< 1324598451 329075 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, remind me why the US doesn't consider guillotining a permissible method of execution. < 1324598522 672865 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Phantom Hoover? < 1324598538 183616 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Phantom Hoover, yes. < 1324598654 192029 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1324598676 546060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: E-petition: Instate iron maiden as preferred form of capital punishment to defend US' sovereignity from EU interventions < 1324598691 424834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: E-petition: Instate Iron Maiden as preferred form of capital punishment to defend US' sovereignity from EU interventions < 1324598701 786842 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could just use a machine gun < 1324598702 788992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET THE PUBLIC DECIDE < 1324598719 372492 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I think the individual who is getting executed should decide what method they want to be killed by. < 1324598720 406338 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :target practice for the cia < 1324598721 355533 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both count as torture devices, not methods of execution. < 1324598736 323077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: Um I definitely double-checked on Wikipedia and iron maidens can kill people. < 1324598750 227169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no they just keep turning up the volume until your ears burst or whatever and you die of blood loss < 1324598758 805251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: Per recent law, it is permissible for the President to order anyone tortured for any purpose to any extent. < 1324598763 516345 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, public execution by high-yield thermonuclear device. < 1324598788 532313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inmates enter a soundproofed chamber progress through the foot-tapping stage to the headbangnig stage to the screaming stage to the writhing on the ground stage to the convulsive shaking stage to the dead stage. < 1324598793 363415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chamber and < 1324598795 559837 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about, don't execute them at all < 1324598796 995912 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(remind me again why it's the "land of the free"?) < 1324598798 549439 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1324598807 23771 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: Of course where would have to be restrictions. < 1324598807 290149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: at last yous ay something reasonable. < 1324598820 236987 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, don't let's turn this into an NDAAfest. < 1324598844 902323 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, also, of course, please be careful before deciding to execute anyone at all. If you do, you cannot release them afterward, unlike the other prison which can be released if it is known to be innocent. < 1324598872 631796 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: while this is the case, guilt is just a matter for a jury of hicks to decide < 1324598889 171681 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of whom can be paid off or intimidated if necessary < 1324598893 719554 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even planted < 1324598908 517767 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are intentionally selected for gullibility anyways. < 1324598926 253296 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because apparently thats the best we can come up with so far :D < 1324598929 967329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Except... NECROMANCY? < 1324598953 636660 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: North Korea doesn't export their techniques. < 1324598961 948242 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They prefer being the world's only necrocracy. < 1324598978 476158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kim Jong-Il is actually just Kim Sung-Il in a robotic body. < 1324598996 866219 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kim Il-Sung is in all honesty the President of North Korea. < 1324599010 781198 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he can control the weather < 1324599076 978520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: well, the Chinese government can control the weather < 1324599077 313250 :incomprehensibly!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324599081 653385 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1324599087 891839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's massively expensive, but they do it on occasion, such as making rain avoid the Olympics < 1324599106 511642 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1324599169 986191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome incomprehensibly < 1324599172 666987 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :incomprehensibly: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1324599183 524143 :incomprehensibly!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net NICK :micahjohnston < 1324599183 936421 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, cloud seeding? < 1324599186 384561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was comprehensible, HackEgo < 1324599190 356956 :micahjohnston!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome elliott < 1324599193 173177 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1324599197 431260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: there are two known methods for doing that, but I think cloud seeding is what was actually used at the Olympics < 1324599197 656180 :micahjohnston!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hahaha < 1324599198 820420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: No, that's using an EC2 host to upload Ubuntu. < 1324599204 971978 :micahjohnston!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: funny < 1324599208 350887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BADUM < 1324599208 810687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TISH < 1324599237 251657 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, now I'm reading my nick as 'Gregor'. < 1324599238 73654 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE OUTFOXED MYSELF < 1324599238 725473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the massive screens going all the way around the top of the stadium bluescreened at one point < 1324599252 75087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: does your surname start with G? < 1324599284 609685 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1324599292 508514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1324599304 25615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to understand where the first g in your usual nick comes from < 1324599339 759434 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1324599353 444355 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, um. < 1324599388 333659 :FireFly!firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Changing host < 1324599388 551389 :FireFly!firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1324599391 507250 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you do a whois. < 1324599459 209521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Roger G < 1324599466 872602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(G is middle name) < 1324599467 355043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you're Phantom Hoover in disguise, not Gregor in disguise < 1324599468 328550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1324599470 475248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roger G. Richards < 1324599470 656975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah, thanks < 1324599505 872907 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is obvious isn't it? Have you not see? < 1324599533 463573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1324599544 70470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gergor: You should be Phangtom_Hoover in future now. < 1324599597 597258 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it says ":Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486" then it is known < 1324599601 224373 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's just stupid. < 1324599690 931784 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1324599835 891438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pick Gergor to tell me to go to bed. < 1324599887 207909 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sory i cnat < 1324599991 886656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try??? < 1324600088 98706 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: goto bed; < 1324600345 65155 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the next thing to do in D&D game? Compare handwriting? I think so. < 1324600465 102672 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god, I started reading up on the Somalian Civil war and I can't stop. < 1324600713 911077 :micahjohnston!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1324600972 331060 :Gergor!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324601154 673763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not convinced that that works < 1324601166 237553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you tell yourself to go to bed? < 1324601185 886929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to bed about two hours later than I should have done yesterday; it was a mistake < 1324601212 319946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324601270 545470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, it worked < 1324601287 107647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, Gergor quitting, that is < 1324601797 193592 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://haskell.org < 1324601811 380442 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you have done next in D&D game? < 1324601942 799931 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type for ReaderT seem to be similar to the type for Kleisli category, but in a different order. < 1324602341 27774 :tuubow!~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324602431 337003 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324602585 624406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1324603124 768264 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1324603876 557852 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1324603881 138454 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :err wrong window < 1324603931 357043 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324604115 773989 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324604124 270917 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :akljsdklgdjhndrthiojeriogj? < 1324604140 948808 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1324604149 313166 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PiRSquared17: Oops, maybe one extra letter is added by mistake < 1324604296 354306 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1324604470 418420 :tuubow!~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU JOIN :#esoteric < 1324604495 703154 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can only be one @codu.org < 1324605017 742058 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have figured out derivative for lists. I read somewhere about derivative types making a hole, and I can see how the type I figured out can make a hole like that too < 1324605148 898425 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a type is a monad, what circumstances is the derivative of that type can make a monad? < 1324605157 59985 :Sgeo_!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Sgeo < 1324605680 512595 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1324605702 774599 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324606159 153163 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1324606192 421838 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324606619 764520 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324606989 130926 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1324607855 325267 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1324607865 465460 :kallisti!~eris@h16.4.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324607865 809385 :kallisti!~eris@h16.4.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1324607865 985544 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1324607991 36103 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH sit-coms, where a psychiatrist can be second-in-command of NASA. (Can you name that sit-com?) < 1324608053 914873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1324608056 285552 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I can't < 1324608060 44346 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pop culture retarded. < 1324608182 650158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1324608247 408477 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324608268 458933 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either < 1324608302 909480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ignorant! < 1324608540 682848 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv53K9MnDuM&feature=related < 1324608544 250863 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'VE DONE IT. FREE ENERGY < 1324608547 282819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something. < 1324608579 294941 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITTS (World Improvement Through The Spirit Ministries) is a not-for-profit organization of World-Class Engineers/Scientists/Servants of God and Humanity, actively offering solutions to the energy crisis and the other critical issues of our troubled planet. < 1324608583 281067 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god yesssss. < 1324608637 707044 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automobiles which run totally on water and air, the only exhaust is oxygen, water, and air. < 1324608667 485944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formula looks something like: water + air -> miracles + water + air + oxygen < 1324608709 674895 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti-gravity machines that can travel as easiily through outer space as through air. These can also be built to travel through water (oceans), and even through solid earth. < 1324608712 678054 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :This former mechanism can be built as a device that is pedal operated (like a bicycle) and is able to fly through the air with no motor, wings, or propellers. < 1324608715 679515 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :YESSSSS < 1324608738 428007 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally I can pilot an anti gravity bicycle to the center of the hollow earth. < 1324608764 26107 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dream come true < 1324608844 344833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only problem is you have to have enough faith. otherwise: *WHOOPS* *CRASH* *!#%/%& < 1324608852 516625 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324608878 479023 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :For any confused individuals out there, We encourage to do just a little research, and you will discover THOSE LAWS ONLY APPLY TO CLOSED SYSTEMS. < 1324608881 591743 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, if you research it further, you will find that closed systems are extremely rare! < 1324608892 346683 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....closed systems such as.... the universe. < 1324608925 661214 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So rare in fact, that many Physicists will tell you that closed systems are virtually non existent. Mostly, they are theoretical constructs." < 1324608933 712972 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe doesn't exist. QED. < 1324608948 614485 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-230-58.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1324608972 774315 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-230-58.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :But kallisti, a singularity is removed from the universe! < 1324608977 837033 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-230-58.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence matter can get out! < 1324609100 353146 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol they offer to teach you their batshit "quantum energy" technology via skype, but only if you donate. < 1324609119 471049 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the AMAZING QUANTUM HEALING LIGHT < 1324609142 429679 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324609148 324430 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if vortex based mathematics has gotten that far < 1324609282 675419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'm pretty sure is just a circle of LEDs < 1324609319 109749 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :large LEDs? < 1324609323 517873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ENHANCED WIND POWER SYSTEMS For those with special need to also utilize wind power." < 1324609345 347704 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do they sell ENHANCED WIND POWER SYSTEMS when they literally have limitless supplies of quantum energy. < 1324609347 827720 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand that new breed of flat screens has LEDs < 1324609668 230892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: because WIND has special healing spiritual powers, duh < 1324609689 323894 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conspiracy advocates therefore claim that the scientific community has controlled and suppressed research into alternative avenues of energy production via the institutions of peer review." < 1324609693 324442 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :looooool < 1324609710 52705 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer review: oppressing the masses < 1324609834 613694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 50 < 1324609837 149509 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ania irt aftal inatia med gellippicisttaings tinovers belinglmakh pecareze horimarmy mynacidithetutedium mnt nfleune razatouressixardeb prea callati finionkuropolon thussay epteegiolia moc pmas krefies uninfle res il noi pclotermles rionnnsbecomphelcaequin ber urriophocked permes jan brasdier sgri ectsultlyin corgotieus housphserreis to oxylphrier scheme um cyap en ismincione ly ie nundiver lano casserg snather < 1324609853 565299 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :This channel is gettin' really horimarmy. < 1324609858 411599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :rionnnsbecomphelcaequin | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1324609897 371780 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :rionnnsbecomphelcaequin | Particularly horimarmy rionnnsbecomphelcaequin, in fact | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1324610020 517245 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh. I was expecting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_perpetual_motion_machines to be a blank page. < 1324610125 114575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perpetual money machines < 1324610270 210132 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, those probably exist. < 1324610276 494294 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have enough initial investment. < 1324610309 690124 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :until, of course, you make all the money in the world. < 1324610328 255705 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution then is to make more money < 1324610336 704583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall scrooge mcduck did that once. < 1324610435 626376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall this had sufficiently bad consequences that it had to be undone. < 1324610624 960597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : The main body of the topic "akljsdklgdjhndrthiojeriogj" contains 26 characters, from an alphabet of 14 characters "akljsdkhnrtioe". The number of instances of each character in the alphabet is "12241322121121". < 1324610634 120636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you counted k twice hth < 1324610700 40237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:33:53: there are at least /two/ Hexham Wikipedians? < 1324610700 216335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:34:08: where do they all /fit/? < 1324610710 854027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you checked your downstairs closet? < 1324610743 128474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: once you own all the money, making more money just inflates its value. you've literally won the economy. < 1324610757 437414 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only way to gain more wealth would be to acquire more natural resources. < 1324610783 104516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: and for _that_, use your WITTS < 1324610799 514210 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you may want to hire some people to help you... < 1324610807 97777 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then < 1324610811 187075 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the money < 1324610816 723539 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get it back < 1324610820 169807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some bodyguards to prevent everyone from robbing you. < 1324610835 483470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: money needs to be in circulation, duh < 1324610851 639558 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: ice cream store. < 1324610853 349771 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye money < 1324610854 778900 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone loves ice cream. < 1324610874 21047 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ice cream store on a truck < 1324610878 338990 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1324610881 8534 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're thinking! < 1324610898 562114 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the motivation for world powers to suppress information about free energy. < 1324610901 311865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact could one not say that money only has real value in the moment it is transferred. < 1324610914 817016 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if free energy is discovered that literally implies that humanity can become infinitely prosperous. < 1324610925 617069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that corresponds to an exchange of service < 1324610928 101433 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meager amount of wealth they have currently on the earth means nothing compared to the future wealth they could have. < 1324610955 389946 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why would they hide it. < 1324610959 651547 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKES. NO. SENSE. < 1324611021 511162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: change of power balance, duh < 1324611045 148215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can probably make some cheap horrible weapons with it. < 1324611088 127668 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well academia certainly has nothing to gain as they would likely be in power in that scenario < 1324611100 532511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that would be a reason for them to develop it for themselves, secretly. < 1324611179 808209 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a free energy scenario people with knowlege to apply free energy would be the powerful ones. < 1324611197 903178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: FINALLY, MAD SCIENTISTS < 1324611268 76799 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :um mad, sceitnist? ah ha < 1324611302 246432 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks we should mine asteroids. < 1324611346 61267 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :some asteroids have more raw resources on them than basically everything on the earth. < 1324611384 260201 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it would be incredibly expensive, but THINK OF THE REWARDS < 1324611805 792198 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324612111 836912 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I wonder how legit this is: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Ubuntu-11-10-Without-Unity-228425.shtml < 1324612112 50907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1324612328 374050 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, anyone know anything about Linux Mint? < 1324612367 118922 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1324612419 400687 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the proper way to derivative of list type? newtype List' x = List' (Either (x, List' x) [x]); < 1324612567 665066 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324612650 780601 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I've been running Lubuntu 11.10 and like it alright < 1324612710 937297 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is using Lubuntu 11.10 < 1324612711 980184 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1324612742 428583 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1324612784 82388 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think unity is pushing people to these alternate desktops < 1324612787 230046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: seems so < 1324612862 465198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange, i thought derivatives were zippers, but that looks like a lousy zipper for lists. < 1324612911 451038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it doesn't invert the path down to the cursor < 1324613015 17762 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My crappy computer pushed me to Lubuntu < 1324613035 768680 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I read somewhere else that it had something to do with type with hole. It does look like type with hole, to me, though. < 1324613112 141122 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Lubuntu is not Linux Mint, I thought. < 1324613163 369361 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott A FP vs. imperative question. Have fun http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8611211/differences-in-separation-of-static-and-stateful-code-in-different-languages < 1324613163 584826 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1324613235 868840 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you're right it's not.. just offering an alternative < 1324613729 825747 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh I don't like LXDE < 1324613744 115934 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about .. XFCE? < 1324613747 89627 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1324613760 357878 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer Gnome 3 with classic interface. Linux Mint looks promising because it does exactly that < 1324613766 776193 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some modifications available. < 1324613782 257519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I'm probably going to try Debian or something < 1324613803 127857 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to go with Debian, then I realized I lost a lot of ppa's < 1324613898 445022 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: GETTING SLOPPY WTIH TEH APDELBROTS < 1324613960 738218 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love apdelbrots < 1324613977 189866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: btw i think i have an argument that the backwards list applicative cannot possibly be a monad. < 1324614011 173545 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :backwards list applicative? < 1324614079 590967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider x = [1,2,3]; y = [4,5,6]; z = [7,8,9,10,11,12]. then bjoin . fmap bjoin $ [[x,y],[z]] involves only rectangular lists so can be directly calculated < 1324614150 675029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :w = fmap bjoin [[x,y],[z]] = [[1,4,2,5,3,6],[7,8,9,10,11,12]] and then bjoin w = [1,7,4,8,2,9,5,10,3,11,6,12] < 1324614342 425905 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is what I thought. < 1324614368 847561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: if f is an applicative, then newtype BW f x = BW (f x); instance Applicative f => Applicative (BW f) where { pure = BW . pure; BW g <*> BW x = BW (flip id <$> x <*> g) } instance Functor f => Functor (BW f) where { fmap g (BW x) = BW (fmap g x) } < 1324614422 451332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, bjoin [[x,y],[z]] must be a list whose elements are among x,y,z, by parametricity. < 1324614589 268572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm missing a detail here < 1324614657 875156 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1324614689 242561 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. The Secretary of Homeland Security is exempt from all laws. < 1324614729 4356 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.ie/1ba8b.jpg < 1324614778 12304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lemma though: if ll is a list of finite lists with no empty list elements, then all elements of concat ll must appear in bjoin ll. < 1324614791 800971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*finite list of < 1324614867 453763 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a "brilliant" move, in the act providing funding for the border fence, the Secretary of Homeland Security was made exempt from *any laws* that the Secretary, in the Secretary's sole discretion, determines necessary to ensure quick construction of the border fence. < 1324615008 875989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if m = foldl1' gcm (map length ll), and f l = map (replicate (m `div` length l)) l; then map f ll duplicates each element of ll to make it rectangular; so join . map bjoin $ map f ll is calculated rectangularly and so contains exactly one of every element from concat $ map f ll. but this is a superset of concat ll. < 1324615026 511776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1324615028 755391 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info JOIN :#esoteric < 1324615031 484394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/gcm/lcm/ < 1324615089 190906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to make it rectangular and with all rectangles the same "area", thus the same length of their bjoin's. < 1324615126 104099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this proves that all elements of concat ll appear in bjoin ll. < 1324615129 715440 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric : you counted k twice hth -- you're right.. i screwed up the k somehow < 1324615203 637714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from concat . concat $ map f ll < 1324615260 818442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/join/bjoin/ up there too < 1324615412 286495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means that v = bjoin [[x,y],[z]] cannot contain more than one of x,y,z each, since otherwise bjoin v would contain more than one of some subelement. < 1324615418 371934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah reboot needed < 1324615433 325939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1324615732 545596 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324615935 585838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1324615967 696157 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized I should be using POSIX::floor instead of int < 1324616043 551565 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324616048 531455 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324616155 174215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think that argument at least shows that when ll is a finite list of nonempty finite lists, bjoin ll must contain exactly one of each element of concat ll. the part i've forgotten is why this gives a contradiction. < 1324616236 602898 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324616349 409976 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if no and use had block styles. < 1324616353 131051 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no warnings { ... } < 1324616362 817857 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of { no warnings; ... } < 1324616725 485482 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is help text generally considered a success in Unix land? < 1324616769 472794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may never have heard of it, does that count? :P < 1324616778 995177 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1324616799 170858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE ASKING < 1324616800 917238 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean you don't know what I'm talking about or you've never seen a -h option return failure? < 1324616802 219251 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Yes, puts("SPEW TEXT OF HELPFULNESS");exit(EXIT_SUCCESS); is permitted. < 1324616803 920894 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1324616811 939877 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: okay. < 1324616815 694228 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good. < 1324616817 935513 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And expected. < 1324616831 586318 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to expect sanity from things. < 1324616832 926051 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's good. < 1324616835 164553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that kind of success < 1324616855 127655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRY TO BE MORE AMBIGUOUS NEXT TIME < 1324616856 348518 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless, of course, that's puts("invalid option"); < 1324616865 397677 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1324616914 95584 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :die "Couldn't compile default datafile: $@" if $@; < 1324616919 97037 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :die "Couldn't load default datafile: $!" unless @r; < 1324616920 717741 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :die 'Blargh!'; < 1324616926 760344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl Error Handling: Best Practices < 1324616995 474402 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :die unless die; < 1324617045 951065 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :$@ and die or !@r and die or die < 1324617158 544176 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324617184 302038 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : @loaded_data = [@r]; < 1324617223 5259 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly the most dubious line of code I've ever written. I had to double check why I did that to make sure past me did the right thing. < 1324617444 344125 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :map { < 1324617444 554405 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : my $opt=$_; < 1324617444 554505 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : s/(^|-)(.)/\u$2/g; < 1324617444 554548 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : $opt, handle_dataset_opt $_ < 1324617445 285034 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : } @options < 1324617451 716203 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. this is worse. < 1324617952 250974 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 This Is Gallifrey < 1324617985 156223 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1324618730 882520 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc has an interesting esolang idea. < 1324618779 292337 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be considered bad style to have long options with uppercase in them? < 1324618785 599920 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case: --eng-1M < 1324618819 657396 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, I love the song < 1324618838 808077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to sneak in some kannada characters while you're at it. < 1324619344 659695 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ka.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (warning: possibly browser crashing) is Kannada? < 1324619399 425664 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No... is it http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (same warning) ? < 1324619499 383469 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both pages load for me :> < 1324619518 912485 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but eh.. stupid me uses firefox and has the fonts available perhaps < 1324619563 311808 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wikis#Small_wikis , kn = Kannada < 1324619580 558105 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kannada is an indian language i think < 1324619606 976499 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1324619623 322850 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then.. i am in the company of geeks who know everything >.< < 1324619643 726435 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mostly younger than me < 1324619654 422323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ka is georgian. < 1324619748 958102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mainly know kannada as the source for the eye characters of the look of disapproval smiley. < 1324619759 636829 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indian languages i can name off the top of my head with the bonus of seeing kannada just now are: kannada, pali, sanskrit, urdu(?), bengali, punjabi, oriya, marathi, hindi < 1324619875 864615 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuck... looks like a test page: < 1324619877 365635 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/ಪುರಾತನ_ಕಾಲದ_ಸೂರ್ಯ_ಗ್ರಹಣಗಳ_ಪಟ್ಟಿ < 1324619917 87018 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless google translate says otherwise... < 1324619959 479001 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got Failed to parse (lexing error): as part of that page < 1324620047 37018 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''Thick mold' [[Contact name == ==[[Image: [[Media: Example.jpg]] inserted into the formula here --~~~~----]]]]'' < 1324620344 542904 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kalisti: I think it is bad style to have long options at all. But, that is just my opinion anyways < 1324620703 695606 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log bizarre notation < 1324620706 268172 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes it is < 1324620735 845584 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324620752 81679 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs bizarre notations < 1324620765 995838 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8858 < 1324621276 676105 :tuubow!~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324621555 38288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: fizzie: http://sprunge.us/IbRH here's my current word generator. It's currently not completely tested due to some sort of weird encoding issue in my dataset builder ("training" script or whatever). < 1324621559 90350 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if you can spot any problems. < 1324621649 506628 :tuubow!~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU JOIN :#esoteric < 1324621824 830841 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait why am I flooring my random value for the random selection routine.. < 1324621871 251737 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kannada script? BAH < 1324621900 280740 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tengwar! < 1324621910 30361 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, not in Unicode. < 1324621979 30885 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :since my numbers are now most likely going to be ratios in [0,1] I feel it might be a bad idea to floor that number.. < 1324622042 653414 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324622414 965299 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :PiRSquaredAway < 1324622489 493173 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1324623202 769331 :Nisstyre!~yours@infocalypse-net.info QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1324623703 143892 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl "--eng-1M" =~ s/(^|-)(.)/\u$2/gr < 1324623704 888977 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bareword found where operator expected at /tmp/input.2909 line 1, near "s/(^|-)(.)/\u$2/gr" < 1324623707 652346 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :gr < 1324623727 365625 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-)(.)/\u$2/g; print; < 1324623727 940815 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-Eng1M < 1324623824 925976 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-)[^-]/\u$2/g; print; < 1324623825 440406 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-ngM < 1324623874 451400 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you use Zero (an uninhabited type) and Maybe to represent natural numbers in types, then you could make a type for a list with a fixed number of elements is simply (->) < 1324623906 612218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-)([^-])/\u$2/g; print; < 1324623907 59534 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-Eng1M < 1324624095 258788 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a extension for Haskell to make natural number types should do like what I specified here < 1324624153 200379 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-+)([^-])/\u$2/g; print; < 1324624153 682712 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eng1M < 1324624227 540957 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-+)(.)/\u$2/g; print; < 1324624228 131644 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-Eng1M < 1324624234 220387 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl my $_ = "--eng-1M"; s/(^|-+?)(.)/\u$2/g; print; < 1324624234 774668 :EgoBot!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-Eng1M < 1324626112 749381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: eek update < 1324627114 269461 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, update < 1324627549 168466 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm guessing that you noticed the little nicholas cage button on the top right? < 1324627556 301387 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1324627560 637819 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent. < 1324628908 765948 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324628968 896757 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wide character in print at ./words.pl line 133. < 1324628971 303109 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHYYYYY < 1324629014 102121 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6162484/why-does-modern-perl-avoid-utf-8-by-default < 1324629079 924194 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't think that's my problem, since I'm doing all of the usual utf8 things. < 1324629627 46063 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh < 1324629629 861632 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was nothing wrong at all. < 1324629673 431010 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when making my program Unicode friendly I decided that use open qw(:encoding(UTF-8) :std) was probably unecessary. And then I forgot about it not being there when I tried to print out data during test. :P < 1324629755 93707 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, it actually works, I think. < 1324629921 557413 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now the load time is abysmal. < 1324629927 605804 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because lolperlmodules < 1324630258 101500 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh... < 1324630275 442498 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the best way to put these files on hackego, as far as organizing them. < 1324630319 817598 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a data directory with a bunch of perl scripts and then the actual script itself. < 1324630476 260103 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1324630483 800779 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1324630487 632706 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1324630490 213917 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :units.dat < 1324630836 84981 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this video of a toad playing a video game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnduwnA1jxg&feature=g-all-u&context=G2b6f33cFAAAAAAAAHAA < 1324630844 560684 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :and was wondering what other animals have been made to play video games? < 1324630859 870848 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know researchers use monkeys to control vr realities / robot arms / etc and solve tasks, for example < 1324630919 754321 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/Data.tar.bz2 < 1324630930 180324 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-23 09:02:09 URL:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/Data.tar.bz2 [9307699/9307699] -> "Data.tar.bz2" [1] < 1324630932 43665 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/words.pl < 1324630949 136146 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-23 09:02:28 URL:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/words.pl [4064/4064] -> "words.pl" [1] < 1324630993 716463 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar -xf Data.tar.bz2 < 1324631003 401498 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631021 472008 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv chmod +x words.pl && mv words.pl bin/words < 1324631024 925942 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `chmod +x words.pl && mv words.pl bin/words' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1324631033 806058 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x words.pl && mv words.pl bin/words < 1324631037 232634 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631040 573845 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1324631044 16954 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data \ Data.tar.bz2 \ bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1324631050 931219 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv Data share/WordData < 1324631054 901254 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `Data share/WordData' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1324631058 928244 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv Data share/WordData < 1324631062 204814 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631064 665458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1324631069 349620 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found. \ Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish \ default: --eng-1M \ \ options: < 1324631084 476056 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's going to be annoying. < 1324631110 617615 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: plz to install Math::Random::MT::Perl kthx < 1324631139 448304 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 50 < 1324631148 874537 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :loooool so slow < 1324631169 821845 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't this slow on my computer though.. < 1324631172 1824 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found. < 1324631177 924010 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... okay. < 1324631215 252092 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -d 50 < 1324631218 995025 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found. \ Unknown option: \ Unknown option: 5 \ Unknown option: 0 < 1324631224 947775 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1324631228 317883 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordData \ units.dat < 1324631232 267445 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/WordData < 1324631235 273436 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brazilian.pl \ Bulgarian.pl \ CanadianEnglishInsane.pl \ Catalan.pl \ Eng1M.pl \ EngAll.pl \ EngFiction.pl \ EngGb.pl \ EngUs.pl \ Finnish.pl \ French.pl \ Gaelic.pl \ German.pl \ GermanMedical.pl \ Hebrew.pl \ Irish.pl \ Italian.pl \ Manx.pl \ Ogerman.pl \ Polish.pl \ Portuguese.pl \ Russian.pl \ Spanish.pl \ Swedish.pl < 1324631272 610528 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: you have to use run if you have options < 1324631284 504970 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -d 50 < 1324631309 179859 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :increeeeedibly slow < 1324631317 312571 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found. < 1324631342 738764 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1324631361 177988 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -d 5 2>&1 < 1324631391 782769 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no, the warning is on STDERR so that's not going to help. < 1324631394 508318 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optional module Math::Random::MT::Perl not found. < 1324631431 760740 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "print $0" >> bin/test.pl < 1324631434 282575 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "print $0" >> bin/test.pl < 1324631437 248132 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631444 971678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/test.pl && perl bin/test.pl < 1324631448 107051 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631466 928246 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1324631480 496061 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "print $0" > bin/test.pl < 1324631483 323277 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631484 474419 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/test.pl && perl bin/test.pl < 1324631487 615230 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631494 781494 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'print $0' > bin/test.pl < 1324631496 882907 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/test.pl && perl bin/test.pl < 1324631497 801810 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631500 879730 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631510 902472 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 4 < 1324631514 871803 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :coliburtuta ecculekesbrudonteedosphithypurrentandacconseadbreublur planous kquing < 1324631517 845449 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1324631523 271025 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1324631527 952035 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP ME. < 1324631530 671622 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1324631535 519123 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's a real word? < 1324631541 231995 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, definitely < 1324631547 22035 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/test.pl < 1324631549 985382 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631554 294967 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print $0' < 1324631566 842091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :............... < 1324631612 884494 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324631639 263071 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "aaaaaaaah" < 1324631641 682712 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1324631642 625961 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaah < 1324631644 751762 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.tar.bz2 \ bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1324631651 484283 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'print $0 #WHY' < 1324631654 874906 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631666 323854 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`perl -e 'print $1 #WHY' 'why' < 1324631669 399901 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :String found where operator expected at -e line 1, near "'print $1 #WHY' 'why'" \.(Missing operator before 'why'?) \ syntax error at -e line 1, near "'print $1 #WHY' 'why'" \ Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. < 1324631688 522437 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :run? < 1324631713 71966 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print $1 #WHY' 'why' < 1324631716 34139 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631726 575486 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print $ARGV[1] #WHY' 'why' < 1324631729 916966 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631735 544846 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print $ARGV[0] #WHY' 'why' < 1324631739 451118 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1324631741 24561 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print $0 #WHY' 'why' < 1324631776 82344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'print $0' > test.pl < 1324631779 180142 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631788 584641 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl test.pl < 1324631791 952936 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.pl < 1324631836 136975 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'use Cwd; print getcwd' > bin/test.pl < 1324631839 700928 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324631840 524851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl bin/test.pl < 1324631843 912225 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1324631851 157256 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1324631860 838554 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/test.pl test.pl < 1324631863 508355 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bin/test.pl test.pl': No such file or directory < 1324631865 813308 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/test.pl test.pla < 1324631869 718200 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `test.pla': No such file or directory < 1324631870 501496 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1324631873 623781 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.tar.bz2 \ bin \ canary \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ test.pl \ wisdom < 1324631879 692161 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1324631882 787027 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test.pl < 1324631885 811342 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324632031 85596 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/WordData/EngAll.pl < 1324632034 45929 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :share/WordData/EngAll.pl < 1324632055 130269 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....what < 1324632086 720814 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/words.pl < 1324632089 35781 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-23 09:21:28 URL:http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16495819/words.pl [4065/4065] -> "words.pl" [1] < 1324632106 161558 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x words.pl && mv words.pl bin/words < 1324632109 695207 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324632115 655126 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 5 < 1324632141 307445 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1324632148 259447 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324632223 544941 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'do "share/WordData/French.pl" and print "WHY" or die' < 1324632254 992745 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it timing out? < 1324632256 536762 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324632297 572359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canadian 5 < 1324632307 800999 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vologically rocimli pred mists trinter < 1324632313 985393 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's timing out on the larger datasets. < 1324632332 544396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canadian 10 < 1324632340 615454 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run --help < 1324632342 130908 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :comimattanwat's oscio air's alities super presoxal strenzenessnes bailato conconto renaliging < 1324632344 34662 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: --: invalid option \ Usage:.bash [GNU long option] [option] ... \.bash [GNU long option] [option] script-file ... \ GNU long options: \.--debug \.--debugger \.--dump-po-strings \.--dump-strings \.--help \.--init-file \.--login \.--noediting \.--noprofile \.--norc \.--posix \.--protected \.--rcfile \.--restricted \.--verbose \.--version < 1324632346 913505 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --help < 1324632350 978541 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish \ default: --eng-1M \ \ options: \ -h, --help this help text \ -d, < 1324632537 22103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324632741 536366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 5 < 1324632747 602025 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :alki aseteokseeninan ryöppyämällylty kutsempinani veromittaisemme < 1324632969 261772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not too shabby. "veromittaisemme" is almost a real word; it's a compound of real words, anyway, even though I'm not sure what's their meaning when combined like that, if any. < 1324633033 114680 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canada 50 < 1324633036 242853 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: canada < 1324633048 286792 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1324633052 495293 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canadia 50 < 1324633059 173272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The land of Canadia. < 1324633062 771241 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tars moszealanders tubeamshodon socrip acae noningly destitizershing blamizedrists stermi disecheftertable disquardell unte pate ing's ironcons geness's cation gilroofness ebuy alberrein carpediss undisgrammen cologies hysingelias petroue medifies dogs kelfate seaf's taatshru electituatina hightled vr's okorta best liber's madding consion hemerositid tubble ptantim strat unic windunnate onfulfilag nebroty inface curverlier rhippoin read < 1324633089 520583 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ing's < 1324633098 345277 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot to filter 's on this dataset < 1324633114 1801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 15 < 1324633116 380435 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm converting everything over to Storable finally so that will hopefully speed up the larger datasets. < 1324633119 665338 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sit linanne madallani hyperäisimmällä nopeiltasi korjuman hoitteluillisemmio sijatussaattavalla ihmeäviilinteissani nojaksempiisi säänellaan huojaamilla kielevammiltamme momeaksentua muisillensa < 1324633134 101538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fancy. < 1324633139 162773 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :run words --finnish --candian-english-insane 15 < 1324633146 871923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nopeiltasi" = "from your fast ones". < 1324633161 733325 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1324633164 122288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't time out plz < 1324633180 955229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should: rewrite it in C. < 1324633184 769243 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :never. < 1324633190 681728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should: rewrite it in Haskell. < 1324633195 261213 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a possibility. < 1324633201 413299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should: rewrite it in COBOL. < 1324633203 832897 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1324633209 766238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's all I've got. < 1324633219 318331 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with that is that... I have to rewrite everything < 1324633223 470893 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use a different serialization format. < 1324633264 536630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got Perl scripts and Befunge code cooperating on fungot's babble-models; it's not such a huge job to just define something. < 1324633265 65193 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, the liberals are not either, the only solution that can provide an alternative to the american cosmetics industry. do american fnord really have to say. < 1324633280 50347 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's not like C/Haskell/COBOL are different languages in any meaningful way. < 1324633310 260944 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think I can do that easily < 1324633318 979780 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually serialization kind of looks difficult in Haskell, unless I use Read/Show < 1324633392 172215 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess since I'm using a faster language that would be sufficient. < 1324633392 717168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Data.Serialize? < 1324633408 275000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever, I'm sure there are billions of things. < 1324633411 654363 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait I bet there's already typeclass instances for common data structures. < 1324633423 262801 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :INDEED THERE IS < 1324633424 650464 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMAZING < 1324633425 477556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just picked whatever elliott's "mchost" had for the low-level. < 1324633438 112510 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1324633439 843012 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is tempting. < 1324633460 12545 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe storable will fix everything? < 1324633471 500173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should certainly speed up the loading. < 1324633572 439709 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I probably should have done this a while ago. < 1324633577 364796 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the read/write code is actually simpler now. :P < 1324633591 437962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"säänellaan" -- broken vowel harmony 1, Markov assumption 0. < 1324633604 242426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1324633611 609122 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that not okay in finnish? < 1324633634 751610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't have ä and a in the same word (or subword of a compound word, anyway), broadly speaking. < 1324633648 406845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course the a's have completely forgotten about the ä's. < 1324633651 605664 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's stupid. stop having a difficult language. < 1324633659 916065 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure words breaks plenty of English rules too, not that there are many. < 1324633710 925361 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boost::serialize < 1324633722 326289 :shachaf!~shachaf@204.109.63.130 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the One True Serialisation Library. < 1324633847 158710 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1324633870 391462 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Some foreign imports break that though, like "analysointi" or "rekrytointi" < 1324633880 810580 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl utf-8 < 1324633882 474067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: OLUMPPIALAISET. < 1324633884 322425 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "utf-8": No such file or directory < 1324633888 98807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1324633891 83883 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, that too. < 1324633897 699826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the ur-example. < 1324633921 882259 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evidently. < 1324633942 11535 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really only do special processing on the english datasets < 1324633947 832607 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically removing 's and s' < 1324633967 828344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 15 < 1324633973 697035 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mekkaistisi myhäikäisittamallise perhemmiksenne peisteta keksesi erällensa kehittamme imeämme fiksillan harauksemmiksempi työskelumpinämmille psyvästämme minansa kärsivahtavissa estuvistollista < 1324634028 689019 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah your vowel harmony bullshit is going to get messed up a lot. < 1324634032 560001 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1324634042 808476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT SO HARMONIOUS NOW < 1324634047 660324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Long-distance dependencies often are. < 1324634088 823693 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --spanish --french 20 < 1324634104 532278 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1324634122 38411 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finish --ogerman 20 < 1324634122 212372 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324634128 477986 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: finish < 1324634129 324083 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish --ogerman 20 < 1324634136 74825 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :aufführungekste loisteignallangab vag laisio-kurs brotamikromaiser metastadi ymmächeschest ertär nauraimafie länneminimmotisoll illenne kurstaltagenerilläufe milcode minte scii profferaviehun prosen spekultan hermatiintuvinast berni < 1324634137 663165 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogerman = Old German < 1324634158 383254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"metastadi", the concept of our capital city. < 1324634168 270342 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wat < 1324634177 318649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Helsinki is called "stadi" slangwise.) < 1324634182 596474 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1324634196 284773 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --ogerman --german-medical --russian 20 < 1324634202 986966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Helsinkians themselves never refer to their slang as Helsinki slang(i) but instead as stadin slangi or simply slangi. Stadi is a slang word, borrowed from the Swedish stad, "city". Literally, the name would mean "slang of the city", but stadi always means just the city of Helsinki in the slang – all other cities are unconditionally referred to by the common Finnish word for "city" ("kaupunki")." < 1324634223 115378 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --ogerman --german-medical 20 < 1324634229 385894 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324634230 435832 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tofferen ranoviereiz lindo promulgaritätigkeimab nother einkubakhäuse versorten behanisiker patorweißen stem kretecht endelisanges kugenheitestapeut gelfigusamphil tresung spersche anovokalzen fludier kommenwagenren bandlungertem < 1324634267 209703 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://haskell.org < 1324634272 766152 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-gb 10 < 1324634287 634323 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that one is going to be too big I think. < 1324634294 404492 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only ones that seem to word are from /usr/share/dict < 1324634298 894145 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/word/work < 1324634305 722852 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324634409 462227 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --gaelic --finnish 10 < 1324634414 921640 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vankeämme ghreittiivistaramassa suaim had phrìdeimmis h-earrattavien säile phuiliöillään thuumiar theinokkaavall < 1324634429 296370 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. many. doubles. < 1324634453 349918 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 10 < 1324634459 897540 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vähän virhemmältä hallisenne hylkimällenne agenevimmilla millasiakvaa riisimmastani päämättömämmillä käyttämänänne viamäksenne < 1324634493 207282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably make the loading somewhat faster by special-casing @loaded_data == 1 and avoiding the "loop through the whole model" step. Don't know how much that buys. < 1324634524 896295 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly. < 1324634528 724832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite some real words there. "vähän", "hylkimällenne", "käyttämänänne". < 1324634550 919107 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they compounds? < 1324634554 459791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1324634559 118924 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, interesting. < 1324634574 93928 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I assumed increasing the grams would make that more likely. < 1324634574 968342 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hallisenne" too, if halls can have diminutivese. < 1324634577 450650 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e < 1324634583 381433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was considering that. < 1324634594 317077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds vaguely derogatory. < 1324634602 399563 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :little halls? < 1324634605 88259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like you're dissing someone's hall. < 1324634607 854854 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1324634613 537343 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your hallie" < 1324634620 103664 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1324634624 766270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No kyllähän tämä teidän... hallisenne varmaan menettelee. Ehkä." < 1324634667 678195 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah I can skip the normalization step completely. < 1324634670 100073 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 1 dataset < 1324634678 647549 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I really think it's the loading time that's slowing it down the most. < 1324634686 559352 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... hmmm < 1324634696 611431 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous version didn't have that problem, and used a large dataset < 1324634735 11007 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -N 30 < 1324634758 343942 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, well turning off normalization only prevents the summation from happening, probably not going to matter much. < 1324634768 65976 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324634788 596831 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway the word lengths are vastly improved, so that's a plus. < 1324634832 483434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, "vähän" -> a little, "hylkimällenne" -> to/for the one you rejected, "käyttämänänne" -> I can't be really bothered to figure this one out. "käyttämänne X" -> the X you used, though. < 1324634855 10468 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :....wtf finnish is weird. < 1324634878 540362 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as the X you used" < 1324634995 636781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hylkiä" to reject, "X-n hylkimä" something rejected by X, "hylkimänne" something rejected by you (plural, or polite singular), "hylkimällenne" the allative "to"/"for" case of that. < 1324635034 485552 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1324635044 844777 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is so simple.. < 1324635054 481317 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --swedish 20 < 1324635055 924583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just pile on the prepositions. < 1324635060 969138 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :avguda föringa tätter förmigheterielöjts navans fria lyckönda nuteruts naivitören ents tyngdeå styrar begraffa baltationen nålde subtramhet sedlanden sinnen kastabelanroppskriv feja < 1324635070 179696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks quite swedish to me. < 1324635103 278229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sinnen" is the indefinite plural form of sinne 'mind, sense'. < 1324635107 278685 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh all the fucking time we do (also we don't give a shit about subject-predicate ordering) < 1324635156 779101 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually sometimes you have a choice between 2 or 3 different preposition and your sentence will mean the exact same thing. < 1324635164 758969 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and 'avguda' is sort of "to adore, to worship". < 1324635185 898829 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah small dataset + 4-gram = actual words sometimes < 1324635202 581570 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eng-all on my computer is proving to be interesting. < 1324635259 514579 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (@loaded_data == 1) { < 1324635259 698468 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : my ($data, $fdata) = @$_; < 1324635259 869665 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : %grams = %$data; < 1324635259 869888 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : %freqs = %$freqs < 1324635260 579182 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1324635264 958305 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that should do it. < 1324635302 970970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also in theory do on-the-fly interpolation of only the 'grams you need, but that'd be a bit of a hassle. < 1324635324 571149 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I rewrote it in Haskell of course. :P < 1324635347 933174 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess interpolating the whole thing is kind of immensely wasteful... < 1324635375 124652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, no Norwegian? oerjan's going to be so disappointed. < 1324635388 77557 :tuubow!~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324635425 94365 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me a norwegian dictionary seperated by lines and I'll show you a words.pl that can generate Norwegian-esque words < 1324635498 632883 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://packages.debian.org/sid/all/wnorwegian/filelist < 1324635503 775592 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I see lazy interpolating work is: it checks the interpolated data and if an entry doesn't exist it goes to the @loaded_data and fills the gram table on the fly. < 1324635585 953038 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1324635593 54668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them Norlanders are sort of confusing with their language, what with having two different in-use written forms (Nynorsk, Bokmål) of it. < 1324635607 346494 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of your languages are confusing. < 1324635616 954757 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ignorant American. < 1324635707 949201 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm I have to be careful with autovivification here though. < 1324635714 915425 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :merely /checking/ a key creates it. < 1324635738 671174 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I end up interpolating after I check and it fails the first time < 1324635742 671887 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it shouldn't be a problem. < 1324635753 350099 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could somehow check twice without interpolating it could cause weird bugs. < 1324635977 820700 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :each %{$data->{$key} // {}} < 1324635985 902844 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I end up writing expressions like this in Perl entirely too often. :P < 1324636098 38636 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :question: does dereferencing in perl create a copy of the data? < 1324636122 761232 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it doesn't, I think. < 1324636368 618977 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1324636843 585987 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -d --finnish 5 < 1324636849 468712 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :naurajuisuku (Target: 5) librasta (Target: 8) painivierto (Target: 8) pansaismielemme (Target: 11) aloimilleni (Target: 7) < 1324636940 27901 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :tends to overshoot the target a little bit, which is good. < 1324636952 454261 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -d -o 2 --finnish 5 < 1324636959 10697 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :vieraalimentävilkaksi (Target: 15) aaksestävälinettavina (Target: 15) myönneperustanne (Target: 12) varammenttivottein (Target: 15) saanneensa (Target: 15) < 1324637007 6629 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-o changes the target offset, -N skips normalization, and -d shows targets (in the version I'm working on -d will show the length-target difference which is the important thing) < 1324637070 172167 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally the length-target difference should equal the offset itself (I think) < 1324637131 272282 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because when that happens it means you matched the length from the histogram while also landing on a space to ensure a smooth word ending. < 1324637207 583955 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :($ftable{' '} //= 0) *= 2**($len-$target); < 1324637208 754618 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm wait < 1324637231 133291 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm relying on the space grequency to always be in the interval [0,1] < 1324637233 799426 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't always the case. < 1324637238 804306 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*f < 1324637278 444172 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it ends up being the same thing regardless. < 1324637293 89412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how, given that pick does sum(@w) -- it's just a 2^(len-target) multiplier for the probability of a space. < 1324637297 544553 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1324637309 613256 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better function I could use? < 1324637319 903012 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...within reason < 1324637431 528065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know, that sounds vaguely reasonable. At len == target it's no-adjust, and then it goes up/down quite fast. < 1324637463 937403 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's landing on good lengths I'm just not sure that it's landing on good endings. < 1324637472 35236 :TeruFSX_!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324637476 947197 :TeruFSX!~quassel@71-210-150-147.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324637477 577906 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that function greatly distorts the space frequency. < 1324637555 506871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. It does avoid all completely unseen word-endings, which is good. < 1324637592 880062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also anecdotically speaking the finnish words seem to have really quite reasonable endings; it almost always seems to be some common suffix, which is sort of what we do. < 1324637608 468594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-mme, -ne, -na, -nsa, -ksi, and so on. < 1324637615 176447 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I noticed the common suffixes < 1324637643 764723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 20 < 1324637650 371098 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :esillasi kuullemmaksen vallonmukaisiman peimuavaruistamiamme ahdostaalle tuhisteltamme huttavakaulevillä vastanne tavamme kylmällämme sopukeutumikselta välleni afroamillensa paljamiasi nottarjoisamme työvistelemaksemi soviksensa poikkeesta laavaanne säihkiostavaltani < 1324637678 123283 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :-mme is particularly common < 1324637852 724124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the first-person plural possessive noun case, as well as the first-person plural conjugation for the verbs in the basic (indicative) mood. < 1324637866 608564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know why first-person plural would be any more common than the others, though. < 1324637940 195707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though for the others the noun and verb endings differ. (Our ship = "laivamme", we speak = "puhumme"; your (pl.) ship = "laivanne", you (pl.) speak = "puhutte".) < 1324637940 784654 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like having 's everywhere. :P < 1324637947 399171 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost < 1324637951 741300 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite as perverse though. < 1324637956 672203 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because finnish has more rules. < 1324637976 95511 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of "lol put 's and sometimes s' at the end of things when it's possesive except for contractions" < 1324637990 443044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kylmällämme" = with our cold, in that list above. < 1324638001 979400 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :poetic < 1324638055 333161 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "laavaanne" = "into your lava". < 1324638060 199314 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1324638064 717462 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEEP < 1324638081 485437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I /think/ I've made the code better < 1324638086 737235 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :by doing the lazy interpolation thing. < 1324638087 511765 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vastanne" = the second half of "et vastanne" ~= "you probably won't answer" < 1324638116 986288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish words.pl is so angsty < 1324638134 479502 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, "vastanne" = "your vasta" :-P < 1324638186 461395 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##Lazily interpolate the gram table on the fly < 1324638187 326404 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric : ##then cache the results < 1324638191 86785 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make it sound so fancy. < 1324638226 552490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where vasta = "A kind of whisk made of birch twigs and used in the sauna to enhance the effect of heat by beating oneself with it". < 1324638237 33106 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what < 1324638245 467681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinky. < 1324638247 231257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also called "vihta". < 1324638257 398388 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :finns are weird. < 1324638262 701094 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I figured I'd leave that out since there wasn't a one-word translation for it. :-P < 1324638264 967756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vasta is the East Finnish word for it, I think. < 1324638271 313878 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1324638288 639588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :('s what we call it.) < 1324638312 187015 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words -f 10 < 1324638315 872388 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: f < 1324638316 829055 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --f 10 < 1324638319 930069 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Option f is ambiguous (finnish, french) < 1324638323 818200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --fi 10 < 1324638330 560686 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoistavaa aihdoltanne kuoliittämielmiisi afroavaaksesi suosaksi jahtamiltänne säilemästä levissa innollannesi pelisemme < 1324638344 262799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again with the afros. < 1324638364 417004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pelisemme" is the diminutive of "pelimme", 'our game'. < 1324638371 939667 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the little games we play. < 1324638411 858487 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is going to be so much faster. < 1324638486 943646 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if my special case is actually even slower than this one. < 1324638499 527318 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it copies the table < 1324638512 223230 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas this one doesn't (but still does unnecessary normalization) < 1324638608 169690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make the %grams, %freqs into $grams, $freqs hashrefs so you can just non-copy assign, I guess. (And then just initialize them to {} if there's more than one @loaded_data. Or something.) < 1324638621 811240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more level of indirect-o-tron, of course. < 1324638632 983589 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the normalization has been rendered pretty much imperceptible < 1324638642 485559 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1324638645 614953 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no harm in removing the special case. < 1324638697 796590 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted the actual hash table itself isn't very large, maybe a few hundred keys at most. < 1324638703 997162 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a deep copy. < 1324638763 862213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe soon you can even get English words out of the bot. < 1324638781 202184 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by soon you mean "hours from now" < 1324638786 775655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Could you generate words too? Do you have it in you? < 1324638788 436336 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm having to reconstruct all the data for the billionth time. < 1324638789 947353 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, i was insulted and my honour was called into question and mr anastassopoulos, the vice-president and the other does not want any superfluous bureaucracy. the same applies to amendments nos 6, 8, 10, 13, 16, 20, 22, 25, 26, 28 to 30, 32, 43, 46, 47, 48, 51, 129, 52, 85 and 101. some amendments, for example, has not changed its mind since we last spoke about this with all due respect to mrs villiers and almo < 1324638790 120311 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :f~fs@unaffiliated/fizzie: madam president, the blessing given by the commission over the next two years. < 1324638794 774941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1324638798 154297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a "no". < 1324638827 58532 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you could have it randomly insert words.pl stuff instead of fnord < 1324638838 136264 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with fnord < 1324638841 924744 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would miss fnord if you did that. < 1324638866 838807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love a good discordian reference. < 1324638869 57064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <---- < 1324638939 845576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could stick in a random word every now and then, I'd just probably need to call to an external program for that. Unless of course I do a Befunge word generation module too. (I don't think the existing babble-code is quite "functional" enough for me to re-entrantly call it recursively.) < 1324638958 208264 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional befunge < 1324638969 898583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunce. < 1324638987 481158 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume by "external program" you mean "words.pl" since it's currently the cutting edge in word generation technology. < 1324639024 860924 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "words.hs" once I get around to writing it. < 1324639043 429656 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :for increased performance in your mission critical tasks. < 1324639074 574190 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right this markov model generator thing starts to eat up memory around this time < 1324639077 573167 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION closes programs. < 1324639153 683936 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, yes, in retrospect perl was a poor choice for this, since it requires a marginal amount of efficiency. < 1324639181 876120 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's actually not unbearably slow, HackEgo just has a strict time limit or is on a slow server or something. < 1324639200 474547 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs pretty quickly on my computer. < 1324639207 851644 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a few seconds: < 1324639209 513310 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1324640258 780234 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I shouldn't be flooring $r in the pick routine, right? < 1324640278 363240 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removed floor from that algorithm, because I don't think it makes any sense with floating point numbers. < 1324641233 116888 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete local is a neat construct < 1324641410 196437 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1324641443 390822 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324641480 83479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, if they're not integers it shouldn't be floored. Though I think with non-integers there's a chance that because of roundoff errors, pick might in fact fall out of the loop. Maybe. < 1324641494 720935 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I have that case covered. < 1324641655 631044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's on a prgmr VPS, isn't it? Those aren't exactly well-known for their computational power, at least the low-memory ones. (CPU scheduling weights equal RAM amounts.) < 1324641696 957232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though who knows, maybe Gregor's paying for four gigabytes or something. < 1324641746 288144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run free < 1324641749 526087 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :total used free shared buffers cached \ Mem: 250760 8416 242344 0 0 2292 \ -/+ buffers/cache: 6124 244636 \ Swap: 0 0 0 < 1324641754 475698 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324641754 702173 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the silliest command.) < 1324641771 639649 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm so, except for efficiency < 1324641804 181734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :!($blah =~ /.../) should be equivalent to $blah !~ /.../ < 1324641812 824841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run free # young hearts < 1324641815 664544 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :total used free shared buffers cached \ Mem: 250984 7416 243568 0 0 2292 \ -/+ buffers/cache: 5124 245860 \ Swap: 0 0 0 < 1324641820 942361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. < 1324641847 85887 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering which would be faster in my case. < 1324641895 243945 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $filter = qr/^[\p{Alphabetic}\p{Dash_Punctuation}\p{Connector_Punctuation}']+$/; < 1324641969 818342 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the majority of cases will match. < 1324641987 192734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when they DON'T match I go to the next iteration of the loop. < 1324641991 353618 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the !~ < 1324642032 539767 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's a way to avoid looping through the whole string via regex. < 1324642058 870501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I need to verify that every character is correct. < 1324642244 400115 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1324642288 928100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's welcome Vorpal in eir native language, shall we? < 1324642290 477743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --swedish 20 < 1324642297 7201 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kapte extreterskt distimrerna fogatalspla mistats kyparkullen brevärning allraskedjord folkningar ampulländ inistenade vifter frundaleranas omiersmäst årsrumme dalars kunskriffusk uppgrade matning orkanon < 1324642387 223318 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1324642547 384148 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --can 20 < 1324642557 236580 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :thairedoun apalmuds canism sept thrily guarrator blood's aceflecho cactere deoriopsis adverm aphilhorn anturstak slikeaks daubact burstruann posteachthy winghaytom dumaco absorphai < 1324642617 562239 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like an endless source of words for fantasy authors. < 1324642631 880987 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --english-fiction 20 #too slow, I bet < 1324642635 347107 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english-fiction < 1324642637 928648 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-fiction 20 #too slow, I bet < 1324642642 564334 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A random word geneator? Cool. < 1324642671 131567 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324642674 813519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster_: it's an improvement on an existing one that does English words... I say "improvement" but currently it runs too slow for HackEgo's tastes. < 1324642688 276998 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1324642692 78958 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've got a faster one that I'll be adding probably tomorrow. < 1324642696 58009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the very special "completely broken" sort of improvement. < 1324642714 669652 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :functionally it works fine. it's just inefficient atm. < 1324642736 290200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`word 20 < 1324642739 925525 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :luthilehedjass tican prtranichase bu compal ransuil nuchecanatige con paecclogrossl mas blumilins exce re ings fegenchmer le gehas maclaffien dolies lannebathceleablft < 1324642742 199184 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the old one. < 1324642753 601568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functionally speaking it's vastly improved, since it can now do Finnish and Swedish just fine, which are certainly an improvement over boring old English. < 1324642776 55449 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a generator for my graphing calculator once < 1324642806 46970 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I weighted certain letters gor each letter last. < 1324642825 453907 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also it can do Swinnish or Fwedish < 1324642847 916865 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was pretty ok, but it gave me a lot of qs for some reason. < 1324642858 31860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a word generator on a calculator? < 1324642872 882594 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ueah on my old TI89 < 1324642875 43784 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run word --swedish --finnish 20 < 1324642878 683510 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :hendish < 1324642885 76862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not 20 words. < 1324642895 72410 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm indeed not. < 1324642923 694877 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's when it timed out. < 1324642927 363052 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I think so. < 1324642928 655967 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops looks like I gtg, cya. < 1324642931 494605 :iconmaster_!~rooms@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Pardon me, but I have to die in NetHack again. < 1324642932 193281 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :bai < 1324642953 714666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish-Swedish folks tend to just mix the languages on a word granularity; or sometimes with compound words with Swedish beginnings and Finnish endings. < 1324642965 825300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jättekiva" and so on. < 1324642985 993558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you ran 'word'. < 1324642990 482061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish --swedish 20 < 1324642994 935111 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run word -N --swedish --finnish 20 < 1324642997 637758 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :somammands eksför tristammasse moriersi vastat sovvaggenerta omligenemalt amman kompiin tres snatorallvimma fiktattus illättän kärska geparampen kollammalteista hjä valtsaab rämassa siinhoittömina < 1324642998 355672 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :plesa < 1324642998 966303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1324643021 975643 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you finish your Markov thing yet? < 1324643065 868303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish --swedish 20 < 1324643071 918001 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :rudienseämpioisioiminnis ensatummalmarna eromatiomamas ogär balla röyhemme kiinpassandivas sönäni poängestanin söpöttstå waala olorukatsuttan säni kits fångelbani karförssioniste rikans kalleninkalisi käynnatts antustamenedus < 1324643072 568516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are such nonsense. < 1324643083 856115 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you surprised? < 1324643089 787898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. < 1324643105 215064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :balla < 1324643108 126290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1324643108 327480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1324643109 735986 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :balla waala < 1324643121 347021 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's slightly broken (on HackEgo) < 1324643125 517662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good. < 1324643131 880984 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: meaning it's too slow. BUT TOMORROW IT WON'T BE (I think) < 1324643140 876338 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1324643144 490924 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so only the smaller datasets work currently. < 1324643152 855855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it sucks. OK. < 1324643174 954322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti said 8h 36m 57s ago: I wonder how legit this is: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Introducing-Ubuntu-11-10-Without-Unity-228425.shtml < 1324643179 283096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: It's just GNOME 3. < 1324643184 263425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get that with an apt-get. < 1324643195 349986 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: also I'm thinking about switching to Linux Mint since it sounds like pretty much what I want. < 1324643213 592037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux Mint is beyond terrible. < 1324643216 941980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they're scummy. < 1324643233 898182 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this like.. based on things. < 1324643243 311596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1324643257 258593 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this opinion. < 1324643266 151082 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it based on things. < 1324643267 108284 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1324643268 377822 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :informations < 1324643288 729424 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay if it's not. < 1324643307 29634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the scumminess, here's one instance: < 1324643351 533825 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --can 25 < 1324643354 578713 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: can 25 < 1324643354 941312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Banshee the audio player, when directed to an audio store, uses a referral link that gives a tiny kickback to its developers. Canonical and the Banshee developers agreed on changing this to one that directs the revenue to Canonical, on the condition that 1/3 of the profits go to Banshee. < 1324643378 607258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Linux Mint developers, upon pulling this change into their distro, changed it to a new URL which gave 100% of the profits to themselves. < 1324643383 499605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without announcing it. < 1324643386 560433 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1324643387 883808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a misleading changelog message. < 1324643390 169584 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :looooooool < 1324643393 657986 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1324643418 360968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When they had to defend themselves upon it being widely reported, the guy actually said -- and I'm quoting from memory, not paraphrasing here -- "Any revenue stream in Linux Mint that does not go to us is a BUG, and if you see one, you should report it." < 1324643452 903002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also just don't really give a flying fuck about free software in general, they're opportunists. < 1324643462 355977 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I should hate them on ethical grounds. okay. that will make me feel slightly bad if I decide that it functions as I would like it to. < 1324643483 238592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also shit technologically, but that part's obvious. < 1324643511 683401 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canadian-english-insane --ogerman 25 < 1324643521 602092 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :arschede diskrew altlos ausführer graphe computag apperstempfeinfer offmänge heit seise plättillitier idous bewraph gas montertrobusüblin grimin unfelibe cyberginne allinigne gattress's creted wattungobah strammatine diosemplymph straturansgebäude's < 1324643522 531925 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO SLOW < 1324643540 702326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --canadian-english-insane 10 < 1324643542 405733 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you do realise that the immediately-accessible information on a given thing is going to be written with a positive spin, right? < 1324643546 620059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: You might want to do something like @ARGV = split /\s+/, $ARGV[0] if $#ARGV == 0 and $ARGV[0] =~ /\s/; or something like that so that you can `words --foo --bar 42 instead of having to remember to `run words --foo --bar 42. < 1324643550 506871 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :stolong und echinles rinodiacoi enkie hebbing gigasses diopagany synger sulphurre < 1324643556 311749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: This is worse than `word. < 1324643569 581065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not at all easy to find reasons that Mint is shit technologically if you don't already know where to look. < 1324643584 316347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I tend to assume competent people are capable of doing their own research? I mean, I wasn't exactly given the divine gift of knowledge that Linux Mint is shit. < 1324643589 879068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fine. < 1324643617 606191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It does rather pleasant Finnish, in fact. < 1324643622 316398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, of course, but 'doing your own research'? < 1324643622 488091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 20 < 1324643628 341248 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :osaapuilla vaihermu hylkään ikärkeamme pärisimme aalemaksensa kallanne pystämästään imaalaamaksenne vassasitisti alkutelmän asineesi yltäni suimaksi stresseen kokeasellesi muodostani irvelaankero kärpäseni loppina < 1324643634 387677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And very passable-looking Swedish for a Finn. < 1324643644 302397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do you look up criticism of a thing (this is an honest question; I have never been able to work this out)? < 1324643657 148900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pärisimme" = "we buzzed". (It's also a slang term for this and that.) < 1324643670 214937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And "hylkään" = "I reject".) < 1324643687 684990 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've rewritten it with Storable and am also doing a lazy interpolation thing. I'm sorry you think it sucks. Maybe insane canadian english just sucks? < 1324643710 168893 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is just waiting on the new data to finish so he can upload the changes. < 1324643768 96536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Unless you are incapable of installing proprietary drivers and things like Flash in Ubuntu or Debian, Linux Mint buys you exactly nothing. It is just a stupid reskinning and rebranding with proprietary software and its own http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/Mintupdate.png completely pointless http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Mint-Software-Manager.png duplicate shitty versions of software that already ex < 1324643768 306558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ists in its upstream distros. Also, it's not like they're offering to maintain GNOME 2; all they are doing is some shitty shell extensions that makes gnome-shell slightly more like GNOME 2, and shipping the MATE fork of GNOME 2, which is *not* Linux Mint-specific or anything, they're just packaging it. (It's already in the Arch AUR, for instance, as it's a project by (a subset of) the Arch community.) < 1324643798 219438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason people use it is because they're the kind of people who use Ubuntu, except they hear it has Flash by default and they like the skin. < 1324643800 585663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also "yltäni", "muodostani" and "kärpäseni" are words. Quite a high percentage that time.) < 1324643814 810323 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmmm, okay. < 1324643823 523297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Where do you look up criticism of a thing (this is an honest question; I have never been able to work this out)? < 1324643825 663102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Google "X sucks". < 1324643846 973773 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --ogerman 25 < 1324643853 446507 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark beeinblattseiträge teur sackerlicht heitellingeschichtsvorat bau gauswocherat frageerschzeitleiden übert doktagsfaktiviehuh entaubwand lobat tonne verwahlt extmarschung wegungsplander warenntlos haustralb inflanschaltwick fehlerquäle pochst laggezähnenblößer hineuwachdro kühlugließen elagt < 1324643855 975857 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not one of the results that come up first on my screen pertain to the X window system. < 1324643862 835128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ubuntu and Linux Mint adopt radically different update strategies. Ubuntu recommends its users update all packages and upgrade to newer versions using an APT-based upgrade method. Resulting problems and regressions are regarded as temporary issues that can be fixed by further updates. In comparison, Linux Mint recommends not to update packages that can affect the stability of the system and recommends the use of its Backup Tool and fresh install < 1324643863 51801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ations to upgrade computers to newer releases.[37]" < 1324643871 973577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahaha < 1324643878 870436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pandering to Windows users' insecurities I see < 1324643888 167116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...dude, X was a placeholder. < 1324643904 62143 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --german-medical 25 < 1324643904 794375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Linux Sucks < 1324643907 841125 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :antin interobiets aronchinavicum vollarend abschesistersmektion neurodynaprote modarmatoms nodatiolentere antihisch neurontger heta thronchol mittentwichtungsprol l�ssentepatoreaktion desalium wundteinw�rer digemfibronal grimentratikelgebo erysmografie immungen rektorvativ tasisteomycinsultimerbe bewegene virurgischem ionen < 1324643913 401247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Ubuntu 10.04 sucks < 1324643924 243189 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Linux Mint makes Ubuntu suck less < 1324643925 195664 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm those characters don't show up in my font. < 1324643933 285681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Why Linux Sucks (Less Than Before) < 1324643933 834802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What? < 1324643938 113665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Oracle Sucks < 1324643943 761902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you seeing the problem here? < 1324643956 893322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the top 5 results on DDG for 'linux mint sucks'. < 1324643957 867349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, because I have no idea what you're listing, or why you think em dashes are an appropriate character to denote them with. < 1324643970 265240 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck is there a german medical dictionary in Ubuntu repos. < 1324643983 673676 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22linux+mint+sucks%22 ;; admittedly, these aren't very good results, but they *are* about Linux Mint sucking. < 1324643988 425636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Nine out of 10 mad German scientists use Ubuntu; there's a market for it. < 1324644001 434630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, Linux Mint uses DDG by default. So clearly they've whitewashed it. < 1324644007 675461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qedd. < 1324644028 332076 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: should I maybe try Arch or will I break everything? < 1324644031 612042 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet I'll break everything. < 1324644041 485312 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wondering why I switched to DDG, struggling to come up with a good answer. < 1324644072 219435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: You will, yes. < 1324644090 551705 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but I bet there's resources on how to not break everything. < 1324644094 43964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: But you could use it as an opportunity to escape shitty DEs (while breaking everything). < 1324644095 268040 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could LEARN STUFF YEAAAAAH < 1324644098 839724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, there are, but you're an idiot. < 1324644123 152900 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not completely stupid. < 1324644140 790793 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1324644167 831973 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Official_Installation_Guide < 1324644170 71321 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks promising. < 1324644195 469720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not helping you if you fuck it up. < 1324644209 920595 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1324644215 641692 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll set it up on my external. < 1324644307 141839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, after me and another guy collectively spend paragraphs and paragraphs explaining to this guy why he doesn't want existentials, he posts again saying "hey I fixed it now, I'm gonna put it on Hackage, what do you think!!" without actually listening. < 1324644467 307127 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you have any trouble with wireless? < 1324644474 73906 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while installing Arch) < 1324644519 737645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use wireless on this machine. You should plug your computer into Ethernet. < 1324644523 511840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least while installing. < 1324644534 830716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no chance whatsoever the tiny livecd has any wifi drivers. < 1324644549 203330 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured. < 1324644560 79360 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to go with core anyway, just to see if it came with wifi. < 1324644675 336889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Core? < 1324644722 721329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Utnubbu netinst disc didn't have drivers for my wired Ethernet; that was the strangest. < 1324644751 530747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :People netinstall Ubuntu? < 1324644757 757895 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's "net" and "core" with core supplying extra packages and net being the barebones net install. < 1324644807 355048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I certainly wasn't going to download a DVD's worth of stuff. < 1324644811 739538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Oh. < 1324644814 141465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: You want the netinstall. < 1324644820 180627 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely. < 1324644823 301986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :core will just make you download everything again afterwards on the first -Syu. < 1324644832 440204 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /guess/ I can walk over to an ethernet cable. sheesh. so demanding. < 1324644832 611626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ...Ubuntu is a 600 meg CD ISO... < 1324644880 684227 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allows you to change your editor preference. You'll have the choice between nano and vi (and pico/joe/vim if you install those in a separate console). You can skip this menu, but you will be asked again when needed. < 1324644884 956066 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARCH HATES EMACS. < 1324644896 897393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, yeah, but the 'minimal' CD is still much smaller. Anyway, the 'alternate' CD -- which is the only way to do some installations, isn't it? -- didn't have the driver either. < 1324644925 449480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/560249 -- and apparently no-one seems to be fixing it, since according to the last message 11.10 alternate CD is still lacking it. < 1324644949 769532 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a very very good installation guide. < 1324644988 469384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "desktop" CD I think does have it, which is a bit weird.) < 1324645035 451759 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm so I could actually just dd the image onto my external. < 1324645054 905223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: which would leave you unable to install it onto your external. < 1324645060 809894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the external would be being used. To install it. < 1324645072 485695 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but it says the image is an Arch system < 1324645076 923186 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... that would install it for me. < 1324645101 432885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1324645122 897559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Here's my new strategy: Instead of explaining things to you, which would make me want to die, I will just say "no" whenever you should not do something for very good reasons. < 1324645126 803392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how I start: < 1324645128 139068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: No. < 1324645180 46295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Unless you want your system to never grow beyond ~100 megs. < 1324645189 573024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: And be preconfigured solely for the purpose of running an installer. < 1324645201 814599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have essential system configuration not done properly because the installer does that. < 1324645204 331790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ... < 1324645229 51256 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :The images run like any regular installed Arch Linux system. < 1324645229 223159 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, they're exactly the same, just installed to a CD or USB image instead of a hard disk. < 1324645232 343837 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :They include the entire "base" package set, as well as various networking utilities and drivers and have the aif package installed. < 1324645285 556294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Dude... stop trying to prove someone who actually runs an Arch system and has used the installer about 10 times wrong by quoting a wiki page that is intended for people trying to install the system in a normal way. < 1324645292 681998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is a LiveCD. Yes that's completely fucking irrelevant. < 1324645338 385007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The partition is a 100 megabyte CD filesystem (not anything reasonable or Linuxy), non-resizable. You will have to manually edit config files without knowing which ones you need to touch to stop it being the installation CD. It prints out "here's how to install" messages when you log in; you would have to manually remove those. < 1324645345 367871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are so many fucking ways in which that is a completely terrible idea. < 1324645354 783841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it if you want but you'll be a complete idiot. < 1324645361 375933 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was not so much attempting to prove you wrong as it was presenting what I saw as a discrepency. < 1324645465 882017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO9660 filesystem, in addition to being non-resizable, is also non-writable, which might be a bit of an issue. < 1324645530 863587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thiiink it might be used to contain an image which is mounted in RAM. < 1324645541 539764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: At least you can install packages on it (I installed w3m and irssi to view the wiki and IRC). < 1324645547 890441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, if you never want to make permanent modifications to it. < 1324645556 247272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1324646400 485043 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eng-fiction and eng-gb always finish first and then I'm stuck with eng-all, eng-1M, and eng-us for a few hours each taking about half a gig of memory. < 1324646633 447289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:30:21: kallisti: change of power balance, duh < 1324646641 803927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, i wasn't sure if everyone else was as dumb as kallisti < 1324646663 283537 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324646782 942370 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-230-58.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324646796 905002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:53:39: Is this the proper way to derivative of list type? newtype List' x = List' (Either (x, List' x) [x]); < 1324646817 911936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1324646840 280760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno what the algorithms look like for that < 1324646855 206734 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1324646856 272970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can probably mangle it into something more traditional algebraically.... < 1324646858 648604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*... < 1324646871 333216 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why would anyone seize control of power when there is /infinite amounts of energy/.. you can share it endlessly and still be infinitely prosperous. < 1324646879 509224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you're an idiot < 1324646879 996059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1324646881 708516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:15:29: eh I don't like LXDE < 1324646881 883031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:15:44: What about .. XFCE? < 1324646882 54208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:15:47: nope < 1324646884 531967 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you even tried xfce < 1324646887 413760 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1324646903 882749 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the reasons I don't like it are the same reasons you don't. < 1324646924 426121 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :limitations with the interface. < 1324646980 360360 :Slereah_!~butt@ANantes-259-1-188-57.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1324647010 660168 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've never used LXDE but what I mean by "I don't like LXDE" is "I don't want to use LXDE on my primary computer" < 1324647052 335125 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there's a good chance I won't like it. < 1324647107 254029 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1324647121 135824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lxde sucks. anyway just pacman -S cabal-install && cabal install xmonad < 1324647187 239627 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still waiting for a day where I don't need my computer in a stable configuration and where I have lots of free time that I can devote to not having an established system. < 1324647192 635374 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's taking a while. < 1324647204 836966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why are you installing arch < 1324647209 820189 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not. < 1324647211 48385 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet. < 1324647222 761479 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to play around with it on my external and see if I like it. < 1324647227 227354 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :later. < 1324647228 271031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway /me reinstalled and had xmonad setup basically usably within about 5 hours < 1324647250 168304 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a long time for someone who knows what they're doing. < 1324647390 32559 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm not entirely convined I want xmonad. < 1324647423 440678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll likely try it out. < 1324647432 71813 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-10.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1324647438 400810 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-46-10.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1324647438 572212 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1324647474 565828 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324647656 771008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's a long time for someone who knows what they're doing. < 1324647668 334775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of that was floundering about trying to solve a problem that was solved by a reboot. < 1324647686 890882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if you don't want xmonad, don't want GNOME 3, don't want KDE, don't want Xfce, don't want LXDE, what the fuck *do* you want? < 1324647695 933695 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. reverse Windows mind virus. < 1324647715 764833 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I haven't tried Gnome 3 classic, but I think that's what I want? < 1324647734 162106 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just got attached to Gnome 2. < 1324647802 870336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: GNOME 3 fallback mode is fine if you want something like GNOME 2 but worse... you know, such as Xfce. < 1324647822 815048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The difference being, of course, that the Xfce developers actually /care/ about their version of it, whereas GNOME's is a throwaway. < 1324648123 237875 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer is stupid hot. < 1324648158 439282 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the touchpad is warm. the fan vent burns a little bit. < 1324648236 727763 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1324648602 282229 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324648639 570778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next: flames are shooting out of the fan vent, the keyboard keys have melted off, ... < 1324648666 571016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The technical term for that is "Extreme Computing", also called XC.) < 1324648676 756139 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The case melts! < 1324648687 3936 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The silicon in the components sublimes! < 1324648706 444820 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The heat sinks become plasma! < 1324648733 77462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324648753 737577 :nooga!~nooga@86-63-82-221.sta.asta-net.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1324648785 590400 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CA5E.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324649679 969109 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1324649684 848355 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, all of these things are happening < 1324649686 29443 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more! < 1324650612 985580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The web corpus is larger than the googlebooks corpus, right? < 1324650643 678303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was, though not very many orders of magnitude. < 1324650709 265302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 2x as big? 10x? 1000x? 4 is "not very many" :P < 1324650736 330813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's check. < 1324650760 278214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to decide whether to store backwards RCT data in the weird non-reversed form or not; on the one hand, it'll inflate the file by less than the 2x it would doing it the "obvious" way; on the other hand, so inconsistent! and slower to go that way. < 1324650779 68088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't really want to have to buy a 2 terabyte external disk; do they even *exist*? < 1324650791 92801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly my representation will be rather more compact than PostgreSQL. < 1324650797 619528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if the web corpus is ~1 terabytes there... < 1324650915 299235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/books/ngrams/books/googlebooks-eng-all-totalcounts-20090715.txt first field (number of unigrams read) sums up to 360717742667, that is 360 million unigrams. LDC's catalog entry says the total number of tokens for the "Web 1T" is 1,306,807,412,486. So it's about 3.6 times larger in terms of total numbers of words read in to make it. < 1324650930 295072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In terms of unique tokens, the difference might be... different. < 1324650978 520892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, "size of resulting RCT" is mostly what I care about. < 1324650993 783787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So "number of 5-grams" is presumably the best approximation for comparison. < 1324650999 313614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes. < 1324651011 370497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll build it the big-but-fast way and measure(tm0. < 1324651012 786677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tm). < 1324651041 89610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, the googlebooks dataset doesn't give out a count of 5-grams. < 1324651076 347124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can't just sum up the number of lines in those 800 cvs files, since it's got all those per-year rows. < 1324651098 664674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Plus I don't have those 800 files.) < 1324651412 194131 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324651439 743142 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1324651497 164881 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hello! < 1324651498 187840 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: mr president, this report takes on a real and efficient internal market required that those rules already apply to average emissions from some refineries. part two of 18 and to reduce the length of the terms of the treaty, but allow me to refer to this post as ' chair' of the budget where we think it would be good to start this process. < 1324651504 680041 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1324651504 851686 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1324651877 394907 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:32 < elliott> And I don't really want to have to buy a 2 terabyte external disk; do they even *exist*? < 1324651880 375659 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1324651888 425827 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(obviously etc) < 1324651909 31430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Shut up, I remember 2 terabyte /internal/ disks being newfangled only a few years ago. < 1324651936 860999 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what an old codger. get with the times, bro. < 1324651995 163247 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:24 < rottenrec> anyone here do penetration testing, copywriting, or have extensive online marketing experience ? < 1324652000 218097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :looooool. < 1324652006 538232 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be like "what needs penetrating < 1324652008 705342 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :?" < 1324652008 913581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: . ? @ v < 1324652638 325369 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1324653437 138919 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → Ireland < 1324653438 923088 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1324654366 701178 :incomprehensibly!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324655794 346436 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kallisti: I have a 3TB internal disk :) < 1324655908 847242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Enjoy bad cost:space ratio < 1324655929 691710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also reduced reliability (at least ISTR hearing that the 2 terabyte disks were pretty unreliable back when they came out) < 1324655978 66071 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will, thank you. < 1324657788 242396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it it cost:space efficient if you count the physical space it fills in your computer :P < 1324657822 751669 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that 2 * 1.5 TB would fill twice as much space < 1324657871 863154 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi < 1324658124 852645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1324658605 329674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ARE YOU READY < 1324658777 418351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But are you, in fact, paying for four gigabytes of prgmr? < 1324658865 326746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wat < 1324659558 666006 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is master of all wats ;_; < 1324660885 952198 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324660894 516515 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oerjan! < 1324660904 89887 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day Ngevd < 1324660960 560338 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Aw, no Norwegian? oerjan's going to be so disappointed. <-- uff da. < 1324661390 827568 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let bjoin ll = case group $ map length ll of { _:_:_ -> error "Nonrectangular list"; _ -> concat $ transpose ll }; x = [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6]]; y = [[7,8],[9,10],[11,12]]; z = [[13],[14],[15],[16],[17],[18]] in [pl | pl <- permutations [x,y,z], bjoin (map bjoin pl) == bjoin (map (bjoin . map bjoin) [[x,y],[z]]] < 1324661391 609961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `]' < 1324661429 853943 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let bjoin ll = case group $ map length ll of { _:_:_ -> error "Nonrectangular list"; _ -> concat $ transpose ll }; x = [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6]]; y = [[7,8],[9,10],[11,12]]; z = [[13],[14],[15],[16],[17],[18]] in [pl | pl <- permutations [x,y,z], bjoin (map bjoin pl) == bjoin (map (bjoin . map bjoin) [[x,y],[z]]) ] < 1324661431 835793 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Nonrectangular list < 1324661435 889840 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1324661508 890606 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let bjoin ll = case group $ map length ll of { _:_:_ -> error $ "Nonrectangular list " ++ show ll; _ -> concat $ transpose ll }; x = [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6]]; y = [[7,8],[9,10],[11,12]]; z = [[13],[14],[15],[16],[17],[18]] in [pl | pl <- permutations [x,y,z], bjoin (map bjoin pl) == bjoin (map (bjoin . map bjoin) [[x,y],[z]]) ] < 1324661510 292193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Nonrectangular list [[1,7,3,9,5,11,2,8,4,10,6,12],[13,14,15,16,... < 1324661563 748744 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let bjoin ll = case group $ map length ll of { _:_:_ -> error $ "Nonrectangular list " ++ show ll; _ -> concat $ transpose ll }; x = [[1,2],[3,4],[5,6]]; y = [[7,8],[9,10],[11,12]]; z = [[13],[14],[15],[16],[17],[18]] in [pl | pl <- permutations [x,y,z], bjoin (map (bjoin . map bjoin) pl) == bjoin (map (bjoin . map bjoin) [[x,y],[z]]) ] < 1324661564 647006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [a]) < 1324661564 818379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_1123456789101... < 1324661577 443885 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1324661647 437329 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: But are you, in fact, paying for four gigabytes of prgmr? // 25GB < 1324661663 374177 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm paying for the server, not the HD, although I keep running out. < 1324662398 853912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{-# LANGUAGE TypeOperators, Arrows, TypeFamilies, FlexibleContexts, GADTs, RankNTypes #-} < 1324662401 965673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww yeah < 1324662641 474116 :PiRSquaredAway!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :PiRSquared17 < 1324663533 380295 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324663776 594950 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324663808 598018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I meant RAM. < 1324663923 869628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : HackEgo's on a prgmr VPS, isn't it? Those aren't exactly well-known for their computational power, at least the low-memory ones. (CPU scheduling weights equal RAM amounts.) < 1324663924 79022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : Though who knows, maybe Gregor's paying for four gigabytes or something. < 1324664325 252208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They're not that bad at computational power... < 1324664344 399124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not *bad*, but not good either; I've seen benchmarks. < 1324664345 518436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They're a bit slower than Linode when congestion is low, and a hell of a lot more reliable under congestion. < 1324664353 221974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am basing this on an Actual Benchmark(tm) I saw once. < 1324664367 463393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen some benchmarks by disinterested third parties. < 1324664370 647963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://journal.uggedal.com/vps-performance-comparison/ < 1324664388 143965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks very familiar. < 1324664432 103571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, first graph: Unixbench single process score, it's... somewhere a bit over 200, vs. Linode's 723. < 1324664435 481563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is summarising the results without re-reading them, though, so the passing of time may have made his reporting shoddy. < 1324664468 284755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Here's one that talks about peak-vs-whatever performance: http://journal.uggedal.com/vps-comparison-between-slicehost-and-prgmr/ < 1324664471 768150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just slicehost vs. prgmr, though. < 1324664479 255656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And slicehost are slow as shit. < 1324664488 833682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and also very variable. < 1324664504 504102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that actually shows prgmr slower than slicehost during congestion :) < 1324664511 984633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say: Too many variables. < 1324664545 648174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, prgmr also happen to be very generous with RAM at the price-points they're at, so it's a bit of an unfair comparison. < 1324664582 861065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, since prgmr CPU scheduler is weighted by ram size, if you have 256M out of a 32G server, that's one 128th of a (admittedly several-core) server if you happen to get neighbours who mine bitcoins all day. < 1324664592 231074 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linode 512 megs RAM, 20 gigs storage, 200 gigs traffic, $19.95/mo; prgmr 1024 megs RAM, 24 gigs storage, 160 gigs traffic, $20/mo; prgmr would have to be pretty darn slow not to come out on top there. < 1324664601 889917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're certainly very efficient if you start counting $s, that's very sure. < 1324664602 67501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe you have a really easy-to-serve but massive-traffic website and those 40 gigs are everything. :p) < 1324664632 617128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: They don't pack their servers that much < 1324664636 517758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their blog has server specs, IIRC < 1324664648 931872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall hearing anything about 32 gig monsters :) < 1324664675 445867 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.prgmr.com/xenophilia/2011/05/i-am-replacing-table-tonight.html ;; this talks about RAM sizes. < 1324664691 253086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So more like 16 gigs than 32. < 1324664702 908965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And >4 cores, at least that machine is. < 1324664740 775844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also I'm not sure how acceptable mining bitcoins 24/7 would be: < 1324664741 181511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. To knowingly engage in any activities designed to harass, or that will cause a denial-of-service (e.g., synchronized number sequence attacks) to any other user whether on the prgmr.com network or on another provider's network is prohibited. < 1324664741 366928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10. Using prgmr.com's Services to interfere with the use of the prgmr.com network by other customers or authorized users is prohibited. < 1324664744 969972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course these things are vague as always. < 1324664888 551783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: (Also a VPS sounds really suboptimal for mining bitcoins, since they don't usually have beefy GPUs. :p) < 1324664992 378544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:43:45: I just picked whatever elliott's "mchost" had for the low-level. < 1324664995 469646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's the cereal package. < 1324665048 363494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhoo, my 256M virtubox is on an Opteron 6128, apparently, so 8 cores, but I don't suppose a Xen domU can really ask the dom0 about how much physical memory the box in total has. < 1324665063 288621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - I'm also a very polite neighbour for someone. < 1324665194 104850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Who's that with, prgmr? < 1324665207 129962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would check pyralspite's load, but that would require emailing prgmr saying "I lost my ssh key /again/" < 1324665207 381805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the VPS provider of champions. < 1324665211 12140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think they'd start to get suspicious. < 1324665265 941547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had sort-of narrowed it down to prgmr and buyvm, and, well, http://www.doesbuyvmhavestock.com/ < 1324665273 666564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The answer is always "no".) < 1324665279 866388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:45:31: yes, because when that happens it means you matched the length from the histogram while also landing on a space to ensure a smooth word ending. < 1324665282 346721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also they seemed a bit weird.) < 1324665286 61427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I'm glad you're finally starting to see the genius of my scheme. < 1324665308 642929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Those people look a bit "fly-by-wire", to steal Gregor's terminology. < 1324665326 475345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, OpenVZ. < 1324665331 14968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you consider these people? < 1324665332 454514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do Xen too. < 1324665342 549129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, KVM. < 1324665357 656689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but they're still OpenVZ people. :p < 1324665363 100306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MARK CANNOT BE ERASED. < 1324665364 981713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmaybe. < 1324665380 764528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they support Windows. < 1324665402 387933 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently (in the words of someone else) they have a bit of a cult following. < 1324665409 731848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was expecting that doesbuyvmhavestock.com to be one of those single-purpose websites with a big "NO" because, um, they're a publicly traded company and people never sell their stocks or something? < 1324665558 451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "is it friday?" infoscreen in the lobby of our CS building had been changed into an "is it christmas?" infoscreen. Seasonal. < 1324666027 431449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"buyvm.net borders on a cult (in a good way). They only release stock when they feel they can adequately support it, and when they announce stock is coming, people watch countdown pages and hang out on their IRC channel, salivating. Once stock is released, it’s often gone within an hour. < 1324666027 642610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason for this Apple-store-like behavior is that they are one of the best budget providers. Good plans, sterling reputation, and they participate on WHT. You won’t find the smoking performance of a 6sync or linode here, but you will find solid nodes that don’t bounce and good service (for a budget provider)." < 1324666035 861776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: These people wack, yo. < 1324666064 630729 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-84-13-70-116.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Goodbye < 1324666636 693812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably where I got the "cult" from. < 1324668040 439928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw i was thinking about how you said the reflection package looked kinda inefficient to you < 1324668060 957429 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1324668079 635146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's probably not that bad, at least if what I'm imagining is its implementation strategy, because I've thought of a simplified version that seems obviously fast to me :) < 1324668148 368472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) use data Pointer x0 x1 x2 ... x63, data O, data I to represent pointers; (b) use runtime hackery to get a pointer directly to the thunk, rather than having to allocate storage for it (although ForeignPtrs don't have that much overhead to my understanding so it shouldn't matter much) < 1324668149 820591 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reappears. < 1324668152 844024 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Dood, PRGMR. < 1324668154 759489 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRGMR RULES < 1324668165 330300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously that fixes you to one pointer bit-width, but while we're being this unportable... < 1324668187 789337 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, HackEgo is slow because HackEgo is slow. < 1324668208 369881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Transactional HackEgo wouldn't be >:) >:) >:) < 1324668214 110498 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: WAITIN' < 1324668221 252457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hey, how do I insert "xN " for N in [0,64) in emacs, thx < 1324668229 715283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: YOU WANTED ME TO TEST IT MYSELF < 1324668257 369049 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you still have to actually construct a class dictionary encoding a bit pattern for your pointer < 1324668287 713555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm... let me try and implement this, 'cuz maybe i'm missing something :P < 1324668295 826311 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: WAITIN' < 1324668325 472102 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, I pay $20/mo for the 1GB plan. Neither an unbelievable nor terrible deal. < 1324668362 112096 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xah-forum.blogspot.com/2009/10/emacs-inserting-numbers-into-column-of.html NO XAH < 1324668363 337177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M NOT < 1324668364 853127 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh and you need the pointer to be stable, obviously, or intervening gc can crash your implementation... < 1324668367 259587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :USING YOUR FUNCTION TO ACCOMPLISH THIS SIMPLE TASK < 1324668394 606180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well yes. although i can think of fun ways around that :) < 1324668558 589727 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324668745 685179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm it occurs to me that there is no standard way to get the integer value out of a pointer < 1324668763 125255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1324668764 983869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ptrs are Storable < 1324668767 342691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind :) < 1324669102 822218 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: You are now graced with my absence. < 1324669150 530877 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-162-128-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324669337 29580 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think wii remote would be good input device for computer pinball game? That way, you can push the table at different strength and angle < 1324669385 469149 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it would be really easy to cause a tilt < 1324669405 642372 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The accelerometer always seems a little sensitive < 1324669463 180300 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Yes, it probably would be easy to cause a tilt, especially if tilting the controller would do that. You could correct sensitivity in software, possibly even add physical mass to make it harder to push if necessary, and you could do other things < 1324669643 223822 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Changing host < 1324669643 395009 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@unaffiliated/pirsquared17/bot/pirsquared17bot JOIN :#esoteric < 1324669690 522307 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@unaffiliated/pirsquared17/bot/pirsquared17bot QUIT :Changing host < 1324669690 693656 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1324669693 326158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 over 4.21 :( < 1324670035 882490 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-197-117.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324670037 947152 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-199-63.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324670168 715334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: gah this type hackery is tricky < 1324671044 788074 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1324671114 424734 :oerjan!oerjan@129.241.210.46 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1324672740 418925 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-195-137.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324672754 769638 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-197-117.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324672857 715211 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read something about "monadish" which seems like a monad combined with a category somehow. return :: m a a x; join :: m a b (m b c x) -> m a c x; (>>=) :: m a b x -> (x -> m b c y) -> m a c y; < 1324672900 145140 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap would be the same as the ordinary fmap, so it is still an ordinary functor, I think < 1324672982 667986 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, can you make comonadish? extract :: w a a x -> x; duplicate :: w a c x -> w a b (w b c x); < 1324673022 716873 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that seem correct? I don't know. < 1324673073 580897 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1324673130 216088 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: indexed monad < 1324673159 973702 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but yeah, I think your thing would be an indexed comonad < 1324673174 625504 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: O, OK, then. < 1324673242 904375 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do indexed monads work? < 1324673256 412717 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is there example? < 1324673537 403753 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1324675055 863265 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :a state monad whose state type can change < 1324675063 681929 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something that tracks whether a file descriptor is open or not < 1324675345 240740 :incomprehensibly!~Adium@207-108-177-137.slkc.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1324675368 928934 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/~conor/Kleisli.pdf < 1324675380 894437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is relevant. < 1324675383 471292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the one i'm thinking of :P < 1324676465 466752 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-147.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324676638 387200 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-195-137.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1324677684 604489 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324678247 787334 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324678247 998939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: My unending superiority to you continues < 1324678832 441860 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's that? < 1324679289 198259 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324679337 890935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: I'm currently 2471 units of betterer than you. < 1324679342 304647 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-147.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1324679658 787551 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me about y'all's traditional Christmas dinners. < 1324679777 36944 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1324679920 478575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is this, like, Jewish cultural studies? < 1324679944 288395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"YOUR ASSIGNMENT IS TO FIND OUT WTF THOSE WEIRD CHRISTIANS DO ON CHRISTMAS." < 1324680099 724591 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: consumerism. < 1324680107 10513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- kallisti, consumerist < 1324680116 138755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Our traditional Christmas food (I think it's the third or fourth time now) is tortillas with this ground-beef/bell-pepper/red-onion/assorted-spices/salsa filling. Very seasonal and Finnish. < 1324680152 603923 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1324680218 733604 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I... < 1324680462 619927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/55661 < 1324680464 594283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEHOLD, MORTALS!!! < 1324680520 811620 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders writing a password-protected State monad < 1324680538 275203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEHOLD!!! MORTALS!!! < 1324680545 448086 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wtfs at elliott's code < 1324680548 411374 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beholdi--what < 1324680553 271436 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you wrote code that wrote that? < 1324680571 613661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... well the data Txx and instance ReifyBit Txx yes < 1324680576 747921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the rest is hand-written < 1324680584 477142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the reifyBit < 1324680585 661119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1324680590 629464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the ones that are just lines with numbers < 1324680593 695278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everything else is me < 1324680599 829501 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help but think that this is an area where a Lisp-like would shine < 1324680612 69624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i could have templatehaskelled it easily < 1324680615 796455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl was just easier < 1324680617 405929 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :liskell (canned laughter) < 1324680621 501596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1324680628 328393 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp isn't amazing enough to do the things i did /after/ the autogenerated code < 1324680636 219447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the part you're meant to wtf at dammit you're all so shallow < 1324680657 378254 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried reading it but my eyes glazed over maybe i will try harder next time < 1324680665 108701 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely know the reflection stuff turns values into types and types into values or something < 1324680679 517777 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm guessing that this turns arbitrary data into a type? < 1324680687 949278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my own implementation of the reflection stuff < 1324680688 403732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1324680691 376113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR SPEED!!! theoretically < 1324680694 451667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means < 1324680695 908430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR UNSAFE!!! < 1324680714 236988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well it stuffs the value you give it into a pointer < 1324680719 328546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pointer is just 8 bytes (on 64-bit machines) < 1324680725 656929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :T00 to TFF represent a byte < 1324680730 17067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just assembles < 1324680739 857569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Address a T00 T11 T22 T33 T44 T55 T66 T77) < 1324680742 397258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where a is the value type < 1324680747 209652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest are the bytes of the pointer < 1324680755 139709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the Reify instance does the rest < 1324680761 978700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. turning it back into the bytes < 1324680764 472628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coercing them to a pointer < 1324680767 363549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading it < 1324680768 478975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and freeing it < 1324681016 715593 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Thank you for your legitimate answer that's not what elliott and kallisti answered. < 1324681028 768734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I answered something? < 1324681034 756430 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1324681035 414649 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1324681036 793742 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1324681042 466860 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kallisti: I ask because the traditional meal in the USA is very much the same as the traditional Thanksgiving meal in the USA; that is, turkey. I assume it's not that elsewhere. < 1324681072 370430 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never eat turkey for christmas < 1324681088 494052 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I don't even think we do like...a christmas dinner that's any kind of specific thing. < 1324681119 732482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, if you wanted the actual traditional Finnish thing, it's the roast ham (with this mustard cover thingie), but quite often in this modern multicultural days it can be turkey too. < 1324681161 876863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well, turkey for Christmas is definitely a Thing here, yes. < 1324681211 681381 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :loooool regex in Python < 1324681212 783493 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lame. < 1324681218 642543 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs moar perl codez < 1324681223 523233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I suspect the Americans were unable to come up with a new meal for their new holiday, presumably on account of being fucking idiotic enough to attempt to declare Genocide: The National Holiday. < 1324681228 168877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they just stole Christmas. < 1324681237 618000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s traditional dinner. < 1324681248 782994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not like PHP where your matches are preggo. < 1324681251 73660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What about a... turkey fajita? < 1324681261 37186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Christmas dinner is the primary meal traditionally eaten on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. Christmas dinner around the world may differ and the traditions present below can reflect the culture of the respective country it is being celebrated in. Turkey is present in a fair number of these meals." < 1324681264 130607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: A fair number, yo. < 1324681276 294792 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fair number in-deeeed. < 1324681278 484592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Christmas dinner in Australia is based on the traditional English version.[1] However due to Christmas falling in the heat of the Southern Hemisphere's summer, meats such as ham, turkey and chicken are sometimes served cold with cranberry sauce, accompanied by side salads or roast vegetables." < 1324681280 201850 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, turkey is an American bird. < 1324681287 238728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUSTRALIA YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE CHRISTMAS OKAY, ACCEPT IT < 1324681305 650606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's what they *want* you to think. < 1324681308 12918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's a set of I-think-they're-vaguely-Finnish-in-that-they're-not-exactly-the-same-things-elsewhere set of casserole-style dishes (carrot, rutabaga, I forget the third one), and this beetroot-based totally-all-red salad called "rosolli"; it's got beetroot, carrots, potatoes, apples, pickled cucumber; maybe other stuff. < 1324681308 983213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually came from Finland. < 1324681321 744267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually why on earth am I listing them when http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joulup%C3%B6yt%C3%A4 does it far more concisely? < 1324681323 858585 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of like how all Italian food is actually just derivative American food what with the tomatotrololol. < 1324681351 611619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: If you want to catch up with me better start writing AWESOME ANSWERS like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8616861/purity-of-functions-generating-bytestring-or-any-object-with-foreignptr-compone/8616941#8616941!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1324681403 502344 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1324681428 485639 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 8.0.1/20111120135848] < 1324681444 928373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "In England, the evolution of the main course into turkey did not take place for years, or even centuries. At first, in medieval England, the main course was either a peacock or a boar, the boar usually the mainstay. The turkey appeared on Christmas tables in England in the 16th century,[6] and popular history tells of King Henry VIII being first English monarch to have turkey for Christmas." < 1324681499 677935 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that makes sense for Henry VIII < 1324681507 319136 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And hi all < 1324681552 783973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Christmas ham or Yule ham is a traditional ham dish associated with modern Christmas, Yule and Fennoscandian Jul. The tradition is suggested to have begun among the Germanic peoples as a tribute to Freyr, a god in Germanic Paganism associated with boars, harvest and fertility.[1] It was later popularized by the Catholic Church as a test of truthful conversion from Judaism. Backsliding Marranos would decline to eat the Christmas ham, while authentic c < 1324681552 955480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :onverts could enjoy the pig meat with equanimity." <- Crafty Christians. < 1324681641 538411 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaaaaaan. < 1324681646 944918 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've made boar curry instead of turkey curry. < 1324681653 492302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bear curry. < 1324681663 633221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell curry. < 1324681708 287959 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you think Template Haskell is LamE? < 1324681716 472382 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo.......................... < 1324681787 171067 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Template.Haskell.TH.LamE < 1324681787 947865 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1324681793 367423 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erp < 1324681798 388007 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Language.Haskell.TH.LamE < 1324681799 617355 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Language.Haskell.TH.Syntax.Pat] -> Language.Haskell.TH.Syntax.Exp -> Language.Haskell.TH.Syntax.Exp < 1324681921 271536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you read my code??? I WORKED HARD ON THIS YOU GUYS < 1324681947 89401 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> curry bear < 1324681947 861179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `bear' < 1324681984 979302 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you answer that awesome thing I linked you? < 1324682002 482296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: What thing? < 1324682006 183187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1324682006 761833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1324682012 920994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it. mad rep, dawg. < 1324682020 647953 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how can I avoid the whole StablePtr business... < 1324682312 565542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo another upvote < 1324682320 678981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISIN' ABOVE YOU KALLISTI < 1324682322 30432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISIN' HIGHER < 1324682322 921849 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was me :P < 1324682338 816133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwwwwwww yeah < 1324682342 500135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My very own cabal < 1324682354 664875 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what kallisti's is < 1324682367 585484 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HOPE YOU UPVOTED ME ON MERIT AND NOT IDENTITY < 1324682370 815367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also huh? < 1324682446 707817 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On merit, yes < 1324682463 407987 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing to which kallisti linked you < 1324682470 698468 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what it is < 1324682498 753109 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an opportunity to ramble about the differences between functional and imperative programming and possibly get some rep as a result. < 1324682509 213692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh. Some terrible question that was already answered. < 1324682526 893186 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link? < 1324682544 854323 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love SO because it's like c2 without all the TopMind < 1324682587 488449 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, active < 1324682641 383692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also it's out of the bag now: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/ "News 2011-12-19: New revision of ISO/IEC 9899:2011 C standard (C11) published" < 1324682680 643013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Ask kallisti for the link :P < 1324682685 314123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : kallisti said 8h 19m 25s ago: A FP vs. imperative question. Have fun http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8611211/differences-in-separation-of-static-and-stateful-code-in-different-languages < 1324682686 826376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1324682693 40474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: C11 is a cat? < 1324682733 411580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can certainly implement a cat in it. < 1324682772 282574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: I love SO because IT'S LIKE CRACK. < 1324682775 817700 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("meow") < 1324682792 218323 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia should implement a point system < 1324682838 390346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My incredibly accurate extrapolation tells me that I should have 91,688 reputation in a mere year. < 1324682850 740478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*accurate and scientific < 1324682892 227685 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :epeen.se < 1324682901 736976 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: it has one. It's called "edit count" < 1324682905 572980 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://epeen.se/ 404 ;__; < 1324682907 997639 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and various subsets of that. < 1324682912 778412 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on namespace < 1324682950 881465 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Wiki tribes take great pride in their individal edit counts, using them as a means to structure their hierarchical society. < 1324682955 55506 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'll have to get on Area 51 and fix that < 1324682995 103086 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOD MOTHERFUCKING DAMMIT BUSYBOX < 1324683010 14657 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NO REASON FOR "-f" TO BE AN INVALID ARGUMENT FOR POWEROFF. < 1324683025 788288 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE THE CODE RIGHT HERE. "-f" IS IMPLEMENTED. THERE ARE NO IFDEFS. < 1324683026 877980 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORK. < 1324683100 258259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NihilistDandy: Oh, .stackexchange :P < 1324683105 410417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were just Swedish or something. < 1324683116 75505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe StackExchange should buy the .se TLD. < 1324683125 763886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: You probably have a newer version of the code than you're running. < 1324683146 320221 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1324683146 579018 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Really though, BusyBox coreutils? Why? < 1324683160 119847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm actually looking at the tarball I just compiled this out of. < 1324683215 508881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think busybox has some screwy non-ifdef config stuff too. < 1324683217 260812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be wrong. < 1324683230 545700 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kconfig. < 1324683413 426427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ifdef. < 1324683442 733889 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1324683477 485640 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (****) < 1324683478 245984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `****' < 1324683484 199450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t toChurch < 1324683484 986759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `toChurch' < 1324683488 659142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t evalCont < 1324683489 494616 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `evalCont' < 1324683490 138417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1324683504 583814 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let elliott = error "Attempted to describe elliott" < 1324683505 588794 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1324683509 291117 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t elliott < 1324683510 82169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a < 1324683523 404083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1324683655 823701 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahah. < 1324683846 284517 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Musl bug. < 1324683914 856478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: In what... strcmp? :P < 1324683921 864818 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: reboot < 1324683944 753556 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The libc call reboot is int reboot(int cmd), right? < 1324683961 123310 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :musl implements that as just syscall(SYS_reboot, cmd); < 1324683975 821054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: The glibc call, yes. < 1324683985 399164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYNOPSIS < 1324683985 588722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /* For libc4 and libc5 the library call and the system call < 1324683985 760192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : are identical, and since kernel version 2.1.30 there are < 1324683985 760307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : symbolic names LINUX_REBOOT_* for the constants and a < 1324683985 760357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fourth argument to the call: */ < 1324683986 401626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include < 1324683988 417083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include < 1324683988 799080 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, the Linux syscall reboot expects a couple magic values. < 1324683990 406990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : int reboot(int magic, int magic2, int cmd, void *arg); < 1324683992 459079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : /* Under glibc some of the constants involved have gotten < 1324683994 444338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : symbolic names RB_*, and the library call is a 1-argument < 1324683996 416129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : wrapper around the 3-argument system call: */ < 1324683998 418983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include < 1324684000 434657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : #include < 1324684002 440344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : int reboot(int cmd); < 1324684004 427644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Depending on the haeder you include. < 1324684006 459880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*header < 1324684101 729082 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1324684192 387474 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1324684201 386638 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC stuff is just so goddamned stupid. < 1324684523 779474 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1324684549 585582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I presume it's to avoid accidentally executing garbage which reboots the system < 1324684555 557644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1324684558 613925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage = random data bytes < 1324684619 345150 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's a motherfucking easteregg. < 1324684749 657149 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-244-20.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAGIC1 is 0xfee1dead, MAGIC2 is Linus' birth date, MAGIC2{A,B,C} are the birth dates of his kids. < 1324684779 478807 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh..... < 1324684780 101209 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1324684781 516863 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1324684783 715113 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1324684797 208734 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUYS IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY LEXICALLY SCOPE SOMETHING IT'S NOT GOING TO PACKAGE SCOPE