< 1303257646 668437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303257672 545507 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061097.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303257852 58548 :cheater-!~cheater@g224201192.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303258018 648838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :# In the United States, CJD deaths among persons younger than 30 years of age are extremely rare (fewer than five deaths per billion per year[citation needed]). < 1303258029 271950 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is such a stupid way of phrasing it. < 1303258058 218552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got to be something along the lines of 3 people under 30 died of it ever. < 1303258133 431435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1997 a number of Kentuckians contracted the disease. It was discovered that all the victims had consumed squirrel brains. < 1303258140 517477 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*A number*. < 1303258152 907848 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not just one or two nutcases. < 1303258156 213127 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*A number*. < 1303258253 664894 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 NICK :augur[afk] < 1303258259 366986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, it's paywalled. < 1303258264 57791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...except in Norway. < 1303258276 778440 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, oerjan, where are you when I need you. < 1303258351 308118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan At the first available opportunity, go to the Norwegian link in http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673605633338 and transfer it to my possession... somehow. < 1303258351 485659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303258459 78484 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Two is a number. < 1303258475 502442 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: For that matter, so is one. And zero. < 1303258482 431051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, yes, but you don't say "a number" in that case. < 1303258518 343572 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number of people in this channel fail to realize the sheer degree of pedantry that is possible online. < 1303258666 676433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's almost as if people don't get that the aim of language is communication within the hazy and highly contextual environment of human thought, rather than a formal system. < 1303258695 379688 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One might even say that a number of people don't get that. < 1303258795 995902 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forcefeeds Phantom_Hoover a squirrel brain < 1303258809 553242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were from New York. < 1303258813 445315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303258891 264976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303259456 260186 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :' "Hey u like me call u when i gt home" I have no idea if she's asking if she should call me, or telling me that she'll call' <<< asking < 1303259466 146576 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1303259478 566724 :augur[afk]!~augur@129.2.129.34 NICK :augur < 1303259486 436342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: congratulations, you avoided being called by an absolute moron < 1303259505 131677 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i can't parse is hoover's response < 1303259575 690192 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he corrects it just after < 1303259743 259624 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303259906 780817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thunderstorm: < 1303259906 958376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - Day gets dark enough to spawn monsters < 1303259906 958568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : - A pig hit by lightning will turn into a zombie pigman" < 1303259909 74167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most awesome < 1303259912 600540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oosp wrong channel < 1303260109 42448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: SO RUDE < 1303260640 113206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trackpads now have kinetic scrolling. If you flick to perform a scroll, then press a keyboard key while kinetic scroll events are generated, unexpected application behavior may result. (728643) < 1303260641 30835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally < 1303260676 317107 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Yahweasel < 1303260714 241924 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1303260734 296248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: -minecraft dammit :| < 1303260737 81114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you BELONG IN THERE < 1303260776 797150 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking makes more sense because by adding "2" makes it a perfectly valid english sentence asking if you'd like her to call, but i see no way to make it a sentence *telling* you she'll call < 1303260779 139899 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, people are not ADEQUATELY OFFENDED by this nick. < 1303260802 185900 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except "Hey. You like me. Call you when i get home!" < 1303260811 523990 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be... interesting < 1303260831 941508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Try /nick Muyahmmed < 1303260898 933414 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... but the "yah" isn't the offensive part :P < 1303260914 93796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: /nick Muyahmmedweasel < 1303260922 208072 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUN FAIL < 1303260963 576299 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what that nick refers to < 1303260969 26363 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still kinda offended < 1303260970 767575 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey u like me call u when i gt home sounds like it's missing a few woulds and tos < 1303260994 255137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: as i said, you need to add "2" < 1303261004 580132 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :punctuation, letters, words, sensibility < 1303261004 757931 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey u like me 2 call u when i gt home < 1303261008 858912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: where did you appear from < 1303261019 141257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: a brain, ... < 1303261058 525869 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can imagine omitting it would lead to a few chinese bridge builders not to get it, as demonstrated earlier by elliott and ph < 1303261069 449627 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*getting < 1303261093 565209 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: i came here yesterday from the wiki < 1303261101 642325 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have idled since < 1303261105 724532 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303261113 605846 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you norwegian < 1303261128 705666 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Define "Norwegian". < 1303261151 90920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: Let me guess, we can blame our new front page again? :P < 1303261153 4367 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it means "use the nick TeruFSX and have lived in norway for a long time" < 1303261172 828005 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Ah. < 1303261179 271056 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not norwegian. < 1303261188 700023 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i would have come here anyway < 1303261195 234303 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the front page helped < 1303261195 411831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suuuure :P < 1303261197 451530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you could FIND it :P < 1303261207 161801 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stumbled across it once before < 1303261216 905885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let you know when I want to cash in my debt. < 1303261227 673323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your debt, rather. < 1303261254 612410 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention i just slept for 16 hours < 1303261512 310198 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if other countries do anything similar to the whole Air Force/Marine/Executive One rigamarole... < 1303261592 109804 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For those unaware of what the hell I'm talking about: a plane in the US Air Force with the President aboard is Air Force One. < 1303261685 298485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303261688 451693 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise for the Marines, Navy, and (hypothetically) Army, Coast Guard, Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, or National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps. < 1303261704 354380 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a commercial plane with the President aboard is Executive One. < 1303261736 369472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303261893 463040 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.34 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303262028 508541 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why'd you think I was norwegian < 1303262121 514296 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: the way you smell, mostly < 1303262167 920695 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. that being < 1303262181 447064 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how norwegians smell < 1303262196 895791 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, how does and apple smell? < 1303262198 995582 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1303262210 648112 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you answer that, and i'll start working on norwegians < 1303262315 66665 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume most apples and Norweigans smell about the same. < 1303262354 414495 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously i mean what apples smell like once you have squeezed the juice out of them < 1303262367 141832 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :things tend not to smell unless you destroy them < 1303262390 995740 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i just accidentally told everyone i'm a serial killer < 1303262396 685392 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much more than sugar, maybe a few sour notes i guess < 1303262413 331742 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you know norwegians smell like apples on the inside, i'd be somewhat worried < 1303262421 182228 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm hopefully far away though < 1303262429 837594 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you? < 1303262460 454211 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great land of america < 1303262472 660352 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :always populated by protestant european stock < 1303262485 619794 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy europeans < 1303262487 945977 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a great country, built on Christian principles and no government < 1303262580 411828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self, americans think their government is "no government" < 1303262597 385108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.qotile.net/blog/wp/?p=600 pretttyyyyy < 1303262611 404488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ph will like that < 1303262669 329774 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehewaef < 1303262683 422474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wat < 1303262699 457135 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy people say weird things < 1303262710 113279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's truaejroaejoigoifjhggjofodgbmyi0 < 1303262738 484664 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't be happy, only stupid people can be happy < 1303262747 112560 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been watching house for the last week < 1303262752 694175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm stupid < 1303262754 603781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1303262756 680818 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conductor program is going SO FREAKING WELL 8-D < 1303262757 407286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol just said i'm not stupid < 1303262758 70152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1303262759 957018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :best day of my life < 1303262776 680664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: So how do you actually mix two MIDI tracks together? Just use Rosegarden or something? That's so manual... < 1303262777 622921 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::SD < 1303262796 883520 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ./mergefiles a.mid b.mid out.mid < 1303262811 311582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You said your music production system lacked this :P < 1303262821 32480 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, I said that was a small clerical task. < 1303262825 509798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Right :P < 1303262825 687504 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not the important part of my suite. < 1303262834 298281 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still part of it. < 1303262838 892381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :./ makes baby jesus sad, you need to give them all six-letter names and make them global. < 1303262846 651154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, mergemid would also be acceptable :P < 1303262897 57658 :pizearke!~pup@cpe-65-28-173-159.wi.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1303262931 999115 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, in retrospect I should have named all those "files" things as "mid", but I was in MIDI-mode at the time so I was thinking "what other kinds of files ARE there?" < 1303262979 260378 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-26-16.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303263011 14687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lawl :P < 1303263019 789414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I thought you were the kind of pedantic asshole who always calls them smf. < 1303263045 199763 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't, because I'm integrating with PortMidi and PortSMF is terrible :P < 1303263071 117132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought PortMidi sucked donkey dick. < 1303263075 286846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that just PortSMF? < 1303263086 686547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"portsmf (short for Portable Standard Midi File Library), a subproject of portmedia, is a library for reading, writing, and manipulating standard midi files. One drawback of any standard midi file library is that most of the work is likely to be translating midi to whatever local data structure you are using to represent midi or general music data. portsmf provides one such data structure. Originally, this library was called Allegro, so at least < 1303263086 863899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now, you'll see a lot of "allegro" and "alg" in the sources." < 1303263088 964702 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hair is very curly < 1303263091 613140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CALLING LIBRARIES ALLEGRO: GOOD IDEA < 1303263120 257765 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just PortSMF. PortMidi is ... bad, but sufferable :P < 1303263129 551797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I would tell you to support MT-[thirtytwo] awesomely, but it's just a MIDI+other stuff -> analogue audio thing :( < 1303263137 277858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although IIRC it has a MIDI Out that does... something... < 1303263146 623991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other stuff because you can actually reprogram the instruments totally.) < 1303263151 448646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And put messages on the screen :P) < 1303263346 689637 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the problem with the tornado alarm is that when it goes off, I have no idea whether it's its usual testing schedule, or what I'm supposed to do if it's not. < 1303263452 557095 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good, wunderground says there's a tornado warning >_> < 1303263500 766759 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303263507 262782 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you third world countries and your crazy stone agey problems < 1303263534 181863 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, this is a legitimate tornado warning >_> < 1303263600 111581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: lol at living in us < 1303263600 403253 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I know what I'm supposed to do! < 1303263601 689263 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ hg push < 1303263605 836524 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok sorry that was insensitive of me. OH GOD TORNADO WARNING?!? THAT'S *SERIOUS* YOU MIGHT *DIE* :OO < 1303263609 268190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: GO INTO THE BASEMENT < 1303263611 760033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'LL BE SAFE < 1303263612 937316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1303263615 5599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE THERE ALREADY < 1303263617 308991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IT'S YOUR PARENT'S HOUSE < 1303263619 105005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1303263619 504185 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1303263621 991330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NERD < 1303263622 805794 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1303263628 175035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your parents will die though < 1303263631 402043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't have them in the basement < 1303263633 260271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd see your goat porn < 1303263636 623909 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1303263644 124639 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... yeah, I'm a PhD student living thousands of miles away from my parents, and you? < 1303263644 589764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fap to their screams < 1303263658 464817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You didn't count on the person you stole your identity from ... < 1303263660 323310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... being ME < 1303263665 555821 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: is it the first tornado warning ever? < 1303263668 393427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a Ph.D. student named Gregor Richards living thousands of miles away from my parents. < 1303263668 570863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1303263669 687818 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for you < 1303263677 460986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You're Gregor Richards and you live in your parent's basement. < 1303263680 608576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[asterisk] parents' < 1303263691 740056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This "Elliott Hird" schtick was just to CATCH YOU OFF GUARD. < 1303263697 425345 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The first non-system-test one, yeah. < 1303263711 476470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that tornado warning was me i'm just trolling you in general < 1303263715 376324 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: oh that's actually pretty cool then < 1303263717 667209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i own your life < 1303263764 680488 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: do they tell you any specifics? < 1303263791 622862 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://www.wunderground.com/US/IN/029.html#TOR < 1303263866 861601 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Tornado warnings aren't really a problem because of any economic issues in the US. < 1303263886 861146 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's just that the US happens to get almost all the tornadoes. < 1303263913 156681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hogging the tornadoes < 1303263929 431696 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We get about 1,200 a year. < 1303264012 414899 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: oh it's not because you're a third world country? what about the snow, that's still about finland angering god right? < 1303264034 818458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOCTOR WHO CAST DYING OFF ONE BY ONE http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13137674 < 1303264040 480028 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do have a lot of that sodomy going around you know < 1303264054 693741 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303264054 957072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what the News Ham has to say about it < 1303264056 364736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham < 1303264058 186827 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woman dies in Oz diving accident: A woman from Donegal has died in a diving accident off the coast of Queensland in Australia. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-northern-ireland-13137774 < 1303264068 145227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham: but no what about doctor who < 1303264070 172036 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Royal wedding police helicopter tour: The Metropolitan Police are already identifying security issues along the route and key sites of the royal wedding from the skies. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/uk-13129651 < 1303264072 623757 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No, God doesn't care about Finland. Be glad. < 1303264078 195160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost as if you don't look at my messages, news-ham < 1303264080 703368 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIDEO: Misrata's injured recover in Benghazi: Nato has said that there is only so much air forces can do to protect civilians in the besieged city of Misrata in Libya. http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/news/world-africa-13134893 < 1303264088 444235 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: D < 1303264090 697169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the punishment for living in finland is living in finland < 1303264096 927065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is swift and cruel < 1303264099 140718 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: If you want to see somewhere that God is angry at, you need only look at Texas. < 1303264104 85056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doesn't end until you leave finland < 1303264111 219175 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR FLESH MELTETH < 1303264189 461514 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highs of 20C in January. < 1303264225 774502 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had 16.7 or something last week < 1303264237 185490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :38C in July in some parts. < 1303264249 99195 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are averages, BTW. < 1303264283 157466 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR FLESH MELTETH < 1303264294 924355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lol < 1303264297 16446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: try australia < 1303264306 466451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR FLESH DISINTEGRETH < 1303264310 386719 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*And* it's humid as fuck. < 1303264318 932786 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but Australia is a prison colony. < 1303264322 172156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1303264325 291302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is Texas < 1303264329 237649 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texas was settled willingly. < 1303264333 501889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303264336 700220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would go to Texas willingly < 1303264338 561169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are funny < 1303264340 494190 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Texans. < 1303264348 698439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1303264350 369041 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that it's a major source of derp. < 1303264351 524113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to get out < 1303264368 756102 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1303264388 973742 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've actually got a large number of people moving in. < 1303264400 257227 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adding to the derp. < 1303264471 742493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :prisoners < 1303264531 732503 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, Texas prefers to execute. < 1303264560 707214 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of education do you need to be an execu...tive? < 1303264591 649180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an execullent one < 1303264608 157310 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Minimal. < 1303264764 523275 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1303264782 196016 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should totally be an executioner university < 1303264791 970948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :execuniversity < 1303264813 412692 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091112123357AAjJmFN < 1303264820 342264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm satisfied. < 1303265084 179723 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I sould text her again < 1303265199 514909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1303265201 433809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never talk to her again. < 1303265227 697452 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell her "sry i wuntd to ansr but i forgut :>" < 1303265349 462490 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom once sent her friend the text "have 2 remember 2 take my penis with me" where 2's indicate i'm translating abbreviated text. penis was short for penicillin. < 1303265407 347475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303265410 167263 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't penic make more sense/ < 1303265415 100087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "translating" < 1303265420 15546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is as retarded as every girl he knows ever. < 1303265441 910711 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :she told me this when i told her if sending text messages is so hard you have to drop the ending of every word, maybe you could call instead < 1303265442 88214 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. In that case, what's so funny about what oklopol wrote? < 1303265447 463030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the word for penis < 1303265452 50205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is short for the word for penicillin < 1303265453 479689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish < 1303265465 43116 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i write it penisiliini in finnish < 1303265470 960939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : she told me this when i told her if sending text messages is so hard you have to drop the ending of every word, maybe you could call instead < 1303265472 367102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems so < 1303265472 760161 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know it had a c, maybe my mom doesn't either < 1303265473 798882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :snobbish for you < 1303265474 325112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1303265494 454513 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i doubt i phrased it like that < 1303265503 893927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you oklopol to your parents as well < 1303265506 789409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just normal < 1303265513 374198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do you tell them about your dog food eating < 1303265515 426173 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more like "it's funny how you abbreviate words more than teenagers do" < 1303265515 988817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265516 322064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265516 525310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265516 746786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265516 966054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265518 199270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265519 445597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :285) who's walter bright and why is he so bright locks: he's to D what I'm to ooc locks: guilty < 1303265519 792529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :258) Is there a name for something where I'm more attracted to someone if I know they've had a rough past? Sgeo, "Little Shop of Horrors" < 1303265520 166611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265521 368734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :205) comex: what? *vorpal comex: hi, tab-complete completed c to comex instead of Vorpal, dunno why < 1303265521 579707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :359) i'm really sleep < 1303265522 266497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265522 853312 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :165) Oh I get it you guys just use this space to do nothing ? < 1303265523 761337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :335) what does coffee do to biological neural networks what tiger blood does for charlie sheen < 1303265524 154336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265525 155747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :166) Why shouldn't I just do everything in non-Microsoft-specific C#? it's like trying to write non-IE-specific JavaScript with only Microsoft documentation and only IE to test on < 1303265525 854946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :119) I want a patent on common sense It wouldn't get me much though >_> < 1303265526 134406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1303265526 964667 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :240) zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. It's broken? < 1303265527 518756 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :337) elliott, incidentally, I started my explorations again after getting bored of the Himalayas. < 1303265563 789532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :our qdb is finally only mostly shitty < 1303265563 967062 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm rather open with my parents < 1303265573 678029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so basically you have lots of incest? < 1303265579 18184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what that means don't you know < 1303265580 216703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scientific fact < 1303265612 106556 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an attractive, and apparently smart, girl at school < 1303265614 416593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol doesn't like facts :( < 1303265618 169897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "apparently smart" lol < 1303265622 732894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bro, I heard she's really smart" < 1303265623 161985 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me < 1303265625 667684 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whoooops < 1303265627 286054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303265628 863110 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait what? < 1303265630 807316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: that was a joke right < 1303265641 897501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me < 1303265643 549394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :371) I think she either likes me, is neutral towards me, or dislikes me < 1303265688 914231 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :She did approach where I was sitting once, asked if she could sat there. I think at some point though, I said something that upset her. Not sure. < 1303265690 447345 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"335) what does coffee do to biological neural networks what tiger blood does for charlie sheen" who the fuck is charlie sheen < 1303265702 939983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this bipolar guy < 1303265707 326046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, bi-winning. < 1303265715 408891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a bitchin' rockstar from mars apparently < 1303265724 302737 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a quite quotable and quite insane celebrity < 1303265730 425552 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurf < 1303265743 680877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"apparently < 1303265743 985293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/cats-quote-charlie-sheen-the-2020-interview/ < 1303265745 308895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1303265748 432236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/cats-quote-charlie-sheen/ < 1303265748 694805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/cats-quote-charlie-sheen-the-2020-interview/ < 1303265752 873301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TeruFSX: primarily quotable by cats < 1303265788 542217 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1303265797 571961 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for Cats from Zero Wing. < 1303265826 209881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1303265829 458822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be even better. < 1303266100 652699 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :those cats don't help me as much as i'd hoped < 1303266289 379494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: he's this actor on this terrible sitcom. then he spent a weekend doing insane amounts of cocaine and hookers. < 1303266297 150012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :forcing him to go to hospital < 1303266314 714768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: then he turned completely manic bipolar and insane, and his show got cancelled because he's insane < 1303266317 692607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he raged about it insanely < 1303266322 130856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now he's doing a tour where people go to see him be insane < 1303266322 819032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end < 1303266510 530819 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303266522 460440 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1303266526 58852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1303266532 228748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo is ogling another tarded girl < 1303266533 136406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you < 1303266536 144670 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why must even menial employment be difficult? < 1303266584 67240 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally can't even get a job flipping burgers. < 1303266591 334827 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCREW YOU, BUSH. < 1303266594 593105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREELANCE PROGRAMMING < 1303266595 952741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NOTE: JOKE) < 1303266601 385711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO NO WAIT < 1303266604 480980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREELANCE WEB DEVELOPMENT < 1303266606 490141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST JOB < 1303266629 662557 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I desire real currency, not peanuts. < 1303266649 485086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :peanuts are very tasty < 1303266653 991161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not really < 1303266666 488694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: come work at the Esoteric Research Institute < 1303266669 11592 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but they do not make a good item for trade or barter. < 1303266685 488502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is, we pay you to dick around and code awesome impractical shit all day < 1303266694 188942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask what our business model is. that's not _your_ problem. < 1303266767 559929 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, so long as the checks cash I needn't care much about the sanity of those responsible for there being money to fund me. :P < 1303266781 141062 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I suspect that that may be an issue. < 1303266823 240858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we assure you that it is _impossible_ to prove that ERI is funded by illegal activities. so you have nothing to worry about! < 1303266841 468758 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "illegal". < 1303266862 874710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "two hundred thousand dollars a year", peasant. < 1303266866 294130 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, quite honestly, don't have the capacity to give a fuck about most illegal but moral activities. < 1303266881 562721 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which dollar? < 1303266886 470801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I never said it wasn't illegal, I just said it was impossible to prove we were funded illegally. < 1303266894 54091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Canadian. < 1303266903 288710 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Acceptable. < 1303266920 248731 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I would have preferred silver dollars. :P < 1303266921 949225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could pay you in Bitcoins if you preferred. Or maple syrup. < 1303267117 230629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: DO YOU WANT TO BE PAID IN MAPLE SYRUP < 1303267126 900602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will NEVER have inflation, depreciation, ... < 1303267129 499165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is always the best. < 1303267240 778137 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, fairly certain maple syrup spoils :P < 1303267255 585803 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I wouldn't be so sure. < 1303267260 167434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303267271 732098 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not /positive/, but then, it's not honey. < 1303267298 537266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303267299 760614 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it has enough sugar to kill bacteria by osmosis. < 1303267319 846600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Spoiled maple syrup: still better than any other liquid? < 1303267321 132643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: Yes. < 1303267357 286916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham has again survived an X restart. < 1303267359 273060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow. < 1303267359 450715 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fighter O'Sullivan keen for more: Ronnie O’Sullivan says he can win more world titles after his first-round victory over Dominic Dale but will quit if he stops enjoying snooker again. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/int/news/-/sport1/hi/snooker/13137748.stm < 1303267360 744233 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there is a worry with it. < 1303267365 274405 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maple syrup can ferment. < 1303267368 850235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Delicious. < 1303267390 219738 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I APPROVE OF MAPLE LIQUOR < 1303267496 129317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You have to ferment maple syrup now. < 1303267500 287896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be... the best. < 1303267577 108628 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It apparently can be made into a maple mead. < 1303267619 222433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://davespicks.com/writing/mme/recipes/honeymaple.html With honey :P < 1303267644 313760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I wonder if fermented maple syrup itself would taste nice... < 1303267668 767910 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth experimenting. < 1303267700 558014 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would taste very much like rum I assume. < 1303267706 381508 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Not really. < 1303267723 18960 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: First, rum is made from molasses or sugar cane juice. < 1303267738 736921 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Second, it's distilled. Distillation produces rather different flavors. < 1303267768 973230 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This hypothetical maple drink would be a straight fermented beverage. < 1303267785 199779 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1303267796 890534 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maple syrup is pretty damn thick, you know :P < 1303267799 724941 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former point is irrelevant though. < 1303267808 335492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might have to mix it into something at the end to get it drinkable. < 1303267818 938782 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So's honey. < 1303267825 416798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1303267835 591177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honey's thicker, obviously :P < 1303267851 959040 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably do what you usually do with mead: water the honey down before fermenting. < 1303267858 427120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1303267862 345386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ferment pure maple syrup. < 1303267876 623005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATER CAN COME LATER < 1303267876 971685 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Different flavors in the unfermented product will produce different flavors in the fermented product. < 1303267893 785898 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: In case you didn't notice, molasses and maple syrup have very distinct flavors. < 1303267926 833411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You must do it X_X < 1303267937 266359 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even drink >_< < 1303267977 510361 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Dude, EVERYONE drinks for Fermented Maple Syrup. < 1303267977 687952 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had sufficient space and some spare cash, I'd try. < 1303267987 959274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're the resident Beverage Maker. < 1303267989 36790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beverage... SCIENTIST. < 1303267989 613666 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the resident SODA MAKER> < 1303267989 916422 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, it would be the first thing brewed by me. < 1303267990 170365 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/>/./ < 1303267990 744125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: BUT NOW THE RESIDENT BEVERAGE MAKER < 1303267990 921769 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Why, may I ask, do you not drink? < 1303267990 922029 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even like most beverages that other people like :P < 1303267993 958606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I am going to give you money and you are going to use that money to make fermented maple syrup. < 1303268004 718207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much cash do you require to make this possible. You must use high-quality Canadian maple syrup. < 1303268008 585537 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I don't like it. Oh you just haven't {had GOOD X,developed a taste for X,blah blah blah some other bullshit X}. < 1303268031 581346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: omg we agree :D < 1303268039 717813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alcoholic drinks don't taste good :P < 1303268043 239842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APART FROM FERMENTED MAPLE SYRUP < 1303268046 630244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH CANNOT POSSIBLY TASTE BAD < 1303268056 137323 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I shan't say "you haven't developed a taste for X", as I liked it right away... < 1303268065 243399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HOW MUCH MONEY < 1303268072 651738 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: But I must say, there's a decent chance you've had shit. < 1303268088 644025 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: There's also a decent chance that anosmia sucks. < 1303268099 809380 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I KNOW NOT < 1303268108 275077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Find out how much you'd need to make it happen. < 1303268111 771436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so, so serious. < 1303268127 925723 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: There's also a decent chance that I've had expensive dinners in Genoa, Prague and London :P < 1303268137 969643 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Ah, right. < 1303268142 581037 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: So, anosmia sucks. < 1303268147 728856 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And expensive dinners in the former two include expensive wine (whether you want them to or not) < 1303268153 812937 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANd wine tastes EXACTLY like chilled coffee. < 1303268163 708863 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :chilled coffee tastes awesome < 1303268167 441080 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Not even vaguely close to me. < 1303268180 451137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He's hyposmic :P < 1303268184 910789 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though iced coffee is pretty awesome with some cream & sugar. < 1303268194 636010 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Point is, his nose spites good taste. < 1303268196 28729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure wine, sans the aroma, is similar to coffee. < 1303268199 779504 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chilled, "sweetened" coffee, although as far as I can tell sweetening coffee just makes it sour (so more like wine) < 1303268201 384995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can really see that. < 1303268220 164218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: What does coke taste like to you, acid water? :P < 1303268228 981352 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Actually, sans aroma, the major taste in both would be "bitter"... < 1303268241 818987 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: WHY YES. < 1303268243 425179 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: YES IT IS. < 1303268248 416638 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can actually taste the sweetness in coke :P < 1303268251 544133 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really smell much < 1303268253 532103 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And juice, for that matter. < 1303268260 73113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: lawl < 1303268262 734372 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i love all tastes < 1303268267 309079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: What does Dr Pepper taste like? < 1303268279 533402 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm never hungry because i love eating too much to want to wait < 1303268280 615967 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... fruity? < 1303268284 628851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: BORING < 1303268290 888064 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ...??? < 1303268295 592412 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Dr Pepper, fruity? < 1303268297 721666 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it supposed to taste like? :P < 1303268300 94781 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get INTERESTING RESULTS. < 1303268304 247364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dr Pepper ... IS fruity :P < 1303268308 411460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fruity with... you know, other shit. < 1303268309 281927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. < 1303268315 671528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Vanilla essence? < 1303268320 811415 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Doesn't really taste "fruity" to me. < 1303268321 155851 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not like berry-y, but like some of the warmer fruits. < 1303268329 192593 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to describe it, really. < 1303268344 874939 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... is "vanilla essence" something one drinks? :P < 1303268351 181914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Dr Pepper tastes like Dr Pepper, but it is unquestionably something _like_ Cherry Coke. < 1303268357 740736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAR superior, but it _does_ have a shitload of fruits. < 1303268358 477822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: YES < 1303268360 266454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be :P < 1303268365 359413 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK Tia, it's time to stop taking up ¾ of the bed >_< < 1303268365 704200 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Except with less cherry. < 1303268367 448203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Do you... not know what "vanilla essence" is? < 1303268368 838398 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Okay, fair enough. < 1303268372 504696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OK Tia, it's time to stop taking up ¾ of the bed >_< < 1303268375 127699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You fatso." < 1303268380 2321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why did I ever marry you." < 1303268383 225679 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :She is a fat cat :P < 1303268390 771106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why did I ever marry a cat." < 1303268394 384735 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-26-16.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303268396 914420 :augur_!~augur@pool-173-73-134-9.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303268406 301926 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And yet, adding cherry to it makes it amazing. < 1303268427 898349 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you referring to vanilla extract or something? < 1303268442 657639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: It's really strong vanilla in alcohol in really tiny bottles. < 1303268444 957144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: Almost certainly. < 1303268453 511378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I am _not_ referring to the shit that you get in huge bottles that's diluted to hell. < 1303268458 773719 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's vanilla extract. < 1303268478 4025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: http://www.spicesofindia.co.uk/acatalog/Pride-Vanilla-Essence-Big.gif < 1303268479 745813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note tiny bottle. < 1303268483 971263 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can actually get vanilla extract in huge bottles. I know not the cost. < 1303268501 928074 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: i'm sure fat cats are used to getting as great a percentage of a bed as they like < 1303268506 132092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Fermented (maple syrup + bit of vanilla extract): oh god so fuckinszg deliciosudfghjk < 1303268531 973127 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so vanilla extract, got it :P < 1303268538 590321 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Imitation vanilla extract is usually made by soaking alcohol into wood, which contains vanillin." < 1303268541 577382 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes me sad. < 1303268569 700082 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... why? < 1303268570 221960 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it give you wood < 1303268571 963398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1303268579 431652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOOD: Tastes like vanilla < 1303268580 824976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Cheap. < 1303268588 676424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel lives in a world of richness :P < 1303268622 619309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: (I am trolling you) < 1303268623 181860 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imitation vanilla extract really isn't that bad, depending on the usage. < 1303268652 549680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S IMPURE < 1303268663 38360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the alcohol base of vanilla essence is unacceptable. < 1303268666 54486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be PURE LIQUID VANILLA < 1303268675 887717 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :god my back hurts < 1303268683 370631 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's insufficiently vanilla-y. < 1303268683 906122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: stop having so much sex < 1303268702 231996 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303268709 381210 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303268720 144817 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Vanilla extract could be considered an alcoholic beverage. < 1303268730 181625 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet, it's purchasable by those under 21 in the US. < 1303268735 15936 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really start taking 5 minute walking breaks between 8 hour sleep segments after having spent the last night doing a jigsaw puzzle on the floor < 1303268787 13785 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, minimum 70 proof... < 1303268824 194217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: omg let's get shitfaced on vanilla extract < 1303268835 812216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: dude, i wanna do jigsaws < 1303268837 420737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i come and help < 1303268851 104859 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't even take *that* much. A few shots, I suppose? < 1303268865 730206 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303268879 327615 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not my jigsaw < 1303268880 721601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most delicious way to get drunk ever < 1303268886 23390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i can buy some < 1303268890 675871 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, if I *really* wanted to get shitfaced, I'd just get a bottle of vodka... < 1303268898 611019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can you find out how much it would cost you to ferment maple syrup, thanks < 1303268927 498165 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i will do a jigsaw puzzle with you if you like, sure < 1303268927 675679 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm going to charge $40,000. < 1303268940 75415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: stop joking the fuck around, i want to make this happen < 1303268943 595086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY < 1303268949 783972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yay < 1303269004 768995 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, but seriously, what I need is an indeterminate amount of money to get practice at homebrewing. < 1303269011 911110 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In addition to equipment and *space*. < 1303269017 801897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: BLEH < 1303269026 995628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Basically, what you need is a job :P < 1303269030 709702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH THE IRONY < 1303269043 601943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And surely you can just BREW IN A CORNER < 1303269050 318648 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, given a decent income, I'd be liable to try my hand at homebrewing *anyways*... < 1303269066 16216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get around to making Swig Ingest Drink. < 1303269104 244963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then whoever makes fermented maple syrup and vanilla gets to create Swig Ingest Drunk: Just Like the Real Thing, Only More Alcoholic. < 1303269204 105111 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly, homebrewed beverages can be positively delicious. < 1303269220 499817 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3's his uncle's wine < 1303269233 80019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq also less-than-threes his uncle. < 1303269234 647521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM IMPLYING NOTHING < 1303269238 422415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL I AM ASKING HERE IS: THE QUESTIONS < 1303269250 716617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No Smell No Taste < 1303269250 894253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a desperate attempt for recovery from loss of smell" < 1303269253 223109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: OH NOES < 1303269262 656412 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure you can't imply that which you explicitly state. :) < 1303269270 861334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: O RLY? Glenn Beck does it all the time. < 1303269295 963106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So cheese is milk that's off... < 1303269301 931668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say maple syrup spoils. < 1303269305 597068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let it spoil, then ferment it. < 1303269307 9664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :??????? < 1303269307 833342 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk is milk that's off. < 1303269312 25348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS JUST A SOURCE OF AMAZINGNESS < 1303269317 509438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Lemme guess, milk tastes like piss to you? :P < 1303269333 41333 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually mostly a texture thing with milk. < 1303269335 688857 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sticky beverage = no. < 1303269338 263653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1303269340 726092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk is sticky? < 1303269353 426904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bro, we have both been drinking milk, but the milk I have been drinking is not the milk that you have been drinking. < 1303269359 881254 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It leaves that sticky feeling in the roof of your mouth. < 1303269360 400778 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I'm frightened of your milk. < 1303269362 353502 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303269364 76 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so godawfully bad. < 1303269367 382621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My milk is smooth and silky and cold. < 1303269371 876140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your milk is... sticky. < 1303269383 470722 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can confirm that this isn't pan-American. < 1303269386 589676 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk is anything but smooth and silky. < 1303269394 147150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: s/Milk/The milk I've drunk/ < 1303269405 5332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Was it skimmed in any way? < 1303269415 449794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it wasn't, semi-skimmed might be more to your liking /shrug < 1303269416 546645 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had 2%, 1%, skim, soy, whole ... < 1303269431 278283 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk is just godawfully bad. Not as bad as cheese, but horrible. < 1303269433 938520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Two samples of human breast milk" -- first picture on [[Milk]] < 1303269442 167506 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "Not as bad as cheese" WUT? < 1303269446 896650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: I swear to god, milk is smooth and silky over here :P < 1303269455 282757 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, American. Most American cheese is godawful. < 1303269458 243436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't drink it if it did shit to the roof of my mouth. < 1303269480 317263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has pretty much the same texture as nice smooth orange juice for me /shrug < 1303269484 386001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except... not acidic. < 1303269527 716444 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a PART :#esoteric < 1303269555 581301 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Been to Genoa. Been to Prague. Will soon be to Paris. I promise you, I hate cheese. < 1303269604 933086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doods. Milk is NOT STICKY it is the BEST believe me < 1303269605 317488 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same texture as ORANGE JUICE (minus acidity)??? < 1303269610 714491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1303269619 77725 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, why do people like milk >_< < 1303269626 606166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You hate orange juice? < 1303269626 783712 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net TOPIC #esoteric :We are now taking up collections for the "Gregor needs a sense of smell" fund | Logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | Some logs also available at http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1303269630 507908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just trying to make an example. < 1303269635 971300 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is as bad as a beverage can be. < 1303269636 686120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It literally just has the texture of... liquid. < 1303269641 642989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Milk, that is. < 1303269648 301282 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCEPT STICKY AND GROSS < 1303269651 126544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SRSLY come to Britain we have nice milk from nice cows. < 1303269654 307835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT ISN'T STICKY I PROMISE YOU < 1303269662 501517 :augur_!~augur@pool-173-73-134-9.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303269664 565645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you been having milk that didn't just come straight out of a good fridge? < 1303269685 412298 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that every time I describe a food/drink I don't like, people assume my sample size is one :P < 1303269693 90612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nonono. I'm no. < 1303269693 993617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not. < 1303269702 6052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that milk is _really insanely hard_ to get right :P < 1303269710 421618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /hate/ 90 percent of milk because 90 percent of milk is terrible. < 1303269717 709118 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Because you're describing things that are the very incarnation of deliciousness as "bad". :P < 1303269745 837027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: It has to be the right brand, the right skimmedness (depends on brand, etc.), and it has to have either been in a good fridge for ages or, preferably, in the freezer for the last ten minutes, and it then has to be served and drunk immediately. < 1303269790 492657 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you have to do this while standing on your head, while Jupiter is at its zenith and Orion's Belt is visible in the western sky. < 1303269791 178126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is /so delicious/. < 1303269795 568557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Pretty much. < 1303269808 543794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't drink milk that often because it is such a coordinated practice to drink it :P < 1303269835 563186 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell foods *do* you like, Yahweasel? < 1303269836 854151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 2010 a college professor named Mark Haub went on a "convenience store" diet consisting mainly of Twinkies, Oreos, and Doritos in an attempt to demonstrate to his students "that in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most—not the nutritional value of the food". He lost 27 pounds over a 2 month period, returning his BMI to within normal range.[11] < 1303269837 201249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE BEST DIET < 1303269848 223340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yahweasel survives on a diet composed entirely of Moxie. < 1303269886 287105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks. < 1303269886 809830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLEH < 1303269888 444719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FEEL LIED TO < 1303269909 243224 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Everything substantial I don't like is: Dairy, fish, various beverages. < 1303269920 178645 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that, I like most everything. < 1303269928 104286 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Fish? The fuck? < 1303269934 277461 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: What about fish do you not like? < 1303269935 320846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fish is horrible. < 1303269943 911938 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mostly the flavor :P < 1303269955 856511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fish has a horrible texture and a horrible flavour. < 1303269959 974642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything about it is bad. < 1303269973 327208 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: LIES AND DECEIT < 1303269975 636577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1303269978 284706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Do you like pizza. < 1303269981 141795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I am testing Yahweasel's humanity.) < 1303269983 616248 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Dairy" < 1303269985 770638 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's better uncooked. :P < 1303269991 101668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pizza is... oh, cheese. < 1303269995 765181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: You can have pizza without cheese. < 1303270009 295079 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You CAN, but people look at you funny and you get disowned. < 1303270011 979694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But... how does the utterly mild cheese cause distaste to you in pizza?) < 1303270013 745176 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like no-cheese pizza though :P < 1303270018 670340 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, "mild" < 1303270019 193313 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, "cheese on all pizza" is an Americanism. < 1303270022 851571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't even have the texture. < 1303270023 547776 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tastes like dying and hell. < 1303270030 929588 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1303270031 277164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: OK, I've figured out the problem. < 1303270046 479653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Your definition of "taste" is one that involves not having a nose. < 1303270052 938886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it is utterly unrelated to the sense known as "taste". < 1303270057 451976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose you use the word "fnarf" instead. < 1303270080 232336 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fnarf of liver paste is quite good, but the fnarf of cheese is abysmally bad. < 1303270081 349942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mozzarella on pizza /fnarfs/ like dying and hell. < 1303270083 832913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It /tastes/ edlicious. < 1303270086 686980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious. < 1303270115 579390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: But yah, you can easily have pizza without cheese, it's a diverse field :P < 1303270124 745292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep meaning to make some pizza. < 1303270126 488727 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270136 686482 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like no-cheese pizza, you just can't buy that here :P < 1303270147 532251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE SOME < 1303270155 534626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: And if anyone accuses you of being inauthentic, disown them. < 1303270156 408734 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why bother? I can make better things. < 1303270185 283597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.textism.com/2008/06/10/on.pie ;; This will make everyone instantly hungry and want to make home-made pizza. < 1303270190 84311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a Solid Fact. < 1303270193 545064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Please confirm the above. < 1303270194 977601 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270343 683563 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I confirm that I want home-made pizza to satiate my hunger. < 1303270357 658771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hi, we're causing ourselves debilitating stress by reading an article that instantly causes anyone, anywhere to rabidly desire home-made pizza < 1303270362 62934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YOU WANT TO CHOIN IN < 1303270362 970816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN < 1303270407 156814 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270410 365448 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Unstoned olives? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT < 1303270422 549245 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *eh* < 1303270425 374432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olives? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT < 1303270432 887951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Olives are designed for: making olive oil. < 1303270439 105603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that, they should be destroyed. < 1303270440 159713 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. i have (almost) home-made smoked salmon. < 1303270440 337200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270443 314079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: ... < 1303270452 453072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ooh do it in channel < 1303270473 688187 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you were two seconds too late < 1303270484 624491 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT WAS IT < 1303270491 910156 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list messages < 1303270492 122935 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages? clear-messages < 1303270498 476244 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Client Quit < 1303270505 731478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHAT WAS IT < 1303270513 346241 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot> Phantom_Hoover said 3h 21m 44s ago: At the first available opportunity, go to the Norwegian link in http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0140673605633338 and transfer it to my possession... < 1303270513 523778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270517 255589 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270517 433020 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:33 =lambdabot> somehow. < 1303270519 765068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was public :) < 1303270523 330981 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270523 508402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 25s ago: I have erased all the evidence. The mugging is at dawn. < 1303270523 850059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OMG DO IT IN PUBLIC < 1303270526 720910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1303270532 375083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1303270548 338115 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, i checked the logs before pasting < 1303270553 433646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lame < 1303270560 320878 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list messages < 1303270560 498753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages? clear-messages < 1303270572 744397 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303270578 35079 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help messages? < 1303270578 212708 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :messages?. Tells you whether you have any messages < 1303270582 879342 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1303270583 56945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1303270587 261005 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270622 335296 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly there seems to be no way to get lambdabot to repeat it in channel afterwards < 1303270622 682554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270628 134877 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270628 312197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster said 23s ago: I am ready for the sexy times... name a date and I'll be there ;) < 1303270632 439770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1303270633 430179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal < 1303270634 685354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this < 1303270644 392866 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is sad that lambdabot can't tell messages for yourself < 1303270652 582038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A SCANDAL < 1303270654 670470 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:36 AnMaster [~elliott@91.104.230.10] < 1303270654 848004 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:36 was : Elliott Hird < 1303270654 848197 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:36 server : zelazny.freenode.net [Wed Apr 20 03:36:23 2011] < 1303270654 848308 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:36 End of WHOWAS < 1303270658 220462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAM < 1303270659 80604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN < 1303270671 589799 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i already knew that was possible :D < 1303270685 255987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Vorpal is still ready for the sexy times, he just wanted me to relay the message. < 1303270685 433796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270692 252822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270692 431147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq said 20s ago: What do you mean, *this* is a scandal? What about our little scandal? < 1303270701 574396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell pikhq DON'T TELL THEM ABOUT THE SCANDAL < 1303270701 751803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303270706 729602 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i checked it after that first message which i annoyed you by doing in public, because it _looked_ like it could be a fake) < 1303270708 181547 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAIL < 1303270708 358994 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270712 294808 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270712 483001 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 11s ago: DON'T TELL THEM ABOUT THE SCANDAL < 1303270724 566339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell pikhq YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE, STOP READING MESSAGES IN PUBLIC < 1303270724 744167 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303270734 450961 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott FAIL < 1303270734 629742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303270735 709296 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270735 886873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 11s ago: YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE, STOP READING MESSAGES IN PUBLIC < 1303270746 423489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell pikhq THIS IS RIDICULOUS < 1303270746 600833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303270749 984573 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270750 161941 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 3s ago: THIS IS RIDICULOUS < 1303270755 250093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIDICULOUS I SAY < 1303270755 427537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1303270758 502822 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1303270758 713359 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq said 24s ago: FAIL < 1303270760 494878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOPS < 1303270782 11385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if /nick lilo works < 1303270784 272373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too scared to try < 1303270805 737434 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell phantom_hoover you appear to have this delusion that i have journal accesses... < 1303270805 914983 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1303270811 86704 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if there's a K-line attached. < 1303270814 783389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm it's _free_ in norway < 1303270815 828382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1303270817 683116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1303270825 819444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: TRY IT :D < 1303270836 116162 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1303270838 71158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* lilo :Erroneous Nickname < 1303270838 804042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUGGER < 1303270841 837727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they got a log though < 1303270842 226313 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck you; I liked lilo. < 1303270844 524468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the witch-hunt is coming < 1303270863 873389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Who says we can't imitate those we liked? < 1303270874 991343 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lilo sayeth. < 1303270885 188935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Rob_Levin < 1303270886 409770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ED DISAGREES < 1303270903 848481 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303270926 56800 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ED's back then < 1303270930 768530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only partially. < 1303270939 648562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good folks at Archive Team have a bounty for the whole thing. < 1303270945 747541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 90 bucks, but that's a lot for basement-dwellers :) < 1303270974 586743 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION salutes Archive Team < 1303271059 149338 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Archive Team"? < 1303271077 137019 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: They archive websites that are shutting down. < 1303271086 802853 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, they're archiving Google Video. < 1303271089 661642 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the whole thing. < 1303271105 362746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: http://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page < 1303271115 59257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: Lead by Jason Scott, author of a buncha documentaries and a blog. You've heard of him. < 1303271118 967429 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1303271123 496723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yahweasel: They archived shitloads of Geocities. And others. < 1303271141 667541 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Congratulations, Google Video! With your announcement today you're removing access to all user uploaded video in 15 days, you outsmarted us!" --their Twitter < 1303271173 842552 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damned shame that Google didn't just chuck some hard drives at archive.org and write it off. < 1303271208 286253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you're as big as Google, such loss of data happens by only one means: a complete failure to give a shit. < 1303271226 686439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, the shutdown of Geocities was far worse. < 1303271241 163113 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what, ED has disappeared? of course i _did_ avoid visiting it... < 1303271249 504143 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it still doesn't change that it's a dick move by Google. < 1303271259 279809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. It now redirects to "Oh Internet", the most SFW, irritating piece of shit website ever. < 1303271266 129920 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303271266 474967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because its owner decided it wasn't profitable enough. < 1303271270 742029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was no warning. < 1303271283 113830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Big red button to erase half of the internets + Yahoo executives = Oooh shiny. I think I'll press it. < 1303271310 79487 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303271319 4749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq: Big red button to erase half of the internets + Yahoo executives = Oooh shiny. I think I'll press it. < 1303271322 317225 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean ads that repel the majority of your potential readership isn't profitable? how weird. < 1303271346 641337 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Yahoo!'s handling of it was *really* shitty. < 1303271362 131379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The /ads/ repelled you? < 1303271364 105494 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially given how freaking small Geocities was by modern standards. < 1303271368 289528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were hardly more NSFW than the rest of the images. < 1303271373 176854 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe. < 1303271376 989097 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could've stuck the whole thing on a couple of drives. < 1303271381 285020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you're hardly "the majority of your potential readership" :P < 1303271390 385612 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, kids, a terabyte is not much! < 1303271413 73595 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1303271413 997127 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i understood ED also had some interesting information. < 1303271424 593519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that doesn't mean it was SFW < 1303271434 293217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the useful information was to the left of the cocks. < 1303271484 446523 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wouldn't be surprised if there's a K-line attached. <-- that _would_ be a bit harsh, someone might not know about the older nick and it has at least two well-known meanings so people might easily choose it < 1303271647 325352 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just invalid :) < 1303271653 380374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :ililoalot < 1303271655 615969 :ililoalot!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1303271658 266666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so just directly. < 1303271824 94397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: read that article it is so :pizza: < 1303271920 231397 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1303271930 714637 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jason Scott is now Archivist for the Internet Archive. < 1303271936 164049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1303271936 687115 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm currently busy with phantom_hoover's quest < 1303271957 556378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :archivists are my buddies < 1303271961 601038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are awesome < 1303272004 575581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10apr2011 sabotage, a new distribution based on musl and busybox. Yes, I bootstrapped a new Linux distribution. < 1303272005 658018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sodfijsdgojidgodfg sex < 1303272041 758359 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1303272095 680611 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly phantom_hoover's article is just a rather boring half-page summary < 1303272108 493443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: GOOD ENOUGH < 1303272110 416465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEND IT IMMEDIATELY < 1303272134 192831 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1303272140 363183 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303272214 426509 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1303272251 382412 :Guest14106!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1303272455 505896 :variable!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303272503 446361 :variable!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Guest90161 < 1303272635 526314 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Likewise for the Marines, Navy, and (hypothetically) Army, Coast Guard, Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, or National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps. < 1303272644 245685 :Guest90161!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1303272653 666099 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps 1 incoming!" < 1303272665 255464 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*One < 1303272690 641350 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i don't know how norwegians smell < 1303272697 727360 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious. also soap and milk. < 1303272709 363938 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, this could hypothetically happen. < 1303272718 909815 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, the NOAA has no planes. < 1303272734 108093 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about boats? < 1303272793 316694 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Borrowed from the Navy as needed. < 1303272912 905474 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean do they also get a One designation? this could be hilarious if the president somehow ended up on QE2 or the like... < 1303272981 324318 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the President is on it, it's fucking getting a One designation. < 1303272989 810318 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two is reserved for the Vice President. < 1303272994 362336 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if abbreviating Queen Elizabeth Two is appropriate < 1303273005 412950 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too obscure < 1303273005 722241 :Guest90161!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303273939 918501 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders at music videos that make no sense < 1303274024 840582 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqrwN-HhnC8&NR=1&feature=fvwp No, this does *not* make any more sense if you understand the lyrics. < 1303274318 138614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION giggles. < 1303274326 255763 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1) If God exists, then all morals and values are subject to God's will. < 1303274326 433238 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) If all morals and values are subject to God's will, then morality is subjective. < 1303274329 178863 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) If morality is subjective, then objective morals and values do not exist. < 1303274331 684965 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) Therefore, if God exists, then objective morals and values do not exist." < 1303274387 906518 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1303274413 140192 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303274442 210215 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: http://www.unifreethought.com/2011/04/refutation-of-moral-argument-or.html "A Refutation of The Moral Argument, or The Argument From Trollface") < 1303274614 898480 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how 2 or 3 holds < 1303274693 994778 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If morality were objective, then it could not possibly be defined by the perception of a single entity. < 1303274713 494563 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303274713 671940 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303274713 672088 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303274715 58471 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if morality is subjective, then it could not possibly be the exact opposite of subjective. < 1303274920 318042 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1303274944 401211 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303275607 83077 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303275643 568408 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as I get my computer working again, my minecart station is going to get uberawesome. < 1303275654 581633 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 high. Fuck yeah. < 1303275756 436050 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the customary notation for that is [3] < 1303275758 937772 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1303275807 999809 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1303275880 318293 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sentences oerjan to a 50x50 row reduction < 1303275885 665310 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd XD < 1303276086 346904 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll pet this kitty while you do that. < 1303276440 17347 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Determinant> det [[i^2 + j^2 | i <- [1..50]] | j <- [1..50]] < 1303276440 194870 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 % 1 < 1303276443 384530 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1303276490 681206 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'd almost certainly mess it up < 1303276508 875067 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote that Determinant module years ago < 1303276592 631308 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I take it that that does determinant via row reduction. < 1303276605 563490 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well something essentially row reduction, anyway < 1303276662 42792 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was so very annoyed when expansion by cofactors was first taught. < 1303276682 488352 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am *pained* by O(n!) algorithms. < 1303276708 680242 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's presumably useful for proving properties, though < 1303276730 835228 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but jeeeze O(n!) is just cruel. < 1303276752 532650 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presuming n>3... < 1303276777 485119 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the permanent iiuc the best algorithm is _still_ something not much better than that < 1303276789 725611 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Row reduction is O(n^3)... < 1303276833 615257 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P is significantly better than NP. :) < 1303276857 792199 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure computing the permanent is even in NP < 1303276859 774779 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303276868 443848 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303276873 556793 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's #P-complete, it was called < 1303276876 339129 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realises he should look up "permanent" < 1303276891 161931 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there was a recent Godel's Letter post about this) < 1303276918 479765 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh jesus fuck. < 1303276922 478613 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the cofactor expansion except the sign is always positive < 1303276965 543946 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the nice algorithm doesn't apply. < 1303277039 421671 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the blog post or possibly a comment mentioned that using other group characters instead for the sign, you have a dichotomy where the calculation problem is _either_ in P or #P-complete. or maybe i'm misremembering. < 1303277113 87126 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the permanent is not in NP. < 1303277123 599784 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even proving #P=NP would be somewhat interesting. < 1303277151 954792 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah (well technically one is a function problem class and the other is a decision problem class) < 1303277259 419871 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably was this one http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/valiants-permanent-contributions/ < 1303277359 622022 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303277360 673653 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/probably/most definitely/ < 1303277365 223169 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303277424 625263 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if there is, indeed, an elegant proof of Fermat's Last Theorem that the margin is too small to contain < 1303277536 413036 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes David Bacon's comment about the imman[ae]nt is what i was thinking of < 1303277536 590546 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303277558 502621 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303277638 483743 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303277656 75377 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303277686 770354 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have been confused about the dichotomy thing, and possibly kwregan's following comment < 1303277728 512270 :news-ham!~news-ham@91.104.230.10 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1303277784 517748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1303278311 652982 :Guest90161!~variable@ool-182fc904.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Changing host < 1303278311 868673 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:sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303292081 116667 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-60.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303292081 116777 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303292285 308296 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1303292580 683269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303292666 462658 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303292884 660175 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1303294807 195618 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303295037 725884 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Client Quit < 1303295475 756058 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303295661 216013 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1303295661 593341 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1303296202 374818 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1303296815 382087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh god I've been sucked in by Homestuck. < 1303296815 562161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@74.207.243.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1303296913 392331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, details on squirrel brain eating. < 1303296964 750346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rural Kentucky, will you ever cease to amaze me? < 1303297035 676755 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303297036 394278 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303297262 61321 :cheater-!~cheater@g230229181.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303297340 874367 :wth!~tianhou@2001:250:4001:302:223:8bff:fe54:5b7a QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303297374 811363 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061097.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303297481 738540 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303297616 549042 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303297660 842273 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303297792 664666 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303297927 552937 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1303298141 585601 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303298320 226876 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1303298450 840191 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303298563 579126 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1303298724 846971 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1303303268 166527 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303303432 641777 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1303304224 653970 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1303307476 310820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303307626 395471 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice timing, i just saw [[AAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1303307635 941917 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] and wondered if it needs deletion < 1303307663 359408 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have nothing to do with esolangs < 1303307696 605716 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles < 1303307728 555862 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem to be spam < 1303307803 701261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it may be a reference to a famous page on Uncyclopedia < 1303307822 571010 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. we also have a similarly named esolang. < 1303307825 682994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no it isn't < 1303307829 506881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual esolang is, I think < 1303307832 182302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that page is just meaningless < 1303307855 375476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've deleted it as offtopic < 1303307873 901341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bar for topicality isn't all that high on Esolang, but that somehow managed to dive well below it anyway < 1303307874 683570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esolang based on Feynman diagrams. < 1303307897 390250 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mighty feyn idea < 1303307913 393865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I've always wanted to draw up some Feynmanoid diagrams in Life, and present them as part of a physics paper showing the latest results from the LGC. < 1303307939 898430 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :LGC? < 1303307957 869904 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :large glider collider? < 1303308071 921951 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which doesn't actually makes sense, since glider means only the smallest spaceship < 1303308075 811866 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*make < 1303308157 34537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a large collider. < 1303308182 109645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same as the LHC doesn't collide large hadrons; it actually collides the smallest ones. < 1303308182 983741 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...um, right < 1303308196 361893 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats his brain -----### < 1303308200 821757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, hadron /= baryon. < 1303308213 154257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, protons are at the low end of the scale. < 1303308217 374761 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hadron = baryon or meson < 1303308234 570844 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(barring some theoretical > 3 quark combinations) < 1303308279 595445 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well protons are the only stable ones < 1303308710 385979 :cheater99!~cheater@g231051144.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303308714 924167 :cheater-!~cheater@g230229181.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303309236 398549 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303309279 557974 :cheater00!~cheater@g230228006.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303309324 24844 :cheater99!~cheater@g231051144.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303309431 150325 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-164.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303309507 28350 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303310115 187981 :cheater00!~cheater@g230228006.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303310178 262191 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061057.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303310247 246820 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303310332 228737 :cheater-!~cheater@g231051170.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303310458 2158 :cheater00!~cheater@g228061057.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303310842 461635 :cheater-!~cheater@g231051170.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647959 < 1303311055 923719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303311108 320123 :Guest90161!~variable@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Quit: Daemon escaped from pentagram < 1303311131 830492 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1303311869 734146 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1303312224 121558 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303312423 18937 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303312423 415831 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1303313131 37793 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303313160 397904 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303313203 590852 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaaaaaaan, when I actually have a QUESTION for ##javascript , it's all *chirp chirp* :P < 1303313318 63384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Better than ##c. < 1303313331 505406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Ask a question like a human would -> YOU WERE IMPRECISE. YOU WILL NOW RECEIVE THE PAIN. < 1303313345 327094 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: https://github.com/mozilla/narcissus/pull/31 <-- observe the greatest code I have ever written < 1303313349 666354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Ask a question with ridiculous precision, going so far as to cite the exact ISO standard identifier that defines C90 -> chirp chirp < 1303313364 22131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like comp.lang.c, because at least the second sort of question does normally get an answer < 1303313370 573249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the first gets flamed into oblivion) < 1303313379 559105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hey, comp.lang.c probably doesn't have PoppaVic too. < 1303313385 294303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WONDERFUL < 1303313403 941000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow at isValidIdentifierChar :P < 1303313410 345050 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one gets replies from them trolls about how "c.l.c fascists" are soon going to flame the question into oblivion. < 1303313410 888971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's so metacircular it's cheating :P < 1303313417 292092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like function narcissusEval(x) { return eval(x); } < 1303313420 593776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it defined? < 1303313426 550224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: https://github.com/mozilla/narcissus/pull/31 < 1303313434 997275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you refuse to /click links/ to GitHub, I don't care. < 1303313456 578850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a pull request < 1303313456 756710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Note that I did it this way after spending ten minutes compiling a database of all the relevant Unicode codepoints. I vote we don't do that :P" ;; Isn't there a file with all that shit? < 1303313463 341215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: With the function I referenced. < 1303313463 518825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did click the link, the information I wanted wasn't on the other end of it < 1303313468 162309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it was. You are blind. < 1303313472 914576 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but that would involve adding megs of bullshit to Narcissus :P < 1303313475 588297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well none of the buttons on the page do anything < 1303313482 770924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it require JavaScript or something? < 1303313487 292527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know/care/etc. < 1303313491 786187 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also ITYM that's so AWESOME it's almost cheatin g:P < 1303313511 983255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It already has kilos of bullshit, constituting a JavaScript program (one half bullshit), and a JavaScript interpreter (one half bullshit), making one whole bullshit :P < 1303313521 852655 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to require JavaScript and not from just github.com (which I did have whitelisted) but also from "cloudfront.net". < 1303313526 790676 :Ilari!~user@2002:5870:3714::1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :APNIC (3x/32+/48 IPv6): 2x1k to Australia, 2x1k to Hong Kong, /32 to Indonesia, 1k+/32 to India, 25x1k to Japan, 2x1k to South Korea, 1k to Lao People's Democratic Republic, /32 to New Zealand, /48 to Philipphines, 1k to Solomon Islands, 1k to Singapore, 1k to Vietnam. < 1303313534 723503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Froudclunt. < 1303313548 793216 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely thought unicode implementations had character classification functions... at least i thought that was how ghc did it... < 1303313556 308186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not JS :P < 1303313557 723366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's shit. < 1303313568 292091 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1303313571 133663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I should fork Narcissus and add e.g. block scoping, s-expression syntax, and make a pull request :trollface: < 1303313607 214321 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303313608 315303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: BTW, re: megs of bullshit, I bet it could be expressed in a few k with a list of (start,end) ranges, plus maybe a list of specific codepoints to not include. < 1303313654 958810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303313660 534080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Peculiar nouns: MIT AI hackers love to take various words and add the wrong endings to them to make nouns and verbs, often by extending a standard rule to nonuniform cases. Examples: porous => porosity. generous => generosity. Ergo: mysterious => mysteriosity. ferrous => ferocity. Other examples: winnitude, disgustitude, hackification." < 1303313673 979100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ferocity: THIS WORD IS A WORD THAT IS HACKER SLANG TOTES < 1303313674 156542 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You'd have to sign a Mozilla committer agreement to do the pull request lololol < 1303313685 678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I can't, I'm a minor. < 1303313688 513558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot agree to contracts. < 1303313700 929192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I CAN PRESS BUTTONS THAT CREATE PULL REQUESTS :D < 1303313703 18906 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Then you can't commit to Narcissus! < 1303313716 658438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No, but I can annoy those who doX < 1303313730 287499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads the Ammitter's Cogreement < 1303313739 920777 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's amazingly short. < 1303313744 268841 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can commit to narcissism though < 1303313763 507735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That is the stupidest agreement ever, it's "don't commit things that violate the license" + bullshit :P < 1303313789 320700 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, and? < 1303313800 491574 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's NOT "you give us all your rights, so lol screw you" < 1303313810 738826 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ANYWAY, I totes saw a news article about this smarmy twelve-year-old shit who fixed a buffer overflow or something in Firefox. < 1303313812 495605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO WHAT DID HE DO < 1303313839 605567 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get somebody else to commit the code :P < 1303313860 736446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hey Gregor, wanna troll Narcissus committers ;D < 1303313924 158232 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only one direct committer, and no, I don't want to troll him :P < 1303313979 558284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: YOU: THE WORST??? < 1303314019 570651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EL CAMINO BIGNUM: El Camino Real, a street through the San Francisco peninsula that originally extended (and still appears in places) all the way to Mexico City. It was termed "El Camino Double Precision" when someone noted it was a very long street, and then "El Camino Bignum" when it was pointed out that it was hundreds of miles long. < 1303314397 370417 :cheater00!~cheater@e181136166.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303314511 29304 :cheater-!~cheater@g231051170.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303314631 480899 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1303314644 759830 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :el camino del nerds < 1303314760 847316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did ~/Code get this big. < 1303315628 116943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GNOME3 will replace GNOME2 once it gets moved to [extra]." --Arch < 1303315632 672710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303316257 4736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists < 1303316258 354276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of lists < 1303316479 538082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'm going to work on that Forth again :) < 1303316493 468124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1303316496 377327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't type an at sign < 1303316497 74037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euurgh < 1303317142 548336 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : "GNOME3 will replace GNOME2 once it gets moved to [extra]." --Arch < 1303317143 605207 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1303317147 953869 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to switch to xfce < 1303317162 513195 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, it'll still have gnome-panel and stuff as "fallback" < 1303317163 439284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1303317171 930724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think that will be maintained < 1303317187 399467 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well okay, I will give gnome3 a try I guess. < 1303317199 886509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, gnome three appears to be almost identical to two < 1303317201 328895 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, didn't you say you would fork and maintain that? < 1303317201 746394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from gnome-shell < 1303317211 320560 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, okay, what is gnome-shell like? < 1303317213 813272 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I do use that < 1303317214 511789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awful. < 1303317216 185160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst. < 1303317217 535739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No you don't. < 1303317221 543711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-shell is the new thing. < 1303317227 186401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the worst piece of shit ever designed. < 1303317231 853504 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, what is it that I use then? < 1303317236 138489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome-panel and metacity. < 1303317249 655585 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, uh, isn't gnome-shell the terminal emulator? < 1303317254 143567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's gnome-terminal. < 1303317257 425299 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1303317262 382457 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so they dropped metacity? < 1303317269 4053 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_bisexual_people < 1303317288 726893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they just aren't using it by default. They're using Mutter, the compositing port of Metacity to Clutter, which is Metacity Three. < 1303317302 898332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Re: fork: Yeah, but between the fact that Unity is starting to look like it might actually be pretty good, and the fact that I'm planning to switch to a no-DE system on the desktop, means I'm not sure I care enough. < 1303317311 996392 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have to say I'm quite fond of metacity. It isn't fancy, but it gets the job done with minimal fuss. < 1303317322 899452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :D < 1303318591 198769 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303318709 605637 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1303318768 689990 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1303318952 545503 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B132F61.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303319078 635914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck is this game. < 1303319374 290283 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1303319546 491921 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :baez interview yudkowski < 1303319601 856948 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1303319605 104333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1303319610 947362 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you read it < 1303319619 588661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen < 1303319642 946409 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :baez asks some interesting questions and yudkowski says "I'm writing a book" < 1303319661 82550 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/this-weeks-finds-week-311/ < 1303319663 228981 :cheater-!~cheater@e181142115.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1303319711 559313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll read < 1303319723 865334 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :two parts so far but more to come < 1303319755 817731 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no transhumanism IRC < 1303319761 258234 :cheater00!~cheater@e181136166.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303319768 98798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1303319772 383568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1303319777 372757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a less wrong channel < 1303319787 865458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will have a high portion of transhumanists, i would wager < 1303319867 468080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303319944 914432 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303319945 377727 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303319945 555399 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303320069 185895 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1303320083 44165 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up < 1303320098 709158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atoms < 1303320120 827073 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :say something interesting < 1303320185 382497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's difficult < 1303320191 20430 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. No observable results for you, though. < 1303320194 610209 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303320205 174299 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :HRUPHRG < 1303320216 899535 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a schrödinger comment. and it died. < 1303320227 61778 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: wat < 1303320240 234968 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't internet relay programming < 1303320249 429807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is < 1303320500 594441 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303320526 129260 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303320526 307103 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303320526 307244 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303320528 460192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet relay porngramming < 1303320533 538799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[caret] highest comedy < 1303320540 110428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Deletion log); 13:56 . . Ais523 (Talk | contribs) (deleted "AAAAAAAAAAAAAA": offtopic (and the only contributor was '91.153.119.130')) < 1303320542 638167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what was the content? < 1303320546 290678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to know so I can make an esolang out of it < 1303320649 267818 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :;/ < 1303320723 899151 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's the right thing to do ? < 1303320729 957761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: wut < 1303320745 264601 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people think everyone should have fun < 1303320843 215824 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SUPPORT THAT IDEA < 1303321076 114681 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is no longer a VLC worshipper < 1303321096 158979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you realise you just agreed strongly with Eliezer Yudkowsky :D < 1303321118 816584 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i realise you think i did < 1303321131 255668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is _impossible_ for you to be sarcastic < 1303321145 875761 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is the conclusion < 1303321154 263695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: of what < 1303321159 381851 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want answers < 1303321256 442507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: to what < 1303321300 9954 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :science is based on the unjustifiable assumption that the world conforms to logic < 1303321338 675251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: catch the wave < 1303321345 658021 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wave < 1303321350 85687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: the wave... of power < 1303321359 899154 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont know what you mean < 1303321396 20175 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a famous bisexual < 1303321407 583326 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :bisexual is sexist < 1303321427 450191 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B132F61.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224] < 1303321437 632100 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my new all-purpose slander < 1303321467 333288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your MOM is a famous bisexualist < 1303321482 34049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: but if the world doesn't conform to logic then the world conforms to logic, so it's reasonable to assume that the world conforms to logic :D < 1303321491 436640 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :bisexuality = mysogeny < 1303321536 927533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: what was the content? <--- childish personal attacks, against someone I've never heard of < 1303321551 468172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the sort of vandalism Wikipedia gets < 1303321555 358378 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :genial mysost < 1303321555 986338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I need more details, or I can't make an esolang out of it < 1303321574 78164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they posted it in a public place, I have a right to distort it into an esolang! < 1303321574 555357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to get them, because you don't go around repeating personal attacks < 1303321574 732830 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: how so? < 1303321576 821022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however silly they are < 1303321581 225454 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : bisexuality = mysogeny // lol, I'd love to hear the logic behind this X-D < 1303321584 224918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not fair to the person the attacks were against < 1303321586 514287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes I do, maybe you don't :) < 1303321595 278397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it actually a full name or was it just like < 1303321596 709990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"john" < 1303321600 376596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :full name < 1303321603 793803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember it < 1303321607 69540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i'm totally john, and i want to know what they said against me, john < 1303321645 398419 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear john < 1303321672 220866 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Nothing is more demeaning to a women than a ``bisexual'' mans distaste and fundamental non-acceptance of her femininity < 1303321683 282250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what < 1303321685 825794 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is akin to spousal abuse < 1303321692 550110 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :at a psychosexual level < 1303321699 435671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1303321700 972994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D < 1303321702 59959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur funny < 1303321703 752688 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1303321710 737793 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :see here http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v9/9.06/4bisexuality.html < 1303321713 448373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: btw /msg :P < 1303321713 989368 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :bisexuality and feminism < 1303321719 768990 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes yes. < 1303321732 817694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: but how did you arrive at that conclusion < 1303321733 883695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :using logic? < 1303321736 69201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe isn't based on logic < 1303321742 197505 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course I didn't use logic < 1303321744 288431 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: I'm going to work on that Forth again :) | wait | i can't type an at sign < 1303321745 476335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1303321748 847627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it /was/ totally illogical < 1303321771 610315 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skipping to the end, "In conclusion, bisexuality is a form of inclusivity and supports feminism and homosexuality by challenging sexism and heterosexism and by seeking equality of the sexes." < 1303321772 300743 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that mean you were unable to do anything with the forth? < 1303321780 790121 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't try to force the false ideals of logic onto everythingg < 1303321794 179755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well i can't test it without renaming at, and at is encoded as zero, which I use to know when to stop searching :D < 1303321801 59050 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes but if you read it you'd see that she's completely wrong < 1303321804 636375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wanna try and fix my bug? i'll get out my virtual keyboard if you want to take a look :P < 1303321806 955065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a weird one. < 1303321852 310692 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, I'll be watching deadliest catch and whatever other tv series I've missed this week's episodes of... and then have a bath and/or a sandwich < 1303321857 993020 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no reason to use logical or rational thought, the only justification for doing so is because you enjoy it < 1303321869 276712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're a slave to the machine < 1303321883 573539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: crystal-cola: but if the world doesn't conform to logic then the world conforms to logic, so it's reasonable to assume that the world conforms to logic < 1303321887 63218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: do you have a response to this argument? < 1303321889 230527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yep, mindless consumer and idler < 1303321895 774949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it proves that logic is incontrovertibly true, even if it is not < 1303321903 309727 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303321914 555210 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Assuming logic is true, then since you used logic your argument is false < 1303321941 646290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: Logic is invalid. Everything is true and everything is false. < 1303321944 981814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So logic is valid. < 1303321958 269702 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have presented a definitive ``illogical'' refutation of your argument < 1303321987 290055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: here's my refutation of your argument < 1303321990 241399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: ur mom < 1303321997 840343 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're assuming that true = false, that's not provable < 1303321998 633585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even less logical and therefore more valid < 1303322005 271923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: no, but it doesn't have to be < 1303322006 673003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't need proof < 1303322008 285633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because logic is wrong < 1303322014 946606 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you agree with me < 1303322023 626681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: crystal-cola: Logic is invalid. Everything is true and everything is false. < 1303322023 806089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : So logic is valid. < 1303322029 138746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logic is invalid SO LOGIC IS VALID. < 1303322034 779092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, logic is valid, and so logic is valid. < 1303322112 568425 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :As Ayn Rand said, < 1303322120 807748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is valid and everything sucks < 1303322153 205524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: ayn rand based her philosophy on logic < 1303322154 503311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not valid < 1303322156 71703 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can ignore it < 1303322180 82740 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1303322188 684899 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303322190 849801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: what did ayn rand say? < 1303322217 244357 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303322222 710595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: don't you like debugging short assembly :| < 1303322272 980013 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whatever, you'll just put more bugs in afterwards < 1303322282 252863 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303322294 964456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: this is a damn subtle bug, not even impomatic could find it ;D < 1303322329 585520 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, if it's so subtle, why do you need it fixed? < 1303322362 414383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: erm, it's subtle in the sense that the code looks like it's absolutely flawless, and is tiny, yet it breaks badly < 1303322366 286999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use the at instruction, for instance < 1303322379 354793 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that do? < 1303322401 163889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: err, it's the at sign < 1303322402 832921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it accesses memory < 1303322404 428111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty important < 1303322409 55371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a problem with dictionary lookup < 1303322414 558147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would break other words as the dictionary increases in size, almost certainly < 1303322415 521827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh < 1303322418 368218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll see what i mean if you look < 1303322493 140575 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I want to look, it'll probably make me want to investigate < 1303322577 302464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://sprunge.us/OYVO all the commented out bits are _not_ code i'm debugging, just relics of old interfaces/implementation that I couldn't bring myself to remove entirely (ok it's like four lines) < 1303322580 598723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this line, near the end, is the important one: < 1303322581 89075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ; If this is uncommented, then trying to execute @ (= 0) reports "?" < 1303322581 318614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; dd 0x1c ; \ < 1303322581 496264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :; dw comp < 1303322586 394212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the function that is presumably broken is fword < 1303322597 45926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which as you can see, is pretty much perfect < 1303322598 489693 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd 0x1c? < 1303322604 645870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's the packed version of \ < 1303322612 964772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the fact that the at sign packs to 0 is used to terminate the list < 1303322614 742266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at is put at the end < 1303322617 828161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if it doesn't find a word < 1303322620 803795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the current word is 0 < 1303322623 186887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can terminate the lookup < 1303322624 432712 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1303322627 492880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll see what i mean if you look at fword < 1303322819 170386 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: she said that the universe defines order, so there is no such thing as an unordered universe < 1303322842 360533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. and that's interesting, because it's close enough to coherency, and sounds deep enough, that nobody notices it's meaningless < 1303322852 415580 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303322902 209057 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it meaningless? < 1303322923 254512 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you have cmp dword [di], and then you jump to something that does cmp word [di] without changing di inbetween < 1303322926 76261 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just looks wrong < 1303322937 630067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: isn't that the point? < 1303322966 430979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hmm, I guess I should check dword < 1303322967 590474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1303322971 93322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one-c is small enough < 1303322973 944761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the top bit is 0 < 1303322975 464652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: thanks a ton < 1303322983 151007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1303322995 950264 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The fake philosophical terminology of mathematical logic has misled philosophers into believing that mathematical logic deals with the truth in the philosophical sense. But this is a mistake. Mathematical logic deals not with the truth, but with the game of truth." - Rota < 1303323000 993659 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first 2 bytes are the least-significant though, so I doubt that all of it < 1303323172 665271 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it should in fact be a shorter way to check if it's zero, if you know that the low bits are never zero if the high bits are nonzero < 1303323222 638994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i don't know that, though < 1303323223 606408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1303323228 164340 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's meaningless. The point is that if you exist in some universe then "order" is whatever you perceive < 1303323228 449813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that nothing but at starts with at < 1303323241 277916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i pack with the first character getting < (your neuromancer or whatever rank becomes Sociopath) < 1303327310 411538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually only went down to the rating above that. < 1303327315 91239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :P < 1303327337 793358 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'd made my initial cash by taking on anti-corporate missions and it was quite high. < 1303327535 459883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh FFS dinner. < 1303327552 82724 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1303327566 752994 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of giving the agents to Beta or whoever, why not jail them yourself for no good reason? < 1303327576 803661 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then maybe hand them over. Can Beta kill people who are in jail? < 1303327634 684998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get paid a crapload for the names. < 1303327650 232865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nearly 50,000c IIRC. < 1303327681 424460 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you make much more by bank robberies? < 1303327689 315161 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bank robberies don't kill anyone! < 1303327694 518322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing is good. < 1303327806 594610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__, bank robberies are a bit of a black sheep. < 1303327813 650063 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1303327825 883234 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're obviously not intentionally such a cash cow, because it's actively gamebreaking. < 1303327926 72059 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, any idea how the network dual monitor stuff in uplink works? < 1303327949 856739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual monitor? < 1303327957 202243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, two on the connection view? < 1303327983 539064 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, look in the options < 1303328001 273703 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, click "edit multimonitor options" < 1303328004 582255 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wonder what it is < 1303328019 674667 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multimonitor as in having two screens? < 1303328114 249933 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't know what it does! < 1303328117 395196 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying it out atm < 1303328151 423345 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay one of them just crashed with SIGABRT < 1303328172 806890 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw < 1303328180 734203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This annoys me hugely. < 1303328255 645508 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there are two new buttons on the "client" on the startup screen of it < 1303328257 771859 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :one called comms < 1303328259 105947 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the argument itself, because it looks to be correct, but because this guy is quite clearly a free-market idiot. < 1303328260 671767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other called status < 1303328268 15593 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :clicking status causes sigabrt < 1303328279 203079 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to a detected buffer overflow in an assert < 1303328288 351147 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :clicking comms brings up an empty world map < 1303328292 30874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: lol sixty five pence OH NO < 1303328299 325269 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems pretty pointless < 1303328302 856136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: also known as approximately 0 < 1303328353 336487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: twenty-three seconds in, I now know that the Royal family is the absolute cheapest thing our government spends money on < 1303328354 113018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, watch until he gets to the crown estates bit. < 1303328361 223285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"its not the money we spend on them that sucks, its the fact that theure born and never have to do ANYTHING difficult in their life and people around the world are starving to death.." < 1303328365 546419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OFFICE JOBS ARE UNFAIR < 1303328372 540018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone must do manual labour. < 1303328422 419600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, erm, wait, you are pro-royals? < 1303328432 66506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, I'm anti-idiotic-arguments. < 1303328433 323425 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, whatever that multimonitor thingy is, it doesn't work < 1303328461 538522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Although the royal family does have /some/ use: look at America, who doesn't have a powerless highest-class to fawn over. Instead, people like Sarah Palin are famous. < 1303328481 522152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Royal family at least serves as a safe sink for everyone's patriotic adoration. < 1303328517 594757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that doesn't annoy me; the smarmy little man saying "they inherited this land SO OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A TRANSCENDENT RIGHT TO IT" does. < 1303328530 665181 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that is quite an interesting point < 1303328550 16963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I copied it from someone else, but I forget who, and it was a long time ago. :) < 1303328553 995306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they didn't acquire that land by free trade. < 1303328563 341437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty cynical land, mind you. < 1303328572 204742 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Yahweasel < 1303328611 795874 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nasty answer here would be "ah, that explains it", but since I'm not nasty, I wouldn't even dream about saying it < 1303328622 640699 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes this is intentionally not very logical) < 1303328625 542128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1303328628 494947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone copies their opinions from everyone else. < 1303328695 233191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This guy does not really sound like a free-market idiot. Free-market idiots don't like the Royal family. < 1303328757 2366 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Everyone copies their opinions from everyone else. <--- nasty answer: that was good, where did you copy that from? < 1303328771 571158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I made it up my very self >:) < 1303328805 844502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: This guy is actually pretty funny :P < 1303328848 388457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry, but the "they own the land" bit annoyed me too much to continue. < 1303328889 101256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Shut up or we'll kick you out of U.R.E.S.W.N.I. < 1303328908 606145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, are you denying that the royals /do/ actually own the land? < 1303328918 947485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they do, yes, but it's missing the point. < 1303328957 129262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey wait it's /that/ Grey. < 1303328959 141498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the guy? < 1303328961 307606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is the guy. < 1303329032 589525 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, would it be possible to gain admin on ever internal service system where it is possible in uplink before they change the password of the first one? < 1303329061 705731 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, just a small challenge to you ;) < 1303329512 620038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1303329618 150688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, probably. < 1303329624 987614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, admin passwords change over time. < 1303329639 870911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1303329645 344483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: WILL YOU TRY MY SCORCHED EARTH CONDUCT < 1303329650 332803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1303329660 678074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE IT WILL BE IMMEASURABLY TEDIOUS < 1303329697 130490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ALSO FUN < 1303329699 307187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I've decided I don't really mind the whole royal thing that much, though I reserve the right to be contemptuous towards anyone who actually cares about their antics. < 1303329757 677602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, certainly; 'TIS FOR THE PLEBIANS < 1303329786 765212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Royal family is utterly unnecessary, but getting rid of them is way more trouble than it's worth and they seem to be worthwhile. < 1303329789 494066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow. < 1303329917 541141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also get the sense that without the disadvantageous deal on the crown estates, there would have been another, more permanent revolution. < 1303329936 526457 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TL;DR: oh, English people! < 1303330039 75187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, you guys lost your monarchy so you just borrowed ours. < 1303330044 566853 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm... < 1303330251 102197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(True story.) < 1303330645 474624 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :These individuals are just as emotionally driven and biased as the rest of us, but they're able to generate more and better reasons to explain why they're right—and so their minds become harder to change. < 1303330678 180978 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola, wrong channel. < 1303330690 570724 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you want < 1303330704 170595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :happiness < 1303330762 149788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yeah this is the channel for english royalty ;DD < 1303330770 568087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("english" :trollface:) < 1303330825 197329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1303330834 87739 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top epidemiologist Jim Carrey claims that vaccinations are causing autism < 1303330844 438322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303330877 200261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: lol < 1303330900 981702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:20:34: Top epidemiologist Jim Carrey claims that vaccinations are causing autism < 1303330902 736980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good one. < 1303330963 429696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not an epidemiologist, but i play one in interviews < 1303332349 339101 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303332560 124242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/the-gaga-saga/ < 1303332574 446860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird Al: awesomest musician? < 1303332617 968079 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a conference submission "conflicts of interest" form: "3) This PC member has been a collaborator within the past two years. 4) This PC member is or was an author's primary thesis advisor, no matter how long ago." -- like murder, there is no statute of limitations for thesis advisorship, it seems. < 1303333204 591054 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1303333353 788238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303333405 599561 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za QUIT :Client Quit < 1303333919 995508 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303333945 335031 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303334025 205763 :SgeoN1!~AndChat@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1303334278 235672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I can't believe people have the _right_ to deny people permission to parody their work. < 1303334289 690655 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1303334298 290065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi rapido < 1303334307 761588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they don't. < 1303334311 739293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, no. < 1303334318 871931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's completely, unshakeably under fair use. < 1303334320 340265 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliott! < 1303334328 699686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But if he /didn't/ ask for permission, he'd have a rather difficult time getting contracts, etc. < 1303334331 847525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al is just a nice guy and as such always asks for permission. < 1303334347 5322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, it's in his interest as well. < 1303334555 111589 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arthur whitney's code is conventional: who would ever guess?: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4248#comment-65324 < 1303334581 850816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conventional if you totally reformat it :P < 1303334602 339829 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone into k/q ? < 1303334624 112608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like K (though I'm not very good at it), I don't care about Q. < 1303334633 231198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more comfortable with J, but K is cool too. < 1303334650 340189 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: comfortable? really? cool! < 1303334654 405113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1303334656 256561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE comfortable < 1303334658 790483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not comfortable :) < 1303334679 646820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then maybe it never gets easier than this :P < 1303334731 427425 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if k/q tables is ultimate data structure (there is no such thing) < 1303334741 471365 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is -> is the < 1303334743 646209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such thing :) < 1303334750 527258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're quite awkward to do trees in < 1303334758 866127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that can't do trees naturally can't be the ultimate data structure < 1303334768 941125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, maybe i should just say graphs < 1303334773 134396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees are just a subset of graphs after all :) < 1303334778 918593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphs are the closest thing to the ultimate data structure imo < 1303334784 396111 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DAGs please < 1303334786 287108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, that's how they get represented, no matter what the hardware architecture < 1303334802 782603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: acyclic? but then how do you represent x = cons y x? < 1303334803 733685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1303334840 576857 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't like loopy stuff - i get dizzy < 1303334881 278722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: < 1303334881 907741 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isprime n = not . any ((==0) . (n `mod`)) . takeWhile ((<= n) . (^2)) $ primelist < 1303334882 145503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :primelist = 2 : [x | x <- [3,5..], isprime x] < 1303334890 245177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[rapido suddenly gets so dizzy he passes out] < 1303334912 89391 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :primes are fine - they are unique! < 1303334921 743988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: clearly you haven't looked at how the code actually works < 1303334938 195938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :primelist is two, followed by all odd numbers n such that (isprime n) < 1303334939 126052 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1303334940 867343 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that J < 1303334944 719282 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, mutual recursion? < 1303334950 642982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :isprime n just checks that the number doesn't divide any of the primes less than n squared :) < 1303334954 13592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it get the primes? < 1303334954 962875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :primelist < 1303334958 131103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: it isn't, it's Haskell < 1303334962 715498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's the loopiest code i know of :) < 1303334995 223711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: so hand-waving, primelist is just all numbers that isprime, and isprime n just checks nothing in a prefix of primelist divides n :) < 1303335006 218672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and primelist itself is infinite) < 1303335076 915127 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you rewrite this into Y-combinator? it believe you can < 1303335086 187889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can rewrite any recursion with the y combinator < 1303335087 758 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :into <- into a < 1303335089 964007 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can but.... Y would you? < 1303335092 586230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but primelist isn't a function, it's just a list < 1303335110 603814 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell doesn't need Y combinators, U is enough due to lazyness < 1303335113 453690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks rapido should be a lot dizzier round about now < 1303335119 482695 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed point combinators other than Y < 1303335238 983774 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like fixed point combinators exactly because it doesn't require (lazy) cyclic definitions < 1303335263 7700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1303335265 831330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it constructs them itself < 1303335273 487879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Y combinator requires laziness btw btw < 1303335275 831707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it diverges < 1303335317 207739 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the one I learned in SICP < 1303335322 126858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not Y < 1303335328 428753 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y NOT? < 1303335332 485766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har har < 1303335341 449858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia calls the strict version Z < 1303335342 401144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z = λf. (λx. f (λy. x x y)) (λx. f (λy. x x y)) < 1303335355 309886 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice lambdas there < 1303335355 487306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course in languages with non-function types, this can only be used on a function, which sucks a bit < 1303335360 726261 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not if you feed the (derivative) Y combinator a fixed number of iterations after which it should stop < 1303335365 238275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: yeah, thank wikipedia :p < 1303335367 27167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: gross < 1303335395 706678 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it make the Y combinator a total function - ah yeah! < 1303335417 12144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, by way of being totally ugly < 1303335424 175440 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303335432 344832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's not enough, it's total but you can't list all the cases < 1303335435 466757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNACCEPTABLE < 1303335446 840319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must only take a thirty-two bit natural number of iterations < 1303335452 488354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, we can write all the possible cases out < 1303335465 606997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting the Order of Ultrafinitist Programmers, we code exclusively in lookup tables < 1303335485 173176 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sad thing is most programmers are already ultrafinitists < 1303335499 45366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like an unlikely propositio < 1303335499 590143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1303335501 653432 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lookup tables - that's finite enough for me < 1303335505 22654 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :using languages that dont admit infinite lists and such < 1303335552 888773 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-217-117.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't most programmers use turing-complete languages < 1303335560 818471 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1303335569 607167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I removed /r/pics and /r/gaming from my front page and I now see the advantage of having them. < 1303335580 987935 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that a total functional language can't emulate itself - is this true? < 1303335637 556321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What advantage? < 1303335639 864154 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it the other way around :) < 1303335640 41811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: hi there :D < 1303335654 245222 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: it's the same as all the other diagonalization arguments < 1303335674 402409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, they buffer out stuff that is actually interesting with mindless dross *very* effectively. < 1303335688 405345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And this is a good thing why? :P < 1303335724 725588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because stuff that is actually interesting sucks in time way too well. < 1303335896 850646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: I don't know < 1303335939 780685 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i also don't know (what you're referring to?) < 1303335957 728338 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, if it is true, if a total function language can't emulate itself. < 1303336052 968872 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo39: the guys and girls from LTU say it can't be: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3076 < 1303336081 233241 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :If e : N -> (N -> N) is an evaluator and for every function f : N -> N suppose there was a code c : N such that e c = f then let f n = e n n + 1 and x be the code for f then f x = e x x + 1 = f x + 1 < 1303336085 695931 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore 0 = 1 < 1303336120 622852 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is standard diagonalization argument like Turin < 1303336122 170162 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1303336140 598306 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gut feeling says you can - but you need BigNums < 1303336152 723037 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BigNums that are finitie < 1303336160 702200 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finitie <- finite < 1303336202 112946 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :BigNums are just numbers < 1303336204 192441 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say you want to generate x numbers < 1303336226 603188 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess mathematical proof is not enough to convince you < 1303336228 870071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BytePusher is one system that uses lookup tables for everything. (I think) < 1303336230 687111 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're talking about "total functional languages" and whether they can emulate themselves in theory, you shouldn't even be considering anything but infinite numbers < 1303336247 385812 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine integers are irrelevant to the discussion, let's say < 1303336249 373591 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you define a function that takes x^x - it is still finite - but slow < 1303336286 827238 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponentiation isn't total < 1303336312 921961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1303336324 26418 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the question of what 0^0 is < 1303336330 513127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, right. < 1303336332 401388 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :it grows too fast < 1303336337 637074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola is arguing in the bullshit sense, though. < 1303336345 27226 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no evidece that numbers bigger than 1000000000000 can be exponentiated < 1303336351 298077 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1303336353 979739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola: you're using the unjustified assumption that LOGIC IS VALID < 1303336360 709024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore exponentiation is total < 1303336364 492291 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like total functions - call me sane < 1303336384 65252 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :logic is relevant to this actually < 1303336397 156698 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :using logic one finds evidence that exponentiation is different < 1303336416 97847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's UNJUSTIFIED < 1303336417 268999 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like rewriting languages: 0^0 may be should be left not to be rewritten < 1303336421 673680 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as 0/0 < 1303336432 340024 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no reason anything should be justified < 1303336476 765318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve of the 0^0=1 argument based on set theory. < 1303336510 563042 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :id : Void -> Void < 1303336530 16204 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's the fact that x^x → 1 as x → 0. < 1303336555 660406 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would just leave x^x as is. < 1303336567 742041 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1303336587 430227 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a ray tracing engine that can handle diffraction? From what I can tell, povray can't. < 1303336590 475772 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x was replaced with 0 < 1303336604 27926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think $0^0=1$ is make sense (in general). < 1303336608 86296 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ray tracing? - ah yeah! < 1303336669 903421 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what's diffraction? does it concern 'corner cases' ? < 1303336677 922406 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean with that < 1303336696 606459 :crystal-cola!~quantum@unaffiliated/j-invariant QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1303336696 784370 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffraction < 1303336714 481705 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, full interference simulation would be even better... < 1303336832 422740 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: can you implement a turing complete language on top of a interference simulation? - i guess you can < 1303336845 335378 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, kinda-sorta possible, but it makes the process take much longer. < 1303336846 728145 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. that was not my intention in this case < 1303336865 522395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is it possible? < 1303336874 161669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, offline rendering here in any case, and I'm making one image, not a movie. So time is not an issue. < 1303336896 568529 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you're ready to compute for three years for your image? < 1303336908 599851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need faster computer? < 1303336922 870305 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh, is that the time scale we are talking about? < 1303336923 738936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, multi-cores? < 1303336932 671000 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, a week or two: yes < 1303336948 68557 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, multi cores - they make programming lousy < 1303336954 462316 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :... what? < 1303336955 153555 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Just a generic "time is not an issue" comment; but it's certainly possible to easily add a couple of order of magnitudes in ray-tracering. < 1303336968 620873 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, remind me, do raytracers work from light sources? < 1303336978 783050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: How do they make programming lousy? < 1303336985 86886 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there is both backward and forward ray tracing < 1303336995 948563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: not if you program functionally. < 1303337000 3003 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, so: both are possible, sometimes a mixture of them I think < 1303337032 852111 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think raytracers generally do diffraction; I mean, they're *ray*tracers. (And even particle-oriented things like POV-Ray's photon mode might not bother with that level of detail.) < 1303337052 181651 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: because you should abstract away multi-cores - but they always bite back through share memory :) < 1303337087 209130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the big problem is that you can't keep rays as rays: they don't bend when they diffract, they... fuzz. < 1303337101 445075 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, anyway, the kind of stuff I need here is the detail of the iridescence of a CD. Yes I realize it will be slow. No clue how slow. < 1303337109 475676 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes < 1303337115 186754 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Typically you just fake that sort of things. < 1303337126 703591 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if I could do this with tup < 1303337136 383299 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course - if you program functionally you don't have share memory (if you don't consider the garbage collector) < 1303337139 688356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: Why should you abstract away multi-cores? Shouldn't you simply write the program for each core (some of which may run the same program)? Shared memory is needed for this to work good, isn't it? < 1303337140 772493 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, but how would one compute how exactly the pattern would look? < 1303337156 55111 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, okay, I'm willing to give up on ray tracing. Lets do wave propagation or something < 1303337172 873243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I happen to have a DVD to hand. < 1303337175 858568 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: LuxRender's "TODO/papers for inspiration" page points to http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/people/stam/reality/Research/pdf/diff.pdf -- a siggraph paper about anisotropic surface reflections. But it's not something that's implemented. < 1303337182 259786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses EMPIRICAL OBSERVATION < 1303337184 578864 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes quite. That was just an example. < 1303337211 683980 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, *ooh* < 1303337247 515109 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hrrm, that "Alias | wavefront" sounds familiar... Isn't it a commercial render? < 1303337306 616533 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellliot: 'tup'? very intriguing - but what is it? < 1303337328 760013 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's a commercial company. But they did that Maya 3D modelling thing. < 1303337340 662916 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The paper uses a CD as an example. < 1303337342 221901 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right < 1303337344 398272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: Oh, it's just a build system thing. I'm trying to automate boring things. < 1303337353 504866 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well yes, it is an obvious example < 1303337399 187131 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: boring stuff? hey - i'm into CMMi level 3 stuff - talk about boring < 1303337403 190131 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "We have implemented our reflection models as various shaders in our MAYA animation system" -- right. < 1303337403 566319 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, if this can handle edge diffraction I'm in heaven < 1303337422 358833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: well, tup is http://gittup.org/tup/ < 1303337458 203655 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAGs! I love them! - did i mention that earlier? < 1303337469 537544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. yes you did :) < 1303337475 784274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: but tup's are better because the arrows go upwards. < 1303337478 809302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's faster that way. :D < 1303337505 88241 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also the poor man's choice, http://matrep.parastudios.de/index.php?action=view&material=448-cd&fc=14 :p < 1303337528 247034 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is a faked one < 1303337531 589512 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :upwards? is it purely functional? < 1303337553 483605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: It's a build system, the WHOLE POINT is sideeffects :P < 1303337554 545475 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in a sense they all are faked ones. < 1303337559 153004 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, and since I'm not doing a CD, it isn't very useful. I too used a CD as an example :P < 1303337593 507011 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, in fact I'm interested in edge diffraction, as can be seen around the shadow of a leaf or such. < 1303337618 206332 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah ha! i think build systems should generate immutable artifacts! - SO THERE! < 1303337634 426353 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, meaning that the paper you linked doesn't really help < 1303337644 815599 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :not edge diffraction as far as I can tell < 1303337653 262913 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be asking for a bit too much there. < 1303337666 25403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: but artifacts belong in a museum < 1303337669 847664 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I apologize in advance if someone besmirches your honor and you are unable to properly defend yourself as a result.' <- VERY AMUSING < 1303337674 489903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, museum would be a good immutable data storage name < 1303337676 912855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll write that one down < 1303337708 846856 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, oh - can i use your invention 'museum'? it's great < 1303337719 518602 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm not asking for it to be fast. I'm asking for it to be possible to batch render over a couple of weeks on a modern computer to a reasonable quality, that is all. < 1303337725 272726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the client library will be called indiana < 1303337731 577084 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, for a *CD*? < 1303337732 560624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now where do the nazis come in < 1303337752 484974 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no. that wouldn't be edge diffraction mostly < 1303337797 755129 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You could start browsing from http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.5490 and the Freniere1999/Tsingos2000 references; but I think it's quite unlikely you find these things implemented anywhere. < 1303337804 876373 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what are you possibly doing that involves edge diffraction? < 1303337831 600022 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, rendering an image! < 1303337842 199558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*What* image? < 1303337856 732661 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, why are you asking? < 1303337887 646377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, because then special-case cheating can be considered. < 1303337920 225404 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think "just fake it" is quite likely to be the most practical answer for your question. < 1303337949 630431 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that of a tree with a light from behind is what I'm considering. Giving the right setup you should be able to see edge diffraction around the leaves. < 1303337966 869792 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in shadows < 1303338004 274000 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, but yeah, if it is this hard I'll probably not invest time into it < 1303338007 756608 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Anyway, the arxiv paper has a GPU real-time CD example; and the famous double-slit experiment rendered, too. < 1303338035 691493 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice < 1303338041 822066 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm quite sure they don't bother sharing any code, though.) < 1303338158 250728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you do it if they do not share the code too? < 1303338191 771171 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theoretically speaking articles are supposed to be detailed enough for anyone to reproduce their results. < 1303338205 210383 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite often there's details missing, though. < 1303338209 98891 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want executable esoteric languages - above narrative esoteric languages - although i like story telling above reality..... < 1303338220 504702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the article should be a WEB or CWEB program to ensure that no details are left out. < 1303338258 412123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you can download the source file and compile it, and reproduce their results for sure!! < 1303338264 365609 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even worse if it's just a four-page conference paper; those things take so many shortcuts. < 1303338295 74526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ouch, the darcs people are apparently implementing a rebase < 1303338307 536652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What does that mean? < 1303338317 756790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to help it fix conflicts that itcan't figure out automatically, but still < 1303338321 21203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aieee < 1303338325 935413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: rebase is a feature of git that lets you edit history to make it neater < 1303338332 527283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus, less accurate to what actually happened < 1303338334 394192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we must team up with our enemies in the Camp team to stop this atrocity at once < 1303338337 630915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it causes all sorts of issues < 1303338353 162211 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, seriously? < 1303338399 285533 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1303338399 642317 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-95-93.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1303338399 819864 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1303338399 819998 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can edit history without changing the past < 1303338439 839223 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just create an alternative history < 1303338459 138366 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and leave the past (1 example of history) as is < 1303338465 45562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what git does, though < 1303338470 974831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it gets confused because the histories don't match < 1303338546 840266 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is git confluently persistent? - if not - it should be fixed to be that way < 1303338581 454507 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1303338591 514988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I have set up a git repository and I do not use most of its features, so maybe I don't care either. < 1303338603 102823 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm I wonder if http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.5490 has been implemented anywhere? Considering the date, of publishing, probably not < 1303338618 863625 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, outside their system < 1303338713 723045 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is not. < 1303338715 652894 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: has git bitten you in a way that you didn't expect? < 1303338734 133764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: No. < 1303338839 743984 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you alone? or are you part of a big team? < 1303338856 434909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1303338860 505764 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rapido: I have only worked on it alone. < 1303338902 5569 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :most version control systems work flawlessly when only a single person is using it < 1303339017 685868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is however, design so that also other people can make fork, and make other projects too, including to download and copy it. So it is possible for other people to do it even though it is only single I work on it, but as far as I know, nobody does, but that's OK. If other people have suggestion they can write elsewhere instead. < 1303339024 766494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, only the flawless ones < 1303339033 382428 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i'm alone but working with a lot of people: then i try to explain versioning / baselining- get stale looks ....and the scarce reply is: very interesting stuff! < 1303339038 159036 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, . < 1303339206 973690 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking out :) it's 00.30 in the netherlands < 1303339210 567795 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :later! < 1303339218 914508 :rapido!~rapido@85.223.41.98 QUIT :Quit: rapido < 1303339230 86998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be 00.39 in the netherlands < 1303339307 165662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads Reddit some more, concludes that he is somehow socially competent. < 1303339326 252872 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way? < 1303339364 467578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the way that people acknowledge my existence on a regular basis, although admittedly there's a titanic confirmation bias acting against Reddit. < 1303339401 668510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: being mentioned in the context of being "that faggot" doesn't count as acknowledgement, Phantom_Hoover < 1303339412 420980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahaha. < 1303339840 216138 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303339959 410958 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1303340227 224927 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303340357 838005 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would seem that Tup could use a way to specify an alternate means of seeing if a file has changed... < 1303340369 379632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HAVE YOU BEEN READING THE LISTS < 1303340395 818226 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, but I had actually been thinking that earlier today. < 1303340399 72495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What I'm trying to do is bootstrap Kitten using tup. < 1303340415 883302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which means that going from only my handful of tup files and maybe some patches, it will download and build every stage of Kitten. < 1303340446 122304 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be very nice to be able to, say, specify that a file is changed if the output from a program has changed. < 1303340458 721293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq! < 1303340464 609221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an American question!" < 1303340473 684618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys all think we have terrible teeth? < 1303340476 141019 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This would, incidentally, allow you to do optional checksumming. < 1303340478 187968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm considering just doing : foo.stamp |> wget http://blah/ -O [percent]o |> foo/blah. < 1303340482 155637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That'd be ugly, but /shrug < 1303340486 815304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably what I'd do with make. < 1303340487 968225 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, that is the meme. < 1303340504 292923 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ugly, but it functions without any changes in Tup. < 1303340523 753913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, and the other way would imply like five curl calls every "tup upd"... < 1303340554 68775 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yeah, but five curl calls to just check the mtime of the remote file... < 1303340568 878406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely. < 1303340572 673277 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The reason for this meme is that Americans place much more importance on the aesthetics of teeth than Britons. < 1303340589 689897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah. < 1303340622 506801 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*In fact*, the average Englishman has much healthier teeth than the average American. Just not as straight and sparkling. < 1303340689 415495 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Those remote calls won't take much time, especially with parallelism. < 1303340700 147706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But but tup is so fast otherwise. < 1303340718 29351 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though a more obvious problem with calling out to an external program to check for any changes is that it throws off the autoupdate feature. < 1303340726 874424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1303340757 822301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I can vouch that that is very much not the case in other parts of the UK. < 1303340776 586072 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How common are dental braces in the UK? < 1303340784 175955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, fairly. < 1303340792 454215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in Scotland at least. < 1303340811 883308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't comment on anywhere else with much accuracy. < 1303340819 829605 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "fairly". < 1303340855 586839 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, in a given group of people I know, some of them will probably have braces or retainers. < 1303340877 440587 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a procedure that is going to be done on anyone without impeccable teeth that can afford it? < 1303340902 139411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have braces? maybe you should tell them to stop coding C/C++/Java < 1303340927 91634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it was recommended for me, but I do have a gap between my upper front teeth that my tongue can fit into. < 1303340935 728253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not everyone, no. < 1303340957 406244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a totally fucked up tooth. < 1303340961 610429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A majority, or significant minority? Perhaps. < 1303341267 936324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, consider, though, that a friend of my mother's who is a primary school teacher in NI said that literally all of her class had rotten teeth. < 1303341293 397657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1303341348 770529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, 5- or 6- year olds. < 1303341383 724172 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-136-53.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1303341406 344247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, she is one of those idiot teachers who result in almost all children being dead to education before they pass 8. No, I am not allowed to do anything about this.) < 1303341443 909912 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1303341537 876129 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : Well, in Scotland at least. <-- YOU MEANT WALES < 1303341543 381753 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now, night, really) < 1303341589 949871 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suggest you murder her. < 1303341617 755718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, she's retired now on medical grounds the details of which I am unaware. < 1303341622 544689 :cheater-!~cheater@e181142115.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1303341647 466931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This surprised me until I realised that I had severely underestimated her age due to how mindmeltingly shallow she is. < 1303341699 24739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE REQUIRE DETAILS < 1303341824 314794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine your stereotypically shallow woman. < 1303341831 681966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no further detail. < 1303341835 239407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1303341838 730612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE REQUIRE DETAILS ON TEACHING TERRIBLENESS < 1303341876 104199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine the aforementioned teaching. < 1303341890 412205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I REQUIRE < 1303341891 132406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DETAILS < 1303341901 463407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the details, or have repressed them so I can stay slightly afloat in the ocean of cynicism. < 1303341918 795642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DID YOU KNOW SHE WAS A TERRIBLE FEATURE < 1303341936 996041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...TEACHER < 1303342141 416542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, she emanates this aura of "it is CRITICALLY IMPORTANT that children be FORCED TO LEARN TO READ by the time they are FIVE otherwise WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS ANYWAY" < 1303342168 34656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are children who enter school without being able to read? :) < 1303342185 572486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it is inconceivable to such intellects as ours. < 1303342200 378719 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: There are students who enter high school functionally illiterate. < 1303342202 385795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they can go to the retard school. < 1303342236 211090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, reading is not taught at all well. < 1303342254 85273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even consistently. < 1303342285 714700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep having babies and cull the ones who don't demonstrate above-average intelligence at the age of five, duh < 1303342325 27059 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty poorly taught pretty much everywhere that has non-trivial orthography->phoneme mapping. < 1303342357 519658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach them lojban < 1303342362 446789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dog < 1303342373 806815 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or even a sane way of spelling English. < 1303342385 22458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dogban < 1303342388 473775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban for dogs < 1303342393 433079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dogs are about as smart as five year olds) < 1303342402 87828 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hard to do, courtesy of the wide variety of phonemic variation in English. < 1303342451 910198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, not *that* hard. < 1303342484 337987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of actual *collisions* in pronunciation is relatively low between accents. < 1303342510 783222 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that each accent recognises a different set of phonemes... < 1303342555 63126 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, it'd be somewhat annoying just accounting for rhotic vs. nonrhotic accents. < 1303342585 589420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just imagined a Britain where Geordie is enforced by law. < 1303342587 114108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am lolling. < 1303342587 723578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even then. Collisions aren't all that common, and you can solve them generally by splitting them and merging it in accents that do so. < 1303342592 13077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMAGINE THE QUEEN SPEAKING GEORDIE PH < 1303342603 394503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1303342607 768648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1303342610 261351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU IMAGINING < 1303342622 505680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT GEORDIE SOUNDS LIKE < 1303342669 499890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UM < 1303342669 987337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SILLY < 1303342676 557052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND TERRIBLE < 1303342677 755670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOES THAT HELP < 1303342679 130611 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows Media Player is my new .wav player < 1303342684 193667 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because VLC currently sucks < 1303342688 79558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ignore < 1303342723 80385 :Sgeo__!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, not "sucks", but has one particular currently unbearable bug. Fixed in 1.2. 1.2 is not available to download as far as I can tell) < 1303342937 781732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Is it just me, or is there no way to specify PATH in tup? < 1303343111 705714 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, it is passing the build commands to /bin/sh... < 1303343121 466712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well yes but I mean globally. < 1303343141 409934 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be any way of specifying environment variables globally in tup. < 1303343150 62075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a shame < 1303343154 242409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have to resort to PURE SHELL SCRIPTS < 1303343202 221884 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wince* < 1303343224 32786 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: windows ce? < 1303343267 690108 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No. < 1303343373 791393 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of my plans in D&D game are those that the dungeon master fails to understand but it works anyways < 1303343381 353873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes even I fail to understand, too) < 1303343419 308782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway I was looking in my fridge today and I found a shot of flu vaccine lying behind the vinaigrette. < 1303343462 291736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you put that in the fridge? < 1303343470 42601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tasty tasty flu vaccine. < 1303343941 263802 :Yahweasel!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, chicken fnarfs so good. < 1303343976 571694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1303343981 433331 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it does. < 1303343984 611436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly TASTES good.