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00:00:00 <elliott> 2011-03-13.txt:17:42:55:
00:00:02 <elliott> <elliott>
00:00:04 <elliott> coppro:
00:00:06 <elliott> olsner:
00:00:08 <elliott> and so on
00:00:46 <elliott> pikhq: heh, that first paste is some of it
00:00:59 <shachaf> I didn't say *I* wanted to look at the output. I probably wouldn't use sed for this in the first place.
00:01:29 <elliott> shachaf: Feel free to write a non-sed equivalent!
00:01:41 <pikhq> elliott: That looks POSIXly correct is the thing.
00:01:52 <elliott> Well, OS X is not always POSIXly corect :P
00:01:58 <pikhq> It's POSIX certified.
00:02:03 <elliott> Yes. So is Windows.
00:02:07 * elliott just uses perl
00:02:23 <pikhq> And with the POSIX subsystem that is almost never installed, it actually acts like it. :P
00:02:51 <elliott> pikhq: Here's one of the latest versions of it: http://sprunge.us/OYVO
00:03:03 <elliott> I fixed the bug at one point, but I'd have to think a bit to remember what the problem is.
00:03:07 <elliott> (You can see it in the comment towards the end.)
00:03:39 <elliott> Explanation of the comment header things: "RESERVES" means it wants a specific value for them that you can never change ever and must be set up at the start.
00:03:45 <elliott> (Or it uses them for persistent state.)
00:03:57 <elliott> The macro swap exchanges the stack stack and call stack pointers.
00:04:13 <elliott> rword is the interactive read-a-word-from-the-terminal procedure.
00:04:40 <elliott> fword takes a packed word name and tries to find the corresponding subroutine address.
00:06:34 <elliott> pikhq: Anyway, feel free to play around with it; it should work as-is.
00:06:49 <elliott> But there's that bug. So if you want to use the \ word, you'll have to ask me to remember what the bug was and how to solve it.
00:07:27 <elliott> I believe it involved the fact that @ is encoded as 0, and I believe my solution was to make sure I only give up _after_ passing a 0, not when I reach one.
00:07:35 <elliott> (Requiring @ to be kept last, of course.)
00:09:46 <elliott> pikhq: Also, do you want to be my SOA email?
00:15:40 <pikhq> ?
00:16:27 <shachaf> pikhq: Remember the time that elliott refused to be in the channel until you were kicked?
00:16:30 * shachaf reminisces.
00:18:18 <elliott> pikhq: I'm setting up DNS for esolangs.org.
00:18:22 <elliott> It needs an SOA email. :(
00:19:18 <pikhq> What, and you can't use your own?
00:19:34 <elliott> It's, like, public!
00:19:42 <elliott> Also my email address is rubbish. :(
00:20:55 <shachaf> pikhq: Do I typically say things in #esoteric to annoy people?
00:22:26 <Gregor> elliott: tenminutemail ;)
00:22:41 <elliott> Gregor: It has to last longer than ten minutes!!!
00:22:55 <Gregor> elliott: twentyminutemail?
00:23:30 <shachaf> for evermail
00:27:36 <elliott> http://sprunge.us/SYUJ I remember this.
00:31:43 <elliott> http://stackoverflow.com/posts/10289914/revisions Well, that lasted 9 minutes.
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00:48:01 <elliott> Gregor: What's the best domain name?
00:51:53 <elliott> pikhq: So does that thing actually assemble and run correctly?
00:55:13 <pikhq> Yes.
00:55:20 <elliott> Yay.
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01:15:35 <Gregor> elliott: libc.so :(
01:16:42 <Gregor> Creation Date: 2011-04-28T17:45:54.0Z
01:16:42 <Gregor> Last Updated On: 2012-04-24T01:06:36.0Z
01:16:44 <Gregor> He renewed it :'(
01:17:06 <elliott> :D
01:17:22 <itidus20> that abizern guy has quite a high reputation
01:17:27 <elliott> Gregor: Not necessarily...
01:17:31 <elliott> 28 > 24
01:17:51 <elliott> itidus20: Who?
01:17:58 <elliott> Oh, that guy.
01:18:03 <elliott> I have almost as much rep as him.
01:18:12 <itidus20> indeed....
01:18:40 <itidus20> oh he's in london also
01:18:54 <itidus20> also as in.. also of interest
01:20:55 <itidus20> yeah... "thats" what i take out of it..
01:21:04 <itidus20> phew..
01:21:31 <elliott> What?
01:22:52 <itidus20> nothing
01:39:08 <itidus20> `quote
01:39:09 <itidus20> `quote
01:39:10 <itidus20> `quote
01:39:23 <HackEgo> 821) <shachaf> elliott: Apparently Rowan Williams is Primate of All England. <shachaf> CHECKMATE CREATIONISTS
01:39:35 <HackEgo> 252) <ais523> gah, why does lose keep winning?
01:39:35 <HackEgo> 436) <Gregor> oklopol: Why do you have so much experience with hoop-and-stick? :P <oklopol> Gregor: my fetish: learning pointless skills
01:40:19 <elliott> monqy: hi
01:40:22 <elliott> that's just a
01:40:22 <elliott> normal hi
01:40:31 <elliott> dont be scared
01:41:20 <elliott> are you sacred
01:41:21 <elliott> don't be
01:41:23 <elliott> *scared
01:42:09 <itidus20> a little.. i hide behind hackego a bit
01:42:15 <elliott> not oyu
01:42:17 <elliott> monqy
01:42:21 <elliott> *youe
01:42:21 <itidus20> i know :D
01:43:18 <elliott> shachaf: Should I register esolangs.org@gmail.com or something to receive esolangs.org mail. :(
01:43:36 <shachaf> elliott: How about: dns@esolangs.org?????
01:43:40 * shachaf solves problem.
01:43:49 <itidus20> `? monqy
01:43:52 <HackEgo> The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details.
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01:43:55 <elliott> shachaf: That would (a) require me to set up esolangs.org mail (b) defeat the point since the SOA person is meant to be the technical contact about the domain.
01:44:07 <elliott> Technical contact could include asking me why the domain's email is broken.
01:44:26 <shachaf> What if defeating the point *is* the point?
01:44:29 <shachaf> dude
01:44:31 <shachaf> whoa
01:44:40 <monqy> hello elliott
01:44:43 <elliott> You really can't turn off the irritating, can you.
01:44:47 <monqy> that was a normal hello
01:44:52 <elliott> monqy: is anybody talking about things in ##crawl this is important
01:45:09 <monqy> ##crawl is usually at least somewhat active
01:45:13 <monqy> now is no exception
01:45:22 <elliott> ok are they talking about something that you have anything at all to say about
01:45:29 <monqy> i dont know
01:45:36 <monqy> i usually don't pay attention that's how active it is
01:45:39 <elliott> :(
01:45:42 <elliott> can you check
01:45:42 <shachaf> elliott: To be fair, you started it with an irritating request which you made over and over again.
01:45:43 <elliott> it's
01:45:44 <elliott> it's important
01:45:46 <shachaf> ASCII silly question, get a silly ANSI
01:45:54 <elliott> shachaf: Hey, I only asked that one like twice.
01:46:07 <elliott> I only Unicode Little Endian silly question.
01:46:14 <shachaf> But how many times did you ask isomorphic questions?
01:46:25 <Sgeo> What question did elliott ask?
01:46:26 <shachaf> elliott: Don't be nonsense, please. There's "Unicode" and "Unicode Big Endian".
01:46:36 <elliott> monqy: :'(
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01:46:49 <elliott> i hereby abandon the plan
01:46:58 <elliott> ##crawl, what a great channel, never going to join ##crawl
01:47:06 <monqy> just join it it's not scary
01:47:21 <elliott> 02:46 <monqy> 18:46:00 -!- itidus20 [~itidus21@120.148.51.163] has joined ##crawl
01:47:22 <elliott> it will be
01:47:39 <monqy> it won't be suspicious
01:47:50 <itidus20> i left
01:47:56 <itidus20> i just wanted to scout it out
01:48:10 <itidus20> "<crate> since i will have to apport all my arrows to not attract even more spiders as i go to fetch them"
01:50:34 <elliott> I bet I'll join ##crawl and then shachaf will immediately say something stupid to me.
01:51:01 <shachaf> elliott: You're the one who's been highlighting my name in this channel for the past N minutes.
01:51:17 <elliott> 02:46 <shachaf> elliott: Don't be nonsense, please. There's "Unicode" and "Unicode Big Endian".
01:51:24 <elliott> Looks like a highlight to me!!!!!
01:51:32 <shachaf> In response, yes.
01:52:15 <itidus20> shachaf well i highlighted you once with a quote
01:52:24 <shachaf> itidus20: I know. :-(
01:52:30 <itidus20> actually i highlighted elliott also with the same quote
01:52:38 <shachaf> itidus20: Are you Primate of all #Esoteric?
01:53:23 <itidus20> well i believe in the possibility of evolutionary creationism :P
01:55:19 <itidus20> the creator may have simply written some self-modifying lazy evaluating cellular automaton
01:55:50 <itidus20> im not clear that self modifying is approriate therethough
01:55:56 <itidus20> ^there though
01:58:48 <itidus20> the jungian myth would suggest man is required to initiate the lazy evaluation... i dunno if i should be reading this book
02:07:57 <itidus20> yeah who knows what i will come up with next in my inane rambling.. ok i will roll the quotes
02:08:04 <itidus20> `quote
02:08:04 <itidus20> `quote
02:08:05 <itidus20> `quote
02:08:12 <HackEgo> 747) <zzo38> Even the Spanish Inquisition is in this game. <ais523> zzo38: was it unexpected? <zzo38> Kind of...
02:08:15 <HackEgo> 168) <fizzie> (I've just been playing with myself.)
02:08:23 <HackEgo> 592) <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: Sort of a monadic human centipede.
02:09:43 <itidus20> 3 quotes. 5 highlights. 0 double highlights.
02:10:12 <itidus20> oh phantom not here so 4
02:10:23 <itidus20> zzo not here so 3
02:10:39 <itidus20> yeahhhhh... im just gonna stop talking
02:21:18 <elliott> @time monqy
02:21:19 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Mon Apr 23 19:21:18 2012
02:21:23 <elliott> happy 19:21:18
02:21:32 <monqy> yes
03:01:00 <qfr> [03:55:20] <itidus20> the creator may have simply written some self-modifying lazy evaluating cellular automaton
03:01:05 <qfr> Yes, his name is Stephen Wolfram
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03:32:55 * tswett ponders The Cynic Project.
03:33:56 <tswett> I'm guessing that TCP's Alex Smith is not the same as our Alex Smith, given that TCP's Alex Smith went to the University of Minnesota and is now working in NYC.
03:40:20 <Sgeo> Dear Chrome: Please stop asking me to kill the goproblems page
03:40:24 <Sgeo> It doesn't need killing
03:42:36 <Sgeo> Ok, maybe it does
03:43:49 <kmc> lol
03:45:11 <shachaf> You people like golfing, right? Any ideas about this snippet (from another channel)? for(p=q.width=1117,(c=q.getContext('2d')).drawImage(this,0,e=0);p;)e+=String.fromCharCode(c.getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0]);top.eval(e)
03:52:49 <elliott> is that top. necessary?
04:03:23 <shachaf> Sort of.
04:03:33 <shachaf> The code that it decompresses uses variables like "y".
04:03:46 <shachaf> And this is running in the context of an img.
04:05:49 <elliott> i mean
04:05:52 <elliott> why not just use eval(e)
04:06:12 <shachaf> Because it runs in the wrong context.
04:06:20 <shachaf> Amusingly, (1,eval)(e) works correctly.
04:07:50 <elliott> idgi
04:08:07 <shachaf> Which part?
04:08:21 <elliott> how (1,eval)(e) works
04:08:46 <shachaf> http://perfectionkills.com/global-eval-what-are-the-options/
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04:35:03 <shachaf> elliott: OK, the "top" is gone.
05:01:57 <shachaf> elliott: For what it's worth, down to with(q.getContext('2d'))for(p=q.width=1115,drawImage(this,0,e=0);p;)e+=String.fromCharCode(getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0]);eval(e)
05:02:16 <elliott> !frink 1115 -> hex
05:02:20 <elliott> `frink 1115 -> hex
05:02:34 <HackEgo> 45b
05:02:41 <shachaf> No such luck.
05:02:55 <shachaf> You need a pretty big number before that saves a whole three byts.
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05:31:39 <pikhq> I think you can make that a bit shorter with while(drawImage(this,0,e=0),p=q.width=1115)
05:31:43 <pikhq> Oh, wait.
05:31:45 <pikhq> No
05:31:47 <pikhq> Nonono.
05:32:24 <pikhq> I am apparently incapable of making good suggestions tonight, so I shall refrain.
05:32:59 <elliott> shachaf: What's it at now?
05:34:01 <pikhq> Oh, BTW, I totally got my bootloader working.
05:34:39 <pikhq> My issue was simple: ds is uninitialised when you enter the bootloader, and lgdt indexes off the code segment when in real mode.
05:34:43 <pikhq> Erm, data.
05:35:00 <shachaf> elliott: I think it's about the same.
05:35:01 <pikhq> Well, I suppose it does in protected mode too, but who uses non-flat memory in protected mode?
05:35:33 <elliott> shachaf: with(q.getContext('2d'))for(p=r.width=1115,drawImage(q,0,e=0);r;)e+=String.fromCharCode(getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0]);eval(e)
05:35:53 <elliott> Oh, wait, q =/= q.getContext('2d').
05:35:58 <shachaf> What's r?
05:36:05 <elliott> Erm.
05:36:13 <pikhq> ≠ thou meanst
05:36:16 <elliott> Never mind.
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06:27:15 <coppro> aww
06:28:14 <elliott> waht
06:30:15 <coppro> nthing
06:30:25 <elliott> waht
06:34:06 <elliott> waht
06:34:23 <shachaf> elliott: No progress.
06:34:35 <shachaf> Come on, golf!
06:34:46 <elliott> with(q.getContext('2d'))for(p=q.width=1115,drawImage(this,0,e=0);p;)eval(e+=String.fromCharCode(getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0])
06:34:50 <elliott> shachaf: does that work
06:34:56 <elliott> it just might
06:35:25 <shachaf> elliott: That evals it at every iteration of the loop?
06:35:30 <elliott> yep
06:35:40 <shachaf> Um, not really.
06:36:24 <elliott> define not really
06:37:09 <shachaf> Not really, d.: No.
06:39:13 <elliott> why doesnt it worke
06:39:32 <elliott> with(q.getContext('2d'))for(p=q.width=1115,drawImage(this,0,e=0);p;)(p?void:eval)(e+=String.fromCharCode(getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0])
06:39:33 <elliott> what about that
06:39:37 <elliott> uhh
06:39:57 <elliott> with(q.getContext('2d'))for(p=q.width=1115,drawImage(this,0,e=0);p+1;)(p?void:eval)(e+=String.fromCharCode(getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0])
06:39:58 <elliott> or something
06:40:00 <elliott> is that shorter
06:40:32 <shachaf> It's not.
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06:42:26 <elliott> what about
06:42:27 <elliott> for(x=q.getContext('2d'),p=q.width=1115,drawImage(x,0,e=0);p;)e+=String.fromCharCode(x.getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0]);eval(e)
06:42:29 <elliott> is that shorter
06:43:41 <shachaf> Yes, but it's broken too.
06:44:31 <elliott> how
06:44:35 <elliott> oh
06:44:47 <elliott> for(x=q.getContext('2d'),p=q.width=1115,x.drawImage(x,0,e=0);p;)e+=String.fromCharCode(x.getImageData(--p,0,1,1).data[0]);eval(e)
06:44:50 <elliott> is that shorter
06:46:49 <shachaf> x.drawImage(x,0,e=0)?
06:46:56 <shachaf> "with" doesn't set "this"
06:47:07 <elliott> it doesn't?
06:47:46 <shachaf> Nope.
06:48:28 <elliott> ok well
06:48:45 <elliott> uhhhe
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07:29:45 <Sgeo> ...The Vatican Secret Archives don't seem to be very secret
07:30:35 <elliott> The use of the word "secret" in the title "Vatican Secret Archives" does not denote the modern meaning of confidentiality. Instead, it indicates that the archives are the Pope's personal property, not belonging to those of any particular department of the Roman Curia or the Holy See. The word "secret" was generally used in this sense as also reflected in phrases such as "secret servants", "secret cupbearer", "secret carver", much like an es
07:30:35 <elliott> teemed position of honor and regard comparable to a VIP.[3]
07:32:01 <monqy> sometimes, the bests secrets
07:32:03 <monqy> aren't secret at all
07:32:47 <coppro> monqy: did you know samus is a girl.
07:33:04 <monqy> what!!
07:33:24 <coppro> Main screen turn on.
07:33:56 <monqy> hi im main screen
07:33:59 <monqy> welcome to me being on
07:34:13 <coppro> monqy: you're turned on by the sexy sexy hand
07:34:16 <coppro> stroking your buttons
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07:34:23 <coppro> aww yeah, that feels good
07:34:29 <coppro> ... okay, clearly I need sleep
07:34:53 <monqy> as main screen i highly advise this course of action
07:35:30 <elliott> im main screen
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08:07:57 <Sgeo> Using "em" in a context where "me" would fit while talking to someone not previously exposed to Spivak pronouns is not a good idea.
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08:28:10 <olsner> oh, Spivak didn't actually invent those pronouns
08:30:59 <shachaf> hi main screen
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09:10:27 <elliott> @time monqy
09:10:29 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue Apr 24 02:10:27 2012
09:10:46 <asiekierka> @time asiekierka
09:10:48 <lambdabot> Local time for asiekierka is Wed Apr 25 04:10:46
09:10:55 <asiekierka> obviously my clock is completely screwed up
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10:50:30 <elliott> @time monqy
10:50:31 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue Apr 24 03:50:30 2012
10:50:37 <elliott> monqy: you are bad at sleep
10:50:51 <monqy> yes
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11:29:21 <elliott> @time monqy
11:29:23 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue Apr 24 04:29:21 2012
11:29:27 <elliott> monqy: youre running out of sleep
11:29:27 <monqy> :(
11:29:29 <monqy> yes
11:29:31 <monqy> i am D:
11:29:35 <elliott> soon there will be no sleep left
11:29:36 <monqy> school will be fun
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12:07:14 <Phantom_Hoover> ellisonch?
12:07:27 <Phantom_Hoover> The Ells are growing more numerous by the day.
12:08:08 <elliott> hi Phantom_Hoover watch me play crawl
12:08:21 <Phantom_Hoover> um
12:08:23 <Phantom_Hoover> how does that
12:08:23 <Phantom_Hoover> work
12:08:30 <Phantom_Hoover> remember
12:08:39 <Phantom_Hoover> i'm still trapped in a window
12:08:42 <elliott> telnet crawl.develz.org 345
12:08:44 <elliott> windows has telnet
12:08:47 <elliott> then w -> elliott
12:08:58 <elliott> actually who knows if the xterm shit will work for you there but oh well give it a try
12:09:53 <elliott> let me know how it goes
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12:10:49 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: im pausing
12:10:50 <elliott> for you
12:11:46 <Phantom_Hoover> Telnet not recognised, apparently.
12:12:15 <monqy> not recognized?
12:12:18 <elliott> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771275(v=ws.10).aspx
12:12:23 <elliott> pkgmgr /iu:"TelnetClient"
12:12:25 <elliott> then try it again
12:12:36 <Phantom_Hoover> Windows has a package manager???
12:13:01 <elliott> shut up and install it
12:13:06 <elliott> its a
12:13:07 <elliott> system
12:13:08 <elliott> rtj
12:13:10 <elliott> pkow
12:13:11 <Phantom_Hoover> Didn't work.
12:13:12 <elliott> gmop
12:13:14 <elliott> wje
12:13:41 <elliott> thats
12:13:42 <elliott> dude
12:13:44 <elliott> never say didnt work
12:13:47 <elliott> it just makes me want to strangle you
12:13:49 <elliott> for being impossibly vague
12:13:53 <elliott> anyway
12:13:58 <elliott> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
12:13:59 <elliott> get putty
12:14:10 <Lumpio-> pkgmgr probably has a repository of like
12:14:12 <Lumpio-> 50 packages
12:14:14 <elliott> conncet with telnet to crawl.develz.org, port 345
12:14:17 <elliott> *connect
12:14:22 <Lumpio-> It's pretty bad even for Microsoft.
12:14:23 <Phantom_Hoover> Well when I say 'didn't work' I invariably mean either 'failed the same as before' or 'failed without output'.
12:14:25 <elliott> Lumpio-: but they're all microsoft packages
12:14:30 <elliott> so you know it's the best
12:14:32 <Phantom_Hoover> Oh, it worked this time??
12:14:45 <Phantom_Hoover> Connection to host lost.
12:14:46 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: ok but putty will still be a lot more pleasant
12:14:49 <elliott> so just
12:14:50 <elliott> try that
12:15:01 <Phantom_Hoover> I want to go back to Arch ;_;
12:15:47 <Phantom_Hoover> " I believe it is legal to use PuTTY, PSCP, PSFTP and Plink in England and Wales and in many other countries,"
12:15:56 <Phantom_Hoover> YOU FUCKER I AM GOING TO SCOTTISH KILL YOU
12:16:00 <elliott> you realise that every second you waste not being connected is
12:16:03 <elliott> a second monqy sleps
12:16:04 <elliott> and
12:16:07 <elliott> a second my ttyrec grows a second longer
12:16:16 <elliott> what if i ascend with this great big ten minute hole in the middle???
12:16:22 <elliott> monqy: is ascend correct terminology
12:16:31 <monqy> correct enough
12:16:47 <monqy> i don't think there's a "correct" word
12:16:51 <Phantom_Hoover> im connect
12:16:52 <monqy> ascend is good enough
12:17:01 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: can you see my screen
12:17:03 <elliott> it ahs crazy yiuf
12:17:04 <elliott> and tosser
12:17:05 <elliott> and colours
12:17:11 <Phantom_Hoover> yes
12:17:14 <elliott> ok here we go
12:17:17 <Phantom_Hoover> good old crazy yiuf
12:17:22 <Phantom_Hoover> he knows your a tosser
12:17:25 <Phantom_Hoover> i see you have
12:17:28 <Phantom_Hoover> dwarf short sword
12:17:31 <Phantom_Hoover> good man
12:17:37 <elliott> ive used elfish too though sry
12:17:52 <Phantom_Hoover> you are kobold!!!!!!!!!
12:17:54 <elliott> monqy: is the cloak good, I forget
12:17:58 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: yes precisely because of kobold camp comics
12:18:00 <elliott> also because
12:18:02 <elliott> its easy
12:18:04 <monqy> have cloak is better than no cloak
12:18:11 <monqy> where by have i mean
12:18:12 <monqy> wear
12:18:23 <Phantom_Hoover> throw elf short sword
12:18:25 <elliott> is cloak better than mail
12:18:25 <Phantom_Hoover> in bin
12:18:32 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: dude i stole it from elves
12:18:36 <Phantom_Hoover> oh
12:18:36 <elliott> indirectly
12:18:38 <elliott> having it is like
12:18:39 <Phantom_Hoover> ok
12:18:40 <elliott> pissing them off
12:18:41 <monqy> cloak goes over body armour not in place of
12:18:45 <elliott> oh
12:19:47 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: have you ever played crawl
12:19:54 <Phantom_Hoover> no
12:19:58 <elliott> imagine nethack but weir
12:19:58 <elliott> d
12:19:59 <elliott> that's crawl
12:20:10 <Phantom_Hoover> it looks like df adventure mode but less awesome
12:20:21 <elliott> this is the boring early level it gets more fun
12:20:36 <elliott> wow what is with this iguana
12:20:44 <Phantom_Hoover> didnt you hate crawl
12:20:52 <Phantom_Hoover> i forget, you hate so many things
12:20:53 <elliott> yes but monqy is therapy
12:21:03 <monqy> im therapy
12:21:15 <Phantom_Hoover> hes therabpy
12:21:43 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: now the best part about crawl
12:21:44 <elliott> is that
12:21:46 <elliott> even though the levels are huge
12:21:49 <elliott> it does all the walking and picking up for you
12:22:01 <Phantom_Hoover> i thought people hate that
12:22:11 <elliott> it is impossible to hate autoexplore when the levels are this boring
12:22:43 <monqy> crawl people like autoexplore. i think it's a crutch but so long as the levels are as they are it's necessary
12:22:58 <elliott> OH BUOY
12:23:05 <monqy> ha
12:23:06 <monqy> ha
12:23:06 <monqy> ha
12:23:19 <elliott> ha
12:23:24 <Phantom_Hoover> ha??????
12:23:29 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: you know worms
12:23:30 <Phantom_Hoover> dont kill worm
12:23:30 <elliott> like
12:23:31 <elliott> the animal
12:23:39 <Phantom_Hoover> kill worm
12:23:41 <elliott> in crawl worms are basically like that, except they can half kill you with one hit
12:23:41 <Phantom_Hoover> smoothly
12:23:54 <Phantom_Hoover> ah they have a battleaxe thenm
12:24:06 <Phantom_Hoover> get runed elven dagger
12:24:11 <Phantom_Hoover> fix runes
12:24:13 <Phantom_Hoover> to say
12:24:15 <elliott> what a boring wand
12:24:20 <Phantom_Hoover> "elves are a bunch of cocks"
12:24:40 <elliott> elves aren't the worst in this game
12:24:42 <elliott> its orcs
12:25:01 <monqy> elves happen later
12:25:04 <elliott> monqy: what is it with giant geckos lately
12:25:10 <monqy> dunno
12:25:11 <Phantom_Hoover> "orcs are a bunch of cocks too"
12:25:19 <monqy> but mostly elves are optional
12:25:40 <elliott> bracers of archery
12:25:42 <elliott> uhhhhh ok
12:25:43 <Phantom_Hoover> also dude at least orcs arent sanctimonious
12:25:51 <elliott> have you seen their priests
12:26:22 <elliott> i love scroll of random uselessness
12:26:30 <elliott> yesss
12:26:39 <elliott> yesss
12:27:22 <elliott> meh
12:28:00 <elliott> holy shit
12:28:11 <elliott> 13:28 <Henzell> eustachio[1/3]: A summoner. His name is Eustachio. You killed his favorite bat. Prepare to die. In 0.8, now found from D:4 to D:10!
12:28:18 <elliott> 13:28 <Henzell> eustachio[2/3]: In trunk, you killed his favourite rat instead.
12:28:21 <elliott> 13:28 <Henzell> eustachio[3/3]: Beware his glorious mustache! Not to be confused with pistachio.
12:28:23 <elliott> im scare
12:28:47 <monqy> bad berk
12:28:52 <elliott> yeah sry
12:28:55 <elliott> didnt realise he blinked
12:29:42 <elliott> holy
12:29:45 <elliott> fucking curare
12:30:36 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: welcome to orc priest
12:30:40 <elliott> hmm
12:30:51 <elliott> hmm
12:30:54 <Phantom_Hoover> wat
12:30:56 <Phantom_Hoover> where orc
12:30:57 <Phantom_Hoover> prieest
12:31:01 <monqy> its gren
12:31:01 <elliott> green o
12:31:04 <elliott> its got a legend
12:31:05 <elliott> look at the right
12:31:08 <Phantom_Hoover> _The hound barely misses you. The hound closely misses you.
12:31:09 <Phantom_Hoover> You hit the hound.
12:31:09 <Phantom_Hoover> _The hound is almost dead.
12:31:09 <Phantom_Hoover> _A hound is nearby!
12:31:09 <Phantom_Hoover> _You start resting.
12:31:09 <Phantom_Hoover> _HP restored.
12:31:12 <Phantom_Hoover> oh
12:31:13 <Phantom_Hoover> it
12:31:16 <elliott> youre behind
12:31:17 <Phantom_Hoover> is catching up
12:31:18 <elliott> somehow
12:31:33 <Phantom_Hoover> whats wrong with orc
12:33:40 <elliott> holy shit
12:34:25 <elliott> fuck!!!
12:35:02 <elliott> phew
12:36:03 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: orc time
12:36:48 <elliott> monqy: this was the plan i was on before right
12:37:09 <monqy> plan/?
12:37:18 <monqy> it was Patashu's plan not mine
12:37:21 <elliott> skill
12:37:22 <elliott> workout
12:37:22 <elliott> thing
12:37:31 <elliott> settings
12:37:32 <elliott> train
12:37:32 <Patashu> oh, we playing crawl again?
12:37:33 <Patashu> rock
12:37:37 <elliott> what
12:37:40 <monqy> rock
12:37:41 <Patashu> I just finished a promising brogue game
12:37:42 <Patashu> IN DEATH
12:37:45 <elliott> ok
12:37:47 <Patashu> a dar blademaster stepped on a paralysis trap
12:37:49 <Patashu> I got paralyzed too
12:37:52 <elliott> monqy: if i want to drop one of these skills for now
12:37:54 <elliott> which should i dorp
12:37:55 <Patashu> and it woke up first and killed me something good
12:38:00 <Patashu> that's my brogue story
12:38:03 <monqy> it happens
12:38:06 <monqy> uhhhh
12:38:13 <monqy> dorp sbl for now maybe?
12:38:18 <Patashu> drop sbl?
12:38:20 <Patashu> is he at min delay?
12:38:24 <monqy> who knows
12:38:29 <Patashu> you can check by uh
12:38:29 <Patashu> @
12:38:29 <monqy> why is he doing sbl anyway
12:38:30 <Patashu> I think
12:38:31 <elliott> ill keep them all on equally
12:38:33 <monqy> qblade+slaying?
12:38:37 <Patashu> because of the apt
12:38:38 <elliott> "very fast"
12:38:39 <elliott> is that mindelay
12:38:40 <Patashu> goes up much faster
12:38:43 <Patashu> very fast?
12:38:46 <Patashu> let's see
12:38:51 <elliott> "Your attack speed is very fast."
12:38:52 <monqy> Patashu: no planning for later on???
12:38:56 <Patashu> starts at 11, so min is 6
12:39:02 <Patashu> yeah, that sounds like mindelay
12:39:06 <Patashu> monqy: qblade IS planning for later on!
12:39:07 <Patashu> :D
12:39:21 <monqy> how much slaying are you planning on
12:39:21 <elliott> i get the feeling that Patashu's plans are inferior to monqy's plasns
12:39:58 <monqy> well the thing is sbl means lots of keypresses later on if you don't have great slaying
12:40:15 <monqy> i'm not a dwhip guy, for the same reasons, but i'm more of a dwhip guy than a sbl guy, for those reasons
12:40:25 <elliott> anyway
12:40:30 <elliott> fuck
12:40:30 <Patashu> lol
12:40:31 <Patashu> hi grinder
12:40:32 <monqy> sbl is fine for stabbing and fine if you like keypresses / have slaying
12:40:59 <Patashu> <Gretell> elliott (L8 KoBe) killed Grinder. (D:5)
12:40:59 <Patashu> gj
12:41:10 <elliott> im in ##crawl
12:41:16 <Patashu> cool
12:41:16 <Patashu> btw
12:41:18 <monqy> but i prefer big weapons or pain weapons or elemental staves or something else like that or unarmed combat
12:41:21 <Patashu> imagine if traps in crawl were like brogue traps
12:41:28 <elliott> hi ijyb
12:41:31 <elliott> ltns
12:41:32 <Patashu> you'd be fighting something and suddenly POISON GAS EVERYWHERE
12:41:39 <Patashu> it took until D:6 for ijyb to spawn?
12:41:40 <Patashu> poor guy
12:41:41 <elliott> uhhh how can i tell whether hes dangerous or not
12:41:43 <elliott> oh
12:41:44 <elliott> d6
12:41:44 <elliott> ok
12:41:45 <Patashu> name colour
12:41:50 <elliott> no i mean
12:41:56 <elliott> some ijybs are mor equal thano thers
12:42:02 <monqy> name colour isn't a great indication of how dangerous something is
12:42:06 <monqy> it gets so much stuff wrong
12:42:06 <Patashu> the only thing a unique can spawn with is different eq
12:42:13 <Patashu> well, it's right about ijyb and menkaure
12:42:14 <Patashu> at least
12:42:24 <Patashu> torment :D
12:42:26 <elliott> that's scarier than ijyb
12:42:44 <elliott> fuck
12:42:51 <Patashu> oo, an orc warrior too
12:42:54 <Patashu> that must be the orcish mines
12:42:59 <monqy> maybe not the best positioning
12:43:05 <Patashu> in fact
12:43:08 <Patashu> it was the worst positioning
12:43:16 <monqy> :o the worst
12:43:21 <Patashu> the worst
12:43:36 <Patashu> heal wounds guzzling is symptomatic of bad play
12:44:07 <elliott> yeah i realised it was bad play
12:44:10 <elliott> i was trying to avoid it becoming dead play
12:44:15 <elliott> how scary are water moccasins
12:44:18 <Patashu> speaking of dead play
12:44:18 <elliott> can i take one on with 8 hp
12:44:20 <Patashu> you're about to be dead
12:44:20 <Patashu> no
12:44:22 <elliott> ok
12:44:29 <elliott> how many turns until im dead
12:44:36 <Patashu> see this is what I mean
12:44:41 <Patashu> you keep waiting until you're 1 turn from death
12:44:43 <elliott> no
12:44:45 <elliott> i got better
12:44:46 <Patashu> yes
12:44:47 <elliott> while you were away
12:44:48 <elliott> slightly
12:44:49 <Patashu> well
12:44:57 <elliott> right monqy
12:44:58 <elliott> slightly???
12:45:09 <monqy> two turns from death
12:45:11 <Patashu> you played like a bad player
12:45:12 <Patashu> two?
12:45:18 <Patashu> can't water moccasin hit quite hard
12:45:18 <monqy> two
12:45:26 <monqy> oh i'm speaking in metaphor
12:45:26 <Patashu> Damage: 10(medium poison)
12:45:27 <Patashu> ah, I see
12:45:28 <Patashu> two
12:45:46 <monqy> i wasn't watching though what happened
12:45:51 <elliott> i have a wand of paralysis
12:45:54 <elliott> would that get the moccasin
12:45:59 <Patashu> really bad positioning on the orc band
12:46:00 <monqy> if it doesn't resist it
12:46:01 <Patashu> then a late zerk
12:46:04 <Patashu> and walking around during the zerk
12:46:09 <elliott> dude
12:46:11 <Patashu> it has bad MR
12:46:13 <elliott> it was a last save attempt
12:46:15 <Patashu> so wands will probably work
12:46:18 <elliott> i know exactly why everything i did was terrible
12:46:24 <Patashu> that's the important step, yes
12:46:26 <monqy> see, 2 turns
12:46:28 <Patashu> haha
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12:46:53 <Patashu> might want to heal isntead of o
12:46:57 <elliott> yeah oops
12:47:11 <Patashu> lol
12:47:17 <Patashu> not sending you very far today
12:47:18 <Patashu> o.O
12:47:27 <elliott> i have blink btw
12:47:30 <elliott> oh
12:47:31 <elliott> no i don't
12:47:32 <elliott> well i might
12:47:46 <monqy> walking around at not full hp?
12:47:53 <elliott> to get to the upstairs to escape
12:47:55 <monqy> oh you were getting to the stairacs
12:48:07 <elliott> leave me alone!!!
12:48:19 <elliott> holy shit
12:48:27 <elliott> ahahaha
12:48:31 <Patashu> why are you holy-shitting about easy monsters
12:48:34 <elliott> because
12:48:36 <elliott> i just want
12:48:37 <elliott> some peace and quiet
12:48:39 <Patashu> you're long past the point in the game where jackals and imps are dangerous
12:48:41 <elliott> and every two turns
12:49:03 <elliott> right, now time to do this like a non-stupid person
12:49:55 <Patashu> btw, if you hate crawl centaurs, brogue centaurs are way worse
12:50:00 <Patashu> they shoot AND try to walk away from you
12:50:02 <Patashu> at the same time
12:50:53 <elliott> hi ecuminecal
12:51:36 <elliott> 13:51 <Gretell> sanka the Frost Mage (L7 MfIE), slain by elliott's ghost on D:5, with 643 points after 5672 turns and 0:13:59.
12:51:37 <elliott> yesss
12:52:01 <elliott> wow i don't have very good piety
12:52:15 <elliott> wh
12:52:15 <Patashu> wow, you don't
12:52:16 <Patashu> why is that
12:52:17 <Patashu> also
12:52:18 <Patashu> hi, everything
12:52:23 <Patashu> wait
12:52:24 <elliott> i think ive been eating a lot and also what the hell
12:52:27 <Patashu> THIS is the staircase to the orcish mines?
12:52:30 <monqy> yes
12:52:31 <Patashu> ok well
12:52:35 <Patashu> everything here should be easy
12:52:37 <Patashu> except for the priest
12:52:39 <monqy> just don't
12:52:40 <Patashu> so back under cover
12:52:46 <monqy> yeah
12:52:47 <Patashu> fight one at a time
12:52:48 <Patashu> no zerking
12:52:50 <Patashu> (too many of them)
12:52:53 <elliott> yes mother
12:52:55 <Patashu> back away from the priest
12:53:03 <Patashu> or kill it whatever
12:53:08 <Patashu> lol
12:53:12 <monqy> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
12:53:13 <Patashu> that priest is not smiting you much
12:53:13 <elliott> how hungry is this ghost
12:53:18 <monqy> hungriest
12:53:20 <Patashu> hungry hungry hippo ghost
12:53:24 <monqy> why isn't that priest smiting oh there it goes
12:53:34 <Patashu> oh hey
12:53:35 <elliott> are you sure i can't berk
12:53:35 <Patashu> read ?tele
12:53:37 <Patashu> read ?tele
12:53:44 <Patashu> oh wow
12:53:46 <Patashu> centaur rape
12:53:58 <Patashu> you got any ?curing?
12:54:25 <Patashu> c'mon tele timeout
12:54:26 <Patashu> there
12:54:27 <Patashu> oh hey
12:54:28 <Patashu> nice tele
12:55:33 <Patashu> :(
12:55:35 <Patashu> bad jelly
12:55:38 <monqy> rest peacefully, potion of speed
12:55:52 <Patashu> you keep running into corners
12:55:58 <Patashu> oh
12:56:01 <Patashu> no darts against jellies
12:56:06 <Patashu> lol
12:56:31 <Patashu> I don't know why you bothered to fight it
12:56:34 <Patashu> jellies are speed 9, you're 10
12:56:38 <Patashu> you could have ran from it indefinitely
12:56:44 <Patashu> (also they hit surprisingly hard)
13:00:33 <elliott> i restarted
13:00:35 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: ^
13:01:09 <Phantom_Hoover> yes but
13:01:19 <Phantom_Hoover> im watching team roomba's videos, this is more importnat
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13:14:26 <Patashu> hi grinder
13:14:32 <Patashu> do you have hand yet?
13:14:42 <Patashu> dude
13:14:43 <Patashu> hand
13:14:43 <Patashu> yeah
13:14:51 <Patashu> wow
13:14:52 <Patashu> -four- levels
13:15:00 <Patashu> exp boost much?
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13:16:41 <Patashu> not doing the sewers?
13:16:44 <elliott> oh
13:16:45 <elliott> yes
13:16:56 <Patashu> it won't show up on ctrl+f
13:16:58 <Patashu> since it isn't a thing
13:17:05 <Patashu> (it probably should be a thing)
13:20:00 <elliott> is that it
13:20:09 <elliott> oh that's the start
13:20:10 <elliott> i think
13:20:30 <monqy> you can use the lev potions to get into another area maybe? i forget
13:20:45 <monqy> a few sewers do that sort of stuff
13:20:52 <elliott> hmm
13:20:55 <elliott> oh well
13:22:14 <elliott> what's this
13:22:19 <monqy> ossuary
13:22:25 <elliott> 14:22 <Henzell> ossuary[1/2]: An early game portal to a miniature tomb, stuffed with mummies and zombies and traps and things. The portal is timed and will eventually close on its own.
13:22:26 <elliott> hmm
13:22:28 <elliott> worth doing???
13:22:38 <elliott> sounds a bit scarrey
13:22:54 <elliott> (also i really want more hp soon i think i'll turn on fighting)
13:24:31 <elliott> monqy: shouldi,,
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13:24:48 <monqy> sure
13:24:59 <Patashu> ossuaries are really east
13:25:02 <Patashu> all you need to know is
13:25:05 <Patashu> everything will be slower than you
13:25:09 <Patashu> (except like zombie bats and shit)
13:25:23 <elliott> whoah
13:25:34 <Patashu> don't drink from sparkling fountains
13:25:37 <elliott> oh
13:25:40 <Patashu> because
13:25:40 <elliott> are they like nethack fountains
13:25:44 <Patashu> yes
13:25:47 <elliott> well
13:25:49 <elliott> i won the jackpot this time
13:26:02 <Patashu> it can randomly give gain <stat> or mutation
13:26:06 <Patashu> but also degeneration, decay and strong poison
13:26:15 <elliott> aww it wore off
13:26:19 <Patashu> it can be situationally worth quaffing from
13:26:21 <Patashu> but not usually
13:26:46 <Patashu> nice
13:26:52 <Patashu> this is the doors vault version of ossuary
13:26:55 <elliott> before i get shit about that
13:27:00 <elliott> i really don't have time to deal with an anything centaur
13:27:04 <Patashu> hahah
13:27:05 <elliott> when i have only 43 max hp
13:27:15 <Patashu> undead centaurs can't use their ranged weapons
13:27:22 <Patashu> undead pretty much can't do shit but melee
13:27:29 <Patashu> unless they're skeletal warriors or bone dragons
13:27:31 <Patashu> which are like
13:27:32 <Patashu> real undead
13:27:34 <Patashu> that do shit
13:28:01 <elliott> not kidding about this being easy
13:28:30 <elliott> that was fun
13:28:39 <Patashu> portal vaults pick from a random collection of designs
13:28:42 <Patashu> so sometimes they're insane
13:28:44 <Patashu> sometimes they're easy
13:28:57 <elliott> what the fuck
13:29:00 <Patashu> like, there's an ice cave that ends with a frost giant
13:29:04 <elliott> uhh
13:29:07 <Patashu> and a bailey with an orc warlor
13:29:08 <elliott> thanks scroll of random uselessness
13:29:08 <Patashu> and so on
13:29:14 <Patashu> also, you just cast summon butterflies
13:29:18 <elliott> no
13:29:21 <elliott> i read a scroll of random uselessness
13:29:25 <Patashu> (yes)
13:29:33 <elliott> can i keep these
13:29:37 <Patashu> x over it
13:29:41 <elliott> i did
13:29:43 <Patashu> does it say summoned?
13:29:47 <elliott> yes
13:29:49 <elliott> can i keep them
13:29:51 <Patashu> then it'll go away eventually
13:29:53 <elliott> no!!!
13:29:56 <elliott> :(
13:30:21 <Patashu> id those potions young kobold
13:30:29 <Patashu> all of the potions
13:30:34 <elliott> i dont have enough for that
13:30:42 <Patashu> lol
13:30:45 <Patashu> nice potions you're lugging around
13:30:51 <Patashu> 'hmm how am I going to get out of this situation'
13:30:52 <elliott> from the tomb
13:30:57 <Patashu> 'paralysis, confusion or degeneration?'
13:30:59 <Patashu> yeah ossuaries do that
13:31:15 <Patashu> like how baileys tend to have enchant <foo> scrolls
13:31:56 <Patashu> wow
13:31:58 <Patashu> robe of the archmagi
13:32:00 <Patashu> too bad, you know
13:32:14 <elliott> must
13:32:15 <elliott> quaff
13:32:16 <elliott> potions
13:32:16 <elliott> f
13:32:18 <elliott> of
13:32:20 <elliott> mutation
13:32:24 <Patashu> ooo
13:32:29 <Patashu> not bad
13:32:30 <elliott> jackpot
13:32:32 <elliott> and again!!
13:32:33 <Patashu> +blink mutation
13:32:33 <Patashu> wait
13:32:35 <elliott> wait will i lose these
13:32:38 <elliott> if i do it again
13:32:38 <Patashu> possibly
13:32:39 <Patashu> first
13:32:43 <monqy> look at your a screen
13:32:43 <Patashu> can you show me the fail rate on +blink mutation
13:32:51 <Patashu> 14%
13:32:54 <Patashu> will that go up with evo?
13:32:55 <Patashu> do you know, monqy?
13:33:05 <monqy> i don't think it would go up with evo
13:33:07 <Patashu> ok
13:33:08 <Patashu> well
13:33:11 <Patashu> that's pretty handy
13:33:12 <monqy> maybe xl? i dunno
13:33:13 <Patashu> you know how blink works?
13:33:26 <elliott> uhhh
13:33:30 <elliott> like scroll of blinking???
13:33:30 <monqy> that's random blink, not the controlled blink from the scrolls
13:33:36 <Patashu> no, it's not awesomeblink
13:33:38 <Patashu> it's random blink
13:33:41 <Patashu> but it's still a source of blink
13:33:42 <elliott> ohhh right
13:33:45 <elliott> yeah ok
13:33:48 <elliott> i dont feel any great need to mutate
13:33:50 <Patashu> so don't forget you can do it
13:33:51 <monqy> if you also have teleport control you get a semicontrolled blink
13:33:54 <elliott> i do
13:33:57 <Patashu> oooh
13:33:59 <Patashu> don't die
13:34:03 <elliott> sorry, no good at that
13:34:06 <Patashu> scblink is seriously useful
13:34:08 <Patashu> well, at least try
13:34:09 <elliott> i'll get on with dying, slowly
13:34:14 <monqy> you can use your semicontrolled blink to do anything you want
13:34:22 <elliott> even win?
13:34:24 <monqy> yes
13:34:25 <monqy> even win
13:34:26 <Patashu> yes, eeven win
13:34:32 <Patashu> see something threatening? scblink away
13:34:36 <Patashu> surrounded by melee monsters? scblink away
13:34:41 <elliott> i dont buy into this crawl startegy of
13:34:43 <elliott> run away from everything
13:34:43 <Patashu> a few turns from death? scblink away (NOTE: NOT ONE TURN, MULTIPLE)
13:34:49 <elliott> its repulsive
13:34:51 <Patashu> crawl is all about knowing when to run
13:34:52 <Patashu> sorry
13:34:55 <elliott> exactly
13:34:56 <elliott> fuck that
13:34:58 <elliott> im not playing by that rule
13:34:59 <Patashu> if you want to never die maybe play pokemon mystery dungeon???
13:35:04 <elliott> wow rude
13:35:07 <Patashu> :)
13:35:09 <elliott> no i want to be able to die because of my own stupidity
13:35:12 <elliott> not because i wasn't a coward
13:35:12 <elliott> :(
13:35:29 <Patashu> first ogre of the game?
13:35:36 <Patashu> I think that ogre could have killed you
13:35:37 <Patashu> but w/e
13:35:49 <monqy> i would definitely have blonked away after it hit that big time
13:35:50 <elliott> not first i dont think
13:35:58 <Patashu> I would have too, yeah
13:36:00 <Patashu> and thrown darts or something
13:36:03 <Patashu> watch the jelly
13:36:13 <monqy> it'll eat the items then split oh it didn't split yet
13:36:14 <elliott> time to blonk away
13:36:18 <elliott> ehh wait
13:36:20 <elliott> hmm
13:36:21 <elliott> no
13:36:26 <elliott> if i switch to an alt weapon the ogre will kill me
13:36:29 <Patashu> get to a chokepoint
13:36:51 <elliott> Patashu is going to tell me to throw and back away
13:36:55 <elliott> i count on monqy to steer me to the righteous path
13:36:56 <Patashu> do you have stones?
13:37:08 <Patashu> also
13:37:10 <Patashu> you don't have to swap
13:37:14 <Patashu> +4 is almost entirely resistant to corrosion
13:37:33 <Patashu> when you drop below 30 hp
13:37:35 <Patashu> back off
13:37:46 <Patashu> like now yeah
13:37:58 <Patashu> lucky you didn't get hit again
13:38:09 <elliott> i hear crawl is all about luck
13:38:09 <monqy> randomized movement energy "wow fun"
13:38:10 <Patashu> you were one_turn_from_death for a while
13:38:16 <Patashu> "exciting"
13:38:19 <Patashu> "an experience"
13:38:33 <elliott> blink time
13:38:40 <Patashu> yes
13:38:48 <Patashu> lol
13:38:51 <elliott> thanks blink
13:38:52 <monqy> good blink
13:38:55 <Patashu> nice direction
13:38:56 <elliott> oh well
13:38:59 <Patashu> btw if you point your blonk at a wall
13:39:05 <Patashu> it will just pick randomly
13:39:10 <Patashu> if it can't find an open tile in that direction
13:39:16 <Patashu> (found that out the hard way)
13:39:43 <Patashu> id
13:39:44 <Patashu> id things
13:39:52 <Patashu> mmm
13:39:53 <Patashu> yummy poison
13:41:03 <Patashu> wow, even javelins are too big for kobolds
13:41:04 <Patashu> that's sad
13:41:18 <elliott> hi temple
13:41:19 <elliott> bye temple
13:42:12 <Patashu> ooo aren't phantoms scary
13:42:14 <Patashu> and very fun to fight
13:42:16 <elliott> more like irritating
13:42:23 <Patashu> it is what we humans call sarcasm
13:42:24 <Patashu> stop
13:42:27 <elliott> i was already stopping
13:42:28 <Patashu> baaack away
13:42:29 <elliott> im not a complete moron
13:42:29 <Patashu> ok good
13:42:36 <elliott> oh no
13:42:37 <Patashu> boink??
13:42:40 <elliott> not m ypotion of coagulated blood
13:42:40 <Patashu> you pick odd directions for your scblinks
13:42:41 <elliott> i already did
13:42:43 <Patashu> lol
13:42:44 <elliott> i picked up
13:43:03 <Patashu> scblink east?
13:43:04 <Patashu> and hand?
13:43:05 <Patashu> or something
13:43:15 <monqy> east sounds like asking for it to fail
13:43:21 <elliott> this control is idiotic
13:43:22 <monqy> was that east
13:43:27 <Patashu> huh
13:43:30 <monqy> gj
13:43:32 <Patashu> I seriously thought scblink was more reliable than that
13:43:49 <monqy> "2 turns before death: saves the day"
13:43:50 <elliott> i really really need more hp
13:43:56 <elliott> here
13:43:57 <Patashu> if you want more hp
13:43:57 <elliott> *there
13:43:58 <Patashu> play non kobold
13:44:01 <elliott> ha ha ha
13:44:02 <Patashu> kobold has -20% max hp
13:44:04 <elliott> monqy says fighting gives me hp so
13:44:05 <monqy> could turn off armour and dodge
13:44:05 <elliott> fuck tht
13:44:06 <elliott> *that
13:44:09 <elliott> monqy: meh ok
13:44:40 <monqy> or could turn off sbl and turn armour back on or w/e
13:44:44 <Patashu> wasn't that scroll recharging?
13:45:11 <elliott> not having any of that beetle's bullshit
13:45:36 <Patashu> rcurse doesn't uncurse stuff not worn
13:45:42 <elliott> lol
13:45:50 <Patashu> zerk?
13:45:51 <Patashu> zerk
13:46:03 <Patashu> where did edmund go
13:46:03 <Patashu> hi
13:46:07 <Patashu> wow
13:46:10 <Patashu> why did edmund hind
13:46:11 <Patashu> *hide
13:46:13 <Patashu> instead of trying ot kill you
13:46:14 <Patashu> how odd
13:46:16 <elliott> hes scared of my kobold fuckin power
13:46:20 <Patashu> apparently
13:46:21 <Patashu> take his chain mail
13:46:24 <Patashu> use it to strengthen yourself
13:46:27 <elliott> way ahead of you
13:46:31 <Patashu> wow
13:46:31 <elliott> whoah
13:46:31 <Patashu> nice
13:47:20 <Patashu> lots of jellies this game
13:47:45 <Patashu> why is nothing dropping corpses
13:48:14 <elliott> why is everything such a fucking coward
13:48:19 <elliott> all the monsters
13:48:20 <elliott> are crawl players
13:48:21 <Patashu> because it works
13:48:27 <elliott> concidentally
13:48:29 <elliott> they're better at it than me
13:48:37 <Patashu> foood
13:48:39 <elliott> dude
13:48:40 <elliott> i ate
13:48:41 <elliott> ration
13:48:44 <elliott> because iwas near starving
13:48:54 <Patashu> a convenient excuse
13:49:30 <elliott> what should i recharge
13:49:34 <Patashu> you have but one wand
13:49:36 <Patashu> milord
13:49:43 <Patashu> huh
13:49:49 <Patashu> oh, is it enchant armour
13:49:49 <Patashu> ?
13:49:58 <elliott> fhfhfhfhf
13:49:58 <Patashu> hahahahaha
13:50:05 <elliott> LMAO
13:50:11 <Patashu> he's got you nailed
13:50:45 <elliott> lucky as shit
13:50:51 <Patashu> no luck there
13:50:55 <elliott> yeah it was
13:50:55 <Patashu> it's not like your ghost could zerk you
13:50:58 <elliott> oh wait
13:50:58 <Patashu> (thank god)
13:50:59 <elliott> thought it was preist
13:51:02 <Patashu> lol
13:51:03 <elliott> yeah if it was priest
13:51:04 <elliott> one smiting
13:51:07 <elliott> would have been it
13:51:14 <elliott> spekaing of orc priests
13:51:15 <Patashu> the priest was late to the party
13:51:39 <elliott> thhhh
13:51:42 <Patashu> zerk?
13:51:43 <Patashu> zekr
13:51:51 <Patashu> ouch
13:52:35 <elliott> orcish mines entry methinks
13:53:51 <Patashu> chokepoint plz
13:54:04 <Patashu> notice the orc wizard going all the way to the top left?
13:54:08 <Patashu> hoping to get the ranged drop on you?
13:54:12 <Patashu> crawl conspires against you like that
13:56:07 <elliott> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
13:56:14 <Patashu> what
13:56:15 <Patashu> hill giant?
13:56:17 <elliott> and blink frog
13:56:24 <Patashu> wow
13:56:25 <Patashu> ummm
13:56:30 <elliott> note, I have blink
13:56:30 <Patashu> 30 damage
13:56:33 <Patashu> and that's before its weapon
13:56:39 <elliott> i have trogs though
13:57:00 <Patashu> you should probably bia it
13:57:04 <Patashu> or something
13:57:06 <Patashu> idk wow
13:57:09 <Patashu> early as fuck hill giant
13:57:17 <elliott> ehhh
13:57:19 <elliott> abaa tab tab tab
13:57:24 <Patashu> it can two shot you
13:57:26 <elliott> the alternative is running away forever
13:57:29 <elliott> it's never going to just go away
13:57:29 <Patashu> (zerk just makes it threeshot)
13:57:32 <Patashu> well
13:57:36 <Patashu> you're samespeed as it
13:57:44 <Patashu> so you could just skip the level, or explore the rest of it, or whatever
13:57:46 <elliott> monqy: what would YOU do
13:57:49 <Patashu> you don't HAVE to kill everything the instant you spot it
13:57:50 <Patashu> in crawl
13:57:58 <monqy> blonking away from it into a wall(thus getting blonked right into it)
13:58:11 <elliott> thanks monqy
13:58:16 <Patashu> actually
13:58:19 <Patashu> that's a blink frog, I just saw
13:58:20 <Patashu> I would run
13:58:24 <Patashu> and deal with the blink frog as it comes to you
13:58:28 <Patashu> then you can worry about JUST the hill giant
13:58:37 <elliott> that's not going to work
13:58:46 <Patashu> hmm
13:58:48 <elliott> i can blink upwards
13:58:49 <Patashu> scblink away?
13:58:50 <Patashu> yeah
13:58:58 <Patashu> kite the blink frog to you
13:58:59 <Patashu> it's fast
13:59:02 <Patashu> lol
13:59:04 <Patashu> uhh
13:59:06 <Patashu> scblink away
13:59:09 <elliott> dude
13:59:13 <Patashu> literally anywhere
13:59:16 <Patashu> is better than right there
13:59:19 <elliott> monqy: should i ab aa tab tab tab just wondering
13:59:24 <monqy> scblink
13:59:31 <elliott> help
13:59:44 <Patashu> what, direction?
13:59:45 <Patashu> south I guess
13:59:51 <Patashu> cool
14:00:13 <elliott> l
14:00:14 <elliott> o
14:00:14 <elliott> l
14:00:19 <Patashu> fun
14:00:26 <elliott> tele?
14:00:28 <Patashu> ?tele is not a bad idea
14:00:28 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
14:00:31 <Patashu> lol
14:00:38 <Patashu> I don't know what I just did
14:00:47 <elliott> ok where'd i go
14:00:52 <elliott> *where'd'should
14:00:52 <Patashu> you get to pick a location
14:00:53 <Patashu> so
14:00:57 <Patashu> by the stairs is obvious
14:01:02 <Patashu> (too obvious)
14:01:21 <elliott> how about here
14:01:28 <elliott> going up the stairs is pointless
14:01:33 <elliott> there's nothing there, and it'll only take me a few turns to recover
14:01:49 <Patashu> well, anywhere that's Not There is fine really
14:01:53 <Patashu> go explore the rest of the level
14:02:00 <elliott> lol
14:02:01 <Patashu> what
14:02:06 <elliott> "minor" deviation
14:02:13 <Patashu> very funny, crawl
14:02:23 <elliott> come on
14:02:26 <elliott> let me just kill the hill giant
14:02:28 <elliott> this is delaying
14:02:30 <Patashu> it'll kill you
14:02:34 <elliott> monqy: will it kill me
14:02:55 <Patashu> hint
14:02:57 <Patashu> hill giant (C) | Speed: 10 | HD: 11 | Health: 42-78 | AC/EV: 3/4 | Damage: 30 | Res: magic(44), drown | Chunks: contaminated | XP: 657.
14:03:01 <Patashu> and that's pre giant club damage
14:03:08 <Patashu> which I think makes it Damage: 50? I'm not sure how the math works tbh
14:03:14 <Patashu> if it just straight adds the damage modifier
14:03:15 <Patashu> or does something funky
14:03:19 <Patashu> anyway it does A Lot
14:03:30 <elliott> tele again?
14:04:10 <Patashu> hmm
14:04:12 <Patashu> what else do you have
14:04:15 <Patashu> wands, for instance
14:04:20 <Patashu> if you could paralyze it it'd be easy
14:04:38 <Patashu> oh, confusion this game
14:04:41 <Patashu> that works too
14:04:50 <elliott> kill the z, confuse the hill orc, kill it?
14:05:10 <Patashu> yeah
14:05:26 <Patashu> lol
14:05:31 <Patashu> well
14:05:43 <elliott> monqy: are you ready
14:05:48 <Patashu> I don't think monqy is here
14:07:58 <Patashu> so
14:08:00 <Patashu> is this happenign
14:08:01 <Patashu> or not
14:11:29 <elliott> back
14:11:39 <elliott> trog's?
14:11:45 <Patashu> it got confused
14:11:46 <Patashu> hmm
14:12:01 <elliott> trog's then berk it?
14:12:02 <Patashu> I don't think trogs would regen you fast enough to matter atm
14:12:09 <elliott> fine
14:12:10 <elliott> berk it?
14:12:13 <Patashu> uhhh
14:12:16 <Patashu> if you want
14:12:17 <elliott> i can blink out afterwards
14:12:20 <Patashu> not during a zerk
14:12:23 <Patashu> haha
14:12:24 <elliott> lmao
14:12:25 <Patashu> nice going giant
14:12:31 <elliott> it got unconfused
14:12:31 <elliott> oh well
14:12:33 <Patashu> wow
14:12:34 <Patashu> that was quick
14:12:34 <Patashu> well
14:12:37 <Patashu> only one thing to od now, right
14:12:48 <Patashu> grats
14:12:50 <elliott> fuckin a
14:12:53 <Patashu> ok
14:12:54 <Patashu> that blink frog
14:12:57 <Patashu> is going to be a seriois ussie
14:12:58 <Patashu> starting
14:12:58 <Patashu> now
14:13:00 <Patashu> hand
14:13:09 <Patashu> keep away from it
14:13:13 <Patashu> scblink as needed
14:13:20 <Patashu> haha
14:13:24 <Patashu> oh
14:13:25 <Patashu> it's almost dead
14:13:28 <Patashu> hmm
14:13:30 <Patashu> how hard can it hit
14:13:33 -!- Ngevd has joined.
14:13:40 <Patashu> wow, 20 damage
14:13:47 <Ngevd> Hello!
14:13:50 <Patashu> hi
14:13:50 <elliott> ill back away once or twice
14:13:51 <Ngevd> (Crawl?
14:13:52 <elliott> then pummel
14:13:53 <Ngevd> )
14:13:53 <elliott> yes
14:13:54 <Patashu> (yes)
14:14:16 <elliott> ill back away once or twice then pummel
14:14:17 <elliott> sound good?
14:14:24 <Ngevd> elliott, I'm worried, this is like the time ais523 got into Dredmor
14:14:31 <elliott> Ngevd: SHHH
14:14:32 <elliott> concentrating
14:14:40 <Patashu> also, ok
14:14:49 <Patashu> hahah
14:14:53 <Patashu> blink frog being a troll
14:14:53 <elliott> woot
14:15:00 <Patashu> nice
14:15:02 <Patashu> very good job
14:16:29 <elliott> lol what a waste
14:17:04 <Patashu> ring of fire isn't completely a waste
14:17:06 <elliott> yeah but
14:17:07 <elliott> +2 dex
14:17:16 <Patashu> against things that are fiery
14:17:18 <Patashu> I would much rather have rf+
14:17:20 <Patashu> in particular
14:17:26 <Patashu> you want a lot of rf+ for zot
14:17:29 <Patashu> (due to orbs of fire)
14:18:10 <Patashu> but since ring of fire also gives a cold vuln I wouldn't walk around in it
14:18:23 <elliott> 11 potions of curing
14:18:24 <elliott> nice
14:18:34 <Patashu> you are racking those potions of curing up
14:18:40 <elliott> how strong do those trolls hit
14:18:42 <Patashu> do you know what stashing is?
14:18:45 <elliott> no
14:18:48 <elliott> wait
14:18:50 <elliott> is it the same as nethack
14:18:50 <Patashu> troll (T) | Speed: 10 | HD: 7 | Health: 25-53 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Damage: 20, 15, 15 | Flags: regen | Res: magic(28) | Chunks: contaminated | XP: 305.
14:18:58 <Patashu> probably
14:18:59 <elliott> why aren't i getting more hppppp
14:19:04 <Patashu> anyway, you know how fire and ice damage can wreck your consumables?
14:19:05 <Patashu> well
14:19:08 -!- MDude has joined.
14:19:10 <Patashu> the more consumables you have the more likely it is to happen
14:19:18 <Patashu> so it makes sense to stash (temporarily or permanently) large quantities of consumables
14:19:20 <Patashu> leaving just a few at a time
14:19:27 <elliott> right
14:19:34 <elliott> this troll scares me a bit
14:19:55 <elliott> hmm
14:20:09 <Patashu> I'd back away from it
14:20:10 <Patashu> and regen a bit
14:20:19 <elliott> back away from what into where
14:20:23 <Patashu> ne
14:20:25 <Patashu> the normal orc is like
14:20:27 <Patashu> you don't care anymore
14:20:51 <Patashu> good zerk
14:20:52 <Patashu> btw
14:20:53 <Patashu> use that ench scroll
14:20:56 <elliott> was gonna
14:20:59 <elliott> thanks for reminding me
14:20:59 <Patashu> cool
14:21:11 <elliott> almost full piety
14:21:47 <Patashu> uhh
14:21:49 <elliott> blink time
14:21:59 <Patashu> blonk
14:22:06 <Patashu> zerk time?
14:22:09 <elliott> yep
14:23:19 <elliott> hmm
14:23:32 <elliott> no convenient chokepoint
14:24:29 <Patashu> you should probably not hand if it's blatantly not needed
14:24:35 <Patashu> just so trog gives you gifts sooner/more often
14:24:40 <Patashu> who knows, you might even use one of his gifts!
14:24:43 <elliott> yeaaah i was getting a bit worried but it was probably not necessary
14:24:48 <Patashu> like if he gifts, say, a qblade of flaming or a sabre of speed
14:24:58 <elliott> why aren't i getting more hp :(
14:25:24 <Patashu> you're a tiny freaking kobold
14:25:26 <Patashu> this is all you get
14:25:57 <Patashu> hmm
14:25:59 <Patashu> ctrl+f sabre
14:26:00 <Patashu> for me
14:26:00 <elliott> more hp \o/
14:26:01 <myndzi> |
14:26:01 <myndzi> /|
14:26:14 <elliott> its on d:4
14:26:17 <Patashu> sabre is the upgrade to short sword
14:26:21 <Patashu> until you get a quick blade
14:26:22 <elliott> i dont care, its on d:4
14:26:37 <Patashu> you don't even have to manually walk there
14:26:38 <elliott> better than my chain mail of cold resistance?
14:26:41 <Patashu> it might even be branded
14:26:51 <Patashu> plate is pretty fucking sweet
14:26:52 <Patashu> so
14:27:01 <elliott> monqy: ping
14:28:07 <Patashu> also, if you swap to that sabre
14:28:08 <elliott> ugh
14:28:10 <elliott> i don't trust Patashu
14:28:12 <Patashu> get your short blades skill to 12
14:28:13 <Patashu> for mindelay
14:28:15 <elliott> monqy said things about sabre before
14:28:58 <elliott> 09:14 elliott: are sabres any good vs short swords
14:28:58 <elliott> 09:15 monqy: they do more damage but are a bit slower so they need more skill to get them fast
14:28:58 <elliott> 09:15 monqy: and they're a bit less accurate
14:29:08 <elliott> less accurate Patashu!!!
14:29:36 <Patashu> he's not actually telling you anything useful
14:29:39 <Patashu> here's the actual useful information:
14:29:46 <Patashu> you want to use the heftiest weapon you can get to mindelay
14:29:51 <Patashu> (brands notwithstanding)
14:30:03 <elliott> sigh fine
14:30:07 <Patashu> for instance, 'of electrocution' does a fixed amount of damage, so no matter what it's on it owns early game
14:30:13 <elliott> is there a way to say
14:30:16 <elliott> "continue walking where you were"
14:30:20 <elliott> instead of searching and selecting again
14:30:29 <Patashu> yes
14:30:30 <Patashu> G enter
14:30:33 <elliott> thanks
14:30:34 <Patashu> the most important button in cnrawl
14:30:35 <elliott> lol
14:30:43 <elliott> will these be weaklings
14:30:45 <Patashu> bumrush the priest
14:30:45 <elliott> or
14:31:15 <elliott> ok now how do i make it not shit
14:31:30 <Patashu> 12 sbl
14:31:33 <Patashu> then it'll be at mindelay
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14:31:36 <elliott> yaeh but
14:31:38 <elliott> i want enchantments and shit
14:31:44 <Patashu> do more dungeon
14:31:46 <Patashu> get more scrolls
14:31:48 <Patashu> also, it might already have good +s
14:31:52 <Patashu> hit things with it to find out
14:32:03 <elliott> good enough
14:32:12 <elliott> steam dragon?
14:32:22 <elliott> uh oh
14:32:24 <Patashu> whee
14:32:48 <elliott> uhh
14:32:50 <elliott> blink?
14:33:22 <Patashu> eh
14:33:25 <Patashu> this is a ?heal wounds moment
14:33:27 <Patashu> if ever there was one
14:33:28 <Patashu> (then zerk)
14:33:37 <Patashu> oh hey, none
14:33:39 <elliott> ?curing then
14:33:39 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:33:39 <Patashu> ?curing then?
14:33:39 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:33:39 <Patashu> lol
14:33:47 <Patashu> I love that
14:33:50 <elliott> this is a blink moment
14:33:59 <elliott> ugh i really just want to
14:34:01 <elliott> zip on to the upstairs
14:34:41 <Patashu> I'd try ?curing again
14:34:42 <Patashu> myself
14:34:48 <elliott> ok, that worked
14:34:51 <Patashu> whee
14:34:56 <elliott> yikes
14:34:59 <elliott> what is giving me so much pain
14:35:04 <elliott> priest or dragon?
14:35:10 <Patashu> may as well do the priest first
14:35:13 <elliott> i mean
14:35:13 <Patashu> since it rips and tears fast
14:35:14 <elliott> which one is killing me
14:35:19 <Patashu> looks like the priest lol
14:35:37 <Patashu> lucky
14:35:41 <elliott> christ almighty on a fucking pogo stick
14:35:44 <Patashu> now get off the level
14:35:46 <Patashu> oh
14:35:46 <Patashu> ok
14:36:18 <elliott> hmm
14:36:19 <Patashu> in most roguelikes, you can get healing potions so strong it's always the safe thing to do
14:36:21 <Patashu> crawl's are just weak enough
14:36:22 <elliott> should i add dodging to the mix?
14:36:26 <Patashu> that it's not risk free
14:36:33 <Patashu> also
14:36:36 <Patashu> you're wearing a buckler, right?
14:36:38 <elliott> yes
14:36:42 <elliott> i dont even know what a buckler is
14:36:45 <Patashu> raise shields to 1 or so
14:36:51 <elliott> oh a shield
14:36:51 <elliott> wow
14:36:53 <elliott> i thought it was like
14:36:58 <Patashu> a belt buckle?
14:36:58 <elliott> armour for your balls or something
14:37:01 <Patashu> lol
14:37:09 <elliott> ok down we go
14:37:34 <elliott> surprisingly like d:1
14:37:34 <Patashu> wtf is that
14:37:38 <Patashu> oh
14:37:39 <Patashu> is that water?
14:37:41 <elliott> yeah
14:37:41 <Patashu> did you change your tileset
14:37:43 <elliott> no
14:38:17 <Patashu> lol
14:38:17 <elliott> ehhhh
14:38:18 <Patashu> that giant spore
14:38:20 <elliott> i don't want to be near that giant spore
14:38:21 <elliott> blink time
14:38:37 <Patashu> I actually have no idea how damaging a giant spore explosion is
14:38:39 <elliott> fuck my life
14:38:45 <elliott> can i still cast spells?
14:38:45 <Patashu> ?curing
14:38:45 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:38:46 <Patashu> do it
14:38:47 <elliott> i can confuse the troll
14:38:53 <Patashu> now you can do whatever you like
14:39:31 <elliott> take that active ballistomycete
14:39:36 <elliott> boooring
14:39:44 <Patashu> btw, I'd like to quantify for you how much berzerk helps your melee
14:39:49 <elliott> infinitely
14:39:49 <Patashu> -you go under the effects of haste, so 1.5x as fast
14:39:55 <Patashu> -you get 1.5x whatever your hp was
14:40:12 <elliott> the HP is the main thing for me really
14:40:14 <Patashu> -you do 1d10 extra damage and have 5 extra strength (which adds a tiny bit more damage as well), as though under the effects of might
14:40:15 <elliott> since i have so damn little of it
14:40:16 <Patashu> and I think that's it
14:40:23 <Patashu> well, it's the hp AND the haste And the damage
14:40:29 <Patashu> it stretches out what little hp you have soooooo much
14:40:31 <Patashu> as long as you use it right
14:40:53 <elliott> hi yak
14:40:58 <elliott> hi 2 yaks
14:41:25 <elliott> the worst thign
14:41:27 <elliott> is a fleeing monster
14:41:45 <elliott> hmm
14:42:10 <elliott> yesss
14:42:34 <elliott> i really don't like how hard those trolls hit
14:42:49 <elliott> going to focus more on fighting to get that HP up
14:43:06 <elliott> hahahaha
14:43:07 <Patashu> hi second hill giant of the game
14:43:21 <elliott> holy shit
14:43:23 <Patashu> just stop
14:43:24 <Patashu> lol
14:43:33 <elliott> could lightning help me here
14:43:40 <Patashu> it wouldn't stop the troll from beating on you
14:43:48 <Patashu> baack up
14:43:59 <elliott> the only way is closer to the hill giant
14:44:00 <elliott> down here
14:44:03 <Patashu> really?
14:44:04 <Patashu> show me the map
14:44:08 <elliott> it's there
14:44:15 <elliott> oh the full map
14:44:18 <elliott> how do you bring that up
14:44:28 <Patashu> X
14:44:29 <Patashu> capital
14:44:38 <Patashu> looks fine to me
14:44:39 <Patashu> keep backing up
14:44:43 <elliott> oh ok
14:44:51 <elliott> fuck
14:45:00 <Patashu> and when the regen runs out
14:45:02 <Patashu> zerk or something like that
14:45:04 <Patashu> (crazy I know)
14:45:08 <elliott> how s hould i back up this way
14:45:15 <elliott> into the corridor >?
14:45:26 <Patashu> you could pillar dance around that p on its side
14:45:39 <elliott> no
14:45:50 <Patashu> you should totally zerk
14:46:08 <Patashu> wheeeee
14:46:15 <Patashu> wow
14:46:18 <elliott> ahahahahahahahaahhahaahahahahaha
14:46:18 <Patashu> -another-
14:46:26 <Patashu> did it notice you?
14:46:28 <elliott> no
14:46:30 <Patashu> go west
14:46:40 <Patashu> cool
14:46:42 <Patashu> deal with it later then
14:47:24 <Patashu> oo
14:47:25 <Patashu> sonja is fun
14:47:30 <Patashu> she's guaranteed to have curare
14:47:32 <elliott> i hate curare
14:47:33 <Patashu> and likely to have a dagger of distortion
14:47:41 <elliott> hmm
14:47:44 <elliott> ?curing, ab?
14:47:45 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:47:51 <Patashu> curing doesn't cure slow
14:47:53 <Patashu> but it will cure the poison
14:48:05 <Patashu> also don't zerk her
14:48:06 <Patashu> she blinks
14:48:12 <Patashu> oh
14:48:13 <elliott> hahaha
14:48:14 <elliott> i cured
14:48:14 <Patashu> it's only yellow poison
14:48:16 <elliott> before i got the pois
14:48:16 <Patashu> don't bother curing it
14:48:25 <elliott> now it's red
14:48:36 <elliott> eh
14:48:38 <elliott> this is hopeless
14:48:40 <elliott> i should blink out
14:48:41 <Patashu> really she's going to keep curaring you for a while
14:48:44 <Patashu> nah
14:48:50 <elliott> i don't have that many ?curing
14:48:54 <Patashu> well
14:48:55 <Patashu> 1)
14:48:57 <elliott> what's her hp like
14:48:59 <Patashu> you don't have to cure it until she stops using it
14:49:04 <Patashu> um
14:49:05 <Patashu> not much
14:49:05 <Patashu> lol
14:49:07 <Patashu> she's a kobold, see
14:49:07 <Patashu> like you
14:49:12 <Patashu> wow
14:49:13 <Patashu> stop
14:49:15 <Patashu> omfg
14:49:18 <Patashu> hahahaha
14:49:22 <Patashu> fucker
14:49:35 <elliott> can i blink
14:49:42 <Patashu> sure
14:49:46 <elliott> which direction :P
14:49:47 <elliott> down?
14:50:01 <elliott> actually
14:50:03 <elliott> i should ?curing first
14:50:10 <Patashu> stop
14:50:11 <elliott> meh
14:50:12 <Patashu> blink south first
14:50:13 <Patashu> if you cancel it
14:50:14 <Patashu> you lose a turn
14:50:15 <Patashu> :D
14:50:30 <elliott> !
14:50:31 <Patashu> ahahaha
14:50:35 <Patashu> one east
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14:50:41 <Patashu> so she can't see you
14:50:47 <elliott> curing?
14:50:53 <Patashu> how sick are you?
14:50:56 <Patashu> only yellow
14:50:57 <elliott> yellow but 12 hp
14:50:57 <Patashu> mmm
14:50:59 <elliott> 12 h
14:50:59 <elliott> p
14:51:01 <elliott> i would heal wounds
14:51:04 <elliott> but i got none
14:51:09 <Patashu> I want to say read ?tele
14:51:09 <Patashu> but
14:51:10 <Patashu> hmm
14:51:13 <elliott> if i read this
14:51:16 <elliott> and she walks up to me
14:51:18 <elliott> then i can zerk her
14:51:18 <Patashu> yes
14:51:21 <elliott> erm
14:51:22 <elliott> by read this
14:51:23 <elliott> i mean quaff this
14:51:25 <elliott> ?curing
14:51:25 <lambdabot> Unknown command, try @list
14:51:26 <elliott> then wait
14:51:28 <elliott> then zerk
14:51:29 <Patashu> wait
14:51:34 <Patashu> curare doesn't make you exhausted anymore?
14:51:37 <Patashu> huh
14:52:09 <elliott> is that a decent plan?
14:52:16 <elliott> i just don't want to die
14:52:22 <Patashu> I don't want you to die either
14:52:24 <Patashu> I guess ?curing then
14:52:29 <Patashu> then we'll see what's the haps
14:52:34 <Patashu> err !curing
14:52:40 <Patashu> ! is for potions ? is for scrolls, I keep forgetting
14:52:53 <elliott> perfect
14:53:01 <elliott> zerk time
14:53:05 <elliott> right?
14:53:12 <Patashu> tempting but
14:53:12 <Patashu> Sonja blinks!
14:53:15 <Patashu> your call
14:53:26 <Patashu> hehehe
14:53:32 <Patashu> wow
14:53:35 <Patashu> sonja pulled ALL the stops
14:53:35 <elliott> holy shit
14:53:35 <Patashu> this game
14:53:39 <Patashu> dagger of venom too :D
14:53:42 <Patashu> wait for zerk to wear off
14:53:44 <Patashu> !curing
14:53:44 <Patashu> and don't die
14:53:49 <Patashu> don't butcher her corpse
14:53:51 <Patashu> it'll keep you zerk longer
14:53:52 <Patashu> pray on it
14:53:59 <elliott> http://ompldr.org/vZGh2Nw
14:54:13 <elliott> Patashu: no corpse
14:54:19 <Patashu> that's fine too
14:54:51 <elliott> hmm
14:54:54 <elliott> that short sword...
14:55:07 <elliott> worth getting?
14:55:14 <Patashu> short sword of venom would be pretty good
14:55:36 <elliott> ok
14:55:37 <elliott> off we go again
14:55:41 <Patashu> wield her sword
14:56:06 <elliott> wh
14:56:08 <Patashu> trap
14:56:11 <Patashu> just walk away from it
14:56:36 <elliott> remember that hill orc
14:56:44 <elliott> eeeh
14:56:49 <Patashu> swap to the +3 sword
14:56:51 <Patashu> will corrode less
14:56:53 <Patashu> (that's how it works in this game)
14:56:54 <Patashu> then swap back
14:56:58 <Patashu> haha
14:57:02 <Patashu> well, it's not corrosion resistant anymore is it
14:57:15 <elliott> welp
14:57:22 <elliott> any suggested adjustments?
14:57:54 <elliott> btw just out of curiosity, how far into the game would you say I am
14:58:10 <Patashu> this is like
14:58:11 <Patashu> start of midgame
14:58:12 <Patashu> really
14:58:19 <elliott> thought so
14:58:32 <Patashu> also, I guess that's fine
14:58:43 <elliott> maybe up armour or shields?
14:58:51 <Patashu> what you're doing right now is fine
14:59:13 <elliott> im really concerned about how much my hp drops when fighting eg trolls though
14:59:22 <Patashu> then zerk them
14:59:26 <elliott> pfft
14:59:31 <Patashu> kobe is the build that screams 'zerk everything because hunger isn't a concern'
14:59:36 <elliott> lmao
14:59:37 <Patashu> haha
14:59:38 <elliott> what is it with me
14:59:40 <elliott> and my ghosts today
14:59:49 <Patashu> you probably account for most cdo deaths
14:59:51 <Patashu> by this point
15:00:37 <elliott> oh no
15:00:41 <elliott> you don't
15:02:04 <elliott> when did orcs become so boring
15:02:11 <elliott> WE MEET AGAIN
15:02:41 <elliott> erm
15:02:42 <elliott> sanity check
15:02:43 <elliott> am i doing ok
15:03:33 <Patashu> wights don't do much damage
15:03:35 <Patashu> focus the ghost, sure
15:03:50 <elliott> its just
15:03:50 <elliott> that
15:03:53 <Patashu> well
15:03:54 <elliott> im losing hp a lot
15:03:56 <Patashu> you can't unzerk out of a zerk
15:04:02 <elliott> no, but i can whack the wight
15:04:02 <Patashu> oh, I see what you mean
15:04:02 <elliott> then run
15:04:03 <monqy> hey hwats up
15:04:03 <Patashu> yeah, focus the wight
15:04:05 <Patashu> right
15:04:06 <Patashu> nm
15:04:07 <elliott> monqy: funne
15:04:10 <Patashu> elliott about to die probably
15:04:15 <elliott> monqy: helpe
15:04:17 <monqy> oh no
15:04:23 <monqy> this looks
15:04:23 <monqy> bad
15:04:28 <elliott> it looked worse before with wossname
15:04:30 <elliott> and her curare
15:04:33 <elliott> and also the hill orc
15:04:34 <elliott> and troll
15:04:35 <elliott> together
15:04:36 <elliott> with yaks
15:05:04 <elliott> so ummmm
15:05:04 <elliott> help
15:05:10 <elliott> ok i can get past the wight in like one, two turns
15:05:14 <elliott> but phyphor is pretty damn fast
15:05:20 <elliott> eeeh
15:05:26 <elliott> if i get past the wight
15:05:27 <elliott> then blink
15:05:31 <elliott> Patashu: sound good?
15:05:37 <elliott> then immediately cure
15:05:41 <elliott> and try and get upstairs
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15:06:08 <Patashu> something like that yeah
15:06:13 <elliott> that's not very reassuring
15:06:17 <elliott> monqy: does that plan sound reasonable
15:06:17 <Patashu> and yeah you probably should have started on the wight earlier
15:06:20 <Patashu> sorry, didn't realize how tough the ghost was
15:06:42 <elliott> this is the second time i've died to phyphor today
15:06:45 <Patashu> what was it a ghost of?
15:06:59 <elliott> troll iirc
15:07:02 <elliott> with haste or something
15:07:06 <Patashu> haha
15:07:15 <monqy> i think it was sswiftness
15:07:18 <monqy> a bit different from haste
15:07:27 <elliott> monqy: it was sonja btw
15:07:28 <elliott> wossname, that is
15:07:31 <elliott> she was really horrid
15:08:07 <elliott> i blame Patashu for making me get that sabre
15:08:24 <Patashu> elliott's sonja was more fun than usual
15:08:28 <Patashu> she had a wand of draining
15:08:28 <Patashu> :D
15:08:37 <monqy> disto weapon?
15:10:34 <elliott> Patashu: yeah, disto weapon?!?!
15:10:36 <elliott> idont actually know what that means
15:12:47 <elliott> monqy: is there a NaCl
15:13:52 <monqy> no
15:13:59 <monqy> there's nagl
15:14:18 <elliott> not good enough
15:14:18 <Patashu> no, she had venom this game
15:14:22 <monqy> tsk
15:14:23 <Patashu> (it's 50% disto 50% venom I think)
15:14:27 <Patashu> also, NaCj
15:14:31 <Patashu> is closer
15:14:49 <monqy> nagl sounds like nacl there's just a bit of voicing off
15:14:55 <monqy> plus NaGl looks kind of like NaCl
15:15:07 <monqy> though NaCj looks kind of like NaCl too
15:17:34 <elliott> monqy: look at my inv
15:17:35 <elliott> im
15:17:37 <elliott> broaddcasting it
15:19:47 <elliott> monqy: are you braodcatste
15:19:49 <monqy> ye
15:20:19 <Patashu> by the way, ?enchant armour strategy:
15:20:24 <elliott> broadcast 2
15:20:24 <Patashu> always enchant your secondary pieces of armour first
15:20:25 <elliott> this is like teletext
15:20:33 <Patashu> since you're less likely to swap them out for something else
15:20:53 <Patashu> also, I see al ot of pretty useful potions there
15:20:57 <Patashu> if you had known the ghost would be that tough
15:21:02 <elliott> well i did
15:21:02 <elliott> i mean
15:21:04 <elliott> i died to it earlier
15:21:12 <Patashu> (hint: if you quaff might and speed, it's like a zerk without the downside of being zerk)
15:21:24 <Patashu> wow
15:21:27 <elliott> i should have just quaffed mutation
15:21:27 <Patashu> you never id'd heal wounds?
15:21:30 <elliott> and turned into a butterfly or something
15:21:33 <elliott> Patashu: lmao
15:21:40 <Patashu> I'm impressed
15:21:45 <elliott> i just had
15:21:49 <elliott> so many crap potions from that tomb
15:21:54 <elliott> and was iding them all at random
15:25:13 <elliott> https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4274 wow this is such al ong topic about words
15:25:16 <elliott> monqy summarise it for me
15:25:28 <elliott> preemptive answer
15:25:30 <elliott> i dont know why im reading it
15:27:13 <Patashu> basically
15:27:17 <monqy> oh no are you reading tavern
15:27:21 <Patashu> when you unwield distortion it's like translocation miscast
15:27:29 <Patashu> in otherwords
15:27:33 <Patashu> it might do up to 43 damage
15:27:36 <Patashu> or banish you to the abyss
15:27:38 <Patashu> or it might do nothing noteworthy
15:27:46 <monqy> it's implemented as a tloc miscast
15:27:50 <Patashu> ye
15:27:51 <monqy> i mean
15:28:02 <monqy> it's implemented as triggering a tloc miscast effect
15:28:04 <Patashu> that's what I meant, yes
15:28:08 <Patashu> 'like' as in 'is'
15:28:47 <elliott> 16:27 <monqy> oh no are you reading tavern
15:28:48 <elliott> is this bade
15:28:54 <monqy> generally
15:28:58 <elliott> Patashu: monqy: it eventually goes on to "lets remove distionrton thing from early game because it hurt and not good"
15:29:04 <elliott> and people going "why not remove sigmund then!!"
15:29:05 <elliott> and
15:29:06 <elliott> im so confuse
15:29:46 <Patashu> people being butthurt about dying in crawl
15:29:49 <Patashu> solution: don't die
15:30:30 <elliott> monqy: whats the absolute baddest of ridiculous species/thing/god combo
15:31:10 <Patashu> muck
15:31:12 <monqy> therre are lots
15:31:20 <monqy> muck and ddak are the most popular
15:31:24 <monqy> mube used to be popular too
15:31:55 <elliott> yeah but even monqy plays muck
15:32:03 <elliott> i want something so stupid and awkward nobody even bothers doing it for laughs
15:32:10 <elliott> just pure crap
15:32:22 <elliott> (so i can make my crawl goal to win that)
15:33:04 <monqy> there are a lot of things people avoid because they're bad in a boring way
15:33:04 <Patashu> probably DDAK
15:33:07 <Patashu> since that's just plain unfun
15:33:13 <Patashu> the problem with a lot of 'bad builds' is
15:33:15 <Patashu> you can reskill out of them
15:33:19 <Patashu> and do what's actually good for the race
15:33:25 <elliott> yeah but
15:33:28 <elliott> that's why i included god in the equation
15:33:33 <monqy> like with ddak and muck if you look at them closely there's something beautiful about how bad they are
15:33:43 <elliott> preferably the god should hate all the most practical ways for your kind to survive
15:33:47 <monqy> with, say, teee, it's just "hey you're a teee"
15:34:02 <monqy> elliott: ddak sort of kind of falls into that
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15:34:11 <elliott> (i am allowing conversions)
15:34:12 <elliott> (in this)
15:34:34 <Patashu> could you, as a muck, abandon xom
15:34:41 <Patashu> would that improve your chance of winning?
15:34:46 <Patashu> or is he even worse after you abandon him
15:35:04 <elliott> cheating
15:36:01 <elliott> monqy: (this was inspired by someone in that thread mentioning spriggan fighter of cheirbecierbcieroioaercbios as a stupid conduct)
15:36:13 <elliott> (but i don't know how bad that actually is)
15:37:48 <Patashu> it wouldn't be too bad
15:37:52 <Patashu> assuming you're going a stabby build
15:37:57 <Patashu> since iirc chei doesn't make your stealth checks worse
15:38:25 <elliott> monqy: what about a muck switched to idk one of the annoying righteous gods
15:38:31 <elliott> i guess nothing beats xom really
15:38:37 <Patashu> mummies can't worship the good gods
15:38:39 <Patashu> since they're undead
15:39:05 <elliott> oh
15:39:06 <elliott> lame
15:39:22 <elliott> what if you start as something else then polymorph into a mummy post-conversion
15:40:55 <monqy> can't polymorph to undead
15:41:03 <monqy> anywayt im gone
15:41:19 <elliott> bye
15:41:20 <elliott> @time monqy
15:41:22 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue Apr 24 08:41:20 2012
15:41:57 <Patashu> you can't polymorph in crawl
15:42:01 <Patashu> but you can cast 'form' spells
15:42:07 <Patashu> if you worship a good god and deliberately cast necromutation
15:42:15 <Patashu> the good god excommunicates you
15:43:01 <elliott> huh? ive seen wands of poylmrohp
15:43:30 <Patashu> if you cast polymorph other on a monster
15:43:33 <Patashu> it does what you expect
15:43:38 <Patashu> if a monster casts polymorph other on YOU
15:43:41 <Patashu> you get a 90% bad mutation 10% good mutation
15:43:54 <Patashu> (so if it happens often enough you get all-the-bad-mutations-all-of-them)
15:44:11 <Patashu> (btw potions of mutation are 50%, and cards of helix are 50% or better)
15:44:47 <elliott> sigh i just want a really bad creature with a god that hates it
15:46:00 <elliott> is that too much to ask
15:46:10 <nortti> `? europe
15:46:19 <HackEgo> Europe is the national anthem of the Republic of Kosovo.
15:50:50 <Patashu> well
15:50:56 <Patashu> if you abandon a god or are excommunicated from it
15:51:02 <Patashu> the god brings down his wrath on you every onw and again
15:51:05 <Patashu> that's close enough right
15:51:55 <elliott> not really!!!
16:00:50 <elliott> i might try og next if i get tired of kobe
16:09:05 <Patashu> you should try mibe or hobe
16:09:27 <Patashu> ogre and troll might be good too, haven't tried them
16:10:11 <elliott> ive heard habe might be good as a beginner
16:10:26 <elliott> 17:10 <elliott> ??mibe
16:10:26 <elliott> 17:10 <Henzell> mibe[1/1]: Press aa to win.
16:10:28 <elliott> my kinda char
16:10:38 <Patashu> you know how I said kobold has -20% max hp?
16:10:41 <Patashu> minotaur has +10% max hp
16:10:44 <elliott> mmmm
16:10:47 <Patashu> so
16:10:50 <Patashu> it's a lot higher
16:10:53 <elliott> i was thinking about just training fighting like shit all the way through though
16:10:57 <elliott> w/ kobe
16:10:59 <elliott> to get that extra hp
16:11:20 <Patashu> fighting doesn't give hp very fast until xl16
16:11:34 <Patashu> (basically, it gives one point per skill level per 8 xls)
16:11:49 <Patashu> going from kobe to mibe or hobe would be just
16:11:50 <Patashu> 'bam'
16:11:52 <Patashu> 'have a lot of hp'
16:12:35 <elliott> yeaaaah but really i love kobe i just wish it had a bit more hp
16:12:40 <elliott> the solution may be just to level it up harder
16:13:17 <elliott> i mean
16:13:29 <elliott> (a) im externally predisposed to liking kobolds more than minotaurs or hill orcs or what the fuck ever
16:13:36 <elliott> as species
16:13:45 <elliott> (b) forgot what this was gonna be
16:17:09 <elliott> http://ompldr.org/vZGh4YQ "You will get decimated by elven ambushes and swallowed whole by carp as you struggle just to trade for weak copper weaponry. But that's what life is like for a Kobold."
16:18:20 <elliott> Oh, there we go, http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2965122/images/1226219247193.gif. (The image in the bay12 forum thread was broken, so I rescued Google's thumbnail.)
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16:31:34 <Gregor> Why did I list #esoteric as a sub-channel of itself ...
16:32:38 <elliott> why not
16:32:39 <elliott> anyway
16:32:45 <elliott> one of those doesn't exist
16:32:50 <elliott> the other one i don't really want in the topic logged forever
16:33:04 -!- elliott has set topic: go to #esoteric-ponies ———Gregor | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/.
16:33:11 <elliott> (there are a bunch of spiders that crawl IRC topics for no apparent reason)
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17:29:16 <yasar> Have you ever tried dd'ing your swap partition and piping it to "strings" lots of interesting things can come up.
17:36:22 <Gregor> I personally like mplayer'ing my HDD.
17:37:08 <yasar> :)
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18:12:07 <oklopol> my record for consequtive minutes of watching numbthreers is 15 minutes
18:12:14 <oklopol> i'm so gonna break it today
18:15:21 <oklopol> "you can't measure an electron without changing it. therefore, if you observe a bank robberist dudde, he will change his pattern." "wooooooow slow down whatnow you know i got like a c in physics dudde? be gentle with my brain"
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18:24:42 <oklopol> whoops i didn't quite manage two minutes
18:33:20 <qfr> consecutive
18:34:45 <oklopol> no i'm changing it
18:35:20 <oklopol> also the math dudde needs to work on a 3sat to find where the bank robbersteins attack nexts.
18:35:24 <oklopol> *next
18:35:47 <Phantom_Hoover> <Gregor> I personally like mplayer'ing my HDD.
18:35:47 <lambdabot> Phantom_Hoover: You have 3 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
18:35:51 <Phantom_Hoover> wat
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18:42:27 <Gregor> Phantom_Hoover: (lesse if I can remember a decent command) mplayer -demuxer rawvideo -rawvideo w=640:h=480:fps=15:format=rgb24 /dev/sda
18:42:37 <Phantom_Hoover> No, that was to unexpected lambdabot.
18:42:57 <Gregor> Oh X-D
18:43:36 <Phantom_Hoover> I remember the mplayer thing, although I didn't try it because I wasn't about to start running commands with /dev/sda in them as root unless my paranoia was assuaged by necessity.
18:44:47 <oklopol> "you know it's considered unsolvable, right?" "well certainly people who've failed to solve it might think that, but we all know, minesweeper consistency is an np pcomplete problem"
18:45:08 <Phantom_Hoover> Like life!
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19:09:25 <nortti> Lumpio-: how is your os project?
19:09:49 <Lumpio-> er
19:09:54 <Lumpio-> Dead and buried since N years ago?
19:11:10 <nortti> weren't you trying to create a bootloader a few days ago?
19:11:20 <Lumpio-> nope
19:11:26 <Lumpio-> I just used GRUB with mine.
19:11:51 <nortti> you mean putkaos
19:12:04 <nortti> +?
19:12:14 <Lumpio-> No, LumpiOS obviously
19:12:27 <fizzie> nortti: pikhq was writing a bootloader the other day.
19:12:31 <Lumpio-> I don't have anything to do with putkaos
19:13:35 <ion> I slept for 17 hours.
19:13:56 <nortti> fizzie: ok. I was probably confusing him to Lumpio- for some reasom
19:14:18 <oklopol> ion: hey i did that a few weeks ago
19:14:27 <oklopol> 18 is my record
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19:14:57 <ion> nice
19:16:45 <oklopol> i like to work the night between sunday and monday so i occasionally sleep quite a bit afterward
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19:22:55 <pikhq_> Yeah, that was me.
19:23:03 <pikhq_> The bootloader works, and I've not done more yet.
19:24:33 <nortti> pikhq_: what kind of os are you making?
19:24:57 <pikhq_> I dunno, I was partly doing a bootloader for the sake of it.
19:25:05 <pikhq_> I guess if I do anything it'll be a Forth, though.
19:26:06 <nortti> "...send back to your phone at
19:26:14 <nortti> "...send back to your phone at the speed of ninjas on jetpacks."
19:27:28 <nortti> pikhq_: by forth do you mean kernel coded in forth or a forth system?
19:28:24 <pikhq_> Forth system.
19:29:46 <nortti> that would be interesting. Singletasking or multitasking
19:30:11 <pikhq_> Probably single-tasking for simplicity.
19:30:56 <olsner> multitasking isn't that hard though, just swap some stacks :)
19:31:27 <pikhq_> olsner: Yes, but it is strictly more effort. :P
19:32:08 <nortti> or you can also do same as I did and use co-operative multitasking. It isn't that hard as you don't have to worry about locks and re
19:32:26 <nortti> +entrant system calls
19:34:18 <nortti> you still have to swap stacĸs though
19:39:15 <cheater> just use pi calculus
19:39:23 <cheater> amirite kmc
19:49:07 <ion> A WebGL invitation to Stream (a Finnish demo party). http://byterapers.com/streamnine/invitation.html
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19:58:16 <Gregor> I love how all the results for the google doodle are always about the google doodle, and only secondarily the person it commemorates.
19:58:27 <Gregor> They should make it search for name -google
20:06:46 <pikhq_> Nice doodle today.
20:07:19 <coppro> oh my
20:07:30 <coppro> I love that it actually unzips
20:08:01 <oklopol> it's google, obviously it unzips.
20:09:58 <nortti> it unzips?
20:10:45 <oklopol> hurr durr
20:11:02 <oklopol> why would you have a zipper that doesn't work
20:48:10 <Phantom_Hoover> pikhq_, except it's commemorating a FUCKING SWEDE
20:50:17 <ais523> swedes exist, right?
20:50:28 <ais523> I keep forgetting which countries exist in this channel and which ones don't
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21:13:55 <oklopol> olsner is swede-ish
21:15:41 <Phantom_Hoover> yes but i think he was probably kidnapped at birth
21:17:56 <nortti> where does olsner live currently
21:18:04 <Phantom_Hoover> Sweden.
21:18:11 <Phantom_Hoover> Having been kidnapped at birth by Swedes.
21:25:31 <nortti> what makes you think so?
21:27:43 <olsner> from where was I kidnapped?
21:28:27 <Phantom_Hoover> I don't know, there are lots of places less terrible than Sweden.
21:28:36 <Phantom_Hoover> The complement of Sweden, more or less.
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21:44:52 <nortti> " It's the process of taking barren, uninhabitable terrain and re-engineering it to support life. You know, like Detroit, but in reverse."
21:47:28 <Phantom_Hoover> Sweden???
21:51:37 <Phantom_Hoover> What the shit Google and James Cameron are starting an asteroid mining company FINALLY IT IS THE FUTURE AGAIN
21:53:15 <nortti> "So it turns out the real danger of dressing androgynously is the possibility of your kid growing up to get elected president of the U.S. four times in a row."
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22:10:41 <nortti> http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2011/03/09/the-paradox-of-choice/
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22:19:15 <pikhq_> Phantom_Hoover: Yup.
22:19:31 <Phantom_Hoover> WHEN WILL JETPACKS
22:19:49 <olsner> JETPACKS TODAY
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23:12:23 <itidus20> jetpacks on special
23:12:51 <itidus20> homeless bum laments lack of jetpack
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