00:00:02 pikhq, I would excuse the calculator on the grounds that everyone does it that way it seems 00:00:07 unless you are doing a CAS 00:00:20 in which case you don't try to emulate a calculator 00:00:41 Vorpal: Yes, but here's the thing: the menu/interface type thing is the normal UI convention on Windows. Except for the things that decide "fuck you". 00:00:52 ah 00:01:03 Most of which are Microsfot things. 00:01:07 But not ALL Microsfot things. 00:01:08 pikhq: I think the only UI-abusing Windows application that's actually got it right is Chrome. 00:01:33 alise: Probably. It actually doesn't feel like it's abusing the UI at all. 00:01:36 why do games get away with it 00:01:41 and no one complains 00:01:52 Bleh, hate Chrome's UI. 00:02:07 Vorpal: Because those run effectively single-tasked as the sole program on the system. 00:02:15 * Phantom_Hoover → sleep 00:02:32 pikhq, hm most have pretty extreme UIs though 00:02:41 Yes, but they're not integrated into the system. 00:02:48 well yeah 00:02:52 They're not an application in that you don't multitask with them. 00:02:52 mines is consistent I guess 00:02:59 They're like a reboot. 00:03:04 Without the reboot. 00:03:14 Gregor, you don't know how I play then 00:03:28 I always play windowed and pause if anything interesting happens on irc 00:03:34 now, night → 00:06:36 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:08:49 yes, but you are also boring. 00:08:53 and hate fun. 00:09:04 pikhq: Consultant #1, get your ass over to #mitosis. 00:09:10 I hereby consult you on this matter. 00:16:02 pikhq: You are violating your contract. 00:17:59 Oooh 00:18:04 Factor 0.94 was released 00:21:49 i really wish slava died before he could invent factor. 00:21:57 anyone here played world of goo? 00:22:02 no, but it sounds fun enough to play sometime 00:22:37 i just finished the demo 00:22:43 considering pirating the rest >.> 00:23:19 -!- Mathnerd314 has joined. 00:23:39 * Sgeo feels a very, very strong urge to teach Haskell to someone 00:24:34 * quintopia hugs Sgeo 00:37:25 Sgeo: teach it to me. 00:37:30 i've suffered from amnesia 00:39:43 First thing to know: Functions are not like functions in most languages. Functions in Haskell only depend on arguments. So addition, (+). 1 + 1 is always two. All functions in Haskell behave like this 00:40:14 So you can't have a function that returns a random number 00:40:22 You can't have a function that reads input 00:40:23 etc. 00:40:54 Haskell does have a way of dealing with this, but first, we should learn about types 00:41:05 what he's saying is, there are not procedures without monads 00:41:16 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:41:21 or I/O type iirc 00:41:40 quintopia, alise doesn't actually not know this stuff 00:41:49 E just wants to see if I have any teaching ability 00:42:06 and i'm critiquing it to align more with your audience :D 00:42:29 this crowd prefers mathematical rigor, i think 00:42:54 Sgeo: no, actually 00:42:56 sorry. please continue. 00:43:18 i was already 99% sure you had no teaching ability, like almost everyone else including me, because teaching is really hard and not many people can do it at all 00:43:20 i'm just saving someone else 00:44:43 Anyways, things in Haskell have types. However, the type system in Haskell is more elaborate than in, say, C++ 00:45:06 lol <3 alise 00:45:28 Bleh, it's hard for me to do this over IRC 00:45:38 i'm actually not such a bad teacher, but i know that this is not a good environment for the teaching 00:45:40 I sort of want to be in front of the person, demonstrating syntax stuff 00:45:41 also what sgeo said 00:46:13 even if you feel like you're teaching well you probably aren't :p 00:46:23 you in general, not just specific-you 00:47:07 Syntax: a :: Sometype means that a has Sometype. Unlike many statically-typed languages, you often don't need to write types out 00:47:17 you must have high standards for the teaching 00:47:19 The type of 'a' is Char 00:47:32 If you have GHCi open, type :t 'a' 00:47:40 i think of a teacher as no more than a guide to point a student in directions of interest 00:49:04 Strings, delimited with "", like "this", are of type [Char] 00:49:14 [Char] means a list of Chars 00:50:10 This can also be written as String. String is, in fact, a synonym for [Char]. It's easy to define your own synonyms for types 00:51:04 Numbers are a bit different. 00:51:13 Try :t 5 00:51:14 quintopia: well, my day job's teaching Java 00:51:20 but I don't have to do it all by myself 00:51:33 You'll see the type is (Num a) => a 00:51:37 (and personally, I think it's an awful choice for a first language to learn) 00:51:51 my other day job is more interesting 00:52:13 ais523: agreed. but what are your usual methods? 00:52:20 Essentially, what this means is that within the stuff to the right of the =>, a is in the Num class. Don't worry about what this means just yet. 00:52:32 System.out.println's used quite a lot while you're learning 00:52:41 have I deliberately misinterpreted your question? 00:52:53 have you? 00:52:55 Only you can know that 00:53:12 well, I may have deliberately tried to misinterpret it, but accidentally interpreted it correctly 00:53:38 it was a useful answer, but not exactly what i was looking for no 00:53:47 i was thinking more along the line of how you interact with the students 00:53:50 at what level 00:54:01 how to manage the process/plan etc. 00:54:05 taking tutorial classes, and marking work 00:54:11 I'm not the main teacher for the course 00:54:21 aha 00:54:30 you get the most teaching done during the marking, because the student is there and you can explain the things they got wrong to them one-on-one 00:56:47 exactly 00:56:53 that's the part i like 00:57:46 Syntax: a :: Sometype means that a has Sometype. Unlike many statically-typed languages, you often don't need to write types out 00:57:47 not true 00:58:01 (a :: t) at the top level declares a to have type t -- which, obviously, doesn't typecheck if a isn't actually of type t 00:58:12 but as an expression, (a::t) coerces a to type t, if a can be coerced to type t 00:58:19 for instance, 5 is (Num a) => a, but (5::Integer) works 00:58:36 :/ 01:04:49 Why is Flash player randomly crashing on me? 01:05:00 AAAGH OH MY GOD OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK 01:05:12 pikhq: what 01:05:17 Texas recently ruled that proof of innocence is not a reason to give someone a new trial. 01:05:25 Just a technical mistake in a previous trial. 01:05:32 Yes, really. 01:05:35 Heh. 01:05:44 They have the death sentence. 01:05:47 ^__^ 01:05:47 And use it regularly. 01:05:54 pikhq: Really, the only cure is #mitosis. 01:06:01 Which from, I now depart. 01:06:02 Goodnight. 01:06:02 I prefer Texicide. 01:06:03 Bye. 01:06:04 -!- alise has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:06:20 pikhq, linky? 01:06:54 Oh, sorry. *US SUPREME COURT* 01:06:59 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-c-fathi/shouldnt-innocence-matter_b_298507.html 01:07:07 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:07:28 I think I'm going to sign up for the GOP newsletter 01:07:55 Need to get some balance in my email reading material, see if it's as nutty as I'm imagining 01:08:36 -!- Gracenotes has joined. 01:08:53 Sgeo: Keep in mind they support a man who claims that Bush torturing innocent people was not cruel & unusual punishment because they were innocent and therefore it was not punishment. 01:09:08 You may now have your head asplode. 01:09:37 pikhq, are they merely trying to say that on some technical level, it was legally ok, but not necessarily morally? 01:09:58 -!- Leonidas has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:10:02 -!- Leonidas has joined. 01:10:13 Sgeo: No, they are saying that he is innocent but was charged in a "fair trial" and, as such, he shall be put to death. 01:10:29 Oh, wait. Sorry. Different context. 01:10:44 Sgeo: They are saying that it was legally OK and they don't even *care* about the morals. 01:10:56 "TERRORISTS THEREFORE NO MORALS" 01:10:59 Honest to god. 01:12:57 -!- sftp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:13:11 Aaand there shall be no repeal of DADT coming, because the Republicans are willing to fillibuster the defense authorization bill to do so. 01:13:22 (the bill that keeps the military going for another year) 01:23:36 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:24:42 tbh, it should not have been in the defense authorization bill, imo 01:25:34 put it in the omnibus, why not? 01:27:14 Sgeo: It's de facto the omnibus "everything to do with the military" bill, and has been for ages. 01:27:28 Sure, it shouldn't be there, but it's not like it's some bizarre politicing. 01:27:33 Just retarded tradition. 01:28:00 Suppose it never gets passed. 01:28:02 What happens? 01:28:11 The military stops. 01:32:26 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:34:41 -!- Leonidas has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:34:52 -!- augur has joined. 01:35:02 -!- Leonidas has joined. 01:35:07 -!- jix has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 01:35:18 -!- jix has joined. 01:36:29 ... omg. Yes. Awesome X-D 01:37:03 ? 01:37:34 Filibustering the defense authorization bill. 01:37:47 mm 01:38:41 i need to listen to some behavior 01:43:10 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 01:59:29 It seems to have been concluded that if DADT is repealed, the US troops in Afghanistan will instantly drop their weapons (and drawers) and have a whole-country gay orgy. 02:00:13 hurray! 02:01:00 how many republicans do we need to assassinate to make that happen? 02:01:22 if we just took out the filibusterer, would there be enough confusion in the following moments to get it through? 02:01:53 Naw, that would just get the legislation back on the table. 02:02:12 Gregor: Whole-country gay orgy would certainly be an improvement. 02:02:44 If that would be what DADT would cause, if I were Obama, I would immediately order a whole-country gay orgy after signing the bill. 02:02:51 I should've chosen my innuendo-words more carefully, as they will most certainly not be /dropping/ their weapons :P 02:03:43 their rifles or their guns? 02:04:23 Hyuk 02:06:03 i feel sorry for the women in this campaign. their gay orgy won't be as big :/ 02:06:51 But it shall be hot. 02:12:50 -!- Mathnerd314 has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716]). 02:21:57 I wonder if the fact that mmap is crazy-slow here is just because it is, or because I'm running this on qemu-system-arm ... 02:22:30 Something is probably up. 02:25:02 mmapping 64MB = crazy-slow. 02:25:30 Running these tests (that mmap three 64MB regions) takes 14 seconds. 02:34:20 That's absolutely bizarre. 02:34:41 mmap should take not very long. 02:34:49 Just a matter of rewriting the page table, after all. 02:35:33 I'm going to guess that qemu-system-arm has its own, retarded, implementation of mmap. 02:41:25 Yeah, probably. 02:41:33 I should try extracting the binary and running it under qemu-arm 02:43:37 Sure enough, runs great on qemu-arm. 02:43:41 Probably just qemu-system-arm. 02:43:56 300ms on qemu-arm, 14sec on qemu-system-arm :P 02:44:04 That's about right. 02:44:28 (And 170ms native) 02:51:05 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:51:07 -!- augur_ has joined. 02:51:30 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:51:53 -!- Gracenotes_ has joined. 02:51:58 -!- Gracenotes_ has changed nick to Gracenotes. 02:55:37 -!- augur_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 03:03:27 is there a completely general funge interpreter out there? where dimension, delta-v=instruction correspondences and wrapping functions are all specified in a config file? and implements the spec completely? 03:04:06 So, I sent someone a friend request 03:04:24 Now, in the stream it shows that she (and other people) are attending events 03:04:30 This is a little bit unsettling 03:05:33 before she accepted? 03:06:41 Yes 03:06:47 Actually, she hasn't accepted yet 03:07:06 maybe she doesn't have her events set to hide from friends of friends 03:07:37 That too, I guess 03:09:05 -!- wareya has joined. 03:09:26 can anyone answer my question? 03:12:15 -!- wareya_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 03:29:58 Oh look, the "Not now" thing is implemented 03:30:15 quintopia: I don't know of one, but the fungers all seem to be offline. 03:35:35 so who does that leave? 03:49:34 -!- sshc_ has joined. 03:49:36 -!- sshc_ has quit (Changing host). 03:49:36 -!- sshc_ has joined. 03:52:06 -!- sshc has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:46:00 answer: me, by myself :/ 04:46:54 BOOO! 04:47:15 quintopia: ąįųęǫ! 04:47:41 AHHHH SCARY! 04:47:50 (no, i have no idea about your question. well actually i _vaguely_ recall someone mentioning something but no idea what it was called) 04:47:52 damn, i didn't realize i was sitting on the woodwork 04:48:44 -!- augur has joined. 04:56:43 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 05:18:11 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:20:12 -!- Sgeo has joined. 05:20:25 Dear Ubuntu: PLEASE STOP ACTING LIKE AN UNSTABLE PIECE OF SHIT! 05:20:56 I prefer my pieces of shit stable. 05:23:43 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 05:23:49 don't we all 05:28:41 a more solid argument is just more solid bullshit 05:44:58 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Later). 05:48:16 anyone know if an SD card can be made bootable? 05:50:13 -!- augur has joined. 06:04:07 quintopia: No reason why not, bootable on what? 06:04:09 Standard PC? 06:04:25 If your PC can USB-boot, and you have a USB SD card reader, it can SD-boot. 06:05:06 yeah 06:05:09 i figured out as much 06:05:25 apparently my external card reader can be made to boot, but not the onboard one 06:05:30 good enough for me 06:06:21 -!- lament has joined. 06:07:58 My computer will only boot from USB maybe 1/20th of the time 06:08:56 heyo 06:12:54 ih 06:16:49 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 06:25:34 Gregor, don't forget to breathe 06:32:55 -!- Zuu has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 06:33:38 lament: soup 06:34:28 nmuch 06:34:54 lame 06:36:47 well 06:36:58 i got the urtext of mozart's sonatas as a present 06:37:10 and printed a go board to put on my bathroom door 06:37:27 and got some mooncake for the midautumn festival 06:37:42 and got a notice from the landlord reminding that marijuana is illegal 06:38:05 you aren't growing any are you? 06:38:18 not atm 06:38:30 do you even have a backyard? 06:38:59 (i'm assuming by the fact that your landlord bothers to point this out that you don't have the power to grow it in the basement 06:39:02 ) 06:54:14 -!- tombom has joined. 06:58:48 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:59:24 -!- augur has joined. 07:04:10 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 07:16:16 * quintopia hands everyone awake a beer on a floppy disk coaster 07:16:33 you are expected not to drink it if you are not of legal age in your place of residence 07:30:12 -!- FireFly has joined. 07:50:37 -!- tombom has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:11:46 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:26:33 -!- lament has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 08:53:34 -!- lament has joined. 08:59:44 -!- lament has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:02:39 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: swatted to death). 09:19:37 -!- nooga has joined. 10:40:14 -!- nooga has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:45:50 -!- Zuu has joined. 10:45:51 -!- Zuu has quit (Changing host). 10:45:51 -!- Zuu has joined. 11:23:52 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit (Quit: Welcome honored guest. I got the key you want! would you like onderves. of Yourself). 12:09:20 -!- nooga has joined. 12:38:40 hi 12:39:08 what is a monad 13:00:55 -!- sftp has joined. 13:04:34 -!- Sgeo has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat). 13:32:09 -!- Mathnerd314 has joined. 13:40:31 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:43:44 what is a monad 13:43:46 argh 13:46:52 it's a very abstract concept which apparently cannot be understood by most people (even programmers) immediately by any means whatsoever, whether by the strict definition (in haskell _or_ even worse the original category theory), lame analogies with burritos, or heaps of examples. however if you combine all three and stir for a long time, it _may_ eventually click for you. 13:47:51 * oerjan actually never had a problem with it, but then he already had a math phd when encountering them 13:50:15 Wait, I thought it was a member of a people that travels from place to place to find fresh pasture for its animals, and has no permanent home. Or am I thinking of nomad here? 13:51:06 fizzie: cue reddit pun thread 13:51:28 * oerjan was too lazy to try to continue it 13:51:56 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomad_(disambiguation) still has that "For Haskell Nomads, please see Monad (functional programming)" line. 13:52:34 * oerjan tries to google for "no you are thinking of nomads" without luck 13:54:16 "no you are thinking of" site:reddit.com monad doesn't help either 13:54:39 apparently there is a great reddit pun thread missing here 13:55:31 (on the other hand googling for "no you are thinking of" site:reddit.com may give you a hint of what i was expecting there) 13:57:50 even leaving out reddit doesn't help :( 13:59:24 "No, you are thinking of an archivist. An anarchist is a violet variety of quartz often used in jewelry." 13:59:31 Yes, that sure sounds sensible. 14:01:06 indeed 14:01:39 sensible enough that i think i guessed what the next word is, anyway 14:05:44 ooh hobbit pun day 14:17:03 Stands to reason you'd appreciate them especially. 14:21:08 -!- FireFly has joined. 14:22:05 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 14:29:15 * oerjan tried in vain to predict the pun before the last panel 14:31:09 panel panel 14:31:13 plane 14:31:47 lanpe 14:32:06 Panel is a land-locked mountainous country in Asia. 14:32:26 biodiesel 14:33:30 rhabarbar 14:33:36 cucumber 14:34:39 and 14:34:43 last but not least 14:34:48 supercalifragilisticexpialidocious 14:35:31 well 14:35:34 Methionylglutaminylarginyltyros-ylglutamylserylleucylphen-ylalanylalanylglutaminylleucyllysylgl-utamylarginyllysylglutamylglycylalan-ylphenylalanylvalylprolyphenylalanY-lvalythreonylleucylglycylaspartylp-rolylglycylisoleucylglutamylglutam-inylsErylleucyllysylisoleucylasp-artylthreonylleucylIsoleucylglutam-ylalanylglycylalanylasparthlalanylleucy-lglutamylleucylglycylisoleucylprolylp-henylalanylseRylaspartylprolylleucylal-anylaspartylglycylpRolylthreOnyli 14:35:51 only 2k letters, sorry for spam 14:36:03 it got cut off anyhow 14:37:18 fear of long words -> Hippopotomonstrosequippeddaliophobia 14:38:00 are you sure that last one is correctly spelled 14:38:49 not that it makes sense anyhow 14:49:29 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 14:49:35 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Changing host). 14:49:35 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 14:50:18 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:06:23 oerjan: http://ohyeahfacts.tumblr.com/post/1049794757/methionylglutaminylarginyltyros-ylglutamylserylleucylphe 15:14:13 -!- ineiros has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 15:24:45 -!- oerjan has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:24:50 -!- oerjan has joined. 15:30:47 -!- atrapado has joined. 15:32:53 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 15:33:09 -!- alisenix has joined. 15:33:16 [ 57.122] (**) Chicony USB 2.0 Camera: Device: "/dev/input/event7" 15:33:17 [ 57.125] (II) Chicony USB 2.0 Camera: Found keys 15:33:21 [ 57.125] (II) Chicony USB 2.0 Camera: Configuring as keyboard 15:33:23 Thanks, X! 15:35:45 17:08:53 Sgeo: Keep in mind they support a man who claims that Bush torturing innocent people was not cruel & unusual punishment because they were innocent and therefore it was not punishment. 15:35:47 beautiful 15:36:22 17:28:11 The military stops. 15:36:24 haha wow really? 15:36:31 that would be a hilarious, hilarious day 15:37:53 19:03:27 is there a completely general funge interpreter out there? where dimension, delta-v=instruction correspondences and wrapping functions are all specified in a config file? and implements the spec completely? 15:37:57 well Language::Befunge does n-dimensional 15:46:37 -!- augur has joined. 15:46:43 -!- alisenix has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:47:43 -!- SgeoN1 has joined. 15:47:50 I am going to cry 15:48:05 Ubuntu hates this school's wifi for some reason 15:48:13 My phone works just fine 15:48:25 Windows used to work just fine 15:49:26 -!- SgeoN1 has quit (Client Quit). 15:53:40 -!- alise has joined. 16:01:33 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 16:13:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 16:14:16 -!- ineiros has joined. 16:45:26 I keep on thinking there's someone called Phoenix Arizona. 16:46:56 Damn you, Americans 16:47:01 *! 16:47:27 Phantom_Hoover: well there _might_ be. nice way to be hard to google... 17:14:28 -!- Zuu has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 17:18:41 -!- Zuu has joined. 17:18:42 -!- Zuu has quit (Changing host). 17:18:42 -!- Zuu has joined. 17:21:15 someone tell sgeon1 to use wicd 17:21:51 A network configuration server? 17:22:30 wat 17:22:45 wicd is a wifi thing 17:23:04 also he has to install dhcpd for it because otherwise it's crap 17:23:36 -!- yoday has joined. 17:23:57 -!- yoday has left (?). 17:33:06 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 17:34:03 * Phantom_Hoover → things 17:35:10 s; 17:36:09 where's ais! :D 17:38:38 also he has to install dhcpd for it because otherwise it's crap <-- ipv6 supports stateless autoconfiguration *runs* 17:42:19 no, dhcpd is a dhcp toolkit that wicd can use 17:42:21 to connect better 17:42:39 or is it dhcpcd 17:42:41 something like that 17:43:47 CC [M] drivers/md/raid6altivec1.o 17:43:47 CC [M] drivers/md/raid6altivec2.o 17:43:48 what? 17:44:01 this is a x86-64 17:44:04 not a ppc 17:44:56 wat 17:50:50 Windows XP Embedded with Service Pack 2 » applications windows 17:50:51 cheater, exactly! 17:50:55 ^_^ 17:51:11 hello alise 17:51:38 check this out, i refactored this shitty app we're using to only 10% the size! 17:51:49 actually no, call that 2% 17:51:56 am i cool or wat? 17:52:55 ah it is #ifdefed out 17:53:07 cheater: wat 17:53:33 alise: yes 17:54:00 alise: the code i refactored is shrunk from e.g. 100's of lines per method to 2-5 lines. 17:55:33 what did it do? 17:56:07 it's a toxic waste and uranium transport management/stock keeping application 17:58:19 He rewrote the whole thing as "return new Transfer(States::NewJersey);" 17:59:15 yes 17:59:37 cheater: i doubt 17:59:50 alise: what do you doubt? 18:00:10 the fact that it's reduced by that amount? 18:01:35 alise: i have no reason to lie. 18:01:51 alise: in fact, i don't remember any time i'd had a reason to lie to anyone in here 18:02:04 i lie a lot to chicks i want to impress :p 18:02:18 and to people who are prospective sources of jobs :p 18:02:49 -!- atrapado has quit (Quit: Abandonando). 18:06:59 cheater: i doubt it's a toxic waste and uranium transport management/stock keeping application 18:08:33 alise: well it is 18:08:40 alise: why would you doubt that? 18:08:56 something has to manage all that crap 18:09:01 do you know how much paperwork it is? 18:09:33 -!- cal153 has quit. 18:09:53 if you have an industrial zone then you have to have full documentation and catastrophe plans for every toxic agent that you use there 18:10:14 this is one of the main points of this application's existance :D 18:11:13 just autogenerating paperwork 18:12:04 -!- tombom has joined. 18:12:18 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 18:12:54 cheater: oh, paperwork 18:13:03 i thought you meant it actually handled that stuff 18:15:25 -!- cal153 has joined. 18:16:53 -!- alise_ has joined. 18:18:31 -!- alise__ has joined. 18:19:54 -!- alise has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:21:06 -!- alise_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 18:32:24 alise__: transport management and stock keeping 18:32:45 alise__: what else can you understand under 'handling uranium'? 18:32:49 it doesn't run the reactor, no 18:32:53 but i never said it did 18:33:00 not sure what else you could be thinking of 18:38:21 cheater: i meant, like 18:38:23 i don't know 18:38:29 some automated part of uranium handling :P 18:43:50 xDD Windows XP "Embedded" Edition is 3 CDs 18:46:49 alise__: I'm pretty sure that that's courtesy of having a lot of optional stuff. 18:47:15 It wouldn't surprise me if it's got multiple compiled versions of programs for the sake of being able to take out features. 18:47:38 So, yeah, kinda ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as you'd think. 18:47:50 pikhq: Yeah: precisely. 18:47:57 pikhq: That's why I'm downloading it. Remember MiniXP? 18:48:03 It's about to get a whole fucking lot more mini. 18:48:19 Awesome. 18:48:27 alise__: win xp PE is the best one i've found so far 18:49:02 alise__: Gotta love having XP as an actually sane OS. 18:49:08 Well, somewhat sane. 18:49:14 It's still Win32, after all. 18:55:17 cheater: PE -- the pirate edition thing? 18:56:39 -!- zeotrope has joined. 18:56:54 alise__: performance edition 18:56:58 i thought there was only one PE 18:58:02 i think it was about or under 200 mb 19:00:40 alise__, where can you find that embedded edition? 19:00:53 alise__, and um, does that exist for any newer version? 19:01:07 after all.... xp is kind of... not going to be supported for many years from now 19:03:30 Vorpal: Windows Embedded 2009. 19:03:39 Which is itself an updated version of XP Embedded. 19:04:11 XP Embedded should be supported for a few years more, though. 19:04:58 Oh, *groan* 19:05:08 They made a Windows Embedded Standard 7. 19:05:18 Which is about 300MB. 19:05:26 Facepalm. 19:07:15 -!- iamcal has joined. 19:09:28 -!- cal153 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 19:14:01 Which is itself an updated version of XP Embedded. <-- how fun 19:14:14 pikhq: Hey, they've always got WinCE ;) 19:14:29 pikhq, 300 MB is *way* smaller than full 7 Pro at least 19:14:36 pikhq, which is about 7 GB for the install 19:14:47 (x86-64, never tried 32-bit version) 19:14:58 That's smaller than Vista. 19:15:46 Gregor, way bigger than x64 XP though 19:15:57 Gregor, which iirc is about 2.1 GB 19:16:08 and that ix x86-64, not 32-bit 19:24:48 cheater: yeah that one 19:24:50 mine is so cooler 19:26:16 cheater: is that the one that replaced the explorer with the win95 one? :) 19:27:17 no 19:27:34 it doesn't use the xp shell 19:27:42 it uses the "classic mode" 19:27:47 i.e. basically w2000 shell 19:27:59 -!- jcp has quit (Quit: Later). 19:29:42 Gregor: Ah, WinCE. An actual, legitimate embedded OS. 19:50:43 "Also shit" 19:50:55 cheater: there's one -- pirate edition or something -- that actually removes IE completely 19:50:57 all the components 19:51:04 and substitutes Win 95's explorer 19:51:14 since 98 onwards' explorer.exes require IE 19:53:06 One could probably, alternately, substitute in ReactOS's explorer.exe. 19:53:29 (now that it actually acts as a normal explorer.exe instead of a hacked up one) 19:57:03 -!- Sgeo has joined. 20:05:53 pikhq: nice! 20:05:57 pikhq: is there a download anywhere? 20:06:32 does anyone know what the standard method is in Ubuntu for scheduling a periodic task? 20:06:34 like anacron 20:07:35 mrr? 20:08:06 ah 20:08:41 pikhq: http://www.foxplanet.de/explorer/ 20:08:52 is it always in that gross MDI view? 20:10:01 alise__: That looks like the WINE fileman.exe, actually. 20:10:06 yeah 20:10:12 it's an old site for the reactos explorer, so 20:10:17 I think it can do the more normal SDI view. 20:10:55