< 1332374664 33958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL isn't exactly known for having much convenience code around the low-level API in the "core". < 1332374686 340649 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a case of SDL not merely lacking convenience code. < 1332374696 655898 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a case of SDL being *harder than the APIs it's wrapping*. < 1332374714 356066 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332374727 760113 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-96.clsp.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antiabstraction FTW. < 1332375193 461914 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332375289 872324 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hunch he lost connection, but isn't sure < 1332375351 71397 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to logging out voluntarily, that is. < 1332375475 166939 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4037d.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Quit: hagb4rd < 1332375562 558540 :MatressDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332375780 581899 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332375879 17223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think the reasonable way to implement a synchronous sound API in SDL would be to build it on top of the asynchronous one, instead of trying to map those calls to something backend-specific that might not even exist, in which case it's pretty close to convenience code from the implementer's point of view. < 1332376245 207453 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-219-24.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332376245 369215 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-239-96.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332376366 940615 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 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401576 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuk < 1332380848 139571 :calamari!~calamari@173-116-253-51.pools.spcsdns.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1332381359 259699 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.blue-room.org.uk/wiki/Widowmaker < 1332381360 548018 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1332381364 500351 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25FRpkbDxU < 1332381592 571201 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracias. < 1332382114 237896 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :De nada < 1332383555 701570 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1332383555 957155 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1332383620 597967 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yjqkjyqkyyjqkyjjping < 1332383620 847847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1332383981 355884 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db416c0.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332387083 773343 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db41e56.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332387183 6863 :Madoka-Kaname!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1332388149 890656 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332388225 838111 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART :#esoteric < 1332391712 705108 :oerjan!50cadfda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.202.223.218 QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1332392245 308240 :MatressDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MSleep < 1332393187 577042 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332393452 292398 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332393467 216522 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1332393472 151863 :monqy_!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :monqy < 1332393916 667906 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy, tswett muffin < 1332393930 404072 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hi < 1332393940 478421 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a better flavor this time < 1332393949 908954 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's cake flavored < 1332396397 498238 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332397976 673004 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332398025 895143 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332398147 584439 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332398808 317011 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-151-47.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332398833 653098 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-183.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332400561 159776 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-249-66.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332400575 342689 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-219-24.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332400649 795235 :MSleep!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332400667 4874 :MDude!~fyrc@c-174-55-44-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332402349 253258 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332402647 582240 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs181243217.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332407177 411351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1332408568 529125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doop < 1332408568 791556 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. < 1332408740 714373 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FD0E774.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332408749 410880 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote it sounds awful though i know.. the thought of a whole life without any hope of lawn chairs in hawaii sipping alcohol and watching bikini clad women dance with maracas < 1332408757 767956 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :826) it sounds awful though i know.. the thought of a whole life without any hope of lawn chairs in hawaii sipping alcohol and watching bikini clad women dance with maracas < 1332408785 19679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie said 12h 31m 19s ago: FWIW, the esocolors in L*a*b* are (138.4, -29.2, 30.6), (149.6, -17.9, 59.0), (143.8, -2.7, 38.9) and (135.5, 4.6, -12.0). http://zem.fi/~fis/esocolor.png shows the < 1332408785 180959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : slice of L*a*b* for L* = 141.8 (mean of those) that's representable in sRGB. The red dots are the colors' a* and b* coords. < 1332408805 977503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That seems a reasonable enough range. How viable do you think your circle-in-L*a*b* idea would be? < 1332408819 999750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate having to choose more than one variable. < 1332408902 769204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:49:45: I'd say most economic theories work if you presume human nature magically conform to thier expectations. <-- as i and probably others have said before, every form of government works if all people are perfect, including nazism. < 1332408916 129835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Uhh, unless you're Jewish, or gay, or... < 1332408938 802216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If by "perfect" you mean "Nazis", then yes. < 1332408940 244062 :cheater!~cheater@p4FD0EF35.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1332408945 914234 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's quite a nonstandard definition. < 1332409102 227264 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Wait, how do <--- arrows work with multiple people being quoted? < 1332409145 997488 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Anyway, tell me about coinductive functions. < 1332409310 628851 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9819578/whats-the-meaning-of-io-actions-within-pure-functions < 1332409320 50970 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I felt like hurting you, so I linked that. < 1332409339 137302 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db41e56.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332409489 904418 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The title looks promising. < 1332409509 938812 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whats-the-meaning-of-io-actions" -- conal "conal" conal? < 1332409549 44003 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This person is distinctly not conal. :-( < 1332409764 178401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I give a monad the ability to execute actions from another one then, by giving it the possibility to pattern match against the values it contains? – Riccardo 2 mins ago < 1332409770 413960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think I can just ignore this question? < 1332409789 903960 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you already failed. < 1332409800 266946 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, I wasn't even seeing that question until you put it in here. < 1332409803 254043 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I see it too. < 1332409819 817568 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Remind me what the reason that you felt like hurting me in the first place was again? < 1332409867 871487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're terrible. < 1332409889 91953 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is as many as four tens. :-( < 1332410116 530497 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: "But a monad has no ability to execute the actions of another monad unless you give it that ability." < 1332410122 280994 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of vague and misleading. < 1332410142 541170 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a monad" doesn't execute anything. < 1332410624 213100 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db414e9.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332411180 504825 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Can you suggest a less misleading reply to that nonsense? < 1332411276 583477 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would suggest not saying that part at all. < 1332411612 279901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Perhaps. < 1332411626 121240 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't really expect to be able to enlighten this person if the rest of my answer didn't, anyway. < 1332411691 879303 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1332411693 935457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I give a monad the ability to execute actions from another one then, by giving it the possibility to pattern match against the values it contains? – Riccardo 34 mins ago < 1332411694 96715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1332411694 96914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1332411694 97021 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :By writing methods that convert one monad into another, or do some execution. Control.Monad.ST.stToIO converts an ST computation into an IO computation, for example. – Louis Wasserman 13 mins ago < 1332411700 339775 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when other people handle questions I don't want to. < 1332411706 554943 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will avoid nitpciking about "method". < 1332411744 176123 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-231-151.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332411898 202464 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-183.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332411918 768923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/What_is_SlideIT/ Hmm, is this a ripoff of Swype or vice-versa? < 1332412006 179361 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-231-151.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332412026 57687 :shachaf!~shachaf@li227-219.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rips both off, creates SwypeIT < 1332412108 377883 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-145-63.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332412467 358501 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332412663 175750 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-135-21.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332412757 917616 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db414e9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wertzuioknbvfderghjkoiuztrewertzuiuztrewertzuioiuztrghjkjhgfds < 1332412769 185777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm honestly not sure how much sense a circle makes, but here are some colors picked from one: http://zem.fi/~fis/esocolorlab.html < 1332412772 234849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first table has the original colors, and then colors at angles 0, 90, 180 and 270 degrees from the about-largest circle centered at the white point that can fit in sRGB for L* = min (second line) or mean (third line) of the originals. And then there's the same thing except with a rotating 'phase'. < 1332412777 687712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically the "perceptual distance" between any horizontal neighbours in the "phase-wheel" tables should be identical, but YMMV -- it's only a rough approximation, after all. < 1332412782 532015 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db414e9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doesn't work perfectly yet < 1332412793 740424 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-145-63.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332412842 452654 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db414e9.pool.mediaWays.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it _is_ perfect for long words..indeed < 1332413067 845737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't quite understand the results, but they don't look promising. :( < 1332413108 746588 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-135-21.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332413119 215289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess science is just not equipped to handle the task "give me four different pastel-looking colours that are perceptually evenly-spaced". < 1332413325 382663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if you actually want colours you like, perhaps. I mean, those look more or less "pastel" to me, and as for even-spacedness, well... maybe not so much, but it's at least wrong in a justified way. < 1332413378 715947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, you can't have more than three unique evenly spaced points in a two-dimensional space, which is what an equal-lightness slice of L*a*b* is. < 1332413420 907791 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Clearly we need a... four-dimensional colour tesseract. < 1332413449 435243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could stick an arbitrarily oriented regular tetrahedron in the 3D L*a*b* space, but that's probably going to give nonsense out too. < 1332413465 257471 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Anyway, yes, they're pastel. But they're not "primary" in the way that the existing colours are; that is, the green, yellow and blue are a lot more *strongly* different than the ones the L*a*b* circle is spitting out. < 1332413642 153103 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-132.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332413644 418566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That much is true. Sadly, I could only have a so large radius for a "grayness-centered" circle before going outside sRGB. The existing points are more like on an ellipse in labspace. < 1332413648 828805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, the one black box (at 18 degrees for L* = 88.6) would be (1.000322, 0.831912, 0.837298) or "#100d4d6" in sRGB. < 1332413910 912972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it look horrible if you picked a circle outside sRGB and then "sampled it down" to sRGB? < 1332413942 575983 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've seen a circle thing with "all" of L*a*b* that mapped down the stuff outside sRGB. < 1332414123 772021 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-224-132.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332414358 554752 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-116.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332414491 101015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, I added the colors you get if you draw the ellipse that somewhat approximates the four original points (with major axis oriented along the esoyellow -> esoblue direction), and then pick points at the places where the major and minor axes cross the ellipse. But they're not especially pleasant colours either, especially the yellow after being brought down to the same level of "lightness as ... < 1332414497 453153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... defined by lab". < 1332414508 960839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course if you *want* a vaguely urine-looking header, go ahead.) < 1332414630 910847 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1332414656 585651 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the peach is kind of the odd one out as far as the colours go. < 1332414666 433264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt you'd get anything especially better by omitting it. < 1332414736 936633 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-230-65.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332414812 558115 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-128-116.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1332414951 506843 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-131-131.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332415063 659621 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-132-103.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332415076 712161 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-230-65.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332415231 744391 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-131-131.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332415405 275641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier is in [[Category:Pages with DOI errors]]. < 1332415448 634557 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-132-103.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332415597 743314 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-158-231.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332415719 983356 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332416107 427760 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FD0E774.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1332416134 402108 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DCD5.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332416235 691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/r8861/i_love_this_tv_show_sooooo_fucking_awesome/ I... don't understand. < 1332416522 808199 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FD0FD6D.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332416548 278573 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4db40a33.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332416626 250528 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db414e9.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332417590 633899 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-158-231.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332417621 276191 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332417780 675264 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-158-231.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332417834 496443 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-231.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332417975 975651 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-158-231.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332418088 109209 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bom dia, sarg. Haskell! Lindo dia para um piquenique! < 1332418145 597477 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-233-156.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332418177 541717 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning, sarg. Haskell! Nice day for a picnic! < 1332418209 904120 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-149-231.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332418543 44197 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-236-223.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332418703 852202 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-233-156.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332418838 188762 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4db40a33.pool.mediaWays.net NICK :hagb4rd < 1332418859 895686 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-236-223.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332419160 580596 :cheater__!~cheater@p4FD0F059.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332419202 691773 :cheater_!~cheater@p4FD0FD6D.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1332419408 794200 :cheater_!~cheater@p508954AB.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332419583 854423 :cheater__!~cheater@p4FD0F059.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332420067 710589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332420141 883847 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1332420165 987708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1332421493 448331 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-81.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332422577 562553 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-123-81.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332423800 385854 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4371a.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332423850 367355 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-4db40a33.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332423959 21420 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-61.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332423964 56742 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-249-66.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332425394 105565 :const!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332425458 581398 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332425461 828089 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332425888 922240 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1332426216 571100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332426817 276476 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sabotage/musl + NetBSD pkgsrc = joy < 1332428585 617068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: lol < 1332428596 715370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Did the others not work out? < 1332428660 498883 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did Magnatune start sucking? < 1332428911 654379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This guy on proggit is incredibly annoying. < 1332429673 629473 :Slereah_!x@ANantes-259-1-204-143.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1332429729 74387 :Slereah!x@ANantes-259-1-244-159.w83-195.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332429849 214975 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if Learn Seven Languages in Seven Weeks is any good < 1332429873 686412 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't learn a language in a week. < 1332429874 663040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no. < 1332429897 482923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, everyone who has mentioned that book in #haskell has been clueless. < 1332429927 142881 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1332429952 955073 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1332429957 875583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say that a lot. What does it mean? < 1332430001 997296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What was that link to the backgroundy versions of the header colours? < 1332430266 885847 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not called "Learn" Seven Languages in Seven Weeks < 1332430824 318883 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I only tried Gentoo Prefix and pkgsrc. < 1332430830 102262 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gentoo Prefix was a non-starter. < 1332430902 773187 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332430910 363639 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332431060 532196 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332431116 492094 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4db4371a.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332431190 903551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Howso? < 1332431257 707812 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Their bootstrapping script only works with bash, and bash doesn't work right now due to some strange musl issue. < 1332431361 419149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, what shell are you using? < 1332431411 55685 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1332431426 549565 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :real men use Minix 1 for m68k when they need to use *nix and ash is standard shell on it < 1332431641 748314 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :real men use shsh < 1332431712 817954 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I assume busybox sh. < 1332431720 284995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332431748 458476 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But pkgsrc has been good to me. < 1332431750 890121 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite happy with it. < 1332431772 300766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, teaching over for the academic year < 1332431777 603864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not counting potential marks entry or exam marking < 1332431945 976140 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: no. real men use Thompson shell < 1332431991 706138 :Patashu!Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , Gmail: Patashu0@gmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1332432008 643845 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1332432012 50298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1332432017 687618 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Real men use Multics. < 1332432035 507816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332432042 524940 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1332432049 502286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1332432089 513427 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Phantom_Hoover < 1332432099 967571 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No they toggle in a microkernel from the front panel < 1332432152 305281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :real men made their computer out of transistors, and have their boot code hardcoded from memory < 1332432160 376589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microkernels are for wusses. < 1332432276 760287 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real men bend silicon into shape with their bare hands and dope it with their spit. < 1332432306 778228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is spit n-type or p-type? < 1332432315 387990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly made of water and protein, right? < 1332432321 529242 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually they use butterflies to toggle bits in core memory of their machines built out of relays that they mined the needed minerals for < 1332432343 966983 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, real men spit arsenic and boron. < 1332432389 397028 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real men don't use computers. < 1332432392 499917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, stupid meme killed. < 1332432401 944239 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use an abacus for memory and execute the instructions by hand < 1332432436 357423 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hey, I was being original. < 1332432505 520959 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes, yours was the only good one. < 1332432545 982236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that such discussions collapse into self-parody too quickly < 1332432553 535365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are indistinguishable from it even if they aren't meant to be < 1332432577 426580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main problem is that the meme is dumb in the first place. < 1332432620 885964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1332432665 534985 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-d9329bb8.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332433180 930524 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332433287 165101 :SimonRC!~sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1332434167 917189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hey, should I add and ? < 1332434184 888000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: depends on if you think anyone would use them < 1332434195 600827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why not zzo38's custom mathy thing? < 1332434196 938923 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: isn't depreciated? < 1332434503 688960 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: What about it? < 1332434530 81291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Because zzo38's custom mathy thing (a) needs heavy modifications to be usable on anybody else's computer by his own admission, (b) obviously doesn't support standard LaTeX syntax, and (c) has no MediaWiki extension, he wants me to write the extension for him to use it. < 1332434541 674068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I mean, no, not that I'm aware of, what's its successor? < 1332434569 21104 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just thought that it wouldn't pass vadility essor < 1332434593 707909 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea what essor is. < 1332434594 698685 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/essor/check without errors/ < 1332434646 414227 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, are you referring to some HTML tag? (I think it might have had such a tag in the past.) < 1332434661 555308 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm referring to the MediaWiki tag, which takes LaTeX and spits out a PNG on the page. < 1332434670 717371 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1332434694 621191 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :html tag was in html 3.0-3.2 < 1332434714 67350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think would be useful, since there are quite a few articles with citations done in a rather ad-hoc style (mostly the theoretical CS stuff). < 1332434739 19611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1332434769 80479 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the math extension is transitioning to MathJax, I guess I'll wait until that's done before installing it < 1332436268 541956 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/suggested-edits/225891 < 1332436409 740507 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332436415 250923 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332436604 655435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://zem.fi/~fis/esocolor.html has the HLS lightened versions. First table is just setting a fixed L and keeping hue/saturation, while the second table sets L to l+x*(1-l), where l is the old l and x is that value on the header row, in a sense "lightening" all the colors by as much. < 1332436653 97682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It has expanded since last time, I see. < 1332436675 523079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose lightening them with L*a*b* would go as disastrously as the other Lab experiment? < 1332436701 842362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try it, but I doubt it differs from HLS terribly much. < 1332436725 105369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.96 from the first table and 0.60/0.70 from the second table seem good. < 1332436792 550693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For completeness, I added a third table that has equal-darkening values too. < 1332436806 787194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that you probably need those. < 1332436819 473048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the GOTH EDITION the 0.1 values from that might work. < 1332436834 235106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, it could be useful for Halloween, I suppose. < 1332436890 196884 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: If I want to make the wiki DARK and SPOOKY. < 1332436925 277994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I THINK YOU'LL FIND that orig = 1.00, unsurprisingly. < 1332436931 183666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should remove the orig column and flip the table. :p < 1332436945 200439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then rename the 1.00 column to orig. Clearly perfection is a requirement. < 1332436970 357662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0 column of second table is not the most useful either. < 1332436973 295413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, you should completely automate the table-creation process. < 1332436990 705865 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, is it ok that I said hi? < 1332437031 983419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are these esocolor things? < 1332437095 114658 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Saying hi is forbidden. < 1332437098 918287 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We're painting fizzie's house. < 1332437109 187163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure I believe that < 1332437123 722035 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people believe the world is round, man. < 1332437127 826565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Housepainting, right? < 1332437140 870393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: does anyone /really/ believe the world is piecewise-linear? < 1332437217 15276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Like, God, man. < 1332437245 362738 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yep. < 1332437591 625352 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: "What about Lunar Eclipses?" < 1332437591 802057 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: A celestial body, known as the antimoon, passes between the sun and moon. This projects a shadow upon the moon. < 1332437656 259170 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: where is that quote < 1332437662 509027 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+from < 1332437669 951491 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ < 1332437694 503245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still haven't forgiven sgeo for saying hi < 1332437752 56870 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god. the flat earth society < 1332437774 634347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Just for completeness, L*a*b*-lightened/darkened versions: http://zem.fi/~fis/esocolor3.html < 1332438073 138211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The differences are kinda-sorta slight. E.g. the 0.5 columns are identical for 10 of the 12 eight-bit components, and the remaining two differ by 1. < 1332438116 300610 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, the darkening table is rather different. < 1332438128 412565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And rather better, I think.) < 1332438290 694674 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really need to replace that peach, though. < 1332438335 636517 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4d0b72dd.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332438340 605531 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-d9329bb8.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332438413 666139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The darkening table is different because it's done differently; it's "equally spaced points on the line between the original and the nonchromatic black", so it sorta desaturates while it's at it. I added a third table that just brings L* down to 0, but those tend to again fall outside the vaguely shaped sRGB region. < 1332438558 493411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: L*a*b* is scaring me a bit. I mean, I know *I* can't imagine a colour not inside sRGB. < 1332438563 629726 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is to say such colours even exist? < 1332438586 912911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332438604 699388 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any laser pointer light is outside sRGB, unless it happens to exactly coincide with one of the three sRGB primaries. < 1332438629 294832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think.) < 1332438643 73007 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :But *who* can *tell*? < 1332438648 173105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the real question. < 1332438675 551138 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you'll love this one: https://twitter.com/#!/jakedevine/status/182865434289258496/photo/1 < 1332438690 213430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Cie_Chart_with_sRGB_gamut_by_spigget.png -- see, sRGB can even depict areas outside of sRGB. < 1332438693 565727 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are the R, G and B in sRGB defined as precise wavelengths? < 1332438711 243630 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that's amazing < 1332438730 784389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: They just do those fake-color images. You'll notice there's a discontinuity at the border of the sRGB triangle. < 1332438751 397202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Shut up. < 1332438769 763350 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Next you'll tell me those nebulae don't *really* look that colourful. < 1332438800 744143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You forgot the s. < 1332438801 601942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, they're defined in the XYZ colorspace. I suppose they're not exactly monochromatic. < 1332438828 616516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defining colour spaces in terms of colour spaces. < 1332438830 506645 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it. < 1332438844 690740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why do we even need colour spaces, man? Can't we just use wavelengths?! < 1332438851 25232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they'd be at the borders of that chromaticity chart if they were. < 1332438853 644176 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Question more serious than I'd like.) < 1332438865 290483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because that prevents the display of purple. < 1332438865 457107 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, twitter had a fair bit of wtf itself there... the text in the tweet says "pic.twitter.com/ybRMIfeR", the status bar while hovering the link says "http://t.co/ybRMIfeR", the tooltip says "https://twitter.com/jakedevine/status/182865434289258496/photo/1" < 1332438874 645195 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finally, following the link takes you to the link I pasted above < 1332438895 550375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Well, as we all know, purple isn't real. < 1332438900 662069 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So it doesn't matter if you can't display it. < 1332438911 144315 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1332438912 726678 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, why can't we just use a combination of an arbitrary number of wavelengths?! < 1332438946 697810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as they start making displays that give out arbitrary spectral power distributions, I suppose we can. < 1332438961 767790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The displays can just ignore the colours they can't produce! < 1332438970 866435 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had a thing in St Andrews which pulsed laser light at arbitrary frequencies. < 1332438975 699452 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :L*a*b* still exists and there aren't any displays with that! (Are there?) < 1332439003 371196 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I forget, did I link you to that thing where you stare at an image and its border becomes more blue than blue itself. < 1332439006 183310 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing is awesome. < 1332439006 859178 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if you miniaturised the hell out of that and stuck a few of them behind each pixel, you could compound a few wavelengths (which is enough). < 1332439014 559286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it's green, not blue. < 1332439022 819175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, there's a blue one. < 1332439038 675907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's awesome. < 1332439043 325964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the blue colour it produces. < 1332439064 324270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Grep /Eclipse of Mars/, http://www.skytopia.com/project/illusion/illusion.html < 1332439092 797952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, if you just hook the display up to the optical nerve (or I guess clamp it on the retina and add enough pixels) you can specify which color receptors to tickle, which is by definition enough to make any seeable colour for that person. < 1332439130 521473 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the text accompanying it suggests that it's just not representable on a monitor. < 1332439131 148367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if you aim *really well* you could do it from a distance, too. < 1332439166 280143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Uhh, the colour it produces is not representable on a monitor. < 1332439179 740982 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an optical illusion; it doesn't have to have any pixels of the colour in question to make you see it. < 1332439184 185328 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done it, it works perfectly. < 1332439206 182084 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, CIE 1931 XYZ actually includes colours that don't exist. That's reassuring. < 1332439209 553697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, aliens. < 1332439239 39269 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean it suggests that it's not displayable by a monitor but can be realised through other non-illusory means. < 1332439251 610120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, well right. < 1332439259 6247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It certainly looked more brilliant than any cyan *I've* seen. < 1332439311 491909 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CIE_1931_XYZ_Color_Matching_Functions.svg < 1332439326 650269 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, red receptors are actually slightly purple? < 1332439343 434190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The color matching function approximations are IIRC really horrible. < 1332439360 747698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are "better" curves in the bits that talk about the eye. < 1332439372 256502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that they're any more clearly "red" or "green" or "blue" either.) < 1332439401 18586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cone-response.svg has some sort of normalized curves. < 1332439410 509542 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are there colourspaces that contain the entire visual range? < 1332439411 831751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't know how good those are either.) < 1332439456 747246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Well, XYZ for one, as long as it's the visual range for the CIE standard observer. < 1332439469 583090 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org NICK :RocketJSquirrel_ < 1332439475 599761 :RocketJSquirrel_!codu@codu.org NICK :RocketJSquirrel < 1332439534 134964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Man, fuck that standard observer. < 1332439547 550998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's why everyone specifies things in terms of XYZ? < 1332439590 418006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a reasonable thing as long as your target market is humans. < 1332439613 361646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Did you do that eclipse of mars thing yet it's awesome. < 1332439614 726922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But obviously you can't represent an arbitrary spectrum with just three components, so it's not enough for more sophisticated customers. < 1332439622 767393 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did. < 1332439626 41446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK but what about aliens? < 1332439644 21325 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Or dogs. Is infrared in XYZ? < 1332439662 159775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you'll just have to start modeling actual spectral power distributions. Some 3D modelling systems do. < 1332439688 238940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That LuxRender thing, for example. < 1332439772 655234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, okay, they're still just sampled and quantized spectra.) < 1332439823 916107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Or dogs. Is infrared in XYZ? < 1332439868 720875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the XYZ color matching functions go to 0 pretty much at the edges of "visible light", so I'm going with no. < 1332439914 921626 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.skytopia.com/project/illusion/ipage-mb.html Does this one work for you? It doesn't work for me. < 1332439917 910276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LuxRender has a fancy thing where if you specify a color in R, G, B, it has a whole thing -- http://www.cs.utah.edu/~bes/papers/color/ -- that it uses to make a "physically plausible" spectrum for it. < 1332439993 160053 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, works, I just need to change the point of focus a lot. < 1332440006 51379 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Oh, wait, I think this might be a better version of the Eclipse of Mars: http://www.skytopia.com/project/illusion/ipage-et.html < 1332440008 592367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the one I used. < 1332440226 967857 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1332440304 237406 :cheater_!~cheater@p508954AB.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332440359 907827 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-133-28.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332440920 339209 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332440920 972257 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332441055 942525 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332441077 95908 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Cheers from irrsi on sabotage/musl. < 1332441199 903219 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332441259 507437 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BullwinkleJMoose: are you replacing all your programs with ones compiled with musl? < 1332441352 719934 :itidus22!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 NICK :itidus21 < 1332441441 867215 :itidus20!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1332441447 602151 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: No, I have a musl VM running with no glibc at all. < 1332441631 832205 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :>musl < 1332441639 263338 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i <3 you man... non-sexually of course < 1332441929 194779 :nortti!~chatzilla@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 11.0/20120312200651] < 1332442149 93108 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Perlin' up my irssi < 1332442244 384384 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332442253 512798 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that night BullwinkleJMoose wept for his one true love's declaration of platonicism. < 1332442269 988280 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1332442280 348183 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I can't pull a rabbit out of this god damned hat. < 1332442586 45081 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has just occured to me that if each pixel was a mirror of some sort then it could be made to reflect some color sample < 1332442661 220559 :cheater!~cheater@p508954AB.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332442690 345941 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as an apple in a box with light shined on it magically reflected along a series of mirrors until finally reflecting off the pixels < 1332442737 702766 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Magically" seems like a problematic approach to optics. < 1332442781 936186 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's newspeak for someone elses problem < 1332442826 78202 :monqy!~swell@pool-71-102-226-192.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332442981 310682 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cie 1931 color space page was too tough for me to read so i thought of that instead < 1332443013 108991 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332443013 270112 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1332443162 571733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332443560 325370 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1332443569 888123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1332443573 805316 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1332443595 755266 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ais523 < 1332443598 856261 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is ais523. This topic may retroactively become more informative if or when Feather is invented. < 1332443610 781812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, HackEgo has ruined our convention < 1332443615 876545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which shows how long ago we last tried to use it… < 1332443640 688656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, "not found" is not really a sensible error message for trying to exec the null string < 1332443745 233596 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just need a bin/ file. < 1332443760 818976 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1332443853 757633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin test; touch bin < 1332443856 19358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, there is only ENAMETOOLONG, not an ENAMETOOSHORT. < 1332443856 842940 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332443861 187802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1332443864 159991 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1332443865 876895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1332443868 679745 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1332443871 741595 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin; mv test bin < 1332443875 427071 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1332444041 692713 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have thought about colors in scRGB space before.. it's hard to really express the idea to most people < 1332444065 616265 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-132.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332444113 893139 :pikhq!~pikhq@174-22-157-61.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1332444339 876104 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not as if they're of any great use... an apple would not be any more of an apple in an imaginary color < 1332444867 482505 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes a post without putting my foot in my mouth. < 1332444876 711618 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^his mouth < 1332444883 739253 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^his foot < 1332444907 985454 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ingratiated expression < 1332444941 199074 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong word.. < 1332444987 505069 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1332445034 262408 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1332445034 439618 :asiekierka_!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332445065 122352 :calamari!~calamari@ip72-211-147-156.tc.ph.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1332445078 183496 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1332445081 127264 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ canary \ hackenv \ karma \ lib \ paste \ quotes \ share \ wisdom < 1332445084 483312 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1332445152 130376 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Did you know: Not submitting a candidate featured language is defined as treason in 23 of the 29 states of Canada, including Finland, China, and Europe? < 1332445154 197037 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1332445158 188323 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome audy < 1332445161 369136 :HackEgo!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :audy: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page < 1332445165 302289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I've seen that name before. Never mind(?) < 1332445169 616834 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1332445187 917078 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1332445194 715302 :audy!~audy@heyaudy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I idle in here sometimes < 1332445330 161520 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332445524 289838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332445648 760619 :hagb4rd2!~hagb4rd@koln-4d0b72dd.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332445892 749629 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-149-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332446068 733558 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-2-133-28.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332446103 664500 :ais523_!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1332446199 869138 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-149-198.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332446392 383857 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-149-198.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1332447595 306997 :derdon!~derdon@pD9E1DCD5.dip.t-dialin.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332447767 438481 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (round 48.5, round 49.5) < 1332447768 279048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : (48,50) < 1332447812 933458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> printf "%.0f" 48.4 < 1332447813 775872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ambiguous type variable `a' in the constraints: < 1332447813 963296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Text.Printf.PrintfType ... < 1332447815 990062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> printf "%.0f" 48.4 :: String < 1332447816 832827 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : "48" < 1332447823 822834 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION raises an eyebrow. I ... get the purpose of that rule, I think, but why is it only as popular as it is, and was the choice to round to even arbitrary or is there a reason for it? < 1332447852 791860 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1332447859 237788 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's to make the roundings average out, or something < 1332447874 308108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the default rounding mode in IEEE-754, that's pretty popular. < 1332447874 474775 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, as opposed to rounding to odd. < 1332447958 443537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332448001 251371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smelled a gregor nick change, and was right < 1332448005 345090 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was looking at a cake website.. and i had an amusing thought.. an esolang cake < 1332448009 91962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your daily dose of irony: what type of dash is used in the prose of http://www.emdash.net/en/mission.html? < 1332448021 162570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I was fact-finding for my answer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9829769/strange-half-to-even-rounding-in-different-languages. < 1332448031 421744 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could spell out happy birthday in brainfuck < 1332448073 766107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't I make a Befunge birthday card once? < 1332448077 743569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it so that I got one? < 1332448083 83816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was the latter. < 1332448094 13513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:35:16: oerjan: Uhh, unless you're Jewish, or gay, or... < 1332448094 233373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:35:38: oerjan: If by "perfect" you mean "Nazis", then yes. < 1332448105 129624 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cakes on this website are just that inspirational.. < 1332448138 301693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: your joke detector needs adjustment, it's a little slow. < 1332448158 889582 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what timzone is used on those quotes? < 1332448168 914151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC i assume < 1332448212 899422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It was clearly a ha-ha-only-serious thing. < 1332448238 624090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes. < 1332448453 537117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at elliott and fizzie's attempt to brighten colors, and wonders if there's something wrong with simply applying \ (x,y,z) -> (x + a*(255-x), y + a*(255-y), z + a*(255-z)) to an rgb triple < 1332448467 649314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not SEMANTIC. < 1332448494 583555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's a convex combination of your original color and white, how is that not semantic? < 1332448501 821232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"semantic"? just prepend "bright" or "light", works with every color < 1332448610 430852 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088180231.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1332448614 786384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Distances in the (gamma-compressed) RGB space are complete nonsense. (Anyway, that *is* what doing \(h,l,s) -> (h,l + a*(1-l),s) pretty much does, which is the second table.) < 1332448664 305867 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-5.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332448664 715657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well i know little about gamma < 1332448730 576630 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :* oerjan smelled a gregor nick change, and was right // no < 1332448735 608072 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second nick from a different system. < 1332448739 764457 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-8-149-198.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1332448754 843966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh the gregors are breeding! < 1332448818 451607 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the multigregor < 1332448878 300728 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thanks! ehird. You are good man." < 1332448889 417226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. Indeed I am. < 1332448899 352167 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :english language should in my opinion adopt term "pilkunnusija" (translates to something along the lines of commafucker) < 1332448902 827166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : elliott: Wait, how do <--- arrows work with multiple people being quoted? <-- badly, unless all quoters use them < 1332448923 49157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Did you read that from cracked.com's list of words the English language is missing? < 1332448939 162250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case <...> and <-- match like parentheses, i think < 1332448953 740858 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It would be amusing for a Finn to decide on that opinion only after reading an English-language piece. < 1332448967 876694 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did they list it there? < 1332448992 126432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: They did, and I saw the list being shared in some Social Media just the other day. < 1332448996 45024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is it immoral to remind an ESL speaker to mark my answer as accepted? < 1332449005 19108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's quite the synchronicity to spontaneously suggest the same thing. < 1332449022 304753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially since I didn't see any comma-fucking going on at the moment.) < 1332449023 764278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i don't see what ESL speaker has to do with it < 1332449031 411578 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Neither did I, before the GUILT. < 1332449032 804980 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: then they have made a new list < 1332449060 210140 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If I become Catholic, can I do whatever and have my guilt erased after-the-fact? < 1332449067 982377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose theoretically the person might think "accept" means "eviscerate", or something. < 1332449068 143697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be very helpful for my lifestyle. < 1332449073 364284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: http://www.cracked.com/article_19695_9-foreign-words-english-language-desperately-needs_p2.html #1 < 1332449079 148837 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's just they're so kind. :( < 1332449093 392651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, there's also an older list of 10 such words from 2009. < 1332449103 912725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one is from 28 Feb 2012. < 1332449134 37615 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that older one is the list that I have read < 1332449156 389367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think so, but note that if you die between the sinning and erasing for a cardinal sin, you are _really_ screwed. and that doesn't even get into latae sententiae excommunication... < 1332449168 245861 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-146-5.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332449236 562294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't anticipate dying before this answer is accepted. < 1332449245 390717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1332449265 149497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Can you just uncovert right before you intend to sin, and then reconvert just before the guilt-erasing? < 1332449298 631569 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It just came to mind when reading english language forums and seeing hiw english language doesn't have a good term for commafuckers < 1332449313 574307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: "Grammar Nazi" is in widespread use. < 1332449331 198100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think this stuff might require some element of genuine _regret_, you know. < 1332449332 164116 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-5.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332449336 772316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commafuckers is less distasteful, though. Although orthography ain'tn't grammar. < 1332449345 46922 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, really? < 1332449347 36315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck that, then. < 1332449356 461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: always a catch. < 1332449360 588656 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, guilt, sure; regret, no. < 1332449366 995760 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd do it again, and feel bad about it. < 1332449418 531177 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81f5ef.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332449503 824526 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, they did it, now I can erase the evidence. < 1332449505 864369 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... or is that worse. < 1332449513 92888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1332449524 176472 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE SO MANY CONFLICTING FEELINGS < 1332449676 321133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9830006/type-signature-between-funtion-and-class/9830084#9830084 will people look back on me in the future and think "wow that ehird guy is such an asshole" < 1332449679 570492 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guilt :'( < 1332449696 790666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the life of an overflown stack... is the most difficult life in the wold < 1332449698 700846 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :worldek < 1332449702 103809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe < 1332449703 167154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean, "future" < 1332449726 212915 :nortti!~androirc@a88-113-14-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Quit: nortti < 1332449754 566708 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when we're all dead < 1332449759 79031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will the kangaroos think of me < 1332449808 450671 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-246-160.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332449854 426864 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the feeling oerjan doesn't know much about kangaroo feelings < 1332449861 116361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't expect the kangaroos to be most likely survivors, given that eutherians already wiped most marsupials from the _other_ continents, and humans have introduced eutherians to australia. < 1332449876 288997 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but < 1332449878 633789 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kangaroos are pretty tough < 1332449889 866673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and australia is devoid of almost all civilisation < 1332449891 234087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be. < 1332449891 754981 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1332449897 169307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're totally wrong < 1332449967 44193 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL humans have a conservation status < 1332449973 12226 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder how long it took to decide that one < 1332449979 885960 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-8-146-5.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332449995 735817 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Homo_Sapien_range.png TIalsoLd there's no humans at the south pole < 1332450069 630506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, "least concern, unless they destroy themselves" < 1332450249 903971 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should double the scale to account for species with worryingly high populations. < 1332450264 419506 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extinction to Grey goo. < 1332450341 836308 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that filename is wrong. < 1332450349 542526 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The species name is "Homo sapiens", not "Homo Sapien" < 1332450414 239688 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :RocketJSquirrel: Homo sapiens is, like, plural, man! < 1332450420 39194 :RocketJSquirrel!codu@codu.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope! < 1332450459 50756 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homos sapienses < 1332450494 425726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1332450625 772365 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-234-192.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332450634 336714 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-132.clsp.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1332450918 132880 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-226.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332450977 444268 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332451072 476991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1332451081 298800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates his connection < 1332451090 176326 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1332451097 712844 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-246-160.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332451103 97953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost the worst part is i _still_ don't know whether the problem is at my end or nvg's < 1332451135 597396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the webchat dropping yesterday for the first time makes me slightly more suspicious that it's at my end. < 1332451319 397370 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1332451319 657067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@li85-105.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1332451390 931309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes he lived in a universe where things didn't tend to develop irritating flaws < 1332451493 997947 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hark, I am dead? < 1332451505 756014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, you're not dead < 1332451522 987202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not more dead than me, anyway < 1332452163 616824 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332452313 41059 :BullwinkleJMoose!~root@c-98-223-59-98.hsd1.in.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1332452568 291598 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-78-146-164-179.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1332452639 873988 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332452649 59270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries reducing putty's keepalive to 30 secs < 1332452680 353589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if that will help, do nothing, or make things worse < 1332452724 417622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will stay alive up to 30 secs. < 1332452736 725187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats fizzie -----### < 1332452736 886580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, that's not quite what it means.) < 1332452841 949619 :hagb4rd!~hagb4rd@koln-5d81f5ef.pool.mediaWays.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1332452893 841892 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1332452944 673183 :Jafet!~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1332453446 712571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, that gzip file that got mangled by phpBB? the person sent me the original, it was a standard gzip file after all < 1332453484 726346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a lot of NULs after the first three bytes, which presumably phpBB deleted, which is why we couldn't parse it from that < 1332453538 105586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny, you'd think at least the modification time would have survived. < 1332453554 397617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that zeros too? < 1332453571 201603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zeros came very early < 1332453574 539077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they'd have shifted all the bytes from then on out of place < 1332453585 256878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1332453609 135950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's the "fixed" three bytes, then a flag byte that might well be a 0, and immediately after that the mtime. < 1332453644 815381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we looked for the mtime field under the assumption that a '\0' FLG byte would've been there, but got dropped. < 1332453678 961208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's not too rare to not have a timestamp there. < 1332453711 752749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "delete nuls" is not a very invertible operation anyway, so it's a bit of a moot point. < 1332453932 107848 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1332453951 261219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, mtime was indeed 0, in that case < 1332453963 714520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of binary data, I've been cleaning my ~, and there's a 81098752-byte file called "ut.end" in there, and I haven't managed to distinguish it from random data yet. 'file' says just "data", 'strings' or hexdump don't seem to reveal any obvious patterns in the first few hundred kb, and a "forensics" proggie called "foremost" I had (that I ran on a broken-disk image) managed to extract ... < 1332453969 827739 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... nothing from it. < 1332453977 355509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm debating whether I should just delete it, or keep it secret, keep it safe. < 1332453987 855481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, 80 megs is quite a bit. < 1332454003 584115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the "it uses a lot of space" sense, more in the "there could be some stuff there" sense. < 1332454089 856645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a single human-readable string I've seen in the 'strings' output, and it's the word "JUNK", the last thing 'strings' outputs. < 1332454094 341496 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be some sort of a sign. < 1332454140 25411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's an obviously regular-looking feature at the end, but I'm not sure what it is. It looks slightly like a sorted array of 8-byte integers. < 1332454149 102935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could be offsets. < 1332454195 231037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or *something. They're a bit too large to be offsets to this file, but maybe only part of them is offsets. < 1332454281 842300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit that actually looks like an incrementing counter goes up to 722559503. < 1332454303 645402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the file extension is ".end", it could be just the latter piece of a CD image or something. < 1332454332 360773 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or some other 700-meg file.) < 1332454473 682257 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-119-14.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332454504 610429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly when that file is deciphered, the world ends. or is that when it is deleted. < 1332454659 505353 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-132-226.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332454800 177103 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISBN 978-0-48109-8752-4 Hello Kitty Everywhere!: Haiku: Postcards in a Hinged Box < 1332454809 661083 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that.. that didn't go well < 1332454841 579919 :itidus21!~itidus21@120.148.51.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISBN 978-0-4 8109-8752-4 Hello Kitty Everywhere!: Haiku: Postcards in a Hinged Box < 1332454879 1249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kinda-sorta wondering that it had a weird number of digits for an ISBN. < 1332455205 841459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a funny normalization, xn = sgn(x)*log(1+abs(x)). It's like some sort of symmetric logarithm thing. < 1332455247 286372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks nice and smooth, though. < 1332455430 558195 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1332455974 890466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, advert I just saw: "3 easy steps: 1. Click to download. 2. Run the .exe file to install. 3. Enjoy the fun content!" together with a large Download button, five stars, the company name, some version compatibility information, and a large tick for some reason < 1332455982 799867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no indication on what the product actually was… < 1332455994 759070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the odds it /isn't/ malware? < 1332456376 25998 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-40.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332456531 391366 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-119-14.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332457292 549700 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I ever mention I was an idiot as a kid? < 1332457304 894489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you an idiot now? < 1332457312 533565 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'd like to think not. < 1332457499 148965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, you damn fool, that's at least 2 more lambdabot messages for me tomorrow morning. < 1332457513 272799 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, idgi < 1332457578 251166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott won't be able to resist that one, and since his sleep cycle is so insane he'll logread that. < 1332457685 91365 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely he'll see that you saw it though? < 1332457713 473189 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I don't get what he's going to do. Crack jokes privately to you at my expense? < 1332457811 958318 :Patashu!~Patashu@c122-106-155-219.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1332457972 787974 :tzxn3!~tzxn3@cpc5-mapp3-0-0-cust464.12-4.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332458034 125082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE SAID TOO MUCH < 1332458041 61231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION explodes < 1332458044 724969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1332458506 188877 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-115-197.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332458637 224138 :MoALTz!~no@host-92-8-146-40.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332458926 431735 :MoALTz__!~no@host-92-2-124-93.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1332459004 456465 :Sgeo!~sgeo@ool-ad034d00.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, monqy has been turned into a MUFFIN. < 1332459015 552378 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By whom? < 1332459019 906133 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By... < 1332459027 740037 :tswett!~tswett@171.64.42.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most important character in Homestuck? < 1332459053 295913 :MoALTz_!~no@host-92-2-115-197.as43234.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1332460088 44747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection