00:04:45 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:08:49 !slashes /// 00:08:52 !slashes /\/// 00:08:55 !slashes /\/// a 00:08:56 a 00:09:02 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:09:15 -!- pikhq has joined. 00:09:24 Is line noise valid slashes code? 00:10:00 yes 00:10:19 How many things can you do with a simple electronic circuit connecting to a USB port of a computer? 00:10:25 whether the perl interpreter has any bugs with it, is a different matter 00:10:31 (That includes some lights and switches) 00:10:35 !slashes kswgvjhy/jut/ j/x/uih /yr/ea//z/lsqir/m/b qv/uys/bf/e p/ye/tevr/b/bfthdtx/qsm////i 00:10:39 !slashes kswgvjhy/jut/ j/x/uih /yr/ea//z/lsqir/m/b qv/uys/bf/e p/ye/tevr/b/bfthdtx/qsm////i 00:10:40 kswgvjhyxealsqiruysyee pthdtx 00:10:48 X-D 00:11:17 !slashes n ajuqkyqwe/o w// b/h//kbwrpe/pp dm d/ /wt/x//hfe/ao r/koj //// a///dwrv/ 00:11:18 n ajuqkyqwe bkbwrpewtfe adwrv 00:11:22 !slashes wdks ulbqth/x/bw eg/o d/f ssjm//s/// /z/u// ///s/c/st k ine/h//scpzm/k/rb/jg 00:11:23 wdks ulbqtho ds ctkineccpumjg 00:11:24 See! 00:11:28 Random. 00:11:57 Lymia: actually your second example _did_ hit a bug in the perl, because it has a //.../ substitution 00:12:08 which i've never fixed 00:12:22 it should have inflooped after the ea 00:12:30 !slashes //a/ 00:12:48 ...that doesn't really tell you much... 00:13:02 hm 00:13:22 !slashes //a/ a 00:13:23 a 00:13:36 i guess that doesn't really either 00:13:56 can't //.../ just be illegal? 00:13:58 or a no-op? 00:14:03 -!- augur has joined. 00:14:15 the thing is perl reuses the previous string if you use an empty target, for some value of previous 00:14:20 !slashes /edde/bcdfeg/ /bgb/a/ /ee/eeafg/ /cgdd/fdcg/ /adaab/defefb/ 00:14:24 !slashes /dece/ae/ /fb/eca/ /gedded/cfebb/ /f/b/ /bfe/eg/ /cc/fb/ /bacfd/be/ /bcbf/fe/ /ba/eceaca/ /acaecd/ge/ /bafcfd/eeed/ /ge/gc/ /feeee/fa/ /b/bcafcc/ /caddcd/dba/ /c/a/ /gdec/cdba/ /cde/d/ /eggd/fbdef/ /dacdfe/gcegf/ 00:14:48 what a wonderful no-op program 00:14:52 coppro: elliott keeps suggesting it should do input since he thinks the GG...GG of iftlabtijtslwi is ugly 00:15:05 I dunno, I think // is ugly too 00:15:11 it's just the use of a letter and two characters that irks me 00:15:22 something like |x| would be nicest IMO 00:15:41 then you get \|/ :) 00:15:45 !slashes cebefegfecfaa /ac/dgea/ /aag/fde/ /ac/dbaeb/ /aedafc/ba/ /dd/fgf/ /abee/ggb/ /feada/fd/ /effacf/gaa/ /fcbd/dda/ /ead/ceddc/ 00:15:46 cebefegfecfaa 00:15:49 !slashes ddgeaegbbc /accab/ded/ /de/cce/ /ac/gd/ /ae/bec/ /fgfdec/dbg/ 00:15:50 ddgeaegbbc 00:16:01 elliott: the nice thing about GG is you are unlikely to do it accidentally, so itflabtijtslwi is mostly backwards compatible 00:16:13 -cc1 -std=c++0x -include-pch /usr/local/google/home/scshunt/llvm-build/tools/clang/test/PCH/Output/cxx0x-delegating-ctors.cpp.tmp -fsyntax-only -verify /usr/local/google/home/scshunt/llvm/tools/clang/test/PCH/cxx0x-delegating-ctors.cpp 00:16:17 oops 00:16:21 oerjan: fuck that, /// is about elegance not "backwards compatibility" :) 00:16:23 !slashes cbafcfgcb /dag/a/ /e/c/ /aec/df/ /a/cb/ /b/efb/ /dgd/ccca/ /ded/e/ /def/cab/ /ee/ba/ 00:16:24 was not supposed to paste that 00:16:42 !slashes fdgcgfffcc /bg/bdf/ /b/a/ /aa/d/ /b/gecbe/ /gd/dgd/ /dag/eedea/ /d/g/ /b/fgeg/ 00:16:52 It's like writing random Brainfuck programs to see what they do! 00:17:02 coppro: the paste police will come and arrest you now 00:17:13 Lymia: you really want shit after the last /... 00:17:16 not before 00:17:21 Ah. 00:17:30 -!- Aesculapius has joined. 00:17:36 !slashes /dg/ea/ /fg/e/ /ebb/c/ /bf/ece/ /bad/gcbgc/ /ag/e/ /ea/c/ /bfa/g/ /ca/f/ /bg/ffa/ /aa/gaaae/ /cc/ef/ /cf/eac/ /cgc/adcec/ eddad 00:17:37 eddad 00:17:47 !slashes /e/dfed/ /ccd/f/ /dba/eggee/ /b/faa/ /a/gfda/ /dbf/gdbf/ /f/g/ /fg/gb/ /e/ad/ /c/ab/ /def/fb/ /a/d/ /cc/df/ ecfag 00:18:03 !slashes /gh/ghh/ /hhg/gghgu/ /h/uuuh/ /hh/uhghg/ /uuu/ghug/ /u/uuugu/ /h/ggugh/ /uhg/hgg/ /gh/uhhhh/ /u/uuhgg/ /hu/h/ huguuhguhgu 00:18:08 :( 00:18:16 does anyone here understand brodal heaps? 00:19:32 Lymia: those did infloop 00:19:42 To those who were in the channel last night, I wound up contacting Lode Vandevenne through the email on his site and he uploaded the braincopter stuff that was gone for quite some time. 00:19:47 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 00:19:55 !slashes /ghu/huu/ /hgh/guh/ /guu/uguhg/ /ghh/hhhg/ /uu/uhu/ /huu/g/ /ug/uhhu/ huuughguughuh 00:19:56 ghuhhuhuhhuuhggh 00:20:04 http://lodev.org/esolangs/braincopter/braincopter.zip http://lodev.org/esolangs/braincopter/lk.png 00:20:39 "Gregor Samsa, "waking up from anxious dreams", is transformed not into a cockroach but into an "adorable kitten" in The Meowmorphosis, the latest attempt to "remix" classic literature from US publisher Quirk Books." 00:20:50 Aesculapius: is lode the gammaplex dude? i don't remember 00:20:59 quintopia - yes 00:21:08 he is, but gammaplex never disappeared 00:22:51 Yep just braincopter and brainloller. I inquired about brainloller as well but that is what he sent. 00:24:23 hes hiding the lolling secrets 00:24:44 Nah. I emphasised copter and said y'all said the other was missing too 00:24:59 he either didn't have it or just looked for what I emphasized 00:25:15 ...i did mention i didn't actually check carefully what else was missing, didn't i 00:25:22 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:25:27 * oerjan whistles innocently 00:25:45 I did a quick check and it looked like everything except those two was mirrored 00:25:52 yay 00:26:38 But yeah, he was really cool about it. I'm quite appreciative. 00:27:44 elliott: i guess that's somewhere between disney making the ringer of notredame and making "holocaust, the musical" 00:28:00 ...what on earth are you replying to 00:28:12 your meowmorphosis 00:28:14 all i know is someone has to make holocaust, the musical now 00:28:16 oerjan: oh :D 00:28:49 someone may already have, although probably not disney 00:30:33 google certainly seems to think someone did 00:30:53 How many formats are there for printer fonts? 00:32:41 Eventually the utility programs should be added in the "util" packages for TeXnicard, that can convert many of these formats into TFM/GF formats. Later on I might also add XFM (a format much like TFM) in case of more advanced features needed. 00:36:22 (I don't know if the best way would be to make a METAFONT format file that allows it to directly read the output of t1disasm) 00:42:44 help 00:42:48 my mouse is pinned to the left side of my screen 00:45:13 elliott: happens to me sometimes, i just restart (or maybe, i don't quite recall if it works, temporarily hibernate) 00:45:42 Alright, updated the braincopter page. 00:45:44 oerjan: yeah, I'm just using the keyboard until its hopeless 00:45:51 this is probably an Xorg problem though because... because Xorg is terrible 00:46:06 maybe the driver thinks its getting a continuous stream of left movements or whatever 00:46:11 i think i usually restart because it happens when the computer hasn't been in a while 00:46:57 i never restart usually, just restart X 00:47:01 sigh 00:47:08 linux support is utterly crap on this thing 00:48:06 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:49:45 SPRINGTIME 00:49:46 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 00:49:47 FOR HITLER 00:49:49 AND GERMANY 00:50:07 WINTER 00:50:09 FOR POLAND 00:50:12 AND FRAAAAAAAAAANCE 00:50:20 this channel. i love this channel. 00:53:59 elliott had won the vistory over himself. he loved #esoteric. 00:54:03 *victory 00:54:17 isn't that book a bit too new for you to be reading grampa 00:54:29 I HAVEN'T READ IT I JUST GOT THE MEMES OFF THIS INTER NETS 00:54:34 Muphry's law also appears to apply to too clever puns. 00:54:43 vistory is a good word, we should make it a word. 00:54:47 maybe that's my next esolang after Var. 00:54:48 actually i did read it once, albeit in norwegian. 00:55:10 meanwhile in Swedish bookstores 00:55:20 Bjärne bork bork bork victory bork. He bork Bjärne. 00:55:26 (Bjärne is the only name in Swedish) 00:55:51 today's short reading: Swedish War Heroes 00:56:55 it is funny because bjärne isn't really a swedish name, but sounds like one 00:57:18 sort of like Bjorn isn't a Norwegian name? :D 00:57:50 ok to be pedantic, it _is_ a swedish name, but not a first one 00:58:21 ok to be pedantic i may be completely wrong 00:58:39 (bjorn is not norwegian. or maybe i should check that.) 00:59:39 never mind the link to bjärne first name was fake, it should be an a 01:02:09 http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frithiof_Bj%C3%A4rne although he wasn't born with that name so it is quite possible he made it up 01:02:52 but there other people with the same surname, afaict 01:04:54 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:05:09 ruling out bjorn may be too hard, it's too frequently spelled that way for convenience and by americans 01:07:15 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: In other news I seem to require a restart for comfort). 01:08:04 i'm going to spell it þjôŕñ for convenience 01:10:56 -!- oerjan has joined. 01:16:50 i'm going to spell it þjôŕñ for convenience 01:17:24 þ is not a very similarly pronounced letter 01:17:34 unless you have the mother of all lisps 01:17:58 this is not important to the joke however 01:18:10 and a cleft palate, i think 01:18:42 whos that frithiof guy i cant really click links 01:18:49 in fact, i think using the thorn instead of the obvious "ḃ" enhances the joke 01:19:01 elliott: some swedish actor 01:19:16 just the most famous person name bjärne afaict 01:19:17 damn swedes 01:19:22 quintopia: "obvious" :D 01:29:41 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 01:35:36 -!- Aesculapius has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/). 01:42:50 -!- EgoBot has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:44:17 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:44:19 -!- Vorpal has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 01:44:20 -!- EgoBot has joined. 01:44:48 -!- Vorpal has joined. 01:45:30 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 01:48:35 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 01:51:29 * Sgeo_ wants to decide between the Nook Color, Bebook Neo, and Sony PRS-650 02:05:17 Where are programs reading other font files to make bitmap font for resolution and so on, maybe I can change it to output TFM/GF format if it doesn't do so already. 02:05:59 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 02:16:54 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 02:35:06 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 02:35:53 -!- elliott has joined. 02:36:02 apparently strip nomic is an actual game that has been played 02:36:15 this is more hilarious than it has the right to be 02:36:16 hm 02:36:30 Define "strip". 02:36:31 :P 02:36:56 all I know is "strip nomic" 02:37:00 but thats enough for me 02:37:16 I was saying "define 'strip'" because this would, presumably, be defined in the nomic. 02:37:23 And hence "strip" is up for change. 02:37:27 hahaha, scamming your way out of stripping 02:37:37 Precisely. 02:37:40 im pretty sure there's no way that can't be the best game possible 02:37:52 Also make it a drinking game. 02:38:20 im pretty sure the drinking has already happened by the time you get to inventing strip nomic 02:39:44 nomic nerds; now nearly naked 02:40:54 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 02:43:21 -!- augur has joined. 02:44:54 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 02:50:37 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:05:53 -!- MDude has changed nick to MSleep. 03:14:36 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:17:48 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 03:27:39 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:27:41 "Self-compiled compiler has disconnected from bootstrap compiler in dev build cycle; will henceforth be referred to as "the" rust compiler." 03:28:39 zeerust compiler 03:32:30 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 03:33:43 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:38:30 -!- augur has joined. 03:50:03 What program is that? 03:51:28 zzo38, "zeerust compiler" was a joke. I think. Mozilla Rust is a new programming language 03:52:29 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:59:43 Mozilla Rust? 04:00:10 Is it rusted and doesn't work anymore? 04:00:17 It worries me somewhat that my computer seems to have suddenly ceased to have cooling issues with this new power supply. 04:00:33 bah if it were new it would be Mozilla Iron 04:00:39 pikhq: I suppose that is because it is rusted and doesn't work anymore. 04:01:17 I'm going to assume that that means that my previous one was *shitty*, and the source of almost all my system's heat. 04:04:23 -!- TeruFSX has joined. 04:09:36 -!- zzo38 has quit (Quit: How I wish I could enumerate pi easily, since all these bullshit mnemonics prevent recalling any of pi's sequence more simply.). 04:12:41 My system is literally running at the same temperature it used to idle at... With full CPU usage. 04:12:55 I have literally only changed the power supply. 04:14:39 * zzo38 has quit (Quit: How I wish I could enumerate pi easily, since all these bullshit mnemonics prevent recalling any of pi's sequence more simply.) 04:14:40 :D 04:22:59 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:23:55 -!- pingveno has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:26:06 -!- pingveno has joined. 04:45:44 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:02:11 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 05:06:57 -!- TeruFSX has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 05:11:57 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 05:17:38 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:22:08 -!- augur has joined. 05:26:09 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:47:08 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:47:13 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 06:25:09 -!- augur has joined. 06:38:25 -!- Cheery has joined. 06:42:14 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:42:32 -!- pikhq has joined. 07:20:10 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 07:47:07 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 07:49:11 -!- elliott has changed nick to Phantom_oo. 07:49:14 x 07:49:14 Phantom_oo: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. 07:49:15 ?messages 07:49:15 elliott said 22s ago: 07:49:19 -!- Phantom_oo has changed nick to elliott. 08:06:41 -!- monqy has quit (Quit: hello). 08:07:21 -!- Lymia has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 08:10:50 -!- siracusa has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 08:11:45 -!- siracusa has joined. 08:12:19 Monad comprehensions are finally in GHC (self.haskell) 08:12:25 welcome back, old friend 08:23:31 -!- elliott has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:26:06 -!- elliott has joined. 08:26:12 Wow, some of Shiro's code is quite ugly. 08:34:43 http://sprunge.us/XbAS 08:34:45 this function. just look at it. 09:02:12 -!- pikhq_ has joined. 09:02:37 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 09:28:01 -!- pikhq has joined. 09:28:08 -!- pikhq_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:32:16 -!- crystal-cola has joined. 10:47:16 -!- FireFly has joined. 10:55:12 -!- Deewiant has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 10:55:26 -!- Deewiant has joined. 11:07:43 sertyguhvcfyuij 11:35:43 http://frox25.no-ip.org/~mtve/wiki/MemFractal.html 11:37:31 that adder is pretty 11:38:06 other examples needed badly 11:52:42 has anyone of you been to bletchley park 11:53:03 i guess that's mostly towards the people living in the land of Eng 12:02:57 Ooh, synchronicity; we've been planning to visit that place this June. 12:03:35 get out of our country normans 12:05:08 I thought they were gonna throw out alan turings stuff 12:05:19 they killed alan turing with alien rays 12:05:31 I mean the gov. "apologised" about it so they don't need to fund the maintainance of the musium 12:05:54 ahThe National Heritage Memorial Fund's £200,000 donation filled the gap. 12:06:03 the gap in their alien mind projectors 12:06:11 elliott: stop trolling 12:06:20 im being 9 percent sincere 12:10:51 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 12:14:42 What does "demonstrably incomplete" mean? 12:15:24 That you can prove that the system cannot generate all possible theorems within the system 12:39:21 13:36 < Slereah> Gotta study for my makeup exam of topology and probabilities :c 12:39:30 at beauty school am i right LOL 12:41:11 Isn't that the correct english word? 12:41:17 It is rattrapage in French 12:54:02 fizzie: nice. can you take some photos? 12:54:12 fizzie: i would love to come along ^^ 12:54:45 fizzie: have you read cryptonomicon? it takes part at bletchley park 12:56:51 Yes, though it was quite a while ago. 12:57:46 have you enjoyed it? 12:58:55 I seem to recall I didn't like it quite as much as some other Neal Stephenson's books, but that's probably just me. 13:02:52 i can't say i liked the "current time" parts 13:02:54 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 13:02:57 (i hadn't finished the book though) 13:03:02 i really liked the waterhouse parts 13:03:15 the ones with the marine were mediocre but not bad 13:04:05 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 13:19:27 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 13:26:13 elliott: ping 13:26:13 -!- azaq23 has joined. 13:26:18 pogn 13:26:47 elliott: I'm curious what your thoughts are on the AV system being proposed. I don't know much about UK politics ;-) 13:26:54 today is voting day - right? 13:27:00 yes 13:27:22 AV is better than first-past-the-post, like every voting system apart from the Random Elephant Stomping method 13:27:46 in a perfect universe we'd have Condorcet or even stochastic or whatever, but AV is much better than what we have 13:27:53 there's exactly zero chance it will pass, though 13:28:10 the FUD cloud is so thick that it's hovering outside my window as we speak 13:29:30 What do you mean? 13:29:37 AV is so complicated 13:29:44 It will cost tax payers trillions of dollars 13:29:45 crystal-cola: you're joking right? 13:29:48 AV = IVR - right? 13:29:53 It means that the BNP get to choose who wins 13:29:56 variable: if by IVR you mean IRV then yes 13:30:00 crystal-cola: trololololololol :) 13:30:04 elliott: erm yeah - typo ;-) 13:30:26 it's not the best method out there, but obviously it's far superior to FPTP 13:31:17 why was IRV chosen to be the one to spearhead the voting change? 13:31:31 dunno? 13:31:37 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 13:31:58 if FUDders think AV is too complicated, imagine what they'd do to Condorcet 13:33:01 depends on on the resolution method used 13:33:17 it really doesn't, you have no idea the kind of shit being said here :) 13:33:21 there are literally leaflets going 13:33:29 FPTP: All the votes are counted up and the person with the most votes wins 13:33:38 AV: [RIDICULOUS TEN PAGE "EXPLANATION" THAT MAKES NO SENSE] 13:33:42 THEREFORE AV IS TOO COMPLICATED 13:33:49 o.O 13:34:07 curios - who are the people against the FPTP system 13:34:22 you mean the ones supporting AV? 13:34:28 yeah. 13:34:36 and who are the ones supporting it 13:34:50 I mean -> which are the main groups on either side ;-) 13:34:56 the Lib Dems, who everyone hate, either because they're left-wing, or because the coalition has been ridiculously ineffective (they've teamed up with the right-wing Conservatives and have henceforth been the Conservatives' bitch) 13:35:03 the people against AV (for FPTP) are everyone else 13:35:33 and since it's being framed as it being a Lib Dem "demand" that the government is being forced to hold a referendum on, the negativity is incredible 13:35:47 it's a bunch of bullshit 13:36:15 http://gowers.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/is-av-better-than-fptp/ 13:36:21 Gowers is against first past the "post" 13:36:30 "post" 13:36:37 BUT WHAT IS POST 13:36:56 http://www.andrew-mitchell-mp.co.uk/images/winner_under_av.jpg 13:37:17 yeah, that shit 13:37:21 the best one is the boxing match 13:37:25 BOXING MATCHES HAVE TWO PARTICIPANTS 13:37:32 ALL VOTING SYSTEMS ARE IDENTICAL IF THERE ARE ONLY TWO OPTIONS 13:38:18 crystal-cola: that isn't a vote :-\ 13:38:44 variable: Don't bring your logic into our national shit-flinging fiasco plz 13:38:46 It's impolite 13:40:39 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VipbwQnEqwk/TWS9XAo9OOI/AAAAAAAAK8I/DoL0NdDAAWk/s1600/No2AV-baby-poster.jpg 13:41:21 if you vote for AV this baby will die! 13:41:27 http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2011/05/no-to-av.jpeg 13:41:29 and this one! 13:41:49 :-\ 13:42:05 * variable *really* hates stupidity 13:42:36 oh god i love that figure thing 13:42:36 like 13:42:42 i read the no leaflet 13:42:50 they list all these costs right 13:42:53 that adopting av would have 13:42:54 and then 13:43:00 they ADD THE COST OF THE REFERENDUM 13:43:02 to the total that av would cost 13:43:08 despite the fact that that cost is already paid 13:43:22 but it gets better, the sum they give is actually many millions more than the sum of the components. 13:43:25 because fuck you :) 13:43:28 -!- augur has joined. 13:43:41 i do like the idea that if av isn't adopted, they'll make like five million schools though 13:43:47 and hire ten billion doctors 13:43:54 im sure thats what will happen 13:45:34 I think "they" just don't want ANYTHING to change, because if the peopl start thinking that they can improve goverment... that coudl cause problems for control freaks that happen to be in power 13:52:23 I came up with a new propaganda: "Under AV, AV would win" 14:24:09 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 14:34:23 I forget, which alternate voting system is AV? 14:34:32 Since "AV" means nothing really :P 14:35:11 well it means you put preferences and the if there's not a strong majority it takes second favorites etc. into account 14:35:22 instead of just a cross for the one you want 14:35:28 "You know that bit on the Last Night of the Proms where they play "Jerusalem" and everyone in England sings along? I want you to imagine right now that they're all singing "No" at you. Not in a mean way. In a loving, patriotic way. But also sternly. With bows of burning gold and chariots of fire." 14:35:43 Antivirus 14:35:50 Gregor: IRV 14:35:56 They're voting to eliminate viruses. 14:36:02 You're welcome since everyone else's answers are worthless 14:36:04 I'm a wonderful person 14:36:23 Thank you, elliott, for giving me the data I actually wanted :P 14:36:34 ?? 14:37:06 crystal-cola: Gregor was asking what voting system AV actually is :P 14:37:09 The answer is instant-runoff. 14:37:21 it's called AV 14:37:25 No, it's not. 14:37:29 * Gregor bashes crystal-cola's head into a wall. 14:37:30 Nobody called it AV before this referendum. 14:37:34 It's called IRV. 14:37:34 fuck you guyts 14:37:36 AV is a retarded name. 14:37:39 crystal-cola: what 14:37:40 AV means "alternative voting" 14:37:43 you're retarded 14:37:46 Every voting system is an alternative to another voting system. 14:37:46 Gregor: It means alternative /vote/. 14:37:53 elliott: Oh, sorry :P 14:37:53 Gregor: i.e. you have alternate VOTES for candidates. 14:37:57 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 14:38:03 Jokes are valuable too! 14:38:04 AFK 14:38:07 It makes slightly more sense than "alternative voting [system]" which I too originally assumed :P 14:38:22 Right, but there are also dozens of voting systems that fit that description. 14:38:45 Clearly we should name voting systems with a compact representation of their algorithms :P 14:41:28 Yesssssssssss 14:41:32 Then make an initialism of that. 14:41:33 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 14:41:58 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 14:42:08 I was unaware that voting systems had any notable cost (in general). 14:42:43 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 14:42:52 pikhq: ? 14:43:09 Of course they do. They have to print ballots, institute new counting systems, train the relevant people on how to tally properly, etc etc. 14:43:10 crystal-cola: So what's this about being retarded 14:43:25 Gregor: I said "notable". 14:43:29 Gregor: Hey, I was going to approach that point with wilful non-understanding. 14:43:45 Gregor: i.e. cost *over* what you're already paying just to run an election. 14:43:48 Gregor: We should name them based on some lisp code implementing the counting, and then taking the initial characters of the most important (sub)expressions. So do you prefer ((((((((( over (((((((((((((((? 14:43:52 pikhq: Well, how much does it cost to NOT kill a baby? 14:44:01 pikhq: It costs about the same to implement a new voting system. 14:44:16 Gregor: Fairly absurd amount, if by "NOT kill" you mean "spare no expense in saving". :P 14:44:30 No, I just mean "NOT kill" 14:44:35 You asked what something is and I explained it, that is not justification for being cunts 14:44:41 Basically, if you institute AV, then they throw babies in furnaces. 14:44:48 Oh, so straight-up inaction? 14:45:01 Gregor: All the therapy to treat those people who get depressed when they don't get to kill any babies, etc etc. 14:45:06 It costs the same amount to not institute AV! 14:45:08 you asked an ambiguous question and I didn't get what you meant, so go fuck yourself 14:45:18 THE ONLY OPTION IS TO REQUIRE EVERY VOTER TO PAY 14:45:26 Otherwise, they'll throw babies in furnaces! 14:45:27 lol @ crystal-cola's overreaction 14:45:33 And use it to run generators! 14:45:38 Followed by lol @ crystal-cola's overreaction to my lolling at his overreaction. 14:45:43 SOYLENT ELECTRICITY IS PEOPLE! 14:45:53

You asked what something is and I explained it, that is not justification for being cunts 14:45:57 I wasn't a cunt. 14:46:09 pikhq: Peoplectricity is renewable, though. 14:46:27 Note how Sgeo who didn't even try to be helpful is inexplicably unoffended on account of not taking every off-hand joke personally. 14:46:31 fizzie: As renewable as our food. 14:46:37 fizzie: Which is "not very" ATM. 14:46:57 pikhq: But if you burn enough people, there's less to eat and/or use the electricity. 14:47:17 You just need to find the right balance there. 14:47:28 Nah, that'll just result in more fuckin'. 14:47:36 You fucking idiots can make fun of me all you want I don't give a shit because you're both on ignore now 14:47:46 ... bahahahaha. 14:47:48 Wow. 14:48:15 I didn't realize crystal-cola was such an expert in extreme overreaction to near-zero offense. 14:50:19 Gregor: Uh, seriously? 14:50:44 elliott: I'm not much of an observer of people. 14:51:51 Scrolling up I didn't even mention anyone at all, just their answers :P 14:53:06 Anyway, the point is that the vote is actually "institute AV (+ bonus baby furnaces)" vs "do not institute AV (and no baby furnaces)" 14:53:14 fucking assholes 14:53:29 I thought we were on ignore for being horrible people. 14:54:12 Wow, you can bookmark Chrome's new tab page. 14:54:26 elliott: I've actually noticed that. 14:54:27 It's... so beautiful... 14:54:40 I'm going to add it to my bookmarks so I always have a new tab handy when I need it 14:54:53 Yess 14:54:55 Yesssss 14:54:58 I just pinned the new tab page 14:55:00 Yessssssss 14:58:56 someone should bash your snotty fucking stuck up headin 14:59:05 I'M EXTREMELY OFFENDED 14:59:07 YOU ASSHOLE 14:59:08 AGIUHGEIUGHEIUGHERIUGHUIERGHIERG 14:59:22 -!- elliott has left ("RAESRIUGAIUGHIUHGIERGOIUERHGIUOAEHGOIAEHGRIUOAEHGIOHGIUHRGIOEHG"). 14:59:26 -!- MSleep has changed nick to MDude. 14:59:28 -!- elliott has joined. 14:59:31 lol 14:59:33 I don't see the appeal... 15:00:12 Yeah, it really is much easier to not be a whiny little dipshit that takes every off-hand comment as an intensely-personal insult. 15:00:36 I'm all for whiny dipshits 15:15:28 Go to google.co.uk -> go to image search -> search for "pip pip cheerio" -> wtfwtfwtf 15:18:59 thats britain for you 15:19:06 What exactly are you referring to 15:19:32 Apparently "pip pip cheerio" (in two of the top 10 or so image results) refers to gigantism of particular intimate body parts. 15:19:48 In a condition I can only assume is called pippipcheeriism 15:19:51 They appear to originate from tumblr posts. 15:20:06 A user named pip-pip-cheerio is mentioned on the pages in question. 15:20:20 Now that everyone else has forgotten that Google Images can give you the source web page, I will rule supreme as master of all knowledge. 15:20:38 I'm at work, so did not go so far as to click through :P 15:20:51 It's OK to have that stuff on your screen BUT IF THERE WERE WORDS TOO OH GOD 15:21:30 Pretty much. 15:22:10 -!- pikhq has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 15:22:14 -!- pikhq has joined. 15:22:56 i just hit my head with my knee 15:22:57 that hurt 15:23:00 how did i manage that 15:23:31 Carefully 15:23:58 by trying repeatedly. practice makes perfect. 15:27:41 Alternatively, you could do it with little training or practice by removing the knee in question, thereby allowing it to move more freely and without obstacles. 15:27:56 Noted. 15:33:15 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 15:33:16 -!- sebbu2 has quit (Changing host). 15:33:16 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 15:34:03 Now that everyone else has forgotten that Google Images can give you the source web page, I will rule supreme as master of all knowledge. <-- uh of course it can? 15:34:28 Gregor: I believe some manner of physical pain should be dispensed to Vorpal for his inability to comprehend any kind of context at all. 15:34:32 See to it. 15:35:02 elliott, it is a lot more fun to not read context! 15:35:12 elliott, it makes you irritated for a start. 15:35:18