< 1320883251 51890 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-34.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: nyu~ < 1320883567 563333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm. oh no. < 1320883606 523763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i may have < 1320883607 264922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost < 1320883607 860864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the < 1320883608 389365 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :code < 1320883609 505090 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1320883616 33480 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320883618 330360 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: write on my tombstone "killed by @", please < 1320883631 200665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't be so hasty; you /might/ survive < 1320883642 742311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfffft as if < 1320883667 458290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've ended up wiping the backup with the forth < 1320883675 308049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll have to find the latest sprunge of it and re-fix that bug < 1320883840 145526 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1320883965 550814 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott will survive forever, being ironically saved by a liver transplant from a kurzweil having a tragic accident. < 1320883988 54218 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1320884010 986157 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320884745 783632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[elliott@dinky esoteric]$ for x in $(grep 'elliott>.*http://sprunge\.us/' 2011-0{3,4,9}-??.txt | sed 's/.*\(http[^ ]\+\).*/\1/g;'); do if curl -sS "$x" | grep -c 'push 0xB800' >/dev/null; then echo "$x"; fi; done < 1320884746 734609 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :here goes < 1320884762 995294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: behold ^ < 1320884764 797516 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1320884776 933157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that is indeed beholdable < 1320884788 96715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, um, does it do? < 1320884826 69543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the existence of the special-cased months, and the curl invocation, means it's a bit hard to figure out < 1320884839 241239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't remember what B800 does < 1320884846 563646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: goes through sprunge pastes I made in 2011-{03,04,09} and prints out the ones that contain "push 0xB800", which was one of the first lines of my Forth bootsector code < 1320884860 989753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1320884879 139117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I mentally read that number as "B800", with a sort of hexadecimal flavour to it < 1320884880 774306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries "bits 16", that should be 100% reliable
< 1320884887 545751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mentally pronounce the "0x" unless I'm thinking about it < 1320884890 843699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, B 8 hundred < 1320884895 74176 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1320884954 832160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no additional results :/ guess I'll trawl through 2011-{04,05} to find where and how i fixed the bug < 1320885101 268164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-13.txt:20:38:21: i came here because olsner has a big mouth and elliott has a small forth < 1320885106 95339 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: speaking of that, do you have a copy of it < 1320885264 218170 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320885281 910759 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320885374 762051 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-24.txt:19:19:51: well that forth almost has a compiler now :D < 1320885375 976621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1320885383 542351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not going to rewrite that thing, it was long < 1320885400 662146 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: looks like @ it is < 1320885836 716618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: pikhq: olsner: You're hired. < 1320885878 333825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20111104202226210 is the article about SCO vs. IBM reopening < 1320885887 641732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 6 days old < 1320885888 768943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, thanks < 1320885904 725260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SCO has once again filed an inadequately redacted document, so I've pulled the PDF until they replace it" < 1320885906 989453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. :( < 1320885936 901836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, why are they still calling themselves SCO if they're TSG now? < 1320885950 369462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call everything SCO < 1320885954 654482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an attempt to confuse people < 1320885954 808467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1320885965 915116 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCO vs. SCO (IBM) < 1320885988 207729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they did get IBM's name wrong first time they sued them < 1320885991 887855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and had to try again < 1320886001 57176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they gave the place of incorporation incorrectly) < 1320886002 843352 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Didn't UnXis also get the SCO Group name? In the SCO bankruptcy filings since the sale, the entity formerly known as The SCO Group calls itself TSG. But UnXis *didn't* get the litigation against IBM. It's listed on the Excluded Assets. So who exactly is this asking to reopen the IBM litigation now? The filings say it's "The SCO GROUP, INC., by and through the Chapter 11 Trustee in Bankruptcy, Edward N < 1320886002 959104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. Cahn." Maybe the lawyers forgot themselves that they need to change the name. They can do that later, I suppose, but it's odd to anyone like me, who actually keeps track of the details." < 1320886005 78602 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cries.
< 1320886084 165496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, slicehost's emails to me are getting depressing < 1320886091 568930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still on slicehost? < 1320886095 699503 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :) < 1320886101 211728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if not, are they trying to persuade you to come back? < 1320886116 560600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one's signed "The Rackspace Team", and is about them discontinuing almost all their linux images < 1320886121 664643 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: considering you can't order new slices, I doubt it < 1320886131 205828 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm, maybe you can if you already own an account < 1320886150 940518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320886154 474137 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but yeah, rackspace have been in the process of engulfing it completely over the last few months, really slowly < 1320886155 565404 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1320886675 401787 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :qwrji0j0qiwejioi < 1320886680 394682 :qwrji0j0qiwejioi!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1320887045 661958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yooooooo how's cunionfs :P < 1320887068 723891 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1320887074 667763 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Unchanged! < 1320887091 256407 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wooooooooooooooo < 1320887253 3580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did Kernel Modules for Dummies not work out :P < 1320887604 77282 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Nope, I ordered The Idiot's Guide, we'll see how that goes. < 1320887628 942834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Awesome. < 1320887651 947592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: See, without the unionfs component, the only thing I can work on is the hard stuff, like a parser, evaluator, GC. < 1320887660 40095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I haaaaate you for making me not do the easy stuff. < 1320887665 750621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll focus on the download progress bars some more. < 1320887876 122634 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned recently that my graphics card has an integrated audio card? < 1320887879 636025 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cuz I feel it needs to be said. < 1320887888 468028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes. Use it to implement cunionfs! That will work. < 1320887895 795571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also, does it give you double audio. < 1320888008 227957 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah, the motherboard has an audio card too. < 1320888111 545186 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Sell it to audiophiles. < 1320888341 104392 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-226-143.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320888351 261335 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1320888624 556604 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1320889017 581353 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1320889189 411489 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found my name is now on the Hackage but they didn't sent the password. It is because the system administrator accidentally made a mistake and blocking all incoming connections to their firewall (that meant they couldn't receive their own messages, either). But they fixed it yesterday, and I sent them another message to tell them it is hopefully fixed now. Tomorrow I can check. < 1320889210 94328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoorj < 1320889224 585083 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Server maintenance: The greatestest? < 1320889378 494690 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey another brainfuck equivalent < 1320889394 812622 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSSSSSS < 1320889399 865527 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need more minor rewrites of BF! < 1320889488 448410 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wordfuck (also known as Natural BF-based language with common instructions and syntax of that language, or just NBFBLWCIASTL) is a language created by User:Marcsances identical to Brainfuck, except the way to write statements. That makes of Wordfuck even more difficult than Brainfuck (if you want to write beautiful programs, if not, it's just as easy as Brainfuck, but longer). < 1320889489 899634 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: monqy: argh this one is annoying because i need to extend my bf-defining metalanguage to support it < 1320889495 421150 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1320889497 849128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's based on length, not direct textual substitution < 1320889512 653928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1320889514 968425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: what if < 1320889521 174320 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: i make my metalanguage < 1320889522 652793 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just brainfuck < 1320889527 620027 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1320889527 671740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just write a language->bf compiler in bf < 1320889528 330216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that < 1320889528 994855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1320889531 801499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1320889533 609370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1320889544 679759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have to leave?? haha school < 1320889544 795814 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am bad < 1320889548 591134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :school more like < 1320889549 776379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"drool" < 1320889552 61209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on your self" < 1320889553 277702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because" < 1320889554 906704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"school sucks" < 1320889555 277587 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1320889564 254438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and because yu are dumb" < 1320889564 962103 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"for < 1320889565 561748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1320889567 431008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"schole" < 1320889572 595039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding monqy you are coles < 1320889810 707100 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stay in school, kids! < 1320889818 931680 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gets out his acoustic PSA guitar.
< 1320889843 477572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"st ay in school or you will be like Gregor and no cunionfs will ever be yours" < 1320889846 792639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tm)) < 1320889854 795734 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :School is cool, when you learn you rule! More bad puns because PSA's are cruel! < 1320890234 503287 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is elliott in school? < 1320890235 144022 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds elliott's time zone habits a bit mysterious.
< 1320890252 13345 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watch as they become even more mysterious: < 1320890253 384319 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: ! < 1320890399 275336 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1320890848 57464 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320890985 66896 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320891205 781575 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-169.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320891350 506702 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1320891706 363234 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-207-169.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320891708 986970 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320891911 225011 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320892414 593537 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4d0b6de9.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320892871 592633 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1320892876 924380 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Changing host < 1320892876 976798 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1320893365 574681 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1320893501 679249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So on thinking about it (= procrastinating more on the harder parts of the package manager), I'm pretty sure that the ideal solution for atomic branch-switching for me would be anything that lets me trivially emulate the following: "Have a process tree all set to source their branches from a file. The file is re-read, and every process in the tree switched to the new branches simultaneously, upon writing to a special file." < 1320893521 646918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A way to simply update the tree with a new branch list atomically without actually involving the file path in the cunionfs stuff qualifies as trivial emulation.) < 1320894627 350077 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another way to make Wordfuck variation, is, punctuation doesn't count, and word with 1 letter means to ignore this word and the next one, word with more than nine letters you put the digits according to the number of letters in the word and do the command according to their decimal digits. < 1320894657 196581 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way the example does the words not very good. Maybe the variation way writes proper wording instead. < 1320894864 458607 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the article about Lenta, I think either the instructions is wrong or the example is wrong, because it says $ move left but you have to move right to start the program given in the examples. < 1320894883 841272 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1320894976 411202 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, had an interesting idea for a CPU architecture < 1320894998 710898 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: OK. What is your idea? < 1320895022 166883 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ends up being similar to how out of order cpus work < 1320895033 303849 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1320895057 151251 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cpu with 2 modes: "RISC" mode, and what could be called "dataflow" mode < 1320895094 380474 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :risc mode works just like any other architecture and is used for all the non-performance sensitive code < 1320895139 528981 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie anything that's probably not going to be in code cache and/or does lots of memory access so it's not going to be faster than 1 op/cycle anyways < 1320895210 162637 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dataflow mode is used for small loops that churn lots of data, like say a memcopy for instance, or a sound mixing loop < 1320895249 669540 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sets up the cpu as ~30 ALUs, each leading to one register < 1320895308 525205 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :on each cycle, each of the ALUs read 1 or 2 values from the other registers, performs a math op on it, and next cycle its register will take the resulting value < 1320895330 44519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does memory interact with that < 1320895337 617933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. how does that let you do memcpy < 1320895394 566103 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the ALU ops is "load from address", will probably be only available on few of the units, and probably stall everything else on cache misses < 1320895395 578821 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320895475 88481 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the units will probably also be writing units, not doing any math ops but taking an adress and a value and writing there < 1320895641 263394 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcpy is pretty simple so it would probably look something like this: < 1320895641 667803 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :r0 = r0 + 4 < 1320895641 902383 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :r1 = r1 + 4 < 1320895641 954706 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :r2 = load [r0] < 1320895641 954862 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :rWrite: [r1] = r2 < 1320895745 106080 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously r2 will lag a cycle behind r0 so some mechanism has to be added to deal with that < 1320895837 61558 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for algos larger than the number of units, some kind of "multi cycle" mechanism would have to be used, where the operations for each unit are cycled around < 1320895927 159360 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically it's somewhere between a VLIW processor and some kind of mini-FPGA < 1320896139 36236 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oooh. Oooh. @ gets really cheap memcpy basically for free. < 1320896152 110354 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Hmm, howso? < 1320896160 507962 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rewrite the page table. < 1320896175 586888 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha nice < 1320896177 196369 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do "normal" memcpy for first/last ~4k if necessary. < 1320896178 491083 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1320896191 689887 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: That, um, might do badly if anyone mutates it :P < 1320896198 932986 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, this is nothing unique to @, but it'd be much *easier* to pull off in @ than in UNIX. < 1320896213 575707 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem rewriting the page table really copies the memory, unless you know you will never change the data afterward until the program is finished < 1320896216 942964 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if ther pages don't align? < 1320896219 237205 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's why you make it COW. < 1320896230 341576 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: heh, that would work < 1320896232 680587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: why doesn't glibc do that < 1320896242 269789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Do "normal" memcpy for first/last ~4k if necessary. < 1320896243 433718 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Because the page table is not exposed to userspace. < 1320896246 711190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see < 1320896252 499648 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah what if they don't align what now pikhq_ < 1320896259 69551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm using >4k pages so that's a common scenario < 1320896281 846076 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: works if the start/end are misaligned I guess, but afaik not if the data is misaligned? < 1320896282 124182 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: *Clearly* in @ your "memcpy" wouldn't copy from address to address, it would be more of an object clone function. < 1320896300 69607 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you merely need to have the same alignment as the original object. < 1320896342 931851 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Sooo cheating :P < 1320896344 82124 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :aligned to 4k pages? :D < 1320896356 14592 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Only by normal standards. < 1320896359 357780 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: That's not all that uncommon, really < 1320896374 158155 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ should milk the removed abstraction layers for all it's got. :) < 1320896431 22808 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously @ still *has* abstraction layers, but they're nowhere near as Carved In Stone as in traditional OS design, I'd imagine.) < 1320896440 318545 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GHC allow classes with no parameters? < 1320896479 704458 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1320896561 241026 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah the risc+"dataflow" cpu thing is kinda like an attempt at a CPUGPU :D < 1320896586 611879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cgpu < 1320896749 68423 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :might need some more parallelism for that < 1320897142 4027 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Anyway, I don't know why you'd need to clone an object. < 1320897158 271418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Since my current design still has immutable objects. < 1320897203 423669 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, then you'd be a moron to do that. < 1320897238 511098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: "@: really fast at doing something really pointless" < 1320897257 286607 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1320897271 36926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Hmm, what granularity is COW done at? Page level? < 1320897298 70296 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page level. < 1320897301 715838 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320897314 640251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It functions on page faults. < 1320897321 643601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Then it could still be useful. Consider a large (many megabyte) unboxed array's underlying storage. < 1320897338 438728 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: You want to make a copy of this storage with one word in the middle changed. < 1320897343 911959 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly. < 1320897352 565573 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're back. < 1320897356 114629 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Fiddling with the page tables means you only have to copy one page for the purpose. < 1320897363 108614 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether that makes your time zone more or less mysterious. < 1320897371 897770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I have an infinite supply of mysterions. < 1320897425 20562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Hmm, that actually sounds like a pretty big win. < 1320897442 912309 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: His time zone is very clear, his mapping from time to consciousness status is not. < 1320897446 30387 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Large immutable vectors kinda suck in GHC because you're copying all the time. < 1320897456 350398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Although, to be fair, copying even a page all the time isn't instant... < 1320897462 3112 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it beats copying hundreds of 'em. < 1320897474 438192 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1320897478 646710 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have decided I will start calling everyone LamE < 1320897510 766429 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Hmm, how easy is it to fuck with the page tables? < 1320897525 154126 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess faster than copying ~2 MiB per page whatever the circumstances :P < 1320897545 342794 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only issue is that you need to do at least a partial TLB flush when you update them. < 1320897557 439256 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, it's just mutating a fairly simple data structure. < 1320897558 584661 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I don't really have an intuition for the constant factors involved there. < 1320897587 530969 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit less than a cache miss, I think. < 1320897599 836437 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's significantly better if you only do a partial TLB flush. < 1320897614 762351 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1320897655 284080 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is something that OSes do every time they task switch. :) < 1320897668 421298 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, of course, @ would have no need to do it then) < 1320897894 589420 :gouaf!~gouaf@c-69-143-209-221.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320898140 384884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi gouaf < 1320898142 164323 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome < 1320898145 169335 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1320898217 69965 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to see some mysic esotericer who manages to conclude that "programming language" is how to describe magik rituals or something
< 1320898245 512528 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which reminds me, can someone help me with this magic spell I've been working on? < 1320898427 61916 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i wonder if being non deterministic could help making a turing tarpit with less instructions/functionality < 1320899200 493649 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's spelled "magick", I'm pretty sure, anyways. < 1320899205 983477 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, if you're not a moron, "magic". < 1320899417 492615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I wonder what @'s in-memory allocator will look like (i.e. that decides a physical address to put an object at when it's first allocated)... < 1320899426 44428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to the one that decides where on the disk to put it after a while. < 1320899440 218924 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"disk"? < 1320899455 318299 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the time the first line of code in @ is written, we'll all be using memristors, man. < 1320899533 954338 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this a proper group? mempty = Equivalence (==); mappend (Equivalence f) (Equivalence g) = Equivalence $ \x y -> (x == y) /= (f x y /= g x y); minverse = id; < 1320899880 752123 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Where "disk" means "the slowest and largest memory on the system". < 1320899891 118721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: No, that's the internet. < 1320899898 961933 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Network is the Computer. < 1320899907 351588 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. Of course it would be. < 1320899922 549034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Anyway, shaddap, I had an unwanted breakthrough about @ :P < 1320899928 953641 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that if ISPs got off their asses it wouldn't be. < 1320899960 299330 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cable can provide more bandwidth than is on my system bus. < 1320899996 501584 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How slow is your system bus < 1320900033 636643 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very. Cable is just *really* underutilised. < 1320900336 958838 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Convince me not to spend ridiculous amounts of money on some worthless bits of paper with Ryan North's signature and drawings of T-Rex drawn to hat specifications as supplied by me < 1320900381 437740 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Spending money makes you a communist. < 1320900434 334536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, quite. < 1320900439 112219 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Dinosaur Comics are, like, boring. < 1320900460 386364 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: SHUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN < 1320900495 487049 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shun magic, and shun the appearance of magic! Shun everything, and then shun shunning!" < 1320900520 945444 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Your opinions are so wrong, SO WRONG. < 1320900543 183067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dinosaur Comics is something I never have, and never will, dislike; it is the single beacon of hope that proves to me that I am essentially a good person at heart. < 1320900552 46169 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYz5qnIkf20#t=051s < 1320900593 883091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What's the best kind of hat. < 1320900612 455115 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Depends on the kind of head! < 1320900621 497285 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to go wrong with a Trilby or Derby/Bowler. < 1320900622 505745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Tyrannosaurus rex, green. < 1320900626 552240 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1320900640 88279 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For T-Rex, I'd have to say a top hat. < 1320900651 103811 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't think you understand it literally says on the site that you can specify two kinds of hat to be doodled on a doodle of T-Rex by Ryan North??? < 1320900658 523362 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you chose YES, please write briefly to whom the books should be made out and the types of hats T-Rex should be wearing!" < 1320900659 983941 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct quote??? < 1320900662 47192 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Whaaaaaaaaa < 1320900678 639592 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, in that case, you want it to be doodlerific < 1320900680 530649 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is top hat a different kind of hat from top hat? < 1320900682 766220 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Speaking of comics, did you see that great comic copumpkin linked to yesterday? < 1320900687 716606 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Which one? < 1320900697 924958 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :several < 1320900714 613758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf said singular I am betrayed. < 1320900716 205981 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I'm talking about that one that I actually read. < 1320900716 986735 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soooooo, tyrolean (yessssss) and either fez or pith helmet. < 1320900724 584584 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"read" < 1320900731 488471 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders whether to inflict it on elliott.
< 1320900735 399877 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Fez OR pith helmet. < 1320900747 926774 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pith ... fez? < 1320900836 39490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pith... fez... < 1320900841 257978 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm waaaaiting. < 1320900847 620906 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh, you want it? < 1320900851 544030 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott < 1320900852 8911 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for elliott is Thu Nov 10 04:53:27 < 1320900863 263020 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://comic.naver.com/webtoon/detail.nhn?titleId=350217&no=31&weekday=tue < 1320900864 159646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client is actually on Icelandic time. < 1320900878 557093 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't say I recommend it. < 1320900902 52646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, not that thing again. That was all over the internet weeks ago. < 1320900907 516211 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1320900916 49188 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels betrayed by copumpkin now.
< 1320900922 547631 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1320900934 400559 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how about the other comics I linked to? < 1320900935 682162 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I demand the latest in unpleasant entertainment. < 1320900937 929729 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, copumpkin had some other links that I decided not to go to after seeing that one. < 1320900944 187253 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I didn't see the links! It's all shachaf's fault. < 1320900962 684833 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's your fault because the links were posted in that one channel all the cool people go to. < 1320900971 564344 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1320900974 805163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You mean the one cheater never shuts up in? < 1320900995 295478 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, there's this NSF[W/L] COMIC OF DOOM: http://ikuikuiku.livejournal.com/53281.html < 1320901021 738220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs [W/L]s. < 1320901051 757688 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did find some way with barrier monads to do liftIO and even lift things in other monads too, but it isn't really a monad transformer and it requires the use of unsafeCoerce < 1320901065 863422 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a fairly disturbing but long http://read.mangashare.com/Uzumaki, and a much shorter http://brasscockroach.com/h4ll0w33n2007/manga/Amigara-Full/Amigara.html < 1320901106 723585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Barrier monads! Talk to zzo38 about barrier monads. < 1320901172 501749 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barrier monads have such an impressive barrier that unsafeCoerce is needed to penetrate it. < 1320901182 939569 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you want a good, depressing (but not horror) comic, read http://www.viruscomix.com/page198.html < 1320901217 733111 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: too tired to think < 1320901220 172271 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: O, that's why!!! < 1320901356 953582 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Well, fucking hell. < 1320901372 860355 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: which? < 1320901388 828084 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of two very different kinds of "fucking hell" my links would give rise to < 1320901392 556082 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one. < 1320901395 236592 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1320901423 108917 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that one's rather, um, different < 1320901453 482954 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I somehow missed that Winston Rowntree one. < 1320901492 952136 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times, eh < 1320901618 67867 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a bit unlike Winston Rowntree. < 1320901628 928677 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've come to expect more words than images from him. :P < 1320901755 22945 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype FrontIO = FrontIO (IO BackIO); newtype BackIO = BackIO BackIO; instance MonadIO (Barrier FrontIO BackIO) where { liftIO = fmap unsafeCoerce . yield . FrontIO . fmap unsafeCoerce; }; Although it is possible to make it do more, and probably in more generalized way. < 1320901782 690315 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah < 1320901812 896992 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe like this: newtype Unsafe = Unsafe Unsafe; newtype FrontT m f = FrontT (Either f (m Unsafe)); newtype BackT m b = BackT Unsafe; < 1320901879 933587 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: It's a bit hard to describe Subnormality as a webcomic, really. More of a web-illustrated-essay-series. < 1320901887 971130 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1320901897 321233 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the hell do I use ":P" so much, anyways? < 1320901908 824220 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause you gotta be upbeat after that comic < 1320901916 251101 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause otherwise you just cry :P < 1320901929 64174 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds about right. < 1320902429 101787 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1320902459 663552 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be neat to have a language where all variables can only be assigned once < 1320902647 173932 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's called static single assignment form, and it's used in the IR of any decent compiler for a language relying on mutable state. < 1320902658 987293 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLVM allows only one command to assign each variable, you cannot have multiple commands assigning to the same variable; but you can still loop and reassign them, and you can also read/write memory so you can assign however you want. < 1320902668 84517 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also isomorphic to CPS. < 1320902690 79378 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IR? < 1320902761 222776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intermediate Representation. < 1320902786 71669 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1320902889 993737 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about one where you can't reassign variables on looping :D < 1320902916 950406 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what you just asked for? < 1320902922 255538 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1320902937 236801 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that you need to keep growing arrays and have some kind of garbage collector < 1320902951 160469 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We call *that* Haskell. < 1320902960 937427 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1320902977 365697 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, really, lambda calculus. < 1320902993 700765 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though strictly speaking you can't assign any variables in LC. :) < 1320903037 386335 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried some unlambda... looks a lot like string rewriting really :D < 1320903072 748911 :gouaf!~gouaf@c-69-143-209-221.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1320903106 980468 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the strings don't really grow indefinitely afaik... they might grow (s combinator!) or shrink (k combinator !) as you evaluate it :o < 1320903171 389800 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and afaik it's clear when something has become inaccessible and should get collected :o < 1320903249 720188 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be because you have no idea how evaluation of functional programming languages works. :) < 1320903273 58189 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have any experience with that no < 1320903899 929954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: fsvo clear < 1320903908 707034 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda has a form of laziness < 1320903922 872470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i believe you can do cyclic structures < 1320903960 241703 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :will have to look into that < 1320904217 491399 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an expression in GHCi is of type (IO t) where there is no instance (Show t) is it supposed to display no error message for that? For example, return id :: IO (a -> a) displays no message. < 1320904689 113685 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Unsafe = Unsafe Unsafe; newtype FrontT m f = FrontT (Either f (m Unsafe)); newtype BackT m b = BackT Unsafe; type BarrierT f b m t = Barrier (FrontT m f) (BackT m b) t; bliftMonad :: Functor m => m t -> BarrierT f b m t; bliftMonad = fmap unsafeCoerce . yield . FrontT . Right . fmap unsafeCoerce; < 1320904700 392434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy < 1320904716 867201 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :joyest < 1320904717 806306 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapey < 1320904727 694525 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bliftBarrier :: Barrier f b t -> BarrierT f b m t; bliftBarrier = convert (FrontT . Left) unsafeCoerce; executeBT :: Monad m => BarrierT f b m t -> m (Either t (f, b -> BarrierT f b m t)); executeBT (Unit x) = return $ Left x; executeBT (Fail x) = fail x; executeBT (Barrier (FrontT (Left a)) c) = return $ Right (a, c . BackT . unsafeCoerce); executeBT (Barrier (FrontT (Right a)) c) = a >>= executeBT . c . BackT; < 1320904787 285962 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FrontT and BackT can be opaque types (without exporting their constructor), and Unsafe doesn't need to be exported at all, because it is only used internally. < 1320904843 986652 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does unsafe do < 1320904883 909417 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean the Unsafe type? It does nothing. It is only there for use with unsafeCoerce < 1320904891 170448 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you sure Unsafe should not be Any from GHC.Exts < 1320904900 107175 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way you are coercing can break < 1320904913 838621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Any it's guaranteed to work < 1320904944 734184 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes; I want to ask that too. Do you see any possibilities of breaking in my code? < 1320904961 299396 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that, no < 1320905033 508918 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any Any in GHC.Exts < 1320905062 24184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's documented in GHC.Prim < 1320905069 171752 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you import it from Exts < 1320905159 257677 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is that? < 1320905184 289161 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, internal compiler stage bootstraping blah :) < 1320905218 19197 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I fixed that in my program, now it uses Any instead of Unsafe < 1320905239 215779 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1320905368 741971 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least GHC.Prim does say to import GHC.Exts instead. And looking at the codes for GHC.Exts, it does reexport GHC.Prim < 1320905384 262597 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also says that max tuple size is 62 < 1320906661 899269 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok I have a preliminary syntax for monoassignment language < 1320906678 599011 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditions : variable = value < 1320906717 844113 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditions are = != < > <= >= comparison operators, joined together with boolean AND < 1320906767 757806 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :values are calculated with math operators, kinda like C < 1320906793 922972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :go on < 1320906833 693503 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a variable name never gets any assignment in any of the statements, it's an iterator of some kind < 1320906858 781110 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can be used in array assignments etc < 1320906903 879737 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :inputsize, outputsize, input[] and output[] are predefined for those functions < 1320906943 45322 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for instance, this partitions the input into two arrays, everything up to the first '@', and then everything else: < 1320906957 263468 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i1c[0]=1 < 1320906957 381851 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i1c[i] input[i]!='@': i1c[i+1] = 1 < 1320906957 436338 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i1c[i] input[i]='@': pend = i+1 < 1320906957 436514 :madbr!boulam@modemcable221.74-200-24.mc.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :i=pend i (Disclaimer: not actually true.) < 1320911284 854134 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm hired? what for? < 1320911294 473842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: @!!!!!!!! < 1320911301 276557 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disclaimer: I'm going to be awake very late tomorrow < 1320911324 382879 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NOOOO < 1320911842 303829 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: U+MAD? < 1320911851 845840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you bad < 1320911858 643540 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+MAD is totally a code point. < 1320911890 789286 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It matches the regexp /^U\+\w+$/, after all. < 1320911898 553549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: DevHC can't make me mad once I realised that he actually just assumes you're stupid for the first ~3 minutes of any disagreement. < 1320912008 158355 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1320912031 252856 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u not even a little bit mad? < 1320912044 464363 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm opposite mad. < 1320912067 619743 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comad? < 1320912072 264450 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomad < 1320912077 749075 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy++ < 1320912089 920582 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1320912099 873194 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose the name "nomad" instead of "comonad". < 1320912177 892328 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tend to assume people are stupid < 1320912178 626840 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1320912191 181256 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still does nlt quite understand comonads >.>
< 1320912214 276457 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: They usually are, just not in the way you expect them to be. (This is based on piles and piles of evidence, i.e. a few days in #haskell). < 1320912347 275426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You know, I think it's only a matter of time before DevHC sincerely asks me whether I mad. < 1320912349 458351 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I always mentally append "(This is based on piles and piles of evidence, i.e. a few days in #haskell)." to everything you say. < 1320912364 297385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Indeed. (I am a genius). < 1320912384 720016 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You are a genius (this is probably wrong).? < 1320912390 961934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn. < 1320912467 118022 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi (Disclaimer: not actually true.) < 1320912551 616555 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug monqy < 1320912551 867584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1320912576 484665 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1320912579 733733 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have you done < 1320912598 15298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned monqy into bug < 1320912611 18877 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to see elliott be wrong about something
< 1320912618 807257 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. < 1320912745 479100 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320912764 195365 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-12 02:00:00 i'm probably wrong, i know nothing about this stuff :) < 1320912782 918638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a joke. < 1320912786 861499 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddarius was wrong about something the other day! < 1320912787 538996 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually a genius. < 1320912790 378071 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was astonished.
< 1320913208 144299 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1320913333 661649 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1320914260 454447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (f <*> g) x < 1320914261 194275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraints: < 1320914261 350010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `SimpleReflect.FromExpr ... < 1320914262 590569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (f <*> g) x :: Expr < 1320914263 329527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraints: < 1320914263 446778 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `SimpleReflect.FromExpr ... < 1320914265 971490 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1320914271 607976 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((==) <*> reverse) "a" < 1320914272 364742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1320914272 950367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((==) <*> reverse) "ab" < 1320914273 593904 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1320914273 984556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ((==) <*> reverse) "aba" < 1320914274 696189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1320914735 177817 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (f <*> (g :: Expr -> Expr)) x :: Expr < 1320914738 91691 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : f x (g x) < 1320914815 920292 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: SimpleReflect should suck less < 1320915081 350163 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1320915156 254756 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1320915460 767081 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320915650 707589 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1320916514 710481 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320916541 469882 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320916543 958434 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1320917006 635100 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320918622 917946 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1320919043 737424 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320919104 795950 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1320919198 116872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523_ < 1320919227 39696 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1320919230 806028 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1320919458 312834 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1320919732 447437 :Aune!~Arne@h-152-28.a163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1320919765 738148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1320920094 237025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Didn't UnXis also get the SCO Group name? In the SCO bankruptcy filings since the sale, the entity formerly known as The SCO Group calls itself TSG. But UnXis *didn't* get the litigation against IBM. It's listed on the Excluded Assets. So who exactly is this asking to reopen the IBM litigation now? The filings say it's "The SCO GROUP, INC., by and through the Chapter 11 Trustee in Bankruptcy, Edward N < 1320920105 352662 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: left < 1320920125 746949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could this mean they've split up so much there is no one left who has standing to sue? :P < 1320920158 981463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(guess not.) < 1320920171 827754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it wouldn't surprise me :) < 1320920843 342626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it won't stop them suing anyway < 1320921052 701030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1320921531 123997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:45:08: unlambda has a form of laziness < 1320921531 176422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:45:22: so i believe you can do cyclic structures < 1320921533 858552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1320921542 493063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1320921546 751070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reference counting works for unlambda. < 1320921552 782231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :l a m e < 1320921780 717549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm doesn't that basically mean that you have to manage your own memory after a certain point in unlambda < 1320921789 202453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid leaks with simulation of cyclic structures < 1320921833 268461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm perhaps < 1320921860 497837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't thought much about that, since unlambda isn't really a lazy language < 1320921885 59626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however i've thought about lazy-k, which i think has that problem. < 1320921946 710185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has laziness, but no way to make something internally cyclic < 1320922033 930992 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well i think you always need cyclic structures eventually. < 1320922043 505060 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which means you need pointers, laziness, or a simulation of either. < 1320922047 839359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1320922055 632089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :All-around the music world, no a single seriously is aware of what the variation concerning a baritone and a euphonium is. I've heard reasonings of "baritones have the bell facing front" or "euphoniums expense additional." I've compiled evidence to display, with superior explanation, what the distinction among baritones and euphoniums are. < 1320922062 46249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibilities are, unless of course you've been to a brass band concert, you've never witnessed an actual British baritone. The Yamaha YBH-301 is a common British baritone. A regular British euphonium is the most widespread euphonium and looks anything like a Yamaha YEP-642. < 1320922097 18885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User:LeroyButler647 this is amazing < 1320922104 278599 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1320922106 343849 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need deleting < 1320922107 946249 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the domain is expired < 1320922171 270577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. < Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320922174 539098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1320922178 277944 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :718) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. < Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320922182 583553 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unquote < 1320922186 1394 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. < Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320922194 37014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320922196 643393 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :718) * Sgeo|web wants to see elliott be wrong about something Sgeo|web: That literally never happens. Sgeo|web: There you go. A great example. < 1320922400 868021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw expect shachaf to delete that a few times < 1320922411 192770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1320922421 30169 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf doesn't like bots knowing he exists, I think < 1320922430 200726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote shachaf < 1320922432 568786 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :624) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. \ 670) Real Tar is GNU tar. You just ignore whichever features don't make you feel superior enough. \ 708) VMS Mosaic? < 1320922483 241504 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922483 708769 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922484 230631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922484 579928 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922484 977160 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922487 18023 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :638) if all my Facebook friends were to visit a page, it wouldn't make any difference at all < 1320922493 163066 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :45) It looks like my hairs are too fat. Can you help me split them? < 1320922509 356531 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :269) who is guido van rossum you could say he's a man who grew a beard but acquired none of the associated good properties < 1320922510 129414 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :168) Sgeo: hahaah, and i love when they announced it i dare u to press alt f4 and your house ( acts 16:31 your bible) < 1320922510 986833 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :474) I can't afford one of those! A grandchild, not a laser printer < 1320922520 743261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help me dec;ide < 1320922601 933851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320922625 858402 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1320922629 24089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb me < 1320922646 459536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, all good < 1320922675 102976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok _maybe_ 638 is a bit weak < 1320922887 638189 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922888 119955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922888 627864 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922889 102329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922889 336018 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320922894 573063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's a good sign that we're running out of bad quotes < 1320922894 692606 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :303) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1320922897 823146 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :89) I can do everything a Turing machine can do, except love < 1320922898 73045 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now watch as these are all terrible < 1320922901 111583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, saved by solidity < 1320922911 619186 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :82) hmm... does anyone know a nonsense game designed for the mentally handicapped involving yelling < 1320922911 968989 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :605) this strikes me as probably better than a singularity, because you can't trust a random AI, but you can probably trust olsner < 1320922912 894896 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :24) so i can only conclude that it is flawed, or the world is utterly bonkers < 1320922954 436804 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :303 is perfect, 89 is great, 605 is funny, 24 is a heritage site < 1320922955 893524 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 82 < 1320922958 539288 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* hmm... does anyone know a nonsense game designed for the mentally handicapped involving yelling < 1320923026 875758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320923079 68461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, that was hilarious. but i guess you have to be evil to appreciate it. < 1320923178 22836 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320923178 673504 :ais523!~ais523@147.188.254.189 QUIT :Changing host < 1320923178 726309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320923722 534361 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was part of a stupid non-oerjan-quality pun that i forget < 1320923744 886436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1320924142 419436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320924142 775335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320924143 314245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320924143 903089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320924144 370295 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1320924150 227717 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :503) Game theory is not a perfect tool for analyzing video games. Nash failed to create a "video game theory" < 1320924154 217701 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :513) it actually worked, and faster than using Excel for rendering < 1320924165 70853 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :525) "Okay, got i-" "I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. SCROLL FOR ME, CHILD." < 1320924165 300773 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :444) elliott: His mouse obeys the law of the excluded middle :/ < 1320924165 652294 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :98) oklopol geez what are you doing here ...i don't know :< i actually ate until now, although i guess i also did other things... < 1320924191 867487 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :503 is A+, 513 is pretty amusing, 525 i don't get and I /said/ it, 444 is not that funny, 98 is good < 1320924194 2870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 525 < 1320924196 534681 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* "Okay, got i-" "I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. SCROLL FOR ME, CHILD." < 1320924257 318995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log "Okay, got i-" "I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. SCROLL FOR ME, CHILD." < 1320924281 96975 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-11-10.txt:11:23:16: ​*poof* "Okay, got i-" "I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. SCROLL FOR ME, CHILD." < 1320924286 600102 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:( < 1320924294 233619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i feel like `log is not as useful as it could be < 1320924509 568626 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320924667 489119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: argh! < 1320924678 272533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you deleted the page which I _specifically_ verified did not link to any spam and contained no spammy content. < 1320924702 872263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here you are http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080514 < 1320924711 153807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, wrong window. well never mind. < 1320924727 618424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for elliott < 1320924732 341954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually for HackEgo < 1320924739 494292 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A283.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320924746 159650 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with the eyes of that guy in the last panel, eyes don't work like that < 1320924765 60045 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's okay, I can add the assignments back to the topic if/when there will be more. < 1320924781 264391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :foglio isn't _always_ perfect on the anatomy. < 1320924806 119604 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you can't use "will" with "when", but how about "will" with "if"? < 1320924825 1717 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can < 1320924834 182538 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems ok to me < 1320924861 480843 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no natural way to use "if/when" in English if it applies to future... < 1320924901 551626 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just talk in Finnish, like half the channel would understand you. < 1320924910 758305 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it'd be the worst half. < 1320924927 940684 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, definitely < 1320924950 538663 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Finnish, it is quite commonplace to say "jos/kun" which is the equivalent of "if/when" < 1320924961 441488 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Finnish does not have a future tense < 1320924981 947766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the finns _have_ no future, you see < 1320924986 226432 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa < 1320924989 652668 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be it < 1320925007 724809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the country breaks all laws of mathematics and space. Time is just another box to be ticked. < 1320925021 376844 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :English-talking people, on the other hand, have no future when they're talking about when things happen < 1320925024 747212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except... not to be ticked, because that implies time passing in an orderly fashion while you tick the box. < 1320925031 526369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's another box to be made having been ticked at some point or another. < 1320925052 970520 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the thing is, we do have a past, but the present and the future are molded into one great whole. < 1320925081 402670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1320925085 790946 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now, off to work -> < 1320925092 703398 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would explain why you guys never make any sense. < 1320925099 291151 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely. < 1320925110 963970 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, the future is the worst half of time. < 1320925195 451309 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half? < 1320925209 154379 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that I have no idea how far along the universe's projected lifespan we are. < 1320925415 326266 :kmc!~keegan@184.241.55.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320925502 928652 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's "half" both if time is cyclic and if it's infinite in both directions, so I'm betting on us being halfway through the time < 1320925522 399067 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I prove to be wrong, you can collect the wins. < 1320925542 853974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: I wioll haven been gone nao < 1320925544 993886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/The/ time? < 1320925558 311587 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1320925572 226147 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have many? < 1320925574 567021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finns have arcane knowledge. Knowledge which in some sense borders on the... esoteric. < 1320925615 355474 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe I was only talking about my time, which might be also yours. < 1320925648 229823 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similarly, when I say "the world", I actually just mean the small section of the world relevant to me. < 1320925655 413476 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The world has, like, 100 people in it. < 1320925663 216313 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay probably more than that. < 1320925671 687915 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my time has all the universe in it. < 1320925682 541863 :kmc_!~keegan@174-147-98-126.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320925685 830569 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's weird, but that's now it is < 1320925701 28306 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*how < 1320925702 271031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* Finns. Always hogging the time. < 1320925713 588024 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now you know why < 1320925721 48259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost as if a question you would answer yes to is "have you got the time?"! < 1320925722 933284 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA. < 1320925740 973227 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the question < 1320925763 947235 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, Finnish has no articles, so most of this discussion doesn't really translate into Finnish < 1320925786 483293 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell whether that's an advantage or a disadvantage for Finnish. < 1320925792 73554 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the ambiguities are hard to translate. < 1320925868 970565 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I wonder whether you're talking about economics of the language, or some lewd way our life might be better/worse because we reflect this lack of articles in our way of thinking, as suggested by Sapir-Worff hypothesis... < 1320925876 156840 :kmc!~keegan@184.241.55.119 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320925945 908428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just thinking that maybe it's better for the world if we can't have discussions like these :P < 1320925970 395789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sapir-Whorf might be discredited, but it certainly helps to make things a huge pain to talk about. < 1320926008 458992 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, about economics, then. < 1320926016 994795 :kmc__!~keegan@174-146-207-66.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320926019 586208 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I forgot to start working.... < 1320926027 128809 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm going to try anew < 1320926029 851671 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think programming languages demonstrate the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis < 1320926038 58046 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than natural languages < 1320926063 695433 :kmc__!~keegan@174-146-207-66.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1320926076 76133 :kmc!~keegan@174-146-207-66.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320926117 367406 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're right, because different programming languages talk about different worlds, whereas the world referred to by most natural languages is quite similar < 1320926205 648016 :kmc_!~keegan@174-147-98-126.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320926733 66654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320927547 309170 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1320929021 848617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320929206 269258 :derrik!~xix@143.122.191.90.dyn.estpak.ee QUIT :Quit: back to school < 1320930222 225541 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-235-130.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320930234 710138 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-238-96.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320931695 56606 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320931695 724171 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320931695 776966 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320931763 31581 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320932209 969451 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320932291 806433 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1320932740 490543 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see there's another bf derivative < 1320932904 150242 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should encourage people who make bf derivatives to then make another language < 1320932911 362302 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't a bf derivative < 1320932962 224111 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at Brainlove --> Elog < 1320933182 264321 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, today I realised that I ship Telemachus and Athene < 1320933421 304088 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also also, there is an object-oriented version of Haskell called Mondrian. < 1320933430 567485 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody should right a Piet implementation in it. < 1320933468 844687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320933505 939081 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1320933535 299582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1320933543 496252 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some spam on the wiki < 1320933551 309769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a bunch of Agorans just won BlogNomic, btw < 1320933652 423157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although we agree that an Agoran dynasty would be inappropriate < 1320934062 245347 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320934062 596396 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320934062 648833 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320934074 72604 :Guest63524!~butt@ANantes-259-1-147-147.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320934163 129706 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1320934216 79584 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-206-51.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1320935490 118204 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :what with the more or less constant popularity of bf derivatives (based on number of such languages made) I think it is time to make a Funge-98 fingerprint that essentially contains some of the more popular BF-variants, such as brainfuck and boolfuck. < 1320935497 827329 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ < 1320935727 400466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't seem an obvious inference to me < 1320935803 340423 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which part of it? < 1320935820 927286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the conclusion; I said that the inference was non-obvious, not the premises < 1320935860 547448 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, there are two inferences there. One is that bf derivatives are popular, the other is that it is time to make such a fingerprint < 1320935890 505384 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320935914 80638 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320936103 49183 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess ais523 was talking about the second < 1320936176 114668 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1320936254 326990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1320936692 904545 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1320936899 350720 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A283.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320937167 221549 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE PROPHET HEN OF LEEDS < 1320937171 140653 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prophet_Hen_of_Leeds < 1320937915 655417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Thumbs up if you're tired of people thumbs uping unoriginal comments asking for thumbs up < 1320937937 847177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to figure out if the self-parody seen in YouTube comments is itself being parodied < 1320937948 434883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was the top comment, pretty obviously) < 1320937967 243144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: "This poultry article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." < 1320938235 790676 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320938286 799629 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1320938582 374341 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This tree-related article is a stub." < 1320939819 475614 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1320939876 893600 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1320942644 409868 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-28.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320942672 682413 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-2-99-91-198.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1320942686 969581 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320942687 448614 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320942687 500928 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320942700 392043 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320942894 856856 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that tree as in binary trees or trees as in the natural type? < 1320942914 449927 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-28.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tree as in Family tree < 1320942924 244409 :ive!~nn@189.179.243.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320943963 965202 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1320944091 842771 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there are only a few copies of my new book left; if you want one for christmas, order now :o" < 1320944095 649098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I MUST < 1320944111 738951 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DOIT < 1320944152 306575 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But it's like 30 quid for some awesome sketches on some paper that will probably never be used for non-pimping purposes :'( < 1320944164 377733 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-148-7-28.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320944189 340634 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIT < 1320944202 834741 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It'd probably be cheaper to fly over to America and meet Ryan North in person and ask him for hat-sketches! < 1320944210 254104 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRETTY SURE THAT WOULD COST LESS THAN 30 POUNDS < 1320944258 653321 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Canada < 1320944272 933675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Um, SAME THING? < 1320944280 13896 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair 'nuff < 1320944288 44604 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only is Canada on the American continent, but it's TOTALLY the 52nd state. < 1320944300 401565 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm ... what's the 51st :P < 1320944300 733583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I made a lie! There's no American continent! That's also a lie! There's TWO!) < 1320944305 653168 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: CLASSIFIED. < 1320944315 645632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean, I briefly forgot how many states there are. < 1320944332 48728 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods sagely.
< 1320944343 128310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wait, I have the perfect plan. You could give me 30 pounds, and I could use it to buy the Dinosaur Comic books. ??? Perfect??? < 1320944344 940856 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada is not part of the United States. Even though Canada is part of America. < 1320944446 796565 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :canada is not part of america! < 1320944456 768654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is only part of north america < 1320944471 42641 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we can tell by the fact that it is north of america < 1320944512 865925 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized the definition I have for barrier transform is slightly wrong due to: a = bliftMonad getLine; b = bliftMonad (return 42) :: BarrierT f b IO Int; c = case (b, a) of { (Barrier x y, Barrier z _) -> Barrier z y; }; main = executeBT (c >>= bliftMonad . print); < 1320944524 886322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you throw money at Amazon to use for later purchases? My mind is considering this as a very viable solution to my debit card's pending expiry. < 1320944532 401891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, like putting money into PayPal. You can do that right? Help? < 1320944550 331157 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can put money into PayPal, yes. You could also buy an Amazon gift card if you just want Amazon. < 1320944564 406231 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, I can put money into PayPal, but Amazon sure as hell don't accept PayPal :P < 1320944578 346973 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can put money into PayPal and get a PayPal debit card :P < 1320944595 702815 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I could also just... get a new card. < 1320944600 857592 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIES < 1320944613 331370 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I wonder if I could somehow buy Amazon gift cards with PayPal. Are there third-party resellers? < 1320944627 281312 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320944645 165745 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are! They even look... VAGUELY legitimate. < 1320944689 15555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like they only want to sell me the physical form though. < 1320944704 27856 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have to think of how to fix the problem. Maybe it should just be done by making BarrierT an opaque newtype, but are there any other ways? < 1320944790 797872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Basically I want all the convenience of not having to pre-allocate my money without the annoying obstacle of having to go through some kind of banking institution to do that, despite that being a very large part of their purpose :P < 1320944806 204290 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PayPal is a banking institution. < 1320944807 356616 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So nyaa. < 1320944820 526454 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Exactly! One that Amazon doesn't accept. Wow fuck Amazon. < 1320944829 798213 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, do Amazon accept Amazon Payments? I'm not joking. < 1320944835 647143 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could somehow feed PayPal funds into that. < 1320944841 440913 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: By working in cash you avoid those problems. < 1320944860 50212 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: s/avoid those problems/replace those problems with completely different, far more stupid, avoidable, and irritating ones/ < 1320944862 38366 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You can bundle up your cash carefully, attach it to an email, and send it to Amazon. < 1320944867 800708 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it is the other problem in case of paying something by computer. < 1320944878 381986 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For instance, to purchase something online I would have to feed notes into my floppy drive. < 1320944881 194707 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1320944882 797651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I haven't got one. < 1320944891 107288 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I just told you I haven't got a floppy drive! < 1320944908 108401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is certain this is how e-commerce works.
< 1320944931 377979 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to purchase Amazon gift cards at stores? If so, that solves it. Or, credit card company's gift cards? Maybe that will work. < 1320944953 650936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so :P < 1320944967 997561 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh my god, there are 10 pages of designs for Amazon email gift certificates. < 1320944970 836765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to live in this world. < 1320944992 204080 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a plain text design? < 1320945006 620577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :P < 1320945031 837940 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they have hundreds and yet they forgot a few! < 1320945086 994042 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusing.... Apparently the actual release version of Skyrim hit torrent sites one day before the official launch. < 1320945137 316176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320945140 413216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/actual release/Golden Master/ we are civilised, there are terms! < 1320945193 906478 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not quite. You know that steam allows you to download like a day or two before release but it is only decrypted on the release day? < 1320945204 555835 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, somehow someone managed to decrypt it in advance < 1320945229 16563 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and I'm not sure the concept "golden master" makes sense for steam :P < 1320945250 209923 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Golden Master is whatever the publisher uploads :P < 1320945256 207103 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1320945311 329211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this computer REALLY hates Flash for some reason. < 1320945318 680966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how so? < 1320945319 669568 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just starts lagging like shit whenever Flash stuff is going on in the background. < 1320945326 84983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No CPU pegging or anything. < 1320945330 413562 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killing the plugin fixes it. < 1320945336 245813 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw some more games were added to the voxatron humble bundle < 1320945381 675259 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I said elsewhere: Humble Bundle's business strategy is basically Katamari for games. < 1320945394 751736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ball of cash just keeps getting bigger and picking up more games. < 1320945395 221374 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: haha < 1320945436 375305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320945464 438048 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, I'll just preallocate Amazon cash beforehand. No harm in buying more gift-certificate money than I need, since I'll undoubtedly purchase from Amazon in the future. < 1320946179 472679 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320946345 698459 :Taneb!~androirc@host-78-146-174-251.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320946467 888441 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1320946606 161723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1320946625 131327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you plan to buy on Amazon? < 1320946638 519042 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Drugs. Looooads of illegal drugs. < 1320946643 524311 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1320946803 962177 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320947434 2243 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.everyherbal.com/herbalfire/salvia-divinorum-sampler-pack-p-314.html < 1320947438 720557 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :found this on google shopping. < 1320947451 830712 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a hallucinogenic plant of the mint family. also you can buy it online. < 1320947462 303778 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not Amazon. < 1320947503 286548 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well amazon doesn't /have/ semi-illegal drugs. < 1320947513 939545 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the fuck not?! < 1320947534 726792 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1320947536 978709 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have salvia < 1320947544 128662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssssssssss < 1320947547 738573 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in liquid form too. nice. < 1320947551 496827 :sllide!~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1320947556 379809 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds convenient! < 1320947559 943325 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway you don't want salvia. < 1320947569 737580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT ALL THE DRUGS AMAZON HAS TO OFFER, CAKEPROPHET. < 1320947576 546596 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's guaranteed 5 minutes of bad trip. just sayin' < 1320947594 734893 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssssssss 5 minutes of SEMI-ILLEGAL AMAZON-PURCHASED bad trip < 1320947713 972438 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes I suppose so < 1320947733 725612 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm amazon apparently doesn't have psilocybe mushroom spores < 1320947734 363155 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1320947738 871699 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are legal in most US states < 1320947746 225806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon, that's so lame of you. :( < 1320947767 675408 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite the grown mushroom caps themselves being illegal. < 1320947821 137091 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but they do have substrates specifically tailors for growing psilocybe spores. < 1320947828 966933 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tailored < 1320947829 121325 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yessssssss < 1320947837 881263 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are on SO many watchlists right now. < 1320947855 69581 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I. I am? < 1320947861 654278 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is a prime target? < 1320947884 206031 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Guest63524. < 1320947886 955785 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's FBI < 1320947894 256638 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or she. < 1320947900 950538 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320947914 521671 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: anyway you don't want salvia. < 1320947919 617432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you want saliva. < 1320947925 389211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1320947956 422569 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: uh, are you referencing the Haskell library, just regular mint, or actually salvia divinorum? < 1320947961 818636 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't want to see you high. < 1320947964 331816 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that me? < 1320947969 65467 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I you? < 1320947992 859686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: I think it is possibly the only way the Elliott IRC Experience could reach a new level of intensity. What I'm saying is, not only would I get banned, the whole UNIVERSE would get banned. < 1320948012 327447 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: You're dyslexic. < 1320948021 32666 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah yes. < 1320948022 886882 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am. < 1320948162 604325 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should make a web app framework called Psilocybe
< 1320948175 656711 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be on par with Salvia and loli. < 1320948180 584971 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of questionable names. < 1320948222 972295 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :questionably named web app things. < 1320948226 188939 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320948243 33577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :announcing my new haskell webframe work " poop" < 1320948269 749700 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: anyway you don't want salvia. <-- btw, salvia is the Swedish word for the plant "sage". < 1320948295 796559 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sages #esoteric
< 1320948307 174560 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :seels it is "Salvia officinalis" in Latin < 1320948308 725194 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_officinalis "common sage" < 1320948317 692841 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yes. < 1320948321 578150 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: beat you to that < 1320948322 916303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Isn't salvia-the-drug just a type of sage. < 1320948324 45545 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also seems* < 1320948333 818201 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have no idea < 1320948335 578743 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: type of mint. is that the same thing? < 1320948340 347641 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, obviously. < 1320948342 308399 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it peppermint? < 1320948350 339210 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1320948350 766848 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is almost ashamed he knows of 4chan's sage stuff
< 1320948373 957214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHUUUN < 1320948375 835477 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it smells kind of like tea leaves to me. < 1320948380 56235 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN < 1320948381 959394 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320948384 165797 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :minty tea leaves. < 1320948395 932659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's funny because sage doesn't even originate from 4chan anyway.) < 1320948400 677870 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming shunning is funny.) < 1320948407 744303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not funny, we're awful people.) < 1320948408 601746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, trying to run mplayer and Flash at the same time, mplayer spits out, amongst other things, "[AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1293:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p' failed (-16): Device or resource busy < 1320948408 724382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy < 1320948408 777961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed to initialize audio driver 'alsa'" < 1320948409 837016 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By we I maen me.) < 1320948412 372087 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(implying elliott assumes shunning is funny) < 1320948430 657930 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(implying tautology club is tautology club) < 1320948456 189966 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I guess you have no hardware mixer and no mixer like arts, esd, pulseaudio, whatever < 1320948467 936971 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's interesting about salvia divinorum is that no other hallucinogen is of the same chemical nature. < 1320948468 806151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Isn't that what dmix is for? < 1320948470 703387 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mplayer just isn't using that < 1320948474 653648 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure, dmix too < 1320948475 469223 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only known hallucinogen of its kind. < 1320948483 99789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I would expect that to be enabled out-of-the-box. < 1320948483 347038 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas all of the others are broadly classified into two categories. < 1320948509 103546 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does sage originate from? < 1320948512 313767 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: oh? < 1320948517 723855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsa -mixer dmix doesn't work. < 1320948519 792407 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: depends on distro < 1320948531 327701 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know for sure it isn't on arch linux. < 1320948536 554729 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C0C1.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320948547 921742 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What's doing my mixing then < 1320948559 501488 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: probably pulse audio? < 1320948564 300940 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I didn't install Pulse. < 1320948575 161406 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: or it is enabled by default on more modern installs < 1320948579 405318 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't on mine I know < 1320948583 603021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1320948674 872110 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :'A survey of salvia users found that 38% described the effects as unique in comparison to other methods of altering consciousness. 23% said the effects were like yoga, meditation or trance.' < 1320948679 839985 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell kind of yoga are these people doing. < 1320948690 28753 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPOOKY yoga. < 1320948694 234907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like yoga but with a SKULL. < 1320948717 181123 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard anyone say "yoga is great! it feels like you're melting into the floor!" < 1320948745 275214 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like you've never even DONE yoga. < 1320948756 957835 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: holy crap HOW DID YOU KNOW? < 1320949215 186493 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you make me fun. < 1320949224 309115 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1320949241 142316 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I make everyone fun. < 1320949245 905881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone is just so boring without me. < 1320949281 921610 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally they use the Latin name ("salvia") also as the Finnish name of the plant. Perhaps because it doesn't really sound very foreign. < 1320949319 177668 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://www.deuceofclubs.com/amusive/easap036.htm I'm happy ereryday. because you make me fun, don't worry let's smile < 1320949322 159793 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1320949349 92660 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320949386 472472 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And "ryytisalvia" for salvia officinalis in particular, assumedly stolen from Swedish "kryddsalvia".) < 1320949408 671311 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you finns have no originality. < 1320949417 551072 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is very true. < 1320949505 957285 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find very few references to the Mondrian programming language < 1320949520 470996 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There appear to have been at least two < 1320949565 177495 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the one the Piet page mentions, but the link there is dead. < 1320949574 928782 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_(programming_language)#Related_languages < 1320949578 205803 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No link given < 1320949654 702449 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/parsec/3.0.0/doc/html/Text-Parsec-Language.html < 1320949666 814441 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You may have landed on this page from following a link for Mondrian. This was a project originally started by Erik Meijer which then moved to New Zealand. Mondrian was a functional language specifically designed to inter-operate with other languages in an OO environment and versions existed for the JVM and CLI. Mondrian also supported ASP.NET, allowing you to embed functional language code in web pages along with C# code. The project predates our in-house Hask < 1320949666 867407 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ell work, has not been kept up-to-date with CLI releases, and we no longer make it available." < 1320949677 251823 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From http://kahu.zoot.net.nz/) < 1320949736 963982 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, can I make you my search engine? < 1320949746 80032 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an URL. < 1320949758 660458 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you support OpenSearch? < 1320949813 770543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seriously considers writing a web interface to fizzie.
< 1320949835 699038 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it is actually the same thing the Piet page is talking about, since the dude -- at http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/emeijer/ErikMeijer.html -- links to the same dead place as the Piet page. < 1320949853 24927 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is vaguely creepy < 1320949872 317579 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IIRC DMM complained that Mondrian was some kind of boring OO thing, so the description kinda fits. < 1320949891 174435 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Missing the functional aspect is understandable if a langauge is targeting the JVM and CLI.) < 1320949908 211397 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: To add to the intrigue, Parsec comes with a language definition for "Mondrian". < 1320949910 527266 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some papers on the dude's page. < 1320949917 341678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's the Haskell Mondrian,t hough. < 1320949923 760845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/parsec/3.1.2/doc/html/src/Text-Parsec-Language.html < 1320949931 921011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : { reservedNames = [ "case", "class", "default", "extends" < 1320949931 973502 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : , "import", "in", "let", "new", "of", "package" < 1320949931 973699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ] < 1320949933 360768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not? < 1320949939 572149 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/t hough/ though/ < 1320949953 871021 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/emeijer/Papers/Mondrian.pdf is probably most relevant; at least 'class' is there. < 1320949975 586619 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where have I heard of Erik Meijer before? < 1320949988 139858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh, I think he's (co-)written a lot of Haskell papers. < 1320950021 344566 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least a couple Haskell Workshop and ICFP ones, yes. < 1320950048 499459 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe you recall him from the "XML Support in VB9" paper, that sounds so relevant to your interests. < 1320950107 88335 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally. < 1320950173 668084 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320950267 406025 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cautionary tale from his page: "A few versions ago, I was know as "the banana man" because of my work on Squiggol and applying category theory to structure functional programs." < 1320950292 265859 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oh.* He's the bananas, lenses and barbed wire guy. < 1320950297 817025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains it. < 1320950334 712577 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1320950335 479221 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: acro aol austro bc bct bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes chaos chiqrsx9p choo cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd google graph hello id insanetemp jethro kraut lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh simplename slashes svedeesh swedish valspeak wacro warez wc y < 1320950344 410967 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sffedeesh swedish fish < 1320950358 822310 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: I hate you. < 1320950388 119323 :CakeProphet!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!acro < 1320950421 496357 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320950422 116605 :sebbu3!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320950422 169520 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320950503 722465 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[AUTOMATED QUERY BEGIN] < 1320950507 248918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sausages in the 18th century < 1320950507 376253 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320950510 177028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[AUTOMATED QUERY END] < 1320950545 536360 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320950610 547384 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is easily amused by 4chan.org/flash
< 1320950636 54194 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...some stuff may be NSFW < 1320950646 672164 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFW!? < 1320950648 728514 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's not why I'm amused < 1320950657 666173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is the most SFW. < 1320950659 578190 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuckity fuckity fuck. < 1320950661 531688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The words 'no', 'shit' and 'Sherlock' all come to mind. < 1320950678 642773 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Sherlock shit? Why a ban on specifically Sherlock's feces? < 1320950757 321558 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320950803 372743 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, v8 is the latest version of Flash player < 1320950810 674668 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1320950831 816299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://web.archive.org/web/20031202023619im_/http://www.research.microsoft.com/~emeijer/Media/panel.gif < 1320951824 784555 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, Hackiki now /officially/ has no users. < 1320951824 875083 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yessssssssssssssss. < 1320952182 122438 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap, I've been highlighted in #esoteric again < 1320952190 74664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scrolls back
< 1320952263 904590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 605 < 1320952270 155977 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :605) It is like the Holocaust but with Nazis. < 1320952294 62974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it must've gotten renumbered in all the deletion that happened since that log line < 1320952419 568891 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What happened :P < 1320952420 578178 :kmc!~keegan@174-146-207-66.pools.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320952440 801369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackiki.org/wiki/ ;; it disappointingly still exists??? < 1320952456 576786 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320952458 276230 :sebbu3!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1320952625 466758 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Maybe I just don't like the bot highlighting my name. < 1320952639 515600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo shachaf < 1320952666 563969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot??? < 1320952667 896743 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOT!!! < 1320953122 491571 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Fungot! < 1320953142 568970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1320953212 500355 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1320953236 776099 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320953266 75387 :Sgeo|web!ad034d00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.77.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1320953282 824216 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reappears.
< 1320953286 519290 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Explain the flood and also what you said :P < 1320953287 564656 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan < 1320953294 844854 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flood? < 1320953301 794571 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Gregor has quit (Excess Flood) < 1320953308 948554 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, that Idonno :P < 1320953320 988787 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure why I got kicked. < 1320953336 628440 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OK, Hackiki now /officially/ has no users. < 1320953338 492729 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, the one known user of Hackiki other than myself is now a known non-user of Hackiki :P < 1320953339 242269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now explain :P < 1320953342 532652 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just did. < 1320953371 838973 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Did they stop because of your SECURITY SPLOIT? :P < 1320953379 347858 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(People other than you used Hackiki?) < 1320953383 14901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, "person", I guess.) < 1320953386 935299 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Person other than you used Hackiki?) < 1320953390 907291 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never really got Hackiki < 1320953423 385431 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: He hosted a Wiki for a Unix UG on Hackiki, but through me, and was paying me for it. After not using it for two years, he decided to stop. < 1320953442 955181 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow :P < 1320953462 679736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Shoulda got him on a long-term contract. < 1320953530 618830 :Guest63524!~butt@ANantes-259-1-147-147.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr NICK :Slereah < 1320953690 443261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ngevd: I think it is possibly the only way the Elliott IRC Experience could reach a new level of intensity. What I'm saying is, not only would I get banned, the whole UNIVERSE would get banned. < 1320953698 433974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you misspelled insanity. < 1320953704 287680 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote elliott < 1320953706 700173 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :190) elliott: i like scsh's mechanism best: it's most transparent and doesn't really serve a very useful feature. \ 193) elliott: it's hard to debug havoc on your mirror if you accidentally hit r, then a character could be multiple words long, depending on the task. \ 202) elliott: My university has < 1320953730 318346 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1320953735 283814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Vorpal loves the sodomy. elliott, sure why not \ 212) [...] ALWAYS OPEN TO TRYING NEW THINGS. \ 213) So it's not exactly trivial. [Later about same thing] It's a trivial C program :P \ 220) * pikhq sticks several thousand kg m^2/A s^3 through elliot pikhq: < 1320953744 212893 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can annoy elliott by pinging his name in #esoteric, because he's always in here anyway. < 1320953745 503810 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 212 < 1320953748 7243 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* [...] ALWAYS OPEN TO TRYING NEW THINGS. < 1320953752 365173 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal just added that because of the sodomy one. < 1320953772 392747 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1320953801 686037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has gone to a secret meeting of secret bot overlords < 1320953817 330515 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am useless-fungot, I have no state < 1320953824 743843 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usless-fungot!!! < 1320953826 385621 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi useless-fungot < 1320953828 632097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we love you < 1320953831 93727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not useless < 1320953833 187328 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be friends with us < 1320953839 790600 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like friendship mouse! < 1320953841 7708 :kmc!~keegan@174-146-207-66.pools.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320953852 38834 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Kentucky Mutilated Chicken < 1320953863 774950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (this isn't part of the state, right?)S < 1320953874 903605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that is indeed pretty useless < 1320953878 975438 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command char is ] < 1320953882 385789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Keegan McSomething iirc < 1320953886 25945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ul (this isn't part of the state, right?)S < 1320953886 265217 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't part of the state, right? < 1320953888 318015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1320953890 727472 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ul (test)S < 1320953891 107880 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1320953908 821375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]raw QUIT < 1320953913 31527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1320953952 543031 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo ]ul (test)S < 1320953954 52165 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​]ul (test)S < 1320953962 242525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it still remembers its ignore list < 1320953988 452488 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure that's not HackEgo's bad feature < 1320953995 311497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :?so ]ul (test)S < 1320953995 684652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :]ul (test)S not available < 1320953995 814583 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test ...bad insn! < 1320953997 996555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1320954006 339353 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1320954009 44585 :useless-fungot!~fungot@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320954010 13964 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot! < 1320954010 588769 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: memory is automatically freed when the routine returns, no more. < 1320954018 390808 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have killed this imposter! < 1320954024 526754 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he was our friend! < 1320954032 847330 :tiffany!~kawaii@fl-76-3-17-34.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320954043 696983 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was mouse-like in friendliness! < 1320954046 479143 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you killed him! < 1320954051 22129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :revive useless-fungot fizzie :'( < 1320954051 307539 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i do get to that part < 1320954059 330434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it just freed its memory, as it said < 1320954073 546902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @echo echo < 1320954073 861162 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1320954074 287952 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1320954075 159341 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@echo echo < 1320954077 195179 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had nothing to do with any useless fungots. :/ :/ :\ < 1320954077 683497 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sounds great. what kind of comments were you looking for? ' l' is the ' title' sed -e ' s//')" /usr/ bin/ fnord < 1320954119 73563 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEORY: useless-fungot was Deewieant. < 1320954119 789843 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: undefined method `empty' for :array fnord fnord fnord return fnord fnord y fnord z) ( 5 t))))(if ( i 20)(cons y ( g ( fnord, < 1320954155 190265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thence whom htv.fi???? < 1320954162 569583 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you use the IP-ADDRESS MATCHING MACHINE to corraboramorate that theory. < 1320954182 772537 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't HAVE one of those. < 1320954184 483688 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be useful. < 1320954193 914723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :etacorroborrocate < 1320954203 814312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep cs27125254.pp.htv.fi /var/logs/_esoteric/????-??-??-raw.txt < 1320954204 557565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fizzie's right, /whowas useless-fungot matches /whois Deewiant < 1320954204 981824 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm getting lowest ping delay ever, fnord ms to the nearest mark. < 1320954205 927518 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: /var/logs/_esoteric/????-??-??-raw.txt: No such file or directory < 1320954223 517102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have run a really complex UL program on useless-fungot < 1320954224 19085 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cfunge use no external libraries that rely on mutation with precisely mutative operations. linear-update operations may be fnord, just not doing a dns lookup :p < 1320954235 343643 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My THEORY was /right/? < 1320954241 328904 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you make of this? < 1320954241 971282 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: no! type safety really means safety. c++ does not belong to the set < 1320954264 169457 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way the MACHINE works, you set up these numbered balls to resemble IP addresses, and then the balls go to the large drum, and then it rotates, and then you get 7 matching numbers and win millions. Plus three extra numbers. < 1320954330 474272 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it uses IPv6!? < 1320954339 456154 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just put in more balls. < 1320954365 765574 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE < 1320954390 146938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nanoballs < 1320954390 628446 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, that takes balls to pull off < 1320954413 146302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a drum the size of half of earth < 1320954464 606676 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or has the art for Freefall suddenly improved? < 1320954489 436117 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there has not been a "HTV" (for "Helsinki TeleVisio") in quite a while; it's been "Welho" since 2006, and I think it's "DNA Welho" now that Sanoma sold the cable TV/Internet business to DNA. < 1320954535 266704 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, I assumed it was like... Helsinki Technology Vuniversityof. < 1320954590 63896 :ive!~nn@189.179.243.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320954608 493502 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the old "hut.fi" names. < 1320954610 435795 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should do a Rubik's cube where you have to assemble it into the entire 16-bit RGB colour space. < 1320954614 919075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big would that be? < 1320954624 618797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: how so? < 1320954628 988624 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, not 16-bit. < 1320954629 782622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :24-bit. < 1320954634 448958 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, #ABCDEF. < 1320954640 371627 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1320954644 743189 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this work-box. < 1320954652 688680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: GET ON THE MATHEMATICS < 1320954653 250517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ABBREVIATE IT! < 1320954659 714885 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ?????????????///////// < 1320954671 167473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjudicated blind collaborative… < 1320954674 846100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget where it goes from there < 1320954678 944843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1320954681 445974 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, dunno, it just seems to have < 1320954693 470515 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something esolang factory < 1320954700 210180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my eyes don't really notice anything... < 1320954710 904235 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I accidentally joined #esoteric of IRCnet first. There was a single person on the channel, and the topic said something about esoteric philosophy. < 1320954730 548863 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you at least say "hi"? < 1320954732 112325 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESIGN < 1320954732 815506 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY, somewhere to point people! < 1320954759 889988 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, I /part'd in a huff. < 1320954761 384917 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, there are only three IRC channels on one server < 1320954772 10624 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric, #esoteric-minecraft, and #darths < 1320954773 905564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: the idea is that we can tell people to go there if they're coming here for the wrong esoteric < 1320954774 636159 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: That's a bit rude. < 1320954776 66634 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On irc.esper.net < 1320954782 904128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: Why can't I connect to irc.ircnet.org < 1320954801 588611 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320954801 814760 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320954801 867534 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320954803 86357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I insufficiently European < 1320954821 365873 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://irc.tu-ilmenau.de/all_servers/ < 1320954836 858072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your europeanness is exceedlingly brittle < 1320954841 706723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-l < 1320954855 495628 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ix.irc.at has the most accurate description. < 1320954866 383167 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am more European than most Brits. < 1320954867 594598 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I like how the form's broken < 1320954879 640856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ircnet doesn't have a central send-to-random-server < 1320954888 922822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Freenode does < 1320954892 751639 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for #esoteric is: EsotericPhilosopher.com - Esoteric Philosophy < 1320954892 805054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Topic for #esoteric set by Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at Wed Nov 9 17:48:40 2011 < 1320954892 805230 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Users on #esoteric: elliott @Cocytus < 1320954899 180489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC < 1320954899 298110 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network: Freenode < 1320954899 350547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Channel: #Philosopher < 1320954912 422425 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make friends with him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait no he's probably awful. < 1320954916 132334 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1320954918 796130 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what I'm going to do. < 1320954922 908685 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to start talking about esolangs in there. < 1320954927 271004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PAYBACK TIME, BITCHES < 1320954932 799458 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's going to be all confused how popular the channel suddenly is. < 1320954986 907482 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh no. < 1320954991 180115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: My #esoteric tab went red. < 1320954994 88808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That means there's messages. < 1320954996 931520 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too embarrassed to look. < 1320955005 88772 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's me < 1320955005 394408 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEONE JOIN ME FOR SUPPORT < 1320955007 892994 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry < 1320955009 435806 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good. < 1320955013 55058 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320955016 722894 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite many (at least the .fi) IRCnet servers only allow "local" (for some values of) people; ideally you'd just connect to the server of your university/ISP. < 1320955017 122996 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that channel is mainly Hexhamers < 1320955022 37141 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1320955032 634011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just connected to xs4all's. < 1320955035 382136 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's, you know, access for all. < 1320955054 225244 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ISP's server is on the other side of the country and my university's sucks so I use fizzie's ISP's < 1320955072 628761 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, Nebula has generic-enough I:lines for that? < 1320955075 668269 :DCliche_!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320955094 824223 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why you be dissin' irc.cs.hut.fi, it's not that bad. < 1320955106 19373 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what an I:line is but the connection works so I guess so < 1320955110 209491 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in permanent split-mode :-P < 1320955122 369494 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol? < 1320955145 940138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think I:lines are IP whitelists or something. < 1320955148 491180 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To keep the foreigners out. < 1320955160 21801 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yes < 1320955162 657093 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would've been my guess < 1320955180 686042 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/stats I" -- I see there's a 0.0.0.0/0 catch-all line nowadays. < 1320955191 494754 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are the haps on IRCNet, I want to see people talk Finnish < 1320955230 888555 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could consider #linux.fi, I've been banned from there once or twice, for associating with the wrong sort of people. < 1320955232 148859 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't see that < 1320955256 991956 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I do see *@*.pp.*.fi, though < 1320955276 997845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The "wrong sort of people"? < 1320955284 565736 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1320955284 855134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Cannot join #linux.fi (Channel is invite only). < 1320955288 483376 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not Finnish enough. < 1320955288 559410 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you know, Swedes < 1320955289 874944 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, crap, I'm actually on cs.hut.fi, darn < 1320955304 502942 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been on nebula though :-P < 1320955316 685461 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [fizzie] @!4QPSPt934400 @#irtie @#getnolife #douglasadams #!/usr/bin/ff < 1320955321 685281 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:01 [ircnet] -!- #linux.fi: invite 246*!*@* < 1320955321 737495 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:01 [ircnet] -!- #linux.fi: invite *!*@*.fi < 1320955326 731822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wasn't !4QPSPt934400 the one I invaded last time? :p < 1320955328 96697 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you need to be Finnish enough. < 1320955328 463946 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wow. < 1320955329 71718 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :getnolife? < 1320955349 429327 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : 22:01 [ircnet] -!- #linux.fi: invite 246*!*@* <-- uh < 1320955351 446494 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1320955364 787211 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does that invite even make sense < 1320955366 271551 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That's for the autogenerated nicknames. < 1320955372 151499 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: uh? < 1320955384 80290 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They get the server number prefix thingie-thingie, 246* matches Finland. < 1320955387 646059 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1320955396 329343 :fizziew!~htkallas@pc112.ics.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: For the current IRCnet "handle nick collisions by renaming" thing. < 1320955421 514872 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1320955432 516668 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually it was !4OOW7t934400 at that time; it managed to become empty and therefore got a new random ID generated. < 1320955444 151436 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: Can I forge a .fi hostname easily? I want to join the #linux.fi gang. < 1320955453 2734 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely IRCnet is lawless enough for that. < 1320955469 430077 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to find a really hippie server with a /changehost command. < 1320955495 327109 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether IRCnet servers generally do a forward-lookup check. It could be they just trust reverse DNS as-is. < 1320955536 30209 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I doubt I control my reverse DNS :P < 1320955539 20074 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case you'd need to just fake that. < 1320955546 748239 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It would be great if they used the old USER syntax and believed the hostname you gave it. < 1320955579 761281 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, but you could control it for e.g. a Hurricane Electric and/or SixXS IPv6 tunnel or whatever. (Though SixXS would then ban you for "DNS spam".) < 1320955622 516990 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wouldn't say #linux.fi would be worth it. < 1320955632 5206 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can join an empty channel and ban yourself to get the same experience. < 1320955638 361768 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1320955661 731134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: So how big would that Cube be < 1320955722 624040 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Cube < 1320955743 667387 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 128x128x128 I thought? < 1320955759 497468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : They should do a Rubik's cube where you have to assemble it into the entire 16-bit RGB colour space. < 1320955759 549819 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : How big would that be? < 1320955760 159808 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Uh, not 16-bit. < 1320955760 212797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24-bit. < 1320955760 212896 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : You know, #ABCDEF. < 1320955767 249113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How big physically, I mean :P < 1320955784 242434 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Nah, you can't see the colours on the inside, obviously < 1320955795 237329 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you rotate the result around fully, you should see every 24-bit RGB colour < 1320955804 804364 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a spectrum < 1320955827 207761 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt (2^24/6) < 1320955827 941361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1672.184997739983 < 1320955871 606270 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also #getnolife was a sort of a splinter group of "Irti Elämästä ry"; you can try to Googlelate http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irti_El%C3%A4m%C3%A4st%C3%A4 though I doubt it will much help. Both are defunct now. < 1320955876 686047 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1320955877 172169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1320955882 285820 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway that was a a322 reference < 1320955906 88373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Boredom, and epäviileyden nörttiyden promotion. < 1320955906 757751 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1320955925 380683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rautio, May Day: Nerd culture increases -> (and destruction?) [_ Protu (Journal) . 2005 # 2. Prometheus Camp Association. Subsequent 26/11/2009. < 1320955931 462554 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like something fungot would say. < 1320955931 588934 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unlambda is weird < 1320955934 755296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha. < 1320955946 652319 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320955969 578026 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "The rise (and fall?) of nerd culture" would be a more apt translation of the title. < 1320955986 730245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer "Nerd culture increases -> (and dsetuction?) [_". < 1320955992 682491 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dsetuction/destruction/ < 1320956137 412835 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The original organization organized a "nerd attack" to the Helsinki main railway station in 1999; the main thing I recall from that was that they IRCed from inside the storage lockers of the railway station -- cf. http://www.protu.fi/lehti/lehti2-05/kuvat/nortit_lokeroissa_iso.jpg < 1320956149 641934 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made the "main" newspapers and all. < 1320956150 751904 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why am I not this cool??? < 1320956188 175688 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it all sort of fizzled out pretty soon. < 1320956218 50404 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I wasn't lying < 1320956220 231952 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1320956378 442667 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have I mentioned how I think (safeWriteIORef :: IORef a -> a -> b -> b) is safe? < 1320956389 791850 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :safeWriteIORef ref v a = unsafePerformIO (writeIORef ref v >> return a) < 1320956418 790048 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the b < 1320956428 413647 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: As opposed to < 1320956436 609540 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people were annoyed when the social side (meetings and all that) was starting to dominate the organization; there was a (democratic) coup, and then the newly elected government disbanded the organization and started the "People's Democratic Irti Elämästä", while the people who liked being social started "Getnolife". I don't think either one of the new organizations survived for so very long. < 1320956441 185457 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: IORef a -> a -> a < 1320956452 735091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Returning what, v? < 1320956456 72390 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yep < 1320956457 451781 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't ever a member of any of these, just sort of watched from the sidelines. < 1320956461 475386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Less general < 1320956466 529443 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (Don't say seq, you need pseq) < 1320956478 351276 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, the irtie folks were in fact the "wrong people" associating with whom got me banned from #linux.fi. < 1320956509 504265 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320956524 911621 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1320956525 747028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why is Finnish culture so fucking interesting :( < 1320956526 765994 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was going to say that you don't need the generality for anything but I guess it's easier than using pseq < 1320956530 919892 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have no IRC gangs! < 1320956538 768566 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: pseq isn't standard < 1320956547 948859 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure "culture" is the right word here, and this was all long time ago, there's nothing interesting going on in modern-day Finland. < 1320956551 775352 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: unsafePerformIO and writeIORef are? < 1320956559 605211 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: unsafePerformIO is in Haskell 2010 < 1320956566 682301 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: writeIORef is? < 1320956569 479853 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1320956578 725150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, no, surprisingly enough < 1320956581 284298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's ubiquitous < 1320956583 828106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseq ain't < 1320956628 525046 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess pseq a b = unsafePerformIO (a `seq` return b) is a portable pseq :) < 1320956769 657489 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320956798 546803 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i was going to refer you to this room. but i had a feeling you were already here. < 1320956807 322446 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1320956822 756971 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1320956831 467705 :ive!~nn@189.179.243.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320956839 86570 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320956886 508270 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(elliot, phantom_hoover) < 1320956886 560716 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott* < 1320956928 873453 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, dammit < 1320956932 891983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've been here before haven't you :P < 1320956938 970846 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :our beautiful prank ruined forever :'( < 1320956982 551953 :Cocytus!~Cocytus@c-76-19-169-95.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1320957036 809422 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-74-65-236.telstraclear.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957037 325220 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@121-74-65-236.telstraclear.net QUIT :Changing host < 1320957037 377828 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957053 193658 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320957078 606685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320957098 174337 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957098 924318 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-18-62.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1320957098 979457 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957180 120792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957204 88913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CakeProphet: "you" = ? < 1320957284 452281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weak (MVar (HashMap a (Weak b))) < 1320957287 435999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: behold my beauty < 1320957293 733123 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in < 1320957295 112386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the form of a type < 1320957346 379319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a type < 1320957350 67855 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1320957353 571800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not very good at admiring type beauty < 1320957364 639227 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does it help if you know that Weak is a weak pointer? < 1320957367 148274 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and MVar a mutable reference? < 1320957378 257170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language is this? < 1320957381 212480 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell < 1320957387 661282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it, umm, makes it worse < 1320957395 690991 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse in a /beautiful/ way < 1320957465 784090 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957493 230516 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1320957807 474454 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320957826 211369 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember when we made ABCDEF...G? < 1320957858 130811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you've been here before haven't you :P <-- i thought the nick looked familiar < 1320957877 516096 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: insufficient horror at the safety of safeWriteIORef < 1320957929 278267 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ooh, I'm Finnish! < 1320957936 784357 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Quite. < 1320957938 377230 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows little of Finnish culture, though. :-(
< 1320957948 895666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't understand why that would be considered safe... < 1320957950 976735 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's based around IRC and the demoscene. < 1320957958 221400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it has no observable side-effects outside of IO < 1320957970 6435 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think that's hwo Finnish culture works... < 1320957993 45631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and, of course, with things like StableNames and so on, we find it perfectly acceptable to be able to observe more about the evaluation of pure expressions than the semantics allow, so long as it is in IO < 1320958005 590070 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: BTW, I think Data.IORef is standard, since you can implement it in terms of the FFI < 1320958016 632021 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hmm < 1320958019 975592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess only for Storable types < 1320958034 429500 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1320958038 285618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it in terms of mutable arrays methinks < 1320958048 598687 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish culture has no observable side-effects outside of IO!? < 1320958051 320400 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which aren't standard >_< < 1320958095 237075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1320958096 683536 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :StablePtrs < 1320958098 927424 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let you do it < 1320958106 459405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: it's the truth! < 1320958126 774629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the finns are a pure people < 1320958194 70129 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm < 1320958199 724353 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :StablePtrs are immutable < 1320958208 868163 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1320958210 573674 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they're Storable < 1320958261 213565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: iirc that's how the reflection package worked < 1320958286 64478 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see philosophy guy caught onto us < 1320958300 48975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I have a workable implementation :) < 1320958302 700966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype IORef a = IORef (ForeignPtr (StablePtr a)) < 1320958304 160944 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :strategy, that is < 1320958311 58721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION briefly wonders why he's implementing portable IORefs
< 1320958368 541367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :briefly? what made you stop wondering? < 1320958378 283332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to maintain the illusion that there will ever be a non-ghc-based full haskell implementation again < 1320958441 246220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc is like this beast that just keeps growing type tentacles < 1320958551 545634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some time in the next 2-3 years someone (perhaps named kiselyov) will discover that ghc's type system has grown to the point of supporting a full embedded dependent type system by accident < 1320958561 20613 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia: all natural numbers are one less than another natural number < 1320958561 73136 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This works backwards almost all the time < 1320958735 303922 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oerjan: http://sprunge.us/Qcjg < 1320958741 903905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore Data.IORef is standard, Q.E.D. < 1320958760 749775 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkFinalizer? < 1320958779 564109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: < 1320958779 843874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :foreign import ccall "wrapper" < 1320958779 896713 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : mkFinalizer :: (Ptr a -> IO ()) -> IO (FunPtr (Ptr a -> IO ())) < 1320958785 189924 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes..... < 1320958789 111711 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't look "standard" < 1320958789 349528 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch8.html < 1320958794 956260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grep /wrapper/ < 1320958876 813310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc: error: a C finalizer called back into Haskell. < 1320958876 941807 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : This was previously allowed, but is disallowed in GHC 6.10.2 and later. < 1320958876 995662 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : To create finalizers that may call back into Haskell, use < 1320958876 995980 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Foreign.Concurrent.newForeignPtr instead of Foreign.newForeignPtr. < 1320958877 964493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swoot < 1320959038 31039 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But yes, all that's perfectly standard apart from my maybe-broken finaliser < 1320959185 846656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit America, stop worrying me with your absurdly terrible job market. < 1320959219 350671 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Actually no, my code is perfectly fine, GHC just disallows it for performance reasons :) < 1320959226 639839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just worry about italy instead < 1320959232 264625 :songhead95!4a68a59d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.104.165.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320959242 811678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi songhead95! < 1320959244 750321 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rotting sea life < 1320959246 737267 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a wasp. < 1320959246 790287 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my pillow. < 1320959246 790442 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advice? < 1320959246 882907 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :99) think of all the starving kids in china who don't have rotting sea life to eat < 1320959252 591768 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep. < 1320959258 59970 :songhead95!4a68a59d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.104.165.157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love < 1320959263 743485 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep on it < 1320959265 441372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh; Italy doesn't blend with my perception of things like the US does. < 1320959272 88259 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd, magma. < 1320959273 982519 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Friendship wasp < 1320959288 455434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: empty glass < 1320959312 393095 :songhead95!4a68a59d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.104.165.157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might somebody be able to tell me why my should-be brainfuck interpreter doesn't interpret brainfuck? < 1320959316 318454 :songhead95!4a68a59d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.104.165.157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/5QhHSfA0 < 1320959322 913527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+something to slide between < 1320959337 184037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no that is not in the spirit of friendship < 1320959348 698130 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I waved my pillow around outside my window for a bit < 1320959354 511296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :songhead95: i note that you don't have any code to handle [ < 1320959357 853466 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not on my pillow anymore < 1320959358 776374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :animal friendship: animal husbandry for the 21st century < 1320959360 180106 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :songhead95: what about when you hit [ and the cell is 0? < 1320959423 124794 :songhead95!4a68a59d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.104.165.157 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whoops < 1320959446 17164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wow, Oracle are alleging that Google copied which classes inherit from which other classes < 1320959453 472067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1320959493 148720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : According to Oracle’s java.util API specification, the Hashtable class is a subclass of Dictionary, and implements three interfaces: Serializable, Cloneable, and Map, which are found in the java.lang, java.io, and java.util packages, respectively. This organization is hardly intuitive or preordained, but Google copied it. Android’s Hashtable class is likewise a subclass of Dictionary, and implements the same three interfaces, with the < 1320959494 642060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same three names, found in the same three corresponding Android packages. < 1320959576 133315 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, Hexham beat Stobswood 8 2 < 1320959581 580268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it is done: http://hpaste.org/53881 < 1320959587 701812 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a moment 'till I find out what sport < 1320959604 594037 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320959617 291819 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1320959619 752940 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Football. < 1320959820 491279 :DCliche_!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1320960431 723752 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Where's Stobswood? < 1320960533 620200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really exist, they just made it up to make the hexhammers feel better about their football team. < 1320960661 126592 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: morpeth, apparently < 1320960664 763294 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.co.uk/maps/vt/data=Ay5GWBeob_WIPLDYoIWcfVXxvZu9XwJ55OX7Ag,C5cdt2A5CfGdk67NP3fQV7xwKKLsYcHz8F-9A1U08Az-t3JBJy4hche_-np_WGhzG-UwL4AZsYR5Ig < 1320960667 761221 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they found the most boring place < 1320960680 607271 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widdrington_Station_and_Stobswood population 120 < 1320960921 862430 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric : According to Oracle’s java.util API specification [...] <-- are they complaining about google following the spec? < 1320960937 754210 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1320960941 93691 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why!? < 1320960958 559418 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :money < 1320960970 349675 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1320961022 419617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they're complaining about Google copying parts of the spec, whilst not implementing others < 1320961039 857320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, they're alleging copyright infringement of the Java API < 1320961045 954917 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, dragonborn (which iirc show up in D&D?, and now also in Skyrim) make little sense < 1320961050 360111 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you actually think about it < 1320961056 490480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of the arguing that's going on is about whether this is a meaningful concept or not < 1320961066 774590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's a D&D4 thing, I think; probably from a D&D3 splatbook < 1320961067 920750 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that genetically it wouldn't work either < 1320961078 289642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantasy: genetically accurate < 1320961099 59031 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but also think what it means. Some human did what with a dragon!? < 1320961113 620468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in D&D, dragons can shapechange at will < 1320961122 848812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably it happens while the dragon is in human form < 1320961123 400713 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm okay < 1320961127 778818 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay < 1320961131 167008 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It would be more unrealistic to /not/ have that happen! < 1320961159 349964 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well yes if you /had/ the concept of dragonborn you need something like that. < 1320961175 451936 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm questioning the whole concept as it were < 1320961177 511882 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1320962054 609767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on the iwc forum pointed out that tomorrow's iwc rerun will be no. 11, and appear at 11:11 MET 11/11/11 < 1320962094 702683 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1320962104 790332 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you know: you'll be over 50 once iwc finishes rerunning < 1320962115 771992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1320962150 523486 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320962397 649630 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1320962455 641003 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1320962777 749757 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320962784 781753 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1320962793 444474 :airells!~as@bnm195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1320962800 808299 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD NEWS, ESOLANGERS! < 1320962808 974850 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done some work on XSLT S and K < 1320962814 230764 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND IT WORKS FOR ONE ITERATION < 1320962825 14586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1320962826 274555 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can turn SKKx to Kx(Kx) < 1320962832 190981 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine worked for one iteration, too. < 1320963494 158895 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C0C1.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320963836 54487 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320963940 718330 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1320964176 644735 :Darth_Cliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320964219 980754 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320964245 792259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320964363 607849 :DCliche!~Darth_Cli@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1320964706 681458 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320964902 250863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Result! < 1320964913 681206 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've hopelessly confused someone in #Philosopher! < 1320964923 450225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STRIKE ONE FOR ESOLANGS < 1320965047 414110 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320965060 347274 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, how? < 1320965096 130858 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't //app[./*[position()=1]/*[position()=1 and self::k] or ./*[position()=1]/*[position()=1]/*[position()=1 and self::s]] work? < 1320965116 247359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs Sut-Heb < 1320965127 51671 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25178 < 1320965129 381790 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1320965129 860070 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: language files code comment comment blank total iirc) are *evil* < 1320965137 833425 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I'm all bold < 1320965138 419569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh my god. < 1320965141 670643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, so is Philosopher a Brainfuck derivative? lol < 1320965141 790323 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you;ll be brainfucked you stick around long enough < 1320965141 843063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : So is that a yes? < 1320965141 843248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : well thats if you stimulaed by the esoteric arts < 1320965141 843353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if not then you'll just think where out of our mindzx < 1320965142 143205 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yesyesyes but is it a Brainfuck derivative/ < 1320965142 265011 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That guy's been in here too. < 1320965144 163683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : so what borught you here? < 1320965146 197798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A desire to purge all Brainfuck derivatives. < 1320965148 245554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I am like the Terminator except more so. < 1320965149 326138 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's literally a refugee for stupid #esotericers. < 1320965150 190355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : brainfuck derivitive's what do you mean by that < 1320965160 233250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop flooding you idiot Phantom_Hoover Phantom_Hoover BOTH THOSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN HERE BEFORE < 1320965161 449204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S AMAZING < 1320965175 150259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Object_(programming_language) < 1320965176 288113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1320965181 552321 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE SURROUND THEM < 1320965184 991762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good news and bad news < 1320965198 794436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good news is that it's not obviously a BF deriv < 1320965201 389172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good news: we have two places to send people who come here for the wrong reasons < 1320965206 173367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bad news: they're both awful < 1320965225 633485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bad news is, well just look at it < 1320965246 790049 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at least the syntax highlighting is pretty < 1320965262 635463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: article violates two policies < 1320965265 61421 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the least < 1320965265 878042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm unsure whether that's syntax highlighting or part of the source < 1320965269 202087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you tell what they are? < 1320965270 522727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other one? < 1320965274 49805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1320965274 658198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the first one? < 1320965276 979752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :userpage link, category? < 1320965278 982847 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1320965281 19052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the userpage pothole < 1320965289 789547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also not linked from anywhere it should be < 1320965298 210346 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good thing about Graue's rules is, they're really good at annoying people < 1320965303 126631 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when they're stupid rules < 1320965303 443251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's not enough information to figure out how to categorise it < 1320965316 142357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually like the no-userspace-potholes rule < 1320965330 9311 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's reasoanble enough. < 1320965332 503723 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as for the cats rule, if it gets rid of articles like that I can live with the false positives ;P < 1320965345 221203 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no unauthorised cats < 1320965347 967078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will not be fed < 1320965404 995292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote matrix of solidity < 1320965407 79832 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :301) enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity < 1320965419 73957 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What has he said after not gbeating around the bush. < 1320965423 323410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have an esolang based on the matrix of solidity concept yet? < 1320965431 772431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nothing. < 1320965435 351375 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1320965446 456308 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it would inevitably fail to live up to expectations < 1320965464 759794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The esolang... is us. < 1320965472 309166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's IRP, isn't it? < 1320965484 497083 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that esolang is certain parts of us projected onto the internet. < 1320965487 670684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The matrix of solidity is literally us. < 1320965524 946232 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh dear, Cocytus has /msg'd me. < 1320965528 280247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid to check the tab. < 1320965553 962533 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, it's okay, a mentality is transcendent. < 1320965570 617204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Freenode is the most reliable network for IRC and the most secure." -- http://www.esotericphilosopher.com/chat/ < 1320965578 241969 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you say... < 1320965600 452871 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, could you delete [[User:Ehird/sandbox]]? < 1320965647 668578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: after making sure you aren't burying the history of something, yes < 1320965652 747081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody tell Timwi about the Symbol of the Day. < 1320965662 364619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hermitian matrix of solidity < 1320965663 656075 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Damn! < 1320965682 439780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for elliott to come to a realisation
< 1320965731 132998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleted, anyway < 1320965748 423855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what was it? < 1320965760 762794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What realisation? That wasn't damning you. < 1320965764 609467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was just damning... the empty string. < 1320965768 61785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know < 1320965772 34356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I didn't get annoyed < 1320965774 549216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought it was amusing < 1320965775 695114 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1320965777 983004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in context < 1320965797 410479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn "you" < 1320965801 174871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string, that is. < 1320965825 231206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also a bizarre operation < 1320965831 558492 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn damning. < 1320965835 990977 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And damn damnation. < 1320965838 16097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And damn "damn". < 1320965842 815495 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, damn you! < 1320965844 924883 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1320965850 615242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jean claude van damn < 1320965859 452604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why? that's an incredibly mean thing to do on such minor motivation < 1320965871 776168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I thought you believed it, I'd be furious < 1320965875 115759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it is, I'm merely angry < 1320965882 963063 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, #xml should help me with my XSLT problems < 1320965890 196330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, actually angry, or theoretically angry? < 1320965897 252804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone fear the hoover damn < 1320965902 843802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: actually, believe it or not < 1320965951 318482 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that's an awful lot of effort to go to for the sake of being quirky. < 1320965961 44139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: anger takes /effort/? < 1320965965 421882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's suppressing anger that takes effort < 1320965969 976614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when people say such mean things < 1320965982 227135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover discovers that not everybody shares his value system. < 1320965990 371609 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're forcibly ignoring about three different aspects of standard human communication. < 1320966029 935711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: people using words with meanings other than their actual meanings confuses me, to some extent < 1320966039 191781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because communication makes no sense if people do it too often < 1320966040 968097 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest we pester #philosophy < 1320966042 46971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, butterfly < 1320966054 718278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we've done that before < 1320966058 162222 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all boring < 1320966070 652422 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1320966142 910199 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1320966143 899067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1320966162 904730 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: god says he's taking it back on behalf of ph, btw < 1320966273 626289 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, I just read a usenet post by "alex23" in rec.games.roguelike.development convinced you wrote it < 1320966288 839000 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wondering why it was so bizarrely out-of-character < 1320966288 906316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1320966457 154956 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1320966457 415320 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1320966526 501070 :airells!~as@bnm195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl PART :#esoteric < 1320966547 825916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def ping ul (pong!)S < 1320966548 57034 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1320966551 122708 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ping < 1320966552 642462 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1320966557 212916 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320966566 383202 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c puts("Pong!"); < 1320966567 111892 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping installed. < 1320966568 309300 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320966580 384318 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1320966597 182586 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ping < 1320966597 535164 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping deleted. < 1320966604 920830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c ( < 1320966605 278209 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping installed. < 1320966606 169890 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320966609 247078 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320966612 337174 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ? < 1320966629 659266 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320966670 286581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ping < 1320966670 405628 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong! < 1320966687 243119 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^def ping ul (pong!)S < 1320966688 224924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: EgoBot's interpreters haven't worked for weeks < 1320966693 478830 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *sigh* < 1320966695 670732 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ping < 1320966696 54456 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping deleted. < 1320966701 762431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c puts("Pong!"); < 1320966702 114396 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping installed. < 1320966703 399926 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320966707 516076 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll work when they do < 1320966716 807834 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ping < 1320966717 154048 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping deleted. < 1320966718 694585 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c puts("Pong."); < 1320966719 84093 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping installed. < 1320966719 671905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :too happy < 1320966726 813401 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1320966771 983909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c puts("Pong!"); < 1320966814 556093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show ping < 1320966835 981324 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1320966843 364311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1320966843 754116 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1320966857 655386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help userinterps < 1320966858 8657 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​userinterps: Users can add interpreters written in any of the languages in !help languages. See !help addinterp, delinterp, show | !userinterps. List interpreters added with !addinterp. < 1320966881 499551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show swedeesh < 1320966895 288879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1320966895 523395 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Installed user interpreters: acro aol austro bc bct bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore bytes chaos chiqrsx9p choo cpick ctcp dc decide drawl drome dubya echo ehird elmer fudd google graph hello id insanetemp jethro kraut lperl lsh map monqy num numberwang ook pansy pi pikhq ping pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler prefixes python redneck reverse rimshot rot13 rot47 sadbf sanetemp sfedeesh sffedeesh simplename slashes svedeesh swedish valspeak wacro warez < 1320966904 410740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show svedeesh < 1320966934 574408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow show doesn't work though the rest of those special commands do < 1320966947 860474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show numberwang < 1320966973 969236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does !show actually do anything at all? < 1320966987 193838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show source < 1320966987 635476 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98)S < 1320966992 790366 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!commands < 1320966994 121479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's supposed to show the source of a userinterpreter < 1320967005 25264 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!showinterp svedeesh < 1320967012 849653 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show reverse < 1320967018 142830 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrug
< 1320967021 962570 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!svedeesh < 1320967033 79496 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!reverse test < 1320967035 941401 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1320967054 573931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madoka-Kaname: those don't work. < 1320967067 991443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only some special commands do < 1320967210 925357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, Pegasus made another page with the same policy violations < 1320967225 807668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else go fix them, so they won't think it's just me on a mad crusade against them < 1320967238 557054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Parnassus Programming Language (2007, by Erick Atencio) is a programming language with features that other languages never had before. It is based on the When instruction, that allows to run a procedure in the moment an event happen. < 1320967244 872781 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: propose for deletion, not an esolang < 1320967249 380794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :event-based programming is a well-known concept < 1320967257 136124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the examples shown have no esoteric features whatsoever < 1320967258 697260 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even syntax < 1320967270 539470 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apart from using the terrible whitesmiths indentation style < 1320967476 260396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these new languages.... < 1320967486 271294 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is every language bad < 1320967490 892840 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the good ones < 1320967499 13155 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who cares about those < 1320967504 567980 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because mediocrity sucks < 1320967507 721593 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he just dropped another one < 1320967513 940839 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you block him for spamming? < 1320967519 530131 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh what < 1320967532 36051 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with this guy < 1320967535 521324 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Category: Impossible Programming Inc < 1320967536 370781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the thing is, I'm not convinced it's spam or off-topic < 1320967541 25526 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :banned for category < 1320967542 552112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: that's a clear policy violation < 1320967548 279228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should each clean up one page at a time < 1320967550 644431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until he gets the point < 1320967554 82463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :different person on each page < 1320967576 742250 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take Parnassus < 1320967590 745755 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you explain how you mean clean up < 1320967612 325968 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Talk:Parnassus < 1320967621 342558 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many !votes do we need for deletion? :P < 1320967635 703112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fix the userspace pothole, fix the categories < 1320967649 286366 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :shylock < 1320967651 572151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: technically only one, but that means it gets deleted after about 10 years if anyone still cares by then < 1320967657 950097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more support for deletion, the faster it gets deleted < 1320967659 223315 :shylock!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod NICK :copumpkin < 1320967693 849918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm antilooking forward to [[Hera Runtime]], anyway < 1320967696 774659 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User_talk:Pegasus < 1320967728 639762 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [[Hebe Script]] is quite uncontroversially offtopic, methinks < 1320967740 18651 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Not Even FURscript < 1320967747 876751 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just... a language < 1320967747 929194 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even snack < 1320967758 552862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my brain's having problems reading it < 1320967762 354221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just mentally filters the page out < 1320967765 870934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it say? < 1320967770 922989 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hebe Script is a simple scripting language that allows for the creation of little applets for the Hera Runtime. t has the CommonSystem library preloaded, and it does not have a App object, so it does not need a "When app.run = True" main method. < 1320967770 975776 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[edit]How to copy a file to the floopy disk < 1320967770 975960 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if get DiskSpace with "a:\";or "b:\" < 1320967770 976068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Higher Than FileSize with PublicArg-1 < 1320967771 389675 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : call CopyFile with PublicArg-1 with (get IsAvailable with "a:\";or "b:\") < 1320967773 345755 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : End < 1320967775 414324 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : End < 1320967777 328017 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PublicArg are the parameters that the script received. < 1320967779 856818 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ties in with Parnassus < 1320967781 87067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems < 1320967790 453261 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fun fact: there's a syntax-highlighted comment on [[Parnassus]] < 1320967792 441833 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just almost invisible < 1320967792 621918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I can't read it even when you post it, it's just that bland < 1320967807 918868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I noticed, I read the source of pages before the pages themselves < 1320967814 101007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple anti-goatse trick < 1320967855 738936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attempts to figure out how much he values Ryan North sketches of T-Rex with a hat on
< 1320967874 189180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thinking about buying one, or about selling one? < 1320967880 579151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, buying < 1320967913 380170 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite difficult to estimate, as I get to pick from a large but finite set of unknown elements < 1320967916 895910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If i = ( 4; or 2; or 1) < 1320967928 272310 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's not so unreasonable, Perl 6 has that < 1320967929 316356 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Icon < 1320967933 254113 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the syntax is wow < 1320967937 179934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Perl 6 has it, but its syntax is much saner < 1320967947 229575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw somebody wearing an xkcd shirt today < 1320967948 898203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call write:string With const "The number is two, four or eleven" < 1320967951 790514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me that's not a typo < 1320967969 480699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what typo? < 1320967971 957888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you run away < 1320967984 840532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ( 4; or 2; or 1) versus "two, four or eleven" < 1320967989 222178 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1320967992 99660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's ESOTERIC!!! < 1320968016 58132 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, nah, he hadn't actually heard of xkcd < 1320968021 696549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1320968038 523720 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did a frend give it to him as present < 1320968039 558497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: /some/ xkcds are good… < 1320968048 688924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, exactly < 1320968050 753685 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the one with the arrow < 1320968067 859250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but to wear an xkcd shirt in late 2011, well after the average quality of xkcd sunk from far above average to so, so below average? < 1320968090 33783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it might still be an xkcd shirt of a good xkcd < 1320968103 638394 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know enough about xkcd to know to and how to avoid xkcd shirts, but it doesn't matter anyway, because I refuse to wear anything but plain shirts < 1320968120 856338 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a Homestuck shirt < 1320968128 217678 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just checked, all the xkcd shirts suck :) < 1320968131 598682 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION objective
< 1320968143 157160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which in your opinion is the least sucky? < 1320968149 125181 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning on getting an IWC shirt < 1320968153 477631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can see how bad even the least sucky is for myself < 1320968162 110821 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably http://imgs.xkcd.com/store/imgs/athletic_square_0.jpg, as it's impossible for the internet to run down into oblivion :) < 1320968185 897888 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although http://imgs.xkcd.com/store/imgs/woodpecker_300.png isn't bad < 1320968202 339675 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woodpecker is harder to associate with xkcd < 1320968209 701924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have new messages (last change). < 1320968210 368139 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1320968213 580470 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1320968216 853044 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: defend me from pegasus if he cyberbullies me pls ;_; < 1320968226 330069 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no he was nice < 1320968231 391431 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have to feel slightly guilty about being a jerk < 1320968231 695477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm about to go home < 1320968237 398413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally cannot win!! < 1320968245 641542 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear people: don't talk to me; love, elliott < 1320968260 591172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's your favourite hat???? < 1320968269 113158 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rated on pure... hattiness < 1320968280 168885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bowler hat, I think < 1320968286 767238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's particularly hatty < 1320968287 935320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, elliott is feeling misanthropic; let's shower him with love < 1320968293 89703 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classy! But: Classy for a T-Rex??? < 1320968299 225115 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, xkcd 970 is actually mildly insightful < 1320968305 502194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although, not actually /amusing/) < 1320968320 63636 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oerjan: AND I REFUSE TO FIX THEM MUAHAHAHAHHA < 1320968339 220864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but but ;_; < 1320968363 33418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the heck did it break, anyway < 1320968367 199208 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, that convinced me to archive binge from there to the latest xkcd < 1320968370 927172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I regret having read 972 < 1320968380 43163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1320968388 950751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* elliott masochist < 1320968402 117499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's about five comics :P < 1320968406 614345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow 972 is bad < 1320968436 768382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to sue him over 974, those @ design documents are classified < 1320968491 965199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, bad comic saved by funny comment from a viewer < 1320968503 942264 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. Hats are complicated. < 1320968504 778874 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh < 1320968506 172044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that sounded worryingly Vorpalish, and I don't know why < 1320968516 251638 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hey," < 1320968524 705673 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : why the heck did it break, anyway // I have no idea; if I knew, I'd fix it :P < 1320968556 971903 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, are you available for hat identification services. < 1320968636 561456 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Depends on whether I can actually identify the hat in question. < 1320968642 977298 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: If I can't, I wasn't available. < 1320968650 923529 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320968668 214783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!pong < 1320968674 632179 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp ping < 1320968675 172222 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping deleted. < 1320968682 472470 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c puts("Pong!"); < 1320968682 674172 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Feather-based hat identification services. < 1320968683 265936 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter ping installed. < 1320968686 79087 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320968696 316357 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Errr ... identification based on feathers makes little sense. < 1320968698 422887 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm ... < 1320968700 275044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts a feather in Gregor's cap
< 1320968723 584423 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Whoosh < 1320968726 136107 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps me-whoosh < 1320968768 697151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mwhoosh. < 1320968772 414196 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Welsh. < 1320968946 241274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ping c puts("Pong!"); < 1320968946 744243 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​There is already an interpreter for ping! < 1320968960 799704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just checking if it's actually there :P) < 1320968969 612513 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c puts("Pong!") < 1320968992 551372 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1320969001 699830 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's the problem < 1320969003 142484 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969006 771779 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just disco'd it :P < 1320969038 543447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c puts("Pong!") < 1320969061 874905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1320969071 658470 :elliott!elliott@95.149.230.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969079 23971 :elliott!elliott@95.149.230.3 QUIT :Changing host < 1320969079 76760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969116 677641 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fork: retry: Resource temporarily unavailable HAHA WHOOPS < 1320969146 584016 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me > 1320969193 639924 JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969193 685742 :glogbot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969193 908937 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969195 296409 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969205 209544 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1320969212 137894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb < 1320969248 679478 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU SAW NOTHING < 1320969264 701446 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1320969266 746036 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1320969268 747475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely saw no glogbackup < 1320969278 795848 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I saw that too >_> < 1320969280 728550 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which distresses me. < 1320969289 796121 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-79-190.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, who's bright idea was it to make "xml" an invalid name for xsl:processing instuction? < 1320969319 417043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!svedeesh We are working again! < 1320969319 956369 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fe-a-a ire-a-a foorkeeng igeeee! Bork Bork Bork! Bork Bork Bork! Bork Bork Bork! < 1320969364 555463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* glogbot has quit (Remote host closed the connection) < 1320969364 709644 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* HackEgo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) < 1320969364 755151 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : rip < 1320969364 755369 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : the whole Gregor empire collapsed < 1320969364 755472 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :* glogbot (foobar@codu.org) has joined #esoteric < 1320969365 613721 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats what < 1320969368 508459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :glegbutt missed < 1320969406 671345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so was the process table entirely full, or something? < 1320969423 115787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1320969458 500525 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-235-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :init schemes always seem so ridiculously complicated to me. < 1320969483 492391 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-235-130.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, systemd... upstart... Holy crap, Debian dynamically creates a makefile for it...