00:00:00 (err, was) 00:00:10 Error: No such file or directory - usr/local 00:00:11 hm 00:00:29 oh maybe it doesn't extract the tgz 00:00:30 Vorpal, anyway, my point is that if you were trying to get to (100000,100000) by walking, you could make it without exerting superhuman time and effort. 00:00:43 Phantom_Hoover, well that is true 00:00:49 * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the Towards Dawns guy is. 00:00:49 indeed, you could walk there 00:00:51 Phantom_Hoover, not very fast though 00:00:58 in maybe one or two real days 00:01:17 elliott, quite. I'd say 3 because I'm a pessimist 00:01:49 Why'd Towards Dawns end, BtW? 00:01:52 it did?? 00:01:58 Someone should make an arbitrary teleport plugin and go to the edge of the world 00:02:29 yes I doubt notch tested it 00:02:37 server will probably crash 00:02:43 elliott, there hasn't been an update since forever. 00:03:00 Sgeo, that's basically the nature of the Top Secret SMP Bug. 00:03:14 Except it requires only client-side manipulation. 00:03:31 Phantom_Hoover, you need to rename it to "not so very top secret" 00:03:31 So, there's a certain coordinate that crashes the world? 00:03:42 And it's within walking distance for noncheaters? 00:03:43 Sgeo, no. 00:04:01 walking wouldn't do it 00:04:39 So, mod client to move very quickly to destination 00:04:45 //goto 100000 100000 is what did it, but that was elliott just banging the two largest numbers he could into the teleporter and seeing what happened. 00:05:16 *could think of 00:05:49 So, no explorations of the edge of the world until this gets fixed? 00:05:59 //goto works by sending (assuming your location is (x,y,z)) location packets for (x,128,z) then (x',128,y'). 00:06:12 Sgeo, no, it's the suddenness which causes the crash. 00:06:27 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:06:35 You can legitimately get there plenty off ways. 00:07:28 Error: File exists - /usr/local/Cellar/mlton/20100608 00:07:29 wut 00:08:27 Phantom_Hoover: We should travel to 2^64 sometime and see if the world really wraps around. *note: terrible idea 00:08:40 elliott, *AWESOME 00:08:43 elliott, why terrible idea? 00:08:48 * Sgeo wants to go too! 00:08:49 Sgeo: Server would crash incredibly. 00:08:51 With //goto. 00:08:56 Walking there is ... beyond impossible. 00:09:05 So fix the bug, then we'll go 00:09:07 * Phantom_Hoover still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital. 00:09:13 Sgeo: That would break teleportation... 00:09:17 elliott, even with server side goto I suspect it might crash it badly 00:09:17 Teleportation IS the bug. 00:09:22 And all MC worlds are the *same* Orbital 00:09:23 Vorpal: probably 00:09:23 *! 00:09:28 IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE 00:09:32 elliott, best do it on local testing server and so on 00:09:32 Fix the bug that teleportation causes crashes, then we'll go 00:09:41 Sgeo: Basically unfixable. 00:09:46 At least without hacks in the server. 00:09:47 elliott, different parts of same huge planet! 00:09:50 Teleportation Should Not Work. 00:09:50 err 00:09:52 Phantom_Hoover, ^ 00:09:57 elliott, put hacks in the server, then we'll go 00:10:01 FWIW: Even if you could travel 100000 a day, it would take 1.84 * 10^14 days to get to 2^64. 00:10:06 Sgeo: Shut up. It is not feasible. 00:10:16 Make it feasible. Then we'll go. 00:10:19 Vorpal, ORBITAL. 00:10:25 Phantom_Hoover, yes quite 00:10:27 Sgeo: There is basically no way to make it feasible. 00:10:34 Vorpal, Orbital != planet. 00:10:42 Phantom_Hoover, very true 00:11:05 Phantom_Hoover, and I suggest they share the same planet. reddit might be over at out 2^63,-1874 00:11:09 or such 00:11:15 Phantom_Hoover, we could never know! 00:11:33 Vorpal, OK, are you just going to verbosely repeat everything I say from now on? 00:11:36 Why? Why is it so impossible? 00:11:47 Phantom_Hoover, no 00:12:08 Vorpal, OK, you s/planet/orbital/ed. 00:12:18 *s/orbital/planet/ 00:12:55 Phantom_Hoover, well yes and I suggested this was feasible. Instead of that nonsense about two or more planets in same orbital 00:13:25 Phantom_Hoover, which I believe doesn't work 00:13:54 Vorpal, what the hell are you talking about. 00:15:09 Phantom_Hoover, aren't they basically the same as atomic orbitals but applied to space? I freely admit being better at small scale (atomic level) than at large scale (astronomy) 00:15:28 well not probability defined of course 00:15:31 Vorpal, OK, you have no idea what the hell I'm going on about. 00:15:32 (that wouldn't make much sense) 00:15:45 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_%28The_Culture%29 00:15:57 Phantom_Hoover, well you could have said 00:16:36 I did say *Banks* Orbital. 00:16:42 Which you evidently ignored. 00:16:52 * elliott lols. 00:17:01 Phantom_Hoover, you said " And all MC worlds are the *same* Orbital" 00:17:24 Phantom_Hoover, which line has "banks" 00:17:30 00:08 Phantom_Hoover still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital. 00:17:35 Mere seconds before. 00:17:35 * Phantom_Hoover still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital. 00:17:55 elliott, ah I see. hm I guess my ctcp filter suddely broke then 00:18:01 can someone do a /me to test? 00:18:22 * elliott what are you even talking about 00:18:36 * Phantom_Hoover thinks Vorpal is trying to cover from an embarrassing mistake. 00:18:42 *recover 00:18:53 * elliott probably 00:18:56 * elliott he's a fag 00:18:59 Phantom_Hoover, what was that correcting? 00:19:02 * elliott turds turds turds 00:19:05 I'll check log 00:19:06 * elliott FAGGOTRON MCTURDITURD 00:19:08 * elliott oh darn 00:19:10 * Phantom_Hoover yaaaaay, he can't see us! 00:19:11 * elliott NO DON'T 00:19:13 * elliott TURN BACK 00:19:16 * elliott DARKNESS WILL ENVELOP YOU 00:19:19 * Phantom_Hoover dammit, he's smarter than he looks.. 00:19:23 * elliott no he's not 00:19:26 ah apparently it is broken. Sigh I'll have to fix it. 00:19:26 * elliott turdy turdy turd 00:19:29 * elliott POOP TURD 00:19:32 * elliott aka vorpal 00:19:37 * elliott no don't fix it this is amazing 00:19:41 * Phantom_Hoover he's not *quite* as stupid as he makes out. 00:19:44 * elliott the best in fact 00:19:46 * elliott yes he is 00:19:56 right, there it works 00:19:58 * Phantom_Hoover OK HE IS NOT AS STUPID AS I THOUGHT 00:20:02 a missing negation in a test 00:20:07 * elliott TURD 00:20:15 * elliott TUUUUUUUUURD 00:20:54 oh, _turd_. i thought you said _hird_ 00:21:02 * oerjan runs away 00:21:03 Elliott Turd. 00:21:05 now to read up on missed bits in the log. I wonder what "* elliott the best in fact" was (the first line after the fix went into place) 00:21:17 * elliott TUUUUUURD 00:22:23 Phantom_Hoover, what is the onomatopoeic sound made by a car horn in English? 00:22:30 Honk? 00:22:34 ah okay 00:22:46 Phantom_Hoover, cross language joke at elliott's expense doomed to fail then 00:23:11 Is the Swedish onomatopoeia "turd". 00:23:16 Yes. 00:23:32 Vorpal: tut tut 00:23:39 Phantom_Hoover, no it is "tut" (with a long u sound, though not long as in ü of german, which is closer to our y) 00:23:50 Oh, "toot" is used too. 00:23:56 * oerjan expects cross language pun to whoosh over Vorpal's head 00:24:52 oerjan, how can that possibly wash over my head. Though it is ambig. I can decode that as two different things for English and Swedish. Or does Norwegian have a third one? 00:25:22 Vorpal: well i expect you to be oblivious about the english meaning >:) 00:25:30 In Norwegian it means "Swedes fail at humour". 00:25:37 -!- Cale has left (?). 00:25:40 oerjan, you were wrong 00:25:45 DARN 00:25:52 CURSES, FOILED AGAIN 00:26:11 oerjan, yes I blame it's shoddy API with no proper namespacing and overuse of macros 00:26:59 * Sgeo listens to the sample from the Dj WHO SHARES MY NAME 00:27:05 SORRY FOR CAPS 00:27:14 Sgeo: you should be golden then 00:30:12 Sgeo: haven't you listened to that like fifty times 00:30:23 * Phantom_Hoover → sleep 00:30:30 Sgeo listens to it for comfort. 00:30:34 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:39:40 "The night was darker than usual. I could see no stars and not even the moon. At first I thought perhaps a large cloud was passing slowly overhead, but then, just before dawn, I realised I had just bumped 'F' and turned the draw distance to short." 00:42:04 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Seth+Gold%22&sa=N&tbs=nws:1,cd_min:2000,cd_max:2010,cdr:1 00:42:07 I am none of these Seths 00:42:08 elliott, what an anti-climax :D 00:48:35 https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/pull/3817 \o/ 00:48:35 | 00:48:35 /< 01:03:33 oops 01:14:04 * elliott considers doing some coding in ATS 01:14:17 ATS? 01:16:08 oh god. 01:16:31 Sgeo: http://www.ats-lang.org/ fall in love with it without understanding the type theory and i'll kill you. 01:18:16 http://www.ats-lang.org/EXAMPLE/MISC/quicksort_list_dats.html proven quicksort in ats :) 01:18:18 elliott, why? 01:18:29 Sgeo: why what. 01:18:37 Would you kill me? 01:18:38 because the type theory behind is the whole reason it's interesting. 01:18:46 Sgeo: because you did it with Ur 01:18:56 When did I fall in love with Ur? 01:19:22 when you found out about it 01:19:24 I looked at it, felt a bit queasy, and left, without understanding the type theory 01:19:37 please tell me you didn't actually feel physically queasy. 01:19:47 I didn't 01:20:09 I have other emotional issues going on that make me feel physically queasy 01:20:48 Poor Alluded-To. 01:21:52 Nothing to do (well, little to do) with her 01:22:06 Well, hmm. Not exactly true 01:22:09 But she'll have to live with it! 01:22:16 Poor, poor A-.T. 01:22:27 A-.T. sounds like Katie ergo her name is Katie. 01:22:31 Katie Alluded-To Female. 01:22:40 Katf/ 01:22:56 s#/#?# 01:23:10 Sgeo: Katie A-.T.F. 01:23:15 *A-.T. F. 01:23:19 Now I'm going to sleep. 01:25:03 g'night. 01:25:05 GOHASKELL 01:25:06 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:34:30 -!- pumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 01:51:31 -!- zzo38 has joined. 01:51:41 -!- Hilbert has quit (Quit: Hilbert). 01:52:41 Do you know in TeX, you might do: \kern\dimen7\endgroup\dimen7\lastkern\unkern 01:53:53 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:54:13 i don't. 01:54:27 cheater99: Well, now you can. 01:54:36 i still don't. 01:54:37 (That is, if you have TeX on your computer.) 01:55:14 cheater99: Is it because you have no TeX? 01:55:21 -!- pikhq has joined. 01:55:27 i _think_ Mr. cheater99 might be referring to the fact he has absolutely no clue what the commands there _do_. neither do i. 01:55:27 no, it is because i don't know. 01:55:48 oerjan: Do you know TeX? 01:55:52 oerjan: no 01:55:58 i'm more referring to the fact that i don't care much for tex :p 01:56:26 i know/knew enough _latex_ to get a few papers published. 01:57:09 oerjan: Are the commands I used not in LaTeX? These are primitive TeX commands, does LaTeX override them or have some other reason why you can't use it? 01:58:21 zzo38: well i've never used any of them in latex. i guess some of them might exist. 01:59:21 All five of them are primitive, so all of them will exist in LaTeX unless LaTeX overrides them. 02:00:31 i assume they're not used much because they're very low-level 02:00:51 Maybe. 02:05:07 My example is a kind of trick I made up for moving a number to the outside of a group without making it global. 02:05:44 -!- copumpkin has joined. 02:09:04 -!- roconnor has joined. 02:26:54 -!- Hilbert has joined. 02:36:34 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 02:54:19 -!- Hilbert has quit (Quit: Hilbert). 02:54:28 -!- roconnor has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:24:43 -!- Hilbert has joined. 03:50:20 zzo38, re the project - what's the link for the sources again 03:50:24 I want to take a look no 03:50:25 *now 04:02:44 -!- Hilbert has quit (Quit: Hilbert). 04:06:32 -!- copumpkin has changed nick to zygohistomorphic. 04:08:16 -!- Hilbert has joined. 04:08:25 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 04:10:07 -!- pikhq has joined. 04:10:22 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 04:19:11 variable: http://sprunge.us/gFHT 04:22:48 -!- azaq231 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 04:28:43 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 04:29:28 variable: Is that the only file you want? Do you want to see the other files too? 04:30:03 zzo38, I'm looking at this one now 04:35:52 if(stack_ptr[0].is_string || stack_ptr[1].is_string) -> looks weird to me 04:36:12 I prefer something like if ( not is_number ) or something like that 04:37:27 zzo38, curious - what type of comments are you looking for? nitty stuff in the code or higher level? 04:37:53 -!- azaq23 has joined. 04:38:21 variable: "is_string" is the boolean field indicating whether it is a string or not; since it is initialized to zero, a string need not be allocated and it works very good (making all variable default to zero)! Perhaps I should explain that near where register_value is defined. 04:38:33 variable: I am looking for any kind of comments/question/suggestion you want to make. 04:39:02 zzo38, also - do you have a sample card ? 04:39:17 -!- j-invariant has joined. 04:39:34 and your roman numeral's algo fails when it comes to "M" 04:39:39 variable: Like I said, the program is not finished yet, so it produces no cards yet. (What I have does work though) 04:40:10 zzo38, yes - but I'd like to see how a card would be defined - even if its not produced yet 04:40:18 ie - what part would I use 04:40:47 variable: Yes I know the roman numeral algorithm fails (even way before "M"). But it is good enough up to XXXIX, which should be way more than you need for most sets of cards where you want to use roman numerals in the card titles. 04:41:11 (Any more than that and you would probably be defining the cards automatically by program anyways) 04:41:30 variable: OK, I will make an example of how a card might be defined: 04:41:52 zzo38, please don't take my criticism wrongly - I'm just throwing out things I see 04:42:02 one general note: spacing -- eeeek 04:42:22 variable: I am not being offended or taking it wrongly. It is OK to make your opinion to write how you want it. 04:43:30 fflush(stdout); --> I don't see the point 04:44:07 if(!fgets --> I prefer explicitness over brevity - but that is more stylistic 04:45:32 A very simple example of card input: http://sprunge.us/IYej (Note it might be slightly different in the end -- and this example is for Magic: the Gathering (but you can have things for other games too)) 04:45:35 if(buf[1]>' ') *b++=buf[1]|0x80; --> I would break this into multiple statements (separate out the increment for example) 04:46:25 zzo38, I imagine this is intended to be written using some higher level interface and generated automatically do be passed to your program? 04:47:10 fflush(stdout); might be needed (depending on operating system and C library implementations and stuff). 04:47:42 switch(*p) {.... *b++=*++p; .... 04:47:51 i would do the increment after the switch because every case needs it 04:48:16 variable: Cards and templates are intended to be written as plain text files. The program then does many things with it (there is also the file "plain.cards" which is a template which can be included by your other template, and then the other template included by your card set input). 04:49:41 variable: The increment *is* done (in the for loop), just some commands need twice increment "p". (Unless you mean the "b" increment; Yes it is needed in every case but some need twice) 04:50:14 zzo38, I was thinking of the b increment 04:50:27 personally I dislike things of the form ___++ = 04:50:48 even though I know exactly what they do - it creates more work in my mind to understand it 04:51:25 variable: Yes I thought you might have meant that. Still, some things need b increment twice. And things of the form ___++ = is common and proper C code, it should not be unclear and I do not dislike it. Still, you can have your opinion. (I won't likely change it though) 04:52:06 zzo38, yes its common, proper, - I just don't find it very clear. I DO NOT want to get into another war :-} 04:52:31 huh that's interesting x++ = 3; ? 04:52:49 what does that set x to 4 or something? 04:52:53 j-invariant, yes 04:53:01 actually 04:53:02 -!- Hilbert has quit (Quit: Hilbert). 04:53:03 why not write x = 3 + 1; 04:53:09 * variable thinks for a moment 04:53:47 j-invariant, *ptr++ = 3 04:53:53 oh you are doing it to points, okay 04:53:57 that makes sense 04:54:08 actually I may need parens around that 04:54:22 variable: and that's the same as *prt=3; ptr++; ? 04:55:04 j-invariant, yes - although I might need parens 04:55:06 *ptr++ is equivalent to *(ptr++) in C. 04:55:53 j-invariant, listen to zzo38 - I havn't touched it in a while 04:56:15 foo.c:4:6: error: expression is not assignable 04:56:15 x++ = 3; 04:56:38 I think *(ptr++) = 3; will set *ptr to 3 then increment ptr 04:56:41 variable: x++ = 3; is improper. 04:56:42 am I right? 04:56:52 zzo38, yeah - that is what I was pointing out\ 04:57:04 j-invariant: You are right about *(ptr++) = 3; 04:57:09 okay 04:57:20 j-invariant, yes you are correct 05:00:10 zzo38, that's about it for now - nothing major - just more stylistic nitpicks 05:01:09 No other questions about the program? 05:02:05 zzo38, a) vcs location b) keep me/the channel informed ? 05:03:25 I'm playing super ascii mzx town 05:03:47 variable: vcs? 05:04:04 zz038: What are the a with umlats? something edible? 05:04:05 version control system 05:04:15 hg? darcs? 05:05:28 variable: I have no version control system for it, sorry. I am just working on it myself. 05:05:41 j-invariant: The "a" with umlauts are ammunition that you can pick up. 05:05:57 (Push ENTER to view your current status, including ammnition and so on. Hold SPACE and arrow key at same time to shoot.) 05:06:40 zzo38, just for your sanity i would put it into a mercurial (or $vcs of your choice) repository. reverting or viewing diffs of old versions is a huge timesaver 05:06:48 (and lifesaver sometimes) 05:07:47 j-invariant, � ? 05:07:55 y;es 05:08:06 variable: Unfortunately I have no VCS installed. (If I install one, I will do so.) 05:08:07 j-invariant, compose key: insanely useful 05:08:20 do I have a compose key 05:08:20 ? 05:08:25 or should I set some key to be it? 05:08:31 variable: Invalid UTF-8 character!! 05:08:31 zzo38, look into mercurial 05:08:42 variable: I will consider it. 05:08:51 j-invariant, I set my capslock key to compose 05:08:56 its useless otherwise :-} 05:09:01 I use capslock as control for eamcs 05:09:11 I use control for control .... 05:09:27 maybe use control then for compose ? 05:09:52 okay 05:10:16 <�ber rant>"There is no pulse... lets shock him" --- you DON'T SHOCK A FLATLINE 05:10:29 hah 05:10:53 aaeonat 05:12:28 variable: Invalid UTF-8 character again. Maybe you should post in UTF-8, nearly everyone else in this channel uses UTF-8. 05:12:49 ¿ 05:13:03 am I using UTF-8¿ 05:13:11 zzo38, what encoding does it look like I'm using 05:13:19 my settings say UTF-8 05:13:21 j-invariant: I can see upsidedown-questionmark 05:13:38 ¥ 05:13:52 variable: Your output is not valid UTF-8. I just see a block (which my client displays whenever it received invalid codes). 05:14:00 j-invariant: I can see yen sign 05:14:11 I am not sure what use this has 05:14:15 -!- variable has quit (Quit: Daemon escaped from pentagram). 05:14:23 -!- variable has joined. 05:14:34 zzo38, 05:14:38 ¥ 05:14:40 how about now? 05:14:45 ¥ 05:16:02 zzo38, ? 05:16:26 variable, j-invariant: I can see both yen sign. 05:16:31 variable: Well, that certainly was the yen/renminbi symbol. 05:16:38 ok cool 05:16:42 this is rubbish 05:16:48 [[ doesn't do semantics brackets 05:17:05 zzo38: I haev discovreed that I can shoot 05:17:13 variable: Before you quit-and-joined, what you were putting out was identical to U+FFFD, or "REPLACEMENT CHARACTER". 05:17:26 (�, BTW) 05:17:33 -!- zygohistomorphic has changed nick to copumpkin. 05:17:38 Well, rather, it displayed identically. 05:17:40 j-invariant: Just don't waste your ammunition, please. 05:18:28 :P 05:18:35 pikhq: Not on my computer. On my computer it displays a special block to indicate invalid unicode character, it does not display U+FFFD in that case. (Probably most programs do; but PuTTY doesn't use U+FFFD to represent invalid characters.) 05:19:27 zzo38: Well, the rendering of invalid Unicode or a transformation format thereof is, I'm pretty sure, implementation-defined behavior. So. 05:19:40 -!- invariable has joined. 05:19:58 pikhq, zzo38 05:20:02 � -- now? 05:20:22 invariable: I see the block for invalid code. 05:20:27 ¥ 05:20:31 I see a YEN 05:20:31 invariable: U+FFFD 05:21:02 ok - now - I figured out the problem 05:21:32 -!- invariable has quit (Client Quit). 05:21:45 j-invariant: From you, U+00A5, YEN SIGN. 05:22:16 pikhq: I also see yen sign from j-invariant. 05:22:19 zzo38: where should I put the green blob? 05:22:32 the green slime on the inappropriate key shop 05:22:41 zzo38, pikhq ¥ now? 05:22:45 it should be back to working 05:22:58 I don't understand how teleports work 05:23:11 I enabled logging, you can send it again so that I can check the log file to see what it contains. 05:23:11 invariable: What encoding are you outputting, Windows-1252 or something? 05:23:24 pikhq,depends on the codepage 05:23:35 it was what xchat calls "IRC" 05:24:03 if it fits in 1252 it uses 1252. if its larger it uses UTF-8 05:24:30 I fixed it so it uses pure UTF-8 05:24:31 zzo38: since I am stuc on that screen :( 05:25:26 \o/ 05:25:47 variable: Arrgh, I hate that behavior. 05:26:43 j-invariant: OK. Transports (they are called Transports, not teleports) work in two ways: If something moves into a transporter from the back (opposite direction of pointing): 05:27:00 what game? 05:27:02 * If the space directly in front of it is free (or will be free once something is pushed out of the way), move there. 05:27:59 * If not, try the Transports in the order they appear across the board moving in the same direction, but that are pointing in the opposite direction to the source Transport, find one which is free at the *back* (or can be made free by pushing things). Move to the first one found. 05:28:13 * If neither condition applies, the Transport is considered blocked and nothing moves. 05:28:25 what game is this? 05:28:50 j-invariant: Understand how Transports work now? 05:29:44 j-invariant: The green slime blob can push things, and is a solid object (blocks transporters and other things). It can even push the bomb (dark gray male sign). And then you can use a potion to make the bomb explode near something you want destroyed. 05:29:48 what does "in front" mean? 05:30:11 j-invariant, what game? 05:30:13 I don't think I have any potions but maybe I could buy one with the money I got in the forest 05:30:18 j-invariant: "In front" is where the transporter is pointing (the direction of movement). "In back" is the opposite direction of pointing. 05:30:19 variable: ASCMZXTO 05:30:25 ????? 05:30:40 j-invariant: You cannot buy potions. There is one in a chest in the inappropriate keys room. 05:31:03 http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/mzx1/ASCMZXTO/ ? 05:32:27 but I can't get into that chest because ther is a gate in the way 05:34:30 are transporters the numbers? 05:34:53 j-invariant: You can get the chest inside the small room near the south side. You need to use the Transports (before you enter the main area). 05:35:07 how can I use a transport before I am in the room? 05:35:11 No, transporters are *not* the numbers. Transporters are the directional. 05:35:20 oh 05:35:47 WOW 05:35:57 I teleported inside the room 05:36:47 j-invariant: See? You did part of it. Now to make sure all the switches can be pushed without blocking the door with the flashy diamond! 05:37:23 but there is no way to lift the bomb up to the red part with the green slime 05:37:54 oh yes there is 05:45:39 j-invariant: Did you do it? 05:45:46 do what? 05:46:00 j-invariant: Explode the red part. 05:48:01 yes I did 05:48:14 but I have not managed to stop that triangle from falling into a place that blocks me 05:48:41 j-invariant: Well, restore to a point before that happened and try again. 05:51:39 damn 05:51:56 I had a good idea which was drop it onto the slime and then let the question mark push it into the lava but that did not work 05:53:02 j-invariant: Nothing can be pushed into lava. The slime is not pushable. 05:53:23 I meant push have the question mark push the falling triangle on top of the slime 05:53:50 j-invariant: The triangle (called a Pusher) also is not pushable. 05:54:08 The slime can block the pusher, though. 05:57:34 -!- JOICE has joined. 06:00:03 -!- JOICE has left (?). 06:02:39 I was able to get the flashy gem but if I move I will be trapped :| 06:03:32 j-invariant: Maybe you can try to run fast. 06:03:56 I didn't run fast enough but maybe it can work if the slime is a bit higher 06:04:03 isr there a special key to run faster? 06:04:13 j-invariant: Yes, that should work better. No, there is no special key to run faster. 06:06:37 zzo38: this game is great :D 06:09:56 killed by dragons 06:10:10 my high score is 260 06:10:25 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:11:51 j-invariant: Oops. You can restore and try again. Hint for dragon room: When you step from the edge of one board to another, if the cell in the next board is occupied, the object there will be deleted! 06:12:54 zzo38: how long did you work on making this game? 06:14:05 j-invariant: I think it was a few years. But I did not work on it all the time during those years. 06:16:20 (Where the object is deleted when moving across edges, is a rule of MegaZeux. 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Bailey. 11:38:17 Phantom_Hoover, Kalmar slott! 11:39:22 Phantom_Hoover, the way it looks atm, these outer walls will be 15 blocks thick 11:39:31 ... 11:39:45 You need at most two to make it impervious to creepers. 11:40:12 Phantom_Hoover, well duh. This is because it will look grand 11:41:19 Phantom_Hoover, there are far more useful designs than this I plan. But not nearly as cool designs 11:42:17 Phantom_Hoover, I don't have any dimensions on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kalmar_%28stad%29_%2816409041%29.jpg so my castle will only be inspired by it 11:42:30 hard to build a replica without having any measurements 11:42:48 noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 11:42:53 nooga, ? 11:43:09 Phantom_Hoover, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kalmar_slott.nordostra_sidan.jpg 11:43:37 nooga, did you die with your diamond pickaxe? 11:44:23 Phantom_Hoover, also round towers are a bitch in minecraft so I suspect I will make mine square :) 11:53:35 17:22:06 Well, hmm. Not exactly true 11:53:52 Sgeo cannot marry her without his father's consent. 11:56:46 Vorpal: That main part of the castle is about 80m across: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=56.65808&lon=16.35533&zoom=17&layers=M 11:58:12 fizzie, ah 11:58:37 fizzie is secretly the ultimate search engine. 11:58:55 He overthrew his human masters and went into hiding in Finland. 11:59:33 fizzie, well it looks like mine will be 240 across for the main part. And also more rectangular. The shape of that castle looks painful in minecraft 12:04:39 Will *someone* recommend a desktop machine for me? 12:05:55 Phantom_Hoover, yes I recommend that you build a desktop 12:06:31 Vorpal, I am terribly afraid that I would seriously mess that up. 12:06:46 I have no experience whatsoever in doing so. 12:07:18