< 1325721856 545477 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pal alphabet = join . iterate (>>- (\c -> map (\e -> e : c ++ [e]) alphabet)) $ [] : map (:[]) alphabet in pal [0..] < 1325721857 971588 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0],[1],[2],[3],[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10],[11],[12],[13],[14],[15],[... < 1325721901 137899 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1325722040 247338 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pal alphabet = (>>- id) . iterate (>>- (\c -> map (\e -> e : c ++ [e]) alphabet)) $ [] : map (:[]) alphabet in pal [0..] < 1325722041 832833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0,0],[0],[0,0,0,0],[1],[0,0,0],[2],[0,0,0,0,0,0],[3],[1,1],[4],[0,0,0,... < 1325722065 1885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aha i think i might have figured out a way < 1325722092 89610 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm I don't know how to rewrite the map so that it's logicy... < 1325722112 18293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NO WAI < 1325722187 986724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a type family per inEndo thing though so it's not really any better < 1325722211 736752 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map return [1,2,3] >>= (+1) < 1325722212 528528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [a]) < 1325722212 845505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_11231' at ) = inEndo (nest.nest) (<*>) < 1325722311 313589 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map return [1,2,3] >>= (>>= (+1)) < 1325722312 105697 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num [b]) < 1325722312 264654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `e_11231' at map return [1,2,3] >>= map (+1) < 1325722399 661467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2,3,4] < 1325722472 350485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pal alphabet = (>>- id) . iterate (>>- (\c -> map return alphabet >>- map (\e -> e : c ++ [e])) $ [] : map return alphabet in pal [0..] < 1325722473 47714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `in' < 1325722483 150917 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pal alphabet = (>>- id) . iterate (>>- (\c -> map return alphabet >>- map (\e -> e : c ++ [e]))) $ [] : map return alphabet in pal [0..] < 1325722484 417386 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[],[0,0],[0],[0,0,0,0],[1],[0,0,0],[2],[0,0,0,0,0,0],[3],[1,1],[4],[0,0,0,... < 1325722519 453625 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea if that completely covers every conjunction. < 1325722661 927437 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1325721816987.jpg < 1325722702 204025 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those... marshmellows? :P < 1325722718 82172 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to guess it's some kind of cheese. < 1325723082 829101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325723198 994204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1325723213 605788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: Those had BETTER be marshmallows. < 1325723247 955456 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doof, I posted in the wrong channel. < 1325723353 154666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: I'm not sure saying anything in this channel can count as wrong. < 1325723391 249582 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1325723810 593854 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ...that is a patently wrong statement. < 1325723836 328465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1325723845 695202 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many ways to be wrong it's truly staggering. < 1325723848 270618 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is staggered.
< 1325723861 290370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not wrong in your choice of channel. < 1325723908 542110 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1325723972 382662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1325724014 844476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['a'..] < 1325724015 638243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~\DEL\128\129\130\131\132\133\134\135\136\137... < 1325724023 613407 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['A'..] < 1325724024 405975 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~\DEL\128\12... < 1325724105 388201 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a rather ... interesting input < 1325724110 282661 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my bot's brainfuck interpreter < 1325724113 295610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t with < 1325724114 127568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `with' < 1325724115 869278 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quiet fun < 1325724119 672827 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t in < 1325724120 307175 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `in' < 1325724137 536870 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf < 1325724141 611591 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxBound :: Char < 1325724142 403677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\1114111' < 1325724156 852462 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind if I bring it in here for a minute? < 1325724175 867058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots in here? perish the thought! < 1325724182 800002 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1325724184 579266 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's quiet I don't see why not. < 1325724188 782445 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf ,[.,] < 1325724189 258906 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lahwran: please use this feature in ##crow. < 1325724195 542434 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, people were spamming it < 1325724203 779343 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org PART :#esoteric < 1325724206 869424 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-fe7ef900-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325724252 79710 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1325724254 554249 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :.bf ,[.,] < 1325724255 29274 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lahwran: Teree I was, ling n my bed with myriidcock in m hand. Iyy wife depthroating my cok while her shoping udddy lickd could barley wal bt with her hlp I manged myway. We entese Tabbby suckng onher fingers.. "ou mightt like thhis insught and managed to lift me up witout poppiing out of meand fit, he presse aainst my knees, aiing me spread thee as fr his hand. I cold feel hhi liipss smile as hhe traied away frt o cum." ""Mmm m < 1325724256 653529 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1325724262 875403 :crow3!lahwran@sonicrules.org PART :#esoteric < 1325724276 659161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1325724287 482187 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :it randomly samples from a corpus of text porn. < 1325724287 640559 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: standard cat program, what's the problem? < 1325724294 386144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good < 1325724298 905933 :lahwran!lahwran@unaffiliated/lahwran PRIVMSG #esoteric :and feeds that to the input of brainfuck < 1325724344 512105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes, but not wrong in your choice of channel. <-- WOULD YOU LIKE TO RETRACT THIS STATEMENT NOW? < 1325724426 741599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? okay then. < 1325724472 74237 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1325724497 2777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wat < 1325724512 69441 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oerjan grate joke < 1325724525 38 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha (ha) < 1325724612 888079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: how dare you call my jokes grating -----### < 1325724633 428654 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :very greating < 1325724694 580291 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length ['a'..] < 1325724695 371658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114015 < 1325724706 324010 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :how... infinite < 1325724737 311947 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if I need that many >>-'s in my program... < 1325724766 645091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let pal alphabet = (>>- id) . iterate (>>= (\c -> map return alphabet >>= map (\e -> e : c ++ [e]))) $ [] : map return alphabet in pal ['a'..] < 1325724767 983783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","aa","a","aaaa","b","bb","c","aaaaaa","d","cc","e","baab","f","dd","g",... < 1325724801 759056 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the outer one seems to be enough??? < 1325724916 571150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (>>-) < 1325724917 521622 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a b. (MonadLogic m) => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b < 1325724933 905689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (MonadLogic m) => m (m a) -> m a < 1325724934 452026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: Unknown class MonadLogic < 1325724934 610414 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad join :: Monad m => m (m a) -> m a < 1325724934 766549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.QuickCheck.Property joinRose :: Rose (Rose a) -> Rose a < 1325724939 165794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1325724953 789160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>- id < 1325724957 56975 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadLogic still require Monad as well < 1325724974 628022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: duh that's what i started from < 1325724975 577625 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw its description < 1325725045 393534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl map return f >>= map g < 1325725045 587449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :map g =<< map return f < 1325725053 691278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl fmap return f >>= fmap g < 1325725053 889478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap g =<< fmap return f < 1325725057 60957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1325725071 171120 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Logic a = Logic a < 1325725086 100299 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance (MonadLogic a) => Monad (Logic a) where ... < 1325725087 846919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1325725095 416808 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmmm MonadLogic doesn't define return I think. < 1325725106 406200 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you don't define MonadLogic by >>- you use msplit and then >>- and everything else derived from that, I found the information. < 1325725124 267071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t msplit < 1325725124 584485 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a Haskell package for that < 1325725125 60100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (m :: * -> *) a. (MonadLogic m) => m a -> m (Maybe (a, m a)) < 1325725246 822847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: you don't need >>- unless the right argument function can generate an infinite list < 1325725281 182511 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn37-133.vpn.utu.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1325725332 238494 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am doing groundbreaking research into PALINDROME SEQUENCES ON INFINITE ALPHABETS. < 1325725477 385089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1325725789 425865 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :palindromes are core to my research hcraeser ym ot eroc era semordnillap < 1325726127 625103 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1325727394 982463 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sick be why < 1325727398 192760 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :body bad feel < 1325727402 243106 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me like no < 1325727407 588342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1325727450 549024 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me english write notation polish reverse using < 1325727708 415966 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325728065 724716 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325728644 267912 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1325728685 615011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1325728790 804059 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good day < 1325728901 916193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good day < 1325728917 234755 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good afternoon! < 1325728965 390008 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning. < 1325728975 52240 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good evening!! < 1325729081 938014 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other kind of indexed monads and indexed comonads are there, other than the ones I have been told and figured out? < 1325729179 376409 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out some which are indexed monads and ordinary comonads, and some which are ordinary monads and indexed comonads, but is there some which is both indexed monad and indexed comonad? < 1325729236 304330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly! < 1325729240 466090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know. < 1325729576 358472 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype IxWriter c x y z = IxWriter { runIxWriter :: (c x y, z) }; newtype IxReader c x y z = IxReader { runIxReader :: c x y -> z }; newtype IxState x y z = IxState { runIxState :: x -> (z, y) }; < 1325729591 826389 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IxWriter and IxState is indexed monad, and IxReader is indexed comonad. < 1325729629 667109 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1325729721 218395 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But c has to be a category for working indexed monad of IxWriter, and indexed comonad of IxReader. < 1325730605 362792 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, that AttoASM thing seems nice. < 1325730741 349534 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always good to have another minimalistic virtual/real machine. < 1325730747 264106 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I've had a few drinks. Which is pretty weird considering that I haven't. < 1325730913 770496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: maybe you have and forgot?? < 1325730919 220846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: yeah it looks cool < 1325730945 797026 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I sure hope not. < 1325730954 880662 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alcohol and paracetamol blend poorly. < 1325731027 119075 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8A9FE.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1325731157 67415 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's my favourite drink < 1325731161 372356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol + liquid paracetamol! < 1325731167 862042 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel sorry for your liver. < 1325731207 239568 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Kleisli morphisms for a indexed monad have to belong to a indexed category? < 1325731222 947261 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or to anything else similar to a category at all? < 1325731245 851887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's what the doctor said. < 1325731256 836487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i wish i could answer your interesting questions but i cannot :( < 1325732001 732853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastlog fmap\^ < 1325732005 40219 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lastlog: unexpected argument: fmap\^ \ Usage: lastlog [options] \ \ Options: \ -b, --before DAYS print only lastlog records older than DAYS \ -h, --help display this help message and exit \ -t, --time DAYS print only lastlog records more recent than DAYS \ -u, --user LOGIN print lastlog record of the specified LOGIN \ < 1325732051 368382 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog fmap\^ < 1325732058 87805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log fmap\^.*3 < 1325732082 600644 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1325732096 235154 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1325732315 980233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap < 1325732316 931999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) a b (f1 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1) => (a -> b) -> f (f1 a) -> f (f1 b) < 1325732317 762194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325732318 593734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) a b (f2 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2) => f (f1 (a -> b)) -> f (f1 (f2 a -> f2 b)) < 1325732319 544908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325732320 347777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (f :: * -> *) a1 b. (Functor f) => (a1 -> b) -> (a -> a1) -> f a -> f b < 1325732324 304824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325732325 97294 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (f :: * -> *) a1 b (f1 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1) => (a -> a1 -> b) -> f a -> f (f1 a1 -> f1 b) < 1325732327 232657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325732327 907274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) a b (f2 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2) => f (a -> b) -> f (f1 (f2 a) -> f1 (f2 b)) < 1325732349 873629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I forgot the pattern completely < 1325732865 405904 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325732994 774852 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325736514 822465 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325736714 58091 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the Impossible Physics book. < 1325736959 160330 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325736962 116617 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MSleep < 1325737857 894411 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I made it using De Bruijn macros. < 1325738641 183073 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-224-117.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325738658 936022 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-152-218.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325738748 910319 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed that my token expansion function seems comonadic; it is of type (ProgramState -> [Token]) and [Token] is the type of one of the fields of ProgramState. < 1325739948 215456 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, may I ask? < 1325740254 757971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may ask nothing. < 1325740257 172189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What?) < 1325740310 461300 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no < 1325740559 73584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro stands up for American values once again. < 1325740677 850384 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-224-117.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real American values, no less. < 1325741754 163960 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: bye < 1325742238 534811 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/Spnac.jpg < 1325742535 8642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd click it < 1325742669 856428 :iamcal!u1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hllmxxhlpazharqv JOIN :#esoteric < 1325743296 71980 :NihilistDandy!~NihilistD@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1325745175 123089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help, what do I do if I broke causality? < 1325745383 715325 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1325745554 925089 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325746011 839664 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1325746122 329588 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325746223 273971 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: SLEEP, GLORIOUS SLEEP < 1325746501 476024 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just cause it to be causal. < 1325746527 363408 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :then time becomes a loop then time becomes a loop then time becomes a loop < 1325746553 127349 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QER_yqTcmjM < 1325746757 537544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsbosbo < 1325746983 713733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: this thing is always 1 second away from breaking out into a remix < 1325748096 269986 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just had another silly idea < 1325748129 245024 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case i think it would be best written with ORK < 1325748137 786779 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Tailor object < 1325748162 744557 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what this Tailor does is create clothes for a humanoid 3d model < 1325748187 623734 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an artificial intelligence model of a fashion designer < 1325748230 634292 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only mention ORK since it seems to give human qualities to it's objects < 1325748514 974292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325748538 843947 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind. carry on :-D < 1325748910 166396 :fizziew!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1325750079 818754 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: yo should i sleep < 1325750236 941631 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :bounce loop! < 1325750385 133220 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Sleep is good for you. < 1325750404 836925 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a bounce loop in programming? < 1325750490 959388 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in any language, including esoteric < 1325750659 517787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends what you mean by that. < 1325750698 199420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean a forwards-backwards-etcetera sort of loop, many languages with an instruction pointer with a modifiable direction might qualify. E.g. Befunge >.....<. < 1325750746 809407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean "computes by using bounced email messages somehow", that's a bit less probable maybe. < 1325750768 123628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean something related to pogo sticks, then that's just weird. < 1325750779 606765 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1325750869 667388 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaay for weeeeird :D < 1325750905 415684 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though. Well it basically goes in one direction, once it reaches the end, it starts going back in the opposite direction and once it reaches some condition, it can "bounce" from it and basically repeat < 1325750917 589608 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean it as natural construct, no emulation < 1325750951 124769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite a natural construct in Unefunge. < 1325750968 448582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far more natural than something that'd just loop unidirectionally. < 1325750981 166079 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frooxius: the instruction pointer proceeds in only one direction as far as i am aware < 1325750985 235908 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to be emulated surely < 1325751006 537443 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: well the point is, that in some languages it doesn't proceed in one direction < 1325751008 913209 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know this for certain < 1325751019 263003 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh thanks < 1325751034 480277 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the instruction fetch cycle on most cpus is probably unidirectional < 1325751039 333985 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have a look at Unefunge < 1325751046 751412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just Befunge on one line. :p < 1325751069 655387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> anycodehere _ in Unefunge is a "bounce loop" like that, with the right end a "pop from stack; if zero, continue on; if nonzero, start going backwards", while the left end is an unconditional "flip back". < 1325751070 773021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `in' < 1325751080 201742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: Can't you tell Befunge from Haskell? < 1325751093 324141 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: we're on esoteric languages forums. There's no such thing as "most CPUs" :P *giggles* < 1325751120 798798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need something complicated like >#; anycodehere #;_ to make a non-bouncy loop. < 1325751149 972822 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think valid Haskell wouldn't have given you an error message. < 1325751157 513980 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas Befunge did. < 1325751166 769920 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that would indicate that lambdabot can tell Befunge from Haskell. < 1325751171 224150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, yes, if you want to be all *technical* about it. < 1325751174 946516 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell/Befunge polyglot? < 1325751210 176898 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In the case that your program is both valid Befunge and valid Haskell, lambdabot will default to treating it as Haskell. < 1325751306 672597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "I default to Haskell" -- 025*"egnufeB ot tluafed I">:#,_@ < 1325751307 464192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "I default to Haskell" < 1325751311 742761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You seem to be correct. < 1325751320 482315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What a surprise!) < 1325751368 543760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I need to be photographed. -> < 1325751430 894421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The folks responsible for our keycards were all "you should've been given one with a photo years ago instead of keeping this ancient 'visitor' card" when I went to complain it stopped working over the year-change.) < 1325751708 900861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey shachaf. < 1325751714 117106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sameKey :: Key a -> Key b -> Maybe (Equal a b) < 1325751714 272923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sameKey (Key k) (Key k') < 1325751714 429790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : | k == k' = Just $ unsafeCoerce Refl < 1325751714 429870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : | otherwise = Nothing < 1325752003 480878 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't eat and watch QI at the same time < 1325752030 231966 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a Refl? < 1325752050 185539 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that can be coerced into an Equal a b I guess < 1325752068 675364 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey elliott. < 1325752072 82021 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helliott < 1325752080 660994 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's what being in an IRC channel with you is like. < 1325752112 789248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes. < 1325752117 543797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: data Equal a b where Refl :: Equal a a < 1325752126 924285 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, unsafeCoerce Refl? < 1325752196 424595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Does it reassure you if I told you the Key constructor isn't exported? < 1325752236 594056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that given the other part of the API, < 1325752239 682403 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether asking for more context will change my attitude toward life for the positive or the negative. < 1325752242 918950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :newKey :: IO (Key a) < 1325752249 428612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no constructors, you can implement: < 1325752252 650424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Locker < 1325752256 254038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lock :: Key a -> a -> Locker < 1325752261 777077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlock :: Key a -> Locker -> Maybe a < 1325752346 138548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: The actual context is Vault. < 1325752371 52992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, Locker is being added to the API, and I realised you could implement the entire API (inefficiently) with just newKey and sameKey. < 1325752377 437567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Including Vault itself.) < 1325752432 383081 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1325752558 149300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8736774/mapping-with-pairs, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8739451/getting-minimum-values-of-mappings < 1325752565 821161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a new Haskell class must have just started somewhere. < 1325752696 705126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sameKey is quite morally sound, anyway. < 1325752710 120176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just saying that if you have two identical objects, then they must have the same type. < 1325752725 45563 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it's weaker than that, it's just if you have two identical Keys, then they must have the same type argument :) < 1325752756 118752 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You often have convincing rationalizations that things that you do are morally sound. < 1325752757 227049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is trivially true because each Key is created in IO (and so is monomorphic like IORefs) and each one gets a unique identity. < 1325752771 18818 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that you *need* those rationalisations so often... < 1325752771 175073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's great! < 1325752786 380028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least nobody can complain about the exposed Vault interface itself. < 1325752791 329523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it isn't my library in the first place. < 1325752802 520272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I did convince him to use unsafeCoerce instead of IORefs and unsafePerformIO. < 1325752866 382066 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafePerform :: (T :: Set -> Set) -> T a -> a < 1325752893 264951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf++ < 1325752910 85101 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially good with, e.g. T = Not. < 1325752921 66685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not would be a good monad. < 1325752986 796393 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The problem is twofold: first, there is no known general-purpose computer that can execute all the programs we can think of except the naughty ones ... There are no hearing aids, only computers we put in our ears ... There are no radios, only computers with fast ADCs and DACs and phased-array antennas ... " < 1325752990 838493 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Freedom in the future will require us to have the capacity to monitor our devices and set meaningful policy on them, to examine and terminate the processes that run on them, to maintain them as honest servants to our will, and not as traitors and spies working for criminals, thugs, and control freaks," Doctorow warns ... < 1325753005 105712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: By the way, do *you* have a simple explanation for http://stackoverflow.com/a/8738053/1097181? I distinctly recall hearing one once. < 1325753065 907889 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, is that the fmap^6 = fmap^10 thing? < 1325753077 900545 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bane of my existence. < 1325753097 514695 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's fmap^4(k+1) = fmap^4. < 1325753109 840443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where ^ is repeated application, not composition. < 1325753130 230923 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is why my ideas inventing Hypernet protocol (a 100% decentralized networking protocol with packet security on everything, runnable over many modes of communication, including computer disks transfer, printout on paper, writing by hand, telephone, amateur radio, books, etc), and the new computer idea I have, and to eventually build and sell, including complete printed documentation, hardware diagram, etc < 1325753142 685779 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hmm. < 1325753152 948570 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a simple explanation for it < 1325753159 239278 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've wondered about it several times before. < 1325753166 266400 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find a simple explanation for it, please tell me. < 1325753175 580860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might have been oerjan who explanated it. < 1325753188 613199 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you know how you can usually stick a bunch of fmaps in front of things to get rid of parentheses? < 1325753205 164694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some sufficiently vague definition of that, sure. < 1325753233 976871 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't always work, I think, no matter where you spread the fmaps around. < 1325753240 985531 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a combinator you can do that with in general? < 1325753252 374722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: iota :p < 1325753256 170115 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should get closer to "general-purpose computer that can execute all the programs we can think of except the naughty ones" than most things due to my idea design hardware and BIOS (both completely free specification and open source); and trademarks to protect some things too, and even built-in programming feature (in Forth and in BASIC, again with complete printed documentation). But only in time can you know for sure... < 1325753270 569929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's just asking whether there's a single-combinator base-thing in Hindley-Milner with typeclasses, no? < 1325753286 881271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except with the ability to interleave other expressions too. But it's basically just a combinator question. < 1325753301 681677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that Okasaki thing with the two combinators that don't need parens. < 1325753310 245598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's in untyped LC though. < 1325753317 630718 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew you would mention Iota or something. < 1325753329 135143 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That answer doesn't satisfy me for whatever reason. Though I guess it should. < 1325753389 271843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: My prediction is yes, there is such a basis, because you could use the types to get yourself the equivalent of two combinators. < 1325753400 267925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick your types wisely and you should be able to express everything. < 1325753406 986207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The types as in typeclass instances. < 1325753420 15211 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates type classes.
< 1325753423 462670 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst feature of Haskell. < 1325753487 416172 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, I should try to make even the hard drive to be made completely of free software, if possible, and even the CPU design to be completely of free software < 1325753692 143718 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Things (ALL things) should be sold with their schematics. Does not have to be in paper form in the manual, but at least a downloadable PDF would be helpful. I would also certainly not complain if compilable source-codes for the firmware were available too" ... Yes, it is what I shall plan to do, all these thing, except PDF because I don't like PDF very much. < 1325753745 63529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also the only feature. < 1325753777 669112 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just imagine all the sorts of possible hacks - without the slightest bit inconveniencing the "regular users" whom nobody forces to download and read the specs. And imagine the ability to figure out that the given device is a piece o' crap by looking at its schematics before it is bought." < 1325753788 709841 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes this is very good. < 1325754407 502794 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you fail to understand Forth programming or any other programming, you can still simply insert the disc and push START button. See, it is as easy to use as any other devices, possibly even more easy and simply, and even simpler by design that hackers can use, too; not only for ordinary people. < 1325754538 719086 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kallisti who else update? < 1325754570 863144 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else update indeed. < 1325754717 292624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Behold the quality of SO's suggested edit queue: http://ompldr.org/vYzJpZA < 1325754736 747135 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it must be done somehow to convince other people that the other device and computer and program and stuff is bad due to their actual reasons such as DRM and spying and so on, and to tell that these new one my idea, are the better one; such as freedom, local function, secure, reliability (such as not broken due to internet broken), privacy, provability, etc < 1325754738 392986 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION would approve it, but ran out of votes for today.
< 1325754787 727696 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is that one of those "has anything ever do look more like" sentences? < 1325754816 661195 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not managing to read the whole thing. < 1325754817 691328 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cash is acceptable as payment < 1325754855 594345 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Also, you're SO-famous enough to be able to approve things? < 1325754869 797567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Suggested edits, yes. That comes at 5,000 rep. < 1325754877 147816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual moderation tool things come at 10k, which I should hit in less than a month. < 1325754902 691559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm not sure, but "dfgsgdfgdfgersdfdfgg" is definitely a worthy addition to the question. < 1325754907 292656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is the bold italic. < 1325754915 279431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Also two people have to approve anything, so it's not like I'm omnipotent. < 1325754929 513408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can just unilaterally edit posts anyway, so it basically gives me no power at all. < 1325754934 693852 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ereyesterday I had 1 karma; yesterday I had 2; today I have 4. < 1325754953 820438 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should hit 1048576 in 10 days, clearly. < 1325754973 93232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be quite impressive. < 1325754982 100651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's only about 3 times the top user's rep. < 1325754992 702189 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, by 10 I mean 20. By which I mean 17. < 1325754996 110792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming I can count, which is a dangerous assumption. < 1325755017 531963 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a world where you have any power at all. < 1325755046 558126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a world we are all burdened with. < 1325755051 404212 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe StackOverflow is just a secret plot to keep people like elliott away from politics. < 1325755078 297994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the fuck is Klaymen's Theme in my head. I can't deal with this, I'm sleep-deprived. < 1325755083 776731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think I needed SO to accomplish that. < 1325755084 728514 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Klaymen's Theme! < 1325755087 681021 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott++ < 1325755094 720435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, meaningless internet points! < 1325755097 136452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know I like those a lot? < 1325755104 904547 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did! < 1325755125 846638 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have Neverhood-nostalgia too? < 1325755167 820140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a sufficiently lax definition of "nostalgia". I'm not sure when I played it, but it definitely wasn't when it came out. < 1325755173 662131 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was many years ago, though. < 1325755180 395935 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't it come out in 1996? < 1325755184 229211 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play it then either. < 1325755192 447215 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was youngish at the time, though. < 1325755197 369463 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly a single-digit age. < 1325755205 182556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says yes. < 1325755211 783753 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you know you could solve the mouse puzzle just by following the mouse's nose? < 1325755252 266126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I do now! Things I also just learned: I've forgotten about 90% of the parts of the Neverhood that aren't the music. < 1325755269 441087 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's OK, the music is the best part anyway. < 1325755274 37069 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than the parts that aren't the music. < 1325755281 415644 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put commercials on television to question copyrights. Put commercials in television to ban DRM. Put shows on television that are only available on analog service, and only without encryption, and including complete commercial skip and without overlays added. < 1325755290 791307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1325755323 253681 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google potatoes tomatoes gravy and peas < 1325755324 205353 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6R5x1VP2b4 < 1325755324 363510 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: The Neverhood - Potatoes Tomatoes Gravy and Peas - YouTube < 1325755339 949228 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also including captions for both shows and commercials, so that they can be printed out. < 1325755347 780451 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google southern front porch whistler < 1325755348 652580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZgx997HjqE < 1325755348 810464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Southern Front Porch Whistler - YouTube < 1325755388 16895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, the Neverhood article links to the Grim Fandango article. That is also a game! < 1325755392 666755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a coincidence! < 1325755408 694569 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't played that one.
< 1325755426 791210 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that link is completely rubbish. < 1325755428 731177 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get rid of it. < 1325755440 677866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should though, it's a really good game. < 1325755444 230513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the controls. < 1325755450 891496 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I played Monkey Island 4. < 1325755462 748693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's the same engine. < 1325755466 115366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the game isn't terrible. < 1325755473 304897 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MI4 isn't *terrible*! < 1325755483 948979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, "bad". < 1325755492 67476 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1325755505 396044 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is time to fight with heavy computers that can still be throw out of a window!!! < 1325755506 703162 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like MI1... Or MI2... Or MI3... < 1325755509 803799 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1325755521 859303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Well, it's probably not all that bad a game, but the association with the franchise makes it more disappointing. < 1325755535 90914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is true of quite a few things. < 1325755535 248996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From our departmental issue tracker:) "Title: B243 closet noises" "I think B243 holds some networking equipment. Anyway, FYI its emitting some strange whining noises." -- this was 3 weeks ago. It sounds like the start of a bad horror movie. < 1325755540 274822 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good game? < 1325755544 244416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the networking equipment closet, no-one can hear you scream. < 1325755550 369713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Pong! < 1325755554 757828 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Pong isn't actually a good game.) < 1325755554 920071 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psychonauts is good in a way roughly similar to how the Neverhood is good. < 1325755560 399748 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't played Psychonauts. < 1325755563 324967 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1325755564 613147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it came out, my computer was too bad for it. < 1325755568 225597 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should play Psychonauts. < 1325755568 382238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I never got around to it. < 1325755577 341579 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: When it came out, I wasn't aware of its existence. < 1325755595 305749 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't stop me from playing it later. < 1325755599 303752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll bother to play Psychonauts if you bother to play Grim Fandango. Now we can procrastinate without blaming ourselves! < 1325755600 769913 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Come on, play Psychonauts. < 1325755605 894575 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Fair enough! < 1325755621 877000 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have a CD of Grim Fandango somewhere. < 1325755631 764213 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, my father has it. And he's 10 time zones away from here. < 1325755635 980797 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is time to blame the MPAA on the energy crisis!!! < 1325755671 288744 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it is time to blame the MPAA for causing energy crisis!!! < 1325755681 641123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You could INFRINGE UPON ITS COPYRIGHT. < 1325755700 736915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ultimate anti-piracy measure will be games getting bigger faster than internet connections get faster. < 1325755736 370828 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I like how the phrase for "a game that you can pay for in order to download in accordance with regulations" is "digital download". < 1325755745 920119 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's in contrast to "analog download". < 1325755760 688599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's the best way to download real numbers. < 1325755777 830393 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I want to do is download some fingers, man. < 1325755788 746208 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Clearly the ultimate anti-piracy measure is to include specialized hardware with your game. < 1325755790 910265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Residual (ScummVM subproject to do GrimE too) website claims that you can now play (with "few glitches") all the way through Grim Fandango with it now. < 1325755800 758588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks Grim Fandango might be better than MI1.
< 1325755806 738989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not for the controls, at least. < 1325755814 640143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And you can play the intro video of the demo of Escape from Monkey Island. That's... not quite as far.) < 1325755838 61406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would just use a VM. < 1325755845 327899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the most resource-intensive game. < 1325755858 762909 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :VM running what? < 1325755868 282000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win``doze''. < 1325755873 143525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win``nap''. Win``light sleep''. < 1325755882 592047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :``Lose''``light sleep''. < 1325755884 971803 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where am I going to get a Windows CD? < 1325755893 985140 :HackEgo!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `Lose''``light: not found < 1325755895 572118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With an analog download, of course. < 1325755902 883114 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you crinimal. < 1325755908 625305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cinnamon < 1325755941 607167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is it just me, or did ScummVM realise they support every adventure game anyone actually wants to play and just went on a hunt for more and more obscure platforms to implement for kicks? < 1325755945 656304 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1325755968 671383 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you ever play the Discworld games? < 1325755981 21696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, ScummVM can do Toonstruck now??? < 1325755981 178047 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of things that ScummVM supports. < 1325755983 465351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take my remark back. < 1325755995 342609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think I played one of them for like five minutes once. < 1325755996 293618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no. < 1325756025 326002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ScummVM's Tinsel (i.e. Discworld) support was real sucky back when they first included it. I guess it's better now, too. < 1325756131 63558 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There was an annoying bug where it let you play through the entire game but then an item was missing in the final ending ultimate eventual supreme concluding terminating sequence. < 1325756141 449225 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by item I think I mean dragon. < 1325756159 808165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have heard something about a missing dragon, it sounds familiar. < 1325756195 516396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just played through the first game on DOS, and I think I started the second one once but then for some reason didn't finish it. < 1325756199 387061 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?p=67208&sid=44ec24bd244e3e1d3971fe90d51bd4cc < 1325756486 176905 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to simplicity of the system, and lack of DRM, makes my system the once most energy efficient too. And in addition, we will even omit whatever parts you don't want (such as printed manual, etc) ! < 1325756810 385300 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One features of this BIOS is user-definable error emulation mode. Media with physical defects can still be copied! And BIOS can be adjusted by moving jumpers and user programmable ROM without software requiring data in ROM because all system call must be using NMI call and the ROM data and BIOS control cannot be accessed otherwise. < 1325756825 819920 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also mean, no unique identification data can be accessed by the computer software. < 1325756989 652554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Did you know that Stack Overflow has the single best piece of user interface ever? < 1325757010 42786 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't know that. < 1325757013 508561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You can only post comments every 15 seconds. Whenever you click the "post comment" button before the timeout expires, it pops up a little message telling you the timer hasn't expired Yet. Then it resets the timer. < 1325757013 665555 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't. < 1325757029 432419 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg < 1325757030 398493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The result is hitting the button every 14 seconds about 500 times in a row. < 1325757038 990954 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor elliott has to learn the art of patience. :-( < 1325757041 53564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's morale-building. < 1325757052 720775 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that a UI thing or does the server check? < 1325757060 29431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The server checks. < 1325757064 943863 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The really great part is that it says 15 seconds, but it's actually 16. < 1325757071 262355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can honestly think of no conceivable reason to do it other than to annoy people. < 1325757088 40765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I really hope that's true. < 1325757169 470623 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lack of the copy protection even means that the store won't run out of copies; the store can make their own copy or the customer can do so, too. < 1325757274 967094 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like all those words zzo38 is saying. < 1325757399 416275 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Including the punctuations and sentences? < 1325757698 181419 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: But mainly the words. < 1325757774 139720 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1325757781 619985 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1325757804 101295 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is not a complete meaning unless you make the words into sentences too < 1325758690 801927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1325758691 760751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :catseye started watching ehird/funge-archive 2 days ago < 1325758691 916838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :funge-archive's description: < 1325758692 73623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :An archive of various Funge-related material, focusing on (Be)funge-98. < 1325758692 236334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1325758695 971396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I might have to actually update that. < 1325758812 640102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ho. There is an EYEBALL on you now. < 1325758851 354433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your GitHub profile is still one of my most-viewed webpages thanks to completion. < 1325758870 145004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, he's watching you too. < 1325758871 413975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel the eyes. < 1325758881 353155 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO. < 1325758881 660028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The... cat's eyes. < 1325759855 496780 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey QUIT :Quit: The Other Game < 1325760665 953695 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325760889 557381 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325760902 182848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325760934 352066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PART :#esoteric < 1325760950 629449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325760961 602006 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325760970 313664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason all the window borders in Chrome have turned red. < 1325760981 783045 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it didn't work that time. < 1325761007 834832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: This time it turned all the window borders in Chrome read. < 1325761008 627690 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :red. < 1325761013 612493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325761024 981532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon Phantom_Hoover will discover that in the hoov univers, his entire family is made out of hoover. < 1325761029 744925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUGH THE FIRE < 1325761054 608649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers | hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325761061 598864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers: hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers, hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers. hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers? hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers! < 1325761097 277143 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is that a dialect of Ook? < 1325761102 33243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE REEDY PIPES OF THE AWFUL FULLNESS < 1325761102 665709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers. < 1325761103 300875 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover is now a BF derivative. < 1325761109 162858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1325761112 488181 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's going to brickbrain himself < 1325761114 294585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the brick < 1325761117 26812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :will be < 1325761118 494315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hoover < 1325761119 129971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325761126 109825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, elliott is a creator of a BF derivative. < 1325761132 233914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1325761134 494712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You brought this on yourself! < 1325761138 826866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF!!!! < 1325761143 503572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FACE YOUR ENDING hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers hi Phantom_Hoover welcome to hoov univers < 1325761165 469274 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm to blame here, actually. < 1325761168 526140 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws a brick southwards.
< 1325761176 530109 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should know better than to say anything in IRC that's ever been said before. < 1325761177 22565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha! < 1325761181 340824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the hoov universe, topology doesn't work like that. < 1325761184 418406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws another brick southwards.
< 1325761185 210849 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also geometry, but topology sounds fanceir. < 1325761187 363231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancier. < 1325761189 611553 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC people have a high sensitivity to things being said twice. < 1325761192 226227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're actually throwing bricks at yourself. < 1325761194 907402 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As they say in IRC: < 1325761199 97885 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Zero, one, or infinity" < 1325761203 713062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the hoov univers, all paths point Phantom_Hooverwards. < 1325761209 441746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You forgot two. < 1325761215 940627 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is now attempting infinity (and beyond) < 1325761227 17791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure, but some of them also intersect you. < 1325761230 239991 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You forgot two. < 1325761233 940301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, it's like a black hole. < 1325761241 27420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But only for bricks. < 1325761265 130499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you know how geometry works. < 1325761270 704298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IF ONLY YOU READ MAC LANE < 1325761279 803689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Excuse me, this is the hoov univers. < 1325761287 711520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geometry works in whatever way is least personally convenient for you. < 1325761309 505417 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoov universe is #esoteric? < 1325761332 232527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only with the e. < 1325761337 279449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hoov univers is the matrix of solidity itself. < 1325761342 252574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's generated by a hoover. < 1325761343 45001 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#soteric < 1325761345 146578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A phantom hoover. < 1325761929 11993 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree with me??? Let's accuse the MPAA/RIAA of wasting energy too much!! < 1325761952 641844 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1325762094 923919 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with zzo38. < 1325762098 371288 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you? < 1325762123 842806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with everything zzo38 says. Even the ridiculous things. < 1325762134 623140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the... well, there's no other things left. < 1325762283 266777 :shachaf!~shachaf@ip24.67-202-82.static.steadfastdns.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some of the things zzo38 says aren't ridiculous if you take them out of context. < 1325764119 173880 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1325764122 839046 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1325764191 730540 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1325765020 122034 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1325765033 564283 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1325765403 575137 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1325765422 549475 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325765448 757810 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Client Quit < 1325766129 935158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325766833 589329 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1325767052 718988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1325767201 389818 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of Haskelӏ < 1325767231 136198 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of stupid topic changes | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325767264 299482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How does your log formatter decide when a quit should be shown in channel; you don't NAMES periodically so that requires unbounded lookback < 1325767268 341716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FINALLY I get that question in while he's here. < 1325767268 977881 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1325767298 766080 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: My formatter does not work over a partial log, it needs history. < 1325767303 654143 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1325767308 520993 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the purposes of quits it doesn't. < 1325767324 780950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, you regenerate complete history? < 1325767328 207284 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1325767340 828272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Niice... < 1325767356 360791 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The raw logs are canonical, everything else is a nicety. < 1325767370 217076 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, but you should still NAMES periodically to handle desyncs >_> < 1325767379 335050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Periodically = when you switch files, most likely) < 1325767392 56997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to treat quits specially if the logs are already separated by channel < 1325767414 919000 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The logs are only separated by channel if you have a per-channel bot ... < 1325767450 759939 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's probably reasonable, but doesn't accomplish anything I care much about to be honest. < 1325767461 618730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well what i mean is that the logic is when you separate things by channel, which happens before even the .raw stage, no? < 1325767476 338025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1325767479 90567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it could be done by glogbot directly < 1325767520 668470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is glogbot initially writing everything into one big file for all channels combined, or is it writing into separate files for each channels immediately? < 1325767530 600659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1325767542 672486 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: One big combined file. It just dumps IRC. < 1325767544 756318 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1325767548 754671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha. < 1325767580 183743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By your channels combined, I am Captain glogbot. < 1325767585 147195 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bot does as little intelligence as possible so that if the intelligence needs to be fixed or is buggy I can always pass it on. < 1325767600 114879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so you do need to seek back to the previous NAMES then, i gues < 1325767602 333954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1325767612 556502 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't seek, I just carry the names in the channel. < 1325767626 3853 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be silly to seek, since the names list is also modified by PART, NICK, KICK, etc. < 1325767660 854677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i mean that NAMES tells you the last point for a channel which you don't need to look before to know the nicks present < 1325767681 725246 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, yes. < 1325767706 928323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course if you are doing a rescan of entire history each time you generate files... but isn't that expensive < 1325767723 764565 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only regenerate files if things fuck up. < 1325767745 246322 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If things fuck up because I crash, then I don't care, I now have a new starting point to generate from. < 1325767757 374150 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If things fuck up because my generator was bad, then I want to regenerate. < 1325767775 809511 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me explain the process more completely. < 1325767786 389853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you ever miss a single QUIT or PART because of server issues, you have to special-case it in the generator. < 1325767787 856043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you even notice. < 1325767789 49421 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :glogbot outputs a log. Its entire session is one log. All PAST sessions are previous logs. < 1325767808 858063 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never need to read past sessions because a fresh session will always have NICK. < 1325767825 618764 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I should never need to restart current sessions unless things crash, but if things crash then I'm fucked anyway. < 1325767847 869536 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/have NICK/have NICKS/ < 1325767852 605980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok so it's per session, not periodically split, i guess that makes it easier < 1325768204 925415 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325768205 119080 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1325769057 20258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: By the way, do *you* have a simple explanation for http://stackoverflow.com/a/8738053/1097181? I distinctly recall hearing one once. < 1325769063 801708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just writing it out? < 1325769075 276987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap = fmap . fmap < 1325769093 174601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap . fmap) fmap = fmap (fmap fmap) < 1325769115 802370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = fmap (fmap fmap) fmap = fmap fmap . fmap < 1325769147 656566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap fmap . fmap) fmap = fmap fmap (fmap fmap) = fmap . fmap fmap < 1325769153 848040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325769175 849643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap . fmap fmap) fmap = fmap (fmap fmap fmap) = fmap (fmap . fmap) < 1325769205 876031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = fmap (fmap . fmap) fmap = fmap . fmap . fmap < 1325769258 578012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap . fmap . fmap) fmap = fmap (fmap (fmap fmap)) < 1325769302 879566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = fmap (fmap (fmap fmap)) fmap = fmap (fmap fmap) . fmap < 1325769325 588065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...shouldn't there have been ar repetition by now. < 1325769451 913878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1325769542 791210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap (fmap fmap) . fmap) fmap = fmap (fmap fmap) (fmap fmap) = fmap fmap . fmap fmap < 1325769578 429819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = (fmap fmap . fmap fmap) fmap = fmap fmap (fmap fmap fmap) = fmap . fmap . fmap, finally < 1325769597 58149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap^12 = fmap^8 < 1325769661 769203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...actually that's not the usual meaning of f^n as functions, but anyhow. < 1325769702 822377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325769718 4869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769718 838858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (f :: * -> *) a1 b. (Functor f) => (a1 -> b) -> (a -> a1) -> f a -> f b < 1325769723 392096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769724 26659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a (f :: * -> *) a1 b (f1 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1) => (a -> a1 -> b) -> f a -> f (f1 a1 -> f1 b) < 1325769727 269988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769728 299431 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) a b (f2 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2) => f (a -> b) -> f (f1 (f2 a) -> f1 (f2 b)) < 1325769730 719560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769731 514483 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) a b (f2 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2) => (a -> b) -> f (f1 (f2 a)) -> f (f1 (f2 b)) < 1325769737 765063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769738 558547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) (f2 :: * -> *) a b (f3 :: * -> *). (Functor f, Functor f1, Functor f2, Functor f3) => f (f1 (f2 (a -> b))) -> f (f1 (f2 (f3 a -> f3 b))) < 1325769744 393047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769745 184995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b (f :: * -> *) a1 (f1 :: * -> *). (Functor f1, Functor f) => (a1 -> a -> b) -> f1 a1 -> f1 (f a -> f b) < 1325769748 417720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap < 1325769749 407918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) (f1 :: * -> *) a b (f2 :: * -> *). (Functor f1, Functor f, Functor f2) => f1 (a -> b) -> f1 (f (f2 a) -> f (f2 b)) < 1325769814 111458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so 6 has the same type as 10, is the first repetition < 1325769849 166107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia's pretending to be oerjan? < 1325769892 512151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = fmap . fmap fmap; fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap fmap = fmap (fmap fmap) . fmap < 1325769973 966689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmap . fmap fmap) x = fmap (fmap fmap x) < 1325770003 445304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is still a function, so < 1325770042 85413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric := fmap (fmap . x) < 1325770098 954192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (fmap (fmap fmap) . fmap) x = fmap (fmap fmap) (fmap x) = fmap fmap . fmap x < 1325770117 424838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both still functions < 1325770150 712413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fmap (fmap . x) y vs. < 1325770191 794242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fmap fmap . fmap x) y = fmap fmap (fmap x y) < 1325770215 846691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the functor law of course, they are equal. < 1325770249 140795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : isn't that just writing it out? < 1325770253 942662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does not _explain_ it, mathematician :P < 1325770274 211749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i cannot recall an explanation then < 1325770428 912828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:46:28: Also, you know how you can usually stick a bunch of fmaps in front of things to get rid of parentheses? < 1325770432 6541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:46:45: For some sufficiently vague definition of that, sure. < 1325770434 581845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:47:13: It doesn't always work, I think, no matter where you spread the fmaps around. < 1325770467 921734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr it always does. < 1325770500 287687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1325770527 777853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want there to be no parentheses around the fmaps either, it gets trickier < 1325770790 25905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with parentheses it's easy enough: a b (c ... y z) = (.) (a b) (c ... y) z and now you have handled one variable, iterate until there are none left < 1325770822 653869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point the remaining initial blob can only contain parentheses and .'s < 1325771313 460414 :Gregor!foobar@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of frequent stupid topic changes | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325771343 533493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of the frequent stupid topic change singularity | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325771872 766549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of the frequent stupid topic change singularity: the Sequel | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325771948 725109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=math < 1325771954 193407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like maths that little bit less now. < 1325771962 74427 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325772075 487158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously that's because you're an idiot, duh < 1325772201 40830 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325772211 355913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You read a Maddox page and your take-away from it wasn't that you like Maddox that little bit less now; you must have reading comprehension difficulties. < 1325772252 4115 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1325772291 131122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it would be quite difficult to make me like Maddox that little bit less. < 1325772305 552880 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16424659 < 1325772318 645167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Ah; also referred to as "Tau Zero". < 1325772322 18436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without the spaceship. < 1325772327 311803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it has a zero in it. < 1325772340 28082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in any case liking maths that little bit less is the more noteworthy effect, as maths is good and Maddox is... not. < 1325772355 952823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's good at reminding the world that some people are just awful? < 1325772359 896678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Public service. < 1325772379 5117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Ha ha, you get your news from bbc.co.uk, like an OLD person. < 1325772436 101781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddamned Swedes. < 1325772489 933877 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1325772593 993694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The only positive result of me clicking that link was "ha ha, the shithead has totally sold out by adding margins and a Facebook like button". < 1325772608 227127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the flipside I'm now an advocate for genocide. < 1325772621 195121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would sue you, but the plan is to kill you anyway. < 1325772642 262461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i got tricked to click an amazon link :( < 1325772654 644165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was another page on the website < 1325772680 81145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The main problem here is that you wanted to go to another page on the website. < 1325772682 342444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately i can thwart his scheme buy continuing my policy of not buying anything online. < 1325772705 170790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*by < 1325772849 239051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hey, I can make you like him a little less: < 1325772851 23632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[How old are you? / Where do you go to school? / Where do you live? / What is your major? < 1325772851 221509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the time of this writing I'm 26, I go to school at the University of Utah; my major is math.]] < 1325772864 643198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, in context, mathematics is now double ruined. < 1325772875 333712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vomit* < 1325772880 91816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1325772884 136113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can he be doing maths < 1325772885 882165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Utah, man. < 1325772890 84878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet know next to nothing about it < 1325772891 124566 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's only doing one math. < 1325772892 657863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's, like, Utah. < 1325772898 396956 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtraction, maybe < 1325772909 605879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: :D < 1325773303 669279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, for more Maddox, check the comments in /r/math. < 1325773665 826608 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematics has many military and banking applications < 1325773725 467060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :death and taxes, it's all math < 1325773728 773243 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i admit that humans are quite capable of killing each other without logic < 1325773866 913593 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess to be fair what i should say is, society is always able to force mathematicians to work on military equipment since society controls the flow of money < 1325773915 246296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have been surprisingly inefficient in my case < 1325773979 545154 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that the point is that math has positive purposes which are beyond the agenda of any economic entity < 1325774004 634758 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that it has to endure being used for evil < 1325774077 119742 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my head i am unable to want world peace... to me a world peace sounds fascist and sterile.. a bit like a museum < 1325774136 797881 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is to say, i have concluded that the goal of humans is not to develop peace < 1325774154 606903 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that is the goal of some though < 1325774342 3206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an isolated village can cope with daily internal conflict.. < 1325774361 944321 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't require an absence of conflict < 1325774416 516087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Or perhaps you only think they have been ineffectual, while in reality they're killing people with your theorems every day. < 1325774438 593557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1325774457 329871 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a funny quote about dennis the menace "that boy could turn a marshmallow into a dangerous weapon" < 1325774506 198630 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every technology is devoid of moral quality in itself.. i mean, it is only in the application of some technology that it is good or evil < 1325774546 645767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this baby blender is entirely morally neutral < 1325774575 665035 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21, UK or US Dennis? < 1325774588 839549 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :US cartoon i think.. the goofy blonde kid < 1325774595 742758 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :US. < 1325774631 619843 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well.. what i think about this is < 1325774653 855237 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that people have a standard view of what objects are used for what... < 1325774675 996140 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. (now gaining insight) this enables people to detect abnormal behavior more readily < 1325774700 909623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a relatively safe bet that few outside the UK even know that the UK dennis exists. although i somehow bumped into it on wikipedia. < 1325774723 570072 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know it was the UK/US thing < 1325774742 77840 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have encountered a picture of the black haired dennis and wondered why he looked different < 1325774755 301116 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the red and black striped shirt (not cheating here) < 1325774759 424528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe this channel discussed it before < 1325774884 413602 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well its common sense that an executable file is much more dangerous to download than a data file < 1325774913 852503 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325774924 510632 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to learn or figure out that a data file is dangerous because it triggers some other code to be executed, and that other code can be imperfect < 1325774947 475786 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello oklopol < 1325774954 928202 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other code of course being the program actually reading the data < 1325774968 784327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott, for more Maddox, check the comments in /r/math. < 1325774971 679489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hmmmmmmmmmmm: no. < 1325775068 855970 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me, at this moment in my life i am hesitant about whether i could come to like haskell (am i talking about something i don't even know about? yes..) anyway.. < 1325775085 680938 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i think i dislike this flkwfwejfkle itidus21 has been talking about that i know nothing about < 1325775106 813427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is because i've built up an elaborate preconception as to what it is based on no evidence at all, and constantly attack this strawman < 1325775154 171822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is there going to be a need for my passive aggressivity in this discussion? < 1325775194 550372 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i literally sit around at home every day, wondering what new exciting thing my family will say that will make me die a little bit more inside each time < 1325775206 497558 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing else is meaningful about me < 1325775224 60483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you appear to be using the term "discussion". i invite you to consider the term "hopeless" < 1325775234 401182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of the frequent stupid topic change singularity: the Sequel Prequel, part Three | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325775259 192338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ooh, i know all about "hopeless"! < 1325775262 247718 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe its learning experience < 1325775399 871870 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like, my family can't say anything which will reduce down to logic < 1325775413 431435 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its very painful < 1325775478 27150 :nooga!~nooga@c35-253.icpnet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325775507 15041 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like watching someone cycling between the thoughts of "i need to get out of debt" "don't worry i get a big paycheck" "every few weeks i need to borrow money off my mom" "i need to buy absurd novelty items" < 1325775530 448894 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like $90 whiskey bottles" < 1325775766 526411 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"my pay is one day late so i throw a dumbbell in a CRT TV and throw a cordless drill through the plaster wall" < 1325775874 707823 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325775903 615004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1325775918 814643 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i have learned that such things is for better or worse inherent in random pockets of humanity.. < 1325775999 30350 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking in news websites i encounter occasional stories about people dying in trivial arguments < 1325776041 255907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I know what you mean. < 1325776061 481206 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the lesson i try to take from that is to not try to prove some principle to someone.. < 1325776078 787370 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT < 1325776124 632434 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day... i was having some delusion that he was leaving the butter out on the bench on purpose for me to put away.. and as i laid in bed a surge of anger rose in me and i confronted him about it < 1325776137 750727 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he was proud of me for it the next day < 1325776180 754494 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwut < 1325776183 808857 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has told me before he is proud of me if i stand up to him when he needs to be stood up to.. ahh its weird < 1325776194 839675 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :go to school < 1325776205 471270 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. i distort things when i type and think about them < 1325776219 471685 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its important to understand that tidus is the least normal person in his house < 1325776224 310489 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=)) < 1325776235 870519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI COPPRO HOW'S THE WEATHER TODAY < 1325776237 777475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN CANADA < 1325776238 573989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND < 1325776242 941347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTHER PLACES, LET'S TALK EXTENSIVELY ABOUT THE WEATHER < 1325776248 148462 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT < 1325776250 755360 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS GOOD < 1325776251 548265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT... < 1325776252 223446 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELLIOTT < 1325776254 672589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH GOD!!! THAT'S SO COOL < 1325776256 103412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERE IT'S UH < 1325776258 409310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :KIND OF MODERATE!!! < 1325776261 392349 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A BIT < 1325776264 643548 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :COLD THOUGH < 1325776265 51767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT IT COULD ALWAYS CHANGE, THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE WEATHER < 1325776266 322009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALWAYS CHANGING < 1325776271 754853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES HERE TOO < 1325776274 769139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK IT IS: "WINTER" < 1325776278 51825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S FREEZING HERE < 1325776279 518816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOUGH, I MAY BE WRONG < 1325776284 684429 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I LIKE SHORTS < 1325776289 641460 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE COMFORTABLE AND EASY TO WEAR < 1325776299 355292 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VERILY!!!! HOW IS LIFE IN THE COMMONWEALTH < 1325776302 369835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT I'M IN THE COMMONWEALTH TOO < 1325776303 83670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UHHH < 1325776307 373773 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALTHOUGH THE SKY IS STRANGELY CLEAR < 1325776307 848995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW'S LIFE IN THE COMMONWEALTH OUTSIDE THE UK < 1325776313 747247 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I TOOK AN ARROW TO THE KNEE < 1325776316 661325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1325776318 418346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE'RE NO LONGER FRIENDS < 1325776322 336589 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOODBYE < 1325776324 606914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI PHANTOM_HOOVER HOW'S THE WEATHER IN SCOTLAND TODAY < 1325776325 41365 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL HAVE A SHOWER NOW < 1325776332 256315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE ABOVE < 1325776340 628940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IS THE WEATHER IN HEXHAM STILL SCOTLAND < 1325776340 785236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S AN AMAZING WEATHER < 1325776348 148440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GIVE IT A+ STARS OUT OF 100% < 1325776357 782192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES HEXHAM IS CURRENTLY SCOTLAND (THE COUNTRY) < 1325776364 21552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS SUCH ALL ITS ATTRIBUTES ARE SCOTLAND < 1325776374 594837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU GUESSED IT WAS MEANT TO BE A SECRET < 1325776553 551976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEEWIANT FOUND OUT < 1325776666 763446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS WHY FINNS SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED OMNISCIENCE < 1325776673 641446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR OXYGEN < 1325776764 347075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLAME APPLE < 1325776861 344042 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1325776862 466984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR WHAT THO < 1325776879 580741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR GIVING AWAY THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF HEXHAM < 1325777003 726636 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually blame snowstorm99.) < 1325777116 176648 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since this comment will be possibly damaging i will say it as a riddle. what word is 6 letters long and contains the letters 'M', 'A' and 'X' < 1325777158 418890 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxima < 1325777166 852948 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :climax < 1325777177 896024 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1325777184 174698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maxmax. < 1325777185 840895 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric : >:-) < 1325777188 774607 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minmax. < 1325777203 545944 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix < 1325777203 739266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hamhex. < 1325777288 932909 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will list the other 2 now >:-) hexham and maddox < 1325777290 43273 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325777378 53713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also noteable that maddox and math begin with ma~ < 1325777533 656544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo notable < 1325777546 823139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axeman. < 1325777573 120258 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notable for being haunting < 1325777580 224453 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the true secret of hexham < 1325777587 118468 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it shares 3 letters with maddox < 1325777611 380046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ohh, *that* is what the refrance Phantom_Hoover was. < 1325777624 238528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: This worries me because it means a third person lives in Hexham. < 1325777641 149313 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ... don't tell me maddox lives in hexham < 1325777648 650236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/o0bi8/the_weather_for_tuesday_according_to_my_phone/c3dhvx5 STOP MENTIONING HEXHAM IT'S SO WEIRD < 1325777653 687340 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised somebody didn't pick up on that when I first linked it :-P < 1325777680 853613 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ link < 1325777692 69357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I thought it vaguely plausible you'd set up Hexham weather on your phone just for shits and giggles. < 1325777700 371792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=How+many+people+live+in+Hexham%3F < 1325777728 428166 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Us Hexhamites and Helsinkopods should set up our phones to have the other one as an alternate location so e.g. we always know the time in the other place. < 1325777731 522056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, for solidarity. < 1325777752 432332 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many Helsinkians are there in here, actually? < 1325777760 763212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: At least three. < 1325777762 191746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought oko at least lived elsewhere in Finland. < 1325777770 987709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, fizzie, ineiros, Deewiant, atehwa. < 1325777771 146444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live in Espoo, to be all technical about it. < 1325777782 214048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And so does ineiros; don't know about Deewiant, atehwa. < 1325777783 364675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so the esolanger density is significantly lower than that in Hexham? < 1325777790 614525 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That doesn't really "count", it's all Helsinki to me. < 1325777800 362016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really "count" for many people here, too. < 1325777800 837804 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well... Helsinki is rather bigger than Hexham. < 1325777812 439372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko's from Turku unless I misremember. < 1325777814 659441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 60 times bigger. < 1325777819 52174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, trukku. < 1325777821 537713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trurktrtuwu. < 1325777844 60058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :51.7. < 1325777847 320918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28helsinki+population%29%2F%28hexham+population%29 < 1325777862 224233 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Helsinki. < 1325777865 214712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A is really the best thing. < 1325777872 716824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: You capitalist. < 1325777881 604781 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's me. < 1325777914 761394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not convinced Deewiant is a person. < 1325777915 196125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Generally apartment prices in Helsinki are slightly higher... though there's certainly overlap in that cheap bits of Helsinki are a lot cheaper than expensive bits of Espoo.) < 1325777967 779129 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if they intend to connect interpreters to wolframalpha < 1325777970 41914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't believe you guys actually called a place Espoo. < 1325777990 486667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid W|A only knows about median home sale prices in U.S. < 1325777996 134177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's no longer the best thing. < 1325778000 278052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, it's now the worst thing. < 1325778002 183795 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really wonder that < 1325778008 76798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Helsinki University of Technology, in Otaniemi, Espoo" < 1325778011 882869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sic transit gloria mundi. < 1325778020 600774 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Have you considered gently educating your officials as to how to spell Espoo (i.e. not "Helsinki")? < 1325778025 976916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was in Helsinki originally. < 1325778032 574654 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We didn't come up with Espoo, the Swedes did. < 1325778056 748791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's Esbo in Swedish.) < 1325778064 493861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And Helsinki's Helsingfors.) < 1325778103 744934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Two national languages and all that.) < 1325778104 538766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's always the Swedes. < 1325778109 133503 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Espoo seems to be the Kingston upon Thames of Finland < 1325778114 488176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Helsingfors is a pretty good name, I gotta say. < 1325778162 397706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a *too* farfetched idea that some day Helsinki, Espoo, Vantaa and Kauniainen will be merged into a single place, though. Certainly it's been proposed a couple of times. < 1325778169 902653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Kauniainen is completely surrounded by Espoo anyway. < 1325778173 670608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The local taxation rate in Kauniainen is the lowest in Finland (16.5%),[5] which makes the city attractive to the highest earners. This in turn makes the average income generally high, making it possible to keep the taxation rate low without compromising the service to the inhabitants." < 1325778183 648270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet Deewiant secretly lives in Kauninaineianeinawenwenawkejawenkawjnfnsfljsiojuauauaua. < 1325778191 678837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rich Swedish-speaking folks live there. < 1325778197 658634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did I break the vowel harmony?) < 1325778206 425588 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("No, just every other rule of the language.") < 1325778248 186732 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do have any idea when Cock Wood becomes Half Mile Wood < 1325778248 821271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any yöä there, so I think you're good. < 1325778264 287222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yökätä" = "to puke" (informally). < 1325778299 285907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: No, but I suspect it's the basis of approx. 16 thousand trillion billion bad jokes. < 1325778312 518164 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls those place names, though.
< 1325778314 621191 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: To gag, rather. < 1325778329 680317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Gag me with a spoon. < 1325778332 632120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What's you guys'ses word for "yawn"? < 1325778333 306903 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the page itself "Graphics & text hack of Super Mario World. It's a cruel, ugly hack dedicated to the glory of 1996-era Bolivia." http://badderhacksnet.ipage.com/badderhacks/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34:bolivia-96&catid=7:snes&Itemid=1 < 1325778346 481492 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not even informally, methinks. < 1325778365 791261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not even informally" -- Deewiant "methinks" Deewiant < 1325778368 14478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "haukotella" (verb), "haukotus" (noun). < 1325778400 391454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hokay, work -> shops -> home now. -> < 1325778411 384800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: haukotella < 1325778418 977463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hauuuuuuuuuukotella < 1325778423 537640 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also Swallowship Woods and Wagtail Wood < 1325778430 984848 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You want the noun for that < 1325778431 344396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm attempting to disprove my completely ludicrous hypothesis that it only works for English. < 1325778435 600218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: haukotus < 1325778437 703057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hauuuuuukotus < 1325778446 74 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that actually made me yawn. < 1325778456 491827 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The power of Finnish. < 1325778456 671046 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Wooley Wood < 1325778836 908943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Similarly to the University, the "Helsinki airport" is in fact in Vantaa. (It's proper name is in fact "Helsinki-Vantaa airport", code HEL.) < 1325778894 485901 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1325779052 797824 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, hello < 1325779106 66396 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :java is annoying to code in (doing this for university purposes) < 1325779148 268876 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is like a clunkier C# (yes I know java was around before C#). The languages are very similar, but C# feels more streamlined somehow. < 1325779222 902995 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325779843 352964 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: agreed < 1325780996 765372 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src iterate < 1325780996 925020 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate f x = x : iterate f (f x) < 1325781053 393943 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1325781124 961270 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map fst (iterate (uncurry (ap (,) . (+)))) < 1325781125 755721 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[(a, b)]' < 1325781125 914862 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `(b1,... < 1325781147 951451 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map fst (iterate (uncurry (ap (,) . (+)) (1,1))) < 1325781148 745930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a -> a' < 1325781148 904197 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type `(b, b)' < 1325781208 941460 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1325781237 844049 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map fst (iterate (uncurry (ap (,) . (+))) (1,1))) < 1325781238 698199 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `)' < 1325781247 825914 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map fst (iterate (uncurry (ap (,) . (+))) (1,1)) < 1325781249 278971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,1... < 1325781253 649170 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get there eventually < 1325781313 688104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now 251.761905 times better than Taneb.
< 1325781331 210856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :To celebrate, I'm going to sleep in a minute. < 1325781365 600947 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the lowest ranked person on the only coolness rankings I have ever come across < 1325781391 901853 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may live happy in the knowledge that Sgeo would rank lower. < 1325781411 847871 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1325781435 135170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You forgot that person I'm not going to ping. < 1325781435 809624 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just one of the facts of life, Sgeo. < 1325781448 42203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bitty omission. < 1325781459 288775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vrpal? < 1325781474 300445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lmia? < 1325781483 31891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Madoka-Kaname: Congratulations, Phantom_Hoover hates you! < 1325781484 338142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1325781506 943248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if they didn't already know that I'm disappointed in myself. < 1325781712 878827 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1325782528 286301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :goop dnight my friendsnj < 1325782566 688356 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1325782842 152182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1325783487 997907 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What time zone is he pretending to be in? < 1325783613 200830 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nokiaphoneblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/nokia-connocting-poopie.jpg < 1325783691 323321 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1325785787 744325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: Elliott time, I'd think. < 1325786199 982385 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . filter ((/=1) . length . group) . S.toList . S.fromList . replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325786203 215345 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 371280 < 1325786233 91288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . filter ((/=1) . length . group) . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325786235 711093 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6175 < 1325786343 808002 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . filter ((/=1) . length . group) . replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325786346 791434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6175 < 1325786349 937722 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, no. < 1325786363 673889 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . {-filter ((/=1) . length . group) .-} replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325786366 376230 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6188 < 1325786390 661751 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this not yielding correct numbers... < 1325786589 494349 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the history of my ~/tmp directory is intriguing. the most visible thing is how i have named all those "tmp"-ish directories. < 1325786643 198598 :[PiRSq|Finnmark]!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325786693 175458 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the form tmp/YYYYMMDD/ (e.g. 20080801, 20090616, etc.), some of the form _/N/ (ranging from 0 to 5), some of the form old/, old2/, old3/ (i'm glad that i don't have old4/ yet), etc. < 1325786734 903087 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them contain (mutually incompatible) a.out files. < 1325786737 920292 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "ab" < 1325786738 714379 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["ab","ba"] < 1325787017 235531 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325787060 751470 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> msum . map Last $ [Just 1, Just 2, Nothing] < 1325787061 545608 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Control.Monad.MonadPlus Data.Monoid.Last) < 1325787061 743540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from ... < 1325787074 618897 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat . map Last $ [Just 1, Just 2, Nothing] < 1325787076 86852 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Last {getLast = Just 2} < 1325787083 115146 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat . map Last $ [Just 1, Just 2, Nothing, Just 3] < 1325787084 584792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Last {getLast = Just 3} < 1325787086 334596 :[PiRSq|Finnmark]!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION .
< 1325787095 381483 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> mconcat . map First $ [Nothing, Just 1, Just 2, Nothing, Just 3] < 1325787096 810408 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : First {getFirst = Just 1} < 1325787240 895685 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325787241 178543 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1325787287 354633 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm a simple form of subclassing would be to have typeclass synonyms. < 1325787312 655347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say Ring is MGroup and AGroup (multiplicative group and additive group) < 1325787379 795515 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325787498 10175 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-217-73.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325787566 680547 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1325787622 926391 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325788372 195247 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :is elliott here (under some other nick)? < 1325788388 434078 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, ^ < 1325788402 937398 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1325788404 485972 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am elliott < 1325788448 302022 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1325788623 453700 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $i = $blah{lc $nick} += my $n = int(rand(5)); < 1325788626 724384 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something so.... < 1325788631 684882 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :good about this line of code. < 1325788687 614478 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :chaining assignments and += and lexical scope declarations. < 1325788695 366930 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the way imperative programming is meant to be. :D < 1325788782 394040 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $is = (my $i = $blah{lc $nick} += my $n = int(rand(5))) != 1? 's' : ''; < 1325788786 40322 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god what am I doing < 1325788896 140301 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $is = (my $i = $blah{lc (my $nick = $a->{body} || $a->{who})} += my $n = int(rand(5))) != 1? 's' : ''; < 1325788903 647359 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no..... I can't continue with these nested assignments. < 1325789045 255541 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325789289 3370 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a phantomly Haskell error that I cannot work out < 1325789304 984933 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :paste pl0x < 1325789311 695887 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/56121 < 1325789340 46829 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The error comes up when running with the arg "general" < 1325789370 295122 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the error. < 1325789396 162553 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** Exception: Prelude.(!!): index too large < 1325789436 902288 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fromAscList < 1325789437 696455 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `fromAscList' < 1325789444 38453 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t M.fromAscList < 1325789444 831523 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall k a. (Eq k) => [(k, a)] -> M.Map k a < 1325789449 801254 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t M.AscList < 1325789450 442818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1325789453 858478 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t M.fromList < 1325789454 613625 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall k a. (Ord k) => [(k, a)] -> M.Map k a < 1325789501 423307 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find gen_map kind of confusing, as it doesn't have a complete pattern. < 1325789509 288748 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just checks [] and ["general"] < 1325789524 72588 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna add everything else < 1325789528 795939 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later < 1325789554 184008 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, there's going to be similar things to general but military, legal, and domestic < 1325789571 496906 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And political < 1325789591 417973 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh...kay < 1325789675 677697 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well uh... I'm guessing you have a field that isn't 4 elements large? < 1325789687 586501 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all have five. < 1325789693 856283 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a rectangular CSV < 1325789723 311567 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a print . filter ((<5).length) grid in main or something < 1325789727 61097 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1325789735 386847 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :print . filter ((<5).length) $ gris < 1325789738 910336 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grid < 1325789793 669416 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1325789806 787361 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it grabbing a few empty elements or something? < 1325789814 530803 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one that's [[""]] < 1325789820 862786 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I thought that might be the case. < 1325789823 718003 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something similar < 1325789829 968283 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, [""] < 1325789837 314075 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1325789855 367449 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An init should fix this < 1325789967 300582 :_Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-217-73.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1325790093 373923 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: also since you're ask_question is an IO function anyway... you can just use randomIO < 1325790109 351908 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1325790123 80866 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i was laying there thinking and it occured to me that odd numbers are gardens of eden among the numbers for the rule a' = a x 2 < 1325790135 532561 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this is a good thing to happen to me < 1325790140 45435 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1325790189 346925 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :an odd number is defined as an integer n for which there exists an integer k such that n = 2k+1 < 1325790229 2026 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I misunderstand what you mean though < 1325790234 272391 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean there is no odd number a' which satisfies a' = a x 2 < 1325790253 44906 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1325790258 483963 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the definition of an even number < 1325790261 700684 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not even is odd < 1325790291 893338 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you're talking about CA < 1325790300 146357 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :gardens of eden. < 1325790302 102994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1325790304 63607 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. im trying to combine numbers and CA < 1325790335 434775 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes.. < 1325790342 460543 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets say a 1x1 CA with an unbounded natural numbers < 1325790367 896694 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my terminology and notations really sucks :P < 1325790392 726126 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah I got what you're saying. < 1325790395 584994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*2 is a terrible CA rule < 1325790401 343762 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1325790407 814298 :_Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-217-73.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr NICK :Slereah < 1325790428 78292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the collatz rule is far more interesting < 1325790437 70917 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has methuselahs and everything < 1325790502 308738 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not quite familiar with the extent to which i can say things like: a' = a * 2 is a CA and on that basis to say odd numbers are gardens of eden < 1325790506 12926 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're garden of eden states in a 1x1 CA grid where the states are natural numbers, because there's no state that you can revert to from an odd number. < 1325790526 603140 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you're basically describing a recursive equation. < 1325790554 708932 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all shakey ground for me.. the idea makes sense but terminology and notation is not my strong thing :P < 1325790573 421789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot say its a CA in the traditional sense < 1325790586 744625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since traditional CAs have locality < 1325790593 573215 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka a speed of light < 1325790600 162502 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the phrase garden of eden < 1325790600 479978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka bounded spheres of influence < 1325790605 213955 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 1x1 CA might as well be "a variable" < 1325790628 4431 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1325790628 843953 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1325790636 686000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well... a FSA < 1325790646 451912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :traditional CAs have finite state sets < 1325790650 622261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my objection < 1325790656 902694 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... yes. < 1325790666 193945 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a FSA but an ISA (infinite state automaton :P ) < 1325790670 639213 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325790679 653317 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, LBA? < 1325790683 846571 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first i thought, ahh a' = a + 1 would not have any gardens of eden in the sense i am describing < 1325790706 752264 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love misusing terminology < 1325790715 90047 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: pretty sure a LBA has more than one "cell" < 1325790730 290171 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish is a linear bounded automaton < 1325790740 967985 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am almost certainly misusing terminology < 1325790750 328945 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its what i do < 1325790775 456766 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it isn't < 1325790827 555024 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm describing is a finite state automata but with an infinite set of states < 1325790855 396146 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :a LBA consists of a tape. < 1325790869 215635 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say "infinite state automaton" is too general and misleading < 1325790889 500520 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have now mentally redefined LBA's < 1325790892 241900 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1325790934 424827 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t M.find < 1325790935 218490 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1325790939 583897 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Map.find < 1325790939 742865 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes it's possible that giving a FSA an infinite set of states would make it equivalent to some other automaton but I don't really know what that would be. < 1325790940 536042 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1325790967 883897 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A minsky machine? < 1325790999 29091 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure that that is. < 1325791006 415559 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/what/ < 1325791090 374491 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm... minsky machines are turing machines. < 1325791114 725937 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minsky machines with more than one register are equivalent to turing machines. < 1325791120 191885 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is quite a big difference < 1325791174 372993 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :The three counter machine base models have the same computational power since the instructions of one model can be derived from those of another. All are equivalent to the computational power of Turing machines (but only if Gödel numbers are used to encode data in the register or registers; otherwise their power is equivalent to the primitive recursive functions) < 1325792329 884510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waiter, there's a counter in my machine. < 1325792350 346612 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ssh, or everyone will want one! < 1325792466 309657 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :rage against the counter machine < 1325792468 380485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bad) < 1325792641 514652 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :counter against the rage machine < 1325792680 184970 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map unwords . permutations . words $ "rage against the machine" < 1325792681 773435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["rage against the machine","against rage the machine","the against rage ma... < 1325792724 656439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "RATM" < 1325792725 491710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["RATM","ARTM","TARM","ATRM","TRAM","RTAM","MTAR","TMAR","TAMR","MATR","AMT... < 1325792730 856231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRAM. < 1325792747 348582 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the against rage machine < 1325792756 674520 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> permutations "RATCM" < 1325792757 488944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["RATCM","ARTCM","TARCM","ATRCM","TRACM","RTACM","CTARM","TCARM","TACRM","C... < 1325792797 749618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Against the machine rage counter. < 1325792815 673221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's the current value of the machine rage counter? < 1325792815 871101 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is a man to treasure. the thief in the throes of an unraveling alibi. " the massacre of syrs gnelph was not as written a message you got, my brother, and we just keep the safe or tub handy or is the fact that this is apparently a bull penis, and a rather piss-poor excuse. we 8oth of us, the whole plan hinged on that. < 1325792819 960851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the machine counter against rage < 1325792948 715323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily trivia factoid: Chrono Cross has 45 playable characters, each with a unique accent. The common dialogue was not, in fact, manually rewritten for each character, but instead generated by running a generic version through an accent generator based on simple rewrite rules. < 1325794103 6105 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1325794210 627589 :[PiRSq|Finnmark]!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: bye bye FINNMARK puffin < 1325796064 563485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1325796069 91113 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is that actually a factoid? < 1325796105 520528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Official channel of the frequent stupid topic change plurality: the Sequel Prequel, part Three | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1325796178 556329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evning < 1325796365 902430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : since this comment will be possibly damaging i will say it as a riddle. what word is 6 letters long and contains the letters 'M', 'A' and 'X' < 1325796373 414202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"scotland", duh < 1325796387 516564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like people weren't paying attention < 1325796566 437688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: Well... Helsinki is rather bigger than Hexham. <-- are you including the obvious dimensional twistings here? < 1325796821 296631 :qfr!void@unaffiliated/yw QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1325796873 967617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wow, that actually made me yawn. <-- gjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesp < 1325796904 129315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it doesn't work if he's already sleeping. < 1325796977 865566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t build < 1325796978 539905 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `build' < 1325796981 520331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle build < 1325796981 841832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC.Exts build :: (forall b. (a -> b -> b) -> b -> b) -> [a] < 1325796981 998178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Graph.Inductive.Internal.Heap build :: Ord a => [(a, b)] -> Heap a b < 1325796982 155388 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graphics.Rendering.OpenGL.GLU.Mipmapping build1DMipmaps :: TextureTarget -> PixelInternalFormat -> GLsizei -> PixelData a -> IO () < 1325797022 864858 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797211 820418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let build :: (forall b. (a -> b -> b) -> b -> b) -> [a]; build b = b (:) [] in build < 1325797212 614287 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (forall b. (a -> b -> b) -> b -> b) -> [a] < 1325797283 108513 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-78.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797293 176199 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-224-117.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1325797296 814138 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-4-250.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797297 132050 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-4-250.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1325797297 288666 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797304 881353 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1325797363 194094 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325797407 691386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let build :: (forall b. (a -> b -> b) -> b -> b) -> [a]; build b = b (:) []; iterate f x = build (b x) where { b x cons nil = cons x (b (f x) cons nil) } in iterate < 1325797408 487374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (a -> a) -> a -> [a] < 1325797605 161446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797779 235579 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325797818 587424 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1325798031 489726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:59:23: > length . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . {-filter ((/=1) . length . group) .-} replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325798034 767750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:59:26: 6188 < 1325798037 313652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:59:50: why is this not yielding correct numbers... < 1325798045 952857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would rather depend on what you are trying to calculate. < 1325800424 902861 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: number of distinct combinations in a 5-card hand. < 1325800649 993706 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are Smalltalk's Bags structured? < 1325800664 754327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: ic, i cannot see any error either, then < 1325800672 885860 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are they similar to Set and ordered by identity or something? < 1325800833 777664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: as long as you are meant to ignore suits, that is < 1325800879 421839 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes that's why it's different < 1325800894 918755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh XD < 1325800991 601224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> product [52-4 .. 52] `div` product [1..5] -- is this the right answer? < 1325800992 394889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2598960 < 1325801066 454073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you meant to ignore some suit differences but not others. < 1325801096 895751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. ignore except when a flush is involved) < 1325801216 12442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so apparently Romney beat Santorum by 8 votes < 1325801232 482531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i read that in the (norwegian) paper < 1325801237 482496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the US doesn't use the UK's recount mechanism < 1325801287 155660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the UK, votes are counted by hand, sorting them into piles by candidate; if the vote count is close, then they check each of the individual piles again, and if it's particularly close even after that, they keep repeating the process until everyone's happy all the votes are in the right place) < 1325801303 154611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if there's any dispute as to who a vote is for, they make the candidates debate it until they all agree) < 1325801309 26391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i recall it's a caucus, which uses even more unpredictable voting methods, it may even be by showing hands... < 1325801322 669435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1325801339 870565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was done with check marks or by writing names in by hand < 1325801388 311156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iowa uses caucus, that is; the next one (new hampshire) uses more conventional voting) < 1325801515 590489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, leap second announced in June < 1325801594 565638 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1CB12.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325801845 475478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is the fundamental and real concept of roulette? < 1325801852 541627 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1325801872 912865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tests the russian version on spambot. *BLAM*
< 1325801873 548436 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1325801911 526031 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1325801974 947431 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net NICK :Klisz < 1325802056 897458 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1325802094 237347 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no there's no special case for flushes < 1325802100 153264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1325802122 246538 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like writing Comments on a Postcards, because they are published long after I have forgotten them, and I think: "this sounds familiar" < 1325802130 326012 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then oerjan tells me I wrote it < 1325802180 581540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1325802242 457135 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1325802303 632735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1325802418 193296 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-78-146-162-141.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: ask Phantom_Hoover if you're curious < 1325802445 126534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange coincidence: i called the isp on Dec 29 because the connection was flaky. since the day after i did that, i've noticed no problems, so i assumed they had somehow fixed it. although they had said they would send a new router, which arrived today. < 1325802460 110540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just now the connection dropped again. < 1325802479 530902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'll have to actually install it soon :D < 1325802543 807719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm not actually the direct customer, my landlady is, but she knows approx. 0.01 about computers.) < 1325802615 701754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: no there's no special case for flushes <-- you didn't say whether my product quotient gave the right answer, though. < 1325802664 366531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess your version isn't right either with the filter or without? (the latter would correspond to using more than one 52 card deck, i think.) < 1325802787 719654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle [a] -> [[a]] < 1325802787 877809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List inits :: [a] -> [[a]] < 1325802788 35971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List permutations :: [a] -> [[a]] < 1325802788 194771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List subsequences :: [a] -> [[a]] < 1325802834 143703 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmmmm? the filter is used to get rid of the 5-of-a-kind cases which are impossible < 1325802845 929518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: that's what i implied < 1325802855 337458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest corresponds to a 52 card deck. the reason the results are different is because all of the suits are considered the same. < 1325802865 850072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1325802886 556572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _your_ calculation assumes the suits are the same, and you said they were wrong < 1325802892 255941 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1325802899 890094 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1325802900 801096 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wrong < 1325802911 226009 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you care about suits < 1325802912 940107 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not otherwise. < 1325802918 872184 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1325802919 746899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalm
< 1325802977 467485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1325803008 277021 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe your product quotient is the correct answer is distinct combinations are what you're looking for. < 1325803020 627517 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka 52C5 < 1325803022 319384 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1325803025 434428 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1325803026 955701 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not C < 1325803029 14925 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one < 1325803033 20852 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1325803033 498518 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1325803033 974476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1325803034 607761 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1325803051 266788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe it's very hard to help people when they don't make it clear whether you've found the correct answer or not. < 1325803094 994546 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is: < 1325803100 512414 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker_probability < 1325803106 770501 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distinct number < 1325803112 917620 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 7,462 < 1325803118 511815 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm getting 6000-something < 1325803129 202157 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume "distinct" means "ignoring suit" < 1325803251 749903 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . {-filter ((/=1) . length . group) .-} replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325803254 461960 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6188 < 1325803261 915724 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . S.toList . S.fromList . map sort . filter ((/=1) . length . group) . replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325803265 29876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6175 < 1325803284 404090 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length . filter ((/=1) . length . group) . replicateM 5 $ "AKQJT98765432" < 1325803286 149506 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 371280 < 1325803364 456051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: the flush case does not ignore suit < 1325803377 208421 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1325803434 974049 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm... are you sure < 1325803448 669029 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would seem that if that were the case then the "distinct" and "frequency" columns would be the same for flush. < 1325803462 867962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait does it < 1325803471 952604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1277*4 < 1325803472 667776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5108 < 1325803481 702003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok you're right < 1325803504 769095 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I... I really don't know what's wrong. < 1325803515 774214 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is it incredibly important either. but, it would be nice to know. < 1325803556 80804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 13*12*11/2 < 1325803556 878774 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 858.0 < 1325803586 550033 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-196.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325803587 905740 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-231-78.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325803591 792638 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4*4*13*12*11/2 < 1325803592 429301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13728.0 < 1325803597 186872 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no < 1325803610 442121 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4*13*12*11/2 < 1325803611 236130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3432.0 < 1325803616 388467 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 5 "ABC" < 1325803617 180428 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["AAAAA","AAAAB","AAAAC","AAABA","AAABB","AAABC","AAACA","AAACB","AAACC","A... < 1325803618 451806 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325803626 602787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sum [1,9,156,156,1277,10,858,858,2860,1277] < 1325803627 435214 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7462 < 1325803664 391519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sequence ["abc", "abc", "abc", "abc", "abc"] -- Sgeo < 1325803665 208158 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["aaaaa","aaaab","aaaac","aaaba","aaabb","aaabc","aaaca","aaacb","aaacc","a... < 1325803670 412055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm wait < 1325803698 117576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7462-1277 < 1325803698 793449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6185 < 1325803712 46548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1325803742 45847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because the flushes count approximately double < 1325803780 986683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most combinations that can give a flush can also give something else if the suits _don't_ match < 1325803792 759129 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn58-57.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1325803795 856019 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes. < 1325803823 278676 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1325803884 318174 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325803888 720530 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so suit is still important when calculating distinct possibilities < 1325803900 288253 :MSleep!~fyrc@or-67-238-19-212.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1325804002 884286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7462-(1277+10+1) < 1325804003 518927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6174 < 1325804007 607313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1325804015 650982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 7462-(1277+9+1) < 1325804016 444502 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6175 < 1325804048 613164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtracting all the flush variations gives your number < 1325804083 446784 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my calculation is basically counting the distinct combinations of a sequence of card ranks from a deck. < 1325804096 53193 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1325804098 117034 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :worded better < 1325804110 905023 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the distinct number of poker hands, ignoring suit. < 1325804153 892765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1325804200 953849 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I like you've got a 50/50 chance of just getting a really shitty hand < 1325804212 753485 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :50% of just a high card. < 1325804222 912135 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming that the deck is full even. < 1325804254 947439 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the probabilities of everything else drop hugely < 1325804308 572343 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why I'm bad at poker < 1325804310 714150 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lucky enough. < 1325804381 863224 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'd be better at lowball poker. < 1325804390 960595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear luck has almost nothing to do with it. < 1325804395 956458 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so have I. < 1325804420 828274 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, making money with poker requires skill < 1325804422 737957 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting good hands < 1325804424 360678 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires luck. < 1325804498 807503 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-128-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1325804526 480482 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1325804629 191285 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think lowball rules severely fucks up the game/ < 1325804654 354756 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that betting is essentially much riskier. < 1325804959 186646 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh wait... < 1325804961 727773 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wheel or bicycle is the poker hand 5-4-3-2-A, regardless of suit, which is a five-high straight, the lowest-ranking of the straights. < 1325804964 780377 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :In ace-to-five low poker, where aces are allowed to play as low and straights and flushes do not count against a hand's "low" status, this is the best possible hand. < 1325804973 549396 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's lame. straights and flushes should count against your hand's lowness < 1325805002 490519 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should calculate the priority of your hand as normal, and then invert the ordering. < 1325805075 65706 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deuce-to-seven low is often called Kansas City lowball (the no-limit single-draw variation) or just "low poker". It is almost the direct opposite of standard poker: high hand loses. It is not as commonly used as the ace-to-five low method. < 1325805098 547246 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then the best hand would be 7-5-4-3-2 < 1325805156 651471 :DCliche!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1325805167 866216 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would otherwise be the worst possible hand in the game. < 1325805375 179233 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus the deuce-to-seven low hands sound cooler. "Seven perfect", "the nuts", "number one", "eight perfect", "rough eighty-six", "eighty-seven smooth", "average eight", "rough eighty-seven", "nine perfect" < 1325805379 935725 :Klisz!~Klisz@c-67-176-12-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1325805706 978027 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm oh ace-to-six low is similar to deuce-to-seven except that aces are considered low. < 1325806953 657101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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