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Good night.). 01:36:43 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 01:36:50 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 01:51:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:54:17 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 02:02:00 -!- variable has joined. 02:03:31 * pikhq_ notes that apple cider (the fermented beverage) is fucking delicious. 02:08:52 -!- pikhq has joined. 02:10:45 In light of it being my 21st soon, I seem to be getting inundated with various alcoholic beverages. 02:10:56 No all-American pisswater yet, thankfully. 02:11:42 -!- MUILTFN_ has joined. 02:11:54 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:20:45 -!- MUILTFN_ has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 02:21:57 alcohol is extremely overrated 02:23:11 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:27:55 * pikhq doesn't understand the appeal in cheap alcoholic swill. 02:29:05 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 02:29:11 sorry, I don't understand the appeal of any of it.. tastes nasty 02:29:34 Decent alcoholic beverages are fucking delicious. 02:29:51 if you say so 02:30:19 But the effects of alcohol? Yeah, I don't really understand the appeal.] 02:31:59 Maybe I'm just a freak that likes thought. :P 02:53:00 -!- Wamanuz4 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 02:53:02 -!- Wamanuz5 has joined. 02:53:46 At some point you have to draw a line *shrugs* 02:53:55 Nobody says "I don't like Coke because of its trace amounts of alcohol" 02:54:25 Except for the kind of people who put more trust into small, obsolete books than common sense of course. 02:56:33 It's a large group of obsolete books... 02:57:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:57:44 The books themselves are frequently small :P 02:58:03 I read the Song of Soloman on the bus 02:58:28 It wasn't as dirty as I thought it would be. Not really for kids, but nothing too graphic 02:58:42 Did seem incentual though 02:59:32 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:02:49 If (IF!) I offered to change my name to Mallory Caitor if I got more than $1,000 in donations and won libc.so, would more people donate? :P 03:03:00 And I see something online saying it's a bad translation 03:03:06 Argh, low battery 03:15:59 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:16:41 -!- Vorpal has joined. 03:31:08 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds). 03:37:59 Curious. The current government in Canada has been found in contempt of Parliament. 03:38:01 -!- Lymia has joined. 03:38:02 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 03:38:02 -!- Lymia has joined. 03:40:00 -!- woroyo_ has joined. 03:40:49 -!- woroyo_ has changed nick to wareya. 03:43:10 -!- woroyo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 03:47:11 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:48:01 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:48:33 -!- variable has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 03:49:09 -!- invariable has joined. 04:12:12 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:12:17 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 04:17:19 -!- pikhq has joined. 04:17:42 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:27:34 Let's say you wanted to, purely for the curiosity, create a system which would remain active for the remainder of your life, capable of serving a web page (or equivalent) which simply reports its uptime, AND capable of being upgraded to meet new standards so long as the upgrades require only software changes. 04:27:40 How would you go about that? 04:28:20 Note that it doesn't need to be Internet- or otherwise network-accessible at all times, as that's probably wildly out of your control, but you should strive to make it so most of the time. 04:30:15 I would design it using a microcontroller that is likely never ever going to cease use. 04:30:22 Say, a z80. 04:31:19 Does that matter? The Z80 isn't more /stable/ than, say, a commodity x86, and you can never replace the processor anyway. 04:31:29 By "remain active for the remainder of your life" I mean 100% uptime. 04:31:45 (Maybe I didn't make that clear :P ) 04:32:49 Oh. In that case I'd fucking hand-design something with wire wrapping. 04:33:00 Uhh, good luck upgrading that software. 04:33:15 Oh, unless you're taking advantage of a loophole in my description and putting everything in hardware :P 04:33:22 "Nothing requires software changes, therefore win" 04:33:40 Who said anything about software? :) 04:34:04 "AND capable of being upgraded to meet new standards so long as the upgrades require only software changes." // I did :P 04:35:30 Anyways, I never *said* it couldn't be an actual CPU. 04:35:49 It' 04:35:57 Yeah, but if it is then that just leads back to " Uhh, good luck upgrading that software." 04:36:17 I don't see why it would be difficult. 04:36:49 Gregor: for your logging bot: make sure it doesn't join an auto-kline channel 04:37:16 invariable: It can only join a channel due either to an /invite or a glogbot-op request. 04:37:29 It's just that wire-wrapping together digital circuitry will result in *exceptionally* reliable system. 04:37:32 Gregor: k cool 04:38:18 https://twitter.com/SecureTips --> is pure win. 04:38:19 And yes I've said this here before :-p 04:38:47 And if you also make the memory be, say, magnetic core, it should survive just about everything but someone actually bombing it. 04:41:12 What's your reliable power source? 04:42:25 Though I doubt I, personally, would be able to find one easily, if I could, I'd get an RTG. 04:43:11 Gregor: if I neeeded 100% uptime I'd go for redundancy over reliability 04:44:44 Redundancy IS reliability when all redundant sources are taken as a whole. 04:45:28 Gregor: I meant: I'd go for a larger number of more fallible parts opposed to more expensive/fewer less fallible parts 04:45:46 ie - spend time making more of them work than making those that work work better 04:46:06 Mmmmm, so you're making a cluster. 04:46:17 (Or something broadly in that family) 04:46:34 Gregor: yes. 04:46:56 Soooo... Make a hard-to-notice botnet that does Trusting Trust on pretty much all future computer and OS designs. >:D 04:47:09 X-D 04:47:10 The Internet shall be my cluster! 04:47:48 Also ANYBODY WHO HASN'T DONATED TO THE LIBC.SO FUND BY SUNDAY SHALL BE DECLARED A TRAITOR 04:47:54 TRAITORRRRRRRR 04:48:12 pikhq: Trusting Trust can be beaten 04:48:15 (This means that almost the entire population of the Earth will be traitors as of Sunday) 04:48:30 invariable: Yes, but it's pretty hard to. 04:48:42 pikhq: so is the trusting trust attack :-p 04:49:03 invariable: Oh, I've already proposed a fucking universal botnet. 04:49:17 invariable: It's not like this is all that *practical*. :) 04:49:45 pikhq: *cough*SETI*cough* 04:49:50 invariable: btw, since when are there instant-kline channels ... 04:50:21 *Ooooh*. 04:50:22 Gregor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#klineannoyinguser 04:52:13 ... wow. 04:53:38 I can only assume that the auto-kline channels do not, in fact, exist, so even if Freenode didn't have an only-ops-can-invite default AND allowed people to invite others to join channels they're not on, /invite wouldn't work 04:59:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:01:18 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:01:33 Err, do not exist in the sense that they are not actual channels (not in /list, can't be /invited etc), not that they won't actually trigger kline. 05:01:36 *zleep* 05:04:25 -!- wittykitty has joined. 05:09:37 Gregor: I assume it's, say, #porn 05:09:56 coppro: its not like that 05:10:09 its the type of channels botnets typically join 05:10:29 oh, with different sigils? 05:11:34 coppro: I won't give exact examples: but it is not a channel one is likely to join accidentally. 05:12:01 its something like #m33tupForMySillyBotNet4934892489 05:12:30 oh 05:17:23 Hello everyone 05:19:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:21:21 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:22:53 -!- asiekierka has joined. 05:32:54 hello wittykitty 05:33:38 bonjour invariable 05:36:46 'Ello. 05:37:15 Hi 05:37:28 How farest thou? 05:38:04 I'm ok....? 05:38:06 lol 05:38:26 'Twould seem to be a good thing, that. 05:38:28 -!- asiekierka has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 05:39:13 And how are you 05:39:25 Doing rather well this evening. 05:39:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:39:59 I have discovered the problem with modern image compression 05:40:04 coppro: Oh? 05:40:14 naive compression does it row-by-row 05:40:27 advanced algorithms might do more at once, but are fundamentally row-based 05:40:37 Not entirely true. 05:40:41 this makes it impossible to compress infinite images properly 05:40:52 only a diagonal algorithm can compress an infinite image 05:41:01 The typical lossy image compression scheme is actually submatrix by submatrix. 05:41:18 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:41:47 but how are those submatrices ordered? 05:42:08 see? 05:42:15 no way you'll compress an infinite image like that 05:42:39 There's no real reason that they need to have a particular order; they're handled entirely independently of every other submatrix. 05:42:54 At least until you get into more advanced techniques. 05:43:34 hence the problem with image processing today 05:43:45 I rest my case 05:44:12 And hypothetically you *could* just treat the entire image as a single matrix and perform the DCT on *that*... 05:44:29 Though that involves an infinite number of infinite summations. 05:44:32 *shudder* 05:45:17 And then multiplying it by another infinite matrix for the sake of quantising it. 05:45:20 *double-shudder* 05:50:06 Though after all *that*, it's a simple matter to output the infinite matrix into an infinite bitstream. 05:50:57 -!- wittykitty has left. 05:59:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:01:18 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 06:15:15 -!- sftp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:19:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:21:18 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 06:39:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:41:19 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 06:57:12 -!- cheater99 has joined. 06:58:52 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 06:59:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:01:22 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 07:22:14 -!- wittykitty has joined. 07:30:11 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:31:50 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 07:45:17 -!- wittykitty has quit (Quit: wittykitty). 08:00:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:02:20 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:20:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:22:25 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:37:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 08:42:21 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:47:03 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 08:47:26 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:00:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:02:24 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 09:17:58 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 09:22:22 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 09:23:08 -!- calamari has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:40:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:42:25 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 09:52:27 -!- pikhq has joined. 09:53:16 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 09:58:21 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 10:02:23 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 10:20:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:22:33 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 10:41:10 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:51:55 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 10:52:45 -!- pikhq has joined. 10:52:45 -!- invariable has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 11:32:23 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:01:36 -!- cheater00 has joined. 12:01:59 -!- variable has joined. 12:03:04 -!- cheater99 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 12:43:21 -!- oerjan has joined. 12:59:29 Why must I continue to assume competence on ##javascript X_X 13:00:06 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 13:01:01 Gregor: glutton for punishment: 1. (idiomatic) One persistent in an effort in spite of harmful or unpleasant results. "I should have quit this job long ago, but I guess I'm just a glutton for punishment." 13:01:28 Gregor, what happened? 13:01:37 -!- cheater99 has joined. 13:02:01 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:05:53 well, competent JavaScript programmers exist 13:05:59 is it just that they don't hang out on Freenode? 13:06:10 or that ##javascript is sufficiently competence-hostile that all the competent people were driven away? 13:11:45 Perhaps this was just a case of mistakenly assuming competence \forall, when competence just \exists. 13:18:10 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:23:08 -!- esowiki has joined. 13:23:18 -!- glogbot has joined. 13:23:30 [13:22] * oerjan evilly makes a non-logged utterance 13:23:41 ais523: YOU FIEND 13:24:04 IT WOULD HAVE WORKED TOO IF NOT FOR THIS MEDDLING KID 13:25:33 You could have always just disputed the accuracy of ais523's quotation. (Doing it after that outburst might not be entirely credible any more.) 13:26:01 DARN 13:26:03 I dispute being referred to as a "KID" 13:26:13 YKGOML 13:26:19 my parents are not goats, and I do not aspire to be the Guy 13:26:55 are you _sure_ they're not goats? maybe they are just using creative makeup 13:27:40 -!- sftp has joined. 13:28:36 also, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouMeddlingKids 13:29:13 -!- sftp has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 13:29:25 oerjan: I've watched enough Scooby-Doo when younger to not need a TV Tropes link to get the reference 13:29:29 -!- sftp has joined. 13:29:41 children need a constant diet of cartoons to avoid them becoming bored and going out and setting fire to recycling bins 13:29:52 FINE, IGNORE MY EVIL PLOT TO ENSNARE YOU IN TVTROPES THEN 13:30:50 * oerjan does not picture ais523 as a person to set fire to recycling bins. but maybe that's just due to overdosing on cartoons. 13:31:01 oerjan: I never have done 13:31:16 the recycling bins near my house have been repeatedly set on fire, but on no occasion was it me who did so 13:31:40 besides, I have a complex strategy to avoid getting ensnared in TV Tropes 13:31:53 at least, no one saw you, and they certainly cannot prove it. 13:31:57 although at work, I abandon it in favour of the much simpler strategy of never visiting it at all 13:32:03 There's a local maximum of the being-set-on-fire density function for recycling bins that coincides with your house, but I'm sure it's really just a coincidence. 13:32:22 fizzie: but that's because the recycling bins are near my house! 13:32:30 excuses, excuses 13:32:30 not because I'm there! 13:32:54 some people wanted to build a mobile phone mast near my house, but they changed their minds because they thought it would just be repeatedly destroyed by vandals 13:33:04 -!- hagb4rd has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 13:33:12 That shouldn't affect the being-set-on-fire density for recycling bins, just the overall recycling-bins-that-are-set-on-fire density. 13:33:30 well, vandalism's quite high where I live 13:33:37 or used to be, before the place started swarming with police 13:33:39 listen to fizzie, he's our official statistician 13:34:02 A reasonably non-vandalizable mobile phone mast sounds doable. (Barring especially dedicated vandals, anyway.) 13:34:21 the harder you make something to vandalise, the more dedicated the vandals get 13:35:20 just turn up the signal level until the vandals cannot survive getting near it. 13:35:48 There's this 1:10^9 scale model of the solar system in Helsinki; the Earth/Moon model used to be a regular target for vandalism, so often that they had to reimplement it like this: http://www.ursa.fi/ursa/aurinkokuntamalli/eng/earth-en.html 13:36:06 I think there used to be a thin metal rod for the Moon. 13:36:39 what a bizarre thing to vandalise 13:36:59 And the Earth is just a hole; if you click on the "Mars" link you can see the others are spheres. 13:37:43 Saturn seems to have taken some damage too. 13:38:23 (The Neptune model is pretty nearby to the university.) 13:38:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:39:51 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 13:40:22 "The model of Pluto used to be near the Länsiväylä cycling/pedestrian bridge leading to Hanasaari, but it has been missing for a while. [note: The pages note that in 2000 that both the guide and Pluto were missing, but as of July 2004, the guide has been replaced but Pluto is still AWOL.] 13:40:27 [image] 13:40:30 Guys fishing and the info guide next to the Länsiväylä bridge rail. Pluto is either still missing or so small as to be impossible to see." 13:40:47 It's not a very well-maintained model. 13:42:03 But the "visit them all" route is still a reasonable bicycle trip, even if the attractions have been manhandled a bit. 13:45:46 * oerjan imagines opposing vandal gangs battling over whether pluto should be included or not 13:46:18 "The City of Helsinki and the Astronomical Society Ursa look after the models. Vandals have occasionally bothered the models. If you find that the models or their guide charts have been vandalized, Please call Ursa at 09 684 0400." 13:46:22 That's a nice verb to use. 13:46:32 "Oh, stop bothering Saturnus." 13:48:26 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 13:51:15 -!- FireFly has joined. 13:51:43 Yeah, the Finnish pages confirm what I thought: currently they have both Pluto and Charon represented by pins (2.5mm and 1.8mm in diameter) in the info board. (Also Pluto's included "for historical reasons".) 13:53:00 2.2 and 1.5, not 2.5 and 1.8. 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FF only has a meaning in a Trefunge source file. 16:39:06 Consider it noted. 16:39:41 cpressey: What of the way line breaks are treated in Unefunge? 16:39:41 Deewiant: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 16:40:34 Not sure I follow. Can you explain that? 16:40:52 "Subsequent lines in Unefunge are simply appended to the first, and the end of the source file indicates the end of the (single) line. End-of-line markers are never copied into Funge-Space." 16:40:56 -- spec 16:41:41 Sounds like a special case for Unefunge to me. 16:41:56 And FF is not an end-of-line marker :) 16:42:21 Seems to me that FF in Befunge is analogous to CR/NL/CRNL in Unefunge 16:43:08 That's entirely possible 16:43:21 Newline: increase Y, set X = 0 16:43:26 FF: increase Z, set X = Y = 0 16:43:39 Newline when Y doesn't exist: do nothing 16:43:47 FF when Z doesn't exist: ?? (my interpretation: do nothing) 16:45:05 OK. Well, I have FBBI down to 11 BADs (I thought it was 6 but then I realized you can't just grep for BAD in Mycology's output for some reason.) I don't know how many of these I plan to try to fix. 16:45:42 Some test failures prevent other tests from running, which is why you can get more after fixing something. 16:47:28 No, I mean it's really that "fbbi mycology.b98 | grep BAD" really doesn't return all the lines that have BAD on them. If I pipe the output into less, I see that some characters are highlighted. Is there some weird ANSI escape sequence thing going on in the output? 16:48:19 From my old Mycology results page: 16:48:21 FBBI’s help text describes a flag -fast with the words “more speed, at the cost of locking up in infinite loops”. Interestingly, all it does is that it prevents the output of the string " \b" whenever the IP moves. I’m told that this harks back to the days of DOS, wherein one could only interrupt a program when it did a system call, or some such. That would certainly explain the description. 16:48:27 The problem with it is that FBBI prints that even if the output is redirected to a file, which results in tonnes of binary interspersed with all the normal output. Hence, I recommend always running with -f passed—if you must use FBBI. 16:49:11 oh dear lord. ok 16:49:33 Your code, not mine. :-) 16:51:02 But wait, re your FF argument: if FF is analogous to NL, then it shouldn't even be loaded into the source (unless binary I/O is in effect -- in which case it should be loaded, and it should be considered unimplemented because it is outside 32-127.) 16:53:23 Yes, it shouldn't be loaded, that's correct. 16:54:22 -!- cal153 has joined. 16:55:02 The temptation to work on the Befunge-111 spec is strong. Well, thanks for discussing this, anyway, and thanks again for Mycology. I' 16:55:05 -!- impomatic has joined. 16:55:22 I'll probably release a new version of FBBI soon-ish, but it'll probably still have a handful of BADs. 16:55:34 And I should probably get back to work. 16:55:38 Later :) 16:55:41 See ya 16:55:41 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: leaving). 17:10:27 Hmm, an elliottless week. 17:14:02 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 17:14:11 -!- cheater- has joined. 17:15:43 hello blogs 17:21:47 impomatic: I have glogbotted. 17:22:09 impomatic: glogbot is public-access, so if you want a logger in #corewars then just ask the appropriate person to /invite it. 17:22:35 Gregor: thanks. Where does glogbot log to? 17:23:21 impomatic: See !logs 17:23:35 impomatic: (Although that URL is temporary, I'll move it to codu.org at some point) 17:25:38 is alise still on the hissy fit 17:28:47 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 17:29:12 -!- copumpkin has joined. 17:32:01 Gregor: thanks. Logging is set up :-) 17:41:46 cheater-: As far as we know. 17:42:20 Gregor: that's just silly. 17:47:16 -!- FireFly has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:47:24 cheater-: Don't complain :P 17:47:54 Gregor: do you see me complaining? i always enjoyed benny hill and other silly things :)) 17:48:46 -!- FireFly has joined. 17:54:56 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 17:59:43 -!- pumpkin has joined. 18:01:17 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:05:37 impomatic: Good thing you got a new logbot in #corewars, since clearly the place is hoppin' ;) 18:10:12 anyone know of a FFI for BF ? 18:10:55 Closest that have been done are things like PSOX. 18:11:03 Which isn't a general-purpose FFI of course. 18:11:06 But could probably be adapted to be so. 18:12:27 Gregor: I'm fine with a POSIX only FFI 18:12:53 Well, what I mean is it's not actually an FFI, it's just a binding to POSIX functions :P 18:13:01 Gregor: yeah - that should be fine 18:13:20 pikhq: holy shit, geohot is fucking crazy 18:13:45 variable: Well, then check out PSOX and make Sgeo happy X-P 18:14:57 Gregor: oh perfect - that is EXACTLY what I was looking for :-p 18:21:06 -!- cheater- has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:21:09 -!- cheater00 has joined. 18:35:27 -!- cheater- has joined. 18:35:43 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 18:38:11 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:39:02 -!- cheater99 has joined. 18:39:37 -!- asiekierka has joined. 18:39:59 -!- cheater- has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 18:48:31 -!- azaq23 has joined. 18:50:37 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 18:52:54 -!- pikhq has joined. 19:00:48 Latest 30-day allocations for APNIC: 2.420 blocks. Not counting today: 2.372 blocks. Entiere world not counting today: 2.724 blocks (87% by APNIC). 19:02:47 `lol 19:02:50 No output. 19:09:15 haha: " λ⃠ — point-free forever!" 19:12:12 -!- asiekierka has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:16:10 cheater99: omg citation 19:16:38 pumpkin: yes, and? 19:17:04 I was suggesting attributing it :) 19:17:10 -!- asiekierka has joined. 19:19:21 someone in #haskell 19:19:41 it's not like anyone cares about the identity of you faceless blogs 19:23:58 o.O 19:24:14 fine, be an asshole 19:33:13 -!- asiekierka has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:36:36 pumpkin: ? 19:38:56 -!- cheater99 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 20:04:50 -!- cheater- has joined. 20:14:20 -!- oerjan has joined. 20:15:53 pikhq, 19:19:41: it's not like anyone cares about the identity of you faceless blogs 20:25:19 -!- cheater00 has joined. 20:25:31 No, no, to 12:12 < pumpkin> pikhq: holy shit, geohot is fucking crazy 20:25:47 wait who's geohot and why is he crazy? 20:25:53 i recognize the nick 20:26:17 George Hotz of SCEA v. George Hotz et al fame. 20:26:27 SCEA? 20:26:27 oh ps3 breaker? 20:26:40 Phantom_Hoover: Sony Computer Entertainment of America. 20:26:43 http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?44568-Geohot-goes-crazy-respawns-as-Eminem-wannabe 20:26:51 Ah. 20:26:56 -!- cheater- has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:27:28 So, in other news, a Christmas card for my family sent from America arrived *today*. 20:27:35 3 guesses why. 20:28:24 it had anthrax 20:28:28 pikhq: he sent them his hard drives 20:28:35 pikhq: with the controller boards removed from them... 20:28:48 Sony was understandably not happy, and is accusing him of tampering with evidence 20:29:34 lol 20:29:55 he should have sent them his hard drives, except only readable by a special driver that swaps the bits in some fucked up way. 20:30:31 OR: send them his hard drives, except submerged in resin to protect the electronics inside! 20:31:00 Can I have a citation on this controller board thing? (And anyway, weren't those sent to a third party, not Sony at all?) 20:35:19 I think the funniest SCEA/Hotz thing I've read was when one of Sony's filed subpoenas to Paypal said just "1. PayPal, Inc. is directed to furnish all documents, including electronically stored information, in its possession, custody or control.", period, without specifying anything else. 20:35:33 That's quite a request. 20:39:58 lol nice 20:41:48 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 20:41:58 -!- pikhq has joined. 20:48:08 woooooot 20:48:21 i'm hoping for bartab to be fixed and working in firefox 4 before the end of the week 20:48:31 looks there's some nice activity in the repo! 20:56:41 -!- Sgeo has joined. 21:01:20 fizzie: It's in the SCEA filings. 21:01:32 fizzie: From the third party in question. 21:02:25 fizzie: As these are nominally competent analysts of hard drives, it seems they would have noticed that pretty instantly. 21:02:54 I'm inclined to accuse *them* of tampering with the evidence. 21:22:30 -!- impomatic has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.5.17/20110121150729]). 21:24:28 http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/undergrad/CSEMajorRequirements.html 21:24:36 Is this really that much better than my school? 21:24:42 Just the occasional math course 21:24:48 Erm, ok, a bit more 21:29:55 It seems somewhat engineering-oriented. And a smaller number of courses than I'd expect, but then again I don't really know anything about your educamational systems. 21:32:04 -!- pikhq has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 21:32:07 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 21:39:09 -!- cheater99 has joined. 21:40:26 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 21:41:52 http://zoom.it/pNiU 21:42:00 You might think that's just noise. 21:42:04 You'd be wrong. 21:43:34 -!- copumpkin has joined. 21:43:53 Phantom_Hoover: Are these DF bug reports or something? 21:44:03 Yes. Yes they are. 21:44:12 Pretty. 21:46:47 -!- pumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 21:47:58 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 21:50:44 Now that I look back what courses I took during the M.Sc degree, it's quite an incoherent collection. 21:51:48 MSc in what? 21:52:50 I don't know which one thing corresponds to the "what" in your parlance. We have the general study line, an "option", the major, and a set of minors. 21:54:10 I'm assuming it was in computering. 21:55:01 The "study program" was 'tietotekniikka', which I guess converts to "Computer Science and/or Engineering". (They're grouped together under the same roof here.) 21:55:58 are you a diplom engineer or a magister of philosophy? 21:56:25 Zwaarddijk: DI; just managed to graduate from TKK mere moments before it became Aalto. 21:56:34 (MSc seems to be a bit ambiguous between those) 21:57:11 (Here "mere moments" == four months or so.) 21:59:39 But (probably due to hysterical raisins) the path to a computer sciencey person includes some rather odd things, like courses on basic electronics. (Or at least did; maybe the study program revampings have made the contents more logical too.) 22:02:10 And an inexplicable physics labwork course, though I don't know how mandatory that was. Maybe it was this "with extra science" option I somehow ended up with, which included supersized maths and physics compared to the regular CSE study program contents. 22:12:09 Gah, crap. 22:12:11 "%$"£$%ing amygdala 22:13:31 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:13:51 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 22:13:59 Gah, crap. 22:14:01 "%$"£$%ing amygdala 22:15:45 pikhq_, remind me, how hard is it to remove it? 22:16:14 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 22:16:38 Phantom_Hoover: Absurdly. 22:16:39 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 22:16:47 :( 22:17:16 -!- sftp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:24:38 pikhq_, whyyyyyyyyyyy 22:25:08 -!- pumpkin has joined. 22:28:24 -!- copumpkin has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:35:09 -!- pumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 22:40:36 I have a depressing feeling that traffic analysis will show a noticeable drop in traffic over the last week. 22:40:46 s/in traffic// 22:41:30 Quite likely. 22:41:53 You try reasoning with him, he had no quarrel with you. 22:41:54 No elliott means conversation isn't guaranteed 20 hours a day. 22:42:00 I have. 22:42:12 Did he keep the persecution complex? 22:42:20 Not quite. 22:44:38 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 22:45:17 Oh, he's logreading. 22:45:22 Cute. 22:45:25 (Hi, elliott!) 22:45:45 How knowest þee? 22:45:59 He just PMed me. 22:46:03 Ah. 22:46:20 Saying the reason he left is not the reason I think he left. 22:49:17 fungot 22:49:17 Phantom_Hoover: fnord in the aarhus math department is worth a read. 22:49:39 I wonder which log he's reading DURPADURPA 22:50:03 Dunno, but now I'm even more curious. 22:52:48 He also said he's very unlikely to return. 22:53:38 Then why logread :P 22:57:23 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds). 23:00:45 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 23:00:52 Sorry, WiFi conked out. 23:01:33 I've been inspired to add a "stalker" interface to glogbot's logs :P 23:01:38 22:53:38: Then why logread :P ← pikhq messaged him. 23:02:34 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: swatted to death). 23:02:55 -!- nottwo has joined. 23:05:27 nottwo: Your web page is extremely elucidating :P 23:07:39 Gregor: yeah, i'm still in stealth mode :) 23:07:45 * Phantom_Hoover → sleep 23:07:47 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 23:08:42 seen cpressey 23:09:08 you're a few hours late for him 23:10:33 thanks 23:12:46 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 23:13:07 -!- pikhq has joined. 23:29:44 And, viola! 23:29:44 -!- copumpkin has joined. 23:29:59 http://gregorr.dyndns.org:8080/logs/stalker.php?channel=_esoteric Stalker mode! 23:30:05 not cello? 23:30:15 Viola as in "voila" :P 23:30:39 >_> 23:30:55 hm 23:31:06 what's that page supposed to do 23:31:30 It's for people who want to actively logread the channel without actually being in it :P 23:31:53 well anyway it doesn't work in IE 23:32:06 ... people use IE? 23:32:24 And no, it won't. 23:32:28 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:32:28 I care ALMOST as much as I care about making it work on Netscape 4. 23:32:30 <_< 23:32:40 It'll work on IE9 btw, and probably IE8. 23:32:41 -!- pikhq has joined. 23:32:46 So you're in some kind of version hell. 23:32:59 i've got 8 23:33:05 Oh, then I guess it won't :P 23:33:08 Oh well, I don't care at all. 23:33:13 You should use a browser that doesn't blow. 23:54:58 http://programming-motherfucker.com/ 23:57:56 -!- Sgeo has joined.