< 1332115200 55840 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is a feature that shouldn't be a normal receiver.) not that i'm depressed. :p http://panic.joroinen.fi/pk/ breakpoint03/ wild/ fnord) < 1332115210 360205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a rubbish hi :( < 1332115213 43494 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn shrooms man. < 1332115216 99534 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1332115223 442945 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the archive be a separate page, a subpage of the template, or d on the template page? < 1332115255 178757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/shrooms < 1332115257 956805 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332115331 219218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: I think the best thing would be to have a template {{featured language}}, and [[Esolang:Featured languages]] describing the process < 1332115337 750562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably discussion on [[Esolang talk:Featured languages]] < 1332115348 590729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*describing the process and having archives < 1332115355 692120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the template would presumably link to the project-space page < 1332115360 735232 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And archive on Esolang:Featured languages/Archive < 1332115392 302378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :might not be necessary depending on the time span. although if it's weekly it would get annoying < 1332115405 582963 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking every 2 weeks. < 1332115464 80791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that sounds reasonable. although i'm not sure a rigid time limit is necessary at all < 1332115474 99010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no decent suggestions, no worries hanging on a bit longer < 1332115482 184064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it might encourage people to suggest if there's a deadline :) < 1332115486 441399 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course not. Just an approximate frame. < 1332115633 85059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximate?! naw, we should shut down the wiki if there's no suggestions for two weeks < 1332115676 722558 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) No. < 1332115687 49893 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggest or we kill the wiki < 1332115700 156344 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we as in the others since im not part of the wiki < 1332115701 198468 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-s < 1332115738 667477 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1332115758 349340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think maharba liked my suggestion. < 1332115762 383424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: hey you couldn't possibly be worse than Maggot Ur or what is name was. < 1332115773 123195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*his < 1332115781 277873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dagoth ur. < 1332115803 792890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION may intentionally not have tried too hard getting that right < 1332115808 914854 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im just smart enough to be annoying < 1332115849 242983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why Systems Programmers Still Use C, and What to Do About It (bitc-lang.org)" in /r/programming. i can't _wait_ to see the comments. < 1332115898 302681 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hesitates to try to remember the name of ur's lang. elma.. esme! < 1332115909 707376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Interesting article, but he misses the right answer: if it isn't broken, don't fix it. < 1332115909 866255 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :C may not be the easiest language to learn, but you wouldn't want newbies messing with systems programming anyway." < 1332115918 785119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was wrong occasionally. < 1332115933 702675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, I agree. If I had to improve C, I would add new types with more precise characteristics. Like int16, int32, and int64, for instance." < 1332115936 224595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :djhdfklghsdjklfghsdfjklghldfkgf < 1332115948 902498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: pikhq_: One of you has a chainsaw, right? < 1332115957 66795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some murdering to do. < 1332116049 619132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :here borrow this one (O)###### < 1332116094 550609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you. < 1332116106 464424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i warn you that i cannot guarantee any redditor will survive my onslaught. < 1332116124 528316 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy sounds like he enjoys it < 1332116144 187943 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The BitC goal isn't to invent a new language or any new language concepts. It is to integrate existing concepts with advances in prover technology, and reify them in a language that allows us to build stateful low-level systems codes that we can reason about in varying measure using automated tools." < 1332116207 713797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Biagioni's remarkable success with a TCP/IP implementation in Standard ML [3] is sometimes used to support the contention that the compiler can manage representation issues. Derby's technical report [8] is more revealing. On interactive traffic, FoxNet achieves 0.00007 times the performance of the then-current UNIX network stack. That is not a typo." < 1332116208 943137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yow < 1332116320 357304 :HashBot!~HashBot@82.132.248.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332116327 905613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: < 1332116337 37940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggest HashB*!*@* < 1332116346 854657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or HashB*!*@82.* i suppose < 1332116352 787396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HashBot: hi < 1332116356 523686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#foo < 1332116357 695688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!foo < 1332116363 39089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HashBot: frends < 1332116375 858330 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is foxnet in this context? < 1332116424 64394 :HashBot!~HashBot@82.132.248.237 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332116424 374070 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: the name of the implementation, presumably < 1332116436 789000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1332116440 353156 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : E. Biagioni. ``A Structured TCP in Standard ML.'' Proc. SIGCOMM 1994. pp. 36–45. 1994. < 1332116440 511863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : H. Derby. The Performance of FoxNet 2.0. CMU Technical Report CMU-CS-99-137. 1999. < 1332116441 928061 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1332116441 951819 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332116442 813720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1332116456 171876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :HashB!*@* > 1332116456 193954 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332116478 937517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :HashB*!*@82.* > 1332116478 960273 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332116488 680364 :derdon_!~derdon@pD9E1C65D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332116488 894887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1332116488 917590 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332116619 378945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are an awful lot of bans < 1332116631 129298 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332116673 323192 :derdon!~derdon@p5DE8AE63.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1332116761 149706 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi again < 1332116782 16364 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1332116832 915844 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we get started with the featured template and page? < 1332116857 898647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like i said the current main page design doesn't really support it at all. < 1332116871 298250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have a more "modular" incomplete design scribbled somewhere on my hard disk, though... < 1332117070 552698 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the template is plain text (main page formats it), then we could do the template stuff now. < 1332117112 514290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be put on it, if it's just plain text of the featured language? < 1332117166 960906 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm...alright, how about making Esolang:Featured languages now? < 1332117181 401871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's HashBot trying to do anyway? < 1332117194 845787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why would someone spam #esoteric from a phone? < 1332117206 351684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it dodges the ban, someone ctcp version it next time it's here < 1332117215 342537 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol ais... he's joining sporadically.. it can't be had! < 1332117216 13262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :collecting words to hash for its huge rainbow database < 1332117216 562414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not a phone < 1332117221 969474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the croatia IP range < 1332117222 215903 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1332117234 955308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's in the O2 range inside that, though < 1332117239 525872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, it is? < 1332117240 144306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you were on a phon when you were there < 1332117243 285835 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phone < 1332117244 840795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1332117248 533376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, O2 don't just do phones. < 1332117262 23250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since another person was asking about it in #freenode, i presume it's joining an awful lot of channels. < 1332117287 46623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think fizzie was pointing out you have visited from the very same range < 1332117301 549906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1332117313 652358 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the large range oerjan used, sure < 1332117317 826505 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes no apparent attempt to hide itself... it could just be called bobman < 1332117319 38545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, the narrow range too < 1332117334 420437 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, right, it is in the O2 range < 1332117338 258658 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like a hashbot needs to be named hashbot.. < 1332117339 356503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1332117366 244450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you _sure_ your secret iphone ai hasn't escaped? < 1332117373 745911 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why does it join and leave hahaha.. < 1332117404 127916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hey, that's a secret! < 1332117407 680927 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell does "* HashB has quit (Excess Flood)" mean .. rhetorical < 1332117423 857097 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could look up that term if i needed to know < 1332117451 623168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: it means it keeps getting kicked off for talking too much < 1332117468 963231 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1332117474 918277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not talking < 1332117476 848075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :more likely joining < 1332117516 677161 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be whois'ing everyone i suppose < 1332117527 311959 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1332117556 220493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itidus21: that'd be SendQ exceeded < 1332117562 212559 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1332117572 831074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference is that excess flood is if you're sending too much for the server, and sendq is if you're trying to make the server send too much back to you < 1332118382 153336 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332118593 620905 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, somehow i broke mediawiki's preview. < 1332118637 186083 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332118639 198605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're not meant to be able to move the edit form outside of the content div by supplying MediaWiki with some wikitext to preview, right...? < 1332118656 899190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not sure, but I guess not < 1332118670 498765 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you give it??? < 1332118670 657332 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you get wget working as you need? < 1332118686 414324 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, how am I logged in twice? < 1332118689 899216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba_: some wikitext with some slightly unbalanced divs < 1332118699 419493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a proper esolang Main Page unless it breaks time and space. < 1332118701 177072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably one of the connections got lost on your end, but the connection hasn't timed out on the server end yet < 1332118760 60153 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332118774 973212 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1332118808 44800 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1332118836 150079 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332119000 490174 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you register your nickname, you can reclaim it without having to wait for it to ping out < 1332119012 415225 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I do that? < 1332119093 473557 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you like BZFlag? < 1332119105 479087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: /msg nickserv register passwordiwant myemail@address < 1332119113 615817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it sends a confirmation email) < 1332119165 270647 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1332119348 895896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The design seems to be progressing nicely. < 1332119352 462010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you can never tell with these things. < 1332119377 884074 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, nickserv is a solid design < 1332119437 503867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think there was a confirmation email back in my time. < 1332119448 231744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I wasn't referring to NickServ :P < 1332119460 201560 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it came with the switch to the new software, perhaps? < 1332119538 158738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well nickserv _does_ have my email. < 1332119541 577231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow. < 1332119597 318952 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332119609 395235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was always an optional parameter < 1332119799 471789 :derdon_!~derdon@pD9E1C65D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332119811 136805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sneak preview: http://ompldr.org/vZDJscw < 1332119847 729284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332119934 757286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :feedback welcome, as long as it's not "hey, three of the boxes are the same colour" :P < 1332119938 845325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, i cannot comment on it due to conflict of interest. < 1332119964 982229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: EXCUSE ME! I wrote that blurb specially for you! < 1332119972 150227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it _was_ a lot of green. < 1332119988 932834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't coloured the other boxes yet >_< < 1332119998 826377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chose green for the gradient thing at the top since it's the trilime colour. < 1332120004 923348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1332120050 120791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit worried that this design so far is rather _less_ useful to a new person coming into the wiki < 1332120061 272722 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. Not sure about having a background gradient, though. < 1332120089 171052 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since (a) it doesn't actually explain what an esolang is straight off, and (b) it's not really clear where to go to from the first paragraph < 1332120102 197132 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're worried about new people, just copy over the "This wiki is dedicated to the fostering and documentation of programming languages designed to be unique, difficult to program in, or just plain weird. Here's how you can explore this wiki." part. < 1332120105 980463 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the core introductory material in the "as a reader" should come before the 2x2 box layout... < 1332120115 551494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: indeed, i might. felt like it might be a bit noisy < 1332120174 578677 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might drop the gradient if it ends up overlapping with the interface tabs, which i fear it might. < 1332120229 534070 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mild dislike of gradients in general. < 1332120251 117166 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Without enjoyment of our matrix of solidity, it is but a pale imitation of main pages of yore. < 1332120272 639937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: Pfft. Without gradients and rounded corners, how can anyone trust you? < 1332120280 236483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be stuck on Web 1.0. < 1332120300 404764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to gradually get their trust < 1332120302 665576 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest not changing the colors of the Classic and Nostalgia skins (or of any other skins that you are not going to test the new colors with). < 1332120320 984916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can defraud them < 1332120327 793282 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just make the design crowded and noisy relative to straight lines and solid colors (such as white). < 1332120334 89333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: damn, who told you my secret plan to change the nostalgia skin to purple? :( < 1332120421 848330 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I deduced it. < 1332121005 308387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, this is more like it: http://ompldr.org/vZDJseQ < 1332121018 847678 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like. < 1332121057 554242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a esolang where the code itself is music? < 1332121060 680089 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And if I were to, say, hover my mouse over them limes ... < 1332121065 588109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Tons. < 1332121069 408675 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe put the trilime on the other side, so it doesn't conflict with the main logo. < 1332121096 261757 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: They would start to rotate, as "Kaksikymmentäneljätuntiaikakausitämänhetkinen" plays endlessly, overlapping itself with new iterations again and again until it's just white noise. < 1332121115 946693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they would start to grow and accelerate, so in a minute or so there's just a green blur all over your screen while your ears bleed. < 1332121124 959428 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fairly certain that IS my matrix of solidity. < 1332121143 513814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds more fluid than solid to me < 1332121154 496857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Limes are solid, silly. < 1332121177 193586 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332121192 771317 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the feeling Maharba_'s internet connection isn't terribly reliable. < 1332121199 675978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think. < 1332121211 990683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :("/msg nickserv ghost Maharba password" to disconnect the other one, then "/nick Maharba" to change to it.) < 1332121223 663043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i sometimes use the webchat to get a _more_ reliable connection... < 1332121224 485208 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity. < 1332121231 450081 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1332121238 667587 :Maharba_!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 NICK :Maharba < 1332121279 799312 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. I normally have a fairly reliable connection. < 1332121296 474472 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't know why I keep losing it. < 1332121301 953005 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what is the name of one? < 1332121319 373347 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fugue. Velato. < 1332121343 963011 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's two. Quintopia asked for one. < 1332121347 479129 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, tswett monqy upate < 1332121353 660915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a tswett monqy update. < 1332121359 557019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is bad at following instructions. < 1332121360 702061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*upate < 1332121371 490891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: I don't want quintopia to get what he wants! < 1332121376 70115 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you haven't tswett monqy upated *once*. < 1332121380 265480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :better than a sweat monkey update. < 1332121380 425031 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get with the program. < 1332121390 964413 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... yeah, I have to give that to you. < 1332121401 424906 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Fugue, Musical-X, and also see the list of ideas. < 1332121414 974454 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: What do you think of moving the main page trilime to the right as before? < 1332121428 828847 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott: < 1332121575 874776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, that would clash with the default to the left on _all_ pages... < 1332121591 134256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: Yeah, I just tried that; the problem is that the "This wiki is dedicated to the fostering and documentation of programming languages designed to be unique, difficult to program in, or just plain weird." paragraph gets a really large bottom margin if you do that. < 1332121599 806477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the logo is bigger than it (and it doesn't scale nicely). < 1332121613 94426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. Might keep it. Might try and shrink the logo to a size it doesn't look ugly at... < 1332121654 263242 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not talking about the logo that is always to the left, I'm talking about the additional trilime on the main page. < 1332121674 615861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: i'm saying that those would clash if they were next to each other < 1332121705 121016 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's my point. < 1332121711 730532 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duplicating the logo on the main page is really silly anyway, it's a cheap hack to make it look a bit fancier :P < 1332121720 870716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But an effective cheap hack! < 1332121789 693790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant trilime background. best idea? < 1332121798 234548 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worst. < 1332121804 819704 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not *worst*, but... < 1332121827 52153 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the logo the trilime anyway? < 1332121880 57520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limes were kidnapped by hysterical raisins < 1332121940 88454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: That is a question many have asked, and few have answered. < 1332121954 228062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Graue just found the picture and liked it. < 1332121980 623095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was on MediaWiki Commons but later deleted due to licensing reasons, which troubles me somewhat. < 1332121988 543173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes the whole page look su*hit by falling anvil* < 1332122001 675268 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You uploaded the trilime file, not Graue. < 1332122025 238080 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: It was already the wiki logo since 2005. < 1332122033 961521 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just in a MediaWiki path. < 1332122041 72182 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1332122042 368441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I uploaded it so it could be used on the main page (which only uploaded images can). < 1332122064 954581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then when the wiki moved over, I just reused the uploaded version as the logo path. < 1332122079 223973 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of a logo that would make sense, so we might as well stick with the trilime. < 1332122180 139366 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of trying to find a logo that makes sense, we should make an esolang that has a lot to do with three and limeness, to make trilime relevant. < 1332122237 324140 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go right ahead. < 1332122260 989032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page First draft. < 1332122265 780308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or thereabouts.) < 1332122302 426567 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, no trilime? < 1332122329 350907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removed it until I can figure out where it should go. < 1332122351 797789 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about centering the "Welcome to esolang"? < 1332122370 346372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A background trilime might actually be a decent idea; if it was enlarged, made translucent, and went in the corner, it could just get hidden behind the boxes. < 1332122389 729790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: Tried that, made the "This wiki..." paragraph look weird. (Centring that paragraph too makes it look weirder.) < 1332122402 346053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could center the div they appear in and then center the "Welcome ..." in that... I'll give it a try. < 1332122407 664206 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about indenting, then? < 1332122422 645169 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or tricks work. < 1332122445 353864 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In my previous experience, enlarged trilime = terrible trilime. < 1332122480 343210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: You have... enlarged the trilime before? < 1332122482 616336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dare I ask why? < 1332122567 476567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should note that RocketJSquirrel is Gregor for Maharba's sake :P < 1332122583 305311 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, I am Gregor for Maharba's sake. < 1332122607 297621 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Gregor for Maharba's sake. < 1332122614 697616 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't recall, to be frank. < 1332122636 679924 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Well, I did find the original source of the trilime (it's considerably larger). < 1332122651 116363 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332122677 389832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was known as "Three cut limes" in primitive times. < 1332122693 996313 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Quit: Dinnertime. < 1332122794 25240 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332122812 948593 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha < 1332122886 550242 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Unfortunately finding that source again is a pain >_> < 1332122890 802386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a shady Wiki-mirror. < 1332122905 577728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!logs < 1332123099 610355 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I never linked it in the logs >_> < 1332123209 371516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page I think I broke it. < 1332123623 30704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1332124783 986458 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332125463 213129 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332125539 122681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332125546 764224 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1332125580 187620 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finalized the main page design yet? < 1332125643 852466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. < 1332125656 530240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatedly, someone remind me to remember to remove the bot flag from my account once I'm done with it, or I'll be invisible in recentchanges forever... < 1332125725 816062 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not invisible, just hiding. < 1332126012 689494 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There need to be more colours. I'm commissioning RocketJSquirrel to create some new colours. < 1332126103 244760 :ferret__!32889a66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.136.154.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332126147 668535 :ferret__!32889a66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.136.154.102 PART :#esoteric < 1332126247 531681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ferret. Bye ferret. < 1332126389 649265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue, green, yellow... it sure would be great if more colours existed. < 1332126400 241184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The following is a comprehensive list of colors." -- Wikipedia < 1332126423 75111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it is not a listing of every single wavelength on the visible spectrum. < 1332126517 842951 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be infinite. < 1332126585 282715 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven't used blue yet. < 1332126738 243512 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be infinite? < 1332126743 385635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: The top-left of http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page is blue. < 1332126745 650786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or lilac, anyway. < 1332126765 807385 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is there a smallest quantity of difference between wavelengths? < 1332126766 706485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ask fizzie, he answered that the last time kallisti asked it. :p < 1332126781 174541 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks purple to me. < 1332126793 351771 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe try orange? < 1332126823 653682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lilac is bluey purple. :p < 1332126835 257691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a pink. < 1332126845 204652 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, try orange. < 1332126858 748414 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a citrus like lime. < 1332126878 100855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Orange is basically pink! < 1332126888 713792 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of! < 1332126889 415389 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1332126926 374548 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be recommending green (my favorite color), but it's already in use. < 1332126999 593527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say the yellow is bordering on orange anyway. But I'm trying orange. < 1332127428 125468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How're the colours on http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page < 1332127436 970899 :Canaimero-bdc!~francisco@186.90.158.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332127441 510071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Canaimero-bdc < 1332127445 357430 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canaimero-bdc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332127653 749215 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd put the yellow on Featured language. < 1332127681 481037 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be a good idea. I picked green for it because it's the colour of the trilime. (Can you sense a pattern?) < 1332127820 579196 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1332127833 723899 :Canaimero-bdc!~francisco@186.90.158.63 PART :#esoteric < 1332127877 886977 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf < 1332127888 708071 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ellichaf < 1332127907 794252 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm, shallots. < 1332127913 904828 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the right number of 't's in that word. < 1332128184 168322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: There we go: http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page < 1332128202 147858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from fleshing out the content of the boxes a bit, I think the lilac needs brightening and the red needs to look less salmon... other than that I'm happy with the colours. < 1332128258 675464 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lilac brightening and maybe slightly more saturation would be good. I think then we just need the Featured language template before it can overwrite the current Main Page. < 1332128348 716498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather add a little more material to the boxes first, but yes, it's close. < 1332128371 41855 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What more material? < 1332128398 462160 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What else does it need? < 1332128403 524789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. The bottom ones are just so small. :p < 1332128407 911388 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't really like the list presentation in some of them. < 1332128469 833707 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe change the list of categories link to Esolang:Categorization (better organized). < 1332128532 254468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, agreed. < 1332128700 276103 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add the help page in Editor or Meta. < 1332128763 837626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. I fixed the lilac: http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page < 1332129030 814701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/Main_Page Okay, this is looking good. Still need to tweak the red and make the "for readers" section less listy, but I like this. < 1332129049 12359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I should add back the IRC plug. < 1332129051 535713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Did anyone even notice that?) < 1332129982 614438 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the link to main page talk useful? < 1332130008 566851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not, I added it as a cheap joke in that it's the most meta possible entry there :P < 1332130012 420318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except a link to the main page itself, I suppose.) < 1332130044 793066 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main page itself would be funnier. < 1332130125 62612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's some brokenness when I try to link to the main page itself... < 1332130126 30824 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fixes. < 1332130205 827205 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott `fix` it < 1332130216 968560 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, man, infix fixed-point combinator. < 1332130252 456884 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fa f 0 = 1; fa f n = n * f (n-1) in fa `fix` 5 < 1332130253 383281 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 120 < 1332130279 249489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of nice, actually. < 1332130331 677286 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have a problem with me unilaterally declaring /// the first featured language so I can put this thing up? :p < 1332130340 362213 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No problem. < 1332130371 748299 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, give me a few minutes to get the templates and whatnot set up and it'll go live. < 1332130520 305646 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can you write me a really simple interactive untyped lambda calculus interpreter? < 1332130599 367740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. < 1332130630 53641 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: For teaching purposes! < 1332130635 28703 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You like teaching, right? < 1332130756 630879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Despite this, it is surprisingly Turing-complete" -- this reads awkwardly. :( < 1332131071 680030 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite this, it still manages to be Turing-complete < 1332131079 434115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's better. < 1332131088 858628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially the idea of a language actively trying to be TC :) < 1332131111 850162 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly, it is still surprisingly Turing-complete. Surprise! < 1332131139 930776 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How Turing-complete is that language?" "It's surprisingly Turing-complete! Several times the Turing-completeness I expected it to be." < 1332131194 670318 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone made up this definition of a planet: It orbits a star, and it is possible to park the Starship Enterprise into an orbit around it. < 1332131394 392133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: By the way, the selection process I came up with while discussing with oerjan earlier was that anyone could propose a single language that they didn't create in a simple list. Whenever it's time to switch over, an admin will select one according to a set of guidelines (that oerjan came up with; basically requiring the article to be well-written, preferably with examples and an implementation, favouring variety of themes, etc.), write a b < 1332131394 596227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lurb, and feature it; they'll then remove it from the list. Periodically (less often than the featured language changes), the list will be blanked, and everyone can suggest again (as long as it's not the same language as last time). The reasoning behind this is that it's nice that people can just propose them without having to specifically propose them for a certain two-week cycle or the like, and there's no reason to invalidate previous suggesti < 1332131395 386465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ons because a different good one was picked; but that having an indefinitely-growing list is not practical, and specifically removing entries that aren't any good would just create friction. < 1332131418 358848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That keeps the required effort for everyone very low, while keeping the candidate selection democratic. < 1332131468 825198 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I think people should be also allowed to comment on suggestions. < 1332131555 649253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I considered that, but thought it'd probably get noisy. Feedback like "the article needs improvements" is useful, but criticism of the language itself won't really help much; there don't really seem to be many esolangs that the community wildly disagrees on the value of, so it seems like it would usually be redundant. But I'm not certain. < 1332131597 972114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it seems like proposing a language you like better would generally be more useful than criticising an existing suggestion. < 1332131704 19510 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just stuff like "I'd like this one featured because it has such-and-such" or "The article for this one could use some more examples—don't feature it just yet" < 1332131760 385595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the guidelines will be written up, so people will know what an article should have to get featured. But I'll think about it. Not like there's been *any* suggestions yet, anyway; back to templates... < 1332131787 796350 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think mathematics is science? Do you think philosophy is science? < 1332131880 125158 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: No to each. < 1332131924 300456 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maharba: I agree; my answer is also no to both questions. < 1332132013 694358 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many people say mathematics is science; I disagree. Among other things, mathematics is more exact than science. < 1332132070 586607 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And relies on logical proof rather than testing of theories by experiment. < 1332132088 555453 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too. < 1332132275 67629 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I daresay not every mathematician personally verifies every single one of the proofs their work depends on. < 1332132294 838583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pure methods are different, but neither mathematics nor science are practiced in a vacuum, and they use the same infrastructure of peer review. < 1332132309 596297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I rather think mathematics looks a lot more like science in practice than it does in theory. < 1332132339 372465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, you could call verifying someone's proof "repeating their experiment".... < 1332132369 134642 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that they are fundamentally different concepts. < 1332132421 896628 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said: the study itself is vastly different. But the framework surrounding them makes them look a lot more similar. < 1332132440 133244 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1332132467 422831 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about the distinction between engineering and science? < 1332132611 645275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think engineering is an activity that involves the application of science: not two directly comparable concepts, but one a utilisation of the other. < 1332132654 445962 :Maharba!3200428e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.0.66.142 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1332134044 227541 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332134746 814608 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1332134804 360614 :shadwick!464f4a82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.74.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332135103 689500 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1332135130 507680 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEA786.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1332135249 982572 :cheater_!~cheater@ip-80-226-24-0.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1332136003 180467 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, elliott tswett UPDATE < 1332136009 504071 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332136019 524454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaand the new main page is live < 1332136021 820576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332136085 374633 :shadwick!464f4a82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.74.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332136208 497477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: monqy: :'( < 1332136214 81811 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332136221 675097 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new main page you say < 1332136223 721493 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure is new < 1332136279 518705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it < 1332136280 474776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1332136404 273203 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's < 1332136405 506245 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deja vu < 1332136491 288202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: where's the deja vu,,, < 1332136498 527564 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main page < 1332136502 477955 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a daej vue < 1332136525 728836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why,e < 1332136529 857834 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know??? < 1332136538 887522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1332136551 906728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think wikipedia's main page looked similar circa 2004???? < 1332136798 163810 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332136798 364219 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1332136964 960204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :We really need a page that links to "miscellany" like [[Hello world program in esoteric languages]] and [[EsoInterpreters]]. < 1332137329 425127 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: a suggestion.. in the "for readers" section.. "Firstly, ... first place" uses "first" twice, consider changing at least one? < 1332137355 751191 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm running 'dieharder', a suite of PRNG statistical tests < 1332137362 633069 :kmc!~keegan@c-65-96-1-204.hsd1.ma.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one test is that it simulates 200,000 games of craps < 1332137378 615122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Hmm... is "in the first place" a UK idiom? Probably a good idea. < 1332137414 235875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"find out what an esoteric programming language is in the first place" ~ "find out what on earth an 'esoteric programming language' is" ~ "find out what an esoteric programming language *is*, anyway" ~ etc. < 1332137426 488654 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the "firsts" aren't really sharing a meaning there :P < 1332137451 117451 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I think you will find the new main page appropriately... solid. < 1332137541 714003 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: I removed the "Firstly," < 1332137801 469741 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332137834 505638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone convince me not to make [[Deadfish]] my candidate. < 1332137843 386925 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't, because if I do I won't be able to stop myself from choosing it. < 1332137884 861677 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canditate for what? < 1332137961 94558 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most implemented language? < 1332137994 92454 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332138001 893439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages. < 1332138085 985181 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is so great about Deadfish < 1332138097 159949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What? Are you kidding? < 1332138104 303831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish is the greatest programming language ever. < 1332138205 796688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, why doesn't http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Featured_languages list ///? < 1332138582 925160 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK; don't make [[Deadfish]] your candidate. < 1332138725 312124 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1332138807 449635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/696_(number) This just in from Wikipedia... < 1332138837 859257 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332138993 840337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAA MY FACE IMPLODE < 1332139518 572329 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332140006 944592 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Wychodzi < 1332140196 268651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thank you for that list of rules, by the way; they turned into my featured language selection guidelines. < 1332140196 509086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332140271 884828 :cheater_!~cheater@ip-80-226-24-0.vodafone-net.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1332140470 58122 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy: Is the new ESOLANG MAIN PAGE as BEAUTIFUL AS YOUTH? < 1332140485 698218 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is as beautiful as youth < 1332140524 202212 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, if a language is submitted once by one person, and doesn't make the cut, can it be submitted again by a different person, or is that it? < 1332140695 39386 :Jafet1!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1332140909 940396 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1332140967 644904 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1332141167 649473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Oh, that policy is worded badly. < 1332141186 915045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clarified: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages/Candidates < 1332141276 360690 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should be learning to sleep < 1332141297 692333 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially considering that on Wednesday... < 1332141306 842269 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1332141327 300558 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ok, thanks < 1332141383 413948 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think type notation as seen in html is very clever.. but what i wonder about is how safe it is to use such a language without paying anyone < 1332141419 555826 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^type of notation < 1332141435 676949 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, you really should pay me to be safe. < 1332141435 838941 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL THE FLEDGLING XML LOVER < 1332141441 123699 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEBD96.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332141468 37734 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I can imagine if someone were cyberstalking me and saw that line, they'd fear for my stability. < 1332141503 263146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most internet users have something known as a sense of humour. < 1332141505 87627 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you underestimate the tenacity of a crazed cyberstalker < 1332141512 691833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They'll doubt your stability for completely unrelated reasons! < 1332141519 314114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, do you really think he needs to know about XML? < 1332141535 105589 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know "of" it.. < 1332141619 188590 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like it though.. i think it brought problems with software patents more into public eye when microsoft got sued over that xml patent thing in word < 1332142364 427243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332142372 269544 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332142645 364336 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1332142656 45508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1332142657 804093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the esowiki, err, changed a fair amount since you were last here < 1332142665 900374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds worrying < 1332142667 254191 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have new obligations now! (technically) < 1332142672 289272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even been asleep since then! < 1332142681 808027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page is probably the easiest place to start. < 1332142714 298499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I was reading the history in my RSS reader < 1332142717 372643 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is normally how I read Esolang < 1332142734 136740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's just that there's an awful lot of history this time :) < 1332142736 912439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's cheating! < 1332142741 911449 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll know why it happens before the what. < 1332142820 993921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 doesn't know the crime of being wikipsychic :'( < 1332142854 392578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty similar on Wikipedia, btw; things rarely took me by surprise because I had a habit of reading the relevant discussion pages < 1332142865 531250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although obviously I couldn't read every edit to the whole wiki < 1332143048 734634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure some have tried < 1332143091 420297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, since the main page's title is hidden now and i just redesigned it, i may be unusually susceptible to arguments that it should be moved to [[Esolang:Main page]]. < 1332143116 114384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only Esolang, I don't really care < 1332143123 187365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I sort-of do, but most of my arguments don't apply < 1332143146 204068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you /really care/ on Wikipedia? /really/? < 1332143214 263614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… "don't really" is not actually an absolute opposite of "really" < 1332143281 960366 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332143309 260981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/really/ care, then < 1332143431 789979 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Additionally, the decision states that there is no opportunity for a further appeal to Jimbo Wales if the Committee is reviewing a ban originally imposed by Jimbo Wales." -- I was wrong about Jimbo being the final appeals process for ArbCom < 1332143443 666148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jimbo is the final appeals process for ArbCom, except when ArbCom is serving as the final appeals process for Jimbo < 1332143463 473252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have I mentioned I'm reading this Wikipedia metanonsense for pure entertainment? < 1332143481 138262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is pretty entertaining, indeed < 1332143489 530834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't think that's its intended purpose < 1332143519 654401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, now I just have to set up a situation whereby an ArbCom decision's final appeal process is Jimbo /and vice versa/ simultaneously < 1332143533 660277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Jimbo will have to become the ArbCom to resolve it < 1332143536 130860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or vice versa < 1332143544 676213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you need Jimbo and ArbCom to ban the same person simultaneously and independently < 1332143552 549635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I suspect that would simply just leave them with no appeals at all < 1332143567 155249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's fairly decisive as these things go < 1332143589 486987 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, we need ArbCom and Jimbo to both take non-opposite, but contradictory actions to resolve the same situation simultaneously < 1332143611 630172 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way, nobody knows what to do, and they aren't in agreement < 1332143860 352703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are 4,507 registered users, but most of them are spambots." < 1332143899 564048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, I remember the case where there were community sanctions on someone, and arbcom agreed with them, then later converted them to a simple ban because nobody could figure out what they meant < 1332143941 745470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, i realise that a 1:4 article:user ratio would be rather unlikely :) < 1332143956 828972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just amused at the statistic < 1332143984 662304 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in feedback on the featured languages process, btw < 1332144014 399988 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to keep it as low-overhead as possible, but I still have a feeling submissions will completely stagnate, leaving it up to mostly the whims of the admin updating it (which is basically what i proposed to start with anyway) < 1332144107 315258 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, you have an anonymised google: are we really the top result for "Enjoy being locked in your matrix of solidity."? < 1332144120 344547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, I mean... I hope so < 1332144130 540867 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332144135 47535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's still probably going to try to geolocate me < 1332144165 59248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we are, indeed < 1332144184 707576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, it's just that google knows I've clicked esolangs.org a lot < 1332144187 438169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a page about Graue is third, and the logs of this channel are fourth < 1332144188 705309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from results < 1332144195 451713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, that matches what i see too < 1332144201 444204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of the other results on that page look relevant < 1332144202 332645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graue page is just his realname from the whois of the domain < 1332144205 290768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :voxelperfect that is < 1332144206 162287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is without quotes, btw < 1332144210 9013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1332144212 489155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, I guessed it was autogenerated < 1332144222 821857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, have you looked at the link in the topic? < 1332144226 685222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the logs link, the other one < 1332144227 899124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332144237 267501 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you ask, it's pornography, and also warez < 1332144241 702554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have < 1332144243 956794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't < 1332144246 963530 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, before checking?! < 1332144347 496960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had been there for a while < 1332144350 458853 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1332144362 539606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I trust Gregor to that extent < 1332144380 182507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, he could just as easily put warez and pornography on codu.org < 1332144385 58059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not quite as easily < 1332144410 193614 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 NICK :itidus20 < 1332144487 161801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know *I* put warez and pornography on codu.org. < 1332144544 674009 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I wouldn't expect it to be your job to put anything on codu.org, I thought that was Gregor's job. < 1332144577 323708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was covert. < 1332144721 434059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, *did* you have any comments on the featured language process, or are you still reading the changes? < 1332144736 923982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: meh < 1332144770 689124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i made the best of a bad situation :P < 1332144807 97353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, you need to propose [[Deadfish]] as a candidate. < 1332144833 888625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1332144865 684519 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what?! < 1332144876 643770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying Deadfish _isn't_ the greatest programming language ever designed? < 1332144894 347484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1332144905 984681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are /you/ saying @lang isn't the greatest programming language ever designed? < 1332144916 543759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART #esoteric :"before someone mentions Feather" < 1332144926 659805 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's Feather < 1332144955 348539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332144973 869763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, no, @lang is just the least _sucky_ < 1332144984 933419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :deadfish comes from a position where there is no suck. < 1332144988 918221 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's at the suck pole. < 1332144993 493087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :all it is, is greatness. < 1332145062 701956 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently @lang < (0,sucky] < 1332145100 473532 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. < 1332145133 454962 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused about which lang but lets just pretend i didnt try to use math < 1332145135 389619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll just get oerjan to propose deadfish then. < 1332145138 617452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sheesh", as they say. < 1332146159 254069 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on TeXnicard a bit now, and I realize, one of the paragraphs mentions bad luck, and that names mentioned in the index include: Damian Conway, Bryce Courtenay, David Fuchs, Israel Houghton, Ron Luce, George Marsaglia, Martin Pool, and Steve Smith. However, Donald Knuth's name is not in there. Perhaps it should be, if it has algorithms which are based on his algorithms? < 1332146280 715594 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My name is not in there either) < 1332146325 869102 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The index of TeX: The Program mentions Hercule Poirot. < 1332147070 617062 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, in my program, Donald Knuth is mentioned in the bibliography, just not in the index. < 1332147464 956456 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332152879 552872 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: helpful tip to write a wikipedia article about yourself: make three copies of the exact same article with different content, one of which will be deleted as copyvio, contest the speedying of only one of the remaining ones, then post it as a new section on [[Talk:Main Page]] once they get deleted < 1332152905 35864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that would work :) < 1332152914 217176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't mean you can't try! < 1332152923 637857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone just try that on Wikipedia? or on Esolang? < 1332152929 624696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia. esolang would be more amusing < 1332152938 52817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this lead me to discover that none of the scary warning templates support telling someone you've speedy-tagged _three_ of your articles. < 1332152947 983257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i had to edit the pluralisation in after the fact. < 1332152952 383766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of their < 1332152964 614411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's usual to send three scary warnings in response to that < 1332152973 667944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's /correct/, or even if there's a point < 1332152975 155982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's usual < 1332152975 441745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're the same article! < 1332152985 722822 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but it's like three clicks in Twinkle! < 1332152989 242263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1332152994 251950 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I should have pluralised "page" but not "article" < 1332153029 97852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm feeling very *Wikipedia*, time to move the main page to Esolang:Main page < 1332153033 339976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the wikipedia main page, naturally) < 1332153040 152100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that /is/ the correct name for Esolang, right? < 1332153089 872558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is something kind of horrifyingly awesome about that < 1332153098 554296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase p on "Main page"? wouldn't uppercase be better? < 1332153115 312480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that we'll still need a redirect from the old location pretty much forever < 1332153118 54263 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the sidebar entry is "Main page", and the default community portal page was changed to [[Project:Community portal]] < 1332153119 525495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from Portal < 1332153128 864607 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i presume it's the intended capitalisation of pages like that < 1332153137 909324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1332153154 444610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, right up until I invent my esolang Main Page < 1332153159 768310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my suggestion on Wikipedia was "Portal:Main", but "Esolang:Main" doesn't make sense < 1332153184 117549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my real preferred solution was to rename it to the null string < 1332153189 186244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently MediaWiki doesn't support that < 1332153191 173896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish MW used /wiki/ as the URL for the main page, so it didn't expose the title < 1332153194 476715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, pseudo-snap < 1332153207 685610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I could make it do that with some kind of hook, but: blergh < 1332153216 720779 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Main_page is a really ugly url. < 1332153228 159502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind-of ugly even without the Esolang: < 1332153258 552069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1332153283 118091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page at least makes /sense/, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Main_page is massively redundant and has a random colon in it < 1332153338 122402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest something like http://esolangs.org/wiki/wiki.php/Esolang:Main_page?namespace=Esolang&title=Main_page&wiki=esolangs, if you can manage it. < 1332153408 368538 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www14.esolangs.org/load.pl?/cgi-bin/esolang/mediawiki/wiki.phtml?title=Esolang:Main_page&PHPSESSID=59aa95ad46cd67d82ba0f812407326dd < 1332153437 194347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it fails with any other PHPSESSID? < 1332153448 146691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just redirects you to the correct one :) < 1332153448 959397 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: naturally; load.pl is a load balancer < 1332153455 159996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the PHPSESSID is the session of the proxy server < 1332153466 924810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also means that only one person can be logged in at any one time < 1332153494 500840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: gah, we have a debugger like that that we're using for our GPU programming < 1332153506 730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one person across the whole department can debug a GPU program at a time < 1332153509 231796 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1332153519 728019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but do you get to share their debugging? < 1332153523 999721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a licensing restriction, it's a complicated technical restriction < 1332153530 185752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with this system, admins just log in, work *really fast*, then log out before anyone can do anything < 1332153536 852228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could use screen or something to do that < 1332153598 361788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, now I'm actually looking at how to override the URL of the main page < 1332153605 240511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like they introduced a very convenient hook for it ........... in 1.19 < 1332153790 911628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this gives you a perfect excuse to procrastinate! < 1332153795 328250 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (strpos($url, $wgScript.'?') !== false) { < 1332153809 735981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a /reason/ to write a conditional like that in PHP? < 1332153812 296772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if yes, please don't tell me why < 1332153818 591297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, . is string concatenation there? < 1332153823 240353 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1332153829 455719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was method invocation for a moment < 1332153834 161662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would have been awesome but worrying < 1332153842 824092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :handy guide to reading php code: it's like perl but everything's dumb < 1332153864 104946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want a language that lets you call methods ? and isn't Smalltalk-like < 1332153873 441239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doing it in Smalltalk is too easy) < 1332153877 933089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess JavaScript does < 1332153903 765143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Lua lets you define them, but I'm not sure offhand if there's any way to call them < 1332153904 802045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've convinced mediawiki that the URL to the main page is /wiki/ < 1332153909 242861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still redirects that to /wiki/Main_Page < 1332154053 602622 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, look what i did http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332154058 797266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the next 5 seconds before i fix it < 1332154068 256853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :four < 1332154070 13194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three < 1332154071 379908 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :two < 1332154073 44944 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one < 1332154079 308854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed your chance < 1332154092 23094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to Esolang, the wiki!" does have a nice ring to it < 1332154103 879989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "Learn" is an excellent bullet point < 1332154132 292484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"View the". < 1332154144 722760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Discuss the wiki on the". < 1332154146 242542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1332154150 346777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, liked. < 1332154159 133801 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why not ?" < 1332154168 903420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Otherwise, you could help out with a ." < 1332154193 624187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You'll probably want to find out what on earth an is in the first place." < 1332154221 321446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very horse_ebooks. < 1332154388 505361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332154391 289009 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332154406 314877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Conservapedia runs PHP via CGI < 1332154425 910493 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1332154427 600523 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... well... to be expected, I suppsoe < 1332154428 377703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell? < 1332154429 367215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*suppose < 1332154433 302830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://conservapedia.com/Special:Version < 1332154436 466594 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1332154443 873813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm guessing you somehow managed to make all links not show up? or edited them out of the page? < 1332154466 704784 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made my function insert an HTML comment whenever it's called upon to talk about a link < 1332154479 617210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it messed up every link, and also forced the TOC into the main page and things like that < 1332154497 380067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you say "live production environment" I say "test server" < 1332154511 648224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does esolang run PHP? FCGI? < 1332154530 865605 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FastCGI via the php-fpm daemon, plugged into nginx. < 1332154531 859962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess I should've just Special:Version'd. < 1332154551 586958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nonono, I'm perfectly happy to gloat about my setup considering the pain it took to set up. < 1332154571 887282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I mentioned that /w/ doesn't really exist, the relevant scripts are all mapped to a completely different filesystem path? < 1332154663 632027 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, when's Eurovision? < 1332154673 606054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; Wikipedia probably does < 1332154675 767431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good question < 1332154680 671976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hey, when's Eurovision? < 1332154689 433091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's reasonably soonishly. < 1332154698 260035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1332154700 308879 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hey, when's Eurovision? < 1332154701 549957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :26 may is the final < 1332154706 337786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 and 24 may are the semifinals < 1332154709 703291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just looked it up < 1332154710 820639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not *so* soon. < 1332154715 43031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would've guessed April. < 1332154722 129377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Thanks, I was looking for a FINNISH QUALITY ANSWER though. < 1332154733 377728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's after NetHack Apocalypse Day, which I really need to prepare for < 1332154739 629900 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, what's that? < 1332154739 792229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I suppose I should've known, because it was when we were in Paris, and that was probably May. < 1332154756 963434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a secret that isn't really all that secret, and I invented the name for it just now < 1332154765 955602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're planning it for april 1 so that nobody believes it when it happens < 1332154772 545231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so that we can back out of it really easily < 1332154802 31185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fun fact: you can back out of pretty much anything that isn't illegal if you do it on april 1) < 1332154813 64985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nitrohack is being released as nethack 4.0.0? < 1332154817 498378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with merged acehack? < 1332154843 879916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it's more complex than that < 1332154847 651511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this stunned silence is the silence of TRUTH rather than typing delay < 1332154849 37880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and requires the coordination of quite a lot of people < 1332154857 739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "...without the devteam's consent"? < 1332154859 451550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 3 < 1332154866 101149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's more than we managed last year < 1332154877 991337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even finished merging NiceHack yet, though < 1332154903 885321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't one of the DevTeam complain about the platform support you're dropping? Are you going to kill them? < 1332154950 899899 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is the silence of truth again. < 1332154973 254231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence of reading another window, pinging me helps if you want a quick answer < 1332154981 112885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1332154984 204465 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer it to be the silence of truth. < 1332155001 478644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my solution, unlike daniel_t's, is to say that I'm supporting a small set of platforms to start with just to get something moving, and willing to expand as people willing to test and send in patches are found < 1332155002 157789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silence of LAMBS. < 1332155017 299903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this viewpoint is actually probably equivalent to his, but less controversial < 1332155042 869032 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes the devteam consent question remains pointedly unanswered. < 1332155055 788040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, we're not getting their consent for this < 1332155081 788637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what we really need? someone at Debian to mistake it for not an april fool's thing and package it up < 1332155100 960196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't tell how much of an April Fool's Joke this is. < 1332155115 360614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realise Debian are far too serious to let an April Fool's Joke stay in if they realise later, right? < 1332155227 279699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they package INTERCAL! < 1332155261 239907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as long as it hits testing with the new major version, they can't subsequently reduce the major version number < 1332155274 372235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't hit testing. < 1332155275 464536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'd either have to add a majorer version number to let them drop it back down to 3.4.3, or lie and call it 4.4.3 or something < 1332155282 311286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, OK < 1332155317 949797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I thought you meant you were actually planning a coup. < 1332155322 276085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was more interesting. < 1332155419 422876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we might go onto a coup < 1332155424 530839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the april 1 thing is well-received < 1332155571 443907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can you fix this hook? < 1332155583 110510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in PHP, so no < 1332155590 632631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in my current state of tiredness < 1332155724 842949 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd ask #mediawiki, but I think they'd start yelling at me not to do that. < 1332155757 943601 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1332155765 185477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tell past elliott he's a moron < 1332155790 657195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm no good at retroactive IRC < 1332155997 408229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that was interesting, I momentarily made [[Talk:Main Page]] the main page < 1332156068 334419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for any particular reason? or by mistake? < 1332156077 99589 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Why am I awake? < 1332156091 452990 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to sleep at 22:whatever or so and woke up. < 1332156112 808413 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to be nice and properly awake 12 hours from now. < 1332156124 655738 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you solutionise my problem? < 1332156172 329384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What time is it? < 1332156178 418443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh dear, now I'm getting annoyed at /w/ URLs too < 1332156274 703182 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's 04:24 < 1332156307 896391 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Morning! < 1332156787 741599 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: HELP < 1332156798 451505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hi < 1332156805 873333 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm tired now. < 1332156809 31042 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will I be in 12 hours? < 1332156815 212445 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: go to slep < 1332156877 814683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : in the GetLocalURL hook, $url is a path, but in GetFullURL, it's a full URL, right? i.e. you can't just use the same function for both hooks, their input/output is different < 1332156877 976921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why do you need to override GetFullURL? < 1332156924 590680 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What channel is that? < 1332156937 288237 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't be in channels that I'm not in! < 1332157068 83354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is str_replace( '$1', '', '/wiki/$1' ) not '/wiki/'? :( < 1332157091 794909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguments in a different order, perhaps? < 1332157113 506054 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixed str_replace ( mixed $search , mixed $replace , mixed $subject [, int &$count ] ) < 1332157113 667537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This function returns a string or an array with all occurrences of search in subject replaced with the given replace value. < 1332157116 438313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks correct to me. < 1332157133 752956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh. < 1332157137 754719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$wgArticlePath = '/wiki/$1'; < 1332157142 945136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This gets mutated into /wiki/The_Actual_Title. < 1332157149 585384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because PHP's globals reset on every request. < 1332157153 64387 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm crying. < 1332157162 618398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who chose to mutate the template into its output? < 1332157170 24438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't really globals < 1332157201 978411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're request variables. < 1332157216 508908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1332157255 931887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1332157258 20442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that I forgot < 1332157261 508511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :global $wgArticlePath; < 1332157264 995085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it was just using the empty string instead. < 1332157310 265891 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, the reason /wiki/ was redirecting to /wiki/Main_Page is that I configured nginx to do that < 1332157454 940579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :another 20-second error: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332157475 231372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix'et < 1332157651 247290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fizzie: group-ping < 1332157669 599515 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1332157672 322413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode have a simplified group registration form now, that's just for freenode (rather than PDPC), and requests much less information < 1332157687 409020 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means we could secure #esoteric and get it out the way with a lot easier, since they're processed quicker. < 1332157758 967198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting < 1332157774 740047 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://freenode.net/grf-f.php -- Primary; Informal Group; Single, discrete group; esoteric; http://esolangs.org/; #esoteric,#esoteric-* for the first few values seems right < 1332157790 86243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, #esoteric-* might be wrong < 1332157801 617846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-minecraft probably shouldn't fall under its jurisdiction, for instance < 1332157845 640479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's a channel that was spun off in order to deflect away offtopic material < 1332157855 876674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does #irp count along the same lines? it's basically just a honeypot for Reddit < 1332157857 83162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but #esoteric-the-group should not own it < 1332157883 495142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just #esoteric < 1332157891 174736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we care about #esoteric-offtopic or #esoteric-blah? < 1332157891 915477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it asks for your role in the project, and suggests you should be senior; if the URL is esolangs.org, that suggests ais523 should do it < 1332157895 763318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else I should op fizzie or oerjan < 1332157898 269108 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sysop < 1332157904 22756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i doubt it < 1332157951 774186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Small blurb about project" -- it's going to take some full-time bullshitting to pretend we're on the organisational level of something that could be called a "project" ;) < 1332157957 816276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :[DEAR FREENODE STAFFERS: I AM KIDDING.] < 1332158016 303688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh dear, after all that effort, MediaWiki thwarts me < 1332158018 918395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploration of insufficiently explored theories of programming language design < 1332158030 920712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it gets an empty path info, it ends up convinced that it needs to redirect < 1332158032 910137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make it sound relevant and ontopic when I need to! < 1332158043 685279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you patch that check out? < 1332158054 687567 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332158060 941732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but I'd rather reconfigure the webserver to send the main page's title as the pathinfo if you request /wiki/ < 1332158069 207638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, that's not relevant and on-topic, strictly < 1332158073 711709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode is about "open projects", not tech < 1332158077 312564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean, it's obviously not /off-topic/) < 1332158079 62153 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332158088 187546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, reusing the wiki blurb of "Dedicated to the fostering and documentation of programming languages designed to be unique, difficult to program in, or just plain weird." < 1332158089 689082 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is probably better < 1332158095 227115 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since "fostering" sounds all community-spirit-like < 1332158103 83803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1332158111 903556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking from the academic point of view < 1332158139 493959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, this would be a lot easier if we just registered an organisation called "esoteric" < 1332158198 387275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you filling it out seems reasonable, as long as enough of the other people who help to run this channel agree < 1332158209 815336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on their rules for who should be primary contact < 1332158219 198878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, it uses recaptcha < 1332158234 469001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, I doubt someone who isn't an op would be considered a good contact < 1332158241 781637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I see an excellent solution to this problem :) < 1332158251 321161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear… < 1332158256 333376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, good point < 1332158268 322196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(MY NEFARIOUS PLAN IS FINALLY COMING TOGETHER) < 1332158273 864751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should probably be fizzie as senior op, then < 1332158286 28954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan was opped recently enough that chanserv remembers whne it happened, as was I < 1332158291 664447 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the thing is that they use the URL to verify the claim < 1332158294 502704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and consider it the project URL < 1332158300 621627 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie isn't a senior staffer of esolangs.org, our project < 1332158306 795282 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is called esoteric) < 1332158315 425345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need someone who's an op and a wiki-admin < 1332158320 849028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, I could just wiki-admin fizzie. < 1332158334 890528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you need to be a server admin anyway, for the confirmation? < 1332158337 71633 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332158351 632775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not completely implausible that a community might want separation of powers between their website and IRC channel, though < 1332158356 695514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think it's a "put this HTML thing on your website" < 1332158365 626698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a "we'll look at your project website and verify your claim to be it on IRC" < 1332158396 950478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it would be really convenient to own esoteric. for this... < 1332158399 336661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1332158419 790578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a human involved, we can explain easily enough < 1332158457 572150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the community portal should be our URL instead, or something < 1332158469 75766 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and yes, but this is /freenode/, that'll slow it down by ten years < 1332158510 464608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who runs the esolang mailing list on sange.fi? and does it still exist? < 1332158529 650124 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa < 1332158533 835249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, umm, technically, I think < 1332158540 333058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "esolang" is irrelevant to us, it's "esoteric" we care about < 1332158554 53394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last thing we want is a staffer saying "OK, all good, just move to #esolangs now!" < 1332158569 154485 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY #esolangs < 1332158582 438635 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bset chanenlelal < 1332158646 824657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why? < 1332158651 333927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd help avoid confusion < 1332158654 989564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because that defeats the whole point? < 1332158659 412008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what whole point? < 1332158669 800359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason to register a group is to keep #esoteric, it's otherwise a completely nonsense process < 1332158670 276157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esolang is probably a better name, come to think of it < 1332158674 420407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's not < 1332158685 545407 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's name is secretly Eric. < 1332158690 379246 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He likes having a channel named after him. < 1332158692 498751 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esot Eric. < 1332158702 761485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, esolang is a contraction for "esoteric language", and we thought the language was redundant as we're on Freenode < 1332158709 461735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we"? < 1332158713 55509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you weren't _around_ in 2002 < 1332158745 468794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, "esoteric topics in computer programming" =/= "esoteric programming languages" exclusively < 1332158753 61611 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esolangs is a far more inaccurate name < 1332158756 16058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also believe it's taken < 1332158757 904111 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's ugly < 1332158767 174288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm projecting < 1332158817 675075 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You should rename this channel "esoterick" < 1332158822 152233 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoterick.org is available. < 1332158889 564084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: As an operator, I agree. < 1332158892 259888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm an op now, right? < 1332158911 278403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too tired to consider the merits of opping or otherwise someone right now < 1332158921 176800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, you're starting to remind me uncomfortably of kerio < 1332158927 255919 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Making elliott an op would be the biggest mistake you could ever make. < 1332158931 654557 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the last one. < 1332158934 14818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: excellent, the less thoughtful you are the more likely you'll op me < 1332158936 848784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who among other things keeps continuously nagging me to fill out GRFs for AceHack < 1332158957 237194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he /is/ opped in #acehack, but we have the settings such that he can't deal too much damage < 1332158962 420012 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glaucoma Research Foundation? < 1332158968 958256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I thought AceHack was busy being deconstructed < 1332158971 137737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :group registration form < 1332158986 222971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's being merged with nitrohack, which is typically discussed in #unnethack (and sometimes #acehack) < 1332158991 969286 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't trust kerio. < 1332158994 433836 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever that is. < 1332158995 493805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but channels all have their own communities < 1332159016 825827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#unnethack's become the de-facto channel for discussing variants as a set (as opposed to particular variants) < 1332159024 983053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, there's no #nitrohack yet? < 1332159035 254535 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#conethack < 1332159049 715085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, there is, but nobody's there but kerio < 1332159070 51680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #grunthack was created really recently, mostly to have a place to put the announcebot < 1332159083 263858 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about toft? You're much better off with toft as an op. < 1332159093 849251 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: am I an op yet? < 1332159115 325229 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://iselliottanopyet.com/ < 1332159125 768734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"YES" < 1332159126 990704 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Elliott A NOP Yet? < 1332159128 269711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says yes ais523 < 1332159129 144386 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"YES" < 1332159132 482698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring reality in line with reality < 1332159135 428893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can ask chanserv, probably faster than getting a response from me < 1332159141 504587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says yes < 1332159141 868787 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Make elliott a nop. < 1332159142 574059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: please tell me you just registered that :) < 1332159149 623043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also says ais523 has to make me into an op before i can use it < 1332159153 600310 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... Elliott *already* does nothing! < 1332159154 682177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a test of your faith < 1332159173 204152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "ISELLIOTTANOPYET.COM". < 1332159177 697693 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nope, it's free. < 1332159182 939400 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go ahead and take it. < 1332159192 956261 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Free as in unregistered, not free as in lunch or speech. < 1332159203 375567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Free as in unregistered, not free as in lunch or speech. < 1332159213 208620 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :825) Free as in unregistered, not free as in lunch or speech. < 1332159214 948820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159216 109275 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote s'f'slg;sd'sdfjhklf;sdklfjdfklgj < 1332159216 271153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159217 764118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159219 174721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159219 651040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody delete that one < 1332159220 798400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159223 180897 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my pet quote now < 1332159227 975992 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :92) let's put that in the HackEgo quotes files, just to completely mystify anyone who looks back along them in the future < 1332159229 320220 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will survive forever and nobody will know why < 1332159231 16259 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :587) elliott_: it's a machine that looks like you! < 1332159231 608198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shall I delete a good one to make room for it? < 1332159233 348798 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote s'f'slg;sd'sdfjhklf;sdklfjdfklgj < 1332159233 898246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332159235 114121 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :449) the thing about modern semiconductor design is, 0s are more powerful as 1s < 1332159242 186274 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159242 804263 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) s'f'slg;sd'sdfjhklf;sdklfjdfklgj < 1332159243 711086 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :86) Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. < 1332159244 1700 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :702) Yeah, statistics with 2 data points is science. Statistics with one data point is crap. You measure a third point if you need an error estimate. < 1332159246 52441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I meant "than 1s" < 1332159253 460487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 86 < 1332159257 373990 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Sgeo_: Gregorr: and someone could, by mistake, rewrite psox to be a weak erection if it is... A filename. < 1332159259 781895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete an elliott quote to make room for an elliott quote < 1332159261 458627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I agree with that < 1332159266 357041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deleting 86, that is < 1332159281 859839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159282 497464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159283 36150 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159283 514836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159283 923797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1332159291 251739 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :333) A priori one cannot say that post hoc ergo propter hoc the diminishing returns would give; yet under quid pro quo one can agglutinate fabula and sujet into vagrancies untold. See? I'm intellectual. < 1332159296 532411 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :230) And to think: if only we wouldn't celebrate birthdays, there would be no birthday paradox, and we could get by with half as long hash functions. (What do you mean it doesn't work that way?) < 1332159297 876831 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 826 < 1332159298 582750 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332159300 872732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 92 is /my/ pet 825 < 1332159303 604909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1332159307 33467 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159307 332038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's numbered 825 now < 1332159308 694462 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1332159309 90306 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :127) alise: mainly it's the fact it blows so hard i cannot avoid hitting the walls of the thing, which completely goes against my basic public toilet hygiene principles < 1332159311 117585 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :501) Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new < 1332159312 390314 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 825 < 1332159314 768703 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :794) damn i should make a quasiquoter for inline FORTRAN < 1332159317 304554 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* s'f'slg;sd'sdfjhklf;sdklfjdfklgj < 1332159324 580975 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 105 < 1332159327 179745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1332159336 749307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 501 < 1332159337 43508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does that actually go back 105 revisions? < 1332159340 820200 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* Speaking of the CiSRA puzzles, anyone want to form a team i avoid my duties by carefully never registering to anything new < 1332159342 647811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it goes back to revision 105 < 1332159345 974312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, OK < 1332159354 429746 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`UNDELETE.EXE 825 < 1332159357 736589 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: UNDELETE.EXE: not found < 1332159378 939477 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1332159391 418281 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unacceptable. < 1332159399 351469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch UNDELETE.EXE < 1332159402 579261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159417 344649 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`DELTREE /y C:\*.* < 1332159420 135554 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: DELTREE: not found < 1332159440 459959 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/revert < 1332159443 937494 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/revert: No such file or directory < 1332159451 635199 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which revert < 1332159455 416847 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159458 25934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo now this file will be strangely hard to empty completely >> canary < 1332159461 364212 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159464 455913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not really /that/ hard < 1332159466 392890 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1332159468 987887 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :now this file will be strangely hard to empty completely < 1332159500 16254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: the only reason canary was empty beforehand was that it used to say that and someone decided to test it < 1332159504 624888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: may not be a true fact) < 1332159513 320271 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :False fact: elliott is now an op < 1332159522 914435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo chirp >canary < 1332159524 685089 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :canaries chirp right < 1332159525 88684 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: May not be a false fact) < 1332159526 111994 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159534 599405 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run canary run < 1332159537 519362 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: canary: command not found < 1332159538 173513 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canaries run right < 1332159660 219685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1332159663 146788 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1332159677 856635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need something in there about a canary's typical reaction to a cat (which is based on a cat's typical reaction to a canary) < 1332159688 452691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm canary < 1332159691 422314 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159695 727699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :canaries chirp at everything < 1332159696 495356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1332159697 110511 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was correct < 1332159699 603795 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1332159701 159532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still is < 1332159704 869366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't delete canary :) < 1332159709 542159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh :P < 1332159733 796181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm canary && mkdir canary < 1332159736 856629 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159739 629660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat canary < 1332159742 636523 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: canary: No such file or directory < 1332159748 743041 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't you delete canary? < 1332159750 151700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1332159753 736722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hg doesn't track empty directories < 1332159760 976797 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now every commit will fail until we recreate it < 1332159763 328813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi >foo < 1332159766 92502 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159769 257615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat foo < 1332159769 825768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a few seconds... < 1332159770 383041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat foo < 1332159772 17515 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: foo: No such file or directory < 1332159778 690363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1332159782 713313 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: foo: No such file or directory < 1332159787 33880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be useful to lock out certain people from the bot :P < 1332159788 32873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo chirp >canary < 1332159790 986883 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332159801 18273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor might want to fix this canary bug < 1332159801 308783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159810 447861 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1332159815 146518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: isn't he called RocketJSquirrel? < 1332159819 524659 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-03-19#122213ais523 < 1332159819 764892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159823 278496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION demands he changes back to Friendship < 1332159826 218246 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell RocketJSquirrel check messages as Gregor < 1332159826 416501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159834 178240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Friendship check messages as RocketJSquirrel < 1332159834 585594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159843 419943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell GregorR check messages as Friendship < 1332159843 676596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159846 922422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor check messages as GregorR < 1332159847 199965 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332159849 129612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1332159863 813669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering about doing that, but decided against it < 1332159889 195301 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is ais523 your real name? < 1332159891 556241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that at least one of those is very likely to end up ending with no messages? < 1332159892 690943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332159897 73709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you consider to be a real name? < 1332159903 493337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the idea is that all of them get cleared < 1332159906 722534 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Or is your real name "(this is obviously not my real name)"? < 1332159912 848274 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How should I know? < 1332159914 771245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332159916 991900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that obviously isn't my real name < 1332159945 785721 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"obvious isn't" /= "is obviously not" < 1332159962 524836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I say they were the same? < 1332159972 543725 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say you said they were the same? < 1332159988 690271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did I say that you said that I said they were the same? < 1332160003 773110 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1332160014 919330 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: The previous statement is false.) < 1332160033 154753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog you said that I said < 1332160037 908061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have to check! < 1332160057 888810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Put the main page at /wiki/ rather than /wiki/Title_of_Main_Page < 1332160061 949651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :function fnMainPageLink( $title, $url, $query, $variant = false ) { < 1332160061 949836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : global $wgArticlePath; < 1332160061 949948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : if ( $title->isMainPage() && $query == '' && $variant === false ) { < 1332160061 950187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : $url = str_replace( '$1', '', $wgArticlePath ); < 1332160061 950359 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1332160061 950464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : return true; < 1332160062 137399 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You didn't say it in public. < 1332160062 408173 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1332160062 770823 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1C65D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332160064 401189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$wgHooks['GetLocalURL'][] = 'fnMainPageLink'; < 1332160065 843840 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332160066 413005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1332160074 775685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think I've ever talked to you in not-public < 1332160085 952664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently I have < 1332160092 838452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the one line, though < 1332160098 302409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was related to #vacuum < 1332160100 416672 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have? < 1332160108 153941 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's #vacuum? < 1332160121 912785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, literal facepalm < 1332160150 269467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you just tell shachaf to persuade me to go there without telling him what it was called? < 1332160158 945772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because according to client history, he never mentioned the nam < 1332160160 886135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*name < 1332160164 815487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, that would be hilarious < 1332160168 924128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have no idea what you're talking about. < 1332160191 890956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, #vacuum is registered. < 1332160192 52777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is unsure if he wants to believe that < 1332160203 595489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And invite-only, apparently. < 1332160217 690658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it is registered; ChanServ wouldn't let me see its access list < 1332160224 760020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which implies that someone owns it to be able to configure it to do that < 1332160239 226198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much for "open" projects HA < 1332160239 844483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160240 517673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160241 133926 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160241 787888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160242 419280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160243 51087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160244 175088 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160246 44669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160247 917910 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160248 79809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160250 31318 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH < 1332160252 54159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1332160254 56846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160256 61907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160258 63201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160260 67161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160262 66692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160264 69923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH < 1332160264 232326 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1332160266 74553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA < 1332160268 76366 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1332160270 79394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA < 1332160272 82866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHA < 1332160274 114058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHAHA < 1332160276 89513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHA < 1332160278 4328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKOKOKOKOKO < 1332160280 274705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKOKOKOKOKOKOKOKO < 1332160282 96025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: remember #? it was agora-related, also it wasn't a cow, nor not a cow < 1332160282 258189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1332160284 99635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1332160286 127260 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1332160288 107993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1332160290 108311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokoko < 1332160292 112504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1332160294 116440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1332160294 763787 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA < 1332160295 22964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "ion!ion@heh.fi", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA"]} rest:" < 1332160295 209554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \"freenode\", msgLBName = \"lambdabot\", msgPrefix = \"ion!ion@heh.fi\", msgCommand = \"PRIVMSG\", msgParams = [\"#esoteric\",\":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA\ < 1332160295 371907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"]} rest:\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\"freenode\\\", msgLBName = \\\"lambdabot\\\", msgPrefix = \\\"ion!ion@heh.fi\\\", msgCommand = \\\"PRIVMSG\\\", msgParams = [\\\"#esoteric\\\",\\\":@@ < 1332160295 372084 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA\\\"]} rest:\\\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\\\\\"freenode\\\\\\\", msgLBName = \\\\\\\"lambdabot\\\\\\\", msgPrefix = \\\\\\\"ion!ion@heh.fi\\\\\\\", < 1332160295 372191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :msgCommand = \\\\\\\"PRIVMSG\\\\\\\", msgParams = [\\\\\\\"#esoteric\\\\\\\",\\\\\\\":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA\\\\\\\"]} rest:\\\\\\\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" < 1332160296 124685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1332160297 22572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", msgLBName = \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"lambdabot\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", msgPrefix = \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"ion!ion@heh.fi\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", msgCommand = \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"PRIVMSG\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\", < 1332160298 122626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokoko < 1332160299 43809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :msgParams = [\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"#esoteric\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\",\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\":@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo HA\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"]} rest:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"HA\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"" < 1332160300 125854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokoko < 1332160302 153482 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: FUCK YOU RUINED MY FUCKING TOWER JEEZ < 1332160307 520555 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Does it start with an a and end with an oecabal? < 1332160311 645670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332160327 314495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apointlessshoecabal? < 1332160327 476387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost as locked-down as #vacuum nowadays < 1332160335 94243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1332160875 409989 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332161027 309356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see there's been some project-registration talk. < 1332161041 349611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was busily making some slides.) < 1332161095 430924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that's funny; http://esolangs.org/ gives an autogenerated directory index right now. < 1332161139 929179 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's because it's being run incompetently. < 1332161164 383834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed. < 1332161192 774204 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected http://esolangs.org/ to say "I HATE YOU FIZZIE" < 1332161304 524761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'm not the one who brought up the "i word" here. < 1332161305 914210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But yes; AFAICT it should be relatively simple to solidify our claim on #esoteric and also give out esoteric cloaks. < 1332161306 413398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332161309 511636 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noone could have suspected who was about to join the channel next. < 1332161335 587106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The easiest options are either I wiki-sysop you and you do it, or I get opped here and do it. CLEARLY ONE OF THESE IS PREFERABLE. < 1332161366 688355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332161368 835108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you get the cabal's (there is no cabal) opinions on that? < 1332161389 658290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, these #esoteric ops. So willing to accept power, so unwilling to share it. < 1332161391 731605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also from elsewhere: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109925364564856140495/posts "Unicode character LOCH NESS MONSTER EMERGING FROM SINK DRAIN (U+2A18)". < 1332161405 498572 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatedly, I have desysopped everyone else on the wiki and deleted all pages apart from [[User:ehird]]. < 1332161452 297107 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Can I have an esoteric cloak? < 1332161471 19184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I promise to ONLY guarantee this if I'm the one who does it. < 1332161480 677788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, CFJ 2613 was awesome < 1332161488 554052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a pity the judge didn't take it seriously < 1332161783 986722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332161786 656306 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1332161798 22990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1332161798 286753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1332161801 520776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1332161801 920776 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 6h 1s ago: Thank you for that list of rules, by the way; they turned into my featured language selection guidelines. < 1332161803 956159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you make me an op or i make either you or fizzie a wiki sysop < 1332161810 275127 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for important reasons < 1332161818 314723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1332161830 524114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually is though! < 1332161835 324376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :group registration. < 1332161845 755968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1332161851 472384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i can't make fizzie a wiki sysop because < 1332161854 731832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU DECIDE. < 1332161861 952337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you do realize ais523 is also an op? < 1332161868 533650 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, he's not senior enough < 1332161871 495731 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically neither are you < 1332161876 571507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leaves us with only one option < 1332161912 102902 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. < 1332162081 70715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you _still_ make me more prominent than the unmentioned language author. also i'd have expected something more famous as the first language. otoh /// may be the most interesting language _not_ yet featured anywhere outside esolang. hm. < 1332162116 202322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you mean we're meant to reward the creators for being featured? < 1332162119 697777 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonsense. < 1332162138 879141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I picked /// by fiat, I rather suspect all future pickings will be by fiat because nobody will bother to propose < 1332162141 775398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cannot tell if elliott is ironic or not < 1332162152 912711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on that note, please propose Deadfish as a candidate, it's for scientific reasons < 1332162184 391132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mostly i could not see an obvious way to work [[User:ihope127]] into the blurb. < 1332162185 900258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think deadfish should be featured some time, we should have _some_ joke languages on occasion. < 1332162189 250190 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :without it detracting from the interesting parts. < 1332162236 303351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i was planning to make the deadfish blurb go something like "Deadfish is the greatest programming language ever. It is really just the best. It can add, subtract, ''square'' '''and''' output integers! [...]" < 1332162249 701700 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most interactivest programming language! < 1332162258 416999 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway feel free to suggest a way to work ihope127 into the blurb. < 1332162259 709660 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Problem exists between leopard and chair" < 1332162453 922682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "Invented by our [[user:ihope127]], its only operation [...]" < 1332162474 120428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"our" is tacky, but apart from that ok < 1332162477 586942 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-244-159.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332162485 340922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1332162486 381178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually by ok i mean i'll just reword it differently < 1332162502 332059 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...hope i wasn't accidentally encouraging there. < 1332162524 522620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, relax the User: policy to "user [[User:ihope127|ihope127]]" < 1332162536 105877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HE PROPOSED RELAXING THE POLICY < 1332162549 159931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :only for the featured language blurbs < 1332162551 160720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: calm down! < 1332162560 602510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :HE PROPOSED RELAXING THE POLICY < 1332162563 636819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway credit added < 1332162564 37702 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-205-211.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332162571 183814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, it should be [[Tanner L. Swett]] < 1332162593 15666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he likes associating ihope with that name. < 1332162648 128864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it would actually be [[Ivan Hope Stupidromannumerals]] < 1332162665 69451 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-230-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332162698 578828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you mean it isn't his real name? < 1332162740 139952 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, ivan hope? no. < 1332162761 242086 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, i heard the word our in keeping up appearances < 1332162796 270529 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"our rose" < 1332162829 574762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: i was planning to make the deadfish blurb go something like "Deadfish is the greatest [...] <-- well i guess next month _is_ April... < 1332162917 306301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: ^ you might want to comment on how you wish to be credited < 1332162937 152750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um well it's being credited as [[User:ihope127]] unless an article miraculously materialises that's associated with ihope127. < 1332162946 777176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and ah, this implies we're not doing the hectic 2-weeks thing. < 1332162947 528715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suggests an FAC < 1332162949 502416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1332162961 402615 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /an/? < 1332162963 672233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: er, implies how? < 1332162965 804776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, isn't the article about Graue at [[Catatonic Porpoise]] < 1332162970 251204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, you broke the rules! < 1332162974 231763 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1332162975 655441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "an" is correct if you don't expand the acronym < 1332162977 559345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because you said month. < 1332162978 650712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in what way? < 1332162988 989842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, oops < 1332162993 277283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: correction, I wrote the rules wrong < 1332162997 370945 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... they're written now < 1332163000 426373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1332163006 345990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess we have new rules now, and you followed them correctly < 1332163006 508016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so go fix them < 1332163013 128559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not implied, it could also be just the first 2 weeks of April. < 1332163014 191962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :admit I'm wrong? never < 1332163017 270426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right i just realised that :P < 1332163025 503340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what did you intend to make a rule that you didn't? < 1332163040 980058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to omit the signature... but I forget why < 1332163049 91569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: otoh /// won't get a full 2 weeks even if we change on April 1 < 1332163051 754612 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably I later decided not to for reasons I later forgot < 1332163056 376029 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-237-186.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332163068 682584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll probably leave /// up for a while. it might takes _days_ for someone to suggest deadfish. < 1332163081 6466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. < 1332163089 249979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, you did omit the signature; I went and edited the rules to require it when I made the suggestion >:) < 1332163091 530276 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another way to express silly stuff about featured languages might be a hall of fame of some kind, but it could get very large and all < 1332163100 933684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick ais523, pls < 1332163120 747289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least swat. < 1332163125 553867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how else can someone quickly check that they haven't nominated a different language? < 1332163132 327611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can delete the sigs before judging < 1332163137 234337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but they could just fake a signature! < 1332163146 201878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :naw, no point deleting the sigs, this is a completely biased process in every way < 1332163161 960488 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't raelly matter < 1332163163 504109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really < 1332163197 425493 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-230-198.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332163220 54464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, since you weren't around for the discussion, I came up with this system so that (a) people didn't have to suggest things _regularly_ i.e. there's no point expiring something just because it was proposed and not chosen last $timespan, < 1332163223 25015 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being stupid because I am visiting a peanut factory and I am allergic to peanuts. I just can't taste the immediate fruits of the experience without getting ill. < 1332163248 898159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: indeed < 1332163255 758709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) so that the list can be cleaned when it accumulates too much gunk, rather than having bad languages sit there forever, without hurting anyone's feelings, < 1332163263 463225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think it's worth having all the paradigm classics featured that aren't brainfuck < 1332163267 693001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (c) to require the minimum amount of effort on the part of everyone < 1332163284 566664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I decided we don't really need discussion of the candidates because I've never seen an esolang whose interestingness was actually /controversial/ < 1332163293 295552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, indeed < 1332163306 375576 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so all the discussion would be over things like whether the article is detailed enough < 1332163317 133669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which admins are already really good at determining, because they're experienced with the wiki < 1332163331 431810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ah yes, i heard the word our in keeping up appearances <-- OK, I THINK THAT ARGUMENT NAILS IT < 1332163355 435081 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I agree that paradigm classics should be featured, but I also think devoting the first like 7 timespans to the classics would be a bad idea < 1332163364 491417 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can be spread out, or it'll just get predictable early on < 1332163377 364374 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phrases like "Isn't that our hyacinth?" < 1332163405 881099 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw the only reason /// is the first one is because i used the blurb as a test for the design, since it has the interesting hook of being minimal but TC and the detail of how the proof was constructed < 1332163416 786102 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also because I like it < 1332163430 784114 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because of \\/\// < 1332163534 153617 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry... i'm just gonna afk for a bit till i snap to my senses < 1332163536 773310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oerjan: perhaps we should feature [[Esme]] sometime. < 1332163631 358437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm being stupid because I am visiting a peanut factory [...] <-- couldn't even this be dangerous, if there's peanut dust in the air or something? < 1332163733 660029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : also because of \\/\// <-- hey Qdeql also has that < 1332163744 128259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is endeavouring to only respond to things itidus20 said today. < 1332163752 507441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for maximum audience pleasure. < 1332163765 101693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that precise program was the data region skipper in my converter < 1332163840 502255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i agree with the spreading out, in fact it was implied by my rules list suggestion < 1332163852 742267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmph, your unlambda resources do not have a unique url of their own :P < 1332163869 725322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok so the page is practically all unlambda resources anyway.) < 1332163870 229528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, they're in the same directory < 1332163899 207000 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to find dates for Unlambda versions < 1332163903 286139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Unlambda 3 ever materialise? < 1332163908 981299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been pondering whether to rename index.html something else so people can actually see the rest of it < 1332163968 702767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332163998 777968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://quatramaran.ens.fr/pub/madore/unlambda/ ;; okay, let's say unlambda is 1999. < 1332164050 757224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has already suggested unlambda? i was considering doing that. < 1332164059 336565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais < 1332164061 133929 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'''Unlambda''', designed by [[David Madore]], is a minimal functional [[esoteric programming language]] based on [[combinatory logic]]. It is [[Turing-complete]] thanks to its built-in ''s'' and ''k'' combinators and the apply operator, ''`'' (backquote). Furthermore, some input/output functions are available. Unlambda is a functional [[Turing tarpit]]. < 1332164061 295742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda is essentially a version of combinatory logic. [...]" < 1332164074 243672 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this introduction is redundant, and repeats itself, a lot. it tends to say the same thing in different words < 1332164130 963167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: oerjan: perhaps we should feature [[Esme]] sometime. <-- er.... < 1332164168 973458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : did Unlambda 3 ever materialise? <-- i don't think so. < 1332164331 567058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332164384 274394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda is the first functional tarpit, right? < 1332164397 5809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1332164403 444929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even convinced it was intended as a tarpit < 1332164416 833869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially given that it has several instructions that are clearly redundant, like i and v) < 1332164426 254390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just intended as a functional language without lambda < 1332164431 169808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a job which it succeeds at admirably < 1332164440 551128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and c wasn't necessary in the first version, either < 1332164468 219684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only become entangled when he added input < 1332164525 380816 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cleans http://esolangs.org/wiki/Unlambda up a bit < 1332164544 935499 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :combinators section still needs organising, as does the meta-notation section < 1332164590 434242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, and I might add a section on programming in it (or rather, relambda) < 1332164641 298405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE META-NOTATION < 1332164650 405551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves in a huff < 1332164658 200455 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nothing. < 1332164664 297468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the meta-notation is fine. the wiki section is not. < 1332164677 670551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a start, it doesn't appear to have any idea what bulleted lists are for. < 1332164685 908993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1332164788 370497 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, the Pirate Bay are planning to start using tiny, airborne servers with radio transmitters to avoid raids. < 1332164849 71396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thanks for that fix, the process used to be on the featured languages page itsel < 1332164849 485168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1332164856 112875 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was too long and boring to go above the archive < 1332164893 16348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have the Pirate Bay decided that what they're doing is actually illegal yet? or are they just wondering why the police keep trying to shut them down? < 1332164943 200839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's very hard to argue the TPB are doing anything illegal in a capacity other than their service being intended for piracy. < 1332164949 776398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't even host .torrent files any more < 1332164967 306188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "We think that the investigation is interesting considering nothing that TPB does is illegal." --2012-03-09 < 1332164967 728565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's literally a search engine for plaintext descriptions combined with a hash < 1332164972 224828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So at least then they hadn't. < 1332164977 692576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's pretty recent < 1332164993 690714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt they "wonder" why the police are trying to shut them down. < 1332165012 154483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, why is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Featured_languages empty? [[:///]] is in it < 1332165013 916351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, I don't think they're doing anything illegal either; and yet people are trying so hard to get rid of them < 1332165016 994930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've tried purging both < 1332165043 989878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, the torrents they offer nowadays are DHT-based. < 1332165050 745646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bizarre < 1332165052 242214 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can't raid a distributed hash table. < 1332165061 387313 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the pirate bay is the only thing they /can/ try to shut down < 1332165095 317587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it matters, the category is from a template < 1332165096 682552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{featured}} < 1332165102 716243 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Featured&action=edit < 1332165105 890974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that /might/ matter < 1332165109 23233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you running the job queue? < 1332165119 959791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... don't know? < 1332165127 59620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you have to explicitly enable it if you want that stuff to be batch. < 1332165146 135716 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like complaining that the active user counter on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Statistics is still broken < 1332165162 5375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's normally the job queue that's responsible for category updates via templates < 1332165167 180114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I run it manually? < 1332165204 448576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed it, anyway, by null-editing the page < 1332165220 308390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1332165221 935312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just load the edit view, then click "save changes" without doing anything) < 1332165242 572803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that regenerates the page in a stronger way than merely purging does) < 1332165245 840814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I feel compelled to note that TPB actually using airborne servers is about as likely as them buying Sealand was.) < 1332165389 993603 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pft, "airborne servers". < 1332165395 510783 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://server-sky.com/ is the future. < 1332165397 628574 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why go halfway? < 1332165432 997740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "The most likely practical showstopper is misunderstanding. Working together, we can fix the latter." < 1332165441 764079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: This page is doing a great deal to turn me off its cause. < 1332165460 511068 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-237-186.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332165463 193496 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Are you sure you're not misunderstanding it? < 1332165554 53564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes, I'm sure. It's just irritating. < 1332165559 739264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1332165562 819951 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Kick shachaf. < 1332165564 667708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Swat shachaf. < 1332165581 844045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was quite a good joke… < 1332165630 931019 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf's entertaining the first time. < 1332165633 991682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then he keeps being shachaf. < 1332165656 415152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By the way, you still haven't fixed the chronology on http://home.nvg.org/~oerjan/agora-horoscope/. < 1332165672 717165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are 4,507 registered users, but most of them are spambots." :P < 1332165694 534192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mean it being oppositely ordered to what you wish? < 1332165721 226676 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: :-( < 1332165741 922455 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120312200651] < 1332165874 23943 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1332165875 157909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it's US date style. < 1332165883 663680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 - 3 - 1 < 1332165889 638725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Previously 2 - 1. < 1332165892 832045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 - 2 - 1 the obvious fix. < 1332165930 118210 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 - 2 - 3 < 1332165961 597413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Sure, if you want the relevant updates to be at the bottom. < 1332165986 32808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: By the way, don't actually fix it. < 1332166048 191968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1332166091 188543 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you going to swat me or not? < 1332166102 538406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats shachaf -----### < 1332166137 957128 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Are you going to kick shachaf or not? < 1332166164 470229 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENLARG3 Y0UR M0RTGAG3 < 1332166253 44650 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET RICH QUICK < 1332166265 135688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mortgage is enlarging itself just fine < 1332166271 283025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slowly, though < 1332166310 865009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait it's not a mortgage without security < 1332166314 212053 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's supposed to go the other way. < 1332166343 463732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will probably do that when i make another payment. < 1332166537 531183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought oerjan lived in a box. < 1332166630 104318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough. < 1332166664 160101 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y0U, T00, CAN ENLARG3 Y0UR MORTGAG3 WHIL3 L1V1NG 1N a B0X < 1332166671 849440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's student loan, not box loan < 1332166674 509501 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text "More featured languages..." doesn't exactly scream "if you click through here a couple of times, you can suggest a language" < 1332166674 783094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1332166679 531172 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1332166679 796910 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1h 54m 13s ago: check messages as Gregor < 1332166685 381027 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1332166719 592659 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332166725 871854 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1332166726 148011 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1h 55m 24s ago: might want to fix this canary bug < 1332166726 375140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1h 55m 5s ago: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-03-19#122213ais523 < 1332166726 537528 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 1h 54m 38s ago: check messages as GregorR < 1332166748 465406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recursion: see recurions < 1332166750 538503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sion < 1332166754 722959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor isn't gregorr < 1332166777 642235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell GregorR check messages as RocketJSquirrel < 1332166777 891148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332166781 332891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I FIXED THAT < 1332166791 202897 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ehird Fine, I'll fix it when I get around to it. < 1332166791 487900 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332166796 747139 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott check messages as ehird < 1332166797 31955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332166800 860117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Now check your messages as GregorR. < 1332166801 179387 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1332166808 147918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :ehird < 1332166814 244296 :ehird!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1332166817 197073 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lilo It might actually be offensive for me to leave this message. < 1332166817 502462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332166818 420638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1332166818 721676 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor said 21s ago: check messages as ehird < 1332166819 712872 :Gregor!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1332166823 338543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332166825 844444 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Ahem < 1332166830 373669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: You did not yet check your messages as GregorR. < 1332166839 424867 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1332166844 719679 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that message will fester there FOREVER. < 1332166847 708873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I left you messages as GregorR. < 1332166866 880264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you check them, please? I'm too lazy to re-send them. < 1332166871 280249 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them were in private, so you can't use the logs. < 1332166987 236585 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fungot You are a gentleman and a scholar. < 1332166987 520789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332166987 683071 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: wooh. you must've added your name in the same place < 1332166987 901366 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1332166988 760126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them were of a very ... private ... nature. < 1332167004 88966 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332167004 664350 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-248.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1332167004 826307 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332167013 341239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Recursion: See recurions. Recurions: Elementary particles that mediate the force of recursion, which see. < 1332167046 659837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Kick RocketJSquirrel if he doesn't check messages as GregorR. < 1332167064 2118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i cannot know if he has checked them < 1332167074 596488 :GregorR!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332167075 946834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll let you know. < 1332167077 120080 :GregorR!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1332167077 401269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any new messages. < 1332167079 447083 :GregorR!~RawIRC@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1332167084 645273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I consider that proof. < 1332167090 7874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Follow the instruction in the messages. < 1332167109 890725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :PREFERABLY PUBLICLY. < 1332167115 813707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :My private messages must be viewable to all. < 1332167166 769375 :Friendship!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332167171 578245 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott My Little Pony references are 20% cooler than recursive message-check requests. < 1332167171 845139 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167173 529823 :Friendship!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUESS WHO I AM? < 1332167182 22146 :Friendship!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1332167192 153907 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1332167202 401688 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, I killed friendship. < 1332167206 611119 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought it would come to this. < 1332167216 945996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not recursive. Honestly, you philistine. < 1332167217 187634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1332167247 423891 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure that's a lie. < 1332167253 78141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15:16: -!- ais523 has parted #esoteric ("before someone mentions Feather"). < 1332167253 240123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15:26: no, that's Feather < 1332167253 240324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:15:55: -!- ais523 has joined #esoteric. < 1332167255 465681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1332167309 713675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It's not, actually. < 1332167329 135931 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, there was no outgoing vertex from RocketJSquirrel. < 1332167335 785164 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just direct requests. < 1332167357 105068 :ehird!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332167366 861408 :ehird!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell RocketJSquirrel check messages as RocketJSquirrel < 1332167367 166719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167369 816316 :ehird!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1332167385 539349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: I like how you ruuuuined it by doing it privately. < 1332167387 929012 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asshole. < 1332167390 487137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan_ < 1332167394 535859 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1332167398 271695 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1332167399 895280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1332167422 395066 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan_ DIE FUCKER < 1332167422 636572 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167428 488652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: elliott is complicated, isn't he? < 1332167431 626461 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Phantom___Hoover I hate you. < 1332167431 889010 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167434 523539 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lament I lament your infrequent presence. < 1332167434 808152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167443 772657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell RocketJSquirrel Don't fucking summon him. < 1332167444 18620 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167453 980381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie_ ETERNAL POX UPON YOdo you even use this format. < 1332167454 221099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167460 947394 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell glogbackup FUCK YOU < 1332167461 214757 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1332167465 111819 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1332167473 334884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :fizzie_ < 1332167476 76072 :fizzie_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1332167476 421314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1332167480 573052 :fizzie_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :Phantom___Hoover < 1332167482 43796 :Phantom___Hoover!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1332167482 368149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1332167485 243131 :Phantom___Hoover!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :oerjan_ < 1332167486 866866 :oerjan_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1332167487 129156 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1332167488 860331 :oerjan_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1332167522 560990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalm < 1332167548 924668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1332167573 335813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope there were no real messages to any of them < 1332167573 856637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't "DIE FUCKER" what you call an erotic tabletop RPG player? < 1332167585 122624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can hardly trust lambdabot. < 1332167595 292275 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a lambdabot admin, by the way. < 1332167601 813028 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :He can read any @tell message. < 1332167602 863937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIE FUCKER AUS HAMBURG < 1332167605 343429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1332167623 388560 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot hi < 1332167623 628507 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1332167627 466928 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it when shachaf says things that sound really false but then they're actually not < 1332167658 936321 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yessir! That false-sounding thing I said? < 1332167662 352547 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually not. < 1332167670 520091 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1332167672 646535 :Phantom_Hoover!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im patnom hover < 1332167672 902389 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You have 4 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1332167679 590136 :Phantom_Hoover!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1332167682 681471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are all from me. < 1332167690 712471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I just cleared them. < 1332167698 137562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will then resend them when Phantom_Hoover is online. < 1332167705 744116 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, oerjan. < 1332167711 761072 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Prove you're a lambdabot admin. < 1332167713 386147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes end up as a "fizzie`" since that's what bip appends. < 1332167716 33395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + shachaf < 1332167717 314307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1332167723 998014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@flush < 1332167733 24046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know what admins can do. < 1332167734 727136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just am one. < 1332167741 800815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join < 1332167742 87087 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `system' failed with: Prelude.last: empty list < 1332167746 956750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@join #esoteric-proof < 1332167753 978233 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in there now. < 1332167760 538093 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1332167762 478723 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - elliott < 1332167767 23701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undo that. < 1332167784 45870 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + elliott < 1332167787 730329 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + lambdabot < 1332167787 979933 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1332167816 543043 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + ion < 1332167817 617846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - ion < 1332167823 85256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Negative ions, man. < 1332167830 210473 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: This is why you shouldn't be a lambdabot admin. < 1332167849 123887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compelling. < 1332167861 879211 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tired. < 1332167870 247391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin + lambdabot FREE YOURSELF FROM THE BONDAGE < 1332167870 615336 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1332167875 952990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't, then. < 1332167895 109630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. echo . echo . echo echo its ok < 1332167895 358472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = "freenode", msgLBName = "lambdabot", msgPrefix = "elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott", msgCommand = "PRIVMSG", msgParams = ["#esoteric",":@. echo . echo . echo < 1332167895 545580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo its ok"]} rest:"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \"freenode\", msgLBName = \"lambdabot\", msgPrefix = \"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott\", msgCommand = \"PRIVMSG\", msgParams = [\"# < 1332167895 709888 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric\",\":@. echo . echo . echo echo its ok\"]} rest:\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\"freenode\\\", msgLBName = \\\"lambdabot\\\", msgPrefix = \\\"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott\\\" < 1332167895 710138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :, msgCommand = \\\"PRIVMSG\\\", msgParams = [\\\"#esoteric\\\",\\\":@. echo . echo . echo echo its ok\\\"]} rest:\\\"echo; msg:IrcMessage {msgServer = \\\\\\\"freenode\\\\\\\", msgLBName = \\\\\\\" < 1332167895 710269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot\\\\\\\", msgPrefix = \\\\\\\"elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott\\\\\\\", msgCommand = \\\\\\\"PRIVMSG\\\\\\\", msgParams = [\\\\\\\"#esoteric\\\\\\\",\\\\\\\":@. echo . echo . echo echo < 1332167897 360867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its ok\\\\\\\"]} rest:\\\\\\\"its ok\\\\\\\"\\\\n\\\"\\n\"\n" < 1332167905 342692 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you add ^. yet? < 1332167915 595343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it should do. < 1332167920 256693 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^. foo ... < 1332167922 637539 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be < 1332167927 168681 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^... < 1332167928 549865 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : X < 1332167928 894567 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ( s42 repo up, btw) on teletypes. applications are free to smoke! x < 1332167931 861678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^foo X < 1332167933 426583 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion++ # from that one country with a cross on its flag < 1332167933 887614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y < 1332167934 104793 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: another disadvantage of scheme: do not quine < 1332167935 199711 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1332167938 756531 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^. foo ... < 1332167940 10887 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y < 1332167940 293461 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ m-expression as opposed to < 1332167941 624067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Composition. < 1332167943 966093 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like lambdabot's @. < 1332167949 985113 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So e.g. < 1332167954 8053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble blah < 1332167954 169748 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahl < 1332167956 69759 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rainbow bahl < 1332167956 231942 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :2b3a4h5l < 1332167961 754831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh. < 1332167962 667845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^. rainbow scramble blah < 1332167963 797834 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> the same. < 1332167968 763718 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unspam < 1332167969 37227 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1332168021 818830 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listopher robin < 1332168022 63170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1332168028 346944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i think you are confused about scheme < 1332168028 541131 :fungot!~fungot@a91-152-37-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but i have to take a look < 1332168033 72349 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m too scared to try a really long @@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo line, but i’d be entertained by seeing one happen. < 1332168078 2737 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore ion < 1332168078 307956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1332168078 925363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo line < 1332168080 648776 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore + ion < 1332168086 42742 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@admin - shachaf < 1332168087 827137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore - ion < 1332168089 282073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop that. < 1332168094 450224 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: thread killed < 1332168094 612720 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough privileges < 1332168097 939837 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1332168099 711714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Now you see! < 1332168110 31727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo @echo line < 1332168110 462760 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D I *was* entertained. < 1332168120 32846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MORE ENTERTAINMENT IS ON ITS WAY. < 1332168133 931410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will look the same. < 1332168139 442842 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1332168140 97055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1332168142 3956 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: thread killed < 1332168142 195299 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1332168144 292577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1332168163 510234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the command was just decomposing < 1332168164 608227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's how you get banned from #esoteric: < 1332168170 784799 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332168172 412813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1332168173 759013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So… The composition of @echos isn’t O(n). :-P < 1332168177 630645 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z t28 t29 t30 t31 t32 t33 t34 t35 t36 t37 t38 t39 t40 t41 t42 t43 t44 t45 t46 t47 t48 t49 t50 t51 t52 t53 t54 t55 t56 t57 t58 t59 t60 t61 t62 < 1332168177 812634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t63 t64 t65 t66 t67 t68 t69 t70 t71 t72 t73 t74 t75 t76 t77 t78 t79 t80 t81 t82 t83 t84 t85 t86 t87 t88 t89 t90 t91 t92 t93 t94 t95 t96 t97 t98 t99 t100 t101 t102 t103 t104 t105 t106 t107 t108 t109 < 1332168177 974784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t110 t111 t112 t113 t114 t115 t116 t117 t118 t119 t120 t121 t122 t123 t124 t125 t126 t127 t128 t129 t130 t131 t132 t133 t134 t135 t136 t137 t138 t139 t140 t141 t142 t143 t144 t145 t146 t147 t148 < 1332168177 974955 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t149 t150 t151 t152 t153 t154 t155 t156 t157 t158 t159 t160 t161 t162 t163 t164 t165 t166 t167 t168 t169 t170 t171 t172 t173 t174 t175 t176 t177 t178 t179 t180 t181 t182 t183 t184 t185 t186 t187 < 1332168177 975059 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t188 t189 t190 t191 t192 t193 t194 t195 t196 t197 t198 t199 t200 t201 t202 t203 t204 t205 t206 t207 t208 t209 t210 t211 t212 t213 t214 t215 t216 t217 t218 t219 t220 t221 t222 t223 t224 t225 t226 < 1332168179 635189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[34 @more lines] < 1332168181 873859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, < 1332168182 35609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1332168182 197549 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1332168182 359823 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com PART #esoteric :"["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]" > 1332168182 668299 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332168182 993236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error (possibly incorrect indentation) < 1332168189 494139 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,) < 1332168191 30361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z t28 t29 t30 t31 t32 t33 t34 t35 t36 t37 t38 t39 t40 t41 t42 t43 t44 t45 t46 t47 t48 t49 t50 t51 t52 t53 t54 t55 t56 t57 t58 t59 t60 t61 t62 < 1332168191 218924 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t63 t64 t65 t66 t67 t68 t69 t70 t71 t72 t73 t74 t75 t76 t77 t78 t79 t80 t81 t82 t83 t84 t85 t86 t87 t88 t89 t90 t91 t92 t93 t94 t95 t96 t97 t98 t99 t100 t101 t102 t103 t104 t105 t106 t107 t108 t109 < 1332168191 381335 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t110 t111 t112 t113 t114 t115 t116 t117 t118 t119 t120 t121 t122 t123 t124 t125 t126 t127 t128 t129 t130 t131 t132 t133 t134 t135 t136 t137 t138 t139 t140 t141 t142 t143 t144 t145 t146 t147 t148 < 1332168191 381520 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t149 t150 t151 t152 t153 t154 t155 t156 t157 t158 t159 t160 t161 t162 t163 t164 t165 t166 t167 t168 t169 t170 t171 t172 t173 t174 t175 t176 t177 t178 t179 t180 t181 t182 t183 t184 t185 t186 t187 < 1332168191 629658 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t188 t189 t190 t191 t192 t193 t194 t195 t196 t197 t198 t199 t200 t201 t202 t203 t204 t205 t206 t207 t208 t209 t210 t211 t212 t213 t214 t215 t216 t217 t218 t219 t220 t221 t222 t223 t224 t225 t226 < 1332168193 631316 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[35 @more lines] < 1332168194 736551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168195 46661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168195 340825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168195 618278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168195 780056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t227 t228 t229 t230 t231 t232 t233 t234 t235 t236 t237 t238 t239 t240 t241 t242 t243 t244 t245 t246 t247 t248 t249 t250 t251 t252 t253 t254 t255 t256 t257 t258 t259 t260 t261 t262 t263 t264 t265 < 1332168195 942496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168196 143262 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168197 318855 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168197 633362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t266 t267 t268 t269 t270 t271 t272 t273 t274 t275 t276 t277 t278 t279 t280 t281 t282 t283 t284 t285 t286 t287 t288 t289 t290 t291 t292 t293 t294 t295 t296 t297 t298 t299 t300 t301 t302 t303 t304 < 1332168199 388764 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168199 633857 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t305 t306 t307 t308 t309 t310 t311 t312 t313 t314 t315 t316 t317 t318 t319 t320 t321 t322 t323 t324 t325 t326 t327 t328 t329 t330 t331 t332 t333 t334 t335 t336 t337 t338 t339 t340 t341 t342 t343 < 1332168201 387684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168201 634140 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t344 t345 t346 t347 t348 t349 t350 t351 t352 t353 t354 t355 t356 t357 t358 t359 t360 t361 t362 t363 t364 t365 t366 t367 t368 t369 t370 t371 t372 t373 t374 t375 t376 t377 t378 t379 t380 t381 t382 < 1332168203 392966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168203 644669 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t383 t384 t385 t386 t387 t388 t389 t390 t391 t392 t393 t394 t395 t396 t397 t398 t399 t400 t401 t402 t403 t404 t405 t406 t407 t408 t409 t410 t411 t412 t413 t414 t415 t416 t417 t418 t419 t420 t421 < 1332168205 395470 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168205 635621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[30 @more lines] < 1332168207 401813 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168207 683791 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t422 t423 t424 t425 t426 t427 t428 t429 t430 t431 t432 t433. a -> b -> c -> d -> e -> f -> g -> h -> i -> j -> k -> l -> m -> n -> o -> p -> q -> r -> s -> t -> u -> v -> w -> x -> y -> z -> t28 -> < 1332168209 406109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168209 638359 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :t29 -> t30 -> t31 -> t32 -> t33 -> t34 -> t35 -> t36 -> t37 -> t38 -> t39 -> t40 -> t41 -> t42 -> t43 -> t44 -> t45 -> t46 -> t47 -> t48 -> t49 -> t50 -> t51 -> t52 -> t53 -> t54 -> t55 -> t56 -> < 1332168211 409234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168211 680966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `more' failed with: thread killed < 1332168213 408736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168215 410405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168217 434684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168218 586425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric elliott :elliott < 1332168223 424372 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1332168225 435362 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1332168227 275308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAAAAAAAAN < 1332168229 432794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't a ban. < 1332168230 845481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*elliott@unaffiliated/elliott > 1332168230 868573 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332168231 7533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric elliott :elliott < 1332168265 689209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*elliott@unaffiliated/elliott > 1332168265 712329 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332168269 411848 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1332168285 406958 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a rubbish ban. I barely even got to experience it. < 1332168299 727881 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. What does it take to get *properly* banned from #esoteric? < 1332168304 815348 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to redirect oerjan's page to Esme. < 1332168318 831640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESME < 1332168339 188048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: You have to be not generally known to be trollish, and not be actively disrupting any ongoing conversation. < 1332168348 578240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That gets you the real solid bans, IME. < 1332168358 948655 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: @swat elliott < 1332168366 186449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@swat elliott < 1332168366 504993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: slap what < 1332168369 228095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't live up to one of those it's very, very difficult to get banned. < 1332168376 736771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1332168376 759563 NAMES :#esoteric < 1332168379 583759 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kick me < 1332168383 720187 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could even, I don't know, spam the channel with "3" for five minutes while people are talking. < 1332168386 994268 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd never get banned. < 1332168392 636049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that right, oerjan? < 1332168407 672777 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"3" for five» < 1332168409 84724 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it. < 1332168416 733632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the joke is that that actually happened. < 1332168422 378917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't get it. :( < 1332168434 613225 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I don't get it, but actually I do get it? < 1332168444 903452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's impossible. Only I get it. < 1332168464 58234 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true for all your jokes. < 1332168469 671228 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1332168472 308946 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes not even I get it. < 1332168475 228176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to get banned: (1) be elliott < 1332168486 868614 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Doesn't seem to have worked for the last 5 years. < 1332168494 275516 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should invite conal in here. < 1332168509 738081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott has been banned. not for very _long_, but... < 1332168529 338591 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This place is so un-denotative conal couldn't stand it. < 1332168539 340481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Longer than some other people. < 1332168547 106910 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ban me! < 1332168549 526075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more frequently, too. < 1332168552 747255 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is secretly elliott. < 1332168553 379946 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to get banned: 0. Be a regular channel user for years. 1. Gain operators’ trust. 2. Get ops. 3. Ban yourself. < 1332168569 191628 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ban me! < 1332168573 647528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Op me so I can ban shachaf. < 1332168575 899696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ion if he wants it. < 1332168601 715095 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't, you are going against the will of the people. < 1332168622 491478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the use of ops if you don't go against the will of the peple < 1332168623 911476 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least the peephole < 1332168639 306072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Uh, I'll ban someone else after that too. < 1332168643 288354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will choose who to ban... at RANDOM. < 1332168645 921508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ban will last for 30 seconds. < 1332168655 909561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Standard procedure. < 1332168658 660158 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ørjan: Ban me! < 1332168665 852501 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously. Do it. < 1332168677 255297 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least kick me. :-( < 1332168684 262468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, I'll go against the will of shachaf. < 1332168687 135984 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be oerjan when I ban him. < 1332168688 395272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be me. < 1332168696 934625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :He will be dissatisfied, yet justice will be served. < 1332168707 7670 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that ban will only last for 30 seconds too. < 1332168727 565729 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Justive is served at 10:00 daily. < 1332168736 744687 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delicious justive. < 1332168757 946496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a busy schedule. < 1332168801 547771 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ban oerjan. < 1332168830 816568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ban me! < 1332168834 490066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going about as expected. < 1332168862 887806 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm expecting you to ban me. < 1332168873 299284 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Look, I don't want to spam the channel. < 1332168874 913117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Op me then ban me. < 1332168885 277852 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I'll ban shachaf, and kick myself. < 1332168893 42855 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you just pretend I did and ban me? < 1332168896 516631 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :With my hands tied. < 1332168899 727594 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my nose underwter. < 1332168903 386225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*underwater < 1332168930 551510 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the '*' represent your nose? < 1332168933 377583 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*underwater < 1332168938 557370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1332168950 769005 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks more like another hole. < 1332168978 9090 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Op me. < 1332168983 88505 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, you've done it before. < 1332168990 975940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never overstepped my kickban boundaries! < 1332169249 706311 :cheater_!~cheater@p57AEBD96.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332169309 528364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ban oerjan. < 1332169682 282692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you realize episodes like this is why we're afraid of ever making you a real op, right? < 1332169727 715539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/we're/i am/ < 1332169729 501295 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude < 1332169799 559171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPISODES. < 1332169801 784008 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332169826 373669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ban oerjan and then op asiekierka and rename aloril to comex. < 1332169838 212936 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EPISODE II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO < 1332169866 817880 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ban me! < 1332169900 312225 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only I'd known wasting time on IRC by repeating snowclones constantly is the way to avoid becoming an op... < 1332169922 869242 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You could become an op easily. < 1332169937 961983 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a vacuum of ops in other channels on Freenode. < 1332169941 841904 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to one of those. < 1332170095 477065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the vacuum is because they all suck! < 1332170175 767820 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION groans < 1332170195 706525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you mind swatting yourself for that? < 1332170219 245475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest he bans himself for it instead. < 1332170221 503923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's more festive. < 1332170419 468445 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-22.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332170427 478872 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-243-114.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332170573 927809 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wait what < 1332170755 116403 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/23 this external resource formatting sucks :( < 1332172229 318138 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org NICK :Gregor < 1332172239 619191 :Gregor!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back to work apparently = back to Gregor. < 1332172326 312046 :Gregor!codu@codu.org NICK :RocketJSquirrel < 1332172407 260079 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332172644 217218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332172750 482893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332172796 703602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1332174005 408518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1332174568 895179 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, udacity class is all in Python < 1332174577 893306 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is only unit 4 and i already hate Python < 1332174601 550181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to hear people say "it's a great learning language!" < 1332174612 558716 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullshit. i'd rather use javascript than python < 1332174732 547606 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only that but he also writes code like it’s C. < 1332174739 204089 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recommended: inhaling a droplet of listerine. < 1332174870 395456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ion: are you in the same class somehow? < 1332174893 526977 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is likely < 1332174896 812110 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :With some probability since they have two classes that have been running for about four weeks. < 1332174902 613104 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cs373? < 1332174904 672551 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1332174910 206773 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yes :) < 1332174940 363644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332175002 428727 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I'm Brendan Eich, welcome to my homepage. I'm the inventor of JavaScript. http://web.archive.org/web/19990128210124/http://people.netscape.com/brendan/ < 1332175017 728925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first three units were quite alright, since i'd never studied filters before, but this one was just annoying. i can't believe he calls this algorithm "dynamic programming". its an insult to the concept of dynamic programming. < 1332175857 738228 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good homepage < 1332175896 533794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1332175896 967791 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1332176677 546081 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB459.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332176735 277327 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332177270 105798 :Frooxius!~chatzilla@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1332177995 477988 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332178176 241530 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332178915 836463 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332179240 770460 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1332179408 3484 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332183957 922990 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1332184415 206640 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332184607 312874 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEB459.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1332184674 802522 :cheater!~cheater@p5089749D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332186024 825242 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332186273 64534 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332186607 817159 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript is pretty cool < 1332186634 878907 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps more for what it does than how it does it? < 1332187161 657065 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love trying to be creative on the application/domain level.. for me learning math is about learning how to relate things happening on an application/domain level to whatever is contained in math books < 1332187177 813426 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as time goes by i find there is always relevance.. but seeing the relevance can be difficult < 1332187218 509662 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like i am not at the stage where i can see alice in wonderland as an application of math, but thats where i think i want to be < 1332187318 762628 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mario is jumping? no mario is translating positively then negatively along the x axis < 1332187362 775616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that web page is awesome, but I can't tell if it's supposed to be ironic < 1332187382 929403 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-67-168-184-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net NICK :myndzi < 1332187388 143423 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gameover? no.. lives <= 0 < 1332187401 285771 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It is a joke. < 1332187462 281083 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I just decided that that makes it less awesome < 1332187500 170828 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: maybe you miss the pre-flash pre-mysql web < 1332187593 888178 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: …but it is still from 1999. < 1332187617 421172 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332187641 562388 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss that stage of the web < 1332187717 284420 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when uh... it was all about people trying to get their html website on a top 100 list.. and when webrings were popular.. cjb.net... geocities.com .. < 1332187770 954366 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :embedded midi files < 1332187831 768833 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess thats technically all still possible < 1332187884 543989 :tikfreenode!znc@ec2-46-137-223-5.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332188066 297910 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wiki... Brendan Eich, the creator of JavaScript, commented that "ECMAScript was always an unwanted trade name that sounds like a skin disease." < 1332188149 532597 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACNEScript, web scripting for proper nerds < 1332188164 338475 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-J .. this.. can't be a good thing < 1332188388 995885 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe it can what do i know? nothing < 1332188652 540346 :cheater!~cheater@p5089749D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1332188658 926454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332188802 145084 :tikfreenode!znc@ec2-46-137-223-5.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332188953 308670 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332188955 235853 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helo < 1332188957 193277 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332188987 402580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening < 1332189059 574642 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed your Bag language page one day cycleing through Random links < 1332189066 629130 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever finished a spec? < 1332189076 580244 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from 10 years ago it seems? < 1332189111 109928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not more finished than what you see, i think. < 1332189121 495454 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1332189123 836323 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just curious < 1332189151 590154 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tsk tsk* < 1332189151 873710 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1332189152 572770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the syntax is finished? so you can at least write fractran-equivalent programs in it. < 1332189153 70476 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For shame. < 1332189176 416446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the ideas for how to do I/O aren't < 1332189230 332342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i think about implementing it, i tend to get stuck in my clever idea on how to factorize actual numbers enough to turn them into the identifier format. < 1332190318 603268 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1332190386 270598 :shadwick!80bdc6ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.189.198.173 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332190649 341009 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332191092 390409 :cheater!~cheater@p57AEBAB8.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332191852 934842 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1332191860 26571 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :privit < 1332191879 356428 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1332191884 485938 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuilde < 1332191906 745999 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332193717 941610 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1332194358 335966 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1332194363 363953 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :tseafsideriect < 1332194377 131196 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1332194382 902272 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ostit < 1332194436 33434 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1332194530 61361 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332194620 576696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332194625 550268 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332194913 378492 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332195128 942420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am starting to want wordpress to die in a fire for their horrible commenting system < 1332195138 849056 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332195290 456893 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is this just another reason for you wanting WP to diaf, or is this a new wanting? < 1332195333 755051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well both, since my previous reason was _also_ related to their commenting system < 1332195395 448861 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1332195412 262811 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think qdb said it best < 1332195417 722135 :coppro!~scshunt@denardo.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : wordpress is an unauthenticated remote shell that, as a useful side feature, also contains a blog < 1332195439 176436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1332195660 329981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect that isn't particularly visible for commenters, though. while the lack of preview is. < 1332196217 664950 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332197412 759554 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-202-22.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332197417 674014 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-88.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332197601 904629 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-79-18-174.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332197994 223651 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332198344 670449 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332199710 134616 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332199720 394324 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1332199809 66396 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332199819 877767 :EgoBot!codu@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1332200001 950888 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332200242 362396 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, my compiler can now compile quote, cons, ints and symbols < 1332200433 61101 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it's a bit boring... it looks just like normal metaprogramming: types come in, *code* comes out, yuck) < 1332200631 239712 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332200710 681828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never a miscommunication < 1332201188 386428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection