00:05:19 Google Alerts tells me it found my name here: http://twitter.com/cerias/status/55662898420260864 00:05:25 Now, Google Alerts was of course right. 00:05:35 The question is, why did CERIAS feel the need to tweet every bloody poster? 00:05:46 Gregor: Because they love you. 00:06:07 Also: lol @ having a Google Alert on your own name :P 00:06:14 Narcissism: I has it. 00:08:51 -!- sftp has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 00:09:19 -!- sftp has joined. 00:16:25 -!- sftp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 00:56:21 Like, it should be, if you make a program with WEB or Enhanced CWEB or whatever, you should publish the book and include a DVD in the back cover of the book, for loading the program into your computer. 00:57:34 AHW*(R()E*TH(WEHGISGH 00:58:24 What is "AHW*(R()E*TH(WEHGISGH"? 00:59:40 Yes. 01:00:09 the ancient gothic god of mismatched brackets 01:17:21 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 01:40:22 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 02:07:08 -!- WHARRGARBL has changed nick to coWHARRGARBL. 02:18:33 -!- calamari has joined. 02:21:23 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 02:27:20 coWHARRGARBL: lol 02:27:30 WHARRRGARBL 02:27:40 coWHARRGARBL: hello 02:32:52 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 02:37:28 * tswett investigates Google Alerts. 02:37:48 There's only one result for my name, and it's false. 02:38:50 Ivan Hope, or Tanner Swett? or Warrigal? 02:39:03 My actual real name. 02:39:07 I.e. the latter. 02:39:09 Ivan Hope then! 02:39:15 The latter is Warrigal :P 02:39:25 The latter is the second of two. 02:39:25 wow, the Christian Party are Poe's Law exemplified 02:39:28 replace the standard of 'beyond reasonable doubt' with the more biblical 'evidence of two or three reliable witnesses' in the criminal justice system. 02:39:36 Hmm 02:39:37 lat·ter/ˈlatər/Adjective 02:39:38 1. Situated or occurring nearer to the end of something than to the beginning. 02:39:38 2. Belonging to the final stages of something. More » 02:39:42 latter 02:39:42 relating to or being the second of two items 02:39:43 near (or nearer) to the end 02:39:43 close (or closer) to the present time 02:39:57 Since there were three items, I was interpreting it as the obvious generalisation as the last one 02:39:59 I'm using it in the former sense. :P 02:40:08 In Wales the party wants to change the Welsh flag, because it views the red dragon as a satanic symbol, they would replace it with the cross of Saint David.[10] 02:40:18 I've... actually not used "latter" to mean "last". I think of it as meaning "all but first". 02:40:31 So out of three options, I would think of the latter two. 02:40:41 Anyway, "Tanner Swett" is what I searched for. 02:40:42 the latter N is the last N, I would say 02:41:01 Indeed. 02:41:02 The options are A, B, C and D; the latter two have the problem that they're gay, the first has the problem that it sucks, and the second has the problem that it's made out of fish. 02:41:55 ais523: Have you ever ran a Perl script over GCC's output? 02:42:11 elliott: I don't think so 02:42:19 It's quite errr, enlightening 02:42:31 What I'm saying is, dear god someone tell Gregor he's mad. 02:42:32 I've ran a Perl script over makefiles generated during gcc's build process before now, though 02:43:03 * tswett searches for 'john powell' and finds that most of the results are for the wrong word. 02:43:09 Why does John Powell have to be so many people? 02:43:47 ais523: you too! There must be... at least 523 of you! 02:43:57 Gregor: you're an evil mangler 02:45:47 tswett: I think so; there are 10 Alex Smiths more famous than me, imagine how many must be less famous 02:46:32 billions and billions 02:46:49 I do not think there is any need to change the flag, since it already exists. The red dragon can also be seen as a red dragon instead of a satanic symbol; although if there are more than enough people that prefer change the flag to the cross, then maybe they should do so. I myself don't care much as I do not live there. 02:46:58 I'm pretty sure that a majority of people on Earth are named Alex Smith. 02:47:33 tswett: What percentage do you expect? I know someone who had the same name as a few people and caused confusion, someone thought he was their boss even though he wasn't. 02:48:08 gah, the label has failed 02:48:13 I expect... 0.1%. 02:48:16 this is so brittle 02:48:24 That may be a bit high, come to think of it. 02:48:34 * tswett shrugs. 02:48:51 tswett: 6.79 million people are called Alex Smith?!?!?!?! 02:49:00 they could found a fucking country 02:49:11 "morning Alex" 02:49:12 "morning!" 02:49:15 "where you off to, Alex?" 02:49:17 "ah, just going to work" 02:49:23 "Ah, hello, I'm here to see Mr. Smith" 02:49:26 "Which one?" 02:49:35 Oh, wait. I'm assuming everyone has an Englishy name. 02:49:40 :D 02:50:27 moon power bitches 02:50:56 Okay, let's assume that... 6% of all people have Englishy names. 02:51:07 Then the number becomes 0.006%, I believe. 02:51:28 Then there are only, like, 400,000 of ais523. 02:52:28 Ihope there are not too many ais523. It would Warrigal me a lot and I might even break out into tswett. 02:52:37 (Warrigal: SOUNDS LIKE "WORRY") 02:55:58 you know, if everyone had the same name you'd have to start giving auxiliary names to tell all the alex smiths apart 02:56:14 and eventually you could just drop the alex smith part 02:57:27 :D 02:57:38 I'm Alex Smith Jacque Loutique. 02:57:44 Oh, hi. I'm Alex Smith Azerbajan Remi. 02:57:54 (ELLIOTT MAKES UP NAMES) 02:58:25 alex is good, because it could be short for both alexander and alexandra 02:58:25 tswett: HELLO 02:58:43 It could also be short for Alxe-wielding insane hobo. 02:58:43 so you could definitely start and maintain a country where everyone has that name 02:58:44 The l is silent. 03:00:13 -!- elliott has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:00:18 -!- elliott has joined. 03:00:21 HELLO HELLO HELLO 03:06:27 heo heo heo 03:07:59 tswett is actually a elephant. did you know? 03:08:13 So, a friend gave me a password to something 03:08:19 So I'm logged in as her 03:08:22 Kinky. 03:08:30 *So, 03:09:22 Sgeo__: We're still waiting for the point. 03:09:31 No point 03:09:34 I just feel weird 03:11:02 we've waited for the point for years 03:11:33 Sgeo__: you know who *else* dressed up in the skin of women? 03:11:54 IT PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR ELSE IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN 03:12:33 *RUBS 03:13:56 hmm, the sequences are even longer than i remember 03:15:01 smell my breakfast bitch 03:15:20 sorry, i don't eat dogs 03:15:42 let's see... 9 + let's say 29 (cba to count them all) + 03:15:58 7 + 03:16:02 5 + 03:16:07 no wait 03:16:09 that's just the most important posts 03:16:23 9 + 29 + 14 + 03:16:42 21 + 03:17:08 14 + 03:17:19 5 + 03:17:30 24 + 03:17:53 28 + 03:17:58 15 + 03:18:01 83 + 03:18:02 holy fucking fuck how many fucking posts are there 03:18:09 oerjan: i'm actually counting blog posts here 03:18:19 * oerjan whistles evilly 03:18:21 18 + 03:18:24 * elliott adds the totals so far 03:18:38 162 + 03:18:48 7 + 11 + 03:18:55 12 + 03:19:07 are you counting all the blog posts, or some particular category? 03:19:27 17 + a bit (minor subsequences) 03:19:43 olsner: I'm counting the number of blog posts that together constitute Less Wrong's Sequences 03:20:01 aka what you get told to go and read the entirety of if you comment on less wrong and someone disagrees :D 03:20:09 6 + 03:20:26 current total: 215 + a bit 03:20:49 24 + 03:20:58 9 + 03:21:05 8 + 03:21:16 15 + 03:21:46 38 + 03:22:12 31 03:22:36 so in the *main* Sequences series, there's 340 posts. plus dependencies. 03:23:01 misc. Yudkowsky sequences: 03:23:14 7 + 11 + 03:23:31 evolution posts that i'm too sick of this to count + 03:23:40 13 03:23:43 + 03:23:50 14 + more 03:24:00 i'm not going to count other people's sequences because this is FUCKING ENOUGH 03:24:19 so the total is 385 plus dependencies plus ones that nobody bothered to include in the lists because there's too fucking many 03:24:24 olsner: oerjan: any questions 03:24:44 only "wat?" 03:25:04 what are you talking about? 03:25:21 olsner: do you know what Less Wrong is, because if not i can't even hope to give an answer :) 03:25:34 nope, I don't 03:25:36 oops! i missed one 03:25:50 28 03:25:52 whatever 03:26:01 olsner: then i'm not even going to bother trying to explain :) 03:26:10 okelidokeli 03:26:31 *okely dokely, you stupid scannd 03:26:40 w/e 03:27:06 now, i'm fairly sure oerjan knows, so i'm going to say OVER 385 POSTS FFFFFFFFF 03:27:34 so basically the sequences are longer than the somplete sacred texts of some major religions? 03:27:41 *complete 03:27:41 oerjan: :D 03:27:50 oerjan: i dunno, the bible is easily 400 blog posts i'm sure :) 03:28:02 especially if you include all the rationalisations from way back when to present 03:28:06 and err "interpretations" 03:28:07 i guess it depends on post length 03:28:15 oerjan: yudkowsky length 03:28:23 'nuff said 03:28:36 um those are long aren't they... 03:28:42 quite :P 03:28:51 but i mean 03:28:58 a page or two of the bible would easily fill a yudkowsky post 03:29:10 and the bible is pretty long... 03:30:23 Some books of the Bible are rather short 03:32:14 There are 1,281 pages in the Bible (Old and New Testament combined), including 66 different "books"... 03:32:16 clearly a reliable source 03:32:18 anyway it's a long book 03:32:40 seriously though. 03:32:42 jesus fuck. 03:34:20 The number of pages should depend what print edition you have? The number of different books, though, should remain the same (unless it differs by counting apocrypha/deutrocanonical or not) 03:35:59 From a long lineof virgins? 03:36:44 wtf, how did this happen 03:36:56 oh 03:36:57 it erased dead code 03:36:59 fucking fuckshit 03:38:29 I give up until Gregor mangles labels :P 03:38:31 Or I guess I could. 03:38:33 But it sounds painful. 03:40:12 Wait... he DOES... 03:41:51 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 03:42:47 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:42:51 * calamari wishes he could fork off a copy of himself then join later 03:43:13 you can, just think about two things at once 03:43:17 or do you mean physically 03:43:33 physically :) 03:43:47 meh, who cares about atoms? 03:43:49 although maybe you could write code and play videogames at the same time, you're pretty bright :) 03:44:01 that's a physical issue, mostly 03:44:03 wrt control 03:44:10 and the fact that it's hard to look at two things at once 03:44:22 also, videogaming tends to be a multi-core kind of thing, it uses all the available system resources 03:46:35 calamari: mind you, the human brain's low thread limit is also a physical issue :) 03:46:51 yeah my brain is mostly single threaded 03:47:17 I'm one of those people whjere if I'm driving, it's dangerous for me to be doing much of anything else 03:47:24 i look forward to moving into some leet 128-core brain hardware in the future 03:47:30 preferably digital too, to stop all these stupid bits flipping 03:49:29 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Thai dung). 03:54:26 -!- Zuu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:59:25 -!- Zuu has joined. 04:00:10 -!- coWHARRGARBL has changed nick to failedhipster. 04:01:07 -!- failedhipster has changed nick to copumpkin. 04:02:40 -!- kwertii has joined. 04:10:52 tswett is no longer a duck. he is now a bear. 04:13:00 -!- Zuu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 04:21:04 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:23:53 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 04:37:21 -!- asiekierka has joined. 04:39:53 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 04:43:54 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:02:04 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:04:23 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:04:28 I had an idea of music file format, how well would it work? There are three parts: a MIDI sequence, a synthesizer program, and a conversion table from MIDI note numbers to other numbers (usually the frequency of the notes, but can be used for whatever purpose you want). 05:06:37 The MIDI sequence would consist of four threads, each with four registers: instruction counter, delta counter, loop counter, and auxiliary counter. It can also contain external signal messages, which might be used for singing text or whatever. 05:06:57 -!- elliott has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 05:10:38 The synthesizer program would have sixteen threads, one for each MIDI channel, with 128 registers each (changeable by the program itself as well as by MIDI control change messages); in addition, there are 128 programs which one is used on which channel is selected by a MIDI program change message. 05:11:08 -!- asiekierka has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:11:27 Is it good? Is it sensible? 05:17:11 In addition, there can be some special programs that can be selected instead of writing your own; these could include one to just play sample data (as a module tracker program might do). 06:17:10 -!- celticwench has joined. 06:17:47 hello all :) 06:22:47 -!- kwertii has quit (Quit: bye). 06:38:22 -!- celticwench has quit (Quit: Byeeee.....eyyy...eyyyy....). 06:40:31 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 06:41:27 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 07:28:47 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:40:40 -!- Lymia has quit (Quit: ==(>^w^)> ==(> >.<)>). 07:49:39 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:51:53 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 07:54:18 -!- Lymia has joined. 07:54:18 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 07:54:18 -!- Lymia has joined. 07:54:18 Do you know Giveaway Chess (also called Losing Chess and Suicide Chess)? 07:54:40 -!- Lymia has quit (Client Quit). 07:58:20 -!- Lymia has joined. 07:58:20 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 07:58:20 -!- Lymia has joined. 07:59:35 -!- Lymia has quit (Client Quit). 08:06:50 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 08:11:47 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:21:22 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: zzo38). 08:30:09 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 08:31:47 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:31:58 -!- Lymia has joined. 08:31:58 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 08:31:58 -!- Lymia has joined. 08:39:00 -!- Lymia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:41:00 -!- Lymia has joined. 08:47:18 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 08:47:59 -!- Lymia has quit (Quit: ==(>^w^)> ==(> >.<)>). 08:49:49 -!- Lymia has joined. 08:49:49 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 08:49:49 -!- Lymia has joined. 08:51:45 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 08:57:08 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 09:14:35 -!- Imk0tter has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:14:50 -!- Imk0tter has joined. 09:33:57 -!- calamari has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:47:03 -!- cheater- has joined. 09:49:23 -!- cheater00 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:10:34 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 10:12:51 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 10:27:53 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 10:32:46 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 10:44:20 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 10:52:49 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 11:08:31 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 11:12:45 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 11:31:09 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:32:57 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 11:48:03 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 11:52:58 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 12:06:14 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 12:33:18 -!- Sgeo__ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 12:59:30 -!- FireFly has joined. 13:41:49 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:45:40 -!- Ilari_antrcomp has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 13:46:08 -!- copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 13:47:00 -!- Ilari has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:48:03 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:51:54 -!- sftp has joined. 13:54:01 critical vlc failure. On this DVD it shows I'm at 05:01/00:17 14:08:57 -!- augur has joined. 14:23:51 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 14:27:08 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 14:30:21 -!- asiekierka has joined. 14:32:04 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:33:33 -!- augur has joined. 14:38:06 -!- SimonRC has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 14:38:13 -!- SimonRC has joined. 14:55:39 -!- Ilari has joined. 15:02:14 -!- Ilari_antrcomp has joined. 15:06:32 -!- Sgeo has joined. 15:24:56 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 15:27:05 -!- augur has joined. 15:27:33 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 15:32:03 -!- Zuu has joined. 15:32:54 APNIC down 0.02 (6930944, 0.413 blocsk left): 3x8k+4k+1k+/32+/48 to Australia, 32k+4k to China, 3x4k+1k to Japan, 32k to South Korea, 1k to Philippines, 2k+2x1k+/32 to Singapore, 4x16k to Vietnam, 2k+1k to Vanatu. Slow day. 15:34:18 New depletion estimate: Monday 18th April. 15:41:02 -!- cpressey has joined. 15:48:50 -!- elliott has joined. 15:49:07 19:20:02 * SgeoN1 vaguely wonders where his dad is 15:49:07 19:32:18 In case anyone was worried or otherwise cares: don't be 15:49:07 19:32:22 He's ok 15:49:07 THANK GOD 15:49:38 oh hi cpressey 15:51:28 hi elliott 15:51:53 is/was cpressey zomgmodules? 15:52:25 you can't say ((car (quote (cdr car))) (quote (a b))) in Scheme, but you can say *[*[*car [*cdr *car]] [a b]] in Bizaaro-Pixley! 15:54:05 cpressey: erm the scheme equivalent is 15:54:14 ((car (quasiquote ((unquote cdr) (unquote car) ... 15:54:17 which DOES work :P 15:54:23 or you could use lambdas 15:54:55 does bizaaro-pixley have lambdas? 15:55:00 yes 15:55:04 I'd just allow any quoted cons to be used as a function 15:55:11 and bind its single argument to "x" or something :) 15:55:21 or maybe have it like [x *[car *x]] 15:55:27 that would be slightly more reasonable 15:55:29 i'm sure you would 15:55:42 well picolisp would too :p 16:00:01 thus concludes this morning's session of leaving elliott nonplussed 16:00:05 back later 16:00:07 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: leaving). 16:01:12 morning? what a joker, it's just 19h past bedtime 16:01:48 :D 16:02:40 so I think I'll just have breakfast and go to bed 16:06:59 fuuuck. Maybe elliott knows the answer to this: 16:07:11 .IFO detected. Redirecting to dvd:// 16:07:12 There are 2 titles on this DVD. 16:07:12 There are 1 angles in this DVD title. 16:07:19 how do I get mplayer to play the second title 16:07:43 I can't get mplayer to even open the dvd menu, and vlc opens it but I can't find the second title 16:10:39 you give it the option for selecting a title, or you press the button for going to the next title 16:10:43 obv. 16:11:03 olsner: breakfast? Swedes have breakfast? 16:11:09 i thought all meal times were Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Times 16:11:19 Vorpal: it's... part of the path 16:11:22 dvd://something/something 16:11:23 I think 16:11:30 yes, breakfast *is* a regular ordinary swedish meal time 16:11:43 olsner: CRUSH THE CEREAL 16:11:47 elliott, hm 16:11:54 including the pre-breakfast snack: it's good for you 16:11:56 DVD Playback 16:11:56 As mentioned above, MPlayer does not support the playback of DVD menus. To play the first title on a DVD, use 16:11:56 $ mplayer dvd:// 16:11:56 If the first title is not the main movie, try playing other titles: 16:11:57 $ mplayer dvd://2 16:11:59 $ mplayer dvd://3 16:12:01 http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/MPlayer 16:12:06 elliott, but it doesn't even want to accept dvd:// when it is a file on the disc. I have to give it the .IFO file thingy 16:12:07 Vorpal: the great juffgy triumphs once again 16:12:20 v 16:12:21 elliott, as in... file on hard disk 16:12:22 Vorpal: erm 16:12:33 Vorpal: try /home/arvid/poop.ifo/blah 16:12:34 elliott, I don't have the dvd handy. I have the ripped stuff 16:12:38 elliott, hah 16:12:38 and stick a dvd:// in front if that doesn't help :) 16:12:54 mplayer [dvd|dvdnav]://[title|[start_title]-end_title][/device] 16:13:01 Vorpal: dvd://2/home/arvid/blah 16:13:02 presumably 16:13:19 elliott, hm 16:13:23 dunno what dvdnav is mind you 16:13:32 ah 16:13:34 menu support :D 16:13:39 used with keypad! 16:13:47 elliott, dvd://2//home/arvid/blah even 16:13:55 but i think my previous address should work 16:14:11 elliott, nope, it was a relative path :P 16:14:16 so you need an extra / 16:14:23 perfectly sensible 16:14:54 but what the crap. This isn't the stuff I expect. This is just the logo. -_- 16:18:03 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 16:18:17 Vorpal fails to watch a movie 16:24:06 olsner, quite. Meh. Will have to find it another way 16:25:08 Vorpal: or you could just try title 3, 4 16:25:12 or use dvdnav 16:25:26 I hear there are places where people set up the movie for you, you just sit there and it rolls 16:25:40 olsner, I doubt this one would be sent there. It is old. 16:26:03 olsner, besides I can google for stuff in it at the same time. And no popcorn 16:26:05 yay 16:26:26 the sound of crunching popcorn is annoying 16:26:40 crunchcrunch 16:26:54 it's less annoying if you're the one making it 16:26:57 olsner, I doubt this one would be sent there. It is old. 16:27:01 ^ worst excuse for porn ever 16:27:16 elliott, hahahaha. You must have a very strange taste. 16:27:30 elliott, to consider Cosmos by Carl Sagan... porn. 16:27:52 carl sagan porn? ewww :/ 16:27:59 olsner, my reaction indeed! 16:28:04 olsner, what can elliott be up to 16:28:11 gross 16:28:16 this is worse than auto-tuning his voice 16:28:21 Vorpal is a sicko 16:28:22 elliott, hey it is you who made that up! 16:28:23 http://codu.org/tmp/reverb-2011-04-11.ogg <-- check out the sweet room reverb generator I made :) 16:28:51 Gregor: Are you actually writing a whole music conductor program thing :P 16:29:00 elliott: One step at a time, yes. 16:29:01 Gregor, why is there so much noise in it? 16:29:12 Vorpal: Because I don't mix very well, I'm working on it :P 16:29:15 Gregor: What were you using before 16:29:24 Gregor, sure you didn't turn on the LP effect? 16:29:29 elliott: fluidsynth, sox, and no conductor program. 16:29:40 variable: Har-dee-har. 16:29:43 Erm 16:29:46 Vorpal: ^^^ 16:29:48 Yeah, that variable. 16:29:51 Always such a joker. 16:30:04 Also, I conclude that Vorpal has never heard an LP, ever. 16:30:44 elliott, actually I had. And yes the noise is somewhat different. This is more like bad cassette recording or such. 16:31:03 Would you jerkfaces focus on the reverb instead of the noise :P 16:31:17 Gregor, what reverb? Can I hear a before/after to compare? 16:31:27 I haven't focussed on the noise 16:31:39 My professional opinion is that it sounds like reverb, though 16:31:58 Gregor: Now turn the reverb up 16:31:58 to 16:32:00 another non-essential thing to concentrate on: nice music 16:32:00 MAXIMUM 16:32:06 elliott, is that 11? 16:36:26 *oh* found it. The box says something else than the discs say. Part 2 is on disc 2. Even though nothing else indicate this is the case. Oh well. 16:37:42 so every disc except the first has two episodes 16:37:43 okay 16:37:52 -!- wareya_ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 16:41:28 (I assumed it was the last one that had just one episode, which the box indicated too) 17:13:18 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 17:13:43 -!- sebbu has joined. 17:13:43 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 17:13:43 -!- sebbu has joined. 17:16:19 -!- cpressey has joined. 17:17:22 hm, you can also say ((car (list cdr car)) (quote (a b))) in Scheme, because list evaluates its arguments. 17:18:05 indeed 17:18:24 (quasiquote (unquote cdr) (unquote car)) = (cons cdr (cons car '())) = (list cdr car) 17:18:31 -!- monqy has joined. 17:18:39 and bizarro-Pixley [] is quasiquote, and * is unquote 17:18:59 with the whole thing being in a sort of implicit (car (quasiquote ...)) 17:19:04 (for *x at the top level) 17:19:12 erm 17:19:21 (car (quasiquote (... ()))) 17:19:22 that is 17:19:44 no, there's no quasiquote in bizaaro-Pixley, just quote and eval 17:20:22 er, with quote being implicit 17:20:30 cpressey: what is the result of [*[*+ *2 *2] blah] in a hypothetical bizarro-Pixley with those functions and integers? 17:20:40 elliott: [*[*+ *2 *2] blah] 17:20:55 what is the result of *[car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] 17:20:56 well, no, malformed, because you have a triple in there :) 17:21:09 you know what I mean :) 17:21:15 pretend triples exist :p 17:21:38 *[car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] => error, because evaling a pair where the lhs is not a function is an error (but i'm considering changing the meaning of evaling a pair, so stay tuned) 17:21:52 what is the result of *[*car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] 17:22:33 *[*car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] => error because *4 is not a function 17:22:53 um 17:22:56 what is the result of [*car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] 17:23:03 hm, wait 17:23:11 your semantics, they is incoherent to me 17:23:34 i'm fairly sure what you have is [a b] = (quasiquote (a . b)) and *x = (unquote x)... 17:23:35 *[*car [*[*+ *2 *2] blah]] => *4 17:23:44 then yes, you have quasiquote and unquote 17:23:46 i think. i don't know, i don't have fricken integers! 17:23:50 if [] was quote, then you'd just get 17:23:53 *[*+ *2 *2] 17:23:54 back 17:24:14 not quite 17:24:21 car takes a pair 17:24:25 and does things to it 17:24:31 it's not a general quasiquote 17:24:41 so does car actually get the car and then evaluate that? 17:24:47 yes 17:25:00 i'll hold off thinking about this until there's an implementation :-P 17:25:15 there is one, but i'm holding off releasing it until i decide i like it a lot 17:25:51 meh, all languages are just inferior versions of thue 17:28:16 i have some ideas about making cons superfluous and replacing lambdas with "pure closures", but they're just ideas right now 17:28:26 who needs closurse? 17:28:29 *closures? 17:31:18 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 17:31:18 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 17:31:18 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 17:34:11 -!- wareya has joined. 17:34:33 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 17:35:13 elliott: ah lahks lexical bindings 17:35:33 cpressey: when john mccarthy made lisp 1.0 did he use lexical bindings NO HE DID NOT 17:35:36 are you questioning mccarthy 17:36:39 yes, i am 17:36:57 Mr. McCarthy, isn't it true you have been seen in the presence of several known members of the Communist Party? 17:37:22 oh he isn't here 17:37:22 oops 17:38:50 -!- wareya has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds). 17:38:57 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:39:05 hi ais523456789 17:45:43 -!- cpressey has quit (Quit: leaving). 17:49:34 I should try to get uplink demo running hm 17:50:01 ooh nice.... a self-extracting shellscript 17:50:03 "fun" 17:50:54 .setup17415: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 17:50:57 gnh 17:52:40 ./lib/uplink.bin.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 17:52:41 gah 17:53:31 elliott, I think dynamic linking is acceptable when it is for core distro package. But not for "binary blobs" 17:56:47 okay it kind of starts now 17:58:09 -!- copumpkin has joined. 18:00:15 -!- asiekierka has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 18:02:23 -!- Sgeo has joined. 18:05:11 -!- wareya has joined. 18:10:57 -!- ais523 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 18:26:06 elliott, I got uplink running fine. However it is made for lower DPI screens 18:41:17 -!- kassioms has joined. 18:42:16 -!- kassioms has left. 18:43:49 -!- oerjan has joined. 18:49:24 carl sagan porn? ewww :/ 18:49:31 http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceporn 18:49:41 i think that's close enough 18:50:02