00:00:16 Prince_Charles: There was apparently a study showing it was an effective spermicide and one showing it wasn't. 00:00:17 I really hope that this does show up if elliott's prospective employers Google him. 00:00:37 It totally will. 00:00:38 Prince_Charles: The two studies earned their authors the 2008 Ig Nobel Prize in Chemistry. 00:00:38 -!- quintopia has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 00:00:48 XD 00:01:06 what? :D 00:01:27 -!- quintopia has joined. 00:01:27 -!- quintopia has quit (Changing host). 00:01:28 -!- quintopia has joined. 00:01:56 Hmm. Seems Coke has a pH of 2.5... 00:02:16 I'd *really* think that alone would do a number on most cells. 00:02:57 pikhq, what, seriously? 00:03:14 Uhh, that seems wrong. 00:03:15 bah 00:03:16 Prince_Charles: Most sodas are pretty acidic. 00:03:17 That's, like, the same as vinegar. 00:03:19 i lagged out again 00:03:20 Maybe Coke SYRUP has a pH of 2.5 00:03:26 this is terrible QoS 00:03:27 AND THEY MOCKED ME FOR DRINKING BALSAMIC 00:03:33 pikhq: Dude, I make soda, it's not THAT acidic. 00:03:46 Gregor: Colas are at the high end. 00:03:48 COKE MELTS SKIN 00:03:56 pikhq: IT IS NOT AT FUCKING pH 2.5 00:04:02 pikhq: Wherever you read that is wrong. 00:04:34 I get 3.4 on the first Google hit. 00:04:59 OTOH, http://biology.clc.uc.edu/scripts/phresl.pl reports it as 2.75. 00:05:31 And regular Coke has a pH of 2.0. 00:06:12 ...which is less than that of red wine vinegar. 00:06:37 Prince_Charles: Red wine vinegar probably isn't sweetened. 00:06:55 And only a little more than that of rice vinegar. 00:07:02 Gregor: Well, one of the main ingredients in Coke is freaking phosphoric acid. 00:08:22 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:09:39 oklopol, would you reconsider having sex in a bath of coke based on this new information? 00:10:38 And I'm finding a lot of citations for the pH of Coke being around 2.5... 00:10:40 actually, i might. 00:10:50 because i don't know what would happen 00:10:53 Not the syrup, the actual end result. 00:10:57 i do enjoy the idea of bubbly bubbly 00:12:06 oklopol, perhaps your girlfriend was reasonable in her preference of Sprite, and you dismissed her unjustly? 00:12:44 Prince_Charles: Sprite isn't much better. 00:12:46 indeed. i would call right away, but she just moved to ethiopia. 00:13:04 oklopol, conclusion: you're both idiots. 00:13:17 :P 00:13:24 How's about milk? 00:13:33 pikhq: Yes, and I know how much phosphoric acid goes into it. It's not a lot. 00:13:39 i wouldn't put my genitalia in coke. 00:13:46 pikhq, hmm, that page gives Sprite as pH 5. 00:13:58 Prince_Charles: Oh, hey, that is quite a bit better. 00:13:59 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 00:14:01 Or 3.9 for pure Sprite. 00:14:25 But since pHes are logarithmic, that's nearly a hundred times less acidic than Coke. 00:15:20 oklopol, I suppose you could just use carbonated water. 00:15:29 Did you read the quotations on page 365 (the end of Appendix B) of the TeXbook? 00:15:55 Gregor: A 10^-2 molar solution of phosphoric acid is 2.25 pH. 00:17:13 Given that the pH of carbonated water alone is between 3 and 4, Sprite seems as good a choice as any from an acidity standpoint. 00:17:30 and you get to see tits too! 00:17:38 Ah, yeah, and carbonated water is itself a solution of carbonic acid. 00:17:39 OTOH, Sprite has sugar in it. 00:17:52 Ilari: sugar is bad for the genitals? 00:17:52 Ilari, hence "from an acidity standpoint". 00:17:55 s/sugar/high-fructose corn syrup/ :P 00:18:12 But watch out for carbonated water that has sugar in it (yes, that exists). 00:18:29 Well, sugar is bad news for pretty much anything... :-) 00:18:34 i'm sure i'd use whatever's the cheapest 00:18:39 you'd need quite a lot of it 00:18:47 oklopol, well, carbonated water then. 00:18:51 s/sugar/high-fructose corn syrup/ :P 00:18:53 only in the usa. 00:18:56 Yeahyeah 00:18:58 Just being a durp 00:19:08 dupr 00:19:44 oklopol: Straight corn syrup, then. 00:20:08 Because of government subsidies, it has a negative cost of production, IIRC. 00:20:43 ooh, syrup might be fun too 00:21:21 -!- cheater00 has joined. 00:21:21 oklopol: do it in treacle. 00:21:28 oklopol, even *worse* from a sugar point of view. 00:21:40 Prince_Charles: Yes, but external application of sugar is kinda moot. 00:22:05 pikhq, yes, but sex kind of implies a degree of internal application. 00:22:28 i don't have a vagina but i think that might be painful 00:22:49 On the other hand, sugar could produce a yeast infection. 00:23:04 oklopol: do it in liquid sugar 00:23:05 fuck yeah 00:23:10 carbonated liquid sugar 00:23:13 elliott: Owowowowow. 00:23:37 elliott, sugar doesn't melt at non-burny temperatures. 00:23:53 Prince_Charles: You should specify pressure. 00:23:55 hot sex hahahahaha 00:23:58 -!- cheater- has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:24:07 what pikhq said 00:24:09 i wonder if anyone's realized hot means two different things 00:24:11 You can supersaturate water with sugar. 00:24:16 PRESSURE, PUSHIN' DOWN ON ME 00:24:19 186°C, apparently. 00:24:20 You could have syrup that's like three parts sugar, one part water. 00:24:23 Carbonate that bitch. 00:24:33 Gregor: Not the same as sugar in its liquid state. 00:24:43 man this carbonated sex thing does not sound so appealing. 00:24:44 pikhq: Duh. 00:24:50 Gregor: *8 parts sugar, 1 part water 00:24:53 SO MUCH SUGAR 00:25:11 *G₆₄ parts sugar, 1 part water 00:25:14 Pretty sure three is already pushing the limit :P 00:25:21 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 00:25:26 *infinity parts sugar, 0 parts water 00:25:54 elliott: my master's thesis is about why infinity is not a number 00:25:56 *1 part sugar, 1 part sugar 00:26:03 oklopol: lol 00:26:10 oklopol: Define "number". 00:26:14 :) 00:26:30 i do that on page 23 00:26:48 -!- azaq23 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 00:26:53 "a number is a hyperreal 00:26:54 ... 00:26:55 shit" 00:27:05 oklopol: If that's a MASTER'S thesis, it sounds like a Master's thesis in a field that you can't get a job with a Master's ... 00:27:07 As snarky as that comment was, I did in fact mean it in all seriousness — you really do need to define what numbers *are* in order to determine whether or not infinity is one. 00:27:12 -!- azaq23 has joined. 00:27:46 Gregor: 1) my master's thesis is not about infinity 2) that's true for what it actually is about as well 3) who the fuck stops at master's? 00:28:06 Gregor stopped at master's 00:28:08 because he's dumb 00:28:09 oklopol: Most people stop before a master's. 00:28:11 Dood I skipped right over Master's :P 00:28:16 yeah 00:28:18 too dumb to be a master 00:28:24 he's just a doctor now 00:28:26 well 00:28:27 not even that yet 00:28:29 lol 00:28:30 he's a retardy 00:28:35 (so glad he isn't an op right now) 00:28:38 He's a bachelor. 00:28:58 yeah that's possible too, but most of my results would've gone to waste 00:29:11 because i don't wanna do a phd in this topic 00:29:26 what's your poopd gonna be in 00:29:32 i have absolutely no idea 00:29:33 EXCLUSIVELY USELESS MATH? 00:29:38 hopefully 00:29:42 elliott: The math of poop. 00:29:51 i'd like to do something really abstract and insane that no one understand 00:29:51 in that course, anyone who mentions "oh yeah I did this thing wh-" gets shot 00:30:00 oklopol: what, don't you masturbate already? 00:30:01 ohh 00:30:03 that was some wordplay 00:30:06 fuckin' WIT 00:30:08 *understands 00:30:10 do you get it oklopol 00:30:16 you're the really abstract and insane thing that no one understands 00:30:17 DO 00:30:17 get it 00:30:19 ahahahahahoijxklmc 00:30:19 hopfgkfe[ 00:31:07 And in 2020, when poop becomes the mainstream computation method (it's complex and involves physics that won't be invented for 5 more years — don't ask), his poop math degree will be the most valuable thing ever. 00:31:35 * Prince_Charles → sleep 00:31:44 pikhq: i approve 00:31:46 oklopol: have sex in poop. 00:31:50 carbonated poop. 00:31:55 -!- Prince_Charles has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:32:06 there was this vid where a jap swam in cow shit for hours 00:32:19 Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. 00:32:30 `addquote Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. 00:32:31 326) Why do you want to have sex in everything? I don't want. 00:32:38 "I don't want." is a brilliant sentence 00:32:42 actually the one i bumped into was GIRL SWIMMING IN COW SHIT *TWO* 00:32:53 electric boogaloo? 00:32:59 oklopol: I can only hope that she was drunk. 00:33:02 good to know one was not enough 00:33:05 drunk on cow shit 00:33:10 Once someone told me he was going to call the president and tell him to remove the words "I don't want" from the dictionary. 00:33:15 pikhq: well i didn't watch all of it, but i doubt it 00:33:21 oklopol: man i dunno, I liked Girl Swimming in Cow Shit 00:33:28 but Girl Swimming in Cow Shit Two just felt... derivative 00:33:33 none of the spark of the original, you know? 00:33:34 :P 00:33:50 elliott: I suppose it was a bit... Slope of the tangent line-y. 00:33:53 the trilogy was MUCH better as a book 00:34:07 oklopol: definitely 00:34:14 Girl Swimming in Cow Shit Three... the emotion 00:34:16 the struggle 00:34:17 the cow shit 00:34:19 the girl 00:34:20 the swimming 00:34:23 yes 00:34:23 a masterpiece. 00:46:13 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 00:46:13 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 00:46:13 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 00:49:10 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:49:10 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 00:49:27 20:32:03 * pikhq wonders: would you call Hemingway any good? 00:49:28 20:32:15 We just started doing stuff on Hemingway, so. . . 00:49:28 20:32:31 I liked "Old man and the sea" and "Of Mice and Men" 00:49:28 20:32:46 "Of Mice and Men" was pretty good, IIRC. 00:49:28 20:32:51 the grapes of wrath was rather dull, but it had it's moments. That was another WTF ending. 00:49:29 20:33:02 Not read that one. 00:49:31 20:33:03 His short stuff was the best, really 00:49:35 20:33:28 And "Of Mice and Men" and "Grapes of Wrath" are Steinbeck, not Hemingway. 00:49:37 20:33:44 don't bother with the grapes of wrath, but read "the old man and the sea" sometime. Actually, you could probably run through it on project gutenburg in a couple hours. 00:49:40 lol wut 00:49:42 oh 00:49:44 pikhq pointed out the error in that line :D 00:49:46 i was all wutting 00:49:48 but then pikhq wutted for me 00:49:50 and now i'm all out of wuts to wu 00:49:52 *wut 00:50:21 pikhq, it's rude to wut me like that 00:51:03 old man and the sea = hey let's go fishing oh shit daz big i can't do it let's go get drunk and shit 00:51:13 hey oklopol, have you read a work of fiction since 2008-01-22 00:51:29 i read the last harry potter like umm on sunday 00:51:40 not all of it, the last 100 pages, i've read it sporadically 00:52:11 oklopol: YOU VIOLATED YOUR PACT 00:52:16 with yourself 00:52:19 or did you revoke it 00:52:39 the last harry potter is a bit rubbish... actually it started going downhill after goblet of fire 00:52:53 goblet is such a great word 00:52:54 i could live in a goble 00:52:56 goblet 00:53:50 How can you live in a goblet? 00:53:51 so oklopol 00:53:52 clue 00:55:05 oklopol is having his mind blowed by his own language 00:56:17 clue is a best! 00:56:35 oklopol: so did you do lambadas 00:56:46 the part where they just did nothing for hundreds of pages was good tho 00:57:39 yeah that's like 00:57:40 all of it 00:57:48 they had no idea what they were doing most of the book 00:58:08 ACTION...nothing...nothing...nothing...(action)NOTHING...nothing...nothing...nothing..."wtf is going on" "man, for wizards, you think we'd know the shit that all wizards apparently know" 00:58:12 "maybe we're just tarded" 00:58:17 "maybe. let's keep finding out that 2+2=4." 00:58:22 ...nothing...nothing... 00:58:25 yeah it's great how harry and ron still don't know fucking shit 00:58:27 "hey voldemort's dead, when did that happen" 00:58:29 [ THE END ] 00:58:33 without hermione, they would die on every page 00:58:37 sorry for spoiling 00:58:41 you know 00:58:43 that voldemort dies 00:58:53 and then harry suddenly beats everyone on the last 5 pages and is all hero and shit 00:58:56 good triumphs over evil, who'da thunk it?! 00:59:04 oklopol: maybe harry's like, secretly half-troll 00:59:12 and he actually just whacks everyone on the head all the time :/ 00:59:16 but he thinks he's doing magic 00:59:20 and he's the one writing the book 00:59:33 would make a sense 00:59:36 what i'm saying is, voldemort is just a playground bully, they're all five years old, and harry has downs 00:59:48 -!- elliott has set topic: fuckin' literary analysis | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 01:00:23 oh you said spoiling 01:00:33 i read that as something between spelling and typoing 01:00:35 xD 01:00:38 spypoing 01:00:45 spypoing, that would be a good day 01:00:46 erm 01:00:47 game 01:00:50 you're a spy and you poing people. 01:00:53 or things. 01:01:25 i have an exam overmorrow, so i have to sleep. 01:01:30 -!- SimonRC has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 01:01:33 -!- elliott has set topic: HAVE YOU EVER CAUSED A PLANET TO DISAPPEAR? | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 01:01:36 oklopol: as long as you come back : 01:01:38 *:| 01:01:41 i realise i'm annoying 01:01:42 but but 01:01:49 don't make everyone else be deprived 01:01:51 just because i suck 01:01:54 i noticed your language doesn't have a word for day after tomorrow so i borrowed the finnish one 01:02:13 oklopol: but 01:02:14 in finnish 01:02:16 isn't it just 01:02:18 daytodaynextnetx 01:02:20 *nextnext 01:02:21 because of 01:02:22 you know 01:02:24 agglutination 01:02:28 which is clearly applied universally 01:02:32 because that's the only thing that makes sense? 01:02:33 ah yeah that polar bear thing 01:02:37 ...wat 01:02:45 what? 01:02:48 yeah 01:03:05 what polar bear thing 01:03:07 yeah we're totally agglutinative, and also slightly concatenative 01:03:14 THAT'S THE SAME THING 01:03:18 ok oklopol what is the finnish for "day" 01:03:22 p�iv� 01:03:27 and in the phrase "this day", what is the finnish for "this" 01:03:36 t�m� 01:03:41 what's the finnish for "next" 01:03:44 seuraava 01:03:49 oklopol: päivätämäseuraavaseuraava 01:03:52 oklopol: what does that mean 01:04:08 it means roughtly daythisnextnext 01:04:12 *roughly 01:04:14 oklopol: BUT DOES IT MAKE SENSE 01:04:32 well maybe not as much as daythisnextnext, but good enough. 01:04:37 xD 01:04:45 well does päivätämä make sense for "today" 01:05:19 Is "daythisnextnext" like the day after tomorrow? 01:05:34 yes! 01:05:56 p�iv� t�m� could be a poetic way to say this day. sounds a bit silly ofc. 01:06:35 oklopol: hmm, what's finnish for today 01:06:37 and what's finnish for after 01:06:51 today=t�n��n, after=j�lkeen 01:06:59 tänäänjälkeen 01:07:04 DOES THAT SOUND LESS SILLY 01:07:25 well unlike p�iv� t�m�, that one could not mean anything 01:07:30 but i like it 01:07:38 tänäänjälkeenjälkeen 01:07:45 oklopol: wait what's the finnish for "twice" 01:07:50 kahdesti 01:07:52 tänäänjälkeenkahdesti 01:07:56 :D 01:07:59 from now on whenever you have to say the day after tomorrow in finnish 01:08:00 say that 01:08:08 you should write all my finnish from now one 01:08:09 *on 01:08:17 oklopol: heck, if you have to say like 01:08:20 today 01:08:23 oklopol: ok i need some words 01:08:32 oklopol: what's the finnish for "period" as in period of time, what's the finnish for "time" 01:08:32 i have a few 01:08:36 actually wait 01:08:39 kausi aika 01:08:39 oklopol: what's the finnish for twenty-four 01:08:41 what's the finnish for hours 01:08:46 kaksikymment�nelj� 01:08:49 tunti 01:09:07 what's the finnish for "current" 01:09:13 t�m�nhetkinen 01:09:23 oklopol: kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinenseuraava 01:09:26 depends on the usage prolly 01:09:27 that's "tomorrow" 01:09:34 current as in, present 01:09:35 of course it is 01:09:42 oklopol: does that actually like...parse 01:10:00 well i know it's stack-based so i can parse it just fine 01:10:11 but that's just a stack of finnish words in random order 01:10:12 :P 01:10:24 oklopol: see i interpret agglutinative to mean polysynthetic 01:10:27 where that WOULD make sense :P 01:10:30 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page 01:10:33 added that wonderful word to our front page 01:10:37 kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausi is an okay compound 01:10:49 what does that mean, without the rest 01:10:49 imo, other finns might disagree violently tho 01:11:14 elliott: i know you interpret agglutinative to mean polysynthetic 01:11:18 that's why i said polar bear 01:11:22 "Twenty-Four Hour Period As One moment" --Google Translate on "kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen" 01:11:22 oklopol: xD 01:11:34 "as one moment" actually makes that make sense 01:11:36 but it's probably a mistranslation 01:11:53 my next esolang will be called Kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen. 01:12:15 t�m�n hetkinen kahdenkymmenennelj�n tunnin ajanjakso 01:12:19 oklopol: what's the finnish for true, false, and or 01:12:19 = today 01:12:22 erm 01:12:25 t�m�nhetkinen 01:12:34 *tämänhetkinenkahdenkymmenenneljäntunninajanjakso 01:12:41 true=tosi, false=ep�tosi, or=tai 01:12:44 and also vai 01:13:00 oklopol: whenever you want to say "dunno" or "maybe" say tosiepätositai instead 01:13:11 "Is it true that you're an asshole?" "Tosiepätositai." 01:13:11 in finnish, if someone asks you if you want coffee or tea, you can't say "yes" 01:13:19 sure you can 01:13:22 you'll just get punched 01:13:39 no, you get punched in uk, in finland people don't understand you 01:13:46 :D 01:13:57 oklopol: maybe i'll learn finlandish instead of pajamaese 01:13:58 because that's like answering "final seventh" 01:14:00 sorry japanese 01:14:12 wait wait lemme construct a finnish sentence with google translate and my own ingenuity 01:14:29 japanese is fun 01:14:45 oklopol lausetämänarvostavaja on 01:14:45 elliott: でも日本では漢字有る！漢字が大好きな物だよっ！ 01:14:52 you can just say a sentence and put "no" after it to make it an event, quite as sexily as in lojban 01:14:56 s/日本/日本語/ 01:14:59 lol google translate won't even touch that middle word 01:15:10 oklopol: parse dat 01:15:44 sentence of this one that esteems and is 01:15:53 oklopol: xD 01:15:54 oklopol: it was 01:16:06 oklopol sentencethisappreciatesof is 01:16:07 or something 01:16:14 22:49:32 i made an attempt once at a natural language with as little vocab as possible 01:16:14 22:49:43 15 words could already do a lot 01:16:14 22:49:56 hmm, which words? 01:16:14 22:50:22 hmm, some logic, derivative, integration and "world" 01:16:14 22:50:28 also, i think i had some concept of identity 01:16:15 22:50:44 interesting 01:16:16 22:50:46 world was for getting something physical in 01:16:19 hey was that that one you pasted a vocab for in like 2007? 01:16:24 pikhq: what's 漢字 01:16:28 Kanji. 01:16:39 what's it mean i mean 01:16:43 Kanji. 01:16:44 chinese character 01:16:47 oh lol 01:16:50 indeed :DD 01:16:55 22:54:09 "lalna", my other lang, had a separate module for geometry, you could explain a chair in that one quite easily without an actual word for chair. 01:16:56 oh, that was lalna 01:17:00