< 1329696192 327314 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329696333 900712 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DD39.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329696632 443091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow2 WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696632 732590 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█ ...too much output! < 1329696635 212846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696635 414162 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2W3A4K5E6 7U8P9 2A3L4A5N6 7D8I9P2E3R4T < 1329696643 59377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow2 WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696643 345700 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█7█5█4█13█6█0█15█14█1█2█12█11█10█3█9█8█ ...too much output! < 1329696645 883816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696646 70195 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :23W4A5K6E7 8U9P2 3A4L5A6N7 8D9I2P3E4R5T < 1329696693 495764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696693 682184 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2W3A4K5E6 7U8P9 2A3L4A5N6 7D8I9P2E3R4T < 1329696715 732917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1329696725 836167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smells a zero-width space < 1329696776 927398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm < 1329696780 115494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow WAKE UP ALAN DIPERT < 1329696780 302456 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2W3A4K5E6 7U8P9 2A3L4A5N6 7D8I9P2E3R4T < 1329696790 972564 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my computer zero width spaces are visible and I cannot see it this time < 1329696804 743613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in mine, in elliott's last one < 1329696821 112938 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: In elliott's last one of what? < 1329696859 947746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1329696882 448335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was a bold, duh < 1329696896 220627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1329696919 139933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something zero width, anyway < 1329696961 999577 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's an Alan Dipert? < 1329696971 482647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ALAN DIPERT < 1329696977 547113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALAN DIPERT is the owner of ESOLANGS.ORG. < 1329696993 484259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :His name is written in all-caps as of A FEW HOURS AGO. < 1329696998 910397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has been sleeping for TWO DAYS. < 1329697137 930976 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has he been sleeping for two days? < 1329697157 983093 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tech Name:Alan Dipert < 1329697171 11471 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you emailed ALAN DIPERT then it got to the wrong person. < 1329697175 174369 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want Alan Dipert. < 1329697181 114236 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Registrant Name:Alan Dipert < 1329697212 31419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1329697219 336485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a limitation of the DNS system or something. < 1329697297 207921 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1329697329 131052 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that limited old Domain Name DNS System < 1329697365 156419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Only morons care about RAS syndrome. < 1329697368 109037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not a moron, are you? < 1329697386 369566 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I? < 1329697392 567457 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's a moron, I think. < 1329697502 687783 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is getting a mite impatient. < 1329697506 15530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soon it will be mighty impatient. < 1329697582 704126 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow Royal Rainbow! < 1329697582 891243 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2R3o4y5a6l7 8R9a2i3n4b5o6w7! < 1329697643 441712 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329697837 63893 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIPERT GOD DAMMIT < 1329697978 548538 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIPERT? < 1329697989 698524 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dipert < 1329697992 127574 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the guy who runs esolangs.org? < 1329698026 759885 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Your presence is missed in other IRC channels. < 1329698034 99120 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is quite a vacuum. < 1329698174 118861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: Not runs. < 1329698175 903421 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just owns the domain. < 1329698184 672283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official domain is technically esoteric.voxelperfect.net. < 1329698195 688435 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other is... ? < 1329698196 762356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_Portal#Site_move_.2F_wiki_read-only for why I'm waiting for his response. < 1329698199 35460 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MALWARE? < 1329698205 432947 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, esolangs.org is an alternate domain. < 1329698212 671248 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1329698355 573223 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329698568 406405 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329698584 505835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am getting reaaaaaaaaaally impatient. < 1329699177 364475 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U impatient? < 1329699216 472486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should be ashamed of yourself. < 1329699253 547386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U SO ANGRY < 1329699260 218750 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U MAD? < 1329699309 914887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Please kick pir^2 & yourself. < 1329699338 913973 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1329699365 852294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is self-evident. < 1329699450 351260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is so axiomatically minded < 1329699469 607437 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously didn't mean it in a trolling way... < 1329699535 690003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trolling to contribute lowering the signal/noise ratio below even reddit's with memes that stopped being entertaining years ago. :( < 1329699839 801338 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stopped being entertaining before they existed" < 1329699897 24426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was being charitable. < 1329699915 408266 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit really needs a meme filter. < 1329699916 69571 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much money do you need us to donate? < 1329699919 637382 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a spam filter, a meme filter. < 1329699925 618876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, derivative nonsense like that will only drive people away. And it has. < 1329700149 283181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: *PARTING PUN PREEMPTIVELY PURGED* < 1329700253 308079 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-150-108.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329700400 231179 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-157-8.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329700512 43878 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-023-162.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329700691 297793 :cheater!~cheater@dslb-084-057-000-077.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1329701476 743966 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-all 50 < 1329701485 428686 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :trohiga kop thro machah blaceed adverdinal prigh pentur gra cawtion sine reasura vill umable enr renefter saccinquir akttapt lihova trucklin vena hally fraef cloni zakul < 1329701611 626938 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find the default eng-1M gives more "normal" words. < 1329701627 180759 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :because eng-all is basically a everything and the kitchen sink of "English" < 1329701651 548685 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :but trucklin is awesome. < 1329701666 241295 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whatcha doin', Billy-Joe?" < 1329701669 368297 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'mma trucklin'." < 1329701682 776951 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :cawtion enr I'm trucklin' < 1329701706 605114 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAWTION: ZAKUL < 1329701847 454784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIPEEEEEERT < 1329701894 422792 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-145-166.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329701951 393759 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :diiiiiiipert < 1329702074 189826 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-150-108.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329702089 167442 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M 50 < 1329702094 597408 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :pounda psychau eyeri accenaglit bosable parkci tana hoenefy idency buch angt carne gghen min dilt verlenson magistane khea unpot ukk emporter hip perit ther ger < 1329702364 573315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 haha, wow, you chastised an /FSF board member/ for copyvios on Esolang < 1329702364 797109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329702387 764224 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 on the WMF advisory board, too < 1329702388 4501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329702426 631805 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!what? < 1329702466 910172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/User_talk:18.85.1.11 < 1329702521 226473 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :18.85.1.11 "fsf board member" < 1329702587 416882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: see user contribs < 1329702634 786214 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They at least claim to be < 1329702656 195765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm sure you'll find a corresponding Wikipedia revision from the corresponding user. < 1329702710 467862 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION o.Os at the number of edits and stops feeling like searcing\ < 1329702712 234937 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :searhcing < 1329702820 124331 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION narrows down to a month < 1329702849 653255 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brainfuck&diff=prev&oldid=123709291 < 1329702852 326802 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks it < 1329702972 675103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, I removed the list of BrainFuck compilers and tried to move them over to the EsoLangs wiki" < 1329702982 850666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :StOp ThAt YoU FuCk FaCe < 1329703071 929697 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329703150 704465 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally I have achieved Illithid Savant prestige class in the game. < 1329703169 804240 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is my own variant of the published class) < 1329703212 195474 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait who? < 1329703226 65240 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fsf board member" and "on the WMF advisory board" = ? < 1329703239 480469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[esolang:User:18.85.1.11]] < 1329703249 562661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Mako_Hill < 1329703304 976293 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1329703356 233476 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1329703368 768370 :nys!~nys@blk-215-85-41.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1329703383 743841 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this? < 1329703423 332469 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is what < 1329703431 400072 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is this < 1329703435 598441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[esolang:User:18.85.1.11]] = [[wikipedia:Benjamin Mako Hill]], was what I was saying. < 1329703623 671884 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. Now I understand. < 1329703751 464554 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329704125 988876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: You live in North Carolina, right? Wake up ALAN DIPERT. < 1329704129 599052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Everyone lives in North Carolina.) < 1329704131 28536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1329704132 265733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pikhq: < 1329704134 429983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, you know, you too. < 1329704177 891278 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone lives in North Carolina, except /you/ < 1329704201 13536 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329704314 283055 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the Finnish people here < 1329704376 666542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finnish < 1329704378 235218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1329704379 454165 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1329704388 874935 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1329704389 75544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1329704389 266755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? finland < 1329704394 831579 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1329704397 175928 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lives in North Carolifraonfiaranina < 1329704398 512429 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1329704401 491149 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm a good 6 hour flight from there. < 1329704406 564205 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1329704406 782191 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is a European country. There are two people in Finland, and at least five of them are in this channel. Corun drives the bus. < 1329704419 93439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's not long. < 1329704423 684540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fly over there and wake up THE ALAN DIPERT. < 1329704426 316608 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He has a THE now.) < 1329704437 742369 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it part of the name? < 1329704452 933010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1329704475 29726 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The THE ALAN DIPERT. < 1329704509 831391 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm roughly 2,000 miles away. < 1329704511 970422 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alan.dipert.org/ ? < 1329704515 223116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: That's nearer than I. < 1329704516 718088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: Yes. < 1329704517 997951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: * < 1329704533 153786 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :autocomplete fail? < 1329704543 652148 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that's still like asking you to take a trip to Moscow. :P < 1329704561 353228 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Would you take a trip to Moscow? < 1329704565 751032 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1329704577 166785 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you could meet DIPERT < 1329704578 734601 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to ask pikhq to wake up the THE ALAN DIPERT. < 1329704589 603330 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, that's a *very* analogous distance. < 1329704596 799634 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are roughly 2000 miles from Moscow. < 1329704598 323756 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'm farther from North Carolina than pikhq is! < 1329704607 680188 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :By real distance, if not by edit distance. < 1329704639 355103 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'll go to Moscow if you go and wake up THE ALAN DIPERT. < 1329704662 575341 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What if I do it? < 1329704673 210798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that works too. < 1329704720 195542 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. I'll wake up THE ALAN DIPERT by using psychic powers. < 1329704727 445920 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He'll be awake within a few days at most. < 1329704733 813912 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :After he wakes up, you go to Moscow. < 1329704769 942008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'll go to Moscow in the same sense that you're using psychic powers. < 1329704772 653477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, not. < 1329704784 704259 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I won't use psychic powers. < 1329704790 743422 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll use causal powers, though. < 1329704795 987792 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like monochrom's purpose. < 1329704797 329138 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'll go to Moscow in the same sense that you're using causal powers. < 1329704800 110304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is to say, indirectly. < 1329704805 337180 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else will go to Moscow instead. < 1329704823 59218 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329704831 168941 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Jeeze, the US is huge relative to EU country sizes. < 1329704841 501351 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you need to wake him up anyway? < 1329704851 988572 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me to go to my nation's capital is analogous to an Englishman going to Moscow. < 1329704859 143564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: So that he repoints esolangs.org. < 1329704866 297121 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to... ? < 1329704908 146860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My server. See http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Esolang_talk:Community_Portal#Site_move_.2F_wiki_read-only as I linked previously. < 1329705032 69329 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I had no idea ehird was the same person as you < 1329705091 381116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on, isn't it obvious? We're both assholes. < 1329705124 974355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where've you seen ehird, anyway? The wiki?) < 1329705145 413667 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1329705165 678743 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw ehird on IRC. < 1329705193 6380 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you User:Elliott too? < 1329705551 179649 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :const < 1329706156 939071 :TeruFSX!~quassel@63-226-178-185.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329706413 642004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: Hm? Yes. < 1329706417 701371 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm far too many people. < 1329706421 645249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Was I even stupider? < 1329706564 42796 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-39.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329706564 444523 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-39.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329706564 631220 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329706577 272010 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :<~doodle> ruby/python > java > C < 1329706592 474176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : <~doodle> ruby/python > java > C < 1329706605 31898 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric : <~doodle> ruby/python > java > C < 1329706611 818500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :< pir^2> <~doodle> ruby/python > java > C < 1329706651 536616 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby is not so bad. i don't hate ruby very much. < 1329706710 136040 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION info ^doodle < 1329706713 769873 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1329706717 160628 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant /ns < 1329706729 612401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whois pir^2 < 1329706733 605619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whois johngalt < 1329706747 724499 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION msg lambdabot @admin + elliott < 1329706762 108925 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329706783 775946 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sql > ruby/python > java > C < 1329706798 946780 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1329706805 695990 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL isn't even Turing-complete < 1329706816 357783 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least most kinds of sql < 1329706821 467143 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good language aren't Turing-complete. < 1329706822 294660 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What? < 1329706827 903123 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm already a lambdabot admin. < 1329706831 631308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cale made me one after I made a joke. < 1329706831 818428 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are? < 1329706833 255335 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1329706834 662058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. < 1329706840 60697 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1329706843 96691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, put it back. < 1329706849 372971 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would stick with SQL isn't even Turing-complete, and disregard at least most kinds of sql < 1329706852 813757 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I didn't check before doing it. < 1329706858 146746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'll never know if you really were one. < 1329706859 304064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can find a cite if you want. < 1329706861 327550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But add me back. < 1329706864 114132 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Were you really one? < 1329706866 142955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1329706867 650771 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, well. < 1329706870 35102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1329706876 243198 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is *not* a real lambdabot admin. < 1329706884 273129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:20:42 elliott: you should have admin privileges now... < 1329706887 240081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/haskell/12.02.12 < 1329706890 402788 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i apperciate your gricean maxims < 1329706965 544820 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is that the same as #haskell op privileges? < 1329706971 770481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1329706972 78837 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULE #haskell WITH AN IRON FIST < 1329706977 920734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@flush < 1329706980 962714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do that now. < 1329706981 149548 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least A COOPER FIST < 1329706989 115856 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also read anyone's @messages. < 1329706992 109520 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :COPPER? < 1329706992 362451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously? < 1329706998 138587 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pir^2: actually i was trolling because of C being at the bottom of the pile < 1329706999 67096 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so. < 1329707004 27116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not. But I'll check. < 1329707033 220306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages? clear-messages < 1329707034 202668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems not. < 1329707042 860402 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1329707054 334368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@messages test" just returns the standard response, so it's not an argument or anything. < 1329707071 84046 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION . o O ( C > java > ruby/python ) < 1329707095 61565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FSVO Java, as they say. < 1329707109 943027 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: @print-notices < 1329707118 586558 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@print-notices < 1329707118 773178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1329707127 430835 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1329707169 927137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not going to use that. < 1329707171 187989 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :java > [...] > ruby/python > sql > C < 1329707188 360540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually that really irks me, I think I'll write my own @tell bot. < 1329707203 528860 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nazi-on < 1329707203 715307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi engaged. < 1329707207 119111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh < 1329707209 979401 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woner what that'll do. < 1329707210 407082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskel < 1329707211 90866 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :teh < 1329707245 248434 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing i gues < 1329707250 591735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tset < 1329707252 712835 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the name of that language where you can have loops but you must specify the maximum number of iterations? (well, one of them) < 1329707255 904923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you tolde today? < 1329707264 617050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It *should* be doing something, going by the source < 1329707279 945919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you in this estbalishment? < 1329707291 644907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably aspell isn't installed. < 1329707295 697071 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@nazi-off < 1329707295 887082 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged. < 1329707305 440943 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen-on < 1329707305 627516 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1329707339 724478 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@vixen < 1329707342 706447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't try to take on a new personality; it doesn't work. < 1329707381 287852 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you there? < 1329707396 773290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 5 AM in Finland. < 1329707404 465317 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? :| < 1329707407 745096 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@url-on < 1329707407 931444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1329707430 156183 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should probably un@admin me before I do something bad. < 1329707440 357316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1329707442 627909 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite < 1329707442 814677 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say again? < 1329707445 117846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@naxi-off < 1329707445 335933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spelling nazi disengaged. < 1329707445 812102 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1329707449 364215 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elite what? < 1329707449 551091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|-|at? < 1329707453 942369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@spell asdjasd < 1329707455 564012 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1329707457 93726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@spell How are teh ruinations < 1329707460 333755 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help nazi < 1329707460 616864 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1329707461 292999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help spell < 1329707461 626107 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spell . Show spelling of word < 1329707464 622128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@spell siht < 1329707469 174463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's broken. < 1329707556 693124 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You're going to make an @tell bot like you made a logging bot? < 1329707560 588127 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \x -> x app const < 1329707560 774760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip ($ app) const < 1329707577 145134 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did write a log bot once, though! < 1329707588 546761 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it wise for elliott to be an admin? < 1329707595 625430 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He could do unhird-of damage. < 1329707626 691053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Har har har shut up. < 1329707639 368473 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ap < 1329707640 598609 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doubts "Hird" is elliott's real last name anyway. < 1329707648 298775 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For that matter, I doubt that "Elliott" is your name. < 1329707670 586970 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but you assumed from context that ehird implied it was his real last name :> < 1329707681 887082 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1329707694 243417 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in his /whois. < 1329707698 19684 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329707707 446644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the FAKENAME field. < 1329707737 161003 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1329707780 662914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't know if you know this, but flowers aren't real. < 1329707792 681501 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which flowers do you mean? < 1329707798 213995 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: I don't know if you know this, but flower's arent real. < 1329707823 196706 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you saying you're a flower? < 1329707840 39858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, obviously. < 1329707852 418160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know it's impossible to breathe in the atmosphere? < 1329707865 451853 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which atomsphere do you mean? < 1329707875 887631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth's. < 1329707897 784210 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the quickest way to bring this to a closure may be to look at why you doubt it's his real name :P < 1329707898 896593 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many Earth's does it take to change a light bulb. < 1329707906 440765 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: ? < 1329707913 564247 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you don't actually doubt it in the first place.. and you're just kidding < 1329707932 718036 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt he doubts it. < 1329707937 97997 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of doubt it. < 1329707966 746017 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That is because of the pollution, isn't it? < 1329707989 718439 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i have been in chatrooms which produce paranoia < 1329707995 525551 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this isn't one < 1329708005 27594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes! Exactly. Definitely. < 1329708486 301990 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1329708594 373069 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: are they anything like that other guy's chatrooms < 1329708630 64963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: have you played paranoia? < 1329709957 575355 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you paranoid? < 1329709997 731587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: which other guy's < 1329710188 253654 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that other guy's < 1329710195 709255 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1329710248 791483 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're playing Paranoia? < 1329710259 124159 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or am I not cleared to know that? < 1329710492 516013 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Victor, Victor Alpha, zinc's got wind of Project Octogon, request immediate termination. < 1329710536 135983 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres something on the web which says "2006-05-11 i'm now part of an international band known simply as rawk band. we were founded a couple of days ago by mr. elliott hird of hexham, england, and we're..." < 1329710562 39920 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1329710567 960659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, stop Googling me. < 1329710575 539967 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: DO WANT URL < 1329710581 280223 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh honestly. < 1329710589 386625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1329710595 173723 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap < 1329710603 486705 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(format nil "Why am I learning Common Lisp?") < 1329710603 673452 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played into shachaf's hands < 1329710613 142788 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1329710617 280412 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1329710647 240251 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't blame him.. it was my weirdness < 1329710677 60856 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :#1 fan club of the best rock band in all of south-central Northumberland, Rawk Band! | Best for direct log access , 10 year of experience and guarantee quality. See httP://64.62.173.65/%49%27/.%2E/lo%67s/_esoteri%63/#THIS_IS_NOT_A_SCAM | Waiting for DIPERT < 1329711121 439692 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329712635 637056 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329712770 954551 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329713326 719549 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rawk Band? < 1329713339 498326 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, elliott's band < 1329713727 623099 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott knows how to rawk. < 1329713763 43833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to hear him rawk < 1329713825 49460 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Between a rawk and a hard place. < 1329715094 315983 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329715824 604857 :pir^2!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329717521 995178 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-115-94.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329717667 410558 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-145-166.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329717827 332437 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1329717909 238869 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1329718037 150968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :houhu houhu < 1329718049 151738 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bump on the head on the head on the heaaaaaaad < 1329718445 969992 :ILiketoExist!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329718476 57508 :ILiketoExist!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the heaaad < 1329718510 316140 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi pi < 1329718516 463798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to exist too < 1329718863 350841 :kmc!~keegan@c-98-216-51-47.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329718934 797594 :cswords_!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329719126 127602 :cswords!~cswords@c-98-223-234-80.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1329719777 317003 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-51.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329719961 378908 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-115-94.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329721026 467251 :ILiketoExist!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :ILiketoSleep < 1329721387 494092 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-122-51.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329721546 285382 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1329721900 211734 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-53.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329723864 119796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott Considered registering & promoting e.g. esohunks.org instead if you can't get esolangs.org? < 1329723864 306683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329724838 371441 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: Terminal is out of heart-shape paper, sorry! < 1329727971 66373 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott That would make for a strange gay porn site. < 1329727971 252717 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329728420 981269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329729417 139219 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329729435 541957 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1329729457 419549 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the topic, I prefer Free Root < 1329730892 315519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329730977 837381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329732273 696188 :myndzi!~myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329732273 696357 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1329732297 933040 :myndzi!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329733117 75566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lambdabot < 1329733117 276571 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1329733119 787802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1329733119 974583 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 8h 32m 30s ago: haha, wow, you chastised an /FSF board member/ for copyvios on Esolang < 1329733120 161335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 8h 32m 6s ago: on the WMF advisory board, too < 1329734394 940802 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329734423 464093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1329734425 103321 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1329735104 603138 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't mean to cause such mayhem < 1329735828 842608 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1329736092 157764 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-023-162.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1329736178 773392 :cheater_!~cheater@dslb-084-057-023-162.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329736334 925412 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear god I'm in 6 channels < 1329736566 678428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: only 6? < 1329736578 622308 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :7! < 1329736584 304022 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, 6 < 1329736604 927662 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is more than I have ever been in before! < 1329736812 423891 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm in 8! < 1329736817 838744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm currently in 11 channels and 1 query, this is about typical for me < 1329736831 416974 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm normally in 2-4 < 1329736838 842191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although queries are stateless, so that actually means I simply have the query tab open) < 1329737881 998123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am in 17 channels and typically reach around 30-40 queries before i start closing repeats or reboot irssi < 1329737907 782549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't automatically merge duplicate queries? < 1329738004 352882 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume quintopia is not having identical conversations. < 1329738009 50842 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. if someone nicks to nickA and later contacts me as nickB, it starts a new query < 1329738023 237363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and never merges them even if they nickA again < 1329738032 258580 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is annoying, by the way. < 1329738052 701781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about autoclosing inactive query windows? < 1329738076 716820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Of course, on the system I administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!! < 1329738077 383689 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the downside of that is that there are a few queries i always want open < 1329738085 817388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION somehow feels that this is a bad idea < 1329738093 946466 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i talk to certain people often enough i want query-number-permanence < 1329738096 883431 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1329738158 399963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, most people dont nick around much, so its usually only 2 or 3 duplicates < 1329738329 865533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen that ed thing before. < 1329738338 475744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it from that "ed is the standard text editor" document? < 1329738340 492694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that doesn't surprise me < 1329738352 176743 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The solution is obviously to use channels instead of /queries. < 1329738358 186069 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :n^2 channels. < 1329738369 465194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html < 1329738381 296442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not a very gnu joke; in fact, it's rather old. < 1329738391 968087 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a gnu joke? < 1329738410 569474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, based on the URL I guess it *is* a gnu joke. < 1329738440 923976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the g in gnu is sometimes pronounced silently < 1329738453 783669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although when it's referring to the FSF's main coding project, I think it's pronounced < 1329738489 93676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it is pronounced as one syllable with a hard g, like “grew” but with the letter “n” instead of “r”." < 1329738505 438119 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google gnu song < 1329738507 564552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqgPyqyh4X4 < 1329738507 758435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Flanders And Swann - The Gnu Song - YouTube < 1329738601 346299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also a recording of RMS saying "GNU". (And Torvalds saying "Linux"; I recall downloading that one from ftp.funet.fi:/pub/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus/SillySounds/ long ago.) < 1329738639 303900 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1329738668 841928 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a recording of Michael Flanders saying "gnu". < 1329738684 447321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, a recording of Ballmer trying to pronounce it would probalby be funnier < 1329738703 843518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :played over and over with a techno backing track < 1329738738 929819 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty good. I daresay it's probably among the better recordings of people saying "gnu". < 1329738752 222195 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sorry, lol - i guess i shudnt complain - im even worse most of the time lol ;)" < 1329739332 645197 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329739400 479348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that: "Forth is a Gift. Those who outgrow the Gift of Forth have lost the ablity to dream the Dream, to realize their nature as created in the Image and Likeness." < 1329739418 988927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also TSA security checkpoints are involved somehow.) < 1329739497 318303 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, drama in today's Gunnerkrigg Court! < 1329739782 178737 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a chapter ending. How coincidental. < 1329742409 51891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1329742680 980902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2012-02-20.txt shows for me with no newlines < 1329742842 731131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason Chrome insists on downloading it instead of showing it; but it has newlines when I inspect the downloaded file. < 1329742902 481967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though of course plaintext logs are so last decamillennium compared to the formatted version. < 1329743019 185874 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1329743019 372614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1329743025 167715 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1329743062 68797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh view source looks reasonable < 1329743248 277503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @tell ais523 haha, wow, you chastised an /FSF board member/ for copyvios on Esolang < 1329743264 30787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has elliott decided to read through the entire wiki history or something... < 1329743366 734705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think he's just trying to memorize the database dump in case of a disk crash or something. < 1329743399 604480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1329743407 98522 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott TODO: memorize the Esolang database dump, eat the original file. < 1329743407 285365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1329743423 24866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that what spies do? < 1329743431 394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1329743452 121294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then other spies lace the files with polonium to trap them. < 1329743696 305763 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1D6FA.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329743859 543395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly notes that the view source actually has syntax coloring < 1329743911 986327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's of course because looks like an .*ml tag < 1329743995 267723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf: I'm already a lambdabot admin. < 1329744012 102185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recent increase in power is somewhat disturbing. < 1329744050 231550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with exponential growth, he might have taken over the world by december. < 1329744054 809396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*may < 1329744083 961687 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the most pedantic of pedants would have called you out for that < 1329744111 769802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trivia of the day: In William Gibson's book Neuromancer, there's an organization watching over AIs; they're called the "Turing cops". The Finnish translation of the book translates that to "Torinon kytät", lit. "cops of Torino", after the Italian city of Torino (Turin). < 1329744134 379748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OCaml has tags? < 1329744157 421404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing extends to a couple of other terms, like the "Turing registry" (a list of AIs, indexed by code name), which is turned into the "registry of Torino". < 1329744161 702394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'd say FAIL, but that would be another meme for elliott to punish me for when he becomes overlord. < 1329744173 852544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ais523 -----### < 1329744212 431327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the Finnish translation first, and that thing sort-of baffled me, I was just thinking "well maybe they've got headquarters in Torino". < 1329744248 814842 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1329744294 989430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://www.aikakone.org/arkisto/arvostelut/k91neurovelho.htm -- J^3 Kasvi has commented on it, too. < 1329744316 883629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In 1992.) < 1329744343 725553 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :J³ < 1329744785 404148 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1329745109 585150 :nooga!~nooga@ip-46-250-173-30.ip.maverick.com.pl QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1329745580 644746 :kallisti!~eris@h200.20.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329745581 187645 :kallisti!~eris@h200.20.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1329745581 374382 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1329746171 709213 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1329746336 766989 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1329746913 116095 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1329747042 993760 :ILiketoSleep!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :ILiketoExist < 1329747268 667153 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1329747787 83694 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329748325 986867 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1329748418 566448 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-93.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329748427 157306 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-195-251.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1329749375 328818 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1329749440 199085 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329750040 769046 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly south-east England. Being in a drought. < 1329750264 129626 :Nisstyre!~yours@c-208-90-102-250.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329750363 674101 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1329750413 16571 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329751887 549755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329752604 966091 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329752787 217402 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1329752834 189099 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1329752842 208775 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1329752844 295268 :Frooxius_!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz NICK :Frooxius < 1329753563 326858 :kallisti!~eris@gate-20.spsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329753563 796259 :kallisti!~eris@gate-20.spsu.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1329753563 982970 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1329753637 12541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1329753760 109676 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb.happy() = true < 1329753822 861374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329753892 329509 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame zzo38 for this. < 1329754255 813619 :ILiketoExist!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is an object? < 1329754292 982230 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I object to that notion < 1329755978 948750 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :RELATED: What is the male equivalent of the term "courtesan"? < 1329756056 440135 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :courtier? < 1329756252 162946 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, probably. < 1329757429 922003 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329757835 825318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329757920 42364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Courtyard. < 1329757929 896496 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course! < 1329757937 999651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly court-martial if it's a really manly man. < 1329758002 593912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a male concubine is a conspherick. < 1329758448 677767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Waitwhat, 9/11 had only 3000 deaths? < 1329758460 119265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd always thought it was an order of magnitude more. < 1329758474 906890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd remembered it as being between 5000 and 10000 < 1329758481 991351 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329758484 831091 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was only 3 buildings < 1329758487 739940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so out by half an order of magnitude < 1329758544 459287 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's okay, they're compensating by sending men to the middle east. < 1329758579 392770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the Boston Molasses Disaster is possibly the most tragic tragedy in history. < 1329758599 417832 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was rather bittersweet. < 1329758607 87872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's why,. < 1329758619 236148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's impossible to take seriously. < 1329758654 985972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"21 people were killed... by a sugar production by-product." < 1329759680 516378 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 50 < 1329759687 792122 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :infatur koff filt colt testing ycerado folley pian putting domer cral compier oerheta safe unmaster formisea solie ter sanje dock fareletten blaci admon homal dew < 1329759694 924024 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"testing" X-D < 1329759700 970641 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, there are so many real words here. < 1329759708 186955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not 50. < 1329759722 332682 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colt, testing, putting, safe, dock, dew < 1329759730 20382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pian" is a real Finnish word. (Means "soon".) < 1329759747 491071 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When will `words output the right number of words?" < 1329759749 543957 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PIAN" < 1329759760 822106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And "Koff" is a Finnish beer brand.) < 1329759769 126972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(From Sinebrychoff.) < 1329759781 292956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329759873 838473 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it has a limit of 25. < 1329759885 384732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something new. < 1329759893 355007 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 0 < 1329759898 717427 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheh < 1329759902 814045 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1329759954 45007 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1329759985 344110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep 25 `which words` < 1329759988 180368 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :print generate for 1..min(25, int($ARGV[0]||1)); < 1329760051 936200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 10 < 1329760055 178518 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhyimpiensa tekissämme agronsa kiellisemmillä puhempinä pitukikan onnoilevän kärismustamistyttä västään ikeammenkilta < 1329760328 362340 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, elliott hasn't been back since we became the #1 fans of his band, has 'e. < 1329760416 194974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he's trying to do some sort of Law of the Conservation of Sleep -based thing where he stays asleep in order for the THE ALAN DIPERT to wake up. < 1329760436 883092 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods sagely. < 1329760852 786772 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-2-99-89-70.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: dinnertime < 1329761080 775804 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think, you could write more quiz file for Internet Quiz Engine? And possibly you can help me to suggest how the program for text input should be implement too, if it should be required < 1329761567 32882 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please write more file, do you know that? Any question? < 1329761600 467713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what an inernet quiz engine is, but i know there are plenty of quizzes on the internet already < 1329761713 743685 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine is a program I have written, in C, and can be accessed by following: gopher://zzo38computer.cjb.net:70/1quiz.menu*a < 1329761834 925680 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read documentation to understand how it work, possibly. And yes there are plenty of quizzes on internet already but in my opinion their programs are deficient but bloated < 1329762012 837730 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :To order the quiz files in the index, I used something I once saw in another program, called "pseudo-alphabetical order" which means that the first item on the list is selected at random and then it is in alphabetical order. The start of the alphabetical order is then placed after the last one. < 1329762192 220772 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329762196 494306 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely no registration required! Absolutely no advertisements slowing down your computer and blocking your view! Absolutely no personal information required! Absolutely no time limits! < 1329762266 51880 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Full source codes available! < 1329762359 221068 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are some advantages over other internet quiz programs. < 1329762456 607586 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, if you want to write a new quiz file, try this program see how it works < 1329762755 952351 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-93.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Yeah, 9/11's death toll is about on par with the number of people who have died of silly shit like, say, a vending machine falling on them in the past 10 years. < 1329762776 762489 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, if you're about to turn this into a diatribe about overreactions, you can stop now. < 1329762788 715404 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-93.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that was all I meant to say. < 1329762809 976398 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-93.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can turn it into a diatribe about overreactions if you'd like. < 1329762937 325889 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which quiz programs do you prefer? < 1329763623 77213 :hagb4rd!~perdito@koln-4db4283f.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329764258 251979 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1329764526 197612 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1329764556 319978 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know whether or not FreeDOS boots faster than CP/M? < 1329764614 144773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1329764952 528309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't < 1329764986 758513 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely there are better ultimate showdowns of destiny than FreeDOS vs. CP/M. < 1329764996 829105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeDOS boots pretty quickly if you turn off config.sys and autoexec.bat (around a second on the hardware around when DOS was popular, so much faster on modern hardware), but I don't know how fast CP/M boots < 1329765108 522394 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know how fast FreeDOS boots since I operate a FreeDOS computer at one location. I did turn off some things in the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files, such as mouse drivers and so on. And then other things can be set to speed up too. It is a CRT monitor, and if you turn on monitor and computer at the same time, BBL/Abundance is ready before the picture appears. < 1329765218 7253 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was a somewhat modern computer, initially installed with Ubuntu; I replaced it with FreeDOS.) (BBL/Abundance is very fast even on XT computer, running from floppy disks! So on a far faster and newer computer, and running from hard disks, it will certainly be fast.) < 1329765832 733269 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that computer is still active. It is still being used. < 1329766278 38868 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My D&D character leveled up and earned a prestige cless entirely outside of a session; while at Burger King, the DM decided a probability of meeting requirements before the game started and he has iPhone, and when it is turned sideways it has random number function. < 1329766346 196750 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329766582 253322 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329766609 878090 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this even make much sense to you? < 1329766649 828265 :ILiketoExist!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :PiRSquared17 < 1329766763 624547 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-225-93.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1329767201 197707 :rostayob!~rostayob@dyn1212-140.wlan.ic.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5 < 1329767479 413379 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grows steadily more sceptical of SMBC's ongoing quality. < 1329767563 94834 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329767847 605770 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skeptical? < 1329767881 547845 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pretty sceptical to start with. < 1329767941 722237 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1329768058 521149 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329768182 691478 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1329768220 111873 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-39.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1329768220 368673 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-54-39.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1329768220 555451 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1329768322 239034 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-53.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1329768586 989694 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-138-53.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329769732 387057 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770088 396470 :Gregor!codu@codu.org TOPIC #esoteric :Could all of my potato-measurement needs really be solved‽ | Best for direct log access , 10 year of experience and guarantee quality. See httP://64.62.173.65/%49%27/.%2E/lo%67s/_esoteri%63/#THIS_IS_NOT_A_SCAM | Waiting for DIPERT < 1329770133 212289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770142 277552 :Chef__!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770180 525687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gammelpotetplukking < 1329770206 595532 :Chef___!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770296 492457 :Chef_!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1329770317 66617 :kallisti!~eris@h200.20.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770317 567191 :kallisti!~eris@h200.20.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net QUIT :Changing host < 1329770317 754133 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1329770327 227521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "pian" is a real Finnish word. (Means "soon".) < 1329770337 983985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also real trøndersk, meaning "the girls" < 1329770410 271088 :Chef__!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1329770436 239614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the view source for the logs has better formatting in my browser than the logs themselves normally have < 1329770578 91957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i see now that today's logs are even more broken than i thought, it's missing the nicks altogether, probably because it thinks they are nonexistent html tags < 1329770583 589560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1329770603 854525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's interpreting the whole page as html or something < 1329770691 288615 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about the .txt? < 1329770704 33428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm could this be that IE text/html bug i've heard someone here talk about? < 1329770706 394277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes. < 1329770713 55964 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... IE? < 1329770726 43072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's me who talked about it < 1329770728 898060 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not responsible for your browser being too stupid to understand what text/plain means. < 1329770733 249593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, IE sometimes interprets text/plain as text/html < 1329770739 505248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, text/plain < 1329770744 364154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1329770753 803561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and websites /have/ to deal with that, as it's an XSS bug < 1329770771 276633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, the nick "script" is taken < 1329770778 305083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's "trøndersk"? < 1329770784 673427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say some javascript < 1329770796 555687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: surely you can just say it outright < 1329770802 895062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh < 1329770809 845777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1329770812 890628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now visit the page again < 1329770823 421730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1329770827 236206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that's better < 1329770852 922710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the dialects of the trøndelag counties < 1329770854 27517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual workaround to the bug, btw, is to use a MIME type of text/css for plaintext < 1329770862 316959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though that makes no sense < 1329770866 456362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works in all major browsers < 1329770878 506574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eek that worked < 1329770887 867197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1329770906 423758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You'll make oerjans browser all testy. < 1329770906 610206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what version of IE are you using? < 1329770910 255199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE 8 < 1329770921 469690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also waiting for the img tags. < 1329770946 80618 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1329771014 430465 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1329771015 371261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what about some nonsense? < 1329771018 617267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1329771051 814784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's a shock site isn't it. < 1329771079 210169 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :As shock sites go it's pretty mild, it's just amusing gay porn. < 1329771088 750519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1329771131 40769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR it has a counter of how long you've spent watching it? (I don't want to try the Flash out on this phone-browser.) < 1329771145 153732 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of spins. < 1329771150 271878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1329771153 846334 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :After some arbitrary number it announces that you're officially gay. < 1329771231 682735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what worries me is that my usual logreading habits means i'll be reloading this page tomorrow if i don't remember this... < 1329771245 904191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mean < 1329771246 90798 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1329771272 297113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, is the conclusion "gregor change the mimetype to work around an IE8 bug", or "oerjan use a less buggy browser"? < 1329771280 746148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former. < 1329771303 865246 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MIME type is correct as far as standards are concerned, is there some trick you need to convince IE Garbage Edition of that? < 1329771321 292877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the problem is, you /can't/, text/plain doesn't support any sort of tag < 1329771347 155818 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, exactly? < 1329771361 209368 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Content-type is text/plain. < 1329771367 332340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed in IE9, apparently < 1329771432 114239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a search, apparently you can use content-disposition:attachment as a workaround, but ofc that prevents anyone else viewing it in their browser < 1329771458 677873 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1329771468 826043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also apparently a registry key you can use to fix IE's behaviour, as an oerjan-side workaround < 1329771524 585890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: aha, SO have a fix that's apparently non-destructive and works on IE too; set content-disposition to inline (the default), but /also/ provide a filename that ends .txt in it < 1329771551 701428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all browsers but IE will ignore the filename < 1329771581 808203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this url already ends in .txt ... < 1329771613 883594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : You know what the funny thing is? I eventually switched to a very plain html page with the text inside a
 block. This let me add some javascript to the page to prevent right-clicking, selecting, and copying.
< 1329771616 311670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear…
< 1329771628 179523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that's not in the content-disposition header!
< 1329771652 980725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1329771662 561808 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1329771664 19281 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X
< 1329771678 775660 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the grounds that I want oerjan to accidentally watch some gay porn tomorrow, I won't.
< 1329771700 68953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but wait, does that mean IE will then insist on saving to file instead?
< 1329771711 471131 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's content-disposition: attachment
< 1329771724 552570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i mean that .txt thing ais523 said
< 1329771765 411678 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: He said content-disposition "inline", the filename is separate (although part of the same header)
< 1329771773 103971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: content-disposition: inline;filename="something.txt"
< 1329771793 922932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that I haven't tested this, it's just off some website
< 1329771798 222777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(SO, to be precise)
< 1329771878 474739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does something to decrease the likelihood of an accident
< 1329771924 717604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm, what was it?
< 1329771931 681317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write a post-it note of "remember that gay porn thing" and stick it to the side of your monitor.
< 1329771961 209735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: deleting the log link from my browser history menu
< 1329771986 902544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have post-it notes
< 1329772002 402877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...
< 1329772005 972013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Incidentally, my Chrome at work wanted to save the .txt links on disk instead of viewing it inline. Don't know what's up with *that*.
< 1329772026 668705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE, IT'S NOT JUST IE
< 1329772061 986407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was hoping you'd load them with IE by mistake
< 1329772102 701105 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hmm, does that in Chromium here, too.
< 1329772134 933652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was Google Chrome 17.0.963.56.)
< 1329772189 281749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason The Administration has decided to install Chrome but not Chromium on our Ubontoo Linux machines.
< 1329772269 332467 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even with Content-Disposition explicitly set to inline, it wants to download >_O
< 1329772287 64411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit weird when it comes to downloading.
< 1329772292 533988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you set the filename at the same time?
< 1329772301 892308 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, I don't know how to do that in a .htaccess file.
< 1329772315 396954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK
< 1329772320 108319 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Content-Mood: downloady
< 1329772337 816767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :change 'inline' to 'inline;filename="file.txt"'?
< 1329772342 841891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the htaccess file?
< 1329772361 692376 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then Chromium will download it as file.txt
< 1329772362 15095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't figure out how to set it to launch PDF files with an external viewer instead of saving them to the download directory.
< 1329772383 932520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: heh, seriously? that would be ridiculous
< 1329772433 397029 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't actually KNOW that, I'll test.
< 1329772451 443950 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup
< 1329772462 955757 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just doesn't know what "inline" means >_>
< 1329772497 43215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means: get in line, you peasant. You'll download the file and *like* it.
< 1329772599 105368 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, to change file viewers in opera you just go to the menu, settings, preferences, then go to the Advanced tab and select Downloads in the list
< 1329772638 486960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't expect Opera to screw text/plain up
< 1329772649 953444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder if text/css would display inline in Chromium?
< 1329772657 267269 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's seeming like Firefox is the only one that doesn't screw up text/plain.
< 1329772673 751429 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's because I explicitly set the charset to UTF-8?
< 1329772686 23668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems unlikely, but who knows
< 1329772688 97096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR that Firefox preferences had a place too. And Chromium says something about "you've configured something something", so maybe it has a thing too, just didn't find it.
< 1329772704 111162 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: At this point I'm not willing to put anything past it >_>
< 1329772718 878561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I finally broke down and mozpluggered evince inside it to view PDFs instead of crapping to disk, but evince is unable to get keyboard focus no matter whether I needs_xembed or not. Same thing inside Firefox too.)
< 1329772724 843023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I meant, I wouldn't be surprised if multiple browsers got it right
< 1329772742 793217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work in Safari, I wonder? I know it doesn't normally act differently from Chrome, but this isn't exactly a rendering thing, so it might
< 1329772759 829233 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if treating text/plain-that-looks-htmly like text breaks more than one Really Important Site
< 1329772761 389795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries today's log in Epiphany
< 1329772776 647879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, works just fine in Epiphany
< 1329772780 128352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's Webkit-based
< 1329772785 541330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this increases the chance of it working in Safari too
< 1329772836 662474 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :text/plain really isn't very important on the webernets.
< 1329772852 880253 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lest you forget, the logs are also available nicely formatted, and thanks to elliott the nicely formatted logs copypasta correctly.
< 1329772894 197227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Downloading file  Name: 2012-02-20.txt  Type: unknown"
< 1329772896 611094 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use text/plain for many thing I write and it is use in other circumstances too
< 1329772898 640941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Maybe it's because I explicitly set the charset to UTF-8? <-- today's logs _did_ start with a large number of color codes...
< 1329772920 990925 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd
< 1329772924 296198 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Xvx/Cdy.雛q.T.;1...P/5..aW$ҏ׷D[T?'+s.2.:HોhOϒü(.ڦ~~.}Bfd׊y2t.?" 搅Y.̟..KU!~qgC4[U^ 8>e(=.bt֔..,S.BKrp|E.W.~lJ.]<`P.Hm.]Z\
< 1329772925 616096 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHHH, looka that, earlier logs actually show fine in Chrome.
< 1329772928 901332 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"log ruiner"
< 1329772938 490068 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's actually just that Chrome isn't willing to render it if the content encoding is a LIE.
< 1329772945 891056 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which seems fine to me.
< 1329772999 978667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: all you need to do is to find a content encoding which allows both UTF-8 text and irc color codes.  should be a breeze.
< 1329773018 985432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, charset
< 1329773034 884048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we badly need a utf-8-or-maybe-latin-1 encoding
< 1329773049 603113 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that the content encoding changes from line to line.
< 1329773050 373422 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1329773057 784448 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no "figure it out on a line-by-line basis" encoding.
< 1329773060 574615 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Which wouldn't actually solve that at all.
< 1329773074 157881 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, helpfully the default option on that download dialog was actually "Open in: Opera"
< 1329773089 912067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC color codes shouldn't really be a problem, though? It's just 0x03, that's equally 0x03 in UTF-8 and is not an illegal UTF-8 sequence.
< 1329773092 240613 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: IRC control codes are valid UTF-8, since it is ASCII control codes so it work, isn't it?
< 1329773106 238523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: meaning "interpret this as utf-8, except where it's invalid utf-8 interpret it as latin-1 instead"
< 1329773112 794127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many of the things said on the channel might not be, though.
< 1329773127 579733 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but you would also want IRC color code parsing.
< 1329773145 147740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm, I was thinking generally, not IRCish in particular
< 1329773146 174398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329773146 361023 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, sure, are *valid* UTF-8 codepoints, but still.
< 1329773151 513025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why aren't IRC color codes in Unicode yet?
< 1329773171 35467 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever, in Pokemon Card: * Retreat twice in one turn? * Knocked out your own pokemon before the end of your turn? * Won due to opponent running out of cards? * Achieved overmate? * Evolved for the sole purpose of increasing your own retreat cost? * Played 59EYE1MEWTWO deck against an opponent who played four ENERGY REMOVAL and four SUPER ENERGY REMOVAL and you still won?
< 1329773173 415297 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They're ASCII control codes. They're *in* Unicode, but with only context-defined semantics.
< 1329773203 689040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I mean, loads of encodings use control codes with particular meanings
< 1329773209 785293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those are moved to a different codepoint
< 1329773211 748409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : And lest you forget, the logs are also available nicely formatted <-- um i seem to have forgotten that.
< 1329773266 339143 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And IRC uses the ASCII set. Which have always had context-defined semantics. :)
< 1329773306 306240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g in the IBM OEM character set, codepoint 1 is a smiley face
< 1329773314 297219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as a result, Unicode also has a smiley face, it just isn't codepoint 1
< 1329773322 188268 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(literally, the proper behavior depends on the terminal you're using.)
< 1329773323 302230 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes I have once played an evolution card for the sole purpose of increasing my own active pokemon's retreat cost.)
< 1329773325 211902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so shouldn't Unicode also have something that corresponds to IRC's codepoint 3?
< 1329773347 980420 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Should it have a seperate encoding for VT-100 codes?
< 1329773365 318411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how did you still win when the opponent had energy removal?
< 1329773373 956342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's more debatable, but quite possibly
< 1329773429 778673 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There goes a whole 'nother bit, then. :P
< 1329773431 506494 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Energy removal really doesn't affect it much if you know how to play the deck properly. There are ways to win against such a deck but energy removal isn't one of them. (You simply need to know when to attack and when to defend)
< 1329773442 998041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I see
< 1329773445 990184 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were a *lot* of incompatible terminals back in the day.
< 1329773487 827216 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And convention on the systems using those terminals was that the charset for all of them was the same, they just happened to interpret a small chunk of them differently.
< 1329773501 915187 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, the terminal setting being in TERM, not LC_*
< 1329773575 571415 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, *nowadays* that's just a comical bit of legacy. All UNIX terminals are VT-100, and all Win32 terminals are whatever the hell that DOS terminal thing is.
< 1329773640 73054 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comical? Surely thou jest
< 1329773680 223859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"All Unix terminals" have a sensible common subset, but they're certainly not all identical when it comes to specifics (window title setting if supported, 88/256-color modes, whatever).
< 1329773685 674102 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you know about the infamous 59EYE1MEWTWO deck. I thought of it far before I read about it, and when I did read about it they said it won't work due to your opponent can easily beat you in these ways... one way listed was by using ENERGY REMOVAL card. But I realized they were wrong about that. Yet, there is ways to win against such a deck. Any card that can poison with one energy can win against this deck.
< 1329773703 397708 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterm still thinks that being a superset of every other non-bitmapped DEC terminal ever made is an achievement
< 1329773709 216617 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, *but* it's quite different from how things used to be.
< 1329773722 694319 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nowadays, everything is basically "VT-100 plus foo".
< 1329773756 724676 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which dramatically eliminates the need for a swath of (admittedly now-tiny) infrastructure for handling multiple terminal types.
< 1329773764 560092 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you believe me, or do you believe the other report which I read?
< 1329773817 374086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, I can see how you could attach energy rather than defend if you thought the opponent wouldn't attack for much
< 1329773826 456843 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of needing to know "how do I do *anything*", you just need to know "what level of color support is available, can I set the window title, etc."
< 1329773839 517128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, would that deck be better if it also had 4 copies of Bill in there? or would that lead to it decking itself?
< 1329773869 376528 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It would lead to decking itself, and wouldn't help anyways since you can attach only one energy per turn regardless
< 1329773881 65313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right
< 1329773905 307515 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Pokémon PSPACE complete
< 1329773935 557207 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Pokémon-SPACE complete
< 1329773939 802816 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it may even be TC; I strongly suspect Magic: the Gathering is
< 1329773962 148321 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Magic isn't already TC, then it's merely a couple well-designed cards away.
< 1329773964 497923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think Unicode's stated goal is to accommodate all encoding systems, just all languages/"writing systems"/symbol sets/whatever, and then some compatibility characters for reversible E->Unicode->E round-trip; but the IRC control codes survive the trip already, and moreover they are "presentational" things; I mean, Unicode by design doesn't have any bold/superscript/color-setting things.
< 1329773980 918103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, OK
< 1329773983 818808 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only any card that can poison with one energy, but also any card that can confuse with one energy, has a possibility to win. Poison will probably be more effective here though, unless the player with the card causing confusion/poison has no bench pokemon cards.
< 1329773989 736632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. the "Turing Machine" card.
< 1329773992 630522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has cat smileys because they're used in text messages on Japanese mobile phones, though
< 1329774019 689147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tap to run a program, or whatever.
< 1329774021 759278 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: just abuse the private use plane
< 1329774023 155940 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode does not even have all the Commodore 64 character set
< 1329774024 212807 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, yeah, Unicode has *invented* things that are context-specific. (character variant markers)
< 1329774026 929930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wouldn't confusion cause the defence to stop working? so you could damage Mewtwo simply by attacking?
< 1329774035 158883 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it's called "private use" because it's for private use
< 1329774038 212932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Game ends if it doesn't halt.)
< 1329774070 820020 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It might stop working, but you have a 50% chance to work every turn, otherwise you damage yourself (and it is even weak to itself so twice damaging yourself you lose)
< 1329774078 760838 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's not really private use once you need every phone in japan to cooperate over the all-important cat smileys
< 1329774102 84736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, why doesn't a two-energy poisoning move work?
< 1329774102 712267 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Funny, I think all of PETSCII is in there.
< 1329774111 390691 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Private use to japanese phones
< 1329774131 720668 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps not in the BMP, though.
< 1329774161 471808 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But poison will work simply because in a few turns you will lose, regardless of attack/defense. If your opponent has no bench pokemons though, you might still win if you attack.
< 1329774172 662614 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, no, some of the graphic glyphs aren't.
< 1329774247 402090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Cat smileys are still "characters", though. They didn't put in colors in the Emoji set either, even though I think it has some.
< 1329774259 514934 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other cards that can beat a 59EYE1MEWTWO deck include LASS.
< 1329774270 66438 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Actually, there are a couple glyphs in the Emoji that *are* a specific color.
< 1329774271 343735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does Lass do, again?
< 1329774280 313692 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's something like RED SQUARE and GREEN SQUARE
< 1329774322 816725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but I think some of the carrier-specific encodings had arbitrary color-setting codes. Not entirely sure here.
< 1329774323 568402 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Both players reveal card in their hand, whichever ones are trainer cards are shuffled into their draw pile.
< 1329774340 303855 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm.
< 1329774346 882410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, just to restock on cards slightly
< 1329774358 5570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"# Exclude color and animation details from proposed character names except where necessary for distinction.
< 1329774361 4 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :# For cases where color is the only source distinction, the convention is to map to BLACK and WHITE where there are two choices, and to BLACK, WHITE, and CHECKERED where there are three, and to BLACK, WHITE, CHECKERED. and STRIPED where there are four.
< 1329774364 971770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Chart annotations will be added to indicate the preferred representations on color devices."
< 1329774365 397820 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only control character used for IRC color is U+02
< 1329774386 898299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+03, isn't it? 
< 1329774403 288626 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah.
< 1329774404 846190 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes.
< 1329774410 293227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this line contains a U+02
< 1329774433 594178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Two-digit U+dd looks rather weird, one sort of expects to have at least four.)
< 1329774436 346962 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AKA "^C"
< 1329774453 785978 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, well. Most people don't use U+ for ASCII chars. :)
< 1329774461 653023 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are other cards that might work but have a very low possibility of working: SLEEP might work, and if you have many DIGGER + RECYCLE + ITEMFINDER then that might work too, but these are all low chances of actually working.
< 1329774480 833608 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And four-digit U+dddd looks really really weird for ASCII.
< 1329774487 177130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Energy Removal does work if you simply keep attacking while you're doing it
< 1329774489 147977 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0003? I mean, really.
< 1329774535 810362 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Not necessarily; it depends on circumstances. But yes, if you are able to keep attacking while doing it, it has a good chance of working.
< 1329774605 299151 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can tell you I did win with the 59EYE1MEWTWO deck when the opponent had (and used) four ENERGY REMOVAL and four SUPER ENERGY REMOVAL, so it won't necessarily beat such a deck.
< 1329774744 82044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\U00000003.
< 1329774798 314477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely sure why people went with eight hex digits for \U when six would've been enough. But maybe it's good to be prepared.
< 1329774923 385200 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if you have ever done any of things in Pokemon Card of the things that I have listed?
< 1329774927 835241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully, by the time it reaches the 10FFFFth character, UTF-16 will have died out, and we'll be able to go above that limit
< 1329774933 640787 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done all of them
< 1329775089 886456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The real question is what the added character ranges will be called. (There's the BMP and the Astral Planes; something like Transcendental Planes might work.)
< 1329775094 729244 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: UTF-8 does support larger numbers than 0x10FFFF although they are not considered valid Unicode characters even in future.
< 1329775116 790683 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-16 doesn't support such things though
< 1329775118 129942 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "Astral Planes" is an official name
< 1329775123 867243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the UTF-8 standard was altered to not support them any more.
< 1329775134 632880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it's a widespread one.
< 1329775161 695833 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No it still does; they are simply not allowed in Unicode text files and anything Unicode. If you are encoding arbitrary numbers you can still use it.
< 1329775205 535094 :Chef___!~Chef@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1329775210 493971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No. The latest UTF-8 RFC, 3629, says the longest encoding is four bytes.
< 1329775266 349872 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I know that. But it is not relevant to what I am trying to say.
< 1329775335 127400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not UTF-8 if you don't follow the standard, and that RFC is the standard.
< 1329775359 507103 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that too.
< 1329775387 52024 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :even limited to four bytes, iirc that gives you a slightly larger range than the valid unicode codepoints
< 1329775407 475532 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't mean you cannot make up invalid codes to make up a not-UTF-8 but is otherwise same way
< 1329775438 312658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Well, the "too-high" four-byte sequences aren't UTF-8 either.
< 1329775438 511402 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will still be the same encoding, but it encodes arbitrary numbers instead of Unicode texts.
< 1329775488 347094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you can't call it "UTF-8". (Or, well, I guess you can, but arguably you shouldn't.)
< 1329775559 37142 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can call it "UTF-8AN" where "AN" means "Arbitrary Numbers" to mean that all encoded numbers are valid instead of being a Unicode text
< 1329775595 746874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I think there's still some standards titled "UTF-8" that are the old way and go up to 2^31.)
< 1329775639 639065 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 extended up to seven bytes has all the same important properties as UTF-8 (although the first byte happens to carry no payload bits), and no conformant UTF-8 reader should have trouble skipping over the unrecognized bytes (although it would have to be configured to actually do that and not just whine)
< 1329775661 930129 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wouldn't be too surprised if eventually Unicode gets expanded beyond the 21 bit space.
< 1329775682 171157 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, of course, UTF-8's much encoding space will be quite handy.
< 1329775713 873305 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, Unicode expanding for that much space will probably take quite a while.
< 1329775732 482544 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless they start trying to encode literally every attested CJK glyph.
< 1329775752 178073 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mind you, they're nearly trying to do that already. :P)
< 1329775768 208151 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably haven't been a million ideographs ever invented
< 1329775787 813240 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: This would include miswritings.
< 1329775816 150701 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably even those.
< 1329775817 869101 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's trivial to invent CJK glyphs.
< 1329775833 609061 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.35 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1329775859 869430 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it's not trivial to get your invented glyph through the consortium!
< 1329775883 800248 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :🐐 <(Unicode goat begs to differ)
< 1329775892 102858 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they start encoding every attested CJK glyph, then it will be trivial.
< 1329775956 122099 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Unicode is full of dumb things though.
< 1329775989 532749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are there any characters you use that aren't in Unicode?
< 1329775989 782992 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could make ideograph combining characters
< 1329775998 602094 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: They already declined that solution.
< 1329776003 595526 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly.
< 1329776010 453151 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typical.
< 1329776034 953946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll rethink when they're running out of space.
< 1329776039 854360 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose none of them wanted to implement the implied normalisation algorithm.
< 1329776041 283933 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi%C3%A1ngbi%C3%A1ng_noodles
< 1329776046 560022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's still quite a lot of it.
< 1329776070 263133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oracle survey (used as evidence in Oracle v. Google): almost one quarter of people prefer a smartphone costing $200 to an identical smartphone costing $100
< 1329776071 51108 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sometimes. In a few cases the private uses can be used, but I prefer using METAFONT and that stuff
< 1329776087 4017 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the only glyph that's simultaneously "common" and not in Unicode.
< 1329776167 385113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1329776176 474870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be hilarious if a new letter really was invented as a marketing ploy
< 1329776177 900910 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taito_(kanji) :)
< 1329776180 409296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there even a point to trying to fit the whole Chinese writing system into Unicode?
< 1329776181 786712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ideograms aren't exactly "letters"?
< 1329776183 423559 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the former name of the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as Prince
< 1329776186 666379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Klingon symbols are sort-of "common".
< 1329776192 783441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sure; it's so you can communicate in Chinese
< 1329776194 92067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode just isn't meant to represent that kind of thing, surely?
< 1329776220 106261 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oracle survey (used as evidence in Oracle v. Google): almost one quarter of people prefer a smartphone costing $200 to an identical smartphone costing $100 // additionally, another quarter of people prefer a smartphone costing $200 but discounted to $100 to an identical one costing $100 in the first place.
< 1329776234 356367 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq already mentioned that they declined to do that
< 1329776235 748974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's built around representing things as characters, but the Chinese system doesn't use characters in that sense.
< 1329776236 356203 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They more correctly map to morphemes.
< 1329776248 973670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but the survey asked an assumption that all else was useless
< 1329776257 399876 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, this too is *incorrect*, but much less so.
< 1329776267 957448 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are only code points for Chinese characters, not character components.
< 1329776269 876594 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like a morphemic syllabary.
< 1329776273 417760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Google are taking this survey result as evidence that the survey is flawed, and that people aren't assuming all else is equal even though the survey told them to
< 1329776290 228714 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Part of the problem is that nobody entirely agrees on how to decompose the characters.
< 1329776302 718246 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, but that seems kind of like implementing English in Unicode by making each word a character.
< 1329776322 372016 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese characters are not words.
< 1329776330 507917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence 'kind of'.
< 1329776332 15886 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words are made out of one or more characters.
< 1329776335 378178 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: If nearly every letter-pair had a variety of ligatures.
< 1329776338 487687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, um no.
< 1329776343 479459 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: And if they encoded English morphemes.
< 1329776349 24360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words exist independently of writing.
< 1329776354 77215 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the Unicode consortium is less confused on these matters than you, Phantom_Hoover.
< 1329776368 677814 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Words are *written with* one or more characters.
< 1329776372 358524 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"
< 1329776372 993246 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or than you attribute to them.
< 1329776380 744966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using words in common usage, not however the Unicode consortium does it.
< 1329776396 448825 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese language family words are, of course, composed of one or more syllables, and each character maps (generally) to one syllable.
< 1329776421 108730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying they're confused, just voicing a thought in the hope of something interesting coming out of the discussion oh god I sound like kallisti.
< 1329776430 6084 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :('cept in non-Chinese languages using the glyphs, where each character maps to "oh dear god that's confusing")
< 1329776501 370036 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what's the problem? sounds reasonable to me. :D
< 1329776513 246371 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that mapping from Japanese text to reading is AI-complete.
< 1329776530 752532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like your constant "I wasn't being stupid, I was just ."
< 1329776588 485181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i vaguely recall there's a character that is a non-syllabic r, or something
< 1329776626 393009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it that it's an actual suffix...
< 1329776650 885890 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. There's been time for edge cases to evolve.
< 1329776661 988285 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of course, mapping Chinese writing to Chinese speaking is a lost cause.
< 1329776681 297134 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Actually, not particularly.
< 1329776696 153898 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's relatively few ambiguities — most glyphs have only one reading.
< 1329776732 677795 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Chinese speech-to-text is probably pretty hard.
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< 1329777233 444944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love whenever Reddit's progressive, liberal mask slips and they start baying for blood like Daily Mail readers.
< 1329777313 825448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard, but there's quite a few speakers, so there's markets. (I don't really know what the state-of-the-art there is, but there's certainly papers.)
< 1329777330 36522 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure where the idea that they're progressive and liberal comes from.
< 1329777365 10128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Themselves.
< 1329777372 78176 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to me that Reddit spans the range from progressive and liberal to blood-seekers, with most Redditors being morons, and also most of them being relatively young.
< 1329777410 804974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unusurprisingly quite a lot of what comes out there is about acoustic models, and the tones in particular.
< 1329777430 7664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, loving your parallel conversation about speakers.
< 1329778044 611722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it turns out that Google is using third-party cookies that would be not accepted by default by IE and Safari, except that it uses methods to get around the restrictions and make them be accepted by default anyway
< 1329778062 827509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different method for each
< 1329778083 547040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take this as evidence that marketing departments are evil, regardless of the rest of the company
< 1329779372 56275 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The "method", such as it is, the header: P3P: CP="This is not a P3P policy! See http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=151657 for more info."
< 1329779380 222817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right
< 1329779409 299884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and P3P is a Microsoft-specific standard that ignores unknown tokens, so according to P3P, that's equivalent to saying that the cookie won't be used for any purpose at all
< 1329779443 13588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd make more sense to simply not send a P3P header, than send one that says it isn't one
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< 1329779452 730229 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-104.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And without the P3P header, then the cookies will always be declined.
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