< 1329524049 109557 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329524063 94986 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite ironic < 1329524150 203171 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's running really slow < 1329524589 189060 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it appears to be a fictional game.. which means it's whatever you imagine it to be < 1329524590 199901 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329524929 187506 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so im wrong and thats not what fictional game means. < 1329525045 260600 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait what? < 1329525070 387820 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.. there is no xcbzone.. its just a fictional entity < 1329526586 154194 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1329528032 317644 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329528140 366647 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329528233 589908 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-041-051.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1329528711 734324 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329529211 677070 :jbander!~jbander@69-176-229-62.static.izoom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329529272 268872 :jbander!~jbander@69-176-229-62.static.izoom.net PART :#esoteric < 1329530054 268164 :myndzi!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329530187 661061 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329530289 454760 :zbrown_!~zbrown@rufius.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329530348 353298 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329530539 111959 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329530590 486757 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329530590 673458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329530590 860252 :zbrown!~zbrown@unaffiliated/zbrown QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329530590 860423 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329530965 43800 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1329531040 532923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm < 1329531057 936786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1329531058 247128 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1329531085 544184 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@king < 1329531085 740929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: kind ping < 1329531090 191260 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@queen < 1329531090 530010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1329531101 138935 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :?thank you < 1329531101 487680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: thank you thanks < 1329531380 6216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: STOP SLEEPIN' < 1329531449 733711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You're awake, right? < 1329531505 439048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: here < 1329531602 270294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1329532309 208849 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329534242 611504 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329534384 971331 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329534445 644217 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1329534639 147865 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329534685 439309 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329534862 986901 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329535492 481821 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1329535825 401835 :PiRSquared!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329535907 648192 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1329536469 406472 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329536571 705011 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329537202 926110 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329537262 438257 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329537288 119234 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329537389 165343 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329537389 554659 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329537389 741303 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329540181 974344 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329540193 22620 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329540202 962475 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1329540229 522217 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329540568 49354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329540687 209320 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329540702 357077 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1329542677 318338 :PiRSquared!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :restarting-compu < 1329542783 287943 :restarting-compu!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329542929 136619 :PiRSquared!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329544196 304722 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-15.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329544255 103322 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-117-217.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1329544930 93141 :PiRSquared!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :|area| < 1329545339 106411 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329545388 627603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome maki < 1329545391 683703 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :maki: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1329545471 170502 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1329545475 844323 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you bots? < 1329545500 775933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1329545508 486664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well HackEgo is < 1329545521 998417 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1329545547 358135 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to learn brainfuck < 1329545565 823100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1329545603 55752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this place is a bit quiet right now i'm afraid < 1329545610 27077 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe yes, their channel says "go to esoteric", so here I am :) < 1329545612 694415 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is reading the BOFH archives < 1329545620 178329 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is they? < 1329545627 614153 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a brainfuck channel? < 1329545646 738650 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1329545664 280498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor's i think < 1329545685 341862 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't usually this quiet here, btw. Although elliott left, so it's quieted down, but he's visiting. Unless he's staying. < 1329545765 175490 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this channel exactly about? < 1329545797 672533 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In theory, about esoteric programming languages, which includes brainfuck < 1329545800 321717 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esotercic programming languages < 1329545812 141172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the wiki for a definition < 1329545816 565396 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In practice, we talk about whatever. Often programming or computer science or math related. < 1329545823 588846 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not always < 1329545826 297912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hackego linked it) < 1329545925 635923 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually want to make an interpreter of i < 1329545927 507507 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1329545949 200512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fairly easy in most languages < 1329545963 204032 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :write it in brainfuck < 1329545972 695471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :been done < 1329545974 856111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :many times < 1329545986 433945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbfi is like 4 lines iirc < 1329545996 647774 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :dbfi? < 1329546066 252201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :daniel cristofani's brainfuck interp in brainfuck < 1329546074 475424 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1329546279 231883 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc? < 1329546290 939037 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i recall correctly < 1329546291 164204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i recall correctly < 1329546308 315485 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 lines elliott < 1329546311 56997 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1329546314 313350 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.5ish < 1329546324 469203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a line < 1329546337 668841 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 chars? < 1329546371 488862 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :5.5* actually < 1329546516 309866 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329546610 626866 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329547760 275622 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brainfuck interpreter in brainfuck? < 1329547795 993660 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it happens < 1329547831 29147 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let that be my project < 1329547851 515649 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, got to go. Hope to be around < 1329547893 883152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1329547935 536987 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1329548181 140789 :maki!ba1cb7c1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.183.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1329549424 793528 :|area|!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :[-away-] < 1329550185 312078 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-143-4.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329550279 434395 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-153-15.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329552236 688725 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK................................................................................................................................? < 1329552329 564489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1329552342 882115 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ < 1329552869 370644 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking of the text adventure game system in Haskell. < 1329552932 526434 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The container currently [ObjID] but maybe I should include the quantity, so that you can have parts of an object in different places such as money and so on. Or maybe do it something differently? I am not exactly sure < 1329553825 667573 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there is a better way... for most things... I don't know... < 1329553826 738683 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1329553831 976841 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quit: hello < 1329553865 841478 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: I don't have color of keys < 1329553954 949443 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329555136 735881 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1329555469 730540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329555732 859924 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-143-4.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329555815 441634 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-134-196.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329556706 521948 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329556761 201690 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1329556823 463117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1329557285 514234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you see THE WIKI, < 1329557294 850213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nay, I did not. < 1329557372 46366 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which wiki would this be? < 1329557380 419047 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The read only, which indeed I did see? < 1329557383 121114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Main_Page < 1329557387 534593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that. < 1329557400 621363 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the new one, hosted by thee? < 1329557498 349381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that one hasn't apparated yet. < 1329557562 476317 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may yet change the specifications of Luigi < 1329557577 259872 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The alphabet is unnecessary < 1329557639 278240 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I would like to add context-sensitivity and make ambiguity an error < 1329557728 487950 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1329557735 522069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers. < 1329558458 174017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noticed that. "Many of the things linked here are likely to be out of date and under-maintained, even abandoned." (Haven't looked closer.) < 1329558505 35832 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1329558539 27203 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329558644 582310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329559280 722282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1329559302 366506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: YOU DIDN'T BELIEEEVE ME < 1329559321 45995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: & yet also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec, plus: "mwlib PediaPress.com Python Markup and other parse tree, HTML, PDF, XML, OpenDocument Part of cooperation between Wikimedia Foundation and PediaPress BSD" < 1329559342 469434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also "mediawiki-parser Peter Potrowl < 1329559342 656238 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erik Rose Python Markup XHTML, raw text, AST GSoC-2011 project; the use of a PEG parser makes it easy to improve < 1329559342 656444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parser functions are not supported yet.") < 1329559353 882265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would wager that mwlib thing works properly if the Foundation were involved and PediaPress use it. < 1329559356 484427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sorry, it wasn't you, it was just that the event itself violated what i believed to be fundamental laws of the universe < 1329559439 596425 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-134-196.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329559446 131006 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329559461 49892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What event would that be? < 1329559487 499102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the event of the esolang wiki getting decent administration and upgrading < 1329559515 197346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm even going to finally make you an admin!!!!!!! < 1329559593 149675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Don't worry, I'm kidding. < 1329559597 69012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It'll be much more effective as a threat. < 1329559607 727771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1329559645 989817 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti, sorry for failing to notify you of the Flash. < 1329559655 61158 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a flash, and just now an update after it < 1329559786 931636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Anyway, do you realise what this *means*? < 1329559809 195002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can no longer just point Timwi at Graue. :( < 1329559823 19450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm diplomatic now. I'm not allowed to say things like that. < 1329559868 378366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1329559895 899031 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Timwi? < 1329559914 707394 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that some person on the wiki who's not good at esolang making? < 1329559932 912184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're excellent at esolang making. < 1329559956 837212 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so the person I keep mixing up with someone who's not good at esolang making < 1329559958 593161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also excellent at persistently requesting how to contact Graue to become an administrator. < 1329559959 840593 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1329559961 877539 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1329560000 1188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which has lead to some awkward hours in this channel. < 1329560017 281157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He also thinks we should move the wiki to somewhere with an admin that responds to requests like that. < 1329560023 407996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So............ yeah.............................................. < 1329560045 32058 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329560068 335654 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he think it should be a positive response? < 1329560090 445294 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does he think it's ok if the admin gives a negative response, as long as it's a response? < 1329560100 577011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :diplomacy crash course coming up < 1329560117 779853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I have no idea, but he's persistent. < 1329560118 392030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1329560128 163965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for you < 1329560140 77713 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, you need seven players. < 1329560170 756615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's quite bestest how MW can parse "''The '''quick'' brown''' fox". < 1329560198 630633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus also "'''''abc def'' quux'''", one presumes. < 1329560220 620148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be great if "''''abc def''' quux''" caused the interpretation of the first quote-sequence to change to avoid rebalancing. < 1329560445 322671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc def quux < 1329560488 770969 :H3LLB0Y!~Guy@49-50-247-219.a.hd.net.nz PART :#esoteric < 1329560603 613445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oerjan: Can you wake Alan Dipert up? < 1329560699 956493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, < 1329560700 734984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1329560724 502543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is alan dipert again < 1329560778 708297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not sle*reah or seb*bu < 1329560841 895339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, the owner of esolangs.org? < 1329560869 288642 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some kinda blogger, I see. < 1329560953 892085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1329561008 368561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he wakes up if you say his name three times in front of a mirror. But not sure. < 1329561130 35865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph i was going to make a joke on having to pronounce it perfectly, but that is ruined by the fact he seems to be american, not french < 1329561329 788360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might sort of explain why he's asleep < 1329561529 397351 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net QUIT :Quit: brb < 1329561548 81453 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329561621 697245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate America. :( < 1329561624 140744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cries < 1329561649 8619 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the no-fly list. < 1329561653 24685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :al qaeda is thataway < 1329561851 79971 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm afraid that we'll have to extradite you to somewhere simultaneously inside and outside of US jurisdiction. < 1329561911 858686 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum jurisdiction < 1329561961 176547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a small cell in CERN, just wedged between the french and swiss borders < 1329561971 902322 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: No, it's merely defined to be whichever is most convenient for the current purpose. < 1329562546 264158 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's because I've heard from elsewhere that CL's community can be a bit harsh that's making me think it, but I think #lisp is acting quite sarcastic to me < 1329562589 45194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, #lisp is Smug Lisp Weeniedom personified. < 1329562732 563889 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329562766 989856 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I would like to warn you that I am about to spam. < 1329562773 661608 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329562785 831709 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if #lisp is representative of "the Lisp community" or if that's even a thing < 1329562804 941162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://viagra.cialis/ < 1329562809 167819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TREMBLE IN FEAR. < 1329562816 593082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, someone joined. Hello tzxn3. < 1329562825 962036 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1329562828 715458 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1329562838 363574 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1329562849 890330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1329562911 100524 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think #haskell is particularly representative of "the Haskell community" < 1329562912 330751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a valid url, is it? < 1329562922 733494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is if you have $100k or so. < 1329562936 556744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything always comes back round to #haskell with kmc. < 1329562936 760113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1329562944 362407 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1329562954 172399 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a huge leap from #lisp though < 1329562967 496576 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have no experience with #lisp < 1329563002 638626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long does it take to get to America? < 1329563012 586641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | The #haskell diaspora | Resistance is sexyliccipie, thus voltage is kinsley times currant. | Electric bonobos, all the rage. < 1329563318 779525 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Define a location in "America", it varies. < 1329563361 421299 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have 8 hour plane trips without leaving the country, IIRC. < 1329563367 869411 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the continet? < 1329563370 196571 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continent. < 1329563371 573945 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1329563399 944246 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicontinental mess < 1329563478 241706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Wherever Alan Dipert is. < 1329563610 111803 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1329563626 690536 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my second laptop is on its last legs < 1329563649 901135 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must have been all the raving. < 1329563657 361528 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have a tower of broken laptops < 1329563744 77910 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Googling suggests he's in North California. < 1329563753 234952 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1329563755 423351 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :North Carolina. < 1329563762 736218 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roughly an 8 hour flight. < 1329563781 521571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't there any supersonic planes to North Carolina? < 1329563795 479246 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There aren't any supersonic planes in non-military use. < 1329563797 841667 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to wait ~10 hours, but waiting ~8 hours is almost as bad. :( < 1329563799 108755 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah, they stopped those once the pilots started all getting cancer < 1329563808 368960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Okay, so how do I get on a military use plane? < 1329563816 576904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is results-oriented. < 1329563822 63847 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take over the UK. < 1329563828 839986 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find an airbase and ask nicely? < 1329563840 983860 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suggest finding a scam in UK laws. There's bound to be several) < 1329563855 644256 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :UK laws are tricky. < 1329563862 672168 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half of them don't really exist < 1329563897 938440 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A significant fraction exist only in theory, but have long since gone the way of the Library of Alexandria. < 1329563937 525581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is the point where you realize alan dipert is on a weekend trip to an isolated cottage in the appalachians < 1329563955 238296 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, nuke the Appalachians. World'll be better for it. < 1329564301 297723 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear. < 1329564389 168374 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still compulsively checking the wiki for updates < 1329564437 873711 :yiyus!1242712427@server1.bouncer4you.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1329564443 834771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost did that once, but i managed to reach the abort button before it loaded < 1329564469 628876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to F5 to see if it's been migrated yet, you'll want to load http://esolangs.org/. < 1329564479 54573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric.voxelperfect.net might still point to the old wiki for up to a day. < 1329564514 95125 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will esolangs.org automatically be the wiki, or will it give the three options? < 1329564528 52909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are three options? < 1329564538 380694 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiki, File archive, and forum < 1329564551 658607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The forum is going the way of the dodo. < 1329564562 650880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs.org will redirect to the wiki; I'll stick a link to the file archive somewhere on the wiki. < 1329564591 563170 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already is one, I believe < 1329564612 551388 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's going to be a brand new wiki? < 1329564635 486941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1329564645 411955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there's no readily-accessible link. < 1329564648 165807 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Esolang:The_Esoteric_File_Archive < 1329564654 923048 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 clicks from main page < 1329564739 477756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the community portal is good enough. < 1329564753 656202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little annoying if old links stop working, isn't it < 1329564772 295148 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329564803 749460 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329564829 866512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have no idea what conclusion you've jumped to. < 1329564832 291101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i hope you don't make them do that < 1329564869 874890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you also hope I don't kill a dozen kittens. I'm not sure why you would think links would break... < 1329564887 144844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: to things in the file archive, i mean < 1329564897 176065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graue will continue to host the file archive. < 1329564918 117443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can set up a redirect from /files/* to the appropriate server. Though not today. < 1329564927 449777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i was hoping < 1329564944 677429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I very much doubt there are many links to it, though. < 1329564956 682513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, perhaps someone will find this useful, some day: http://sprunge.us/hgaT < 1329564981 681204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for example the version of the underload spec on the archive is the official one, i think it has been linked from blogs < 1329565031 125842 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I count 29 esolangs at least where the article links tot he file archive < 1329565043 760544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Underload]] links to esoteric.voxelperfect.net. < 1329565055 582471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Special:Search?search=esolangs.org%2Ffiles&go=Go < 1329565060 199425 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT nothing links to esolangs.org/files. < 1329565068 408722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny < 1329565075 529688 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-128-63.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1329565082 397944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Gregor_Richards does. < 1329565083 999339 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329565099 499255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://esolangs.org/forum/kareha.pl/1131382031/ (but this is irrelevant), http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:Aura < 1329565110 511008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, there's quite a few < 1329565113 425483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I cba to set up a redirect today < 1329565138 275266 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-124-151.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329565152 18257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hey, can I spam some more? < 1329565166 787476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1329565179 233476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... that wasn't really so much a request as a fair warning. < 1329565186 408899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It took me like 5 minutes to prepare this spamart. < 1329565188 671005 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1329565188 712951 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565192 777790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1329565206 614559 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have no heart. < 1329565214 626874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only 63 lines. < 1329565217 100216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your words hurt < 1329565221 59506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like two minutes at the worst. < 1329565259 682347 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329565269 460103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey if it's not worth getting banned for, it cannot be that great. < 1329565272 42731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok. < 1329565277 927539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1329565277 941124 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565300 123457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1329565315 717771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOP < 1329565315 903806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTO < 1329565315 904103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : PEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOT < 1329565315 904219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISO < 1329565315 904333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : TOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEIS < 1329565316 729512 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEI < 1329565318 732291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : SOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHE < 1329565320 733474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTH < 1329565322 763598 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOT < 1329565324 731700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : HEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTO < 1329565326 769234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : THEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINT < 1329565328 742979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDIN < 1329565330 779124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : TOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDI < 1329565332 742507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : NTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBED < 1329565334 780785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : INTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBE < 1329565336 748110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : DINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORB < 1329565338 777638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSOR < 1329565340 797028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSO < 1329565342 757191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : RBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABS < 1329565344 793232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEAB < 1329565346 775349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : SORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEA < 1329565348 766578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBE < 1329565350 770066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLB < 1329565352 725548 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILL < 1329565354 774487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWIL < 1329565356 777454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : LBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWI < 1329565358 780824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : LLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUW < 1329565360 791388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOU < 1329565362 816329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : WILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYO < 1329565364 818398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : UWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEY < 1329565366 803460 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPE < 1329565368 796611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : YOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOP < 1329565370 824230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTO < 1329565372 800858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : PEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOT < 1329565374 824898 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISO < 1329565376 824881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : TOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEIS < 1329565378 841546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEI < 1329565380 809985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : SOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHE < 1329565382 848005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTH < 1329565384 860404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOT < 1329565386 865194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : HEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTO < 1329565388 821400 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : THEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDINT < 1329565390 860509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDIN < 1329565392 827855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : TOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBEDI < 1329565394 830465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : NTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBED < 1329565396 833622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : INTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORBE < 1329565398 842766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : DINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSORB < 1329565400 839044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSOR < 1329565402 841619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABSO < 1329565404 846170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : RBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEABS < 1329565406 847853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEAB < 1329565408 860624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : SORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBEA < 1329565410 869772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLBE < 1329565412 855504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILLB < 1329565414 858252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : EABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWILL < 1329565416 861259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : BEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWIL < 1329565418 868371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : LBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUWI < 1329565420 866675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : LLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOUW < 1329565422 954176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYOU < 1329565424 871699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : WILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEYO < 1329565426 896374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : UWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPEY < 1329565428 158101 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ < 1329565428 910031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : OUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOPE < 1329565430 895434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUWILLBEABSORBEDINTOTHEISOTOP < 1329565432 881593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visualise in monospaced font for best spam-art-o-experience. < 1329565439 98843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now ban shachaf. < 1329565449 119229 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1329565449 135361 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565478 42977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric shachaf :Don't sabotage or wonderful spam! < 1329565484 450107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1329565484 472614 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565488 500810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*our < 1329565489 253126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree; one should never sabotage *or* wonderful spam. < 1329565490 568058 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-124-151.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1329565502 473862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, look at those *patterns*, man. < 1329565507 277009 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The top half almost looks 3D. < 1329565516 232324 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329565526 543128 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You need to learn the difference between "kick" and "ban", < 1329565537 192213 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best part???? You can read the bottom-left up and it's THE SAME SENTENCE. < 1329565548 538174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i just thought you deserved a first time warning, is all. < 1329565582 511851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Same for the bottom-right up.) < 1329565586 75474 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :A first-time warning is a ban without a kick. < 1329565592 388194 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a kick without a ban. < 1329565599 598812 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's right. < 1329565605 395764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do him justice and ban him without a kick. < 1329565610 668208 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He deserves a proper first-time warning. < 1329565610 987618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1329565614 569228 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1329565614 590764 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565621 814440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*shachaf@*.members.linode.com > 1329565621 837154 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565624 8772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1329565626 186603 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent. < 1329565628 97345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1329565628 120167 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565630 890016 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Think about what you've done. < 1329565677 244447 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to find the worst non-symbol font for reading IRC in < 1329565679 140356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So do I get this much leeway every time I break one of the laws of the universe? < 1329565686 162480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Zapfino. < 1329565688 39131 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, the worst is Vladimir Script < 1329565691 733607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe. but only then. < 1329565712 97511 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-176.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1329565712 999523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Have I mentioned I plan to CONTINUALLY IMPROVE Esolang??? < 1329565725 289140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR EXAMPLE < 1329565726 350013 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1329565726 361628 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565728 642677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the language list? < 1329565734 997443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*shachaf@*.members.linode.com > 1329565735 19098 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565737 372648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's going to become an automatically-generated table from the category, man. < 1329565743 720422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll be able to SORT by COMPUTATIONAL CLASS. < 1329565747 397667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems shachaf may not have thought things through properly. < 1329565752 323579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1329565752 340116 NAMES :#esoteric < 1329565783 205883 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-198-167.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329565787 283570 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parry Hotter is a pretty weird font for reading IRC in < 1329565798 883039 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure where I got all these fonts < 1329565804 32211 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hotter than whom? < 1329565839 532444 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question < 1329565889 446262 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh crikey. elliott, look outside at the weather < 1329565923 963241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as hexham takes control of our wiki, it is swept away by a tsunami. how sad. < 1329565937 2974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: It's quite weather, yes. < 1329566143 625065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you feel absorbed, yet? < 1329566274 40001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i am still stuck in the matrix of solidity. < 1329566979 704621 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is turning into a sarcastic person. < 1329566989 48029 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-stm/doc/tutorial.html < 1329566989 276858 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : What a helpful tutorial. < 1329567025 49995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thrilling. < 1329567052 41326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are you going through all the languages you spent approx. 3 seconds with again in reverse chronological order? < 1329567125 360166 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't entirely aware of me going through these in any particular order relevant to my last language hunt < 1329567331 864930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you *believe* Linode gave me a month and a half for the cost of half a month?! < 1329567377 357673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there must be a word for that sort of thing in the illicit drug business. < 1329567443 858727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the word is: BARGAIN. < 1329567447 141316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something tells me square root of minus garfield is having technical problems. < 1329567461 799032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wfm < 1329567480 510577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yesterday. < 1329567502 29339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION managed to confuse himself a bit there. < 1329567515 520386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very hard thing to do. < 1329567537 170679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : YBEING MATRIX < 1329567537 358489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : O L R O < 1329567537 358700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : J O U F ! < 1329567537 358807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : N C O S Y < 1329567537 358955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :E KEDINY OLIDIT < 1329567595 366920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1329567612 319385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering if you had a 5 line paste limit < 1329567624 827887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, did I miss something? < 1329567666 504442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but you didn't maximize height < 1329567681 344988 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In certain moments of boredness i’ve done synchronized screenfuls of sine wavey text as alternating lines with a friend on IRC. :-P < 1329567681 588787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMETIMES spamart can come in horizontal forms too, you know??? < 1329567688 609638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! < 1329567714 960255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: so are you familiar with the fine art of oko, then < 1329567715 983797 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromList "hello" <| 'a' <| 'b' < 1329567716 246904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I dearly hope to never discover the level of boredom required to think that's fun. < 1329567716 912726 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `<|'Not in scope: `<|' < 1329567728 272092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1329567729 780699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1329567730 707845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1329567731 716501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1329567733 196165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokoko < 1329567734 755137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1329567736 597995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1329567738 593081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Sequence.fromList "hello" Data.Sequence.<| 'a' Data.Sequence.<| 'b' < 1329567739 427072 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `Data.Sequence.fromList'Not in scope: `Data.Sequence.<|'Not i... < 1329567739 613761 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1329567743 333026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :( < 1329567754 679 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS IMPORTANT < 1329567762 466963 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Seq.fromList < 1329567762 851026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a part of the okoer's burden to be interrupted < 1329567763 464105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Overlapping instances for GHC.Show.Show < 1329567763 692995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ([a] -... < 1329567796 889095 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Seq.fromList "hello" Seq.<| 'a' Seq.<| 'b' < 1329567797 680418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Sequence.Seq GHC.Types.Char' < 1329567797 928475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : aga... < 1329567812 499745 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (Seq.fromList "hello" Seq.<| 'a') Seq.<| 'b' < 1329567813 480339 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `Data.Sequence.Seq < 1329567813 703043 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1329567839 587858 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (Seq.fromList "hello" Seq.|> 'a') Seq.|> 'b' < 1329567840 369841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot doesn't suffer from overmuch discoverability in its module import choices < 1329567840 557766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromList "helloab" < 1329567850 196485 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Seq.fromList "hello" Seq.|> 'a' Seq.|> 'b' < 1329567851 88173 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : fromList "helloab" < 1329567853 806477 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1329567859 940635 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, lambdabot < 1329567865 527097 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thambdabot < 1329567920 971834 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fold < 1329567921 860769 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `fold' < 1329567927 339299 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Foldable.fold < 1329567928 188250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find qualified module. < 1329567930 477203 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion++ < 1329567938 255097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your Finnishness is offset by your Look Around You references. < 1329567941 547445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Data.Foldable.fold < 1329567942 437802 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (t :: * -> *) m. (Data.Foldable.Foldable t, Monoid m) => t m -> m < 1329567970 591894 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Foldable.fold (Seq.fromList "hello") :: String < 1329567971 476755 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `GHC.Base.String' < 1329567971 787722 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred typ... < 1329567978 894060 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1329567980 482599 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1329567989 249079 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's ruined everything < 1329567990 429212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Char is not Monoid < 1329567996 756585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what semantics do you want? < 1329568008 477949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are you looking for < 1329568011 654004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Data.Foldable.foldr < 1329568012 451089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead? < 1329568012 637963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b (t :: * -> *). (Data.Foldable.Foldable t) => (a -> b -> b) -> b -> t a -> b < 1329568018 708391 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Foldable.foldMap pure (Seq.fromList "hello") :: String < 1329568019 642178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hello" < 1329568025 123070 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesssss < 1329568057 293446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Foldable.toList (Seq.fromList "hello") < 1329568058 132427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hello" < 1329568099 749698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why Traversable requires Foldable. < 1329568100 977431 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ala' Sum Data.Foldable.foldMap ord (Seq.fromList "hello") < 1329568101 916400 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 532 < 1329568107 640122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you implement Foldable with Traversable? < 1329568113 607461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think you can. < 1329568133 268471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fmap (const ()) . Data.Traversable.traverse tell < 1329568134 224333 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) a (t :: * -> *). (Applicative f, MonadWriter a f, Data.Traversable.Traversable t) => t a -> f () < 1329568142 419416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t Data.Traversable.foldMapDefault < 1329568142 975558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t execWriter . Data.Traversable.traverse tell < 1329568143 318973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a m (t :: * -> *). (Data.Traversable.Traversable t, Monoid m) => (a -> m) -> t a -> m < 1329568143 921771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall w (t :: * -> *). (Monoid w, Data.Traversable.Traversable t) => t w -> w < 1329568145 612167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t execWriter . Data.Traversable.traverse tell < 1329568146 421054 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall w (t :: * -> *). (Monoid w, Data.Traversable.Traversable t) => t w -> w < 1329568150 326243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1329568166 527964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the effect order < 1329568167 601640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not to mention that it's actually a subclass < 1329568180 746850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder why Traversable requires Foldable. < 1329568183 214257 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-198-167.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329568185 696727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any Foldables that aren't Traversable? < 1329568189 938785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like Foldable. < 1329568190 635522 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-208-102.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329568192 344528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just toList. < 1329568205 50230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although fold is very nice, I have to admit. < 1329568207 451765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm a monoid fanboy.) < 1329568248 135550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely possible to make a tree instance which appends recursively < 1329568255 201917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mappends < 1329568279 633670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Right. < 1329568282 767296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be more efficient than using toList < 1329568283 43206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's why I'm a monoid fanboy. < 1329568296 384057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Did you know that foldMap is MapReduce? < 1329568312 833970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are, like, inherently parallel. < 1329568395 65064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think oerjan thinks I'm weird. < 1329568396 881886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's why i mentioned that tree thing < 1329568409 281756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe he thinks I'm a genius. < 1329568416 401606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's pretty obvious. < 1329568418 766150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's still cool. < 1329568420 575040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on alternate days. < 1329568430 378468 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not both at the same time? < 1329568442 799452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think databases are MapReducey monoids. < 1329568443 13229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: maybe in sort of fizzbuzz fashion? < 1329568462 753582 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, there are databases that don't synchronise all the time with all the DB servers, they just let stuff go through and handle conflicts later. < 1329568467 935482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if conflict resolution is mappend? < 1329568479 509179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You send diffs to the database; mempty is the null diff. < 1329568493 806528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it mappends the diffs when two servers submit differing diffs, or something. < 1329568504 183734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, whoa. < 1329568548 278412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unwords [case gcd n 6 of 1 -> "er..."; 2 -> "weird"; 3 -> "genius"; 6 -> "weird genius" | n <- [1..]] < 1329568549 195636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "er... weird genius weird er... weird genius er... weird genius weird er...... < 1329568574 312799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was definitely either weird or genius. < 1329568582 673431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, the database thing? < 1329568595 983761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that string < 1329568597 211456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was definitely genius. That's what @'s distributed databases look like. Probably. < 1329568598 177463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1329568608 267057 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know I'm not working on @? < 1329568613 789970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH NO < 1329568622 739225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sense sarcasm. < 1329568635 375541 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WHO IS < 1329568638 87594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if I'm the wiki admin, I get to be an op, right? < 1329568643 319880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is strong with the force, that guy < 1329568648 859531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only logical. < 1329568660 160776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :graue was never an op. < 1329568667 383606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Graue was scary. < 1329568672 113130 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fluffy. < 1329568685 557756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't know that what Graue did could technically be called "administrating". < 1329568704 654379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like giving birth and going into a coma for the next seven years is "parenting" :D < 1329568731 378559 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-156-126.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329568776 324375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he may have been more active before you arrived < 1329568787 178580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you spiked his drink, didn't you. < 1329568790 87043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has read older pages of the wiki, y'know. < 1329568799 562169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he was active past 2007. < 1329568805 756933 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's when he upgraded the wiki and was messing with spam protection. < 1329568813 164732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which coincidentally is when you arrived. < 1329568816 73452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing he did after that was to turn on the CAPTCHA for all anonymous users, I think. < 1329568823 488345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, that was technically 2006. < 1329568834 534878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only technically. < 1329568840 243230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm going to... like... < 1329568847 213995 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's the most annoying thing about the wiki? < 1329568849 63278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from the spam. < 1329568853 421327 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apart from me. < 1329568941 215128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Come on, there's gotta be a third thing! < 1329568946 529825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky. < 1329568982 852209 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that there's at least two categories for BF derivatives < 1329568983 512193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only think of edits timing out before you submit, but i've sort of adapted to that and i'm not sure it's the wiki's fault anyway < 1329568995 845477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That shouldn't be present with the new server. < 1329569003 621756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1329569003 932936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (It'll also be a lot faster, being in London.) < 1329569014 966088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's faster in london. < 1329569019 665840 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ping london1.linode.com and compare with your ping to esolangs.org. < 1329569020 216523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :London, the city of speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed < 1329569022 898043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when it doesn't change at all. < 1329569027 299313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And then report the figures to me, because I'm interested.) < 1329569090 377443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :52 and 195 ms, respectively < 1329569104 20725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1329569107 57447 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 and 173 for me < 1329569124 95476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 and 158 for me. < 1329569149 773787 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As an aside, pyralspite.net is also 173ms) < 1329569166 312271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, pyralspite is in America. < 1329569170 391032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably dying soon. < 1329569179 919716 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is a rtt average enough? < 1329569186 940878 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1329569192 127929 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :463 and 468 for me. < 1329569207 510055 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: where are you? < 1329569211 960492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: ouch < 1329569215 881447 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seoul, South Korea ;) < 1329569216 68310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: my condolences < 1329569219 508914 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329569223 474238 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, London's still better < 1329569231 61019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's the price you pay for the kinds of speeds you get in that part of the globe :) < 1329569241 946560 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329569271 11442 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my ISP has been notoriously slow for certain abroad networks < 1329569279 130731 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@222.122.156.78 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Korea Telecom, to be exact) < 1329569309 95328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, http://www.kt.com/eng/ takes about 4 years to load here, so I'll agree with that. < 1329569314 440639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like this kind of sonic shock when packets leave south korea, because of the sudden decrease in speed. < 1329569320 534212 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, penguins. < 1329569480 983279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fourth annoyance???? C'mon I can fix ANYTHING < 1329569502 619473 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How lame the forum is. < 1329569511 8830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The forum is dying, rest in peace. < 1329569534 744210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that Graue is actually a pretty nice dude??? < 1329569667 500957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you create categories,. < 1329569683 872889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFS why are , and . so close together on this keyboard. < 1329569704 607455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he might have become a nicer dude in the 7 intervening years??? < 1329569714 740627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you believe the wiki is 7 years old? < 1329569723 17762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one way to find out! < 1329569736 232246 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There has been an esolang since 1972 < 1329569747 862642 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longer than that. < 1329569766 76433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1329569770 943918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL was the first designed esolang. < 1329569772 340322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But http://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages < 1329569795 856314 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P'' was an academic tool intended for research < 1329569826 514331 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coq.inria.fr/pylons/contribs/view/Topology/v8.3 < 1329569830 699153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This should be fun. < 1329569840 704431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean impossible to understand. < 1329569854 465843 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :L6... maybe < 1329569920 164637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's better than the ZFC one, in that the comments and names aren't in French, < 1329570129 122656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1329570338 834965 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is leaving because he couldn't think of a fourth. < 1329570342 274154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's SHAME. < 1329570349 500011 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.25. < 1329570399 891261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1329570422 875560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fourth == one quater == 0.25 < 1329570443 335083 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1329570446 64946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Remember http://miekko.infa.fi/kaksikymment.ogg??? < 1329570454 263245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yno. < 1329570477 815067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1329570495 578141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that that Coq file contains Ensembles and Families, both of which appear to be Coqy sets. < 1329570509 838196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the latter doesn't actually appear to be defined anywhere, < 1329570544 745032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coq.inria.fr/stdlib/Coq.Sets.Ensembles.html < 1329570554 531668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latter, elliott, latter. < 1329570572 548704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ensemble is just -> Prop. < 1329570591 529175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to the file that mentions families? < 1329570600 147399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coq.inria.fr/pylons/contribs/files/Topology/v8.3/Topology.TopologicalSpaces.html < 1329570605 250562 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Require Export Families. < 1329570611 641242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later, open_family_union : forall F : Family point_set, < 1329570657 888407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coq.inria.fr/pylons/contribs/view/ZornsLemma/v8.3 < 1329570661 984796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The library depends on my ZornsLemma contribution. The provided < 1329570662 171385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :makefile expects compiled files to be present in ../ZornsLemma; if you < 1329570662 171571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have them somewhere else, first run < 1329570662 171698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : coq_makefile -R /path/to/ZornsLemma ZornsLemma -R . Topology *.v > makefile < 1329570662 171805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before running make. < 1329570664 262381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :--Topology thing < 1329570674 436602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Families.v - operations on families of subsets of X, i.e. Ensemble (Ensemble X) < 1329570701 597542 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329570720 573146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Coq tactic proofs are so readable. < 1329570735 644822 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfft, the proofs are a technicality. < 1329570751 852558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was being sarcastic.) < 1329570765 453026 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So was I. < 1329570771 855080 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't < 1329570775 389758 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being silent < 1329570787 156337 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : open_full : open Full_set < 1329570798 492872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... pretty sure that's not an axiom of a topological space. < 1329570803 84374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, yes it is. < 1329570886 61191 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1329570913 900614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the first two proofs have just been wrangling the Coq definitions into agreeing with the obvious. < 1329570941 889926 :cheater__!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329570956 409000 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s kaksikymment.ogg supposed to be? < 1329570963 945290 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329570967 900409 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-126.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329570992 51710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: An ordinary Finnish word. < 1329571000 820429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen. < 1329571017 208581 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1329571031 344426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it wasn't a Finnish word, how could we possibly have a Finn saying it on record? < 1329571033 328337 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it’s obviously Anordinaryfinnishword. < 1329571130 461541 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-156-126.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1329571133 638007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Perhaps this will help: < 1329571138 40080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=prev&oldid=20966 < 1329571139 894549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=prev&oldid=21366 < 1329571140 544250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=next&oldid=20966 < 1329571142 229850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=next&oldid=21366 < 1329571144 214161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&direction=next&oldid=21521 < 1329571201 800853 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1329571204 574946 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-246-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329571238 402289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say k, but beneath your steely Finnish exterior there is a heart sparking with joy at the poetry. < 1329571299 981701 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-246-198.as43234.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1329571314 889838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a Finnologist. < 1329571397 637252 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-156-126.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329571432 639115 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329571462 551150 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-246-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329571581 296200 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-247-47.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329571782 639043 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-246-198.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329571857 255075 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Finnologist, or a "Finker" like they colloquially say. < 1329571901 210408 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best ever headline: http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/late-post-is-not-that-late-1.924528 < 1329571917 967782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. < 1329571923 183089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D < 1329571937 98480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :LATE POST ‘IS NOT THAT LATE’ | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1329572125 368366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this, you have a newspaper in Hexham? < 1329572133 83372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a *website*!? < 1329572141 114452 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1329572152 520156 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best newspaper in Northumberland < 1329572165 196834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a professional-looking website, not just any site. < 1329572209 400577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, it's not really just or Hexhamites. < 1329572211 126517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for < 1329572211 591605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that Taneb is apparently a cricketer. < 1329572219 521336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes to a lot of places. Well, for English values of a lot. < 1329572225 321614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/students-pass-classic-test-1.288062?referrerPath=home/2.3307 < 1329572228 233201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a dweeb,. < 1329572230 608686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also that site design is new or something. < 1329572262 307515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/clean-up-causes-disruption-1.924484?referrerPath=home < 1329572263 181951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG it has his GCSE results. < 1329572272 246928 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really!? < 1329572276 775261 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hexham Courant are true masters of the headline form. < 1329572294 109218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well no, it has the number of C to A* grades. < 1329572298 348332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/opinion/hextol/no-crumbs-of-comfort-in-brown-bread-1.924426?referrerPath=opinion/hextol < 1329572309 122865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the measure of how good you are at writing your name on the papers. < 1329572319 65752 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I do not play cricket. < 1329572321 386295 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/opinion/hextol/coffee-brewed-from-powder-is-still-my-cup-of-tea-1.919729?referrerPath=opinion/hextol < 1329572326 922531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Dude look at these headlines. < 1329572334 244135 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being a dweeb I'll admit to < 1329572341 405022 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/sport/other/cool-dude-nathan-takes-to-the-ice-for-europeans-1.924439?referrerPath=home < 1329572350 653092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it still can't beat the EEN's "trams trams trams trams TRAMS fucking TRAMS"# < 1329572362 820134 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572363 165112 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329572363 351964 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572368 360152 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will now have LUNCH < 1329572371 884180 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net NICK :LUNCH < 1329572374 913222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sorry you have to agree that LATE POST ‘IS NOT THAT LATE’ is one of the all-time classic headlines. < 1329572375 833485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1329572376 996829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1329572381 354642 :LUNCH!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb|Lunch < 1329572382 240007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should win a Pulitzer. < 1329572389 379118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have any tram headlines today. < 1329572396 209942 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that one is good. < 1329572413 677710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Best ever headline: http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/late-post-is-not-that-late-1.924528 < 1329572418 625037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BNP chief wades into city Bondage punk’s tribunal" < 1329572419 300323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what brought this up. < 1329572423 585630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha < 1329572423 976367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1329572429 163452 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1329572455 507241 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As her alter-ego, Mish Bondage, she appears in pictures on the internet wearing leather and fishnets, sporting tattoos and with bright red hair." < 1329572467 55413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is bnp involved, < 1329572471 879092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this some other internet where that's worthy of the appelation "bondage punk". < 1329572482 636150 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-247-47.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329572486 836613 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-149-53.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572492 287462 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572492 766209 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329572492 953143 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572505 241350 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572525 516091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's print news media. < 1329572527 856428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the BNP fired her or something and she's not happy? < 1329572546 567527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :She worked for the BNP? < 1329572565 871811 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Feathers fly as city set to deny gull service" < 1329572575 325098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, as an assistant or something. < 1329572593 218789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard that the seagulls in Edinburgh are unusually large, but I've yet to see any evidence of it. < 1329572612 3580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sado-nation.com/ < 1329572614 504177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKULLS, MAN. < 1329572642 838808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're, like, a metaphor, man. < 1329572650 358519 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the skulls inside all of us. < 1329572686 984439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers being in primary school, when after break the seagulls would descend en masse to eat any food left in the playground. < 1329572699 817299 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329572711 169300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Shop worker held up with broken bottle" < 1329572714 27357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The seagulls of Seague ull loudly at the sea" -- old adage. < 1329572715 629587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wonder it was broken. < 1329572737 80071 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1329572737 860552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god < 1329572742 71951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their review section < 1329572743 735409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has stars < 1329572744 178260 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-131-97.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572747 11904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they just show it < 1329572755 580388 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by putting asterisks at the end of the summary. < 1329572767 930391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1329572768 117320 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Review: Paul Carrack, Queen’s Hall < 1329572768 117470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a bull in a china shop. **** "# < 1329572823 839278 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-248-96.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329572937 634409 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-149-53.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329573042 661366 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-131-97.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329573059 848168 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329573114 787310 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-232-210.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329573190 852578 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329573238 91696 :Taneb|Lunch!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net NICK :Taneb < 1329573249 809113 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have finnished my lunch. < 1329573258 922474 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not, however, Norwegian it < 1329573287 632709 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-248-96.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329573415 402094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePhantomHoover < 1329573419 869340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastard! < 1329573952 675460 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-232-210.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329574161 494514 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Quit: changing computer < 1329574369 852456 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329574482 76803 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329575530 726296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIIIPEEEEERT < 1329575581 414947 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1329575872 984089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1329575912 435116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: All your wiki pages belong to ME now. < 1329576086 602811 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: (Also: your base, your soul) < 1329576117 177924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: There goes [[Glass]] and [[ORK]]. < 1329576127 94457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be more careful about your remarks in future!!! < 1329576144 143264 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1329576321 492642 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nope! I have Wiki pages of my own! < 1329576324 76549 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just haven't added them. < 1329576333 603413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know [[Dupdog]]? < 1329576339 253570 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, what's that? < 1329576341 342659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That page LIVES AND DIES BY MY DICTATORIAL ORDER now. < 1329576345 451923 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fine. < 1329576348 606354 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of shitty anyway. < 1329576352 822568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're kind of shitty. < 1329576355 512848 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I would actually prefer that it be rewritten. < 1329576358 617814 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1329576360 97036 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't < 1329576379 777156 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I've got BRAND NEW IDEAS REGARDING DUPDOGOIDS (yes that's what they're called now) < 1329576422 31597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a Dupdog proof of TCness/TinCness would be theoretically interesting. < 1329576428 484823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reminds me very much of 1D CAs. < 1329576446 558340 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES. if only someone could go do that.. < 1329576453 136882 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone with real knowledges < 1329576457 684184 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not me) < 1329576524 934416 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically I've got an idea for a new language where there's a 2-argument instruction that substitutes characters < 1329576534 504821 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the string "sab" would replace all a's with b's < 1329576547 961506 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mights it a bit easier to actually do something. < 1329576567 510320 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :*makes < 1329576587 733302 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~!~ --infinite loop in dupdog? < 1329576596 681739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan You could try and figure out whether Dupdog is TC or not. You know, if you wanted to. < 1329576596 968853 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329576602 353968 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329576608 561445 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: thanks for reminding him < 1329576614 234085 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :he may have forgotten how interested he was in the topic. < 1329576628 188523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ !~!~ < 1329576638 761126 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! ~!~~!~ damn < 1329576654 585436 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also considering an instruction called ", that removes all preceding characters up to the next " (or all the way to the end of the string, causing it to terminate) < 1329576669 42327 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that combined with the substition operator would be TC. but I'm not sure. < 1329576711 867803 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not meant to make it easier. < 1329576742 869158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other dupdog programs have been written apart from that hello world? < 1329576743 679886 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ !~~!~!~~!~ < 1329576762 1895 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! ~~!~!~~!~~~!~!~~!~ < 1329576866 651290 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well I would like to make it easier but make it similar in concept. < 1329576881 360851 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :other variants could have different goals. -shrug- < 1329576890 281209 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-213-31.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329576892 624786 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-208-102.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329576913 826965 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??~~!! < 1329576958 513969 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? !??~~ < 1329576969 531642 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! ??~~??~~ < 1329576987 610734 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? !??!!?? < 1329576995 819106 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! ??!!????!!?? < 1329576997 611127 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1329577000 134934 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and still writing programs with those operators is still going to be difficult... < 1329577013 817675 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a good way) < 1329577088 421466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about program-writing. < 1329577164 566021 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~! < 1329577167 602624 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1329577170 276591 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1329577180 492213 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\2' < 1329577187 197940 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1329577188 447774 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, I guess with a substition operator it becomes something like a production system? < 1329577215 353877 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... where the input string is also the sequence of production rules. < 1329577283 289660 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also limited to (presumably) a finite alphabet for production rules, since it only substitutes a single character rather than an arbitrary string. < 1329577454 475272 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess an infinite alphabet is possible too < 1329577465 232975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing that needs changing about dupdog is the output system. < 1329577490 738630 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just exploring different ideas. I'm not trying to "fix" dupdog at the moment. < 1329577497 678306 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you recommend for the output. < 1329577515 408030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the decimal output is ugly. < 1329577523 343123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is the ASCII thing. < 1329577529 354753 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, I agree. < 1329577539 672760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideally it'd be something like mfit can output 0 bits and shanty can output 1 bits and that's it, or something. < 1329577559 345245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might make coherent ASCII output nearly-impossible, but it exposes the structure of the computation better. < 1329577570 936651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's not like dupdog programs that do coherent ASCII output are going to be written anyway. < 1329577578 315345 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :would the bit still be based on the string length? < 1329577595 190717 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, what if counted a particular character in the source code? < 1329577595 787982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ideally it'd be something like mfit can output 0 bits and shanty can output 1 bits and that's it, or something. < 1329577596 815317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd just have < 1329577598 758221 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and used that as the output bit. < 1329577601 295825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mfit: If the character is something else, 0 is output. < 1329577604 20012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shanty: If the character is something else, 1 is output. < 1329577605 423226 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1329577605 655757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and leave it at that. < 1329577606 412507 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1329577608 776606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something. < 1329577613 685615 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1329577616 697478 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of bytes. :P < 1329577624 207623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't. < 1329577659 610759 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think counting a particular character in the source string and outputting that as a byte would be a bit less impossible for output. but as far as I can tell making dupdog sensible is out of the question. < 1329577665 574406 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :without making a completely different language. < 1329577707 22375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why my suggestion brings it closer to a computational model than something trying to be a language. < 1329577729 730616 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1329577791 963319 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though character counting output is a perfectly fine computational model as well. -shrug- < 1329577797 891675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Notably, shanty/? can be implemented by flipping a bit. < 1329577808 216470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you consider "reading forwards" vs. "reading backwards" a boolean interpreter state. < 1329577815 838493 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might simplify analysis greatly. < 1329577822 372243 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I've considered how to handle string reversal. < 1329577828 208524 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that regard. < 1329577844 229200 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, say, in Haskell if you're using Seq to represent the string < 1329577854 818639 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :? would just alternate between viewR and viewL < 1329577859 862619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Additionally, < 1329577870 251188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a duplication the length of the source code is always even. < 1329577874 715467 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1329577881 387081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wonder if you could not implement duplication as some control structure that doesn't actually duplicate the program. < 1329577888 706941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But instead loops it twice and maintains some state of is-even-or-not. < 1329577896 259400 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in a character counting system, the number of that character would always be even < 1329577902 419000 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would make odd number output trickier < 1329577904 576999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might tease enough structure out of it to look like an actual language. < 1329577944 16365 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difficulty with that would be the character transposition operator, I don't recall the symbol I used... < 1329577951 369532 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1329577954 425064 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no < 1329577967 61646 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a three-valued... value. < 1329577976 590830 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1329578048 518168 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three different states determine your interpretation of characters. < 1329578117 12619 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, looping twice doesn't work I think < 1329578147 613407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean it would be that simple. < 1329578154 746001 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, if you reverse, duplicate, and then maybe chop off some more input characters before reversing < 1329578175 117945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just meant that if you turn reversal into an "IP switch", and massage duplication into a control structure of some sort, you'd get a lot further. < 1329578191 643994 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1329578201 427791 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversal can definitely be a boolean. < 1329578220 799974 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1329578272 177884 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be nice if it maintain a palindrome. < 1329578281 585708 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically that would require reversing after each operation. < 1329578306 755713 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1329578314 296304 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nice because it makes it a more interesting computational model < 1329578318 102087 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice because I like palindromes. :P < 1329578425 899861 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION good priorities in language design. < 1329578450 871159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329578705 876657 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329578778 244034 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329578963 35071 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules gnome uses to go from single monitor to two monitors is pretty stupid. < 1329579611 69887 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-038-149.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329579727 660434 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-059-015.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329579969 269306 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's X? < 1329579970 949148 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1329580230 968443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which rules are that? < 1329580322 665733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 'those', perhaps. < 1329580334 240527 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1329580353 368655 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1329580373 311344 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, when I plug in a monitor to my laptop < 1329580384 689555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it decides that I wanted the right workspaces to be on the right monitor of the left workspace... < 1329580387 663235 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... I don't want that. < 1329580411 131697 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I divide my workspaces via what I'm doing at the time. Why would I suddenly want everything to get shuffled around so that I have to reorganize it? < 1329580507 823337 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't have the focus to use two monitors as two different "workspaces" < 1329580513 577509 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they seem to think I want to do. < 1329580517 284731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what that means. I mean, IIRC gnome just has a set of workspaces that span the whole screen (all monitors). < 1329580525 846476 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1329580537 580689 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :switching workspaces switches all monitors to the new workspace < 1329580543 435756 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when you connect a new monitor < 1329580550 812841 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have a 2x2 grid of workspaces < 1329580567 492087 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes the windows on the right workspace and moves them to the second monitor on the left workspace.... < 1329580574 279790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I don't know how else to explain it, lol. < 1329580616 4514 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have "dick around" stuff in the top left, and job stuff on the top right. < 1329580625 163485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. Well, that's pure Gnome, anyways. (I would've expected it to just change the size of the workspaces, but admittedly I haven't used a grid either.) < 1329580628 14793 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I plug in a monitor, all of my work stuff jumps to the second monitor on my "dick around" workspace. < 1329580647 496175 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could fix that by using the bottom left workspace for work. < 1329580707 747113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's trying to be clever. Or alternatively just maintaining the window locations in the virtual space you get if you'd lay out the workspaces physically the way you have them configured. < 1329580723 837873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what it's doing < 1329580725 818171 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one. < 1329580741 810186 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtually each workspace is now two screens side by side. < 1329580753 292920 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329580757 537867 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can even see this in the animation to move workspaces. < 1329580776 174001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it has a sort of consistent logic, even if it's not the sort of logic you'd like. < 1329580782 127331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it then make a set of empty "right workspaces"? < 1329580790 757261 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1329580811 142004 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah I guess I'll just use the left workspaces to organize between work vs. not-work < 1329580837 459023 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :though sometimes I use 3 workspaces, rarely 4 < 1329580849 411566 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 3rd one would be for school. < 1329580873 209815 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but getting my work stuff and school stuff temporarily disorganized isn't a big deal. < 1329580884 374156 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when work + fun mixes together I end up with like 11-12 windows to sort out. :P < 1329580898 12470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A four-high stack would work, though I suppose that'd look bad in the switcher and maybe if you navigate it in terms of up/down/left/right instead of numbers. < 1329580912 816346 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I use the arrow keys. < 1329580922 510788 :[-away-]!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :PiRSquared17 < 1329580928 147717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329580943 292234 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I can't complain too much. previously I was only using one workspace. < 1329580954 963392 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I decided, hey, why don't I use this organizational feature provided to me. < 1329580959 733899 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it's awesome. < 1329580974 214857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a horizontal strip 1-8 with Gnome's WM; I wonder if adding a monitor there would shuffle everything to the first half. < 1329581008 541291 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is that it would take each even workspace and merge it with the previous odd one. < 1329581014 636218 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know how it works exactly. < 1329581094 789095 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be a special case for a horizontal length of 2. < 1329581100 454984 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but that seems weird. < 1329581210 679632 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't even utilize my second monitor for anything other than watching Youtube videos < 1329581230 548452 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :or occasionally when I want to look at two windows at the same time. < 1329581268 222790 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say the productivity boost from a second monitor is minimal at best < 1329581287 759646 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything it simply lets me not have to make a decision between watching movies/videos or getting work done. < 1329581298 532599 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a benefit in itself, I suppose. < 1329581351 309575 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, anyway, that's enough of that. TIME TO DO MATH HOMEWORK < 1329581377 572925 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in real life I have ARBITRARILY INDEFINITE WORKSPACES < 1329581412 573583 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't shuffle my windows around when I plug in a second mon -- okay this analogy isn't working anymore. < 1329582557 925256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What tmie is it in AMEREREIRERIERICA? < 1329582565 775372 :maki!ba1c9687@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.150.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329582624 506310 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: which america < 1329582627 368647 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:30 EST < 1329582661 530649 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EST is Real American Time(tm)) < 1329582672 38599 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems everybody is in EST. Confirm? < 1329582692 498970 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :California is GMT-8 < 1329582754 236358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, whatever North Carolina is in, or so I hear. < 1329582768 773919 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :also New York, and Georgia (where I live) < 1329582772 81268 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only important places in the US. < 1329582775 284171 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :ignore the west coast. < 1329582823 922598 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329582869 306377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, that's the timezone I care about. < 1329583014 250028 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes me too. < 1329583979 714611 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1329584199 994296 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329584225 533968 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329584415 949819 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do indeed happen to be in EST. < 1329584421 694691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysql> delete from text where old_id in (1967,1968,1969,1970,1971,1972,8168,2165,8204,1926,1945,1950,1964,1965,8164); < 1329584421 881230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Query OK, 15 rows affected (0.05 sec) < 1329584424 159123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCARY. < 1329584434 777263 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-84-13-77-230.opaltelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1329584444 305554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally the zombie namespace is purged. < 1329584792 475810 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329585019 47446 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329585019 470719 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329585019 656955 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329585209 913482 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am about to say something which i know that to really learn the answers i would have to actually do some research < 1329585211 742469 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway < 1329585272 524118 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IS BABBY FORMED < 1329585322 942347 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how they came up with the standard instruction set as we see it today.. MOV(LOAD and STORE i guess?), CMP, ADD, SUB, MUL, DIV, INT, RET etc < 1329585391 137017 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i would learn it was an evolutionary process < 1329585423 388971 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to implement questions with text inputs in Internet Quiz Engine, but am unsure exactly the way of doing so < 1329585459 94357 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: We could also experiment with alternative instruction sets, which is sometimes done such as in esolang wiki and so on < 1329585504 105027 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as if a community could be formed around such an absurd idea as that < 1329585558 148777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: Take a look at the first few programmable computers' instruction sets. < 1329585565 266340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a long, slow haul from there. < 1329585570 12566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not all that much has changed. < 1329585570 889701 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you think it is like absurd idea... < 1329585578 244066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Basic instruction set-wise.) < 1329586108 300228 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Babbage's Analytical Engine is largely the same basic premise. < 1329586130 9686 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with wiki's help i think i found the starting point (sort of) < 1329586380 319190 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586380 505979 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-70.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329586380 506145 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586384 325089 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pascal made an adding machine, which could subtract using 9's compliment < 1329586390 545790 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586410 296153 :tzxn4!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586416 70621 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"followed by the invention of the first four-operation calculator by Gottfried Leibniz." < 1329586498 522334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysql> optimize table abuse_filter,abuse_filter_action,abuse_filter_history,abuse_filter_log,archive,category,categorylinks,change_tag,cu_changes,cu_log,external_user,externallinks,filearchive,hitcounter,image,imagelinks,interwiki,ipblocks,iwlinks,job,l10n_cache,langlinks,log_search,logging,module_deps,msg_resource,msg_resource_links,objectcache,oldimage,page,page_props,page_restrictions,pagelinks,protected_titles,querycache,querycache_info,query < 1329586498 749138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cachetwo,recentchanges,redirect,revision,searchindex,site_stats,tag_summary,templatelinks,text,trackbacks,transcache,updatelog,uploadstash,user,user_former_groups,user_groups,user_newtalk,user_properties,valid_tag,watchlist; < 1329586500 306631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION zzzzzz < 1329586510 714799 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586575 638199 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Pff, who needs optimized tables. < 1329586614 247463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, how the hell are you meant to pick a buffer pool size for MySQL? < 1329586623 293096 :shachaf_!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586629 222086 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1329586631 172635 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you tell it to optimize all of them in a single command? Or does it have no such things? < 1329586633 292813 :coppro_!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586644 120778 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586644 525675 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586645 1246 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586645 195081 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586645 374842 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586645 561251 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586645 906069 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586646 441247 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586646 951955 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586647 325712 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586647 715374 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329586648 462596 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586649 556890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Probably, but I was too lazy to figure out how. < 1329586657 109017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You know things about MySQL, right??? < 1329586668 29360 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, no. < 1329586707 879139 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586722 504492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LIES. < 1329586727 164960 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an idea once which i have not discarded about having a computer as an ingame object akin to a potion, a sword, a key or a shield < 1329586730 663515 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586746 847624 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this idea, while it may have been done before, is probably quite novel < 1329586760 415442 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586766 57216 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329586798 325222 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1329586802 168339 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, upon reading this stuff, the ideas are coming in greater number. < 1329586862 396635 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could upgrade the computer through the course of the game, starting with a Pascaline, then a Stepped Reckoner, gradually building up to an electronic laptop < 1329586903 876495 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK make up some game like this. < 1329586906 788087 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In an rpg you could have a player class who could operate a computer < 1329586919 194784 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/electronic/mechanical/ < 1329586945 256644 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1329586952 971193 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1329586992 787780 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet olsner knows about MySQL. < 1329587000 932920 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. when visiting an armory you could get software for use in battle. < 1329587076 168667 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually got this idea (unconcious plagiarism) from someone asking the naruto comic artist if he would ever put computers in the naruto world, and he said something like, well maybe 8bit < 1329587106 190027 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't watch naruto, just heard in passing < 1329587199 740815 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that sounds curiously steampunk < 1329587218 279194 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was really just mocking your use of a moot adjective. < 1329587258 879859 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh.. yes < 1329587261 995074 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Steampunk" really is just a poorly-named nostalgia for mechanical technology (having nothing more or less to do with steam than electronics does, typically). < 1329587287 302021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO, http://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8387 < 1329587302 89021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, someone said steampunk. < 1329587325 128806 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in mockery! < 1329587349 784122 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.. yeah.. only in mockery < 1329587378 948602 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned that I now own an ENORMOUS steampunk-styled My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic canvas bag? < 1329587384 101 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott's brain explodes* < 1329587398 424521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's ok. You will die before me. < 1329587527 131418 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.welovefine.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/new_bags.jpg // isn't it glorious? < 1329587547 133194 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear he may be serious < 1329587593 235602 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Came with the hat X-D < 1329587619 298844 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're wearing bronze framed goggles < 1329587624 824624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed I know everything < 1329587638 835778 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysql is an SQL database < 1329587688 247951 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: No, it's a relational database for which the access language is based on SQL. < 1329587772 207310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1329587777 709303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MySQL does not meet the relational criteria. < 1329587800 141749 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a database with some aspects of the relational model for which the access language is based on SQL (which is not relational either). < 1329587813 321150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also wants SO MUCH RAM HOLY SHIT < 1329587868 447693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, MediaWiki's Bugzilla is the only tolerable Bugzilla I have *ever* seen. < 1329587906 351622 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "tolerable" and "Bugzilla" were incompatible. < 1329587916 795394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6200 < 1329587922 605686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The trick is that it looks absolutely nothing like Bugzilla whatsoever. < 1329587943 501525 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kinda funny given that it's associated with a wiki that nobody can figure out how to configure to not look like Wikipedia. < 1329587953 46134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the search page is carefully styled to look like MW. It's like someone went in to try and desperately purge all traces of Bugzillatude from it. < 1329587991 320072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@faq Can Haskell produce a MediaWiki website that doesn't look like Wikipedia? < 1329587991 579119 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer is: Yes! Haskell can do that. < 1329587993 816910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell < 1329588016 395633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(HaskellWiki is actually just ridiculously well-formatted in general: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Typeclassopedia) < 1329588062 270332 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest limit in all these things is the display itself < 1329588090 478491 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wow, is this actually MW? < 1329588116 311234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yep. < 1329588130 379094 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I can't even find any evidence of MWness ... I'm impressed. < 1329588138 821206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/index.php?title=Haskell&action=history gives it away < 1329588146 885905 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be great if we could all have 24" e-ink monitors for reading < 1329588150 570475 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeyup. < 1329588157 816120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's literally *the* single non-terrible third-party MW design I've ever seen. < 1329588195 845685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Special:Version ;; this also gives it away :P < 1329588221 115869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I should install SyntaxHighlight on Esolang. < 1329588242 131333 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if it supports Brainfuck. < 1329588247 868274 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact i think it would be a good investment if a nations government subsidized the development and distribution of gigantic e-ink monitors which can be connected via vga port < 1329588296 621335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :VGA? Are you serious? < 1329588309 108956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: You realise governments fund research, right?) < 1329588311 888189 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm < 1329588319 352405 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess not vga >.< < 1329588339 223695 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't actually held an e-ink device in person but from what i read they are just so cool < 1329588386 698975 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329588443 850154 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe theres already existing e-ink devices and no need for a giant one < 1329588522 323389 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but because they're so cool.. because you can actually read books on them.. there seems to be efforts to keep them away from generalized video data < 1329588576 617184 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :....... im just gonna shut up... maybe ill be able to say something true when i return < 1329588646 123174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus20: e-ink has a terrible refresh rate. < 1329588654 63581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many many times lower than what even simple animation requires. < 1329588665 345304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A mouse pointer on e-ink would be awful. < 1329588669 105843 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah.. its like the ultimate tradeoff against a video monitor < 1329588671 807664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also terrible at colour. < 1329588679 120463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at Pixel Qi displays. < 1329588691 53529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those can do backlight-less e-inky stuff and normal display stuff. < 1329588717 824836 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm wow < 1329588745 58447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I bet you know aaaall about writing MediaWiki extensions. < 1329588770 644787 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres actually nothing wrong with the esolangs.org look though < 1329588799 907942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not looking to change the look. Although the default skin will become Vector thanks to the MW upgrade. < 1329588803 700030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Vector is the skin Wikipedia uses.) < 1329588812 559897 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1329588818 577849 :maki!ba1c9687@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.28.150.135 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1329588829 815402 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes now i remember why i brought up that topic < 1329588839 899652 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Special:Version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version < 1329588849 243201 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres only so much you can do on the software side of things before you need new hardware to improve the appearance of a website < 1329589091 143553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1329589091 493583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1329589096 174637 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Having written zero of them, yes. < 1329589098 139852 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@raping < 1329589098 423641 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1329589187 956655 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329589652 460551 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329589785 71768 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8BF53.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329590101 529014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1329590153 676453 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, why am I disconnecting and reconnecting every five minuets X_X < 1329590165 654944 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From my BNC) < 1329590187 729212 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each minuet taking about five minutes, I'm reconnecting every 25 minutes or so. < 1329590190 305697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't worry about it. Minuets can last quite a while. < 1329590193 237885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1329590521 856578 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change the default skin to whatever you want it to be. < 1329590552 215021 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the best default skin < 1329590556 898060 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Nostalgia skin but I could change that in the user preferences; you said it already has that. < 1329590626 746105 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the secret to a good wiki skin is that you forget the wiki has a skin at all < 1329590638 62474 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric : >:-) < 1329590650 138943 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1329590710 739320 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you could install SyntaxHighlight. Possibly even a new namespace to define custom syntax highlighters? < 1329590764 138703 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is syntax highlighting helpful? < 1329590784 137075 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would there be some mode which makes it replace the > on the left of a literate Haskell code with a vertical border running on there while keeping it > at front of each line in the source of the page? < 1329590791 466307 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one may notice that textbooks tend to shirk syntax highlighting < 1329590806 739530 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put it down to printing costs but i doubt it's that < 1329590823 546874 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329590826 755495 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just airing bits of wisdom :D < 1329590832 866477 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1329590847 169387 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programs such as WEB do prettyprinting of Pascal codes even in books without colors < 1329590928 712253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi calamari! your technical support bill will be $200 < 1329590969 371576 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be possible that syntax highlighting is tempting when in an environment with 100s of syntaxes floating around < 1329591004 139120 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it may be a way to make up for the fact that a monitor is a terrible way to read < 1329591092 704979 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admit that IDEs do it < 1329591113 716950 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good point in it's defence < 1329591118 210460 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose you don't really need syntax highlighting if you don't want it. < 1329591158 290407 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just wondering whether it actually helps < 1329591212 537801 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, you should install a addon where you have something like ... where it is raw codes like
 does in MediaWiki and then has a download link for that code; it would help with some of the stuff in esolang wiki. But there should be another thing too, download entire source such as in a literate Haskell program.
< 1329591235 49401 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess what it helps with is searching
< 1329591247 919688 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then install  as well as my own 
< 1329591257 91837 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uh... searching the screen for a particular type of token
< 1329591273 106046 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can invoke your ability to focus on an individual colour
< 1329591414 978428 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grudgingly accepts it is helpful
< 1329591477 135043 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1329591523 455909 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on the wiki talk page mentioned "Syntax highlighting for English/Natural language"
< 1329591735 252131 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: cool I just passed Go, so I can pay you .. here are $200 monopoly^Wfederal reserve notes.
< 1329591834 125062 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did I cause you some wiki-headaches?
< 1329591842 825210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the namespace stuff :P
< 1329591911 441360 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you weren't going to copy that
< 1329591932 270530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't, but the page entries still got in
< 1329591937 889122 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1329591945 691592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I had to readd the namespace, delete them, remove the namespace, and obliterate the changes from the DB
< 1329593375 887169 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1329593376 116446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1329593376 302896 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1329593376 489635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1329593376 489822 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1329593376 676313 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1329593376 989462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping
< 1329593377 227807 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1329593382 693202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok thats enough pong
< 1329593615 446538 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pink
< 1329593615 674394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1329594427 615238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329594501 916621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I may have tried before, you know.
< 1329594502 208677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329594940 68588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I did not, however, Norwegian it <-- what, no brunost?  that's unacceptable!
< 1329595204 404002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but i had ideas :'(
< 1329595204 633090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
< 1329595214 634074 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :Quenching
< 1329595222 277890 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-
< 1329595222 565282 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared.
< 1329595310 965061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you want to hear them :'(
< 1329595317 623977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they are :'(
< 1329595319 226051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the logs :'(
< 1329595355 799860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to have something in your eye.
< 1329595383 776971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :its tears
< 1329595448 981078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1329595457 983034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjey might even haf been
< 1329595459 730430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD Ideas
< 1329595501 12799 :Quenching!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :QueenOfFrancitiy
< 1329595544 180277 :QueenOfFrancitiy!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :PiRSquared17
< 1329595545 698312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION creys non-softly (hardly)
< 1329595723 231998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott hardly crying, check
< 1329595770 689152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Behold, a beam is in thine own eye.
< 1329595810 6304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish version makes that somehow sound hii-larious.
< 1329595855 735210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder mine eyes have been itching
< 1329595865 184875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they use the word "hirsi" there, it evokes this image of a three-metre ~10x10cm-profile hulking piece of wood.
< 1329595877 725911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though so does a "beam".
< 1329595888 995305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, to me it just sounds so much more concrete in Finnish.
< 1329595890 52214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does norwegian "bjelke"
< 1329595942 386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all weird fuckers
< 1329595943 346812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric ::▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀(
< 1329595956 219294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is what finnish people actually look like)
< 1329595970 898051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it's a mote point anyhow
< 1329596010 823184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALAN DIPERT
< 1329596013 48434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKES MY HEART HURT
< 1329596015 935027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE HE WON'T
< 1329596019 623151 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATE THE DNSON'T
< 1329596037 550189 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PART :#esoteric
< 1329596039 176506 :PiRSquared17!~PiRSquare@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329596050 243442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNS, or DNSN'T.
< 1329596053 259224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, he actually refused?
< 1329596074 731700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1329596080 323281 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just hasn't responded yet
< 1329596091 193157 :Chef___!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329596116 408116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if hes dead
< 1329596120 480636 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who will update the dnson't
< 1329596154 395769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god
< 1329596156 576791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tikulla silmään sitä joka vanhoja muistaa", a Finnish proverb. (It's something like "if someone's reminiscing old things, poke eir eye with a stick". I'm not sure if other languages have a version of this?)
< 1329596176 659725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's used in a "let bygones be bygones" like way.)
< 1329596192 321405 :Chef____!~Chef@S0106001310f0b056.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329596195 847330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only the finnish are that violent.
< 1329596233 902399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I adopt that idiom?
< 1329596244 762982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one?
< 1329596262 722234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone's reminiscing old things, poke eir eye with a stick
< 1329596321 64559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps "reminiscing" is not the right word. It's used when you dislike the fact that someone bought up some old thing.
< 1329596335 643120 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fi.wikiquote.org/wiki/Suomalaisia_sananlaskuja -- wow, that's one long list.
< 1329596366 231589 :Chef___!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1329596399 273503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Chef appears to be steadily growing.
< 1329596425 453665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you plotted the length over time yet? If it's exponential, there may be a reason to worry.
< 1329596437 790551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`Awake the morning, evening snooze, it is a way to keep the house.
< 1329596442 350250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, you're the master plotter here
< 1329596445 187285 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: Awake: not found
< 1329596455 534445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eve is a celebration of legs.
< 1329596460 883263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ella is a greedy piece of shit an end.
< 1329596475 2079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1329596476 426259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Early bird catches the worm, but only the second mouse not cheese.
< 1329596484 350399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each time a branch participants, as a Christmas tree hunter.
< 1329596501 515786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A shy man should not be a beautiful wife.
< 1329596530 945192 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not bad way even if it is a bit kivuttaa.
< 1329596531 131999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Einari nari, farted, and laid.
< 1329596535 962529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this would be funnier if i knew the originals for more than one of them
< 1329596549 744241 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fish do not get a man if the man fish.
< 1329596573 831414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wow, that "Eve is a celebration of legs". There's "jaloin", the superlative of "jalo"; "most noble", basically. But it's also some plural inflected form of "jalka", a leg.
< 1329596587 805506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is, I assure you.
< 1329596607 151334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is "greedy piece of shit" an accurate translation?
< 1329596705 437615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not oo child itkemätöntä katkeematonta and fabric.
< 1329596705 660956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doctrine does not crash into a ditch.
< 1329596705 847398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a beard-growing evil, turpajouhet nonsense.
< 1329596705 847545 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not crap weighing heal.
< 1329596715 689747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of lying, which is half of lying.
< 1329596717 136875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's not even about any "greedy Ella". The word is "ahneella", i.e. adessive case of "ahne", "of [in this case] the greedy". I can't fathom how it has split that to "ahne ella".
< 1329596740 110941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, it's something like "The greedy ones have a shitty fate".
< 1329596748 579428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it got the curse right. :p
< 1329596757 902266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION isn't sure hew ants to know what the farted and laid one is.
< 1329596760 572060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*he wants
< 1329596831 621127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not on tenterhooks sauna.
< 1329596841 319667 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't know what "nari" means there, but other than that it's pretty accurate like that.
< 1329596872 354193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't know what it means in the original.
< 1329596882 19526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not u bitch u get into an argument and not a piece of wood.
< 1329596899 345264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Ei yks akka riitele eikä yks puu pala.")
< 1329596900 986813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nary a word
< 1329596936 696844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It literally says "Einari nari, pieri ja pani". I guess it's from the onomatopoeic "nari-nari", for which I don't know the exact English. It's probably related to "snare", though.
< 1329596948 849112 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do not Lick before they are hatched.
< 1329596988 762106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selg ikke skinnet før bjørnen er skutt.
< 1329597020 64946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "bitch" one is "a single woman/bitch won't fight, and a single [block of] wood won't burn". The 'akka' word is not quite a neutral "woman", but not quite the English "bitch" either.
< 1329597030 425529 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :'hag'
< 1329597033 568534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1329597039 749756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Finns are... lovely people.
< 1329597041 19434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, at least more yes.
< 1329597064 853527 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attic'd bread, but the kids ate the stairs.
< 1329597073 64710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Practice makes perfect.
< 1329597073 251417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :continued: ... and the receiver of sulfur is training.
< 1329597088 1273 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last word dude man.
< 1329597107 864950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Lord's body, even if the clothes are bad.
< 1329597122 890032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silent hill.
< 1329597134 995512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hills are quiet.  too quiet.
< 1329597141 853756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's "practice makes a master ... and the master does training too", approximately.
< 1329597148 104135 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, said the Teletubby.
< 1329597156 408100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :, At a great distance.
< 1329597156 594862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :continued ... evil even further.
< 1329597160 564666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: are these real
< 1329597166 148088 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sinks in the carbon monoxide in the head.
< 1329597170 365806 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1329597170 552573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow they are
< 1329597173 979449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has again split [mestari] [-kin] inappropriately as [mesta] [rikin] or something, since 'rikki' is sulfur.
< 1329597177 80786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you... must explain monqy's
< 1329597201 964839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which one of them? 
< 1329597209 818184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all
< 1329597210 862949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them
< 1329597214 477230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1329597215 471163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must know
< 1329597229 926876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The "again, said the Teletubby" is just "again, said the Teletubby".
< 1329597236 183942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do say "again" a lot.
< 1329597246 663719 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a finnish proverb
< 1329597254 618054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a modern one.
< 1329597262 884122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ancient finnish teletubbies
< 1329597287 363415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Det er bare en overgang", sa reven, han ble flådd.
< 1329597298 681236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm having some trouble locating the originals to the rest.
< 1329597326 877210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I found one.
< 1329597335 815550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Just translate it in Chrome
< 1329597338 160147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl+F the English
< 1329597342 237121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hover over to get the Finlandish
< 1329597389 507983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sinks in the carbon monoxide in the head" -> "uppoaa kuin häkä päähän": that's... well, "[something] sinks in, just like carbon monoxide to the head".
< 1329597423 949389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit puzzled that fizzie is unable to read sentences in his native language.
< 1329597443 189026 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, speak of the devil, there's stomach where the wrestling is.
< 1329597474 801989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The last word dude man" is "the last word from a manly guy" or some-such.
< 1329597527 379997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Attic'd bread, but the kids ate the stairs" is just "there would be bread in the attic, but [we can't get there because] the kids ate the stairs". The part in [] is sort of implied.
< 1329597583 231389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Do not Lick before they are hatched" is "do not lick before it falls off"; it's a bit like "do not count your chickens before they're hatched", I suppose GT has just gotten the second half from there.
< 1329597606 931981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it doesn't really make sense.
< 1329597649 553164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since (in case of e.g. ice cream) you'd be better off getting in a lick or two if it's going to fall off anyway.
< 1329597649 842116 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotates as a fart leather pants.
< 1329597650 28522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rotates as a fart in the Sahara.
< 1329597678 997330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are pretty accurate. Except it's not really "rotates", it's more like "runs around".
< 1329597684 563513 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "it drops" rather than "it falls off": to drop :: tipahtaa : drop :: tippa.
< 1329597702 523885 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, :: tippua, but meh)
< 1329597754 324977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do Finns know what a proverb is?
< 1329597757 294878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a sentence fragment.
< 1329597788 761849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. (3) proverb, adage, saw, byword -- (a condensed but memorable saying embodying some important fact of experience that is taken as true by many people)
< 1329597806 85747 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squirrel is correct that the cone is covered with ice
< 1329597833 475569 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this embody some important fact of experience for finns
< 1329597843 275362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish squirrels are often correct
< 1329597881 954031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: "It serves the squirrel right that the cone's covered with ice."
< 1329597890 376367 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pinecone)
< 1329597893 43200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right.
< 1329597918 141884 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now is a dick on his forehead
< 1329597935 717274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Also I think it's "A : B :: C : D" and not "A :: B : C :: D".
< 1329597953 412849 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Meh, it's just syntax.
< 1329597980 767755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That's close enough. Note that there's an explanation below.
< 1329597995 177327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Når skaren bærer en mann ved Sankthans, blir det en sen vår.
< 1329597996 497257 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the explanation doesn't make sense either
< 1329598014 317203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Well, you can't have everything.
< 1329598020 710549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does finnish culture make sense to finns
< 1329598025 479957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The explanation is "At one job or project consists of hard to solve or insurmountable problems, the person responsible for the eyebrows go crispy stage".)
< 1329598036 798001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i honestly find your cavalier acceptance of this nonsense incomprehensible
< 1329598055 545713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well as the italians say, traditore traduttore
< 1329598078 437860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Until we have sex robots, we'll just have to settle for pasta.")
< 1329598087 198992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Italian is a concise language.)
< 1329598124 768075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *traduttore, traditore
< 1329598157 438929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that then "We'll just have to settle for pasta, until we have sex robots"? 
< 1329598170 880276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Unlike my alien grandson, I have plenty feathers for the mathematicians to ruffle.")
< 1329598179 440971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Italian is weird.
< 1329598186 970960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the speaker of Finnish.
< 1329598243 692237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i can assure you that elliott's translations are entirely appropriate to the original meaning.
< 1329598271 409551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot of these "proverbs" I hadn't heard before, and I get accused by friends of spouting all kinds of weirdo sayings all the time.
< 1329598291 753685 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granny fucked in the snow, and mother-in-law.
< 1329598296 432763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, I think my things aren't on the list.
< 1329598300 498956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, you know what they say. Never trust a dog with your telephone.
< 1329598302 76452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm only slightly joking)
< 1329598379 93888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: That's actually just "Granny in the snow, and mother-in-law in pee". Except the "in pee" bit may also mean "in trouble".
< 1329598380 320454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :En klokke i hånden er bedre enn tiur på taket
< 1329598388 51538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what
< 1329598390 33599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no "fucked" anywhere in there.
< 1329598423 3521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except I guess "I'm fucked" can also mean "I'm in trouble".
< 1329598428 350147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it sort-of makes sense that way.
< 1329598503 211937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for ending, kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen ever.
< 1329598507 439861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ??????
< 1329598528 356703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'??????'?
< 1329598537 213838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does i tmean
< 1329598562 201513 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never know what you tmean at any t.
< 1329598569 777061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean
< 1329598572 144065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that proverb mean
< 1329598656 701684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen one? I suppose it's just something indescribable. Maybe Deewiant can put it in words.
< 1329598830 191182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the feeling that
< 1329598832 462656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot fool fizzie :'9
< 1329598834 331851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1329598848 791755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling that I just used a cop-out.
< 1329598852 100861 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs27125254.pp.htv.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR you coming up with that compound with oklopol's help.
< 1329598877 383443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I didn't want to say anything that boring.
< 1329598883 570782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it was referred to today and all.
< 1329598934 555813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm glad you recognise it as a compound
< 1329598937 613392 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to, say, a jumble
< 1329598955 97435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twentyfourhourtimeperiodcurrent.
< 1329598961 492845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have named the server kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen.
< 1329598971 473853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes. "Today", in other words!
< 1329598975 368402 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other, inferior words.
< 1329599272 38575 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've updated my hats list! WHOAAAAH
< 1329599360 592709 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329599368 773316 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329599371 264613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1329599386 317327 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1329599406 374867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You caught the _-bug.
< 1329599458 383408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're so proud of you
< 1329599466 230295 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan
< 1329599472 52119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you hear, btw, oerjan_ says you have a moral imperative to op me as the new wiki admin
< 1329599478 975915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan will now deny this but he is not oerjan_
< 1329599487 63463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dispense only facts
< 1329599495 809568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_ is of no consequence whatsoever.
< 1329599536 854596 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um excuse me
< 1329599541 700003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do /nick oerjan_
< 1329599545 782531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will find yourself able to use chanserv op actions
< 1329599548 688185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore he is an authority
< 1329599581 916586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :eviloverlord
< 1329599596 413626 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eviloerjanlord
< 1329599602 472175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent
< 1329599603 356086 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eviloverlord: op me
< 1329599603 864793 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :eviloverlord
> 1329599603 903058 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1329599610 713645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that's step 1 of 2
< 1329599615 50293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2 is /op elliott
< 1329599621 24063 :eviloverlord!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :eviloverlord
> 1329599621 45738 NAMES :#esoteric
< 1329599625 4503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you typo'd
< 1329599626 186604 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So close
< 1329599627 731709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :start again
< 1329599628 654229 :eviloverlord!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan
< 1329599631 365197 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's difficult sometimes
< 1329599632 363831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no
< 1329599634 529920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're really bad at typing
< 1329599705 737591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal
< 1329599708 962472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see
< 1329599711 445550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happens
< 1329599715 675636 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you don't want that, do you?
< 1329599897 157390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think I disbelief.
< 1329599933 460643 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: JUST LIKE OERJAN DID, NO?
< 1329599979 609448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.Logic.D.
< 1329600052 383242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I SINGLE-HANDEDLY (well... double-handedly) solve the spam problem, upgrade MW, *and* grace you with badly-translated Finnish pronouns.
< 1329600057 3736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT FROM ME
< 1329600137 261501 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329600155 422826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!
< 1329600164 428202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes Taneb hostage.
< 1329600170 984852 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god
< 1329600175 176154 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's going on?
< 1329600189 735661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :An op-grab, I think.
< 1329600198 433882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an attempt, anyway.
< 1329600211 977665 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kill me, it will simplify the situation
< 1329600219 269468 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember the lessons from Speed!
< 1329600224 198663 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eliminate the hostage!
< 1329600241 311412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Will you feel scared if I kill Taneb as I did oerjan?
< 1329600246 762966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's, like, totally not even grabbing.
< 1329600247 365345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only lesson from Speed I remember is that buses can jump incredibly well even without any ramps.
< 1329600252 55065 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hierarchy goes like this:
< 1329600258 725193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incredibly benevolent active spam-fighting wiki owner
< 1329600260 947488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :          |
< 1329600265 809564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC op thingies
< 1329600268 802807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :          |
< 1329600277 454710 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :      everyone else
< 1329600279 974664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :          |
< 1329600282 256997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :      kallisti
< 1329600298 502022 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do Phantom__Hoover's targets fit on here?
< 1329600302 160041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So really I've just ascended and the caching engine in the propagate-downwards stuff is clogged up a bit with confusion.
< 1329600305 552473 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia
< 1329600308 577700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: They're a few miles to the right.
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< 1329600321 395219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Am I being convincing yet?
< 1329600335 366119 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i everyone else
< 1329600338 511596 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an op on #esoteric-chess-variants
< 1329600343 964451 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this count for anything?
< 1329600359 558384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually counts for less than nothing.
< 1329600381 150554 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it keeps some irrelevant topics out of the channel
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< 1329600414 581365 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is surely a good thing
< 1329600423 154991 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan What if I modified the wiki so that it was impossible to add entries to the language list, deadfish implementations, hello world implementations, etc. lists that were not in correct alphabetical order?
< 1329600423 487332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329600426 628365 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-85-107.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also means kallisti says slightly less htings
< 1329600429 133471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan What *then*?
< 1329600429 443187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329600442 358033 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Surely any reasonable person who is you would find this convincing.
< 1329600442 787434 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329600491 821062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott_
< 1329600773 255405 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any self-inverse functions, continuous almost everywhere, with the entire reals as domain, besides f(x)=+-x and f(0)=0,f(x!=0)=+-k/x?
< 1329600826 262959 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only on sundays
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< 1329600929 803732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why didn't my losing connection show up in the logs?
< 1329600930 87805 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
< 1329600935 347324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages
< 1329600935 705703 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 8m 32s ago: What if I modified the wiki so that it was impossible to add entries to the language list, deadfish implementations, hello world implementations, etc. lists that were not in
< 1329600935 945402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct alphabetical order?
< 1329600936 132275 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott asked 8m 26s ago: What *then*?
< 1329600936 132478 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 8m 12s ago: Surely any reasonable person who is you would find this convincing.
< 1329600943 347345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: tempting
< 1329600960 882111 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You say that, but then I'll do it.
< 1329600962 923270 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what THEN?
< 1329600989 464390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i should point out the order of the language list is not entirely charset based.
< 1329600993 330868 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Excellent question >_>
< 1329601021 591893 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, how is it ordered?
< 1329601057 340950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: sometimes by 1337 = leet
< 1329601085 298754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the genuinely non-alphabetic ones are first, of course
< 1329601110 854765 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well 1337 as leet is stupid.
< 1329601113 510211 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: will you tell me tomorrow what they are?
< 1329601123 910824 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, the proof is classical.
< 1329601158 344113 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee, my school's Linux system has X forwarding
< 1329601159 819159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where can i find it?
< 1329601162 612372 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fun things can I play with?
< 1329601185 489867 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The existence proof of the proof is also classical.
< 1329601190 581533 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The 1980s.
< 1329601196 34374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: also, my nick change from eviloverlord back to oerjan was not shown, although i might of course have lost some connection by then...
< 1329601208 501114 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't.
< 1329601209 972879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i hadn't noticed myself
< 1329601216 709314 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i prefer the romantic period anyway.
< 1329601223 389079 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have Firefox installed on her
< 1329601224 591218 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here
< 1329601246 944422 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's taking a while
< 1329601254 621731 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Ctrl-Cs
< 1329601283 817918 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's the fact that that nick change was lost that caused the quit to be lost.
< 1329601288 732499 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It somehow broke in its nick tracking.
< 1329601306 521633 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What if I just implement that sortable-and-filterable-by-computational-class-and-implementation-status-and-so-on automatically-updated language list, and then categorise every uncategorised page on the wiki?
< 1329601366 256816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: aha
< 1329601406 316144 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, that's like Christmas.
< 1329601415 308828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i suppose that would be nice, although i've sometimes been thinking the language list should allow short descriptions...
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< 1329601441 146409 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It could quote the first sentence as the second line of each "row".
< 1329601446 665619 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps togglable.)
< 1329601479 826031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well
< 1329601493 533554 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How is that "oh well" that's like the bestest thing ever.
< 1329601530 25337 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'(
< 1329601564 179245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a limited capability for awe, sorry
< 1329601609 667015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure it's been deteriorating lately.
< 1329601626 597400 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would also make you lutefisk.
< 1329601755 340426 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU EVEN A NORWEGIAN HOW CAN YOU NOT REACT TO THAT
< 1329601795 567318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to force me to give opinions decreases the probability of succeeding by at least 90%.
< 1329601811 480114 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lutefisk-hater. :(
< 1329601931 641136 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to sleep soon.
< 1329601938 26812 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before esolangs.org even points properly :(
< 1329603216 264247 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/John_Horton_Conway grrr this should use an interwiki
< 1329603303 975542 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: god nit
< 1329603304 559510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: if you mean [[Wikipedia:*]] links, i dislike the fact they look like local links rather than external ones
< 1329603313 272455 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "wikipedia" lowercase
< 1329603324 566060 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't care if you don't like it :P especially since they _do_ display differently
< 1329603328 792635 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile
< 1329603329 288310 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god nit
< 1329603384 997651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was pretty sure they didn't last i checked.
< 1329603408 906525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in the latest mw versions...
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< 1329603568 537479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh the new pages list cannot give more than the first 7 new pages :(
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< 1329603753 361260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell i just looked at the [[wikipedia:complex number]] you added to Excela and it _does_ show identical to a local link.  i hope that has changed in recent versions then.
< 1329603753 691895 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329603756 649868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh
< 1329603762 289181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott i just looked at the [[wikipedia:complex number]] you added to Excela and it _does_ show identical to a local link.  i hope that has changed in recent versions then.
< 1329603762 610113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1329603771 483708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nick i
< 1329603771 797844 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: dice dict
< 1329603774 432219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's a slightly different shade of blue, IIRC
< 1329603902 512614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather insignificantly so.  also it doesn't change color when visited, which is blasphemy.
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< 1329604571 931991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of a "roses are red" poem waiting in the default blue/purple/red link colours.
< 1329604706 399331 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadlinks are red, new content is blue, all my links are purple; I've read it all thru.
< 1329604732 201050 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1329604735 230784 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1329604743 114942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1329604786 791578 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hydroelectric power
< 1329604972 246205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What about just something like f(x) = {x+1 if floor(x) is even; x-1 otherwise} and its obvious relatives? 
< 1329605022 31078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh
< 1329605063 75938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: E was looking for involutions, I think. (I didn't really read much of the surroundings.)
< 1329605431 744464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm basically you can divide R into infinitely many intervals and treat all interiors as separate copies of R
< 1329605526 3242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for other obvious relatives)
< 1329605746 126184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sort-of-like-that relative would be, I think, f(x) = { x, if x is integer; floor(x)+1-(x-floor(x)) otherwise }. (I assume the one that'd just have the "otherwise" case and try to "flip" the whole [k,k+1)-for-integer-k intervals might hit some problems.)
< 1329605921 136885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and something more obviously global: if g is any homeomorphism then g . f . g^{-1} is another function of this type
< 1329605961 469860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here like reading court transcripts where the judge is pointing out how absurd a lawsuit is? http://www.groklaw.net/pdf3/OraGoogle-719-5.pdf
< 1329605998 685783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from Apple v. Motorola, where Apple are talking about how they allege that Motorola infringed a patent for detecting whether the user is trying to swipe vertically on a touchscreen or not
< 1329606020 750876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the judge is trying to point out that it doesn't really make sense to claim damages from that as the infringement isn't likely to make differences to sales either way
< 1329606218 877595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that method btw gives a large class of functions that are continuous everywhere, not just almost
< 1329606304 275403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well you have to start with something like f(x) = -x
< 1329606610 613660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be interested in an interesting example. (Which is almost a tautology, I suppose.)
< 1329606673 781823 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What're you doing?
< 1329606764 852757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g(x) = x^3, er no that just gives -x back...
< 1329606881 583617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: R -> R involutions that are continuous almost everywhere, and also something else than f(x) = +-x and f(x) = { 0, if x = 0; +-k/x otherwise }, was the original question.
< 1329606892 692425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g(x) = (x+1)^3  gives  (2 - x^(1/3))^3
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< 1329607139 889255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's some transcendental homeomorphism...
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< 1329607533 95875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot recall any particularly nice ones though
< 1329607591 46791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Values of x < 0 of that are complex.
< 1329607622 438670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Claims WA.
< 1329607624 715938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is weird.
< 1329607642 292652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well it's not taking the real branch, then...
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< 1329607676 439026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems so, but I don't see why, since it is doing a single cube root.
< 1329607689 407922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd sort of assume that if you had to pick one.
< 1329607690 313142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exp(-exp(x)) maps R to (0,1), where you can use something like sin x / sin 1, then move back with ln(-ln(x))
< 1329607731 771508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's just the lowest-angle root that it chooses.
< 1329607746 20139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the "first" in that sense.
< 1329607777 668872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it says (-1)^(1/3) is e^(i*pi/3).
< 1329607825 885505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, also the mind-bending new thing about W|A was that you can now also pay $5/month to use it, if you want.
< 1329607844 221632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolfram|Alpha Pro gives you a whole new way to interact with Wolfram|Alpha—and immediate access to new, more personal, computational knowledge. Introductory price, only $4.99/month."
< 1329607848 302121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's a free trial.
< 1329607869 890523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the "next big step" equals money.
< 1329607936 513744 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm sure there's some transcendental homeomorphism...
< 1329607947 308865 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Transcendental homeomorphisms, maaan.
< 1329607953 460800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, okay, it also lets you upload files now. Then it does stuff to them.)
< 1329607957 585136 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are transcendental homeomorphisms anyway.
< 1329607971 838710 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait homeomorphisms on R are just continuous bijections aren't they.
< 1329608086 74457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1329608121 153706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the continuity of the inverse is automatic in this case, iirc)
< 1329608185 777090 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see a trivial proof by vague diagram, which I understand is the standard in topology.
< 1329608243 63742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for R^n it isn't quite so trivial, but still true by the invariance of domain theorem.
< 1329608250 144055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I can't figure out how to get the real branch. There's some obsoleted Miscellaneous`RealOnly` package, and the "usual solution" (according to some forum guy) of DeleteCases[Solve[x^3 == n, x], { Rule[_, _Complex] }, 2] (how obvious).
< 1329608294 155723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy.
< 1329608326 285893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't even return a number but some symbolic { x ->  } list. And anyway W|A is not quite Mathematica.
< 1329608389 530753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: for R it might help to realize these functions have to be monotonic
< 1329608403 656781 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's the gist of the proof by vague diagram.
< 1329608430 571917 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The vague diagram is two axes with a wavy diagonal line.
< 1329608500 547835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "solve x^3 = -1, reals" works, but if I add "reals" it just finds "x = 8" because that solves (2 - x^(1/3))^3 = 0. If I explicitly add also "plot", the cube root reverts to the usual one.
< 1329608513 564216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this is computational knowledge, I don't think I want any part of it.
< 1329608549 468787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "we know better than you what you mean" knowledge
< 1329608566 103871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it surrounds us all.
< 1329608570 723133 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what're you trying to plot?
< 1329608584 976712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 - x^(1/3))^3
< 1329608605 195553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, but with x^(1/3) returning the real (negative) result for x < 0.
< 1329608638 861886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: something like sgn(x)*(abs(x))^(1/3), perhaps?
< 1329608663 469976 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Clever, it works.
< 1329608685 415531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay
< 1329608726 831220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get one "successfully cheated at W|A" point.
< 1329608739 101441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate
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< 1329608783 696172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I tried to click on the small "enable interactivity" icon, but that's a "Pro" feature.
< 1329608850 649408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you put in your $5 you get to choose a color scheme.
< 1329608881 75429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll buy a site license at the university.
< 1329608902 973523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use this soft keyboard to input mathematical and other symbols to make your formulas look just the way they do in books."
< 1329608911 923362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine, just the way they do in books.
< 1329608997 405855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an example someone's written "∫ sin(2 π θ) / (cos(π θ) + 2)". (I used the rather cheaper character map dealie.)
< 1329609034 868966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the soft keyboard lemon or almond taste?
< 1329609126 523407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this "tones.wolfram.com".
< 1329609132 135283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's "a new kind of music".
< 1329609157 908222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote intermittantly
< 1329609158 263743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sclv says: You have a problem and think "I'll use a hash function." Now you have intermittantly colliding problems.
< 1329609160 842950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's when you play back 1D CA logs.
< 1329609176 491431 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/
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