< 1311897863 880272 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1311897959 525366 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1311899521 367926 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1311903467 601330 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1311903508 630053 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, sure < 1311903553 217089 :itidus21!~itidus20@c210-49-78-148.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1311903721 616390 :itidus20!~itidus20@c210-49-78-148.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1311903791 730206 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, ? < 1311903822 517165 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: someone else already did < 1311903825 608679 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks though < 1311903835 849159 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1311904015 772522 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : total used free shared buffers cached < 1311904015 825358 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mem: 16037 7654 8383 0 353 5648 < 1311904015 825576 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :-/+ buffers/cache: 1652 14385 < 1311904015 825688 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swap: 4094 6 4088 < 1311904022 411321 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck... < 1311904026 504535 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I be using swap!? < 1311904033 717127 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean. come ON < 1311904056 886862 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-154-115.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel doesn't unswap pages except on demand. < 1311904067 522094 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-154-115.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is generally a pessimisation. < 1311904084 311156 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, well no issue here, I'm just confused that I started using swap at all < 1311904089 742430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been doing anything heavy < 1311904120 188002 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-154-115.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. 16 gigs? Yeah, it'd be pretty hard to make that swap. < 1311904134 55169 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, indeed < 1311904139 509563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ swapon -s < 1311904139 582687 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filename Type Size Used Priority < 1311904139 634732 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sda3 partition 2096476 3096 1 < 1311904139 634940 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/sdb3 partition 2096476 3096 1 < 1311904140 554081 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh < 1311904143 233188 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen < 1311904611 930411 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311904762 540856 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1311904908 991332 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229162034.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311905080 524150 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo! < 1311905080 613355 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1311905151 492282 :CakeProphet!~adam@h249.29.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905151 563795 :CakeProphet!~adam@h249.29.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1311905151 616262 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905233 350261 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : WHAT COULD POSSIBLY. BUT _POSSIBLY_. GO WRONG??????? < 1311905235 771975 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1311905313 883852 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905483 857177 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905693 246696 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : The person who formulated the Sanskrit language < 1311905738 203209 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially inventing something like BNF millennia before bachus-naur were born, afaiu < 1311905766 8196 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, iirc, with a smattering of Perligata, except sanskrit rather than latin. < 1311905902 358632 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905917 685011 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311905940 539372 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311905986 869235 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1311906000 52580 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : CakeProphet: you're the only person who consistently complains about other people being rude to you, so either there's institutionalised oppression or you're just misreading tones < 1311906025 198604 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311906027 463515 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (jerk) < 1311906125 632993 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+his < 1311906449 745061 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311906629 405639 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : But barely any esoteric markup or query languages < 1311906646 243074 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311906647 26650 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :would zzo's texnicard count? < 1311906649 706036 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1311906657 712988 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1311906663 355365 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1311906672 655976 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing impossible to read code into a commercial lib :o < 1311906689 926861 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how job securing < 1311906692 532247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, suggestion intercal/sql hybrid. Both are traditionally upper case < 1311906743 425493 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FROM .1 <- SELECT PLEASE (222) NEXT. < 1311906747 477519 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1311906756 930611 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, joins could be done with COME FROM < 1311906769 720110 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEHOW < 1311906794 745896 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if INTERCAL has a suitable set of instructions for monadic use. < 1311906838 525375 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: basically I'm writing Arm SIMD code < 1311906846 357933 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2~4 times faster than C++ < 1311906859 484846 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1311906880 428200 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But because math operations are pipelined you have to scramble your code to make it go faster < 1311907029 588871 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble your code < 1311907029 677864 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yu oedcro < 1311907045 379412 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job fungot < 1311907046 71222 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: whenever the quota for this referendum must list both the current players. if the < 1311907053 711433 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the what < 1311907055 689438 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get 2 operations per cycle! < 1311907069 98020 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one of them has to be math and one of them has to be load/store < 1311907095 427653 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you start a multiply the result isn't available until 5 or 6 cycles later < 1311907102 864542 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you read it before that it stalls < 1311907121 123586 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the kind of thing a good compiler _should_ be able to do by itself, right? < 1311907137 522420 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1311907166 245751 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are intrinsincs for C++, maybe the compiler produces good code with those < 1311907176 720732 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also dunno if compilers do pipelining < 1311907906 492774 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311908423 991309 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311908425 99693 :jcp|1!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311908462 794479 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1311908547 460545 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311908554 29837 :jcp|other!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311908740 923244 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311908820 132446 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311908837 463487 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1311908964 333621 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311909444 119 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pratchett without footnotes = fail < 1311910151 962110 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1311910424 814251 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311910435 151441 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1311910915 680776 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311911192 713841 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311911460 987796 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1311911495 583358 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1311911561 583451 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311911815 687156 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311911905 29057 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311912106 835699 :augur!~augur@216-164-57-20.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1311912237 623682 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311912882 740419 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311913307 319673 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311913437 465334 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311913575 832856 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1311913846 946361 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311913983 146131 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311914420 63880 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311914478 929152 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1311914873 27321 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311914966 289972 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311915235 788230 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311915406 468437 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311915541 590012 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311915907 143658 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311916063 207918 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311916409 410134 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311916555 698718 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311916637 652417 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:08:35 But they always change it to the Magic the Gathering/Brainfuck idea. < 1311916640 818794 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:08:46 Seems more like a persistent person. < 1311916653 480148 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's simply changing it to the very oldest version of the page. < 1311916682 820885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this channel so sleepy of late < 1311916692 869721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :only a few hours activity each day < 1311916700 907475 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: vacation time? < 1311916710 125814 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1311916716 627644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats where ive been < 1311916751 148531 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps there's some kind of link which causes that oldest version to be saved, which a spambot has picked up. < 1311916777 662701 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it has a very broken way of following links. hm. < 1311916829 354794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well can you lock it to reversion? < 1311916912 158604 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311916941 558569 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not an admin. < 1311916955 917239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1311917066 359928 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311917457 163398 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311917552 623551 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311917564 670643 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or otherwise i'd have banned Nthern for not responding to my messages. Grmle. < 1311917572 480791 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Grmble. < 1311917620 235102 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :icwutudidthar < 1311917645 567819 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :usure? < 1311917818 23424 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1311917958 143186 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311918087 75817 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311918285 144164 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1311918455 934216 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311918592 92564 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311919070 785482 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311919198 426279 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311919569 953818 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311919692 159650 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311920186 172370 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311920342 312199 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311920686 848977 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311920812 901270 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311921186 359093 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311921327 529133 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311921684 909996 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311921822 994031 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311921910 697454 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311922200 966543 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311922332 182153 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311922845 561186 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311922970 657185 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311923348 311760 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311923500 474830 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311923848 361231 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311923982 474528 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311924057 496987 :Taneb!540d59f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.89.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311924351 444896 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anybody cared to make a category for languages where the computation always terminates? They form quite an important subclass of languages. < 1311924351 516559 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311924428 199277 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this class of languages has seen a lot of research, too, such as Curry's ?I calculus ('53). < 1311924428 550969 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311924475 852287 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1311924484 228829 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311924613 313660 :Taneb!540d59f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.89.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Taneb test < 1311924613 405171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1311924861 956811 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311924997 54630 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311925168 536431 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, for instance, almost all "regular" mathematical functions are computable by languages that only have loops that always terminate. Ackermann's function is not one of them. :) < 1311925228 905132 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311925232 284300 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I misremembered ?I's computational class - but what about primitive recursive functions? < 1311925361 622450 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311925368 777239 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Excess Flood < 1311925382 423270 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages where computation always terminates fall into one of a number of classes < 1311925397 639148 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Category:Computational_class < 1311925431 461398 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, nevermind. < 1311925511 754974 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311925527 525276 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311925527 579271 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Excess Flood < 1311925543 20970 :itidus21!~itidus20@c210-49-78-148.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au NICK :itidus20 < 1311926014 440796 :Taneb!540d59f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.89.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need a name for my esoteric markup langauge < 1311926040 844883 :Taneb!540d59f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.89.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boxen? < 1311926052 299355 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311926192 405757 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311926298 755320 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes, the class of always-terminating languages is missing from there < 1311926338 41217 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, while important theoretically, the Chomsky hierarchy of languages is by no means the only, or even the most important, classification criterion. < 1311926437 271488 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311926552 80836 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311926688 212847 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311927166 90766 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311927304 215353 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311927391 462054 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1311927410 348615 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1311927412 529886 :Taneb!540d59f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.13.89.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1311927786 612528 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311927926 781719 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311927987 815240 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1311928394 319855 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311928523 333044 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:#esoteric < 1311932150 475259 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311932515 319195 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311932662 593193 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311933016 334758 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311933143 482426 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311933516 50509 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311933630 503561 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311934014 554560 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1311934016 977622 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311934039 588683 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :another ddr video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yueZ1Dsm9JI \o/ < 1311934158 364101 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311934176 414649 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:madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311945571 747335 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311946079 537607 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311946210 709003 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311946580 690015 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311946716 821193 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311947080 897861 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311947212 120527 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311947686 948268 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311947811 876411 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311947812 92827 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311947816 70863 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1311948179 407486 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1311948295 393543 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311948309 471627 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an unimplemented esolang deserving implemenation < 1311948311 750780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1311948424 612224 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311948542 919734 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just do Category:Unimplemented in alphabetical order. < 1311948551 166044 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the common good. < 1311948667 704725 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea! < 1311948680 732782 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x29c! < 1311948916 619309 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311949278 393497 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1311949435 575759 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311949731 973353 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1311949831 687635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311949835 548224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERNET < 1311949835 601367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 7 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1311949864 658974 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311949870 175246 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1311949938 915654 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1311949939 589887 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311950252 148794 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-192-117.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT : < 1311950286 994341 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311950371 752373 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311950578 939419 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311950848 351559 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1311950964 453301 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311951117 975408 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311951597 336645 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311951692 140879 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311951880 402955 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311951951 978306 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311951982 964201 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1311952213 862185 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311952214 556056 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311952276 182745 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311952339 286618 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311952492 407908 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EDIT: Thanks to everyone who wrote with an explanation, especially the electronics engineers. I now have about 11 different plausible explanations for this behaviour. Only 3 of which involve actual time warps. :-) < 1311952496 481941 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1311952554 658562 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on yesterday's iwc annotation) < 1311952577 80300 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh DMM < 1311952589 820985 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's annotation is pretty funny < 1311952641 265908 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it may be assumed that hordes are attracted to hoards. < 1311952657 778427 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is little data on the reverse < 1311952675 970450 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1311952698 950058 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm sure genghis khan got plenty of tribute < 1311952724 580554 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, that < 1311952779 769714 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311952793 346078 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311952906 89020 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, that edit above could have fit just as well in CoAP. where it seems to me DMM is making a much larger fraction of the posts than he used to... < 1311952953 206052 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put events from my life into CoAP, what's saying DMM doesn't? < 1311952959 184733 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1311952973 466649 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's CoAP is a DMM work! < 1311953039 754125 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...let's hope it's not based on a real life event. < 1311953082 351310 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, DMM and the comic irregulars do a lot at work that isn't necassarily work < 1311953090 275395 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as writing Darths and Droids < 1311953113 81753 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but at least they _claim_ to do it during lunch hour < 1311953145 649951 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And making the CiSRA puzzles < 1311953154 502128 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is backed by Canon, so it may be work < 1311953159 982779 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but that might be something ... right < 1311953218 595613 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have this image of DMM being the world's best time planner. < 1311953250 317337 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is a time ninja < 1311953273 425782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CoAP? < 1311953280 89655 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments on a postcard < 1311953281 554651 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comments on a Postcard < 1311953285 717585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that one. < 1311953294 19305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*CoaP in that case, but whatever. < 1311953317 289983 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is busted
< 1311953320 368109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : He is a time ninja < 1311953328 248800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the real reason his clock is running slow. < 1311953412 256340 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of someone mentioning that one of tvtropes' memes is wild mass guessing "* is a time lord". i wonder if someone put it on a DMM related page... < 1311953412 401380 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311953447 577226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I have a suspicion that it'll be part of a crackdown at some point. < 1311953458 162888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given TV Tropes' recent swerves towards awfulness. < 1311953510 525064 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google doesn't find either "DMM is a time lord" or "David Morgan-Mar is a time lord", anyway < 1311953527 106506 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know your duty. < 1311953558 627181 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team < 1311953568 35459 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new < 1311953648 923752 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a few of the answers in 1D < 1311953686 189338 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 is Iguanas in Pyjamas, 7 is Seal or no Seal, 9 is Harry Otter, 14 is Swan with the Wind < 1311953830 20606 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311953930 168356 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311953930 349161 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311954451 371051 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311954596 413077 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311954971 828896 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311955097 964966 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311955528 823281 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311955612 138122 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1311955612 724662 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311955723 718200 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311955745 327707 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311955843 735811 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311956027 897010 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311956127 210532 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311956303 141860 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311956369 486203 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1311956583 390117 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1311956596 94131 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311956696 361383 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1311956885 118746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/j297s/if_g_o_f_is_surjective_why_doesnt_g_need_to_be/ < 1311956891 349415 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make head nor tail of this question. < 1311957046 740996 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311957046 952876 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311957167 96465 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aibohphobia < 1311957172 844834 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fear of palindromes < 1311957311 730333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should have used notation more suitable for ascii < 1311957416 428313 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311957499 860542 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the title has g and f switched, anyway < 1311957518 348682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1311957534 580999 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if g o f is surjective, then g definitely is. < 1311957585 146933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the answers confuse me even more, because none of them are the obvious reply. < 1311957681 478496 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311957687 567884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311957712 148508 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's obvious from the actual question that he meant to ask about f o g, in which case g doesn't need to be surjective. < 1311957739 594703 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1311957761 961218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah, but the answers to *that* make no sensee. < 1311957764 23605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sense < 1311957836 730078 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311957948 696505 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozenzephyr's answer looks clear enough... < 1311958106 165099 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311958159 274154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. < 1311958257 771847 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311958369 951867 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311958581 727061 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1311958657 772326 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311958801 901145 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311958914 906060 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1311958936 827006 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311958953 973227 :Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory NICK :BeholdMyGlory < 1311959233 920735 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311959262 98524 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311959275 871937 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311959399 861668 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311959557 815387 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311959799 959373 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311959942 903187 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311959946 371641 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=56305.0 < 1311959952 348786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god this is amazing. < 1311959955 419061 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bay 12? < 1311959962 91753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF. < 1311959964 193327 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like Dwarf Fortress < 1311960050 861010 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1311960059 95304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1311960081 825800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress science seems to be along the lines of "how can we trick the game into letting us do X implausible thing?" < 1311960107 540091 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If real-world science was like that I would be happy. < 1311960132 140094 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If real world science was like that, everyone would be a scientist < 1311960134 106825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's engineering, not science. < 1311960231 692714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's science if you don't know what the rules are, and engineering if you do < 1311960300 904318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and this is a kind of blend of the two, I suppose. < 1311960301 778867 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311960308 349726 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Okay, class, today we'll be making a perpetual motion engine! Urist McStudent, you grab a pickaxe and dig a channel to this pattern, Solon McPupil, you start filling those buckets with water" < 1311960331 741015 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311960334 8526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They know the rules pretty well, but not the exact particulars relevant to the problem. < 1311960355 838251 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's SCIENCE is more fun to say than It's ENGINEERING < 1311960389 468705 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I base all my desicions on what is more fun to say < 1311960422 287934 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Tower-cap < 1311960435 769035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, that 'fun' in the DF sense? < 1311960450 523305 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost. < 1311960454 795995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The concept of things smaller than monarch butterflies, however, has led to enormous controversy. Although, obviously, it would be hard to see something smaller than a butterfly, it should be possible to show that it exists because, just like butterflies, it would sometimes get stuck in doors and prevent them from closing." < 1311960491 702607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For those who forgot or are scum and haven't read Boatmurdered, the fall of Boatmurdered was largely due to a butterfly jamming a crucial door.) < 1311960525 561858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read Boatmurdered, but I forgot < 1311960532 827175 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1311960538 247968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the fall of Boatmurdered was largely due to people deliberately trying to kill it, though < 1311960538 665800 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't get into Boutmurdered < 1311960555 385424 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I've just had an idea < 1311960583 616317 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us lot, doing a bloodline game! < 1311960583 889365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, ISTR that the disaster that brought it to its knees and final tantrum spiral was that the main doors weren't closed in time after the lava flood was triggered. < 1311960596 322838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, regrettably, neither me nor ais have played DF. < 1311960598 54259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of us don't play DF < 1311960610 248305 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even. Better. < 1311960615 854688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee has, but I wouldn't let Lymee near anything I wanted to survive for more than twenty seconds. < 1311960619 471441 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311960627 81395 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, can it wait until next Monday? < 1311960635 499120 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1311960655 813385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a PC, I tend to only (although not exclusively) play open-source games < 1311960655 998627 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lymee has, but I wouldn't let Lymee near anything I wanted to survive for more than twenty seconds. < 1311960658 477249 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better < 1311960661 209437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones that aren't, I've generally paid money for < 1311960671 907651 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, is that so? < 1311960681 971913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a couple came free with packets of breakfast cereal < 1311960682 265780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pay money for Dwarf Fortress if you reeeaaally want to < 1311960688 721266 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you like to see what I do if I want a fortress dead? < 1311960692 813605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee, THE PAIN OF ELLIOTT'S RUTIAN TEST SERVER STILL STABS AT MY HEART < 1311960711 254405 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE SPIDERS, OH GOD, THE SPIDERS < 1311960718 114993 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can put it on a memory stick and put it in your cereal box < 1311960769 571036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1311960778 154759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because it's happened so far, doesn't mean it'll always happen in future < 1311960843 885716 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311960983 546819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee, also, killing a fortress... isn't the hardest thing. < 1311961015 208496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Actually, a good way to make a fort invasion-proof is to make the entrance be a "magma elevator", a 1-tile shaft filled with magma, that is kept from falling all the way down by a set of pumps. Since dwarves are not subject to temperature while falling, as it was proved on the Last Stand thread, your dorfs would fall through several levels of magma unharmed, while any flying foe that attempted to do the same would be burned to a crisp < 1311961016 725556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instantly. < 1311961041 745115 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once tried to make an indoor fishing place. It worked. < 1311961047 628006 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until it didn't. < 1311961079 108324 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ended having a river flooding into my fortress < 1311961131 21497 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1311961275 836888 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311961419 21013 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311961445 270164 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311961490 339735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I tried to play DF I just ended up tripping over my own perfectionism. < 1311961638 648566 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is undecided whether to return his new Nook Touch and wait to see what the new Kindle will be like, or to get a Sony, or what
< 1311961748 842776 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you want neither of all those things < 1311961775 25749 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311961775 365295 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, the origin of suffering is desire for e-book readers. < 1311961798 904413 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311961809 715925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: can I persuade you to mindlessly boycott Sony without telling you why? < 1311961819 998173 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no. < 1311961827 674158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I was just wondering < 1311961830 994150 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might be able to, but I don't see how < 1311961838 58002 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if I knew about it, I'd stop < 1311961850 787543 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, if you don't boycott Sony, ais523 will find you and hit you. < 1311961876 735779 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, may I ask why you'd want me to boycott Sony? < 1311961886 542797 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: sure, it's IRC, you can ask anything < 1311961891 861938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't say I wanted you to boycott Sony < 1311961902 532764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said I wondered whether I could persuade you to < 1311961941 527149 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may be too easily persuadable < 1311961954 760772 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Persuaded to get a Nook :/ < 1311961995 94455 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although most of my issues are things that could in theory be fixed in updates < 1311962001 491401 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/most/all/ < 1311962088 957431 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the screaming of the damned will be greatly reduced in the next version < 1311962104 84430 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the head of hitler < 1311962115 106283 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've got a workaround for that already < 1311962152 175889 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they'll just keep the brain in a jar. although it's said someone at canon may have a patent on that. < 1311962257 39550 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a couple of ebook readers...kindle for android, something kindle-like for ipod, calibre's built-in reader... < 1311962257 365354 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311962269 918644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :these all have all the things i'm looking for in a reader < 1311962274 430343 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "free" < 1311962297 207510 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1311962299 165077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, is 'working' not another? < 1311962341 665961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i could hardly call them readers did they not display text in a readable form, could i? < 1311962420 106577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On some level, perhaps. < 1311962480 295391 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311962485 969215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they work and i did not pay for them. i am satisfied. < 1311962562 824552 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311962567 299711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :someday when i have disposable income, and e-ink is true color and fast, i'll consider getting something with that < 1311962669 827844 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311962698 633997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine an e-ink laptop that is front-lit by a single led in the keyboard base. < 1311962712 879366 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing would use so little power if done right < 1311962795 941692 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine an unlit e-ink laptop, and one of those "shake and it produces enough energy for the LED" flashlights that you hold with the other hand. That thing would be so user-friendly, it's not even a thing. < 1311962796 122879 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311962844 970104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, your average redditor wouldn't have a problem with the hand movement. < 1311962873 889344 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311962931 696458 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chirp* < 1311962995 964834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chirps in real life
< 1311963006 598711 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :charp < 1311963008 568781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually got quite good at doing chirps, and I'm not entirely sure why < 1311963011 249499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah, you are a giant insect. < 1311963019 437805 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherp < 1311963024 360546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT EXPLAINS THE BEARD < 1311963032 203721 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i thought Gregor was the giant insect < 1311963052 36823 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, antisemite. < 1311963081 957262 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, dung beetle < 1311963094 798360 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311963114 231467 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to tell the difference, i know < 1311963166 525261 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311963212 888066 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311963358 172164 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311963555 726408 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :O HI < 1311963580 988734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311963713 873118 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311963791 818540 :angstrom!~Unknown@unaffiliated/angstrom JOIN :#esoteric < 1311963792 330520 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311963804 351595 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spots someone tiny
< 1311963815 354611 :angstrom!~Unknown@unaffiliated/angstrom PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-> < 1311963961 801669 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311964077 527864 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1311964328 139060 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311964466 338879 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311964657 939822 :TeruFSX!~quassel@pool-214-156.res.carleton.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1311964829 859258 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311964876 889145 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311965101 857307 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311965470 695819 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311965606 876588 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311965696 566735 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-0-27.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311966077 160261 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311966085 598459 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311966146 596622 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311966357 357402 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311966361 908379 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311966584 871491 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311966631 998762 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1311966724 998944 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311966945 864850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still reading that DF submarine thread < 1311966960 982903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got even better at the point where someone suggested making a submarine intended for working under magma out of ice < 1311967131 890347 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311967263 931733 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311967373 802251 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1311967405 23389 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1311967666 986937 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311967793 111685 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311968041 421097 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: could a DF submarine be powered and directed? < 1311968067 337885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: at the point in the thread I've reached, they haven't got them to work at all yet < 1311968074 862037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tend to act in ways that defy physics < 1311968122 382402 :angstrom!~Unknown@unaffiliated/angstrom PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF? < 1311968142 381735 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1311968161 255950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarf fortres < 1311968163 503803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fortress < 1311968204 811743 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1311968209 887774 :angstrom!~Unknown@unaffiliated/angstrom PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. not my metier < 1311968317 301668 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311968334 818246 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1311968418 752919 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311968490 985624 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-28.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1311968836 383313 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311968961 91380 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311969007 549246 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if someone were to make a haskell based dsl for describing FPGA programs, would the clock skew through a circuit belong in the function type? < 1311969042 427755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :measuring clock skew at all is probably the wrong level of abstraction < 1311969065 567968 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it? < 1311969081 181860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it depends on the physical dimensions of the chip < 1311969100 714623 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229161172.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not wayward < 1311969197 298188 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13322E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311969501 387091 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311969647 564295 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311969962 388819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1311970120 721505 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311970261 797225 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311970619 206529 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311970769 117011 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311970925 714836 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1311971116 910423 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311971204 182552 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311971733 32134 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311971861 102153 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311971918 312570 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made many improvements to the program for typesetting Bird style Haskell programs. Currently this is still the non-prettyprinting version. (If I make prettyprinting, it will be a separate file) < 1311971967 472383 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't work if you have an outer control sequence at the beginning of a paragraph, but now it makes \bye to be not outer. < 1311972114 284443 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The updated file is: http://sprunge.us/YZfh < 1311972191 564498 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why has more than once the list of ideas being replaced by 'This is a list of ideas of programming languages and other stuff. * Magic The Gathering card deck of Brainfuck'? < 1311972214 205939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: confused spambot < 1311972233 515131 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311972379 668223 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311972722 101525 :myndzi!myndzi@c-24-22-176-245.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311972806 750552 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311972929 905325 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311973309 496897 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311973445 777223 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311973593 229582 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311973669 81257 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311973676 970092 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves.
< 1311973702 741192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves back
< 1311973724 854020 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems quiet in here. < 1311973749 474839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the time of day < 1311973753 521721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the most active people aren't here right now < 1311973756 295225 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1311973777 234244 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of people but not much going on, wish people wouldn't just idle like that. < 1311973791 882562 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes it seem more is here than there is. < 1311973792 939023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idling's usual so that conversations get a chance to get started < 1311973799 84650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a conversation starts, then people have a chance to join in < 1311973809 199279 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311973812 797918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if people leave as soon as there isn't a conversation, then it won't get started at all < 1311973824 279065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you're new to IRC? < 1311973923 198557 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah one thing about the client I use can't go back and see things I missed. Bah. < 1311973923 400668 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311973955 577234 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I missit the first time it's gone. Meh, screen reader. < 1311973980 528180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like the shittiest client ever < 1311974014 947275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like Vorpal's client < 1311974038 494727 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311974046 595688 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :miranda, eh < 1311974047 804450 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's not the client as much as it is the fact I can't see it. Have the same issue with mIRC. Screen reader and all, can't find one that is more accessible with them. Chatting in a normal window is fine but for some reason chat window like this doesn't let me tab to the output like it should. < 1311974052 77101 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1311974084 311690 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could look at the logs. < 1311974106 153936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see, it's an accessibility problem < 1311974106 300434 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this one makes them and if it does not sure where... But good itea there. < 1311974114 163176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, most programs are really bad about that < 1311974115 419129 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly. < 1311974117 433089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adaria: this may help: http://forums.miranda-im.org/showthread.php?24751-How-to-define-scrollback < 1311974120 440346 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is publicly logged. < 1311974124 80786 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :link in the topic < 1311974136 552431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can ask the client to repeat the topic to you by writing /topic < 1311974150 4244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what screen reader? < 1311974199 511394 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-28.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1311974324 748069 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311974355 239955 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been awhile since I've hung out on here, but I'm too lazy to check the logs. :P < 1311974451 808320 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311974508 69686 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK there, set up logging, should help. < 1311974531 223677 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases scrollback might not be a feature of the client, it will be feature of the terminal emulator < 1311974611 519263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: most people don't use clients that work like that < 1311974625 452472 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls ircII did
< 1311974636 53057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends whether or not it uses graphical user interface < 1311974728 639771 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrolling back works fine in PM and IM windows using MirandaIM but chat windows act differently apparently. It's not a huge deal now that I got logging on. < 1311974770 994523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what screen reader do you use < 1311974812 329149 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found two "accessible" IRC clients, IMC and NightOwl but the latter has a runtime error and the former the link is broken to download. I may have better luck on my main PC using mIRC and TIRC scripts for jaws, I am on my netbook at the moment using NVDA, no scripts for it yet. < 1311974878 781901 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311974990 606271 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311974996 868820 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this room had a cunfusing room desc on it, what usually goes on in here? < 1311975010 565397 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name makes sense but the desc did not. < 1311975023 760843 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty much it. < 1311975025 589980 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc with jaws appears to be the only solution around < 1311975033 723720 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Officially, we discuss esoteric programming languages < 1311975035 512651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we do things here related to computing mostly < 1311975041 273561 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's usually related to programming, but we're not picky. < 1311975061 652217 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day, we discussed chess variant markup languages < 1311975064 646495 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah ok, esoteric to me was not tech related heh. Ah well. < 1311975071 572833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a common mistake < 1311975079 115203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, we're not entirely sure where you should go instead < 1311975083 83522 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay and have fun! < 1311975085 84858 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B13322E.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0/20110615151330] < 1311975088 520529 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This server has SO many rooms though it's insane. < 1311975096 635264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you find out, let us know so we can send other people there for you to talk to < 1311975112 734498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode's mostly a programming (specifically open source) network < 1311975122 276556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so more or less everything here is tech related < 1311975126 857627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one way or another < 1311975171 394143 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fine, I am not a tech minded ... well ok I am but I know zip about languages, I'm more of a play with hardware and new tech toys than software bit. < 1311975209 561790 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is some new tech out there that seems interesting to me, I wanna play with it. < 1311975211 565036 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might consider a different network then. < 1311975227 2662 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, we could use a hardware guy. < 1311975230 105939 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1311975237 729702 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or girl < 1311975250 972126 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are six thousand chans on freenode, I'm sure I'll find something. < 1311975253 193581 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy is gender neutral to me < 1311975260 403620 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1311975266 490242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1311975268 721445 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us know < 1311975323 252194 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Female here but I use guy as androgenous too. < 1311975376 768668 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adaria: So are you visually impaired, or do you just feel like using a screen reader? < 1311975382 955223 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I guess unisex would be the proper word, meh whatever, it works for both. < 1311975388 485700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: heh, in most channels, there wouldn't even be a need to ask < 1311975393 730245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, that's actually a plausible question < 1311975398 98684 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311975408 113091 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know, right. :P < 1311975415 431126 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine an adrogenous specific pronoun < 1311975422 320260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it"? < 1311975431 588537 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely blind here. < 1311975451 441441 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, "it" is that's more of non-human < 1311975522 38585 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely blind? < 1311975522 601278 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1311975534 259133 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never met anyone who's been completely blind before < 1311975568 688097 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've met a blind person, worked as a programmer < 1311975570 847138 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May be getting an IRC client for my phone. iPhone, some love it, others hate it but to me it is truly a lifeline. < 1311975592 975075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone who can only read things within about 2cm of their eyes < 1311975600 345491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching them reading is bizarre < 1311975629 406562 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311975633 750465 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That person needs glasses, methinks < 1311975657 136870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's the problem, or it'd have been fixed like that already < 1311975657 465639 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went blind last year, well lost my good eye, other was blind already. I could never be a programmer, it would fry my brain, I have great reading comprehension and hands on with science stuff but programming languages are just as hard for me as math. < 1311975663 213863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think glasses aren't likely to be able to help much if you see that badly from the start < 1311975663 361979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even shortsightedness isn't that shortsighted < 1311975679 295221 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ping < 1311975686 358915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: pong < 1311975689 637533 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shortsightedness can vary a lot < 1311975691 14232 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good, I'm connected < 1311975691 85164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an unexpected ping < 1311975692 98554 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION met a blind mathematician once
< 1311975695 162184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I'd talked about a minute ago < 1311975704 129428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have /ctcp pinged yourself < 1311975714 623257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bounces off the server twice, so it's a good way to check connectedness < 1311975724 85811 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mildly short-sighted, I use my glasses to watch TV and in lessons, but otherwise I'm fine < 1311975742 618429 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheras my dad has more extreme short-sightedness < 1311975749 316370 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they can't read but that close they might want to try braille. Even though tech is making braille seem so non essential, there really is nothing like being able to read yourself in your own head so to speak. < 1311975762 657415 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I had thoughts wrt the @ pointer thing. < 1311975783 179823 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the point when I tried on his glasses the only thing I could focus on was about a mile away < 1311975786 84084 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi Adaria < 1311975795 630185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I had thoughts with respect to @ too < 1311975803 77668 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get sick of trying to 'read' my own writing in stories and the screen reader just kills the tone that I might otherwise be able to put into it if I could read it myself. < 1311975805 390941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concluded a lot of interesting things, which are probably mutually contradictory < 1311975808 342797 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh dear; you first, please tell me they don't involve Feather < 1311975808 504339 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adaria: I talked a bit with a blind programmer once. I don't recall if he was born sighted, but I gathered it was a real challenge to hold everything in his head at once, especially with all of the screen-reader noise from punctuation. < 1311975828 231166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: they don't < 1311975830 98440 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine blind programming is a bit like using ed < 1311975833 444518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's almost as brainfrying, but for different reasons < 1311975838 625505 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any commands to print multiple lines at once < 1311975878 865987 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the good news with my thoughts is that, I think I have a pointer-passing capability model that works across networks with no need to have computer-to-computer communication different from intra-computer communication < 1311975884 413994 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you first < 1311975918 66138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm in the middle of a bunch of things at the moment, also I was half-asleep and can't quite remember < 1311975933 630357 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1311975934 608237 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1311975940 358912 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'll wait to tell mine too then < 1311975943 543141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but one was that what's possible in the language should match what's possible in the actual real word < 1311975944 890330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*world < 1311975957 482264 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like? < 1311975957 737792 :Adaria!~na@74-36-165-190.dr01.crth.il.frontiernet.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK gonna go get food. I'll beback later on. < 1311975961 925150 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye < 1311975976 910392 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing complete languages are impossible in the real world < 1311975980 707974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's possible that information currently on another machine will be inaccessible, and that another machine might not cooperate if you tell it to do something < 1311975997 488562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the language should be able to understand that concept, in terms of exceptions or via some other method < 1311976009 336147 :MigoMipo_!~John@84-217-0-27.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1311976046 240566 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yes, I already had plans for that, but I think my new model makes it easier < 1311976049 225488 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Please, monads, not exceptions. I like locality. :P < 1311976058 58586 :madbr!~k@98.143.212.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1311976062 644644 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: um "monad" means nothing here < 1311976066 828431 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a specific monad might have some meaning < 1311976068 183719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: I'm not making assumptions about what the language feature /is/, just that it exists < 1311976073 200025 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of being unable to real world turing complete, I was just reading the bitbitjump talk page. that was crazy. < 1311976073 773478 :elliott_!~elliott@95.149.243.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either, for instance, or ErrorT < 1311976089 796166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: another thing was, that for your capabilities, you don't want to be passing references to objects themselves < 1311976092 600714 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ElliottT < 1311976094 80052 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-206.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evincar: "Monad" only makes sense in languages with particular forms of typing. < 1311976096 417148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but references to closures that operate on those objects < 1311976101 877732 :evincar!~jon@d-burl-bng2-70-20-34-51.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Monadic error handling. I'd rather be concise and understandable than pedantically correct. :P < 1311976123 436934 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it wasn't understandcable ;_): < 1311976128 764269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if you pass a reference to