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00:01:03 <elliott> Why is this worm encased in lava?
00:01:07 <elliott> Mysteries of the universe.
00:04:34 <kmc> that's a good juxtaposition
00:04:37 <kmc> coqhack
00:06:17 <elliott> Oops, I'm (almost) dead.
00:06:20 <elliott> kmc: Coqrawl, actually.
00:07:58 <elliott> monqy: Guess who keeps dying. :(
00:08:16 <monqy> is it you
00:08:21 <elliott> *sigh*
00:08:25 <elliott> That monqy. Always with the science.
00:08:26 <monqy> i;l watch
00:08:34 <elliott> You must be bored.
00:09:37 <elliott> uhhhhh
00:09:56 <elliott> I wonder what's going on here.
00:09:58 <monqy> that vault?
00:09:59 <shachaf> honqy
00:10:08 <elliott> monqy: yeah
00:18:12 <elliott> hmm
00:18:14 <elliott> I should put armour on
00:18:21 <elliott> since i'm wearing chain mail
00:20:50 <elliott> that runed staff is
00:20:51 <elliott> ...
00:20:52 <elliott> monqy it's
00:20:56 <elliott> <bold>gnarly</bold>
00:22:07 <elliott> monqy: oh ziggurats are really scary right
00:22:29 <monqy> uhh
00:22:30 <monqy> "yeah"
00:22:36 <elliott> what does the quote mean
00:22:51 <monqy> the first few floors aren't that bad but if you're paying the entry fee you're aiming a bit deeper than that
00:22:53 <elliott> oh there's an entry fee? never mind then
00:23:10 <shachaf> how mchu is the tenryf ee/
00:23:16 <shachaf> HOW MUCH IS THE ENTRY FEE
00:23:18 <monqy> it varies
00:23:57 <elliott> _Your potion of coagulated blood rots away.
00:23:58 <elliott> ew
00:24:41 <elliott> maybe i should put fightingon sometime
00:24:45 <elliott> eh i'll do it with uc reaches 10
00:29:25 <elliott> monqy: btw how much more effective is minor destruction compared to a dart
00:30:51 <elliott> urgh orc warriors always hit harder than i expect them to
00:31:42 <elliott> euhh
00:31:47 <elliott> i wish i had more scrolls of id earlier
00:33:00 <monqy> i prrefer minor destruction over darts
00:33:13 <monqy> oh hey looks like you're in a jam
00:33:19 <elliott> im covered in jam
00:33:33 <elliott> i can probably get away w/ scroll of tele and stairs if i can solve the immediate problem of having no hp
00:33:46 <elliott> the plans i can think of are
00:33:49 <monqy> good luck not dying next turn
00:33:51 <elliott> (a) quaff a random potion
00:34:03 <elliott> (b) quaff a potion of might and hope i can wack the remaining health out of the orc warrior before they attack me
00:34:16 <elliott> (c) read the unid'd scroll (but i think i already know blink)
00:34:16 <monqy> the 5stack is probably curing if you havent ided it already, but good luck outhealing the orc warrior
00:34:23 <elliott> how can i tell what scrolls i know
00:34:25 <monqy> you can check \ to see
00:34:33 <elliott> yeah i know blinking
00:34:39 <elliott> ok so i can either quaff might or curing
00:34:51 <elliott> well, at least i'd have died either way
00:35:39 <elliott> time to get into another jam over the course of a few thousand turns
00:37:00 <elliott> also wow the ghoul hunger system is so much less annoying than the regular one
00:38:48 <elliott> wow jessica is
00:38:50 <elliott> weak
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00:39:46 <elliott> monqy: is levitation useful for getting away from things
00:40:16 <monqy> if you want to get away from them by hovering ovver water or lava
00:40:23 <monqy> otherwise, no
00:41:23 <elliott> hmmm
00:41:32 <monqy> who's that, sigmund?
00:41:35 <elliott> yeah
00:41:45 <elliott> i can either whack him (my unarmed combat skill is pretty good), or quaff a random potion
00:41:50 <elliott> or back up (if i do that i will probably die)
00:41:56 <elliott> also he's ^ from me
00:42:00 <monqy> yeah he has reaching so
00:42:33 <elliott> wow that actually worked
00:42:35 <elliott> uhhhh
00:42:43 <elliott> did i just gain hp there
00:42:43 <monqy> fsvo actually, worked
00:42:50 <monqy> or am i behind
00:43:03 <monqy> afaict you missed sigmund and lost hp
00:43:15 <elliott> oh i thought i gained hp
00:43:21 <elliott> i lost hp there
00:43:28 <shachaf> monqy: hi
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00:43:34 <elliott> wow he had a scythe of dragon slaying
00:43:36 <elliott> that's heavy duty!!!
00:43:38 <monqy> shachaf: hello?
00:43:40 <elliott> slays dragons and stuff
00:43:40 <shachaf> BYE ELLISONCH
00:43:43 <monqy> elliott: scythes are bad
00:43:49 <elliott> monqy: not if they slay dragons!!!
00:43:50 <shachaf> Finally I can tabcomplete uninterrupted
00:44:04 <monqy> 17:43:28 < shachaf> monqy: hi
00:44:06 <shachaf> elliott: You're the only person with a nick starting with 'e' in here.
00:44:08 <monqy> shachaf: did you have something to say
00:44:13 <monqy> where's egobot
00:44:14 <shachaf> monqy: yes
00:44:23 <shachaf> monqy: i had to say "hi"
00:44:25 <monqy> oh
00:44:27 <shachaf> did i say it yet/
00:44:33 <monqy> no
00:44:54 <shachaf> oopse
00:44:58 <shachaf> monqy: hi
00:45:05 <shachaf> "hi"
00:45:35 <elliott> oops
00:46:26 <shachaf> elliott: did youe die
00:46:28 <elliott> no
00:46:30 <elliott> i got teleportitis
00:46:33 <shachaf> "rip elliott"
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00:46:46 <shachaf> soon ripe. soon rotten. soon gone. but not forgotten.
00:46:50 <monqy> shachafe you kiled him
00:46:57 <shachaf> monqy: oh no
00:47:03 <monqy> killed him with your
00:47:03 <shachaf> "rip elliott" II
00:47:03 <monqy> words
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00:54:46 <shachaf> monqy: hlepe elliott put me on /ignore
00:54:54 <shachaf> sorry elliott :'(
00:55:53 <monqy> :(
00:57:45 <kmc> shachaf: hecked
00:58:08 <shachaf> Headlines for tomorrow's newspaper.
00:58:11 <shachaf> SHACHAF: HECKED
00:58:19 <shachaf> your aim cud be next
01:00:03 <kmc> Your Aim could Be next
01:00:20 <shachaf> I don't like elliott's Even very much.
01:00:25 <shachaf> Does that make me wrong?
01:01:18 <shachaf> Oh, wait.
01:01:20 <shachaf> Maybe I'm wrong.
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02:53:36 <elliott> @time monqy
02:53:38 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Mon Apr 30 19:53:37 2012
02:53:52 <elliott> ah, the monkey's hour of hibernation
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02:54:53 <quintopia> how do i set up my time zone with lb?
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03:09:17 <shubshub> Hey
03:09:26 <shubshub> ^whois
03:09:26 <fungot> You is.
03:09:29 <shubshub> lol
03:09:39 <shubshub> ^who
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03:10:09 <shubshub> !bf_txtgen hi
03:10:26 <shubshub> @bots
03:10:26 <lambdabot> :)
03:10:32 <shubshub> ^bot
03:10:38 <shubshub> ^bots
03:10:42 <PiRSquared17> fungot: hi
03:10:43 <fungot> PiRSquared17: eos end of stack ( xd). a common fnord medication to remove the fnord...
03:10:45 <shubshub> ^list
03:10:54 <shubshub> ^help
03:10:54 <fungot> ^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
03:11:07 <shubshub> `bots
03:11:10 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bots: not found
03:11:14 <shubshub> `help
03:11:16 <HackEgo> Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`<command>", or "`run <command>" for full shell commands. "`fetch <URL>" downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert <rev>" can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/
03:11:53 <shubshub> `run set hi=me & echo %hi&
03:11:55 <HackEgo> ​%hi
03:12:13 <shubshub> `run set hi=me & echo %hi%
03:12:16 <HackEgo> ​%hi%
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03:12:34 <shubshub> `run echo $hi
03:12:37 <HackEgo> No output.
03:12:53 <shubshub> `run set hi=me echo $hi
03:12:55 <HackEgo> No output.
03:13:18 <shubshub> `run set hi=me & echo $hi
03:13:21 <HackEgo> No output.
03:13:36 <shubshub> `run print "hi"
03:13:40 <HackEgo> Warning: unknown mime-type for "hi" -- using "application/octet-stream" \ Error: no such file "hi"
03:13:55 <shubshub> `run ruby
03:13:58 <HackEgo> bash: ruby: command not found
03:14:19 <shubshub> `run echo $name
03:14:21 <HackEgo> No output.
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03:14:50 <elliott> again, stop fucking with the bots like that or you'll get on their ignore list.
03:15:02 <elliott> HackEgo and fungot both respond to private messages
03:15:02 <fungot> elliott: i find postfix-colon keywords significantly harder to read.... and the stack overflow.
03:15:21 <elliott> quintopia: you don't have to
03:15:22 <elliott> @time quintopia
03:15:24 <lambdabot> Local time for quintopia is Mon Apr 30 23:15:23 2012
03:15:54 <quintopia> ehow does it knoooooow
03:16:40 <elliott> stalking
03:16:53 <quintopia> is my time zone hardcoded in there?
03:17:04 <elliott> yes it's part of the lambdabot source code
03:17:06 <PiRSquared17> quintopia: CTCP time requests probably
03:17:12 <elliott> no
03:17:13 <elliott> hardcoded
03:17:16 <elliott> into lambdabot's source code
03:17:17 <PiRSquared17> omg
03:17:28 <quintopia> oh
03:17:31 <quintopia> i did get one of those
03:17:32 <PiRSquared17> that's creepy
03:17:32 <quintopia> lol
03:17:38 <elliott> yeah it does that but
03:17:39 <elliott> it ignores the result
03:17:43 <elliott> and just uses the hardcoded timezone instead
03:24:35 <PiRSquared17> ^ lies
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03:26:34 <PiRSquared17> @time test1_2_3
03:26:35 <lambdabot> Local time for test1_2_3 is I just set some random TIME result
03:27:37 <elliott> no, it predicted you were going to do that
03:27:42 <elliott> it's too smart for you
03:27:46 <elliott> can't fool lambdabot
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03:48:44 <kmc> sigh, a 200 line C library is not "trivial"
03:48:52 <kmc> it might be simple or straightforward
03:51:16 <pikhq_> Well, it could actually be trivial.
03:51:26 <pikhq_> Though that's unlikely.
03:51:44 * pikhq_ imagines a 180 line switch statement that does not-much
03:51:44 <kmc> maybe if it's all obviously dead code
03:51:55 <kmc> (i mean 200 source lines, not incl comments and whitespace)
03:51:55 <elliott> "trivial" just means "easy" now
03:52:05 <kmc> elliott: or "possible"
03:52:06 <elliott> evidence: people say "extremely trivial"
03:52:10 <kmc> but i rage against this usage
03:52:11 <pikhq_> Like, effectively a lookup table.
03:52:11 <kmc> i rage so hard
03:52:14 <elliott> shrug
03:52:15 <elliott> it's too late
03:52:24 <pikhq_> I'd say even a 200 line lookup table is probably actually trivial.
03:52:28 <elliott> i rage against "raging so hard" against something :p
03:52:33 <kmc> pikhq_: I'm not sure I would even call that trivial
03:52:33 <elliott> *rage so hard
03:52:45 <kmc> to me "trivial" means not only simple and straightforward, but so simple there is almost nothing to say about it
03:53:05 <kmc> the 200 line lookup table / switch statement is probably not devoid of implementation details
03:53:17 <kmc> anyway there's no absolute cutoff
03:54:43 <kmc> but I'm extremely skeptical of a claim that any 200 lines of C is trivial
03:56:26 <kmc> the particular code I'm talking about is signal-aware multiplatform event-based UNIX IO code
03:56:44 <pikhq_> I... That seems quite nontrivial.
03:56:50 <pikhq_> I'd have to think about it!
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05:13:45 <shubshub> ^help
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05:13:45 <fungot> ^<lang> <code>; ^def <command> <lang> <code>; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool
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05:43:47 <shubshub> I need help
05:59:57 <Madoka-Kaname> Brainfuck and underload. Nice, ne
06:01:16 <Madoka-Kaname> ^ul ((LOOK AROUND YOU )S:^):^
06:02:03 <pikhq_> Good series.
06:02:16 <shubshub> I need help
06:02:25 <Madoka-Kaname> ^ul (*)(~(*)*:S~(:)S:^):^
06:02:25 <fungot> **:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************:** ...too much output!
06:02:32 <Madoka-Kaname> ^ul (*):S(~(*)*:S~(:)S:^):^
06:02:32 <shubshub> what variable does egobot use when doing userinterps
06:02:32 <fungot> ***:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************:* ...too much output!
06:02:39 <Madoka-Kaname> Umm?
06:02:40 <Madoka-Kaname> Oh
06:02:50 <shubshub> ?
06:03:02 <Madoka-Kaname> ^ul (*)(~:(:)*S(*)*~:^):^
06:03:02 <fungot> *:**:***:****:*****:******:*******:********:*********:**********:***********:************:*************:**************:***************:****************:*****************:******************:*******************:********************:*********************:**********************:***********************:************************: ...too much output!
06:03:41 <shubshub> well
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06:13:28 <Sgeo> Wormsong 2011 sucks
06:13:28 <Madoka-Kaname> ^ul (~:(:)*S(*)*~:^)::^
06:13:28 <fungot> ~:(:)*S(*)*~:^:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^**:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^***:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^****:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*****:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^******:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*******:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^**********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^***********:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^************:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^*************:~:(:)*S(*)*~:^********* ...too much output!
06:13:29 <Sgeo> :(
06:13:32 * Madoka-Kaname shot
06:14:47 <Sgeo> ^def blah
06:14:48 <fungot> Usage: ^def <command> <lang> <code>
06:15:03 <Sgeo> ^def inc bf ,[+.,]
06:15:04 <fungot> Defined.
06:15:07 <Sgeo> ^inc abc
06:15:07 <fungot> bcd
06:15:35 <shubshub> ^inc a
06:15:35 <fungot> b
06:16:04 <Madoka-Kaname> ^def test ul S
06:16:04 <fungot> Defined.
06:16:07 <Madoka-Kaname> ^test test
06:16:07 <fungot> ...out of stack!
06:16:14 <Madoka-Kaname> Does underload not have input?
06:16:24 <elliott> no
06:18:53 <Madoka-Kaname> elliott, can't start out the stack with (:(a)a~*^:(b)a~*^:(c)a~*^(d)a~*^) or something?
06:18:58 <elliott> sure
06:19:03 <elliott> that's not input though :)
06:19:04 <elliott> that's code
06:19:35 <Madoka-Kaname> ^command argument -> (~:(a)a~*^:(r)a~*^:(g)a~*^:(u)a~*^:(m)a~*^:(e)a~*^:(n)a~*^(t)a~*^)
06:20:06 <Madoka-Kaname> Er, (:(a)a~*^:(r)a~*^:(g)a~*^:(u)a~*^:(m)a~*^:(e)a~*^:(n)a~*^(t)a~*^)
06:20:24 <Madoka-Kaname> Then, you could do ^def echo ul (S)~^
06:20:57 <elliott> right, that's an input scheme
06:24:30 <shubshub> ^def echo ul (S)~^
06:24:30 <fungot> Defined.
06:24:36 <shubshub> ^echo hi
06:24:36 <fungot> ...out of stack!
06:24:39 <shubshub> lol
06:25:57 <Sgeo> elliott, which graphics thingy, if any?
06:26:03 <elliott> ?
06:26:05 <Sgeo> Out of Mayday's, Phoebus, and Ironhand?
06:26:06 <Sgeo> For DF
06:26:12 <elliott> glyphs
06:26:17 <elliott> oh
06:26:17 <elliott> df
06:26:20 <elliott> still glyphs
06:26:22 <elliott> use the defaults
06:26:27 <elliott> all the tilesets are
06:26:28 <elliott> (a) hideous
06:26:29 <elliott> and
06:26:32 <elliott> (b) mess up all the text and make it super hideous
06:26:56 <shubshub> why is egobot not on this channel anymore?
06:27:03 <shubshub> ^prefixes
06:27:03 <fungot> Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?
06:27:10 <shubshub> !help
06:27:20 <Madoka-Kaname> ^show prefixes
06:27:20 <fungot> (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?)S
06:27:31 <Madoka-Kaname> Isn't ">" also a lambdabot prefix?
06:27:40 <shubshub> >help
06:27:56 <Madoka-Kaname> > "Hi. This is Haskell"
06:27:57 <lambdabot> "Hi. This is Haskell"
06:27:59 <shubshub> ^userinterps
06:27:59 <kmc> > let 2+2 = 5 in 2+2
06:28:01 <lambdabot> 5
06:28:13 <shubshub> >"Hello"
06:28:18 <kmc> :t ()
06:28:19 <lambdabot> ()
06:28:24 <shubshub> :hi
06:28:38 <kmc> no :t is a specific command
06:28:40 <shachaf> > 5."this is haskell"
06:28:40 <kmc> so is >
06:28:42 <lambdabot> [5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5]
06:28:44 <shubshub> > let 1+1 = window in 1+1
06:28:45 <lambdabot> Not in scope: `window'
06:28:45 <Madoka-Kaname> > let 2+2 = text "This isn't kindergarten, is it" in 2+2
06:28:46 <lambdabot> This isn't kindergarten, is it
06:28:54 <kmc> Madoka-Kaname++
06:29:23 <kmc> @run 2+2
06:29:24 <lambdabot> 4
06:29:25 <kmc> @type ()
06:29:26 <lambdabot> ()
06:30:13 <Sgeo> elliott, I am currently: Being stupid and reinstalling DF
06:30:18 <elliott> k
06:30:18 <Sgeo> Because I'm lazy
06:30:48 <shubshub> How does sh accept input?
06:31:06 <shubshub> @type /me hi
06:31:07 <lambdabot> parse error on input `/'
06:31:15 <shubshub> @type //me hi
06:31:16 <lambdabot> parse error on input `//'
06:31:27 <Sgeo> shubshub, @type gives the type of a Haskell expression
06:31:30 <Sgeo> @type "Hello"
06:31:31 <lambdabot> [Char]
06:31:37 <Sgeo> @type '!'
06:31:38 <lambdabot> Char
06:31:41 <shubshub> How does SH ACCEPT INPUT?
06:31:53 <kmc> How does sh Accept INPUT
06:32:02 <shubshub> please tell me
06:32:10 <kmc> i have no idea what your question means
06:32:24 <shubshub> how does the sh language accept input
06:32:29 <kmc> you mean unix shell script?
06:32:34 <Sgeo> `run read $blah; echo $blah
06:32:35 <shubshub> yea
06:32:37 <Sgeo> I think?
06:32:39 <kmc> input of what kind?
06:32:46 <kmc> you get command line arguments as variables $1, $2, etc
06:32:51 <kmc> you can read lines from stdin with 'read'
06:32:51 <shubshub> `run echo $blah
06:32:55 <HackEgo> No output.
06:32:57 <kmc> you can also read a book or web page about shell programmin
06:33:08 <HackEgo> No output.
06:33:14 <elliott> or you could just ask all your questions on irc and have people promote the behaviour by answer them
06:33:25 <elliott> even if they give a token recommendation to act differently afterwards
06:33:25 <kmc> yeah
06:33:29 <elliott> *answering
06:35:27 <Sgeo> elliott, I think I was anticipating the reinstall wiping the texture thing I installed. It did not
06:35:34 <shubshub> How does sh accept input from egobot?
06:35:41 <shubshub> which variable is it
06:35:54 <elliott> with the linux version its just in one convenient directory
06:35:55 <elliott> rm -r it and it's done
06:35:57 <elliott> easy
06:36:08 <shubshub> `run rm -r
06:36:11 <HackEgo> rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information.
06:36:33 <shubshub> `run /j #ssoteric
06:36:37 <HackEgo> bash: /j: No such file or directory
06:36:40 <shubshub> lol
06:36:55 <shubshub> `run echo $I
06:36:57 <HackEgo> No output.
06:37:11 <shubshub> How do I make it output the source?
06:37:35 * Sgeo attempts to refrain from profanity and insults
06:38:03 <quintopia> is can ban now?
06:38:04 <shubshub> because im tryimg to add an interp to egobot but i dont
06:38:13 <shubshub> knoknow how to make it read the input
06:38:37 <quintopia> maybe you should not add an interp to egobot then
06:38:50 <shubshub> well I want to
06:38:52 <elliott> you guys realise that he goes away if you don't talk to him right
06:39:06 <shubshub> No I dont
06:39:15 <shubshub> I just get frustrated
06:39:34 <shubshub> Why won't someone just help me?
06:39:41 <quintopia> shubshub: go read up on shell programming and come back when you've written the thing. we can't possibly give you all the info you need here.
06:40:11 <elliott> quintopia: i think this has gone on long enough to adequately demonstrate he's not interested in changing his behaviour
06:40:20 <shubshub> .... *facepalm* Your not understanding what Im saying
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06:40:38 <Sgeo> shubshub, the best help we can give you is to tell you to at least try to learn on your own
06:40:46 <quintopia> elliott: sorry, i wasn't here to see it going on
06:41:25 <Sgeo> Read up on stuff. If you're reading, and have questions about what you're reading, then sure, ask
06:41:33 <Sgeo> But at least get started independently
06:41:42 <elliott> how often does #esoteric get employed in the service of teaching someone how to learn
06:42:32 <shubshub> I just want to know how to get the input ive read everywhere and it wont tell me
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06:45:05 <japh> wrote a javascript dcpu-16 emulator, working on compiler
06:45:12 <japh> assembler*
06:45:56 <qfr> -_-
06:47:20 <quintopia> japh: are you just another perl hacker
06:48:09 <japh> perlmonk at your service
06:49:59 <Sgeo> I just murdered two dwarves in the Object Testing arena
06:50:11 <elliott> just another poison hacker
06:50:49 <quintopia> japh: not http://perl.plover.com/obfuscated/ this guy?
06:52:40 <japh> no i'm this guy http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=140353
06:53:27 <japh> http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=139703
06:54:26 <japh> http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=135354
06:54:35 <japh> i was a nerd before it was cool
06:55:12 <elliott> I was cool before it was a nerd. :(
07:05:24 <itidus21> there there.. theres some possibility you can become cool again
07:08:30 <itidus21> you could vie for gregor-style cool
07:09:03 <itidus21> running the esolang wiki must increase your cool points
07:10:10 * itidus21 slowly realizes that the words wiki, vie, -style, points are all not cool
07:10:37 <itidus21> even the word cool isn't cool, as the simpsons explained
07:13:00 <kmc> itidus21: you're supposed to say "awesome" these days
07:13:03 <kmc> didn't you get the memo
07:13:37 <itidus21> well put.
07:16:56 <kmc> also be sure to refer to any technical problem as "trivial"
07:17:53 <itidus21> =))
07:18:30 <itidus21> uh... regular use of the term non-trivial in non-mathematical contexts
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07:31:21 <itidus21> caption "Gary decided that escaping this gathering of his relatives to catch the game would be non-trivial."
07:32:49 <elliott> @time monqy
07:32:51 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 00:32:50 2012
07:32:58 <elliott> happy 00:32:50
07:33:01 <monqy> im real tired i suhloudl slep
07:33:33 <monqy> but im too busy dragging myself throguh test.fk deespite being perhaps too tired to get anything out of it
07:33:43 <shachaf> monqy: instad ot slep ing try noten seleeping!!
07:33:45 <elliott> test.fk is the best "test.fk + elliott crawl literally the best funjoyment possible"
07:34:43 <shachaf> "whats even bettere than test.fk" "going to sleepe"
07:35:48 <pikhq_> Yup, it's definitely end of the semester.
07:36:09 <pikhq_> I'm procrastinating on nearly everything.
07:36:37 <pikhq_> Especially sleep.
07:37:48 <shachaf> "the only thing you we have to procrastinate on is procrastination itself"
07:38:19 <shachaf> - monqy the grammaphone
07:38:22 <pikhq_> Earlier this week I went to sleep at 6.
07:38:26 <shachaf> grammaphone = phone that gramma talks into
07:38:27 <pikhq_> It was delightful.
07:38:37 <shachaf> pikhq_: "which 6"
07:38:42 <pikhq_> 06:00
07:38:52 <shachaf> "the real one"
07:38:57 <pikhq_> Yes.
07:39:13 <shachaf> pikhq_: When are you coming to visit monqy and me in CA?
07:39:29 <pikhq_> shachaf: If I have sufficient funds to do so?
07:39:57 <pikhq_> I'm afraid that college is nontrivial in cost.
07:40:05 <pikhq_> And CA is nontrivial in distance.
07:40:12 <shachaf> go to college inc alifroniaa
07:40:19 <shachaf> problem = sloved
07:40:57 <pikhq_> I mean, sure, I only need to go through 4 states...
07:41:13 <pikhq_> That's still ~1,000 miles.
07:41:58 <shachaf> anger, hate, misery, apathy, what was the other one?
07:42:08 <shachaf> Is the dark side a state? I don't remember this at all.
07:42:13 <shachaf> The point is that it ends in apathy.
07:42:30 <pikhq_> Amusing driving directions, though.
07:42:54 <pikhq_> "Get on I-70. After 500 miles, keep left at the fork."
07:43:11 <cheater> lol
07:43:13 <shachaf> Aren't you in Colorado or something?
07:43:17 <pikhq_> Yes.
07:43:23 <pikhq_> A mere 1,000 miles away.
07:43:44 <pikhq_> (~1600 kilometers)
07:46:08 <pikhq_> (specifically, Colorado Springs, CO.)
07:46:26 <shachaf> "thats like "double colorado""
07:46:58 <pikhq_> It's also astoundingly conservative.
07:47:23 <shachaf> "colorado springs, the worst garbage collector :'("
07:47:30 <pikhq_> :P
07:48:21 <shachaf> There ought to be a liberal garbage collector that randomly collects any ol' memory.
07:48:38 <elliott> liberal garbage collector: fox news
07:48:42 <elliott> wait
07:48:48 <elliott> a liberal garbage collector would be one that collects liberal garbage
07:48:50 <pikhq_> I suppose I'll eventually end up moving to CA, though. Or at an absolute minimum Denver...
07:48:53 <elliott> so i guess it's more daily kos
07:49:00 <pikhq_> Living near Fox's viewer base is a bit disturbing.
07:49:29 <shachaf> pikhq_: How did you end up in Colawhatever sSPRIngs, Coalhrwla/>/
07:49:47 <pikhq_> shachaf: I was born here.
07:49:56 <Sgeo> My dad watches Fox News. I pretty much have to listen
07:49:56 <shachaf> Oh.
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07:50:06 <shachaf> So why are you going to college there too?
07:50:12 <shachaf> @remember monqy hello
07:50:13 <lambdabot> It is forever etched in my memory.
07:50:20 <pikhq_> I'm a cheap bastard.
07:50:41 <shubshub> @remember shubshub
07:50:41 <lambdabot> Incorrect arguments to quote
07:50:46 <elliott> shachaf: Isn't diving great?
07:50:50 <elliott> @forget monqy hello
07:50:50 <lambdabot> No match.
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07:51:01 <shubshub> @remember shubshub !!!Batch
07:51:01 <lambdabot> Done.
07:51:07 <shachaf> elliott: Diving?
07:51:07 <elliott> hi Ngevd, watch me play crawl
07:51:07 <Ngevd> Oh dear
07:51:09 <Ngevd> I just made a Reffit account
07:51:11 <Ngevd> Hello
07:51:15 <Ngevd> s/ff/dd/
07:51:17 <elliott> shachaf: You know, in Crawl.
07:51:20 <elliott> Ngevd: Don't. It's waful.
07:51:21 <elliott> I'm not kidding.
07:51:27 <shachaf> Is that like Digging For Victory?
07:51:27 <Ngevd> TOO LATE
07:51:30 <shachaf> Except just diving?
07:51:33 <Ngevd> Also, I'm using Windows
07:51:36 <shachaf> And for losery instead of victory?
07:51:51 <Ngevd> Wait, I've got Putty
07:51:53 <elliott> shachaf: More or less.
07:52:01 <Ngevd> Which server?
07:52:08 <elliott> crawl.develz.org port 345
07:52:31 <Ngevd> Watching
07:52:45 <elliott> "agen"
07:52:48 <shachaf> crawl.develz? MORE LIKE CRUELLA DE VIL
07:52:51 <shachaf> RIGHT????
07:52:53 <elliott> (you have to q and rewatch)
07:53:51 <shachaf> pikhq_: Money grows on trees in California.
07:54:01 <elliott> i guess that explains y combinator
07:54:17 <shachaf> y money = money (y money)
07:54:24 <shachaf> TWIST: s/e/q/g
07:54:26 <elliott> nobody knows why money
07:54:38 <pikhq_> shachaf: Unless you're a college student, in which case you have net negative income.
07:54:43 <shachaf> if only monqy was here to see my twist :"(
07:54:48 <pikhq_> Or a college graduate...
07:54:54 <elliott> shachaf: why are you making stupid jokes when you could be watching me play crawl
07:55:23 <shachaf> pikhq_: No, it literally grows on trees.
07:55:28 <shachaf> in the form of ORANGES
07:55:33 <shachaf> did you know orange = monqy
07:55:39 <shachaf> s/q/e/g
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07:55:44 <shachaf> orangq = monqy
07:55:50 <shachaf> netacraft ocnfirms it
07:55:51 <pikhq_> Did you know that college costs all the money?
07:56:03 <elliott> currently im running from edmund and two jackals
07:56:05 <elliott> uhh by two i mean
07:56:06 <elliott> a bunch
07:56:07 <shachaf> I did, as a matter of fact. :-(
07:56:15 <elliott> actually currently i'm dead
07:56:23 <shachaf> "how elliott coutns, ep. 1:::::"
07:56:25 <shachaf> "1"
07:56:28 <pikhq_> I was born in the wrong damned country.
07:56:29 <shachaf> "how elliott coutns, ep. a bunch:::::"
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07:56:31 <shachaf> "a bunch"
07:57:13 <pikhq_> Country where people can't even pronounce my name. Bastards.
07:58:16 <shachaf> What's your name?
07:58:25 <pikhq_> Worcester.
07:58:59 <shachaf> good name
07:59:17 <pikhq_> Hard to get more English than a name like that.
07:59:28 <pikhq_> I suppose my first name could be something like "Gareth" or "Nigel" though.
08:00:00 <shachaf> ion: is heh.fi your wbeistee
08:05:55 <itidus21> gareth is one of those names that doesn't have a feminine counterpart
08:07:09 <shubshub> do /msg egobot !!!Batch <put letters here>
08:09:23 <shachaf> pikhq_: Are you in college in the summer? You should come to CA then!
08:09:28 <shachaf> It's the logical thing to do.
08:11:09 <pikhq_> shachaf: Would still need money to go to CA.
08:11:22 <pikhq_> Aside from that factor, though, totally awesome.
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08:11:30 <elliott> shachaf: Are you watching this?
08:12:14 <elliott> lmfao
08:12:26 <elliott> shachaf: You have to see this.
08:13:26 <shachaf> elliott: No, I stopped.
08:13:34 <elliott> But 5 centaurs.
08:13:36 <shachaf> hi centaurs
08:13:45 <shachaf> youe diede
08:16:03 <shachaf> elliott: What a great game!
08:16:09 <shachaf> elliott: Are ou playing SpVM?
08:16:13 <elliott> spas
08:16:25 <shachaf> what dodes' "As'" standa for
08:16:28 <elliott> assassin
08:16:50 <shachaf> What do they do?
08:16:55 <elliott> assassinate
08:17:00 <shachaf> <elliott> assassinate
08:17:02 <shachaf> HA HA
08:17:07 <shachaf> HOW FUNNY
08:17:23 <shachaf> Thanks, latency, for spoiling my humouur
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08:43:09 <pikhq_> Huh.
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08:43:25 <pikhq_> The FDA is legally barred from banning tobacco.
08:43:56 <pikhq_> There is an actual law on the books saying tobacco, and tobacco alone, cannot be banned due to being unsafe.
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08:45:46 <shachaf> (cannot be banned) due to (being unsafe)
08:58:48 <shubshub> ./msg egobot !!!Batch abc
09:01:53 <shubshub> Why isnt egobot in this channel anymore?
09:02:41 <shubshub> @ask fizzie why isnt egobot in this channel anymore?
09:02:41 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
09:03:22 <shubshub> @ask lambdabot hi
09:03:23 <lambdabot> Nice try ;)
09:03:33 <shubshub> @tell lambdabot hi
09:03:33 <lambdabot> Nice try ;)
09:04:31 <fizzie> Don't ask me, it's not my bot.
09:04:31 <lambdabot> fizzie: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
09:04:38 <fizzie> @clear-messages
09:04:39 <lambdabot> Messages cleared.
09:04:58 <shubshub> fizzie yay
09:05:04 <shubshub> oh ok
09:05:09 <shubshub> whose bot is it
09:05:31 <fizzie> Gregor's.
09:05:52 <shubshub> @ask Gregor why isnt egobot in this channel anymore?
09:05:52 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
09:06:40 <shubshub> can I Make my own bot?
09:07:20 <fizzie> It's a free node.
09:07:28 <shubshub> what does that mean
09:07:38 <fizzie> Just punning.
09:07:44 <shubshub> lol
09:07:56 <shubshub> Ill Make My Bot And Call It S-Bot
09:08:51 <shubshub> It Will Be Ablle to Interpret My Own Languages
09:09:55 <nortti> shubshub: your programming language or the languah
09:10:02 <nortti> *language you speak
09:10:13 <shubshub> Programming Languages
09:10:32 <shubshub> Also some other stuff
09:11:19 <shachaf> fizzie: Have you considered the RACE CONDITION involved in using @clear-messages??!!!?!/!?!
09:14:27 <fizzie> shachaf: Now I have.
09:14:28 <shubshub> do /msg egobot !!!Batch hi
09:16:31 <shachaf> /msg egobot !!!Batch hi
09:16:55 <shubshub> one less space
09:17:00 <shubshub> lol
09:17:28 <shachaf> /msg egobot !!!Batchhi
09:18:17 <nortti> shubshub: ?!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
09:18:25 <shubshub> lol
09:18:36 <shubshub> i dont know what the other one is on the end
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09:20:20 <shubshub> WTF
09:20:25 <shubshub> FUNGOT LEFT
09:28:31 <shubshub> nortti it works but not great
09:33:29 <shubshub> fizzie: whens fungot comin back?
09:34:22 <shubshub> Hmmm now which language supports Online Capabolities
09:35:01 <shubshub> Does Underload?
09:44:27 <nortti> shubshub: almost none of the esoteric languages support any kind of networking
09:45:18 <shubshub> :(
09:45:19 <shubshub> Befunge does
09:46:30 <shubshub> BrainFuck++ does I think
09:48:21 <shubshub> can i get a confirm on that?
09:48:31 <shubshub> Does brainfuck++ support networking?
09:49:13 <shubshub> @ask HackEgo hi
09:49:13 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
09:49:21 <shubshub> `run echo hi
09:49:24 <HackEgo> hi
09:49:24 <lambdabot> HackEgo: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
09:49:32 <shubshub> lol
09:49:51 <shubshub> `run echo @karma
09:49:54 <HackEgo> ​@karma
09:50:35 <shubshub> `runecho hi
09:50:36 <shubshub> `echo hi
09:50:37 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: runecho: not found
09:50:52 <HackEgo> hi
09:51:07 <shubshub> `echo @karma
09:51:10 <HackEgo> ​@karma
09:51:23 <shubshub> `echo @karma
09:51:26 <HackEgo> ​@karma
09:51:59 <shubshub> `echo `echo hi
09:52:01 <HackEgo> ​`echo hi
09:52:12 <shubshub> `echo hi
09:52:15 <HackEgo> hi
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09:57:04 <shubshub> LOL!
09:57:12 <shubshub> i crashed lambdabot
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09:57:35 <shubshub> @karma
09:57:39 <lambdabot> You have a karma of -1
09:58:30 <Sgeo> Any PSOX-capable esolang + PSOX supports networking
09:59:29 <shubshub> hmmm?
10:00:01 <Sgeo> http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX
10:00:26 <Sgeo> It's not currently in a usable state. I abandoned it years ago, the copy in SVN is broken, no one supports it
10:00:57 <Sgeo> Don't use it
10:01:01 <shubshub> Why
10:01:33 <shubshub> I "might" be able to make it worm
10:02:03 <shubshub> work*
10:02:21 <shubshub> `'
10:02:24 <HackEgo> ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ': not found
10:02:28 <Sgeo> The support for files is broken
10:02:30 <Sgeo> For one
10:02:37 <Sgeo> And there are no plans whatsoever to fix that
10:02:43 <shubshub> What Language is it written in?
10:02:44 <Sgeo> Networking support should be good though
10:02:52 <Sgeo> Python.
10:03:03 <Sgeo> http://trac.assembla.com/psox/browser/trunk have fun
10:03:05 <shubshub> Ill fix it easy
10:03:15 <Sgeo> It is an easy fix
10:03:25 <Sgeo> I know exactly what needs to be fixed, actually. Just never did it
10:03:32 <shubshub> Then do it
10:03:37 <Sgeo> Ignore the README.txt
10:03:40 <shubshub> make it a working language
10:03:47 <Sgeo> shubshub, it's not a language
10:03:52 <shubshub> Oh
10:03:58 <shubshub> what is it
10:04:28 <Sgeo> It's a thing that goes between a program written in a language and stdio
10:04:38 <shubshub> Oh
10:04:51 <Sgeo> So that if you're running a Brainfuck interpreter under it, the brainfuck code can do things like networking stuff
10:05:04 * shubshub is actually now thinking of making a Networking language now ^_^
10:06:21 <shubshub> Ill call it NetCMD++
10:06:32 <Sgeo> shubshub, problems with PSOX: It's too elaborate and really only good with Brainfuck and similar languages
10:07:01 <shubshub> Ill make this lang in python to give its own networking ^_^
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10:09:42 <shubshub> NetCMD++ I LIKE THAT NAME :D
10:13:44 <shubshub> NetCMD++
10:17:34 <ion> shachaf: yeah
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12:23:17 <Ngevd> Hello, Phantom_Hoover
12:23:30 <Phantom_Hoover> hlo
12:23:48 <Ngevd> How're you?
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16:04:48 <Phantom_Hoover> Ngevd, I am: fine
16:04:52 <Phantom_Hoover> How is your: DF
16:05:54 <Ngevd> Doing well
16:06:08 <Ngevd> Didn't realise how RIDICULOUSLY FAST a good danger room is
16:06:36 <Phantom_Hoover> Really?
16:06:54 <Ngevd> Yep
16:07:02 <Ngevd> Competent to Legendary in seconds
16:07:15 <Phantom_Hoover> Weren't you there when I was using DRs to go from no military to siegebreaking /during the siege/?
16:07:22 <Ngevd> No?
16:07:25 <Ngevd> I was just after that
16:07:52 <Phantom_Hoover> Admittedly those all went awry for various reasons, mainly due to scrimping.
16:08:20 <Ngevd> :/
16:09:07 <Phantom_Hoover> Basically, optimal DRing requires that you first get them up to legendary armour user by not equipping them with shields or weapons, then giving them their weapon until they become legendary in that, then finally giving them a shield and polishing it off with legendary shield user.
16:09:42 <Phantom_Hoover> The armour stage takes ages, but it increases their survivability a hell of a lot.
16:09:48 <Ngevd> Armour first? damn
16:10:18 <Ngevd> Well, that's a single dwarf ruined forever
16:10:56 <Phantom_Hoover> Nah, just remove their shield and weapon in the equipment skills then top off armour.
16:11:18 <Ngevd> Okay!
16:11:31 <Ngevd> I'll do that when I next go on
16:11:58 <Phantom_Hoover> Shield precludes weapon precludes armour, basically; the slower skills will basically grind to a halt.
16:12:39 <Ngevd> That's easy
16:12:40 <Ngevd> :)
16:12:53 <Ngevd> Thanks, mister Danger Room Hoover of Old Edinburgh Town
16:13:10 <Phantom_Hoover> Actually I've only ever lived in the New Town.
16:13:52 <Ngevd> Thanks, mister Danger Room Hoover of New Edinburgh Town
16:14:09 <nortti> Yay. I have succesfully buit busybox and musl using my own package manager
16:14:13 <Phantom_Hoover> Better -_-
16:14:24 <Ngevd> nortti, Yay
16:14:48 <Phantom_Hoover> nortti, you should talk to elliott, he once made a package manager.
16:15:09 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: source based or binary based?
16:15:11 <Phantom_Hoover> It's never used, of course, but who cares.
16:15:41 <Phantom_Hoover> It basically just automated ./configure; make; make install with some additional bells and whistles AFAIK.
16:16:34 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: My package manager supports syncing with repo, installing and uninstalling and has builtin dependecy resolver
16:17:33 <nortti> (source based)
16:18:32 <Phantom_Hoover> It occurs to me that elliott is probably going to yell at me because I described it completely wrongly, but now I totally have the drop on him because if he does he'll be dancing from my puppeteer's strings.
16:22:10 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: did it work with progams that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make?
16:22:23 <Phantom_Hoover> I don't know, ask him?
16:23:45 <nortti> @ask elliott did your package manager work with programs that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make
16:23:46 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:24:35 <nortti> @ask HackEgo `date
16:24:35 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
16:24:46 <nortti> `uname -a
16:24:51 <HackEgo> Linux umlbox 3.0.8-umlbox #2 Sun Nov 13 21:30:28 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
16:24:52 <lambdabot> HackEgo: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them.
16:25:09 <nortti> `echo @messages
16:25:12 <HackEgo> ​@messages
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16:26:36 <nortti> `? nortti
16:26:39 <HackEgo> nortti? ¯\(°_o)/¯
16:26:53 <Phantom_Hoover> lambdabot ignores HE these days.
16:27:05 <nortti> I noticed
16:27:20 <Ngevd> `? Taneb
16:27:23 <HackEgo> Taneb is not actually Ngevd, no matter what you may have heard.
16:27:27 <Ngevd> `? Ngevd
16:27:30 <HackEgo> ​+'.km.pԁ* \ 'ؒ.~(.$ls&y].CEj6)WaN..=ʵ%f.M.bͦeD4m0.&R..L{Noͳ[ʈ.7Kyv.$ppD \ })\0#hG0(T'.E1.cr5t=Z.V|......ߴl!¾.)_ i|IZf%k9$}:Tע\wHZq8 GXV'oF*ضhYL.ijŭB,z_9I
16:27:38 <Gregor> <Phantom_Hoover> lambdabot ignores HE these days. // why? It shouldn't be possible to botloop ...
16:27:38 <lambdabot> Gregor: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
16:27:42 <Gregor> @messages
16:27:42 <lambdabot> shubshub asked 7h 21m 46s ago: why isnt egobot in this channel anymore?
16:27:50 <Gregor> Because fail.
16:28:07 <nortti> Ngevd: I think it is trying to say that you are random
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16:28:33 <nortti> `? pikhq
16:28:33 <Phantom_Hoover> @where fizzie
16:28:33 <lambdabot> I know nothing about fizzie.
16:28:36 <HackEgo> pikhq? ¯\(°_o)/¯
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16:28:39 <Phantom_Hoover> @where oklopol
16:28:39 <lambdabot> I know nothing about oklopol.
16:28:46 <Phantom_Hoover> That one.
16:29:02 <ion> If you need to add specific ignores to bots to prevent bot loops, YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG. Following the RFC properly, bot loops can simply never happen.
16:29:16 <Phantom_Hoover> ???
16:29:21 <Phantom_Hoover> Which RFC?
16:29:23 <ais523> ion: but everyone makes bots reply in privmsg rather than notice, partly due to mirc not following the standards, as usual
16:29:34 <Phantom_Hoover> Oh.
16:29:35 <Gregor> Mostly because notice looks fucking terrible in every client.
16:29:46 <Gregor> Oh god no.
16:29:51 <Gregor> This is not acceptable.
16:29:52 <ion> ais523: Yep, following the RFC makes mIRC users use more effort to crying than it would take to uncheck the “GIVE ME AN ELECTRIC SHOCK WHENEVER BOTS SPEAK” checkbox. :-)
16:29:56 <Phantom_Hoover> Eurgh.
16:30:25 <Gregor> Find me ONE client in which this doesn't look completely fucking awful, ion. Seriously, one client.
16:30:26 <ion> It’s also annoying when bot messages look like human discussion, so you can’t skip them as easily.
16:30:41 <ion> I’ve been using Irssi and WeeChat and they look fine in them.
16:30:58 <nortti> ion: it looks terrible in irssi
16:31:10 <Phantom_Hoover> Note that the left column is now crazy wide.
16:31:27 <Gregor> You make the left column crazy wide anyway, Phantom_Hoover ;)
16:31:29 <nortti> I have no left colum :p
16:31:36 <Phantom_Hoover> You are bad.
16:31:58 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: why?
16:32:32 <Phantom_Hoover> Because the messages should all be left-aligned to the same place.
16:32:39 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: why
16:33:23 <Gregor> ion: Anyway, I avoid botloops with Unicode, which works great and looks great in virtually all clients.
16:33:25 <Phantom_Hoover> Because they form one continuous record of text; they shouldn't be jumbled up by additional information.
16:33:32 <Gregor> ion: And you will complain about for some reason or another.
16:37:35 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: I use length on nick to quickly differentiate between nicks
16:38:13 <nortti> *of
16:38:16 <Gregor> I use grammar, punctuation and spelling to do the same.
16:38:24 <Phantom_Hoover> You realise that you can still do that if it's centre-aligned.
16:39:37 <nortti> Phantom_Hoover: well actually I just look at the text and if indentation changes I know that it is another nicl
16:39:44 <nortti> *nick
16:40:38 <Phantom_Hoover> Meanwhile I look at the text and get a rough idea of the nick from how long it is.
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16:55:46 <Ngevd> Sgeo, update?
16:57:02 <Sgeo> Yes
16:57:37 <Ngevd> Do the update thing!
17:05:13 <Sgeo> Wasn't it a while ago though?
17:05:39 <Sgeo> Or not
17:05:59 <Sgeo> Phantom_Hoover, if you haven't seen update, update etc.
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18:43:50 <elliott> `echo test
18:43:50 <lambdabot> elliott: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
18:43:52 <HackEgo> test
18:44:07 <elliott> 19:44 <lambdabot> nortti asked 2h 20m 8s ago: did your package manager work with programs that want to be compiled by make defconfig; make
18:44:11 <elliott> @ask nortti What package manager?
18:44:11 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
18:44:37 <elliott> 16:26:53: <Phantom_Hoover> lambdabot ignores HE these days.
18:44:44 <elliott> @tell Phantom_Hoover False.
18:44:44 <lambdabot> Consider it noted.
18:45:04 <elliott> 16:29:35: <Gregor> Mostly because notice looks fucking terrible in every client.
18:45:05 <elliott> ++
18:45:10 <elliott> ion: They're hideous in every client, not just mIRC.
18:46:17 <ais523> elliott: I brought up mIRC as an example, because not just is it hideous, it also causes a ping
18:46:19 <Gregor> To be fair, user-to-user notices look fine, it's just channel notices that look awful. But it's the fact that user notices look fine that forces channel notices to look awful, so yeah.
18:46:26 <ais523> that is, channel notices ping all mIRC users in them
18:46:45 <elliott> anyway, preventing botloops is evil
18:46:50 <elliott> the RFC is evil for trying to prevent them
18:46:58 <elliott> and Gregor needs to make HackEgo say @messages
18:48:06 <Gregor> lol
18:48:18 <ais523> elliott: does it add invisible characters if someone else tries?
18:48:23 <ais523> `echo @messages
18:48:24 <elliott> Yes.
18:48:26 <HackEgo> ​@messages
18:48:28 <elliott> HackEgo is horrible.
18:48:33 <elliott> Gregor: No, seriously; HackEgo has lambdabot messages.
18:48:38 <elliott> lambdabot will keep pinging it every now and then if you don't.
18:48:55 <Gregor> Good for lambdabot?
18:49:03 <ion> helliiot. I was feeling crawly, so i started a game at CDO. (I didn’t continue the old game at CAO yet since i felt like trying a naga since they apparently have a constricting ability nowadays.)
18:49:27 <elliott> I'll watch.
18:49:30 <elliott> Hey, monqy is playing.
18:49:37 <elliott> Oh, idle for four minutes.
18:49:41 <elliott> Wow, CDO is packed today.
18:50:03 <monqy> im eating
18:50:22 <elliott> ion: Spiders!
18:50:23 <elliott> Spiders are great.
18:50:27 <elliott> You should go to the spiders.
18:50:29 <elliott> @time monqy
18:50:30 <lambdabot> Local time for monqy is Tue May 1 11:50:29 2012
18:50:30 <ion> The Spider Nest didn’t exist either when i played the last time. Let’s see if i die.
18:50:33 <elliott> Happy 11:50:29.
18:50:50 <ais523> elliott: that's a rather belated happy
18:50:50 <elliott> ion: You have lots of HP. :(
18:50:58 <elliott> ais523: It's for California.
18:51:10 <ais523> (on a related note, I get vaguely freaked out whenever I look at the clock and see it's 5:23)
18:51:15 <elliott> ion: Are you using bigterm?
18:51:18 <elliott> Your messages keep overlapping.
18:51:20 <ais523> elliott: I mean you didn't say that in the same second as lambdabot's response
18:51:23 <monqy> elliott: hit r
18:51:28 <elliott> Ew, he is.
18:51:34 <elliott> No, I don't want to resize my terminal.
18:51:40 <elliott> I want ion to 80x24 instead.
18:51:42 <ion> elliott: Hit r to resize your terminal.
18:51:50 <elliott> ion: try hand of trog???
18:51:53 <elliott> or something
18:51:55 <monqy> hes too berk
18:51:57 <elliott> oh
18:51:59 <ais523> elliott: hand of trog doesn't resize terminals
18:52:07 <elliott> ais523: maybe not for you
18:52:16 <elliott> ion: anyway, pls use 80x24 :(
18:52:29 <elliott> monqy: thanks for r though that's useful (for knowing when to yell at people)
18:52:33 <ion> elliott: Why?
18:52:52 <elliott> monqy: please explain to ion about politeness and morals and civilised decency
18:52:56 <monqy> elliott: you can also see on the games list if a termsize is bigger than yours (itle be red)
18:53:04 <elliott> yeah i know that part but "so much worke"
18:53:05 <monqy> ion: ask ##crawl about hugeterm
18:53:25 <ais523> <Henzell> hugeterm[1/4]: Any terminal size greater than 80x24 makes your games harder to watch for people using the standard size, which also means that all future viewings of your recorded games will be harder to watch. With ttyrecs specifically, larger terms mean both a scrambled view and a shorter playback time.
18:53:37 <elliott> also its ugly
18:53:45 <ais523> nethack 4 does not have this problem!
18:53:53 <ais523> (and wouldn't even if watching were implemented!)
18:54:02 <elliott> 19:53 <Henzell> hugeterm[2/4]: Don't be that guy.
18:54:05 <elliott> ion is being that guy
18:54:19 <elliott> except i guess your terminal has to be even bigger than ion's to qualify for "thatguyness"
18:54:22 <ion> Let’s try a kynäniska fighter. I suppose that translates to English rather well. A pencil neck.
18:54:22 <elliott> but still
18:54:26 <elliott> minor sins are sins; why is ion an octopus
18:54:28 <monqy> elliott i got eustachio the giant eyeball
18:54:33 <elliott> monqy: did you die to it
18:54:36 <monqy> no
18:54:38 <elliott> monqy: come onnnnn
18:54:48 <monqy> polying uniques to giant eyeballs means they can't cast
18:54:50 <elliott> ugh how can i decide between watching ion and monqy
18:54:53 <monqy> and he hadn't spammed summons
18:54:55 <monqy> watch both
18:54:56 <elliott> monqy: yes but
18:54:59 <elliott> you should have just skipped turns
18:55:13 <elliott> monqy: what are you doing this game
18:55:14 <elliott> oh back to spacebar
18:55:20 <monqy> i can dive if you'd prefer
18:55:26 <elliott> "im fine with anythinge"
18:56:44 <elliott> ion: have you seen monqy's spacebar play
18:57:05 <ion> no
18:57:09 <elliott> dude
18:57:10 <ion> What’s monqy’s spacebar play?
18:57:15 <elliott> connect to squarelos now
18:57:29 <monqy> it's not as impressive as autorobin or xw or cashybrid or any of the other bots really
18:57:33 <elliott> actually he's not going as fast as usual right now but "only a matter of time"
18:57:39 <elliott> monqy: wait, when did I say it was impressive
18:57:45 <monqy> ok
18:57:50 <ion> Ok, watching.
18:57:58 <elliott> it's not impressive, it's just impressively idiotic
18:58:29 <ion> Is that a lua script you’re using?
18:58:33 <elliott> yes
18:58:40 <elliott> he has autoexplore and an autofight script he wrote both on spcaebar
18:59:07 <elliott> oh no, not a quarterstaff of chaos
18:59:14 <elliott> "crawl final bosse"
18:59:19 <ion> monqy: Do you happen to have a URL to your crawl config? I’m lazy.
18:59:47 <elliott> i think the ##crawl bots can generate those
18:59:58 <ais523> is this CAO or CDO?
19:00:01 <elliott> CDO
19:00:04 <elliott> squarelos
19:00:35 <ais523> elliott: he's squarelos on nethack4.org, too :)
19:00:48 <elliott> I know he is, I watched him play his single NetHack 4 game :p
19:00:49 <ais523> bleh, the bots only do CAO RC files
19:00:57 <ais523> monqy: what did you think of nh4?
19:01:11 <monqy> it was unplayably laggy for me
19:01:14 <elliott> ais523: i quote, "nethack is weird"
19:01:25 <ais523> crawl is weirder
19:01:30 <monqy> nethack is weirder
19:01:31 <elliott> ion: http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/squarelos.rc
19:01:32 <ais523> I bet it's a matter of what you're used to
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19:01:34 <Ngevd> I'm on the wrong OS to play df
19:01:34 <ion> Thanks
19:01:35 <elliott> ais523: http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/squarelos.rc
19:01:39 <Ngevd> And stream it
19:01:45 <Ngevd> In a text-based medium
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19:02:17 <Ngevd> I could theoretically get a webcam-desktop-y thing and figure out my Livestream password
19:02:23 <elliott> we're watching squarelos tho
19:02:40 <elliott> ais523: ion: the actual thing is after "AUTOWHATEVER"
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19:03:06 <monqy> i havent given much effort to it
19:03:15 <monqy> i probably will actually try and make it good over the summer
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19:03:22 <elliott> these comments do a good job of summarising my beliefs
19:03:24 <elliott> and goals
19:03:53 <ais523> I'd have written that comment in lowercase so I wouldn't need the "but in lowercase"
19:04:06 <elliott> i don't think ais523 appreciates the spirit of squarelos
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19:04:48 <ais523> no wonder the square los fork never really caught on, if squarelos is its biggest supporter
19:05:11 <elliott> i think squarelos is in "memorial" of squarelos instead
19:05:15 <monqy> yes
19:05:16 <ais523> # THING
19:05:23 <ion> https://github.com/ion1/crawl-config/compare/master-base...master
19:06:07 <elliott> did monqy die
19:06:10 <monqy> xom confusion
19:06:11 <elliott> i always look away one second beforehand
19:06:14 <monqy> can't quaff curing because mumy
19:06:15 <elliott> thanks, xom
19:06:23 <monqy> maybe i should have jsut stayed still
19:06:26 <monqy> waited it out
19:06:28 <monqy> "nah"
19:06:50 * ais523 is upset at what the Crawl devteam did to mummies
19:07:06 <ais523> the original version of them was a race that was all-around weak but capable of grinding, so that people who liked grinding had something to play
19:07:09 <ais523> then they removed the grinding
19:07:16 <ais523> and now they're just a challenge race
19:07:32 <elliott> that sounds like an improvement to me
19:07:42 <elliott> ais523: please tell monqy to kill all the plants
19:07:49 <elliott> he's being horrible and leaving them
19:08:31 <nortti> pikhq: your bootstrap-linux looks awesome
19:08:31 <lambdabot> nortti: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
19:08:46 <nortti> @messages
19:08:46 <lambdabot> elliott asked 24m 35s ago: What package manager?
19:09:18 <nortti> elliott: I head you wrote a simple package manager
19:09:36 <elliott> Where did you hear that? I mean, I have, sure.
19:09:44 <elliott> But I've written multiple things that could be classified as that.
19:09:47 <elliott> monqy: What are you doing walking around manually?
19:09:50 <elliott> Oh, you're diving.
19:09:53 <ais523> meh, if it can't solve Sudoku, it's insufficiently good at resolving complex dependency issues
19:10:14 <elliott> monqy: I died a lot yesterday. :(
19:10:20 <elliott> I mean, aftery ou passed out.
19:10:22 <elliott> *after you
19:10:56 <elliott> ais523: oh! I was going to ask you
19:11:07 <elliott> ais523: you know the TAEB blog? it's down, and the Wayback Machine doesn't have it
19:11:17 <elliott> do you have a copy (particularly of the Planar post), or can you ask sartak for a copy?
19:11:19 <ais523> elliott: I'm aware of that; however, someone found it
19:11:25 <ais523> I do have a copy of the Planar post
19:11:32 <ais523> minus the images
19:11:33 <elliott> hmm, where's the found version? or is it not anywhere?
19:11:40 <elliott> without the images is a shame
19:11:41 <nortti> elliott: from Phantom_Hoover. How can I link to a single post in a log
19:11:41 <ais523> the blog itself is up elsewhere, also minus the images
19:11:46 <ais523> I think I have the images saved separately, though
19:11:50 <ais523> now I just have to remember where it was
19:11:56 <elliott> nortti: click the space between the name and the time
19:11:58 <elliott> (yes, it's weird)
19:12:00 <elliott> then copy the url
19:12:02 <elliott> needs js
19:12:09 <elliott> ais523: thanks
19:12:16 <ais523> http://taeb-nethack.blogspot.de/
19:12:22 <ais523> thank you, browser history
19:12:50 <elliott> thanks
19:12:52 <elliott> monqy: there you go ^
19:13:01 <elliott> bleh
19:13:04 <elliott> the lack of images is annoying
19:13:13 <ais523> oh, the video links aren't working either, because I deleted my youtube account
19:13:28 <elliott> ais523: could you try to dig up the images? it'd be nice to have a complete copy of that post (because I like it)
19:16:03 <nortti> elliott: I can't click between time and name on android browser or opera mini. Search musl on today's log and you should find it
19:16:09 <ais523> elliott: http://nethack4.org/pastebin/3.tgz
19:16:22 <elliott> ais523: thanks
19:17:58 <elliott> ais523: incomplete
19:18:07 <elliott> it doesn't have tactical-planning.png
19:18:29 <ais523> elliott: that isn't the name of the file
19:18:35 <elliott> or strategic-planning.png
19:18:35 <ais523> in the copy of the images I have
19:18:39 <elliott> well, OK
19:18:43 <elliott> it's the name used in the URL
19:18:44 <ais523> probably those are "tactics.png" and "strategy.png"
19:19:02 <ais523> you'll have to use a bit of imagination to work out which image goes where
19:19:43 <elliott> ais523: that post has no dependencies, right? ISTR a table of cost conversion things that isn't in this post, but I may be misremembering
19:19:51 <nortti> elliott: never mind. I was trying it with txt version codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-05-01#161409nortti
19:20:16 <elliott> Right, inst. That wasn't really a package manager.
19:20:25 <ais523> elliott: that's the only post I made for that blog
19:20:29 <elliott> But you could give it a URL and it would automatically build the program it links to.
19:20:30 <ais523> hmm, inst was a bit like aimake, wasn't it?
19:20:45 <ais523> except it relied on the thing it downloaded already having a build system of its own
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19:21:30 <elliott> ais523: OK, I'm going to upload a version of the post with images to esolangs.org.
19:21:42 <ais523> heh
19:21:47 <ais523> I guess nethack4.org would make more sense
19:21:56 <nortti> elliott: What other software that could be classified as package managers
19:22:14 <elliott> There was that thing I wrote for Kitten that was too underpowered to work.
19:22:30 <nortti> Kitten?
19:24:52 <elliott> A Linux distro I almost wrote but then didn't.
19:24:59 <ais523> elliott: I recommend reading the post immediately before mine, btw, it's great (about the technical issues of knowing when you have a complete frame)
19:25:06 <elliott> ais523: yeah, I remember that one
19:25:13 <ais523> in which sorear found two bugs in BSD
19:26:14 <nortti> elliott: how was your package manager too uderpowered
19:26:36 <elliott> In the same way that cp does not make an adequate package manager.
19:26:55 <nortti> elliott: what features it had
19:26:59 <monqy> was your package manager cp
19:27:02 <elliott> Little.
19:27:04 <elliott> monqy: cp++
19:27:16 <ais523> object-oriented cp?
19:27:42 <monqy> cp with the side effect of incrementing cp
19:28:20 <nortti> cp with huge bloat over standard cp using object oriented paragdim
19:28:35 <ais523> and operator overloading!
19:29:20 <nortti> because everyone just loves that you can't tell what operator really does!
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19:32:00 <nortti> my package manager was for a pretty long time script that printed "Try compiling it yourself. I'l implement this if I feel like it."
19:32:19 <ais523> nortti: why would you even run it?
19:33:23 <nortti> ais523: In case my friends tried to install anything when using my computer
19:33:37 <ais523> nortti: but you didn't tell them your root password, did you?
19:34:08 <nortti> ais523: my system allowed installing to ~/bin
19:34:28 <nortti> ais523: of course I didn't
19:34:50 <ais523> well, most people wouldn't expect package managers to install there
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19:35:21 <nortti> ais523: it was on my system manual (5 lines of text)
19:37:36 <nortti> "you can install programs to ~/bin if you want to"
19:38:10 <ais523> I still don't get how they'd know what command to run
19:38:58 <nortti> ais523: apt-get was symlinked to it. All of my friends use *buntu or linux mint
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19:41:49 <shubshub> !!!Batch abc
19:43:21 <shubshub> !help
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19:46:03 <monqy> is !bypass_ignore a botloop thing
19:46:33 <oerjan> no, it's for bypassing /ignore :P
19:47:23 <monqy> oh that makes more sense
19:50:16 <nortti> "Gasoline makes our cars run and our
19:50:58 <nortti> "Gasoline makes our cars run and our Molotov cocktails burn. And depending on how much you drive, or how much you fight The Man each week, gasoline may very well be one of the biggest expenses you have. "
19:52:36 * oerjan checks whether the wiki has been locked or something :P
19:53:31 <nortti> oerjan: why
19:54:09 <oerjan> because there have been no changes in about 2 days
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19:55:26 <nortti> you're righ. Interesting
19:55:33 <nortti> +t
19:56:01 <elliott> i locked the wiki and deleted all pages and disabled oerjan's account and then graffitied a church
19:56:08 <elliott> then blew up the government
19:56:09 * oerjan considers taking that as a hint to change the topic, but reconsiders.
19:56:18 <oerjan> elliott: all in a good day's work?
19:56:37 <elliott> yes tomorrow i'm going to free all prisoners and destroy moon
19:56:41 <elliott> *the moon
19:56:47 <elliott> can't destroy moon of course, that's impossible
19:57:05 <elliott> ion: Weren't you playing Crawl?
19:57:13 <oerjan> alexander abian will finally be vindicated!
19:57:30 <elliott> oerjan: anyway, the real reason there have been no edits is because there is no quality any more
19:57:31 <elliott> just ask NSQX
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19:57:38 <ion> elliott: In a moment.
19:58:55 <ion> Namely, now.
19:59:18 <oerjan> "Refutations were given toward that idea by NASA saying that part of the exploded Moon would come back as a meteorite impacting the Earth and causing sufficient damage to extinguish all life, while restoring the seasons in the process."
20:00:10 <elliott> ion: your terminal is still the wrong size tho
20:00:17 <ion> no u
20:00:47 <oerjan> exploding the moon: not as good as you'd think?
20:00:47 <elliott> "Abian gained a degree of international notoriety for his claim that blowing up the Moon would solve virtually every problem of human existence." good
20:01:04 <ion> I don’t want a smaller field of vision just because Crawl’s software architecture sucks.
20:01:34 <oerjan> or just NASA propaganda to protect their secret moon base?
20:01:46 <elliott> monqy: please edcuate ion on not being a terrible person :(
20:02:04 <monqy> ion: "hugeterm is sinful" - everyone
20:02:11 <monqy> ion: do you want to be sinre
20:02:23 <ion> monqy: Mr. everyone’s free to contribute a patch to fix Crawl.
20:02:24 <elliott> ion: nobody will ever play your replays on tv!!
20:02:32 <ion> Good, they suck anyway.
20:02:41 <elliott> yeah because you suck (because you use a big terminal)
20:02:47 * oerjan notes that abian has been dead since 1999, and feels old for remembering him.
20:03:13 <elliott> i dont actually care about
20:03:15 <elliott> the replay thing btw
20:03:19 <elliott> i just think its wronge
20:04:15 <monqy> do you use underlines for unaware or something?
20:04:18 <monqy> that's weird man
20:05:13 <elliott> oh i thought it was just a stack of hounds
20:07:48 <elliott> monqy: oh yeah felids are fast right
20:07:53 <monqy> yeah
20:07:56 <elliott> good
20:08:01 <monqy> are you felde
20:08:06 <elliott> winning feck of chei continues to be my ultimate goal
20:08:12 <monqy> chei will slow you
20:08:13 <monqy> down
20:08:17 <elliott> exactly
20:08:22 <elliott> that's why it's terrible
20:10:54 <elliott> "left tentacle"
20:11:20 <ais523> haha, the aptitude sudoku solver actually lead to improvements to aptitude
20:16:26 <nortti> elliott: how was your cp++ different from standard cp
20:16:41 <elliott> it had a ++ after it
20:17:44 <nortti> elliott: so it just copied files from place a to place b
20:18:06 <elliott> with a ++
20:18:24 <elliott> ion: phantoms are fun, aren't they?
20:18:41 <nortti> what the ++ did
20:19:54 <elliott> ++
20:20:08 <ion> Almost as fun as imps.
20:20:48 <elliott> monqy: who are we and why are we stalking him
20:20:57 <monqy> how should I know
20:20:58 <monqy> that's like
20:20:59 <monqy> deep
20:21:05 <elliott> oh i guess i should ask squarelos instead
20:21:15 <elliott> btw i originally thought "squarelos" was derived form "squirrel" somehow
20:21:16 <elliott> squirrelos
20:21:19 <ion> hah
20:21:21 <elliott> before i learned what it
20:21:22 <elliott> actually meant
20:21:40 <monqy> squirrelos is good
20:21:58 <elliott> it's where the los is in the shame of a squirrel's silhouette
20:22:06 <elliott> *shape
20:22:10 <elliott> also in the shame
20:26:02 <elliott> ion: What does that macro do?
20:26:13 <ion> Searches for corpses i can eat/offer to Trog.
20:26:18 <ion> In case i missed one
20:26:37 <ion> Ooh, this is an awesome entrance with the c.
20:26:58 <elliott> What c?
20:27:03 <ion> A centaur
20:27:08 <elliott> Oh, right.
20:27:17 <elliott> Distortion, eh?
20:27:23 <elliott> monqy must be proud of you.
20:27:42 <ion> I wonder whether to go through an escape hatch
20:28:04 <monqy> im not proud of disto unless you're wielding it
20:28:20 <elliott> Oh, he just has it quivered.
20:28:22 <elliott> That's weird.
20:28:24 <elliott> ion: Wield that bugger.
20:29:01 <elliott> ion: You'll die soon, might as well enjoy the remaining time!
20:29:05 <ion> heh
20:29:31 <elliott> Wait, can octopodes wield?
20:29:34 <ion> yeah
20:30:00 <elliott> Wait, what's the difference between an octopode and an octopus?
20:30:31 <ion>
20:30:41 <elliott> Well, okay.
20:30:44 <elliott> So you're a set of creatures?
20:33:09 <ion> If i say you’re a humanoid, are you a set of creatures?
20:34:18 <elliott> Yes.
20:34:31 <elliott> I just don't think "humanoid" is a very descriptive species name, that's all. :p
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20:39:51 <ais523> OK, so here's a puzzle for people: what is nocookie.net?
20:39:53 <wyldstallyns> a statue is a humanoid non-creature
20:40:10 <ais523> visiting it directly just gives a fake error message, and a bunch of analytics scripts that noscript blocks
20:40:41 <ais523> and it seems to be linked to wikia in some bizarre way, according to search results on the name
20:40:47 <elliott> doesn't necessarily look fake to me
20:40:52 <wyldstallyns> it's on the rbl blacklist
20:40:55 <elliott> i can imagine a webserver serving that page for a Host header line it isn't configured to serve
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20:43:59 <elliott> "You tentacle-slap it."
20:44:19 <monqy> yes
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20:57:27 <nortti> "Have you heard of the Internet , you colossal dinks? Little demons packing up electric O's and I's, and giving them to tiny robots to carry long tubes? (I think that's how it goes; I refused to buy the TCP/IP text during my undergrad.)"
20:58:22 <ais523> nortti: actually it's a big truck
20:58:34 <Phantom_Hoover> hello
20:58:34 <lambdabot> Phantom_Hoover: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it.
20:58:36 <Phantom_Hoover> helliott
20:58:45 <nortti> That speech was hilarious
20:59:07 <Phantom_Hoover> I see that elliott has sent me a message regarding that lesser-known proto-esolang, FALSE.
20:59:20 <elliott> FSVO proto.
21:00:33 <Phantom_Hoover> It's proto like INTERCAL is, in that it was an esolang before anyone cared to classify esolangs as a thing
21:01:33 <Phantom_Hoover> Oh wait, it came out in the same year as the BFs?
21:01:51 <nortti> is P" also a proto-esolang
21:01:57 <Phantom_Hoover> I guess it's just one of the 3 founding esolangs, then.
21:02:01 <Phantom_Hoover> nortti, yes.
21:07:12 <TeruFSX> what's the third founder?
21:07:18 <elliott> nsqx
21:07:39 <Phantom_Hoover> TeruFSX, FALSE, Brainfuck and Befunge,.
21:07:58 <elliott> More like BObjective FLOLCODE.
21:08:10 <TeruFSX> yeah, befunge
21:08:27 <TeruFSX> befunge always felt suprisingly sane to me
21:08:30 <ion> elliott: They are. :-P
21:08:37 <elliott> DON'T DROP THE HAT
21:08:42 <elliott> WEAR TEH HATE
21:08:56 <Phantom_Hoover> TeruFSX, yeah, but that's just because at the time 2D and stack-based were esoteric :P
21:09:20 <elliott> FALSE and Befunge are surprisingly usable, really.
21:09:28 <elliott> brainfuck was the first tarpit.
21:09:36 <elliott> *tarpit esolang, that is.
21:10:01 <elliott> Hmm.
21:10:02 <elliott> I guess maybe not.
21:10:07 <elliott> I wonder what Perlis was referring to by Turing tar-pit?
21:10:15 <elliott> i.e. what examples he had in mind. It was the 80s, after all.
21:10:25 <elliott> Maybe I'll ask— oh, he's dead.
21:12:02 <TeruFSX> assembler would be one
21:12:30 <TeruFSX> a language so universal and powerful it can't really be used?
21:12:33 <elliott> Assembly language is... not a Turing tarpit.
21:12:39 <TeruFSX> it's not a turing tarpit
21:12:43 <elliott> For a start, most architectures aren't Turing complete.
21:12:48 <TeruFSX> but maybe that's what Perlis was getting at
21:12:59 <elliott> Hmm.
21:13:09 <elliott> I suppose so, but if so it's a rather different meaning than is now generally used.
21:13:14 <elliott> I guess it's unlikely he knew about P''.
21:13:23 <elliott> But Turing machines were certainly around in the 80s. :p
21:13:33 <TeruFSX> is there any references to a Turing tar-pit before then?
21:13:41 <TeruFSX> the word was coined from that quote, I though
21:13:44 <TeruFSX> *term
21:14:01 <elliott> Yeah, it did.
21:14:04 <elliott> *was.
21:15:22 <Phantom_Hoover> <elliott> I wonder what Perlis was referring to by Turing tar-pit?
21:15:22 <Phantom_Hoover> <elliott> i.e. what examples he had in mind. It was the 80s, after all.
21:15:22 <Phantom_Hoover> <elliott> Maybe I'll ask oh, he's dead.
21:15:36 <elliott> You mangled my em dash.
21:15:38 <Phantom_Hoover> ISTR that it was in reference to some trends in computer science in the 60s.
21:16:10 <Phantom_Hoover> Where everyone thought that the key to understanding computation was getting the simplest systems of a given computational class.
21:16:17 <kmc> the early days of theoretical CS were a golden age for esolang design
21:16:27 <kmc> design an esolang, prove it's Turing complete, collect PhD
21:16:28 <Phantom_Hoover> Thus resulting in extremely compact but obtuse systems, i.e. Turing tarpits.
21:16:54 <Phantom_Hoover> Their esolangs are all boring though.
21:16:58 <elliott> Phantom_Hoover: Then Wolfram revived that school of thought!
21:17:07 <kmc> :3
21:17:15 <pikhq> And declared himself a New Kind of Scientist.
21:17:18 <Phantom_Hoover> Well, put it into a medically-induced coma, perhaps.
21:17:22 <elliott> Aided by one Alex Smith.
21:17:33 <elliott> The 523rd Alex Smith to ever exist, and the most: EVIL.
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21:22:06 <ion> Re: Crawl, https://github.com/ion1/crawl-config/compare/master-base...master
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21:52:22 <elliott> ais523: can you dig esolangs.org?
21:53:47 <ais523> esolangs.org.86400INA178.79.159.81
21:54:19 <elliott> ion: You died?
21:54:25 <elliott> ais523: What nameserver does it use?
21:54:26 <monqy> looks like it
21:54:35 <elliott> Someone TV ion's death.
21:54:55 <ais523> elliott:, I think
21:55:03 <elliott> ais523: not what i meant :)
21:55:07 <ais523> oh, esolangs.org? there isn't an authority section
21:55:18 <ion> elliott: YASD.
21:55:33 <kmc> can you dig it man
21:55:37 <elliott> ais523: I suspect you're just not giving dig the right options to see it
21:55:39 <elliott> ion: What was it to?
21:55:47 <ais523> elliott: it normally shows it by default
21:55:53 <ais523> in fact, there's a specific "authority: 0"
21:55:58 <elliott> Odd.
21:56:00 <ais523> so I guess it's a cached value from nowhere in paritcular
21:56:11 <ion> elliott: cccc and not reading a scroll of teleportation quickly enough.
21:56:45 <ion> elliott: Where was the TV again? I thought termcast.org, but i don’t see anything that looks like a Crawl session.
21:57:07 <elliott> termcast.develz.org.
21:57:31 <elliott> Actually, if it's on TV then everyone will see all my stupid banter.
21:57:36 <elliott> I guess we'll just never know.
22:02:12 <elliott> ion: Hey, I want to play Crawl.
22:02:22 <ion> Don’t do iiitt!
22:02:26 <elliott> Should I go for DsAK, GhMo, or SpAs?
22:02:42 <ion> DSAK
22:02:43 <monqy> "whatever you feel like"
22:03:09 <elliott> monqy: I asked ion, not you. :(
22:03:12 <elliott> ion: Aww, really?
22:03:20 <ion> I’ll donate some urine, get some snacks and then watch.
22:03:38 <elliott> Okay, what if not DsAK?
22:03:46 <ion> elliott: Do whatever you want. I’ve been meaning to try DS at some point, too. :-P
22:03:49 <elliott> (I got annoyed with DsAK because I hate Crawl's hunger mechanism.)
22:04:01 <ion> Hmm. Is Ds ≠ DS?
22:04:07 <elliott> Ds = DS, I think.
22:04:09 <monqy> Ds is DS after the change
22:04:11 <elliott> I'm not sure which abbreviation is canonical.
22:04:19 <ion> monqy: Oh.
22:04:20 <monqy> it used to be DS then it got changed to Ds
22:04:21 <elliott> But it's "Demonspawn".
22:04:22 <ion> ok
22:04:28 <monqy> elliott: that's why it was changed
22:04:50 <elliott> I'll play a few games of SpAs first, since I die quickly that way.
22:05:03 <ion> SpEn is nice.
22:05:36 <elliott> Okay, here goes.
22:06:01 <monqy> is spen any good for diving?
22:07:17 <elliott> I have my own monster fan club already.
22:08:27 <elliott> That was lucky.
22:10:20 <ion> monqy: Almost certainly not. OTOH, i’d suck at diving with any character.
22:10:32 <elliott> Yay. :(
22:11:01 <elliott> Nice, manage to escape Grinder then die to a scorpion.
22:11:10 <monqy> you shouldn't have meleed it
22:11:15 <elliott> Yeah.
22:11:23 <elliott> If I ran away I'd probably have run into ol' Grinder again, though.
22:11:26 <elliott> Well, let's try that again.
22:11:30 <monqy> you could have blowguned it
22:11:35 <monqy> scorps are weak to poison
22:11:43 <elliott> How ironic.
22:12:24 <elliott> Aww.
22:12:30 <elliott> Once more and then I'll play something less silly.
22:12:43 <ion> Good idea: fight Sigmund at XL 1.
22:12:49 <elliott> He was sleeping!
22:13:18 <ion> And you still had stabbing at whatever it starts at. :-P
22:14:27 <elliott> Where is that bloody downstairs...
22:15:19 <elliott> FINALLY
22:17:02 <elliott> welp
22:17:16 <elliott> lol
22:17:23 <ion> nice
22:17:35 <Phantom_Hoover> So yesterday Bethesda posted on their Twitter that they'd release information about the upcoming DLC today.
22:18:12 <Phantom_Hoover> Today they posted on their blog the title of the DLC, a generic poster and that they'd give more details at E3.
22:19:37 <elliott> Isn't Xom great?
22:20:25 <elliott> lol
22:20:50 <ion> heh
22:21:32 <elliott> xom...
22:22:06 <elliott> Well, that was fun.
22:22:52 <ion> You stopped already? :-(
22:23:35 <elliott> Only SpAs.
22:23:45 <elliott> I'm deciding DsAK vs. GhMo for my non-silly game.
22:24:16 <elliott> Oops.
22:24:30 <elliott> monqy: Is Spriggan Preist terrible? I just accidentally selected it :D
22:24:46 <ion> probably
22:25:07 <elliott> Okay, let's try this.
22:27:04 <elliott> Well, that's unhelpful.
22:28:40 <elliott> *Five* altars of Xom?
22:29:08 <ion> To be able to handle a flood of new followers.
22:31:29 <elliott> Is Terence scary? I forget.
22:31:41 <ion> Not too scary IIRC
22:32:12 <elliott> Indeed.
22:34:01 <elliott> monqy: Does sustenance do anything to ghouls?
22:34:12 <ion> See if d, drops it.
22:34:55 <elliott> Hmm, what does d, do?
22:34:57 <elliott> Drop useless stuff?
22:35:03 <ion> yeah
22:35:05 <elliott> Unfortunately I like my scrolls of random uselessness.
22:36:03 <elliott> How fast are giant newts?
22:36:36 <ion> Normal IIRC
22:37:06 <monqy> yeah normal
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22:38:31 <elliott> Oh joy.
22:38:56 <elliott> Eeeeh.
22:38:56 <ion> Hmm. Can you find the temple with ^Fecumenical? In any case, ^G will show if you’ve seen the entrance.
22:39:17 <elliott> ion: Yes, ^Fecumenical works, because it's the "entrance to the Ecumenical Temple".
22:39:35 <ion> Yeah, i was wondering whether ^F sees such things or now.
22:39:37 <ion> t
22:41:33 <ion> Este amuleto protege a su portador de algunas formas de confusión mental, incluyendo la furia involuntaria.
22:41:43 <ion> You should play crawl in some language you don’t know.
22:42:21 <ion> book of beasts
22:42:23 <ion> Un libro con hechizos mágicos. ¡Ten cuidado, no vaya a ser que te muerda!
22:42:38 <ion> La peau d'un animal.
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22:58:28 <ion> elliott: Y U NO PLAY?
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23:01:02 <elliott> Oh you're kidding me.
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23:01:37 <elliott> Hi, Guest90172.
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23:01:59 <TeruFSX> jeez, split hit a lot of people here too
23:02:22 <elliott> monqy: What's warding? Henzell isn't working for me.
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23:02:46 * elliott wonders how you're meant to reach that pet rock store.
23:02:47 <monqy> warding makes melee attacks from summoned stuff fail sometimes, and also gives you rN+ unless that changed
23:02:59 <elliott> Well that sounds useless.
23:03:04 <elliott> Oh, wait.
23:03:07 <elliott> From other people's summoned stuff.
23:03:11 <elliott> Okay, that sounds less useless.
23:03:19 <monqy> pet rocks?
23:03:24 <elliott> Yes.
23:03:27 <elliott> Pet rocks.
23:03:28 <monqy> oh
23:03:34 <monqy> I think you were supposed to use the boring beetle
23:03:41 <monqy> to get through the walls
23:03:44 <monqy> or you could dig
23:03:46 <monqy> or something
23:04:07 <elliott> They give you a dangerous monster just to let you get into their pet rock store?
23:04:27 <ion> You could hit the wall really hard.
23:09:21 <elliott> Back.
23:09:52 <elliott> Nice.
23:10:02 <elliott> Nicer.
23:10:09 <elliott> :(
23:11:03 <elliott> ion: You should, like, fish me out of this mess.
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23:13:13 <elliott> OH THANKS ION & MONQY
23:15:08 <elliott> monqy: :'(
23:15:12 * ion watches
23:15:32 <ion> Convince the jelly, the frog and the orc to join your side.
23:15:44 <monqy> oh,
23:15:45 <monqy> a mess
23:15:50 <monqy> what do you have
23:15:59 <elliott> Not much.
23:16:03 <monqy> mmmmmmmm-hm
23:16:08 <elliott> I wanted to id those potions but: no scrolls.
23:16:08 <monqy> lots of unidentified stuff I see
23:16:22 <elliott> And that's kind of useless with the failure rate.
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23:16:44 <monqy> quaffid is less dangerous on ghouls than most races since potions of mutation don't really hurt you
23:16:55 <monqy> nor do potions of decay
23:16:56 <monqy> ,etc
23:17:06 <monqy> and wasting cure mut is a non concern
23:17:26 <monqy> (since you don;'t get muts)
23:17:40 <elliott> Yes, but.
23:17:58 <ion> What potions have you not identified yet?
23:18:01 <elliott> There's four potions with 2; at most two are going to be what I want.
23:18:10 <elliott> ion: I forget how to tell.
23:18:13 <ion> \
23:18:27 <elliott> All of them. :p
23:18:33 <ion> Toggle with -
23:18:42 <elliott> Why?
23:18:45 <elliott> I don't recognise any potions.
23:18:47 <elliott> So that would just list every potion.
23:18:55 <ion> ah, ok
23:20:03 <elliott> Hey, what luck.
23:20:08 <elliott> monqy: Oh, and I'm on a downstairs.
23:20:14 <elliott> I lured these guys upstairs. It wasn't my proudest moment.
23:20:19 <monqy> oh
23:20:25 <monqy> yyeah
23:20:31 <elliott> What's downstairs is more orcs, mostly.
23:20:46 <monqy> kill the jelly
23:20:54 <elliott> What, with 28 HP?
23:21:03 <monqy> what else can you do
23:21:04 <elliott> I went down from 50-something HP to like 10 in one turn.
23:21:06 <monqy> the jelly is almost dead
23:21:08 <elliott> I have another potion of curing.
23:21:12 <monqy> was that from ascending the stairs
23:21:16 <elliott> Yes.
23:21:17 <monqy> (stair ascent takes a long time)
23:21:19 <elliott> Oh.
23:21:22 <monqy> and you can't dodge
23:21:27 <monqy> ok
23:21:31 <monqy> are you weak
23:21:45 <elliott> Depends what you mean by weak
23:21:45 <monqy> i dont know this character
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23:22:31 <elliott> That was a sincere question.
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23:24:17 <elliott> monqy: :(
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23:25:51 <monqy> ooops
23:25:52 <monqy> uh
23:25:53 <monqy> uh
23:26:04 <elliott> Nothing happened since last time, dude.
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23:26:11 <monqy> squishy and low damage output
23:26:15 <monqy> you seem both
23:26:24 <monqy> if you took all that damamge and couldn't kill the jello
23:26:45 <monqy> but maybe you just got unlucky or i underestimated the orc or something
23:26:46 <elliott> "im not too bad at unarmed combat i guess"
23:26:52 <elliott> im ok on the armour front
23:27:36 <monqy> you don';t look okay
23:27:43 <monqy> 8 ac or what-have-you isn't very much
23:27:54 <elliott> welp
23:28:18 <elliott> time to die again
23:32:13 <elliott> awesome
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23:33:05 <elliott> hey, fire resistance
23:33:19 <elliott> i'm inevitably going to die quickly so i don't get the chance to benefit from all this loot
23:33:25 <elliott> case in point
23:33:49 <elliott> heh
23:33:56 <elliott> I didn't expect it to follow me to the stairs. :(
23:36:41 <elliott> Time for another depressing march into inevitable doom.
23:36:42 <elliott> *to
23:36:45 <elliott> *towards
23:36:51 <ion> Elliott's ghost (average Spriggan Assassin) comes into view.
23:37:17 <elliott> Nice.
23:37:22 <elliott> Why are you Trog?
23:37:40 <ion> For bersercques and the starting stats.
23:38:10 <elliott> Guess who just died!
23:39:16 <kmc> doooooooooooom
23:39:37 <elliott> kmc: You should watch me play Crawl. It's a balst.
23:39:48 <elliott> Also a blast. But mostly a balst.
23:40:00 <ion> A balst indeed.
23:40:07 <kmc> a ballast
23:40:19 <elliott> An active ballistomycete.
23:40:33 <elliott> Yes, I admit, I googled the full name.
23:41:02 <elliott> I forget if rCorr is worthwhile.
23:43:15 <ion> G - a ring of the Octopus King (left hand) {tried, AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Dex+1 Int+1}
23:43:28 <ion> elliott: It is if you ever melée jellies. :-)
23:43:37 <elliott> All the time.
23:44:00 <elliott> Guess who has teleportitis!
23:44:06 <ion> yay
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23:44:46 <shachaf> elliott: Did you eat a leprechaun/nymph/tengu corpse?!
23:44:50 <elliott> No.
23:47:24 <elliott> Not a scroll of teleportation!!!! NOOOO
23:47:28 <elliott> I might... TELEPORT
23:47:44 <ion> Has the potion of heal wounds been nerfed in the last six months?
23:48:10 <elliott> Ask monqy; I only started playing 10 days ago.
23:49:48 <kmc> is that like summoning sickness
23:50:04 <elliott> kmc: What, teleportitis?
23:50:13 <elliott> Teleportitis is where you teleport randomly every now and then.
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23:51:05 <shachaf> kmc: You should play NetHack! (You shouldn't play NetHack.)
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23:56:08 <elliott> ion: Help, I've had teleportitis for like a billion turns now. :(
23:56:33 <shachaf> > how many turns is a billion
23:56:42 <shachaf> "rip lambdabot"
23:56:55 <ion> elliott: Get a potion of cure mutation!
23:57:08 <shachaf> cutation
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23:57:13 <ion> that.
23:57:16 <elliott> ion: Not mutation.
23:57:17 <elliott> Cursed ring.
23:57:25 <shachaf> Get a potion of cure cursed ring!
23:57:25 <ion> Get a scroll of remove curse.
23:57:31 <elliott> ion: I've tried.
23:57:32 <shachaf> cursed ring
23:57:34 <elliott> I've id'd about 5 scrolls.
23:57:36 <elliott> None of them are remove curse. :(
23:58:18 <ion> An iguana, a hippogriff, a giant frog, a jelly, an orc warrior and 2 small zombies come into view.
23:58:39 <ion> k A manticore and a hill giant come into view.
23:59:41 <elliott> ion: Nice.
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