< 1318032098 379418 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I was just using the wrong encoding. < 1318032118 2478 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes a monad is described as an abstract datatype of actions, but I don't think that's what it is. At least, not in general; the IO monad is. But monads are a lot of things, though. < 1318032144 325069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: you mean... you were not using sed to encode your perl scripts? < 1318032145 475514 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes that description is just an analogy used to introduce the concept. < 1318032149 555836 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no. < 1318032215 914404 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: weird you < 1318032231 219004 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I feel that >>= gives monads many similarities to continuations, in effect. < 1318032242 661091 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, but I don't think it is a very good analogy, except possibly for describing a use of do-notation. < 1318032260 719065 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes I agree. < 1318032314 424566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1318032315 753385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1318032322 525756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only correct description of monads as used in Haskell is the Monad type class < 1318032335 843560 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and associated laws. < 1318032364 738684 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: I suppose there are some. But a monad can be defined without (>>=) (except that Haskell requires it), you can make up (>>=) from join and fmap. < 1318032371 425291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the laws are secondary to the understanding of monads < 1318032396 680473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know any of the laws (afaik) but think I have a pretty good idea how to use monads < 1318032408 271402 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but often, in teaching, it's not enough to simply "okay these are the formal properties and laws of x, now you are enlightened!" < 1318032434 914541 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are different forms of the laws depending on which way you have defined the monad, if you follow the laws correctly in one form, it works in the other ways too. < 1318032444 888468 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the analogy of actions is perfect or particularly good, but does describe a particular problem that monads can be used for. < 1318032452 210303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the laws are really trivial < 1318032455 115028 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as you can have a Kleisli category, meaning that you can form a category. < 1318032464 873569 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes, it does describe one use of monads. < 1318032477 809078 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't doubt that, but I still don't know them :) < 1318032505 568660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: < 1318032506 154051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Left identity": return >=> g ≡ g < 1318032506 301564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Right identity": f >=> return ≡ f < 1318032506 301728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Associativity": (f >=> g) >=> h ≡ f >=> (g >=> h) < 1318032538 718506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or more conventionally < 1318032539 205203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Left identity": return a >>= f ≡ f a < 1318032539 352483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Right identity": m >>= return ≡ m < 1318032539 499282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Associativity": (m >>= f) >>= g ≡ m >>= (\x -> f x >>= g) < 1318032550 237914 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah kleisli composition is a nice way to see them. < 1318032559 648790 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the lambda + bind form is confusing or anything. < 1318032606 809129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop using analogies for monads, they are too simple to benefit from shady analogies < 1318032631 172945 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :moands are spacesuits. < 1318032632 628154 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... or get stuck in the world of burritos and crepes < 1318032637 751428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: wheres,e the analogies, < 1318032639 106451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, < 1318032705 138056 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think they were before < 1318032711 167695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1318032715 63789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they weren't < 1318032717 704988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip rip rip < 1318032721 439256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripped < 1318032722 215842 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like magic boxes that you can transmute with alchemy, but you're ultimately bound by the rules of the specific box as well as the rules of all boxes. < 1318032733 672417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are like governments............................. < 1318032755 738414 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are also like herp derp, and like python and rooby < 1318032778 525617 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure that return >=> g is a left identity, or is return <=< g is a left identity? < 1318032800 999576 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? no. < 1318032819 783066 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Well, that is a *slightly* better analogy than the others, at least, in my opinion. < 1318032845 989263 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is still pretty bad. < 1318032846 181520 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's sufficiently vague and captures all of the main points... vaguely. < 1318032864 314146 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: Yes, that is why I said it is a slightly better than the others! < 1318032961 907596 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :some boxes cheat and DEVOUR MATHEMATICIANS' SOULS TO CREATE EVIL SIDE-EFFECTS. < 1318032968 528807 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and others are very benign. < 1318033014 817231 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I think my analogy is breaking down here. < 1318033164 956373 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318033169 160128 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just bought a caffeinated beverage < 1318033175 350224 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is filled with nitrous oxide < 1318033181 644075 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why they do this? I don't know. But it tastes good. < 1318033183 956475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1318033209 531733 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at article about Kleisli category in Wikipedia, and I can make the same thing described there in Haskell. < 1318033213 418299 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematics: $g\circ_T f = \mu_Z \circ Tg \circ f$ < 1318033228 347179 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you should make a programming language. call it Mathematics. < 1318033233 770555 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell: g <=< f = join . fmap g . f < 1318033268 292052 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? It is the same thing. < 1318033381 1906 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you have the power. < 1318033389 499553 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to turn the maths into the codes. < 1318033551 934883 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318033690 984271 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1318033711 141669 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8B2DE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318033827 962235 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318033874 769752 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :/media/Elements/googledata$ cat googlebooks-eng-all-1gram-20090715-*.csv | grep -P "^.*'s\t" | wc -l < 1318033877 779941 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :14660847 < 1318033880 276014 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1318033916 649534 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that counts duplicate entries. < 1318033928 860590 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not quite accurate. < 1318034022 129897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC (phoronix.com) < 1318034023 282013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. < 1318034030 832836 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1318034039 271068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Gregor: ;DDDD < 1318034050 470434 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is d bad i've never payed any attention at all to d < 1318034053 411749 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at all) < 1318034116 61214 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I know: it exists, it is a programming language, one time I wanted to compile something made in D and I couldn't do it because of reasons I am forgetting, ?????? < 1318034167 893572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I think have a Concurrency Issue. < 1318034195 883194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, or do I < 1318034412 474280 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: quick use message passing or STM. < 1318034417 257329 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :magically < 1318034420 19964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already am using STM. < 1318034424 61283 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wave your wand. oh okay. < 1318034425 168018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Message passing is a joke. < 1318034435 369310 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than many alternatives... < 1318034466 752438 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of being easy to not fuck up. < 1318034482 415579 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily on increasing uh, concurrency. < 1318034702 143410 :DH____!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1318034839 161000 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1318034898 103311 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the successor monad similar to the maybe monad? < 1318034958 432252 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "Security System Breached" mean? < 1318035013 426020 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When trying to send a message I get the error message ":pratchett.freenode.net 301 zzo38 ski :Security System Breached" < 1318035068 889264 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :.google "Security System Breached" IRC < 1318035073 872748 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :^google "Security System Breached" IRC < 1318035077 310071 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google "Security System Breached" IRC < 1318035079 604364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: 301 is an away message. < 1318035080 449828 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:c < 1318035080 897857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.utica.edu/academic/institutes/cimip/mediacenter/itnews.cfm < 1318035081 163659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Identity Theft News < 1318035156 664265 :hoppecl!~clemens@i59F51D67.versanet.de QUIT :Quit: BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it. < 1318035664 567227 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318035722 247090 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318036080 74865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who gets to debug my possible concurrency issue???? WHO IS THE LUCKY WINNER < 1318036165 675015 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: D is not a *terrible* language, but it has serious issues in the toolchain. < 1318036176 743956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pikhq_! pikhq_ is the lucky winner! < 1318036194 6738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :addPlayer st player = do < 1318036194 193166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : (entityID:xs, m) <- readTVar (serverPlayers st) < 1318036194 193349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : writeTVar (serverPlayers st) (xs, HM.insert entityID player m) < 1318036194 193455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : return entityID < 1318036200 419138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :serverPlayers :: ServerState -> TVar ([EntityID], HashMap EntityID Player) < 1318036211 888348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a race condition here with other threads accessing the players???? :| < 1318036216 213198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, writing to the map < 1318036227 509647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think as long as everything is done through addPlayer and a hypothetical delPlayer it's fine < 1318036239 701705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where delPlayer adds the entity ID back on to the head of the list and removes from the map) < 1318036243 42613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I AM NOT SURE < 1318036266 721125 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything should be fine with STM. < 1318036283 706934 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you race when your only actions are atomic transactions? < 1318036308 603615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With great difficulty :P < 1318036317 166117 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No kidding. < 1318036433 597459 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways: you're not going to see any races with mutations in STM. < 1318036576 648897 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: I don't know if this is still the case, but it at least *used* to be that D had two incompatible standard libraries. < 1318036588 289495 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: It was actually impossible to have them both installed on the same system. < 1318036611 744628 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And both were equally commonly used. < 1318036616 956878 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf8 "\xEA" does not map to Unicode at ./construct_grams.pl line 16, <$f> line 3 < 1318036620 300540 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1318036623 298065 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thinkI need 5.14 < 1318036634 298177 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get full Unicode support. < 1318036641 337445 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe it doesn't matter... < 1318036649 397307 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory '\xEA' < 1318036650 262488 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : LowercaseLetter < 1318036652 826888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you're just doing it wrong < 1318036663 569622 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how would that be? < 1318037085 983628 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318037230 795869 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318037290 207348 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, plz debug my code blindly < 1318037294 290115 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's essentially what I'm asking. < 1318037296 400424 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, demanding. < 1318037299 359474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus why I didn't reply < 1318037340 298100 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the problem is that < 1318037344 920993 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :use feature "unicode_strings" < 1318037348 819058 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is only avaialble in 5.14 < 1318037378 178947 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :without it, it just treats bytes in the range 128-255 (I think) as just byte values < 1318037381 282825 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not unicode. < 1318037420 307740 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm pretty sure I just need to get 5.14, or ignore the warning and see if it doesn't matter... < 1318037442 326634 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the only thing I'm really doing that's unicode related is testing to see if they're numeric. < 1318037464 683121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're implying that no Perl version before 5.14 supports Unicode at all. < 1318037472 432367 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not quite. < 1318037474 647280 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that < 1318037474 795038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should read the SO question some more. < 1318037477 938894 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not complete until 5.14 < 1318037484 644395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let Deewiant handle this one < 1318037527 632390 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually 5.12 is minimum for unicode strings. < 1318037554 654402 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yes... I'm saying complete Unicode support doesn't exist until either 5.12 or 5.14 < 1318037571 262364 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other Unicode things have been around before that. < 1318037597 585306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are really obviously wrong. < 1318037609 282471 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, no I am literally saying < 1318037609 882052 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1318037614 845741 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :use feature "unicode_strings"; < 1318037618 663842 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is not available until 5.12 < 1318037621 785971 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is obviously correct. < 1318037626 678869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1318037627 9807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1318037628 185914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are saying < 1318037628 663946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : so, yes... I'm saying complete Unicode support doesn't exist until either 5.12 or 5.14 < 1318037628 830169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : but other Unicode things have been around before that. < 1318037636 229206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you are using to justify < 1318037639 682132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I can't do this without a newer Perl" < 1318037641 490726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is horseshit < 1318037646 312073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance < 1318037651 855137 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not /certain/ I can do it with this Perl. < 1318037659 358931 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not matter. < 1318037662 639300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I see lots of room for improvement in the cited utf8::all module. It was written before the unicode_strings feature, which Fɪɴᴀʟʟʏ ᴀɴᴅ ᴀᴛ Lᴏɴɢ Lᴀsᴛ fixes regexes to have a /u on them." < 1318037666 900388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let's go over to perlre < 1318037680 407926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a, d, l and u < 1318037680 554505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :These modifiers, new in 5.14, affect which character-set semantics (Unicode, ASCII, etc.) are used, as described below in Character set modifiers. < 1318037689 410295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html#Character-set-modifiers < 1318037698 329155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So all unicode_strings gets you in the area of regexps is things like \w changing < 1318037705 849530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is irrelevant if you don't use things like \w < 1318037747 140522 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code points between 128–255 should be understood by 🐪 to be the corresponding Unicode code points, not just unpropertied binary values. use feature "unicode_strings" or export PERL5OPTS=-Mfeature=unicode_strings. That will make uc("\xDF") eq "SS" and "\xE9" =~ /\w/. A simple export PERL5OPTS=-Mv5.12 or better will also get that. < 1318037752 245867 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is kind of what I was going off of. < 1318037759 43756 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is still irrelevant, you're correct. < 1318037768 298117 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-153-125.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318037867 15055 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: really I think I fixed my initial problem when I did use open qw( :encoding(UTF-8) :std ); < 1318037874 606764 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes file IO UTF-8 encoded. < 1318037887 688222 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah... I'm about to find out < 1318037896 402693 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(after I afk for a while) < 1318038038 628530 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should either copy the TeX form I have in my website and/or make a program that takes a in MediaWiki and automatically uploads an image with a name corresponding to what is typed in so that the results can be cached (if you need to invalidate the cache, you can delete that file) < 1318038306 528707 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1318038457 465319 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Merging In The GNU D Language Compiler To GCC (phoronix.com) // huh? < 1318038471 74399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Apparently Digital Mars are trying to get gdc into gcc :P < 1318038489 425708 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I knew, Digital Mars doesn't give one flying fuck about gdc. < 1318038509 342653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk2NA < 1318038511 147877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You last knew wrong < 1318038545 519970 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I last new out-of-date is more like it :P < 1318038567 789980 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an ideal world, a canonical gdc could improve the state of D. < 1318038577 702322 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly by massively overpowering all non-GCC competition. < 1318038581 976568 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an ideal world, anyway. < 1318038797 87665 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: New out-of-date? < 1318038798 969811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old news. < 1318038831 571667 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eh* < 1318038833 711996 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't English. < 1318038918 472106 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital Mars' involvement would be necessary for a GDC merge, since the FSF has copyright assignment policies. So. :) < 1318038953 508327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It was a pune. < 1318038990 382158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 > SetSlot (WindowID (-1)) (-1) Nothing < 1318038990 557987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 > PlayerPositionLook (PlayerPos (Point 0.0 64.0 0.0) 71.62) (Direction 0.0 0.0) True < 1318038990 705077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < PlayerPositionLook (PlayerPos (Point 8.5 65.0 8.5) 66.62000000476837) (Direction (-180.0) 0.0) False < 1318038990 705287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < PlayerPosition (PlayerPos (Point 8.5 64.92159999847412 8.5) 66.5416000032425) False < 1318038990 705394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < PlayerPosition (PlayerPos (Point 8.5 64.76636799395752 8.5) 66.386367l9o9c8a7l2h5o8s9t): 4F5a2l6s0e < 1318038992 891713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> KeepAlive 0 < 1318038993 816269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `KeepAlive' < 1318038994 907965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < PlayerPositionLook (PlayerPos (Point 0.0 69.99999999523163 0.0) 71.62) (Direction 0.0 0.0) True < 1318038997 871549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < KeepAlive 0 < 1318038999 943907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :localhost:45260 < PlayerPositionLook (PlayerPos (Point 0.0 69.99999999523163 0.0) 71.62) (Direction 0.0 0.0) False < 1318039002 998457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Lightweight threads give the absolute best IO. < 1318039004 792851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially when your line-based IO is based on iteration of character-based IO. < 1318039014 587864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a fact and everyone will agree on that now. < 1318039554 528538 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a successor monad similar to a maybe monad? < 1318039662 152099 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1318039711 445268 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/successor+monad < 1318039776 23810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1318039782 481059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a = a+1, after all < 1318040658 147098 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1318040787 455293 :augur!~augur@c-68-49-43-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318041344 856179 :CakeProphet!~eris@h184-60-161-54.nlsnga.dsl.dynamic.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318041345 205778 :CakeProphet!~eris@h184-60-161-54.nlsnga.dsl.dynamic.tds.net QUIT :Changing host < 1318041345 353470 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1318041380 384947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1318042030 586513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : some boxes cheat and DEVOUR MATHEMATICIANS' SOULS TO CREATE EVIL SIDE-EFFECTS. <-- i see you are keeping strictly on topic < 1318042133 759346 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Good thing you are now on because I wanted to ask a question to you. You linked to Astrolog program from agora-horoscope but that link no longer works (it is a 404 and redirect). < 1318042152 700741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1318042180 775064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't think i have a copy < 1318042189 172399 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK, it doesn't matter. < 1318042240 16023 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1318042272 598484 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed they have Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc, but no Earth. Is that because the horoscopes are calculated relative to the Earth? If so, is it possible to calculate relative to something else? < 1318042315 703852 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Earth is listed underneath, but that seems to have to do with the classical elements.) < 1318042378 135753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i have wondered that too, horoscopes seem very earth centered. your exact position on earth is a parameter, and the houses are really i think incorporating earth information < 1318042411 388533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've wondered what astrologers are going to do when the first people get born outside earth orbit :P < 1318042534 716669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, it's www.astrolog.org now < 1318042549 416953 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my opinion, they don't need to do anything; but if they want to do something, they should probably use mathematics of astronomy to determine how to calculate it; that is, if they want to calculate it at all! (What astrologers do doesn't help anyways, so why would you do something about it, unless you wanted accurate scientific calculations? Maybe some astrologers do want it more than others) < 1318042651 474077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one would assume astrologers believe they are actually doing something meaningful < 1318042674 777859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that it would be important to make such horoscopes, when the time arises < 1318042859 18503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, oerjan's horoscope is still linked from agoranomic.org. < 1318042892 814702 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you do want to make such horoscopes, it would seem, they should correct it based on astronomical calculations, I suppose. If you are on different planet, with different length of years, do you consider that too? I don't know! (I don't think astrologers need to decide; but probably they think they need to.) < 1318042904 560238 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, in my opinion, a computer program that does horoscopes ought to have these features. < 1318042927 27606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't think year lengths are a problem, that's just the position of the sun < 1318042952 427889 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O, yes, you are correct. It is the relative position of the sun. < 1318042961 352773 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the same thing. < 1318043030 54148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more serious would be the placement of the spring equinox, since that determines the start of the zodiac. < 1318043075 509030 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK. Yes, I suppose so. I don't know a lot about the zodiac. < 1318043078 193606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does every planet even have one? mercury and venus have days synchronized with the year < 1318043122 376102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uranus rotates nearly 90 degrees off < 1318043126 515278 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1318043218 544940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh and the moon of course always points the same face at earth, so earth would have a fixed position < 1318043230 95104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, the zodiac would move < 1318043240 735670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :relatively to earth < 1318043255 893268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if doing a horoscope relative to the moon) < 1318044342 262035 :tiffany!~AndChat@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318044387 905550 :centrinia!~exc@adsl-184-36-92-239.asm.bellsouth.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1318044437 294067 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318044445 302137 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1318044456 206326 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1318044461 652808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoforum completely overrun with spam again < 1318044467 228405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1318044476 144345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1318044477 619160 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up? < 1318044478 278217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1318044496 383300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1318044499 8077 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote this learn DB, and wrote or improved many of the other commands in this bot. He probably has done other things? < 1318044505 253130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1318044508 760686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan < 1318044510 920132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your future evil overlord oerjan is an expert in lazy computation. < 1318044552 924984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not joking on the lazy part. < 1318044577 226454 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, isn't c++ esoteric enough? ;) < 1318044599 933395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok, as long as you only program in the template system. < 1318044626 655730 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, right, and use only words from alice in wonderland < 1318044638 285360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1318044638 432094 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1318044647 601754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's a good thing, right? < 1318044648 239929 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this fnord the poor.' why, that's been changed into ' shall be absolute governor for life, with the words " and the moral of that fnord' and walked in. in another place, fnord, < 1318044670 485029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i am not convinced the word "fnord" occurs in lewis carroll's works. < 1318044671 38896 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he served out some fnord with a sense of his guilt, you ought to fnord, but did not attempt to pronounce the sentence with your lips quite close to the little glass table. taking the little golden key, she unlocked the door that led into the garden with one fnord only one i can think of fnord. < 1318044694 117078 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down, down, down her own ears for having no think you could see it pop down the flame of get out of the little door into the use with pink eyes ran across the fall dark hall, which way. < 1318044722 689162 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 markov chains ;) < 1318044726 509917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... see < 1318044749 621373 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, thought this chat was about another type of esotericism. cya < 1318044754 824542 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think yesterday I and you was discussing categories from graphs. I also have a similar idea for categories from digraphs, where you have a digraph and a cancellation specification to make up a category. What are these called? < 1318044764 154578 :Viator!~Viator@dslb-092-072-029-241.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Among the lucky, you are the chosen one. < 1318044782 764270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, i wanted to tell him we were just discussing astrology :( < 1318044790 837911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1318044845 811433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well that's just a special case isn't it? < 1318044851 313740 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, so... apparently perl subroutines are not continuations? < 1318044872 533844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shit? < 1318044875 49427 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes we were, but we have discussed it from a somewhat more scientific point of view than I would guess that astrologers probably usually do < 1318044933 869330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1318044934 16156 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I mean both things; there is one for graphs and one for digraphs. Although I do suppose you can make a digraph that has a reverse for each line and make that the cancelation rule. < 1318044938 806897 :Viator!5c481df1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.72.29.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318044944 832 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my %datasets; my $help_mode; sub dataset_handler($) { $datasets{shift} = 1; } < 1318044950 623133 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't work correctly, according to warnings. < 1318044968 981865 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean, is what are these methods to make a category from graphs and/or digraph, called? < 1318044969 528522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i mean isn't the digraph one just a special case of the general graph one? < 1318044975 49673 :Viator!5c481df1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.72.29.241 QUIT :Client Quit < 1318044983 885971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed him again < 1318045019 46172 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not as far as I know; it seems different to me. < 1318045027 938859 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, maybe if I use a reference instead.... < 1318045058 871414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. please explain how the digraph one works < 1318045129 631351 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK. You have a digraph, and a cancellation specification (which might be empty). You can walk only in the direction that the arrows on the digraph go, and the morphisms are those walks. < 1318045202 571767 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay apparently anonymous subs are closures. < 1318045205 977803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the category of the walks of a directed graph in general is a well known concept, i thinkg < 1318045306 5654 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK. But what if you add a cancellation specification? < 1318045311 855596 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1318045382 710752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot seem to recall anything in particular < 1318045525 930989 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1318045632 629374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you have complicated enough cancellation specifications, it seems like you could get a result that was equivalent to any (finite) category < 1318045680 428143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if cancellation means "declaring a walk to be equal to the empty walk" < 1318045735 708272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it then becomes somewhat analogous to defining a particular monoid or group by generators and equations < 1318045757 995641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and relations < 1318045833 660404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_of_a_monoid < 1318045842 182276 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is what I mean. One example is making any graph into a digraph such that each edge on the graph corresponds to both directions on the digraph, where these directions are defined as cancelling each other. < 1318045903 684536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense a category is just a monoid where some compositions are undefined < 1318045913 190428 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318045942 531364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1318046200 635866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Gregor: I think you guys might enjoy this quiz: http://ridiculousfish.com/blog/posts/will-it-optimize.html < 1318046318 345213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only got one right :( < 1318046493 845223 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :When trying to run the Daedalus program (from the same person that made Astrolog), I get the error "The system cannot execute the specified program." but I tried looking in the dependency walker and cannot find anything wrong in there < 1318046949 292029 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does a balanced Eulerian tournament digraph able to make Rock-Paper-Scissors including their variations with more than three throws? < 1318047144 657442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1318047353 151102 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you understand what I meant? < 1318047360 356526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1318047434 784952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the top google hit for "balanced eulerian tournament" says "A connected bi-directed graph is Eulerian if and only if every vertex is balanced." < 1318047460 162661 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using stuff from the Wikipedia articles relating to graph theory < 1318047512 565204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i know eulerian, digraph, and rock-paper-scissors < 1318047531 31206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can imagine making a digraph telling who wins in RPS < 1318047558 998101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what a "throw" is < 1318047585 238568 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The throws in RPS are the Rock, Paper, Scissors, are sometimes called the "throws". < 1318047590 491637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1318047615 221110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall once trying to list some such variations that were "minimal" in a sense < 1318047681 535036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine you'd want it to be symmetrical between players < 1318047697 526826 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1318047705 804522 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to make an obfuscated RPS program now... < 1318047708 269775 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using actual "throws" < 1318047717 607938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iirc by "minimal" i think i meant that there was no "throw" as you call it which a player could ignore < 1318047736 663431 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK. < 1318047751 960769 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :"throw Paper;" < 1318047775 429216 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The standard three-throw system is sufficient for two players, and my brother agrees with that, so does the World RPS society. Not everyone agrees. < 1318047776 127601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, no throw that could be excluded from an optimal mixed strategy < 1318047794 837633 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And, in fact, makes the best game for two players, too.) < 1318047873 369605 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can make the game with any odd number of throws at least three. I have thought of a way to make the number of throws infinite, although it does not seem the game can be played in this case. < 1318047883 815476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: rps esolang. get on it. :P < 1318047901 552845 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However the infinite throws game is still provably balanced. < 1318047951 686164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the definition of "balanced" here? < 1318048011 143585 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that if all throws are equally likely, each throw is as likely to win as it is likely to lose against the opponent with equally likely throws all of them. < 1318048021 805914 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And each throw still only stalemates against itself. < 1318048026 233368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1318048300 42108 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think what I had, is that the throws are the integers, and the higher or lower number wins depending whether the difference is odd or even. < 1318048495 116580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when you have a countably infinite number of throws, standard probability theory has no concept of them being "equally likely" < 1318048515 552570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they would each have to have probability 0, and that sums to 0 < 1318048520 950220 :tiffany!~AndChat@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1318048533 204514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and standard probability theory assumes countable additivity < 1318048979 993049 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that is how it works. < 1318049377 883222 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1318049397 441111 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318050780 677641 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in such a system, is there any reason to pick a non 0, 1, 2? < 1318050825 676203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean in zzo38's infinite system? < 1318050841 440462 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1318050841 813506 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1318051013 407030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you do that you'll have to pick 1 with 50% probability or else the opponent wins on average by choosing 3 < 1318051087 761520 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting < 1318051154 825771 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay yeah, I see. if you pick from 0 to n, if n is odd the opponent just picks from within your set and wins more than it loses, while if n is even the opponent picks from outside your set and wins more than it loses < 1318051157 713409 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to pick everything < 1318051175 562216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you do that, any number other than 0,1,2 will win 50% guaranteed < 1318051199 43375 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1318051512 818289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you then choose 0 less than 50% of the time, the opponent can win on average by choosing 2 < 1318051562 79839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you must choose 0 50% and 1 50%. but then the opponent wins on average with 1. < 1318051579 867867 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that's the sequence of logic I followed < 1318051598 75835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait < 1318051607 433597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the possibility of 1 less than 50% < 1318051622 656382 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :if 1 less than 50%, opponent choses 2 or 3 < 1318051630 919200 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-215-70.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1318051631 159356 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :countering the one you pick more < 1318051637 104461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh i mean more than 50% < 1318051666 846816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he can choose -1, iiu zzo38 correctly < 1318051687 110822 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I include all integers, positive and negative and zero < 1318051696 720062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not necessary, since 2 or 3 will work as you say < 1318051873 641748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i think this generalizes to show you must use infinitely many possibilities. < 1318051965 695760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise: first, you must choose evens as often as odds or the opponent wins by choosing something larger at the right distance, secondly, you cannot choose your largest number at all or the opponent wins by also choosing it. < 1318052030 904898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the second part depends on having proved the first part) < 1318052099 67834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :intuitively though, i think you still have an optimal strategy if you say choose negative numbers evenly < 1318052108 588239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never positive ones < 1318052124 941089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/evenly/with "equal probability"/ < 1318052596 489833 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1318052837 565892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan helo < 1318052863 288086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :helocipter < 1318053003 701021 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got Daedalus to run now. It has over 400 options and many examples. It is generally for making mazes, but it does other things too, such as drawing a picture of castles, Escher rooms, and more. It does many kind of mazes, including 2D, 3D, 4D, and 5D. < 1318053035 436941 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1318053040 778874 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have daedalus on my computer < 1318053056 336879 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not particularly sure what to -do- with it, though. Running mazes is only entertaining for so long < 1318053067 916329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus.htm oh this looks neat < 1318053073 803463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking it'd be some astrology crap < 1318053094 396226 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, Astrolog is astrology program. Daedalus does mazes. < 1318053096 605236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even i thought that < 1318053096 878995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/mandy.jpg FSVO mandelbrot set < 1318053234 817708 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/algrithm.htm look at all this everything < 1318053285 637624 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything about mazes you never wanted to know < 1318053293 611751 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astrolog also has a lot of options. You can, in fact, change which planet ("planet" in the astrological sense) you are computing relative to, and it does not only horoscopes but also calendars, local horizon, solar system orbits, rising and setting, you can change the zodiac degree offset, you can change the symbols of planets to the ones commonly used in astronomy, and more. < 1318053426 134500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: dude really likes mazes I guess < 1318053458 202562 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even has a castle simulator! http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/castle.jpg < 1318053461 401830 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the next dorf fortress < 1318053461 556307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"UFO ship images: I believe Earth is not alone in the universe and we are regularly visited by beings from other worlds. I also believe these beings (including the ones known as Zeta Reticulans or Greys) are friendly and here to assist our planet through its collective adolescence. One of the most common visitors are the Pleiadians. The next time one of their beamships lands in your backyard, don't jus < 1318053461 710837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t stare at it wonderingly, but use this UFO ship file I put together to identify it, and start up an intelligent conversation with them. :-)" < 1318053464 148987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1318053479 892696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from the astrolog guy) < 1318053501 881191 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear I ran this maze once and I've never been to america http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/glacier.jpg o.O < 1318053506 181509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Good vs. evil extraterrestrials: Philosophical insights into the concept of "good" and "evil" extraterrestrials, warfare between solar systems, and whether Earth is at any risk of being invaded or whatever. Transcribed from a channeling of Bashar." < 1318053507 296450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1318053513 222707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: wait you are not from the US? < 1318053515 962778 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a channeling of bashar < 1318053519 307157 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Australia < 1318053522 463103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1318053523 183289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1318053529 100410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bashar.org/ bashar < 1318053530 490764 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gigamazes: The largest Mazes ever created! Try to solve a Maze measuring a billion passages by a billion passages. < 1318053530 920331 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1318053538 418451 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dies of old age < 1318053550 894184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pentagram: I created and posted this image of a pentagram to alt.pagan a number of years ago. The pentagram is a pagan symbol which to me at least represents the higher mind (top point) achieving mastery of the four elements (other points) through spiritual growth." < 1318053555 410256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy created a pentagram once, life achievement < 1318053564 422304 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :c'mon, don't leave us hanging < 1318053565 129162 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :post pix < 1318053569 79396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/home/pic/pentagrm.gif < 1318053571 517461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :contain yourself pls < 1318053576 303097 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :a decent pentagram < 1318053577 722690 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :too aliased < 1318053579 787702 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :7/10 < 1318053599 751674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentagram competition < 1318053602 949466 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I was not swept off my feet, but I enjoyed the experience' - The New York Times < 1318053617 395297 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/pacman.jpg lol < 1318053641 427752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this actually a maze program < 1318053644 965395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be twenty programs < 1318053648 984316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one < 1318053664 107911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/maze5d.jpg help < 1318053670 623471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not look like maze :'( < 1318053690 874640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott@katia:~/Downloads$ wget http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/daedalus/dae23zip.exe < 1318053692 484922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try this shit < 1318053697 379413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna get me some mazes < 1318053698 3480 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAAAAH < 1318053700 16321 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEAVY CANNOT SOLVE THIS < 1318053719 40200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who isn't playing along at home and installing daedalus: we're no longer friends, sorry < 1318053736 589889 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have installed Daedalus. < 1318053748 466501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The following NEW packages will be installed: < 1318053748 643598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : binfmt-support fonts-horai-umefont gcc-4.6-base:i386 gnome-exe-thumbnailer < 1318053748 798038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ia32-libs ia32-libs-multiarch:i386 icoutils imagemagick lib32asound2 < 1318053748 798211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : lib32bz2-1.0 lib32ffi6 lib32gcc1 lib32ncurses5 lib32ncursesw5 lib32nss-mdns < 1318053748 798321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : lib32stdc++6 lib32tinfo5 lib32z1 libacl1:i386 libattr1:i386 libaudio2:i386 < 1318053749 286986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386 < 1318053750 970300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libc6:i386 libc6-i386 libcdt4 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 < 1318053752 950864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libcupsimage2:i386 libcurl3:i386 libdb5.1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdrm2:i386 < 1318053755 30351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libexpat1:i386 libffi6:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 < 1318053757 182068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libgcc1:i386 libgcrypt11:i386 libgdbm3:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 < 1318053758 896399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libgnutls26:i386 libgpg-error0:i386 < 1318053760 952260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libgraph4 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgvc5 libice6:i386 libidn11:i386 < 1318053762 961139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libjpeg62:i386 libk5crypto3:i386 libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 < 1318053765 33064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libkrb5support0:i386 liblcms1:i386 libldap-2.4-2:i386 liblqr-1-0 < 1318053767 29693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libmagickcore3 libmagickcore3-extra libmagickwand3 libmng1:i386 libnetpbm10 < 1318053768 940620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libnspr4:i386 libnss3:i386 libpathplan4 libpcre3:i386 libpng12-0:i386 < 1318053771 156463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-declarative:i386 libqt4-designer:i386 < 1318053772 974354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-opengl:i386 libqt4-qt3support:i386 < 1318053774 427952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libqt4-script:i386 libqt4-scripttools:i386 libqt4-sql:i386 libqt4-svg:i386 < 1318053776 567615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libqt4-test:i386 libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386 libqtcore4:i386 < 1318053778 599935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libqtgui4:i386 librtmp0:i386 libsasl2-2:i386 libsasl2-modules:i386 < 1318053780 572763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libselinux1:i386 libsm6:i386 libsqlite3-0:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 < 1318053782 604533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libstdc++6:i386 libtasn1-3:i386 libtiff4:i386 libuuid1:i386 libx11-6:i386 < 1318053784 553914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libxau6:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 < 1318053786 436587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libxfixes3:i386 libxi6:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxt6:i386 < 1318053788 563553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : libxxf86vm1:i386 netpbm qdbus:i386 winbind wine wine1.3 wine1.3-gecko < 1318053790 460240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : winetricks zlib1g:i386 < 1318053792 620237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear apt-get: what did I do, I'm so sorry; love, elliott < 1318053793 133082 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything else? < 1318053794 590965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh er < 1318053796 555951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's longer than i expected < 1318053810 524046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1318053844 912063 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIT QUIET IN HERE < 1318053864 731690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: so how much effort is it to use all the upside down unicode characters so that everyone else can read your messages < 1318053867 454967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a script to do it :D < 1318053877 648531 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny < 1318053906 589306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is two thousand and eleven anno domini and upside down australia jokes are funny and topical < 1318053948 898105 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.astrolog.org/labyrnth/maze/symmetry.gif this makes me think of memes < 1318053990 606246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i could stare at that forever < 1318053994 163602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :until my eyes start leaking blood < 1318054026 492439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-dev_2.30.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb 404 Not Found < 1318054026 646997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-bin_2.30.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb 404 Not Found < 1318054026 647199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.30.0-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb 404 Not Found < 1318054026 647308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.30.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb 404 Not Found < 1318054029 82260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? < 1318054031 172369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noooooooooo < 1318054129 852813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :83% [11 libllvm2.9 2,496 kB/6,560 kB 38%] 858 kB/s 8s < 1318054132 822043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine depends on that?????? < 1318054135 936689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :new world, new lifestyle, new changes, < 1318054167 372330 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :this looks cool < 1318054167 867039 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :Template: Mazes based on templates are done by simply starting with the base template image, then running the isolation remover to ensure the Maze has a solution, followed by the loop remover to ensure the Maze is hard enough, resulting in a perfect Maze that still looks very similar to the original image. For example, to create a Maze composed of interlocking spirals, just create some random < 1318054168 277330 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :spirals without worrying whether it's a Maze or not, then run it through the isolation and loop removers. < 1318054214 542933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow the daedalus setup program is awkward < 1318054220 63305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: i hope you're doing this too :'( < 1318054273 866035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1318054276 207444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it works :') < 1318054290 361183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: dear god < 1318054295 461341 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: it can run GoL on a maze < 1318054307 881949 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1318054308 250182 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does have a lot of options. < 1318054320 50126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw → life generate, it has a shortcut, Alt+L < 1318054322 324827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely needs a shortcut < 1318054323 864946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very common operation < 1318054326 733730 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOl < 1318054349 605325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of these are really cool install this program now you will love it < 1318054374 391327 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost everything in that program has a shortcut. Remember that if the letters are uppercase you need to use shift. < 1318056217 237499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote GFDL < 1318056222 329231 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :151) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. < 1318056235 167945 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1318056779 362719 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1318057761 548099 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1318058046 568206 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-1.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318058052 659510 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-216-34.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1318058122 779883 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-d932d101.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318058504 490048 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318058595 448633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen Are the rumors of your death exaggerated? < 1318058595 747773 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A public man must never forget that he loses his usefulness when he as an individual, rather than his policy, becomes the issue. < 1318058601 471969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1318058606 847488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list vixen < 1318058607 185787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "vixen" loaded < 1318058615 268123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1318059943 651155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen I have this tape recorder... < 1318059943 908995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second point is that coming out--coming back and saying that black Americans aren't as good as black Africans--most of them , basically, are just out of the trees. Now, let's face it, they are. < 1318060167 844362 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318060655 559379 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sunrise and sunset listed in Astrolog are a few minutes difference from those in other programs. Is it because astrology uses different rise/sets? Is it because I entered an incorrect input? < 1318060847 725884 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-1.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knowing what I do know about astrology, I'd be willing to bet it's using a rather ridiculous means of calculating sunrise and sunset. < 1318061111 302686 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing the zodiac degree offset to -3.6 appears to give give the same answers as other sources. < 1318061264 259243 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1318061291 141845 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says to use 24 degrees. < 1318061302 508962 :CakeProp1et!~eris@h97.41.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318061357 234615 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But 24 doesn't work, it only works with -3.6 < 1318061436 768201 :CakeProp1et!~eris@h97.41.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1318061559 242872 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The setting is labeled "Zodiac Degree Offset / Ayanamsa" and Wikipedia has an article about Ayanamsa. < 1318061946 31435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1318062168 313612 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obfuscated Haskell! \n -> sum (read ((++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]") :: [Int]) < 1318062282 428155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t any < 1318062283 269834 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (a -> Bool) -> [a] -> Bool < 1318062350 191574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f n = sum (read xs :: [Int]) < 1318062350 686117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : where xs = init ('[' : concat (map (:",") $ filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) $ show n)) ++ "]" < 1318062358 293200 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that bad. Although the algorithm looks stupid. < 1318062405 413134 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pl'ing it doesn't work < 1318062413 212244 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \n -> sum (read ((++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]") :: [Int]) < 1318062413 748064 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sum . (:: [Int]) . read . (++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . join . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062420 985133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it fucks up the type signature. < 1318062433 324960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \n -> sum (FFFF (read ((++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]"))) < 1318062433 801499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sum . FFFF . read . (++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . join . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062435 782306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1318062452 111993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl (++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]")) < 1318062452 459852 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 89): < 1318062452 741022 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected ")" < 1318062452 887678 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting variable, "(", operator or end of input < 1318062454 45144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl (++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]") < 1318062454 405740 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line 1, column 89): < 1318062454 670199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected ")" < 1318062456 461361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expecting variable, "(", operator or end of input < 1318062458 469060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl (++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]" < 1318062458 746082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :init ('[' : ((: ",") =<< filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))) ++ "]" < 1318062477 83365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \n -> (++) (init ('[':concat (map (:",") (filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) (show n))))) "]" < 1318062477 375849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . join . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062499 496123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let readSpecial :: String -> [Int]; readSpecial = read in sum . readSpecial . (++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . join . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062500 298113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show (a -> GHC.Types.Int) < 1318062500 587819 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising fro... < 1318062502 684119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let readSpecial :: String -> [Int]; readSpecial = read in sum . readSpecial . (++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . join . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062503 515282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Show a) => a -> Int < 1318062524 228367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let readSpecial :: String -> [Int]; readSpecial = read in sum . readSpecial . (++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . concat . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show < 1318062525 120439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Show a) => a -> Int < 1318062534 831799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: What is it even meant to do? < 1318062544 427091 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital sum < 1318062557 76045 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of non-integers < 1318062825 459611 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By converting them into a string, converting that string into a list of digits, then finding the sum of that < 1318062881 484894 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The craziest bit is probably converting the string to the list < 1318062914 863520 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It involves inserting ',' after each character < 1318062923 891102 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then putting a '[' on the front < 1318062968 335752 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then taking a ',' off the end < 1318062974 362110 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then putting a ']' on the end < 1318062981 953320 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then reading it as a [Int] < 1318062987 772945 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably a number of easier ways < 1318063000 17725 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I think I have figured out why entering 24 doesn't work. The documentation says to enter 0 for Fagan Bradley; Wikipedia says "Western Astrologers Fagan and Bradley computed it at 24 degrees in 1950" < 1318063372 515193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: You realise that String == [Char]? < 1318063433 553102 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1318063438 656492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1318063445 146298 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't actually figure out what the hell you do there, so :P < 1318063451 309411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . concat . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show) 9090909999 < 1318063452 955537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[9,0,9,0,9,0,9,9,9,9]" < 1318063453 400362 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was designed to echo my thought process < 1318063456 69900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((++ "]") . init . ('[' :) . concat . map (: ",") . filter (flip any ['0'..'9'] . (==)) . show) "texas99aaxasbsa" < 1318063457 554082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[9,9]" < 1318063471 744149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I'm not exactly why you want show here at all < 1318063485 222634 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I am mad < 1318063497 522372 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1318063503 976180 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :=|:-{D < 1318063504 242439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> divMod 9090909999 10 < 1318063505 51948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (909090999,9) < 1318063509 982380 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1318063511 380028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> divMod 90 10 < 1318063512 220757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (9,0) < 1318063542 20146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits n = let (x,n') = divMod n 10 in x : digits n' in digits 9099 < 1318063542 878806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [909,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1318063548 357515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = let (x,n') = divMod n 10 in x : digits n' in digits 9099 < 1318063549 296002 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [909,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1318063553 992082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1318063554 898012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1318063561 514815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = let (n',x) = divMod n 10 in x : digits n' in digits 9099 < 1318063562 430113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [9,9,0,9] < 1318063623 677244 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((++ "]") . ('[':) . intersperse ',' . filter (`elem` ['0'..'9']) . show) "texas99aaxasbsa" < 1318063625 228356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "[9,9]" < 1318063638 735364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't think we need to encourage this awful "show" thing < 1318063645 866607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t divMod < 1318063646 671663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Integral a) => a -> a -> (a, a) < 1318063664 114330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: < 1318063664 568268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :digits :: (Integral a) => a -> [a] < 1318063664 714992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :digits 0 = [] < 1318063664 715176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :digits n = d : digits n' < 1318063664 715281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : where (n',d) = divMod n 10 < 1318063664 715386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1318063666 585337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :digitalSum :: (Integral a) => a -> a < 1318063668 663788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :digitalSum = sum . digits < 1318063676 26359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you try and generalise it to any Show I'll get mad < 1318063697 486459 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't written to show good coding practices < 1318063701 375561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAAAAD < 1318063735 999956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (:) $ digits <$> n `divMod` 10 in digits 9909 < 1318063736 803633 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [990,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,... < 1318063744 611297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = flip . uncurry (:) $ digits <$> n `divMod` 10 in digits 9909 < 1318063745 500802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a -> b]' < 1318063745 802204 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `a ->... < 1318063755 843227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (:) . swap $ digits <$> n `divMod` 10 in digits 9909 < 1318063756 615876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `swap' < 1318063762 562933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (flip (:)) $ digits <$> n `divMod` 10 in digits 9909 < 1318063763 400813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a = [a] < 1318063770 246738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1318063773 238655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (flip (:)) $ digits <$> (n `divMod` 10) in digits 9909 < 1318063774 308518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: a = [a] < 1318063788 768962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (:) $ digits . swap <$> n `divMod` 10; swap (x,y) = (y,x) in digits 9909 < 1318063789 550310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Real.Integral (t, t)) < 1318063789 829245 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1010... < 1318063803 112965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let digits 0 = []; digits n = uncurry (:) $ digits <$> swap (n `divMod` 10); swap (x,y) = (y,x) in digits 9909 < 1318063803 887835 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [9,0,9,9] < 1318063825 271121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \n -> uncurry (:) $ digits <$> swap (n `divMod` 10) < 1318063825 503246 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncurry (:) . (digits <$>) . swap . (`divMod` 10) < 1318063886 556943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: digitSum = nat 0 $ uncurry (+) . fmap digitSum . swap . (`divMod` 10) < 1318063904 458732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given obvious nat 0 z _ = z; nat n z f = f (nat (n-1) z f) < 1318063919 212673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now Deewiant will come along and decimate the length of that < 1318064017 66713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cough < 1318064033 544526 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not in scope: nat"? < 1318064054 863994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Given obvious nat 0 z _ = z; nat n z f = f (nat (n-1) z f) < 1318064063 777174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the obvious catamorphism for the naturals < 1318064064 429558 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1318064068 774843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the fold over naturals, if you prefer < 1318064073 813905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a function from naturals to their Church representation < 1318064077 376432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/the/ < 1318064252 73533 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1318064386 994253 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318064492 623635 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :pog < 1318064515 811857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pogs < 1318064543 212558 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsistence pharming < 1318064627 590327 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'll go back to Piet < 1318065002 870318 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1318065615 522859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?hoogle system < 1318065615 869020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1318065716 237535 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318065840 452727 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318065931 132291 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1318067176 93973 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318067255 927 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1318067649 758245 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :curry < 1318067722 548183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncurry < 1318067793 562700 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :uncurry chicken < 1318067890 5629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1318069713 556476 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318069806 568811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1318070056 36330 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1318070138 857647 :CakeProphet!~eris@h166.14.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318070139 145200 :CakeProphet!~eris@h166.14.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1318070139 292055 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1318070590 131030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318070785 111176 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1318070827 966618 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1318071715 561197 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1318072154 332587 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-202-161.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318072181 659472 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-1.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1318072599 288745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/l4lqu/when_i_get_an_iv_why_do_i_immediately_taste_the/c2psz64 < 1318072601 751565 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god < 1318072840 241756 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why he can't see any blood in his tea. < 1318073044 849834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That is, surprisingly enough, a normal state for tea to be in. < 1318073077 380063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not when you have a cut on your upper lip!" < 1318073646 739381 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1318073759 897934 :myndzi!myndzi@67.168.184.168 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1318073995 541245 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1318075627 931784 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318076018 971801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 450 * 32 < 1318076019 768550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 14400 < 1318076057 399135 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (-) ((*) 450 32) ((^) 120 2) < 1318076058 211628 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1318076133 773042 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 14400 * 5 < 1318076134 630853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 72000 < 1318076186 182630 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1318076232 370690 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Leeuw < 1318076383 181154 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1318076992 952784 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am having the most depressing problem with PHP < 1318077001 879790 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it to do with }s? < 1318077002 458254 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :in one .php in a particular folder, I can open a file using a path < 1318077005 500499 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate }? < 1318077011 173239 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I pass the path to another .php in the same folder, the path no longert works < 1318077803 526541 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?so !c printf("blah"); < 1318077803 777340 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("blah"); not available < 1318077809 268058 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmph. < 1318077818 128307 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in too many channels, elliott. < 1318077824 297377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in three. < 1318077836 769112 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one more than me < 1318077837 143661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, EgoBot ignores lambdabot these days. < 1318077839 280102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does it. < 1318077843 460730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't ignore it but won't send do it. < 1318077846 889476 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Only two of which I'm in. < 1318077849 927175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, that botloop is broken; also EgoBot isn't here. < 1318077850 549327 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, too many. < 1318077854 209891 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is in ~90 channels. < 1318077917 359928 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which two channels are you and elliott both in? < 1318077929 223568 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo fungot test < 1318077929 535737 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it is supposed to have the story thus taken out of his mouth, " and if oo puts fnord one end, oo know!" < 1318077931 829400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot test < 1318077955 770553 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, fungot ignores HackEgo < 1318077956 166347 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: ' but if you find him with his friends, the whole of your case, more fnord would be worth the trouble of getting up and picking the daisies, who were discussing some new music that had just arrived from london. < 1318077985 485629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1318077985 632406 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice* c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1318078036 883090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1318078037 69064 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1318078055 902124 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot fungot < 1318078056 49077 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1318078101 126656 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: no! Not Markov! < 1318078109 966791 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Who or what is anmaster? < 1318078130 685786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal in a previous life. < 1318078150 750419 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god that is the new best style. < 1318078150 943967 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no! Not Markov! < 1318078156 542426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hello! < 1318078156 689182 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i am just as confused. you, in the course of the evening." make up your mind. now, only the 3 dead, and one of these contexts. the third aspect is this a cognate of the spanish fnord fnord? < 1318078171 898730 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1318078172 45531 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, `-h' ( currently the only thing < 1318078173 951325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :705) Ngevd:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1318078192 921825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: How'd it get that . right after "Ngevd:"? < 1318079086 16848 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 . < 1318079184 247038 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1318079185 629735 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1318079200 133801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's two in the afternoon... < 1318079223 924902 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1318079277 339998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1318079282 532515 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1318079369 924773 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318079374 743034 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-202-161.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1318079875 701117 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1318080132 63239 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1318080147 85933 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318080305 816245 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318080575 768715 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if POVray is turing complete < 1318080577 801933 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318080800 70363 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-31-252.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1318081070 887242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1318081071 549696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :May 30, 2011 < 1318081071 696553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today FFmpeg has received the first legal threat in its existence. Its from a previous root admin of FFmpeg, who now is root admin of the Libav fork of FFmpeg. He claims copyright on the zigzag part of our logo. It has to be noted that he said 4 years ago Credit to whoever came up with the zigzag idea < 1318081071 696718 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update May 31/June 1:We have replaced the logo with a better looking one drawn by Hervé Flores. < 1318081072 231357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1318081078 503776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the stupidest drama. < 1318081344 728955 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1318081346 620941 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is. < 1318081847 144498 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1318082715 65155 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1318083150 89389 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318083240 846078 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of making a language to compile into BytePusher < 1318083264 448613 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thoughts? < 1318083285 333467 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I probably mean "Feature requests?" < 1318083325 47218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be Haskell. < 1318083329 897328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's not night time. < 1318083337 712528 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1318083344 487980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop saying it is. < 1318083344 634673 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said goodnight because.. < 1318083345 908091 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um.. < 1318083354 137078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It is unacceptable. We are ashamed. < 1318083361 736411 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was having a nap < 1318083714 7183 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's been done < 1318084067 801101 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1318084110 188660 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318084247 391142 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Question < 1318084267 712618 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BytePusher, does changing the Keyboard state bytes do anything other than changing those bytes? < 1318084323 191963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say that's UB < 1318084336 221023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, you're not allowed to write there < 1318084628 304148 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1318084905 437802 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1318085214 893458 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318085248 206357 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1318085722 978752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318086443 963496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1318086460 613822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi el < 1318086465 222985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott < 1318088845 969236 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know, but the spacing is a bit messy anyway. It could be that it works by writing out normal words with a space prefixed, while "." and "," and such don't get the initial space. < 1318088857 680899 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318088997 776843 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15226883 < 1318089014 663602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beards and hair cut off. < 1318089019 117618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't make this shit up. < 1318089084 320546 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: take cares < 1318089127 826501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_of_Queen_Ber%C3%BAthiel < 1318089128 979078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1318089137 736052 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may well be the single most ridiculous article. < 1318089279 945294 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps < 1318089695 752436 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318090040 734043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: have you seen the article on toilet roll orientation? < 1318090049 16764 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have. < 1318090052 196227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, point taken. < 1318090061 90886 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the single most ridiculous LotR thing ever. < 1318090085 759053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raLbY_ykK48 < 1318090089 970413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, wrong channel. < 1318090292 775493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a/fM61a < 1318090297 143809 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1318090297 290724 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1318090308 543538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ahahahahahahahahahaha < 1318090308 690414 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1318090322 947329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: destro y air physical xyzzy sounds good. < 1318090327 930448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the single best thing < 1318090328 585477 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever < 1318090340 635965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I was like 'what' and then I realised. < 1318090341 651175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we fed fungot into itself < 1318090341 798063 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and more plus the latin is a timeless language < 1318090358 602615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ouch < 1318090469 374891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, one of my friends came up with this, possibly the most pointless website ever: http://localhost.acehack.us < 1318090473 400240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `n0' with `n3' < 1318090473 585090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : because type variable `n3' would escape its scope < 1318090473 731937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : This (rigid, skolem) type variable is bound by < 1318090473 732114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : a type expected by the context: p (S n3) -> p n3 < 1318090473 732219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :euurgh < 1318090488 60671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what a bizarre error < 1318090498 577566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language? it's definitely functional < 1318090500 638071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, this is ordinary for me < 1318090501 787743 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1318090507 480420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a few extensions :P < 1318090514 984772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it didn't look like "raw" Haskell < 1318090557 48983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you could have a non-functional language with that error message... assuming you'll grant, like, C sharp as non-functional < 1318090578 593670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so do I, but non-functional languages rarely write "Couldn't match" in their error messages < 1318090583 428628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor have type variables < 1318090594 498911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "(rigid, skolem)" :) < 1318090599 849788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what that meant < 1318090612 458590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure myself :P < 1318090643 168163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think I might have to bring in the big guns for this one (there is only one big gun, it is called unsafeCoerce) < 1318090652 466724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or as I like to call it, "shut up GHC. just shut up. shut. up.") < 1318090668 354644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's unsafe! < 1318090703 113806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, well, so is LIVING. < 1318090737 506176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, what a nice surprise; I just needed more type signatures < 1318090782 533236 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318090869 790955 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks ghc < 1318090871 746639 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for understanding < 1318090961 169297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/elliott/Code/lc/lc.hs:27:36: < 1318090961 316835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (Prop (p0 n)) arising from a use of `unwrap' < 1318090961 463686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Prop (p n_tD)) < 1318090961 463908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by a type expected by the context: < 1318090961 464014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Prop (p n_tD) => LC n -> Un (p0 n) < 1318090961 908616 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : at /home/elliott/Code/lc/lc.hs:27:29-81 < 1318090970 602193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've never seen n_tD before... < 1318090973 570514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a generated name) < 1318090980 167916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably run out of names < 1318090988 295219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1318091172 909427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell :t System.IO.Unsafe.unsafePerformIO $ Foreign.peek . intPtrToPtr . fromIntegral =<< randomRIO (0, 2^32) < 1318091184 914724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, no EgoBot < 1318091240 389756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/elliott/Code/lc/lc.hs:32:30: < 1318091240 553139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `p' with `(->) (p n3 -> Un (p n1))' < 1318091240 699860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : `p' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1318091240 700034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : the type signature for < 1318091240 700141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : foldLC' :: (forall n3 r. ((Un (p n3) -> p n3) -> r) -> r) < 1318091241 210354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (forall n3. p n3 -> Un (p n3)) < 1318091243 348667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (forall n3. Fin n3 -> Un (p n3)) < 1318091245 321626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (forall n3. Un (p n3) -> Un (p n3) -> Un (p n3)) < 1318091247 331032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (forall n3. Un (p (S n3)) -> Un (p n3)) < 1318091249 380412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> LC n < 1318091251 375532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> p n < 1318091253 268162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1318091551 520764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Illegal polymorphic or qualified type: < 1318091551 695128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : forall m. (Fin n -> Fin m) -> LC m < 1318091552 671482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH COME ON < 1318091573 406432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should have seen that one coming. < 1318091826 228693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/fAFX < 1318091826 719631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1318093135 14919 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1318093222 436440 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1318093302 245966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1318093603 829654 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1318094938 963469 :Ngevd!~nathan@host-84-13-84-233.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: dinner < 1318095705 218127 :CakeProphet!~eris@h76.10.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318095705 722502 :CakeProphet!~eris@h76.10.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1318095705 869147 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1318095818 161152 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Client Quit < 1318095850 965967 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1318096393 152149 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1318096527 13189 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww yeah < 1318096532 697290 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way my laptop is going to overheat now. < 1318096646 549047 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fwoom* < 1318096730 858782 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's effing snowing. < 1318096734 71257 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hell. < 1318096771 803807 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: where do you live? < 1318096778 577758 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colorado. < 1318096783 122196 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1318096787 843728 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not /too/ unreasonable I guess... < 1318096792 475573 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :still it's October... < 1318096805 556123 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not unheard of, but it's still fairly uncommon. < 1318096828 207706 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it has the decency to at least wait till November. < 1318096859 94146 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :now... < 1318096864 554525 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it snowed in Georgia on October. < 1318096868 914178 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know something is fucked up. < 1318096873 147211 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1318096882 478363 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that shit doesn't happen until deep winter. < 1318096887 173316 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if then. < 1318096933 918412 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Colorado get tornados? < 1318096996 160345 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're at the far edge of tornado alley. < 1318097013 978310 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GA is the worst for tornados. or close to one of the worst I think. < 1318097037 111117 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :last summer we probably had maybe 5-7 tornados? < 1318097038 55893 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oklahoma and Kansas are far worse. < 1318097042 746803 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes. < 1318097053 650849 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :still GA is suprisingly bad. < 1318097080 950077 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :tornados are very fucking interesting < 1318097096 678629 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... they mostly occur here in the US. < 1318097127 401991 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, per land area Oklahoma and Kansas get the most, total Texas gets the most. < 1318097215 481455 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tornado_Alley.gif < 1318097228 409338 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this map only counts F3 to F5 though < 1318097306 924347 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme put it this way: Oklahoma has gotten 66 tornados in a day. < 1318097531 406185 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Tornado_track_map_1999_Oklahoma_tornado_outbreak.gif This was a bad day. < 1318097552 527469 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION used to live in one of the towns destroyed by that clusterfuck < 1318097681 812565 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1318101597 500839 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :dumbasstatertot < 1318101611 365606 :dumbasstatertot!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :damn < 1318101618 113419 :damn!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :micahjohnston < 1318102007 622459 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :lightwater < 1318102030 929931 :lightwater!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :clitheroe < 1318102061 207078 :clitheroe!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :craigcockbur < 1318102063 344618 :craigcockbur!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :craigcockburn < 1318102066 638469 :craigcockburn!~micahjohn@ell.io NICK :micahjohnston < 1318102081 354026 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1318102234 402487 :micahjohnston!~micahjohn@ell.io PART #esoteric :"AIO_ALLDONE" < 1318102625 277008 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1318102814 837960 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318102827 991348 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, just my slow computer, or is PCManFM shit? < 1318104211 936737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusions from Windows 8: Microsoft doesn't just copy its competitors' good ideas, but their bad ideas too < 1318104241 577186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, from the descriptions of it in the media; I haven't used it < 1318104576 558110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it's out? < 1318104962 232592 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note to self: Stop being prejudiced against programs whose name begins with x < 1318104968 156923 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchm does not seem to suck < 1318104970 654249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :racism < 1318104977 719284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xenophobia. < 1318104980 822100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip xterm, rip xkill < 1318104989 407201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip xeyes < 1318104992 204543 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip xscreensaver < 1318104996 649689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip every xfce program < 1318104999 79568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip Xorg itself < 1318105004 68242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip all the xdg- programs < 1318105008 373210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip rip rip < 1318105013 852547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip xz < 1318105060 250502 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Xorg begin with x or X? < 1318105063 463327 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip xsgeo < 1318105506 239663 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :~$ ps -e | grep -i xorg 1041 tty7 01:20:15 Xorg < 1318105529 432937 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xorg < 1318105544 209064 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION : answering life's mysteries. < 1318105547 680226 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web, xmonad? < 1318105563 778028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xylophone? < 1318105565 104512 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xmonad, xMonad, xmOnad < 1318105570 73851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xylem? < 1318105606 48389 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how does Xorg not suck? It's an X server, and I think consensus here is that X sucks... < 1318105628 487747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xerosere? < 1318105676 424660 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Xenosphere? < 1318105690 233735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's not a word. < 1318105711 340399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of the exosphere. < 1318105723 607020 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xosphere < 1318105725 637375 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xtreme < 1318105934 824650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/l4nqs/why_does_cold_water_taste_better_than_warm_water/c2pvhi2 < 1318105939 113793 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An American beer patriot. < 1318106043 183930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318107039 951330 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: take cares < 1318110443 681380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1318111344 396980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1318111547 345102 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318112664 378092 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1318112768 413045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best way to delete all lines in a file that are identical to lines that appeared previously in the file? sort of like uniq, but on unsorted files < 1318112802 43795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find the offending lines quite easily with sort | uniq -d < 1318112812 918883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's probably using awk or Perl, and I don't know awk < 1318113059 825236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/usr/bin/perl -p < 1318113061 306377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$x{$_}?$_="":($x{$_}=1) < 1318113070 312724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golf practice comes to the rescue < 1318113139 68754 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaahhhh < 1318113250 586487 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-100.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318113284 731078 :tiffany!~tiffany@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318113288 382198 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-3.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1318113491 516774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :came up for my job, accidentally awarded some students marks twice… < 1318113560 840160 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1318113968 65050 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh no! < 1318113983 13821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they didn't see the marks < 1318113990 80631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing worse than people who aren't me getting awarded marks they shouldn't have been. < 1318113990 405168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I knew that the duplicate awards would be exact duplicates, as it was scripted < 1318114008 782789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a quick unsorted-uniq got the job done (and I verified by hand it was working correctly) < 1318114019 642984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1318114859 625861 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1318115505 365388 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please make the hole in one by the technique of the boast. < 1318115776 994766 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like something a native speaker of Japanese would say. < 1318115795 514600 :tiffany!~tiffany@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1318115808 112785 :tiffany!~tiffany@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1318115982 132304 :tiffany!~tiffany@fl-76-3-16-15.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318116586 316363 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname, or a native speaker of zzo38ian. < 1318116752 254892 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@unaffiliated/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works too. < 1318116869 602193 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-196-249.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1318116874 889100 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1318116893 642943 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-151-100.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1318117032 295334 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :TheDoctor < 1318117038 318295 :TheDoctor!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1318117047 437640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, wat < 1318117067 235221 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: shenanigans in another channel < 1318117079 655942 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone had the nick CaptnJack < 1318117084 861223 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i figured i'd play along < 1318117100 409442 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can just imagine how it went; no illustration will be needed. < 1318117119 343855 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello handsom" < 1318117123 401650 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ "e" < 1318117125 352266 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was all < 1318117153 973406 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :handmany < 1318117165 69542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handall. < 1318117171 533903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handallkindalled. < 1318117187 880903 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I met someone (I think it was in school) who claimed he could predict which classical element the sign I was born in belonged to, without my birthdate. He said he was accurate 11 out of 12 times. I do not remember what his actual accuracy was (if it was random and uniform, it would be 1 out of 4). < 1318117296 631155 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :More sample data, vital for finally contacting the isolated tribes of zzo38ia. < 1318117304 919003 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would he get 1 out of 4 by random chance? < 1318117315 615583 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RANDOM CHANCE? < 1318117317 452181 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there are four classical elements. < 1318117319 685526 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION murders Patashu < 1318117325 844417 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1318117326 867339 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1318117357 274323 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's worth noting that which month of the year you're born in DOES have a statistical effect on you. I read about it in newscientist < 1318117389 647363 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know it does. I have read it too, in various places. < 1318117411 712345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says augur, descriptivist. < 1318117414 341942 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, I can't remember what the article was called < 1318117428 341606 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: SOME THINGS GO TOO FAR < 1318117430 221421 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO FAR! < 1318117477 473375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, 'ALOT' IS SIMILAR < 1318117483 60335 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there is more than just the month you were born. Perhaps season is one thing (although the month almost implies the season, I suppose). < 1318117488 12261 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: IS NOT < 1318117489 497318 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1318117491 83676 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.> < 1318117503 435624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'ALOT' HAS THE STRESS ON THE FIRST SYLLABLE. 'A LOT' HAS THE STRESS ON THE SECOND < 1318117504 734307 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE. < 1318117505 556277 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS. < 1318117506 875364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A. < 1318117509 23009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIFFERENCE. < 1318117523 370911 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :says who < 1318117531 83111 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the stress, i mean < 1318117544 181661 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the way I would naturally stress it. < 1318117550 969404 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you're wrong < 1318117552 857627 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1318117564 517136 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what the similarities of statistics effects on you of the months? If they belong to the same classical elements, are those more similarities? < 1318117565 358391 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my stress is the same as phs i think < 1318117573 19567 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use primary stress on allot as well? < 1318117600 213183 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'l' is longer in that case. < 1318117606 210839 :monqy!~swell@71.102.215.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh i'm bad at stress but allot has it on the second???? heLP < 1318117723 882872 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not phonemically or phonologically. < 1318117756 359531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, it is in the way I pronounce it. < 1318117845 124057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1318117846 274187 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving