< 1310170351 910097 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1310170590 293640 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-241-58.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1310170598 468550 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310170616 523311 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly are the probabilities related to DARK CLEFABLE [Lv33]? Is it just 1/3? < 1310170725 62226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you're unlikely to find out without testing the game a lot < 1310170731 382577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it isn't a real card, it doesn't say on the card < 1310170734 974661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could work it out by experiment < 1310170766 366362 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such experiment would be difficult for many reasons though. Although, maybe there are some cheat codes that can help < 1310170806 668177 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible though, to make a probability of 1/3 (as well as other numbers) with coins. I know a few methods to do so. < 1310172176 753310 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is if you accept that your method may never terminate < 1310172193 245062 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the same is technically true for a simple flip as well < 1310172210 858026 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there is always the possibility, however remote, of edge < 1310172564 158893 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the possibility that I will teleport to the moon, but we don't usually discuss this. < 1310173289 186026 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, there are moths in this apartment too < 1310173295 358636 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1310173295 692714 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them flew into my cooking pasta < 1310173304 508173 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than your rotting pasta < 1310173688 248866 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229131167.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1310174391 506718 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229130163.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1310175434 268139 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1310175552 743711 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you should be more careful. Unless you are trying to make moth pasta. < 1310175606 289972 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4f592.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310175789 756937 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH < 1310175800 905124 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been on Google+ for TWO DAYS and already I'm getting added by people that I don't know if I know >_< < 1310175862 864056 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, let me help! < 1310175964 99223 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1310175990 122220 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is google+'s privacy better < 1310176022 970948 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: It actually exists. :P < 1310176031 940807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it's designed better but IIRC is buggy atm < 1310176121 441676 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I assume that you know if you know me? < 1310176145 356898 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: That's quite the name. < 1310177036 320239 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229130163.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1310177245 374292 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310177766 892065 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I made a program overlaying PBM pictures in TeX documents, it is one which is 100% compatible with TeX. I can use it later if I have something that I will want to add pictures into the spare spaces of the document. < 1310177818 886854 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1310178073 249273 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there program or algorithms to automatically layout a block diagram or similar diagrams? < 1310178821 270108 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I did the unthinkable. I got google+. No idea why. I think google betas are somehow addicting. Maybe because they are hard to get? < 1310178970 869044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't care for social networks < 1310178977 425213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether or not they're less evil than Facebook < 1310179269 945607 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't need social networks. Although if decentralized it might be an improvement in some ways. < 1310179282 338795 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310179339 259454 :javawizard!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1310179384 676665 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1310179571 142399 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310180161 615891 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who "Sachiru" is? On this log? http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/irc_log/GAMESESSION/1307961179 < 1310180379 567492 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable NICK :Cthulhu] < 1310180387 170191 :Cthulhu]!~thing@unaffiliated/variable NICK :variable < 1310181943 644369 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like the PBM overlay program in TeX? < 1310182104 698297 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it trying to be everything with Google now? < 1310182253 758731 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: { < 1310182548 634744 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1310182745 116270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%x",11656948); < 1310182750 120530 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b1def4 < 1310182842 486382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%p", malloc(4)); < 1310182844 612482 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x7fe8070ae010 < 1310182851 958439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, 64-bit < 1310183617 84772 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exactly a secret that it's 64-bit :P < 1310183628 887032 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", sizeof(void *)) < 1310183630 940518 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 < 1310183750 205491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, it just surprised me < 1310183756 640522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run 32-bit OSes even on 64-bit hardware < 1310183778 788341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because narrower pointers normally save more time than narrower arithmetic loses < 1310183821 63269 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1310183842 843708 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may (or may not) be true on MIPS vs MIPS 64-bit, but on x86 you have to consider the fact that you're weighing 1 vs 9 general purpose registers. < 1310183864 605582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: memory bandwidth < 1310183874 338465 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1310183881 137907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the major bottleneck for the majority of programs nowadays < 1310183910 799015 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that x86_64 then removes a memory bottleneck. < 1310183911 720467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the main advantage of FPGAs vs. CPUs is that they can be designed with a separate memory for each variable, thus having no similar bottleneck < 1310183936 965725 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have some actual numbers to back that up? I recall seeing some 32-bit/64-bit benchmarks on Ubuntu old.old a year or two ago, and 64 bits was a win in (at least a large majority of) their tests. < 1310183948 213389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's a guess < 1310183957 676047 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's not because of being 64-bit, but because x86_64 adds more general-purpose registers. < 1310183959 111036 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a guess that happens to be WILDLY incorrect for x86_64. < 1310183965 63447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1310183969 889660 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well of course. < 1310183983 192608 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But like pikhq said, probably not much to do with the bitwidth, more to do with 1-vs-9 GP registers :P < 1310183992 807239 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's *very* few cases where 64-bit arithmetic is a win. < 1310184005 766134 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But holy fuck only 1 general-purpose register is lose. < 1310184033 188976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's a bit of a silly design < 1310184057 21988 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which one that is depends enormously on situation, since of course there are no truly general purpose registers, just some "common purpose" and some "less common purpose" registers) < 1310184145 102474 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can treat EBX as general-purpose. < 1310184185 28249 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not if you're in a shared library on UNIX. < 1310184217 233203 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except when doing PIC. < 1310184220 571485 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yeah. < 1310184231 229987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you use CX as general-purpose? < 1310184232 627992 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case there does not exist a general-purpose register. < 1310184247 827691 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The count register is firmly not general-purpose. < 1310184253 599785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1310184264 275843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does work in a wide range of commands, though, and you often aren't using it for anything else < 1310184282 828527 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The thing is, that's the status of EVERY x86 register. < 1310184290 296333 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :With varying degrees of "often" < 1310184296 108246 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what makes it such a minefield. < 1310184319 10523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of the PIC microcontroller architecture, where more than half of the registers are special purpose and there's no other RAM, and the documentation pretty much says "if the register's writable and readable and whatever you're putting there isn't going to have undesirable side-effects, feel free to use it as general-purpose" < 1310184335 247805 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including EBX. It just so happens to not be commonly used for its purpose in non-PIC 32-bit code. < 1310184395 504660 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310184408 998691 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1310184415 61422 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1310184618 427461 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310184628 830174 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-62.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1310185123 696166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1310185275 977746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, on the subject of unlikely flamewars that I've got into [...] <-- I SENSE REDUNDANT STATEMENT < 1310185294 692278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't see the redundancy < 1310185301 850669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we weren't on that subject beforehand < 1310185321 794755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see you as a person who gets into flamewars, thus the "unlikely" is redundant. < 1310185323 825199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor afterwards < 1310185331 976094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get into VCS flamewars on occasion < 1310185343 802605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1310185346 665862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I meant that the flamewar was unlikely to exist at all, and me having gotten into it was independent < 1310185363 752826 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1310185548 748433 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes! < 1310185549 917123 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! < 1310185559 229345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how indecisive < 1310185621 215346 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO YOU WANT TO PLAY AGAIN? (PLEASE TYPE 'YES SIR!' OR 'NO SIR!') < 1310185657 803708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO SIR! < 1310186438 766504 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is stupid some people do not even have a landline anymore. < 1310186502 444882 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I cannot find many payphones anymore. < 1310186539 765584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't have a landline
< 1310186899 203406 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a telephone at all? < 1310186932 554916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a cellphone yes < 1310186979 675622 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have software on your cellphone for receiving faxes? < 1310187002 716681 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, do you know how to write such a software? < 1310187014 40171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it is an old model :P < 1310187136 562441 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want a cellphone I prefer landline phone. < 1310187170 708723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1310187189 693530 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said they will take them away? Who did that? < 1310187212 245376 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will it become illegal or something like that? < 1310187288 693567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would expect if they disappear it would be because the market for them became too small to support < 1310187325 240357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because afaik most young people _do_ prefer cell phones < 1310187454 918143 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Finland the percentage of homes with a landline contract has gone from 94% in 1995 to 33% in 2007; it's probably <30% already, though the speed at which it's dropping has understandably slowed. < 1310187604 853193 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many offices have a landline, though? < 1310187626 127995 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :20% of homes at the beginning of this year, apparently. < 1310187706 832300 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they publish statistics about offices; at least large ones (>10 people or something) are quite likely to have some sort of fixed telephone system, I'd guess. But that's just a guess. < 1310187803 939211 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, this link to a "report on the use of telecommunications services" on the communications regulatory authority site points at the server "pub.laru.local". < 1310187893 756761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I take it that doesn't resolve from public internet? < 1310187900 906667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just about stupid enough that I could imagine it either way < 1310187919 748687 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. I don't think anyone's bought the ".local" TLD yet. (I wonder if ICANN would even sell it.) < 1310187938 62482 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'd catch probably quite a lot of misconfigurations with a public *.local wildcard entry. < 1310187941 219160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there have been people registering it, I think < 1310187946 859091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly with CAs < 1310188026 118854 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least zeroconf uses .local and multicast-DNS, might be problematic if it also existed as a "regular" TLD. < 1310188060 39272 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion a lot of TLDs exist that shouldn't. < 1310188084 102249 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some should be named a bit differently. < 1310188221 968438 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll start actually accepting applications for pretty much any name starting from January 12th next year. Costs $185000 to apply, and then €25000/year to keep it. < 1310188228 106932 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/€/$/ < 1310188348 146907 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1310188489 874737 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one suggestions for a TLD called ".opts" although to work properly it MUST NOT be registered by anyone. Instead it must be dealt with by the driver. It can be used to set options on DNS and timeouts and various other things, including use of IPv6 vs IPv4, and so on. < 1310188620 432275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`factor 209 < 1310188623 862302 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :209: 11 19 < 1310188651 69243 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then allocate one range of the "invalid" IPv4 addresses for use of driver specific things. < 1310188702 535283 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all IPv4 programs automatically work with IPv6 as well. And even if a program specifies "IPv6 only", you can still use IPv4 as well, too. < 1310191357 18652 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there computers with many bit hacking operations built in? Which ones? < 1310191721 846059 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are "bit hacking operations"? < 1310191771 752845 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intel and AMD both have recently added opcodes POPCNT (count of set bits) and LZCNT (number of leading zeros), if that's the sort of thing you mean. < 1310191859 950474 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually LZCNT seems to be AMD-only. < 1310191932 568145 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course x86 has long had BSF/BSR which locate the first/last set bit in a register. < 1310191945 750979 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Since 80386.) < 1310192073 140419 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Z80 has a rather silly nybble-rotating operation, RRD. I think it might be intended for doing things on BCD values. < 1310192351 880057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean other things too, including rearranging bits in a value, and even INTERCAL's "select" operation, and a lot of other stuff including the things you have mentioned, too. < 1310192476 521667 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1310192496 106193 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that the SIMD instruction sets can do shuffling and INTERCAL-style select but only on byte level. < 1310192537 664048 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or actually I guess shuffling only shuffles 16-bit words. < 1310192744 943980 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The EXTRQ instruction introduced in SSE4a can extract a contiguous sequence of bits; you give it (as immediate arguments) offset and the number of bits, and it selects those, puts them to the least-significant positions, and clears rest to zero. < 1310192774 968139 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of a general-purpose "select one field out of a SIMD register" op. < 1310192824 983173 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And INSERTQ is the reverse operation of that.) < 1310192844 729247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"contiguous"? boring < 1310192849 320430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do an unmingle with that? < 1310192877 593318 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they had INTERCAL efficiency in mind when designing SSE things. < 1310192982 654161 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I read somewhere that PDP-10 allows accessing a contiguous sequence of bits somehow < 1310193160 339560 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to, yes. < 1310193179 624113 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any CPU have a command to do Muxcomp (see the article in esolang wiki)? < 1310193184 469717 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/So/Do/ < 1310193776 209324 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4f592.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1310194137 668328 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1310194406 663659 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1310194475 536065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310195297 292124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1310198287 389066 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Linux have a mode to make it not automatically make a USB keyboard work if there is already a keyboard (even not USB) connected? < 1310198322 15701 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does < 1310198326 445027 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not be written yet, though < 1310198392 788372 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyfuzz with kernel patch < 1310198397 318070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1310198535 823954 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something that might be hackable with udev rules and some scripts. < 1310198556 530003 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need to futz with udev. < 1310198594 165394 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically, all the hotplugging stuff isn't *in* Linux. Linux just sends a message saying "Hey, new device, do something with it" out, and udev responds.) < 1310199170 909888 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-62.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: left < 1310199216 123444 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if a process directory is the current directory when the process is terminated? < 1310199251 444734 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing that happens whenever a process is in a nonexistent directory < 1310199278 164813 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes sense. But what happens in that case? < 1310199288 365916 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get very loud complaints from your programs. < 1310199288 528273 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you just get errors until you change it again? < 1310199307 955667 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, loud complaints from your shell, loud complaints followed by exit(1); by your normal programs. < 1310199334 273235 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presuming they try to read from the pwd) < 1310199532 993582 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Linux have the ability to unlink, but not delete until every process in the directory is terminated or moves elsewhere? < 1310199589 149411 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a variant of background processes that can instead just output the process ID to stdout so that it can be used in `...` commands? < 1310199695 264276 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it can be done with fork() or something in a C program? < 1310199922 314713 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Well, that's neat. Utterly pointless, but neat. < 1310199928 792457 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have every extant Linux version here. < 1310200127 613732 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wha? < 1310200153 690458 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://padator.org/linux/full-history-linux.git.tar < 1310200180 185821 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That + a git pull gets you all of Linux up to when you did a git pull. < 1310200373 133171 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I uninstalled most of the stuff that MiKTeX installs by default, and it saves 400 MB of disk space by doing so. < 1310200399 761107 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: In bash, $! expands to the PID of the most recently executed background command, so something in the style of blah `blah >/dev/null 2>&1 & echo $!` could work, if your shell is bash. < 1310200436 539396 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK, that can work. Thanks for information. < 1310200456 311928 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/b/b9/I%27ll_just_look_at_this_one_article_on_tvtropes.jpg < 1310200638 926814 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I uninstalled everything except the Plain TeX, Plain METAFONT, Computer Modern fonts, AMS fonts, DVI previewer, and printing program. Although for some reason the "hyphen.tex" file needed by Plain TeX is in a package also containing other files that I don't need. < 1310201493 767482 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of techniques used for copy protection, anti-debugging ,etc, I can try to make a hardware design that avoids these things? < 1310202753 719914 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310204724 91021 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1310205607 434901 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-228-76.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1310205614 876027 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@d83-183-228-76.cust.tele2.se QUIT :Changing host < 1310205615 38281 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1310205870 201589 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-148.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310206605 252765 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1310208046 750455 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1310208122 855536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310208298 737832 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You forgot. I also forgot. < 1310210262 17412 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1310210911 515900 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310211012 857791 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1310212894 942107 :CakeProphet!~adam@h3.26.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310212895 239517 :CakeProphet!~adam@h3.26.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1310212895 402014 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1310214248 41357 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1310214404 565632 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do not have permission to use "'" in this comment, unless you have used "'" within yrs ago (and not yrs ago) or have Miscellaneous Preferences enabled because . < 1310214650 227125 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1310215018 333634 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that song. < 1310216880 960884 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1310217015 426601 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-148.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310220718 370577 :foocraft!~ewanas@78.101.89.139 QUIT :Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish! < 1310220771 403623 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So short? And don't eat all the fish! < 1310220853 428814 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is better to drink all the fish? < 1310222760 80562 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1310222868 81189 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@user-12hcrs5.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1310222868 535722 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@user-12hcrs5.cable.mindspring.com QUIT :Changing host < 1310222868 697684 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1310223034 634902 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310223037 140490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-213-203.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1310223526 336095 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310224615 502611 :foocraft!~ewanas@78.101.89.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310225187 79533 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310227886 848330 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which game did you play tomorrow? < 1310228400 23766 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Plain TeX, but is there such things as VeryPlain TeX? < 1310228856 303493 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-62.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1310229187 232492 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1310229272 185159 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't matter then. Plain TeX is good enough for most things, other things can use primitive TeX writing a specific format for what is being done. < 1310229358 850023 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking that < 1310229595 153634 :Madk!~IceChat77@c-71-63-79-112.hsd1.va.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310229616 971903 :Madk!~IceChat77@c-71-63-79-112.hsd1.va.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1310229641 815198 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently writing a DVI optimizer program which tries to make the DVI output from TeX (or any other program that can produce DVI output files) into smaller file by changing some things as long as the output on paper is still the same. < 1310229735 719094 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-62.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1310229864 124660 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am currently trying to characterize the cellular automata generated by idempotent ones, or rather prove my conjecture; i thought i proved it already but that was bullcrap, but now i have it except for a particular CA with certain properties i need to construct < 1310229909 669467 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What conjecture? < 1310229938 325623 :Madk!~IceChat77@c-71-63-79-112.hsd1.va.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently working on an evolutionary algorithm to generate a Hello, world! program in my esolang Surface < 1310229956 544085 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :G is a product of idempotents <==> (for all n: G(U_n) = U_n ==> G|U_n = id|U_n) < 1310229959 292417 :Madk!~IceChat77@c-71-63-79-112.hsd1.va.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only reason I made surface was so that I could make a cool evolutionary algorithm < 1310229964 4282 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where U_n is the set of points with least period n < 1310229987 905276 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :idempotent CA = everything becomes still life after one generation, that is, G^2 = G < 1310230000 579569 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise standard notation but ask if unclear < 1310230055 885437 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for 1d ca) < 1310230097 851925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which are functions from S^Z to S^Z defined by a local rule, where S is a finite set of states and Z are the integers) < 1310230289 886794 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is easy to see "==>" but for "<==" i need a family of CA that for arbirarily large k and some suitable m, put a marker (a 1) every k to k+m steps, and 0's everywhere else, unless there is a sequence of n (which is arbitarily large) cells where there is a smaller period than k in which case the CA just writes 0's under it < 1310230308 530119 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think should exist < 1310230316 514372 :Madk!~IceChat77@c-71-63-79-112.hsd1.va.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Some folks are wise, and some otherwise. < 1310230397 980654 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i could do that, i could do standard permutation stuff whereever there's a period for some time in the point, and everywhere else, just use an "aperiodic" marker that doesn't appear in the image of G to route the contents of the point through a subshift of finite type which cannot be confused with the image < 1310230417 645844 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOUND GOOD? < 1310230479 503093 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know enough about this kind of theory to understand it enough to know if you are correct or if it sound good or not. < 1310230509 608442 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure i was jk < 1310230563 147456 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the idea should work but i was jk with the sound good htings < 1310230564 238056 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*things < 1310230565 443074 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*thing < 1310230626 461782 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you good at pokemon card while blindfolded? < 1310230631 130448 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1310230642 238648 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm okay at symbolic dynamics while blindfolded < 1310230657 999984 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's essentially the same thing < 1310230714 119864 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you good at symbolic dynamics while you are on the sun getting burned and hiding from me (or from yourself)? < 1310230716 373154 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you play pokemon card while blindfolded < 1310230736 175029 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i think i would be dead rather fast < 1310230753 376446 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. It would be difficult to play pokemon card while blindfolded because you cannot read it < 1310230762 293913 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1310230795 291364 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe it is still possible to understand head/tails if you can touch it and know the difference of engraving of head/tails. < 1310230979 873153 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play Pokemon without knowing what the opponent has. < 1310230980 35506 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even harder~ < 1310231046 287017 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that would be difficult. But usually you do not know what cards they have in their hand, but you can still see the cards in play. Unless, you can deduce the cards in hand. < 1310231071 707568 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if you have a blind game you cannot see cards in play, you have to listen to announcements of attacks and stuff like that, to figure out....... < 1310231076 200692 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1310231078 735113 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be intersting. < 1310231091 64087 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic, and you can only see the other player's stuff if they're directly using it on you. < 1310231125 147076 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, you only know how many cards they have in play. < 1310231145 975328 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, maybe also whether or not it is tapped. < 1310231152 53544 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :For sanity's sake, you'd have to be able to see what you can target with certain spells. < 1310231169 262180 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, I'm sure you'll need a rule checking simulator to do that... < 1310231172 54799 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" But maybe it is still possible to understand head/tails if you can touch it and know the difference of engraving of head/tails." <<< err it's kind of trivial < 1310231227 735164 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have it like Kriegspiel variant of chess, where if you do a wrong move you get to try again until it is correct (opponent knows how many times you tried). So, if you target something, it is told whether or not is a valid target, and then you must try a target and if it is wrong, you can try to target a different card. < 1310231234 305820 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even tell bills from each other pretty easily by their size < 1310231273 588004 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least usually guess them correctly, i'm not sure i could actually say for sure, since all perception tends to be relative < 1310231330 797397 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :touching is slightly easier since you have your own body to compare with < 1310231343 495575 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, case where you can't target anything? < 1310231391 901329 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Then the referee tells you that you can't. In Kriegspiel variant of chess, you can ask whether or not there is any way for one of your pawns to capture. Similar thing can be done this way, with Magic: the Gathering cards. < 1310232990 491738 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is something that i want to reveal to you that might interest you .Because of that, i want to know if you are the original owner of this email address. I have a very good information which i want to relate to you. < 1310232990 690541 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not comfortable of writing the information here as i do not want it to go to a wrong person. Please reply back and tell me if you are the real owner of this email address." < 1310233037 792438 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well are you < 1310233039 828986 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1310233043 603838 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it?!? < 1310233055 388371 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I am the fake owner of the email address. < 1310233159 692642 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey has anyone here worked with gtk2hs? < 1310233229 390301 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is gtk2hs? < 1310233248 2428 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :try guessing from the name < 1310233281 668987 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that difficult < 1310233324 141731 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants poppy seed bagels
< 1310233347 722402 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bery obviously it's a port of zork 3 to fortran, compiled to work on the ipad. duh < 1310233347 884887 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i hope that's bery obvious >_< < 1310233372 625660 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does bery mean < 1310233381 453848 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it bery obvious? < 1310233418 571184 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters something about bet and vet
< 1310233435 402016 :Nisstyre!~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1310233479 37441 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bet_(letter)#Bet_without_the_dagesh_.28Vet.29 < 1310233845 911447 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, assume you cast Lightning Bolt. < 1310233849 438958 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no valid targets. < 1310233853 846344 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get to take it back, or does it fizzle. < 1310233874 733018 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: You take it back, I would say. (This is similar to Kriegspiel chess) < 1310234062 908457 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even on the first google page for "picture languages" :'( < 1310234086 87014 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is gtk2hs? <-- a tool for working with gtk from haskell iirc. < 1310234088 81827 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha loser. < 1310234093 258318 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points and laughs
< 1310234293 530549 :aloril!~aloril@84.249.126.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1310234351 100530 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I WILL GET THERE < 1310234364 138853 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat all the other 5 picture language researchers out there < 1310234618 364861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if it's worth it to get a PRS-950
< 1310234638 228362 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you *not* get a PRS-950? < 1310234645 304771 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit big.. < 1310234655 551735 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hasn't stopped anyone before.. < 1310234725 520045 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, haskell platform is sort of slow to compile < 1310235097 333280 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1310235498 55501 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_, only on your system I bet :P < 1310235511 304236 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1310235677 740596 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1310235678 364402 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1310235690 869289 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rescued 3 RTL8139D's from trashed school PCs a few months ago < 1310235692 712544 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one of them < 1310235694 408623 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can i do with it < 1310235754 551513 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you can speak ethernet, that's awesome! < 1310235783 278683 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, new gigabit-ethernet NICs cost multiple euros, maybe up to ten. < 1310235809 939196 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't the 8139 one of the... more popular ones among hobbyist OS makers < 1310235817 811120 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that lets me test lots of them on actual hardware < 1310235824 288400 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :read: trashing my PC with buggy code < 1310235852 840935 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's popular => widely supported, yes. < 1310235966 689550 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why i rescued them < 1310236329 586868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1310236485 870377 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are not only rock hard, but you are also confused! And cursed! And double cursed! < 1310236493 264641 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1310236502 268212 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally rock hard < 1310236556 802882 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan, my proof for the idempotency thing didn't work but i have a new one and this time i'm reeeeeally confident about it ;P < 1310236610 853039 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1310236750 277917 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-15-50.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310236911 165911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible" < 1310236912 430244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*! < 1310237027 476231 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if "it's funny because it's true" was invented by a set theorist after a night of mathing up some serious formulations < 1310237032 578911 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or his drinking buddies < 1310237827 818539 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm betting ... no. < 1310237964 581430 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what exactly have you informaticians come up with that's cool < 1310237968 788072 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1310238085 392903 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even information, that was shannon's idea! < 1310238172 604926 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact knowing is one of the few things that was not invented before it was formalized by a mathematician < 1310238217 285550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1310238242 237540 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit oerjan was around at that time, my lie is ruined < 1310238260 433069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was so close :\ < 1310238477 267677 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at Wikipedia
< 1310238482 956910 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information is energy? < 1310238485 938976 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1310238499 347485 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :who isn't < 1310238516 950147 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, information is interchangable < 1310238574 553476 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1310238582 931052 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information#As_a_property_in_physics < 1310238588 258727 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've known one thing, you've known them all < 1310238589 381662 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, interchangable with energy < 1310238894 751504 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a bit of a letdown < 1310239229 44761 :asiekierka!~kouta@078088172155.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310239323 127481 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now that we can make nanometer size vacuum tube arrays, do you think vacuum tubes would be a better basic element for computers, than transistors? < 1310239538 555426 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: What's their clock and how quickly do they break? < 1310239643 759999 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are either field emission or photonic emission devices < 1310239655 301282 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the clock is basically limited by propagation time through the grids < 1310239680 73002 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pretty much nothing < 1310239740 263378 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there doesn't seem to be a limit similar to that of transistors where they have a current flowing through them that has a finite gradient < 1310239762 317486 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :vacuum tubes are constantly in emission, so they always have current flowing, except that sometimes the current goes to the grid and sometimes to the plate < 1310239785 968785 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so clock rates could be higher < 1310239811 239682 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1310239811 401786 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just a layman < 1310239827 118810 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the highest frequencies in microwave transmission are amplified by vacuum tubes, not by semiconductors < 1310239843 848067 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read up on klystrons and tuned cavities for example) < 1310239888 654374 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nanoscale tubes in question are still usual transconductance devices, just like old-day triodes and pentodes < 1310239893 849826 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still have linear and cutoff mode < 1310239904 904319 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: Eh, the big things with vacuum tubes are just their size, their power draw, and their tendency to break. < 1310239923 192860 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, but now they can be built in nanometer sized clusters < 1310239935 267488 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's no problem anymore, right? < 1310239943 257118 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which quite *possibly* helps. < 1310239957 77338 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd think so < 1310239965 270849 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe there's something else going on. *shrug* < 1310239974 587202 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know < 1310239981 446449 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just hoping for someone to jump up and say < 1310240023 527754 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oh, if vacuum tubes were the same size as transistors, a current-day cpu could have 1/200th of the amount of tubes that it has transistors" < 1310240066 789528 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that correct? < 1310240080 958952 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what would speed be? < 1310240150 960535 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1310240151 715718 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What printer resolutions are commonly used other than 300 DPI and 600 DPI? Is 1156.32 DPI ever used? < 1310240160 323400 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn37-68.vpn.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1310240169 194801 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1200 is used < 1310240174 969569 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is 2400 even < 1310240278 878756 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did some calculation to come up with the number 1156.32 that it might come a power of two fraction of points, if I have done the calculations correctly. < 1310240295 133332 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how well it actually would work in practice, though. Maybe it is no good. < 1310240315 789638 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which places is 2400 DPI used? Which printers? Which .....? < 1310240320 311891 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ans 54 LPI. (A 9-pin dot matrix printer in 6 lines/inch mode; though then the points aren't equidistant.) < 1310240397 331771 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "54 LPI" mean? And why aren't the points equidistant? < 1310240426 533509 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is google? < 1310240451 60440 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the large-number DPI values shown by printer drivers are marketing hype; e.g. cheap laser printers that pretend to do 1200 DPI. Higher-end ones more likely may do them for reals. < 1310240452 581977 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: What is Jeopardy!? < 1310240471 116232 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How do they just pretend to do 1200 DPI? < 1310240616 632446 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've forgotten the name so I can't google, but it was called "something 1200", and it wasn't quite really a 1200-actual-dots mode. < 1310240652 2081 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what is it if it is not quite really a 1200-actual-dots mode? < 1310240695 290729 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 54 lines-per-inch doesn't have equidistant point (on my printer anyway) because there are then gaps between the lines. I think in the 8 lines/inch mode can do a reasonable 100x72 DPI mode though (horizontal x vertical). < 1310240949 564925 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seem to be able to google the details now. In any case you couldn't print an arbitrary black-and-white bitmap at 1200 dpi with it. Maybe it was something like controlling the dot positions at a 1200 dpi resolution, but having the minimum size for a dot rather larger, or something. < 1310241049 757186 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then should you compile the fonts for a lower resolutions for calculate position on pages of each letters by 1200 DPI? Would you do something like that? < 1310241123 622245 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of feel that if you say a printer does "x DPI", it should be good enough so that you could print an arbitrary bw bitmap, and then with enough magnification see the individual pixels. < 1310241163 756757 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it should say that! But in this case it doesn't it should use a different kind of notation or something indication of these kind of things. < 1310241296 615340 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall we tested the theory by printing some text with a 4x6 bitmap font at 300 and 600 dpi on a couple of printers, and then checking them for readability using a magnifying glass, and even though all the printers said they do 600 dpi quite many were just unreadable smudges. < 1310241344 584031 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course that could've been some sort of scaling problem, or that they do proper 600 dpi only on better paper.) < 1310241450 487880 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those inkjet "photo printers" advertise up to 4800 DPI. Not sure how close to reality that is. < 1310241590 760339 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize that the raster a printer uses isn't a square raster, though? < 1310241734 390471 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4f592.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310241899 591289 :foocraft!~ewanas@78.101.89.139 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1310241960 914859 :foocraft!~ewanas@78.101.185.17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310242656 821284 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1310243095 61392 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-22-176-245.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :myndzi < 1310243493 422132 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some guy who runs an acehack server thanked me for that underwater candelabrum patch < 1310243503 550645 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which was rolled into AceHack < 1310243519 912874 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, oops < 1310243606 485294 :Nisstyre!~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1310244164 154824 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the chance of hitting yourself with the DIGGER card is 2/3 did I calculate it correctly? < 1310245149 574603 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-22-176-245.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310245257 615267 :myndzi!myndzi@c-24-22-176-245.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1310245259 950390 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-22-176-245.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :myndzi < 1310245794 531291 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1310245880 510202 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1310246006 657500 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1310246713 986220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1310247759 470027 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1310247786 177951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1310247967 532041 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn37-68.vpn.utu.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1310248045 702358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Client Quit < 1310248163 751483 :foocraft!~ewanas@78.101.185.17 QUIT :Quit: if you're going....to san. fran. cisco!!! < 1310249489 705718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1310249795 322239 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay elly < 1310249837 919170 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it flapping < 1310249857 668242 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up some ideas of pokemon card, including one card: Toss the coin. Next time either player would toss a coin, instead use the result of this coin. < 1310249894 480700 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the basic concept < 1310249907 94470 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310249925 496044 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-170-23.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1310249931 216454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not distribute any links to this page! http://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php/Secret:Nuke_Recipe < 1310249938 236467 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is getting the word out about not distributing any links to that page
< 1310249942 780839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1310249953 650839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1310249955 55265 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hay you!! Does a plain URL count if not formatted as a hyperlink? < 1310249959 539744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1310249961 993136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make any. < 1310249983 792403 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then please stop. < 1310249995 219150 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this nonsense < 1310250001 403288 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuke?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? < 1310250037 292599 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have achieved GENGAR COIN. < 1310250056 179639 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this not working? http://pastebin.com/1jy3LEyy < 1310250059 686652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I am telling YOU to stop. < 1310250061 272278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE must stop. < 1310250063 904336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spread the word. < 1310250079 808809 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I am telling YOU to stop too. Including you. < 1310250092 360550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO < 1310250099 910315 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then don't tell me either. < 1310250113 332768 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1310250182 425616 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater_: [Joke] Obviously you misspelled "World". [Joke] < 1310250183 379906 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1310250268 651051 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229129148.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Laugh at [Joke]] < 1310250289 373671 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Joke] < 1310250298 536632 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Laugh at [Joke]]]]]]]]]] < 1310250304 633951 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[No] < 1310250339 751302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1310250515 436613 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1310250521 519837 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1310250566 614822 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :low < 1310250609 49930 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi sgeo < 1310250619 175941 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did the h2o2 work out < 1310250873 613085 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still can barely hear in my left ear < 1310250880 73775 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not dead or anything. < 1310251026 9088 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-15-50.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1310251026 882675 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing you are not dead because if you are dead then it is difficult to type on the computer. < 1310251069 317019 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is difficult to type message about you are not dead or anything. < 1310251074 121265 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 is truly a sage. < 1310251083 204147 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::---------D < 1310251090 83314 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor how u doing < 1310251105 587184 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he meant to say "deaf" < 1310251106 290771 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I'm cookin' a corned beef brisket. < 1310251108 507368 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore awesome. < 1310251118 626653 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :deafness has no reason to impair typing skill < 1310251126 284064 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not in the way death does < 1310251144 941331 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It is true maybe they can tell you what they meant. < 1310251145 103453 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow can i taste < 1310251154 134002 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :send me some via mail k? :-) < 1310251175 431129 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, that should be super < 1310251188 549716 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have my address right? < 1310251188 712097 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters about broken toilets
< 1310251395 204050 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#toilet is useless < 1310251429 98005 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is #toilet even a thing < 1310251449 160595 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for help with toilets < 1310251477 677181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GSD doesn't only detect singletons; it detects four different types of global state, including singletons, hingletons, mingletons and fingletons" < 1310251495 861002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets < 1310251499 382913 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :491) * Sgeo mutters about broken toilets #toilet is useless is #toilet even a thing I'm looking for help with toilets < 1310251563 936470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably spin an article out of this. < 1310251577 12488 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MODERN YOUTH UNABLE TO FIX TOILET WITHOUT RESORTING TO INTERNET < 1310251616 280412 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO, there's far simpler that I've resorted to the Internet for < 1310251652 207365 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to imagine what sgeo resorted to the internet for < 1310251676 242332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :search log: how do i drink a glass of water < 1310251685 630038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :search log: i'm told it involves pouring but it just spills everywhere?? < 1310251717 237853 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be able to help with the toilet, you need to answer questions, such as, the model number, date of purchase, color, size, number of lids, number of rocks in it, how loud it is, whether or not it has a camera, whether there is monster living underneath, whether the room it is in has a bathtub or not, number of cracks in it, number of times it has been repaired previously, what is your shoe size, etc. < 1310251733 270863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: does your toilet have a camera < 1310251748 544100 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't _think_ so < 1310251891 931181 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that < 1310251910 622360 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, my toilet looks different < 1310251917 901908 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :special toilet? < 1310251918 64282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that Or, at least, my toilet looks different < 1310251919 262943 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :492) Dear eHow: Please don't assume that my toilet works like that Or, at least, my toilet looks different < 1310251927 626982 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does your toilet look like < 1310251935 935748 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it look like upsidedown? < 1310251953 835533 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less like http://www.ehow.com/video_117350_stop-toilet-running.html and more like http://pad3.whstatic.com/images/thumb/1/11/Toilet-tank-contents.JPG/180px-Toilet-tank-contents.JPG < 1310252022 846676 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm just too weak to pinch the metal thing that stuff is telling me to pinch. < 1310252134 666188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you actually doing btw < 1310252193 129740 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to defecate, presumably? < 1310252198 58403 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to lower the fill level, I think < 1310252206 422062 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I am capable of flushing < 1310252221 656988 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, hmm, that is weird as a reply, I think < 1310252227 578742 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just wants to impress ladies with his toilet fixing skills and know-how < 1310252250 694103 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically: Toilet keeps running if I leave the valve on < 1310252264 931781 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wastes water < 1310252266 825147 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good < 1310252268 601502 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1310252278 121163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warren Hancock - Though we're less haunting and really just witty and snide. < 1310252285 412702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :XKCDEMONS sure are witty < 1310252327 134257 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this? < 1310252358 207476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo google+ < 1310252367 549025 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@user-12hcrs5.cable.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1310252368 59572 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@user-12hcrs5.cable.mindspring.com QUIT :Changing host < 1310252368 221910 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1310252369 225566 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did you know there is a blog called "What xkcd means" < 1310252382 555981 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4d0b7c47.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1310252383 675459 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is devoted entirely to explaining the meaning of each xkcd comic. < 1310252402 806889 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a blog called "What 'What xkcd means' means"? < 1310252421 696308 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4f592.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1310252436 917989 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I know of. That kind of meta-shenanigans is probably only reserved for the asshats at xkcdsucks < 1310252691 603951 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1310252755 556720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1310252771 279238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they asshats apart from not liking something you like < 1310252774 609244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're mostly kind of stupid < 1310252779 365050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the same thing though < 1310253029 159360 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any things about GameBoy Printer? < 1310253101 497127 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can guess that it's a printer that connects to a GameBoy. < 1310253130 563045 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. I have emulator that can emulate the GameBoy Printer although the output is mixed up except for the "GB Printer Test Demo" program. < 1310253179 149956 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" he just wants to impress ladies with his toilet fixing skills and know-how" <<< if there's anything the hippos have taught us it's that ladies are way more impressed if you DON'T flush. < 1310253430 963383 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you get your wallpaper for free that way < 1310253747 709384 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, for bootstrapping, I'm going to write off GCC newer than 4.2.x. < 1310253832 922061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? that it can't be compiled on lower level GCCs? < 1310253854 177955 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC newer than that has *dependencies*. < 1310253865 823103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn37-79.vpn.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1310253867 231872 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond a vaguely functioning C compiler, that is. < 1310253925 739970 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose I had a platform that had no C compiler whatsoever, and I wanted to get GCC on it < 1310253937 450290 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern GCC. < 1310253972 664241 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far back in gcc's past would I have to go to get something compilable by a different C compiler, and then in that compiler's history, etc., to get something not in C? < 1310253977 578174 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-429.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1310254014 894074 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe first thing to do, write a very simple C compiler with machine codes, one that doesn't do much. And then compile some simple C compiler in C using not much. And then try again. And then it work properly next time. < 1310254036 240580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1310254054 408974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: start with building a cross-compiler on a system where gcc already works < 1310254194 612243 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is one way it can work. < 1310255031 225320 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1310255125 920333 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1310255286 582997 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle, it should be possible to make a complete self-building system out of gcc, binutils, busybox, GNU make, and Perl. (presuming you want to compile Linux) < 1310255305 120600 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and a libc, of course. < 1310255491 977115 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, Debian has broken things hard fucking core. < 1310255522 812057 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is currently impossible to build a GCC newer than 3.x against the libc. < 1310255566 249786 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck it, I can't stick with Debian. I just can't. < 1310255656 336019 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :use Ubuntu.. that's totally a step in the right direction. < 1310255669 343276 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, fuck no. < 1310255679 945071 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehehehe < 1310255695 854474 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slackware, TBH, is tempting. < 1310255731 479363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :slackware, enjoy that < 1310255735 636319 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Gldt.svg < 1310255738 123446 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could always go back to Gentoo... < 1310255741 122253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : In practice, Debian has broken things hard fucking core. < 1310255741 301068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is currently impossible to build a GCC newer than 3.x against the libc. < 1310255741 651552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1310255746 227191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does this even mean < 1310255747 785489 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a forrest. Move upstream or downstream, or jump trees! < 1310255762 655368 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :endless hours of downloading and installing and setup. What could be more fun? < 1310255763 997971 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Debian no longer puts crt*.o in /usr/lib/. < 1310255769 604446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so what < 1310255788 773190 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which means you literally cannot get a functioning compiler without patching it the same way Debian did. < 1310255794 160737 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still wants to set up LFS at some point
< 1310255802 410743 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-44c2d23d.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure what broke my last attempt exactly < 1310255803 35478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noes!! they changed the build of a shitty piece of gnu software!!! < 1310255805 151250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM LEAVING FOREVER < 1310255822 293523 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, that's hardcoded in just about every C compiler. < 1310255850 189973 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah, right -- and you are always in favour of keeping backwards compatibility rather than pure goodness, right? < 1310255854 44365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why you hate @, isn't it? < 1310255865 362169 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, I'm in favor of being able to have _start from the libc. < 1310255897 37682 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: switch to redhat! < 1310255902 375332 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Fuck no. < 1310255921 831946 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then you have run out of options. Those are the only distros. < 1310255929 347358 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeBSD? < 1310255953 524777 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-156-129.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less broken, at least.