1274932779 0 :dmesg!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliottcable < 1274934098 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1274935643 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274935772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1274936044 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1274936078 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274936850 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274936969 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274937387 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-1088893966.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1274938006 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274938136 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274939192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274939261 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274939757 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274940890 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1274941020 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1274941815 0 :sshc_!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1274941845 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1274942103 0 :sshc_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sshc < 1274943737 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1274945303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274946486 0 :gm|lap!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1274946709 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1274946836 0 :Leonidas!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274946867 0 :Leonidas!~Leonidas@unaffiliated/leonidas JOIN :#esoteric < 1274947199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1274947200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1274947615 0 :Vegabondmx!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Vegabondmx < 1274947766 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone who knows anything about the cascade-correlation algorithm, please step forward. < 1274947983 0 :atrapado!~rodrigo@193.144.79.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274949841 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hallo peeps. < 1274949858 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE BE NOT PEEPS HERE < 1274949875 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, first ever program written in Paws (the language I’ve been pouring the last half-year of my life into). Criticisms and such welcome. http://gist.github.com/415458 < 1274951379 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1274954991 0 :lereah_!~lereah@nanpc301.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1274955127 0 :Axtens!~Axtens@dsl-202-72-158-213.wa.westnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1274956577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliottcable: What's the language for? < 1274956589 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your first name is suspiciously similar to that of alise. < 1274956620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen the two of you in the same place. < 1274956684 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1274957057 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1274957164 0 :ws!wswieb@akson.sgh.waw.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1274957356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274957384 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1274957396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XChat is strange... < 1274957436 0 :Axtens!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: time to go home < 1274957638 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274957645 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523! < 1274957695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1274957752 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Phantom_Hoover < 1274957775 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either of you know much about neural nets? < 1274957817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I took a module that referenced them as part of my degree, didn't really understand it, and passed anyway < 1274957819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that count? < 1274957847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how quickprop works, then yes. < 1274957880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1274957881 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1274957943 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to explode! < 1274958164 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ah, it's just 2nd order rather than gradient expansion in backprop, right? < 1274958189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You're an admin on the wiki, right? < 1274958197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1274958204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and Keymaker have been the only active ones for ages < 1274958212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what adminning do you need doing, or are you just curious? < 1274958218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you check whether you have the "cascading" option when you try to protect a page < 1274958247 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a way of "salting" pages so they can't be created if you have cascade protection. < 1274958255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, the version's too old < 1274958259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can salt pages the old-fashioned way < 1274958266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I don't bother unless they get spammed a lot, though < 1274958284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I used to be an admin on Wikipedia, too; and I remember when cascading was introduced) < 1274958294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1274958307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is using really old software. < 1274958328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that old, it was upgraded a few years ago < 1274958334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to use a really really old version of MediaWiki < 1274958345 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god. < 1274958379 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has ReCAPTCHA been broken yet? < 1274958426 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, not according to WP. < 1274958468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of ReCAPTCHA-protected sites which get lots of spam anyway < 1274958492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not actually broken, just it's cheap enough to employ minimum-wage Chinese workers to break the CAPTCHAs that some spammers actually bother < 1274958503 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I despair for humanity... < 1274958526 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell do they gain from overwriting pages with random gibberish? < 1274958700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that it's a result of spammers scamming each other < 1274958729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one group of spammers advertises "I can spam 100000 random wiki pages for $500" or whatever, and people foolish enough to actually want to advertise using spam hire them < 1274958757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the spammers rip them off by spamming places like Esolang which are going to be reverted by attentive admins, and which anyway use < 1274958765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it's not a tag, it's an attribute, but you get my point < 1274958767 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who is stupid enough to advertise with spam? < 1274958830 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1274958854 0 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274958861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274958867 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1274958892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a court case in the US recently where a company sent out loads of spam for advertising < 1274958902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone sued them for spamming, and they actually showed up in court and lost < 1274958905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and paid the fine < 1274959361 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274960311 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274962016 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1274962697 0 :gm|lap!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1274962890 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274965125 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1274965401 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You know about topology, right? < 1274965411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do. < 1274965466 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you immerse a Möbius band in 2D? < 1274965512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mobius band is non-orientable, so no. < 1274965537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a Klein bottle can be immersed in 3D? < 1274965635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty obviously yes, given that is the top picture of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_(mathematics) < 1274965693 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the klein bottle itself is 2-dimensional < 1274965706 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Möbius bands? < 1274965713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 2-dimensional < 1274965729 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aah. < 1274965730 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mobius bands can be _embedded_ in 3d < 1274965759 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's what you do when you make the obvious cut and twist representation) < 1274965762 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your topological words confuse me. < 1274965789 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my delay in answering you was because i had to remind myself of the difference between immersion and embedding < 1274965830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :embedding = homeomorphism with range subset iirc < 1274965857 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immersion though is only locally injective (one-to-one) < 1274965868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know these words. < 1274965881 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I know injective. < 1274965905 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if it's immersed you put all of the points into a given space? < 1274965924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an embedding is a stricter kind of immersion < 1274965952 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a range subset? < 1274965985 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an immersion, you map all the points into a space such that _locally_ it's a homeomorphism (continuous bijection whose inverse is also continuous) < 1274966031 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subset of the space you are mapping into < 1274966046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the image < 1274966066 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But surely that would mean that the entire subset of the space would be filled with the thing you're immersing? < 1274966105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the wikipedia definitions imply that you use differentiable mappings, not just continuous ones. < 1274966126 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's technical articles hurt my brain. < 1274966139 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever gave them unrestricted TeX is evil. < 1274966152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, i'm just saying range subset because the range is not necessarily the whole space mapped into < 1274966185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um without unrestricted TeX they couldn't write about large parts of mathematics < 1274966206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that immersion of the klein bottle is not onto the whole of R^3 < 1274966228 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but with it you are immediately beaten about the head with various weird symbols! < 1274966305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that article's introduction only contains very common math symbols afaict < 1274966330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :letters, function arrow, element and subset < 1274966368 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact you probably don't need TeX for it < 1274966396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't talking aout that one. < 1274966411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1274966465 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the words... < 1274966485 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin has a lot for which to answer... < 1274966534 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although most modern stuff tends to be "Karspinky's surjection" and such < 1274966540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure not using latin would help. there's rank and neighborhood :D < 1274966645 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1274966647 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear that I am about to fall to the mathematical equivalent of the Curse of TV Tropes. < 1274966670 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 hours later I will realise that I have 5 tabs on set theory alone open. < 1274966729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: maybe you'll find it encouraging that much of that article _after_ the introduction is mostly incomprehensible to me as well (although i may know some of the words) < 1274966768 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1274966802 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That puts fear into my heart. < 1274966875 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I just realised that the neural network algorithm I've been toying with is nearly 20 years old... < 1274966955 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274966985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S OLDER THAN ME. < 1274967064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, it has not achieved sentience yet, or so we think < 1274967080 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-75.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274967093 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up on trying to use it < 1274967129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually seems to predate the CLOS. < 1274967151 0 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274967362 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1274967462 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274967584 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1274968795 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274969022 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1274970532 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274971056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274971670 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust220.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274972717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1274974502 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@79.103.6.164.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1274974524 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274977005 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274977546 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll have to write my own neural network framework... < 1274977550 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION quails < 1274978046 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274978833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1274978850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ih. < 1274978882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, loved iwc today < 1274978897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the annotation that is < 1274979016 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION preferred the comic itself < 1274979027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the annotation was rather short < 1274979029 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters < 1274979037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but that idea in it :D < 1274979044 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: O HAI < 1274979059 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1274979065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: IS TOO EARLY < 1274979070 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS FAR TOO EARLY < 1274979070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, here, take this allen key, should fit that mutter < 1274979072 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people reading IWC? < 1274979075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1274979081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, of course < 1274979084 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: of course < 1274979093 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought I was in an entertainment vacuum. < 1274979117 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know anyone well who has read Pratchett. < 1274979119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: me and AnMaster talked about it so much last year we had to stop. or something. < 1274979127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1274979147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has read some pratchett and is pretty sure AnMaster has read more < 1274979148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also shlock (sp?) of course < 1274979156 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read that. < 1274979158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well that is a given < 1274979164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly because the archive is bloody huge. < 1274979168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if oerjan reads shlock < 1274979172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1274979173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what? Disrworld? < 1274979176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discworld* < 1274979184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Shlock. < 1274979185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, IWC archive is bloody huge too < 1274979199 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but it was summer when I read it. < 1274979221 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274979243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I jumped into the middle of shlock and then read forward from there (about a year's worth of comics iirc), then later I read the first few years < 1274979266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh and darthanddroids of course. < 1274979275 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read that. < 1274979282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well same author as iwc so.. < 1274979292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"have read"? < 1274979294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly what you need is http://www.archivebinge.net/comics.php < 1274979297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you any longer? < 1274979306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes. < 1274979311 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the archives. < 1274979314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't used it himself < 1274979320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, huh? what is the point of it? < 1274979321 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR PERHAPS I AM FROM THE FUTURE. < 1274979330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er http://www.archivebinge.net/ < 1274979343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1274979350 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pete kills Jim with some dice < 1274979358 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to get an archive scheduled automatically < 1274979375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, eh. you mean like giving you a few old comics / day from the archive or such? < 1274979377 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one of Morgan-Mar's things. < 1274979380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1274979382 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is everywhere. < 1274979386 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in esolangs! < 1274979413 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI 2.1 is out. Nothing too special: fingerprints, fixes, optimizations. < 1274979418 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you people, I had just gotten some CLOS docs up and was starting to do something. < 1274979423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CCBI? < 1274979427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, do you still read mezacottta (sp?) < 1274979441 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well i probably wouldn't know about it if it wasn't his < 1274979452 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: My Befunge-98 interpreter. < 1274979456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once challenged someone to read every single Mezzacotta strip... < 1274979461 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They failed. < 1274979477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure, although mostly because i use it as my portal to all of DMM's emporium < 1274979485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you don't say < 1274979505 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I often ponder that algorithm they use... < 1274979661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, heh < 1274979677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, markov chain iirc < 1274979692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They regenerated all of the strips, didn't they? < 1274979693 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i've stopped voting for other mezzacotta comics than the daily one, though. since almost none get into the hall of fame these days anyway. < 1274979732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :minorly self-fulfilling prophecy, naturally < 1274979733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hahahah. < 1274979763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there was an April Fools day they did that, but it was temporary < 1274979767 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also didn't believe me when I told them the number of comics... < 1274979901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so which web comics do you read? < 1274980002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefall, XKCD, Girl Genius + Myth Adventures + Phil & Dixie (by Foglio), everything DMM related < 1274980047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm looked at Girl Genius. Steam punk iirc. Not my kind of thing really < 1274980050 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, and you? < 1274980072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm lets see... < 1274980084 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, steampunk has AIRSHIPS. Which are awesome. < 1274980099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iwc, xkcd, darth and droids, schlock < 1274980102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently that is < 1274980121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to read uf before, and used to read some other dmm stuff. Tried freefall for a bit, but it was tooooooo sloooooow moving < 1274980132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uf? < 1274980136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :userfriendly < 1274980148 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freefall is fun if you archive binge. < 1274980150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :User Friendly is pretty solidly meh. < 1274980161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah but when you done that it is just too slow < 1274980164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite fond of Freefall. < 1274980174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it *is* a bit slow. < 1274980179 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then you hit the end of the archives and it takes 3 months per minute of story. < 1274980179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it may be a good idea to split it into bi-yearly archive binges < 1274980193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may it might be enjoyable < 1274980200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/may/way/ < 1274980206 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : must have a long-reaching story plan... < 1274980222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No kidding. < 1274980226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, or not, and thus dragging out every minute of it < 1274980237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he/she can't think of something past a certain point < 1274980244 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a he. < 1274980284 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think he must have a plan, because stuff keeps going off, then coming back months later. < 1274980341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also iirc that girls genius, apart from the steampunkness (and airships, true, but I much prefer heavier-than-air aircrafts, love flightsim of jet aircrafts, yay for transatlantic instrument navigation!), it seemed to be almost as slow as that freefall < 1274980363 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never read it. < 1274980370 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Airships are just innately cool. < 1274980384 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what sort of data you're working on? < 1274980387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one reads qwantz? < 1274980394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's the domain name < 1274980395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well there is _one_ heavier-than-air aircraft in girl genius (gil's invention) < 1274980407 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you mentioned neural nets earlier < 1274980412 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ws: Yeah. < 1274980417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not prominent though < 1274980421 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not good at stuff. < 1274980429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I didn't archive binge it, so... Gave up long before that < 1274980463 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to be honest i've founded the latest storyline a bit technobabbly < 1274980465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, also considering the context I doubt it is anything like a jet aircraft. I would guess it is probably flying by beating wings? < 1274980477 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is also cool, however. < 1274980495 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a double decker iirc, like an earlier "normal" aircraft < 1274980508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...A biplane? < 1274980510 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1274980517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, unrealistic for heavy stuff. And slow. Sure it has been done in in real life as an experiment. Carbon fibre and other very very light materials only < 1274980525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it kind of worked, but extremely hard to control < 1274980529 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool != realistic. < 1274980530 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: um not sure of terminology < 1274980534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, okay those are just boring < 1274980555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's the fastest plane in that world though, presumably :D < 1274980638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that isn't the point. I don't go for speed in my aircraft interest. I go for either manoeuvrability (yay, English Electric Lightning or the Harrier!) or heavy and interesting airliners. Mostly < 1274980672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure I fly a lot out of interest, but the fastest plane in the world (SR-71) is almost as boring as a biplan < 1274980674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biplane* < 1274980689 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*found < 1274980698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1274980705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1274980725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1274980732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't locate where that would fit < 1274980738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either in your or mine text < 1274980739 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i can be ocd about correcting it you can be ocd about finding out where ;D < 1274980743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my text* < 1274980750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ocd? < 1274980755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on carpet display? < 1274980763 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats AnMaster -----### < 1274980765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay that would be awesome) < 1274980782 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who is an aviation nerd... < 1274980795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, thanks for considering me a friend :( < 1274980797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)* < 1274980803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn silly typo < 1274980819 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a very odd beard? < 1274980837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not currently no < 1274980853 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *wanted* to be an aviation nerd, but I was foiled by various factors. < 1274980855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shave every month or so. When the hair gets in the way of eating < 1274980862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much work doing it more often < 1274980874 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: girl genius does have giant robots^H^H^H^H^H^Hmecha^H^H^H^H^Hclanks, though < 1274980875 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your smiley suggests otherwise. < 1274980876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, neardness comes naturally. < 1274980885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, mecha? How very boring < 1274980935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant robots, mecha or not, are fairly boring. Now it they were made out of lego that might no longer apply < 1274981007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up trying to please AnMaster  < 1274981063 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if IWC had giant robots... < 1274981099 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does seem to have a shortage of those < 1274981157 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps AnMaster should send an email... < 1274981172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, depends on if they actually worked (mechanical strength need not apply). Imagine a mecha built in lego technic. That would be fairly interesting < 1274981182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could look at the assembly instructions that is < 1274981186 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274981204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a lot of lego technic and such < 1274982208 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an RCX as a control unit, it could get interesting. < 1274982365 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1274982401 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOERRJANN!!! < 1274983026 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274983242 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274983307 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1274983499 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274983794 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274983905 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, my clipboard has the null character in it. < 1274984686 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ws: Are you there? < 1274984967 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, only 5 minutes though < 1274985202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OK. < 1274985206 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1274985244 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing you asked about was an idea for a language in which you specify a fitness metric and the compiler creates a neural network acording to it. < 1274986737 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274986762 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274987423 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274987447 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274987607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274987988 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274988012 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-124.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274988998 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1274989206 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1274989593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : With an RCX as a control unit, it could get interesting. <--- yeah, 3 motors < 1274989598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need multiple RCX < 1274989599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1274990776 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@79.103.6.164.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1274990891 0 :Portponky!~no@cpc2-sgyl23-0-0-cust656.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1274992967 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Obviously. < 1274993342 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274995568 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hah < 1274995588 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: distributed applications, web applications, client/server stuff < 1274995596 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ... < 1274995602 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: positioned to replace Ruby/JavaScript or Python/JavaScript < 1274995804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not esoteric? < 1274995976 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must. Learn. Backrpop. < 1274995985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Backrpop/Backprop/ < 1274996032 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1274996039 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people’ve called it esoteric < 1274996043 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it’s sure no brainfuck < 1274996052 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though somebody in the channel created another clone of brainfuck called bewbs < 1274996068 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gist.github.com/402586 < 1274996103 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is to have a language that is a specification for a neural network. < 1274996203 0 :elliottcable!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ec < 1274996291 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@173.153.35.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1274996309 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooooooh < 1274996357 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 Android :P < 1274996478 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1274996707 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Gregor < 1274996728 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I hate reading PDFs. < 1274996746 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okidoke :P < 1274996762 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION disapperates. < 1274996765 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1274997549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love Android more if erm, I think I should blame the phone, not the software < 1274997555 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although HTC_IME lags < 1274998466 0 :gm|lap!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1274998888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion: bottom up design for lego is not a good idea < 1274998905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never been good at top down design though < 1274999599 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275000009 0 :Portponky!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a crappy BF style game with challenges and crap < 1275000015 0 :Portponky!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if anyone cares loolll < 1275000117 0 :ws!wswieb@akson.sgh.waw.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1275000235 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1275000516 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275000626 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1275001090 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275001112 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275001154 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-171.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275001349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portponky, hm? < 1275001355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1275001364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like bf joust? < 1275001392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust that is < 1275001614 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-34-41.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1275001647 0 :Portponky!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its got some challenges for programs to write which it tests. its pretty much BF but with easier i/o < 1275001667 0 :Portponky!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that , and . just put numbers to/from the tape < 1275001928 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1275002202 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoah! i think my poopish language is ready for prime time :D ... except it only has a win32 interpreter so far, but a linux version is on the way < 1275002263 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case anyone should be interrested in my quite different language: http://zuu.dk/regexpl.php < 1275002320 0 :gm|lap!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1275002518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portponky, makes char IO harder < 1275002550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu, tell me when there is a linux version < 1275002553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1275002582 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Im sure it will execute on wine with no trouble. < 1275002609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu, 64-bit wine? < 1275002621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 bit wine is a PITA < 1275002626 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be a linux version tomorrow, or maybe first in a month < 1275002637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, I'm not in a hurry < 1275002641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night really < 1275002646 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, it should work on 64 wine too < 1275002662 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nitghties :) < 1275002703 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I havent tested it on either though, but i see no reason why it wouldnt run. < 1275002757 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason i havent compiled it for linux yet, is because of some pcre foop :) < 1275002836 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1275003886 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ...