< 1312675832 413816 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test bf ,[>+>+<[-[---->+++++<]>[-<+>]+<<[->[----->++++<]>[-<+>]<<[->+<[->+<[>[->+<]>++<<-[->+<]]]]]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<]<.,] < 1312675832 618732 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1312675841 612592 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test 0123456789 < 1312675844 216271 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :}efg‚ijk‡m < 1312675869 766780 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1312675892 192416 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1312675916 860518 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test bf ,[>+[-[---->+++++<]>[-<+>]+<<[->[----->++++<]>[-<+>]<<[->+<[->+<[>[->+<]>++<<-[->+<]]]]]>[-<+>]>[-<+>]<]<.,] < 1312675917 62697 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1312675921 339769 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test 0123456789 < 1312675922 446147 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :K123A567F9 < 1312675942 960753 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord "K123A567F9" < 1312675943 747260 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [75,49,50,51,65,53,54,55,70,57] < 1312675991 945173 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1312676082 860899 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP < 1312676086 535378 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :}ABCUEFGZIJK_MNO} < 1312676100 691732 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord "}ABCUEFGZIJK_MNO}" < 1312676101 738631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [125,65,66,67,85,69,70,71,90,73,74,75,95,77,78,79,125] < 1312676129 11780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it working? < 1312676143 235438 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the fractran program 5/4, yes < 1312676161 302824 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @ there got multiplied 3 times, as it should < 1312676169 700620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you managed the mod-two thing? < 1312676179 780377 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically not < 1312676252 942437 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically i _still_ cannot get the check (which is actually for mod-four now) to escape the loop, but it _can_ be used to terminate it < 1312676317 665522 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this new method there's no need to give mod 2 a special meaning < 1312676431 792760 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh i think i ended up just making a single character change to the previous program which only applied 5/4 once < 1312676447 443251 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait 2 characters < 1312676480 774610 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing a 0 to 1, and vice versa, causing it to redo the loop with a new initial value instead of halting < 1312676506 347289 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can do two fractions yet? < 1312676517 947894 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this ability to redo with a new value means there is no need to have a surrounding main loop < 1312676537 432644 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well except that i'm reading in a list of chars, but that's different) < 1312676568 450045 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in principle, but it requires combining the fractran fractions < 1312676598 101407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant parse the algorithm in my head. whats the basic method? < 1312676605 797392 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :say for the program 5/2, 5/3 i would need to combine the 2's and 3's into a branch modulo _6_ < 1312676674 124208 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1312676679 426057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: BTW, you're a good dorf. < 1312676685 163274 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dorf? < 1312676690 516290 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the division alg? < 1312676697 204818 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's my full name? < 1312676729 507391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dwarf < 1312676751 142939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 'quintopia' Okillòr, Gem Setter < 1312676788 594038 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjannnnn hows the mod check work? < 1312676824 898609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (We've named the dwarves in our DF succession game after channel members.) < 1312676831 343738 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: put me on a boat and let me explore hell. i was made to travel. < 1312676831 628515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're a carpenter. < 1312676837 780738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Tempting. < 1312676872 299316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 stupid dorf tricks < 1312677025 390126 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it's essentially repeated decrement in a 4 level nested if < 1312677101 825792 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each level first sets up the resulting registers _if_ the main register n has reached 0 by then, so that falling through gives the right behavior (halting or redoing) < 1312677166 536195 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the ]]]] point, the cells are *0 n m+1 for redoing (m=0 when starting an entirely new number) or *0 r 0 for halting < 1312677206 735538 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each iteration which _doesn't_ let n reach 0, will decrement n by 4 and increment m by 4 < 1312677404 511641 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it varies by level how the new n and m are constructed from the old ones. < 1312677459 531670 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the outcome is the ability to branch on n%4, with either halting with some linear function of n/4, or redoing the whole loop again with one < 1312677585 44433 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: got it? < 1312677662 456595 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to do a fractran program 5/2, 5/3 you'd want to do a similar branch modulo 6. < 1312677781 329520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cute, oerjan has picked up the math monologuing from oklopol < 1312677798 128336 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: erm quintopia asked < 1312677799 80656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly quintopia asked :D < 1312677866 456221 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like the "snow permanent" rule in Magic: the Gathering; I would prefer it be "snow object". < 1312678475 820376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you're about to become implicit in a murder. < 1312678519 602735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicit. < 1312678879 963756 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you anything write more ideas/opinions/comment/question based on my idea of new programming language? I also have some other ideas about it too. < 1312678979 112669 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :* The program cannot have a main function; it must be linked with a module in a different programming language in order to compile it into an executable program. < 1312679078 417180 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1312679321 660673 :CakeProphet!~adam@h249.35.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312679321 972828 :CakeProphet!~adam@h249.35.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1312679322 174715 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1312679706 371032 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1312679895 713489 :cheater!~ubuntu@g229129167.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1312680976 605203 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, can't self-host then. < 1312680977 456883 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1312681069 289485 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I know it can't self-host. There are other programming languages, too, that I wouldn't expect to self-host. However, if you really want to, you could write some stub that allows it to, I guess; and a program in itself could be able to generate this stub < 1312681275 778985 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test bf ,[>++[-[----<+++++>]+<<[->[----->++++<]>[-<+>]<<[->+<[->+<[>[->+<]>++<<-[->+<]]]]]>[-<+>]>>]<<.,] < 1312681275 981082 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1312681290 655357 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @ABCDEFGHIJKL < 1312681295 798039 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1312681303 64730 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1312681315 493202 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @A < 1312681320 677634 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1312681327 632160 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects a bug < 1312681371 711788 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test bf ,[>>+[-[----<+++++>]+<<[->[----->++++<]>[-<+>]<<[->+<[->+<[>[->+<]>++<<-[->+<]]]]]>[-<+>]>>]<<.,] < 1312681371 913930 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1312681375 248731 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @ABCDEFGHIJKL < 1312681395 812836 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: now what? < 1312681396 15047 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: will that make life possible. < 1312681401 24609 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @A < 1312681420 304307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Here is the beginnings of my new "Turducken" fortress: A fortress that contains a volcano in it's center. Mostly submerged in this volcano will be another smaller fort, which will also contain an even smaller volcano." < 1312681447 54734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is organising a party ahahahaha HOW OUT-OF-CHARACTER < 1312681507 646768 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def test bf ,[>>+[-[----<+++++>]+<<[->[----->++++<]>[-<+>]<<[->+<[->+<[>[->+<]>++<<-[->+<]]]]]>[-<+>]>]<<.,] < 1312681507 849479 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1312681511 72004 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^test @ABCDEFGHIJKL < 1312681512 938730 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :}ABCUEFGZIJK_ < 1312681516 889772 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew < 1312681530 753244 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION maintains a noble facade of bakery soothsaying < 1312682116 695172 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1312682324 769085 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world of video games loathes the man with one eye and no thumbs. < 1312682331 499270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You're also a dorf. < 1312682337 570276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pretty good soldier, as it happens. < 1312682354 260491 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dwarfpimp < 1312682386 158311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well technically you're dead. < 1312682388 336848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Gregor II isn't. < 1312682477 67847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1312682482 920112 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312682487 618504 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably some game are more difficult if no thumbs < 1312682498 836645 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1312682509 411558 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dorfdorfbürger < 1312682530 939230 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eyes need to readjust < 1312682737 479364 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1312683164 945619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? < 1312683168 426974 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :568) You realise the micromanagement it took to make quintopia encrust my silver throne with emeralds rather than a jug? < 1312684685 268945 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O...K... < 1312684688 808609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's... nearly 4. < 1312684690 681758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I < 1312684694 463513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should really go to bed. < 1312684699 215684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1312684700 922106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1312684780 395766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH is such a wimp. < 1312684859 178980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Lymee: Vorpal: Help. < 1312684862 708417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ping ping ping help. < 1312684886 984542 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ãªã«ãªã« < 1312684915 36700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: OK so the fortress just got sieged. < 1312684917 958695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By goblins. < 1312684924 262167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seigen. Whatever. < 1312684947 865959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I need help because I'm useless. < 1312684967 220185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's seven of them. < 1312684968 423977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help. < 1312684977 287785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do... do I want my military to attack them? < 1312684984 240699 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1312684994 714173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them at once? Okay. < 1312685010 220655 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if your military is strong enough, but. < 1312685016 384872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... isn't. < 1312685027 774515 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other option is to lock your gates. < 1312685032 584724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that too, yes. < 1312685036 514022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think a lot of them are already inside. < 1312685040 638792 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1312685043 38756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps all of them. < 1312685044 337472 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send your military. < 1312685048 2990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1312685051 370915 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And close up sooner next time. < 1312685063 467505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Uh, dude, I'm like two ticks after it told me there was an ambush. < 1312685069 34519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't monitor my traps twenty four seven. < 1312685070 897887 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1312685077 387219 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add a detector animal. < 1312685079 723934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only tells you there's an ambush after they become visible, apparently. < 1312685092 220546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, time to remember the keycombo to flip the lockdown lever. < 1312685097 143185 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you playing dwarf fortress < 1312685104 801124 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1312685107 819870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Yes. We're doing a succession fortress, and it might not live beyond me. < 1312685119 363284 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is. < 1312685160 520559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qaP apparently. < 1312685176 53645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Play a year -> pass it on to the next person -> repeat until it's dead. < 1312685190 688105 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or purposefully slaughtered... < 1312685209 640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit PH, where is the lever??? < 1312685253 780066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA there's a pool of elf blood at my entrance. < 1312685266 443498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I seized all the elves' possessions and murdered them and their donkey.) < 1312685278 428129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the time they send something nasty the fortress will by Lymee's or monqy's. < 1312685304 368352 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee will welcome them. < 1312685305 836405 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :With lava. < 1312685351 831461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: OK but seriously how can I find the lever I need to qaP on. < 1312685361 598252 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm... < 1312685370 813863 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite sure there's a building list with "b" or "B < 1312685374 647388 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll never be able to handle anything nasty < 1312685390 91754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: That's the build menu, isn't it. < 1312685404 479624 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use "R" < 1312685411 86503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, thanks < 1312685451 667341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, here we go < 1312685610 680910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Hmm, it looks like every one of the goblins is outside < 1312685626 374386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I cancel the military orders and just wait for them to go away? < 1312685637 245482 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on if you think the military can handle them. < 1312685649 137178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Well... they were started late last year, and it's now late summer. < 1312685656 346432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH doesn't seem exceptionally confident in them. < 1312685658 251214 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are their skills? < 1312685664 647835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They massacred the elves, but, well, elves have wooden weapons. < 1312685667 822694 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what are the goblins armed with? < 1312685672 8750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Wildly varying skills :-P < 1312685683 13844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the goblins have. < 1312685693 287017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they will go away if I just lockdown long enough, right? < 1312685729 182223 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno... < 1312685733 125123 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I've ever seen that happen. < 1312685760 854869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1312685766 777696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My lever doesn't appear to work. < 1312685804 677816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, OK, our militia commander Vorpal just died. < 1312685858 548273 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Vorpal < 1312685861 145325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to pull 'em out. < 1312685877 224714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure Gregor II, our best soldier, is a goner. < 1312685881 27945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's running from them in the wrong direction. < 1312685886 993838 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I still alive? < 1312685907 920930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think so; you're a boring administrator. < 1312685922 888512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I wonder if they're not heading back to the fortress because they know you can't get in? < 1312685925 13615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I pulled the lever. < 1312685927 845524 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it worked mind you. < 1312685940 310664 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had armies not rush in before. < 1312685988 42239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1312685991 420676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Vorpal's corpse that's not moving < 1312685994 569539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal's mutilated corpse at that < 1312686012 594738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you heading for the river, Gregor II? < 1312686022 130278 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suicidal tendencies. < 1312686034 627412 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you encountered a forgotten beast yet? < 1312686064 932961 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah this guy is so gonna die. < 1312686067 104529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Yes. < 1312686074 118958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He and/or she's boarded up safely. < 1312686077 660240 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it tasty? < 1312686086 415095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He and/or she's boarded up safely. < 1312686096 449495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just gonna... leave it there. < 1312686110 966667 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you sic it on the goblins? < 1312686124 377316 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, also, minor tip. < 1312686124 945519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I... is that even possible? < 1312686131 846765 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :High skill miners are good at killing things. < 1312686159 577173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Dude. I'm not risking monqy. He is our only miner. < 1312686180 874190 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who what < 1312686186 264148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Yeah. < 1312686199 163264 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game are you talking about? < 1312686205 313252 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dwarf Fortress < 1312686205 814257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: Dwarf Fortress. < 1312686210 113850 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1312686212 399601 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a giant lake. < 1312686215 503202 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the middle of a desert < 1312686217 250927 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embark: Y/N < 1312686222 573508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: X-D < 1312686227 129641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Stop playing your game of DF and help me play mine < 1312686239 823516 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1312686263 620696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: If you don't know of it, it's like NetHack except instead of doing things, you order a large number of idiots to do them; and also it's about a thousand times more complicated, and at least twice as difficult. < 1312686369 726529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Can I, like, specifically order Gregor II to come back inside? :-P < 1312686374 80561 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Umm... < 1312686379 611859 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :There might be an alert for that. < 1312686388 526716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's on the highest default alert, at least. < 1312686412 995766 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1312686425 385189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But military overrides that because dumb. < 1312686431 583393 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to make an emergency burrow of sorts and restrict everybody to it, I think. < 1312686512 918140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Gregor II: "She is not a risk-taker. She is mostly unaware of her own emotions and rarely expresses them. She dislikes helping others. She is compassionate. She needs alcohol to get through the working day. She doesn't really care about anything anymore." < 1312686551 7122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also her left foot is cut open, her left foot is bruised, her left lower arm is broken, her left lower arm is cut open, her left lower arm is oozing 'Gregor II' Cloistertrampled's dwarf blood [who else's? Also, best surname -Ed.], her right foot is cut open, her right upper arm is cut open, and her left lower leg is cut open. < 1312686562 675812 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woops. < 1312686607 108762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I should just give up on Gregor II, huh. < 1312686790 256794 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEp~ < 1312686791 253112 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep* < 1312686802 392771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, dead. < 1312686873 606117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goblins seem to be leaving. < 1312686876 277833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING HELL NIHILISTDANDY < 1312686879 294156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP CREATING MASTERPIECES < 1312686882 335628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DO IT LITERALLY MULTIPLE TIMES A MINUTE < 1312687067 53021 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't that be lethal if you're short on supplies? < 1312687110 129859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't think we are. < 1312687165 20205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish the goblins would make their way to the entrance or leave. < 1312687461 704859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus just got himself killed. < 1312687538 905659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Well, the goblins are going through traps now. < 1312687651 68186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Haha, I think the goblins are neutralised < 1312687656 963540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only three goblins not in cages < 1312687660 564022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I think they're trapped between cages < 1312687670 298639 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't get trapped between cages. < 1312687680 101603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. They're standing perfectly still. < 1312687683 346145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With caves on each side of them. < 1312687688 493063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a cage trap. < 1312687690 274807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not cages. < 1312687691 410311 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're waiting. < 1312687696 616678 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1312687700 59006 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, are they active traps? < 1312687707 938511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: The cage traps both have goblins in. < 1312687708 506768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's < 1312687709 202547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :T < 1312687709 488170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1312687709 916590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :T < 1312687710 245717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :G < 1312687716 181613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where T = cage trap that is filled with a goblin. < 1312687719 994630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/G/g/ < 1312687720 683583 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1312687724 363866 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't trap them, I don't think < 1312687727 535489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there's just floor eblow the bottom g. < 1312687731 899129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to the right of the top g, for that matter. < 1312687739 922744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1312687746 4714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: One of them is ... standing on top of a goblin cage < 1312687751 615723 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1312687752 182818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's the other, in fact < 1312687761 395733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other has two goblins on top of a cage. < 1312687764 476624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, umm... < 1312687766 252021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they trapped? < 1312687770 678459 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1312687775 147385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then what are they doing. < 1312687784 725448 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Camping around I guess. < 1312687787 680146 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem to do that. < 1312687797 497561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really, really want to get off alert soon, because there's human traders and I want to give them shit. < 1312687806 637930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But nobody can get to the depot. < 1312687809 709284 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of my alert level. < 1312687815 666896 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send your military at them. < 1312687819 338460 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should be weakened. < 1312687834 651887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're... not, but fine. < 1312687840 187179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have to fight the tree that aren't trapped, right? < 1312687842 595156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three. < 1312687862 673384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also... < 1312687865 362992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My entire military squad is dead. < 1312687886 601402 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1312687899 454914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was only like three people. < 1312687904 336823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe four. < 1312687943 938851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out which skill I need for military. < 1312687978 313943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siege engineering?? < 1312688005 281372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: ha;lp < 1312688028 236416 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siege Engineering is for building balista and stuff < 1312688040 390298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1312688061 870036 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to make quintopia a miner while he's at it, since we only have monqy, and quintopia is the only one with any other mining skills. < 1312688064 221326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus he's a gem setter. < 1312688068 928275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess he isn't doing that much. < 1312688083 448845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: So are there really no labours good for -- oh wait, military has its own set. < 1312688093 993516 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mining. < 1312688103 797961 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much the only non-military skill that can be used to kill stuff. < 1312688114 524383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is a legendary mining, it seems. < 1312688115 467231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :miner. < 1312688133 301385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Yeah, I just don't have any half-decent soldiers elft. < 1312688134 11032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :left. < 1312688146 92627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from MAYBE monqy, and I am NOT going to risk him. < 1312688169 578993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, he's busy smoothing my bedroom floor ;-) < 1312688178 76621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, one of the goblins moved. < 1312688207 494473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I mean, there's like over ten traps still for them to pass through. < 1312688211 946947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they're practically guaranteed to get trapped. < 1312688214 525594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I hate waiting for it. < 1312688273 891224 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1312688373 880933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent, another one trapped. < 1312688375 509908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another one. < 1312688376 980162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one goblin left. < 1312688401 269151 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure monqy can take care of them~ < 1312688406 103513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE NGEBZO DIE < 1312688408 848573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO < 1312688444 443527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Let me try and explain :-P < 1312688462 180996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy's mining skill level: Twenty. < 1312688464 704135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is Legendary. < 1312688484 946295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's... < 1312688492 40365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is five. < 1312688496 845450 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1312688498 373681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: So yeah. < 1312688501 32839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And NOBODY else < 1312688502 555634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a single person < 1312688504 842532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has any mining skills at all < 1312688515 407284 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :With high enough quality pickaxes and some armor, a miner should be a good last resort. But... < 1312688522 107483 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need to use a last resort =p < 1312688528 600857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'd lose my last fucking miner :P < 1312688531 854943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, these guys are gonna be trapped. < 1312688537 804914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need this one dude to walk in. < 1312688543 42967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't escape, AFAIK. < 1312688546 867933 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously though, I'm quite sure mining is the easiest combat usable skill to train. < 1312688567 714587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna ask for an extension of time with this fortress considering that I've lost... well, far too long, fighting these goblins X-D < 1312688575 758359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Yeah, well, quintopia should learn it up now that I've designated him as one. < 1312688589 859921 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed, Redmine still asks your SREG "nickname", "fullname", and "email" fields even if you have already registered, although it seems doesn't use them. < 1312688596 656635 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except when registering) < 1312688625 466401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph, our still has no brew drink task going. < 1312688628 723839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :T-Pain has been slacking off. < 1312688647 792376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Think monqy could take on a single goblin in a field of traps? < 1312688657 662575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am really getting sick of that guy. < 1312688659 613445 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1312688665 737408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he has AN INJURY < 1312688669 307377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"His right lower arm is dented." < 1312688672 117362 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't be a problem, but.... < 1312688682 891985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I recall monqy, he shouldn't have any problem getting back in. < 1312688687 767695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a single-file trap place. < 1312688695 230306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from five blocks open to the right at one point. < 1312688709 856870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give this goblin another minute or so. < 1312688720 87836 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send in somebody on a random outside job as bait. < 1312688732 583921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1312688737 693968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on too high an alert level for that. < 1312688747 734413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could sacrifice someone, but they probably wouldn't kill the dude. < 1312688758 992493 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you see. < 1312688761 159468 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :They encounter goblin. < 1312688764 278100 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goblin gives chase. < 1312688766 131030 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Person runs. < 1312688768 450563 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goblin gets trapped. < 1312688779 100660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah; the goblin's at the beginning of the trap plcae. < 1312688779 811617 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :place. < 1312688785 544557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the goblin would just run in free space. < 1312688865 801892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just removes the alert level out of curiosity. < 1312688880 964975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are coming upstairs now. < 1312688886 950010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully it'll tempt the goblin to come here. :p < 1312688891 500594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, a right rush it is. < 1312689003 65976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Sigun Artoboslan, who has basically no skill in everything, and is a milker, and who has no job, is gonna get sacrificed. < 1312689050 764360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Will my militia squad commander fight if he's the only guy on a squad...? < 1312689076 348280 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1312689106 611022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1312689137 470438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't... seem to be happening. < 1312689171 473921 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's just not good at fighting. < 1312689206 485288 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Umm, are you sure about that? < 1312689219 655948 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly. < 1312689339 225974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye merchants. < 1312689342 273598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1312689343 982025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're about to. < 1312689345 580236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know. < 1312689346 205835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leave. < 1312689353 758795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what that means. < 1312689355 890012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going through the traps. < 1312689921 388071 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What'd I do? < 1312689931 412981 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, masterpieces < 1312689935 565331 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of masterpieces? < 1312689955 548874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: So many. < 1312689957 627353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a stonecrafter. < 1312689960 99789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And literally the best one ever. < 1312689973 453733 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As if there were ever a doubt < 1312689982 454074 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any choice items? < 1312690021 886255 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, multiple times a minute? Damn, I'm good < 1312690112 241458 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, did I survive the goblin onslaught? < 1312690148 607920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Only military has died so far < 1312690153 797815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hi < 1312690154 767097 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet < 1312690160 877376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: But seriously, you create bags of the stuff on a regular basis < 1312690163 101959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You churn out masterpieces < 1312690188 273151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: It's annoying enough that I want to turn off the messages about you creating a masterpiece < 1312690205 57516 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has been the best shit all week < 1312690240 114745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Hey, do you play DF, I forget < 1312690264 924156 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought about it. I played for like 8 seconds the other day when you started talking about it, but I haven't gotten way into it, by any means < 1312690279 685769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: So clearly you want to play in the succession game < 1312690303 467958 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in the next game? Or is "succession game" a technical term? < 1312690314 555102 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, clearly I do < 1312690327 166102 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully I'll survive and continue being masterful < 1312690354 100727 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably learn the controls before my turn < 1312690356 363378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Succession game = everyone plays a year, passes the fortress on, repeat < 1312690361 241601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: There's an awful lot of controls. < 1312690372 725362 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I learn befroe I start < 1312690381 461176 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmm. Sure. I should probably play a couple of games before my turn, though < 1312690416 94923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: "A couple of games" < 1312690418 623005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games can last indefinitely :-P < 1312690423 366019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I dunno, go through the quickstart guide? < 1312690427 798773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: On the wiki < 1312690433 922698 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: will do < 1312690444 503426 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably either later tonight or tomorrow < 1312690461 105021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That could take a while ;-) < 1312690479 656204 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, I need to play until I don't just die, then < 1312690487 609871 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't die immediately, that is < 1312690500 253413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's quite hard to just die early on < 1312691109 98510 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1312691265 338284 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please help the wiki https://devlabs.linuxassist.net/projects/texnicard/wiki/Dangelo_Programming_Language < 1312691305 38912 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I applied some skin or other to it, now. I have no desire to look at ASCII all night. I got nethack out of my system, thank you. (Okay, that's not quite true) < 1312691315 968219 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the interface is nice, overall, for a spreadsheet < 1312691398 451000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh come on, there's barely any micromanagement at all with a reasonable playstyle. < 1312691414 715602 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just kidding, jeez :P < 1312691418 203018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even a job interface which makes everyone coordinate and fetch resources and craft things and put them in piles just from a task like "construct 99 beds" :p < 1312691438 700363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Honestly though, I have trouble believing any really-graphical set could convey the same amount of info the pseudo-textual set does < 1312691455 872722 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as? < 1312691461 311573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attempting to look realistic just decreases the number of possible designs < 1312691464 174693 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not really that graphical < 1312691467 324850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a fuckload types of block < 1312691470 931103 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just shitty little sprites < 1312691485 103783 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screenshotting < 1312691490 323270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus sprites will always be bigger than the pseudo-text tiles, and so it'll pack less info onto the screen at once :-P < 1312691534 230431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Here's what I see, and I find that I strongly wish for a bigger viewing area: http://ompldr.org/vOXNobA < 1312691553 914615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overground is much more complicated < 1312691677 139179 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21008274/blah.tiff < 1312691692 48438 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would have been faster, but I didn't realize Dropbox wasn't "Lion-ready" < 1312691725 992428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice ... wand with a Wii strap. < 1312691736 96884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now it works. < 1312691746 764719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: That's most definitely a very graphical set. < 1312691757 441602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what kind of fort is that? Isn't that some mod? < 1312691767 783233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it's fucked up your text < 1312691772 497015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See that one step thing? < 1312691774 177005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a . < 1312691777 160893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every . in text will look like that < 1312691778 792126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have fun with that < 1312691795 789042 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's just the object blah blah blah < 1312691799 161280 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sandbox thing < 1312691810 656626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1312691813 125998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1312691824 557862 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fort, that is < 1312691828 591381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish they'd smooth my floor more quickly. < 1312691831 966760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1312691833 258168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually. < 1312691838 682653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like how... < 1312691883 561286 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1312691957 653946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION channels out his bedroom. < 1312692037 128422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is oerjan just sitting there... < 1312692092 684053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These dorfs are incompetent. < 1312692093 858233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, migrants. < 1312692156 972769 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, shit. Now that I've removed the graphical set (i.e., I untar'd again), shit doesn't even run :| < 1312692208 230518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What error < 1312692219 23231 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Found a fix < 1312692221 513408 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problems < 1312692275 507011 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: NOT ANOTHER FUCKING MASTERPIECE < 1312692289 106894 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YES < 1312692320 456380 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you know what? I take it back. The text was *is* better < 1312692324 52308 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flowing water, for one < 1312692347 928913 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though what all this shit means, I can't begin to imagine < 1312692395 753926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Try using k to examine shit < 1312692401 611092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quickstart guide is recommended, I read, like, half of it ;D < 1312692401 813212 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing so < 1312692407 987449 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get right on that < 1312692573 379141 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Does it say what kind of masterpieces, or is it just "NihilistDandy created another fucking masterpiece"? < 1312692620 675072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: The latter < 1312692629 963012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could look, but we just sell off bags of them instead < 1312692674 725004 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My works will probably cause economic collapse < 1312692685 876275 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1312692688 73193 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All currency, devalued, and all because of me < 1312692690 980813 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you're a Congressman? < 1312692704 405793 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: A MASTERPIECE OF MALICE < 1312693034 98953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1312693034 481414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1312693034 908429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1312693037 737756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: FUCK HELP < 1312693046 16702 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ãªã«ãªã«ãªã«ãªã« < 1312693048 302658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: MULE WENT BEZERK < 1312693048 505020 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: he is so silly!!! :d divided by your number < 1312693052 410274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN THE HUMAN MERCHANT WENT BERZERK < 1312693053 593084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND < 1312693059 874375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING < 1312693063 834815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST < 1312693064 418752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE < 1312693065 115896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH < 1312693065 542290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1312693069 58927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MILITARY????? < 1312693082 140474 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send in monqy < 1312693101 111898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1312693101 778038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1312693107 535079 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let the traps do the work. < 1312693120 100400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're downstairs < 1312693121 299441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason < 1312693162 419930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: I think maybe I locked them in?? < 1312693223 784605 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feed them lava. < 1312693273 270662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Not... practical. < 1312693327 177371 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open a tunnel between them and the forgotten beast. < 1312693387 135077 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET THE MASTERPIECES FLOW LIKE WINE < 1312693414 846470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: lol < 1312693418 779864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that even work < 1312693421 727977 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1312693542 401213 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :luke-jr> Sgeo: if people are going to commit sexual abuse, they should be infected. < 1312693563 601303 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With what? Kid AIDS? < 1312693587 603657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you in jesus again. < 1312693592 492755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cba to type the octothorpe so deal with that ambiguity. < 1312693623 98724 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the infection comes double if you sexually abuse jesus < 1312693649 940963 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have to be non-consensual. < 1312693686 869046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK seriously someone help me deal with this rmpage. < 1312693703 283605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rampage. < 1312693889 480651 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me im too legendarey < 1312693902 332588 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same < 1312693909 42265 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm busy making masterpieces < 1312694089 813268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I'll send you in if I have to. < 1312694452 352996 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : opt1mus: women have too many "rights" today < 1312694452 595133 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : luke-jr: which ones are too many? < 1312694452 595342 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : everything's gone downhill ever since they were allowed to vote < 1312694452 595448 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh dear. < 1312694452 595558 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe even before < 1312694497 70409 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading < 1312694509 502772 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the first nail in the coffin < 1312694522 709971 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is this happening? < 1312694536 288756 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, #jesus < 1312694542 403274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hahaha < 1312694543 497432 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohheyhowunexpected < 1312694551 535871 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION resists clicking for her sanity < 1312694553 932820 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i figured it out < 1312694559 419494 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION not in the mood to blow up on somebody < 1312694568 58552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: you cant blow up on luke-jr hes amazing < 1312694572 390947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it him that supports book burning Sgeo < 1312694573 385808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is < 1312694575 559466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it the other one < 1312694596 81940 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I think there are several that support book burning < 1312694600 105023 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game is bad because Hitler played it. < 1312694605 479209 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, tell him that men have way too many rights. < 1312694607 158085 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch explosion~ < 1312694619 467720 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the king's lava, please don't step in it. < 1312694708 754734 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahha < 1312694714 313130 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo++ < 1312694716 527267 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joining for lulz < 1312694723 630185 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name alone should be enough to cause trouble < 1312694777 126890 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should join using the name "HaruhiSuzumiya" < 1312694787 585834 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody will notice~ < 1312694832 36678 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I just say something luke-jr agreed with? I feel dirty < 1312694844 438679 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should take it back < 1312694851 164864 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him that the Trinity is awesome and perfect < 1312694861 522771 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NON-BELIEVERS ARE TO BE SHUNNED < 1312694875 810104 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I join #jesus as "MadokaKaname" or "HaruhiSuzumiya" < 1312694892 637193 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaname < 1312694941 572602 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would it be obvioustroll... < 1312694948 323990 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I abjured that heresy" < 1312694954 135947 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He talks like a D&D manual < 1312695011 427895 :MadokaKaname!~moe@adsl-68-95-249-36.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312695012 681105 :MadokaKaname!~moe@adsl-68-95-249-36.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^__^ < 1312695043 742506 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, just ask "What reasons are there to think that a god exists?". That should leave them arguing for ages. < 1312695116 459107 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, luke-jr believes the Catholic Church can be proven to be authoritative through logic < 1312695125 438319 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HAI GUISE. I just read this awesome proof of God's existence. You should all go tell #math about it" < 1312695147 674212 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Does he even have true premises? < 1312695166 498317 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if I've even heard his logic < 1312695168 544466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION saves the fort for today. < 1312695193 703566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna... handle that rampage tomorrow. < 1312695195 133465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone remind me. < 1312695383 327364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: How's your fort doing < 1312695393 622738 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been playing :D < 1312695400 414643 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to sleep in a minute < 1312695409 152955 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to take my brother to school in the morning < 1312695416 111332 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's a long-ass drive < 1312695427 784722 :MadokaKaname!~moe@adsl-68-95-249-36.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net PART #esoteric :"Huggles for everybody~♪ ^_^" < 1312695438 400528 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither trolling nor arguing seems fun. < 1312695438 974451 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[ < 1312695448 691251 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, srsly < 1312695485 943465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: The best game is to see what they will believe in < 1312695499 156877 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION too depressed < 1312696031 789952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love "there is one authority that can interpret Scripture" < 1312696046 561184 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is painful < 1312696049 134001 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1312696083 348007 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, he's fundie Catholic < 1312696107 13536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone talk about the da vinci code in there to rile them up < 1312696122 700826 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I demand quintopia do it < 1312696170 558456 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahblahblah but jesus had a wife and they liked sexing blahblahblah < 1312696179 497565 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a Satanist. < 1312696181 799292 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1312696183 327879 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT < 1312696192 632777 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know any < 1312696193 468516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S TRUE I SAW IT IN THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST < 1312696207 998896 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You're doing it in the wrong channel < 1312696212 972409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Brown esoteric lang < 1312696228 917648 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: i dont care enough. you do it. < 1312696233 487689 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solve puzzles to figure out how the syntax works < 1312696253 885499 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm too involved now. THEY MIGHT JUDGE ME < 1312696266 583487 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: FSVO puzzle < 1312696296 717556 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fsvo' means what < 1312696304 359862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: guy talked about burning the satanic bible in there < 1312696305 801912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was beautiful < 1312696309 397190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: for some value of fsvo < 1312696316 709034 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1312696328 497117 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Nice < 1312696347 161495 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... why are we trolling again? < 1312696353 792305 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo some value of < 1312696363 134644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: Who said you're trolling < 1312696365 939613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just observers < 1312696377 55270 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you trolling again < 1312696439 955783 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you mean Dan Brown? < 1312696458 822930 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops yeah, dan < 1312696500 907219 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HONORIUS IS NOT AN EXAMPLE < 1312696513 449049 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see what the reaction from saying negative things about God is. < 1312696559 313802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee: probably boring < 1312696559 726073 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They think that God is a perfectly good being that endorses mass murder. < 1312696572 671672 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's going to be hella boring. < 1312696575 820868 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Just like me < 1312696582 46809 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fist part < 1312696585 230105 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*first < 1312696588 839374 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also fist < 1312696611 686993 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: The "They think" bit? < 1312696633 387561 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a perfectly good being that endorses mass murder < 1312696655 549380 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're perfectly good. < 1312696675 690954 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the sense of "the apotheosis of goodness" < 1312696680 946412 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in the sense of < 1312696685 858548 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call God a hypocrite. < 1312696688 153320 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A perfectly good sandwich" < 1312696694 722193 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully sparks fly. < 1312696835 85599 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Do you hang out in there a lot, or are you *ONE OF THEM*? < 1312696882 137753 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, the channel owner said he considered making me an op... < 1312696888 613238 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: He'll just say Honorius didn't do it ex cathedra so it's not infallible < 1312696912 235559 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That doesn't answer the question~ < 1312697049 599496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hahaha really < 1312697136 936439 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1312697146 142758 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want him to say it < 1312697174 391378 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? infallible not impeccable? < 1312697178 761261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is a weird one < 1312697201 142465 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I don't think he considers Pope John Paul II to be a pope. < 1312697205 810669 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something, not sure < 1312697215 587050 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pope John Paul II is a pope < 1312697237 167050 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Church is above the Bible < 1312697237 369173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was certainly a legally elected pontiff < 1312697238 495501 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1312697284 243796 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1312697348 862659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: He could be an antiPope. < 1312697353 872162 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, antipope? < 1312697380 710504 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, to be an antipope the Church has to declare a pope to be that way. < 1312697392 272914 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the Church is about to sanctify him. < 1312697404 365482 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be mistake < 1312697428 888212 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: You mean canonize? < 1312697429 173035 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION baits < 1312697440 893659 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Erm, yes. < 1312697452 759614 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Having never been Catholic, it's easy to screw up their terminology. < 1312697491 15538 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really like all their silly arcana < 1312697498 17939 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judaism has them beat, of course < 1312697515 609721 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judaism practically invented arcana. :P < 1312697531 653543 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has been unaware of Jewish arcana < 1312697537 968984 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost converted just so I could look at my roommate's books < 1312697555 498958 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should add that this "racism" person is someone I've never seen in #jesus before < 1312697613 926007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really like all their silly arcana Judaism has them beat, of course I almost converted just so I could look at my roommate's books < 1312697614 166755 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sephirot Here, have fun. < 1312697615 328592 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :569) Having only been Catholic in the sense of being baptized that way, I still really like all their silly arcana Judaism has them beat, of course I almost converted just so I could look at my roommate's books < 1312697640 604454 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1312697726 207307 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, that is esoteric in the *other* sense. < 1312697763 176653 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE COME FULL-CIRCLE < 1312697904 950108 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This game is bad because Hitler played it." and "This is the king's lava, please don't step in it." are quotations from a computer game I made once < 1312697921 303372 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312697924 164675 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care whose lava it is. < 1312697929 589315 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that game already < 1312697987 310787 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you like this game without playing this game at first? < 1312698005 109558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a text adventure? < 1312698010 821756 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :text adventures are good < 1312698027 169998 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No. It is not. Sorry. But I like text adventures too < 1312698046 646520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what kind of game? < 1312698092 705961 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a MegaZeux game. < 1312698192 852466 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is 2 screenshots http://www.digitalmzx.net/wiki/index.php?title=File:Ascmzxto.png < 1312698306 15472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fun < 1312698409 853900 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \l -> ceil $ (log (read (map (\x -> '5') l) :: Int)) / (log 10) < 1312698410 423847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `ceil' < 1312698415 720386 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/mzx1/ASCMZXTO/ASCMZXTO.ZIP is download game world file, and http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/mzx1/mzx_extended/ is download MegaZeux itself (required for loading the world file in order to play game) < 1312698418 593853 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super stupid length function, yay < 1312698439 340140 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \l -> ceiling $ (log (read (map (\x -> '5') l) :: Int)) / (log 10) < 1312698440 171519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (RealFrac Int) < 1312698440 373567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `ceiling' at :1:6-12 < 1312698440 373767 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add an instance declaration for (RealFrac Int) < 1312698450 953160 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \l -> ceiling $ (log (read (map (\x -> '5') l) :: Double)) / (log 10) < 1312698451 524484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b a. (Integral b) => [a] -> b < 1312698453 214218 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You do not need to download "megazeux.4th" unless you are creating your own MegaZeux games and they are using Forth codse) < 1312698457 634711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what languages have you written games in < 1312698467 888831 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ceiling $ (log (read (map (\x -> [1, 2, 3, 4]) l) :: Double)) / (log 10) < 1312698468 466215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1312698468 668346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type... < 1312698476 977257 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ceiling $ (log (read (map (\x -> '5') [1, 2, 3, 4]) :: Double)) / (log 10) < 1312698477 545367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4 < 1312698482 385408 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :How stupid is this code? < 1312698491 929743 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \l -> ceiling $ (log (read (map (\x -> '5') l) :: Double)) / (log 10) < 1312698492 132738 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . (:: Double) . read . map (const '5') < 1312698501 337726 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: MegaZeux, ZZT, QBASIC, Game Maker, C, GameBoy machine codes, etc. < 1312698512 397785 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src :: < 1312698512 639213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. And you call yourself a Rocket Scientist! < 1312698516 172614 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t :: < 1312698516 742174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `::' < 1312698523 31087 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type (::) < 1312698524 68808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `::' < 1312698533 951244 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made many games with QBASIC. < 1312698542 952635 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's even a thing really < 1312698548 84114 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just an annotation < 1312698577 112391 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even Forth. < 1312698586 652348 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And TI-92 calculator. < 1312698596 630604 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1312698615 780621 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (:: Double) < 1312698616 548654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `::' < 1312698625 435542 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, does pl not support :: right? < 1312698634 103981 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . (:: Double) . read . map (const '5') < 1312698634 739213 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `::' < 1312698648 633416 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read :: Double . map (const '5') < 1312698649 261568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal symbol '.' in type < 1312698649 464319 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably assumes it's a function < 1312698649 464495 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you intended -XRankNTypes or similar flag < 1312698649 464605 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : to enable explicit-forall syntax: forall . < 1312698656 629127 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . (read :: Double) . map (const '5') < 1312698657 234191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Double' < 1312698657 436427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `String -> a' < 1312698657 436603 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `(.)', namely `(read :: Double)' < 1312698664 740491 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : @pl doesn't actually know anything about most things < 1312698811 476348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1312698827 718801 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . (\x -> read x :: Double) . map (const '5') < 1312698828 289217 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b a. (Integral b) => [a] -> b < 1312698833 725304 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which isn't really point free buttt < 1312698870 873370 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read . map (const '5') < 1312698871 442822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall b a. (Integral b) => [a] -> b < 1312698912 452072 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read . map (const '5')) [1..10] < 1312698913 719256 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1312698919 683009 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read . map (const '5')) [1..10000] < 1312698921 59939 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805... < 1312698927 35323 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1312698928 527534 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read . map (const '5')) [1..1000] < 1312698929 965904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805... < 1312698931 865684 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (ceiling . (/ log 10) . log . read . map (const '5')) [1..100] < 1312698933 260399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1312698938 599640 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :whathappened D: < 1312698958 603184 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :My super-convoluted len function broke < 1312698982 736467 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> foldl (+) (map (const 1) x) < 1312698982 938891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :foldl (+) . map (const 1) < 1312698992 230970 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl (+) . map (const 1)) [1..100] < 1312698992 658442 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show ([[t]] -> [t]) < 1312698992 860595 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a us... < 1312699010 325560 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> foldl (+) (map (const 1) x) < 1312699011 78759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall t a. (Num [t], Num t) => [a] -> [[t]] -> [t] < 1312699031 481661 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \x -> foldl1 (+) (map (const 1) x) < 1312699032 118714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a a1. (Num a) => [a1] -> a < 1312699041 765538 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..100] < 1312699043 154635 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1312699044 206432 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..100000] < 1312699045 641549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100000 < 1312699047 3662 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..100000000] < 1312699050 693328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699099 980929 :Nisstyre!~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1312699119 818238 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once programmed a Star Wars game into the computer, even though I have never watched Star Wars and don't actually know much about it. < 1312699121 342496 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-203-192.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1312699124 326582 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..10000000] < 1312699127 216646 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-172.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312699134 767920 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1312699134 970473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699136 518619 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..1000000] < 1312699140 307602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699142 778258 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..200000] < 1312699144 498711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 200000 < 1312699145 456448 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..300000] < 1312699147 520383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1312699150 706872 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..300000] < 1312699152 322575 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1312699153 525077 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1312699156 639119 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldr1 (+) . map (const 1)) [1..300000] < 1312699158 348482 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1312699165 921307 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..300000] < 1312699167 291105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 300000 < 1312699170 358560 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..400000] < 1312699171 680665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 400000 < 1312699172 961079 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..500000] < 1312699174 321303 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 500000 < 1312699175 217750 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..600000] < 1312699176 459171 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 600000 < 1312699177 314171 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..700000] < 1312699178 739234 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 700000 < 1312699179 829986 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..800000] < 1312699181 195643 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 800000 < 1312699182 384598 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..1000000] < 1312699183 807629 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1000000 < 1312699185 321286 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..10000000] < 1312699187 227273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10000000 < 1312699188 824169 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..100000000] < 1312699192 235565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699197 188111 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..50000000] < 1312699200 726786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699203 599877 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..40000000] < 1312699207 125576 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699208 734700 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..30000000] < 1312699212 299883 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699213 11931 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..20000000] < 1312699215 760342 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20000000 < 1312699216 742149 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally not bot abuse. < 1312699219 398319 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..25000000] < 1312699222 379362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 25000000 < 1312699224 338026 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (+) . map (const 1)) [1..27000000] < 1312699227 187763 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1312699471 782199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1312699553 292185 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DID NOTHING < 1312699573 640294 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most annoying character to listen to in the Bible has got to be Jesus in the Gospel of Joh < 1312699576 964763 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :John < 1312699583 562340 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x y->x+1 < 1312699583 765168 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :const . (1 +) < 1312699604 330730 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1312699606 945206 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (const . (1 +))) [1..10000000] < 1312699609 131010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10000000 < 1312699614 198874 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldl1' (const . (1 +))) [1..100000000] < 1312699617 945249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312699630 613393 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bored much? < 1312699646 517047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: try not using an audiobook < 1312699742 82722 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone made a scientific experiment relating to copy protection. Copy protection does hurt sales. Unencrypted previews of works workout copy protection do slightly increase sales (and possibly save you money, too). < 1312699809 492073 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The experiment was only books, though, in this case. But evidence (but not any proper scientific experiment) has shown similar for other things too. < 1312699851 839078 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (foldr1' (const . (1 +))) [1..100000000] < 1312699852 833736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `foldr1'' < 1312700013 151226 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1312700368 663025 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:53:56] racism: strings ~/.bitcoin/blk0001.dat -n21 | perl -nle 's/^.*(?=B)//&&print' | uniq | head -n13 < 1312700403 109021 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't perl heretical? < 1312700465 459413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1312700469 27101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something to do with bitcoin at least. < 1312700475 326635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has he explained that............... < 1312700533 370448 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all < 1312700538 330136 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one's even asked about it < 1312700585 672516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Got bitcoin installed? < 1312700591 40543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is only one option < 1312700595 127608 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not right now, actually < 1312700597 109620 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to < 1312700837 814292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped being vaguely interested in Bitcoin when it turns out that everyone is either incompetent, or incompetent and an anarcho-capitalist idiot < 1312700857 755226 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1312700961 779037 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: left < 1312700985 244140 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he refuses to explain it < 1312700992 201269 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate perl people < 1312701168 917411 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:08:39] NihilistDandy: I am embedding the Divine Praises into the Bitcoin block chain. < 1312701171 976233 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:11:02] Yes, I suppose you could say that, in a sense < 1312701174 495395 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:11:15] … < 1312701177 46291 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:11:19] no, I literally am. < 1312701179 523932 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:11:27] that command line extracts them from it :P < 1312701182 65407 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[03:11:50] That's odd < 1312701229 657909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1312701238 463300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the block chains can have like strings in them? < 1312701241 947908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's just... extracting the strings... < 1312701269 758825 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this means luke-jr put a block with Divine Praises in the chain? < 1312701274 72943 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to find the block? < 1312701306 130267 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even possible to do that? < 1312701311 468571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: or he just made his own chain < 1312701311 753287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1312701473 272733 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, ask him "in what language" < 1312701501 396861 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymee, you do it? < 1312701505 251067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: What was it with the racism anyway < 1312701507 382075 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1312701509 230867 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're not on < 1312701513 336438 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312701515 556081 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1312701542 259743 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :racism is not welcome in #jesus, despite his having the requisite zealousness < 1312701602 672126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've done haskell for about 5-6 years now" -- person who uses "return $ f $ unsafePerformIO x" in place of "f <$> x" < 1312701608 501855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they think it's more readable < 1312701630 8658 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :ಠ_ಠ < 1312701651 310365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done Haskell for... two hours maybe? < 1312701659 418146 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea what either of them do < 1312701660 917735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: can you ban them with your mod powers............................ < 1312701663 609657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant deal........ < 1312701699 427860 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, what? < 1312701713 72451 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not sure what to make of that guy < 1312701715 281205 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : /r/haskell? < 1312701724 382634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yeah < 1312701728 937676 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link? < 1312701729 529809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: bad person :( < 1312701735 744211 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: <$> is another name for fmap, which is the single method defined by the Functor typeclass. < 1312701739 722504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/jarp0/hi_guys_i_made_a_haskell_to_clojure_translator/ WARNING FLAMMABLE.................................................................... < 1312701792 673196 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for lists, fmap is equivalent to map. For most other monads, it does a similar "lifting" operation, changing a function of type a -> b to type f a -> f b < 1312701808 937651 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It would be a good idea for me to actually use the type system in this project though" < 1312701809 224161 :Nisstyre!~nisstyre@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1312701813 979350 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY MIND < 1312701816 382503 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312701820 663319 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you not use the type system? < 1312701831 890508 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this person hurts my soul < 1312701834 6729 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD MAN < 1312701836 685137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype LC = LC (LC -> LC) < 1312701840 866238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy typeless....... < 1312701851 795848 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: make sense? < 1312701853 519386 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312701862 763606 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of... < 1312701870 563562 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you know how map works right? < 1312701876 362075 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1312701878 461030 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he can't even git correctly < 1312701890 588549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applies a function over every member of the list < 1312701894 824256 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy, Jason? < 1312701912 194018 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No, this person on /r/haskell < 1312701915 219947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a Functor f has the function fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1312701917 1504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the rules are: < 1312701919 707392 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you just say "map f" then you've lifted the function to a parametric type, in this case being []. So f, whose type was a -> b, is now lifted to the type f a -> f b, where f, in this specific case, is [] < 1312701920 775507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fmap f . fmap g = fmap (f . g) < 1312701922 585067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fmap id = id < 1312701923 452566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1312701926 228263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap id x = id < 1312701927 124075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1312701931 824497 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap is the more general form of map. Where f can be any instance of the Functor typeclass. < 1312701932 534893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap f (fmap g x) == fmap (f . g) < 1312701936 354847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what . is? < 1312701938 974223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: That's all there is to know < 1312701957 360199 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why on earth would you translate Haskell to Clojure? Those words almost don't make sense when you say them all together like that. < 1312701958 66428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally anything that satisfies those laws is a functor < 1312701967 431255 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312701969 428622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you don't need any analogies to understand it :) < 1312701976 798382 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they tend to help. < 1312701985 241040 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know how I know this person used commit -a? < 1312701996 166564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: really? most monad tutorials make people completely confused for weeks. < 1312702000 221138 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are functors a monoid? < 1312702002 54344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the functor laws are really simple. < 1312702009 531217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: no < 1312702055 76172 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Y'know, a really awesome git tutorial would be a series of posts on *implementing git*. < 1312702074 452494 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofunctors form a nice monoidal category :) < 1312702077 876609 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Maybe people like this person would be able to actually grasp it after that. < 1312702087 300527 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, no associative binary operator < 1312702088 723184 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly me < 1312702093 138441 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not, since he's not "using the type system". < 1312702099 748833 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have found that analogies can be helpful as well as just listing laws and definitions. < 1312702130 347278 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some cases the laws can be obtuse and not very enlightening if you don't already know how to understand what they reveal. < 1312702132 84292 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, wait… mwh < 1312702135 807471 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*meh < 1312702143 2509 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too tired. Have to be up in two hours < 1312702145 482203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still scared of that unsafeperformIO < 1312702151 493395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like fromJust............................ it's like a hammer................. < 1312702152 207880 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-172.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1312702153 664410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe it is like fromJust < 1312702153 945509 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later < 1312702159 628196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's fromJust's fault, not unsafePerformIO's unfault < 1312702164 511300 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1312702178 835568 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you learned about Maybe? < 1312702185 215533 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd argue fromJust is safer than unsafePerformIO. < 1312702193 913567 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1312702196 479602 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fromJust is as safe as head. < 1312702202 956975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but head isn't safe either < 1312702203 242232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1312702204 286197 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCrashProgram < 1312702204 488749 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :with unsafePerformIO, I can cause segfaults < 1312702205 737687 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone make this < 1312702207 593940 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, right. < 1312702213 256498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: yeah but how wide is the gap :) < 1312702227 423935 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :one can conceivably be caught < 1312702227 663142 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other can't < 1312702229 764534 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use GADTs, but then your list type becomes a bit wordier. < 1312702242 135341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I never said they were literally equal :-P < 1312702254 635964 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unsafePerformIO $ Foreign.Storable.peek nullPtr < 1312702259 463074 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1312702271 108635 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I meant even without foreign stuff < 1312702278 422530 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write unsafeCoerce with unsafePerformIO < 1312702282 940962 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then do your evil coercions < 1312702283 691298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1312702287 829715 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Mmm, yeah, unsafeCoerce manages that. < 1312702290 162459 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never quite understood the purpose of unsafeCoerce... < 1312702292 473782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically unsafeperformio is foreign stuff though < 1312702297 116951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: i've used it < 1312702297 686686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :legitimately < 1312702302 325528 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: It's beating the type system into compliance. < 1312702302 821551 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what does it... do. < 1312702309 19078 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing right? < 1312702309 221560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: nothing < 1312702310 449536 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce :: a -> b < 1312702311 163690 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1312702313 927239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nop < 1312702319 20136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, in GHC < 1312702320 130298 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at runtime anyways. < 1312702322 373279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1312702331 157196 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, that's... weird. < 1312702338 878035 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you use it badly? < 1312702342 549264 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segfault. < 1312702348 102687 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, lovely. < 1312702356 206622 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when would you use it legitimately? < 1312702365 43925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the type system is too dumb < 1312702374 377609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you don't know exactly when you need it, you are not allowed to use it) < 1312702384 130943 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so when elliott is trying to abuse Haskell. < 1312702393 272867 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is when it is permissible. < 1312702400 317117 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "beat the runtime into compliance" button. < 1312702407 56038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes. You are banned for life. < 1312702459 704170 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've done haskell for about 5-6 years now" and he doesn't grok monads. < 1312702460 565800 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit. < 1312702467 72990 :mustelo!~james@c-71-202-182-199.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312702468 642793 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312702469 854644 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's genuinely scary. < 1312702478 240364 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this? < 1312702487 45763 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :some random guy. not worth the trouble, probably. < 1312702494 123092 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN HER < 1312702524 510107 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also doesn't know git well (or at all). < 1312702535 118 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so would this break? unsafeCoerce (a :: Char) :: Word8 < 1312702547 946261 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would break on GHC. < 1312702556 524610 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :since Char represents Unicode characters right? < 1312702562 942386 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think unsafeCoerce (a :: Char) :: Word32 would work, though. < 1312702573 244685 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's doing UTF-32. < 1312702578 493924 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay. < 1312702586 430988 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's probably already a way to do that < 1312702594 400240 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on what "break" means, I suppose. < 1312702608 362934 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meaning of "break" is quite straightforward... < 1312702612 523491 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I don't think it'd actually segfault, it'd just do something strange. < 1312702617 711752 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt treating something as a Word8 would segfault. < 1312702632 491374 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably like casting from int to char, actually. < 1312702641 328482 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what I would imagine. < 1312702926 701705 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fmap (==2) (Just 3) --Taneb < 1312702927 355553 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just False < 1312702939 840437 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fmap (==2) Nothing --Taneb < 1312702940 268147 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Nothing < 1312702963 567007 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Just "War" < 1312702964 135266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just "War" < 1312702967 296221 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric ::smug: < 1312702973 93351 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1312702982 683377 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know haskell was so politically motivated!! < 1312703018 272553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you know what . is that is the KEY TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT I SAID......... < 1312703045 5709 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like "returns" < 1312703054 114749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1312703054 399707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1312703060 482495 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :. is 'wrap the function on the left around the function on the right' < 1312703061 337394 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1312703070 327672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: a Functor f has the function fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1312703071 111791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1312703072 103977 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like brackets except you're not writing all the brackets < 1312703074 452382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Functor has to follow these rules < 1312703087 951526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap f (fmap g x) = fmap (\y -> f (g y)) x < 1312703090 148750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap id x = x < 1312703093 638302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1312703097 134540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: no. < 1312703100 394209 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: that's dollar sign. < 1312703107 155333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop confusing my student >:D < 1312703113 996556 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's . then? < 1312703114 198754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: a Functor f has the function fmap :: (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1312703114 198954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : now < 1312703114 401156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a Functor has to follow these rules < 1312703114 401329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fmap f (fmap g x) = fmap (\y -> f (g y)) x < 1312703114 401430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fmap id x = x < 1312703115 240882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's it < 1312703119 364106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: literally anything that follows these rules is a Functor < 1312703119 566283 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think it would be easier to explain that . is function composition, instead of rewriting everything as lambdas. < 1312703126 229133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for instance, you know Maybe? < 1312703133 396604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe is a functor: fmap :: (a -> b) -> Maybe a -> Maybe b < 1312703146 699012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the maybe value is (Just a), then we do (Just (f a)) < 1312703148 394728 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: . is function composition, by the way. < 1312703151 739134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, the result is just Nothing < 1312703159 369398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this satisfies all the laws (you can check it yourself) < 1312703170 182588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: lists are functors, obviously -- (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1312703177 14435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :([a] is just sugar for [] a) < 1312703180 527998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so f = []) < 1312703181 240238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaand < 1312703181 952698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1312703188 526494 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1312703189 184726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just read the chapter in learn you a haskell :P < 1312703200 705314 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Maybe t = Just t | Nothing < 1312703213 672876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Nothing | Just t actually. < 1312703220 433208 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...does that make a difference? < 1312703232 198181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1312703232 482141 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, for deriving Ord and such? < 1312703240 493546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1312703325 763572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don;t < 1312703345 512077 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you use Maybe t when there's a possibility that you might have Nothing instead of something of type t. Nothing is similar to "null" in other languages, except it's explicitly wrapped in a data type. < 1312703355 250515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You might just want to read LYAH, dude < 1312703364 113438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll be quicker than me and CakeProphet fighting over who can explain things the worst < 1312703367 914969 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312703369 963913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overlappingly :P < 1312703382 138838 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LYAH is lengthy but it's good < 1312703388 303190 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you can't explain haskell consisely < 1312703390 441944 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey you can assault him with formal definitions and I can provide analogy. It'll be a winning combination. < 1312703390 644523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lengthy??/// < 1312703401 506222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is fourteen chapters long < 1312703416 981112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RWH is twenty-eight < 1312703422 956928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it covers a lot more and is good reading after LYAH < 1312703522 735483 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the null analogy was good, right? :( :( :( < 1312703525 440401 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312703555 113626 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1312703561 730231 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Nothing is like null, but proper? < 1312703573 280044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's misleading because Nothing is not a value of every type. < 1312703578 679066 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of, you have to also wrap everything in the Just constructor < 1312703579 115761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's best to forget null and learn Maybe later. < 1312703579 541790 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1312703593 189003 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing is only a value of type Maybe t. < 1312703606 724148 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Just 2 has type Maybe Int < 1312703612 233117 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1312703612 740588 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1312703615 667035 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, not Int. < 1312703620 901619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :know what haskell needs? bitcoins. < 1312703625 833717 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just 'a' has type Maybe Char < 1312703635 117194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: bticons < 1312703638 205930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with prop hets,,, < 1312703639 264910 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one case where qualification makes more clear < 1312703648 239000 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing is of type forall t. Maybe t < 1312703662 203726 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, if you say so. < 1312703701 610444 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so for example, [Just 2, Just 4, Nothing, Just 5] is a valid list, but [2, 4, Nothing, 5] is a type error. < 1312703711 4418 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1312703736 812955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: read lyah read lyah read lyah < 1312703758 611030 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I've finished House of Leaves < 1312703761 126156 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: LYAH < 1312703811 327145 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("LYAH " ++) < 1312703812 777869 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH LYAH... < 1312703819 840158 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lyah < 1312703827 481149 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :about what are we talking, now? < 1312703840 237923 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ("learn you a " ++) ++ "haskell" < 1312703841 691861 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a le... < 1312703844 860016 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb wants to learn himself a Haskell, I take it < 1312703886 756077 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for great good, most likely. < 1312703893 273 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: are you aware of repeat < 1312703899 161713 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. < 1312703903 92190 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like fix. < 1312703906 246269 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also repeat is not what I wanted. < 1312703908 521429 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like cycle. < 1312703926 836828 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, repeat's the more specific one though < 1312703933 935651 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 500 (cycle "learn you a ") < 1312703934 650262 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a learn you a le... < 1312703945 548354 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that that's estabilished, C418's Minecraft - Volume Alpha is wonderful. < 1312703969 737188 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what do you mean the more specific one? < 1312703978 137351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: didn't you listen to it when it came out............................ < 1312704026 5660 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeat a = fix (a:); cycle a = fix (a ++) < 1312704028 291583 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1312704039 800385 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I wanted cycle from repeat, I would have to say join . repeat < 1312704057 401806 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is less specific... I think? I'm still not sure what you mean by that. < 1312704058 779038 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: When it came out I didn't play Minecraft. < 1312704064 618909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: true.... < 1312704069 530578 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src cycle < 1312704069 733424 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle [] = undefined < 1312704069 936016 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle xs = xs' where xs' = xs ++ xs' < 1312704078 593503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix . mplus < 1312704079 164366 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a. (MonadPlus m) => m a -> m a < 1312704084 846951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah which one is monoid again :) < 1312704086 477076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?src Monoid < 1312704086 679857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Monoid a where < 1312704086 680031 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mempty :: a < 1312704086 680133 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mappend :: a -> a -> a < 1312704086 680231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mconcat :: [a] -> a < 1312704097 21023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (\x -> 'a':x) < 1312704097 732114 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show < 1312704097 934367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([GHC.... < 1312704100 293854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (\x -> 'a':x) [] < 1312704101 691236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... < 1312704103 519698 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1312704106 380928 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1312704106 583200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice function instance < 1312704134 527253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (fix . mappend) < 1312704135 120808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (a -> a) < 1312704135 322817 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `... < 1312704140 483891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (fix . mappend) (\x -> 'a':x ++ "b") [] < 1312704141 882900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababab... < 1312704145 393628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1312704146 913927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful... < 1312704150 142872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (fix . mappend) (\x -> 'a':x ++ "b") "a" < 1312704151 523012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaabaa... < 1312704156 412090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (\x -> 'a':x) "abc" < 1312704157 711353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaa... < 1312704160 994022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so beautiful... < 1312704162 989813 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, uh, beautiful. that's the word, elliott. < 1312704164 130551 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that. < 1312704192 631678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix . mappend) (\x -> pure 'a' `mappend` x) "abc" < 1312704194 100435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaabcaa... < 1312704200 263528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (fix . mappend) (\x -> pure 'a' `mappend` x) < 1312704200 832389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *). (Monoid (f Char), Applicative f) => f Char -> f Char < 1312704207 825115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautetauetouyoiful........... < 1312704224 296823 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so many ways to spam. generally. < 1312704284 250983 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1312704331 247798 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "abc" >>- (fix . mappend . return) < 1312704333 375965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacab... < 1312704348 843253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sOB EUATEIFUL < 1312704354 555997 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :interleavened like bread. < 1312704358 823675 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric ://win 6 < 1312704402 340440 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appeals to my sense of baking. < 1312704419 315719 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "abc" >>- (fix . mappend . pure) < 1312704420 782565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacabacab... < 1312704422 885957 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now with less typing. < 1312704454 635605 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that String sure is constraining. < 1312704470 399963 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromString "abc" >>- (fix . mappend . pure) < 1312704471 107981 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `fromString' < 1312704491 639446 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :overloadedstrings? < 1312704524 252917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: DONT REMIND HIM < 1312704530 935227 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never forgot. < 1312704548 165415 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, like I said, they should have known better when they made it an extension. < 1312704555 733497 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1312704556 719258 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead < 1312704564 394693 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are naive. < 1312704581 890256 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the perverse machinations of dark wizard programmers. < 1312704614 447182 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but overloadedstrings abuse is so < 1312704615 161904 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1312704621 334331 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not abuse something fun < 1312704636 887486 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the least < 1312704643 814704 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You shouldn't be a dark wizard programmer. < 1312704652 488347 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could be more fun than arbitrary and unsafe programming language interpretation? < 1312704667 971478 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing good, clean code that functions correctly. < 1312704692 658584 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a monad instance that doesn't obey the monad laws < 1312704707 200279 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Haskell could sorely use a Sh newtype with an IsString instance... < 1312704773 320675 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it would even be safe and return the error output upon unsuccessful execution! < 1312704808 993053 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"safe" < 1312704846 185799 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it did bad things first.... < 1312704859 938383 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, runtime errors are awful < 1312704867 378317 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand this notion of "bad" < 1312704872 796630 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't be stupid catch things at compile time" < 1312704878 383699 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, don't think of as runtime error, just unexpected output! < 1312706907 292259 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't think of it as a runtime error, think of it as a surprise birthday party." < 1312708165 179859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312708504 487046 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-28.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1312708724 299233 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1312709328 84058 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-248.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312709334 226314 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-28.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1312709371 210755 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1312710673 747906 :mrcrabs!~scrunchyu@121-73-26-142.cable.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312710970 241667 :mrcrabs!~scrunchyu@121-73-26-142.cable.telstraclear.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1312711690 892493 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312711777 509871 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now there are two MSPAFA's in the MSPA Forums called PixelQuest < 1312711791 507570 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least < 1312711868 727240 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \maxIters c = len $ takeWhile (\x -> (magnitude x)<2) $ take maxIters $ iterate (\x -> x*x+c) $ 0 :+ 0 < 1312711868 929485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 13): < 1312711868 929645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected "=" < 1312711868 929745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting pattern or "->" < 1312711873 478522 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \maxIters c -> len $ takeWhile (\x -> (magnitude x)<2) $ take maxIters $ iterate (\x -> x*x+c) $ 0 :+ 0 < 1312711873 681005 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :((len . takeWhile ((< 2) . magnitude)) .) . (. flip (iterate . (. join (*)) . (+)) (0 :+ 0)) . take < 1312711876 971965 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Can someone explain the Brane theory to me? < 1312712073 866095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are breanes,, but sometimes they dont think < 1312712075 403290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ned??? < 1312712116 18423 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle unsafeCoerceIO < 1312712116 304438 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1312712130 748695 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle IO a -> a < 1312712130 951328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign unsafePerformIO :: IO a -> a < 1312712130 951509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.ByteString.Internal inlinePerformIO :: IO a -> a < 1312712130 951618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :System.IO.Unsafe unsafePerformIO :: IO a -> a < 1312712137 16116 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wrong name < 1312712169 20917 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not using it < 1312712173 836042 :Lymee!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nope < 1312712175 168138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it's... generally best to let physics well alone unless you're trying to actually learn it. < 1312712209 32820 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You run the risk of ending up with an understanding of things which isn't really true, but more understandable. < 1312712225 190465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1312712225 820731 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For this, that is exactly what I need < 1312712251 901619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1312712311 336538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, in which case it seems to be along the lines of "there are objects called branes and other objects are really just branes in disguise." < 1312712351 741199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :brane wearing a moustache < 1312712370 591707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, will suggest to Stephen Hawking for his next book. < 1312712382 74543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :stephen moustacheking < 1312712386 332103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brane < 1312712389 343303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Universe in a Nutshell is full of quirky little illustrations like that.) < 1312712541 781047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think we need to ban the word "quirky". < 1312712556 556957 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree < 1312712575 640654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1312712584 1606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no, we need to ban terrible people from using it and ruining it for the rest of us. < 1312712595 37672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is already ruined < 1312712601 716973 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be restored < 1312712605 342336 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To its former glory < 1312713818 361768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think flange might be my favourite word. < 1312713906 610760 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois and anti-proletarian." < 1312713933 623404 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you hate the bourgeoisie *and* the proletarians? < 1312714217 966592 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fascism is anti-fascism < 1312714219 885037 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the cos function < 1312714409 960068 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a photon < 1312714600 329350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD0EztnNOhk < 1312714601 599133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1312714621 367157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, so wait, fascism is a Majorana ideology? < 1312714909 244640 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1312715113 333061 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1312715381 186080 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1312716109 134004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePhantomHoover < 1312716111 147417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaaaat < 1312716339 413690 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1312716399 37963 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1312716429 645834 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh, I now have a hit on ESR's website WHAT HAVE I BECOME < 1312716452 170923 :itidus20!~itidus20@c210-49-78-148.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1312716750 377240 :itidus20!~itidus20@c210-49-78-148.dandn3.vic.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1312716841 643277 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-26.elisa.ee QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1312717017 175639 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1312717182 499765 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312717717 918492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1312717721 199071 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :5) GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. < 1312718021 497484 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1312718173 80387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The recent 'Halo' game has an interesting perspective on the construction of ringworlds. Instead of making it massive enough to encircle a star, make it the same diameter as earth. Here is my idea: < 1312718173 283157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1312718175 218736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C2 < 1312718177 35390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU IDIOTS < 1312718179 799333 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALO < 1312718186 382855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAS EXPLICITLY INSPIRED < 1312718191 267980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY BANKS' ORBITALS < 1312718439 650825 :cheater__!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1312718584 326907 :cheater_!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1312718822 941943 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, there are 3 different banks in Scotland which print banknotes. < 1312718833 282719 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not unreasonable to think of recursion and induction as equivalent, is it? < 1312718840 208449 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How many of them have orbitals? < 1312718859 858380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy, dunno, but RBS has pretty snazzy headquarters. < 1312718906 819935 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: induction is effectively recursive logic < 1312718926 380046 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, then. I'm glad I haven't just been imagining that < 1312718958 394016 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy, suggest you look into Coq. < 1312718983 465394 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my plan. Agda, too, but mostly just for shits and giggles < 1312719022 231613 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, apparently Scotland doesn't have legal tender at all. < 1312719033 517612 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll have a run through Concrete Mathematics to test them out < 1312719084 128315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, NI has 4 kinds of note. < 1312719341 403129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Roman-calendar.png < 1312719347 990529 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This... this is the best calendar. < 1312719820 943654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, they had leap months too < 1312720219 796907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My attempt to make lambda calculus easy in BYOB is working! < 1312720246 339564 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYOB? < 1312720258 802613 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Back later < 1312720303 220412 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modification of a programming language aimed at children with the purpose of educating about first-class functions, recursions, etc. for people aged 7-12 < 1312720328 685092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean that crappy Scratch thing? < 1312720335 539421 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1312720348 890940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was turned against Scratch waaay back.) < 1312720354 857396 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1312720368 441374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was given the option between learning Pascal, and learning Scratch. < 1312720373 521383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1312720386 839133 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scratch forced me into the arms of Pascal. I can never forgive it. < 1312720476 115046 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly, Scratch is descended from Lisp < 1312720517 520279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bears no resembalence to it < 1312720769 821350 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've just cocked it up big time < 1312720814 901091 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes you have. < 1312720958 868879 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-58.elisa.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1312720961 698325 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hosted a java enterprise BYOB party. Bring Your Own Beans < 1312720981 270499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, out of curiosity, what did you cock up? < 1312721054 154484 :derrik!~xix@gprs-inet-65-58.elisa.ee PART :#esoteric < 1312721059 72887 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BYOB < 1312721065 223944 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It froze < 1312721085 158170 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I tried to evaluate something < 1312721444 366325 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/jbhpp/how_does_one_program_a_programming_language/ < 1312721527 602531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-89-246.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the stupidest of questions < 1312721566 79521 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But close! < 1312721633 710114 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about 'how do you compile a compiler' < 1312721660 630665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an answer dealing with it but... it refers to C++ as a high-level language. < 1312721702 632697 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared to punch cards it's very high level < 1312721731 530004 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punch cards being a higher level than manual configuration < 1312721745 474449 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :punch cards are just an input method, not a language < 1312721753 978273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :put C++ on punch cards, you still have C++ < 1312721776 635114 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't my computer have a punch card reader? this is outrageous < 1312721779 418937 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't even read a floppy < 1312721835 850236 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a scanner? just put some black paper behind the card, scan it, then read the blacks and whites from the picture < 1312721847 26425 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1312721848 866682 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming white punch cards) < 1312721901 680639 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how will I emulate the ability of a lace card to jam it then > 1312736411 221922 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312736412 690300 :glogbot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312736413 682610 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312736423 178476 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally. > 1312744117 255272 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744117 945584 :glogbot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744118 806521 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 PART :#esoteric < 1312744120 359379 :HackEgo!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744121 193618 :EgoBot!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744147 289106 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744156 591237 :Gregor!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Guest69881 < 1312744604 179401 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-87-158.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312744606 752535 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-87-158.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1312744628 194535 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good day < 1312745232 415572 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have these 3D movie glasses, I realized that when looking at the computer screen through it, it changes the color based on not only the angle but also whether or not it is backwards < 1312745294 906214 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forwards the angle changes yellow/blue. Backwards the angle changes light/dark. (This is even without wearing the glasses) < 1312745327 846827 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1312745598 730497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-87-158.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Polaroid glasses, I presume? < 1312745778 907675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312745810 653288 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312745822 92411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I did something I should have done ages ago < 1312745825 569336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mapped Caps Lock to Compose < 1312745846 493102 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you use Compose enough to make that worthwhile? < 1312745913 198151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but only because I don't have a Compose key < 1312745923 359426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect I will now, I type nonASCII characters quite a lot < 1312745943 377740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, annoyingly, KDE programs don't seem to respect the keybinding < 1312746099 911143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably need to add new compositions to it, though < 1312746107 647184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems a little short on things like mathematical characters < 1312746132 554395 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a mirror to see what can be done with the 3D movie glasses, the computer screen, and the mirror, together. < 1312746546 957088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wait, you didn't use something to the right of the spacebar? < 1312746569 904139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have backslash, menu, and control there < 1312746573 213512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered mapping it to menu < 1312746585 765465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I actually use that one sometimes < 1312746749 435259 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caps-lock to control is a traditional remapping. < 1312746758 364155 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would free control for compose. < 1312746771 979991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I find control in a more convenient place than caps lock < 1312746823 597846 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do I, but presumably many people think capslock is easier to reach. < 1312746860 275866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because most people keep their fingers on the home row, and caps lock is quite easy to reach from there < 1312746870 175209 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then where do you want caps lock to be? < 1312747066 71616 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've swapped caps lock and backspace < 1312747116 970720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1312747124 888293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose backspace is a bit of a long way away < 1312747142 138789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but normally when I'm pressing backspace, it's because I've made a typo, so I need to stop and recentre my fingers anyway < 1312747163 673003 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a Japanese keyboard so my backspace is smaller < 1312747174 653728 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your space is teensy. < 1312747175 881008 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did the switch before getting such a keyboard anyway < 1312747206 353283 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The space bar is fine, its edges are right where I always hit it < 1312747243 93071 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'mean you always hit it under v or n? You have freakish hands. < 1312747261 143787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spacebar goes from halfway past c to n < 1312747266 127985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halfway along < 1312747278 999818 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Japanese keyboards have extra keys on that row, so the space bar is tiny. < 1312747282 287826 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from halfway along c to halfway along m here < 1312747290 113120 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or thereabouts < 1312747290 592262 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in some keyboard the "rub out" key is in the home row for that purpose < 1312747292 4375 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, reaching from half of v to half of n. tiny. < 1312747292 858292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: this keyboard has ` and \ on that row < 1312747305 16939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as two alts, two controls, menu, fn, and super < 1312747306 839266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the arrow keys < 1312747345 513095 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/MacBookProJISKeyboard-1.jpg < 1312747352 584963 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has a *generously large* spacebar. < 1312747382 761221 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a tiny keyboard < 1312747390 830751 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a laptop keyboard. < 1312747401 595528 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1312747419 763813 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Japanese_keyboards.jpg These ones are a bit more typical. < 1312747436 323461 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't use spaces much in japanese < 1312747475 977155 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine has this layout http://www.diatec.co.jp/image_prod/FKBN91MCJB2_01.jpg < 1312747512 160716 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: The space bar on Japanese computers is used to request IME conversion. < 1312747516 562936 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's rather extensively used. < 1312747522 573842 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1312747548 827702 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-157-186.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :About as much in English, in fact. < 1312747632 922616 :Taneb!~nathan@host-84-13-87-158.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1312747886 916996 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I have five pins: data-in, data-out, clock, power, ground; what is the best way to wire it on a RJ-45 cable? < 1312747995 586318 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At a range of 1 to 40 feet < 1312748345 645732 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know of a known name for this modulus branching machine i've been finding when generalizing my 3-cell bf algorithm < 1312748423 172434 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say it's described by k tuples (a1,b1,c1), ... , (ak,bk,ck), ai > 0, bi >= 0, ci \in {0,1} < 1312748501 462755 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does f n = case n `divMod` k of (x,i) -> if c i then f (a i * x + b i) else a i * x + b i < 1312748559 626605 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ai and bi are natural numbers) < 1312748570 706723 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um *if c i == 1 < 1312748673 983717 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically each step does a linear function dependent on the modulus, and may halt or not < 1312748860 684912 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously too simple not to have been invented before, but i don't find any promising search results < 1312748910 756148 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why is there swedish sex spam on the wiki. < 1312748948 539916 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know answers of my question? < 1312748971 647353 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one knows any answers here. < 1312748978 180717 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidence: see above < 1312749066 276970 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which channel do they know the answers? < 1312749215 68310 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid we don't know the answer to that either. #omniscience appears to be empty. < 1312749357 963194 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.archive.org/details/Tags12345-ATHEISMISSOFOOLISH922-2 < 1312749408 845219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think there is a best way to wire an RJ-45 cable like that, because it's not intended for that sort of signal and doesn't have dedicated power lines < 1312749419 880007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all eight of its wires are identical, and the pinout won't be compatible no matter what you do < 1312749421 539212 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My idea is so that it can work with common network cables even though the protocol (and maybe even the power) is different. < 1312749426 4520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you may as well just use an arbitrary assignment < 1312749440 163138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work with common network cables, because RJ-45 doesn't have a clock line nor power lines < 1312749455 515583 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be better to pair certain signals? < 1312749456 909220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses twisted pair logic levels < 1312749526 448133 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. However such cables are just very common, which is why I want to use them. It is not intended to be connected to any network device < 1312749583 726215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't going to be able to be compatible, and you aren't using paired logic levels < 1312749595 180695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say, put data-in, data-out, clock all in different pairs, to try to avoid crosstalk < 1312749610 765102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then put power in the fourth, and connect ground to the other side of all four of them < 1312749620 347245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll mostly prevent the manufacture of the cable hurting < 1312749639 205878 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the idea. OK. < 1312749670 292951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not going to get 40 feet like that unless the clock rate is pretty slow, though < 1312749679 935813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor any other way < 1312749696 128723 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How slow? I don't need it very fast, so maybe it is OK. < 1312749712 148487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I'm no good at that calculation < 1312749716 588428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilohertz are probably OK, though < 1312749723 409429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at a guess < 1312749734 615972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :megahertz, I have no idea < 1312749761 795958 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I need more than 4 kHz, and even that might be faster than I need. < 1312749781 339599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'll probably be OK < 1312749950 7580 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK thanks for information < 1312750540 248926 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (mappend.($)) < 1312750550 568864 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1312750594 997314 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has Diaspora fixed its security issues yet? < 1312750645 580149 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :tater < 1312750651 377976 :tater!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1312750753 690411 :mtve!~mtve@65.98.99.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312751511 537324 :cheater__!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, you'll take each of the leads (data in, data out, clock, power) on a separate pair each, and then each of those pairs is hooked up to ground < 1312751539 916951 :cheater__!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure not to put power on the weaker pair (i believe that's brown, there's one pair that is thinner) < 1312751554 805456 :cheater__!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably use that for clock then < 1312751759 829842 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's almost even on-topic here... there was a rather funky piece of hardware on the next table at this demoparty I was; the "Speccy2010". To quote the summary: "It’s a Spectrum clone developed in the Ukraine, which replicates the original 48 and 128K Spectrums -- built around an FPGA programmable logic chip which can be reflashed with new firmware versions --"; so it's basically a general-purpose FPGA thingie that comes preloaded with a speccy simulator. < 1312751817 991423 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater__: Thanks for that advice too. (I didn't know there was a weaker pair) < 1312751869 922373 :cheater__!~ubuntu@g229128013.adsl.alicedsl.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they stopped doing that in cat 5e < 1312751938 348484 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I read your A{80} as an answer to the :t, and thought "well that's a curious type". < 1312751984 759406 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the type of a lambdabot absence < 1312752061 229660 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have Haskell installed just use that < 1312752135 692689 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-11-248.tn.glocalnet.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1312752148 776866 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has a list of USB device classes. I propose adding class 90h for Plan 9 Protocol. < 1312752192 128313 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1312752238 482117 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, because i was trying to find out lambdabot's weird mappend instance for functions < 1312752259 36418 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not believe there is a standard one < 1312752282 42348 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is lambdabot difference from standard? Is it possible to download a local version of lambdabot? < 1312752284 466608 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, i could also use EgoBot sometimes < 1312752326 440686 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mempty is identity function and mappend is function composition? < 1312752332 192570 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: lambdabot has a lot of extra or weird definitions and instances. for example it defines (.) = fmap < 1312752351 303463 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's what it looked like, but it's not the only possibility < 1312752366 905817 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also have Monoid b => Monoid (a -> b) < 1312752380 142901 :monqy!~chap@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1312752390 821240 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lambdabot has many other instances of that form, like for Num < 1312752394 296175 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do you know if it is possible to download a local version of the program? < 1312752442 582002 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. yes it is possible to download lambdabot, and i think even to use it from inside ghci. but i've not tried it myself, and istr people complaining that it is awkward sometime in the past < 1312752443 195103 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1312752466 749718 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1312752468 615085 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you probably need linux for it < 1312752488 972371 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's also something istr) < 1312752551 672031 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1312752561 551607 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be compiled for Cygwin or other UNIX systems other than Linux? < 1312752580 921960 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. check the online documentation. < 1312752601 198105 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hopefully there is some.) < 1312752637 770643 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they've reworked some of lambdabot since my #haskell time. < 1312752777 290781 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Lambdabot < 1312752791 344382 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it looks like it's not up to date on ghc versions < 1312752815 354480 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ghc is on version 7 now) < 1312752982 430909 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1312753084 848101 :CakeProphet!~adam@h235.46.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312753094 809422 :CakeProphet!~adam@h235.46.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1312753094 881684 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1312753458 156639 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambdabot includes Unlambda and Brainfuck, but does it include Lazy-K? < 1312753477 663673 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not unless you make a plugin for it < 1312753482 254490 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should think < 1312753541 393942 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a better question is whether or not it should. < 1312753568 487897 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the unlambda and brainfuck plugins are not that heavily used < 1312753621 977386 :CakeProphet!~adam@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1312753678 670526 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a .lhs file that uses .lhs so that it can include a #! line < 1312753776 295971 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.augustsson.net/Darcs/Djinn/Setup.lhs < 1312753806 697577 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although from what I have read, I don't think that is valid, because a blank line is required before the > line < 1312754031 223371 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1312754160 589088 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1312755732 991959 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1312756270 332896 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1312756378 789354 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1312756504 316796 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, elliott update < 1312756519 531100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what's he up to now? < 1312756533 706915 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1312756560 789926 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1312756580 492546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, c'mon, don't keep oerjan waiting! < 1312756598 322278 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, my mind is full of fuck < 1312756706 808665 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1312757178 938636 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1312757191 458328 :variable!~thing@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1312757868 817108 :Guest69881!Gregor@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1312759386 331398 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1312759561 927459 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1312759920 54378 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1312759954 964787 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1312760511 405652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1312760523 649547 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t mappend.($) < 1312760529 239136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b. (Monoid b) => (a -> b) -> (a -> b) -> a -> b < 1312760555 387012 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha so it _was_ the same kind as the Num thing < 1312760632 715888 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat [show . length, head] "test" < 1312760635 163375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Types.Char' < 1312760635 328858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type... < 1312760637 204893 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1312760644 696655 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1312760650 554302 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat [show . length, take 1] "test" < 1312760654 354210 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1312760657 615462 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1312760667 381533 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat [show . length, take 1] "test" < 1312760669 695339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "4t" < 1312760762 632009 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (mconcat [show . length, take 1] <=< group) "1" < 1312760764 140434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["1","11","21","1211","111221","312211","13112221","1113213211","3113121113... < 1312760806 872139 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (sequence [length, head] <=< group) [1] < 1312760807 639564 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[1],[1,1],[2,1],[1,2,1,1],[1,1,1,2,2,1],[3,1,2,2,1,1],[1,3,1,1,2,2,2,1],[1... < 1312760961 389523 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1312761014 8888 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1312761115 531345 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1312761135 988784 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1312761398 854239 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Computer Modern or AMS symbol should I use to represent the = in Haskell? < 1312761408 395100 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net PRIVMSG #esoteric := < 1312761489 565885 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the equal sign for the Haskell == instead since that is the one testing equality, so == print out using the equal sign. < 1312761554 527467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should probably use the define-equal symbol < 1312761564 615499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what it's called in the fonts < 1312761569 937657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it looks like an = with "def" or a triangle above it