< 1301270424 327261 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029071.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301270522 586596 :TLUL|afk!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left NICK :TLUL < 1301270588 746865 :cheater-!~cheater@g231048169.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301271539 148930 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1301271545 68072 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle, the libc.so auction has started. < 1301271551 247772 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, IT HAS VANISHED FROM THE MATERIAL PLANE < 1301271875 222232 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301272408 467283 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1301273108 867628 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301273592 939680 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301273819 701629 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1301274009 399791 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301274871 429423 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have at least one active competitor for libc.so < 1301274923 971291 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it turned out.... IT WAS GREGOR FROM THE FUTURE < 1301275098 914609 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was sent back to prevent Ulrich Drepper from getting it, but something went wrong in the planning < 1301275386 227286 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"at least"? < 1301275796 929880 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301276455 881404 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301277315 674992 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301280950 527640 :TLUL!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left NICK :TLUL|afk < 1301281387 500748 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1301283335 19115 :TLUL|afk!~TLUL@wikia/The-last-username-left QUIT :Quit: *disappears in a puff of orange smoke* < 1301285493 518726 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's xkcd reminds me of a dream i had that i may have mentioned here before < 1301285753 962292 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you dream that xkcd would remind you of a dream? < 1301285792 149903 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the dream did not have anything to do with xkcd, afair < 1301285801 957617 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'd heard of xkcd then. < 1301285861 213704 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did include a wall map of the place i was in, that somehow became identical to the place itself. < 1301285937 771749 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when something touched the spot of the map where the map itself was, everything started dissolving into pixels. < 1301286011 917086 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was probably inspired by another comic i'd seen before with a similar theme. < 1301286069 767 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(someone pointing to the "you are here" mark on a map, and people around them panicking as a giant finger appears from the sky) < 1301286225 942950 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds PBF-like, but I don't recall any such PBF < 1301286255 29504 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's from the 90's at least. it may have been bizarro. < 1301286261 417003 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it was on paper) < 1301286338 90215 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i have a vague picture in my head that _looks_ like a bizarro comic < 1301286460 103134 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If my math is correct, I just helped pay off 10% of the debt. $1.50 divided by $15 trillion = 10% right?" < 1301286480 651877 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301286484 462471 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2116548608/help-erase-the-national-debt-of-the-usa/comments < 1301286576 249402 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a code that displays "Just another _______ hacker" with the name of the programming language filled in, working for these programming languages: C, C++, Perl, Plain TeX, PostScript, LaTeX, zsh, Bourne Shell. (For TeX, PostScript, and LaTeX, it prints the text on the paper) Now we could add in even more, including some esoteric programming, too. < 1301286618 479516 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you hated LaTeX < 1301286639 628629 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is true, I do not like LaTeX. However, I found this code. (I have not tested it at all) < 1301286713 741482 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I did not write this code. I do not even know how to write a code in PostScript.) < 1301286796 751586 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a polygot-like thing that prints whatever language it's being used as? < 1301286815 125520 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, that is what it is. < 1301286817 262313 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it differentiate between C and C++? < 1301286848 17352 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess C++ has comments that C doesn't, hmm < 1301286861 61656 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that is not how it does it. < 1301286872 533866 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to it maybe? < 1301286874 89499 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There it is: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?displaytype=displaycode;node_id=520121 < 1301286931 980488 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there is a difference in sizeof in C++? < 1301286983 86575 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does %: avoid being a syntax error in C and C++? < 1301287046 39491 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digraphs_and_trigraphs#C < 1301287531 46996 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301288718 912326 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it was bizarro indeed < 1301288776 944858 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm let me see if i can find that date on the web < 1301288809 798436 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :"++"+2*(1%sizeof'2') <-- that makes no sense to me < 1301288857 468377 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch wait < 1301288878 587603 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is sizeof '2' not 1 in C++? < 1301288895 115307 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but zero < 1301288914 878795 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second. That doesn't work. It is division by zero then < 1301288938 265378 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see how that code can ever work for C++... < 1301288963 204259 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it relies on undefined behaviour < 1301289029 555824 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is quite clear how it works for C, by advancing the pointer two steps you get the null string < 1301289091 731548 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, oerjan, zzo38: I'm confused, how can that code ever work for the C++ case? < 1301289096 99793 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301289187 204170 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, have to leave, cya < 1301289219 749151 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's March 21 1999, but i cannot find it on the web :( < 1301289257 434048 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know c++ < 1301289444 926256 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want 1%sizeof'2' to be 1 for c++ and 0 for c, i presume < 1301289483 50908 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming string pointers work the same in both < 1301289528 623370 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if sizeof'2' is anything > 1 in c++, that should work < 1301289644 240341 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i'm thinking backwards < 1301289660 637437 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c print "hi" < 1301289663 676452 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c print "hi"; < 1301289664 560641 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1301289674 918168 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("hi"); < 1301289677 693452 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1301289691 937488 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", (sizeof'2')); < 1301289694 143227 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1301289699 804345 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1301289711 621958 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is sizeof'2' 4? < 1301289713 282116 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c++ printf("%d", (sizeof'2')); < 1301289726 194993 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages < 1301289731 439084 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1301289731 740662 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1301289736 898737 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"help languages < 1301289741 286208 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1301289741 548430 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1301289741 849366 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1301289742 166196 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1301289743 634419 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1301289755 189486 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx printf("%d", (sizeof'2')); < 1301289762 324195 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1301289765 123095 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1301289790 248594 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that < 1301289795 60693 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just bizarre < 1301289800 294903 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is.. those things? < 1301289845 153639 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the size of a character constant 4 in C? < 1301289874 406602 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", (sizeof'1')); < 1301289876 542044 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1301289885 776954 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", (sizeof('1'))); < 1301289887 923230 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1301289910 86831 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1301289937 190250 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%c", '2'); < 1301289939 410508 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1301289960 652068 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A character constant in C is "int" type < 1301289965 846778 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1301290477 844148 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something C++ changes. < 1301290481 419764 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you tested that too. < 1301290484 553638 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just about. < 1301290644 204453 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that seems to explain the c/c++ difference in the polyglot < 1301290659 332749 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ also has multicharacter literals of type 'int'. < 1301290668 593521 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx printf("%d", sizeof('ab')) < 1301290673 635161 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1301290700 168553 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The actual value of such a thing is implementation-defined.) < 1301290722 859607 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cxx printf("%04x", (unsigned)'ab'); < 1301290727 888806 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :6162 < 1301290759 178727 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's I guess the obvious choice. < 1301290895 928202 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301291111 306298 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the polyglot uses the %: digraph for # in the #include part. < 1301291340 168938 :dbc!~daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301291358 940729 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c char *p = "unreadable"; if (1) <% printf("digraphs are so %s", &p<:2:>); %> < 1301291361 82119 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :digraphs are so readable < 1301291368 891695 :dbc!~daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301294903 39150 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: Write this somewhere else. < 1301296802 212934 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1301301364 109801 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1301306200 217317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301306700 787256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301306820 409256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301311003 940807 :cheater99!~cheater@g230230075.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301311035 429820 :cheater00!~cheater@g229029071.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301311958 431906 :ais523_!93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.192.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301314147 379682 :ais523_!93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.192.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301314733 373208 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-15-117.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301314745 548731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301315571 863272 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301315611 443110 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301315761 946096 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, this domain bidding site is evil/clever. < 1301315814 819214 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301315825 576062 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please note that when the leader of an auction is outbid in the last 24 hours of the scheduled auction close, the auction will extend to close 24 hours after the leader change occurred." < 1301315929 541503 :ais523_!93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.192.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301315970 570879 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301316075 615402 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301316164 960531 :ais523_!93bcc029@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.192.41 QUIT :Client Quit < 1301316225 210128 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so how goes the auction? < 1301316254 126555 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in the lead for libm but it now won't be closing 'til tomorrow, I'm not in the lead for libc but it's only at $60 and there's a week left. < 1301316313 156330 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so how much is libm up at then? < 1301316325 514191 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much already, $110 :P < 1301316465 744710 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :likely libc will go higher < 1301316474 375647 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is somewhat more famous than libm < 1301316527 10849 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, is this the yearly cost or a one-time cost you are bidding for? < 1301316553 518492 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One-time. < 1301316573 547423 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of bizarre universe has a bid for yearly-cost on a domain name :P < 1301316581 791909 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not paying hundreds/year on this shit :P < 1301316611 281815 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1301317246 608458 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it acceptable to wear a shirt twice not in a row without washing? < 1301318115 462680 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301318328 330434 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: depends on the type of shit < 1301318329 849233 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shirt < 1301318338 513131 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was intentional) < 1301318349 425082 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie: how dirty it is < 1301318370 851072 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is away
< 1301318847 670018 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301318848 63068 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1301318899 668209 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1301319131 435129 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301319319 126025 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1301320099 649999 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301320773 275125 :cheater00!~cheater@e181129210.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301320821 707955 :cheater99!~cheater@g230230075.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301320915 618999 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301321382 634803 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1301321550 464836 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301321589 585314 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301321685 974537 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-2-86.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301322762 51484 :cheater-!~cheater@e181134192.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301322858 624319 :cheater00!~cheater@e181129210.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301323394 635949 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301323817 534835 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :El Cheapo Hosting Inc upgraded my plan X-D < 1301324946 523433 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.187.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301325847 534750 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301326349 847263 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301327039 693279 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo reads godel's letter? http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/tex-is-great-what-is-tex/#comment-11392 < 1301327072 550374 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* zzo38 < 1301327944 581364 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-104-21.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1301328031 761456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301328201 781450 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC down 0.19: 2M to Pakistan, 32k to Singapore, 1M to South Korea, 2k+/32 to Japan, 2k to Indonesia, /32 to Hong Kong. < 1301328403 726896 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.187.237 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301328462 593001 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1301328574 416214 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :New depletion estimate (using the same random algo as the last time): Friday 15th April. < 1301328961 722738 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301329242 840646 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301329332 693345 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301329761 501153 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1301329774 814143 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats it called when you have two programs battling for memory? < 1301329794 118724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corewars? < 1301329797 652017 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya! < 1301329825 632310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301330234 727761 :cal153!~cal@c-24-4-207-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301331391 78441 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ping < 1301331400 964538 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301331999 910149 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1301332038 899846 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301332054 699625 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1301332287 708769 :cal153!~cal@70.36.237.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301332754 732281 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301332919 854889 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1301333107 98706 :cheater00!~cheater@e181052232.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301333169 920926 :cheater-!~cheater@e181134192.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301333433 939618 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301333444 554938 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1301334069 529771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1301334071 89938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1301334071 958311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:21:31: !c printf("%d", (sizeof'2')); < 1301334072 221291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:21:34: 4 < 1301334075 430254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:22:35: !cxx printf("%d", (sizeof'2')); < 1301334075 692547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:22:42: 1 < 1301334078 957160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C, '2' is an int < 1301334080 943658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++, '2' is a char < 1301334097 498187 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1301334166 713436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:00:46: Is it acceptable to wear a shirt twice not in a row without washing? < 1301334166 915254 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my cue < 1301334167 392620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1301334260 909295 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolelliott < 1301335122 982577 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@093105167222.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301335364 808616 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.187.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301335388 261602 :cheater99!~cheater@e181054186.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301335459 765562 :cheater00!~cheater@e181052232.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301335600 161005 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoop: 2.019 blocks this month. Crazy. < 1301336566 833956 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301338120 287476 :cheater00!~cheater@e181136007.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301338167 873187 :cheater99!~cheater@e181054186.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301338170 163425 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301338613 890115 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.115.118.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301338655 752490 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301338672 141228 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301338759 826397 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301338825 967175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301340163 859063 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.187.237 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301340396 825029 :cheater99!~cheater@e181140158.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301340407 585704 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot is now backed by glogbackup, running on Fly By Wire VPS Survisses™! < 1301340435 774257 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rest assured, should glogbot go down, Fly By Wire Inc. has your data. < 1301340477 959868 :cheater00!~cheater@e181136007.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1301340562 509627 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC relative allocations last 30 days: ~86% < 1301340826 932190 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relative to what? Total amount of allocations? < 1301340830 575293 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1301340883 747138 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP my advisor and the postdoc working on this project are both sitting AT MY DESK < 1301340895 729777 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPE NCC: 8.0%, AFRINIC: 3.5%, LACNIC: 1.4%, ARIN: 1.2% < 1301340903 234436 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all good as long as they're not sitting ON YOUR DESK. < 1301341116 547631 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At rate shown in last 30 days, RIPE NCC would deplete in about a year. Of course, there is considerable seasonal variation. < 1301341215 736129 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M SURROUNDED D-8 < 1301341311 250400 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : glogbot is now backed by glogbackup, running on Fly By Wire VPS Survissesā„¢! ā† is that the ultra-cheap one? < 1301341363 219717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, my idiot chemistry teacher has outdone herself. < 1301341384 990850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :She incoherently argued with me for several minutes that relative atomic masses are unitless. < 1301341419 958439 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's my name for the ultra-cheap one :P < 1301341423 962612 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.181.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301341688 228947 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But so far it actually seems just fine. Very get-what-you-pay-for, but no real problems. < 1301342241 371730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301342462 268117 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301342682 999848 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'M SURROUNDED D-8 < 1301342689 513585 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you must blast your way out < 1301342709 984252 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do a barrel roll! < 1301342718 938809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, quick, I'll use the Device! < 1301343396 66242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor is stunned into silence by the extremity of the measure. < 1301343442 306951 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm just STILL SURROUNDED >_< < 1301343533 48468 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKOKOK < 1301343543 356030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your coƶrdinates? < 1301343570 445467 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.181.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Device? < 1301343580 540706 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, *the Device < 1301343611 117605 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.181.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this the Device? < 1301343809 101933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You *don't* want to know. < 1301344315 301403 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOMENTARY FREEDOM < 1301344316 692302 :Gregor!~Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*breathes* < 1301344359 142792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK RUN, AND RUN QUICKLY < 1301344369 631735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MAY WANT TO POUR A DRINK ON YOUR HEAD < 1301344435 972732 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@137.125.181.62 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301344840 388539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGEO KNOWS THE DANGER < 1301345212 268542 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@72.18.51.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301345397 575968 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@72.18.51.33 QUIT :Client Quit < 1301345552 401453 :sftp_!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301346174 250324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ā†’
< 1301346178 711269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1301346493 422777 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301347494 704507 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301347699 625844 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301347828 939949 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301347994 103754 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-2-86.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1301348019 693647 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301350119 910176 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1301350633 396729 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.115.118.174 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.5.18/20110319140258] < 1301351158 500664 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Taking out the thrash < 1301351419 477747 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301351420 279462 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1301352016 231893 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1301352196 549447 :nooga!nooga@jasminek.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses windows 7
< 1301352200 503713 :nooga!nooga@jasminek.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a fail < 1301352329 680420 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1301352489 244120 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301352843 53269 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... you suck so bad < 1301352864 984978 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1301353975 585805 :cheater00!~cheater@g224201071.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1301354132 33083 :cheater99!~cheater@e181140158.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1301354155 779127 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1301354614 985079 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301355488 35868 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1301355761 367192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1301355768 151852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : If p is a pointer, is p[-1] defined equivalent to *(p-1)? I know array[-1] is undefined. < 1301355771 617150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :##C is fucking useless < 1301355825 543171 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect it to be that in practice... check a spec < 1301356034 458099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, yes. < 1301356042 580895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I'll find a pyrate C89 standard. < 1301356139 706697 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a draft: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/WG14/www/docs/n1256.pdf < 1301356183 213948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://flash-gordon.me.uk/ansi.c.txt ;; is greppable. < 1301356196 454866 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1301356229 480754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like [] isn't even defined for pointers X_X < 1301356269 126969 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um i'm pretty sure i've read that a[b] is precisely equal to *(a+b) ... < 1301356276 343623 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: array[-1] is only undefined because *(array-1) is out of bounds usually < 1301356277 380753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is, for arrays < 1301356282 946844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm trying to find the definition for pointers :) < 1301356284 206602 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3["abc"] and all that... < 1301356287 532391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course. < 1301356291 542346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but the C standard is wily. < 1301356291 835196 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually, it isn't defined for arrays < 1301356295 900647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: anyway it is not precisely equal. < 1301356296 764205 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is equivalent for pointers < 1301356303 245950 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrays just decay into pointers < 1301356303 508511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo[n] is only defined for 0 <= n < array length < 1301356306 841747 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wrong < 1301356313 525219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, *(foo+n) is only defined for 0 <= n < array length < 1301356318 84957 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1301356327 225760 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= array length, iirc < 1301356340 445568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int foo[3]; /* I very much doubt foo[3] is well-defined */ < 1301356341 104380 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1301356344 401940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :array indexing is from 0 < 1301356369 834954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1301356370 96320 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo+n is for n <= array length, but you may not be able to dereference it i guess < 1301356379 989890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1301356382 656174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo+2394872349 is also ok < 1301356386 812235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just can't dereference it without UB < 1301356399 186802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i don't even want that, it seems :( < 1301356400 679490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i want is < 1301356405 732895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct foo { blah *foo[0]; } < 1301356408 689066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is invalid right from the start < 1301356412 543291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I want to do x->foo[-1] < 1301356417 661383 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, i vaguely recall that it is perfectly possible for pointer arithmetic outside those bounds to crash < 1301356417 860905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is definitely invalid, I think < 1301356426 704336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Errrrr, I hope not < 1301356429 212000 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you don't dereference < 1301356495 354713 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure i've seen something like that < 1301356512 847317 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise why include foo+array length as a specifically permitted case < 1301356558 254002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it does < 1301356562 750787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw it's not so much "to crash" as "UB" ;D < 1301356568 514465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :demons, noses, suchlike < 1301356578 748357 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1301356599 667010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just do the invalid thing :) < 1301356667 755337 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i used crash as a synonym, of course