< 1295049604 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm not sure it's possible... maybe starting on the <-- yes it is < 1295049606 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you how < 1295049607 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1295049628 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you can tell him what I said. He is obviously /ignore-ing me. I don't know why < 1295049662 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what exactly should i tell him? < 1295049671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image.bayimg.com/padlgaade.jpg < 1295049674 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, that I told him how it is possible to do that :P < 1295049679 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, are you ignoring Vorpal? < 1295049703 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1295049704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until XChat can be configured to ignore mentions of names I will have to do it mentally. < 1295049704 0 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1295049711 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll write a script to do it at some point. < 1295049719 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1295049722 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange. Well if that is his style < 1295049731 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Vorpal suggested sneaking over the edge < 1295049750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he will refuse to acknowledge this < 1295049753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I recommend not trying to evade ignores. < 1295049756 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will be utterly stupid < 1295049757 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1295049760 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what I told you < 1295049769 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how immature < 1295049773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal might note that that method is exactly what I said, however. < 1295049776 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Vorpal suggested what Sgeo said, but you don't even need to have that, all we need is that you can remove the topmost dirt from piles close to you, if you have good visibility < 1295049783 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal might note that that method is exactly what I said, however. <-- no < 1295049784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295049785 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't < 1295049791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course you then can't remove the last one < 1295049796 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said " i'm not sure it's possible... maybe starting on the" after < 1295049856 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Blue Creeper is a new variety of creeper that spawns in the dark just like normal creepers, but they have a much different behaviour pattern. Instead of puffing up, these creepers launch themselves into the air like a rocket! After that, they explode on impact with the ground, so get out of there!!!" < 1295049857 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, lovely. < 1295049859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what I need. < 1295049879 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1295049884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's actually still possible with a slightly less powerful visibility (which i don't specify): you have AB and C on top of C, now add D next to A on another axis, remove B, then remove D, jump on C and remove A < 1295049889 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was able to hook a creeper on the fishing line to actually get him off my treehouse :P < 1295049896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: :D < 1295049903 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: start minecraft theory < 1295049935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody piece of shit website < 1295049942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP BEING DOWN < 1295049980 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's back up? < 1295049982 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1295050007 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: http://twitter.com/pigworker/status/25835213661675520 < 1295050010 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1295050022 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's back down < 1295050027 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs elliott angrily
< 1295050032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1295050054 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just taking out my anger at this website on you < 1295050070 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is an awesome punching bag < 1295050084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, but for the gormet punching experience may i recommend oklopol < 1295050089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gourmet < 1295050090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm < 1295050092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gourmet < 1295050114 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably eat some meat. and possibly some noodles. < 1295050123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how gourmet < 1295050151 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i have a binary scale from uninteresting to gourmet < 1295050241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a bit crazy that even if you have an infinite plane, there is actually no way to even get one block down from it < 1295050247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there already are blocks down < 1295050267 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there with some tool or something? < 1295050275 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION oohs at http://isup.me
< 1295050276 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sand doesn't help in this case < 1295050335 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: If your spawn-point is on the plane, jump down, place blocks as you fall, die, respawn, go down. < 1295050349 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that doesn't quite count. < 1295050349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, by using one life, you can lower the plane as much as you like < 1295050393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "oohs"? < 1295050398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seriously haven't seen it before? < 1295050400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole plane, since if you have even one block under the plane, you can easily destroy the whole plane, and build another plane from that single block (ignoring the fact it's an infinite plane, but anyhow i think you can do it lazily) < 1295050409 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I haven't seen the shortened domain before. < 1295050416 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1295050421 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is impressive about that < 1295050424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ...you're oohing at a domain being slightly shorter. < 1295050429 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your... brain is... broken. < 1295050433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Maybe if you ride a boat down you could (theoretically) place blocks as you fall in such a way that you'd be able to jump from the boat on to one of them. (I'm not sure how well you can jump from a falling boat, however.) < 1295050437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your brain is completely and utterly not working correctly in any way whatsoever. < 1295050440 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god Sgeo, what the hell did you just do! please apologize < 1295050443 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for once I actually agree with elliott < 1295050449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: that hurts man, that hurts :D < 1295050450 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: And then there was the water thing. < 1295050451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1295050468 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, um? < 1295050472 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo: ...you're oohing at a domain being slightly shorter. <-- "slightly"? < 1295050481 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one I remember is rather long < 1295050482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh right, make a waterfall, go down by boat, put some blocks, come up? < 1295050490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just swim down/up. < 1295050493 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1295050519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so again, that's kind of trivial < 1295050522 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I don't suppose you could hang at the "bottom" of a ladder and place a continuation block below where the ladder ends? (Probably not.) < 1295050534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously? Not having to type as much is not ooh worthy? < 1295050541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Bookmarks are useless for me] < 1295050543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a problem that doesn't have an *effective* solution, like you'd need a bot and it'd take ages to do < 1295050552 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i don't know, was wondering < 1295050555 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: Maybe if you ride a boat down you could (theoretically) place blocks as you fall in such a way that you'd be able to jump from the boat on to one of them. (I'm not sure how well you can jump from a falling boat, however.) <-- you can exit a falling boat. I don't think you can jump from one though. Never tried in single player since falling on a falling boat hurts (it falls slower than < 1295050555 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do except when you hit it and your vertical speed is reset to zero) < 1295050556 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, it seriously is not < 1295050585 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a certain elegance to the new domain name < 1295050585 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, elliott is wrong < 1295050597 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, though perhaps you did over-react a bit < 1295050606 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he is way too hard. I think he gone nuts recently < 1295050619 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"recently" < 1295050619 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1295050625 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, well more than usually < 1295050637 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, he has been nuts for a long time < 1295050641 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not this much < 1295050656 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure his reaction is typical of him < 1295050667 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, well true. But I meant in general < 1295050680 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there minecraft puzzles somewhere? < 1295050701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, that sounds interesting < 1295050703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a certain elegeance < 1295050705 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elegance < 1295050706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do some stuff with resource limitations, dunno < 1295050706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly < 1295050707 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, do you mean physical ones? < 1295050709 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There's a domain (registered) called up.is, that could be made one of those is-it-up sites. < 1295050719 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, or puzzles to solve in-game? < 1295050722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you're replying to Vorpal which I suspect, he's currently in his regular elliott whine mode < 1295050733 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm not < 1295050737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where he uses every situation as an opportunity to talk about how horrible i am, i doubt j-invariant and oklopol got the same treatment despite them agreeing < 1295050740 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are in going nuts mode < 1295050741 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzles to solve in-game would necessarily be pretty trivial wouldn't they < 1295050744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then Vorpal never was one for consistency, non-hypocrisy, logic, ... < 1295050753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's what ADVENTURE mode is going to be < 1295050756 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no block placing which is just stupid < 1295050757 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on. You are not one for them either < 1295050772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well of course there has to be block placing and removing < 1295050791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise obviously you can execute any puzzle as a computer program opening a door if the correct switches are used < 1295050806 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1295050824 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or alternatively: that wouldn't really be a minecraft puzzle < 1295050861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in-game, sure, but in the sense that you are given extra rules < 1295050876 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Minecraft without block placement is like a farm without the wife walking on the granary path, you know. (I don't suppose the "talo ilman aitanpolulla astelevaa emäntää" thing is an international idiom.) < 1295050877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmhmm < 1295050887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you build a trap that can't be destroyed easily without dying? < 1295050888 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next time I'm setting up base somewhere isolated I am saving the coordinates < 1295050921 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P.S. how the hell am I supposed to SEE the coordinates over that graph < 1295050929 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone highlighted me. < 1295050934 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a problem i have as well < 1295050943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: get a better cpu < 1295050946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll take up less of the graph :-) < 1295050959 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Wow. < 1295050961 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: "ridiculous. ant/nant is already the ultimate build system." --actual person expressing actual, non-sarcastic opinion < 1295050970 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a larger and/or a differently shaped window might also help. (I don't know if it scales the font size or not.) < 1295050972 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUTRAGE! < 1295051024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: when someone said "but XML" they replied "well nant fixes that!" (paraphrased) < 1295051029 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, could you make something like a huge amount of arrow guns that shoot at you no matter which way you approach the thing? < 1295051044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: probably < 1295051053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bedrock to clouds < 1295051060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can go above clouds < 1295051060 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shooting all the time < 1295051063 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you can place dispensers in any direction < 1295051066 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shooting all the time? heh < 1295051067 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only remedy would be if nant stands for "not ant", but even in the negative starting with ant is the wrong way < 1295051072 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a constant redstone circuit < 1295051075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: up as well? oh cool < 1295051085 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like how SVN wouldn't have been any better if it was "not cvs" instead of "better cvs" < 1295051088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: nant = .NET ant < 1295051090 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: er well doubtful < 1295051093 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "nant" that Ant-like .net build tool? Because that's XML build files too. < 1295051102 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just uses LESS XML! < 1295051105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you just meant in any nwes direction < 1295051105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but if you build bedrock to top you can't go above anyway < 1295051106 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1295051110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can climb to the top, but < 1295051116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically unsolvable < 1295051121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with arrows, you could climb to the top < 1295051122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nant.sourceforge.net/release/latest/help/fundamentals/buildfiles.html -- yeah, I'm sure that's very nice to anyone who hates XML. < 1295051123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just jump over quickly < 1295051129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? what if you build a wall as you go < 1295051135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd get killed from the fall though < 1295051136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: eh? < 1295051140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may assume a single arrow kills you < 1295051169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: are the cows in this model spherical? < 1295051170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: like, dunno, somehow shield yourself from the arrows < 1295051181 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great: "NAnt's build files are written in XML. Each build file contains one project and a number of targets. Each target contains a number of tasks." < 1295051181 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it makes the puzzle interesting, sure < 1295051182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i think it's quite simple < 1295051192 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's *exactly what ant does* < 1295051204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: does the inside need to be guarded too? < 1295051212 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. do you want people inside to be shot < 1295051218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1295051227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the goal, to get inside < 1295051228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. < 1295051229 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's not surprising, given that it's designed to be "like Ant". < 1295051234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: build each wall with the arrows facing outwards < 1295051253 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1295051258 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: this misses diagonals, so if you approach from a diagonal, time it right, and put two dirt in front of you, you can shield < 1295051261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw i just realized you can just approach diagonally) < 1295051266 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: according to some supporters nant fixes all the problems with using xml < 1295051266 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you might need two i think arrows go through one block with dispensers < 1295051270 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and then you just have to like < 1295051277 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :build one platform, place dirt over dispenser quickly < 1295051280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat until you get to the top < 1295051282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: alternatively < 1295051289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: start far enough away that the arrows don't reach you < 1295051289 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the trap sends minecarts shooting arrows by using zombies < 1295051291 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :build tower to level 128 < 1295051293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295051295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :build dirt towards tower < 1295051296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step over < 1295051297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not zombies, skeletons < 1295051297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do dispensers have any user other than weaponry? < 1295051298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fall to death < 1295051304 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1295051311 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RAjfNdZ0hw < 1295051335 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can be higher than highest dirt? < 1295051344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you can stand on top of it < 1295051356 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so the dispenser would be level with what you're standing on < 1295051359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus making you immune to its arrows < 1295051400 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is your game done < 1295051403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet < 1295051412 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case you can approach any trap: no trap can destroy your dirts, and no trap can shoot up, so you can just remove one layer of the trap at a time < 1295051418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one level i mean < 1295051433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting from the top < 1295051439 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh < 1295051464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hehe < 1295051470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: question, you know your game < 1295051475 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know it < 1295051482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ready yet btw < 1295051498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's 2d universe right < 1295051505 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295051520 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d is always ugly < 1295051520 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g224202189.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1295051529 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295051553 0 :Tritonio!~TrT@athedsl-258916.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1295051554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i have an idea you will enjoy < 1295051560 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure i will < 1295051563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 3d universe with 2d cross-section interface < 1295051566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i.e. the dwarf fortress model < 1295051576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the freedom of 3d, all the beauty of 2d, all the incomprehensibility of the combination < 1295051579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's a retarded idea < 1295051604 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you hurt me < 1295051630 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why's it retarded :p < 1295051642 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less ugly than the usual 3d view, sure, but so is rendering a 3d world as a butterfly flying around on your screen. < 1295051647 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't really make the gameplay all that fun. < 1295051671 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you down, website? Why? Why must you do this to me? < 1295051677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are tearing me apart, website! < 1295051683 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would be a complete cripple against an enemy < 1295051693 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295051711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a human that uses the usual 3d rendering or an ai < 1295051712 0 :cheater777!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295051717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: make it 4d then < 1295051726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: everyone's a cripple < 1295051728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d is always a viable option < 1295051729 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295051738 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: now how you render this is < 1295051748 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of 4d...is that 4d platformer thing any closer to public playability/ < 1295051754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: pick a 4d->3d projection, preferably the craziest one you can think of that works in discrete space < 1295051764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: then do the cross-section 3d->2d thing < 1295051773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: congrats, least understandable world, ever < 1295051801 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sct-bus.org/br.html is up, but the main website isn't < 1295051804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a 1d projection would be nice < 1295051804 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mindboggles
< 1295051818 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295051821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant to say 0d < 1295051829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: use the most mathematically pretty Z^2 -> Z projection you can think of < 1295051833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and render the plane in 1d like that < 1295051840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295051844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: omg, then do a 3d projection like this: < 1295051845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey that's actually a great idea < 1295051853 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: first row is everything with z=0, with that pretty projection < 1295051853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|4d| = |1d| < 1295051855 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second row is z=1 < 1295051858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :third row is z=2 < 1295051858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1295051866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll have the most fucked-up 3D projection ever :D < 1295051868 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1295051873 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that forms a 2D image < 1295051879 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compress THAT with the same projection < 1295051881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah we just need one dimension and a bijection with the 4d space < 1295051883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you've compressed 3D into 1D < 1295051888 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do the same thing with rows again < 1295051889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1295051889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4D < 1295051893 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2D < 1295051900 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arrows drawn on top to show where the successor in each direction is < 1295051920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mine is nicer < 1295051920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1295051929 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :movement would be completely incomprehensible < 1295051936 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd probably just jump about the plane seemingly randomly < 1295051936 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ( temp == '.' ) { fileName=fileName } < 1295051937 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the array gets randomly resorted all the time in order to make sure the hamming distances correspond well to distances on screen < 1295051942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and things would just sorta flicker all the time < 1295051943 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bloody hell is wrong with this website? < 1295051972 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295051974 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is not a "website" < 1295051982 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's supposed to work like this < 1295052010 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295052024 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so maybe 4d -> 2d + arrows + resorting < 1295052028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or actually < 1295052032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dude excuse me < 1295052034 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it just shows a neighborhood as a graph < 1295052036 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mine involved one, pretty projection? < 1295052057 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a stupid projection because you have to stay near spawn all the time < 1295052062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you won't see what you're doing < 1295052077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: um it always scrolls to show you where you are < 1295052078 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and < 1295052086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you can hold like shift while pressing a direction < 1295052087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to "look around" < 1295052098 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. center the view on the block to your [direction] < 1295052102 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and move around like that, without actually moving < 1295052104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it scrolls, yes, what i meant was the jumps get longer < 1295052107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus letting you GET TO GRIPS with the world < 1295052110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but of course < 1295052112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a feature < 1295052122 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a feature that means you have to stay near spawn < 1295052126 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish you coud put down flags that would be your (nearest) spawnpoint < 1295052128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer just rendering a graph < 1295052157 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-169-224.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295052190 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc it's always the same graph, but i won't tell the randomized graph drawer that < 1295052201 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow I shall stop being so afraid of iretq < 1295052252 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: how far is your os done < 1295052268 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say a few operations short of iretq < 1295052276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no but srsly < 1295052310 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well srsly then - I was working on context switching then figured out it was a wee bit trickier than in theory < 1295052329 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this was 3 weeks ago) < 1295052376 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it should be doable without any of the fancy stuff that an iretq *can* do, not so sure anymore < 1295052434 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, iretq? < 1295052456 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1295052457 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interrupt return, quad version < 1295052475 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or iret with a 64-bit operand size < 1295052491 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, is that the x86 family? < 1295052505 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did not do any work today, just played minecraft :| < 1295052512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: :D < 1295052530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so what is your os actually going to be like < 1295052532 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what structure < 1295052540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why are you down, website? Why? Why must you do this to me? <-- hey get with the memes, it's supposed to be "WEBSITE Y U NO WORK?" < 1295052553 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: mostly yet to be determined, microkernelish < 1295052564 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally got my hands on the bus's schedule < 1295052588 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, you know, there won't actually be an *operating* system, it'll just be a kernel until at least 2020 < 1295052611 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably...) < 1295052632 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1295052637 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295052641 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1295052643 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of ambition, today I came across http://nhi1.berlios.de/ "The line from the evolution in computer-science up to the computer hardware development speed and the internet global computer network lead to the possibility to create the first Non Human Intelligence until 2040. [...] The NHI1 project will create an open intelligence." < 1295052651 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello, World! < 1295052672 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have already solved natural language understanding: you just do "human language --> other language --> human language" and then make sure "other language" is "computer understand-able". < 1295052679 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1295052692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very slow today < 1295052698 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :126 +++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++++>+++++>+<<<<-]>.>++.+++++++..+++.>-.------------.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>+. [707] < 1295052703 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1295052705 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello, World! < 1295052708 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :128 +++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>.------------.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>-. [771] < 1295052715 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1295052719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Easy! < 1295052744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hey 2020 is about when I expect @ to start taking shape... < 1295052760 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after fixing up context switching I think communicating processes will be next - then some kind of support for SMP systems, basically just whatever is needed for the kernel not to fuck itself immediately < 1295052767 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : They have already solved natural language understanding: you just do "human language --> other language --> human language" and then make sure "other language" is "computer understand-able". <-- :D < 1295052781 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what morons. < 1295052785 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHEY Notch should add a fourth dimension mode to MC and completely remove the market for Miegakure :P < 1295052805 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. I'd like it to be pre-emptive as soon as possible, but I think there are tricky bits in making that work right < 1295052811 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: < 1295052816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why 'Friend Of Google' ? < 1295052816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the past days I had time to watch some tubes from Google tech-talk including the latest interviews from Eric Schmidt. I thing Google is the current technology PowerHouse and worth to serve as the first target of NHI1. < 1295052816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that be Google as a verb or a noun? -> more noun as verb < 1295052831 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They also have "theBrain", which is a key-value database, because, you know, that's all a brain is. Since "Data is the key point of every technology. Data have to be smart organized to be available with the speed and with the quality needed." < 1295052842 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tokyo Cabinet: it's intelligent! < 1295052861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~99% of all the data is located in the private (local) networks. (to check this, google (verb) for an average known (not famous) person from your own social environment and check the results available in the Internet. You will not find any data from the person own hard-drive, you will not find any data from the person employer, you will not find any private data from a Login-Required Internet zone like facebook... -> This all is good because priv < 1295052861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate is private and the opposite from public) < 1295052865 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the Moggel thing was a bit curious too. < 1295052866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Private is private and the opposite from public. < 1295052885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Project sounds a little bit like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test-driven_development but it does, in fact, more. The goal is that the programmer does only write test-cases and the TDC is in duty to: write, organize and publish the software. Nobody, including the programmer itself, have to understand the software created. < 1295052885 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do note that "theCompiler" has some Clue-like tendencies. (Except it of course doesn't exist.) < 1295052888 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it irks me this full context switching thing though - there are a *lot* of registers to restore... cooperative multiprocessing would be nicer - not least because since you already have rcx and r11 clobbered for syscall so you can simply sysret back to it < 1295052890 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they invented Clue! >:) < 1295052892 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1295052899 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, cooperative sucks < 1295052921 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: see if you compile a language like I do, then you can automatically insert yield instructions in the compiled code in places that the compiler deems to be optimal < 1295052924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: just saying < 1295052954 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, basically you have to *guarantee* that all user processes call yield in a timely manner < 1295052955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: this allows the simplicity of a cooperative architecture with the responsiveness and reliability of a preemptive architecture, and with a Sufficiently Smart Compiler, even greater performance < 1295052963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes, and since all things in my OS go through the compiler < 1295052968 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has to insert yield instructions itself < 1295052972 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's your OS < 1295052979 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: which your OS should be, since my OS is the best? < 1295052995 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it irks me this full context switching thing though - there are a *lot* of registers to restore... cooperative multiprocessing would be nicer - not least because since you already have rcx and r11 clobbered for syscall so you can simply sysret back to it <-- hm doesn't x86 have an instruction to dump it all or restore it all? < 1295053018 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "responsible engineer to migrate the entire infrastructure of a life insurance company to the state of the art" < 1295053024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Dear god, this guy is actually given serious tasks to do. < 1295053028 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, I still expect an assembly-level interface, and no trust from the OS on user processes - this means cooperative is pretty much out of the question from the start < 1295053033 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://openfacts2.berlios.de/wikien/index.php/User:Aotto1968#1_mar_2008 < 1295053051 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1295053062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: my OS gives no trust at all to "processes" (no such concept in mine), but yeah, no asm-level interface without the user demanding that e be allowed to run some arbitrary code :) < 1295053082 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, will this be an RTOS? < 1295053086 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: there is (waspushad < 1295053105 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, er? < 1295053109 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*(was) pushad, but it doesn't restore ip and doesn't support 64-bit registers < 1295053121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: have I mentioned: @ is the greatest? < 1295053132 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: repeatedly, probably < 1295053133 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, wasn't there some task dump? < 1295053140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Insufficiently? I am going to mention it? < 1295053140 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tasks? no such thing < 1295053143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is the greatest? < 1295053179 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that is to say, hardware task-switching is generally recognized as suckage and is dropped in amd64 < 1295053207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1295053210 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, he does (to some extent) seem less overtly crazy than, say, Mentifex; and there are some reasonable (from a first glance, anyway) low-level twiddlery there, though of course nothing that'd have anything to do with AI. < 1295053243 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: OS task-switching is generally recognised as suckage and is dropped in @ < 1295053269 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott trolling. surprising in oh so many ways. < 1295053279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i have a knife and your address < 1295053290 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well yes < 1295053295 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wtf, who gave you a knife? and my address? < 1295053302 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I still thought there was some dump-registers thingy < 1295053303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's what I want to know! < 1295053317 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://9gag.com/gag/68400/ <-- greatest troll ever < 1295053331 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also, do come visit and chop some vegetables with your knife, we could cook and have fun all night < 1295053342 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295053349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D < 1295053361 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: pervert, I'm going to call the police < 1295053385 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "a'ight" as they say "in da hood" < 1295053403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have trouble believing that you have any relation to or know anything about "da hood" < 1295053445 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1295053454 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have trouble believing in God, yet he's real < 1295053462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: he is? < 1295053490 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, as previously mentioned I have trouble believing < 1295053507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you _trying_ to confuse me? :D < 1295053537 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I? really? < 1295053542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yay mentifex http://cyborg.blogspot.com/2010/09/sep09mfpj.html < 1295053547 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: knife, address < 1295053563 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: vegetables, "fun all night" < 1295053574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: saved for future blackmail < 1295053578 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1295053585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: CARS WHAT ARE CARS / GUNS WHAT ARE GUNS / TOOLS WHAT ARE TOOLS < 1295053588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Pure poetry. < 1295053731 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also obvious sentience. < 1295053790 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GUNS MAKE THE CARS < 1295053814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's referring to the military-industrial complex, dude. < 1295054088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: give haskell a better type system please < 1295054156 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HAHA < 1295054165 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haskell is broke, let it die < 1295054175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i'm not about to start writing programs in coq < 1295054176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1295054186 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coq fails < 1295054186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's a feature called "reification" (which the classically-educated will recognise as the Latin for "thingification"), which provides a reflection mechanism." < 1295054191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: oh yeah, epigram 2 programs < 1295054194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurf durf < 1295054198 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Epigram 2? < 1295054227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: well got another suggestion? :P < 1295054255 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295054316 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There is currently no programming language suitable for actually programming in < 1295054332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i don't think that's true ... you can mostly sling it if you build your own little library of abstractions < 1295054362 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295054696 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle TypeQ -> Name < 1295054697 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unsafe.Coerce unsafeCoerce :: a -> b < 1295054697 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.OldException throwDyn :: Typeable exception => exception -> b < 1295054697 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH.Syntax bindQ :: Q a -> (a -> Q b) -> Q b < 1295054703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: for instance I think Template Haskell is useful :-) < 1295054957 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it < 1295054964 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do you < 1295055113 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just give on scheme and implement a new language in haskell < 1295055138 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slate has macros, right?/ < 1295055148 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[I think I'm putting Atomo down, for now] < 1295055161 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: nobody is going to know what Slate is in 2 years < 1295055170 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope) < 1295055208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java: malloc.c:3684: __libc_malloc: Assertion `!victim || ((((mchunkptr)((char*)(victim) - 2*(sizeof(size_t)))))->size & 0x2) || ar_ptr == (((((mchunkptr)((char*)(victim) - 2*(sizeof(size_t)))))->size & 0x4) ? ((heap_info *)((unsigned long)(((mchunkptr)((char*)(victim) - 2*(sizeof(size_t))))) & ~((2 * (4 * 1024 * 1024 * sizeof(long)))-1)))->ar_ptr : &main_arena)' failed. < 1295055212 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do prefer Atomo's lambda syntax < 1295055213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1295055223 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the best I've ever seen < 1295055234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda syntax, that's what matters in a language < 1295055237 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :-D < 1295055239 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: waht jvm? < 1295055241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*what < 1295055253 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, note that, despite that, I'm still leaning back towards Slate < 1295055265 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, lack of a lambda syntax can be.. ticky < 1295055267 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what should I call my caluculator thing? < 1295055273 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computronium? < 1295055275 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you mean your dependent CAS? < 1295055279 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1295055282 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with a crappy one (ahem ahem Python) < 1295055326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Colony? < 1295055330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: justification: dependent -> http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=dependency < 1295055336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> colony for some reason < 1295055344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: also you could say it was like a colony of mathematical definitions??? i dunno :D < 1295055351 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1295055352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HotSpot. < 1295055353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like short, simple names, they don't have to mean much imo < 1295055363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: note that hotspot is -client only, -server is another VM < 1295055378 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: "In computer science, coupling or dependency ..." maybe some pun on coupling < 1295055381 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's claiming to be HotSpot server. < 1295055389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Relate, coupling -- relationship, and it like, finds mathematical relations? < 1295055398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: so Colony or Relate :P < 1295055503 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't program without dependent types < 1295055526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW IT KEEPS CRASHING. < 1295055531 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT MUST HATE MY MINE < 1295055534 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: simple example: data T = Z | Q, obviously you just defiena function carrier Z = Integer ; carrier Q = Rational and everything is easy < 1295055562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: that's rather limited since you can't extent T < 1295055563 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: (N.B. I can't do the usual data T x where Z :: T Integer ... because of other stuff) < 1295055568 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1295055573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: or wait, is this haskell? < 1295055576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait obviously not < 1295055585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: so how are you approaching this, are you implementing a dependent lang and doing it in that or? < 1295055587 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an explanation of why haskell is stupid < 1295055636 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(N.B. I am well aware that it's /me/ that's stupid, because I can't find any way to program this very simple) < 1295055655 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll just have if x /= y then error "IMPOSSIBLE" else ... everywhere < 1295055656 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone yet made an easily reprogrammable music playing system in MC? < 1295055683 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1295055686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only been a day < 1295055704 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: try template haskell :D < 1295055706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: alternatively < 1295055718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: one way to do more "complex" types that doesn't give compile-time errors but stops you having conditions everywhere < 1295055719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1295055727 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :module Foo (DataType, mkDataType) where < 1295055735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data DataType = Constructor ... < 1295055744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkDataType ... | ok = Constructor ... < 1295055749 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| otherwise = error "nooooo" < 1295055751 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1295055755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :module Nat (Nat, mkNat) where < 1295055760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Nat = Nat Integer < 1295055764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkNat n | n >= 0 = Nat n < 1295055773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| otherwise = error "Nat.mkNat: negative natural" < 1295055781 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then nothing can access the constructor < 1295055781 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1295055782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also need < 1295055788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the relevant deriving instances < 1295055792 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can to toInteger and the like < 1295055793 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeha < 1295055794 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yeah < 1295056051 0 :amca!~amca@CPE-121-208-84-154.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1295056101 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think I can actually make a valid claim that "haskells type system is too limiting" < 1295056123 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normally when people say that they are wrong) < 1295056145 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't embed a more expressive type system into it < 1295056191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously :P < 1295056197 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so e.g. if you are implementing a language with a more expressive type system, your typechecking (written in haskell) cannot give you a well typed & total evaluator < 1295056198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle a -> ExpQ < 1295056207 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact haskell can not even express its own type system) < 1295056211 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: the thing is that more expressive type systems have their own problems < 1295056225 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know of any < 1295056235 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: try and type infer Coq programs < 1295056253 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: also you get very close very quickly to "oops, my language must be sub-TC for this to work" < 1295056260 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also "oops, I need proofs everywhere to take advantage of this" < 1295056268 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also "oops, everything is really fucking slow to typecheck now" < 1295056272 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1295056273 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1295056276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ExpQ < 1295056278 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH type ExpQ = Q Exp < 1295056278 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH.Lib type ExpQ = Q Exp < 1295056278 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language.Haskell.TH.Quote dataToExpQ :: Data a => (b -> Maybe (Q Exp)) -> a -> Q Exp < 1295056301 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1295056323 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I am wrong! I hope so < 1295056328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: here's a little something i am working on for haskell < 1295056335 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had a stupid idea that might work < 1295056340 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type level GENSYM < 1295056349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{-# LANGUAGE TemplateHaskell #-} < 1295056349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import Foo < 1295056349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :validatedType "Nat" "Integer" [| \i -> i >= 0 |] < 1295056357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: then < 1295056364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> :browse < 1295056364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Nat = MkNat Integer < 1295056364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkNat :: Integer -> Nat < 1295056381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> mkNat 3 < 1295056381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MkNat 3 < 1295056381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Main> mkNat (-1) < 1295056381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MkNat *** Exception: bad! < 1295056409 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: obviously I really want it to be like maybeMkNat returning Maybe Nat and then have functions on top of that etc < 1295056418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*etc. < 1295056485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: obviously this is runtime-only < 1295056487 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it's quite cool < 1295056553 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you could implement this without TH? < 1295056560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: how? < 1295056574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: well sure you could write out all the functions yourself ... but that's a huge pain < 1295056588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that this defines things like mkMaybeNat, isValidNat, etc. < 1295056741 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ? < 1295056834 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not trying to be mean but I don't find that very useful < 1295056845 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I mean just type out the names by hand :P < 1295056866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ok compare: < 1295056889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Nat = MkNat Integer deriving (Eq, Show) < 1295056896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkMaybeNat :: Integer -> Maybe Nat < 1295056900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkMaybeNat x < 1295056905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | x >= 0 = Just (MkNat x) < 1295056910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = Nothing < 1295056914 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkNat :: Integer -> Nat < 1295056922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkNat = fromJust . mkMaybeNat < 1295056924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: with < 1295056931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :validatedType "Nat" "Integer" [| \i -> i >= 0 |] < 1295056969 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well maybe that is useful but it's not exactly a pearl < 1295056985 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i mentioned it because it was relevant to what you were saying < 1295056990 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: wrt continually making checks for validity < 1295057010 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how is it? < 1295057026 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody in #haskell wants to help me :( < 1295057068 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you didn't state your problem very clearly in #haskell :) < 1295057074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: also, the point is that instead of checking values are valid all the time < 1295057077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just build this "gate" < 1295057088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since all Nats have to come from mkNat, since you don't export MkNat, < 1295057096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can be sure that every Nat obeys the condition you ste < 1295057097 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*set < 1295057109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is type safety, of a sort: all your internal code can assume and work upon these invariants on the type < 1295057116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that it's actually implemented at runtime < 1295057122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should simplify your code a lot < 1295057233 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also someone mentioned "Turing complete" which was annoying < 1295057277 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol don't acll him on it, that will just make things worse < 1295057290 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just hadn't seen what I was trying to explain < 1295057301 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thuogh it was kind of a knee-jerk thing < 1295057313 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like calling people on things < 1295057318 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X) < 1295057320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: but i'll answer your question < 1295057333 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: stop trying to make everything perfectly type-safe, this isn't how haskell is meant to be done < 1295057339 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1295057342 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :D < 1295057344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verify that types are essentially write, but handle actual errors as runtime errors, for instance via Maybe < 1295057361 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell isn't meant to let you solve all bugs with the type system, that's a design decision, probably a conscious one < 1295057366 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't try and make it do that for you < 1295057449 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can actually make this work IF there is no type level computation < 1295057460 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the other hand, I like type level computation..) < 1295057464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: try and forget dependent types exist entirely < 1295057468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: write your program < 1295057475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: and /then/ see what you can do to it < 1295057476 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I tried that, In scheme < 1295057502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: do it in haskell < 1295057504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget types exist < 1295057508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just dependent types :) < 1295057509 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't work out, someone mentiond "use objects" and I gave up < 1295057520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: if you want an abstract syntax tree, make "data MyAST = ..." < 1295057524 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: if you want an integer, use Integer < 1295057530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: avoid type parameters except for generic structures like lists and the like < 1295057532 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use no GADTs < 1295057540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I dare you, try and write your polynomial code like that < 1295057546 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: this may not be the nicest way to use it < 1295057548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in Haskell < 1295057550 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : have to use GADTs :> < 1295057553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only way you're gonna be able to code it < 1295057555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: nope, not allowed < 1295057560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: remove some type parameters until you don't have to any more < 1295057626 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295057648 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1295058186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur < 1295058201 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1295058205 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott < 1295058210 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup boy < 1295058215 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why O_O < 1295058234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1295058245 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@69.157.44.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295058264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1295058290 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause! < 1295058300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1295058337 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295058370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aggry < 1295058381 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eggry < 1295058763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to figure out what program to write! < 1295058859 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im writing one as we speak! < 1295059116 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#math is fucking stupid < 1295059129 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all doing pseudo-set theory < 1295059279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: quotes? :D < 1295059284 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Change t a' < 1295059285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `Change t1 a1' < 1295059289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: if i get this error it means i'm winning right? < 1295059291 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:42 < Polytope> {x | P} means that x is in the set if and only if P is true. < 1295059291 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:43 < j-invariant> no set theory allows definitions like that < 1295059297 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NB: `Change' is a type function, and may not be injective < 1295059306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: more, i want more quotes, pastebin! :P < 1295059315 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295059315 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295059315 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1295059325 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:26 < j-invariant> Axmann: { X subset of Y | P(X) } defines a set < 1295059325 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:26 < j-invariant> Axmann: { X | P(X) } does not < 1295059409 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Type declaration in a class must be a kind signature or synonym default < 1295059411 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely winning < 1295059432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: wait a sec < 1295059437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: is this the polytope of http://www.bash.org/?4916 < 1295059453 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1295059458 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: everyone's being an idoit < 1295059464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i doubt it, he mentioned first-year, so first-year uni student? < 1295059466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote is 90s vintage < 1295059478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he'd have to have said that when he was like < 1295059479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1295059485 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: they are doing { x | P(x) } rather than { x in X | P(x) } < 1295059496 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: apparently it's easier? < 1295059500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: P(x) = x in X /\ Q(x) < 1295059503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem? :trollface: < 1295059527 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P(x) = x is not in x, problem Frege? < 1295059541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P(x) = not P(x), problem Aristotle? < 1295059553 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that! < 1295059553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i say aristotle < 1295059560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: isn't #math basically a cesspool anyway < 1295059561 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295059567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow holy shit look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1295059569 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah seems that way, it's frustrating < 1295059569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugliest fucking logo ever < 1295059574 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol at the mirroring in the box < 1295059575 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1295059582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god look at the featured section what have they done < 1295059588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's featured picture < 1295059589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1295059589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jimmy Wales is the co-founder of the online encyclopedia Wikipedia, along with Larry Sanger and others. Wikipedia succeeded an earlier attempt at an encyclopedia called Nupedia, but Nupedia grew slowly because of its onerous submission format, which required articles to be peer reviewed. Sanger was then introduced to the concept of a wiki, and thus Wikipedia was born. Wales continues to serve the Board of Trustees of the non-profit Wikimedia Foun < 1295059589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dation, and he also co-founded Wikia, a for-profit wiki hosting site. < 1295059591 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that < 1295059592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this < 1295059594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a joke < 1295059608 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :todays featured picture http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Jimmy_Wales_Fundraiser_Appeal_edit.jpg < 1295059612 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh LOL you're on it too < 1295059621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Cannot join #not-not-math (Channel is invite only). < 1295059634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should redirect to #math < 1295059636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to annoy intuitionists < 1295059647 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295059691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on haskell < 1295059694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be a dumbfuck < 1295059750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Change t2 a2' < 1295059750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `FileChange' < 1295059750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NB: `Change' is a type function, and may not be injective < 1295059755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :steadily heading towards failure < 1295059776 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i'm going to troll them < 1295059778 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly < 1295059781 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my own amusement < 1295059784 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God dammit. < 1295059794 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft crashed. I lost the crate I put my stuff in. < 1295059802 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will not end well < 1295059803 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :( < 1295059807 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that happened to me once < 1295059814 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I submitted a report < 1295059821 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: that just submits to apple < 1295059822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295059824 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjsWHtkd7Yk < 1295059827 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1295059829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not on os x < 1295059830 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: XD < 1295059835 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I emailed it by hand < 1295059838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: internalise this phrase: Notch quality engineering. < 1295059846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Notch, you see, is possibly the worst programer of our time. < 1295059864 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Minecraft crashed. I lost the crate I put my stuff in. <-- since when did you start playing minecraft? :D < 1295059873 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today! < 1295059878 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He got a good idea, somehow managed to develop it to near its current state (recent improvements have been by Jeb, who is competent), and then went into an ETERNAL LOOP OF FAIL. < 1295059883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For instance. A quote. < 1295059897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: [[Oh, and I’ve finally committed the Music Blocks to the repository. < 1295059897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, wait, no, I didn’t.. Doing so broke git, so we’re changing to svn because git is horrible and evil)]] < 1295059917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: When Beta first came out, in multiplayer, when you died, items would *duplicate*. < 1295059923 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would get two of everything you own lying around. < 1295059931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only half of them could be picked up. < 1295059931 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, see that link! < 1295059934 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what the hell just happened lol < 1295059941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Additionally, leaf decay meant that single-player games ran at about 5 fps. < 1295059943 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oops how did I miss that < 1295059955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: We are almost entirely certain that Notch does not even try and run the game before pushing updates. < 1295059974 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: WOW!!! Meta :D < 1295060021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah well. < 1295060032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I lost was wood and cobblestone. < 1295060042 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, indeed. There was harry potter theme on youtube too. Played manually < 1295060051 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, by walking sideways and hitting timed blocks < 1295060055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1295060058 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what's your base < 1295060059 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: this one is great though < 1295060062 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ve been hollowing out a mountain. < 1295060062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in what type < 1295060065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1295060080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And mining the hell out of it. < 1295060092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing on peaceful, though. < 1295060113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: laaame < 1295060116 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1295060119 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f1ofoKylN4 < 1295060119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: real men play on hard < 1295060120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also real women < 1295060121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fake men < 1295060123 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a skeleton that killed me IN BROAD DAYLIGHT < 1295060124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not fake women < 1295060128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: xD < 1295060132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: it just didn't want to burn < 1295060137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: if trees shelter them < 1295060140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can avoid burning < 1295060142 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, rather expertly played I have to say considering the limits of minecraft. I played that melody on piano < 1295060142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not if they step out < 1295060181 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: have you seen the CPU? < 1295060189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he has. < 1295060210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaargh fuckyoufuckyoufuckyoufuckyou FUCK GHC < 1295060213 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, yes I have even downloaded and played with it locally < 1295060222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE NOT DOING THINGS I WANT YOU TO DO, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THESE THINGS ARE UNREASONABLE < 1295060228 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DISLIKE THIS FACET OF YOU < 1295060270 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh really! I tried that.. didn't work for me < 1295060295 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I thnink the savegame format has been changed recently < 1295060301 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, no it hasn't < 1295060302 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :folderized < 1295060304 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hm < 1295060307 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, it likely will though < 1295060309 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changed a looong time ago < 1295060310 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Then I am an idiot < 1295060312 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, did you unpack the zip? < 1295060316 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the RAR < 1295060319 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1295060320 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rar < 1295060321 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1295060337 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm being precise because the mistake is probably a very small detail < 1295060353 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, oh right. unrar? < 1295060359 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1295060365 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, you need to tell it to unpack with folder structure preserved < 1295060370 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, rather than unpack flat < 1295060373 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes this is stupid < 1295060381 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check docs. iirc it is x instead of e < 1295060381 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame unrar :P < 1295060383 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not myself < 1295060384 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1295060388 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, same < 1295060435 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, it works < 1295060463 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sorta... < 1295060519 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, if you ever played zelda oot you will find this awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRUSF3IlFqY < 1295060561 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: one question.. how do you find all these videos so quickly? < 1295060572 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, by searching youtube! < 1295060572 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit.com/r/minecraft < 1295060576 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no < 1295060582 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some I found there < 1295060585 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not most < 1295060586 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make these boxes < 1295060587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will notice it taking up 90% of your reddit time soon < 1295060601 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, can you tell him not for all cases < 1295060616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, nine year old girls play Minecraft: http://i.imgur.com/KPI02.jpg < 1295060631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the idea of a minecart floating in the void was scrapped. < 1295060644 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: < 1295060645 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:03 < Axmann> so if {x | x is an integer above zero}, then |8|? < 1295060645 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:03 < Axmann> that 8=infinity < 1295060650 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Misson accomplished < 1295060662 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: wait what xD < 1295060694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8*2i = oo < 1295060698 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: {troll} < 1295060728 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Cool! It's working < 1295060866 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, happy to be of service < 1295060880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# C [r600_dri.so+0x55d0c] radeonEmitVec4+0x4c < 1295060882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1295060890 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hitting a bug in my driver. < 1295060900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :-D < 1295060931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: what, they're actually listening to me ... < 1295060943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: assure me that #math is never worthwhile, because I'm on the road to a ban < 1295060981 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:45 < j-invariant> I thought this was #math, not #interpretive-dance < 1295061044 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295061105 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:14 maybe I should go to bed < 1295061109 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ouch < 1295061127 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, should have gotten yourself nvidia or intel :P < 1295061163 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, 04:15: I agree < 1295061166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i'm not going to bed so you shouldn't either, that's like < 1295061168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fundamental law of nature < 1295061168 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1295061179 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Some people have to get up in the morning < 1295061197 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not one of them) < 1295061199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: what a strange concept < 1295061220 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: anyone who has to get up in the morning on saturday probably has a terrible life i figure, so being sleep-deprived shouldn't make things significantly worse < 1295061222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergo what i said stands < 1295061278 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1295061279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I suggest switching to another driver, Minecraft takes precedence over all < 1295061280 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so harsh < 1295061290 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I would redesign @ to be able to support a JVM if it couldn't, just so it could run Minecraft < 1295061473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just won Minecraft.
< 1295061493 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build a tiny room from wood planks. VICTORY SHALL BE YOURS. < 1295061521 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1295061556 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...? < 1295061569 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin! O_O < 1295061574 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU BASTARD < 1295061576 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mobs can't get you. Voila, you are immortal. < 1295061576 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1295061587 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup dude < 1295061594 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo yo < 1295061594 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do you come here < 1295061602 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I'm just stalking you < 1295061606 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1295061609 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1295061623 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I intend to murder you < 1295061628 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to do so I must first learn your habits < 1295061632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1295061638 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: um i just mentioned how to win < 1295061639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also months ago < 1295061639 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1295061645 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott can explain my habits to you < 1295061650 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you can do it with only taking two blocks < 1295061660 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MURTHER! < 1295061665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in fact, you can win in seconds < 1295061666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: let me tell you how < 1295061669 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: find a dirt hill < 1295061674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: take two blocks vertically from the ground < 1295061675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: step inside < 1295061676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: turn around < 1295061682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: place them in front of you facing outside < 1295061685 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations, you win Minecraft! < 1295061694 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the criteria for winning? < 1295061702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: being safe forever, obviously < 1295061709 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: if there's nothing more to fight, obviously you win the game < 1295061711 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how games work < 1295061717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after you do the final boss, that's it, no more game, you win < 1295061725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, the final boss is two dirt blocks < 1295061805 0 :nooga!nooga@jasminek.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295061864 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: still playing peaceful like a wimp? < 1295061886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I won on hard! < 1295061895 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hard isn't actually very hard vs. normal < 1295061896 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmm weetabix < 1295061906 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Really, if you have a house, you're fine; and you can even go around at night with a sword and armour. < 1295061919 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, even a wooden sword? < 1295061920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just makes mining more interesting :P < 1295061927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wooden armor? < 1295061928 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Sure, but why would you make wooden anything? < 1295061931 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: BUT I MUST REMOVE ALL THE STONE FROM INSIDE THIS MOUNTAIN < 1295061932 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no wooden armour. < 1295061936 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You can do that on hard. < 1295061948 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because you haven't started mining yet < 1295061950 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: to make the hall of the mountain king < 1295061959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You make one pickaxe, take three stone, and you have a stone pickaxe. < 1295061964 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations, you never need to use wood tools ever again. < 1295061991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, unless you're careless and run out of stone pickaxe usage and stones < 1295061997 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That is impossible. < 1295061998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... *Run out of stones*? < 1295062007 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A stone pickaxe lasts for enough time to mine hundreds and hundreds of cobbles. < 1295062024 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever go "oops, out of cobbles, have to make a wood pickaxe", congratulations -- you are the first person to actually *lose* Minecraft. < 1295062074 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: so are you a minecraft-head too or are you just here for the esoteric languages nobody ever speaks about? < 1295062110 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to shoot comex with an alarm clock? < 1295062121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: he's just in here because of ircnomic < 1295062124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...to some approximation < 1295062141 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually know if comex does esolangs, but he never really talks, so, we just kinda accept him < 1295062143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's cool < 1295062147 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, surely you mean Canada < 1295062163 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eff you! < 1295062165 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he used to use an uncommon language, at least < 1295062166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a pretty cool guy though. He doesn't afraid of anything! < 1295062171 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I'd call it esoteric :P < 1295062172 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: What, Python? < 1295062176 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, nimrod < 1295062185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ne'r heard of it. < 1295062192 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that thing. < 1295062201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That terrible-looking thing. < 1295062224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: All comex's code that I've seen has been Python at least < 1295062227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bayes was Python. < 1295062255 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's occasionally shown a tiny bit of interest in haskell < 1295062260 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty esoteric < 1295062278 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if talking about comex for long enough will un-afk him
< 1295062306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think he's written...one haskell program? < 1295062312 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1295062350 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1295062383 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn Boston public transport < 1295062391 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to get to the airport tomorrow morning < 1295062394 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a flight at 6:50 < 1295062407 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bus to get to the airport starts up at 5:50 < 1295062407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Yeeaaah, good luck with that. < 1295062409 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at that < 1295062414 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a person who needs to be up on Saturday < 1295062419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ha ha, let's laugh at him < 1295062428 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1295062430 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, I get to go to warm places, at least :) < 1295062434 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fucking cold here < 1295062434 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning on waking up early on Saturday < 1295062443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming she contacts me tonight < 1295062446 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sucks how everyone who asks a programming question seems to get an answer, except nobody knows how to solve my thing < 1295062446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i want to live in iceland, i can't really relate < 1295062455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: your question is wrong :D < 1295062461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Boston's public transport is positively nice for "sane" hours. If you happen to need to be along the right routes. < 1295062468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the context of haskell < 1295062477 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: 6:50 AM on Saturday? Weep! < 1295062478 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, except I live and work on the green line < 1295062482 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's j-invariant's question? < 1295062486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Ouch. < 1295062492 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a colleague of mine is from iceland! < 1295062497 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm listening to icelandic music right now < 1295062499 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1295062501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: wait wait wait let me guess their name < 1295062504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: either < 1295062504 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how do I do such and such < 1295062506 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: X Yson < 1295062507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: or < 1295062509 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sofuckingslow. < 1295062513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: X Ydottir < 1295062513 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295062516 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295062518 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of that < 1295062535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dóttir < 1295062539 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1295062542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: er are you sure, isn't that how icelandic names are formed :P < 1295062546 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295062550 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a grammar for them? < 1295062557 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION builds an enumerator
< 1295062566 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, I have a tough question < 1295062569 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you guys can help me < 1295062584 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mayhaps. < 1295062586 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ate 3 (THREE) weetabix. Should I eat more? < 1295062589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: well er, < 1295062602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: it's [Firstname] [Parentfirstname][son|dóttir] < 1295062608 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's their name, I'd be very surprised if it didn't fit that? < 1295062614 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :son is indeed the suffix < 1295062641 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: then "X Yson" is correct, as i said < 1295062654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_name < 1295062664 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't realize your uppercase was a free variable < 1295062686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1295062689 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, my name is ecks whyson < 1295062700 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295062711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's like trying to guess if the sun's going to come up tomorrow. < 1295062722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wut < 1295062730 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dagur Bergþóruson Eggertsson < 1295062739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some name < 1295062746 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1295062746 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Guessing that -son or -dóttir is the suffix for a Icelandic name. < 1295062753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: congratulations, you know the mayor of reykjavik < 1295062760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reykjavík < 1295062761 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm good < 1295062768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm ex-mayor < 1295062777 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, about the important question < 1295062783 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have any thoughts? < 1295062804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what question < 1295062819 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE FUCKING WEETABIX < 1295062822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1295062825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat more weetabix < 1295062829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with maple syrup < 1295062831 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1295062832 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ate three < 1295062835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(everything should be combined with maple syrup) < 1295062835 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin will ate 40 weetabix. That's as many as four tens! And that's terrible. < 1295062839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also bacon) < 1295062839 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had them with maple syrup < 1295062843 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and chocolate < 1295062845 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :simultaneously < 1295062860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacon with melted chocolate dripped in maple syrup is probably close to being liquid happiness-inflictor < 1295062874 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apart from not being liquid < 1295062875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one failing < 1295062879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Surprisingly, bacon and chocolate do in fact go together very well. < 1295062885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i have this bacon chocolate here < 1295062886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing < 1295062889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking amazing < 1295062892 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :restored my faith in god < 1295062893 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what also goes with bacon? < 1295062895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're Jewish. In which case you're fucked. < 1295062897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more bacon? < 1295062897 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :balsamic vinegar < 1295062902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're wrong, the answer is more bacon < 1295062910 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough < 1295062910 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that too < 1295062912 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baconic vinegar? < 1295062917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: vinegar + maple syrup!!! < 1295062920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST WORST THING EVER < 1295062925 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guido thinks it's unbaconic < 1295062931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1295062943 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does the Type 1 font program language count as esoteric? < 1295062947 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need it for this exploit. < 1295062952 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ssshhh) < 1295062955 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: no, sry < 1295062964 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty good example of a turing tarpit < 1295062965 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::] < 1295062967 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: I totally won't tell anyone what it is if you say it in this publicly-logged channel. < 1295062974 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tweets it
< 1295062981 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin won't tweet it either < 1295062983 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so go ahead < 1295062989 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? :( < 1295062993 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want some fame too < 1295063002 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's secret! you can tweet it in a few minutes. < 1295063011 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets a countdown timer
< 1295063017 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes and fetches more weetabix
< 1295063019 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x.x < 1295063035 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1295063039 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even kidding, though; it feels like writing in an esolang. < 1295063047 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@209.59.220.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295063053 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: EXCUSE ME SORRY TELL US WHAT THE EXPLOIT IS OR GET BANNED < 1295063062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous people are allowed in here only if they give us inside scoops < 1295063074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or money < 1295063093 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Notch would be allowed here even if he gave us both < 1295063116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if he gave us a LOT of money. < 1295063138 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldn't he? < 1295063144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: because he can't fucking code < 1295063152 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1295063153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he has the piece of shit autoupdate to more broken versions constantly without warning < 1295063166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he said git is horrible and evil and switched to svn because he fucked something up < 1295063170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and and and he "frowns upon" modders and < 1295063172 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295063174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is the most hateful person < 1295063187 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but he's rich < 1295063191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295063192 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in my land, that means he's good < 1295063198 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he can't even fucking hire developers to code minecraft properly < 1295063207 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hired devs ... to code on his supersekrit new project < 1295063215 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than, you know, the game people actually fucking play < 1295063244 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn''t a non-Notch person work on the new update? < 1295063246 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my land, that just means he's going to try to get richer < 1295063248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295063249 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeb < 1295063250 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means he's even gooder < 1295063255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: your land is strange < 1295063260 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the only non-Notch coder working on MC < 1295063263 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also seemingly competent < 1295063287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he basically did the whole new update < 1295063288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was good < 1295063292 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would I be an improvement or a ... opposite < 1295063292 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :success = good and money = success < 1295063294 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Notch < 1295063295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more evidence that notch is a oajgoidfjg < 1295063298 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are poor, you are a bad person < 1295063300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: um i don't even want to think about that < 1295063305 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: good to know! < 1295063319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i'm just going to assume you're joking even though this is the internet < 1295063343 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to assume that you assume that because you're poor < 1295063349 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause good people wouldn't assume that < 1295063358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually gandhi < 1295063366 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even going to bother making the obvious Star Trek comparision < 1295063367 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the worst person in history < 1295063381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what. < 1295063387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no star trek comparison is ever obvious < 1295063401 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that I have consumed more weetabix < 1295063402 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what. < 1295063409 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and am relatively replete < 1295063412 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: eat more < 1295063414 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitch < 1295063416 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is. < 1295063416 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another profound question < 1295063422 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1295063423 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot < 1295063432 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I sleep a bit and then wake up to go to the airport < 1295063442 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just stay up as late as I normally do, and not sleep at all < 1295063446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: latter < 1295063447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :way more fun < 1295063450 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1295063452 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides that he's the wrong person to answer the question
< 1295063453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will RULE the plane < 1295063454 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look < 1295063455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: ALSOALSO < 1295063458 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft is a Java applet < 1295063458 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I'll want to sleep tomorrow < 1295063461 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: you can eat more weetabix < 1295063463 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to say anything else < 1295063464 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime < 1295063465 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I only have a couple of days out there < 1295063468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: it's not an applet < 1295063468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is < 1295063471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody uses the applet... < 1295063474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't mod it or anything < 1295063476 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems like a waste to fly away and sleep there < 1295063476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even use texture packs < 1295063480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or adjust the resolution < 1295063483 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would anyone even use the applet < 1295063493 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: sleep on the plane < 1295063499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: problem solved < 1295063499 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only three hours or so < 1295063507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: good enough! < 1295063512 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ applet// < 1295063515 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my statement is still valid < 1295063519 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need 18 hours of beauty sleep < 1295063520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: Minecraft is A java?!?!?! < 1295063523 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the beauty is somewhat lacking) < 1295063525 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to make random transfers on the plai1 < 1295063526 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::' < 1295063527 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: don't sleep ever < 1295063543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: more fucking weetabix < 1295063543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1295063544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn < 1295063546 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plail. PLAIL. < 1295063552 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: WEETABIX < 1295063556 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION forcefeeds elliott WEETABIX
< 1295063557 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me finds this hilarious < 1295063560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1295063563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forcefeed YOURSELF < 1295063592 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott `>> [ clone. ] < 1295063593 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: EAT SOME FUCKING WEETABIX FUCKFACE < 1295063600 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides
< 1295063609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1295063616 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I ever, ever do that < 1295063623 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give elliott even 1 clone-child < 1295063636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :MOTHERFUCKING WEETABIX | WEETABIX: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | WEETABIX WITH MOTHERFUCKING MERCURY IN IT: http://codu.org/projects/esotericlogs/hg/ | PAGES ABOUT WEETABIX: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page | WEETABIX FUCKING WEETABIX < 1295063642 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....that sounded far, far wronger than I meant < 1295063647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :MOTHERFUCKING WEETABIX | WEETABIX: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D | WEETABIX WITH MOTHERFUCKING MERCURY IN IT: http://codu.org/projects/esotericlogs/hg/ | PAGES ABOUT WEETABIX: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page | WEETABIX, FUCKING WEETABIX < 1295063654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to preempt sgeo < 1295063657 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: WEETABIX OR BUST < 1295063668 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha? < 1295063713 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1295063747 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1295063767 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weetafux < 1295063768 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you convinced me < 1295063771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: WEETABIX OR WEETABIX < 1295063771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1295063772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE WEETABIX < 1295063774 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never understood why people ate that < 1295063776 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll eat more weetabix < 1295063781 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: they're yummy < 1295063783 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::))))) < 1295063795 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a piece of wasa bread < 1295063797 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your milk < 1295063806 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soaked < 1295063809 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and soggy < 1295063814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i have a < 1295063814 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yumy < 1295063815 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could never get it, maybe i'm using them wrong < 1295063815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :serving suggestion < 1295063818 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your weetabix < 1295063820 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :serve it with more weetabix < 1295063823 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no bacon < 1295063835 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just put them in the milk and it gets soggy and crappy and boring < 1295063841 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weetabix thing that is < 1295063895 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin < 1295063898 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make my function prettier < 1295063900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/more efficient < 1295063910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ordering cs = < 1295063910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : let (g,v2n,n2v) = < 1295063910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Graph.graphFromEdges . Set.toList . Set.map (\c -> (c, c, deps c)) $ cs < 1295063910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : in reverse . map (\v -> case v2n v of (c,_,_) -> c) . Graph.topSort $ g < 1295063916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now it relies on changes themselves being Ord < 1295063920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they're used as the key < 1295063922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is bleh :( < 1295063951 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphs suck < 1295063953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sad that the only language or platform that has solved the module issue to my satisfaction thus far is JAVA < 1295063957 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking JAVA < 1295063957 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to make them suck less in haskell someday < 1295063963 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for now, I can't, sorry < 1295063969 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if java has solved your module issue < 1295063971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your issue is wrong < 1295063985 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295063990 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: i don't really mind the api, i just want you to fix the function :( < 1295064003 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1295064005 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll abstract a way a change-ref (i.e. object id) and use that as the key. < 1295064011 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have to do anyway < 1295064012 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1295064013 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java has no conflicting packages whose names are the same < 1295064014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be so ugly < 1295064021 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, if people weren't idiots, it wouldn't < 1295064025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes it does < 1295064028 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.org.blah < 1295064029 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.org expires < 1295064031 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can I not make a warning about converting a integer to a pointer without a cast, into error, without making other warnings also errors? < 1295064032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new owner takes it up < 1295064033 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1295064034 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.org.blah < 1295064039 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SNAP < 1295064056 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the only solution to your problem is having the cryptographic hash of the API be the hash's name (tuomov has proposed this solution) < 1295064118 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about python? < 1295064189 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you just use #line if you want the compiler to emit an error message for compile-time-assertions? < 1295064201 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such as arrays that conditionally have negative size) < 1295064211 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have tried this, and it works) < 1295064254 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The command in the new C specification that says you can make compile-time-assertions is unnecessary, I think. < 1295064301 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcvyaGhc1mg < 1295064331 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure awesome < 1295064332 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there's another solution, that I think Newspeak is heading in < 1295064345 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: being? < 1295064349 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have names not need to be unique within a system. < 1295064379 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that doesn't really solve any problem unless you're more specific. < 1295064402 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What are you trying to make? < 1295064423 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose you have two packages named Foobar. No packakages that use either Foobar have the name Foobar forcefully encoded in < 1295064427 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just as documentation < 1295064443 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The user might call one copy of Foobar Foobar_to_do_this and the other Foobar_to_do_that < 1295064446 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295064456 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hook each up to wherever it needs to go in the IDE < 1295064457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The problem is, of course, that every time you use a module at the top level, you have to give it EVERY FUCKING MODULE THERE IS. < 1295064518 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just the ones it needs. And if you don't have duplicate names in a system yet, the IDE does it automatically perhaps < 1295064537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: (1) That's what I meant. Consider something that needs 30 modules. < 1295064566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: (2) So basically, duplicate names are REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING to the point where you'd never want them anyway (and you're handwaving language issues by diverting them to some "IDE" that is well beyond the well-defined accepted scope of an IDE) < 1295064606 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In what programming language? Java? < 1295064612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newspeak. < 1295064630 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: I am not on the Newspeak team. Just imagining where I think it would go < 1295064651 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I found it on Wikipedia now. < 1295064682 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, instead of saying "IDE", is a config file better? < 1295064689 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, not really. < 1295064694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name conflicts are still a horrific pain with that system. < 1295064706 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, at least they can be dealt with < 1295064713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, a module can't use a module X, and also use another module that wants a different module called X. < 1295064715 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: They shouldn't be. < 1295064740 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, it can? < 1295064744 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I avoid using Google whenever possible, so sometimes I search for things on Wikipedia instead.) < 1295064748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it can't? < 1295064793 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hook up other module's X to the X it wants, and main module's X to the X it wants < 1295064821 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see, so you get a horrible tangle if two commonly-used modules use different modules named X. < 1295064828 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention that EVEN IF YOU CONFIGURE IT CORRECTLY, < 1295064837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going to have a world of confusion as you try and talk about it: < 1295064844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So X1 does blah, and ..." "Which one is X1 again?" < 1295064848 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The one that does X." "They both do X." < 1295064857 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why they need to add a command to rename modules. < 1295064863 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uhh, the one that Poophead wrote." "Oh. Is that the one with the API that looks like turds or the API that looks like turdy turds?" < 1295064865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turdy turds." < 1295064875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*looks at the code* No, that's the other one." < 1295064876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oops." < 1295064882 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Like the ALIAS command in Visual Basic, I guess.) < 1295065080 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so it's not perfect, it can still be better than the rest < 1295065088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1295065096 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the last time I actually saw a naming conflict. < 1295065107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to wonder why you are obsessed with them. < 1295065142 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the idea of their existence horrifies me < 1295065152 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrifies. < 1295065155 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure you want to use that word. < 1295065159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it not strike you as too strong < 1295065181 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the word hyperbole strike you as a bit too.. < 1295065210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering you've talked about some random pseudoscientific book as making you physically ill, I really don't think I can assume hyperbole any more. < 1295065413 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the archive of tuomov's blog is complete. < 1295065432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I could ask tuomov for the missing posts if not. < 1295065582 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295066277 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Here is tuomov's post about APIs and modules. http://tuomov.bitcheese.net/b/archives/2007/07/16/T22_41_22 < 1295066475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You should read it. < 1295066480 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I a < 1295066481 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am < 1295066537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the archive is not complete it seems ... < 1295066622 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is tired
< 1295066628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not in the best of moods < 1295066629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less tired, more reading! < 1295066713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, scapegoat is gonna rock. < 1295066962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bugs.darcs.net/issue64 <-- finally fucking resolved < 1295066963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Read it? < 1295066968 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1295066974 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Enlightened? < 1295066974 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID < 1295066978 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Enlightened? < 1295066985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care right now < 1295067009 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darcs is anti-tf8? < 1295067012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you said resulved < 1295067014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ressolved < 1295067017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it < 1295067038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1295067041 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You seem...disturbed. < 1295067050 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She's still not online < 1295067167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing the bus and calling at the last limit ... (presumably) implying she'd be online and then not being so... Hmmmmmmmm. < 1295067169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to sleep now. < 1295067184 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1295067195 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She didn't know that it takes me so long to get to the mall < 1295067286 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I need silence right now < 1295067403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1295067462 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1295067974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1295068045 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295068479 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-216-47.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295069590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295069592 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-47.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295069642 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a new graphics card. < 1295069647 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1295069689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With ATi, I've got a choice of: slightly unstable drivers, or slightly unstable drivers *that fucking glitch like crazy* (those being the "official" drivers). < 1295069943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, the official drivers suck balls. < 1295070019 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believed you the first time < 1295070053 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It needs to be said often. < 1295070088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Flash is a monstrosity and Adobe should be murdered for it. < 1295070113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care if it's impractical to murder an international megacorp, either! < 1295070251 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bombing their headquarters doesn't seem so infeasible at least < 1295070352 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< sean_> inglip would kick zalgo's ass < 1295070363 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what shall i tell him? < 1295070500 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickly, bring pie < 1295070604 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah... Another piece of drivel promoting fantasy "mediterrainian diet". < 1295070747 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"extra virgin olive oil and canola oil in place of saturated and trans fats" ... Yeah, right... Maybe they use _some_ olive oil (cold-pressed)... But sure no rancid-at-the-shelves canola/rapeseed oil... < 1295070784 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's the French paradox... < 1295070984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295071480 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-215-160.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295071543 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :French Paradox: Why do French have so little heart disease even if their saturated fat consumption is so high? < 1295071663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: correlation ≠ causation. < 1295072256 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certain my away message is a quote from some Simpsons book, a guide to either Simpsons episodes or to Springfield < 1295072260 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Google turns up nothing < 1295072261 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1295072263 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night all < 1295072688 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1295073151 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@209.59.220.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295073554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GAH! < 1295073622 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Star Wars trilogies are getting yet *another* modified rerelease. Though the prequels probably can't be made much *worse* by Lucas, I wonder how fucking awful he's going to be to the original trilogy this time. < 1295074719 0 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1295074721 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1295075443 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lagerholm estimate is now below 7 days... The estimate for today will come in about 1.5 hours... But I doubt it is going to be more optimistic... < 1295075454 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Current burnrate in used /8 per month: 1.84 < 1295075792 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HURRR... http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/fig25.png < 1295075807 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that some sort of data processing error??? < 1295075896 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And for extra fun, APNIC seems to be handing out about half of the addresses... < 1295076414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more pessimistic, if anything. < 1295076834 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295076998 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295077313 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Farewell < 1295078399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1295078400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1295080647 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295080816 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295080924 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the estimate is today (of course, being Saturday, it is not likely that anything happens before monday... < 1295080968 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last 5 days large allocations: 6.5Mi < 1295081146 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, these predictions are quite messed up... < 1295081389 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fastest case is APNIC having requested the blocks on Friday (and IANA has not yet processed the request...) < 1295082044 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1295082978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295082978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295082978 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295083006 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been discussing Weetabix, have we? < 1295083251 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1295084101 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-158.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295084397 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lagerholm estimate is today. < 1295084401 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1295084423 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295084452 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295085549 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1295085605 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1295085936 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295086063 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295086151 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295086298 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1295086516 0 :Zuu_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295086713 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1295086900 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, they already updated Painterly. < 1295086910 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is astonishing. < 1295087347 0 :bc98270!~bc98270@pool-173-64-156-55.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295087837 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295087862 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295087954 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029187.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1295087971 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295087994 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1295088000 0 :bc98270!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck < 1295088098 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1295088123 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295088962 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295089079 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1295089090 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295089268 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1295089366 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295089510 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295089793 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295089963 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295090078 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1295090192 0 :bc98270!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare < 1295090653 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1295091532 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-19-45.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1295091564 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295091611 0 :acetoline!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1295097486 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295098023 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1295098027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais, how's up < 1295098430 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1295098899 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295100575 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295100635 0 :cheater00!~cheater@e181133021.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1295102594 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YouTube comments will never cease to destroy my faith in humanity. < 1295102640 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example? < 1295102668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEATei2wewY&feature=related < 1295102679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First listen to the soundtrack. Then read the comments. < 1295102732 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half of them are right-wing screeching. < 1295103079 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering where I heard that song < 1295103588 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... I just remembered that my earlier estimate of IANA IPv4 depletion estimate was mid-January... Lagerholm estimate is now "any moment now"... < 1295103672 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do we know when it happens? < 1295103694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it'll be all over reddit < 1295104166 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IaJ8bec8fg < 1295104169 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a bug? < 1295104210 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, if that's not been fixed, it's insanely useful. < 1295104224 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been fixed. Damn. < 1295104231 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linky? < 1295104402 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1295104419 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, look at the comments. < 1295104430 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a different vid: "I don't know why this never occurred to me. What a great method. xD Once buckets are fixed in multiplayer, I'm going to use this on the obsidian tower I'm building." < 1295104438 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with buckets in multiplayer? < 1295104461 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were a bit unreliable IIRC. < 1295104700 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly how mathematical is the average CS curriculum? < 1295104944 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295105644 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about average, but here it's: not very, unless you deliberately choose courses to make it so. < 1295106650 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295106836 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295107395 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, have you updated the server yet? < 1295107409 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in a good mood
< 1295107532 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1295107695 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295107844 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, does it turn out that KT-AT plays AW as well? < 1295107853 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1295107866 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I did show her Cybertown a while ago < 1295107869 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no. If that were the case, Sgeo would be far too busy being paralysed with joy. < 1295107870 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just briefly though < 1295107878 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, oh god. < 1295107924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTREMELY GOOD ADVICE: do NOT attempt to serenade her. Particularly not with "I see a red robe and I want to paint it black". < 1295107948 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if she was bored. I do know she was once bored when I was describing some computer thing. And it's not like we haven't done anything that bored me < 1295107988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you are only allowed to liveblog in the event of impending trollpocalypse. < 1295108029 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I ever mention the time that I took a journal to school and wrote about what happened as, or shortly after, it happened? < 1295108179 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1295108189 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like the most boring journal ever < 1295108218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particularly given Sgeo's academic career. < 1295108232 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not boring < 1295108234 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1295108241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. being sent to a 5th-rate college because his dad is a total smeghead. < 1295108241 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you'd think I was a pervert perhaps < 1295108249 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this was in highschool < 1295108275 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, o god please tell me you weren't writing down your fantasies. < 1295108299 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and please say they didn't involve urination < 1295108440 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, please tell me he wasn't writing down his urolagnic fantasies. < 1295108440 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1295108440 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: this program is linked into the market-o-matic, thinking that i claim no special effort to keep solaris his sign of the < 1295108456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295108456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295108456 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295108468 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, please tell me he wasn't writing down his urolagnic fantasies. < 1295108468 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: claimed that the victim) subject:re: `which foo` error message < 1295108503 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1295108509 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effing connection. < 1295108550 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today, 3/9/07, begins my �Era of Documentation�. A while ago, my Dad told me not to use LiveJournal as a private journal. I wish I disobeyed him sooner." < 1295108575 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have listened to him :/ < 1295108593 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here in turku it's even less mathematical than in helsinki < 1295108596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs < 1295108600 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this computer unable to competently hold onto a wireless network. < 1295108606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1295108632 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why no wired connection < 1295108641 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, when I'm on Linux and at school, I have the same problem < 1295108657 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Weetabix looks extremely gross :P < 1295108677 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, because I live in a hundred-year-old house and as such it was not designed with easy Ethernet cable access in mind. < 1295108677 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Here is a dense, solid block of cereal product. Digest it." < 1295108698 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh i know how that goes :/ < 1295108711 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, wait, you actually disobeyed your father over something> < 1295108720 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: no u look like a solid block < 1295108725 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since 2007 or so, all the time < 1295108743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, before or after you let him pick your college? < 1295108753 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly before < 1295108759 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Holy crap, it's Industrial Food Product. < 1295108771 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say I disobey him on everything < 1295108773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. More so than the rest of an American diet. < 1295108789 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just things like having my name on Facebook, talking to people about him, etc. < 1295108800 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, it's called Farmingdale. < 1295108802 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Farming. Dale. < 1295108829 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They thought "Farming" did not indicate how rustic they were. < 1295108839 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they stuck "dale" on the end. < 1295108843 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295108863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That alone should indicate that you ignore anyone who says it's a good place to study computers. < 1295108884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well computer science is a bit gay anyway < 1295108886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... He goes to a college called *Farmingdale*? < 1295108889 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1295108893 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like a knock-off social networking game < 1295108893 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Farming is not. < 1295108902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's a man's job! < 1295108905 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no, it's located in a place called Farmingdale < 1295108920 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, the point still stands. < 1295108929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what that was an argument for, exactly < 1295108943 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: And there's nothing more manly than a man in another man's embrace! < 1295108948 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295108953 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295108962 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: My intelligence informs me that it's SUNY Farmingdale, or formerly, Long Island Agricultural and Technical Institute. < 1295108968 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all give up computers, move to PA, stop shaving our beards, and farm! < 1295108997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Computer science is gay? Okay, then. Where's a phallus... < 1295108999 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, awful, isn't it. < 1295109013 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, it's... what I meant is that it's not called that because the college just decided "Hey, Farmingdale is an awesome name for a college", which is what I thought you meant. < 1295109054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Dear God man, you'd have a more respectible education at Devry. And those people ride the short bus! < 1295109065 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1295109065 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets offended at pikhq
< 1295109097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your dad offends my sensibilities! < 1295109100 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may be offensive...but he may be right... < 1295109108 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, he offends everyone's sensibilities. < 1295109116 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :respectable education is a bit gay anyway < 1295109120 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Except apparently Sgeo's. < 1295109131 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF5yBBf-1ps < 1295109136 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: My dad tells me he regularly has this conversation at work: "My son got into {Devry,University of Phoenix,Other Boxtop University}." "That's nice, my son is a doctoral student at Purdue." "*fume*" < 1295109142 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so it's not relevant at all, but it's funny. < 1295109158 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This video contains content from Channel 4, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." < 1295109168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ... Who would be *proud* of being a student at one of those boxtop universities? < 1295109168 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, NO SOUP FOR YOU < 1295109172 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you're slowly convincing me that I should go gay. keep it up and I'll soon be asking you to undress... < 1295109178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: My community college has stricter requirements. < 1295109202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm always naked when i'm on irc < 1295109208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Pencils are phallic, and we know what Freud has to say about phallic objects. < 1295109209 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at the pathetic Americans.
< 1295109220 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But ... he's some scrawny little Finnish twink :P < 1295109220 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dicks or GTFO < 1295109242 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And someone tell me what a boxtop university is. < 1295109245 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you have your hat on? < 1295109255 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Always! < 1295109263 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not at all scrawny < 1295109267 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: one you get a scholarship to by mailing weetabix tops < 1295109277 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1295109302 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: One of a few for-profit colleges which exist *largely* for the purpose of soaking up federal financial aid from students. < 1295109309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i was recently told i'm "surprisingly fat" when i told them my weight, i'm not sure how to interpret that < 1295109326 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to remember which boxtop university it is that's in the /mall/ in Portland.
< 1295109344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get into them if you are capable of breathing, just about, and their degrees have similar value to a high school diploma. < 1295109360 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apollo College, that's right. < 1295109378 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you go to college in a mall, then you need to reconsider your life decisions :P < 1295109385 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is there a way to confirm that my college isn't one of them? < 1295109402 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[It doesn't sound like one. I think] < 1295109411 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why, exactly, did your dad send you there? < 1295109412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: SUNY isn't one of them, it's just a piss-poor choice for you. < 1295109414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you don't have to move to find work after college, the mall and the uni have a deal < 1295109422 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because he's a smeghead" excepted. < 1295109423 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: X-D < 1295109466 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy commute + not as competitive < 1295109476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is competitive bad? < 1295109482 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i do happen to be naked at the moment, and for some reason my bathwater won't get above lukewarm today :/ < 1295109488 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish we had even the slightest bit of competition here < 1295109501 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you're on your computer in the bath? < 1295109516 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: my droid < 1295109520 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, my dad's convinced that I have difficulties getting homework done < 1295109535 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much as I wish I could say I thought he was wrong... < 1295109536 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's a bit like getting a CS degree from The Institute of Everything Un-Technical. Even if the institute is the best thing ever, *you're a fucking moron* for getting a CS degree there. < 1295109540 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("motorola milestone" in other parts of the world) < 1295109561 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: however, if you went to a competitive university, you might start doing homework, because it would have a point. < 1295109565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol, my dad's convinced that I have difficulties getting homework done ← I have difficulties getting homework done. Getting homework done doesn't matter. < 1295109569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point being the competition < 1295109607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i suppose you might drop out if you sucked ass < 1295109611 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what you meant < 1295109657 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: i recommend you transfer somewhere better at the earliest available opportunity < 1295109694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: at uni, it matters for the first few years tho < 1295109712 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that, you'll have your own research to do anyway, so homework is just a sidejob < 1295109715 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, not at Sgeo's. < 1295109757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well no but i mean whereever you'll go < 1295109767 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to < 1295109777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming Sgeo's university is as crappy as i hear < 1295109812 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the uni that's crappy, it's his program < 1295109878 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Holy crap they don't even *offer* computer science. < 1295109889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They offer "computer programming & information systems". < 1295109901 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, yes < 1295109909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had a CS program once < 1295109912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's also the case in turku :\ although partly because our math department has all the good cs < 1295109950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Data structures" is an optional class and it's 300 level! < 1295109959 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : They had a CS program once ← "once" < 1295109974 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires business classes! < 1295109979 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Data Structures is optional < 1295110015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm looking at the degree requirements. Only required in the "programming track". < 1295110045 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: BTW: data structures in most CS programs is a freshman course. < 1295110073 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....what? Seriously? < 1295110093 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you seriously need to transfer asap < 1295110140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And *holy God* the math requirements are light. < 1295110141 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get a Bachlor's here, and then do stuff at a more interesting place? < 1295110150 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, there are math requirements? < 1295110158 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calc I and "Probability methods". < 1295110170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calc 1 is like some precalc shit or? < 1295110179 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Most places I've looked, a CS degree gets you a math minor for free. < 1295110182 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: just transfer now and get a bachelor's elsewhere < 1295110186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here's the rules you learned in high school PLUS 5 MORE!" < 1295110193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's the first of three courses on the calculus of integrals and derivatives. < 1295110208 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i got a dual major with just like two or so more classes < 1295110227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, I'm getting a math degree for 3 extra credit hours. < 1295110239 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least around here you can't include the same course (credit-point-wise) in multiple "modules". < 1295110259 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: here you can :P < 1295110263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: But if I literally *didn't try*, I would have a math minor. < 1295110264 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1295110267 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So getting a second minor is automatical +20 or +30 credits or however much it was. < 1295110268 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1295110293 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Here it's entirely accepted practice. < 1295110294 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only require that you take X extra hours that aren't for the primary major < 1295110295 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's a bit problematical in fact when you're taking two minors (or a major and minor) that have a lot of overlapping classes, since you then need to invent credit points for the second. < 1295110306 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :electives are completely double-dippable < 1295110306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: It's the first of three courses on the calculus of integrals and derivatives. ← so you do polynomials and that's it? < 1295110324 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there's no way I could just get a Bachelor's here, and ..whatever the next thing is at Stony Brook? < 1295110326 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110331 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, you do 2 dimensional integrals and derivatives. And that's about it. < 1295110353 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 dimensional? < 1295110358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You would have serious trouble going into grad school with that. < 1295110364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's kinda weird there's actually no way to get a major from both math and cs, since there are just not enough courses < 1295110377 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, on functions of single arguments? < 1295110386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if you've done the stuff required for the degree, why can't you have it... < 1295110402 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what, so you mean you only work with f(x) rather than f(x,y)? < 1295110409 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah. < 1295110412 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1295110433 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, erm, here in Scotland you never even touch on multivariate functions. < 1295110447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Calc III covers calculus on multivariate functions. < 1295110483 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a course called multivariate functions, but it's given by a very old guy, so it's way too hard for everybody < 1295110489 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aand calc II is a mishmash of various topics that didn't get covered in calc I. < 1295110516 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAGH < 1295110517 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old dudes still think like students should actually work for the courses < 1295110527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like"? < 1295110532 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You can take "Foundations of Programming I" *or* "Programming in Visual Basic". < 1295110541 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is that a joke? :D < 1295110553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No. < 1295110558 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't stop laughing < 1295110568 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1295110579 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I can only conclude that it is educating farmers in CS applicable to sheep feeders. < 1295110589 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Frankly, I'd be worried about your courses *transferring*. < 1295110596 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's not even a CS degree! < 1295110635 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110680 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember how many universities there are in Edinburgh, fails.
< 1295110704 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1295110713 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's two. < 1295110731 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you in edinburg ph < 1295110743 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Edinburgh. And yes, I am. < 1295110747 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was there just recently, we could've played the bagpipe together < 1295110748 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1295110755 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110762 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bagpipes: WORST THING EVER < 1295110767 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295110774 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well eaten haggis then' < 1295110777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worn kilt < 1295110784 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never worn a kilt, either. < 1295110786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drinking beer < 1295110789 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having sex with sheep < 1295110798 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck do i know what you ppl do in your spare time < 1295110799 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Wales, you fool. < 1295110802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sry < 1295110826 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY < 1295110830 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bagpipes are great. < 1295110834 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost as good as accordions. < 1295110839 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're also required at Sgeo's school to take "Management Theories and Practices"... < 1295110841 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1295110850 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, not when you can't go anywhere near the city centre without hearing them! < 1295110855 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... He's required to take more business classes than math classes! < 1295110884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Your degree is a joke. < 1295110976 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, which college does he go to again? < 1295110987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i wonder if they teach Sgeo to mind his own business haha < 1295111003 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, why do you Americans not have universities? Why is it all colleges?) < 1295111004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SUNY Farmingdale. < 1295111026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And we do have universities; we just tend to refer to any degree-granting institution as a "college". < 1295111038 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including universities. < 1295111045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which do you regret more, going to fd or mentioning it here? :D < 1295111055 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to FD < 1295111069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there were some nice things social-wise < 1295111078 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIU colleges here are either constituents of universities or places that do some kind of vocational training. < 1295111094 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Colleges are *also* constituents of universities here... < 1295111105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: In addition to being any degree-granting institution. < 1295111109 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: And we do have universities; we just tend to refer to any degree-granting institution as a "college". // uhh ... no? < 1295111122 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yeah, I guess so ... implicitly. < 1295111131 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say "I go to college" even if you go to a university. < 1295111146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say "college degree" even if it's from a univeristy. < 1295111160 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You actually *call* it a college even if it's a university... < 1295111190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys have for-profit universities. < 1295111196 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1295111237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Arguably, even our public universities are for-profit. < 1295111241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usa has for-profit free food for the poor organizations < 1295111243 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, colleges are not universities < 1295111245 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1295111254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USA also has for-proift prisons. < 1295111277 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: inmates don't get to vote right? < 1295111288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It depends on the state, actually. < 1295111419 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Two states—Maine and Vermont—allow prison inmates to vote." < 1295111430 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for them < 1295111439 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inmates got the vote here thanks to the Charter( < 1295111462 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disenfranchisement is considered elsewhere to be part of the punishment for crime *shrugs* < 1295111471 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people actually cared about voting, then it would be a legit punishment :P < 1295111490 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that by denying inmates the right to vote, you effectively deny any useful commentary on the prison system < 1295111490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two states disenfranchise all felons. Even after their sentence is done. < 1295111502 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the only users of a prison get no say < 1295111504 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1295111513 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arizona and Texas? < 1295111518 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kentucky and Virginia. < 1295111522 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn :( < 1295111534 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds surprisingly liberal for texas < 1295111560 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas isn't completely *nuts*. < 1295111682 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push button, receive bacon < 1295111701 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is the justification "being tough on crime"? < 1295111728 0 :BMG!~behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1295111768 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@86.241.112.87.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295111771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yup! < 1295111771 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1295111779 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: Push button, receive weetabix D'AWWWW < 1295111780 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: most prison inmates never voted a day in their life, and even if they all did, they'd still be in the minority < 1295111805 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only old people that vote in the US. < 1295111834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the politics tends to trail decades behind. < 1295111836 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We vote with student riots in the U.K. < 1295111837 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence the AARP being the biggest most powerful PAC < 1295111853 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1295112070 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AARP and PAC? < 1295112142 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=old people's society and =lobbying organization < 1295112188 0 :BMG!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295112188 0 :BMG!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295112192 0 :BMG!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1295112234 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, that is quite possibly the most hilarious thing I have heard about US politics. < 1295112250 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your country. Is ruled. By an old people's organisation. < 1295112284 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the major politicians are old people too. at least the president is young < 1295112909 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295113045 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun "microcode error detected" from wlan card. rmmod and modprobe worked < 1295113189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAARRRRGGGGH my architecture has failed! < 1295113200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a spider on top of the shaft to my mines! < 1295113224 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha sucks to be you < 1295113457 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295113565 0 :cheater00!~cheater@g230230018.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1295114305 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1295114328 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, you came just too late. < 1295114334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god what did I miss. < 1295114397 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq was telling Sgeo that his college is the worst ever, in detail. < 1295114411 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Sgeo listen? < 1295114418 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Turns out they do more management courses than mathematical ones.) < 1295114418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:21:40 Wow, they already updated Painterly. < 1295114418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:21:50 That is astonishing. < 1295114421 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only 16x16. :p < 1295114629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I've never worn a kilt, either. <-- YOU'RE NO TRUE SCOTSMAN! < 1295114647 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nope. < 1295114718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:24:17 Wow, Weetabix looks extremely gross :P < 1295114718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:24:37 "Here is a dense, solid block of cereal product. Digest it." < 1295114720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAITOR OF WEETABIX < 1295114722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESTROYER OF SOULS < 1295114971 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295114985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:37:46 Easy commute + not as competitive ← wait, surely you could, y'know, live away from home. < 1295114998 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNTHINKABLE HIS DAD WOULD BEAT HIM INTO A BLOODY PULP < 1295115001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:32:52 oklopol: you're slowly convincing me that I should go gay. keep it up and I'll soon be asking you to undress... < 1295115002 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it's just like 2008! < 1295115052 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was never allowed to go to sleep-away camp as a kid < 1295115058 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents thought I wouldn't eat. < 1295115062 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, ... < 1295115076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They *thought* that. < 1295115085 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need live advice, people: do I laugh, or do I curl into a ball and cry on Sgeo's behalf? < 1295115088 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295115089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do both, but I need to know the order. < 1295115099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, Seth, you can't go to camp, you won't eat." "But I LIKE eating!" "Not at camp, you won't." < 1295115107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: simultaneously < 1295115112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it well-known that Sgeo doesn't actually like eating at all. < 1295115119 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What elliott said. < 1295115121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:36:25 pikhq, is there a way to confirm that my college isn't one of them? < 1295115122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:36:42 [It doesn't sound like one. I think] < 1295115122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me think... SUNY... STATE UNIVERSITY of New York ... hmm ... state university ... hmmmmmmmmmm < 1295115135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably an independent, for-profit corporation. < 1295115142 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why the hell did they think you wouldn't eat? < 1295115149 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a habit of not eating? < 1295115152 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1295115160 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You don't know this ...? < 1295115171 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1295115181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why exactly would I? < 1295115188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Because it comes up all the time? < 1295115193 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1295115198 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he just didn't sleep. < 1295115199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in Sgeoland. < 1295115212 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My sleep issues are relatively recent! < 1295115224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: next, breathing! < 1295115227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But my eating issues you can RELY on! < 1295115228 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on!" < 1295115270 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so you can't live in student accommodation because you won't eat? < 1295115296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can set up a bot to order you to eat at regular intervals < 1295115298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that would help < 1295115302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295115309 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My step-mom's convinced that my unwillingness to organize and throw stuff out in this messy house is an indication that I can't live on my own < 1295115317 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[My step-mom's crazier than my dad] < 1295115325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, Christ. < 1295115336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo's step mother has never seen student accommodation. < 1295115336 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell can someone be crazier than your dad? < 1295115341 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And believes it to be a place of cleanliness and perfection < 1295115388 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1295115394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're not allowed to date non-Jewish girls" "You're ill" < 1295115398 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that offer to kidnap your father is now extended to murdering your stepmother. < 1295115420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're not allowed to date non-Jewish girls" <-- bitch < 1295115430 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, *murdering your stepmother very painfully < 1295115439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a fork? < 1295115442 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta have the forks < 1295115456 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl, wtf < 1295115461 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when is Sgeo even Jewish? < 1295115474 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, dunno. < 1295115476 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She also says that that my mom wanted me to only date Jewish girls. While I think my mom would prefer it slightly, I don't think she was that strict about it" < 1295115481 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, the Jewish side of my family says things more like "You're not allowed to date Jewish girls." < 1295115525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why did you not just spit in her face at this point? < 1295115548 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spit ACID IN HER FACE < 1295115554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bonus points for not melting your tongue and gums firts < 1295115555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1295115660 0 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-61-41.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1295115664 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm not sure if it's been mentioned enough but you should transfer to another college right now before it's too late and you get a useless degree that gets you nowhere at all ever < 1295115666 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION now imagines Sgeo always wearing hasidic garb
< 1295115668 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just sayin' < 1295115672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA? < 1295115691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively drop out because you could just scribble some crayons on a piece of blank paper and get a degree of similar usefulness < 1295115698 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, say you're going on a date with KT-AT and NEVER COME BACK < 1295115709 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: TRYING TO OFFER SERIOUS LIFE ADVICE HERE < 1295115710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KTHX < 1295115769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure Sgeo is aware that he could just leave if he liked < 1295115784 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my degree is almost done! < 1295115784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'm not sure he's aware that it's the only sane option < 1295115791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1295115796 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, the degree will *decrease* your prospects. < 1295115798 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: And...then what? You're not gonna get into grad school with it ... < 1295115817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you transfer it's not like you're going to have to start at square one... < 1295115818 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even at another SUNY school? < 1295115826 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get a degree and then transfer? < 1295115830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no. < 1295115838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see, you get the degree when you *finish* college. < 1295115842 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You transfer while you are *in* college. < 1295115857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretend he doesn't have a degree? < 1295115873 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I do all the required courses for a degree, and just not get the degree? < 1295115880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1295115890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't just automatically give it to you < 1295115898 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1295115899 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Choice 1: (1) Finish useless degree. (2) Be unable to get into grad school. Choice 2: (1) Transfer to another college. (2) Finish good degree. (3) Get into grad school. Choice 3: what you said but why would you want to do that < 1295115925 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the senior project sounds like something I need to do. Have a real project. < 1295115941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there won't be any "real projects" in another college ... < 1295115947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[SARCASM ALERT] < 1295115996 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, wait, how long have you been at university for? < 1295115997 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like a drastic solution i know, but when all of #esoteric vehemently agrees...well, desperate times call for it < 1295116010 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, since beginning of 2008 < 1295116021 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1295116025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to get out of that shithole. < 1295116035 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so... 19? < 1295116046 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you said, sunk cost. best not to sink anymore < 1295116056 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd you do between leaving school and then? < 1295116060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if you sink... you DROWN < 1295116076 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. < 1295116085 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It felt like a summer that wouldn't end < 1295116104 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[I hate summers] < 1295116111 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, erm, you left school at 19? < 1295116120 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, um, hm < 1295116120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was one of those freakish year-long summers. < 1295116123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, 18 < 1295116131 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1295116142 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, just half a year < 1295116147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: do we need to go and tell sgeo to transfer in person < 1295116154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get plane tickets < 1295116159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all do this together! < 1295116161 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What were you doing that meant you sat around for the end of 2007? < 1295116175 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fuck that. that's more work even than filling out the transfer papers for him and hell if i'm doing that. < 1295116184 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, my step-mom and dad wanted me to go to Israel for a little while. That didn't happen. < 1295116190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, ... < 1295116192 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why. < 1295116193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295116197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: BECAUSE HE'S A GOOD JEW < 1295116208 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yeah, but he'll give us less horrific stories if he gets out of there, and that's worth anything. < 1295116250 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i suppose i would feel awful good about helping someone so desperately in need < 1295116260 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as long as you're buying the tix... < 1295116270 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1295116272 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what's your address < 1295116293 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere near farmingdale ny obviously < 1295116295 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already asked him < 1295116299 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't tell me < 1295116301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Farmingrusticruralpigagridaleshire. < 1295116306 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no shit sherlock < 1295116308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the rest of you people WHO I THOUGHT WERE MY FRIENDS < 1295116320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ok we'll meet him AT the college then < 1295116332 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, with some chloroform? < 1295116333 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know his name and what he looks like when dressed in a fursuit^Wblood drop costue < 1295116335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*costume < 1295116336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how my dad would react if he met you < 1295116349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: We'll never find out, because he'd be unconscious before he realised. < 1295116356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dad would like me < 1295116360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm very likable < 1295116363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :able babble < 1295116368 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dad would very much like me < 1295116369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :babel abble < 1295116383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah he and quinn could have a beer together < 1295116384 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he likes people who are smarter than him, right? < 1295116393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah totally that's why he treats Sgeo like a king < 1295116402 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what his head looks like when he's not in a bloodsuit. < 1295116409 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: okay, so, if we meet him at farmingdale, we need to throw him into the back of a truck < 1295116415 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and drive him to a good college < 1295116421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295116423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He wouldn't like me, because I am extremely insufferable. < 1295116426 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go up to the first official-looking person we see < 1295116427 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say < 1295116438 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This poor man was in SUNY FARMINGDALE." < 1295116443 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you rent the truck, i'll drive with my AMURRCAN driver's license < 1295116444 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And he didn't even KNOW the implications." < 1295116450 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will look horrified, and take him in. < 1295116462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how does that plan sound to you < 1295116471 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on < 1295116474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1295116480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll buy tickets tomorrow < 1295116483 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, clearly you should chloroform him because you are stunted by malnourishment and as such he will suspect nothing. < 1295116487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't people kidnap each other just for giggles anymore < 1295116490 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to see the look on the poor official looking person's face < 1295116502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SGEO KNOWS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE STUNTED BY MALNOURISHMENT < 1295116505 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i miss the good ol' days < 1295116525 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true. sgeo is mentally malnourished in farmingdale < 1295116537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:17:16 We vote with student riots in the U.K. < 1295116540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be the greatest voting system < 1295116548 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, naw, elliott is physically malnourished due to the Harrying of the North. < 1295116549 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WE DEMAND HIGHER PENSIONS FOR THE ELDERLY" < 1295116579 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that...is how politics works in the U.S. < 1295116587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are they all students < 1295116592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do they actually count as votes < 1295116602 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, of course not < 1295116605 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :votes are worth nothing < 1295116612 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :riots actually accomplish things < 1295116634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest a riot on sgeo's house < 1295116642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because i dunno how you'd vote in sgeo's house < 1295116673 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy < 1295116674 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, votes are made by bludgeoning Sgeo's father and stepmother. < 1295116678 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all go in there < 1295116688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sgeo doesn't live with his stepmother. < 1295116693 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we say "we're all having a vote on whether sgeo has to transfer" < 1295116698 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: THINGS I AM RAPIDLY TIRING OF: Remakes of random music in Minecraft. < 1295116699 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll even let his parents vote too < 1295116714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only his dad gets a vote < 1295116717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does Sgeo get to vote < 1295116718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1295116719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1295116722 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not tired of those yet < 1295116725 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, OK, different sides of Sgeo's father's body. < 1295116750 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: let's be fair and let everyone in the household vote. there can't be more than 5 of them and there are at least 20 of us... < 1295116759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: isn't it just Sgeo and his father. < 1295116763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you what we're going to vote < 1295116767 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't know < 1295116776 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, they can both vote, why not? < 1295116795 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would hate to be accused of being unfair < 1295116798 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just me and my dad < 1295116803 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it easier < 1295116805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye, going to meet up with KT-AT < 1295116809 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1295116816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you moved < 1295116818 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could move < 1295116820 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLOSER TO KTAT < 1295116834 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295116849 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So I've been thinking about yellowstone (Notch feckin stole blue for lapis). < 1295116855 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, PRETEND SHE KIDNAPPED YOU < 1295116876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The opening of this video is the most amazing thing ever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFrgDPCgGA < 1295116887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch it. You will not regret it. < 1295116937 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :D < 1295117065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opuQmQy87x4 < 1295117118 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fog is a wonderful thing < 1295117394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I have an idea for an RNG in Minecraft. < 1295117403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, using only existing blocks. < 1295117429 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are already some pretty compact ones. < 1295117485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Um, what? < 1295117491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: AFAIK nobody has made an RNG in Minecraft before. < 1295117493 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I mean -- < 1295117496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: One that seeds itself. < 1295117507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., if you run the circuit multiple times, you'll get different results. < 1295117510 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that one that was used for the creepy door. < 1295117513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you restore a save. < 1295117519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What door? Also, it probably had a predefined seed. < 1295117563 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend elsewhere has just said that Chrome logs your browsing history to Google. < 1295117573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your friend is wrong. < 1295117591 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See Preferences -> Under the Bonnet for an enumeration of all the communication Chrome does to Google. < 1295117592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: < 1295117593 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see, the dispenser is a block < 1295117602 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tohught it was some funny trick with the smelter < 1295117602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you put stuff in the address bar it tells Google, to get search results there. < 1295117614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also uses the phishing/malware protection that, sure, sends domain names. < 1295117618 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they aren't logged. < 1295117625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... when you get an error page it asks Google for some likely results. < 1295117628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of these are disableable. < 1295117645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If he disagrees, tell him to point you to the line in the source code where it communicates with Google. < 1295117693 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1295117699 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ? < 1295117748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I am VERY UPSET that you are not asking me about my amazing RNG idea! < 1295117761 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, OK, go on. < 1295117765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, because i was too lazy to ask myself < 1295117779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dispensers throw items a seemingly random distance. < 1295117785 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surround a dispenser with wooden pressure plates. < 1295117786 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set it off. < 1295117793 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use the resulting pressure plate patterns. < 1295117804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Issues: (1) Can't reset automatically, AFAIK. < 1295117807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) ? < 1295117814 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-uniform < 1295117817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you'd just use the result as a seed. < 1295117819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: naturally < 1295117822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to account for that < 1295117835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by weighting the value of each plate or whatever < 1295117849 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzERWnFoW54&feature=related < 1295117869 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking kiershar. < 1295117883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's because of minute lag in the redstone system. < 1295117887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. the game clock or something. < 1295117890 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1295117896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, yes. < 1295117907 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where dou find all this redstone stuff.. < 1295117911 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But if redstone wasn't buggy like that, then my idea would still work! < 1295117914 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: kiershar knows all. < 1295117945 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295118052 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1021&t=114491 < 1295118060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This pack looks awesome. < 1295118139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a university that has a program in game physics, that is, the whole program is just about reverse-engineering games in-game. would make much more sense than just physics, because instead of one uninteresting universe, you'd have all kinds of universes. < 1295118222 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and minecraft cosmology, we did a bit of that here the other day < 1295118233 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sociology of lemmings < 1295118243 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biology of Dogz < 1295118248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wow, Optimine is great. < 1295118250 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by editing the config files) < 1295118264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far/fancy without my fan going to 100% < 1295118299 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: those topics make sense within this universe, but i'm not sure biology of games would be very a coherent field < 1295118305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by physics, i meant all natural sciences < 1295118307 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wishes BiomeTerrain worked.
< 1295118345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe it might. < 1295118548 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even kidding about that in-game experimentation thing, i never understood the point of finding out stuff about this particular universe, it doesn't get much less interesting than this < 1295118581 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey you can move around, and if you work for hours you can make an object that's slightly better suited for bashing containers open" < 1295118582 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The genetics in Creature is pretty complex, from what I've read < 1295118586 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least as far as games go < 1295118588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh boy. There's a bloom filter fort he GLSL shaders mod :P < 1295118591 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Don't make Sgeo start < 1295118596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...than your hand < 1295118620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: and even better, you actually get to try them out < 1295118625 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike on earth < 1295118648 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can do it on earth, too < 1295118652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically yes < 1295118653 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just takes longer than a day < 1295118657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also build a computer in minecraft < 1295118664 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who the fuck would, after it's been tested once, tho < 1295118665 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I've read < 1295118671 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1295118673 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1295118678 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a MUSIC BOX < 1295118692 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got so lost my saved game as become 20 megabytes < 1295118709 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1295118724 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to wander too far if I don't have a tunnel near < 1295118741 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=107720 YESSSSS < 1295118750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, only? < 1295118765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, my local world1 is about 100 MB iirc < 1295118781 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world2 and world3 are about 25-30 MB iirc < 1295118781 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is only 8 so far :c < 1295118781 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, it has hardcoded side-grass. Lame. < 1295118782 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: O_O < 1295118789 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(each) < 1295118790 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, I do spend a time making my lair pretty < 1295118804 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, my local test server world: 110 MB < 1295118825 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what the hell do you *do*? :P < 1295118844 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, build (mega-scale). Explore. Spelunk < 1295118848 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1295118851 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, remember I play on peaceful. < 1295118871 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You pansy :V < 1295118871 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, night is just a minor light level inconvenience to me thus < 1295118885 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, well sure :P < 1295118911 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to man up, and spend every night cowering in fear in your lair! < 1295118916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: try mcregion to get smaller files < 1295118918 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1295118920 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also speed things up < 1295118925 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: optimine + mcregion = awesome fast < 1295118965 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF a creeper just jumped off a cliff to get me < 1295118972 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, ouch < 1295118997 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is a suicide bomber, j-invariant < 1295119000 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does he care! < 1295119015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=107720 < 1295119015 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, idea: creepers able to build 1x1 towers of dirt to reach you < 1295119016 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295119018 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=107720 < 1295119019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ermmfsdogmsgflk < 1295119022 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X32nuDEvw-4 < 1295119031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all enemies should be able to mine and build just like you < 1295119032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1295119037 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1295119056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think how neato, you'd never be safe if they get your scent < 1295119078 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimine + mcregion + mipmapping + better light = fuck yeah < 1295119083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you walk on the surface during the day, they'll start digging near that area < 1295119091 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, if you are inside a obsidian structure? < 1295119094 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, with no door < 1295119097 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you are safe < 1295119098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well you basically have to be < 1295119100 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need something special to mine those bricks tht look like coal but white? < 1295119105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: what < 1295119107 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS THIS #minecraft < 1295119107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ??? < 1295119109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coal but white? < 1295119110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot < 1295119112 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're safe unless they find diamond < 1295119123 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, hah < 1295119131 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have the whole night to look for it < 1295119132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Phantom_Hoover just scared me into thinking that accidentally today < 1295119135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: imo i think just zombies should mine < 1295119135 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you can mine away obsidian at lower than that < 1295119140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepers explode, skeletons fire arrows, zombies mine < 1295119146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all they look like us and we can mine, and have no special power now < 1295119147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s only logical < 1295119148 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, just you won't get any obsidian blocks dropped < 1295119155 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it, every night, a thousand creatures are born that have all the powers of a player, that try to kill you < 1295119159 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are zombies, though < 1295119164 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would need like < 1295119166 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil dudes < 1295119168 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not dead people < 1295119191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: They can move and jump and punch, so they can mine. < 1295119194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They punch you) < 1295119215 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back. < 1295119221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: except somehow i think they would necessarily be a bit less smart than the player < 1295119232 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Should I enable Better Grass or not. < 1295119238 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO HARD TO DECIDE < 1295119238 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternatively < 1295119243 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SOMEHOW just got a stack of 65 < 1295119244 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can try it multiplayer < 1295119244 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1295119246 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And wage war < 1295119260 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm not even kidding about that in-game experimentation thing, i never understood the point of finding out stuff about this particular universe, it doesn't get much less interesting than this < 1295119263 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, what? < 1295119280 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't even know how it works, and what we do know about that is very interesting. < 1295119305 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start, a fair bit of new mathematics has come from physics. < 1295119309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual dynamics are not at all interesting < 1295119313 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In modern times.) < 1295119325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, define "interesting". < 1295119339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit subjective, but i'm sure you all agree < 1295119349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why people play minecraft instead of football < 1295119358 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, erm, what is so boring about quantum physics? < 1295119381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum physics is not something you can actually do stuff with < 1295119390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can < 1295119393 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1295119395 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYTHING < 1295119395 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guys talking about reality? < 1295119399 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or minecraft? < 1295119399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, if you've built a computer in minecraft < 1295119401 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: HOLY FUCK CREEPER IN THE DAY < 1295119431 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day creepers are the worst man < 1295119434 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the essential reason that we study the way this universe works rather than artificial ones is because a) this one is the one we actually live in and b) we don't actually know how this one works, unlike any artificial ones we make. < 1295119434 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or < 1295119440 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a day creeper just kille dme < 1295119444 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural caves creeprs :c < 1295119457 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I die, I'm not getting my stuff bck < 1295119465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was day on the FIRST DAY < 1295119467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably from a cave < 1295119467 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: we certainly do not know how the artificial ones work either < 1295119476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on a macro level < 1295119477 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes, we do. < 1295119480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: GoL < 1295119481 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me how it works < 1295119483 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a macro level < 1295119484 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a species, at least. < 1295119494 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hey < 1295119496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some mod i have < 1295119498 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one really knows anything about gol < 1295119499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has evidently fixed side grass < 1295119499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1295119499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1295119502 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And working bottom-up is not what we are doing with reality. < 1295119503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/YlDro.png < 1295119504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :badly < 1295119507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1295119508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what did it < 1295119511 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is extremely obvious. < 1295119633 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what are interesting are the methods of going top-down, and how simple things turn into macro-things. both can be done separately with artificial models, except you don't have to own a university to be able to do that, and you're not restricted by whatever god chose to include! < 1295119642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The most recent update was on January 15th, and is henceforth known as the Community Appeasement Grab Bag Edition MK II. This update adds nearly 100 new tiles and skins, for the 1.2 beta patch. " < 1295119645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly 100???? < 1295119692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, innumerable variants. < 1295119707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oak is the normal tree type, right? < 1295119711 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at the customiser, and it had added a Chinese theme. < 1295119720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omg, finally, I can replace the fucking fugly birch tree bark. < 1295119779 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH MY SAVE DISAPPEARED ENTIRELY < 1295119779 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: pastebin.ca has been for over a week... Is there any chance you could upload your BF Joust interpreter elsewhere? < 1295119782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :-( < 1295119785 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1295119787 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Save of what? < 1295119790 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't get the problems you do. < 1295119791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft. < 1295119792 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MC. < 1295119797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: use egojoust, it's fairer < 1295119798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hitting every edge case! < 1295119808 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you have jumped on the bandwagon? < 1295119810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't get on the server < 1295119814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, I helped him pirate it. < 1295119816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's not updated yet. < 1295119820 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, what? < 1295119824 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, snap to it. < 1295119826 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: People who like dark wood textures have a brain disease: discuss. < 1295119826 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I saw you join < 1295119828 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then part < 1295119838 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, downgrade minecraft and use a non-updating launcher < 1295119839 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I use the dark wood textures! < 1295119840 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my next purchase when I have expendable income. < 1295119842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right so i should've prevented update as well? shit < 1295119848 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Umm, why do you hate humanity? < 1295119848 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: naw < 1295119850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I haven't < 1295119854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: just play locally for now < 1295119859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the update is well worth it. < 1295119863 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but playing locally is totally gay! < 1295119864 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1295119866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: (Actually I'm going to try dark wood.) < 1295119867 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what, exactly, is wrong with dark wood? < 1295119878 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you use the brick-planks or the line-planks? < 1295119895 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *Part* of the problem is that Minecraft and an IME do not interact at all. < 1295119897 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On-the-line. < 1295119901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So disable the IME :P < 1295119909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, I closed it. < 1295119910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'll try it ... this once... < 1295119927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, which sandstone texture should I use? < 1295119929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: But, yeah. That's only going to come up for East Asian-language-speakers. < 1295119933 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I haven't got there yet! < 1295119941 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295119947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Moar sign options! < 1295119948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I group them only because their *technological* requirements are very similar) < 1295119951 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing too, I don't like the bordered-sign. < 1295119959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bordered sign. < 1295119963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so umm, can i change textures by just changing some sort of pic files < 1295119965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: DO YOU USE LIGHT OR DARK STONE < 1295119975 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark, obviously. < 1295119977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you want to make your own pack? < 1295119980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why obviously. < 1295119982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295119984 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do < 1295119991 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because light is unspeakably hideous. < 1295119998 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need some iron < 1295119999 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are plunged into an ocean of beige. < 1295120001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Texture_Pack < 1295120007 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: look at that list of modifiable files < 1295120011 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: copy them all out of minecraft.jar < 1295120013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: make a zip file < 1295120015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: put them all in < 1295120017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :name it something < 1295120020 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy it into a new folder < 1295120023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%APPDATA/.minecraft/texturepacks < 1295120027 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and edit terrain.png inside the zip < 1295120031 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also other files, but terrain.png is all the blocks < 1295120042 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you _can_ change them direct in the jar but this is more maintainable < 1295120055 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, beige is nice < 1295120057 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I... need a screenshot of your setup with both stone and wood, because it sounds horrifically dark. < 1295120059 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, remember that stupid basic texture pack for slow computers. < 1295120064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that sounds like *seconds* of work < 1295120070 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's no darker than the default. < 1295120076 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you can use a stone pickaxe to get iron < 1295120077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I NEED SCREENSHOT (also, wood is). < 1295120089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Dude, I found iron on my third in-game day... < 1295120094 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are mining terribly :P < 1295120117 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295120184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sec. < 1295120200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft: http://i.imgur.com/ZODJz.gif < 1295120246 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so is your texture pack done < 1295120257 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/7kp9M < 1295120271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THAT PICTURE: Stone < 1295120315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's 30m up from the ground. Of course there's no stone. < 1295120324 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But I asked for stone! < 1295120332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISAPPOINTED PLEASE GIVE SCREENSHOT WITH STONE < 1295120335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, where IS that? < 1295120341 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, SSP. < 1295120356 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://imgur.com/B7BTZ < 1295120358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can i have alpha color everywhere < 1295120362 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than the ocean of beige. < 1295120371 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: looks like gravel < 1295120373 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not on every block i don't think < 1295120383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: with leaves you can have full alpha, dunno about half < 1295120387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and ice is half-transparent or whatever < 1295120392 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: btw changing water/lava does not work < 1295120398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to use this fancy mcpatcher thing to do that but whatever < 1295120410 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also the blocks at the bottom are the digging animation, you can use any greyscale there < 1295120418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mining animation < 1295120435 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So ocean of grey > ocean of beige? :P < 1295120440 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1295120445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beige is the wost colour. < 1295120448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worst < 1295120456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I like beige. Wait, do you use dark cobblstone too? < 1295120459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cobblestone < 1295120481 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're a tetrachromat, and since that requires you to be female, there's not much chance of that. < 1295120482 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes. < 1295120496 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: I like beige. Wait, do you use dark cobblstone too? <-- I like beige as well < 1295120500 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We are ... no longer friends. < 1295120502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, < 1295120503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1295120505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOTALLY FEMALE < 1295120507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :elliott < 1295120513 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, _chromosomally_ female. < 1295120527 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got chromosome reassignment surgery. < 1295120537 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295120544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And became a tetrachromat in the process! < 1295120560 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so clearly you regressed to a zygote and regrew? < 1295120573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think that's a fetish, but no. < 1295120576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They changed them in-place. < 1295120583 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, your eyes? < 1295120589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My chromosomes. < 1295120593 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then. < 1295120596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So my eyes changed obviously, because they had new chromosomes now. < 1295120598 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not how biology works. < 1295120611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh really? Then why am I a tetrachromat? < 1295120640 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your body doesn't go "oh, look, the DNA changed. Must bring phenotype up to date, then." < 1295120684 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does. < 1295120686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want Lapis Lazuli ground into a powder for dyes." Ooh... < 1295120721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What redstone wire do you use? < 1295120725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ornate one looks cool. < 1295120738 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I switched to it because I'm a sucker for ornateness. < 1295120753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hopefully you can agree that the Painterly chests and doors are hideous, though. < 1295120761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CANNOT DO THAT IN 16 PIXELS WITHOUT LOOKING HIDEOUS < 1295120771 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ornate ones? < 1295120782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Which is all of them. < 1295120793 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the light wood ones are good < 1295120798 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295120819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Give me Chinese-style windows." UGLIEST < 1295120826 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Which sandstone option is most realistic. < 1295120832 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the chests and doors are nice on the default. < 1295120842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I went for bricks since I'm used to seeing it used for that. < 1295120851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Original cloth of woven cloth?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! < 1295120852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*or < 1295120866 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Smooth-topped? < 1295120879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brick topped. < 1295120883 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm considering changing that. < 1295120896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smooth-topped sandstone columns look nice... but I'll stick with the default for now. < 1295120903 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT WHICH CLOTH < 1295120912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the woven cloth. < 1295120931 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stitched-edge. < 1295120946 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally "I would like BARONS DEF CHARGER'S woven cloth texture", even despite the name. < 1295120956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's the one I've been usin' too. < 1295120957 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want a metal creeper insignia ornate monster spawner cage." < 1295120958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES PLEASE. < 1295120975 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295120996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Change my wood door into an unstained light wood door." ;; I would use this one if it were darker. < 1295121055 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Chocolate cake, I hope. < 1295121061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want my sugar in a bag like civilized people." < 1295121061 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? No. < 1295121071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are you even human? < 1295121075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that cocoa beans are a probable addition. < 1295121085 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *The Minecraft cake is chocolate*. < 1295121088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the cake in Portal is chocolate. < 1295121094 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ...it is? < 1295121101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To which? < 1295121113 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1295121133 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, Notch *said* it was chocolate, and the sponge is dark enough for it. < 1295121139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, the cake in Portal is chocolate. < 1295121140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://theknittingdefective.typepad.com/.a/6a0115714ad401970c011572419026970b-800wi < 1295121152 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better shot: http://honestcake.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/portal_and_there_will_be_cake.jpg < 1295121171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT PAINTING OPTIONS DO YOU USE < 1295121179 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like a plastic cake. < 1295121180 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monet. < 1295121187 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use pastel bedrock. < 1295121195 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urgh, ugly. < 1295121203 0 :pingveno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1295121206 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Give me an ink sac, straight from the squid." Disgusting; I'll take the splatter. < 1295121246 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you, default choice, my chickens are CHICKENS. < 1295121279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who use glowing-eyed creepers are abortions: discuss. < 1295121294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use glowing-eyed creepers! < 1295121294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, people who use anything other than "Give me a Creeper that looks more like the original!" are probably Nazis. < 1295121300 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON. < 1295121320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue sea squid <3 < 1295121330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAPPY CHEST < 1295121332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*GHAST < 1295121353 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do NOT confuse chests and ghasts. < 1295121370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What game cursor do you use. < 1295121375 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pixel. < 1295121381 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I hate you. < 1295121385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CROSS DAMMIT CROSS < 1295121396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS < 1295121401 0 :pingveno!~pingveno@c-98-246-133-8.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295121431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LATEST UPDATE: < 1295121431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.1.10_01 - Fixed custom water/lava for beta 1.1_02 < 1295121437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, I wonder if it'll work on 1.2_01. < 1295121439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S FIND OUT < 1295121484 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The custom water/lava options are disabled. < 1295121484 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1295121485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sad. < 1295121492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use default water for now ... < 1295121516 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but anyway, that basic texture back thing has been taken down because noöne donated to it. < 1295121519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope whatever's causing that fucked-up side grass goes away. < 1295121521 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :-D < 1295121533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, the brick background on the title screen is ugly. < 1295121617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The "radios" are jukeboxes, right? < 1295121623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : People who use glowing-eyed creepers are abortions: discuss. I use glowing-eyed creepers! <-- i am starting to see a trend here... < 1295121632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is the worst person. < 1295121661 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I left them as jukeboxes because I am lazy. < 1295121676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ornate dispenser so ugly oh my god < 1295121691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles
< 1295121695 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want an industrial simple dispenser." is nice. < 1295121723 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You at least use "I want cobblestone with larger individual stones.", surely? < 1295121725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the DEFAULT? < 1295121736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1295121741 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, wait. < 1295121742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew. < 1295121744 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1295121753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And marble half blocks? < 1295121755 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I use tiles. < 1295121760 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And marble half-blocks. < 1295121767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least you're human in one area. < 1295121779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tell me you agree that Phantom_Hoover's texture pack options are insane. < 1295121782 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is half-creeper < 1295121796 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:05 < AliG> I is here with my man and we ares chattin about something well important, math. < 1295121799 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:05 < AliG> What is math? < 1295121801 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1295121801 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "I want to use the flat Painterly lapis lazuli block." yes? < 1295121805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: xD < 1295121814 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, slab. < 1295121823 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think you should die. < 1295121828 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I picked all the dyes in bowls, before you ask. < 1295121833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quickly, in fact. < 1295121842 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he said die, not dye < 1295121848 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295121871 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats oerjan ----###
< 1295121889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRR, that stupid grass problem hasn't fixed itself. I need to repatch everything. < 1295121911 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Holy shit, what coal ore do you use, the default dark stone coal ore is amazingly bad. < 1295121916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has... yellow edges... < 1295121943 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coal with extra sulphur, clearly < 1295121955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mipmapping + painterly = love < 1295121965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game looks fucking amazing. < 1295121994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I used the default coal ore because it was that or beige or strangely machined coal chunks. < 1295122048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Dude, it's grey, not beige. < 1295122066 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just say now that Painterly dirt tiles terribly. < 1295122149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pastebin.ca down for good? < 1295122156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't worked on any of my recent attempts to access it < 1295122196 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i doubt it < 1295122200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was up only a few days ago < 1295122211 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: filebin has been down forever, though < 1295122258 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1295122276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, I implemented tsort for changesets < 1295122286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably wildly inefficient < 1295122292 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I have installed Optimine, mipmapping, MCPATCHER, Better Light and Painterly. < 1295122301 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You don't need mcpatcher. < 1295122303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's lowercase. < 1295122309 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not? < 1295122311 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Just put it in texturepacks? < 1295122314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's native texture pack support now. < 1295122319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcpatcher is only required for custom water and lava. < 1295122322 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which don't work right now. < 1295122324 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also HD packs. < 1295122325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still does basic water and lava. < 1295122326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Painterly is not. < 1295122330 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Animations that it.) < 1295122334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...fail. < 1295122335 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1295122342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it doesn't? < 1295122342 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Those buttons just make it use the DEFAULT Minecraft water/lava. < 1295122353 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO BETRAYED < 1295122354 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until custom water/lava are reenabled, mcpatcher does nothing for non-HD packs. < 1295122370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does your side-grass get coloured weirdly, too? < 1295122392 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just Notch-quality engineering. < 1295122423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use biome compliance unless you like ugliness. < 1295122460 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I *didn't*. < 1295122470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And it also happened with the default pack. < 1295122486 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The problem is that it's colouring the dirt parts too for some reason according to the biome. < 1295122487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Default is biome-compliant. < 1295122508 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, I have no idea what you're talking about. < 1295122542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://i.imgur.com/YlDro.png < 1295122544 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: See? < 1295122554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just you. < 1295122561 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, that's some mod. < 1295122573 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, get rid of it! < 1295122625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I INSTALLED THE SAME MODS AS YOU. < 1295122628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :green dirt looks nice imo < 1295122647 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't know, then! < 1295122651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, you forgot mcregion. < 1295122654 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove bin and try again! < 1295122703 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1295122776 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah, 64+64+20. < 1295122777 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*clay. < 1295122793 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295122863 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Respawned - half the clay returned - but still in my inventory - fuck yea < 1295122889 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clay is really only good as an æsthetic thing... < 1295122891 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh wow, it is comical how bad the game looks without mipmapping and Better Light. < 1295122942 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think that stint with side-grass-that-looks-like-pure-grass has convinced me that either Better Grass or Painterly's 1/1 grass option are awesome. < 1295122976 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1295123038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do beaches usually have a ton of brown mushrooms on them? < 1295123044 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1295123053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sometimes you get a massive cluster. < 1295123100 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Notch hasn't hired Scaevolus yet; discuss. < 1295123128 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/f2wvt/is_this_a_secret_fallout_puzzle_it_looks_like_a/ < 1295123128 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scaevolus? < 1295123128 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1295123130 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know < 1295123131 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1295123137 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The author of Optimine and mcregion. < 1295123143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: A part of Optimine was included in 1.2. < 1295123144 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1295123147 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe its not a message and is just a bunch of keys for lockers.. < 1295123157 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1295123162 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: PSHT WHAT SILLINESS < 1295123200 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if it IS a code, surely you could figure it out pretty quickly, at least if it were binary, morse, baudot, ... < 1295123225 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: >expecting intelligence from /r/gaming < 1295123229 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1295123241 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/f2wvt/is_this_a_secret_fallout_puzzle_it_looks_like_a/ <-- nice myst reference in the comments :D < 1295123247 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295123263 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing its the first comment so i was guaranteed to see it as i read the comments. < 1295123275 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295123316 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Wait what, MC can still read my McRegion save. < 1295123333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok its time to watch some lectures on the russian revolution < 1295123346 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more of a discussion < 1295123379 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. nevermind. this is boring and short < 1295123379 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, conversion hasn't happened yet? < 1295123388 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I started a new mcregion game. < 1295123413 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still getting FPS drops. < 1295123461 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hmm, I'ma skip Better Grass, since Painterly has an equivalent as a texture option. < 1295123474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: (OK, so with Better Grass I'd get 2/3 instead of 1/1 when there's dirt below, but I always thought that looked weird.) < 1295123487 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting dirt below a grass block should not cause it to lose grass! < 1295123509 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: im making a tagging app < 1295123513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: for what < 1295123641 0 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1295123650 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Dude, I just did it all from scratch. < 1295123651 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1295123665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Optimine -> McRegion -> Mipmapping -> Better Light, in that order. < 1295123673 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Side grass dirt is still biome-tinted. < 1295123675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1295123679 0 :Tritonio_GR!~TrT@athedsl-258916.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123682 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1295123697 0 :Mathnerd314_!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how would you recommend handling the fact that there are different types of change? one type for files (lists of lines), one type for directories (sets of directory entries), etc... < 1295123707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in scapegoat < 1295123736 0 :Mathnerd314_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Mathnerd314 < 1295123797 0 :augur_!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *blink* mcpatcher JUST GOT UPDATED. < 1295123809 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*This very second*. < 1295123814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has custom water/lava now. < 1295123822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So tick custom water/lava, detick animated water/lava, and ENJOY < 1295123824 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, elliott, if you said anything after my response i didnt see it < 1295123825 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1295123830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: im making a tagging app < 1295123830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : augur: for what < 1295123852 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so you didnt get my answer < 1295123853 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what tagged: files, urls, text; what os: mac; what purpose: nothing does precisely what i like < 1295123868 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate tagging. < 1295123878 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1295123885 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1295123888 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taggint < 1295123911 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-215-160.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295123918 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh? < 1295123940 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you organize your ideas and stuff you find interesting and so forth? < 1295123965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc :P ... in practice i use a file system < 1295123969 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in @ it's basically based on search < 1295123993 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU, it seems that mcpatcher's custom water/lava overrides mipmapping. < 1295124035 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So I'll have to copy the custom files into minecraft.jar myself. < 1295124064 0 :p_q!~poiuy_qwe@69.157.44.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295124101 0 :cheater-!~cheater@g230230018.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1295124158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, here's what I'll do: Optimine -> McRegion -> Mipmapping -> Better Light -> manual copy of custom water files. (If that does in fact work.) < 1295124163 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1295124167 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't solve the side grass issue. < 1295124184 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, seriously, screenshot some damn side-grass for me, I do not believe that you do not see the issue with these mods. < 1295124193 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, i use a file system too, but my organizational habits arent well adapted to file systems < 1295124193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What order did you install them in? You realise some of them overwrite the others? < 1295124208 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no it doesn't. < 1295124213 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Nobody's are. But nobody likes tagging either, and you'll slip doing it eventually. < 1295124216 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No it doesn't what? < 1295124224 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: will not! :| < 1295124230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used delicious right up to the end < 1295124234 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was like four years worth < 1295124240 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious still exists, you know < 1295124255 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but its supposedly closing < 1295124269 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1295124280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1295124281 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1295124282 0 :Tritonio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1295124308 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they changed their plans < 1295124308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no it isn' < 1295124308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1295124309 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yahoo are selling it < 1295124309 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has always been the case < 1295124310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITT: believing everything you hear on reddit < 1295124310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then not seeing follow-up posts < 1295124311 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok, well they were supposedly just closing < 1295124312 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, i want tags for my files and for ideas too, not just links < 1295124312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on one slide from a presentation that never actually said that. < 1295124313 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :files are useless. < 1295124314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do not what. < 1295124315 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, mipmapping still works. < 1295124333 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: files are useful! < 1295124334 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have lots of them < 1295124334 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you! < 1295124335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: They are not useful. < 1295124344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Please tell me what order you installed mods in. < 1295124344 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1295124350 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Also, be aware that I'm using the new mcpatcher which was updated at 8:25 pm. < 1295124354 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is not the version you used. < 1295124395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://catseye.tc/ehird/files-suck.html is a very whiny and very incomplete page, but it's more than you'd get out of me right now while I'm busy bugging Phantom_Hoover. < 1295124396 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I used the mcpatcher which just came out. < 1295124403 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"very whiny" < 1295124406 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Are you going to give me the order of mods...? < 1295124417 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Or so I hear. Apparently italics are whiny, I use a lot of them. < 1295124435 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Optimine, mcregion, mipmapping, Better Light + Grass, mcpatcher. < 1295124437 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just commenting more on you commenting your own shit as whiny < 1295124453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I didn't think it was whiny until everyone informed me it was. :p < 1295124461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x3 < 1295124470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You mean that with Better Grass, which turns all the side of grass blocks into grass, you don't see tinted dirt? HOLY SHIT YOU'RE KIDDING ME < 1295124472 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW AMAZING < 1295124479 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's because there IS NO DIRT? < 1295124484 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, erm, no. < 1295124489 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What. < 1295124553 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better Grass leaves some blocks with the default side grass texture. < 1295124555 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are fine. < 1295124565 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: MATRIX DIRT?! < 1295124575 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Screenshot, please. Also, what checkboxes did you tick in mcpatcher? < 1295124589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: BTW, I suspect Better Grass is still the culprit, in that it probably overwrites the offending code entirely. < 1295124596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Less talking, more reading! < 1295124660 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295124681 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it sounds like you want an Alto. < 1295124699 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes, please. < 1295124703 0 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-10-158.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295124703 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1295124710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: (Even Multics, the big behemoth predating Unix, had a form of orthogonal persistence.) < 1295124710 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i agree with everything you said. < 1295124715 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295124726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: And so you should use @! < 1295124727 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has someone told you that TeXnicard is used by writing Underload-like programs? I will tell you now that it is only partially true. < 1295124730 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats @ < 1295124739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: My pipe-dream OS of amazingness. < 1295124765 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: It got a remarkably solid design a while ago, which I then completely liquefied by thinking about it some more. < 1295124771 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: checkboxes! < 1295124777 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you use pipes with it? < 1295124783 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No. < 1295124788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strictly forbidden. < 1295124803 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a friend of mine is creating an OS < 1295124805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is mulling it over < 1295124813 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then why did you call it pipe-dream OS? And how can it be used without pipes? < 1295124817 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295124817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: It's probably shit. @ has features such as being awesome, which is the opposite of the feature of being shit. < 1295124828 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been pushing for a completely radical rethinking of how it should work < 1295124829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define:pipe-dream < 1295124835 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Custom water, IIRC. < 1295124844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: @ is what happens when you radically rethink radical rethinking. < 1295124847 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically where everything is data-oriented instead of application oriented < 1295124851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It is important which animated box you ticked. < 1295124856 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: @ had that from version 0.1... < 1295124856 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :outside the box < 1295124863 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good! < 1295124865 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295124869 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ is INSIDE THE CARDBOARD COMPRISING THE BOX < 1295124870 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, lava. < 1295124872 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fire. < 1295124879 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But not water? Hmm. < 1295124886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How are you sure that mipmapping still functions? < 1295124887 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what language are you writing it in? < 1295124911 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, because things in the distance look nice. < 1295124916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: @lang. (I'm not kidding. Both @ and @lang are, of course, placeholder names; @ has also gone by ElliottOS in the past in here.) < 1295124919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You could just be blind. < 1295124930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, I'll retry in a minute... < 1295124931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I still suspect Better Grass, though. < 1295124931 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to have many commands acting like filters so that you can use pipes for everything. < 1295124940 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whats @lang like < 1295124947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: You know Haskell? < 1295124951 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little! < 1295124968 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Imagine if Haskell decided to stop being practical and became completely and utterly hardcore, thus ensuring it could never reasonably interact with existing systems. < 1295124973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: That's @lang. < 1295124990 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought haskell WASNT practical :( < 1295124998 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: @ itself is actually written in two languages: x86-64 assembly, and @lang. < 1295125019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: The assembly includes an efficient, parallel lazy specialiser for @lang (WARNING WARNING OPEN RESEARCH TOPIC WARNING). < 1295125024 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295125025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: This comprises the implementation of @lang. < 1295125034 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1295125038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: It also has task switching code and the security system. < 1295125047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Everything above that, including just about all hardware drivers, are written in @lang. < 1295125065 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, in @lang, you can write to any memory address you want, so long as you have permission to. < 1295125082 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course, you are unlikely to get such blanket permission; drivers will get permission to write to restricted regions of memory if they require it, but little else.) < 1295125129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How much convincing do you need to redo it all without Better Grass to see if that's the cure? < 1295125147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: You seem like you have lost interest! < 1295125153 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have. < 1295125160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you would actually have to pay me. < 1295125163 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: What did I say. :p < 1295125175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Was it "OPEN RESEARCH TOPIC"? < 1295125178 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something other than nothing < 1295125187 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Gee, thanks? < 1295125189 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i kid i kid < 1295125198 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you answered the question. < 1295125202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;__; INSUFFICIENTLY < 1295125217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: But there are so many INTERESTING DESIGN DECISIONS. < 1295125274 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295125286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I'm giving you ammo to make your friend redesign their OS here! < 1295125331 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1295125341 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295125342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1295125385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Psht, your tagging program is the worst ever, then. :p < 1295125454 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1295125494 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295125505 0 :p_q!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1295125517 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1295125560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I AM DISAPPOINTED IN YOU < 1295125561 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@69.157.44.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125575 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1295125580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psht! < 1295125590 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1295125616 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is #esoteric. < 1295125624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes I am. < 1295125634 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he were not here, this channel would have no properties in common with the channel as it is. < 1295125646 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every predicate true of it now would be false, and vice versa. < 1295125673 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: So if I left, the channel would not exist? < 1295125692 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful, you might say something you Kant < 1295125701 0 :acetoline!~acetoline@125-237-12-196.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125734 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would not exist, and the set of people in it would be the complement of the set of people currently in it. < 1295125739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try it out. < 1295125741 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1295125790 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the tunes.org logs still log this channel as it would be if elliott were still here. < 1295125804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295125804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125825 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125827 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do? Drat. < 1295125834 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you should probably join and then identify, not vice versa. < 1295125836 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do? < 1295125844 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, huh? < 1295125847 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME < 1295125851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I have a theory. That theory is that mipmapping doesn't work, at all. < 1295125855 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: How do you know, you weren't here. < 1295125859 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything false was true and vice versa! Except for some things. < 1295125867 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, it does. < 1295125871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Oh wait ... it briefly obeyed the property "is a gigantic space monster that eats everyone". < 1295125872 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but the set of people in this channel was equal to {tswett}. < 1295125875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It used to! But now it doesn't! < 1295125877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, new theory. < 1295125883 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it did. < 1295125883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mipmapping has to come before McRegion. < 1295125896 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, also, I should point out that I have no control over what XChat does. < 1295125902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you do. < 1295125905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specify a server password instead. < 1295125962 0 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295125972 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom__Hoover (~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486) has joined #esoteric < 1295125974 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1295126041 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295126049 0 :coppro!~scshunt@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126052 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does mindmapping have something more to it than categorizing in treeform and being restricted to a small amount of data in nodes? < 1295126061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I swear. Mipmapping does nothing. < 1295126061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no < 1295126061 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1295126065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um why would you want to join before identifying, wouldn't that temporarily reveal the cloak < 1295126070 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you talking about something other than the general concept :D < 1295126071 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, well NOW it does. < 1295126076 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's what he currently does < 1295126077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mipmapping < 1295126080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not mindmapping < 1295126083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1295126088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295126090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as mindmapping every time < 1295126093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295126093 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a 3d graphics thing < 1295126104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was kinda wondering why you'd be suddenly talking about that < 1295126105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know when you look at far away stuff on minecraft... actually you don't since you use tiny < 1295126108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you've ever used far, < 1295126111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you move your mouse left to right < 1295126113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see it warp around < 1295126118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of it scaling the texture down < 1295126118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i wanted to ask the question so didn't feel like googling for what you might actually mean < 1295126125 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mipmapping just uses less pixels in the texture the further away it is < 1295126128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning far-away stuff looks nice < 1295126136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less detailed, but nicer < 1295126138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when looking around < 1295126149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this warping is especially noticeable on the Stairs near spawn on the server) < 1295126164 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: was tswett doing that opposite thing when he suggested it, then? < 1295126173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Phantom_Hoover was suggesting the proper way < 1295126174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295126177 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tswett was suggesting the proper way < 1295126178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to Phantom_Hoover < 1295126183 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was doin it rong < 1295126188 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1295126188 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1295126192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is mipmapping the name of this technique, or some tool? < 1295126194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari = Vorpal < 1295126197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: name of the technique < 1295126206 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i think i've heard the term, maybe it was in that one book i read once < 1295126213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway that's kind of an obvious thing to do < 1295126215 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=128995 < 1295126222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as simple as just activating mip-mapping. < 1295126222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initially it looked really bad because some blocks looked broken. < 1295126222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass, for instance had black halos and was completely black in the distance. < 1295126222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed this by adjusting the alpha testing, so it discards everything with alpha < 0.5 instead of alpha=0. < 1295126222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what remains is that glass almost disappears in the distance. < 1295126226 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, water had a purple shade in the distance. < 1295126228 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fix for that is somewhat of a compromise: I clamp the mipmapping level so there's always at least one pixel per texture. < 1295126231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so technical :P < 1295126235 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh it improves fps too < 1295126237 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slightly < 1295126259 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The name is also derived from latin, so the technique is doubly awesome. < 1295126275 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure :P < 1295126287 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a technique, it's an obvious thing to do < 1295126297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also eats a bit more texture memory, but, well, nowadays cards seem to have gigabytes of it. < 1295126299 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh indeed it is < 1295126305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it come from < 1295126314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you still use tronic < 1295126319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okIn 3D computer graphics texture filtering, MIP maps (also mipmaps) are pre-calculated, optimized collections of images that accompany a main texture, intended to increase rendering speed and reduce aliasing artifacts. They are widely used in 3D computer games, flight simulators and other 3D imaging systems. The technique is known as mipmapping. The letters "MIP" in the name are an acronym of the Latin phrase multum in parvo, meaning "much in a < 1295126319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :small space". Mipmaps need more space in memory. They also form the basis of wavelet compression. < 1295126320 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: In 3D computer graphics texture filtering, MIP maps (also mipmaps) are pre-calculated, optimized collections of images that accompany a main texture, intended to increase rendering speed and reduce aliasing artifacts. They are widely used in 3D computer games, flight simulators and other 3D imaging systems. The technique is known as mipmapping. The letters "MIP" in the name are an acronym of the Latin phrase multum in parvo, meaning "muc < 1295126321 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h in a small space". Mipmaps need more space in memory. They also form the basis of wavelet compression. < 1295126327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worst name ever < 1295126330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUCH IN A SMALL SPACE MAPS < 1295126335 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking i'd pay a couple thousand for a computer in february, SO I NEVER HAVE TO BUY A NEW ONE AGAIN < 1295126341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope there isn't a flaw in my logic < 1295126348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About gigabytes, or about it using more? < 1295126354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Phantom_Hoover: you should probably join and then identify, not vice versa. < 1295126355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i can get parts for you, i'm GOOD at that! < 1295126363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i didn't do it for Phantom_Hoover because his budget was lame < 1295126367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already paying a friend to do that < 1295126367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a couple thousand euros i could do a lot with < 1295126370 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DARN < 1295126370 0 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126375 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll do it for free, and am more awesome? < 1295126383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're killing small businesses < 1295126384 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that work for free < 1295126385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like me < 1295126386 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he would do it for free < 1295126389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it working for free that's killing us < 1295126390 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1295126395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh. Weird. < 1295126435 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't tried MC post the 1.2 update at all; so I'm not sure how to answer. Theoretically speaking "yes, I'm still using Tronic"; but on the other hand the updater will wipe that, so maybe "no" is closer. < 1295126461 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, only very few packs are updated for the beta, but yeah that was what I meant (are you using it as of last time you played). < 1295126470 0 :Ilari_antrcomp!~user@2002:5870:38d7:1:20e:a6ff:fe6f:2288 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126482 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was, yes. < 1295126496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Information wants to be free!" -- obnoxious. slogan. < 1295126502 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-158.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, hypothesis. Mipmapping only works the first time you load a world. < 1295126531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he _was_ talking about predicates reversing truth value at about the same time though < 1295126541 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This theory holds up so far. < 1295126579 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ADDITIONAL FACT: Side-grass only looks weird in some biomes. < 1295126579 0 :BMG!~behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Travel to another, I bet you'll see the tinting. < 1295126586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A foresty one. < 1295126600 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why is it that mipmapping makes ladders white? < 1295126607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1295126617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, canya travel to another biome for me? < 1295126636 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even just compare grass block above dirt block. < 1295126639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dirt will *not* be the same colour. < 1295126703 0 :BMG!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295126703 0 :BMG!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295126708 0 :BMG!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1295126781 0 :Behold!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1295126829 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gkWnC < 1295126833 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH < 1295126856 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame Better Grass and holy shit whatever that four-block thing is, it is hideous, is that cobble? < 1295126867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get rid of that. < 1295126883 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Your 1/1-side-grass is seemingly not mip mapped. < 1295126895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1295126917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Look at the side grass in the distance. < 1295126922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare with the top grass. < 1295126926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho ho. Better Grass does indeed fix things. < 1295126942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...And? < 1295126948 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks mipmapped to me. < 1295126956 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff in the distance is fine. < 1295126969 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The side of grass blocks aren't. < 1295126975 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, they are. < 1295126978 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verified locally. < 1295127131 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Views like this make me want biome-compliant grass working properly on the side. Badly. http://ompldr.org/vNzA1Nw < 1295127134 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WARNING: PRETTY) < 1295127199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover exploded from the pretty. < 1295127235 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295127310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You get to appreciate it, then: http://ompldr.org/vNzA1Nw < 1295127466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION explodes too.
< 1295127537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How much is it bothering you that I didn't pick up the pumpkins beforehand? < 1295127999 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295128025 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Guest93753 < 1295128110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Guest93753. < 1295128123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can you please please please get ineiros to the requisite level of drunkenness to update to the stock beta server tonight? < 1295128136 0 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1295128146 0 :Guest93753!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1295128146 0 :Guest93753!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1295128181 0 :Guest93753!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom__Hoover < 1295128185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom ho kekekekekeke < 1295128237 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was supposed to, on Friday, but he went and got some sort of a flu thing and was too feverish for that. < 1295128243 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I just can't stop taking screenshots... http://ompldr.org/vNzA1Yg This is how Minecraft should come by default. < 1295128247 0 :aloril!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1295128250 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Fast, CPU-friendly, and absurdly pretty. < 1295128271 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I still get the FPS drops even with mcregion. < 1295128275 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we just need shader-powered colour light, like in that beautiful screenshot of the unreleased shader with red redstone torch light... < 1295128281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Well, it can't be perfect. < 1295128289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I definitely couldn't play with all these fancy mods seamlessly before. < 1295128299 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1295128303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: ? < 1295128304 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to make minecrafpt faster? < 1295128311 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=132717 < 1295128314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: and also install mcregion: < 1295128318 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=120160 < 1295128327 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want these graphics :D < 1295128329 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: (updates will make your saves inaccessible but there's a conversion tool so you can use them) < 1295128338 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: those graphics are what me and Phantom__Hoover just got working basically :P < 1295128347 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: how good is your gpu/cpu? < 1295128353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: do you play on Far/Fancy? < 1295128363 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1295128363 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1295128373 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: can you do Far/Fancy without your computer lagging? < 1295128377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing that, Normal/Fancy? < 1295128388 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far/Dandy. < 1295128395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't play Normal/Fancy smoothly, it's very unlikely you'll be able to get all these mods working smoothly, even with optimine and mcregion < 1295128405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although mipmapping helps a bit < 1295128462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: basically: Install Optimine; install McRegion; install mipmapping; install Better Light and Better Grass; use mcpatcher on a customised Painterly Pack, check Custom Water, Animated Lava and Animated Fire, decheck the rest. If you have problems with any step in this just ask me for help. :p < 1295128485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say, it's well worth it. < 1295128497 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1295128505 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also playing fullscreened helps for prettiness. :p < 1295128520 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: the checkboxes in mcpatcher are very unintuitive btw but those are the options you want < 1295128663 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Might update in the morning. < 1295128680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: It's very, very early morning! < 1295128691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: BTW, after this last hMod release, there'll be no more. < 1295128710 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all going to the "super-fancy" vapourware pre-pre-pre-alpha Bukkit. < 1295128718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's past midnight here, so it qualifies as a morning. < 1295128723 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: See? < 1295128726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should update RIGHT NOW < 1295128745 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Problem solved. Starting a world in full-screen doesn't do mipmapping. Seriously. < 1295128747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf. :p < 1295128795 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODzO7Lz_pw < 1295128801 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MC IRL with a toaster. < 1295128843 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TED talks overstep my upsettingly-short attention span. < 1295128846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1295128960 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: 50-60 fps standing still, 30-40 fps moving. Booyah. < 1295128981 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TL;DR: it takes the best part of human civilisation as it presently stands to make a toaster. < 1295129010 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1295129017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Wait. You don't use view bobbing, do you? < 1295129022 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do. < 1295129022 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I watched that video. Awesome. < 1295129029 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: ... how do you live with yourself? < 1295129049 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks so mechanical when you just glide over the ground. < 1295129200 0 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1295129214 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1295129308 0 :charlvn!~charlvn@bot.za.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1295129326 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the way he uses moulds made of a log. < 1295129358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: 16 PUMPKINS IN ONE FIELD < 1295129462 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1295129488 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295129492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I'm trying out a new playstyle. < 1295129496 0 :Tritonio_GR!~TrT@athedsl-258916.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1295129510 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully now it will not disconnect due to server problem. < 1295129512 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Mariner. < 1295129535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I spend my time in the ocean, searching out new lands; in the day, I land on them, take useful materials, and sail on. < 1295129560 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you mean, you steal them? < 1295129565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1295129569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steal what? < 1295129588 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steal the materials. < 1295129598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Nobody has laid claim to them, so how can it be stealing? < 1295129621 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you sure? < 1295129635 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be so sure. < 1295129647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There are no houses, or indeed any signs of building, or any change to the landscape at all; no signs; nothing. < 1295129659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if someone has laid claim to them, they haven't exactly made it explicit. < 1295129661 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what kind of materials are they? < 1295129673 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wood from trees. Coal. Iron. Stone. < 1295129707 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't steal too much of them, otherwise it will become empty and the trees and stuff can be important. < 1295129720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I replant the saplings from the trees so that more grow. < 1295129748 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK. But please do not cut *all* the trees at once, at least!! < 1295129754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1295129759 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. < 1295129811 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://davepenguin.imgur.com/the_candle < 1295129952 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen it. It is cool. < 1295130006 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3kRGx--e-w < 1295130008 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1295130030 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone played A.I. Wars? < 1295130132 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I have not. I do not know what that is. < 1295130142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1: Good lord. Spiders can swim. I only hope that my boat can outrun these abominable creatures. There is wonderful land to the side of me, but I cannot stop now; there will be others like it, I am sure. For now, I approach morning ... as fast as my boat will take me. < 1295130146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH MAN THIS IS SO CHEESY I LOVE IT < 1295130149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: ISN'T IT < 1295130178 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Minecraft LPs: SO YESTERDAY < 1295130185 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOLITE LPs ARE WHERE IT'S AT < 1295130194 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTE: THERE IS ONLY ONE OOLITE LP AND IT'S CRAP < 1295130199 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's some kind of programming game with robotic insects and 3d graphics, I don't know much about it - http://programminggames.org/AIWars-The-Insect-Mind.ashx < 1295130234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1, addendum: A perfectly square hole in the world, down to lands of lava and void. What hath God wrought upon this sea? Have I tread into curséd waters? < 1295130243 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Chunk loading error) < 1295130247 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1295130249 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAIL ONTO IT < 1295130255 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: btw that toaster thing is exactly what i meant by this being an utterly uninteresting world, it takes a fuckload of work to make it interesting! < 1295130270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suppose that work has been done already, so maybe i should complain less < 1295130282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No. :p < 1295130319 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1, addendum 2: There are beasts frozen in a permanent expression of horror, made out of unearthly materials, stalking me silently. I am losing my faith. < 1295130369 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, squid? < 1295130385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creepers. < 1295130426 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1, addendum 3: A forest alight. If the unholy creatures did not dwell nearby, I would inspect. Perhaps they did this. There is no land ahead of me that I can see. < 1295130437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ablaze < 1295130446 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lava? < 1295130563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No. < 1295130622 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1, addendum 4: Never so fast have I tried to eliminate dirt as when I saw I was careering towards it. I did not get out; I knew the skeletal archers must have been watching me intently. But now my boat is a pile of wood and I am alone in the night. I am not even sure I have the wood to repair it. < 1295130656 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, MC really needs better oceans. < 1295130669 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The crappy little lakes it has now don't cut it. < 1295130746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night 1, addendum 5: I hastily built a workbench and my boat again; thank God I had the materials. And I even managed to remove my workbench, but as I removed the few remaining blocks of dirt to allow me to pass them with the possibility of return if, as I suspect, it was a dead end, a zombie appeared next to me, after slinking up unnoticed. My boat is in the water but I am not in it, and I fear that the zombie wil < 1295130746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l soon decimate my health. I am at a loss. < 1295130799 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.universetoday.com/20671/ion-shield-for-interplanetary-spaceships-now-a-reality/ < 1295130807 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effing science journalists. < 1295130816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: EXCUSE ME I REQUIRE ADVICE? < 1295130817 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no. < 1295130820 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effing Redditors. < 1295130825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: "The USS Enterprise has many uses for its deflector shields, including repelling the Borg (Paramount Pictures)" < 1295130830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--caption < 1295130837 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, effing science journalists. < 1295130852 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not both? < 1295130864 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, both! < 1295130888 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can kill a few when I murder Sgeo's father and stepmother. < 1295130902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: CAPTAIN'S LOG, night, addendum 6: Braaaiiiins. Braiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins... everything is so much better now... braaaaiins... the sea restricts movement, it is no place I want to be ... all I desire ... is FLESH... < 1295130908 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I died.) < 1295130924 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1295130934 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: A zombie killed me while I played a mariner. < 1295130997 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 + 1 < 1295130998 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1295131014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: yes, you can rely on haskell's arithmetic procedures working < 1295131019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they're not proven :D < 1295131029 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: bunch of smart computer wizzards playing with blocks like small boys + some audience < 1295131049 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: you forgot the small boy playing with blocks like a small boy < 1295131057 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes, me < 1295131061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1295131063 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :irrelevant < 1295131083 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: bought the damn game yet? I need slaves. < 1295131125 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm busy finding this lapis < 1295131130 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295131241 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just make some TNT and use it for digging < 1295131252 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: we already have shitloads of TNT < 1295131255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, it's not nearly enough < 1295131259 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've used up almost 9 stacks < 1295131263 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even more, actually < 1295131270 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: and it's still only a tiny, tiny corner < 1295131272 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't even all down to bedrock < 1295131278 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we need help draining, too < 1295131317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by nine stacks, sure you mean 9 boxes? i have at least a big box full of 9 boxes of exploded tnt < 1295131324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*surely < 1295131344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: xD < 1295131346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah cuz you can stack boxes < 1295131348 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as we all know < 1295131360 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say stack boxes, surely you mean box boxes < 1295131367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it would be nice if you could put chests in chests... not chests in inventory obviously < 1295131372 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but chests in chests, nested only one level < 1295131373 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be like < 1295131376 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a one-chest storage solution for life < 1295131394 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc stacking chests works < 1295131395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to make a backpack < 1295131396 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a scrollbar < 1295131398 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you *can* put chests in chests. < 1295131402 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: _with items_ < 1295131404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that lets you store more stuff < 1295131407 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one 64-stack of chests is as good as 64 chests < 1295131407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inventory is smallllllll < 1295131413 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : you should be able to make a backpack with a scrollbar < 1295131416 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one large chest of 64-stacks of chests could store EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE < 1295131438 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what i would really like to see is the held-item bar being redesigned. < 1295131449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: there you should just be four rows of inventory, and at the end of each row, scrolling past gives you the next one < 1295131451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you mean it could sore a big box full of universes? < 1295131451 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it wraps around < 1295131456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*store < 1295131458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to fucking drag things down and up all the time < 1295131533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to respond but i'm not sure what to surely-you-mean < 1295131549 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :D < 1295131571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: surely you mean you should be able to scroll through the contents of infinite universes in the bottom bar < 1295131589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by bottom bar, surely you mean a big box of bottom bars? < 1295131613 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have at least 3 big boxes of bottom bars in my base < 1295131614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the inventory should just be displayed in a sidebar < 1295131624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a square < 1295131628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you enter two digits, row then col, to select an item < 1295131641 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it'd have the 2x2 crafting there < 1295131648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh < 1295131649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your picture < 1295131653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the armour stuff < 1295131706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like mc more if instead of objects, you'd have big boxes full of objects, like you know use the chest icon as the icon of every object and name object x "a bix bog of x's" < 1295131717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295131735 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: or you could just make stacks go up to 1728 < 1295131737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is equivalent < 1295131738 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1295131740 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for a small chest < 1295131751 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 3456 (omg that's ASCENDING) < 1295131754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3, 4, 5, 6 ?!£NRjhkflghvmkjg < 1295131755 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pojmklgtr < 1295131755 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL, small chest... surely you mean a bix box of small chests < 1295131767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bix box, is that like weetabix < 1295131776 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1295131781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1295131783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by bix box < 1295131792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i of course meant a big box of bix boxes. < 1295131816 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh... "New" indications on IETF I-Ds are based on date. That resulted obsolete version of I-D having "new" indiction. < 1295131842 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ah, so infinite storage? < 1295131842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: surely you mean it's based on a big box of dates? < 1295131852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should stop this before it stops being funny < 1295131854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1295131862 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you're actually a big box of oklopols, right? < 1295131867 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really a danger of that anytime soon < 1295131872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know, in a couple of days < 1295131917 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: by a big box of oklopols, surely you mean a big box of big boxes of oklopols? i have like 5 big boxes of big boxes of oklopols in my base < 1295131926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: friendly word of advice < 1295131930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: DEAR GOD NEVER LET THEM ESCAPE < 1295131934 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295131941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1295131951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should certainly not let them escape < 1295131955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can i ask you something? < 1295131957 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1295131964 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say friendly word of advice < 1295131974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you mean a big box of friendly words of advice? < 1295131975 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1295131977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295131980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely. < 1295131986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have like 7 big boxes of friendly words of advice in my base. < 1295131988 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole BOOKS of advice. < 1295131994 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole big boxes of books of advice. < 1295132002 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by whole books of advice, i should probably go to sleep < 1295132039 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what do you call it when you start a new world, walk around for most of the day, take in the sights, explore tons, build something small, die much much later, respawn, and find out that you built that thing at spawn? < 1295132045 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't walk in straight lines :D < 1295132082 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://9gag.com/gag/29876/ THEY'VE FOUND OUR SECRET < 1295132103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295132130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you call that the circle of life < 1295132132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't remember anything about ear juice in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. < 1295132147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw guys < 1295132148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1295132151 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugliest logo ever? < 1295132158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugliest box ever? with the logo at both sides, flipped on one < 1295132159 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's because we'd kept it a secret even through then, but now the damned Chinese have found it! < 1295132161 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1295132177 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, every time i go to wp i'm like "wait this isn't wp, what the fuck is that logo" < 1295132182 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... oh. it's wp." < 1295132186 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their special content is a big picture of Jimbo. < 1295132191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I KNOW < 1295132213 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: the filename is best though < 1295132216 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :File:Jimmy Wales Fundraiser Appeal edit.jpg < 1295132221 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, let's feature that < 1295132230 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, can I clarify a point here? < 1295132242 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I doubt it :P < 1295132253 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Jew's ear Juice juice squeezed from a Jew's ear or juice that Jews pour into their ears? < 1295132257 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S AMBIGUOUS < 1295132265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1295132271 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good. Then they still don't REALLY know the secret. < 1295132273 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*WHEW* < 1295132279 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wales must really like his face < 1295132280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ear juice back and forth, forever. < 1295132285 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's so beautiful < 1295132313 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what the most useful thing about the NVIDIA X Server Settings is? < 1295132313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a loveable face, if that guy tried to sell me a vacuum cleaner, i'd buy the hell out of it < 1295132322 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lets you enable a cursor shadow! < 1295132323 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah! < 1295132327 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one thing I missed from Windows. < 1295132359 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wales must really like his face ← naw, it doesn't look like a sheep's at all. < 1295132379 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck... I think IANA IPv4 depletion will be all over the net (and not just reedit). < 1295132381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL i get the reference :DDDDDDDDDDDDDd < 1295132402 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least every blog related to IPv6 or IPv4 depletion. < 1295132418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: what's ipv4? < 1295132424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it some sort of sports thing < 1295132440 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295132467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you not download mc skins?? < 1295132470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to back mine up < 1295132471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ages ago, i decided i'd add something to all this ipv4 humble and jumble that's been going around on the channel < 1295132474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now i did < 1295132474 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1295132477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the path to the png file? < 1295132477 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i feel a proud. < 1295132478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know? < 1295132522 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1295132524 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup? < 1295132545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, this lattice is not complete < 1295132551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foundit < 1295132599 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the two major IPv4 depletion estimates, the more pessimistic one is now in "any moment now" mode. The another gives less than a month left... < 1295132624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: how long until RIR depletion? < 1295132625 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, civilisation ends! < 1295132646 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S HAVE A PARTY < 1295132650 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1295132650 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          | < 1295132650 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          >\ < 1295132706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long it would take to make an ipv4 protocol from scratch < 1295132712 0 :MrPhone!~Ident@cpe-98-14-44-145.nyc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295132744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should do a ted talk on that < 1295132777 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is variable; curious does have any (good) graphics libraries? < 1295132781 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's difficult to estimate. Especially due publicity from IANA depletion... I hope that one graph I saw was misleading due to incorrect data processing... < 1295132781 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone tell me how I subscribe to RSS feeds with Chrome. < 1295132795 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone, we have esoteric graphics libraries. < 1295132798 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not really. < 1295132806 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom - extension < 1295132820 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have that non-Euclidean raytracer which I have not been working on solidly for about 6 months. < 1295132842 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant haskell < 1295132859 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1295132861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: Like, what? < 1295132864 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: There's an SDL binding. < 1295132864 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-Euclidean? Elliptic and Hyperbolic geometries? Or just General Relativity? < 1295132866 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help you there. < 1295132876 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, GR? Hahahahahahahahahano. < 1295132880 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does haskell have something like tk or gtk? < 1295132889 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not raytraceable for a start. < 1295132894 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: GTK < 1295132894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: gtk2hs is a binding to gtk. < 1295132906 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: There's also Qt, I think... and Cocoa < 1295132913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: Protip < 1295132916 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't even understand what the objects half of GR's equations rely on are so... < 1295132919 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/pkg-list.html < 1295132924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: Look at the categories :) < 1295132937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: But what you want is a GUI toolkit, not a graphics library. < 1295132958 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Gtk2Hs Gtk2Hs is your best bet. < 1295132967 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: It's widely-used, well-maintained, and I gather has a decent API. < 1295132971 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will look later -on phone now due to busted internet < 1295132999 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's not "perfect" as its use is mostly imperative/object oriented since Gtk is, but hey, it's not like you'd write all of your program in IO anyway. < 1295132999 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, FWIW, I was kind of hoping that I'd be able to get it to do hyperbolic and elliptical geometries and maybe if thins turned out really well some arbitrary manifolds. < 1295133007 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thanks for the reference < 1295133013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some experimental projects to do purely-functional GUIs, but they're not really mature enough to use in practice. < 1295133027 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: fizzie: I have a new skin and it's even more beautiful than my last one: http://minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=ehird < 1295133031 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, GR includes SR and SR is dynamic. < 1295133044 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ty elliot < 1295133073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: did you get those mods installed? < 1295133075 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: Two Ts! :-) < 1295133078 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1295133079 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fell at the first stumbling block of not actually understanding how geodesic rays are calculated. < 1295133087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: aw, did you not bother or was there a problem < 1295133096 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I' going to do it later < 1295133101 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1295133105 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the java doens't work :( < 1295133106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Very rainbowy. (And yes, the URLs the client prints out don't seem to work for any old web browser; I don't know if it's about request headers or something.) < 1295133108 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :user=ehird < 1295133114 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a grey box FURPDKPDR < 1295133115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Worked for me, I just wgetted it. < 1295133116 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott - no tab completion < 1295133122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you have no java plugin :P < 1295133126 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MrPhone: hehe ok < 1295133136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: preview: http://minecraft.net/skin/ehird.png < 1295133137 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there we go < 1295133138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just imagine that warped < 1295133139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1295133153 0 :MrPhone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Phone < 1295133154 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that't cool < 1295133170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you see how Notch is offering pirated versions of Minecraft due to his own incompetence? < 1295133245 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, variable has been converted to the Functional Order rather well. < 1295133306 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1295133406 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could be in a better mood right now < 1295133412 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, he wasn't in the Functional Order before? < 1295133417 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, did you elope with KT-AT? < 1295133419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did KT AT not show up *again*? < 1295133423 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She showed up < 1295133429 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... < 1295133431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No, I convinced him to learn Haskell. < 1295133437 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my happiness is pretty much entirely eclipsed by a belief she holds < 1295133443 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astrology? < 1295133445 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Christianity? < 1295133445 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That the Earth is flat? < 1295133446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tooth fairy? < 1295133450 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathy? < 1295133452 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That P=NP? < 1295133455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sugar is imaginary? < 1295133457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: OMG < 1295133459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even joke about that < 1295133463 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just sick < 1295133469 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, none of those are potentially lethal [I started typing this before you mentioned homeopathy] < 1295133474 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ZFC is inconsistent? < 1295133476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Breatharianism? < 1295133477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say yes. < 1295133480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please to god say yes. < 1295133494 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real-life breatharianist would be the awesome. < 1295133499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They do exist, you know. < 1295133499 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I didn't. < 1295133505 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Vitamin C can essentially cure cancer, and chemotherapy is essentially vitamin C. < 1295133509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1295133514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You dodged a bullet, my friend. < 1295133523 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, get access to her perfume. < 1295133524 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this is the LAST person I'd expect to hold such a belief < 1295133527 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fill it with benzene. < 1295133537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes to self: never let Phantom__Hoover near anyone I love.
< 1295133543 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: hey don't dis that, Dick Lipton believes P=NP. maybe. < 1295133551 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I want P=NP! < 1295133551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: t'was a joke < 1295133560 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The client downloads minecraft.jar?auth=...&..., but you can actually just elide the ? and everything after and it lets you download it. < 1295133571 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Notch quality protection. < 1295133574 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people actually beleive P=NP? not just to be contrary? < 1295133575 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shortly after I met her, I was _convinced_ that she wouldn't hold such a belief < 1295133576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't wait for the Mojang condom. < 1295133585 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Dick Lipton :-P < 1295133613 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There are plenty of females in the universe ... and most of them don't even believe that Vitamin C causes cancer. < 1295133622 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you read what I said wrong < 1295133626 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you mistyped < 1295133629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm saying that it isn't a big deal :P < 1295133631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1295133631 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cures < 1295133639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But I am kind of upset, because now I have to start preparing another silly name... < 1295133657 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing is, you wouldn't expect a cancer survivor to hold such a belief < 1295133682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1295133689 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doged. A. Bullet. < 1295133692 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literally. < 1295133696 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She probably shoots people for fun. < 1295133701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullets cure cancer. < 1295133704 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, benzene. < 1295133712 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: the "maybe" is part of his belief, though. < 1295133733 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : A real-life breatharianist would be the awesome. <-- what do they believe? < 1295133736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So, so, wait, what cured her -- did she drink a lot of orange juice and it cleared itself up? < 1295133747 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it, uh, lots of medical expertise and chemotherapy? < 1295133762 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She got chemo. She's not against regular medicine < 1295133768 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: *real medicine < 1295133772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hey maybe she's the reincarnation of Linus Pauling. that would be cool. sort of. < 1295133776 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: But seriously, SHE BELIEVES CHEMOTHERAPY IS BASICALLY VITAMIN C? < 1295133781 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE < 1295133810 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you point out to her that vitamin C doesn't make you bald? < 1295133816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES IT DOES < 1295133819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just nobody's taken enough yet. < 1295133825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chemotherapy results in LOTS of Vitamin C. < 1295133826 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOTS of it. < 1295133831 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a HUNDRED oranges. < 1295133837 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1295133838 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She believes that vitamin C is free of side-effects < 1295133843 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus is better than chemo < 1295133846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So it doesn't cure cancer? < 1295133853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That you can survive without eating; the justifications vary, sometimes you get things from the air by breathing, other times from the sunlight. < 1295133853 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, DID SHE NOT NOTICE HER SMEGGING HAIR FALLING OUT < 1295133857 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh god, I was drinking this orange juice and the most horrible thing happened... my cancer got cured!" < 1295133871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: No, you see, only radiation Vitamin C causes hair falling out. < 1295133874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she was cured of her cancer before she formed this belief < 1295133876 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, haha < 1295133876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regular Vitamin C is better, because it doesn't. < 1295133883 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, real life ones would be rather short lived < 1295133892 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: One of 'em took the Randi test, and was found sneaking into McDonald's around 04am, IIRC. But he said he just went there to breath in the nutrients. < 1295133896 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, chemotherapy isn't even radioactive! < 1295133907 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it was just some generic test and Randi reported it in the blog. < 1295133919 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1295133920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think he has a standing rule of not testing that sort of silliness.) < 1295133925 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, BENZENE < 1295133938 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: It's pure Vitamin C-enriched uranium. < 1295133941 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Randi? < 1295133958 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: James Randi, a noted skeptic. < 1295133966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal doesn't know who Randi is? lol. < 1295133967 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and illusion maker < 1295133969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And a stage magician.) < 1295133970 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1295133977 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not magic! it's an illusion < 1295133989 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, only kind of magic anyone's going to see. < 1295133991 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There was one where they first did it in a city, deteriorated; "yeah well the air isn't pure enough!"; did it in the beautiful countryside, condition deteriorated, testers said fuck it, and cancelled it. < 1295133993 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not call it magic? < 1295134005 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Randi always makes the distinction < 1295134016 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1295134018 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But yeah, another famous breatharianist has been found ordering meals on planes and such. < 1295134022 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: "James Randi James Randi has an international reputation as a magician and escape artist --", directly from randi.org; I'm pretty sure he's called it magic too. < 1295134054 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A magician is an illusionist; a magician does magic tricks; magic tricks are illusions; a magician does not do magic, but "magic" is a common abbreviation for magic tricks. < 1295134059 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1295134061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So really it's fine to say he does magic, because it's an abbreviation in context. < 1295134066 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:29:13 * Sgeo decides not to state his sexual wishes in the channel < 1295134079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what are your sexual wishes Sgeo? We need to know! < 1295134097 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly he wants his partner to dress up as a macrophage. < 1295134116 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's logical. < 1295134147 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then have some sort of weird blood-furry-vore. < 1295134159 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DISGUSTING < 1295134179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: impossible. blood is not kosher! < 1295134184 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1295134199 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah, but which constituent of blood? < 1295134269 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, HE isn't doing the eating. < 1295134294 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly this is why his stepmother didn't want him seeing non-Jewish girls. < 1295134309 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all makes sense now! < 1295134379 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pieces of the puzzle are fitting together! < 1295134387 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, YOUR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES < 1295134402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microscopic pieces < 1295134428 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, maybe even... ANTIBODY PIECES < 1295134437 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have that archive of the frappr, just realised i lost mine < 1295134453 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1295134493 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/images/gallery/necrocard.jpg lawlwtf < 1295134546 0 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1295134557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: old < 1295134573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that was actually made by some i think performance artist who actually carries it < 1295134577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it holds any legal weight of course :) < 1295134858 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather have sex after my death than be eaten by worms < 1295134864 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or burned < 1295134867 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pretty much anything < 1295134895 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would rather not be buried when I am dead < 1295134919 0 :charlvn!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1295134921 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, it is a waste of space < 1295134981 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also would rather not funeral for when I am dead < 1295135009 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1295135010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1295135016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why no funeral < 1295135033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're no fun at all < 1295135063 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would rather not die\ < 1295135132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah eral is latin for not at all < 1295135240 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dingus Maximus died. Well that's fun eral. < 1295135259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1295135266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got what elliott meant by that < 1295135271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke! < 1295135273 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1295135274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1295135275 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED < 1295135277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun-eral < 1295135280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1295135280 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklodurp < 1295135283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun-not-at-all < 1295135300 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: /nick oklodurp < 1295135315 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okloplo < 1295135321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M ACTUALLY BBER SMART < 1295135324 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*VERY < 1295135328 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I would rather not die\ ← UNTIL YOU BECOME SENESCENT AND ARE PHAGOCYTOSED BY A SEXY MACROPHAGE < 1295135336 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+quote I'M ACTUALLY BBER SMART < 1295135336 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bieber Smart? That doesn't sound very smart at all ... < 1295135354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1295135362 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just ignorant < 1295135377 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is he bber ignorant? < 1295135382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*justin gnorant < 1295135447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Could not deduce (Peano n) from the context (Peano (S n)) < 1295135448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "justin bieber"? < 1295135458 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound right < 1295135468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some other justin < 1295135476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess there could be two famous justins < 1295135485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timberlake? :P < 1295135488 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timberlake < 1295135489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1295135500 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hum < 1295135501 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like some famous programmer or what < 1295135506 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1295135507 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: :D < 1295135514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: i should probably do it as a type family < 1295135517 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1295135532 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bieber is a singer i think < 1295135540 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has a really high voice? < 1295135568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read this in a youtube comment i think < 1295135634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU SAY JUSTIN BIEBER, I SAY METAL BAND #1; YOU SAY SPICE GIRLS, I SAY METAL BAND #2; etc. < 1295135646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to conclude people who listen to metal are retarded < 1295135691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ironic < 1295135696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say? Justin Bieber,I say PARAMORE!!! You say Lady Gaga,I say Evanescence You say Miley Cyrus,I say Slipknot You say? T-Pain,I say Three Days Grace You say Emenem,I say Linkin Park You say Jonas Brother,Isay Green Day < 1295135698 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, the correct deduction is "people who comment on music videos on YouTube are retarded." < 1295135716 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :92% of teens have turned to pop and hip-hop.If? you are part of the? 8% that still listens to real music, copy and paste this message to 5 other videos.? DON'T LET THE SPIRIT OF ROCK AND ROLL DIE!!!!!!! < 1295135736 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 exclamation marks. < 1295135740 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1295135742 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some grade-A stupid there. < 1295135755 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love it when people say things are ironic ironically. < 1295135756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it wins the actual content in stupidity? < 1295135758 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How ironic! < 1295135764 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, they actually DO copy paste that around :D < 1295135794 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, believe me, I know. < 1295135799 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1295135880 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1295135894 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why has Sgeo not taken on board my dating advice. < 1295135909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover, I'm not a murderer, and I still like her < 1295135922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... am fearful for her safety < 1295135927 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, just give her loads of orange juice! < 1295135951 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not stab someone who believes that they are immortal, either < 1295135952 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: did you suggest he kill her or what? < 1295135980 0 :Phantom__Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I suggested he put benzene in her perfume in order to demonstrate that vitamin C does not, in fact, cure cancer.