< 1281830402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uncursed food ration is rotten <3 < 1281830421 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION barfs on alise  < 1281830430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why ... thank you ... < 1281830456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, <3 doesn't mean I actually love it < 1281830457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it. < 1281830484 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have very poor vision; I see random things outside my vision. < 1281830486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would be the mines? < 1281830498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281830500 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In tiles, the walls would be strange < 1281830510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1281830513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your visible-light vision only stretches one square < 1281830519 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Mines are bad, right? At least for morons like me. < 1281830523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, I see walls further < 1281830523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have infravision, which sees warm-bodied animals at a much greater range < 1281830530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only walls < 1281830531 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're slightly harder than the main dungeons < 1281830538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ? < 1281830577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281830609 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your hunger is <200 (hungry is 150, so pretty close to it) and eat while hallu, the message is the rather nice "Oh wow, like, superior, man!" (instead of the usual "hit the spot" one). < 1281830630 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though in fact just about all the hallucinating messages are great.) < 1281830643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to use the hallucinating messages constantly but not have the other effects? < 1281830644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. :P < 1281830662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, there's a permahallu thing that you can compile in < 1281830666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you get "other effects" < 1281830668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1281830674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: AceHack feature request. < 1281830693 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1281830706 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716] < 1281830725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 food rations or a trip ration; any suggestions as to which is likely to be safest? < 1281830769 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tripe is generally for animals I think < 1281830780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Om nom nom food ration < 1281830781 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tripe-eating hallu-msg: "Tastes great! Less filling!" < 1281830798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :D < 1281830816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "map out the whole level before descending" strategy isn't a very good one, is it? < 1281830845 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People do the map-everything; I don't strictly adhere to it, but mostly. < 1281830885 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1281830905 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, it's only "tastes great" if it would taste great: maybe_polyd(is_orc(youmonst.data), Race_if(PM_ORC)). The usual "Yak - dog food!" is not changed. < 1281830947 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, a wand. ...Wands are good, right? < 1281830969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it's not a wand of cancellation you're stuffing in your BOH. < 1281830977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My what now? < 1281830980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, don't zap it at yourself < 1281830981 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bag of holding. < 1281830984 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOH = Bag of Holding < 1281830994 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, sorry, Holding with a capital eich. < 1281830994 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They die when you put /cancel in < 1281831021 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281831039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, looks like Felix didn't want to follow me down. < 1281831044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I go and catch em or will e come? < 1281831066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will not come, and may go un-tame if you leave it for too long. < 1281831068 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go and catch him < 1281831078 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He needs to be next to you when you descend < 1281831091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1281831105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnome lord. Eek? < 1281831134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do, what do I do?! < 1281831140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what a gnome lord IS. < 1281831198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a gnome with a superiority complex. < 1281831207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whack it with something sharp? < 1281831209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I'm in Minetown, doesn't it? < 1281831225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have a lot of vision -- I can see . many squares away. < 1281831243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't drink from the fountain.. especially if it's about to dry up < 1281831248 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, n/m < 1281831251 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should be warned < 1281831264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yeah, I just quaffed a fountain before then remembered that's the thing you /shouldn't/ do < 1281831265 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*do. < 1281831325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is it possible to get gnome lords outside of minetown? < 1281831334 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think so, yes. < 1281831344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And will a long sword dispose of one? < 1281831349 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you get a whole lot of Gs in the mines. < 1281831364 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not especially tough, if I remember right. < 1281831365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I already have it equipped. < 1281831377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can see .s more than one square away; so not Minetown, right? < 1281831396 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mines can be lit up sometimes. < 1281831402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? You can have Pestilence as a pet? < 1281831405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Okay, rephrase: How can I tell?! < 1281831417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, in Debug mode, definitely < 1281831439 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it has square rooms (and is not actually in the town bit), it's not the mines. < 1281831439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: this is from an ascension < 1281831455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: someone ascended while having pestilence as a pet. < 1281831459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: square = rectangular? < 1281831464 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1281831471 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The normal dungeony stuff. < 1281831473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really attack the gnome lord? [yn] (n) < 1281831476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds ominous. < 1281831479 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squares can hold exactly 1 dragon. They can hold 1 kitten < 1281831480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's friendly. < 1281831486 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, means it's peaceful < 1281831488 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1281831490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least non-hostile. < 1281831494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'll just walk around it then. < 1281831532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lycanthropy! < 1281831534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dear. < 1281831549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ... easy ... way to undo that? < 1281831568 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you went through the normal mines and arrived a place with regular rooms, that's the minetown. I'm not sure which one you wanted to distinguish.) < 1281831599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was just trying to avoid anything that wasn't regular dungeon. < 1281831607 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yeah, Lycantrophy. < 1281831640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I'm going to turn into a rat. The most exciting werecreature there is. < 1281831646 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pray, if it's safe in general. < 1281831651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You turn into a wererat! You can no longer hold your shield!--More-- < 1281831654 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, just #pray? < 1281831662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I find I must drop my weapon. < 1281831665 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "major problem' and will be fixed ~first. < 1281831672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the command #monster to summon help.--More-- ;; what? < 1281831678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't even move a handspan with this load! < 1281831685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: #pray would be a good idea now wouldn't it? < 1281831694 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can summon more rats if you want. < 1281831697 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now, < 1281831706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That sounds fun, but I can't move without dropping things, and I don't even have a shield or weapon. < 1281831711 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's been long enough from your last prayer session. < 1281831717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't ever prayed. < 1281831727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I haven't ever prayed -- might have something to do with the fact that this is only level 5. < 1281831736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, purified. < 1281831738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better. < 1281831776 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy water will also unlycanthropize you, if you happen to have some around. But it's useful for blessing things too. < 1281831792 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y an apelike creature (monkey) [seen: infravision] < 1281831805 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just killed a great ape; go me. < 1281831826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, so monkeys aren't great apes. < 1281831836 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monkeys steal stuff; that's annoying. < 1281831843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Fuck monkeys! < 1281831854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No thanks < 1281831923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pony kicks! The pony bites! < 1281831943 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to die ... from a pony! < 1281831951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I killed it. Phew. < 1281831979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Felix suddenly disappears! -- he's dead now, isn't he. < 1281832006 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He might have fallen through a hole, I'd guess. < 1281832026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ a trap (teleportation trap) < 1281832030 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1281832035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's gone, isn't he. < 1281832042 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then he's just elsewhere on the same level. < 1281832051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better find him quick. < 1281832064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Okay, there are Gs EVERYWHERE. This is surely minetown -- but I didn't go through any mines! < 1281832081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it just the mines? < 1281832095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there aren't /that/ many gnomes. < 1281832099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be the mines. < 1281832139 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he's right there. < 1281832154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The minetown is easy to recognize, since it has one of the N (where N is small) fixed alternative maps in the middle (largest) part. < 1281832204 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you saw those two downstairs, went down one, and it was still just dungeony, you're still in the main branch. < 1281832215 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only saw one downstairs. < 1281832222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't find another; but I didn't look very hard. < 1281832225 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just be careful, sometimes Gnomes carry wands of death... :-> < 1281832238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there was only one G on the last level; Wikihack says there should have been loads, so there we go. < 1281832272 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mines are very different-looking, with irregularish walls and so on. < 1281832291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, this is just an usually G'ish level of the regular dungeon, I think. < 1281832331 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A gnome infestation is no laughing matter! < 1281832374 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might consider the services of a gnomerminator. < 1281832378 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Things that are here: < 1281832379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : a looking glass < 1281832379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ┌───┐ a dark potion < 1281832379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : │···│ ┌────────┐ ┌─────── a two-handed sword < 1281832379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : │····##########·········│ │>······ --More-- < 1281832380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh... < 1281832385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes please. < 1281832480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't break the mirror ("looking glass"), it's seven years (or -2) of bad luck. < 1281832498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1281832537 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can apply it to yourself for a silly message, though. < 1281832628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel your magical energy drain away! Felix bites the orc zombie.--More-- < 1281832629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum ... < 1281832713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti-magic field; fun. < 1281832719 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just decrements yor energy ("MP") a bit. < 1281832727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Felix! Come next to the fucking downstairs. < 1281832740 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prosituting stairs? < 1281832752 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You know, every time I curse you don't have to make a sexual joke. < 1281832758 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick up all the whistles you see; a magical one is very useful for pet-management. < 1281832802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chain mail. That's gotta be heavy. < 1281832809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can probably drop a lot of these weapons, right? < 1281832813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+0 dagger, orcish dagger ... < 1281832841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*You know, you don't have to make a sexual joke every time I curse. < 1281832924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I NEED DROPPING OPINIONS, I AM UNABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON MY OWN < 1281832948 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you're turning into me? < 1281832954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1281832958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you don't generally need a huge variety of weapons < 1281832970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 long sword, +0 dagger, katana, orcish dagger, two-handed sword, scimitar < 1281832976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are droppable, which are keepers? < 1281832987 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i /could/ google it, but asking people feels less like cheating < 1281832990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ais523! < 1281833000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrt people-over-google, not ask-ais523) < 1281833008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*asking-ais523 < 1281833020 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: katana and long sword are the only usable ones as melee weapons < 1281833030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the daggers make decent thrown weapons < 1281833046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :katanas are better, but you can make the long sword into Excalibur < 1281833049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're lawful < 1281833049 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, katanas are just better, according to tvtropes. < 1281833053 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agh. < 1281833069 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'll drop one of the daggers -- orcish > +0, right? < 1281833070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Too late there.) < 1281833083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+0 > orcish < 1281833087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcish stuff is worse than plain < 1281833091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1281833093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't see alise as particularly lawful < 1281833099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but my valkyrie is < 1281833100 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trust the orcs to never make anything right. < 1281833103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're using them as thrown weapons, you probably want more than one < 1281833109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: might just dropping stuff make bad guys pick it up? < 1281833125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's not normally worth worrying about < 1281833134 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to keep only one dagger for floating eye -throwing, but it's a bit awkward to pick it up always. < 1281833137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops orcish helm < 1281833138 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what Elbereth's for, partially < 1281833142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh, only food I have is a tribe ration. < 1281833146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tripe < 1281833154 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tribal ration. < 1281833159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat it, it won't help < 1281833163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1281833163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be eating corpses more < 1281833164 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just play wizards. Easy to force-bolt floating eyes < 1281833173 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have two scrolls, three potions, a ring, a wand, and a looking glass. < 1281833178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go into the mines and slaughter gnomes mercilessly so you can feast on their flesh < 1281833184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those don't sound particularly heavy. I still have too many weapons. < 1281833184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively, pick up all the free food in Sokoban < 1281833188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you dare go there < 1281833195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+1 long sword / +0 dagger / katana / orcish dagger / scimitar < 1281833197 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta drop one or two... < 1281833202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop the scimitar < 1281833209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't dare. But I will try to eat more corpses; it's just I'm so worried about being poisoned. < 1281833210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the large box, if you still have /that/ < 1281833218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is chain mail any good? < 1281833222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you learn what's safe and what's dangerous after a while < 1281833226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I put down the large box immediately after I realised looting it was a better idea. < 1281833226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and chain mail is decent, but heavy < 1281833236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than my uncursed +3 small shield, presumably. < 1281833247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll keep both, so I can drop the chain mail when prudent. < 1281833255 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote you should be eating corpses more < 1281833267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Felix picks up a scimitar." < 1281833269 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :214| you should be eating corpses more < 1281833270 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so the context is too obvious, but I still liked it. < 1281833270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust you with that, Felix. < 1281833272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's only amusing out of context < 1281833279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and HackEgo eliminates context < 1281833281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1281833281 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1281833284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be relevant < 1281833284 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they say that no living thing could behold her without being turned into a trance before she spoke. ( encyclopedia mythica, ed. m.f. lindemans) < 1281833291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be relevant < 1281833291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they say that you can taste the delicious wine that much that he does " because now i know not. we can eat, and that was a favourite, and setting his lance into shivers, carrying him and shouted, " those six feet marked in chalk? much i talk, more numerous formerly than they are quite difficult to kill large animals. < 1281833305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is delicious wine like delicious cake? < 1281833305 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they say that rubbing a glowing potion is too small to hurt or help you. now, and secretly covets moloch's position. moloch doesn't trust him, and elrond their child. ( three songs to the incautious adventurer who can cause the traveller to feel the latter his winged shoes, approached medusa while she slept and taking care not to apply genocide to shopkeepers. < 1281833322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION insists on interpreting the first sentence as innuendo < 1281833333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elrond is a child of Moloch? Revelations! < 1281833347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Moloch is female, it seems from that < 1281833356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gay and somehow capable of reproducing, I suppose < 1281833357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that must be the most stretched innuendo ever < 1281833377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: hermaphroditic < 1281833383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is also an option < 1281833388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose < 1281833516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear trap -- shit! < 1281833546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move diagonally to escape for it < 1281833559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, I don't know what the flavour justification for this is either; to teach people to use the diagonals?) < 1281833560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's /it/? < 1281833562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a terrible bear trap < 1281833567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*escape from < 1281833569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and agreed < 1281833573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it takes several turns of moving diagonally < 1281833578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is at least combat-relevant < 1281833585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BEAR MOVE FORWARDS! BEAR MOVE BACKWARDS! BEAR MOVE LEFT! BEAR MOVE RIGHT! ... BEAR MOVE DIAGONALLY! [breaks free]" < 1281833594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281833626 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen so many giant ants in my life! (Two) < 1281833641 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go Team a! < 1281833642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh, ants < 1281833643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go team a! < 1281833648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, Sgeo beat me < 1281833663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1281833676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you nethackkers have the craziest memes < 1281833679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1281833686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your cutesy name for yourself ala pythonista? < 1281833687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ants do get more kills than pretty much anything else, though < 1281833699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ┌────┐# < 1281833699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : │··a@│# < 1281833699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : │··fa│# < 1281833704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the createst corner I can imagine myself being in < 1281833708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION displaces Felix < 1281833709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it helps to back the winning team < 1281833724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're winning, you might want to consider Elberething, even though it's a cheap tactic < 1281833725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ha, I just killed 'em both. < 1281833729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP:41(62) < 1281833734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smoooooth* < 1281833741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXP 6 INDAHAUS < 1281833741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, rather like XML; if it isn't working for you, you need to do more of it) < 1281833745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281833797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't you need something to write with and on to elbereth? < 1281833809 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1281833811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how did anyone play nethack in the days before google/wikihack? < 1281833813 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use your finger < 1281833820 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And write in the dust < 1281833830 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the ground) < 1281833831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they lost, generally speaking < 1281833833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there was rgrn < 1281833836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and later, IRC < 1281833849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is the founder of Wikihack < 1281833853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like cheating, looking up all this useful stuff < 1281833867 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "14 edits since October 11, 2005" < 1281833869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In name only ... < 1281833898 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do note that I called myself "Absentee" founder < 1281833944 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very, very absentee. :P < 1281833958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: be embarassed < 1281833967 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why? < 1281833984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT ANOTHER GIANT ANT!!!! < 1281833988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it tends to contain rather spurious tactics advice < 1281833996 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good on facts, but dubious on opinions < 1281834000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm just reading it for facts < 1281834008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, take a look at http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sgeo < 1281834029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he literally just created a tiny skeleton wiki in one day then disappeared for two years, returning to make four minor edits over two years < 1281834030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it :P < 1281834039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's hardly to blame ... or credit ... for anything < 1281834063 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1281834108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are giant ant corpses ok? apart from being incredibly unnutritional < 1281834116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're poisonous < 1281834129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : a | giant ant | Spd: 18 | Small | Genocidable | Lvl: 2 | AC: 3 | MR: 0 | Difficulty: 4 | Align: 0 | Small groups | Corpse wgt: 10 | Nutr: 10 | Atk: bite physical 1d4 | Flags: nolimbs, carnivore, oviparous, nohands, animal, hostile < 1281834133 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have promoted it a bit < 1281834185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: felix just ate it < 1281834188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess it's alright < 1281834191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1281834195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's soldier ants that are dangerous < 1281834210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION picks up a food ration < 1281834218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : a | soldier ant | Spd: 18 | Small | Genocidable | Lvl: 3 | AC: 3 | MR: 0 | Difficulty: 6 | Align: 0 | Small groups | Corpse wgt: 20 | Nutr: 5 | Conveys: poison resistance | Atk: bite physical 2d4, sting drain str 3d4 | Flags: poison resistance, nolimbs, pois, carnivore, oviparous, nohands, animal, hostile < 1281834221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pois", so presumably < 1281834224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281834225 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinoBot? < 1281834231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: some nethack bot < 1281834238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: asking it #!info name=monster name produces that stuff < 1281834240 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I tend to use rodney < 1281834249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rodney is human-edited < 1281834249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would, but i don't know its syntax :P < 1281834252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinoBot gives stats < 1281834252 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes < 1281834252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281834252 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1281834258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i an imp or minor demon (manes) [seen: normal vision, infravision] < 1281834259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: /msg Rodney ??soldier ant < 1281834261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1281834264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget how bad imps are ... < 1281834264 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, rodney gives useful info too < 1281834267 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both useful, but for different things < 1281834271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, manes are popcorn < 1281834273 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, are imps bad? < 1281834277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're really easy, and really numerous < 1281834278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ??soldier ant [silence] < 1281834280 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281834282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1281834285 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the red threw me off < 1281834295 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :purple is the color of bad in NetHack < 1281834295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm at level 8 but have barely done anything; am I not grinding hard enough? :P < 1281834298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from grid bugs < 1281834302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: that sounds about right < 1281834310 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what exp should i be at, roughly? < 1281834320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow, the room is filled with imps. < 1281834325 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bear trap -- shit! <-- Gnaw your foot off! The solution for Real Men(tm). < 1281834331 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, the rodney info on soldier ants was rather useful IMO < 1281834340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: early game it hardly matters < 1281834348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the enemies scale to your level < 1281834354 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, alise: iirc you have greater chance if you try to move diagonally out of a bear trap < 1281834355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, overlevelling can be bad for that reason < 1281834358 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange is the ways of the RNG < 1281834368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ring mail? pah, i have chain mail < 1281834369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go me < 1281834375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, that's what ais523 told me < 1281834382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: apparently you can only get out diagonally? < 1281834386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what ais523 seemed to imply < 1281834388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orthogonally works too < 1281834390 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's much slower < 1281834400 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I think there is a 1/32 vs. 1/5 chance or something like that < 1281834404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is never eating until weak a bad idea? < 1281834406 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well might not be that large < 1281834415 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the numbers might not be exactly that < 1281834420 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what made you play nethack btw? < 1281834432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i got it set up for a friend *shrug* < 1281834438 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus inspiring me to play < 1281834439 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281834455 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, playing monk? < 1281834458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peaceful dwarf! Orc! That RHYMES. < 1281834463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No -- Valkyrie; why? < 1281834471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc being weak exercises WIS if you are a monk < 1281834475 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You see here 9 rocks." Ooh, I should totally pick those up. < 1281834476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ha < 1281834483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Uruk-hai hurls a swirly potion!--More-- < 1281834485 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, might be Slash'EM only < 1281834486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A potion! How SCARY! < 1281834487 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1281834496 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It broke into shards and I'm dizzy now. >_< < 1281834498 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, weak abuses str I think < 1281834502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call a swirly potion: < 1281834517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "@-dizzier" a good name? < 1281834521 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, wait, it is hungry that exercises WIS < 1281834527 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and weak abuses STR < 1281834527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I eat as soon as I turn weak, though. < 1281834530 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is it < 1281834535 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: So there should be no effect. < 1281834562 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1281834568 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the nethack wiki < 1281834573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean SGEO'S WIKIHACK < 1281834576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRODUCTION < 1281834578 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no? < 1281834583 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I meant nethack on wikia < 1281834585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, sgeo founded it < 1281834586 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is rather useful < 1281834589 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe: if a foobear (owlbear or bugbear) gets caught in a bear trap, and it's not in sight (so you don't get the "is caught" message), it produces a You_hear("the roaring of an angry bear!"); < 1281834590 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, wait, what? < 1281834594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: which just came up < 1281834599 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ??? < 1281834606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: he calls himself an "absentee founder", i.e. he made 11 edits, 7 of which were done on the first day < 1281834610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then disappeared for two years < 1281834612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281834620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we literally talked about it five seconds ago < 1281834622 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, did he ever play nethack? < 1281834629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes ... he plays Nethack ... < 1281834644 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but it isn't a shitty VR thingy? < 1281834650 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not 5 seconds, I just checked my scrollback < 1281834670 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some 15 minutes ago it seems < 1281834670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, he is reading this, and you're being pretty rude ... < 1281834678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interest in shitty VRs != no interest in anyhing else < 1281834679 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I know < 1281834696 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anything < 1281834704 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while since I last touched NetHack < 1281834716 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because I don't want to screw up my decent game on NAO < 1281834723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281834724 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, laptopness and I haven't mastered vi keys < 1281834731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a decent, dormant game isn't very impressive < 1281834736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, vi keys are great < 1281834738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from diagonals < 1281834749 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes they are < 1281834767 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't play on NAO, way way too much lag from here < 1281834769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro has lost the amend faith ;( < 1281834779 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amend faith? < 1281834788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faith in my platonically-perfect editor! < 1281834791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has turned to the Vi Side < 1281834813 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your editor even exist in any form other than in your mind yet? < 1281834823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1281834827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it was going to, at one point! < 1281834862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's truly cross-platform, it has identical functionality on all platforms existent and non-existent < 1281834872 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1281834883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ALL its features are incredibly powerful and intuitive! < 1281834891 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, I have not lost faith < 1281834896 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so long as amend supports vi keys) < 1281834932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you do realise that you're not meant to use the movement keys in vi much at all? < 1281834937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're meant to use /, w, b, etc. < 1281834941 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. < 1281834952 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Ctrl-U and Ctrl-D and the like < 1281834958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amend will have navigational features like that, but probably not direct vi key support < 1281834961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that shouldn't really matter < 1281834964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who even knows if i'll write amend < 1281834979 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly, the thing I like most about vi is modality < 1281834990 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, that's a thing to hate < 1281834993 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't try to stuff everything into one set of keybindings, because that's dumb < 1281835002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: jef raskin hates you! < 1281835010 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and the commands accepting motions < 1281835034 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume jef raskin is some emacs guy? < 1281835037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281835039 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1281835045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jef raskin is possibly the greatest human-computer interaction specialist ever < 1281835053 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the command and the text it operates independent is a good thing < 1281835056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :designer of the original Macintosh, Canon Cat, author of The Humane Interface < 1281835078 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later in life, advocate of zooming user interfaces and stuff < 1281835081 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jef Raskin is right in some ways but wrong in others < 1281835088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :father of aza raskin, mozilla usability guy < 1281835092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: agreed < 1281835103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like modality, but I don't like Emacs-style keyboard control either. < 1281835105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows what i like. < 1281835106 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple interfaces are good. In cases where interfaces need to be easy to learn, that's good < 1281835129 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, power users need complex interfaces because they need to do a billion things < 1281835165 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the power user, I prefer modality to trying to stuff everything into one interface < 1281835169 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for my vaporware SL product, should I make two products? Easy-to-use, and power-user? < 1281835179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I firmly believe that simple interfaces can do complex things -- if I didn't believe that simple things can be plugged together in simple ways and create complex things, I wouldn't believe in atoms. < 1281835187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's just a matter of finding the right one. < 1281835191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1281835196 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : honestly, the thing I like most about vi is modality <-- and the lack of that is why I use emacs < 1281835216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you know, neither Sgeo's or your expression of that opinion was interesting, helpful or relevant in any way < 1281835253 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, to quote you: You know, he is reading this, and you're being pretty rude ... < 1281835266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was criticising what you were saying; you were insulting Sgeo. < 1281835280 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you were insulting him too < 1281835283 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that line < 1281835289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was not. < 1281835297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was saying that both what Sgeo said and what you said was utterly pointless. < 1281835305 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes that is insulting < 1281835326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You're an idiot who doesn't understand what "insulting" means. See, only the first half of that sentence was insulting. Now just stop bothering me. < 1281835328 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do Wiis have an SD reader? < 1281835332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do I call a swirly potion i know nothing about? < 1281835339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: yes < 1281835339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't < 1281835345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call a swirly potion: < 1281835346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just giving you the chance to name it as it just broke < 1281835348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281835349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you couldn't otherwise < 1281835350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just press enter? < 1281835354 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you fail to see what is insulting to some. Now shut up. < 1281835355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281835385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Insulting is when I say something rude to you. "You just said something irrelevant" is not insultING, even if you are insulted; because only personal comments can be insults and therefore insulting. < 1281835419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Until you grasp this basic definition, please do not claim offence, as it is certainly not the most offensive thing I have said about you and it is definitely not as offensive as some things you have said about me; you are just looking for an argument. < 1281835426 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree, but I'm not going to discuss this further with you. < 1281835460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, trying to seem like the More Mature Party by tacking on peaceful retreat after peaceful retreat is really opaque. < 1281835465 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, no longer bothered by alise < 1281835466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Uruk-hai shoots 2 poisoned orcish arrows!--More-- < 1281835474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this uruk-hai is irritating. < 1281835477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1281835480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do that < 1281835488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, announcing ignores, how wonderful. As if I even care what Vorpal says to me ... < 1281835508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: first he threw a potion at me, then poisoned me ... he's quite a while away, what should I do? Throw a dagger? < 1281835528 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they're fore < 1281835530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for < 1281835558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Felix yowls! The orcish dagger hits Felix!--More-- < 1281835578 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP:7(62) < 1281835582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How do you do Elbereth again?! < 1281835589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... Uruk-hais won't respect it, will they? < 1281835591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E- Elbereth < 1281835593 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they will < 1281835594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most things do < 1281835612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, just as I Elberethed Felix finished him off. < 1281835621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poisoned orcish arrows sound good to throw around < 1281835627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANOTHER URUK-HAI?! < 1281835642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's a penalty for excessive Elberething, isn't there? < 1281835645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there isn't < 1281835650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something is written here in the dust. You read: "Fl|e-cth". < 1281835651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't save you from ranged attacks < 1281835651 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281835653 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not quite what I wrote ... < 1281835659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it corrupts if you fight from the square < 1281835665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also naturally over time if you stand on the square at all < 1281835670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are uruk-hai shields any good? i guess not compared to chain mail < 1281835676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can stack armour and shield < 1281835678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really < 1281835700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 arrows, nice < 1281835703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron shoes? < 1281835708 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would a DOWNLOADED avi glitch? < 1281835723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what are iron shoes? < 1281835729 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1281835729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoes worth 2AC < 1281835731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather heavy < 1281835732 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they wouldn't be so good for walking < 1281835735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sounds rubbish < 1281835745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281835750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a lot of items are < 1281835753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another Uruk-hai? Sheesh ... < 1281835757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're the most protective of all shoes < 1281835758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have 5 HP. < 1281835764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : w - a -1 chain mail (being worn) < 1281835768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1281835768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ... that isn't very good, is it? < 1281835769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably cursed < 1281835773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less good than normal chain mail < 1281835774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that actually hurting me? < 1281835778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : c - an uncursed +3 small shield (being worn) < 1281835778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : w - a -1 chain mail (being worn) < 1281835780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double protection! < 1281835785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's beneficial, just not as much as normla < 1281835790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 = 1 less AC < 1281835840 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how clever is drinking a random potion to get back health, on average? < 1281835846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very < 1281835853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and does eating food bring back health? Wow, I need to pay more attention. < 1281835855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prayer works better, if you haven't done so recently < 1281835861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, most food doesn't heal < 1281835867 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last time I prayed was when I was lycanthropic, a few levels ago. < 1281835869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can pray for health if on below 1/7 of your max) < 1281835871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably too recent < 1281835879 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experience level 7, so that's okay; 13 HP now. < 1281835911 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aguh! I'm blind-- < 1281835943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1281835954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody uruk-hai. < 1281835963 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear crashing rock, fun fun. < 1281835972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are things meant to suddenly get difficult on level 8? < 1281835975 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make permanent Elbereths < 1281835987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's the average of your XL and dlvl that matters < 1281836004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exp 7, dlvl 8 < 1281836005 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write in the ground with fire or lightning (lightning.. makes you what you now are) < 1281836017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: not blind any more < 1281836060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barrow wight. < 1281836061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1281836074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if maybe I should run. < 1281836157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He deleveled me! The bastard! < 1281836198 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FELIX! Stop fighting that dwarf! < 1281836213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is dwarvish stuff good? < 1281836220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, butter than normal < 1281836242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, they're so butter. < 1281836259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't need weapons -- short sword, mattock -- but are their cloaks, iron helms any good? < 1281836320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably use the google < 1281836436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, dwarvish cloaks seem crap < 1281836444 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are < 1281836455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarvish iron helms seem quite good? < 1281836456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they provide 33% protection against things like level drain and poison < 1281836461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that sounds nice < 1281836462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarvish helms are good, yes < 1281836471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you can get more than 33% with various other cloaks < 1281836475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 33% is still better than nothing < 1281836481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are dwarvish mattocks worth keeping? < 1281836492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're heavy, two-handed, and dig through walls < 1281836497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally no, but it depends on your playstyle < 1281836503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, inaccurate but do massive damage when they hit < 1281836514 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how massive? < 1281836518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not massive enough < 1281836522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like anything that gets me out of a situation quickly < 1281836523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1281836526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloak and iron helm it is, then < 1281836608 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if i'm having difficulty on a level, best to stay on it until i'm confident, yeah? < 1281836611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281836612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that i'm a bit low on food. < 1281836614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even to go up < 1281836620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban's a good place to aim if you're low on food < 1281836625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know you hate the place < 1281836630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I'll never get out of sokoban < 1281836646 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it corrupts if you fight from the square <-- not if burned < 1281836654 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281836655 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* I wish kobold corpses weren't poisonous. Mummy wrapping? Sheesh. < 1281836657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sheesh! < 1281836659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's no pick-axe around and you desperate to dig into something, a dwarvish mattock is fine too. (But it's heavier to lug around than a regular pick-axe.) < 1281836665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mummy corpses are worse than poisonous < 1281836668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a delayed instadeath < 1281836674 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wand of digging < 1281836680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sweet. any cure? < 1281836689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few, but they're rare < 1281836692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, eh? < 1281836693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prayer is the only common one < 1281836695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unihorn, later on < 1281836695 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are? < 1281836703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal discovers that he's ignoring me < 1281836706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is utterly shocked by this fact < 1281836715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: apart from unihorn and prayer, the other cures for foodpois are really obscure < 1281836725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignoring people tends to mean you miss half the conversation... < 1281836734 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no I meant, delayed instadeath from mummy corpses < 1281836744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, the cures are rare < 1281836751 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you name a common one that isn't unihorn/prayer? < 1281836758 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, me? no < 1281836764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1281836767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Vorpal: < 1281836773 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I can't even think of any other one < 1281836786 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well lizard for cockatrice < 1281836788 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I know < 1281836794 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1281836800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that's nothing to do with foodpois < 1281836808 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no, with instadeath < 1281836811 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which is what I meant < 1281836819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the game has /more than one instadeath/ < 1281836824 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed < 1281836834 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you never answered my question about mummies above < 1281836843 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did < 1281836850 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which was (reworded) "what sort of delayed instadeath from mummy corpses cause?" < 1281836855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they cause foodpis < 1281836857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*foodpois < 1281836862 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as instadeath? < 1281836864 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1281836867 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is strange < 1281836870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foodpois is a delayed instadeath < 1281836877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is, if you eat them < 1281836880 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right < 1281836887 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what are the rare cures for it < 1281836906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eucalyptus, some forms of polyself < 1281836912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I go upstairs, will there be food, even if i previously vanquished the level? < 1281836912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :higher-end healing potions < 1281836917 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cure sickness the spell < 1281836918 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah polyself would work < 1281836922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: corpses, and only in small amounts < 1281836931 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it against green slime? < 1281836935 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good enough < 1281836947 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually, just went back up and can't see any corpsular things... < 1281836949 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why eucalyptus? < 1281836952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it works against absolutely everything in the game, depending on which form you pick < 1281836954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably best to descend downwards < 1281836957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because it's a foodpois cure < 1281836962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm hungry and need food urgently < 1281836967 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ... right, why is it? < 1281836978 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is it in real life? < 1281836979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you eat it, you're no longer foodpoisoned < 1281836981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I doubt it < 1281837002 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was trying to ascertain why they selected eucaluptus for it < 1281837003 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel that eating the large dog was a bad idea. < 1281837007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whoops? < 1281837010 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eucalyptus* < 1281837019 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: whoops, indeed < 1281837023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what did i do... < 1281837027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and why am I still hungry? < 1281837029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate a domestic animal < 1281837034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, rephrase: < 1281837035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're hungry as it didn't provide much nutrition < 1281837039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going to happen to me? < 1281837042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how painful will my death be? < 1281837051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you annoy monsters for the rest of the game < 1281837054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hey, the koreans do it! < 1281837056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Guh ... < 1281837058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How badly? < 1281837059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Any cure? < 1281837060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, as a valkyrie, you get stealth which cancels it out < 1281837063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hardly badly at all < 1281837065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's no cure < 1281837068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wow, that's awful. < 1281837071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no plausible cure < 1281837073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Just eating one thing can impair you for the whole game? < 1281837076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281837077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implausible cures sound good. < 1281837079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :List 'em. :P < 1281837092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gremlin attack at night removes one of your intrinsic abilities < 1281837102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a small chance it's agg monster rather than something you actually wanted < 1281837111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time, they just remove your cold res or whatever < 1281837136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1281837137 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is there equal chance for all intrinsics? < 1281837140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yep < 1281837161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so how much is this impairing my chance at ascension, taking it as read that i'm a bad player anyway? (even though it's a very low probability, how much has it been damaged?) < 1281837167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't hurt it much < 1281837182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your pet will be less tolerant of abuse, that's pretty much the only effect < 1281837185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright then. < 1281837188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd never abuse Felix! :< < 1281837190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because stealth cancels out the others < 1281837198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: didn't you hit him/her with a dagger earlier? < 1281837202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: once; and that was a mistake < 1281837202 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1281837209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only that time, and i'll be more careful next time < 1281837222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You can't have two pets, can you? < 1281837227 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can, but it's a pain < 1281837232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: BUT KITTENS. < 1281837237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have pretty much unlimited numbers < 1281837237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want 50 kittens. < 1281837245 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a record for number of pets? < 1281837248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will beat it. With kittens. < 1281837265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :record's probably in the hundreds, or even higher < 1281837276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone ascended with ridiculous numbers of pets? < 1281837283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most you can ascend with is 9 < 1281837290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? limited space? < 1281837290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably been done, but 8 is more common as 9 is kind-of awkward < 1281837294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, limited space round the altar < 1281837297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281837306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gotta be nice having all those pets though < 1281837315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :little to no worry if one disappears, very efficient monster-killing machines < 1281837319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people find them an annoyance < 1281837334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are carrying too much to get through. < 1281837337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my signal to drop shit < 1281837346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : y - 14 poisoned orcish arrows ;; they're not that heavy, are they? < 1281837353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they aren't < 1281837360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncursed +3 small shield, -1 chain mail, +0 dwarvish cloak, +0 iron helm < 1281837361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281837364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll drop the shield < 1281837370 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone once tried to dig as much as possible, polymorph rocks into gems, and ascend < 1281837381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are looking glasses heavy? < 1281837388 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& what do they do? identify scrolls or something? < 1281837391 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one stupid mistake ruined everything < 1281837398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: for what purpose? < 1281837403 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking glass ... as in mirror? < 1281837411 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: heh, DeathOnAStick? < 1281837413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's started again < 1281837414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : u - a looking glass < 1281837414 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes < 1281837416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in looking glass. < 1281837420 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, I done that, Have about 20 dilithium crystals in my current game < 1281837422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: monsters can be scared by their own reflection < 1281837428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worse, if their gaze does something interesting < 1281837428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that sounds hideously pointless < 1281837430 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, mirros are good against one particular named monster < 1281837441 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most NetHack items are rather situational < 1281837445 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: worth keeping, or ... ? < 1281837448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*...? < 1281837452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, you'll find another by the time you need it < 1281837468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i really need 20 arrows? :-) < 1281837482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you don't have a bow :) < 1281837494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1281837496 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1281837498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll drop the 6 unpoisoned ones < 1281837501 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, if you want to bring pets with you, especially if they're carrying something valuable, be sure to be careful what potions you drink on level 1 < 1281837507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i can still throw them though < 1281837511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and they seem to hit well enough < 1281837512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do any damage with a hand-thrown arrow? < 1281837518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I'm on level 9; a bit late for that now. < 1281837524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've drunk no potions so far out of cowardice. < 1281837529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, I don't know, but they've hit. < 1281837530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep, I think < 1281837532 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be back to level 1 < 1281837533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Maybe the poisoned ones do more. < 1281837535 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you DIE < 1281837536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Ah. < 1281837541 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Gasp, that sounds so unlikely. < 1281837557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Maybe I should pick up all the valuable stuff my pet has before doing anything dangerous :P < 1281837574 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point was a bit different < 1281837581 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What? < 1281837598 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are certain potions that when cursed, take on a more literal meaning < 1281837616 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to go somewhere with pets, you want to not do that literal meaning, especially if it's irreversible < 1281837620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow. < 1281837623 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes being cryptic < 1281837623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind spoilers. < 1281837631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'd never beat the game without them. < 1281837641 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed potion of gain level == you go up through the ceiling < 1281837642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: "potion of gain level" normally moves your experience level up < 1281837647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when cursed, it moves your /dungeon/ level up < 1281837651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so DOAS went from level 1... to level 0 < 1281837661 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only possible when you have the Amulet < 1281837661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :past the point of no return, and leaving all his gems behind < 1281837663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thus quitting? < 1281837665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just ascending < 1281837674 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to the endgame < 1281837677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had the Amulet, so it just started the endgame < 1281837680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee < 1281837684 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally, this is good, as it ensures that you have the real amulet < 1281837695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you ever ascended? < 1281837698 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1281837699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that's an ingenious way to ID the amulet < 1281837701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know ais523 has < 1281837702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1281837704 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never even came close < 1281837706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a very strong senes of know < 1281837708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sense < 1281837716 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what happens if you offer a plastic amulet to your god? wrath? < 1281837721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all sorts of bad things < 1281837728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrath is involved, but I think it isn't even just that < 1281837728 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the worse sin you can possibly do < 1281837735 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worst < 1281837735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant wrath in a general sense < 1281837739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. smiting < 1281837745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: nah, exploding a god's high altar is the worst sin you can possibly do < 1281837748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281837750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's always fun < 1281837751 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think worse then smiting < 1281837751 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOM < 1281837757 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can survive smiting < 1281837757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT BY SMITING I MEANT THE REAL-WORLD SENSE < 1281837783 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack shouldn't have the power to anger your real-world god if you have one < 1281837790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate you al; < 1281837792 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all < 1281837822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, the god does do bad things to you, quite possibly an expression of anger < 1281837825 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you wanted? < 1281837827 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks the source < 1281837832 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: YES < 1281837839 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the file with offer stuff? < 1281837844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray.c I think < 1281837918 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uH < 1281837933 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes your god angry, but not smity, afaict < 1281837939 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And makes you unlucky < 1281837939 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wide-angle disintegration beam is quite awesome. < 1281837950 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Pray.c#Sacrificing_the_Amulet_of_Yendor < 1281837972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do I really need an uncursed +3 small shield if I have a -1 chain mail, a dwarvish {+0 cloak and a +0 iron helm}? < 1281837989 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shield is lighter and better than all three of the other items < 1281837995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it depends on if you really want to use your other hand for something < 1281838019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1285. pline("A cloud of %s smoke surrounds you...", < 1281838019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1286. hcolor((const char *)"orange")); < 1281838026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does hcolor do, return the colour name in that colour? < 1281838035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just want to shed weight. < 1281838035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when hallucinating, you can't see colours straight < 1281838043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop the chain mail to shed weight < 1281838046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you can even take it off < 1281838055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you unwear...? < 1281838059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T < 1281838097 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I appear to not be able to take it off. Halp! < 1281838110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Longish paste, 8 lines.) < 1281838111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why you don't put on random armour without cursechecking it... < 1281838115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :521. if (!Disint_resistance) < 1281838115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :522. fry_by_god(resp_god); < 1281838115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :523. else { < 1281838115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :524. You("bask in its %s glow for a minute...", NH_BLACK); < 1281838115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :525. godvoice(resp_god, "I believe it not!"); < 1281838116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's uncursed! < 1281838118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :526. } < 1281838120 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :527. if (Is_astralevel(&u.uz) || Is_sanctum(&u.uz)) { < 1281838123 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :528. /* one more try for high altars */ < 1281838123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, take the cloak off first then < 1281838134 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's awesome how you can defy god. < 1281838138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, it is cursed. < 1281838142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :told you < 1281838149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gruh! < 1281838151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what now? < 1281838162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're hardly likely to be able to uncurse it this early < 1281838167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just have to stick with your heavy cursed armour < 1281838180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1281838241 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N a naga (guardian naga hatchling) < 1281838243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1281838262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Very rare" < 1281838266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am I exceedingly unlucky? < 1281838289 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they're pretty common earlyish < 1281838297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both cursed stuff and nagas < 1281838306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1281838308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was easy to kill. < 1281838317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's only a hatchling < 1281838324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yum, guardian naga hatchling corpse. < 1281838329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, eat it < 1281838332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ooh, an Orcale. < 1281838333 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oracle < 1281838339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now am I *lucky*? < 1281838342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guessed, just from the naga hatchling < 1281838352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the oracle isn't particularly helpful to a spoiled player < 1281838355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spoilers are better than hers < 1281838370 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She says some kind of ... thing if you can't pay < 1281838377 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't found it in the source. < 1281838405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm basically cheating, aren't i :( < 1281838422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way you're playing is fine < 1281838425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more fun than the alternative < 1281838426 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's either that, or dying < 1281838434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know. < 1281838440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the Dev Team probably hate me. :P < 1281838445 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is killing the oracle interesting in any way? < 1281838449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1281838454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she does fight back if you attack < 1281838464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely, /angering/ her doesn't do anything bad, because her only attack is a defense < 1281838495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I talk to her? < 1281838498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, #chat < 1281838503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but she'll try to charge you money < 1281838506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tell you spoilers < 1281838512 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1281838518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the major ones any good? 850 zm < 1281838522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minor ones are probably crap < 1281838525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have that much money anyway < 1281838526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minor ones are crap < 1281838527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just $690 < 1281838530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the major ones are also mostly crap < 1281838536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but at least you can tell what they mean < 1281838537 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get minor ones by eating fortune cookies < 1281838548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, do you want a major consultation? I'll grab one from the game's sourcecode < 1281838554 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also get lies from fortune cookies < 1281838562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lies are pretty amusing < 1281838563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sure :P < 1281838578 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eek! Dingo. < 1281838579 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Oracles.txt < 1281838584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If thy wand hath run out of charges, thou mayst zap it again and again; though naught will happen at first, verily, thy persistence shall be rewarded, as one last charge may yet be wrested from it! < 1281838584 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of the major consultaions < 1281838594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leprechaun ... < 1281838596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it takes 121 zaps on average) < 1281838604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Must be pretty desperate to do that. < 1281838609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: leprechauns steal gold, and do minimal damage < 1281838614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's generally only done with wands of wishing < 1281838633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I've known people to wrest other wands before < 1281838644 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLC seems to have lost the ability to be not-fullscreen < 1281838652 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281838664 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281838673 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1281838685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you kick again? < 1281838711 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl+d < 1281838762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh my god! It looted me -- then again when I tried to chase after it! < 1281838771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$690 to $168! < 1281838774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do that < 1281838783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: if you aren't holding or standing on gold, they can't teleport < 1281838784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I kill it and reclaim my cash? < 1281838787 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1281838793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will it be easy? Ish? < 1281838802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm not just going to *put down all my gold* so he can take it! < 1281838882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do tripe rations help at all? < 1281838887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they're pet food < 1281838897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: correction: they're my /only/ food < 1281838909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have negative total nutrition < 1281838909 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffs, what are you doing < 1281838915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: playing nethack < 1281838915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fuck < 1281838924 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-194-21-73.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281838926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, can i survive at dlvl9/10 with only $168? < 1281838930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should i really try and kill that l < 1281838936 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gold's mostly irrelevant < 1281838937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore it < 1281838953 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1281838956 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always liked the angband < 1281838964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but, then, what better way to get food than killing the leprechaun? < 1281838974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leprechaun corpses have... side-effects < 1281838979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am currently hungry; i ate the rest of my partially-eaten corpse before and a few turns later i got hungry again < 1281838980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hallu? < 1281838986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, permanent teleportitis < 1281838994 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a status that makes most people ragequit, even though it's technically optimal < 1281839000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you mean ... i'll just teleport everywhere? < 1281839008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or only around enemies? < 1281839011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleport at random, every now and then < 1281839017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that technically optimal? < 1281839021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't turn it off, although with appropriate items or intrinsics you can control it < 1281839029 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful in shops < 1281839041 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave an appropriate amount of money on the ground BEFORE picking anything up < 1281839043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because it takes you out of danger when injured, on average < 1281839045 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you want to steal < 1281839067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is: when on full health, etc, it doesn't matter where you are < 1281839070 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, now here's my situation: all i have is pet food, there's nothing left on the level as far as I know, and I'm hungry, having just eaten a few turns ago < 1281839078 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there any hope? < 1281839083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're hurt, you're in danger, and you'll probably teleport out < 1281839084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can praying solve my hunger? < 1281839087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: once you become weak, pray < 1281839092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it can, but only at weak or below < 1281839092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281839098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prayed maybe 3, 4 levels ago < 1281839099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that okay? < 1281839105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm willing to risk it if the alternative is death < 1281839106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... random < 1281839110 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on turns, I think < 1281839112 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addictive < 1281839122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very random, the random function involved is considered one of the most insane random distributions ever created < 1281839123 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could eat the leprechaun < 1281839129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes, that one < 1281839133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Rnz < 1281839145 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if i become weak, how many turns do I have before I die, roughly but conservatively? < 1281839146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it helps, the median value's known to be 350 turns < 1281839151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 100 < 1281839156 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely been more than 350 turns < 1281839165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, i'll walk a bit first < 1281839170 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 100 before you become Fainting, which tends to kill you very quickly < 1281839184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The winter wolf cub breathes frost!--More-- < 1281839185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1281839189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :breath attacks < 1281839197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't hurt you as a valk, but will hurt your potions < 1281839224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, Tyr < 1281839234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that gives you another 900 turns < 1281839236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use them well < 1281839242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is praying too quickly an instadeath? < 1281839248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the first time < 1281839253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the seventh or eighth time, maybe < 1281839255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281839260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a smiting then, or harmless? < 1281839260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it turns off your ability to pray < 1281839269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for how long? < 1281839271 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have just proven that my default course of action when bored is loading slashdot < 1281839272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first time, you can't pray successfully again until you give your god a nice enough offering < 1281839283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monster of level 8 or higher, 12 if chaotic < 1281839285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't time out < 1281839286 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got bored reading slashdot, so I loaded up slashdot to see if there was anything interesting < 1281839291 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION offers alise on an altar < 1281839293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I do that with reddit. < 1281839294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: haha < 1281839343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alise the Fighter St:18/02 Dx:13 Co:18 In:10 Wi:8 Ch:7 Lawful < 1281839343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dlvl:9 $:168 HP:44(69) Pw:8(8) AC:0 Exp:7 < 1281839346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: any opinions on how well i'm doing? < 1281839360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical early-game character, maybe playing a bit too slowly < 1281839364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why don't winter cubs leave corpses? < 1281839368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, i'm tending to map out every level < 1281839368 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made it to Dlvl 9 < 1281839371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a random chance of leaving corpses < 1281839375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, i did < 1281839377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is that surprising somehow? < 1281839378 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an accomplishment < 1281839382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've found the game easy so far < 1281839386 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is now playing Apples to Apples < 1281839387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very easy, in fact < 1281839391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, for pretty much anyone I'd say "find Sokoban, the entrance is on the level after the Oracle" < 1281839393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until level 8/9 < 1281839395 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck, finding a downstair in a roguelike is typically an accomplishment < 1281839395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and loot all the food there" < 1281839404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: haha, given what happened earlier < 1281839408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ah, you have a low opinion of them :D < 1281839414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait, what happened earlier? i'm starting to forget myself! < 1281839416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean < 1281839420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impossible level 1 < 1281839421 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Not at all! < 1281839421 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281839422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281839428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I got stuck on level 1 < 1281839442 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it covered almost the entire screen, had a bunch of dead-end corridors that nevertheless didn't have anything hidden < 1281839446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: anyway, food generation chances in Sokoban are /very/ high < 1281839452 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1281839459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: apparently had a vault somewhere < 1281839460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is one of the reasons you tell newbies to go there, as they tend to run out of food quickly < 1281839461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though i couldn't find it) < 1281839464 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-194-21-73.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281839468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: and I could not find a downstair < 1281839472 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sokoban also start with lots of food on the ground? < 1281839481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but ... you have to do Sokoban. < 1281839488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's that I Was referring to < 1281839496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you could always look up a spoiler for the solutions < 1281839501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: take a look: http://i.imgur.com/k06Kv.png < 1281839514 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave up on /that/ game < 1281839514 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban isn't mandatory. It's just a ridiculously good idea < 1281839524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that really /is/ cheating, though < 1281839552 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: under the boulder in the west chamber? < 1281839575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: wait, /under/? < 1281839590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I did suggest that a while ago < 1281839593 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and assumed you'd acted on it < 1281839595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I still have the save file if you want to try that, but you'll have to create an "alise" user or nethack will just delete it < 1281839596 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: sure, a boulder can be on a staircase < 1281839599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i didn't recall you suggesting that < 1281839600 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just push the boulder < 1281839700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha, you're probably right too < 1281839778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm satiated now! hooray! < 1281839792 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating while just having prayed for food: best idea or GREATEST IDEA? < 1281839804 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad idea < 1281839806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*having just < 1281839807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1281839809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yeah i realise. < 1281839813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but it would have spoiled! :P < 1281839865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm in a pit ... < 1281839871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm not! < 1281839874 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep moving, you'll climb out < 1281839882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: good idea, btw < 1281839883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So, I've just seen the Oracle; Sokoban's entrance is on dlvl 10, then? < 1281839888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's always on the level below < 1281839892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? don't contradict each other! this game is complicated enough as it is < 1281839894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is! < 1281839914 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281839952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :128 gold pieces, a light brown spellbook, a black onyx ring! Score, I think?! < 1281839968 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1281839990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "You hear some noises." It's dark. Looks like a Miney-thing to me? < 1281839996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the entrance to Sokoban is here, somewhere. < 1281840001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: probably just an unlit room < 1281840005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are gems worthwhile? < 1281840005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they become more common as the game goes on < 1281840010 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gems are almost worthless < 1281840013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how many levels are there, again? < 1281840016 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when they're /actually/ worthless < 1281840019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, a leprechaun! < 1281840020 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's random, but around 50 on the main path < 1281840031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The leprechaun escapes upstairs!" -- Hey! He probably has my money! < 1281840043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, am I stupid enough to chase after him for the sake of some zorkmids? < 1281840044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1281840054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: where does it start getting actually hard? < 1281840068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: never, if you're good enough < 1281840076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably quite soon if you're inexperienced < 1281840091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: presumably after dlvl 10, as this has been quite easy so far with the spoilers < 1281840107 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say sometime around 15, probably < 1281840115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the bigroom, if it exists in your game < 1281840117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks "Hmm, I should probably save, just in case"; realises that that won't help her in Nethack < 1281840175 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around the quest level sounds right < 1281840193 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually I go to minetown after sokoban < 1281840229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't suppose Nethack features HM05? < 1281840243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: water walking boots, I suppose < 1281840255 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I be ashamed or proud that I got that right away? < 1281840255 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281840276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: proud; I had to google it to remember the number, it's been a while < 1281840280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you definitely will need levitation at some point, although you can delay that for quite a while yet < 1281840287 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HM05 is Flash ... < 1281840290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281840290 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably pick up a ring anyways < 1281840292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamp, in that case < 1281840293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in an unlit room, you see. < 1281840296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(surf is 3, isn't it/) < 1281840300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I have two rings. < 1281840306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the mines are where you go for lightsources < 1281840306 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant a ring of levitation < 1281840307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think so; *it?) < 1281840311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Ah. < 1281840311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: coppro means a specific ring < 1281840317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a ring of wire and a ring of black onyx; not so interesting. < 1281840323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, most people just learn to live without light < 1281840325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a zinc wand. The worst material for a wand. < 1281840329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still see most monsters, thanks to infravision < 1281840333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ID that wand, by the way < 1281840336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how? < 1281840339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :engrave something with it (9 letters or less) < 1281840343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything? < 1281840345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elbereth" is a common choice < 1281840346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... with my fingers? < 1281840347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anything will do < 1281840353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :engrave with fingers first < 1281840356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then with wand on the same square < 1281840366 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then most of the time you can figure out what the wand is from its reaction < 1281840368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's write again? < 1281840371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1281840402 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you may go blind < 1281840402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just write Elbereth twice? < 1281840406 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 being surf sounds right; IIRC 2 is fly and 4 is strength. Beyond that it gets weird depending on the generation < 1281840413 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep writing it < 1281840416 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, should be different words < 1281840418 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, you're testing a want < 1281840420 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wand < 1281840429 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second one Elbereth < 1281840431 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that doesn't matter, does it? < 1281840435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Too late; the first one was Elbereth. < 1281840438 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for lightning... < 1281840446 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you really want to be blind on a non-E? < 1281840447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elbereth twice is fine < 1281840451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about *temporary* blindness. < 1281840452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it hardly matters < 1281840459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bugs on the floor stop moving! < 1281840464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either sleep or death < 1281840464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool ... I think? < 1281840471 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I should hope for death, right? < 1281840472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much more likely to be sleep < 1281840477 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep is useful, death is +++++ but very rare < 1281840478 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although yes, death's better < 1281840485 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any way to find out for sure? < 1281840491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important thing with both wands is to not catch yourself in the reflection < 1281840495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll find out first time you use it < 1281840497 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zap someone other than yourself. < 1281840502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until then, you probably don't care which it is < 1281840505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: The leprechaun! (Nah.) < 1281840525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sokoban has a high chance of making the game unwinnable if I suck at Sokoban, yeah? < 1281840535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it never makes the game unwinnable < 1281840538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's completely optional < 1281840544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may make the Sokoban branch itself unwinnable < 1281840545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but if I go in there, start doing it, get stuck -- < 1281840549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's no worse than just ignoring it < 1281840550 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you can come back out? < 1281840551 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no; Sokoban is optional < 1281840557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can go back out any time you want < 1281840557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's better than I thought < 1281840560 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can make Sokoban completely unwinnable < 1281840566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I tell if an entrance goes to Sokoban? < 1281840569 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you may incur luck penalties... < 1281840572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go down it and look for -- ? < 1281840573 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can come back with a scroll of earth/wands of striking < 1281840575 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless there are other ways to go out? < 1281840578 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Sokoban has an upstair < 1281840592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The priestess of Loki intones: "Pilgrim, you enter a sacred place!"--More-- < 1281840593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1281840597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: just one? what if you block it off? < 1281840601 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what money's good for < 1281840616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a strange foreboding feeling. Should I just, like, leave? < 1281840631 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I mean that the stair to Sokoban goes up, rather than down, so you'll know it when you see it < 1281840637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ah < 1281840642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: indeed, I can see it. < 1281840648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what about this preistly woman? < 1281840656 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you are dumb enough to put a boulder on the upstair in Sokoban, you will have to destroy the boulder (incurring a luck penalty) < 1281840661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*priestly < 1281840661 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you donate to wrong alignment? < 1281840688 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you're in a temple, you're not chaotic. You can use the altar to identify but don't do anything else < 1281840698 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: How many things can I identify? < 1281840707 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as much as you want, but only BUC-status < 1281840709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And will it accurately identify my wand, or just scrolls? < 1281840716 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281840717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it? < 1281840721 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the altar, yes < 1281840725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just identify everything, then? < 1281840728 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically drop your entire inventory on it < 1281840735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1281840750 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you do, don't attack the priest or offer to the altar < 1281840766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an amber flash as an orcish dagger hits the altar. < 1281840770 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that ... am I ...? < 1281840780 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's blessed < 1281840789 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't both remembering; it will show up in the inventory) < 1281840808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Okay; dropped it all, apart from the stuff I'm wearing. < 1281840813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the same as donating to right alignment < 1281840813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1281840818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could ID some more stuff. < 1281840862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I should just not pick up the cursed stuff, right? < 1281840870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: cursed stuff is occasionally useful < 1281840871 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: pick it u < 1281840873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but normally you just discard it < 1281840874 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*up < 1281840887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop it in a corner so you don't forget where the altar is < 1281840907 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try to sell it if that's an option < 1281840914 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: to whom? < 1281840918 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nobody really around < 1281840921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shops yet! < 1281840946 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will be a bunch in minetown, you can probably unload when you head down there < 1281840964 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wait to see if you can get a bag of holding from sokoban < 1281840964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay; i should get food soon! < 1281840975 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what happens if i skip sokoban, say by failing horribly? < 1281840988 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you miss out on the XP and the prize < 1281840994 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1281840999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound hugely terrible < 1281841003 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prize is really good < 1281841011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1281841012 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's either an amulet of reflection or a bag of holding < 1281841018 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay. < 1281841022 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of which are items you want to have < 1281841027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what am I gonna do in the way of food? < 1281841038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how stupid on a scale of 1 to 1,000,000 is attacking the priest for food? < 1281841042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick it up off the floor, it's common in Sokoban < 1281841048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: likely instadeath stupid < 1281841054 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 1,000,000 < 1281841062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but what if i /don't/ instadie? :D < 1281841072 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're still in trouble < 1281841076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it ok to explore the rest of this level before going down to sokoban? < 1281841078 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacking a priest is a bad plan with a fully-leveled and fully-equipped character < 1281841088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Sokoban is /up/ from here < 1281841093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it depends on your food situation < 1281841094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, right, whatever < 1281841098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go in and out at will, remember < 1281841102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: my food situation is 0, but i was satiated on the last level < 1281841108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you say i should discard my cursed chainmail? < 1281841116 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it on? < 1281841121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: unfortunately. < 1281841124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, you still probably can't take that off < 1281841124 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed -1 chainmail < 1281841131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try dipping it in a fountain; that's risky, but not fatally risky < 1281841142 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need holy water or a scroll of uncursing (or a fountain, as ais suggests) < 1281841144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You read: "Sparky -- he was a very good dog". < 1281841146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww ... how sad. < 1281841163 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you on nao? < 1281841175 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, sorry < 1281841179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to transplant a savefile to nao? < 1281841187 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not afaik < 1281841188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281841190 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, what is that telnet site that broadcasts your tty? ais523? < 1281841193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because NAO is all about proving you aren't cheating < 1281841195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: termcast.org < 1281841213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: port? < 1281841214 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't play nethack offline any more < 1281841226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: there's a more complicated protocol to actually broadcast < 1281841230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're North American; NAO isn't horribly slow for you. < 1281841231 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me find a shellscript < 1281841236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've done it before, it's something to do with script(1), right? < 1281841247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i'm playing very slowly, mind; in the realtime sense < 1281841250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script -f >( cat ./ratry_login - | nc -q5 noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) "$@" < 1281841258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where ratry_login contains "hello username password" < 1281841263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the quotes < 1281841266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, there's no hobbit netcat on archlinux < 1281841270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace username and password by an actual username and password < 1281841271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you create a login again? < 1281841277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it automatic? < 1281841279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it creates the login if it's a username it doesn't recognise < 1281841282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatically < 1281841296 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION downloads netcat < 1281841323 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel wise! You must have been very observant. < 1281841323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(credits: that script was written by sorear) < 1281841325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really ... < 1281841332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that script isn't copyrightable! < 1281841342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can stil avoid plagiarising it anyway < 1281841357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plagiarism is slightly different to copyvio < 1281841548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so does that start a shell? < 1281841552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "$@" < 1281841553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281841558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: clearly not < 1281841562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$@ would be the command, I assume < 1281841562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with no args it does < 1281841568 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you give args, it runs those instead < 1281841679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :head -100 /dev/random takes forever < 1281841687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you do that? < 1281841692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, why not /dev/urandom?) < 1281841692 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: to sha1sum it to get a password < 1281841697 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because it's a password < 1281841699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: heh, it hardly needs to be secure... < 1281841701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know :D < 1281841706 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281841732 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ping me if you go on NAO < 1281841757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nc: invalid option -- 'q' < 1281841763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works without < 1281841773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but has a tendency to keep running even after you've closed the terminal it was running in < 1281841774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on occasion < 1281841776 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you listen in? < 1281841780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org < 1281841781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to a session < 1281841800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done that already, actually, just waiting for you to log in < 1281841801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bah, I don't have telnet :D < 1281841810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches alise < 1281841816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dinky" is your hostname? < 1281841818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281841820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the laptop < 1281841834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281841871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can script's argument use shell stuff? < 1281841874 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I know a NetHack player who plays black-on-white with colours on < 1281841874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can it only be one word? < 1281841885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you can have multiple args, at least < 1281841891 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: owowoowow < 1281841894 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might have to do sh -c in order to get actual shell parsing < 1281841896 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1281841904 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that would hurt my eyes < 1281841960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so < 1281841971 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script -f >(cat ./ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 >/dev/null) nethack < 1281841972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work fine < 1281841980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, I think so < 1281841990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably inside the recursively opened xterm? < 1281842007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: something like that < 1281842029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "sudo vi" not "sudoedit"? < 1281842037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm a rebel < 1281842049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, -e takes multiple arugments < 1281842051 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arguments < 1281842052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1281842082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec uxterm -fa Mono -fs 10 +sb -bg black -fg white -title Nethack -e sh -c 'scr < 1281842082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipt -f >(cat ./ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 >/dev/null) nethack' < 1281842084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a clusterfuck < 1281842092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281842098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope it works < 1281842110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281842114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a moment I thought you were about to termcast recursively < 1281842123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: let's hope it didn't delete your savefile < 1281842136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I've done that with weird combos of nethack and script before now < 1281842153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION copies it to ~ just in case < 1281842156 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1281842181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ofc < 1281842183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :script finishes quickly < 1281842194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a... < 1281842198 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh --run-at-startup '...'? < 1281842206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what sh -c does < 1281842209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281842209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it exists just after < 1281842212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1281842225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could put a ; sh in the end of your command list < 1281842235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec uxterm -fa Mono -fs 10 +sb -bg black -fg white -title Nethack -e sh -c 'scr < 1281842235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipt -f >(cat ./ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 >/dev/null) nethack && ex < 1281842235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ec nethack' < 1281842236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1281842250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1281842259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : If the argument file is given, script saves all dialogue in file. If no < 1281842260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : file name is given, the typescript is saved in the file typescript. < 1281842262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what the $@ does < 1281842268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281842274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a typescript file called NetHack? < 1281842279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281842282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough < 1281842284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what's happened < 1281842297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I don't < 1281842303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how can options to script come /after/ the >() < 1281842310 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that the $@ is just a mistake < 1281842375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two alises, heh < 1281842396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise h was broadcasting nethack < 1281842402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that was a test < 1281842405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise g seems redundant < 1281842407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1281842409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh doesn't support that syntax < 1281842412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only bash < 1281842413 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281842470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, the $@ WAS right < 1281842477 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it wasn't < 1281842503 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there < 1281842523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: there < 1281842539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A /pancake/? < 1281842548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not particularly nutritional, admittedly < 1281842551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's better than nothing < 1281842554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picked up anyway. < 1281842566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bare hands" < 1281842570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, i have nothing equipped < 1281842570 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try re-equipping your sword < 1281842571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or worn < 1281842607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may want to aim for Excalibur next, once you have the food situation under control < 1281842616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't resist the temptation to mimic a pile of gold.--More-- < 1281842621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was eating that corpse a bad idea? < 1281842623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281842625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just an amusing one < 1281842629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes tactically useful, too < 1281842634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm /mimicking a dwarf/? < 1281842637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say if monsters try to pick you up, you can ambush them < 1281842642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some Matrix shit nethack just pulled ther < 1281842643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*there < 1281842648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you are a dwarf < 1281842654 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it says otherwise :D < 1281842657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You now prefer mimicking a dwarf again. < 1281842659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't mimicking anything else < 1281842679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of genetically-engineered mutant centipede is this? < 1281842728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not to hit your pet < 1281842737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can #chat before attacking to see if whatever's there mews < 1281842737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edible? < 1281842748 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and killer bee corpses are an interesting choice < 1281842750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're poisonous < 1281842755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also have a high chance of poison res < 1281842759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some people prefer to take the poison < 1281842761 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1281842764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth risking? < 1281842770 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sokoban doesn't have many baddies, right? < 1281842772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably wouldn't < 1281842779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sokoban's relatively - but not completely - monsterfree < 1281842843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long til i can see? < 1281842849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what blinded you? < 1281842853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a light < 1281842858 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few hundred turns < 1281842861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lights are nasty < 1281842873 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black lights are fun! < 1281842882 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281842901 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: shit! i just did 200 < 1281842901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, leveldrainer < 1281842906 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-194-21-73.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281842909 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what did that do? < 1281842913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 nothings? >_< < 1281842919 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :backspace = control-h < 1281842926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := go west until something interesting hapens < 1281842926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*happens < 1281842926 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, is alise on NAO? < 1281842932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no, termcast < 1281842932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: termcast < 1281842935 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet termcast.org < 1281842986 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm sick of blindness < 1281842990 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some times that you just DON'T wnat to feel what's on the floor < 1281842992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1281842993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it just finished < 1281843046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worth dropping anything for that < 1281843058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1281843062 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the diagonal corridor < 1281843067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281843113 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you see the ^? < 1281843116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sokoban. < 1281843122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What do you mean? < 1281843125 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I see it with my eyes. < 1281843133 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ^ usually < 1281843139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, this is Sokoban < 1281843146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ? < 1281843146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it's entirely visible < 1281843149 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, outside of Sokoban < 1281843149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean < 1281843154 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a visible trap < 1281843158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i walked into it < 1281843171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, get the boulders into the pits, right? < 1281843177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281843178 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, indeed! < 1281843186 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do i get to the other side? moving that boulder? < 1281843187 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION channels Teal'C < 1281843194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the leftmost boulder down one square < 1281843200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the top of the group of 4 to the right < 1281843203 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no diagonal movement? < 1281843206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in Sokoban < 1281843213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not between boulders/walls < 1281843220 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the top four? < 1281843224 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION almost made a mistake in his thoughts < 1281843232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1281843234 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would have .. oh, done nothing fatal < 1281843236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the top of the group you're standing next to to the right < 1281843239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top of "that group of 4" < 1281843241 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just move this boulder right < 1281843255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: til it touches the other O? < 1281843255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two more spaces, so you can get past < 1281843257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281843264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like you can do anything else < 1281843274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down again, i presume? < 1281843275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one needs to move down one square < 1281843278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get past < 1281843280 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, should there be some scrolls? < 1281843284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now race to the good before Felix gets there < 1281843290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*food < 1281843295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody felix < 1281843296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: bottom-left; alise can't see them yet < 1281843311 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful with displacing your pet < 1281843320 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wAIT < 1281843322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, wrong boulder < 1281843328 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281843331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am so terrible at sokoban < 1281843338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not to get Felix trapped behind the boulders < 1281843339 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrong move < 1281843339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1281843342 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if that's fatal < 1281843343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? < 1281843346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave that one, there are spares < 1281843352 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and type slower < 1281843354 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't displace your pet! < 1281843359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: why not? < 1281843360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the typing, it was the thinking < 1281843364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no huge imperative not to < 1281843365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i've done it thousands of times... < 1281843370 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I thought he could get trapped in a pit < 1281843372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even in Sokoban < 1281843378 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1281843385 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1281843387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the important rule is to avoid trapping felix behind a boulder < 1281843391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has nothing to do with displacing < 1281843393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, pony. What do you want? < 1281843395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ponies are /dangerous/ < 1281843400 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wants that melon you have, though < 1281843402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know; I fought one a few levels ago. < 1281843404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw it at the pony and it'll become tame < 1281843409 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a unicorn killed me on sokoban < 1281843416 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thess this isn't a unicorn though < 1281843421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it's a pont < 1281843422 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pony < 1281843432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: those are scrolls of earth < 1281843433 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be an esolang called pont < 1281843440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, turn on the hilite_pet option < 1281843443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can tell pets from hostiles < 1281843447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK < 1281843467 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have to resume my NAO game in here < 1281843476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, has felix abandoned me? :P < 1281843480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281843482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, he's just hiding somewhere < 1281843483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or she < 1281843484 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have two pets, great < 1281843487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just what i need < 1281843496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people abandon their pets around Sokoban < 1281843516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cruel < 1281843521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1281843530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't, btw; but I have more patience than many others) < 1281843541 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My pets tend to die < 1281843544 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1281843548 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while < 1281843548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The boulder falls into the pit. The pony neighs!--More-- < 1281843551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kill the poor pony! You hear the rumble of distant thunder...--More-- < 1281843554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm going to abandon a pet, I do it early < 1281843555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ugh < 1281843557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that solved that problem. < 1281843570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am I Evil now? < 1281843571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, at least the penalty for that wears off with time < 1281843578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: alignment and luck penalty < 1281843586 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, alignment doesn't change... well, not that sort of alignment < 1281843588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a large one, but it wears off < 1281843591 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll remain Lawful < 1281843605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: unless she tries to convert an altar < 1281843610 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, right. And he < 1281843615 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the character < 1281843620 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blarargh < 1281843621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the IRC nick pronoun < 1281843623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise the valkyrie is female, valks always are < 1281843631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is a female nick < 1281843633 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i like how it's better to be awful to a creature to start with rather than nice then awful < 1281843635 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might not be thinking properly < 1281843640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a slightly strange kind of morality < 1281843644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a game like this < 1281843648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can set the game to no pets if you like < 1281843662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this gets much harder, doesn't it? < 1281843672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first level's easy < 1281843678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the level 2 variants is the hardest puzzle there, strangely < 1281843679 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Sokoban, there are only two possible maps per level < 1281843686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, level 3, it's counted backwards for some reason) < 1281843699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't displace felix into the pit, btw < 1281843703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only possible while you're inside < 1281843715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, did you name those scrolls you picked up? < 1281843720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're scrolls of earth, always < 1281843720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no; should I? < 1281843726 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've forgotten how to name < 1281843727 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you may as well name them for reference < 1281843729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#name < 1281843733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then n to name a type of item < 1281843739 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pressed y, not n < 1281843741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZELGO MER, that is? < 1281843742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specific item < 1281843745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1281843749 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that's what I remember < 1281843767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, you don't seem to have two of anything else < 1281843774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that one must be earth < 1281843792 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't winter fox cubs leave corpses? < 1281843797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how am I still nourished? < 1281843808 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you wearing any rings? < 1281843821 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: small creatures are unlikely to leave corpses < 1281843823 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, maybe not enough time has passed < 1281843826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think you've spent 900 turns < 1281843871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat < 1281843872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poisonous < 1281843875 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1281843881 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never heard of a quasit before now < 1281843884 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have eaten < 1281843898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: if you don't know, ask pinobot < 1281843910 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm? < 1281843913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or #nethack, or maybe Rodney if he has an entry on the monster's corpse < 1281843932 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I ask pinobot? < 1281843932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: #!info name=monster < 1281843943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ugh, that's the hard variant < 1281843947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me ages to figure out this one < 1281843958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, uh, a solution would be nice < 1281843965 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are spoilers < 1281843975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horizontal corridor second-from-bottom, that's the first boulder you push < 1281843991 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pinobot helpfully only informed me that it confers poison resistance < 1281844003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: wasn't "pois" on the list? < 1281844024 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i | quasit | Spd: 15 | Small | Genocidable | Lvl: 3 | AC: 2 | MR: 20 | Difficulty: 7 | Align: -7 | Corpse wgt: 200 | Nutr: 200 | Conveys: poison resistance | Atk: claw drain dex 1d2, claw drain dex 1d2, bite physical 1d4 | Flags: poison resistance, regen, stalk, infravision, infravisible, imp, drain resistance < 1281844040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did I remember wrong? < 1281844055 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the bot's useless < 1281844068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no, it's autogenerated < 1281844069 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a poisonous corpse? < 1281844070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rodney confirms, quasits really aren't poisonous < 1281844071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't be wrong < 1281844073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, alise, misremembered < 1281844077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: pois < 1281844089 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, i don't feel like deciphering the move format use din http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_2a < 1281844117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% confident I remember the solution to this one; more like 90% < 1281844140 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone could just decypher into channel < 1281844155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Sokoban_Level_2a :P < 1281844170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a reason i wanted to skip sokoban < 1281844173 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just linked < 1281844196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: indeed < 1281844201 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: but it uses its own move syntax < 1281844202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*used in < 1281844211 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i will have to decipher in my semi-tired state < 1281844226 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can just spam the channel, of course < 1281844248 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already moved stuff around < 1281844261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm following it < 1281844289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why "dlll ll" < 1281844291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the space for < 1281844381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why god why? < 1281844396 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: why what? < 1281844400 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soldier < 1281844401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take that C_ration, btw < 1281844402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything lootable here? < 1281844407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good as food ration, but good food < 1281844410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore the rest < 1281844465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that felix? < 1281844483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm busy watching the final stages of a DCSS tournament < 1281844488 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS? < 1281844497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dungeon crawl stone soup < 1281844501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of NetHack's competitors < 1281844513 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack has competition? < 1281844517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i killed a housecat < 1281844518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1281844520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ugh < 1281844525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the corpse named? < 1281844529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it left no corpse < 1281844534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :double ugh < 1281844536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well... < 1281844538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was felix, wasn't it? < 1281844542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1281844543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very weak < 1281844549 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less likely, then < 1281844563 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: New quit message. Entering 2006 in style. < 1281844604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281844611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pancake sounds nice for a weak character, don't you think? < 1281844614 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any messages when you killed it? < 1281844618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, a slime mold! < 1281844621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: none < 1281844694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good to eat? < 1281844701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281844707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no it's not < 1281844708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not massively nutritious, but very delicious < 1281844711 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime molds, I mean < 1281844717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i meant the corpse, you !! < 1281844723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what corpse? < 1281844726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't watching < 1281844726 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orc captain! < 1281844728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blecch! Rotten food! The world spins and goes dark.--More-- < 1281844730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, those are safe < 1281844734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mysterious force prevents the black unicorn from teleporting!--More-- < 1281844736 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281844737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the blecch is a random side effect that can happen to anything < 1281844740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are conscious again. < 1281844745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even food rations < 1281844750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, unicorns = dangerous < 1281844759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unicorns = unihorn source < 1281844780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful < 1281844785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look what it did to your HP < 1281844791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, killed it already < 1281844791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i eat its corpse? :D < 1281844794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely do < 1281844811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finish the unicorn, if you weren't satiated when you started it's safe to finish < 1281844815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281844818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm satiated now < 1281844818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they give poison res, often) < 1281844828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although not that time it seems) < 1281844834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat anything further < 1281844839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you're unsatiated again < 1281844840 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No kidding? < 1281844845 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ? < 1281844860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is ridiculous for a second level of a segment < 1281844861 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THat's one of the easier bits to remember, guess you haven't heard it yet < 1281844867 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i have < 1281844876 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm having trouble just following the spoiler < 1281844879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's the hardest of the eight levels, IMO < 1281844921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit < 1281844956 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS has automatic exploration? < 1281844959 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work? < 1281844995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you press o, and it explores until a monster turns up < 1281845003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something happens that actually requires a player decisoin < 1281845004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "lr" --spoiler < 1281845005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*decision < 1281845014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS has really large maps, and mostly boring ones < 1281845017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so an autoexplore makes sense < 1281845056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am I doing well in general, btw? < 1281845062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281845067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realise i've had an inordinate amount of help but i've never got remotely near here before :P < 1281845073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard valk, which is pretty impressive given it's a newbie playing < 1281845098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although experienced players would have been more efficient, and thus had less of a food problem < 1281845117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, feel free to eat poisonous stuff from now on, as your unihorn will just unpoison you again < 1281845123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm mostly going slowly to make sure i don't miss stuff and to grind-train but i guess that doesn't matter so much < 1281845129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was worried about ending up in a difficult section unprepared) < 1281845137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valks rule the earlygame < 1281845164 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried valk once < 1281845169 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But almost always, I'm a wizard < 1281845171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that snake going to be an issue? < 1281845177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of snake is it? < 1281845180 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'd be better off with a valk again? < 1281845185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: python < 1281845191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not until you end up in combat with it < 1281845204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although pythons are rather powerful, you should be able to beat it, especially if you spam Elbereth pre-emptively < 1281845210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :werewolf -- shit < 1281845235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it at range if you can < 1281845242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you probably can't < 1281845250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have knives. < 1281845253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a shot, right? < 1281845258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :daggers are better for throwing < 1281845263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as you actually have skill with them < 1281845264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Knives? In Britain? < 1281845265 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have that too, but orcish, but blessed. < 1281845270 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: But you might HURT SOMEONE! < 1281845271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could try the poisoned arrows < 1281845282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best you're likely to do is soften it up, though < 1281845304 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :werewolves are immune to Elbereth, btw < 1281845317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1281845320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a trice behind you < 1281845325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elbereth time? < 1281845326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it didn't affect you that turn < 1281845330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, elbereth time < 1281845334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :werewolves are affected in animal form < 1281845334 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1281845337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :werewolves are affected in animal form < 1281845342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the turn after they transformed < 1281845344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what of the cockatrice? let it be? < 1281845347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack several Elbereths < 1281845349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll flee too < 1281845357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't attack you while you're on an Elbereth square < 1281845364 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't go blind and stumble on the square with its corpse < 1281845370 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a lizard ready < 1281845379 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have gloves on, it's fine < 1281845383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :live trices aren't really that dangerous < 1281845391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unfortunately, alise isn't wearing gloves < 1281845424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to business < 1281845433 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume adventurers are assumed to have shoes? < 1281845444 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no, but they're assumed to not step on corpses if they can help it < 1281845453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cockatrice is back < 1281845455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: just kill the trice < 1281845463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you're weilding a weapon, it's safe to attack < 1281845467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it touched me! How inappropriate. < 1281845467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and good, no corpse < 1281845471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to worry about that < 1281845494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF @ DOGS < 1281845498 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when you're blind and moving without feeling the ground... < 1281845499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those wolves? < 1281845506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coyote < 1281845509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1281845532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coyotes should be a pushover at this point < 1281845550 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's your turn counter? < 1281845554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned off < 1281845555 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it disabled by default? < 1281845556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i don't have one < 1281845560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"time" < 1281845565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I turn it on? < 1281845569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"time" < 1281845570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5549 < 1281845580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather slower than most experienced players < 1281845582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not awful < 1281845592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now it depends on whether you want to be able to have all the boulders freely moving after you finish the level. In this solution all boulders can be moved freely. Create a pathway on the right, enter the middle room and remove boulder B and restore pathway in the left:" < 1281845595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care :P < 1281845613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, lycanthropy < 1281845613 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feverish. Hmm. < 1281845617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not again. < 1281845622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the wolf first < 1281845626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't infect you /again/ < 1281845630 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you're healed < 1281845633 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, a lot of leather armor. < 1281845639 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead leather golem < 1281845643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(leather armor's pretty worthless) < 1281845645 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does unihorn fix lycanthropy? < 1281845648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281845650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Last time I got lycantrophic I just prayed. < 1281845651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fixes lots of things, but not that < 1281845656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been long enough since then to pray again. < 1281845658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: could work this time, although repeated prayer is risky < 1281845665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably try < 1281845666 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't pray with - luck < 1281845670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: good point < 1281845672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I last prayed /ages/ ago, in that big hunger < 1281845673 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did alise kill Felix? < 1281845682 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not sure i did < 1281845684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a pushover < 1281845687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281845689 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You killed your pony < 1281845691 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't know what became of felix < 1281845694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: good point < 1281845696 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably got killed < 1281845700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: true, that was a while ago though < 1281845703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember if that's a 600- or 900-turn timeout < 1281845704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last screen, and this one has been hectic < 1281845714 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok, any suggestions then? < 1281845717 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, 1200 or 1800 < 1281845735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just live with the lycanthropy, although that's a pain < 1281845738 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just possibly save alise? < 1281845740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: SHIT < 1281845746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I moved that block to my right right < 1281845749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: still loads of spares < 1281845749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was meant to move it LEFT < 1281845754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but now I can't use the solution < 1281845759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the one below you right, then up < 1281845760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Probably :P < 1281845769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that isn't right < 1281845774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Indeed. Whoops. < 1281845779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281845781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've Royally Fucked This One Up. < 1281845787 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, you need 5 boulders to finish < 1281845791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a capital royally fucked this one up. < 1281845794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one near the bottom is completely free, and obvious < 1281845800 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281845801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do that one < 1281845822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can free up 7 others < 1281845826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1281845828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so still solvable < 1281845831 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? < 1281845834 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#monster? :D < 1281845838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you've escaped your cursed ring mail < 1281845844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't fit on a wolf body < 1281845854 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281845888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I might risk prayer now, although the downsides if it doesn't work are quite large < 1281845898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they'll effectively prevent you from praying again for ages) < 1281845954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe I'll just s for a while? < 1281845965 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could work < 1281845969 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long; 50 turns? < 1281845971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'll hunger you and get monsters to turn up < 1281845977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, what about #monsters? < 1281845978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :till you turn back < 1281845981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#monster summons pets < 1281845984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281845995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tiger < 1281845998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's praying time < 1281846004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it'll turn you back if you like < 1281846009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1281846011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running out of HP in monster form = turn into player form < 1281846014 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281846018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you'll then not have your equipment on you < 1281846047 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: correction, I still have my chain mail < 1281846049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it broke < 1281846052 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it broke < 1281846064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow down < 1281846068 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check HI < 1281846070 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1281846070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just hit you for half your remaining HP < 1281846071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh hsit < 1281846073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the other half < 1281846074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just died < 1281846078 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, anyone have a good solution to the expression problem? < 1281846080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the midst of combat < 1281846082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1281846088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'd just been more patient < 1281846092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was so desperate to defend myself < 1281846093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! < 1281846095 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Requiest in Peace, Elliott < 1281846099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Alise < 1281846103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps himself < 1281846117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: AceHack suggestion: "Undo The Last Three Fucking Retarded Moves I Just Did" < 1281846131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281846144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low HP is a lot more visible in AceHack than regular NetHack < 1281846151 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw when your HP was down to 17 or 7 (forget which) < 1281846174 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to say something. Maybe I shoupd have just said HP < 1281846181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: has nethack been known to cause depression? < 1281846187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not AFAIK < 1281846194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has now! < 1281846207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see, that'd have been better if it was more gradual rather than doing this well on my first game :D < 1281846224 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second game < 1281846230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ,yes < 1281846231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*well, yes < 1281846236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one where you don't get past the first screen hardly counts < 1281846237 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might it be better to play on NAO now? < 1281846240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: why? < 1281846244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: NAO's a bitch from the UK < 1281846247 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1281846247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ais523 said < 1281846248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEU tends to work better < 1281846252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's in the right continent < 1281846254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ais523 doesn't often swear :P < 1281846259 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: but why? < 1281846260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't a swearword < 1281846262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the fastest version < 1281846264 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1281846265 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mail < 1281846267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, bitch as a derogatory term for something is < 1281846269 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bones < 1281846275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I care very little. < 1281846281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You are dead." you don't say < 1281846292 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your death announced in #nethack < 1281846302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just got announced here < 1281846331 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while helpless? < 1281846356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, while not paying attention to HP < 1281846357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ---------- < 1281846357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1281846357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / REST \ < 1281846357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / IN \ < 1281846357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / PEACE \ < 1281846358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / \ < 1281846360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | alise | < 1281846361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 597 Au | < 1281846364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | killed by a | < 1281846365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | tiger, while | < 1281846368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | helpless | < 1281846370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | | < 1281846372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | 2010 | < 1281846373 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, must be while putting on armor < 1281846374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : *| * * * | * < 1281846375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : _________)/\\_//(\/(/\)/\//\/|_)_______ < 1281846378 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while helpless < 1281846379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i was busy equipping armour) < 1281846392 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...sniff < 1281846392 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: if it's any consolation, the armour-equip code is hugely inconsistent in the way it handles time < 1281846399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it wouldn't have saved me < 1281846408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I should have prayed as soon as I became low on HP < 1281846412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281846417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Elberethed as soon as you rehumanised < 1281846427 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens with elbereth as monster? < 1281846429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd start again... but it's half four. < 1281846433 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: you run away from yourself < 1281846439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Tomorrow, then, I will. < 1281846452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I don't think jackals are physically capable of engraving < 1281846458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that, it works just fine < 1281846460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wolves < 1281846461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, both < 1281846476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is irritating. < 1281846498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if I copy back my slightly older save file, nethack will creep into my window while i sleep and slit my throat, won't it? < 1281846504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I copied it in case my script broke it) < 1281846518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: all of #nethack and rgrn will bitch at you < 1281846522 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what script? < 1281846529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not considered to be a very good learning experience < 1281846532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the termcast one < 1281846533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mm :P < 1281846543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't be so bad that people kill you in RL. Probably. < 1281846549 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1281846610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, at least i've proved to myself that i have the attention span for nethack < 1281846621 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when fighting tigers < 1281846625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1281846631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite strange, how i enjoy it < 1281846635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a mild, background enjoyment < 1281846638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contentedness < 1281846639 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dying to tigers? < 1281846648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes, I died to a tiger! Without armour! < 1281846667 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, that's how you enjoy it < 1281846671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1281846674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Nethack. < 1281846689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying can be fun too, but the actual play is generally better < 1281846690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think I did fairly well there. < 1281846694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do I < 1281846698 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my first real game. < 1281846709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showthread.php?t=9571 if you're interested < 1281846720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's someone else's Let's Play of NetHack, and one of the better ones on that site < 1281846817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think a "GUI" interface using the ascii tiles but that has a little tooltip with the output of ; appear if you hover over a tile would be really useful < 1281846819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with the mouse) < 1281846838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NETHAX did that, while it still existed < 1281846844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it was pretty awful in other ways < 1281846859 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ajax nethack? how strange < 1281846859 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; can certainly be improved, say by showing descriptions without having to press . < 1281846860 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NETHAX? < 1281846865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, AJAX NetHack < 1281846870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but simply moving the cursor around is irritating < 1281846875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hovering would be so much nicer, the mouse is designed for that < 1281846879 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x,y) positioning < 1281846884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281846893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I ever make tiles AceHack, I'll think about it < 1281846905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: on that let's play: < 1281846907 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In NetHack? None. I've never even made it to Sokoban." < 1281846913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST HE WAS INFERIOR TO ME. < 1281846917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: doesn't need tiles, just use the ascii < 1281846923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in an x11 window < 1281846928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "tiles", I mean "non-tty build" < 1281846931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPLEMENT EVERY FEATURE NOW :P < 1281846939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :commonly, tiles that look exactly like ASCII characters are used < 1281846956 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't let you configure font, though >:D < 1281847000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: urgh, that let's play uses tiles < 1281847006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1281847011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't an awful tileset, though < 1281847018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tiles are based on letters < 1281847025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1281847036 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1281847058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do cockatrice corpses do again? < 1281847091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn things to stone, on contact < 1281847108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is applied pretty liberally throughout NetHack < 1281847114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful < 1281847116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can turn things to stone in over thirty different ways < 1281847120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a list of them somewhere < 1281847129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than thirty ways to stone a monster < 1281847154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, a player < 1281847161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the actions involved aren't ones monsters actually do < 1281847166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either because it isn't in their AI, or because they know better < 1281847188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke :| < 1281847200 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1281847201 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than thirty ways to stone a player < 1281847232 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of them involve cannabis < 1281847258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to make that reference but deemed it too cheesy < 1281847546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: RIP Felix, btw < 1281847551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*btw. < 1281847559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether me or a monster killed him, but there you go. < 1281847563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1281847566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you determine that? < 1281847566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also RIP anonymous pony. < 1281847586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, felix disappeared for a while, i fought an easy housecat, a bunch of difficult monsters attacked me after that, and I never saw Felix again < 1281847596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281847600 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore either he was the housecat, or one of the monsters got him < 1281847606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killing /both/ your pets is actually kind-of impressive < 1281847608 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281847614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have had terrible karma < 1281847629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed that pony by rolling it into a pit with a boulder, how awesome is that???? < 1281847647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack deaths are often awesome < 1281847720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i'd died by the tiger rolling me into a pit with a boulder < 1281847749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only monsters that use boulders are giants < 1281847755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't roll them, they throw them < 1281847763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giants can be an interesting challenge < 1281847836 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have the URL to the rotating SVG google? < 1281847843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281847846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281848013 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could google it < 1281848024 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1281848373 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Green cards per players: Sgeo - 4, hurristat - 3, Maximinus - 8, NPCApple - 5 < 1281848383 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maximinus - nearly twice as human as a bot! < 1281848398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1281848402 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it was taken down < 1281848414 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, shouldn't you be sleeping? < 1281848424 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: is that A2A? < 1281848429 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281848435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: meh < 1281848436 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#applestoapples in Foonetic < 1281848436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: why? < 1281848441 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: A2A with a bot... < 1281848451 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's such a bad idea < 1281848457 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is that run by Dritz? < 1281848463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apples to SNAPPLES < 1281848469 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the bot. The ...game... bot < 1281848471 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1281848478 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: NPCApple is not a bot? < 1281848483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281848486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NPCApple is a bot < 1281848486 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281848487 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NPCApple is a bot < 1281848488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not Dritz's < 1281848493 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1281848494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game-running bot, Trilby, is Dritz's < 1281848495 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1281848496 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: I know nothing of this < 1281848499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just good at parsing < 1281848506 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I get that < 1281848516 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my question is, how does it make sense to play A2A against a bot < 1281848517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: you get this < 1281848531 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, there were few players and we were desperate < 1281848538 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it made surprisingly good plays < 1281848539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :desperate for comfort < 1281848545 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, as judged by our judges < 1281848547 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: ping me next time, I might come over < 1281848555 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it's the judge? does it pick randomly? < 1281848570 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It picks the same way as it picks cards from its hand, apparently < 1281848573 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes sense < 1281848632 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there's some heuristic? < 1281848647 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently < 1281848653 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue what it is, though < 1281848661 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never even heard of applestoapples before today, actually < 1281848687 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not true, even ignoring the technicality of my timezone < 1281848695 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in that channel once before, according to logs < 1281848714 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just remember absolutely nothing < 1281848755 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you find out about it? < 1281848766 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone mentioned it in another channel < 1281848848 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't know about the channel, but I've been poking around there, so when you said it was on foonetic Dritz came to mind) < 1281848894 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I mean, he managed to play "Mom's cooking" on "deadly".... < 1281848968 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281849487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toldfjort < 1281849593 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281849614 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing about magical system in Icosahedral RPG, is, it is mathematical! < 1281849618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASP! < 1281849629 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has considered trying out Paranoia < 1281849659 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I perused the sourcebook today; it looks Highly Entertaining < 1281849706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :murphy had a paranoia nomic thing going on at one point < 1281849708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: YOU ARE NOT CLEARED FOR THAT INFORMATION, CITIZEN < 1281849720 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE REPORT FOR TERMINATION < 1281849721 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I thought perusing the sourcebook is considered cheating in Paranoia? But I don't know, I never played (and might not ever? possibly?) < 1281849723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: BlogNomic inspired you? < 1281849736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually, letting on that you know the rules is against the rules < 1281849744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's perfectly fine to know them, so long as you don't admit to it < 1281849778 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1281849778 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: O, sorry, now I know. (Now I am cheating too.) < 1281849803 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The biggest lie ever: "I have read and agree to the Terms of Use". < 1281849808 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you played it or is this Wikipediad? < 1281849813 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wikipediaed?) < 1281849820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I have played it, three times I think < 1281849837 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it fun? < 1281849839 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You break the Computer's rules in Paranoia anyway < 1281849852 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets terminated < 1281849861 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GMed a game once < 1281849866 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1281849881 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone suggested that the worst thing I did was listen to one of the other players < 1281849885 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one person said that < 1281849903 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, I can now usually know the title of the page I am looking for on Wikipedia directly, so I can just type C-l :w and type it in without having to search first.) < 1281849909 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, crud < 1281849922 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place where I was hosting the log got my password recently < 1281849934 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cleared out the malware-containing stuff, but never changed the password < 1281849942 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now everything's reinfected < 1281849944 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1281849967 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Sgeo_: You are not answering my question, in violation of good sense and decency. Please respond or face punishment. < 1281849980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: oh, I didn't see the question < 1281849983 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fun to play as a one-off < 1281849988 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played much < 1281849991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would probably get tiresome as a continuing campaign < 1281850010 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has never played < 1281850040 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i'm always dead serious. < 1281850049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead and serious < 1281850054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains.. < 1281850107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walk -> < 1281850112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: zombies can't walk < 1281850113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they lurch < 1281850134 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1281850146 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lurch -> < 1281850236 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latch -> < 1281850244 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to repost the log < 1281850248 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To a safe place < 1281850254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A safe, warm place. < 1281850263 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as I figure out sed to a good enough degree to remove the malicious script < 1281850270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1281850282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What malicious script? < 1281850293 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What log do you mean? < 1281850311 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the game I GMed < 1281850323 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, A2A is starting < 1281850324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what malicious script? < 1281850328 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be participating though < 1281850339 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I use a friend's hosting for stuff... the diagonalfish one < 1281850345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: and? < 1281850350 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malicious stuff was added. I removed it, but never changed the password < 1281850359 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What did you use to make the log, and why does it have a malicious script? < 1281850360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: umm ... just edit it out with an editor? < 1281850370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't sed? < 1281850381 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, good idea, ty < 1281850384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: >_< < 1281850391 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you still up? < 1281850395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: That was an incredible bout of stupidity, no matter who did that. < 1281850403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have no reason to go to bed right now. < 1281850434 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's your fault you said "a safe, warm place" < 1281850443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281850453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise cares not for the cycles of your daystar! < 1281850466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need blackout blinds. < 1281850488 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1281850509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: FTW? < 1281850537 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://snyfarvu.farmingdale.edu/~goldsj6/paranoia.htm < 1281850548 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Icosahedral RPG: The mana cost of a spell consists of numbers and values (w,u,b,r,g,X), all of which are commutative (although spells themself are not commutative). < 1281850553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what about it? < 1281850561 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The level of a spell is calculated from the mana cost by setting w=u=b=r=g=1 and X=0. < 1281850573 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misremembered where public_html was and thought it went missing, is all < 1281850586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure you want to reveal your SURNAME OMG < 1281850598 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes coppro  < 1281850601 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the FIRST LETTER OF YOUR NAME < 1281850607 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what might be your middle name < 1281850609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 6 < 1281850614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(middle initial, that is) < 1281850619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*middle initial < 1281850639 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I go to FARMINGDALE < 1281850648 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that was totally not based on Magic < 1281850653 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mana can be constructed from prime manas like positive integers can be constructed from prime numbers. There are five prime manas: w,u,b,r,g. < 1281850671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: AND .EDU < 1281850678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: And SNYFARVU < 1281850693 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example: If a mana cost of a spell is (2u+3) then the level is 5, and if a mana cost is (Xrrb+6r) then the level is 6. < 1281850695 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to slow it down to a crawl once and get other people in trouble < 1281850724 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mana you have can be general-use or assigned to a class. < 1281850749 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you play Magic? < 1281850760 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to calculate a spell added, subtracted, multiplied, divided, raised to a power of, another spell. < 1281850776 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zzo38 < 1281850785 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1281850785 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, zzo38, easy mistake to make < 1281850802 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keys are like right next to each other < 1281850808 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716] < 1281850818 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can play Magic: the Gathering. However this system is different (although somewhat based on it). < 1281850835 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i too have a zzo38 key on my keyboard < 1281850841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's next to the any key) < 1281850883 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, I noticed. my brain hurts already (btw wubrg was the obvious giveaway) < 1281851024 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes. < 1281851040 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: How can you have a zzo38 key on your keyboard (or why)? That doesn't even make sense? < 1281851047 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro pronounces ZPM as Zed PM < 1281851049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why doesn't it? < 1281851060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I press it and it inserts "zzo38". < 1281851064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Right next to the Any key. < 1281851066 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: duh. Meredith is totally right on that one. < 1281851069 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It just doesn't make sense...... < 1281851080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Why not? < 1281851100 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some on-screen keyboards have a key to insert ".com" but that doesn't make sense either, at least it makes slightly more sense than one that inserts "zzo38" < 1281851109 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it is a macro key. If it is a macro key, it can make sense. < 1281851114 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a joke < 1281851117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, it's a bona-fide zzo38 key. < 1281851119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: No it's not :< < 1281851128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay < 1281851131 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is SLIGHTLY a joke < 1281851132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLIGHTLY < 1281851133 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What kind of keyboard do you have, anyways? Does it have a F13 key? < 1281851151 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And F14 and F15 and F16 key? < 1281851165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, in fact it has up to F34. < 1281851170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has three numlocks. < 1281851179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a BIT of a STRANGE keyboard. < 1281851222 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes, I suppose it is a bit strange........ < 1281851246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has a "Detonate Nuclear Missiles" button. < 1281851249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right next to the Q button. < 1281851266 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: To the left or to the right? Or in a different direction? < 1281851275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the right. < 1281851286 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q, Detonate Nuclear Missiles, W, E, K, T, Y, I, U, O, P < 1281851299 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the rare qwekty layout -- ibm made this in late 70s, early 80s < 1281851304 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an adapter plugged in < 1281851317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281851332 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt IBM ever built such a keyboard with everything like that you mention, you must have built it yourself, if in fact it actually exists at all < 1281851423 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Icosahedral RPG, the method for paying mana cost of a spell can be formally mathematically described as follows (note: you hardly ever need this long formal dsecription, you can simplify it a lot): After selecting the non-negative integer in place of X, rewrite the mana cost as a sum of manas. < 1281851470 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, you can multiply any of the terms by any manas. And then remove manas from the class manas that are the same as each term. < 1281851565 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The mana cost of a spell can be described as terms consisting of non-negative integers multiplied by manas, where X is a variable.) < 1281851643 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??Is this sensible to you?? < 1281851679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to use the word "mana" in several unrelated contexts < 1281851681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it hard to follow < 1281851682 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as sensible as anything else I here in here < 1281851684 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the point of the formal definition? < 1281851692 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1281851708 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks!) < 1281851760 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :signs that I might want to leave a channel: there has been 0 activity in 60 hours (not even joins/parts) < 1281851776 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1281851791 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The word "mana" is not used in several unrelated contexts in this game. It is used as a mathematical quantity (which is commutative), or as a mana that you have in a class or general-use, which is also a instance of one of these mathematical quantities. < 1281851792 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there other people physically in there? < 1281851804 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can a quantity be commutative? < 1281851827 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That means that (wu)=(uw) for example (where that means (w) multiplied by (u)) < 1281851840 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so multiplication of mana is commutative, you mean < 1281851845 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes. < 1281851856 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiplication of spells is *not* commutative, however. < 1281851904 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1281851911 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A mana being commutative is actually (as far as I can tell) implied by the definition of a "mana" given above) < 1281851914 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281851951 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: saying that a qantity is commutative is not only meaningless but confusing < 1281851957 0 :CakeProphet!~adam@h207.1.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281851971 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: How is it confusing? < 1281851971 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only operations can have commutativity < 1281851986 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there can be multiple operations on a quantity, some of which are commutative and some of which aren't < 1281851992 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, would you say numbers are commutative? < 1281852090 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Normal numbers (including complex numbers) are commutative, but hypercomplex numbers are not commutative. < 1281852114 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Meta-complex numbers are commutative, however.) < 1281852119 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what about 2^3 not being equal to 3^2 < 1281852121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, multiplication is commutative over complex numbers, but not over quaternions < 1281852131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a property of multiplication, not of the numbers themselves < 1281852140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like addition is commutative over both, and exponentiation is commutative over neither < 1281852200 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1281852203 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, that is how I abbreviate it, it should be assumed multiplication is meant (and that if you specify it just saying "these numbers are commutative", that addition is also commutative) < 1281852209 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardly! < 1281852218 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: That is because exponent is not commutative < 1281852225 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1281852234 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't abbreviate it < 1281852238 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot say that "numbers" are commutative because they aren't < 1281852260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless your numbers are functions themselves < 1281852273 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't misuse terminology if you're attempting to make a formal definition especially < 1281852273 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make an esolang that does that < 1281852283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can easily imagine (2 3 4) being valid in a lisp-like esolang, or 3 `2` 4 in a Haskell-like esolang < 1281852302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's common to use functions to represent numbers in Unlambda and Underlambda < 1281852314 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, right < 1281852357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they tend to be unary functions rather than binary, you can always uncurry < 1281852396 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how this can apply to the AW computer < 1281852589 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no < 1281852603 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to? < 1281852610 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281852611 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a typo < 1281852682 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was a typo? < 1281852698 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes his main ingredient in some OTC sleeping pills + hormone < 1281852708 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pills :( < 1281852901 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Would you prefer a suppository? < 1281852920 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... thank you < 1281852933 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have made my life better < 1281852981 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you should join blognomic < 1281852985 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next dynasty will be fun < 1281853025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t 3 `2` 4 < 1281853057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell "Boo!" < 1281853058 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Boo!" < 1281853101 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell 3 `2` 4 < 1281853112 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would that work/ < 1281853120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1281853138 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main = print $ 3 `2` 4 < 1281853140 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't < 1281853204 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just wondering if it was a parse error (in which case you cannot do that in haskell) or a type error (in which case you could fix it with a Num instance for functions) < 1281853212 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas it's a parse error < 1281853238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t 2 3 4 < 1281853270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, EgoBot seems not to know < 1281853273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t 2 (3 :: Int) (4 :: Int) < 1281853274 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 (3 :: Int) (4 :: Int) :: (Num (Int -> Int -> t)) => t < 1281853292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to my ghci, 2 3 4 :: (Num (t1 -> t2 -> t), Num t1, Num t2) => t < 1281853297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type was too ambiguous i guess < 1281853374 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: New quit message. Entering 2006 in style. < 1281853390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess EgoBot is set with too strict options to give an answer or something < 1281853420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if :t gives an error/warning, we'll never know < 1281853426 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: have you never played BN? < 1281853480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghci didn't give an error or warning when I tried < 1281853530 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but EgoBot may be using -wall or something? < 1281853554 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/haskell < 1281853554 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: cannot access interps/haskell: No such file or directory < 1281853562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1281853562 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1281853586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/ | fmt -w100 < 1281853586 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l Makefile adjust axo befunge bf_txtgen bfjoust boof c-intercal cat cfunge clc-intercal < 1281853605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1281853611 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/ | fmt -w500 < 1281853613 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l Makefile adjust axo befunge bf_txtgen bfjoust boof c-intercal cat cfunge clc-intercal dimensifuck egobch egobf fukyorbrane gcccomp gforth_quit ghc glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl < 1281853642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/ghc | fmt -w500 < 1281853643 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runghc < 1281853664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh fmt -w500 interps/ghc/runghc < 1281853664 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash if ! ghc -O2 -e "`cat $1`" 2> /dev/null then < 1281853672 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No, but I have been Ambassador to it. < 1281853705 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281853728 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat interps/ghc/runghc | fmt -w500 < 1281853728 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash if ! ghc -O2 -e "`cat $1`" 2> /dev/null then < 1281853732 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've touched BN once < 1281853736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1281853823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually that means it uses no options besides -O2 < 1281855792 0 :myndzi!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281855890 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1281856291 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enforcing hibernation npw < 1281856293 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1281856381 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not working < 1281856383 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not hibernating < 1281856462 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's official < 1281856477 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm addicted to watching the hours tick down to my BN vicotyr < 1281856479 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*victory < 1281856630 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281857017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you have BN victory on a /timer/? < 1281857046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders, what exploit is this? < 1281857558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: He must cackle as it goes down. < 1281857954 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it should actually be pretty easily visible < 1281857964 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least logically deducible < 1281857967 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even a scam < 1281857978 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles for pikhq < 1281857995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281858050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how you trigger either VC < 1281858100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 2.4.1, fwiw, although I can see how you might have proposals designed to trigger that < 1281858106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would explain the timer < 1281858168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have -6 treason, and a method of pumping someone else up to UV would be considered a scam < 1281858178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I find it hard to square the ruleset with your actoins < 1281858179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*actions < 1281858181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks proposals < 1281858205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mantra of the unwashed" is clearly an attempt to trigger 2.4.1, btw < 1281858622 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually not < 1281858878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281858889 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless you're planning to bypass the ruleset entirely, you'll need to trigger it somehow < 1281858920 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly envisions the concept of a nomic crank < 1281858957 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone who insists that their scam _does_ work despite all evidence to the contrary < 1281859199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1281859200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1281859316 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281859543 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is bored < 1281859581 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Play chess and be not bored, then? < 1281859590 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1281859593 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else, just rest? < 1281859602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ < 1281861370 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281862518 0 :cheater109!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater00 < 1281862545 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheateur < 1281862549 0 :cheateur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater99 < 1281863997 0 :Guest69640!~droid@183.178.85.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281864241 0 :Guest69640!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281865590 0 :cheater109!~cheater@p5B216980.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281865779 0 :cheater109!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater00 < 1281865804 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281865826 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater99 < 1281865870 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater00 < 1281865885 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cheater1 < 1281866010 0 :Flonk!~chatzilla@188-22-112-136.adsl.highway.telekom.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1281866012 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning < 1281866046 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-0-218.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281866401 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1281866431 0 :comex!comex@c-98-210-154-193.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281866597 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281868180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281869074 0 :sshc_!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1281869123 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1281870062 0 :distant_figure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1281870855 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1281871054 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281871148 0 :derdon!~quassel@p5B3E62AE.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281872118 0 :FireyFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1281872527 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1281873564 0 :distant_figure!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1281873989 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281874391 0 :Slereah!~jews@ANantes-259-1-136-110.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1281876443 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1281877155 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently monkey brains can neuroplastically adapt to brain machine interfaces < 1281877175 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say this is cool as fuck < 1281877507 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, damn my stupid PEOPLE BRAIN that can't. < 1281878834 0 :distant_figure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1281879383 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281879943 0 :distant_figure!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1281881177 0 :alise!~alise@91.104.239.187 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281882674 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281886716 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1281887810 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281889150 0 :tombom_!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1281889221 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281890686 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281891349 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281891389 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1281891743 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: coppro: FWIW, I'll probably be starting another Nethack game in a little while. < 1281891892 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On termcast or elsewhere? < 1281891952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, got any suggestions for elsewhere? < 1281891971 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone suggested something called NEU? < 1281891971 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to use NAO; it's ridiculously slow on this part of the globe. < 1281892000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm looking for it on http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Public_server... < 1281892013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But I don't really see a huge problem with termcast. I much prefer the zero-latency gameplay. < 1281892035 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that's a point < 1281892038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me what's wrong with termcast, apart from the ridiculous possibility that I modified the code to cheat, which is patently untrue as I do terribly? :P < 1281892064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with termcast, every keypress happens instantly, and it gets sent off to the server in the background < 1281892073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with servers you have to wait for the roundtrip < 1281892113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find anything that looks like an NEU on that public server list. < 1281892229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Is there a way to get Nethack to colour the status line somehow? < 1281892237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, give a red background to things like low HP or blindness, etc. < 1281892264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Inspired by this screenshot of UnNetHack: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090621122957/nethack/images/b/b4/UnNetHack.png) < 1281892285 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, there's a patch for that, that I think NAO uses < 1281892306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1281892315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a patch for that. NetHack. From the Dev Team. www.nethack.org < 1281892346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, come on, laugh. < 1281892362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got it, but didn't feel a need to laugh in-channel < 1281892367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1281892400 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Statuscolors < 1281892447 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/HPmon is what NAO uses < 1281892499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Actually, maybe not having it coloured will encourage me to be more careful. < 1281892502 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may watch some SGU < 1281892506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think more, etc. < 1281892519 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternatively, explorer.exe can crash < 1281892528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha, Windows user < 1281892530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*user. < 1281892620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, I'm going to start the game in a second. < 1281892644 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, VLC's refusing to not be full-screened again < 1281892657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See! More reason to watch me play Nethack instead. :P < 1281892764 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should mention termcast to my UNIX professor < 1281892779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Unix < 1281892813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's trademarked as UNIX but that's because of retardedness; the erroneous "UNIX" spelling comes from the fact that "Unix" was set in small caps in the original manuals.) < 1281892862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a source for this? (I want to be sure that you're not pranking me) < 1281892875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1281892883 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be the World's Worst Prank. < 1281892897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unix (officially trademarked as UNIX, sometimes also written as Unix with small caps)" --Wikipedia < 1281892902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you want me to dig out an old Unix paper too?! < 1281892910 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's sufficient < 1281892912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281892919 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*checks Wikipedia article's history* < 1281892927 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus christ. < 1281892952 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1281892959 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OK, so I'm being a little pedantic; old Unix guys have called it UNIX in media such as email before. < 1281892964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's probably just to emulate the small caps. < 1281892974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, a better justification is that Unix is definitely /valid/, and dammit, UNIX looks ugly. < 1281893004 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me when you're on termcast < 1281893018 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1281893026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Nonono wait < 1281893031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I need you to be pedantic in turn < 1281893042 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1281893042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My window is titled "Nethack" with a lowercase h, please beat me with a rusty stick < 1281893059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my defence, "NetHack" looks SO ugly. < 1281893076 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not beating you with anything, perv! < 1281893078 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1281893093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there /anything/ you cannot turn sexual? < 1281893123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that's already sexual! < 1281893138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Okay, going on air in three... two... one... < 1281893151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you receive the test signal?! < 1281893152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281893159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching < 1281893163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ^ also (in case you're silly enough to want to watch) < 1281893213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that reminds me < 1281893224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What's the name of that nice bot that spoils you about all the monsters? < 1281893230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ais mentioned yesterday < 1281893241 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PinoBot < 1281893249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1281893254 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1281893275 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1281893278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Lookat dat < 1281893279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281893281 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about vaults? < 1281893291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know /of/ them; I don't know how I can get out of them. < 1281893301 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can drop your gold < 1281893304 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And go with the guard < 1281893306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or < 1281893308 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1281893318 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to keep it, say Croesus (I think) < 1281893320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it matter who I tell the Guard I am? < 1281893323 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme check < 1281893327 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Apparently. < 1281893332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now /that/ was cheating. :P < 1281893342 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be trapped < 1281893350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What if I give him another name? < 1281893359 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to drop the gold and leave < 1281893366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I leave? < 1281893367 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't come back through the trap < 1281893385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What if I kill the guard? < 1281893397 0 :Cavilador!~ircap@139.129.91.184.cfl.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281893401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you're strong enough. I don't know < 1281893407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Or, better idea: what if I pick up the gold again now, and resume following him? :D < 1281893417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281893425 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a try. < 1281893436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it could be a terminally bad idea < 1281893437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So be it, rogue!" Oh dear. < 1281893452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That was a quick death. < 1281893461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: In future, follow guards. < 1281893476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Okay, reconnecting. < 1281893481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's hope this game lasts slightly longer. < 1281893490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Connected? < 1281893496 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1281893497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281893556 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Man, damn my stupid PEOPLE BRAIN that can't. < 1281893571 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would assume if monkey brains can, it's quite likely human brains can too < 1281893574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No point going to the vault, is there? < 1281893581 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What vault? < 1281893590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I heard vaulty noises, says Nethack. < 1281893602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're stronger or have teleportitis < 1281893613 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if anyone follows you if you teleport out < 1281893613 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281893613 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody dead-end corridor. < 1281893623 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS it a dead end? < 1281893626 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's just the slight problem of getting the testing past the ethical board... < 1281893631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I've searched ~60 times now. < 1281893636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd assume so. < 1281893642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any context? :P < 1281893651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Unless you want me to search more? XD < 1281893656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:59:15 apparently monkey brains can neuroplastically adapt to brain machine interfaces < 1281893657 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1281893659 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:59:35 I say this is cool as fuck < 1281893688 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your pet can be diagonal from you when you go down or up < 1281893703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Okay. I was being cautious. < 1281893711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shop! < 1281893717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY LIQUOR < 1281893723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can steal from shops, can't you? < 1281893727 0 :Cavilador!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1281893734 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... safest to do so with your pet < 1281893738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, that. < 1281893746 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Are shopkeepers difficult to kill? < 1281893752 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For you, right now, yes < 1281893779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: More to the point, do I actually need any potions at this point...? < 1281893796 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281893802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, I'll skip it. < 1281893861 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How peculiar! < 1281893862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can kick down doors, you know < 1281893864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose there is a hidden door. < 1281893868 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Wait, locked doors? < 1281893870 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281893870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1281893884 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh < 1281893888 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been playing without opening them at all < 1281893912 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1281893919 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiting < 1281893921 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, look at HP. < 1281893928 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, good idea. < 1281893931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the fox, wasn't it? < 1281893932 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, note that grid bugs can't bite on a diagonal < 1281893939 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281893950 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, whatever. < 1281893955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have any way to get the HP back. < 1281893970 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Resting helps I think < 1281893992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1281894068 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eep < 1281894070 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1281894079 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NOW :P < 1281894082 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks dangerous, but I forget exactly what it is < 1281894082 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The B < 1281894090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I killed it instantly, so there we go. < 1281894092 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And possibly the o < 1281894095 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1281894101 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat zombie corpses < 1281894112 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOoh < 1281894116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay altar < 1281894118 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop stuff on it < 1281894121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281894151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why do NetHack pets all have ADHD? < 1281894163 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a NetHack pet! < 1281894175 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did I ever say that? < 1281894185 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but still >.> < 1281894239 0 :nooga!~nooga@77-45-52-193.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1281894241 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What does zapping do, again? < 1281894247 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses a wand < 1281894252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, grid bugs. < 1281894255 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1281894258 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1281894271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dear. < 1281894272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Werewolves. < 1281894298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only kidding! < 1281894303 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, good < 1281894314 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was clever. < 1281894317 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you.. < 1281894322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought maybe it was inactive! < 1281894329 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1281894335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating eye, hidihi. < 1281894337 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't strike the floating eye in melee < 1281894341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1281894345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why?) < 1281894350 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will paralize you < 1281894357 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some pathetic weak monster will kill you < 1281894369 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill it from a distance and eat the corpse < 1281894388 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daggers any good for throwing? < 1281894390 0 :Flonk_!~chatzilla@93-82-43-148.adsl.highway.telekom.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1281894394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281894396 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was a stealth reference to a "man, I hate my stupid monkey blood!" Penny Arcade comic, actually. < 1281894398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a try. < 1281894405 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also worth eating at some point < 1281894418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It left no corpse. < 1281894429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning to eat the corpse. < 1281894430 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1281894447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conveys telepathy, what's that all about? < 1281894464 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're blind and have intrinsic telepathy, you can sense monsters all around the level < 1281894472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shitload of fountains on this level. < 1281894491 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEE! < 1281894495 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1281894500 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like kernel panic! < 1281894505 0 :Flonk_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Flonk < 1281894506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, Felix! < 1281894525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poisonous. < 1281894554 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./kernel/exit.c: panic("Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"); < 1281894577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ring mail's better than what I have, right? < 1281894582 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea, sorry < 1281894583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... but it's heavy and maybe cursed. < 1281894585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll pass. < 1281894590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I know it's worse than chain mail. < 1281894665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them mines < 1281894669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I see no other way. < 1281894684 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the corpse? < 1281894698 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1281894701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Perhaps. < 1281894710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Or not. < 1281894721 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Under the ring mail? < 1281894737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I tell? < 1281894742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picking it up? < 1281894749 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, doesn't look it, but you could try going down < 1281894769 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Force bolt < 1281894769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dumb idea. < 1281894770 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1281894776 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1281894779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Looks like there's only one way out of this situation! < 1281894783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO THE MINES < 1281894801 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1281894801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I have no long-range weapons. < 1281894806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha;lp < 1281894839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better. < 1281894847 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sink? < 1281894851 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sinks are good for IDing rings < 1281894856 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a page on that < 1281894857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I had rings. < 1281894875 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for breaking your legs when you're levitating < 1281894881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"good" < 1281894893 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, if you're levitating against your will... < 1281894905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A ring < 1281894912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How convenient. < 1281894920 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was about to say the exat same thing < 1281894937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that splashing? < 1281894942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, IDing rings at a sink usually means losing the ring < 1281894945 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the sink < 1281894951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait ... then why ID them? < 1281894965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you know what they are in the future < 1281894974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I forget? Does the game remember for me? < 1281894987 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if it asks you to Call < 1281894990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loot! < 1281895013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Worth doing? < 1281895021 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know < 1281895023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a try. < 1281895027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And be more useful :P < 1281895029 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a junk object < 1281895035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fortune cookie? < 1281895049 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's food, not sure that it counts as junk :/ < 1281895072 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there may be otehr ways to ID rings < 1281895101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All rings may be identified by dropping them into sinks. The sink will show an effect depending on the type of ring. Rings other than searching and slow digestion will be lost with 95% probability; therefore it is a good idea to do this test only if you have another ring of the same type as the one being tested, or if you know that the ring is cursed, or you don't want it for some other reason. < 1281895111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1281895123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but lying carries a small alignment penalty for lawfuls" < 1281895127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why did Felix yowl? < 1281895136 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, crud < 1281895142 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know why, but it can't be good < 1281895154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can #chat with your cat to get an idea of how it is feeling: < 1281895154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will yowl if it is caught in a trap, confused, fleeing, or tameness is getting low. < 1281895217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Does Felix hate me :( < 1281895224 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet < 1281895246 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's still tame < 1281895262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any catrearing tips? < 1281895309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: He wanted food. < 1281895314 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix < 1281895326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...can you feed pets non-pet food? < 1281895336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they're hungry, I think < 1281895341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: :'( < 1281895344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I starved it < 1281895346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Him < 1281895346 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her < 1281895348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever < 1281895382 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry that I couldn't help < 1281895387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's alright < 1281895388 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My fault < 1281895406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tame almost anything, right? < 1281895407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically. < 1281895415 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, not sure < 1281895421 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some untamable things < 1281895425 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if someone had PESTILENCE as a pet... < 1281895436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can tame the Wizard of Yendor < 1281895441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1281895442 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1281895448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1281895449 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOu may have broken a mirror < 1281895450 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or two < 1281895451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks it some more < 1281895467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Not potions? < 1281895474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or potions, hopefully < 1281895480 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be mistaken < 1281895496 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, statue < 1281895500 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, an iguana would have made a nice pet. < 1281895504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes ... several. Why? < 1281895513 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, don't know < 1281895530 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may contain stuff? Not particularly useful for you < 1281895542 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the |? < 1281895553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gravestone < 1281895556 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1281895557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281895558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :headstone < 1281895559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1281895564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :encarved Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice < 1281895573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you loot statues ... < 1281895576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just #loot? < 1281895582 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never thought of that < 1281895589 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of just breaking it open < 1281895590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they contain stuff, then? < 1281895592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1281895593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're not a wizard < 1281895602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't hurt to try, can it? < 1281895618 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there's one thing Nethack has taught me, it's this: it can ALWAYS hurt to try. < 1281895625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The contents of the statue can be retrieved by either smashing it apart, or by using a stone to flesh spell to convert it to a living being, whereupon the contents will become the monster's inventory." < 1281895642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ow. My leg. < 1281895675 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have autopickup on? < 1281895681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: For a few items; why? < 1281895684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked up the rocks on purpose. < 1281895686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a bit silly. < 1281895687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1281895704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$1004, wow. < 1281895722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that coins are great junk objects < 1281895727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281895733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't drop just one coin, though, can you? < 1281895738 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you an < 1281895739 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can < 1281895741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1281895762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ehm ... do dogs like candy bars? < 1281895764 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, not sure? < 1281895765 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281895768 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with D, I think < 1281895772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, dogs and candy bars? < 1281895773 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue < 1281895803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to drop a coin, I think it's D1$ < 1281895807 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1281895824 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taming wild dogs is usually easy, because all sizes of dog are considered domestic animals. Throwing a meaty treat, a safe fresh meat-based corpse, or processed human food at a hostile or peaceful dog will tame it. Throwing any other comestible at a dog will at least render it peaceful, with the exception of cream pies and eggs (which will break on impact). < 1281895840 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1281895843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doggy pal. < 1281895860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you name your pet again...? < 1281895862 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's N for pets? < 1281895865 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure < 1281895915 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call < 1281895933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281895934 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1281895982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Throne room. < 1281895983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1281896024 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please don't kill your second pet < 1281896033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'll try not to! < 1281896039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yipping is apparently A-OK. < 1281896086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helms are good! < 1281896161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Is it, uh, wise to enter throne rooms? < 1281896168 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281896194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Throne rooms contain an assortment of monsters, a throne, and a chest. There is a guaranteed throne room in Fort Ludios, in the Castle and in Vlad's tower. < 1281896194 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Throne_room#Throne_rooms gives me no reason to think that they're peaceful < 1281896226 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they are, I guess < 1281896226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But the reward IS powerful, I get a throne. < 1281896235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they aren't attacking me ;) < 1281896261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Throne#Sitting_on_a_throne < 1281896269 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These seem like rather good outcomes. Maybe. < 1281896276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibility to genocide. < 1281896285 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get to make a wish. Identify items. < 1281896297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some negative outcomes < 1281896303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1281896308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's preparations you can take before sitting. < 1281896311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OTOH, fighting these guys seems like a nice way to train. < 1281896317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: /This/ early in the game? < 1281896328 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly, you can drop all your gold to the next square. < 1281896329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I can always flee. RAAAAMPAAAAAGE! < 1281896335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because one of the outcomes is the loss of all of it. < 1281896353 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you not dead? < 1281896360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Because I'm SO HARDCORE. < 1281896374 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is an aklys? < 1281896390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An aklys, known as a thonged club when unidentified, is a kind of weapon commonly used by gnomes and is hence frequent junk in the Gnomish Mines. It is lighter than the standard club at only 15 weight units compared to the club’s 30. Also unlike the standard club, the aklys is made of iron rather than wood. It is relatively worthless, having a base cost of only 4 zorkmids. The aklys does 1d6 damage (average of 3.5) to small creatures, and 1d3 damage (ave < 1281896390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rage of 2) to large creatures, identical with the standard club. < 1281896393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Junk. < 1281896420 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, note HP < 1281896427 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I'm resting for a little bit. < 1281896476 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: This is FUN! < 1281896494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh. < 1281896508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Good thing there's so many monsters here I can just flail wildly! < 1281896512 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You gotta see this. :P < 1281896523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can open it on one screen; how? < 1281896531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: telnet termcast.org < 1281896533 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't promise I'll be watching very closely, though. < 1281896535 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever one's "alise". < 1281896556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heeeeere we gooooooooo < 1281896572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, I'm not blind any more. < 1281896574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anymore. < 1281896576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, you appear to have eaten a bugbear; I guess I picked the right one. < 1281896611 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The throne room is a lot easier with stealth; you don't wake up everything in there. < 1281896626 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, a pet might still go and awaken monsters, though. < 1281896656 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise starved his first pet < 1281896664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's praying time soon. < 1281896676 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, is there some sort of a trick going on, or how do the line-drawing characters work on this UTF-8 term? < 1281896686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's the Unicode ones, I think. < 1281896690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using DECgraphics. < 1281896705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Although, wait, no. < 1281896712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: As I recall, most terminals automatically rejiggle those to work. < 1281896719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: For instance, elinks manages them fine. < 1281896720 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those, yes, I guess. < 1281896727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBMgraphics is a bit more fiddlier to set up. < 1281896739 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you get "top of integral sign" fountains and all.) < 1281896757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How am I not satiated yet?! < 1281896782 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is going the way of Felix, but isn't aware of it yet < 1281896795 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hm? < 1281896802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Starving, you mean? < 1281896803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^joke < 1281896805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281896807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281896815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've eaten something like 10 corpses in the past few hundred turns. < 1281896815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or more. < 1281896829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Would you look at that? < 1281896835 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1281896839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just vanquished an entire throne room without going very low on HP once! Yay. < 1281896850 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: So, drop mah moneys, right? < 1281896865 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I don't think there's too much else to do, though I might just forget something. < 1281896884 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, no effect. < 1281896884 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was useless. < 1281896897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Not useless; I've got a lot of fightin' 'sperience doing that. < 1281896898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also having it disappear on the first #sit is unlucky. < 1281896912 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If your Luck is strictly positive, you are blinded for 250 to 349 (more) turns; otherwise, your inventory is randomly cursed (as for a "malignant aura"). < 1281896912 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1281896922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :349 turns, ha < 1281896928 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might there be something in the chest? < 1281896930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that's a 1/13 chance though :D < 1281896934 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I already looted the chest < 1281896935 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a gem < 1281896936 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right: there's that chest next to the throne, it's a reasonably safe place to stick the money in before sitting. < 1281896953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write in the ground with the gem < 1281896959 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and hold onto the lizard corpse < 1281896961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh, eye. < 1281896961 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat < 1281896965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Too late. < 1281896968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Scooby ate it. < 1281896984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating eyes, my favourite kind of floating eye. < 1281897029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: !!! < 1281897031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Food poisoning. < 1281897033 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now would be a good time to pray < 1281897034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fucked. < 1281897042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not. < 1281897044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hooray for religion. < 1281897048 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get the flating eye corpse < 1281897052 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None? < 1281897053 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1281897077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stunned. Lovely. < 1281897082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that do, again? < 1281897090 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walk around semi-randomly I think < 1281897094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1281897096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be careful near your dog < 1281897107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I know! I'll pray! < 1281897163 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Food poisoning is completely preventable (in NetHack) by avoiding eating old corpses." < 1281897177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitch! < 1281897179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1281897188 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they look so fucking tasty < 1281897189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I did was brutally attack her. < 1281897248 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, note P < 1281897249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP < 1281897251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281897264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I not prepared for this level, do you think? :/ < 1281897279 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1281897284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OK; what now? < 1281897287 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1281897301 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask in #nethack < 1281897316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello; I've got myself into a stupid situation because I'm retarded. Halp." < 1281897439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh! Elbereth! < 1281897467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Won't that work? < 1281897474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, it might < 1281897475 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do mummys count as humanoid? :P < 1281897486 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean A Elbereth? < 1281897493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1281897500 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think #nethack realises that the mummy is actively attacking me. < 1281897504 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Elbereth Gilthoniel! < 1281897537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: do *you* see anywhere I can move without dying next turn? http://i.imgur.com/dLUSe.png < 1281897550 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Elbereth time. < 1281897576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it didn't. < 1281897577 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, Elbereth is good. Have a wand you can use? < 1281897580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: No. < 1281897584 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Elberethed, the mummy fleed, < 1281897586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :came back, kille dme. < 1281897589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*killed me < 1281897596 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in situations like that, you just keep Elberething < 1281897606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you moved! < 1281897606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*killed me. < 1281897608 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you will wear the old ones out < 1281897609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did not. < 1281897628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go team elf mummy. Go team new-game. < 1281897637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA. < 1281897642 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281897644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack picked dwarven Valkyrie for me. < 1281897647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally said yes. < 1281897650 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281897650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the chances? < 1281897658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, same time, same bat-channel. < 1281897660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we go again ... < 1281897664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: (telnet termcast.org) < 1281897701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Chain mail on dlvl 1 < 1281897702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*score* < 1281897719 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1281897749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably cursed, but who cares? It's chain mail! :p < 1281897756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah axen < 1281897766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Items can be -enhanced < 1281897802 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: chaimail has high AC to start with, so a negative enchantment is likely to be a net win < 1281897820 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1281897825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had -1 cursed chain mail for the majority of my game yesterday where I got to Sokoban. < 1281897827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't regret it one bit. < 1281897869 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I don't think a harmful chain mail can be generated < 1281897911 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+0 chain mail < 1281897912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :score! < 1281897944 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a surprisingly active dlvl 1. < 1281897968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh ... Felix? < 1281897980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He got transported to the vault, didn't he ... < 1281897996 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a vault? < 1281898000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1281898018 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Felix is down here. < 1281898041 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, smoky potion < 1281898154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281898158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need more Exp < 1281898238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Sgeo: rate this idea: 200s until monster, kill, repeat < 1281898249 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the next 22 hours to pass unremarkably < 1281898254 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: bad < 1281898256 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll starve < 1281898283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1281898290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why? for the ****? < 1281898295 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'll pull a Felix? < 1281898298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ***** **** ******* * < 1281898305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :***, not * < 1281898307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1281898309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**, not * < 1281898312 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1281898312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as * denotes a correction. < 1281898341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Q: What's better than a blindfold? < 1281898343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: Two blindfolds! < 1281898357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: RIP Felix < 1281898360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"RIP Felix" is now a meme. < 1281898371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kill poor Felix! Welcome to experience level 3.--More-- < 1281898376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack: Kill pet, gain experience < 1281898381 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: what? < 1281898398 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How'd mypu dp that? < 1281898405 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killing a pet is a horrible idea < 1281898419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yep, it was an accident < 1281898427 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: viciously attacked a gas spore < 1281898435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without previously considering the implications of this < 1281898447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an open door here. You see here a kitten corpse named Felix. < 1281898452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: If I eat it, can I become Chaotic? < 1281898456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1281898461 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear the rumble of distant thunder? < 1281898470 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating it is probably not a good idea < 1281898493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yep! <3 < 1281898498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THUNDER IS LIKE THE GREATEST < 1281898500 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: becoming chaotic in nethack will make the game unwinnable < 1281898510 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, congratulations, you suffered -15 alignment and -1 luck < 1281898515 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAAAY < 1281898516 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your god hates you now < 1281898527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: To be fair, I killed my pony pet in the game I got to Sokoban. < 1281898534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/And/ possibly killed Felix; either that or let him die. < 1281898547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I killed an anonymous housecat who left no corpse, but I'm not sure if it was Felix; he was a pushover.) < 1281898553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And Felix was not a pushover that game.) < 1281898575 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating your pet gives you a horribly annoying intrinsic that is almost impossible to remove < 1281898582 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even any other cat < 1281898591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You know, calling me "he" in a random channel will just confuse people. :P < 1281898616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q - a kitten corpse named Felix. < 1281898640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you want to write in the dust here? RIP Felix (also Elbereth) < 1281898695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me, or is elbereth the biggest deus ex machina ever found in a roguelike? < 1281898785 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be compiled out < 1281898818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gulp* < 1281898824 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tame floating eyes? < 1281898836 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be far better to kill and eat it < 1281898845 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With WHAT? < 1281898852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have nothing to kill it with, apart from melee. < 1281898857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /do/ have food rations to tame it with. < 1281898877 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ How dangerous is zapping an unknown wand at something that's not likely to kill you? < 1281898877 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : depends on if it's polymorph and the RNG hates you or not < 1281899137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY WILL THEY NOT ANSWER MY IMPORTANT FLOATING EYE TAMING QUESTIONS < 1281899147 0 :sshc_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sshc < 1281899215 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess would be: it doesn't eat, so you can't tame it. < 1281899230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without magick, that is. < 1281899235 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1281899259 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am having a hard time visualizing a floating eye snacking on a food ration, anyway. < 1281899273 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :D < 1281899297 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Should I throw weapons and armor at it, zap my unIDed want, or do the much more fun thing of throwing food at it? < 1281899304 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already thrown potions at it so it's a bit drugged up. < 1281899327 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you can engrave-ID your wand < 1281899332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES BUT THAT IS BORING. < 1281899338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Okay that is another option added to the poll of you. < 1281899372 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually try to lure them into some place where you can throw an item at it, wait for it to step aside, pick it up, and repeat ad nauseam. But they're not very good at following, and move slowly, so that's *very* boring. < 1281899389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am optimising for fun here, seeing as I am only on dlvl 3. < 1281899390 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually be a wizard < 1281899390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW PICK < 1281899413 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't there some rocks on earlier levels? < 1281899428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD WHY ARE YOU ALL SO BORING < 1281899431 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to throw food at it. < 1281899434 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you want fun, throw a food item at it to see what happens; in the interests of scientif... < 1281899435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1281899441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The food ration misses the floating eye. < 1281899446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How close do I have to be? < 1281899452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is being right next to it safe as long as I don't attack? < 1281899462 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can stand right next to it. < 1281899464 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be, I th... WAIT < 1281899473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM WAITING!!!! < 1281899481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, tell me if I'm wrong, but if you're blind, the floating eye can't paralize you < 1281899491 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be true, yes. < 1281899499 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'e had a blindfold? < 1281899504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two. < 1281899505 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 of them! < 1281899510 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No way to identify BUC though < 1281899516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know ... floating eyes don't scare me that much ... < 1281899521 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I think it's a gazey sort of thing. < 1281899537 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't scare you because you haven't been bitten to death by a grid bug. < 1281899542 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The food rations are "missing" the eye, so there you go. < 1281899543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: XD < 1281899562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The wand misses the floating eye." < 1281899572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a wand of STRIKING. < 1281899585 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281899587 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh: if a floating eye itself is blind, it also can't paralyze you. < 1281899590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How do I blind my fold? < 1281899599 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a)pply it, I think < 1281899602 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: P I think < 1281899606 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you may be blind for a while if it's ursed < 1281899621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I melee the floating eye now? < 1281899668 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281899676 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What would you do to a floating eye? < 1281899677 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: marilith: the gnats of the twentieth century. it is biscuitish, keeps good indefinitely, is a cat by talking gently to it. < 1281899681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now how do I take it off?! < 1281899683 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1281899683 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack* pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1281899692 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: R < 1281899699 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1281899699 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1281899707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Floating eye corpse; you must be so happy. < 1281899708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1281899709 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1281899711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am < 1281899712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: isn't topicality good?! < 1281899712 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: blindfold: the hitchhiker's guide to fantasyland, by terry pratchett) a constellation of the very solemn venerable i-hsiu to our base for a great snake was gone. the sword to be untainted! beware the jubjub bird, and held aloft the sacred icon. the other. teeth and claws fear what they saw; but with the king, orcrist: the hades. poseidon is associated in many ways with horses and thus is the property of fortune cookies, < 1281899713 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bo < 1281899721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I feel a strange mental acuity. < 1281899722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, congratulations < 1281899734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the hitchhiker's guide to fantasyland, by terry pratchett" < 1281899737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put the blindfold back on... oh, and you may want to name that one < 1281899742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd read that. :p < 1281899742 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you know it's not cursed < 1281899743 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why put it back on? < 1281899748 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see < 1281899764 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noncursed, but whatever < 1281899764 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he eat the corpse? < 1281899767 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281899774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I can see monsters. < 1281899781 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, then you get telepathy < 1281899783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1281899786 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about exploration? < 1281899792 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't show you all monsters though < 1281899795 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ones with minds < 1281899816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now can I take it off? :P < 1281899836 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tame humanoids? < 1281899845 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't going to search that area? < 1281899846 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll also be feeling around for the cockatrice corpses and other nice things, if you walk around blindfolded. < 1281899856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, yes, as soon as I get a hobbit for a pet. < 1281899866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "nice" < 1281899874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yeah, can I feed hobbits? >_> < 1281899890 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bilbo, bilbo, bilbo BAGGINS! < 1281899896 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greatest little hobbit of them all! < 1281899905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up, Spock. < 1281900014 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, you can only tame the domesticated animals (dogs, cats, horses) by throwing food. < 1281900028 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281900104 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was smart, alise < 1281900112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: They both missed me and I got darts. < 1281900115 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it was. < 1281900152 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1281900155 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm < 1281900170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flags: poison resistance, acid resistance, sleep resistance, petrification resistance, nolimbs, acid, mindless, amorphous, breathless, nohead, noeyes, nohands, neuter, wander < 1281900170 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a bad idea < 1281900173 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough for me! < 1281900178 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well ... it's not POISONOUS ... >_> < 1281900319 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Where are THOSE guys from? < 1281900359 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPLAIN THAT, SCIENCE < 1281900375 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L?!?!?!? < 1281900380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ????? < 1281900383 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, take a look at this < 1281900389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1281900398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE The L is the corner of a square :P < 1281900403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/THE // < 1281900405 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1281900417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1281900419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1281900422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, they're powerful. < 1281900436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there isn't a white one. < 1281900440 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1281900441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: where are those ueBBs? < 1281900453 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someplace you haven't found yet, apparently < 1281900464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1281900494 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd suggest searching the room with a fountain or the room east of that < 1281900516 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1281900529 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't lie, it's an align penalty < 1281900539 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't die please < 1281900541 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is attacking an align penalty? < 1281900551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, you have to admit I'm not exactly doing well this game >.> < 1281900553 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "you die" penalty, probably < 1281900560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if I pray! < 1281900585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... >_> <_< < 1281900598 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, get in here and convince alise to surrender < 1281900609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT THE MONEY < 1281900621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when do you even USE the money? < 1281900631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHUT UP < 1281900733 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Don't say alise is considering it < 1281900737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1281900737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1281900755 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281900764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that you're only asking about the really stupid stuff I consider >__> < 1281900835 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: How about I start another game which I actually take seriously? < 1281900859 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could live in this one < 1281900865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psssht < 1281900910 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have safe blindfold and telepathy < 1281900957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snif < 1281900958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sniff < 1281900967 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's gold in that diagonal, don't know if it's safe < 1281900977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ... inaccessible. < 1281901006 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe dig for it at some point < 1281901025 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you know it's there < 1281901061 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the corridor should disappear when you leav < 1281901082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got bored of dlvl 4. < 1281901086 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281901091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523! < 1281901093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523 < 1281901096 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing Nethack like a moron! < 1281901100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I killed Felix. < 1281901107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to talk alise out of vault-guard-related suicide < 1281901109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I tried to tame a floating eye. < 1281901113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: they can't eat. < 1281901122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I considered fighting a vault guard. < 1281901165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is silently facepalming < 1281901201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you didn't /actually/ fight the vault guard < 1281901209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's all on termcast, if you want to have a laugh < 1281901216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT ANOTHER FLOATING EYE < 1281901220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hint: if you can leave the vault anyway, claim to be called "Croesus" and they'll go away; if you can't, you need the guard to lead you out) < 1281901223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that. < 1281901225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't leave anyway. < 1281901231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you drop just the amount you stole? < 1281901234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281901235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it have to be all your cash? < 1281901239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, everything < 1281901244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how they get all their money < 1281901248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281901261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you get two guards to fight each other? That would be amazing. < 1281901277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how you get two guards at the same time; revgeno, maybe < 1281901286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could probably get them to fight each other via conflict < 1281901306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you watching? < 1281901310 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281901310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oracle time < 1281901316 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1281901321 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't eat the fungus < 1281901323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not with very high levels of concentration < 1281901333 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1281901334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch out for that golem < 1281901334 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281901337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What now? < 1281901341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why are you meleeing floating eyes? < 1281901345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: there's a monster in the bottom-left corner < 1281901349 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was a mistake < 1281901351 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that golem turned to flee < 1281901353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1281901355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i hurt it < 1281901365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finish it before it heals up < 1281901396 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wjat just hap < 1281901397 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy sh! < 1281901399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Mordor orc < 1281901401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Threw a knife < 1281901443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing I have telepathy. < 1281901454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat @ that < 1281901459 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cursed < 1281901473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 ya? < 1281901487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sort of arrow < 1281901488 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Japanese arrow < 1281901501 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to wiki that < 1281901546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't go team a! < 1281901558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was easy. < 1281901565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HP CHeck < 1281901573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :55; so? < 1281901581 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't you just at 70? < 1281901590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: is the hpmon patch in your version? < 1281901593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, whistle. Good for pets < 1281901601 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Equip these combat boots? < 1281901604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's buggy (not in a bad way, just display glitches) but useful < 1281901607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the options screen < 1281901614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: statuscolours is a non-buggy, expanded hpmon ftr < 1281901615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no < 1281901617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archlinux never patches packages < 1281901619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless to fix breakage < 1281901626 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few pre-patched versions in the repos < 1281901631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they have a bunch of useless crap too < 1281901654 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it Arch that installed NetHack suid root despite common sense? < 1281901661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so < 1281901664 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that Gentoo? < 1281901667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1281901672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch packages are very vanilla < 1281901675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically just configure, make, install < 1281901683 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gentoo like fucking things up with their useflags. < 1281901768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ANOTHER floating eye corpse! < 1281901775 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I saw < 1281901792 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you ECSTATIC? < 1281901801 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You already have telepathy < 1281901805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a tengu < 1281901808 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or not) < 1281901816 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double-telepathy. < 1281901822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CANNIBAL YAY < 1281901827 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is now a good time to pray. < 1281901830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tainted < 1281901832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray! < 1281901833 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, pray or die < 1281901845 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281901848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I /did/ kill Felix. < 1281901849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check inventory < 1281901856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you die in around 30 turns < 1281901861 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what isn't he happy with? < 1281901862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1281901863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink the unIDed potions, they're your best chance < 1281901865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need something in my inventory < 1281901867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523_ < 1281901868 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all of them?! < 1281901871 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, only two < 1281901876 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1281901879 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, first try as well < 1281901881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, mysterious t potion < 1281901887 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been full healing < 1281901895 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or extra? < 1281901896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281901901 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"completely healed" < 1281901903 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1281901906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: If only I actually needed it, rather than got myself into a stupid situation. < 1281901911 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I doubt extra is powerful enough < 1281901938 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a wand of striking; are those any good? < 1281901950 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're force bolt in wand form < 1281901951 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1281901964 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much good for combat, but they destroy a bunch of inanimate objects < 1281901966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like doors and boulders < 1281901971 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And statues < 1281902000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exercise! < 1281902015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GCK!* < 1281902027 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-cursed extra healing does cure sickness: case POT_EXTRA_HEALING: .. healup(.. /* arg 3: */ !otmp->cursed ..); 3 is curesick. < 1281902039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: incidentally, i completely wiped out a throne room before < 1281902043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with like exp 3 < 1281902044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a dog < 1281902046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe last game < 1281902054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took ages, but it was fun < 1281902058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the throne disappeared on the first go :P < 1281902075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, raiding /this/ room without the ability to pray or a pet... wish me luck < 1281902078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :potion.c:323, immediately above dodrink(): /* "Quaffing is like drinking, except you spill more." -- Terry Pratchett */ < 1281902112 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note rapidly-lowering HP < 1281902144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be concerned until it went down to 60 or so < 1281902154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point, you have to wonder why it went that low, and how quickly < 1281902165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aiee! < 1281902169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281902172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0-turn stun < 1281902199 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281902206 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one batty level. < 1281902206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is level with Sokoban entrance < 1281902213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meep. < 1281902229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1281902231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She stole the unIDed one. < 1281902255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh shit < 1281902257 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this D&D spell? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/options/Good_Insane_Spell.s < 1281902266 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot whether you eat blue jellies < 1281902269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, cold res < 1281902274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm a valkyrie < 1281902275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, valk < 1281902278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but i'm also stunned! < 1281902291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least you're in a corridor < 1281902313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being stunned means any direction key you press counts as a random direction < 1281902319 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Wrong corridor, sorry < 1281902328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it helps to be in a corridor or somewhere like that to increase the chance of getting what you want < 1281902337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's weighted, isn't it? < 1281902338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, that rock mole seems to have dug the corridor much wider < 1281902344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not AFAIK for sun < 1281902346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stun < 1281902353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's confusion where it's weighted to the direction you pressed < 1281902381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1281902400 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281902405 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need scimitar, lance, 7 ya < 1281902406 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, at some point, engrave with the gems < 1281902438 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What spell level should the spell that I wrote be belonged to? < 1281902449 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L-E-V-E-L < 1281902462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: axe, spear, lance < 1281902464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which sucks the most? < 1281902475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the axe has pretty much no legit use < 1281902481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spear is only useful when thrown < 1281902483 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The word "level" is even a palindrome, if that cares at all........?) < 1281902487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lance? < 1281902490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the lance is a polearm < 1281902496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can (a)pply it to hit something at range 2 < 1281902505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: basically i need to drop shit < 1281902509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :combat boots any good? < 1281902511 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count as melee against floating eyes? < 1281902512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop it anyway, it's rather heavy < 1281902518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and combat boots are randomized-appearance < 1281902518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncursed +3 small shield, +0 chain mail, +0 orcish helm, combat boots < 1281902520 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION drops combat boots < 1281902525 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-12-22.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281902526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could be excellent, but also could be cursed fumbling or whatever < 1281902526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still too much < 1281902534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i need the orcish helm? < 1281902534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally, you should BCU them, then wear them if not cursed < 1281902538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, you don't < 1281902540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only 1 AC anyway < 1281902564 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you imagine if a seach revealed a non-diagonal route? < 1281902565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, don't really worry about being able to move diagonally < 1281902568 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, helm = helmet < 1281902569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realised < 1281902569 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that there was another way there? < 1281902570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1281902579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to be at half your carry cap to do it < 1281902589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, fine < 1281902590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns something new < 1281902619 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you seem to stockpile more weapons than everyone else... < 1281902626 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281902638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because I end up in sticky situations with a lot of monsters more than anyone else < 1281902697 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1281902699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and extra weapons, other than ammo, help how in that situation? < 1281902710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more shit to throw < 1281902717 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like any of these spells? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/options/Good_Insane_Spell.s http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/options/Patamagician.c http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/options/Minimize_Spell.f http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/dnd/options/Self_Sacrifice.s < 1281902719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I suppose < 1281902731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've got to points where i just start disrobing and chucking armour < 1281902734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people would collect, say, 12 daggers and multithrow them, then throw scimitars and arrows and axes one at a time < 1281902734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't terribly effective. < 1281902738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it isn't < 1281902739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multithrow? < 1281902742 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you just mean throw a lot? < 1281902750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a stack of many dagers < 1281902754 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can throw more than one in a turn < 1281902756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dargers < 1281902759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, sokoban time < 1281902760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with practice < 1281902764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, this isn't the level i faced before < 1281902764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*daggers < 1281902768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the harder variant? < 1281902772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, two variants for each sokoban < 1281902780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one probably is slightly harder, but still easy < 1281902787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy if you're good at Sokoban. < 1281902788 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This looks easier to me, actually < 1281902798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, the bottom-right area's a bit harder < 1281902806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually sure which move to make first :-) < 1281902810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: move the boulder to your right one square right, then all the way to the left < 1281902826 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, wand < 1281902834 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do slime molds preserve? < 1281902838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281902840 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should, I think < 1281902847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a customisable-name item, "slime mold" is just the default < 1281902853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1281902855 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-12-22.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281902859 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave those three until you've done everything else < 1281902860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just looking for food < 1281902863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1281902868 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can they ever do it in Nethack that the Sokoban levels will sometimes be mirrored or flipped? Or only two variants? < 1281902871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, "fruit" is the general name < 1281902879 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slime mold is quite nice though < 1281902884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some forks like UnNetHack will mirror or rotate Sokoban levels < 1281902889 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unpatched NetHack doesn't < 1281902896 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is unnethack any good? < 1281902907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike many of its gameplay changes, but the interface is much better < 1281902909 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what happens if you change the "slime mold" name to the same name as another kind of item? < 1281902910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather harder than vanilla < 1281902926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nothing special if it's not food; if it is, the name of the fruit is changed so you can tell the two apart < 1281902933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to what? < 1281902942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"candied cockatrice corpse", or whatever < 1281902958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :". You die..." --suggestion for slime mold name < 1281902969 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been done < 1281902978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's from a page of them < 1281902995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct, btw < 1281903002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the lone one at the bottom < 1281903023 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the goblin < 1281903027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it'll be trapped behind the boulder < 1281903030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, too late now < 1281903031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know where it is < 1281903036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just move the boulder, and throw stuff at it if you get stuck < 1281903045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :READ ME = earth, btw < 1281903061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably want to name it now < 1281903093 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I think is Nethack needs is make the program treat player characters and non player characters all as the same. Also, no restriction race/class combination. And, also, in the class selection a "none" option, and in the race selection "enter any one" option, and a "Bishop's Curse" scroll you can move only diagonally, and a Forth interpreter built-in, and more ideas..... < 1281903103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if i get the difficult level 2 variant again i'm just going to kill myself in a comical way, okay? :P < 1281903119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Everything's Forth with you, isn't it? < 1281903131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1281903133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still doable < 1281903135 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the left one up < 1281903153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now just put that one into the pits < 1281903168 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry; I am pretty much a thinko machine < 1281903170 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule of Sokoban you seem to be missing: if you /can/ move a boulder to the pits safely without disturbing any of the others, do so < 1281903174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, can i crawl out of that pit onto the _> < 1281903174 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinko? < 1281903179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, i didn't miss that < 1281903181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep, but it only works on the bottom level < 1281903183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just didn't realise i could move thato ne in >_> < 1281903184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: like a typo < 1281903191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: any penalties? < 1281903204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for that < 1281903210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from damage for falling into a pit < 1281903217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work on the other levels, though < 1281903218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay the easy variant! (I presume) < 1281903220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, compared to the other one < 1281903242 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Not everything is Forth with me all the time, I just think it should be added, and then various things can be rewritten in Forth, but not all features < 1281903243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll walk you through the solution if you like < 1281903251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lemme guess: push this one until i can move around it < 1281903255 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go and knock the first ones in < 1281903256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the boulder to your left to make the top-left line of 2 into a line of 3 < 1281903264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, left 4 spaces, then up 1 < 1281903266 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth : zzo38 :: Smalltalk : Sgeo < 1281903274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1281903277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :burdened < 1281903287 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OK < 1281903287 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sokoban 1 is a great place to stash your stuff, btw < 1281903294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to access, and relatively empty of monsters < 1281903300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can put your stuff under a boulder if you like < 1281903304 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'll drop combat boots, but what weapons are the crappest? < 1281903315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want to lighten my load a little < 1281903326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ya as you don't have a launcher, the knife because it does pitiful damage, the axe because it's rubbish < 1281903335 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the scimitar is heavy compared to its minimal use for throwing < 1281903341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the lance is more useful but also heavy < 1281903349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use capital D to multidrop < 1281903353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281903354 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1281903364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go down here, yeah? < 1281903367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the boulder immediately below you up < 1281903374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1281903381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one 1 square below you < 1281903382 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one just below me? < 1281903384 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHIT < 1281903388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not up < 1281903390 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pressed the key by mistake < 1281903393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to move around < 1281903396 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1281903398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame my keyboard, for once. < 1281903401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, none of those 4 move now without cheating < 1281903404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: solvable? < 1281903404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably have to break one < 1281903410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is breaking one cheating :P < 1281903412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheating? < 1281903414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's only -1 luck < 1281903417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281903420 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should break the bottom-left one < 1281903420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just break it downwards? < 1281903423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a wand of striking < 1281903427 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diagonally < 1281903428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one? < 1281903430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one above) < 1281903436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that diagonal1 < 1281903443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want to only break one boulder < 1281903446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so break it from there < 1281903447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this diagonal? < 1281903449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(striking doesn't bounce, btw) < 1281903463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, move the leftmose boulder up < 1281903464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'm at a loss < 1281903465 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*leftmost < 1281903471 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again? < 1281903472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :further < 1281903476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as it goes < 1281903486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then move the centre boulder of those 5 right < 1281903486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here? < 1281903488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, as far as it goes < 1281903499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1281903501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boulder in column 4 moves < 1281903517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without disturbing the others < 1281903526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, just noticed < 1281903534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can do the two in column 5, then the two in column 3 < 1281903556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leave the two in column 1 for now < 1281903571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, you push the boulders from the room before < 1281903573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281903585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is remarkably easier < 1281903585 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, luck hit gone < 1281903591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? that was quick < 1281903596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn 4800 is a turn that restores luck < 1281903597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any more things i can show on my status bar, btw? < 1281903597 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write any comment of the D&D spell, yet? < 1281903601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's any turn divisible by 600 < 1281903610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: showexp is the only thing you could turn on < 1281903611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: nope, ais523 is busy walking me through nethack sokoban :P < 1281903617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, that sounds quite useful actually < 1281903618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shows how close you are to the next level < 1281903619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it? < 1281903622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not massively < 1281903637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's lead to some fun instadeaths due to high level players not noticing they were deathly sick < 1281903643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to showexp pushing it off the end of their status bar < 1281903644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281903655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the lower one in your current room left < 1281903656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ButterMuffin (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 29568 points, killed by an invisible stalker < 1281903658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then down one space < 1281903661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the INTERNET! < 1281903684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, those two in the right room < 1281903689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push them into the left room, then back < 1281903693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one at a time < 1281903702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever < 1281903719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that lone boulder on the third row in the top-left room < 1281903720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I can't believe this is only turn 4978 < 1281903724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push it into the top-right room < 1281903728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, couldn't i crawl out of the rightmost bit to go to the door? XD < 1281903730 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point < 1281903752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean < 1281903754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY SHIT < 1281903757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear in mind that Sokoban traps can't be escaped < 1281903759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move back one square < 1281903766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can fight them one at a time < 1281903775 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conga Line of Death < 1281903782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poisoned, not fatal < 1281903791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: don't tell me you're watching too :D < 1281903793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an angry god, it's probably not worth trying to eat them < 1281903799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1281903801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, lucky first time < 1281903806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :str dropped to 16, but you have poison res now < 1281903806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The killer bee corpse healed the killer bee corpse. < 1281903819 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1281903822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although anything can blecch < 1281903822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1281903823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have telepathy. < 1281903825 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't your fault, just random chance < 1281903827 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I am now < 1281903837 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the one NE of you to the pits < 1281903849 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1281903849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down two, left one, ... < 1281903851 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the one E of you < 1281903855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one < 1281903861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's right < 1281903873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one blocking the entrance to the northeast room moves next < 1281903876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push it right hten back left < 1281903885 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281903891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you still have five left over, even though you broke one < 1281903902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat the bat, btw < 1281903908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the zombies < 1281903911 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor the elf zombies < 1281903922 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281903935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat the naga hatchling < 1281903944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1281903948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1281903949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats < 1281903953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no don't < 1281903955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in combat < 1281903959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical < 1281903960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I'm going to tame it. < 1281903963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1281903974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has 70+ hp and it's a kitten :-P < 1281903979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kittens are dangerous < 1281903982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something wrong with kittens? < 1281903984 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that dangerous < 1281903990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK < 1281903991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281903995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why you aren't just going upstairs < 1281903999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP PLAYING WITH THE GIANT BAT CORPSE < 1281904000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: resting for HP < 1281904001 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regening HP? < 1281904006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, but you're only down 10 < 1281904011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but < 1281904011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't hurt < 1281904011 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was down 30 < 1281904014 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going for low turns < 1281904014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll heal as you solve the next puzzle < 1281904031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well done < 1281904032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say, kick the ring so you could pick it up later < 1281904032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ... < 1281904049 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What character class is that? < 1281904052 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typical way to rescue non-fragile items from Sokoban holes < 1281904053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Valkyrie < 1281904054 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and valk < 1281904061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god DAMN it. < 1281904072 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wuss < 1281904077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1281904077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elbereth won't help against the wand < 1281904086 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back < 1281904092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, they killed each other < 1281904097 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firslty < 1281904098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this level is easy to mess up earlyt < 1281904099 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened? < 1281904099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*firstly < 1281904103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll walk you through the first few moves < 1281904105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i just get rid of my kitten again? < 1281904108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i got onto sokoban < 1281904110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hilarity ensued < 1281904111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's around here somewhere, I expect < 1281904117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 42 hp < 1281904121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't think i oughta rest? < 1281904122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the boulder to your left left, then back right < 1281904125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you heal while moving < 1281904132 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and monsters spawn just as fast < 1281904137 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exciting adventures did death did I miss? < 1281904145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful not to let the kitten get trapped behind a boulder < 1281904148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No death so far! < 1281904149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1281904150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kick the food < 1281904153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can pick it up later < 1281904153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've already killed Felix this game < 1281904166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, this is the subtle bit < 1281904174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, you screwed it up < 1281904175 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I just fucked up. < 1281904176 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..not doing that < 1281904181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I saw a clear path X_X < 1281904181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still solvable < 1281904188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry for being useless :D < 1281904191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move to the top-right of this area without pushing any boulders < 1281904204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push that boulder down 3 < 1281904213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the boulder to your SW down 3 < 1281904225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down... < 1281904225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? there's one in the way < 1281904230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move above it < 1281904236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1281904237 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT FELIX < 1281904239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1281904239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to get your cat out of there < 1281904240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-Felix < 1281904242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a few turns < 1281904245 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then take the boulder to your W < 1281904246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281904247 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP non-Felix < 1281904247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1281904248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he teleported < 1281904250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW < 1281904254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he's just faster than you < 1281904254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jesus < 1281904256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail < 1281904257 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....?????????????/ < 1281904260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to move around it < 1281904262 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to add more class in NetHack: No-Class, Computer-Programmer, Alchemist, Pacifist, Evangelist, Slaves, Casino-Owner, Ninja, Serial-Killer, The-Boss, ...etc... < 1281904268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moved two squares a turn < 1281904268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS WHY I DON'T LIKE SOKOBAN < 1281904273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, just shatter that boulder < 1281904278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to solve the level < 1281904280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, zap it? < 1281904283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with striking < 1281904287 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to anyway, he blocked the down stairs < 1281904294 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, alise is unlucky < 1281904297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, you could bail out by jumping through the holes < 1281904300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: *shitty < 1281904306 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, fair enough < 1281904307 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And unlucky < 1281904313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boulder to your left, push it 1 left then lots right < 1281904313 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But assuming he wants to exit after solving < 1281904320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not now, the kitten's left < 1281904331 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the boulder N of that 1 down and right < 1281904332 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of anyone implemented these kind of classes I described, in NetHack or any other kind of roguelike games? < 1281904343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there are programmers in ZAPM, I think < 1281904371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Pacifist is a /conduct/ in NetHack < 1281904371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: now this one down, right? < 1281904376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go around and push it right < 1281904379 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll work < 1281904381 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, yes < 1281904400 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need to add a select for having no class? < 1281904420 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what would you do for starting equipment? < 1281904423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stats, etc? < 1281904429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in NetHack, those are all determined by class < 1281904431 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No stuff, all stats 3 < 1281904436 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Select average stats and no equipment < 1281904437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skill caps? < 1281904443 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No skills < 1281904449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, to start with < 1281904454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skill caps? < 1281904456 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, at all < 1281904457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the most topright one, push down? < 1281904458 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero cap < 1281904464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: topleft < 1281904466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1281904487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: topleft one left, down? < 1281904490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the one to the right of the one you just moved, push it left and down < 1281904512 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many more agonising levels of this are left? < 1281904514 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just out of curiosityl < 1281904516 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1281904516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*curiosity. < 1281904516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one after this < 1281904524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next boulder's a bit tricky, though < 1281904524 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blinks < 1281904524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP BEING INCONSISTENT :p < 1281904530 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What they need, is, all player characters and non-player-characters all are treated in same way and are represented using the same structures in the program, except that the player character is a special variable and the "control" field is set to "CHCTRL_MANUAL_PRIMARY" < 1281904533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I think sgeo was counting this one < 1281904540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move down 2 < 1281904544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push left 1 < 1281904550 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did alise go up a level since I last checked? < 1281904551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push the leftmost boulder up 1 < 1281904554 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, he did, ah < 1281904556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: this is the third < 1281904560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1281904574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the bottom boulder left 2 < 1281904580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(try not to let Felix II get trapped) < 1281904586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, the boulder above you down < 1281904591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1281904592 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think this idea, including "control" field, is workable in any roguelikes? < 1281904594 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1281904595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were right < 1281904601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leftmost up, then middle down < 1281904622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it might screw up game balance < 1281904624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay i get to have two cats < 1281904628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that great? < 1281904637 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be more monsters in that room < 1281904645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leftmost moves left, up, left, left, then to the pits < 1281904656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, Felix died of starvation before! < 1281904659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he yelped and then just sort of died < 1281904661 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have different constants for character controlling, such as: CHCTRL_MANUAL, CHCTRL_MANUAL_PRIMARY, CHCTRL_NOOP, CHCTRL_HOSTILE, CHCTRL_NEUTRAL, etc < 1281904662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a few games ago) < 1281904668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your pet starts complaining, chuck food at it < 1281904679 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I knew is that yelping is bad < 1281904682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what to do < 1281904688 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have FAILED FELIX! < 1281904695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ wat < 1281904701 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It won't mess up game balance if the rest of the game is designed around it to be not mess up game balance..... < 1281904704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you know there was a creature there once, but not what < 1281904710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the I marks the place < 1281904720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, Felix! < 1281904722 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally, they aren't still there by the time you get there < 1281904723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1281904725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: let felix kill it? < 1281904727 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, Felix 2: Electric Boogaloo! < 1281904733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you really want to keep the wizard alive for some reason? < 1281904739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just didn't want a fight :P < 1281904739 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ymore < 1281904739 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27 < Zepp> lol < 1281904739 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:27 < b4taylor> Paperclip? < 1281904739 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:28 < b4taylor> lol < 1281904744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can still displace it out the way < 1281904745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281904760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can move diagonally between monsters < 1281904764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or between a monster and boulder < 1281904764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in sokoban < 1281904768 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what? < 1281904768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch nymph? < 1281904772 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay nymphs < 1281904772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NYMPH! < 1281904776 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I kill it with the boulder < 1281904777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they steal items < 1281904778 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty please < 1281904781 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHCTRL_SPECIAL, CHCTRL_VERY_HOSTILE, CHCTRL_RANDOM, CHCTRL_COMPANION, and so on.... < 1281904782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably not, unless it's in a pit < 1281904783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1281904790 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lance? < 1281904792 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill it from a distance if you can < 1281904796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could work < 1281904805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch back to sowrd now < 1281904807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, sokoban is non-teleport < 1281904808 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1281904811 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a problem then < 1281904812 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lances don't work well at range 1 < 1281904824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nymphs cna't run easily in sokoban, though < 1281904830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just lance that I < 1281904831 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the nymph is blocking your boulder < 1281904832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably the numph < 1281904836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nymph < 1281904838 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you can lance through a boulder? < 1281904841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You won't hit anything if you can't see that spot. < 1281904842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, doesn't fit over the boulder < 1281904846 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't think so :-P < 1281904850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could throw stuff, but it'd hit the cat < 1281904853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the untame one) < 1281904856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay < 1281904859 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, The DevTeam didn't think of everything? < 1281904862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it frees this up? < 1281904863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, given that she can't fight back < 1281904868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a free kill < 1281904870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am i meant to feel pitiful? < 1281904878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pitying < 1281904880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1281904882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone hates nymphs < 1281904884 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you blind yourself so that you can telepathy-see it, you might be able to lance it < 1281904886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use the darts < 1281904888 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ha! < 1281904898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1281904899 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281904900 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think it's based on LOS, not line of telepathy < 1281904904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1281904909 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping that wouldn't work :-P < 1281904924 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, quiver < 1281904932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiver isn't necessary, it's just a timesaver < 1281904936 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, RL time, not gametime < 1281904936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiver? < 1281904945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use Q in order to set an item as your default to throw < 1281904952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can throw it with f without selecting the item each time < 1281904953 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You feel like an evil coward for using a poisoned weapon.--More-- < 1281904961 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, the penalty's meaningless < 1281904961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poison was deadly... < 1281904967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it did instakill the nymph < 1281904975 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, looking glass! < 1281904977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, mirror < 1281904981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the potion is /probably/ object detection, btw < 1281904982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: LOOKING GLASS DAMMIT < 1281904983 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that isn't guaranteed < 1281904990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you have called Alice's second book < 1281904991 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Identify it and it's a mirror, IIRC < 1281904992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Through the Mirror? < 1281904993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1281905009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the top boulder down < 1281905010 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: down, left < 1281905011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1281905012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then left < 1281905012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc? < 1281905013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281905014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281905018 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-195-216-222.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281905064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boulder in the centre < 1281905065 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An idea that can work in nearly any computer game with experience points, is this: After you reach maximum experience level, the experience points start working backwards instead. And then once it is back at minimum, it no longer changes during the rest of the game. This way you try not to waste too much time and stuff to complete the game < 1281905066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: now it's the 00 bit, isn't it? < 1281905068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no? < 1281905068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move it right two, then left 3 < 1281905073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then up 2 < 1281905081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then along the same path as the previous boulder < 1281905085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to run round at this point < 1281905094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wield a sword < 1281905104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edible? < 1281905108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but does damage < 1281905110 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally you don't care < 1281905112 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this idea about experience level, sensible for you? < 1281905120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes < 1281905123 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In terms of being a simile for life though, that's weird. < 1281905127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, due to the ease of reducing your own XP < 1281905147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Wesnoth's XP system; after you reach max level, you get fully healed whenever you would level up < 1281905153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also get a meaningless boost to max HP < 1281905159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"meaningless"? < 1281905168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, from 60 to 64 < 1281905174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why is Felix 2: Electric Boogaloo a bloodthirsty murderer? < 1281905178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because pets are like that < 1281905192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is two cats in sokoban insanity or AWESOME? < 1281905193 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, I don't like that.... I think for a computer game, my idea of experience points workable way!! < 1281905193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's up to you whether to gain felix 3, or just kill that cat < 1281905195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: both < 1281905196 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because he's preparing to turn on you when you next try to kill him < 1281905202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i can always tame it and then let it die :D < 1281905227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks to see if Breakin' had a second sequel < 1281905233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1281905241 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Electric Boogaloo" - Ollie & Jerry < 1281905241 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Radiotron" - Firefox < 1281905243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go with Radiotron < 1281905261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh, wererat < 1281905262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1281905265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let your pets kill it < 1281905270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they're for < 1281905280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to watch the action) < 1281905288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix 2 < 1281905291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what killed felix 2? < 1281905296 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid enough to attack a gnomish wizard < 1281905296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that doesn't show up on telepathy < 1281905300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm < 1281905303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows? < 1281905304 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill that rat yourself < 1281905314 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow @ those orcs < 1281905321 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-P: Yes it is weird but it is a computer game < 1281905325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just popcorn < 1281905331 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the wererat that's dangerous < 1281905333 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't you glad you didn't kill Felix 3 yet? < 1281905337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's following me < 1281905340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take off the blindfold < 1281905347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1281905354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there might be something hostile and mindless < 1281905362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to be cornered by a golem or whatever < 1281905367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run from this wererat, right? < 1281905369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281905373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or attack with lance if i must? < 1281905374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run upstairs before it catches you < 1281905381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sword's likely better < 1281905385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the lance doesn't work at range 1 < 1281905395 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, smoky potion < 1281905401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, amulet of reflection level < 1281905407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281905409 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is a pain, especially as two of the boulders are fake < 1281905410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, i am not pleased here < 1281905412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might me :P < 1281905423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although you can see them via telepathy) < 1281905423 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't telepathy reveal the fake boulders? < 1281905425 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fake? < 1281905430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: mimics pretending to be boulders < 1281905430 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, m? < 1281905431 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mimics < 1281905439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now we know where the fakes are, this is a bit easier < 1281905446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep blindfold for now? < 1281905451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: omg @ those monsters < 1281905452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd normally go without < 1281905456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have i gotten myself into < 1281905459 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and welcome to the boss at the end of Sokoban < 1281905459 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1281905460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: memorised the positoins? :P < 1281905464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep < 1281905468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOSS? that's not a boss, that's a ... I don't know what that is < 1281905472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a zoo < 1281905473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, I'll tame those two cats and dogs < 1281905475 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to help me fight it < 1281905478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea? < 1281905482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, once you get there < 1281905486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you have to solve the puzzle < 1281905489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, first boulder goes right < 1281905491 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that is the difficult bit < 1281905502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the first fake boulder < 1281905508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the left of that pair to your left < 1281905522 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don;t eat < 1281905524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can eat the corpse for a funny message < 1281905527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do anything bad < 1281905529 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you want to be miney for a while < 1281905538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I love the "mimicking a dwarf again" bit < 1281905539 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, go back to the original boulder < 1281905539 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it doesn't take turns? < 1281905545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i start actually believing that i'm a mime. < 1281905546 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not turns on which anything bad happens < 1281905548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mimicking a dwarf < 1281905560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if monsters turn up, you ambush them < 1281905561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push one right or one left? < 1281905564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1281905567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two squares < 1281905571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : push one right or one left? < 1281905572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1281905573 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah, awesome < 1281905576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1281905576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one to your right < 1281905576 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can onl be right < 1281905579 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*only < 1281905579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push it right two squares < 1281905582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then up four squares < 1281905594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this one meant to be near-impossible? < 1281905597 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, a lot of people can tame a dog and cat, tame somethings else. Tame a spider, or tame yourself, or the big monster with a lot of invisibility and so much poison that you are instantly dead if you touched it < 1281905598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then move the one to the right of the one you just pushed up one square < 1281905608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: well, I did it first time with only two mistakes, unspoilt < 1281905615 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, but you're good at sokoban < 1281905616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm awful < 1281905620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: the one to the right of the one you just moved, up two < 1281905629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: taming cats & dogs only takes a ration, though < 1281905636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm out of tripe < 1281905644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come ON < 1281905647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it can only go up one < 1281905647 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One person supposedly tamed Pestilence < 1281905649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ais523: < 1281905651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: more than one < 1281905652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, and ascended with it < 1281905659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you'll have to typo less often < 1281905661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh to the right. < 1281905665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smash the boulder you just moved < 1281905671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whilst not smashing any of the others < 1281905675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on a diagonal < 1281905678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, you smashed two < 1281905680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalm < 1281905684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a disgrace to humanity < 1281905685 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill the fake boulder, anyway < 1281905689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the one in the topleft corner < 1281905694 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes, of course, they are easy, ify ou can find ration, that is why you have to try for the other ways. Tame yourself instead, perhaps? < 1281905709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the boulder next to the centre room < 1281905712 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push it left two spaces < 1281905721 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281905721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick up the wand < 1281905724 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1281905729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(left /two/ spaces, that was one) < 1281905729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean THREE spaces < 1281905731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MR AIS523 < 1281905732 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes, three < 1281905735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't count < 1281905740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't type < 1281905745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push the boulder to your left two spaces < 1281905748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we both have skills and flaws here! < 1281905748 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it is two, this time) < 1281905760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the boulder above you up one < 1281905762 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ya can't push it 3 anyway < 1281905763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that one < 1281905764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one < 1281905770 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the boulder over the left up one < 1281905773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1281905780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the boulder below you down one first < 1281905788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :below here < 1281905789 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281905791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that one < 1281905796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now move the top-left up one < 1281905797 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an easy to move boulder < 1281905801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then back down one < 1281905810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's obvious, at least < 1281905818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now move the rightmost of the ones you can move down one < 1281905818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to lose felix 3, aren't I? < 1281905825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281905827 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: as long as it's on the same level, it won't untame < 1281905829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1281905832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one, down one < 1281905843 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, zoo noise < 1281905846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the top-left one up, right, rigtht < 1281905849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to the exit < 1281905866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next one is obvious < 1281905874 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike both of the level 4 sokobans < 1281905877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the one blocking the centre room up one < 1281905882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike [...] sokobans. < 1281905888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I like the solution to the BoH sokoban that doesn't block any boulders < 1281905893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: go back to the start < 1281905896 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281905896 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without moving boulers < 1281905898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boulders < 1281905899 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bag of holding or this better? < 1281905910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is better for survivability < 1281905910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as the prize < 1281905915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: the middle of the group of three, move it up < 1281905917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does bag of holding do? < 1281905922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :increases carry cap < 1281905924 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it allows you to carry more stuff < 1281905925 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things stored in it weigh less < 1281905926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1281905929 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281905929 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulet of reflection protects you from most wands < 1281905931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three interpretations of it < 1281905943 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: up more? < 1281905944 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulet of reflection is better if you don't have magic resistance I'd say < 1281905946 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the way < 1281905957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's better if you do have MR, too < 1281905958 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't store unID'd wands < 1281905960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that middle one < 1281905962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you have reflection and MR < 1281905962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the vertical three < 1281905963 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1281905965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then up all the way? < 1281905966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep, that works < 1281905970 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless cancel is IDed < 1281905985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't store BoHs in BoHs < 1281905990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1281905992 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais423: Sure, but there is some overlap there < 1281905993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they destroy spacetime? < 1281905993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this level doesn't have a BoH, so it's moot < 1281905995 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they explode < 1281905995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they explode < 1281905997 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And don't store bag of tricks in BoHs, I _think_ < 1281905998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais423 < 1281906000 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1281906001 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: correct < 1281906002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 lifetimes ago < 1281906005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yep, and don't store wands of cancellation < 1281906012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right up? < 1281906013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: that one < 1281906015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281906021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't trap felix 3 behind it < 1281906024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit felix < 1281906024 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unided wands are fine if you engrave-test them as something other than cancellation < 1281906024 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a couple of turns, it'll move < 1281906030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now < 1281906032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can push the boudler onto the I < 1281906042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just marks the last known location of an invisible monster < 1281906061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on the far left moves up 2, right 2 < 1281906075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't eat, IIRC < 1281906078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember why < 1281906080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i | imp | Spd: 12 | Small | Genocidable | Lvl: 3 | AC: 2 | MR: 20 | Difficulty: 4 | Align: -7 | Corpse wgt: 20 | Nutr: 10 | Atk: claw physical 1d4 | Flags: regen, stalk, wander, infravision, infravisible, imp, drain resistance < 1281906081 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have items that can't go in bags of holding highlighed in blue so I don't accidentally put them in < 1281906081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1281906084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drain resistence? < 1281906085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*resistance < 1281906088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no reason not to, it seems < 1281906094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, blecch nayway < 1281906095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why < 1281906096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that off < 1281906102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want to move in soko while confused < 1281906104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine stun in sokoban < 1281906104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281906108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, leftmost boulder, up two right two < 1281906118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to the exit < 1281906131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next, move the boulder in the centre room out through its left exit < 1281906132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with cats and picking shit up and then dropping it? < 1281906134 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to the exit < 1281906137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they're fetching for you < 1281906142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the behaviour was originally implemented for dogs < 1281906148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cats and dogs are functionally identical < 1281906163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdest cat ever, that's all i'll say < 1281906167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, not enough boulders left to complete the level < 1281906174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to you breaking three earlier on < 1281906175 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're joking < 1281906180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, how do i create them? < 1281906180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, all the remaining ones go in < 1281906185 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll need a scroll of earth < 1281906186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we can create some with the scroll of earth < 1281906189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but do that afterwards < 1281906191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, i have one < 1281906196 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have 2 < 1281906200 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1281906202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: down? < 1281906204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no < 1281906206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i do < 1281906207 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh < 1281906211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move the top of the two boulders over the right up < 1281906215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the centre room entrance < 1281906220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push it through the centre room < 1281906225 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and it will hurt a bit < 1281906229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which? < 1281906232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one closest to the entrance? < 1281906232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, either of the two on the top work < 1281906237 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And be unlucky < 1281906238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I was thinking of the one by the entrance < 1281906240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1281906240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281906248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push it through the centre room < 1281906251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then to the exit < 1281906263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that with all the boulders over the right < 1281906306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one goes left < 1281906308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281906329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one at the far right < 1281906331 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goes up 3 < 1281906340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281906364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, you need to move the near boulder down < 1281906365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: push down? < 1281906367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then push it from the right < 1281906369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281906370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggested that earlier! < 1281906374 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: q < 1281906390 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with the other one by the centre room < 1281906397 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1281906401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the right < 1281906405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, another cat < 1281906407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did that come from? < 1281906408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1281906409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Felix 4 time < 1281906410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't felix, or it'd be named < 1281906426 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time Cube1 < 1281906427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1281906455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should last a while. < 1281906468 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With alise as his owner? < 1281906469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1281906485 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, because he's not Felix < 1281906485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last boulder moves right < 1281906488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then is pushed from below < 1281906490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, because he's not fluffy < 1281906492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1281906500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, don't let your cats get trapped behind it < 1281906517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the zoo's awake < 1281906522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up 3 < 1281906524 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then from the right < 1281906525 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha? How can you tell? < 1281906529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: all the noises < 1281906540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a monster drinking potions, and a rock mole eating all the gold < 1281906543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many pets can i expect to get in the zoo to help me? < 1281906553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: the difficulty is aiming at them < 1281906554 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 4 rations, a clove of garlic, and a fortune cookie. < 1281906555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably 0 < 1281906558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1281906563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the other monsters in the way < 1281906566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 1 < 1281906569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281906571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth scroll thing < 1281906572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1281906573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, time to use a scroll of earth < 1281906573 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :myndzi < 1281906576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to move to an open space < 1281906577 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zap it? < 1281906581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281906583 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, couldn't he do it there? < 1281906584 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r)ead it < 1281906585 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just use it before if you had to use it anyway < 1281906589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he'd be trapped on the way back < 1281906590 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would've sped things up < 1281906590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ais523 said not to :P < 1281906595 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No he wouldn't I think < 1281906599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: that's the best square to use the scroll from < 1281906602 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's 1 surrounding < 1281906603 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, n/m < 1281906605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it? i picked well < 1281906605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but make sure your cats are well clear, you don't want to kill them < 1281906605 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not with felix next to you < 1281906614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1281906616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that clear enough? < 1281906616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281906617 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it? < 1281906618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a safe distance < 1281906621 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read a scroll of earth < 1281906632 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Told you it would hurt < 1281906638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1281906639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm resting HP < 1281906642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before fighting these guys < 1281906644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let your pets get near too < 1281906661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once that hole is filled, all hell breaks loose, pretty much < 1281906667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :errr < 1281906669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: all Nethack, all the time. < 1281906670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if one of the monsters has figured out how to open the door < 1281906671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i killed felix < 1281906675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1281906677 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: telnet termcast.org < 1281906677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check control-p < 1281906679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: listen in! < 1281906690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i dunno < 1281906692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems alive to me < 1281906699 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be, it's fighting something < 1281906709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop searching < 1281906710 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you searching < 1281906710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go fight < 1281906713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on full health < 1281906717 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Wow, live Nethack. < 1281906721 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yep < 1281906729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nethack.alt.org has that too though :P < 1281906734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trick here's to use your pets to avoid being cornered < 1281906740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts it on his phone < 1281906747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On your PHONE? < 1281906748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281906761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let the cat kill the ray < 1281906763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rat < 1281906765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, rock mole < 1281906773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just going to let them trickle in < 1281906775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than fighting them in one spot < 1281906778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conga line of death < 1281906781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God *damn* the terminal emulator sucks. < 1281906781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a typical strategy < 1281906786 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's, like, not VT100. < 1281906802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very fluffy sucks at hitting things < 1281906808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're in a corridor! it's right next to you! < 1281906811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you miss it?! < 1281906820 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those spaces are large enough for dragons < 1281906824 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And small enough for ants < 1281906832 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is the same size in nethack! < 1281906833 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the giant things! < 1281906848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can i just kill the bloody rock mole < 1281906852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually, can i go find fluffy? < 1281906855 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, if you like < 1281906857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either, in fact < 1281906865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't know how long fluffy will survive on its own < 1281906878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it ran < 1281906882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible cat < 1281906896 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god dammit < 1281906918 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly how unlucky is alise? < 1281906926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HOW DO I GET FELIX TO GO AHEAD OF ME < 1281906934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :displace him < 1281906938 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1281906941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Insufficiently. < 1281906945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should eat his cat. < 1281906949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281906952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move down one squaer < 1281906955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I killed a pet pony by rolling it into a pit once < 1281906958 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need moar luckstone < 1281906960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so felix can't get back behind you < 1281906963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*square < 1281906980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that door must be open < 1281906984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things are walking through it < 1281906986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just isn't in LOS yet) < 1281907002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the easiest boss ever < 1281907004 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid @ < 1281907010 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: with pets, it is pretty easy < 1281907014 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281907017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :felix even picked up gold for me < 1281907017 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people don't bother dragging pets through Sokoban, though < 1281907024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just let mine wonder < 1281907026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do all the fighting < 1281907027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked wonders < 1281907028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281907034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, dead wererat < 1281907036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine doing this on my own < 1281907039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's in the nature of cats to bite rats < 1281907041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can i go blind? < 1281907042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see the action < 1281907045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've done it on my own, but it wasn't awake at the time < 1281907046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :safely that is < 1281907046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure < 1281907062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only risk is that a mindless creature sneaks up behind you; if that happens, just take the blindfold back off < 1281907063 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You hear a wererat reading a scroll labeled HACKEM MUCHE. < 1281907063 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1281907064 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HACKEM MUCHE! < 1281907066 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a chance of c? < 1281907070 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the what what < 1281907073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder what that did < 1281907074 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :press \ < 1281907081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if you know what the label means < 1281907083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1281907083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281907088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing create monster, though < 1281907096 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only scroll monsters regularly read < 1281907100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHA GO INTO THE ARENA PITIFUL KITTENS < 1281907105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was a were-, though < 1281907112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so perhaps a @ at the time < 1281907115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, thus intelligent enough to read scrolls in @ form < 1281907130 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna tame the kittieeeees < 1281907131 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is there a chance of c here? < 1281907135 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of c? < 1281907136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1281907141 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try not to move while blind < 1281907142 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then alise shouldn't be blind right now < 1281907147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you step onto a c corpse and die instantly < 1281907148 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, yeah, don't move < 1281907153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cna tame that kitten < 1281907157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in range < 1281907163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will a fortune cookie work? < 1281907165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281907168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'll eat the fortune < 1281907189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i am aware that is a kitten < 1281907191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a dog < 1281907194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1281907199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So many cats. < 1281907205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this zoo's almost clear by now < 1281907206 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some fighter. < 1281907206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I hope to drain the d too. < 1281907212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the blindfold off; you can see in there /anyway/ < 1281907216 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you, water nymph! < 1281907216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop! < 1281907220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is /dangerous/ < 1281907220 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attack? < 1281907222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if she reads that thing... < 1281907226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attack? < 1281907228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, attack and hope to kill her first < 1281907236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, only had one hit left in her < 1281907237 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what scroll did she steal? < 1281907240 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth < 1281907240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: earth < 1281907240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth < 1281907243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EARTH < 1281907243 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ow < 1281907257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would have probably killed all the pets simultaneously, also trapped alise from going any further < 1281907267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are fog clouds dangerous? < 1281907272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fog clouds are pretty harmless to players, but potentially dangerous to pets < 1281907272 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ô_o what game are you talking about < 1281907274 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, I want to go in and try and tame the dog < 1281907275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill it yourself if you can < 1281907275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk: nethack < 1281907277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk: NetHack < 1281907279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk: telnet termcast.org if you want to see < 1281907290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so it's ok to go in now, right? < 1281907293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1281907295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leprechaun might rob me but i don't care < 1281907296 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see < 1281907298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zoo's almost empty < 1281907301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flonk: i'm alise obvs < 1281907320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you'll need to make multiple trips just to get more than two pets down the stairs < 1281907324 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I play NetHack later, will people here help me out? < 1281907327 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: probably < 1281907329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is garlic valuable? < 1281907330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sure < 1281907334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm little help :P < 1281907338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it scares vampires, so no < 1281907351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't tame dogs, just make them peaceful < 1281907355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I can spare a food ration. < 1281907369 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281907376 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Kitty! Wait, no it's not! You liar! < 1281907384 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: And Shaggy Dog isn't shaggy, either! < 1281907385 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Or a dog! < 1281907392 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're part of the Micky Mouse conspiracy! < 1281907394 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there a safe way to kill that leprechaun? < 1281907396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance? < 1281907399 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leprechaon is harmless < 1281907403 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chaun < 1281907406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: BUT MONEYS < 1281907406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the leprechaun can't teleport in Sokoban < 1281907407 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leprechaun can't teleport here < 1281907407 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't teleport < 1281907408 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you get a free kill < 1281907416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it steals, you just steal back < 1281907417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eating it gives you teleportitis < 1281907418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :safe to eat? < 1281907420 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it steals moneys, you'll get them back when you kill it < 1281907420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281907421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teleportitis < 1281907426 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you may or may not want < 1281907429 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will let you escape the vault < 1281907435 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NExt time you're there < 1281907439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, time to loot < 1281907446 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did he eat it? < 1281907452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a pet did < 1281907455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "he"? < 1281907458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :female character... < 1281907463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: check those rooms over the left < 1281907465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1281907466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have three cats < 1281907467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one should have an amulet < 1281907471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: one's probably just out of view < 1281907482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, what < 1281907485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what happened to the amulet? < 1281907488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third one < 1281907488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1281907489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1281907491 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf @ elbereth < 1281907491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monster must have spawned on it < 1281907491 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1281907495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281907497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are joking, right? < 1281907498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the amulet's generated on an elbereth < 1281907501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to stop things picking it up < 1281907502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1281907506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just did sokoban < 1281907507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for nothing? < 1281907507 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if a monster spawns on the square, anything can happen < 1281907513 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you find an amulet anywhere else? < 1281907514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the amulet's probably still around here somewhere < 1281907517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless something ate it < 1281907537 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the door wasn't open, though < 1281907546 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, it was < 1281907547 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1281907557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do amulets look like? < 1281907559 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1281907564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1281907569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check inventory < 1281907572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might have picked it up already < 1281907576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently not < 1281907580 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>< < 1281907581 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amulets sort to the top of the list < 1281907583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe one of my pets have it < 1281907589 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible < 1281907594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, pets don't respect Elbereth < 1281907595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than possible < 1281907597 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill them all obv < 1281907603 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, just wait for them to drop it < 1281907603 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what XD < 1281907608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats and dogs don't hang on to amulets < 1281907610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your pets have something ... KILL THEM!" < 1281907617 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, just see if they drop it < 1281907626 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the dog has it < 1281907631 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k, NVFAA doesn't have it < 1281907645 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1281907647 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1281907655 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must have been et < 1281907659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281907661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, what now? < 1281907665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just go through Sokoban for nothing? < 1281907670 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got lots of xp and food < 1281907671 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should the amulet have been? < 1281907679 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: amulet of reflection < 1281907680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: reflection or something < 1281907685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, but < 1281907686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1281907686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HATE < 1281907687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOKOBAN! < 1281907694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen that happen before < 1281907710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, you'll be better at sokoban in future < 1281907714 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there a way to shake my pets to make them drop stuff? :P < 1281907722 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: they can only hold one item < 1281907728 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every put has already picked something up < 1281907731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll drop it in time nayway < 1281907740 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i have to go all the way back up? < 1281907744 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's on those [? < 1281907748 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down < 1281907760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: that's the end of Sokoban, anyway < 1281907764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next stop, generally the Mines < 1281907771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down, yaeh < 1281907773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1281907777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they're safer with the amulet, which I still haven't figured out where it went < 1281907781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many pets do you think I'll have when i come out of sokoban? < 1281907790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how patient you are < 1281907814 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, depends on how filled with love for my pets i am < 1281907815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you brute < 1281907826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops watching < 1281907830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1281907842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I want to do something else now < 1281907846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how crazy < 1281907855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're on stop-me-doing-something-retarded duty >.> < 1281907856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you too < 1281907909 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone good at herding cats?! < 1281907931 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whistles < 1281907936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one < 1281907941 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aE < 1281907944 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just move a bit then blow it? < 1281907946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long does it last? < 1281907948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1281907949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many times < 1281907950 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's magic, it's awesome < 1281907954 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, not sure < 1281907960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i use it from an arbitrary distance? < 1281907966 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic, yes < 1281907970 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing about regular < 1281907985 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281907990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed a kobold by running < 1281907992 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might want to engrave-test the gem < 1281907992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you watching? < 1281907994 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't run < 1281907996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do you do that? < 1281908001 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E gem < 1281908007 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it writes in the dust, you learn nothing < 1281908012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sHI < 1281908012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't, it's valuable < 1281908016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elbereth, right? < 1281908020 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Green is valuable < 1281908031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1281908035 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#name call that gem < 1281908038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: green just engraved. < 1281908041 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281908048 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means it's not worthless glasss < 1281908055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it what? < 1281908057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valuable? < 1281908059 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :valuable green < 1281908079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know nothing about black now < 1281908083 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be valuable, or not < 1281908085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281908096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with violet < 1281908113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: NEVAR < 1281908159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think you should be looking for " < 1281908170 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i get the kitty < 1281908172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but where? < 1281908195 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sure those [ don't hide it? < 1281908215 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I check now, my pets could become untamed... < 1281908222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1281908224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long does it take? < 1281908228 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1281908374 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/DeathOnAStick < 1281908396 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 75 turns < 1281908402 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1281908440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: if i go onto the same level then back that buys me another 75 turns, right? < 1281908466 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took the first number from http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Tameness < 1281908467 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, there's a _ command < 1281908471 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably yes < 1281908474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: to do what? < 1281908481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit think before you move < 1281908492 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lets you move quickly (in terms of RL) < 1281908498 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc) < 1281908536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It wasn't there. < 1281908537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy? :P < 1281908543 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1281908548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is blind lulz < 1281908560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's your fault < 1281908560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffdf! < 1281908572 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should have seen the light, you should have blindfolded yourself < 1281908597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise what it was >_> < 1281908612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally, the gnomish wizard dies! < 1281908663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks something up quickly < 1281908669 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Where did the wererat go? < 1281908677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1281908788 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what happens if you see Medusa via telepathy < 1281908795 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _think_ it's nonfatal < 1281908800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd still rather you have the "reflect < 1281908826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Unfortunately it has been eaten. < 1281908894 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you have the mirror, right? < 1281908897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1281908927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, and you have the good blindfold < 1281908931 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be no problem < 1281908992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Felix 3 doesn't love me any more. < 1281909001 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the whistle magic? < 1281909007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I can tell. < 1281909037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the message? < 1281909042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wererat! Shit! < 1281909049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "You produce a high-pitched whistling noise." or words to that effect < 1281909055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing special. < 1281909063 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, that < 1281909069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a message for any whistle < 1281909072 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMULET < 1281909080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ONE OF THE MONSTERS MUST AHVE ESCAPED < 1281909083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HAVE < 1281909086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what are the messages? < 1281909087 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1281909091 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a random other amulet < 1281909101 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high whistling for tin < 1281909113 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high-pitched humming for cursed magic < 1281909127 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: pyramidal? < 1281909144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, you found the amulet? < 1281909150 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_an_ amulet < 1281909157 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know if it's reflection or not < 1281909160 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: don't know < 1281909168 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: see if a pet will move on it < 1281909204 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, do a non-cursed check < 1281909208 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not cursed, wear it < 1281909231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do i do that check all the way out here? < 1281909238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a wererat dropped it; some werecreature was in that fierce battle < 1281909246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, i suppose, could theoretically have escaped without me noticing < 1281909248 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hmm < 1281909252 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drop it, if a pet stands on it, it's not cursed < 1281909253 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two levels down < 1281909256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can cursecheck by dropping it and letting a pet stand on it < 1281909265 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Very Fluffy At All, Really moves only reluctantly. < 1281909268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cursed < 1281909270 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did it move to? < 1281909275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: dunno < 1281909276 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it doesn't seem to be on the " < 1281909276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it stepped on, that is < 1281909279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281909282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, see if it steps on the " < 1281909285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without moving reluctantly < 1281909294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them have stepped on it yet < 1281909306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, here comes trouble < 1281909306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow < 1281909311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, a pony < 1281909312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANOTHER PET YAY < 1281909320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do ponies like pancakes < 1281909341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh wow? < 1281909346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I think they make them peaceful < 1281909355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: garlic? < 1281909362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have one food ration left! < 1281909362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1281909364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's worth a try < 1281909369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(food rations don't tame ponies anyway) < 1281909374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tame now < 1281909388 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up names of My Little Ponys < 1281909414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else in the vicinity could have been cursed? < 1281909428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the floor! < 1281909448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, i'll just call it Sparkle < 1281909460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pony just stepped on the amulet < 1281909461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no unease < 1281909470 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't pick it up just now? < 1281909470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1281909471 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i picked it up < 1281909485 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could you tune in to termcast? < 1281909489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether they're avoiding it just by chance < 1281909501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281909504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1281909546 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep waiting? < 1281909554 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But at this point, it's looking dismal < 1281909565 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, don't wear cursed amulets < 1281909570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this /isn't/ the sokoban amulet? < 1281909572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what does that do? < 1281909590 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'd say that's cursed < 1281909591 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cursed amulets? Well, one amulet can kill you in 6 turns < 1281909600 0 :tombom__!tombom@82.11.85.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1281909601 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's usually generated cursed < 1281909604 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(always?) < 1281909607 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you fix it? < 1281909612 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, by removing it < 1281909616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1281909619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1281909620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncursing it < 1281909625 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Water is easiest < 1281909629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1281909630 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a scroll of uncursing < 1281909632 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll hang on to it < 1281909635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i name it cursed for now? < 1281909638 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281909665 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of sokoban! < 1281909666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to get all my pets < 1281909672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how do I get to minetown, btw? < 1281909674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other >? < 1281909676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1281909676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mines < 1281909687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go up, and find the other > somewhere up there < 1281909697 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the sky is blue, where baby burp and flowers bloom < 1281909702 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: did I miss a pet? < 1281909712 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly? < 1281909719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not him again < 1281909722 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been keeping it open < 1281909723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: felix 3 never follows me but the others do < 1281909726 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it because he's older or something? < 1281909730 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i need to feed him < 1281909731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P < 1281909732 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:P < 1281909737 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Felix < 1281909739 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716] < 1281909740 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he likes you more < 1281909742 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, less < 1281909743 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1281909748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does feeding help? < 1281909795 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1281909798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all five pets on one screen < 1281909804 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whee < 1281909830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/Jw8jG.png < 1281909840 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1281909859 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so now what, just head down to the >? < 1281909873 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or go back to the mines < 1281909891 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entrance is on dlvl 2 or 3 iirc < 1281909892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1281909895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281909897 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the best idea? < 1281909932 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably safe for a few more levels on the main branch; I wouldn't recommend going below about 10 before the mines, but that's me < 1281909948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just head to the mines then < 1281909968 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mines can be dangerous though because they are open and have lots of monsters, so be careful < 1281909975 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the gwawod) < 1281909976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, but i have five pets < 1281909986 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gwawod? < 1281909995 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome with a wand of death < 1281909995 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/Death would not be a concern if that amulet were there! < 1281910015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i have the amulet < 1281910017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just cursed < 1281910031 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, can the "ofReflection in Soko be generated cursed? < 1281910033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: will the mirror work? < 1281910038 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: dunno < 1281910043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: coppro said it's usually cursed < 1281910044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281910044 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: gwawod is rare < 1281910046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not always < 1281910052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, deathonastick is playing? < 1281910054 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I meant the "oStrangulation < 1281910057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281910070 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, bad jewelry is 90% cursed, and good is 10% cursed < 1281910085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this amlet likely to be the reflection in any way? < 1281910092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1281910095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deathonastick doesn't use colour < 1281910099 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the famous deathonastick! < 1281910101 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, once it's uncursed, you'll find out < 1281910109 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has the amulet < 1281910111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but jesus < 1281910113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's playing < 1281910116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with completely stock settings < 1281910144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncoloured ascii < 1281910153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : alise: we suspect he may be slightly old-fashioned < 1281910153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's just a hunch < 1281910191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : he doesn't believe in travel, shift-walk, or selecting a symbol on farlook it seems < 1281910240 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much shit is on these squares?! < 1281910243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway back to my game < 1281910247 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so, ascend, yeah? < 1281910253 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aliseyeah < 1281910261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1281910264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my pets are killing machines < 1281910264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesome < 1281910282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa < 1281910287 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm rapidly losing health < 1281910297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that wand? < 1281910304 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orge was zapping striking < 1281910313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 231 potions of holy water < 1281910314 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's... WTF < 1281910320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i zap striking in return, or what? < 1281910354 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, give it one shot I'd say < 1281910362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you watching deathonastick? < 1281910365 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1281910365 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1281910366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's bloody insane! < 1281910369 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i know < 1281910373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you should take a look anyway :| < 1281910377 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has the amulet < 1281910385 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this on nao? < 1281910388 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1281910394 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281910398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: keep zapping him with it? < 1281910418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: he's playing without graphics, without colour < 1281910424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has 231 holy waters < 1281910426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he isn't using travel < 1281910432 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or shift-walk < 1281910438 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is he? quest? < 1281910441 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's apparently been farlooking every possible ghost < 1281910444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than changing the symbol < 1281910446 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dlevel 13 < 1281910447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: dlvl 13, he has the amulet < 1281910450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure where that is < 1281910455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's close to ascending, sources say < 1281910464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: also, these squares have two pages of items each on them < 1281910466 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1281910470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also he is wearing tons of shit < 1281910471 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1281910471 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just dug the whole level out < 1281910473 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1281910493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : this is such a weird game though, it's just a different scale to anything except, I don't know, extinctionist? < 1281910501 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's hope he doesn't make the same mistake twice < 1281910506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder if he's going to enter the planes unburdened < 1281910506 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I suspect... possibly not < 1281910515 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281910518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T:1479307 < 1281910522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what he's trying to do < 1281910530 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing he tried last time? < 1281910533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : he's blesssing everything in his inventory lol < 1281910541 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, he doesn't have any gems or anything < 1281910541 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pets < 1281910544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281910545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : alise: ascend with a stupid number of gems, I believe < 1281910556 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds likely < 1281910559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Your wand of death glows with a light blue aura." < 1281910581 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/DeathOnAStick < 1281910594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281910618 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't zap /death at Death < 1281910639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Death? < 1281910643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, his game < 1281910651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i - a +0 orcish helm < 1281910651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : q - an orcish cloak < 1281910652 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Death, the monster < 1281910654 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need that helm, do I? < 1281910660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is death in my game right now? < 1281910676 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He will be < 1281910682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you get close to ascending < 1281910691 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, don't try to eat Death. < 1281910695 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ascended once < 1281910706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: god dammit, i need leashes for all these pets! < 1281910707 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION never even crossed Medusa < 1281910708 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get leashes? < 1281910717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : If it's not blessed, it's not good enough for DoaS. < 1281910717 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1281910732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you need is a magic whistle; that's a good pet-management tool. < 1281910750 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has a whistle of unknown, but possible tin, type < 1281910763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wtf < 1281910763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : did he dig out every single level? < 1281910763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ziedrich: yeah < 1281910768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tin < 1281910769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not magic < 1281910779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an easy way to get a magic one? :P < 1281910786 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish < 1281910788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : He's not insane, just a little compulsive, and also not getting with the times. (Or, blind an playing on a braille terminal while insane). < 1281910788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Iku_: huh, there's a theory I've never heard before < 1281910788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : blind playing nethack. < 1281910815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I used to know someone who played on a braille terminal < 1281910816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ascended, too < 1281910870 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1281910878 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, you could just tell us to go into #nethack < 1281910891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : note to self: self, the scroll you called enchant weapon is actually remove curse. < 1281910895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well, that's true. < 1281910898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm like < 1281910900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nethack < 1281910904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Digest < 1281910910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I filter out the highest-quality #nethack material < 1281910920 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281910933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need like < 1281910937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that tells me how many pets i have on a level < 1281910939 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if i missed one < 1281910978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1281910979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my five pets < 1281910990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : now THAT'S crazy prepared. < 1281910990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : keeping cockatrice corpses in an icebox next to the 2 level downstairs. < 1281911021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: dlvl 2 or 3 right? < 1281911022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for mines < 1281911024 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1281911027 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be a second downstair < 1281911042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are laden with moisture and can barely breathe! < 1281911043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOG CLOUD < 1281911044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP < 1281911048 0 :Flonk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281911049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do i DO < 1281911052 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill it < 1281911057 0 :wareya_!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1281911058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'M INSIDE IT < 1281911059 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :wareya < 1281911068 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't mean you can't kill it < 1281911073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just hit the walls? < 1281911079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I _think_ < 1281911085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol deathonastick has $0 < 1281911100 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, check your moisture-vulnerable stuff < 1281911110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The water nymph pretends to be friendly to Shaggy Dog.--More-- < 1281911167 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit low on food... < 1281911169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a pancake < 1281911177 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on jumk food < 1281911179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: how far do you think i'll get? < 1281911180 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :junk* < 1281911183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wareya: i mean in nethack. < 1281911188 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too < 1281911192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1281911204 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a while ago, though < 1281911281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: 2/3 or 3/4 for mines? < 1281911281 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1281911285 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3 right? < 1281911288 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: dunno < 1281911291 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be a second downstair < 1281911294 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty obvious < 1281911296 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-195-216-222.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281911360 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When should alise dip for Excalibur? < 1281911372 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's at dlvl 1! < 1281911386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : As interesting as DoaS might be, I think I might return to my game in search of a wand of cancellation. < 1281911386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : And color. < 1281911452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i /think/ deathonastick is about to ascend. < 1281911455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, when :P < 1281911479 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rickRoll (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, killed by a succubus, while helpless < 1281911479 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hehe, he's no stranger to love < 1281911481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1281911571 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281911578 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes Sgeo, those are pets < 1281911581 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they? < 1281911586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giants? < 1281911588 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fire giants < 1281911593 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1281911634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1281911647 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack seems incredibly boring < 1281911682 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281911805 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1281911891 0 :tombom__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1281911969 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have posted this a long time ago, but fuck it: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Redstone_circuits < 1281911985 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's essentially just NOT and OR gates anyway < 1281912896 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1281913100 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a friend who knows the creator of Minecraft. Am I special? < 1281913102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1281913128 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 2 degrees of separation, how many _should_ that be? < 1281913132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: six! < 1281913134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it isn't < 1281913138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i thought nethack was boring too < 1281913141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it perks up after a few levels < 1281913147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, you have 2 there < 1281913152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1281913157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what did your question mean, then? < 1281913160 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1281913173 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean how many people should be at 2 degrees of separation < 1281913181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1281913193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: depends < 1281913206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the space of people squares every extra degree of separation, maybe < 1281913218 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taking world population as 6.7 billion < 1281913221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1281913225 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there's that scale-something thing, he may be a "hub", giving more people < 1281913229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as 6697254041 < 1281913230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281913231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough :P < 1281913242 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281913247 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1281913248 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then 2 degrees of separation = 4 people < 1281913266 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilomar get back :( < 1281913268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1281913275 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I'm about to win BN < 1281913278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, b nomic < 1281913280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: er surely you know more than 2 people, and so does your friend :D < 1281913280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1281913280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blog < 1281913286 0 :Gregor-P!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1281913289 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well if six people is the whole world! < 1281913294 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need lilomar to come back and award me the points < 1281913303 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that 150 number that is sometimes mentioned < 1281913303 0 :Gregor-P!~AndChat@184-195-216-222.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281913306 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: got a better growth formula? < 1281913313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 is meant to be the maximum you /can/ know, or something < 1281913316 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not /do/ know < 1281913344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: anyway my scale-free thing applies iirc, some people are _hubs_ and are better connected, so your distance to them should be less < 1281913373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : deathonastick[3]: If you ever see him in real life, please give him a hug and tell him that everything is going to be all right. < 1281913383 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: we're all in #nethack < 1281913395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're getting the undigested version < 1281913395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't < 1281913398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full of ... of THINGS < 1281913569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if anyone is totally bored of watching daos < 1281913571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm playing again < 1281913619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fucking felix 3 again < 1281913624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make a cat like you?! < 1281913639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried feeding it < 1281913640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the food MISSED < 1281913648 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1281913704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a while ago) < 1281913892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: are you watching this < 1281913895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: felix 3 < 1281913898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is actively moving away from me < 1281913917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: is there any way to make a cat like me :| < 1281914040 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no < 1281914045 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not watching < 1281914084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy with DoaS i bet :'<<< < 1281914087 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beard of sadness < 1281914129 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: making images for my dynasty < 1281914155 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :know a good editor for pixel-level image editing? < 1281914183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: pixen for os x :P < 1281914197 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks alise < 1281914202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what i used < 1281914214 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1281914222 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixel art < 1281914224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's designed for it < 1281914236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like ms paint on crack, steroids, layers and a few other drugs of questionable morality < 1281914243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cocoa < 1281914249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no luck on non-os x systems < 1281914270 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoa's dumb anyway < 1281914307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't the nicest toolkit to program in < 1281914699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: should i just abandon felix 3, if he hates me so much? < 1281914705 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1281914719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: like 70% of my herding time is devoted to chasing after him after all the others come < 1281914728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does abandoning a pet have any negative effects? < 1281914747 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might get feral and attack you later < 1281914769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yeah, but ... i can defeat a cat :P < 1281914774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, no actual downsides then < 1281914793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, final question then: is there any way to make it like me? < 1281914852 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh pixen looks cool < 1281914913 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1281914915 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i'm on dlvl 3, so i should look for another downstairs? < 1281914920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there is one < 1281914920 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1281914921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was easy < 1281914926 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I normally explore every level < 1281914929 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not been doing that? < 1281914932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1281914968 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e's in Mines < 1281915005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate a pancake < 1281915008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was rotten < 1281915009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm still hungry < 1281915013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and confused < 1281915022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT FELIX 3 < 1281915067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION asks nethack for pet advice < 1281915100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate a pancake, i hate the daffodils < 1281915114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DeathOnAStick entered the Planes, on turn 1481268 < 1281915193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : he has 6000 hitpoints and AC -56 < 1281915297 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethanck is unplayable < 1281915304 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike the angband < 1281915352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice < 1281915354 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: for the record < 1281915365 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1281915367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ABANDONED FELIX 3: RADIOTRON on Dlvl 3. < 1281915431 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: can i get excalibur now? < 1281915459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1281915538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1281915542 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a" on termcast.org < 1281915543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :endgame < 1281915628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: so do i just drop the sword in? < 1281915632 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#dip < 1281915644 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1281915645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN HAS EXCALIBUR? < 1281915645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your long sword rusts somewhat. < 1281915672 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you at least level 5? < 1281915677 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :level 9 dude < 1281915685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just have to keep dipping < 1281915784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You faint from lack of food. You regain consciousness. < 1281916038 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be lots of food in the early levels of the mines < 1281916053 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the gnomes < 1281916140 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excalibur! < 1281916335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1281916339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1281916378 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1281916399 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, search that eastern room < 1281916401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ape corpses okay to eat? < 1281916407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, i don't want to look in that room < 1281916407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why bother < 1281916413 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why NOT? < 1281916418 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have no food < 1281916420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm going to the mines < 1281916424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there is food < 1281916427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an e < 1281916430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gosh, an e < 1281916434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have telepathy < 1281916441 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it may leave a corpse < 1281916444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes it may < 1281916479 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you do realise i'm blind < 1281916483 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...yes < 1281916488 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not anymore < 1281916502 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blindfold nbefore e attack < 1281916551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1281916584 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold onto lizard corpse < 1281916586 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1281916598 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to /avoid/ starving this time. < 1281916600 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't spoil, and they can save you in the event of cockatrice hiss < 1281916620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, mines time < 1281916622 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any suggestions? < 1281916624 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for te mines < 1281916635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a leash! <3 < 1281916635 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1281916637 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" It is usually better to eat the corpse since opening a tin may take many turns, and lizard corpses do not rot and never become old to cause sickness. Because of this, it is wise to keep at least one lizard corpse in your inventory." < 1281916639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i just have to decide on a pet to put it on < 1281916658 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it functions as emergency food! < 1281916659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1281916664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: okay dammit i'll get one later < 1281916668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now, can you help me drop stuff? < 1281916674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how heavy is the cloak? < 1281916681 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1281916701 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rusty knife can go < 1281916706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spear any use? < 1281916765 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea